Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>55266684
I'm guessing chaos is going to get access to neat necron things unavailable to necrons themselves.

Will Tau ever be good again in 8e?

Repostan because thread change.

Is two Dunecrawlers enough serious anti-tank weaponry for a 2k match or should I pick up another SC box and go for three? Normally armies tend to drop a couple vehicles into a list rather than main them here, but they're usually Land Raiders or Leviathan Dreads or similar big smashy things.
Admech seems to only really have this one option for anti-tank, which is basically about 2.5 lascannons. I can't help but feel that despite energy shields and stubbers Dunecrawlers aren't quite on the level of las-preds which IIRC are only about 40 more points and have more gun. Maybe I should supplement my 'Crawlers with some Ballistarii lascannon?

>>55266710
What a nice deduction based purely on your ass

>>55266721
It's happened before. Deathwatch got xenophase swords.

Someone tell me the major changes in 8th

Tell me 40kg, are there any female Guard models that aren't garbage tier? I want to run a lot of 10 as Acolytes to roll with Greyfax. Intending to kit the squad 50-50 Storm Bolters and Plasma Guns.
I know Victoria Minis does a bunch of okay-ish stuff, but the scale always seemed a little too small so I was wondering if there was anything better out there.

Why shouldn't I take lascannon hwt over mortars as a.m.?

>>55266714
No.

They're hated viscerally by a lot of the fanbase, including the playtesters, and their playstyle makes for very unfun games if they're too strong. Unfun games drive away new players ergo GW is especially cautious with letting Tau get gud ergo they listen to the playtesters closely regarding Tau balance ergo Tau get deservedly SHAT UPON for how fucking bullshit they were in 7th.

>>55266735
>unavailable to necrons themselves
?????

>>55266738
It would be easier to list the things that didn't change. Just go read the rulebook, it's only got like 15 relevant pages.

>>55266748
Necron version is just a power sword compared to the reroll invun of the xenophase sword.

>>55266746
Entirely different uses.

>>55266746
Are you retarded, those weapons have nothing in common.

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Feedback on a list would be appreciated lads; its really just a case of me adding a 500 pointish Vanguard detachment to my tentative 1000 Primaris list, but it does look like it’ll be fun and help with the current lack of anti armor. The Cataphractii captain will be modelled and painting up in Legion of the Damned colours too for fluffy fun and Eversors are just neat.

1500 point force

Outrider Detachment, White Scars Tactics

Primaris Librarian with Force Sword and Stormseer Hood

Contemptor Dread with Multimelta and Storm Bolter +CCW

Inceptors with Assault Bolters x 3

Inceptors with Assault Bolters x 3

Inceptors with Assault Bolters x 3

Hellblasters with Plasma Incinerators x 5

Vanguard Detachment

Captain in Cataphractii Armor with Combi Melta and Chainfist

Legion of the Damned x 5 with Multimelta

Legion of the Damned x 5 with Multimelta

Eversor Assassin

>>55266715
You gotta remember that Crawlers have invu save over Preds which is huge, and guaranteed you've got something in your list to repair them.

Thing is, with the Admech book right around the corner I'd be making no big decisions just yet, there could be a Forgeworld rule or stratagem that changes everything.

>>55266739
Only 3rd party stuff.

>>55266715
Two Neutron Dunecrawlers works just fine for me. Las Preds have more guaranteed shots but Neutron lasers never do less than 3 damage, have more AP, and has a higher strength. Also you have to take into account all of the re-rolls AdMech has access to and the fact that canticles can give Dunecrawlers a cover bonus.

In fact most people I see suggesting lists generally suggest 2 Neutron Dunecrawlers and a 3rd with an Icarus Array.

>>55266747
I can't argue that Tau were designed poorly to play against for most players.

But people need to stop spewing that Tau were OP in 7th, they were mid tier, a good Eldar, Daemons, Imperium, GSC, Necrons, Imperial Knights army would walk all over Tau.

