Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1744: Exalted Charms Aren't Magic

Your waifus a shit

>>55405304
What is your opinions on husbandos?

>>55405293
How about they're whatever people think they are and we don't get into stupid arguments because this is a Single Player Game.

>>55405327
Sometimes the shitposter makes the thread, ironically, and he always puts in a subject meant to start fights.

Is anyone else's drive missing folders?

>>55405327
>>55405293
Also if they're ki, that's stupid because implies the entire world is made of ki and ki is something that comes from the soul.

>>55405293
>Exalted Charms Aren't Magic Though
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
But they totally are tho'!!!!

>>55405349
Creation is made from the souls of some of the Primordials. Specifically, Cytherea and Gaia. It's not connected to them like their own personal world-bodies are, but they used themselves as the raw material.

That said, Exalted doesn't actually have any ki/magic distinction. It's all just Essence, no matter how you use it. Charms are explicitly referred to as magic, even the Martial Arts charms that are more like ki techniques. Not everything has to fit into your categories, man, Exalted can do its own thing with its own mystical energies.

So minor spoiler for Death of the Outsider: The Outsider's Mark is actually his name, spelled out in the symbol-language of the civilization that created him.

Makes me wonder how that would interact with the Jumper's Mark that you can get for not spending any runes in the Dishonored 1 jump. I guess it would say your name, then?

Jumpers! If you were a video game boss, what would your boss theme be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht1VAtHse6s

>>55405293
They are magic. That's not at all debatable. What they're not necessarily is spells, depending on your interpretation.

>>55405349
>Also if they're ki, that's stupid because implies the entire world is made of ki and ki is something that comes from the soul.
No it doesn't. Ki is everywhere, and in all things. It's the life-breath of reality, flowing throughout the cosmos. It's not something distinct from magic, either, that's only in modern stories to distinguish Asian mysticism from Western magic, the classic stories have people doing magic fueled by ki all the time.

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Reposting the question I messed up on posting at the end of thread.

Wasnt there a perk that gave you perfect fluency in any language you know?

I offer riskey notporn as payment.

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Tell me of your waifus.

>>55405349
What "ki" is and where it comes from is extremely variable depending on the setting.

>implies the entire world is made of ki
So? Seems pretty silly to say metaphysics don't work the way they do just because you think it's "stupid". Especially when discussing a setting where everything is made up of tiny spirits and the laws of nature only exist because some junkies wanted a place to hide from some chaos rain.

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>>55405512
I dont have any, I have a daughteru who is probably stronger than me in a straight fight,

A meido who is better with a spear than most heros in fate,

And a wand.

I dont need waifus. Waifus only make things difficult.

>>55405512
Definitely not the used goods in your pic.

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>>55405498

It was in the Heros Jump by Baramasta

>>55405512

Anna

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>>55405304
Listen here nigger

>>55404081
Actual things:
It says by purchasing a digivice you get a Partner Digimon under both digivices. Should I be assuming that's one digimon per any amount of digivice unless you take the Twin Digimon perk or did I fuck up?

Since we get custom crests, and the crests and digimentals sync up for the most part, why not a matching digimental option?

If we buy both digivices can we have one transform into the other like what happened with TK's, Kari's, and Ken's?

>>55405652
For the last one I mean, can it happen around the same time and not at the start of the jump?

>>55405327
>>55405349
>>55405381
Charms differ from the spells invoked through various practices of magic (sorcery, necromancy, or mortal thaumaturgy) in that spells are more exacting and are focused through sheer will alone, whereas Charms are an extension of the character's own inherent traits. Additionally, each type of Exalt or spirit can only learn Charms from the pool of Charms available to their own type (Solars, Lunars, etc), whereas access to sorcery or necromancy spells is only limited by the individual character's access to that circle of spells. Thus, a Solar cannot normally learn Lunar Charms (or vice versa), but all characters who have access to First Circle Sorcery can theoretically learn from the same pool of sorcery spells.

So there is a distinct difference in the two sets of abilities.

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So do we have any items/perks that merge items and/or weapons perfectly? By that I mean something that gives all the powers and does not merge the forms together, for example say if you have a sword and a staff it wouldn't merge them into a halberd or spear.

Does anyone know if Gratuitous Cartoon Physics from the Smash Bros jump is toggleable?

On the same note does anyone know what the drop in option for that jump is

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>>55405512
Mine likes gardening, reading in the shade, fighting, baking, and playing fun games like genocide.

Though the last one isn't something she gets to indulge in... much.

>>55405680
In setting there are three types of what we could call 'magic' : Sorcery, charms and thaumaturgy. Each are different, but we can readily classify them all as 'magic'.
As such any perks which effect 'magic' should potentially affect all three.

>>55405705
There's an import for that in Bayonetta.

>inb4 someone says "invalid jump" or similar

>>55405444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tQyP3BVcL4
>>55405498
>riskey
I believe you meant 'risque'.
Anyway, Tamaraneans can instantly learn the languages of people they kiss, and I'm pretty sure Heroes has some sort of Omnilingual perk, which sort of bypasses the need to learn languages in the first place.
I've never heard of a perk that let's you jump from intermediate, passable knowledge of a language to full-blown native speaker language professor.
There's plenty of intelligence and language learning perks in a bunch of jumps, so you could probably learn languages pretty fast without that perk.
>>55405512
Don't have any. What I do have is brief dalliances throughout my travels, perfect memory, and technopathy perks to offload my experiences into an easily transferable digital format.
>>55405705
I think there's a weapon enchantment in the King Arthur jump that let's your weapon absorb other weapons. It's pretty ambivalent on how exactly it works, IIRC.

>>55405744
INVALID JUMP
>Not really though, just proving you right, and this comment does not actually represent my opinion

>>55405705
Maybe the option for Sacred Treasure from Seven Deadily Sins that gives mutliple forms and imports?

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>>55405512
About the closest thing my current Jumper has to a waifu at the moment is pic related, but that's still a work in progress. Mikotsu has made a lot of progress, dealing with many of the problems that weighed her down and hurt her. She even made peace with her sister. But even now, she's still dealing with a lifetime of neglect plus being imprisoned for so long as an undead in a hellish prison. Hell, she only recently regained her original, pure form while saving Jumper from the Light of Destruction! It will happen eventually, but not until she's ready. Besides, Jumper's own mind got fucked with by the Light of Destruction before she saved him, so he's not exactly in a good spot either.

>>55405742
Actually all three of those things are various levels of Reality Warping friendo, everything in Creation is just experssing itself through Reality Warping within 'Rules' set by the Shinma. Just because White Wolf is full of hacks doesn't mean we have to be hacks too.

>>55405512
Does Homura Akemi count as underaged?

>>55405742
Doesn't matter what you classify it as. What a setting classifies something as counts, otherwise you could go "magic is a systematized tool people use to affect the world around them, therefore it's technology and technology-enhancing perks should apply". However, you are right, though for the wrong reason. Charms are referred to as magic by Exalted. Magic-boosting perks should apply to them. Spell-boosting perks shouldn't, but those are rarer than general all-magic perks, so it's not much of an issue. The only one I can think of off the top of my head that's specifically spells is Infinity from Seven Deadly Sins, and Val herself has said that she's fine with people applying that to charms.

>>55405811
Yes. She's clearly not emotionally matured at all no matter how much subjective time she's spent looping, and is therefore a child both in body and in mind.

>>55405812
All the better. Now we can stop talking about this obvious bait and move on to something actually interesting.

Anyone got a build for Coiling Dragon Part 1 yet?

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>>55405512
Medea is best girl.
Every genuine smile makes me nearly have a heart attack

>>55405827
Wait what counts as emotionally mature?

