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Old and Busted Edition

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RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

Thread Question: What pet card do you have that got made obsolete somewhere along the line?
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Build with your head
Play with your dick
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>>55284983
SHOW ME YOUR DINO-HYPE FACE TG!
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>>55285112
I'm not going to run Dino tribal
I'm going to run Dino fight club with enrage enablers and dragon eggs
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>>55285127
>Dino fight club
I wish MtG had more drawfags.
I'd love an image of Magus of the Arena wrestling a Regisaur Alpha to the ground
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>>55285112
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>>55285112
hypehypehypehypehype
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>>55285112
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I'm thinking about doing BU storm mill with Circu.

Any ideas on making it more obnoxious?
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To go to prerelease, or to just buy singles?
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>>55285447
I will guy to the prerelease to play sealed and have fun, but all cards I am missing after that I wil buy as singles.

>>55285112
TOO FAST
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>>55285447
both
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>>55284983
>Thread Question
I'm not sure which card precisely made him obsolete, given there's been a slew of more efficient beaters printed since 2006, but Borborygmos isn't nearly as sweet as he once was. I can't bring myself to take him out of my Xenagod list though because my original copy (which I still have, beat to shit but resting easy in a sleeve) was the first real rare I ever had. I was gifted the card at a time where I had no idea what colors I really wanted to play, but rest assured, after that day, I knew my fate was sealed in the Gruul Clans. You can't replicate that kind of sentiment, and thus, Borborygmos will always reside in the ranks of Xenagod's legion of big guys.
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>>55285443
Obviously, you have to be playing Aetherflux Reservoir. The card is just too much fun.
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>>55285447
Definitely hit the Prerelease.
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>>55285443
Lots of exile effects so that you can beat a deck that uses eldrazi and so that you don't just feed your opponents cards that they can use for reanimation or recasting.
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>>55285485
>Aetherflux + Exquisite blood
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>>55285498
Do I need to play people in Prerelease or can I just get the Prerelease pack and leave?
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>>55284983
Oh yeah, for sure. This card's only purpose is to trigger "if you cast a multicolored spell" effects and being retrieved from Reborn Hope.

I still love this card. Beck // Call twice is heaven.
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>>55285613
You can do the latter if you're lame.
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Guess the deck.
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>>55285655
Ghave, Guru of Spores.
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>>55285655
You already rushed one thread to bump limit, please stop
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>>55285655
Gishath
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>>55284983
>found some seller who sold some kamigawa legends
>bought 17 for like 10€
>no idea what to do with them

most of them were green or blue, reki was among them too. guess I can build reki legend storm.
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>>55285671
>red
>no black
>Ghave
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Oy, what's your favourite monocolored commander?
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>>55285655
Uril Bestow.
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>>55285795
Exploration as a general is fun.
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>>55285795
Reki. He's fun. I don't play him hypercompetitive, but he does work.
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>>55285795
Dosan because I don't like my Primal Surge getting countered :(
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>>55285879
>>55285850
>>55285848
Three monogreen in a row. How can other monos compete? I used to hate monocolor because I thought they all played the same.

But I found out that if you're willing to lose some of the crazy ramp, green doesn't have to be boring.
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>>55285474
This is best Borby.
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>>55285915
>that name

still not as great as pic related tho.
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>>55285795
Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient with Darretti being a close second.
Love me some artifact shenanigans.
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>>55285915
>Snake Umbra+Abundance
Delicious!
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>>55285937
Get on my level.
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>>55285485
>friend runs bant lifegain commander deck
>all his effects force him to gain life on his upkeep and whenever a white spell is cast
>mfw tainted remedy
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>>55285795
my nigga
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>>55285795
This guy.
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>>55285937
>That Name
Someone was completly drunk while translating this.
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>>55285961
>Jin "The Chin" Jan, Augur Man
Good taste.
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I created a new deck recently, but stupid me inverted the formula I normally use to determine the starting mana base. I normally use 2 mana stones = 1 land, but went all moron with 1 mana stone = 2 land.
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>>55285951
>tfw the only pic I could find had a fucking watermark
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>>55285998
>>55285951
You are like little babby
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>>55285951
I still can't help but laugh at Wurm-artifactcreaturegamepiece.
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>>55286009
hola
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>>55285998
Why not "Acht einhalb Schwänze"?
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>>55286019
"pirexianos"
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>>55285672

Not yet, but soon! Then I will have three Naya decks.

>>55285804

That's hilarious and I love it, but no.
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>>55286076
Gahiji Fight Club
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>>55286013
That's fucking nothing, the Theros god have some fucked up type lines in german.
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>>55286019
Ándale
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>>55286237
have you seen sen triplets?
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Is Omnath considered a "degenerate" commander?
I'd like to build a deck that included green, since it's the one color I've never used for my decks, but the ones I was considering have really obvious and easy infinite combos, like Animar, and since I know myself I know that I would end up taking that route while building the deck, sooner or later
So I was looking for more more casual commanders and Omnath seems cool. Not weak, with pretty flavorful effects, but without obvious automatic wincons

Is there a powerful combo I'm missing or Omnath is the commander I was looking for?
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>>55285993
thanks for sharing
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>>55286417
>7 mana
>degenerate
He's strong if he manages to stick.
Otherwise just path him before a board wipe and he does nothing.