>>55266826
Pure Tau was 5th place in the rankings. That's not mid-tier.

Riptides allied to Eldar was in the tippety top tier.

>>55266826
Riptide spam was broken no matter how much you try to say Tau were just fine in 7th.

There is a literal tranny who started frequenting my local WH store. Take a guess what army he/she/it is building

>>55266843
You shouldn't be able to spam riptides. Obviously they need to reintroduce the unit limit rules.

>>55266850
Sisters of Battle?

>>55266850
Gene Stealers.

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>>55266843
>>55266840
>>55266826
Tau were the biggest fish in the (mono codex) mid-range ponds.

>>55266850
Spehss Mehrines

>>55266850
Tyranids

>>55266850
Dark Eldar

>>55266738
>>55266761
There's also a free PDF with all the core rules:
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/40k/warhammer_40000_en.pdf

The rulebook just adds fluff and extra missions/scenarios

I can't wait for DG to come out and shit all over that Assassins army with their 77million mortal wound auras that will hit every single model in the Assassinstar individually.

>>55266873
But they had two Codices, that I know of. Standard and Far sight enclaves.

>>55266873
>top 5 out of 22
>middle tier
What the fuck kind of tier list is that supposed to be?

>>55266893
Farsight codex was "Suits are troops and 8 Named characters you must buy as a 1300 point lump"

>>55266746
Because a HWS with lascannons has at most 3 shots per turn, and with BS 4+ on average half of those will miss. A HWS with mortars on the other hand has an average of 10.5 shots and they can shoot at enemies they cannot see, and the mortar costs only 1/4th of a lascannon.

But mostly I think you've misinterpreted what people have been saying about mortars, the reason people have been talking about them is because they have become much better than they were in 7th, that doesn't make them good at everything
If your list lacks anti tank or your opponent/local meta uses a lot of tanks lascannons will definitely be the best option for your HWT.

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>>55266874
>>55266876
>>55266879
It's Tau_______

>>55266926
I use LasLasAuto HWS with orders to help clean up the shots. They seem pretty solid, some cold dice will lose you big shots though. Also I don't have mortars for them anymore but I might proxy it and try this out.

>>55266897
A actual TIER list.

With tiers, as in steps, or levels upon which a set of armies reside.

It's not a "1-22 army power level ranking"

>>55266938
Yeah, and in what fucking world is 5th of 22 "middle tier". If you're in the top 25% you aren't middle tier.

>>55266936
That LasLasAuto seems like it could be interesting, I should try that.

Thanks anon

>>55266962
I bring 2 sets and try and have them cross fire the map. One is normally in range for Orders/Yarrick and one I just have to pray for good dice.

>>55266929
Are they passable or is it a grognard in a beard and miniskirt?

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>>55266946
I don't feel like its based off a pure ranking out of 22 (also is GSC missing?) its more of a median or highest mode?

Looking at it like this makes sense

>>55266970
Now all I need to do is find heavy weapon slots in my lists that isn't filled with basilisks

So how viable will fielding Magnus and Mortarion be? What would be good third LoW for such lists? Dual Gattling Knight?

>>55267005
It's going to be so fucking stupid.

>>55266972
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's CWC tier, but pretty close. Picture a man with female hairdo and clothes and pretty big hormone grown milkbags

>>55267018
>CWC tier
What does this mean

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>>55267022

>>55267005
In a normal game? useless. Free target for lascannons. Could knock one down a turn without effort.

>>55267022
You don't know who Christian Weston Chandler is?

>>55266946
Tiers are not set to fit the numbers it's a can or can not tier.

How does Tau belong on the same tier as an army they fall 20-40% behind in points?

You may note that many in mid tier all have blunt stops, that is the hard cap of the codex's performance, where neither skill nor experience could take them beyond.

>>55266983
That is close to the original shape of the chart.
Split into top, mid, low and shit.

