/aosg/ Age of Sigmar General

>>55267363
Why a new thread now? The old one ain't even auto saging yet

>>55267363
Is this official art?

>>55267443
Silver Tower.

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Dorf anon here with a dilemma, really debating what mystical item would work better since the one or the other is situational in games, either the ancestral pick or the grudge rune. I've used the ancestral pick in 2 games which lets me take a character and unit within 3" and appear 9" away from enemies with ironbreakers and iron Drakes and I can safely say that that move has won me both games. I've looked at the grudge rune which lets you pick a unit on the board and all is it's in your army (including non disposessed) gets rerolls to hit and wound on that unit until it is slain which seems amazing. It's hard to pick between the two considering the grudgebound warthrong formation to get both is very difficult to achive with flexibility... thoughts on which item to go for?

>>55267492
Personally, I'd say Grudge Rune is the better pick since it will increase the damage output against what you think is the going to give you the most trouble in the opponent's army. Of course there is the problem that you could pick the wrong unit to prioritize but let's face it, you run that same issue with the Ancestral Pick, just that you can potentially position yourself wrong trying to fall back or lay a trap.

Ultimately it falls on which one fits your playstyle better. Run a game or two with the Rune. If you feel the Pick did you better afterwards, there you go my dude

>>55267492
Grudge rune only works for the hero that has it mate. It doesn't affect the whole army.

>>55267620
Oh knowing this now I retract the entirety of >>55267594 and say go Pick the whole way

>>55267363
The one good bit of Age of Sigmar related art.

Leverage it every chance you get.

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>>55267741

I'd love to see some AoS art in the old black and white drawing style.

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A huge box?

From GW?

FOR ME?

>>55267823
>Japanese /tg/ anon
I didn't know you existed for real.

Is the hobby different over there?
I feel like it should be weirder somehow.

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>MFW still no fucking elves

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>>55267848

We swap Stormcast heads with cute grill's heads

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>>55267854
>mfw compendium battalions haven't been replaced yet

>>55267620
Damn oh well that narrows my choice down to the pick then!

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>>55267858
Not weird enough.
I'm not amused.

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>>55267741
Not really 'AoS' era art but some of the newer 8th art really fits the AoS style, like the weird celestial backgrounds and effects... like pic related

Is Nagash Viable now he's 800points?

>>55267823
C'mon, it's been 20 minutes.
We are waiting.

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>>55267910

Mistakes were made, but this was the content.
Basically a very expensive starter kit.
I feel like I'm going to get insulted lots because of the Citadel™ Palette™ Pads™®, and you have every reason to insult me.
Also, the project box is seriously of terrible quality.
But I'm painting minis for the first time and having fun.

wait a second, WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THE AURIC GOLD ARMOR IN THE STORMCAST ETERNAL PAINT BUNDLE?
Now I have to place another order...

>>55268008
How much did that cost you Anon?

>>55268029

You don't want to know

>>55268008
Did you buy a primer for your models?

>>55268034

Yes, Chaos Black, I forgot to include it in the pic

>>55268051
Alright, just wanted to double check. How is the player base in the area?

>>55268057

Non existent.
Honestly, I just want to paint minis, and then I'll see if I can hook up a few friends on the game by making them play the starter box with me. Jap like minis a lot, just not this kind. Too macho for them, it scares them.
I don't even like Stormcast Eternals, but I like Chaos. I may expand the Khorne Army in the starter set later on.

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>>55268074
I hope you are having fun Anon, welcome to the hobby.

Dawi question.

Planning 3x Irondrakes running with 2xLongbeards,1xHammerers.
+20 Ironbreakers. I could run the Ironbreakers as longbeards or hammerers too, would that be better? Great weapons or shields on longbeards?

Other units available are 1-2 Wardenkings, 1-2 Runelords, up to 2 cannons/organ guns, 1 Cogsmith, 1 gyrocopter, 1 unbuilt copter/bomber.

>>55268121
Why would you ever proxy Ironbreakers as anything else? They are the tits!
Greataxes *and* shields on Longbeards, the warscroll explicitly allows that.

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>>55268121
Hello fellow dorf anon!
I recommend to take hammerers in a block of at least 20 they are dick kickers in combat when buffed with runelords extra rend, longbeards rerolls of 1 to wound, grudge and the warden King grudge.
Also take just 20 drakes, they are quite exe and you need to take more other units... that's all you need especially if you take the ancestral pick.
Take an extra runelord and give him the pick with whichever unit you want to tunnel because that extra rend is deadly with an alpha strike of iron Drakes, or the 6+ ward with a screen of 20-30 ironbreakers to sit on objectives
I've had succes with even taking an extra king so I can pop the ancestral grudge command ability twice with the longbeards ability which is quite nice, you can even try using him with the pick of you really wanted to...
With allies I would recommend a big monster to mix it up and as a distraction, like a magmadroth with a runesmiter to tunnel him in or my choice is a steam tank which I customised with dwarf bling, even a gunhauler with an escort of 2 copters or bombers sounds like fun as well...
Hope this advice helps in any way!

>>55268225
>>55268329

Cheers bruvbeards.

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>>55268099

First attempt at painting a mini: Liberator.
The Parkinson isn't helping. I also have to wait until I get delivered the Auric Gold Armor before I can start layering the gold. I can still see some gold under the grey, I'll apply another layer tomorrow.

>>55268051
Why not the gold primer?

>>55268496

Oh, that makes sense.
So basically I can use again the Retributor Armor Gold to layer the shaded base.
Thanks anon

>>55268389
For a cool effect onto the hammer, apply some drakenhof nightshade onto it. It will make it look like lightning is pouring through it

>>55268008
>Also, the project box is seriously of terrible quality.
I like it

What's wrong with it?

Heya all hotelier anon here to pester all again.

Looking at kharadron as i love the aesthetic.

Wrote myself a 2k list which includes most of the range (apart from the gunhaulers...) However is there any point in ever taking sky warders over endrinriggers? Looking at their rules the skypikes extra attack are not worth losing the +1 to hit, to wound and to rend.

I have 200 points and don't know what to drop in my army to get 6 endrinriggers. Another option i have though is taking a unit of irondrakes for 200 points. It means i would have no melee whatsoever but my shooting power would be hella strong.

List is

Admiral
Endrinmaster
khemist
navigator

3x10 company
1x10 thunderers
1 frigate
1 ironclad

The plan is to have 1 company and navigator in my side of the board to cap objectives where the navigator would be in sight of both my ships. frigate with khemist and gunhauler in frigate for hit and runs. The ironclad with the 2 other company, admiral and endrinmaster for swashbuckling fun.

i could cut a character off so i have 6 riggers attached to the ironclad and be guaranteed the triumph. Or i could get a unit of irondrake to provide covering fire when enemies deep strike on my side of the board.

The aim of the list is to look fluffy but also be somewhat playable and fun to paint.

>>55268628
Why arent you allying in Stormcast?

>>55268008
>WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THE AURIC GOLD ARMOR IN THE STORMCAST ETERNAL PAINT BUNDLE

Because recent stormcast painting use Liberator gold instead of Auric armor gold.

Stop watching painting vid from 1990.

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>obligatory soon

>>55268389
Do you own Reikland Fleshshade? Because the armor will look better with a wash on it

>>55268821
He bought the paint bundle, he got everything he needed.

>>55267889
Still no, His abilities are still useless

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>decide to primer all my shit because it's a sunny day, finally
>Corax white gonna corax white and one of my skellies looks like a blob of white paint now
Jesus, I hate this primer so much

>>55268764
Wasn't there confirmation of Death BATTLETOME after Christmas?