Grull isn't the best colors for protecting your creatures, he's way better off as a secret commander in a Naya or Gay Kings deck.
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>>55286417
RG Omnath is definitely my favorite of my EDH decks.
He can be very casual but also has room for tuning.
This is my Omnath deck, it has seen many changes over the last year or so and I'm pretty proud of it
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/27-08-17-angry-omnath/
Would recommend
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/vroom-vroom-ramos/

Posted in last thread but looking for more suggestions. Do the Fuse cards always count as each color listed or only if both are played?
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>>55286417
No he definitely isn't degenerate.
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>>55286417
He's only degenerate if he's just secretly scapeshift in response.
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I want to share a story that happened a couple of weeks ago:

>be me
>been playing since 00's during high school
>always casualfag
>always going to pre-re with friends
>time passes
>everyone starts working and is super busy
>every once in a while we get together to play
>rise of EDH
>I make a couple of decks
>try to get my friends to play the format
>no ones wants it
>fug
>too asperger to go to a LGS commander night
>weeks and month passes until I finally get the courage to go
>get completely reck by tron and combo fags
>I'm not a bad player, I just suck at deckbuilding
>learned my lesson of why the deck failed so bad
>it's the sum of not playing with fucking expensive cards (gaea's cradle and the like) and almost everyone at the store was a tryhard but mostly my deck was too casual
>even one guy openly says "i just come here to win and I just did it" casually talking to everyone
>I didn't get frustrated, I even get why I lose and I'm not even mad about it, it's just the general mindset of going to combo as fast as possible
>I had the romanticize idea of EDH of "politics, holding back, friendship, having a good time, spellsling, fucked up interactions"
>nope, just combo on turn 3
>It shock me how competitive an allegely casual format can get

Should I go to another store? Should I keep trying to convince my friends to play EDH? I'm no spike and I'm against expending ridiculous sums of money in one card, I'm in the wrong?
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>>55286165
>tfw wotc will never print a card with art like this ever again

IT'S OLD GRANNIES, FAT CHICKS, AND MASCULINE WOMEN IN BULKY ARMOR FROM HERE ON OUT, BOYS.
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>>55286417
He's strong but not broken, like, you can't do shit against shit like Hermit Druid but in a normal playgroup he pulls some wonderful crap. Wish there was a Jund lands.dec general.
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>>55286603
EDH requires the right playgroup. Nothing wrong with any playstyle until you start imposing it on others. You are well within your rights to simply not play at a shop that is overtly competitive.

I don't think you'll have much luck convincing friends. Try other shops, look at meetups in town, shop around. You can also see if there's any peeps also playing more lax EDH.
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>>55286633
I want either a jund lands general or a jund -1 counters commander.
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>>55286630
I get that we just came from a desert plane so bikinis weren't in season, but there's plenty of cheesecake in the last couple of sets and will be in this set.
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>>55286630
Vampires continue to be sexy without even needing to show skin.
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>>55286630
maybe one day there'll be enough of that to play screaming women tribal.

also,
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IMO the standard of cheesecake should be Burning-Tree Emissary.
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>>55286761
I wish she looked more fucked up. It is like people who prefer the new Bloodbraid Elf. Like, fuck, can my savages look less pristine please? Not a feather out of place? Fuck this.
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>>55286791
>he didn't read the flavor text
It's an intentional look. Here's some good mussed Gruul cheesecake. Radha 2.0 PLEASE
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>>55286663
>that horrendous sneering manface
>cheesecake
Nope
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>>55286791
These are the ones the Gruul send into the main parts of the city when they have to deal with the other guilds in civil discussion. The Azorious probably won't admit anyone more mussed up than that.
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>>55286868
Fuck off
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In you go into Ruric Punisher or just red punisher stuff in general.
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>>55286904
My friend plays Karlov Soul Sisters. He's gonna HATE this.
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>>55286904
>Ferocidon
>Angersaurus
>Meanadactyl
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>>55286630
Don't you have a spoiler thread to shit up?
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>got a chronicles concordant crossroads and pic related for a total of 20€

some cards on the reserved list are pretty.. interesting.
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>>55286831
>>55286884
I knew someone was gonna bring that up. It is a complete retcon of the original Gruul, which was much more one dimensional. And even still, there's a difference between dignified shaman and runway model. I don't hate the art, but you get my nitpicking.