>>55405812
>White Wolf is a bunch of Westerners who used the word magic a few times where they should have beeen using eastern terms like Breath/Essence/Life-Force/etc.
>White Wolf a Hacks!

>>55405827
She's kind of like an inverse Superboy in that sense. Isn't she?

>>55405862
The reason I ask is because Homura is best classified as Traumatized and shell shocked but the same can happen to adults as well

>>55405862
Anon probably considers most twenty-sometimes and many people older to be children by his definition.

>>55405812
>Valeria
Who has not written a single White Wolf (In General)/Exalted (In particular) Jump and shouldn't have a horse in this conversation. That's kind of a presumtion when all the people who HAVE written them have fairly agreed that it's Life-Force/Ki/Reality Warping outright in some cases.

>>55405897
Things get real confusing morally when immortality and time travel is involved

>>55405891
>Traumatized and shell shocked
Regardless of age, you really shouldn't try to romance people when what they really need is psychological suport/therapy/a shoulder to cry on (without an ulterior motive)

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>>55405512
Despite having all female Companions, none of them really fall into that category. Katia and I are really more of old adventuring buddies at this point. Poppy is really a rival in the heroism, except we get along really well so I'm not quite sure what to call that. And Tristiana is more of a tag along. She's always hunting for the next big battle or grand adventure. I'm mainly a means to that end.

>>55405929
>pic
I hope that's not shark fin soup...

>>55405928
Never said I would romance her out of the gate. Geez, therapy first then friendship than romance

>>55405910
>implying

Val's the thread authority. Those shittier jumpmakers don't have half the authority they think they do to rule otherwise. if Infinity works on Charms, then Charms are magic and are affected by magic-boosters and similar perks.

End of discussion.

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Besides Pokémon Trainer, BTAS, & Fable which jump offers Eidetic Memory?

>>55405925
Easy solution. Get telepathy and retrain yourself to judge a person's maturity based not on arbitrary assumptions about age and supposed life experience, but instead through seeing how developed their minds are, effectively seeing how mature they are but /seeing/ how mature they are rather than using the intermediatries we have to in RL due to a lack of alternative!

>>55405945
Better, just remember though that using therapy sessions to lay the groundwork for future waifu'ing is a bad thing to do and you'll be fine.
You may want to dye your hair pink.

>>55405963
SCP has one, as I recall. Not sure it's a place I'd go just for that, though.

>>55405944
Considering it's a noodle shop...

>>55405986
>Better, just remember though that using therapy sessions to lay the groundwork for future waifu'ing is a bad thing to do and you'll be fine.

Possible future waifuing. I am fine with her having a emotionally stable relationship with Madoka.

>>55405962
>Val's the thread authority on her own jumps
FTFY
And yes she is. If she says a feature of her jump works a certain way or combos a certain way, then it does. Anyone who doesn't like it is free to houserule differently just keep it to yourself if you do, plz.
The only time Val overstepped the mark is when she declared after making the Street Fighter jump that a part of the Asura's Wrath jump which she didn't make was no longer valid (the whole staying in the setting between the end of Asura's Wrath and the start of Street Fighter where you'd jump it as normal). Considering how much she does for this thread, I think we can forgive one tiny misstep, can't we?

>>55405812
Jesus, you people are fucking pathetic.

>>55406046
And I'm sure you aren't, after all no pathetic person would make such a pointless derogatory post, right? /s

>>55406046
>pathetic.
~triggered!!!~
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Seriously, do better than this. I need something substantial to make fun of.

>>55406061
You faggots are literally just playing semantics games. You have no real argument.

>>55406043
And you're implying Muyo had the right to infringe on another jump he had no plans to make. Val was more than in her right to tell that non-canon jump to go fuck itself.

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>>55405963
Fate/kaleid have perk like that in drop it perk tree.

Or we could just ask Wukong if charms are magic and if magic boosting charms work with them.

Relavent Jumpmaker>other Jumpmaker

Should be how it works. Vals opinion is valid until proven false by the original creator

>>55405962
Ah I see you're a shitposter and hiding behind Valeria's 'authority', which only extends to her own Jumps as she is not the maker of the other Jumps in question, nah that's not legit at all. 'Thread authority' dude the shitposter(s), have been badgering Valeria so implying a Thread Consensus when most of us can't agree on the color of blue without a four page debate, as >>55406043 said she's the authority on her own jumps.
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She's overstepped with Asura's Wrath and then she overstepped with Exalted, this time by making a setting wide decision on a setting she only knew in passing and got descriptions from anons who wanted to push for a particular end goal.
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>>55406091
Muyo planned to make the Street Fighter Jump before they got ran off anon.

>>55406122
>Should be how it works.

Opinions are worth only two pennies, anon.

>>55406091
>implying
>infringe
>non-canon jump
You must be shitposting. You cannot be this dumb without trying to get a raise out of someone. I refuse to belive that you are legit this retarded.

>>55406083
Didn't say I disagree, but that comment says more about you than that 'semantics game' says about them.

>>55406122
That's fair. Has Wukong been around recently?

>>55406142
Are you implying a jumpmaker can't make statemtns of their own jumps with authority? That their opinion over their own jumps has less weight that a faggot anon like you?

>>55405963
Fairy's Mind from Hyperdimension Neptunia

>>55406160
Death of the Author is a thing, Timmy.

>>55406143
>You must be shitposting.
Yes. Yes he is.
Finally one of your retards have realised the truth.
Now that you have, kindly stop feeding the shitposter.

>>55406122
>original creator
Wukong wasn't involved in the creation of Exalted as far as I know.

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>>55406172
Wukong isnt dead though. Cross bridges when they are made

>>55406122
Wukong has no right to make sweeping rulings regarding a setting that he did not write. His opinion on whether or not Charms or magic does not supersede Word of God on the matter. Meanwhile, Val just ruled that Charms and things like them qualify for Infinity.

>>55406172
That's not how we do things here, newbie.
SB does that though, perhaps you should go there and choke on a bag of dicks along with the rest of them.

>>55406135
>>55406091
What's the option you guys are talking about? I only see one mention of Street Fighter in the document.

>>55406182
>>55406195

I meant the original creator of the Jump itself unless you want to bother Holden and Morke with a cyoa they could care less about

The stupidest thing is that you people were TOLD he was going to use the topic to shitpost at the start but you all still fucking bit.

>>55406195
So Val can give Word of God on other people's jumps, but Wukong can't on his own jump....
You are so full of shit I'm actually a little impressed.

>>55406160
No, they should not enforce their headcanon upon settings they did not create. The only rulings they should be able to make are on perks/items/etc. that they are wholly responsible for.

>>55406219
I'm an addict! I just can't stop!
The shitposter just feels soooo good to respond to! Sweet sweet bait...

>>55406209
Exactly that small part. Val said, flat out, that you couldn't do that little fluffy tidbit.

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>>55406219
/jc/ is the easiest general to bait

>>55406195
Pretty sure Val herself would probably agree that Wukong himself would have more authority on his jump

>>55406220
Welcome to modern /jc/.

Soon jumpmakers will have to beg Valeria to make rulings for their own jumps because otherwise, the thread will tear into them.

>>55406243
Wukong can't rule shit. Mardukth made Infernals, if he has a different opinion than Wukong, then what? Val only said Infinite treats Charms as spells, no more than that.

>>55406234
>The only rulings they should be able to make are on perks/items/etc. that they are wholly responsible for.
Exactly. So Val can say what she wants about her jumps, Wukong can say what he wants about his jumps and so on. So, where's the argument?

>No, they should not enforce their headcanon upon settings they did not create.
I hope you mean 'create' as in the jump and not the property otherwise this would be incredibly stupid.

>>55406235
Go masturbate instead.

>>55406236
I don't understand, the only mention is that "Asura's Wrath is apparently the prehistory of Street Fighter", what did she say you couldn't do?