>>55268921
>not priming in Zandri Dust

>>55268957
Well, I'm new here. I thought that there is a difference between a primer and base

>>55268995
Zhandri dust is also in primer/spray form

>>55268995
There are coloured primer that are both

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>>55268921
I prime light color with these, there're white one and there're also rattle can one, but I prefer mixing my own paint rather than blindly using one in a can that can go banana anytime and ruin my model.

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Tell me guys, is this box a good deal for a new player? My friend wants to start playing AoS with deathrattle but we both have no idea how to start them properly. He is torn between a start collecting and Deathrattle Barrow Lords box

>>55269087

Mr.FINISHING SURFACER 1500 GRAY
Mr. フィニシング サーフェイサー 1500 グレー

>>55269181
Get both, use ebay for an easy 20% discount, have a decent starter army.

>>55269212
But he will end up with a one battleline unit - Arkhan the Black is too expensive to use him as an ally and he is breaking the deathrattle allegiance

>>55269242
He can include only Deathrattle units. Anyway, spending 400 pts for leader at such points limit is pretty silly.

>>55269242
If they're just starting AoS, playing a few non matched point games till they can afford another box of skellies is fine.

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Dechala fucking when?

>>55269031
I heard that the citadel sprays aren't actually primer

>>55269425
No idea, but use the Army Painter ones then.
They have a wider range and work great.

I use those anyway.

>>55267363


nice to see 4chan is still useful for some things

haven't played since mid 8th edition, seems the lore/models/rules are coming together well for AoS, prob gonna jump back in it.

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>>55269501
Thank you for visiting us your highness. We are overjoyed to learn you will 'probably' jump back into the game and that we are still useful to you.

>>55269501
What army do/did you play Anon?

>>55268628

Gonna bump my question as I would like advice, especially with the skywardens vs endrinriggers problems.

>>55268389
Stop having parkinsons then . . .

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Morathi is alive in the realm of shadow and has presumably made alliance with Daemons

When do we get more information on this?

>>55269553

Dwarfs...I mean...Duardin...I mean Dispossessed?


Yea - I'm a bit confused. I understand all that exists under 'grand alliance order' and such, but could anyone tell me what to read to catch up on how the realms developed, the history of AoS after the old world blew up?

The stuff I have managed to read has either given just a brief summary or assumed that you already knew what happened and skipped all that.

Is there a guide on how to paint black bone on manfreds dread abyssal?

>>55269818

To clarify my question, I don't even understand WHY creatures like Dwarfs still exist, whats the reasoning/excuse? All I get are 1 paragraph summaries and then I see this https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/All-Realmgate-Wars-books-ENG monster.

Something in between would be great.

>>55269772
Sauce?

>>55269861
The souls of those lost in the old world that reformed into the races of the new setting.

>>55269861
Some were already there, some survived by escaping the old world (Skaven, Lizards), some were remade by gods who survived or sucked out of Slaanesh's stomach.

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>>55269772
She is probably with Dechala now, since she had her staff in the End of Time.

Which bring to my previous point. >>55269399

DECHALA WHEN
REEEEE

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>>55268764

Gave me chills when I read that bit at the end.

Chaos resurrected him, and GW killed him again.

>>55269927
>Dechala

third tier, nobody from whfb, didn't survive the end times, not confirmed alive in the new setting.

give it up, whoever that is, it isn't coming back.

>>55269886
>Sauce?
I think it was the first book that got released for the game, not a novel, like actual book with fluff about the setting.

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Let me try one more time.
Are there any useful skryre abilities for this list or should I swap an engineer and acolytes for a warlord and 2x 20 clanrats and go with generic chaos abilities?

Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Warlock Engineer (100)
- General
Warlock Engineer (100)

Battleline
10 x Skryre Acolytes (120)
- Skryre Battleline
10 x Skryre Acolytes (120)
- Skryre Battleline

Units
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (70)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (70)
1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)

War Machines
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)

Total: 1000/1000

>>55269988
We never saw him die officially. He said he was coming for Nagash, but only after he finished off what he was fighting as he charged headfirst into the warp. This means eventually we will see Settra return, and it'd be a fantastic new faction/rivalry for the Death Grand alliance

I have a rules question, yesterday i had a skirmish game where my opponent killed one of my blood warriors and then before removing my warrior i used his no respite ability. My opponent then tried to activate another one of his models to attack after i resolved the attack saying that it was his turn to attack again.

My question is: isnt the no respite ability suppossed let me attack immediately before i remove the model from play thus circumventing the order of activation? i believe it was my turn to activate another one of my units elegible for combat.

What do you guys think???

>>55270153

>implying GW is some how legally bound to commit to what they write in their fiction

They're not. They'll bring back TK in a big official way ONLY if it makes good financial sense, not because of something one of their fluff writers wrote. Sadly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7RNAPdJTAs

Somewhere in there (towards the end) he mentions how TK were never brought up by a single question or by any GW staff. Not a good sign imo.

>>55270178
blood warriors attacking after theyre dead, but before theyre removed from combat, doesn't count as one of your unit activations for the purposes of resolving the combat phase.

>>55270178
It says nothing about order of activation, you pile in and attack before you remove it. You dont activate it again. Itll be your turn to activate after he has killed your dudes and theyve attacked.

>>55270178

It doesn't affect the turn order at all. It says the dead model can attack and that's it.

So it means:

Player A attacks Player B's bloodwarriors
Bloodwarrior dies and ability activates so it gets to attack.
Player B chooses next unit to attack.

>>55270239
>no questions about TK
It's not our fault that "reporters" are retarded and ask only questions that already have readily available answers with a google search

>>55270248
>>55270269
>>55270281

Yup, thats what i thought but one faggot tryed to rules lawyer it so i needed clarification for the sake of being sure... thx guys

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>>55269886
>Sauce?

found it for you

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>>55270239
fun fact: Vince owns more Ushabti than any other person on the planet (and I suspect him to be this person >>55268764).

Sadly TK are well and truly squatted and not coming back.

Now that we are on it. Does the crimson haze rule from the wrathmongers aplies at the start of the combat phase, when a model activates to pile in and attack or when it attacks? i.e: model was in range of the aura when the combat phase started but lost range when he piled in... does he get the extra attack or not??

Is this list any good lads?

Slaves to Darkness Allegiance – Chaos Undivided 2000pts
Lord on a Daemonic Mount- 140pts
-Lord of Terror
-Helm of the Oppressor
-Mark: Depends on what I am going up against
Chaos Sorcerer Lord on a Manticore – 200pts
Chaos Sorcerer Lord on a Manticore – 200pts
Chaos Knights x5 – 160pts
Chaos Knights x5 – 160pts
Chaos Knights x5 – 160pts
Chaos Marauder Horsemen x10 – 180pts
Chaos Marauder Horsemen x10 – 180pts
Chaos Marauder Horsemen x10 – 180pts
Chaos Chariot – 80pts
Ruinbringer Warband – 180pts
Chaos Warshrine – 180pts
2000/2000 pts

>>55270098
Too many weapon teams, not enough Stormfiends. They are walking weapons platforms, benefit heavy from sparks, and a better battleline than Acolytes. Also, 10 man acolytes will melt before they get close enough to shoot anything.

>>55270665
>Too many weapon teams, not enough Stormfiends
Not gonna spend a single cent on stormfiends - GW already killed my mixed-skaven army so I'm just trying to use whatever I can to play at all. I would rather start a new army than spend more money on skaven
>Also, 10 man acolytes will melt before they get close enough to shoot anything.
They are on this list only as a battleline tax desu

>>55270543
Interestingly, there is push in head office to rerelease a lot of the newer skeleton plastics as part of a bigger death release. Things like the necrosphynx and tomb guard and anything that was part of the last major TK release. Thered be no new models, and no new rules, but some of the compendium stuff would be folded into deathrattle. The pushback is that these models have been gone so long theres no reason to, and even the higher ups know that most of the people who want them are salty grognards (Actual quote) who wont buy them even when they do come back.