Radha is by far the sexiest magic card. I'm not even kidding. I might make her a deck and claim it is because of how efficient she is, but it is secretly due to a gross lust towards cardboard.
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>>55286904
I'll run it in Chandra. Fun with Embermaw Hellion and similar.
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>>55286921
At least he's in the best colors for getting rid of it each time it rears its feathery head.
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>>55287017
>using Radha to pump herself with Kessig Woof Run so she can fuck people harder.
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>>55286603

There's a reason why I take a twenty minute one way detour to play Commander at one scene instead of going to the two that are about a five minute detour total both ways.

Incredibly competitive Commander is the worst format. Commander where the players aim to play is one of the best.
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>>55285937
>that fucking name and image
Perfect. Really really perfect.
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>>55287089
>tfw Radha will never fuck you with her foot long futa cock
Why live.
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>>55287321
CUTE
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>>55287321
>Perfect for a pirate deck
>Doesn't have the colors for a pirate deck

Fuck it
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>>55287349
>oh my god the words pirate are on this card
>that means it's perfect for pirate tribal
God I fucking hate pushed tribes
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>>55285613
You can but shouldn't. Buy a prerelease pack online if that is your plan. Its no fun for anyone to get a round one bye because someone dropped
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>>55287349
>planeswalker spits out on-tribal tokens that benefit from board buffs
>FUCKING PUSHED TRIBES WHY ISNT KITHKIN PUSHED REEEEEE
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Hey, i want people to not play magic while i do, and i want them to hate me but i also want to have the power to withstand a focus of 3 people. What commander do i run? I was thinking about the azorious fun police himself but don't know much about stax
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>>55287349
OG Vraska makes assassin tokens. Is she in Assassin tribal? Go fuck yourself.
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>>55287432
>I want people to not play magic while I do

easy, go into a supermarket or something and start playing magic against yourself.
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First Iconic master cards are spiled, pretty lame so far.
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>>55287448
Are there assassin lords? Go fuck yourself
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>>55287472
>horizon canopy
>lame

maybe it will finally drop below savannah, pricewise.
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More fodder for Eddie
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>>55287321
So that's a Rare symbol, right?
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>>55287513
No, its mythic, just bad lighting
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>>55287513
> planeswalker
>rare
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>>55285343
>>55285438
I'm so GODDAMNED EXCITED to make yung thug indestructible / beefier
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>>55287501
Yeah, but no thanks.
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>>55287321
>can't be your commander
lame
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>>55287579
No, but it can come down with doubling season to put your opponent at 1 right away.
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Even if the art is cool, STOP REPRINTING THIS FUCK AND GIVE US THE OTHER DRAGONS!
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>iconic masters
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>>55287652
>Ironic masters
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REPRINT ALERT
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The art is pretty good
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>>55287651
YOU'LL PLAY RYUSEI AND YOU'LL LIKE IT

for real tho, why aren't they reprinting kokusho? oh well, maybe he will be in this set too.
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hey
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>>55287665
Is that only a rare?
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>>55287651
Windmill slam of a draft card though.

>>55287665
Yes!

>>55287675
YES!

>>55287685
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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KOKUSHO IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!

Rare is pretty nice
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>>55287685
do you hear it?

there's been an investering
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>>55287693
>>55287685
>>55287675
>>55287665
>>55287651
MY DICK
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>>55287665
>>55287652
>>55287651
Why the fuck isn't all MtG art this good
Wizards you faggots stop giving work to all the shitty artists and sjws already.

Like really, they commission a ton of good stuff for shit like the expedition lands, kaladesh inventions and ahmonket invocations or whatever and then give us utter pisswank for the rest of the cards people actually have a chance at owning.
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>>55287713
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>>55287730
>Flash, Haste, Double Strike
H-HAIYAI
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>>55287730
She is a speedster
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>>55287321
Holy hell she's good. 6cc for 6 loyalty and a +2 that protects her.
Preordering for $20, but no doubt she'll go up.

Consider my dick rock hard.
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>>55287685
uh wizards?
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>>55287770
Or doubling season + set someone to 1.
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>>55287770
>that
>good
Going to laugh my ass off when I kill it for 3 mana and continue to beat your face is since you paid 6 mana for a 2/2
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>>55287805
Yes. Let me just tap out for Vraska on turn 6 and expect my 2/2 pirate to protect her. I am just as retarded as you are, anon.
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>>55287791
It's a reprint from back when Mana Burn existed. It was never a real drawback, but it was at least theoretically one.
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>>55287829
>living any longer than turn 6
>casting 6 drops uncontested
>in the RDW and Temur Energy format
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>>55287685
what the fuck
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>>55287685
dick status:
[_]not muh
[X]muh
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>>55286893
>black
>cheesecake
Next you'll tell me Samut was hot
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>>55287321
Sheldon will probably clock her with the banhammer like every other "Life to one" card
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>>55287957
More setup than Master of Cruelties who isn't banned.
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>>55287957
Maybe he should get his dick out of his ass and just ban Doubling Season
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>>55287957
I'd only be reasonably afraid of that in Atraxa. Sheldor is dumb.
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>>55287869
>edh general
kys yourself
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>>55287693
>>55287675
>>55287651
Yosei where? Wish Jugan wasn't utter shit.
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>>55287456
I am going to lock people out of the game and you cant stop me
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>tfw you realize the reason that the kamigawa dragons are in iconic masters is because "we want the chinese audience"
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>>55287990
Don't worry nignog, he's comin'. They just have to make him appropriately white and glorious
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>>55287957
>like every other "Life to one"