>>55406209
>You’ll live the rest of your life on Gaea, which depending on your perks can be a very long time. If you endure the following eons, you might yet witness the rise and fall of martial arts magic. If a Street Fighter Jump is created, you may spend ten years in that updated reality before jumping to another ‘verse. Changes you make in this jump apply to that one.

>>55406220
Do you really not see the difference between the rulings "no, this aspect of the setting that I had no part in producing works the way I say it does" and "yes, things A, B, and C that are related to a perk I wrote are covered under its effect"? They're not the same thing at all, anon.

This is his standard procedure to try and chase off a jumpmaker, just obsession all day in either direction. If someone dropped thirty jumps tomorrow he'd forget about her completely and target that one instead, because that person would then be one of the primary people keeping this thread alive, which he hates despite fucking making this thread.

>>55406255
>Mardukth made Infernals, if he has a different opinion than Wukong, then what?
That's why they collaborated, to head that sort of problem off before it came up.

>>55406268
Why didn't I think of that! Great idea anon! /s

>>55406270
The AW jump allows you to stay in the setting for the millions of years it take to catch up with Street Fighter. The AW jump stipulates this, Val decided to say after making SF that you couldn't, despite it being about someone else's jump.
Although I can't remember her giving any justification for it beyond her not liking it. If someone remembers a better reason given please share it with me.

>>55406280
Oh, well then that makes complete sense why Val would turn that down. Muyo doesn't really have any influence over the Street Fighter Jump since he didn't make it.

>>55406296
If the shitposter was a criminal you'd be counted as an accomplice, since he can't function without people like you responding.

>>55406143
To be fair, the way Muyo ruled Mantra as working makes no actual sense in the context of the game. It basically is non-canon.

Final Fantasy 1 jump
Wizard master race
But those Fighter perks though. . .

>>55406284
Yeah, you're just boring me now, shit-chan. Maybe I'm just overtird but you just seem so dull and uninteresting right now I can't muster up the effort to deal with you. Maybe someone else will give you some attention.

>>55406309
I broke the law and the law won.
Don't worry oversensitive anon, I'm going to bed so I can't help the big bad shitposter ruin your nice clean thread.

>>55406309
>>55406315
Bored and tired, shitties. Night night.

>>55406296
>The AW jump stipulates this, Val decided to say after making SF that you couldn't, despite it being about someone else's jump.
But that doesn't make sense, Asura's Wrath is the one with an option to affect a different Jump, not the other way around. Muyo had nothing to do with Street Fighter, why would the option in his Jump that allows you to change the setting using Asura's Wrath stuff be allowed to take president?

>>55406317
Go for Red Mage. Have the best of all three worlds! That perkline is pretty sweet too. And the free perk gives you style, panache, and posing!

>>55406355
>But that doesn't make sense,
Then maybe you are an idiot, or a shitposter, or a shit-accomplice. Either way your inability is something shameful you should be hiding away rather than broadcasting.

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>>55406362
>Go for Red Mage

>>55406362
I wonder when a Red Mage will decide that he needs all the magic, and becomes a Purple Mage by picking up some Blue.

>>55406355
>affect a different Jump
No. Read the jump not just the shitposts and you'll see it doesn't. All it influences is the time inbetween, it doesn't touch the Street Fighter jump.

>>55406265
You're a fucking idiot. Val never ruled on Exalted, she ruled on Infinity to encompass "learnable magical techniques". She's not ruling on other jumps, she's ruling on what counts for /her/ perk in a way that applies fairly to all systems without arbitrarily letting the specific mechanics of Exalted take precedence over everything else.

No, I don't. Jumpmakers can't rule how a setting that they're merely representing works. Clover should not be ruling that Aura comes from a metaphysical organ that isn't the soul, unless there is explicit evidence for it. Valeria should not be ruling that ki from Street Fighter isn't "life-force" when she had no involvement in creating the setting. They should not be forcing their headcanon onto other peoples' IPs.

>>55405550
It's literally a plot point that she's a virgin.

>>55406398
>You're a fucking idiot.
Right back att'ya, pal.
Look I'm too tied for your brand of shittery and I'm going to bed (seriously this time). I'm not going to play along and frankly I think I'm the only one who has been. Have fun arguing with yourself.

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>>55405512
she calls me oni-sama

>>55406400
I don't know why, but I'm reminded of that girl Olivia from new pokemon who is an old christmas cake virgin because everyone thinks she's either a slut or scary and aggressive, so she's going insane from loneliness and has her entire room filled with Stuffuls (so she's a crazy Stufful lady.)

>>55406374
Anon, your argument is "A Jumpmaker shouldn't be allowed to interfere with a Jump they had no involvement in without permission from the Jumpmaker who made it." Muyo has nothing to do with Street Fighter, Val is enforcing your argument by denying another Jumpmaker's interference with her Jump.

>>55406439
Hey, don't move on to me. I'm done with you as well.

>>55406337
Just because someone points out the flaws in your precious jump doesn't make them shitty you tard.

>>55406463
>Calls someone a tard
>Tries to talk to someone who said they are leaving in the same post to get some sleep
>Either a coward or a genuine retard
Pfft.

>>55406473
Ignore him. It's just another cry for attention.
Let him rot.

>>55406383
According to the excerpt an anon posted that I double checked and is in the Jump it does.

>You’ll live the rest of your life on Gaea, which depending on your perks can be a very long time. If you endure the following eons, you might yet witness the rise and fall of martial arts magic If a Street Fighter Jump is created, you may spend ten years in that updated reality before jumping to another ‘verse. Changes you make in this jump apply to that one.

It says plain and clear that any changes you make in the first Jump can apply to the second. That the changes you make in the prehistory of Street Fighter, Asura's Wrath in this case, carry over. If you make any significant changes in the former Jump like managing to preserve mantra that completely overwrites the latter Jump's plot and setting.

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>>55406376
>You stupided yourselves into existence.
Sounds about right.

>>55406377
Purple adventuring gear is so tacky though. You can rely only pair it with gold well and at that point you might was well grab a cane to complete the pimp look.

I won't lie though. Blue magic is awesome and I'm going to grab it as soon as I can.

>>55406337
>can't properly respond to other peoples' arguments
>resorts to ad hominem to try to discredit his opponent
>struts off like he won
K.

>>55406492
K.

>>55406502
>>You stupided yourselves into extinction.
FTFY

>>55406528
I know what I typed!

>>55406555
>I know what I typed!
Your keyboard is lying to you, do not listen to its whispers no matter how seductive they are.

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>>55405512
shape changer, goddess of evolution, hard enough to keep me in line, soft enough to keep me Happy,10 out of 10 wife material.

>>55405293
>Exalted Charms Aren't Magic Though
Nigger them is fightin words. You shut the fuck up or provide me your address so we can settle this is person.

>>55406565
If anything I'm seducing my keyboard.

Did anyone not go Saiyan in the DB jumps?

Not blaming you for it, Saiyans are cool and all, just wondering who prioritized/liked another race more.

>>55406473
>>Tries to talk to someone who said they are leaving in the same post to get some sleep
>>Either a coward or a genuine retard
>actually taking someone who says they're "asking for a friend" or "not samefagging" at face-value
>implying saying you're withdrawing from an argument while still making bold claims makes your post immune to any criticism or further argument
>implying "going to sleep" or "leaving" matters when all of this is archived and he'll probably show up tomorrow at the latest

>>55406609
I just collected every race in them, but I did go Saiyan first in DB itself.

>>55406609
for one of them yes But for Dragon Ball Multiverse I went frost demon.

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>>55405304
So are yours, everyone's waifus are shit

>>55405438
Or the benefactor's name

>>55405512
Which one?