>>55270737
Source on this?

>>55270714
>Not gonna spend a single cent on Stormfiends
Then stop asking for help with your shitty list, and play something else than Skryre, especially if you're insistent on not using the allegiance.

>>55270821
>if you're insistent on not using the allegiance
I want to use skryre allegiance - did you read my post at all?

>>55270758
Source is me.

>>55267363
This hurts me. I'm just going to forever stay in my WFRP 2nd edition world, just after the storm of chaos.

>>55270880
And refusing to use their best unit isn't the way to go. You wanted tips, gave ya the two biggest ones, and you shot down both. Have fun getting tabled turn 2.

>>55270917
>You wanted tips
Yeah, you can not read. I didn't ask for a "spend more money on a battleline than you have spend on your whole army" advice. I asked if there are any useful skryre abilities for this specific list and you said no word about any abilities - only "buy more shit"

>>55270959
Its 50 fuckin bucks dude. Go home poorfag, you're in the wrong hobby

>>55271218
>being this stupid
>still can not read
Oh boi

>>55270598
Hmm, at first I was inclined to say you measure when you roll your attacks (after pile in) but now idk.
It just says "in the combat phase", which could mean "all models within 3" at any point during the combat phase". However, running that interpretation opens new questions. If a model in a multi unit combat was in range of the ability at the start of the phase, but the wrathmongers are all slain, does it still get the extra attacks because it received the buff at the start of the phase? That doesn't seem correct.
RAI is probably to check for the ability after pile in, since that's the simplest option. Honestly, the "in the combat phase" statement could be dropped from the warscroll and it would remove confusion.

>>55271273
People here would rather tear their own faces off than admit they were wrong. Learn to find it funny and it becomes far more bearable.

>>55270737

Any other interesting tidbits from the head office?

>>55271273
Short answer: no, there is no aligence traits that help your shitty list, and replacing with 40 clanrats wont help
Long answer: read what the other anons have said if you dont want to cripple yourself because "muh list is already maed"

>>55271310
Yeah, im inclined to think check it just before attacking and as you say its the simplest but still, raw seems to be to vague. Still dont know why people doesnt seem to bother about this rule description as it has been imposible for me to find a clear answer. Thx for the input.

>>55271390
I always assumed it was right before you allocated attacks, so if you piled out of the bubble range you lost it

>>55271312
Yeah, I see this now. Welp, so it's about time to drop the skaven for good. I picked them because they were cheap as fuck and fun to play thanks to the units variety. Now they are not cheap or fun anymore - I see no point in running 1000pts army with 600pts of battleline. I have a pretty nice aos budget right now and the birthday next month so I would rather spend two times more money on a new real army than $150 on stormfiends and friends: the sitcom

>>55271322
Im sure theres loads of stuff, but nothing relevent off the top of my head. I dont usually hear too much about upcoming releases, but I hear bits and pieces, most of what we hear is 3 months in advance, about when white dwarf is written. All I know is 40k stuff atm, all the codecies that are upcoming before the end of the year are whatt people are talking about. I actually heard about the 4 new AoS heroes next year from a rumor site before I heard it in person.

>>55269861
It's vague right now. They might flesh it out later.

We didn't learn the origins of the old races or the old world until they were deep into the narrative, give it some time to develop

>>55270426
>morathi helping sigmar
Huh.

>>55270598
Since it doesn't specify a time of activation then it is a continuous ability.

When a model attacks check if a wrathmonger is within 3". If so, you can add 1 attack to each of its melee weapons.

>>55267392
It's a bumb limit, you cretin.

>have the entire stormcast collection
>2-4 of each box
>only things I dont have are stardrakes, hunters, and palladors
>have no interest in any of those kits
>see blightwar
>realize i can split the box and get a lot of the models im missing as well as 3 more raptors for a huge discount

help, i think i might be a consumer whore

>>55271690
>splitting the box
>not keeping Krumm from Real Monsters

>>55270239

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7RNAPdJTAs [Embed]
>10 sisters of battle questions

Cringe.

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>>55271630
>>55270426
>Morathi in the realm of shadow
>flesh and blood, but changed
>chilling in a glade of shadow daemons
>joins the great alliance and works for Sigmar

one of these things does not belong

>>55271758
I imagine Malekith is with Sigmar and Morathi is with Malekith, and by transitivity Morathi is with Sigmar, but not really.

>>55271797
At the end of the day, Morathi only cares about herself and her son, as twisted as that maternal instinct might be. She seems quite happy to side either with or against Chaos, or at least attempt to manipulate it, as her whims and circumstance dictate.

>>55271429
>>55271652

I think i will rule it like this from now on, thx you guys.

is the new deathrattle barrow lords box any good? I like the look of them and am thinking about it for the beginnings of a deathrattle army

>>55271508
One unit of stormfiends. Combine the acolytes. Drop the teams and a cannon. Give your general verminous valour and put him near the acolytes. Or, drop both cannons for doomwheels, and play vial of the fulminator and deranged inventor. The problem isn't skryre, its your list. You posted your list like 5 times, and got nothing. Maybe don't act like a cunt when people try to help.

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Update from BCR painting anon.

My first try at skin. It's Rakarth Flesh base, then Kislev Flesh in four thin layers. Then two reikland flesshade for dark cracks. From there a bunch of layers of super watered down kislev flesh getting a little smaller and adding some white each time.

I really like how it looks at arms length, but up close it looks like a retard with crayons couldn't stay in the lines. Is there a wash I can put over it to help blend, or on the next guy will I just need to do double the transitional layers?

>>55272694
>blah blah blah buy a lot of new stuff blah blah blah
As I said, I'm not gonna buy anything so why are you wasting your time? I just asked if there is any useful skryre ability for my list - that's all. If there is none, why do you even bother?
>Maybe don't act like a cunt when people try to help.
Again, it's not help when I'm asking about apples and you are replying to my posts and write about oranges. At this point you are the same kind of poster as this Anon replying to every post with "drop your army and buy SCE". I want to use my SoD units or don't play skaven at all and I pointed it out few times at least - I see no help in "drop all your shit and buy doomwheels, stormfiends etc".

>>55272787
just use something like Lhamean medium mixed with reikland fleshshade. In something like 1 Reikland to three Medium
and wash the model. It should even out some of the rougher transitions.

>>55271508
Wow, an anon with the opposite tastes as me. Stormfiends are just about the only interesting Skaven at all, and certainly the best non-hero sculpt. The rest look like shitty melted snot with cloaks, and way too numerous and samey.
I'd be absolutely thrilled if my battleline was as cool as stormfiends.

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>>55272855
One man's meat is another man's poison

>>55272845
I will try this!

Long time WHFB/40k player, looking to get started with Aos. Thinking of going Sylvaneth, what are some viable builds for them? Is getting 2 SC boxes so I have 2 treelord/ancient/durthu and a core of 30 dryads then building from there a good idea?

>>55273255
That's a fine starting point.

I don't have too much experience with Sylvanneth except that they're interesting and tactical on the table (with wildwood summoning and forest step teleports), great models, and strong but not top tier.

Your heroes and artefacts are hugely powerful, from a seed that lets you reincarnate to the thicc god queen on her attack beetle or drycha or durthu.

Here's a thread about them:
www.tga [dot] community/forums/topic/1827-lets-chat-sylvaneth/

>>55272821
Okay fine. No, there are no useful skryre abilities for your list. Welcome to warhammer, where list building is a core part of the experience.

>>55273255
>then building from there a good idea?
Nope, pick kurnouth hunters

>>55272787

I've been having trouble with skin myself, because too much contrast looks terrible on skin.