You mean literally just Worldfire?
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>>55287969
Nigga I just bought one don't say things like this
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>>55287990
He's on mythicspoiler.

I run Jugan in monogreen. Nice to have a flyer and he triggers Spirit craft. He cantrips in my deck, so.
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>>55287980
>>edh general
Oh fuck
My fault for having spoiler thread and EDH general open at the same time I guess, my apologies.
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>>55287995
>Print shiny new 5 color Dragon EDH deck
>Immediately follow with a super expensive set full of Dragons
Not hard to put the two together, i'm betting Bolas will be in this too.
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>>55287995
everything is going that way
all these blockbuster movies with chinese funding,
overwatch and heroes of the storm with the Chinese New Year themed costumes
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>>55287990
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>>55287990
>>55287996
http://mythicspoiler.com/ima/
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>>55288018
>bolas with his from the vault art

Yes please.
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>>55288019
>It's another Hollywood movie where the plot takes them to China
Not hard to see why considering Chinese eat up shit movies like crazy.
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>>55287994
yeah boi, now i need help on how to do that efficiently and i'm not convinced by the lists i see in the internet
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>>55288014
I mean, it's still shit, but that's what we enjoy here.
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>>55288011
Yeah, but you're running Reki, I have to satisfy myself with Hornet Queen in Azusa.
>>55288021
>>55288025
He's a really pretty boy.
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looks pretty good
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>>55287990
>>55288011
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>>55288057
>it explodes
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>>55288065
Holy shit I just noticed this
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>>55288057
ALLAHU ACKBAR
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>>55287685

It's official: R&D was murdered!

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/37916594789/if-you-got-hit-by-a-bus-would-mana-drain-get
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>>55288087
You thought Chaos Orb was good? Chaos Confetti who? Check out this bitch
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>>55288064
Yeah, pretty sick looking. Complete redesign of the original art, so I don't know how to feel, but Jugan's was always the worst art of the bunch.

>>55288051
Yeah, I can see how that's different. Jugan also has some space in my heart because I had a Dromoka, the Eternal list. Changelings only do so much.
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>>55287321
Meh. At least it's better than the original vraska. It's good to see she pursued better dreams after the Ravnica fiasco.
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>>55285795
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>>55288098
Why were they against reprinting Mana Drain anyway?

Also I heard it wasn't murder but a ritual sacrifice so that they could finally destroy the vile demonic pact forged aeons ago known only as "The Reserved List".
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>>55288098
>R&D is dead
Finally.
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>>55288098
It just says they were hit by a bus, not struck and killed. It also fails to specify a regulation bus; marketing wanted their mana drain reprint to sell packs and slapped every member of R&D with a hotwheels bus or something.

That said a disturbed, vengeful blue player makes the better story.
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>>55287501
Why the fuck would they release a strictly inferior version of an already existing card? I know Wotc gets lazy sometimes but come the fuck on...
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>>55288194
>Why were they against reprinting Mana Drain anyway?
Because back in the day, after Legends went to print they sort of realized how nuts a Counterspell+ with a fairly hefty + was, making it one of the earliest mistakes they actually acknowledged.
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>>55288228
Because it occupies a different rarity slot. That's it. That's all.
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>>55288228
>Why the fuck would they release a strictly inferior version of an already existing card?
For limited, mostly. Dude's going to do work for vamp drafters.

I'm also not too sad that they seem to be trying to dial back some of the power creep.
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>>55288230
Well that's fair but still no excuse to not jam it in a supplementary product.
The next masters set better fucking be "Reserved Masters".
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>>55288194
Supplemental sets didn't exist when that post was made.
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>>55288248
Yeah because Malakir Blood Witch is a prime example of power creep, right?
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>>55288300
>pro white op op