>>55405512
Storm/sea goddess. Tends to be pretty calm until she's not. She's a good fighter and has gotten me out of some deep shit. Been with me since the very beginning.

>>55406641
What's her name?

/jc/, I have a problem. I want to build big projects, but I don't have the resources. Where can I find perks that either let me build stuff using less resources or if not that then actual resources that will follow me so I can construct all the various things I want to?

>>55406400
Until the shittiest of our namefags got his paws all over.

Now she's just another pile of trash.

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ok, got basically zero feed back from last time so not that many changes made. Prices tentatively placed.
suggestions for more items are still welcome

>>55406637
>everyone's waifus are shit

Jalter is great. You a shit

>>55406677
Monste Hunter has a perk that halves resource use. Great for preserving magical materials

>>55406609
I go Earthling, because I'm not as limited in training time or options as Krillin, so it feels like a waste of CP to go Saiyan. I'll just catch up in-between Dragon Ball jumps.

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>>55406609
I went Frieza's race first chance I got. Mostly because I think the look is stylish, especially in the augmented form(s).

I did go Saiyan (or Monkey Kid) in the original Dragon Ball though, mostly because I like them more than Namekians and to have fun with kid Goku. Who is best Goku.

Then went with other races every jump, until hitting AF and picking Saiyan again. Would've been much more fun to go demon or something there, but I needed a fleet of Saiyans.

>>55406677
Supreme Commander might be all you ever need. It's fucking absurd for mass scale projects because of things like "Mass Generators."

>>55406698
t.Gilles de Rais

>>55406698
First thing I learned on /a/, if she's someone's waifu she's a shit.

>>55406712
So you want to play a Frost Demon?

>>55406609
Freiza race in AF, Machine Mutant in GT, and then finally Saiyan in Dragon Ball/Z while Multiverse was a gauntlet. So yes, but it was last.

>>55406696
What's this about?

>>55406706
No SS4?

>>55406721

Shut up or I'll waifu you

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>>55406712
My brother is that you?

>>55406729
group of friends coming together to find the witches that are spread through their school, each of whom have a special power (the witches i mean). nice slice of life and comedy

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>>55406609
I went human until GT when there was no Human option. So I said fuck it and went Saiyan.

>>55406740
I mean if you want to. I'm not gonna be tsun about it like Worm. I'm not into dudes though.

>>55406731
If Saiyans can get a monkey transformation because they're really just dirty monkeys inside, then the same should be true for humans.

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>>55406722
Yup. They're cool.

>>55406731
It's just a power multiplier that can be matched with time or jumper bullshit. When I feel like being a monkey, I just use my Captain Simian and The Space Monkeys altform.

The only drawback is that post-DBZ jumps are stuck near the end of my chain, but I'm pretty okay with that. Being the guy that can train outside of their reality has it's advantages.

>>55405705
I think Duct Tape Fusion from Invader Zim might work

>>55406431
More specifically she's a Kahuna, and in Alola that means the Tapu chose her to be the big boss Trainer of your island.

There's not a guy in Alola who thinks he has a chance with the literal chosen of the gods, leading to the situation you described.

>>55406609
I did. But I really, really wish Arcosian/Frost Demon/Frieza Clan was an option in more jumps. Being a young Arcosian and basically growing up with Goku in Dragonball, going into Z, and watching the Saiyans freak that there's one of Frieza's race on Earth would be hilarious.

>>55406702
>>55406716
Thanks!

>>55406816
You'd be the only one around to redeem your race, ever since Frost was revealed as an asshole.

>>55406760
>NANI!?

>>55406857
what do you want to build

>>55406760
Who is more irritating? Mary Sue DBM Bra, or spoiled daddy's girl GT Bra?

>>55406865
I shall be the frostiest Frost Demon to ever exist!

>>55405444
Who?

What kind of tech does the stellaris personal battleship have?

>>55406897
Maru Sue Bra is more obnoxious. Daddy's Girl Bra is basically just young Bulma and could grow out of it well enough, Multiverse Bra has near uncontainable rage and bullheaded stubborn arrogance like the worst parts of Vegeta and Goku.

>>55406816
That is actually something I wish was a thing as well, not that I hate being a saiyan but I would prefer to be an Arcosian like that.

>>55406894
Lots of stuff. Floating cities, huge space stations, star dreadnaughts, just massive engineering feats in general. Smaller stuff is nice too, but there's excitement in building big things that awe and amaze everyone.

>>55406933
There's stuff for both materials and large projects in the Sonic the Hedgehog jumps.

>>55406897
I'm going to guess the Mary Sue, if only because I don't actually remember GT Bra (like so much of GT).

>>55406958
Oh, that's helpful! Thanks, Sleuth Anon!

>>55406933
Biomega could be helpful for the structural integrity

>>55406986
Nice, that'll be great for the big projects. Thanks!

>>55406925
So she's Korra?

>>55406924
It's p big.

>>55407000
There's also something in Blame! called Perspective, or something similar? Sense of Scale?

Something along those lines.

>>55407015
Wow, there are a lot more perks for this kind of stuff then I thought. Thanks a bunch.

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>>55406609
Saiyan in DB and Z
Machine Mutant in GT
Saiyan again in AF
Cell type Bio-Android in Multiverse since it says it gives you Frost Demon, Namekian and Saiyan traits and abilities
When Xenoverse is done probably Majin

So, why hasn't anyone done an Ah! My Goddess Jump yet? Seems like a comfy Jump all said.

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Anyone have a list of perks to make me just straight up bigger? Hoping to stack them with Kubera size upgrades when it is done.

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>>55407031
Hatchiyak always reminds me of that one old arcade game villain that's extremely obscure and that nobody remembers because he doesn't show up in anything else. Even Heroes forgot him.

>>55407031
>Machine Mutant
I do not get what is so great about Machine Mutant.

>>55407039
They'd have to account for how heaven mind controls and castrates people.

>>55407050
It's a more flexible version of the Big Gette Star, in that you can fuse with metal and make it your body, with no upper size limit. That means you can integrate any amount of technology with yourself.

>>55407056
Wait what?

>>55406924
Well, since it's described as being able to give pause to Fallen Empires... I would guess it's got the top-of-the-tech-tree levels of advanced tech?

Which means a Tachyon Lance for the main gun, similarly advanced smaller guns, Dragonscale Armor, Enigmatic Deflectors, Jump Drives, and so on with all the good stuff.

It's Tachyon Lance should basically one-shot every other ship you encounter, two-shot if it's got /really/ good armor. That's the biggest particle beam weapon the game field, short of Titan lasers.
>A more powerful version of the particle lance, this weapon fires a tachyon beam of immense power. Like its predecessor, its use is limited to large turrets.

Dragonscale Armor's pretty damn sturdy and self-repairing, the upgrade above neutronium materials armor.
>The Ether Drake's scales are made up of multiple layers of unique mineral nanostructures. Unorthodox manufacturing techniques allow us to closely emulate these self-repairing structures.

Enigmatic Deflectors are pretty ridiculous in terms of shields.
>These deflectors operate in ways that seem to defy the laws of nature. Somehow they can manage to muster a protective field many times greater than what could seem possible.

And jump drives are the fastest FTL you can get in Stellaris. Huge range, instant once activate
>A groundbreaking technological marvel, the Jump Drive shreds the local space-time continuum and rearranges it on the quantum level to be identical to that of the target destination - and thus the ship appears to near-instantly "jump" from system to system.

Also, depending on what scale you think makes sense for Stellaris, it's anywhere from Super Star Destroyer size to "that's no moon" size.

>>55407066
It's revealed at the end of the series. The MC has been subject to various mind controls, resets, and magical castration throughout the series so as to prevent him from anything romantic or sexual with the girls.