I use Bugmans Glow as a base, then completely cover it in Cadian Fleshtone. Then I go over the whole model with Fleshshade+Medium, clean up the Cadian, and do very very slight highlights with Kislev.

It looks bretty gud

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so im thinking of making a small fyreslayers force
I want to do brown beards, pale-ish skin, limit gold to just runes while using silvers for most of the armor and weapons and blue flames. You think this would look okay?
Also considering converting their axes into hammers bc hammers are cool

>>55273255
2 tla, drycha, branchwych, 20 dryads, 2x5 tree/spite revenants, and 3x3 kurnoth is what i run for my 2k, fun and competetive in my meta

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someone was asking about warplock jezzail conversions last thread.
Ive been scouring ebay for cheap IoB warlocks and converting them into jezzails with a clan rat meatshield in front.
The left rat is using a Transuranic Arquebus. the arms from the sprue needed a little green stuff to fit right, but results were good.
The other two guns are kroot rifles with the stock cut off so they can easliy be glued onto the exisiting stock of the model.
As a bonus the kroot rifles can connect up to the exisitng cables
Also would recommend changing out heads.
I used a leftover WLC head and stormvermin.

>>55273471
>Welcome to warhammer, where list building is a core part of the experience.

This holy fuck. i hope that dumb cunt drops Skaven like a rock, i don't want his kind playing my favorite faction.

That entire chain of posts underscores why i never reply to list-posting faggots, people are so rude, ungrateful and determined to hear what they want to hear it's pointless.

>>55273608
Cant comment anon without seeing sample work from you. On paper it sounds fine but execution is key.

>>55273888
> i don't want his kind playing my favorite faction
Oh you special snowflake
>people are so rude, ungrateful and determined to hear what they want to hear it's pointless
I don't get this. I asked about abilities but received useless posts about buying new stuff. I pointed out that I don't want to buy any new stuff because I see no point in spending money on army I was playing only because it was cheap. In return I was named as poorfag just because I prefer to spend my money on brand new army. Mind to show me where I was rude?
Also why should I be grateful? I didn't ask about any list-building tips so why should I be grateful? For what? An useless "buy more skaven crack" advice while I didn't want any? Jesus guys, you are so fuckin insecure

>>55273471
Can't wait until that faggot comes into threads saying Skryre sucks cuz he's getting tabled all the time...

>>55274000
Welcome to /tg/. Leave while you can, lest you be drawn into yelling at people over the internet about tiny army men too.

Send help.

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Ever since the Vanguard chambers were announced I've always felt they reflected the aspects I liked the most about Dark Elves in 7th and 8th.

I'm not a big fan of the Stormcast models though, so I've tried to make it more elf themed so I can tick off two annoying fanbase boxes at once!

>>55274217
>literally what those griffons should have been

I am full of so much bitterness

>>55274000
He skimmed your post and gave you useful advice that wasn't exactly what you wanted, but was trying to be helpful, and you bit his fucking head off.
Lighten up.

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>>55274215
>playing since 2015
>played with khorne, nurgle and finally mixed-skaven
>list went shit with GHB17 so want to have a casual fun and try skryre abilities with some leftover skryre units - don't give a fuck about competitive
>ask about useful skryre abilities for a specific list
>not about list building, units or how to improve the list - only about abilities
>a fuckin shitstorm arises because I'm not grateful for nonrelevant replies
The worst thing is these generals used to be so fuckin friendly and helpful. Now it's just full of 40k-tier grognards salty because they can not read a single question properly. So fuckin sad

>>55274217
that looks sweet af anon

>>55274354
>you bit his fucking head off
Jesus, are you 12yo girls or what? I just stated the fact so he wouldn't waste more time on useless replying. I didn't name him a fag or an idiot. I said I'm not gonna spend money on a unit he mentioned about and this is a "bitting head off" in your opinion?

>>55274424
Dramafag pls go

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>>55274447
>still replying to my posts because can not read a question
>m-muh glorious faction!
>y-you are so rude!
>d-dramafag, why are you r-replying!

>feel like these generals gave become cespits lately
>decide to go to 40kg to see if its any better
>dramafags within 10 posts
Yeah this place is sadly still the most comfy gw general

>>55274659
Go to infinity general - they are like a support group

>>55274706
Considering the franchise goes on suicide watch every time gw releases something im not surprised

>>55274271
>>55274385
Thanks a lot!

I've been fiddling with a few conversions to make a 'stormcast' elf army. I'll post some more when I've got something worth showing

Crypt Ghouls is terribly easy and good models. After Dark Imperium DG part, painting some ghouls is really funny and relaxed.
but I still made several mistakes and almost ruined my first ghoul

>>55274784
I was thinking about jumping into infinity but 1) I have already spent nice money on AoS so I want to stick with a one hobby 2) I don't really like metal models. On the other hand the infinity community is so friendly and supportive that I want to start playing it just to hang out with them

>>55270633
Why put the sorc lord on a manitcore? Put em on horses and use the points for some warhounds

>>55274900
Show us your stuff Anon

>>55274361
>The worst thing is these generals used to be so fuckin friendly and helpful. Now it's just full of 40k-tier grognards salty because they can not read a single question properly. So fuckin sad

I blame the non-stop SC releases

I know its not rational but it makes me feel good to blame that

>>55275045
Fug, not now. I will be pretty busy in next 17 hours.

>>55274964
Because you can't ally warhounds to Slaves.

Would you be okay with your opponent using a bigger base for a model that it should be? I want to put my grey seer on a 40mm, standing on the top of a broken bell

>>55275571
I'd be fine with it. But I usually try to stick to the standard sizes

>>55275189
I'll take a bunch of stormcast newbies over a single extra grognard pouring his salt shaker out over them.

>>55274361
Its still pretty friendly from what I see and post.

>>55267363
>>55267363
Do you guys think Tzeench is competitive? Anyone think they can put together a sample competitive tournament list for 1000 pets? 1500/2000 is fine too. This is what I've been tinkering with - no items/traits taken yet I've only purchased Pink Horrors so have some flexibility- what do you guys think?

Tzaangor Shammy -160
Ogroid -160
Skyfires -200
Enlightened -160

Battleline
Pink Horrors -120
Tzaangors -180

980 pts

>>55275714
>I'll take a bunch of stormcast newbies over a single extra grognard pouring his salt shaker out over them.

I was just saying that I think the vibe has slowly become noticeably more sour, in large part because of the almost exclusive focus on SC in the release cycles. Could be totally wrong, its just a theory.

>>55275904

I don't think you have to act like it's a loony bin conspiracy theory that people are sick and tired of SC.

Is there a possibility of there being more Slaves to Darkness support in the future, or do GW not care for StD?

>>55275800
Who's leg do I have to change to get some damn advice around here..

>>55276354
Well according to that video posted last thread, one of the reasons they're having problems with the older armies, is how are they going to look and fit together as a whole when updated. The example were Free People, the ones from Azyr are what we have now, but what about Ghur, or Chamon, and how would those keep a unique look yet fit together cohesively with those old empire models?

So, yeah there's a possibility but it's probably not going to be any time soon.

>>55275800
>>55276405
It's reasonably fine, what the fuck more do you want? Rating lists is boring.
Ask a question in regards to speific units or tactics, that's more interesting.

>>55276354
They just got allegiance abilities and new allies box mate. Don't worry - StD are a Swiss Army knife for chaos forces so they will be supported one way or another

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>>55276354
>std
>not a specialized Nurgle/Slaanesh army

>>55273255
Just out of curiosity what WHFB army did you play?

>>55276477
>>55276814
I'm just wondering will they maybe get any new models?

>>55276840
I like chaos undivided. My dudes are my dudes.