I also think it was just a general statement by anon. I agree to an extent. I just wish "reeling it back" wasn't "let's go back to shitty, old, slow, and boring play styles"
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>>55288300
She was pro white because of baneslayer and was played in standard. She would ruin Limited at uncommon.
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>>55288323
>muh limited
Reminder that "Muh limited" is a design copout for making underwhelming pack filler cards and forcing purposefully overdesigned money cards to height rarity. Case in point: Samut. Overdesigned on purpose because "She's a speedster!" and put at mythic to try sell packs with the excuse "muh limited".
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>>55288373
l-limited's fun, anon
d-don't h-hate

mythic rarity was a mistake only four levels of rarity is the real mistake
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>>55287685
>Enthusiasm is no match for preparation.
Timmys BTFO.
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>>55288373
I kind of agree with you, but I certainly woudnt call Samut overdesigned. They just slapped a bunch of keywords and a boring ability and called it a day. I swear, the lazyness of wotc's designs is getting rage inducing.
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>>55288657
"She's a speedster!" being Maro's reasoning for giving her a bunch of "fast" themed abilities is extremely fucking lazy and horrible.
I guess they HAD to make her mythic, so they slapped on a ton of garbage. Untap another creature? I guess that's fast?
She's a good card, of course, but she's an eyesore for multiple reasons.
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>>55288323
Limited was best when it wasn't the focus. Focusing on limited makes for boring cards, harming every format.
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>>55288721
They seem to have made two cards at once and stitched them together.

One is an aggro card that you cast immediately and attack with.
The other is a trick card you flash in and use to play around with Tap abilities or Extert.

It looks really schizophrenic when you see it all on the same card.
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>>55288861
To my understanding, and from the article regarding her, https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/amonkhet-talking-part-3-2017-05-08, all the team did was stitch together what they believed were evergreen abilities that gave a fast vibe

It is lazy, and I don't know why they were so complacent with it.
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>RARE
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>>55289007
>90~150$
Jesus Christ
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>>55289007
>ejaculates
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>>55287693
Is this going to lower the price of old kukusho prints? Wondering if i should sell mine now
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>>55288373
Underwhelming pack filler was around since before Limited. Limited found a place for these cards outside of sixty card casual.
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>>55288057
LMAAAAOOO
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Fug I just bought a Serra Ascendant this week for 15$
Now it's gonna go the way of Venser and become a 3$ rare
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Everytime I click on refresh on magicspoiler my dick gets harder
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>reprint it as rare in the dragon deck
>reprint it as uncommon just a few sets later

is bladewing the jace/gideon of the dragons or something? sweet art tho
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>>55289140
Commander usually uses the highest level printing. Worm Harvest was uncommon in one of the masters sets, but back to rare in Commander.
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>>55289099
But nice new art on the iconic one
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>>55289123
I'm at work. I can't keep leaving cumwads on the underside of my desk anymore
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>>55289140
>>55289154
The Masters sets have pushed rarities because they're meant to be the ridiculous powerlevel sets with value worth their $10 tag.

MM2 and EMA somewhat failed to deliver, but the original Modern Masters and MM3 were good and Iconic seems real fucking good.
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Do we have confirmed Praetor reprints?
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>>55289211
Yes, all of them
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What is that card that as soon as you see on the table you convince everyone else to kill the owner?

Pic related is just disgusting to play against.
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>>55289237
Surprisingly many. I think I abuse politics too much. But whatever works. Gitrog wins too many of our games.
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Lotus Cobra at uncommon
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fuck yes, i want this in foil
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>>55289262
>Foil stamp
>Uncommon
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>>55289262
Sorry, my bad. It's reported as Rare. Looks uncommon by picture, and the rarity letter is too warped for me to read.
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>>55289262
Never
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>>55289272
Yeah, I'm an idiot.
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>Bladewing at uncommon
o i am laffin

Also, I'm glad he doesn't look like Frampt anymore.
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Fucking finally.
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>>55289258

>I think I abuse politics too much

>mfw you can win any commander game just by fucking with people's heads and making them kill each other while you watch in silence preparing for the final assault
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>>55289369
and just as you're about to some fucker slits your throat. :^)
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>>55289342
I've found too many people forget that his pump is fucking teamwide, killed more than couple of people because they don't read the card right.
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>>55286417
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/prototype-vengeance-of-zendikar/

JOIN US

>>55286493
BROTHER
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>>55289369
I'm like never silent. I just tell people to go after each other. And if someone tries to point out what I'm doing, if I am actually ahead, I say "go for it, I guess I am the biggest threat" or "if you really think my X and Y are worse than his Z, go for it".

People begin to trust your threat assessment. Once people trust your threat assessment, you can effectively play control using other players. They frequently don't mind you winning either, since you "helped" them. It is all kinds of weird when thought about explicitly.
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>>55289456

Yeah every time I do this I just tell everyone to kill the Breya player because he's about to get the combo.
Win the game of magic, but lose a friend.
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Sanguine bond at uncommon wtf
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>>55289550
I have a regular play group of 4, who all play higher power decks than me. So, they know by now. Only one gets salty. It usually works with randoms too, but I'm not popular there.