>>55407056
The MC has his sex drive suppressed by heaven until he gets married to his love interest, basically forced abstinence.

>>55407074
...exactly how powerful are the heavens in this setting? Because this sounds like a situation that calls for an intervention.

>>55406924
>>55407069
Jump Drives are pretty decent FTL, by the way. As in, it takes you maybe two or three jumps to cross a galaxy. Only issue comes in at larger scales, where we know that intergalactic travel is possible, but that the game never gives you the tech to do. Only an enemy faction gets it.

>>55407092
>Defying heaven's will

>>55407092
Approximately on the same level as Tenchi's endgame scenario.

>>55407092
Ehhhhhh, I think people make it sound worse than it actually is. I mean the guy basically unintentionally forced a Goddess in to slavery, Heaven making sure he doesn't abuse that makes perfect sense to me.

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>>55407049
He had a dumb transformation

>>55407069
>two-shot if it's got /really/ good armor.
Derp, wait. That's supposed to be /really/ good shields.

Armor's gonna be burned through, shields might keep a battleship alive a bit longer against a Tachyon.

>>55407094
Yup. That's the good stuff.

Hm, you could take the drawback and try to reverse-engineering their intergalactic travel while/after fighting them off?

>>55407074
See >>55407086 and >>55407122 and he has plenty of romance with Belldandy, hell he gets her a ring and it's super important in the Niflheim arc.

>>55407092
Kami-Sama is literally omnipotent. He and his only equal, his wife, take care of two sides (Good fluffy shit and evil bad shit) of the universe by making sure that everything works out.

>>55407128
Well he was basically recycled from old Cell designs, so it's no surprise. His transformation is just exploding Cell.

>>55407062
Wow that is pretty cool, so I could cobble together a bunch of super computers then fuse with them and go fight others.

>>55407122
No they just should have had something in place to prevent dumb off the cuff wishes that people are likely to make when offered wishes by shady divine beings who don't bother giving any proof that they're real.

>>55407148
Among any number of vehicles and weapons, yes.

>>55407146
>literally omnipotent
>his equal
Nah.

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What do you guys companion for?

In other words, what is it that compels you to drag other people into the worlds you visit, in place of just handling everything with your own power/abilities? Let's be real here, even a Jumper that goes all out on companions would have a much simpler time surviving most jumps without the dead weight.

Is it for emotional support? To justify pulling people out of their rightful homes? The lewdosity? Or do you just like having the personal cheer squad?

>>55407146
>>55407086
You're not disagreeing with me. You're just trying to make excuses and put it in a better light to defend the idea of heaven chemically castrating and mind controlling someone.

>>55407159
Awesome, maybe I should go and change my race then, I do not have to worry about getting bigger unless I want to right?

>>55407148
Assuming you buy the capstone, yeah.

Not sure why you want to beat people up with supercomputers, but I ain't judging.

>>55407134
Logically you'd be able to.

>>55406897
I liked Daddy's girl GT Bra, because she added something new to Vegeta's character, showing yet more character growth.

>>55407163
No they are equals and dance around each other so that the world can stay existing.

>>55407173
You do get bigger. You're fusing with the stuff, not absorbing it.

>>55407166
>Is it for emotional support?
This. Living for thousands of years and having no one who can actually relate to you would be pretty painful, I'd assume.

>>55407166
I like having friends and family, and I like taking buffing skills and abilities so between all the imports and my own efforts they aren't dead weight. Have you never gone companion build before??

>>55407177
Meant more along the lines of increasing my Jumpers mental abilities so he can fight better.

>>55407173
>>55407190
You being bigger isn't an issue, really. You can form yourself an independent avatar from the metal. Rilldo does it himself, despite becoming the entire planet he creates a working, moving metal body to interact with Goku and co.

>>55407166
I companioned Heather "Candy Store" "Mythic Bitch" Chandler primarily because her voice makes me go UMF.

>>55407166
Waifus and laziness, waifus are fun and I just don't want to do everything myself.

Also there are numerous ways to use companions to vastly increase personal power. Such as using power sharing perks like those from Generic Isekai or SMT to get all their purchases for yourself.

That or companion focused builds that can let you massively buff all your companions to a retarded extent. Using Science! or Magic! to make all your companions just as powerful as you save for perks which end up being a trivial portion of your power thanks to all your gains form Science! and Magic!

>>55407166
It's more narratively interesting for the jumper to have other people who are in on the secret and collaborating with him.

>>55405498
Found it but it took a bit.

Omnilingualism (100 CP)(Free Drop In): You gain the ability to be able to decipher any form of communication be it written, spoken, or even hand signs. You can also decipher entire languages just from a sentence or some gestures. Does not include learning advanced martial arts from an interpretive dancing class.

Thanks guys, being able to figure out the entire language from some gestures will be helpful when I get to the eragon jump.

>>55407166
I don't have just one reason. I like having helpers, and I do enjoy the ego boost that comes with people who appreciate my crafting/healing build. I want friends and lovers, and I like watching what people without jumper's weird power do with their lives. Really, humans are social animals and my jumper never abandoned that aspect of being human.

>>55407255
What jump is that from?

>>55407166
Overlord NPC as the main companion because I need someone close to being my equal.

3 OCs from Generic Isekai, one male two female. They were free, really no other reason to taking them.

Nakiri Erina because I wanted a personal chef.

Shirayuki Mizore because she's got it a bit tough and I feel like helping her, not to mention it makes the harem in that series a little less difficult for the MC.

And I am currently searching for male companions, as it is obviously lopsided toward females.

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Changelog: Not much of note.
>Fixed a couple formatting errors
>Added the Delicious drawback
>Added the Anatman perk
>Staff of Agni can shift into a different type of magic if you want.
>Probably some other minor quibbling fix that I forgot between noon and now.

>>55407274
>>55407255
Sorry I forgot to put the jump, Its from heroes, one of the better perks from it imho.

>>55407278
If we take To Bear God’s Name or Delicious, would our Clan either we made or the one we bought try to get us?

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>>55407288
I don't believe so, no. IIRC, Sura only eat Sura from other clans. Probably because everyone in the same clan is only, like, 4 generations down from the same group of Nastikas.

>>55407166
I don't want to be alone.

>>55407166
I don't have companions, Where are all of my lonely brothers at?

Does magic in Harry Potter use any form of magical energy or mana? I'm not sure if Perceptive from Generic Isekai would apply to it in regards to letting me cast without incantation or wand. Or would the perk work even when applied to magic system without mana?

>>55407346
Dead, because they got into a situation they couldn't handle and no one could help.

>>55407328
Alright that is good for me. To Bear God’s Name isn't a fiat where no matter what everyone will want to kill me, it is just one where everyone will start out that way and I can change their mind right?

Most of the drawbacks seem brutal for someone who wants to bring peace to both sides like me.

>>55407278
How does the gods' 1 resurrection per jump work Post-Chain?

>>55407360
Harry Potter metaphysics are notoriously... absent. The fandom had to dream up systems that JK wasn't interested in including.

>>55407166
I'm a collector, I've got 927 companions

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>>55407377
Yeah, it's not Fiat. It'll probably be damn hard though, since the various sura clans munch on each other's lower ranking members, the gods have an instinctive hate for them, and the humans have a quite reasonable dislike of them after they threw a tantrum and started destroying inhabited planets about 1000 years ago.

>>55407399
It returns to- oh, I just realized I accidentally spark-locked it. No, it's supposed to return to infinite-use post-chain, not just if you get your spark. Fixed.

>>55407374
>Implying people cant befriend people that are not companions

>>55407166
I don't want to spend who knows how many centuries traveling the multiverse alone. Not being able to take anyone with me or share my experiences with sounds horrifying.