>>55276917
They got one in Silver Tower, so yeah I'd say they'll get more.

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almost finished with these ratling gun conversions.
Thinking about chopping their heads off...

>>55276956
the darkoath chieftain is nothing special. I'm talking about a major character, or a new unit

>>55274858
Good luck when you want to enter a tourney

>>55272219
It is. All of the models in it are useful, so it is a good place to start. Better than the Skeleton Hoard start collecting, which gives you a giant monster hero you will never actually use.

>>55276932
No, he was joking about the acronym. Slaves to Darkness. STD. Sexually Transmitted Disease. Nurgle/Slaanesh.

>>55276579
I'm asking because there's very few sources for lists post gh2017 that are competitive and wanted to put my finger on the pulse of the AoS hardcores before I buy a bunch of models that potentially may not be viable. Example, never used Enlightened don't know if people will be using these competitively or just spamming Skyfires (which are harder to jam in 1000 puts [two units]). Also, everyone and their kid at my legs are fielding 400+ pt monsters even at 1000 points - is LoC obligatory and if so fielding him and a shammy is difficult to squeeze but I feel the shammy is also necessary for the incredible bonus it gives to Skyfires - things like this are driving me bonkers and I can't seem to find tested advice anywhere.

While I'm on the subject of reasons why I asked about my particular list, do you think I have enough "core" to be able withstand heavy melee units? ie can I do enough damage with the chaf I have to protect me to shoot up the enemy before their able to wipe me out/control objectives.

>>55270737
Damn. I know a couple people who would've gotten into AoS if they still sold TK. Honestly that last batch was some of the best models they've ever done IMO.

>>55270737
>Death GA needs more shit.
>TK stuff has already been developed.
Seriously how hard would it be to just dust off the molds and make a few of those bitchin sphinxes?

>>55276974
How'd ya do it?

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>>55267858
>new brown cirno

>>55277116
That went way over my head

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>2017
>I still want to build a greenskinz army
I think I might have brain damage

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OC

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>>55278279
Im making a Moonclan one. Its ok to be green anon.

>>55278279
If you like something you shouldn't feel bad about it anon, don't let your culture control you...........

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>>55278504
Aren't moonclan okayish at least? They were pretty gut before GHB17 release

Who is more advanced? Kharadron Overlords, or Chaos Dorfs? I keep seeing good arguments for either one and can only assume they are both on the same level technologically.

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>>55278571
I feel bad about being tabled even in casual games. I wish that GW would convert greenskinz into an ally mini-faction with some useful allegiance abilities like Nighthaunt or Wanderers

>>55278619
Can Greenskinz not be allied? The problem with them is how GW took their actual infantry units(The black orks/armored orks) and gave them to a totally different faction. Speaking of Black Orks, are they still in existence or is just every Ork a black ork in the new setting?

>>55277202
Nobody is replying because this is a gay dead game

>>55278279
Maybe they will get something making them not total garbage soon.

I also really want that shaman model

>>55278642
Black orcs became the ironjawz

'Ard boyz are still basically ordinary black orcs but many got way bigger and became brutes and megabosses

>>55278572
Ya they are neat. Squigs chew stuff up. Fanatics can nuke infantry. Grots are cheap and troggoths with net grots become a sledgehammer. Still grots though so victory isnt normal. Can still bite pretty hard though.

Anyone have scans of the open war cards?

>>55274217
>tick off two annoying fanbase boxes at once
You are the hero wip deserves.

>>55279109
You forgot the best part: Warboss Bombs

>>55279829
All he needs is to work in skaven and he's 3/3

>>55280481
explain

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Blood Knights removed from webstore.

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>>55280914
Okay. Check this shit out.
You take the Moonclan Grot Warboss as your General.
Give it Big and Brutish
Give it Battle Brew
Take Prodder and Squig
Your boss now has three different 4+ 3+ -1 attacks: One that is D6 shots at 14" and does 1 wound
One that is 4 attacks with one wound each
One that is 4 attacks that deal d3 damage each

So say you want a thing dead. You have your boss take two swigs of the battle brew. You now have +2 to hit and wound with all weapons.You have him drop his ability, I'm Da Boss Now Stab Em Good, on himself. Now when you roll six or higher to wound you do double damage. This means if you roll 4 5 or 6 you deal two wounds with your ranged weapon and the basic prodder melee weapon. With your squig you're now doing d3 x2 right?
WRONG NIGGA
Down in one makes it that if you roll six or higher to wound with your squig you do d6 damage instead. This means if you roll a 4 5 or 6 with your squig to wound, you do d6 x2 damage. You have 4 of these attacks. You have the potential to deal 12 wounds with a single one of these attacks and you have four of them PLUS what you did in shooting and what you did with your prodder.
So to recap
You turn a 14" d6 4+ 3+ -1 1 turned into 14" d6 2+ 2+ -1 1 that doubles damage on wound rolls of 4 5 or 6
You turn a 2" 4 4+ 3+ -1 1 into a 2" 4 2+ 2+ -1 1 that doubles damage on wound rolls of 4 5 or 6
You turn a 1" 4 4+ 3+ -1 d3 into a 1" 4 2+ 2+ -1 d3 that becomes a d6 x2 damage on 4 5 or 6

Sure you now take d6 mortal wounds, but hey, Big and Brutish were taken so that way you now have to roll 5 or 6 to instantly vanish

>>55281116
They're still there, you just gotta search for them. They're listed as being out of stock though so they might be reboxing them
Or they'll be getting plastics witht he new death release

>>55281205
Battle Brew, and indeed all artifacts and command traits, only work on the hero and not their mount/companion(s).

>>55281263
gay

>>55281277
tell me about it. I was enjoying tokens of the everwinter on my frostlord on stonehorn before this nerf :(

>>55281263
Not boss on squig
Boss with squig and prodder
The squig is a weapon

>>55277002
I don't think that will be a problem. If I'll go to a Tourney I'll probably bring something more competitive than the list I made for these guys

So... grot sky pirates when?

>>55281758
Has this been implied by the lore or are you just throwing out an idea? Because I would definitely buy grot sky pirates

>>55281798

I believe they show up in the kharadron book and some book about chamon. So... maybe coming?

>>55281817
They've been popping up in the lore here and there for the past few years. If GW sees there's enough interest in them, they'll throw us a bone.

>>55281817
>>55281835
And here I was hoping for a big Slaanesh release soon when I could've been hoping for grot sky pirates. Thanks for showing me the light.

>>55272821
The level of poor faggotry is over 9000, wrong hobby detected.

>>55281875
I think they were actually one of the first things hinted at in the lore that people latched on to. Like the first "This might become a new thing" thing

>>55281901
Is there anything else being hinted at as a new thing? I obviously haven't been paying enough attention but all the new AoS stuff seems really cool.

>>55281930
Fimir WILL be a new thing when forge world gets off their collective asses. They've spoiled 3 new, as of yet unfinished models, have room for two upgrade kits or three more additional models, had a points value for one of the spoiled but unreleased models on FW, and have their own section on forge world's site, despite literally only consisting of a single unit at the current time

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>>55280497
I'm unsure of how to add skaven to my army's bits pile. But I could start typing like one of them skaven players if you'd like!

On a side note, i finished a rough mockup of my lord Aquilor.

>>55282373
What are you planning on running in your list?

>>55282404
My 1k list i'm planning is as follows:

Lord Aquilor with mirror shield and staunch defender
Mistweaver Saih (ally)
5x Vanguard Hunters
5x Vanguard Hunters
3x Vanguard Palladors
3x Raptors with hurricane crossbows
3x Aetherwings

>>55282440
Raptors with hurricane crossbows. Use Skaven for them. Aetherwings can be ratbirds too

>>55282465
Oh man. I think I wont do it though, sounds like a bit too much work for my taste

So guys, given how the game is tanking, how long do you think they will keep up the charade before giving it the WFB treatment ?