Randoms are weird. Especially casual ones. I had a Fumiko the Lowblood in play and an elves player swung at me, killing all his dudes, not dealing a single point of damage to me or a single trade despite other opponents being open. That guy ended up winning, by the way.
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Austere Command! This set is commander heaven.
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>>55289636
That's not the expensive one.
Call me back when someone spots an Exquisite Blood.
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>>55289723
Exquisite isn't expensive. It was just printed. Isn't it?
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>>55289745
It is 12-15$. It was just printed about 5 years ago.
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>>55289745
Sanguine was the one just reprinted.
Again.
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>>55289758
I traded a foil Bond to a friend for his Blood/Bond combo deck, and I feel like a horrid fool. Not just because it's the expensive one, but because that goofy little combination is something my playgroup regularly dreads.
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>>55289758
>>55289770
It's also the one with three creatures with an analogous effect.
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>only 3 mythics that aren't Modern-legal
It really is just Modern Masters 2017 + Mana Drain
Random expensive cards like lands and Mishra's Baible from Modern are not "iconic". Demonic Tutor at mythic rare should have been a given.
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>>55289908
the boxes are gonna be $400 aren't they?
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>>55289946
Probably 200$ just like MM17
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>Curse of Predation at rare
This is a very mean meme from wotc. Pay 10$ for a pack and get a 10 cent rare.
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>>55289908
Port is gonna be a big deal.
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>>55289994

Why doesn't wotc just print good cards in sets like these? Like ALL GOOD CARDS

crashing the secondary market with no survivors
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>>55289908
>Necropotence
>It's probably gonna have the shitty FTV art rather than the Skull.
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UNCOMMON
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>>55290078
Nuh uh. The whole future sight cycle is in as rares.
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>>55289994
I haven't felt so much like WotC was handing out intentional whammies since Squire was timeshifted.
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>>55290078
>Rare stamp
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>>55290113
fuck, i need to notice shit like that
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>>55290078
Made the same mistake I did with Lotus Cobra, anon
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I'm gonna open this as a foil
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>>55290154

the art looks like a pokemon card with shitty 3d
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>>55290180
>Shitting on John fucking Avon
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>>55290293

John Avon is just what trollface is to memes but for magic illustrators
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I played a bit of Commander a few years ago with the premade Oloro deck, looking to get back into it. Is it acceptable to ask for Commander advice here? I'm trying to find a commander which is big on comboing with the rest of the deck, ideally with a cmc of 2-5, that could make normally meh cards more viable (would be nice if this was somewhat budget). In general, I'm going for something weird, not necessarily good (my group is super casual).
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Sometimes, you just gotta appreciate utility.
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>>55290495
This is among the best places to ask

Did you take time to read the OP?
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>>55290516
I did. I read through the full rules/banlist on mtgcommander, I already had a tappedout account and that's where I intend to do my building/testing, and I've been browsing edhrec and gatherer for commander ideas.
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>>55290511
Would've been neat to see stuff like this in Uncommon instead.
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>>55290495
>>55290516
Right now Doran is the one I like most, due to the way he causes re-evaluation of creatures. However, my primary non-EDH deck has been a Defender Tribal for years, and I might want to try something different than another army of walls.
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>>55290495
>>55290529
>>55290549
The commander you're looking for is Ghave fungus tribal.
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I like it when the old Choose X cards get the new list format.
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JIN
JAN
MFN
AUGUR
MAN
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>>55290596
>no watermark

this always triggers my autism
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>>55290626
Just means the original set of praetors will remain superior
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>>55290626
>intentionally triggers you more
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>>55290571
Thanks for the recommendation, he looks pretty sweet! I'll see what I can whip up with him.
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>>55290529
>>55290495

Try this, use some UR commander
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The lost Soul Sister finally gets her first reprint!
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>>55290641
>tfw augustin got to keep his
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>>55290539
>Rune-Scarred Demon
>Uncommon

Do you want literally everyone to run black in draft?
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>>55290643
Stay away from the following cards. Ashnod's Altar, Doubling Season, Primal Vigor, Winding Constrictor, Corsepjack Menace, Parallel Lives, and Anointed Procession. They make it absurdly easy to go infinite in Ghave, and that doesn't seem to be what you're looking for.
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>>55290674
Limited was a mistake
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>>55290574
Props to this artist for referencing the original Lorwyn art and keeping the same shapes.
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It was fated to happen soon enough, I guess.
>fetch the tax cat
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I wish more of these reprints in Iconic Masters had no flavor text and instead had their body text centered
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>Super Sperg blue player at my LGS wants Teferi's Protection and Vexing Shusher banned from use in Commander in the store
>Gets assblasted and storms out of the store when no one agrees with him