Plus you know how some games become stupidly easy if you specialize as a summoner or just acquire a bunch of followers/minions? Jumpchain is kinda like that, having a group of loyal companions who're even just a fraction as strong as you is extremely useful.

It's also really easy to abuse companion imports in certain jumps to get more stuff than you'd normally be able to.

And the lewd aspects are also nice.

>>55405963
Double Cross and Generic Universal Monsters.

>>55407360
It's never been mentioned. Though, they don't seem to tire from using magic, so I'd guess not.

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>>55406609
... I mean, we've got like five DB jumps now, so I think if you're interested in collecting altforms at all you'd have to be trying NOT to pick it up.
Which doesn't mean you can't, especially since it costs a buttload of points in some of them, but. I feel like, at this point, "I'm not going to be a Saiyan" is more of a conscious decision than not.

Anyway, I went Saiyan in the very first Dragon Ball jump, and then in DBZ I just imported into it for the sake of continuity. I mainly just picked it for the sake of being able to say I was basically meant to be Goku's Nappa -- and then I got distracted by hotdogs and ramen and called the whole planetary conquering thing off.
This is legit my story. Goku got brain damage, and I got distracted by food, and that's how the Earth was saved.

In AF I was a Freeza Demon, or whatever the fuck they're called, and I walked around Earth buying cute clothes and hanging out in coffee shops.
In GT I picked Android for the sake of discounts and very slightly altering the backstory, then immediately altform'd back to Saiyan, where I was somewhat comparable to Pan in terms of story relevance.

>>55407166
Cuz I think they're neat, and entertaining, and fun, and that's basically it.

>>55407360
Nope, hp magic is basically command based low scale reality warping, now before someone reeees at me I want to say I dont care about magic vs reality warping, the kids and people say a thing and flick a stick and thing happens.

Though some spells do require catalysts like avada kedavra needs hate and patronus need happiness.

>>55407423
>Implying any of those "friends" will understand you or trust you in a reasonable time-frame
>Implying they'll be strong enough to help you

>>55407422
>Yeah, it's not Fiat. It'll probably be damn hard though, since the various sura clans munch on each other's lower ranking members, the gods have an instinctive hate for them, and the humans have a quite reasonable dislike of them after they threw a tantrum and started destroying inhabited planets about 1000 years ago.

Alright my jumper could probably fix them with that drawback then. Hope we can get more drawbacks added, less brutal ones at that.

Thanks for the jump and all the hard work Anon Heart.

>>55406696
People actively try to ignore this jump.

>>55407400
>>55407443
>>55407463
So, is the jumpmaker of Generic Isekai around? I'd like to know if Perceptive would also work on Harry Potter magic.

>>55407464
>implying you cant make new friends in under 10 years or at least gain their trust
>Not believing in the power of friendship

>>55407479
Well, there are several things which hint at magical traces and "residue". And there are spells and items which can detect magic. So maybe not the wandless and non-verbal and what-not, but probably for the other things.

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>>55407166

Everyone I recruit has potential, When I seek to recruit the companion must show me potential and specialty. Almost all of my companions has something that they are masters of and second to none

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>>55407424
Hey KOTOR Anon, just to confirm, the Imperial Vehicle Blueprints include all vehicles except the Eclipse/Death Star/other superweapons with the Executor being the strongest included, right? Does that include unique stuff like the Arc Hammer?

>>55407502
You might be their friends, but they won't be yours.

>implying "friendship" does anything without some supernatural method of harnessing it
>implying friendship wouldn't be best between brothers and sisters who have worked with each other for hundreds of years

>>55407278
> it can be used to open a gate to the Sura realm
Post-jump will there be something like the Sura realm we can be taken to?

Friendly reminder that the only reason people want Charms to count as spells is so they can wank Indefinite+ length Perfect Defenses.

>>55407554
>Believing you cant do anything without perks or fiat
>Implying deep friendships need to have a determined amount of time

>>55407537
That's the ship from Empire at War used to produce Dark Troopers right? If so, yeah that can be included since it's not technically a superweapon.

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>>55407166
I can't do everything by myself, and in all these different worlds I want a sense of stability. If I didn't have Sain, Zappy, and EMIYA around, I'd probably be dead already.

One thing that will always remain the same, outside of me and my possessions. Someone who will always be there. They can go if they want, but for a time I want someone who I can always trust. Who will stick by me. Who I can talk to and they can understand.

Also I really like certain characters and I want to bask in their coolness, I want them to be my friend. Lewd aspects are fine, but in the end sex isn't a huge priority on my mind as it is emotional stability and friendship and cuddles.

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>>55407562
Yes, but I'm currently debating on if I should have it instead send you to the local equivalent of hell in worlds that have that.

>>55407479
You'd be able to sense magic in things like wands, time turners, etc, and magical creatures. You'd also be able to sense spells going off. And you could probably get a rough idea of the intent behind the spells, since HP magic is so intent-based.

You'd also probably have better control over your own magic, so you likely wouldn't need to worry about accidental magic.

Also, wards and curses would be way easier to understand, probably.

>>55405512
"Six men came to kill me one time, and the best of them carried this. It's a Callahan Full-bore Auto-lock. Customized trigger, double cartridge, thorough gauge. This is my very favorite gun... I call it 'Vera'." - Jayne Cobb, Firefly

>>55407622
Wait the Sura realm is basically Hell? Vishnu sent all the superior Sura to hell and had them watch their families die slowly?

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>>55407646
It's a toxic hellscape that a lot of them have trouble surviving in, yeah. Vishnu promised that he'd show up and make it more livable, but then he didn't, so Gandharva had to expend most of his energy purifying the local area so that his family wouldn't all die. And then this lead to someone kidnapping his daughter in order to mug him while he was weak. It's all very depressing, and all Vishnu's fault.

>>55407689
So what you are saying is we need to go back in time and kill Vishnu?

>>55407603
>Implying talent, physics and genetics aren't at the very least soft-caps on most peoples' ability to grow
>Believing you don't need perks to milk benefits out of a meta trope that demonstrably doesn't work that way in reality
>Implying that ten years is enough to fully understand and empathize with a millennia old traveler who's been to realms beyond your imagining
>Implying anything less is needed for true friendship

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Screw it! I claim Ah My Goddess

>>55407632
But I wouldn't be able to cast without incantations or wands?

>>55407699
>Implying that people don't become friends without fully understanding the complete history and mindset of others.

>>55407703
Neat intro. I also like how you handled the reality warping. I'm looking forward to the jump.

>>55407699
>You took your sweet time
>Implying jumper cant help them lift those limits
>Implying jumper cant create benefits with knowledge and magic systems acquired
>Implying >>55407746

>>55407703
Can we not have 500 extra CP just for going in the world as normal? That seems a litttle bit over the top.

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>>55407698
I mean, to be fair, the sura's had spent the last thousand years in a war with the humans and all but the four primordial gods (Vishnu, Brahma, Shiva, and for some reason, Kali), and he /also/ banished all the gods to the divine realm, so it's not like he wasn't equal-handed about it. And some the Sura do like the place.

>The sura realm is a desolate and poisonous place. It is described as a huge, barren environment with a red and black sky and foul air capable of dissolving flesh. The gravity is so strong that ordinary people could have their bones broken. Despite the size, the landscape is monotonous, so it is easy to get lost. Because Vishnu's protection does not apply in the sura realm, suras who like to fight actually prefer their realm to the human realm. Superior suras have no need to suppress their powers, since this realm is much more stable and can withstand attacks that would otherwise cause massive destruction. In the sura realm, attacks that destroy several stars in the human realm only change the terrain slightly. Makara demonstrated this by shattering a mountain and explaining that the same attack would have destroyed a planet in the human realm.

That being said, yeah, he's an asshole who needs a firm shanking.