>>55282505
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Skaven-Warplock-Jezzails
Don't forget to give your dudes a super mary sue backstory

>>55282591
Gr8 b8 m8

>>55282591
I for one am looking forward to the Age of Archaon in three years.

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Hmm, which color should I use for the clothes?

I really don't want to use any kind of Ultramarine blue, but I'm not sure what would go nicely with that grey / white

>>55282651

What about Red Clothes, Black Leather between the armor and Brown for the weapon shaft?

>>55282651
Hot pink and neon green.

>>55268008

Auric Armour Gold is shit, don't worry about it.

For real one of the worst paints I've ever had the displeasure of trying to work with.

>>55270336

Yeah you're right, it's the medias fault that TKs are a shit dead faction.

Fake news!

Sad!

Hi guys.
I've decided to get into AoS, but I've never really been into miniature models up until now. Could anybody point me in a good direction for how to get started with model prepping and painting? I see all this stuff about mold lines, cork, sticky tack, brushes, painting styles, etc. but I don't know where to begin.

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

>>55284117

Which minis do you like the most?
Find an army you like, then get the minis, their Paint Bundle + Primer Spray (usually Chaos Black) + Brush essentials + Plastic Glue. And at any hardware store get a Hobby Knife. Then google how to make a wet palette.

There, you're good to go

>>55284174
Also model clippers.

And think about bases. Finished bases add a lot to models. Usually a sand + some static grass is enough. Or cork. Google "cork bases" and just look at pictures, it's really easy.

>>55284174
Thank you thank you friend. You've made this chaos aspirant a happy camper.

Is the Hammerstrike Force worth it to deliver your Paladins or are Dracoth riders better?
A unit of 2 puts out nearly the same damage as a unit of 5 respective Paladins (Retributors to Concussors and Protectors to Fulminators) and they're roughly the same in terms of resilience.
For slightly less in damage and resilience you get guys that are faster and you don't to pay the 420 point tax to deliver them.

>>55282651
>but I'm not sure what would go nicely with that grey / white
That's a neutral colour if you didn't work it more warm or cold.
The gold is the colour you need to work with, and the colour that goes more nicely is purple.

If you have plans for a base, you need to take those colours into account too.

>>55282651
I'm gonna steal this combo.

>>55281899
I'm not this Anon but you might be retarded. He stated a few times that he wants to buy a new army instead of expanding his rats

Might be interesting for Verminus players, in the Spear of Shadows a new kind of uber skaven is introduced called; Death Vermin.

They're described as Big Ogre-sided (armored) Skaven with hooked weapons. Might be a hint of things to come...

If they introduce monstrous infantry and some sort of Totem unit that would be really swell.

>>55271758
It's a pantheon, most gods in ancient pantheons had some hang-ups or grudges against each other.

>>55285000
>Moulder/Skryre Stormfiend
>Moulder/Verminus Death Vermin
I would buy it

>>55285047
>>55285047
Would be pretty cool. If they make it into a kit a la Kurnoth Hunters + a totem unit in the style of a bloodsecrator + a special character with a battletome it would be a solid release.

Not quite sure what Verminus' unique style would be to differentiate it from other 'soldier' armies.

>>55285022
In Spear of Shadows it's shown that while most faiths co-exist in the cities they don't necessarily like each other. You have Tyrion/Light worshippers who wear blindfolds, Nagash Death cultists, a cult that worships Sigmar like a Worm-Emperor, etc.

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Should I put objective markers on 40mm or 32mm gonna be fine?

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I've just finished painting my first mini ever. Honestly, I'm not too satisfied, I feel like I needed to at least make the clothes of a different color from shoulders / shield. And I don't have the colors to highlight the weapon shaft and the scroll. But anyway:

>Comments
>Protips
>Insults

all welcome

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>>55285197
>And I don't have the colors to highlight the weapon shaft and the scroll
Don't bother Anon, you should learn how to use bases and shades firstly. Pic related is my first model ever - as you can see, you are not the worst painter here so don't worry and have fun with trying new tecniques and colours

>>55277326
You say that but TK never sold, I mean really never sold. Afaik a couple of their molds never made their money back. Thats why they never updated the skeleton models to be in line with the VC plastics. Then when they decided they wanted to axe the old skeletons they just decided to axe the facttion rather than update it.

>>55277435
Putting a mold into production isnt a simple process, even if the mold already exists. Also packaging is a major expense. Most of the time when something is out of stock its because theyve run out of the standard packaging. Putting the boxes into production far in advance is dirt cheap but if you have to rush them the price jumps substantially. Itts more than just "dusting off the old molds". Hell Im not even sure what state the molds are in. Those things are mind bogglingly expensive and still wear down over time. Theyre also prone to damage if theyve been in storage for a long time.

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>>55285197
>>55268821
I'm gonna fucking say it, even if it goes against the teaching of our Lord Duncun.

Washing Gold with Reikland Flashshade and highlighting in Stormhost Silver is an abomination.

I don't fucking care what the 'Eavy Metal team does, it's fucking disgusting.

It's not an offense to you japanese anon, you did great, but what they teach you is wrong.

>>55285379

>Washing Gold with Reikland Flashshade and highlighting in Stormhost Silver is an abomination.

What should I use then?

>>55285354
Got any sales numbers to back that up? You're making some claims about sales numbers and ROI that I'd love to see some sources for.
>>55285429
Fleshshade with Silver highlights is the tits. That Anon will probably suggest a brown shade which will only make the gold look dull. Silver highlights look great but need to be applied with care or it risks looking 'fake'

>>55285605
Why do you people always assume when we tell you things we have detailed ledgers full of sales information that we can also magically share with the public and still keep our jobs afterwards?

Its office talk. Things I hear or we talk about I can share. And we do talk about these things a lot. Technically as long as I don't reveal any confidential information I can say whatever I want. Most people wont say this stuff even if you ask because they think its more proffessional to keep inner workings secret when they really dont have to. I dont care about that. You guys should know why something is taken out of production, it stops idiots whining about it when you know theres a good reason. Also stops morons demanding sometthing comes back when its not really possible.

>>55285379
Why do you say that? It looks pretty good imo

>>55285664
I feel bad marketing and rules was also a factor in TK not selling. You need to remember that was Kirby era and that guy fucked things up so bad it's amazing that GW survived

>>55285197
I think what you need is a midtone to ease the highlight's transition.

Like do a 50/50 mix of gold and silver and put that where you put the silver now. And then use the silver for the finest edges, that'd make it look better.

But I must say this is looking great for a first mini!

>>55285792

Tomorrow I'll try painting another liberator and create a transition highlight color then!
What do you guys think about the shield / cloth color? I'm not too satisfied, but I guess it's too late to change it now

>>55285820
What colours do you have? I'd follow one anon's recommendation of doing purple at least for the cloth.

for the white, i'd recommend shading it with either beige or blue, like drakenhof nightshde in the recesses, to make it have some depth.

>>55285664
I believe you anon. Do you know if Death will get anything new at least?

>>55285789
Im sure theres a lot of factors that influenced it, but the common consensus among the front end is that rules don't actually influence sales as much as you think. If people like a model they tend to buy it regardless of how good it is. Those are the people that make up the bulk of the sales, people who are focussed on rules are a significant portion of the sales base, but they are not the majority.

Honestly I was never really sure why they didnt just wait a little longer to see how theyd sell in AoS, we saw a BIG jump in the sales of oldhammer models when AoS came out, contrary to what some people would have you believe.