Why does blue attract such autists?
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>they chose to reprint the fugly art
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>>55290728
because island is the best card ever printed, so how could it lose
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>>55290707
I wish the Invocation did this since I have it and run it in one of my decks.
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>>55290683
Thanks! I recognize about half of those already, and I agree with your assessment. Due to the casual nature of my group, I'd rather not have conditions for getting ludicrously powerful. They also would make my budget goal somewhat more difficult.
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>>55290728
>U attracts aspergers
>R and G attract literal retards
>W attracts fags
>B attracts schizophrenics
Prove me wrong
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>>55290774
What does this mean for five-color players?
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>>55290774
>tfw mostly play B/W

o..oh..
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>>55290745

>talking shit about Karl Kopinski

Don't say this on /ic/ or they'd slaughter you
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>>55290774
>I fall into retard
>over aspies, fags and schizos
Best timeline?
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>>55290774
R attracts the kinds of retards who think they're smart
G attracts the unbridled and openly retarded
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>>55290774
>>W attracts fags

but anon it's not gay if he's cute
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>>55290795
I shall heed the word of Serious Sitting Cat
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>>55290665
Yeah, Modern Masters 1 had watermarks and none of the others.
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>>55290800
>gruul players
>openly retarded folk who think they're smart
I can live with that.
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>>55284983

SNEK
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"Waifufags! Waifufags! Come out of the safety of your holes!"
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>>55290774
I play colorless,
>emotionally uninvolved, I feel nothing from praise or criticism,
>disinterested in others
>read a lot
>barely even play magic anymore.
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>>55290774
>Naya
>Gay Retards

Sounds about right
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>>55290898
Sounds like you're secretly all colors with Devoid
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>>55290903
made me laugh
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>>55290711
How much will this effect the invocation?
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>>55290898
So Colorless attracts edgelords?
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>>55290929
It wont affect it at all because it's a lottery card.
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>>55290929
I doubt it will shift the price all that much.
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>>55290898
>intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor
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>>55290935
Or people who just like playing with their wallet on the table.
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>>55290929
People who want the Invocation don't want it because they just want a Consecrated Sphinx they also want it because it's rare and foil.

It's why the Expedition Strip Mine is $50+ while you can get a normal one for $6.
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>>55290995
gotta have that wicked artwork
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>>55291029
The art looks nice but really I just enjoy it more because it's more universal than a phrexian creature, so I don't feel like my themes are clashing
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>>55290935
pretty much. they have to go an extra mile to be special and original
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>>55289140
>>55289342
Fucking beautiful. Seb McKinnon is just the best when it comes to gothic art, I swear.
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FUCK
SHE'S BACK BOYS
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>>55291052
It's also got a sick feather mane+beard combo and chiseled chest.
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>>55291154
Not exactly a face to write home about, though.

>>55291143
Thank god I didn't buy one yet.

Too bad I just bought a Serra's Ascendant like a week ago
>>
Really hoping the prices of everything drop by at least 5~10$, but if I know how this shit works shit's just gonna go up across the board.
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>>55290774
>tfw aspergers ridden retard faggot
murrican control is best
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>>55291181
Mythics won't drop too far since they're still mythics.
I'd prefer the original printing for things like Praetors for a set symbol and watermark that matched.

Would much rather have this printing of Archangel of Thune because core set symbols past Tenth edition are a real disappointment.
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>>55291181
Nah. It doesn't do that. Masters didn't.
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My local shop has Commander's Anthology at MSRP, I assume because it's shit?

Normally boxed products like this end up overpriced.
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>>55290935
Instead of the last two I should have just put barely do any social activities or leave my room besides to got to work, pay bills, cook, or the occasional commander night every 1-2 months.
>>55290986
No, I'm a really boring person, I'm not any of those three things.


>>55290903
I'm disapointed with how long it took me to get this, but that's a pretty nice burn anon.
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Wew lad, Channel reprinted.
https://twitter.com/Goldsprocket/status/906208942749097984
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>>55291181
No, no, the cards themselves don't go up, but cards in decks related to them do. Someone gets a single Aether Vial and thinks "Hey, I could get into Eldrazi and Taxes", and suddenly all the Eldrazi and Tax cards shoot up $5-$10.
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>>55291285
>banned everywhere
Why bother?
Like yeah, Channel + Fireball is gonna be hella fun to draft but afterwards you have a really neat card you can do nothing with.
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>>55291304
>tfw completely left the modern madness behind and only focus on edh now

I'm fucking glad because in this format I only need to buy one-offs of the expensive stuff and not playsets.
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>>55291336
Yeah, but it's neat to have if one day you win the lottery and get into vintage.
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>>55291336
I mean it's called iconic masters afterall.
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>>55291336
Cube.
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>>55291285
>https://twitter.com/Goldsprocket/status/906208942749097984
>But... no Black Lotus :(

Why do people keep thinking they'll reprint the P9? Is it just dumb idiot teens and 20 somethings?
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>>55291377
black lotuses are the iconic masters lottery cards
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>>55290774
>mostly play Mardu
>Schizophrenic Gay Retard
At least I'm not an autist
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>>55290745
>They chose to reprint fucking Malfegor
Of all the things that needed a reprint...
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>>55291377
Black Lotus is THE iconic card. Fucking Eternal Masters was more Iconic than this set.
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>>55291620
>Black Lotus is THE iconic card.