>>55407632
Hey Softanon, quick question about The System. How does the EXP cost for leveling up scale? Exponentially, logarithmically, a flat increase every level? Or is this yet another thing you're just supposed to fanwank?

>>55407754
Thanks.

>>55407767
Reworded so you don't have to take it. Hardcore Jumpers can be Hardcore all they wish.

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>>55407819
>>55407767
Here you go.

>>55407819
That's not what I meant anon. I meant it shouldn't be in there at all because that whole section makes no sense. Why is there such a protection in the first place, unless these guys are actively hostile? If it needs to be there, don't make it some 500cp worthy perk equivalent, just have it be a free thing like how Worm handles it.

>>55407865
I like it this way.

>>55407769
>That being said, yeah, he's an asshole who needs a firm shanking.
Will do so.

You never did put in that drawback to start at the beginning of the universe. Also what are the chances of an item stipend for Nastika and Astika to represent how over the long period of time since their creation they have accumulated resources?

>>55407705
I don't really know enough about HP to say for sure either way. At the very least, I would say you would be able to learn wordless/wandless magic way easier than other wizards.

>>55407781
While I do believe in the value of fanwank, and also suck terribly at math, I would say it probably scales nonlinearly. I dunno, cubic scaling? Something like that.

>>55407705
That's pretty built into the system. I think you'd need outside perks or a bunch of practice to do that.

Although reminder that Dumbledore can cast magic without incantations or wands, so it's possible to learn. It's just hard and most wizards are pussies.

>>55407882
Why? Are these beings extremely likely to kill or harm you? What justifies this protection and the high amount of bonus points you get for giving it up, especially since it stinks of being practically free extra starting points?

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>>55407885
I don't think they actually bothered to do that in canon, so no item stipend for them, I'm afraid.

Also, thank you for the reminder, adding the "Start at the beginning" location + Drawback now.

>>55407902
The school in Africa teaches some Wandless magic, and the American one used to but doesn't anymore, or at least doesn't do as much anymore.

>>55407887
How do the stats scale? Is it just linearly? Does the gaining of Skill Points/cost of skills stay the same?

>>55407607
Cool, thanks.

>>55407887
>I don't really know enough about HP to say for sure either way. At the very least, I would say you would be able to learn wordless/wandless magic way easier than other wizards.
Alright. Looks like I'll still have to buy Non-Verbal Specialty and Wandless Magic in the Harry Potter jump. Back to my old build again.

>cubic scaling
Looks like I'm even worse at math then you then, because that tells me nothing. Even googling the term gets me nothing usefull. How'd that scaling go?

>>55407819
>>55407833
That kind of misses the point. You shouldn't get a ton of free CP just for going to a setting without "protection" for deities that aren't even that likely to do much.

Hell, there's settings like Chick Tracts, where there's an essentially insane omnipotent ready to smite you if it cares enough. And that doesn't have any special protection, and most certainly not extra points for not taking that protection.

>>55407907
It has to do with the nature of AMG.

The big theme of a Jumper is a power fantasy but since you literally are given stuff by Jump-Chan/the system your Fortune is through the roof just by being a Jumper. This means that the Gods can't help you and demons will be able to program a equal and opposite amount of Misinformation for you into the system,

>>55405963
Eclipse Phase and The Polity if you have a robot brain.

>>55407928
>I don't think they actually bothered to do that in canon, so no item stipend for them, I'm afraid.

Ah that is a shame then, oh well.

Welcome about the reminder, wonder how everyone will react to me being named Kubera too.

>>55407971
Misfortune dangit.

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>>55407632

Can I roll NPs If I go to nasuverse and have Gacha? Or only mystic codes?... Or waifus?

>>55407703

You. I like you.

>>55407971
For one that seems an entirely different situation than what you wrote down in the jump. For two, that seems easily solvable by just saying that your fortune from before the jump/during the jumps build does not count for in jump, rather then negating the setting like this.

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ok, huge thanks to NuBee for helping with this. various perks clarified and prices adjusted

>>55407703
>Almighty, Kami-sama...
Might mention that his name is actually Tyr, especially since you're using Hild's name (instead of, say, Daimakaicho.)

>>55407971
If demons are the problem, why did you write about the Gods needing to be good hosts? It feels like you're trying to cover up a mistake here.

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So I managed to defeat my Bugster and have updated the source doc with the actual bits for Freedom Fighters and companions. Anything else people want me to give a pass over with this minorly corrected version? I've heard something about making Ancestral Weapon importable, but otherwise I'm lazy and don't wanna do too many edits/uploads so. Getting them all in one go is better for me

>>55407887
>and also suck terribly at math
It'd probably be better to say about how long it would take to train, then. Is your intent to make it take Xianxia timescales to achieve each "level", for example?

>>55407987
Noble Phantasms are generally unique though, and wouldn't be available via gacha.
You could probably pick up a Fragarach though.

>>55407987
Oh thanks.

>>55407991
Why should I negate a neat thing that could be a good writing prompt?

>>55408005
I used her title in the second part of the Hell overview.

>>55408011
Because both of them should be good hosts!

>>55407946
You gain a flat amount of skill points every level (say, 100 of them) but the cost of skills changes based on how suitable you are for them. For example, if you're a snake, buying Swordsmanship will be more expensive than if you were a human. But generally speaking a skill won't get cheaper than 50 points, assuming you get 100 on level up.

Stats are probably fine linearly? I guess? I'm not a game designer, so I can't really give you a good answer there.

>>55407956
Basically if exponential scaling is "cost increases by 2^x (where x is the number of levels" then cubic scaling is x^3. So the slope is more gentle because the exponent is a constant instead of a variable.

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>>55407166
Loyalty and devotion. The other things can be acquired later.

>>55408058
But...you already ARE negating it. You just explained that this option was to negate it.

And whether they are good hosts or not seems largely irrelevant to your justification for this decision. Why did you not include the actual reason in the jump itself?

>>55408083
No the option is to take away the protection.

>>55407981
There's, like, a crap-ton of people named Kubera. It's actually a plot point, so spoilers for anyone reading.

A mage named Asha is going around murdering them in order to do a ritual which will let him increase his Divine Affinity. The Suras, on the other hand, want to murder them all because... reasons. Something about the god Kubera having sacrificed his name in order to murder the Nastika, Ananta, (the due who's so big that he dwarfs multiple galaxies) and now wants to get it back, and Ananta's clan is helping him, because in return he'll help them find + resurrect Ananta or something? I'm not actually clear on the details behind this.

>>55408058
Them being good hosts doesn't seem very important compared to this stuff about demons. It feels like you're confirming that you just wanted an excuse to get 1500 at the start now. Please handle it in the way other people have handled similar setting problems.

>>55408083
Also on the subject of hosts they should be good hosts, that's why both God and Hild got told to be so.

>>55408094
Ah, I know that but I was talking about me, a Nastika at the beginning of the universe being named Kubera too.

>>55408093
Which doesn't need to give points. It can be given up for free, like in any other jump like Worm that does similar things. You don't need to give half again the starting points for this when there are other, easily handled ways that still keep the interesting bits you want.

>>55408094
Same guy but, Asha is a female last I checked.

>>55408111
I'm not doing anything but acknowledging the questions as they're asked anon. The host question and the protection question were separate things, please don't mix them up!

>>55408039
Hey Digger, that gif made me think of something. Are you planning on doing something for Sonic Mania/Sonic Forces, since apparently those two are connected story wise?

>>55407278
Why are Gods worth as much as the Sura?

>>55408117
But why didn't you mention any of this actually important stuff about demons and fortune to explain it? You just said if you had that much fortune, the Gods wouldn't be able to do anything, so telling them to be good hosts doesn't matter for the problem here.