Kirby was a cunt, but he only dictated policy, he wasnt actually involved in the decisions as far as actually what to cut from ranges. If he said one of the ranges had to be downsized then naturally someone else has to decide TK werent selling and that they should stop production. He was responsible for you nearly getting humped by GW staff when you walked into a store, front end sales targets were pushed to rediculous levels. There was so much staff turnover both due to people failing to meet quotas during probation and people disgusted at the way they had to deal with customers. I cant be sure about this but Im pretty sure kirby never actually said the "half as many models for twice the cost" rules, but it was someone pressured really hard to come up with a way of increasing profits. Dont know for certain though. His influence pushed people into some really tough spots.

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>>55285891

>for the white, i'd recommend shading it with either beige or blue

Oh boy, that sounds like the perfect recipe for a disaster

And well, I got the Stormcast Eternal paint bundle so I'm pretty sure I don't have any purple paint. Closest I got is Screamer Pink. I'll go to Tokyo on the 22nd and get some random colors at the GW store so I can properly experiment, but I'm really not sure which colors are must have, or based on what should I choose what to get.

GW store in my city FUCKING WHEN

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>>55285938
I said earlier in the thread I only know 40k for the forseeable future.

Only thing I know is the 4 new heroes (pic related), and like I said I heard about that from a rumor site first. Dont even know what the other 3 are. Sometimes things dont come down the vine to me. Im not actually that close to the studio guys.

>>55285942
I will never understand how a man can be so oblivious to how bad he's doing. He must feel like shit given how Rountree is blowing him the fuck out nonstop with record breaking profits.

>>55285976
Can you at least pass a message for Forge World to get off their asses and give me my Chaos Dwarf battletome already? Other than that, thank you for the intel anon.

>>55285948
Ah I see. Screamer pink is something you can use to make anb aproximation of purple, but I am not the best with that colour so I can't help you there. Sorry.

Right, gonna see if there are any kharadron players here... again.

Is there any point in taking skywardens over endrinriggers?

>>55285989
Kev is a really cool guy, he actually likes the games. Good attitude, realises that the company has a community around it, rather than a customer base. Thats kind of his key characteristic. There is some rumblings about the discounts hes doing being almost too good, and theres a lot of missed profits in some places, so you might see some leaner deals in the future, but idk its just rumor. I always feel some of the higher ups dont cop that its okay to sell stuff at bargain basement prices if theyre old shit models nobody will buy anyway, like the seraphon SC box, one recent nice model and 20 shit ones nobody wants to pay for, but its a great deal so people buy it. People love deals, even if theyre buying stuff they dont want as long as its cheaper.

>>55286001
I don't know anything about how FW does things, Im not sure theres going to be any FW battletomes. Also dont underestimate GW or FW knowing what you guys want, theyre gamers too and probably want to do all the stuff you want them to do. Usually theres no funds or something already in the pipeline or no room in the production schedule for it. Remember the lead in time for an armybook is HUGE. So much art, so much writing, and people underestimate how long the actual design and formatting takes, then theres localisation, which takes about 3 months (about how long it takes for WD anyway).

>>55285976
Ah ok. Well thanks for the info, it's quite appreciated. Do you happen to know if AoS is doing better than Fantasy did? I'm rather fond of this game and hope it sricks around.

>>55286240
AoS made me pick up my old WHFB army and jus play fantasy in general

>>55285664
Because I have no way to know if you are legit on a Anon board. It all sounds pretty believable but being sceptical of strangers on the internet is only healthy.

I mean most of that stuff could be cooked up by anyone with half a brain who knows how a corporation works

>>55285976

What have you heard about 40k?

>>55286240
It is. Fantasy was only taking in 5% of the income of GW. Less than the paints and glues. AoS when last reported was 35%.

>>55286240
It is, but not as well as 40k. AoS did better than 8th ed pre-GHB, but thats not much of a suprise, 8th ed did fucking shit. Post-GHB it got another boost. Its doing pretty well but what theyre really happy with is the community engagement with it. People are way more involved in AoS than they were in WHFB.

>>55286337
Sorry bru, Im just sick of the whole "Show us exact sale numbers and exact sources or gtfo" bullshit, as if any rumormonger can be considered as a source. Thing is yeh most of this stuff is pretty logical happenings within a company, some people dont get that and think GW is some evil corp out to steal their children and boil their bones to make scenery.

>>55286356
Same things you have at this stage. Upcoming GK, Admech etc. I dont actually see the book in production, best we get is a look a couple weeks before release. If I hear about something upcoming model wise I really am not suppoosed to say, I could lose my job for breaching confidentiality. Most of what I hear is from office talk, Im not actually in the studio or have insights into design. Thats why I only comment on the business side of things.

>>55277326
The Necrosphinx was frankly one of the best molds GW has done, simply from a "Spare Bitz" and kitbash perspective. It was a damn shame to see it go.

>>55286480
This this this, holy Fuck why can't they market it and the tomb guard as some new units for Death that come from a desert region of shyish? The Necrosphinx even appeared a few times in some AoS novel I believe

>>55285183
32 is best

>>55286449
>It is. Fantasy was only taking in 5% of the income of GW.
>source: my ass

>>55286565
>He refuses to believe the setting that wasn't making any money and was killed made more than 5%

>>55286565
Those numbers are pulled out of his ass, but fantasy was pulling in less money than hobby tools and paints were at the end of 8th.

>>55286586
It came from what some anon posted a while ago. Was an excerpt. Suphise to say, Fantasy was doing abysmally. And that number is what he reported. Would have the check archives.

>>55286502
Desert legions keyword in the Tomb king 2017 compendium.

>>55286706
I saw that and hope to God that is the case

>>55282373
when will elven manlets ever learn

>>55286463
That would be some pretty awesome scenery desu

>>55286088
No. If you have to pick between them, Riggers are always better choice.

>>55276477
Why don't they just remaster the freeguild guard models and any other old ones and make a variety of bits packs that you can use to customize them for different realms.

Seems simple enough to me.

>>55278698
u repled tho

>>55286949
Do you have any idea how much it costs and how long it takes to make plastic models and their molds? Thats not simple.

>>55285948
Don't even shade white. Just paint light grey and highlight in pure white.

>>55286746
Good question, honestly. I was hoping stormcast would let my dudes be cool like normal people. Alas.

>>55286979
The fuck? GW have made updated kits for units countless times before. They do this every single time they make a new kit. It's not that fucking hard. They only have to redo perhaps two kits, freeguild guard and handgunners.

The rest are relatively modern sculpts and perfectly compatible with AoS.

>>55286463
When is the nurgle tome coming?

>>55286824
k, cos i got 200 points spare in my list, so i guess my best bet would be to just get rid of one of the heroes so i can get more riggers.

though the important question is which one... (got one of each in my list so either the navigator or the endrinmaster.)

or i can get allies like bombers/copters or irondrakes.

>>55287102
Yeh pal theyre going to devote huge amounts of time, development resources and money, not to mention disrupt their release schedule to make a pretty decent kit slightly better? With no assurance of significant increased sales? Why?

>>55287224
Nurgle codex in a couple weeks. Battletome Im not sure there is one coming. All I know is allegiance abilities are in blightwar.

Did you not read any of my posts saying I wasnt part of the studio?

>>55287283
No, I can't read

>>55270633
>Mark: Depends on what I am going up against

You didn't even listen from last time.

>>55287224
Sooner than later, probably right after the death guard release

Blightwar is a new starter and every starter army should get a Battletome

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>>55287571

So what you are saying is that stormcast are gonna get a battletome and nurgle will have to wait 2 or 3 years.......

oh happy days...?

>>55287571
Whens the death guard release?

>>55287615
september

Does anyone have the nurgle allegiance from blightwar?