Don't mean shit. They're not gonna reprint such a card in a set because prices for boxes would go through the roof and people would learn real fast why it's a bad idea to reprint the power nine.

Had they reprinted them years ago we wouldn't be in this position but now we're in a state where there's no winning move and there's no way to please anyone except a few lucky people. It's the exact problem with the NES Classic Mini where a few people got them but the rest went to scalpers and at that point you're better off buying an original.
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Trying to build Licia, what do?

Wide or tall? More Lifegain or more Voltron?
Is there even any point in playing her over Karlov or Zurgo other than waifu value?
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>>55291723
>Trying to build Licia, what do?
Pick another general. She is so subpar no matter what you try to do with her another general could do it in a cooler, better way.
>>
Could a Commander style format work with other TCGs?

I remember there was an arc in Yu-Gi-Oh! that was centered around a "format" that was basically commander with a monster you could play at anytime but if it died you lost the game.
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>>55289908
It's not all confirmed. Haven't seen 3 of those anywhere.
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>>55291723
Make sure your playgroup isn't too competitive and let the jank flow through you.
Pure lifegain cards are typically awful but if it has as much potential as Dega Sanctuary then it's almost worth running
Lifegain chumps to curve out to turn 5.
Brave the Sands and other vigilance and haste effects like Exava to make sure your Licia actually does something.
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>>55291620
Black Lotus will not be reprinted but you're correct that Eternal Masters was much more iconic than this Modern Masters 4 faggotry with token Mana Drain and Channel.
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>>55291821
They're all on magicspoiler.
Not sure which ones you haven't seen yet.
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>>55291821
Which ones? Be realistic anon, hundreds if not thousands of packs were opened today and we know the mythics + rares.
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>c17 + reprint c17 to meet demand
>ixlan
>iconic masters

hot damn. what do i brew with all this?
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>>55292088
Speaking of Eternal Masters I had no idea it destroyed the value of Wasteland

Serves any faggot sitting on them right for investing in non-reserve list cards.
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>>55290728
just call him a nerd, is he mono blue?
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>>55290774
>Grixis meme lord
>retard asperger schizo
n-no
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>>55292241
U/G
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Alright so I'm going to build one of two decks

1) Admiral Beckett Brass with tons of extra turns and stuff to give my pirates evasion, get in fast and early with cheap agro pirates to lock down people's board states by stealing shit.

2) Akiri + Whoever with tons of clues, mana rocks and treasure, and mass land destruction

Which sounds more fun?

>BRYANNNNN
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>>55290774
>Naya
>Mono-Black
>Mono-Blue
>Modern deck is colorless
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>Pirate commander is grixis
>Pirate planeswalker is golgari

Fuck this game
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>>55292310
Anon i believe you are not a human being
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>>55290293
>Avon
>being relevant at current year
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Fetch me some good cards of the meme flavour for mah boi Grenzo
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>>55292467
Please leave.
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>>55292502
Make me
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>>55292467
What >>55292502 said
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>>55292467
what the fuck do you mean by that
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>>55292467
goblin rabblemaster
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>>55292628
He probably wants justification for running chaos.
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>>55292444
UNSTABLE
FULL
ART
BASICS
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>>55287115

My problem with this mindset is that people who say this complain when they lose that you're a tryhard. my decks are objectively suboptimal but if I win I'm still a tryhard
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>>55292702
>not full text basics
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>>55287685
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/37916594789/if-you-got-hit-by-a-bus-would-mana-drain-get

R&D is dead. Press F to pay respect
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PLAINS?
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>>55286603
I know >>55286645 said you might not have luck convincing friends to play EDH, but how they are is likely entirely how I was before I played myself.

The tryhard community that plagues the idea of it pushed me away, but when I actually made a deck for myself, and started looking into these threads, I got more and more love for the format.

My friends were against it as well until they built their own decks how they wanted, and played a few very gentle and inviting matches. They opened up to it, and now they've been brewing and figuring out fun shenanigans for months.

Maybe I'm in a best case miracle situation, but I have hope for you, anon. Good luck.
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>>55292795
I don't believe you
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what's a good online source for vintage-era basic lands?
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>>55292795
this fucking land text border, dont like it
otherwise good cards
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>>55292795
new un lands are meh compared to the past 2 cycles.
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>>55292795
Glad i odered zendikar lands because tis shit looks like it could be done in 4 microseconds on mspaint
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>>55292927
>>55292927
>>55292927
>>55292927
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>>55292103
>>55292091
Necropotence and Kiki are nowhere to be found, prove me wrong.
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>>55291336

That's what cube is for numbnuts
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>>55293002

They're on the magicspoiler list, so I'm led to believe they're there.

They usually don't post shit up for no reason.
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