>>55407987
I would clasify NPs as skills (in the isekai game system sense) rather than items. The comparison isn't perfect, but that's why I'd say you couldn't roll them in gacha. Although, would Servants count as monsters? Hmm.

>>55408046
Lord, no. This is all JRPG/MMO ripoff shit. You can generally advance pretty quickly if you're good at grinding, and defeating stuff strong enough to threaten you will usually guarantee at least one full level up. If you're anything like the typical LN protag, you can expect to luck into an easy kill of some high-level threat at some point early in your adventure, too.

>>55407833
Being able to disregard the inherent danger of the omnipotents is a nice touch but is giving up that protection really worth 500 CP? Maybe include a drawback that forfeits that protection while also drawing their ire?

>>55408163

If anything it'll be an Adventure(I'm not callin em scenarios because at best many of them'd probably be a paragraph and it feels disingenuous to call something so short a scenario)

>>55408058
If you feel the need to include this "writing prompt", do it as a drawback? Just do what >>55407991 said, instead of fucking with the setting.

Also, considering your "good hosts" thing only cover Kami and Hild... wouldn't it not protect at all against all the demons under Hild?

>>55408117
...Okay, seriously for a moment. Are you just being deliberately obtuse, or is this a reference to something?

>>55408149
I believe he's implying that it feels suspicious that your reasoning for such a high bonus...perk thingy I guess? is so different from what you gave in jump. In jump you imply it's because of these Gods that you get the points but that isn't supported by what you said out of it. it's confusing, contradictory and gives the impression that you wanted a more easily swallow able excuse for what you're doing.

>>55408173
Couldn't you roll an item that grants a skill though? Like a skill book or something?

>>55408058
>I used her title in the second part of the Hell overview.
You also used her name, which is why I mentioned that Tyr should also be named. Given the whole family situation of the main cast, it's only fair. Also, Tyr fits the norse references everywhere else.

>>55408125
Oh! ... Shit, hold on. That's actually a legit issue, because of the whole Names are power thing.

>>55408147
Oh, I accidentally called her a dude, didn't I? Whoops. No, yeah, she's a girl.

>>55408165
You mean as Nastika? They've got a bunch of free abilities, and being one basically guarantees you survive the jump- infinite resurrection is legit one of their basic abilities. Plus the most powerful of them can match against Nastika if they absolutely need to. Kubera managed to take out Ananta,
for example, while most Nastika aren't really fond of the idea of fighting beings like Indra.

>>55408184
That seems like it would be an entirely different animal, and basically one of those unwinnable 600+ cp drawbacks.

>>55408073
If I wanted to buy Accelerator's (from Railgun/Index, basically vector manipulation) without being any more suitable for it than a normal guy, how much points would you say would it cost? Just a ballpark. I'm kinda bad at freeform perks like that, so an example would help.

>>55408193
Oh, that sounds cool. Looking forward to that, then. If you don't mind me asking, are both Classic and Archie Sonic getting Adventures? Asking since I remember 'Not a True Ending' mentioning Adventures would be added, and I figure a Mania/Forces Adventure would be for Classic Sonic.

>>55408228
Well not their full on really want to kill you kind of ire, more like them just disliking you and willing to fuck with you in any way that doesn't break their game.

>>55408219
>Oh! ... Shit, hold on. That's actually a legit issue, because of the whole Names are power thing.
I am a Nastika and Astika now, there is nothing you can do to stop me ANON HEART!

It is going to be disallowed to Nastika or just to people who take it at the beginning of the universe drawback?

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>>55408140
So you want no CP for giving up your Jump-Chan induced protection against being reprogrammed! Okay!

>>55408167
>>55408184
Done and done.

>>55408204
Wording and CP problem has been fixed.

>>55408217
Okay no problem I'll slid it in next update

>>55408274
Man your Jumpchan voice is fucking annoying.

>>55408173
Wait you can't get Skills through the Gacha? Don't those tend to give out powers in Isekai? Or is it just that you can't get them directly and need to roll an item that provides the Skill?

>>55408212
You can only roll stuff that exists, either in your current jump or your past jumps. I am not entirely certain, but afaik, there is no canonical item that teaches NPs to people. But OoC stuff could work in weird ways that I don't know about.

>>55408230
Hm. Assuming you have no way to augment suitability or affect the cost, and that the skill would start at level 1 (whereas I would say that in-universe, Accelerator's Vector Manipulation skill would be maxed at level 99, or close to it), I would suggest... 15 full levelups? Again, for the level 1 version, which would probably let you modify a vector via 10% increments per second, or something like that.

>>55408274
Looks a lot better.

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>>55408263
I'll probably try and write in an alt-explanation with the same effect for Nastika. Maybe something like your own name's becoming unstable, and anyone who kills you will be able to take it's power.

>>55408173
>I would clasify NPs as skills (in the isekai game system sense) rather than items. The comparison isn't perfect, but that's why I'd say you couldn't roll them in gacha. Although, would Servants count as monsters? Hmm.

Can I use Skill Book to copy them? Or maybe their skills instead of NPs at least?

>>55408292
I like that effect more then the original now, if only because I still go by my name.

>>55408290
>You can only roll stuff that exists,
Damn, that sort of sucks. It takes a lot out of the value of the Gacha in many settings. I had kinda thought it was as good as Upgrade or System having read some Isekai with Gachas.

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>>55408274
>By the way for you guys who met L-Chan back in Slayers. She says “Hi!”
Pic Related?

>>55408073
>So the slope is more gentle
Other way around senpai.

>>55408274
Wow, that sounds sarcastic. Still better than free points, I suppose?

Also, it's a little nonsensical right now. Apparently the can see a massive amount of Fortune... for absolutely no reason, because all our "nifty stuff" doesn't exist to them.

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Hey, I've run into an unexpected problem. I want to post my Donkey Kong Country jump here, but for some reason the Reply to Thread tab keeps saying that my document's too big. My Peter Pan one was larger than it! ...Actually, it looks like it won't take that one either anymore.

I already have a Google Doc, but I added a bunch of pictures to the PDF to make things more colorful, so I'm not sure what to do.

Should I post it in the drive's WIP folder so people can view it from there, or should I do something else? I had a lot of fun designing the jump, and I don't want it to go to waste. Please let me know what my strategy should be.

>>55408290
So we have been to Generic Isekai where, it being a stereotypical Iskekai world, there are probably items for just getting skills. Then could we go to another world and roll that item but for a Skill in the other world?

>>55408307
Some NPs, which don't have physical forms and are functionally identical to being skills, could probably be copied. The actual, literal skills could definitely be copied.

>>55408316
Its worth depends on the value of the loot you're dealing with. I expect it could be quite valuable in some xianxia, or settings with lots of magical artifacts.

>>55408348
You're summoning things that already exist, not creating new things. What you're asking doesn't really make sense under that assumption.

>>55408290
>15 full levelups
Yeah, that sounds fair. Still got one last question though. Can Upgrade upgrade the level of skills you have, or only their potency without affecting their level? Like, would upgrading Vector Manipulation increase its level, or its power while while the skill itself remains at level 1?

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>>55408362
>Some NPs, which don't have physical forms and are functionally identical to being skills, could probably be copied. The actual, literal skills could definitely be copied.

Thanks SoftAnon. You're great.

>>55408345
Post the Google Doc I guess.

>>55408331
Whoops. Like I said, bad at math. So the opposite of that, then.

>>55408348
If you've been to a setting that has a "copy any skill" item, that item would logically be on your drop tables.

>>55408290
Kinda random question: what's the one skill/ability you think would cost the most skill points to purchase? Something like True Magic or just something that has a lot of potential for biggatons later down the line?

>>55408384
>pic
One day...one day you shall be saved and not need to live in despair.