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>>55287640

>>55287669
Many thanks. I take it there weren't artifacts and command abilities a la the ghb included?

Really bummed that mixed skaven armies are no longer viable, as someone who's played since fantasy I have quite a few clanrats and stormvermin lying about

The new skyre allegiance looks interesting , although some abilities (brass orb) are completely worthless. I hope they bring back mixed skaven forces but here is my 2k point list, what do you guys think?
**Alliegance:** Clan Skrye

**+ Leader +**

**Arch-warlock [140pts]**
- Esoteric warp resonator, scavenger

**Warlock Engineer [100pts]**
- whatever artifact let's him buff a unit but they take d3 mortal wounds

**+ Behemoth +**

**Doomwheel [140pts]**

**+ Artillery +**

**Warp Lightning Cannon [180pts]**

**Warp Lightning Cannon [180pts]**

**Warplock Jezzails [140pts]:** 3 Warplock Jezzails

**+ Battleline +**

**Stormfields [300pts]:** 3 Stormfields w/ warpfire throwers

**Stormfields [300pts]:** 3 Stormfields w/ shock gauntlets

**Stormfields [300pts]:** 3 Stormfields w/ratling guns


Warp-grinder Weapon Team [100pts]

Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team [60pts]

Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team [60pts]

Side question; anyone play path to glory? My skyre war and is undefeated and my lgs is getting salty

What's a good counter to stormfiends and rat ogres?

>>55287245
To coincide with a battletome release were it applicable. A lot of people hate the current tights look on them. Shut the fuck up with your overdramatic bullshit. The whole point was to delve into a hypothetical free peoples release. Read context nigga

>>55287914
You asked a question and made statements about it being 'simple', I told you why it wasnt simple. Nothing to do with context unless your context is 'dont hurt my feelings I want to play pretend and ignore reality'

>>55287596
No, that's not at all what I am saying. How can you even reach that conclusion from what I said?

Both armies in the starter will have battletomes.
Stormcast already have one.
Nurgle will get one soon.

>>55287798
Theyre not in the GHB

I dont have Blightwar (yet) but it wouldn't make sense to put CT/A in there because the only heroes are special characters.

>>55288005

I was making a joke as stormcast already got 2 battletomes.

Sorry if that wasn't clear enough

>>55281263
Only mounts are mentioned. Shit like the squig, the hawk or the fleshhound are fine.

How viable is a spiderfang grots - centric army? The venom clan box tempts me.

>>55288112
I think they could be good. They spit mortal wounds like nobody's business.

But I'm unsure how fun they'd be to play, considering the amount of units available in that army.

Hows my sylvaneth list look? Is there much i can do to improve it, or am i good?

++ Pitched Battle (2,000) (Alliance: Sylvaneth) [2000pts] ++

+ Leader/Behemoth +

Drycha Hamadreth [280pts]

Spirit of Durthu [400pts]

Treelord Ancient [300pts]

+ Battleline +

2x10 Dryads [200pts]

5 Tree-Revenants [80pts]

5 Tree-Revenants [80pts]

+ Other +

3 Kurnoth Hunters [220pts]

3 Kurnoth Hunters [220pts]

3 Kurnoth Hunters [220pts]

++ Total: [2000pts] ++

Im hopping between the treelord and duurthu being my warlord, but i can figure that out later

>>55288137
What are your hunters armed with, what traits and artifacts are you taking? What about spells?

These things are important anon

>>55288112
>>55288137
Their problem is they may apit out mortals, but its only in melee, and even thoigh theyre quick, a lot of armkes can vastly outpace them and gimp them through strong shooting

Where the eff do I find the army lists for AoS Adepticon. I feel it's like pulling hen's teeth to find current info. Anyone know?

So darkling coven allegiance and with drake riders as allies? Maybe an assasin. Can core coven be any good?

>>55288203
Hunters are armed with bows
The reaping on drycha, and im thinking treesong on the tla
realmwalker and moonstone on warlord

>>55288223
I wonder if I could ally in some tarpit units of gitmob grots. Give em some feathers and spider things to help em fit in (not everyone can ride a spider after all)

>>55288289
Good call spotting.my post even though I replied to the wrong guy like an asshole. I'm not 100% on the names of relics but I play against the damn things all the time

9 bow hunters is too much imo, 6 is fine for ranged support and scythes can be so devastating In a wyldwood

I would take the healspell over the reaping, although it absolutely males sense on Drycha. In my experience sylvaneth are a synergistic defensive army. Plus keeping durthu alive will ruin your opponents day (he draws A LOT of firepower)

Treesong moves the woods right? Completely fucking worthless if that's the spell.im thinking of. If it's the summon woods spell then it is good

What do realmwalker and moonstone do?

My friend typically takes the +2 to cast relic and gnarled warrior to beat keep his general alive.

That +2 is fucking devastating sometimes

>>55287881
Brass or can one hit archaon.

>>55287881
Ditch all the teams and ally in a verminlord deceiver for maximum glory and teleporting

>>55288444
I'd still need an extra 100 points for the deciever m8

>>55288419
Fun as that would be, I'd probably take it if it was a 5+ and not one use only

5+ and if you fail it's gone forever would be sweet but as it stands (especially with my dice rolling) I'd get it.once every 100 games

>>55288402
Realmwalker adds 2 to the generals navigate realmroots, making it a 4+ to get a free move after teleporting to a wildwood, and moonstone is a one timw use get the fuck outta dodge teleport to anywhere on the battlefield more than 4" away from enemies.
Treesong is the one that moves the wopds, and i think if i went with a kurnoth with scythes it would be a decent shunt for them, since they move with it and it says nothing about not being able to charge afterwords. If it really is bad though, id switch that with regrowth for keeping duurthu healthy

>>55288272
Bumping, pls tg

r8 me m8
The only question -- where i can obtain additional Crypt Ghoul torso and legs?


Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts

Leaders
Varghulf Courtier (160)
Crypt Ghast Courtier (80)

Battleline
20 x Crypt Ghouls (200)
10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)
3 x Crypt Horrors (160)
- Flesh Eater Courts Battleline (Crypt Haunter Courtier General)

Behemoths
Terrorgheist (300)

Total: 1000/1000

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>>55288531
>netlisting

>>55286463
I get you, I never subscribed to the evil corp thing. Some moves were dickish or misguided but the whole malicious conspiracy was always bullshit.

I don't have issues with rumormongers, but anything a reliable rumormonger says will be abused as gospel truth by people. And on on not anon forums it will turn into a cult of personality around the monger in question.

>>55288606
Thats why I post here. I hate circlejerking on forums. Here you can tell someone theyre wrong and a fucking moron.

99% of rumors you see on forums are educated guesses. There are people here I know leak info to their friends, so likely rumormongers are all FLGS owners or are hearing their rumors second or third hand.

>>55288513
Something that I completely glossed over with Treesong is that it automatically activates Roused by Magic on the Wyldwood.
Moving the trees is secondary to getting another slightly harder to cast Awakening the Woods. That spell can completely wreck armies if your Wyldwood placement is on point.

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>>55288838
>All this talk and chatting
>Yet we still know nothing about greenskinz future

>>55288932
There will always be orcs.

Or orruks.

>>55286090
>some suits actually complaining about the discounts despite Rountree making GW have its most profitable year ever

Fucking kikes never learn

>>55288585
Is there some kind of faux pas I'm not aware of with "netlisting" - this hobby is expensive as fuck the last thing I need is to buy and paint a 2k list and find put its garbo.

>>55289313
Yes. Unless you know your local group is extra-competitve bunch of cunts bringing a WAAC netlist to table is considered rude.

>>55289280
But I mean greenskinz as a faction with a greenskinz keyword mate. See? They are so irrelevant you don't even remember they are a separate faction