>>55267030
AAAA KILL IT WITH FIRE

>>55267034
Why the fuck would I know that? I'm not some kind of tranny obsessed faggot like the /pol/lacks that always come in here and start bitching about tranny's randomly out of the blue.

>>55267030
average apple consumer

>>55267022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IPtLvxO8hs

Is full primaris 2000 list viable ?

>>55267048
its 4chan 101 cmon

>>55267051
So this is why god doesn't speak to us...

>>55267058
Probably.

Won't have a lot of options though.

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>>55267048
get out while you can.

>>55267051
>>55267062
Oh alright it's the Sonichu guy. I didn't know him by actual name.

>>55266684

Can someone tell me in short what is Fabius's role in the new lore? All I know is that he saw the Primaris marines and got a huge boner.

>>55267058
Yes, buts it's going to be similar to harlequins where your list is very similar to other pure primaris armies.

>>55267086
So far that's all he's done.

What's a good highlight colour for black?

Black is being used for boots/belts and straps on some infantry.

>>55267086
He is still working on his "New Men" project while trying to find a way to save himself from the gene flaw that's killing him.

>>55267100
Dark grey, I normally follow mine up with a black wash. Maybe dark midnight blue?

>>55267100
Dark Reaper + Fenrisian Grey.

I just stole that from GW.

>>55267100
Black.

>>55267086
He's the gene-seed guy, he helps/teaches chaos marines to make more marines so they don't run out of dudes.
He's also obsessed with making super space marines.

Is there any reason to not just call my Chimeras all Salamander Command Vehicles? +1 to shooting for a tank and +1 leadership for just pointing and saying it's something else seems really dumb.

>>55267150
This is the reason WYSIWYG exists

>>55267033
>he thinks that he can drop Magnus in a turn

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>>55267150
>F-FW isn't broken guys!

Forge world is always cancer.

>>55266825
>>55266804

Fair enough, I'll stick with two for now. 2+/ 5++ reroll ones battle tanks are admittedly pretty sexy, I just miss the times when every damn unit I had was capable of beating up Land Raiders fairly handily. Can't really complain, we're still good, but previously I had a bit of Necron Syndrome in the sense that I could handle my anti-tank needs with a handful of Arc Rifle Vanguard.
Still think Arc weapons should MWound vehicles on 4+ and be more expensive, though. As is they're kind of pathetic.

Do we know if we're ever going to pick up any information on the Codex before it's out, or do we just wait until the 23rd?

>>55267191
>getting this mad I don't share your unhealthy obsession with stalking trannys
After you you fucking weirdo

>>55267182
Events in my area are debating about banning FW units out right this ED. 2 of the loudest WACCfags came into the Konor event today and wouldn't stop bitching about how much money they spent on FW and that it wasn't fair that they can't use them as they walked away from games they were wining losing less than 10 models put together and attacking anyone who said that it was a good idea.


Yeah I'm triggered about it, fuck these FW cucks

>>55267182
Poorfags go home

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I had a dream about The Changeling. I had up with some super broken list with him and horrors but then I was told you can only take 2 unique characters per army so it wasn't valid.

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>>55267224
>Being this bad at 40k

>>55267218
As someone already stated it's 4chan 101, newfag. Lurk moar.

>>55267224
>Bans FW for being WAAC
I hope you banned guardsmen and sisters too, senpai
Otherwise you might be a bit of a hypocrite

>>55267269
Wasn't me who brought it up.
It's the stores in the area. I'm assuming that its partly because the stores can't sell FW and so they are losing sales to chinaman and those people are still crushing events that deters newer players from play the game and spending money.

Why does nobody play Word Bearers? All I see are BL and donutsteels who are either AL or IW warbands.

>>55267224
>he says while running girlyman and a gorillion assassins

>>55267289
I play Tank guard but nice try FWaac

>>55267177
No I know I can, I've done it.

L2p scrub.

>>55267286
Mechanically they're considered underwhelming this edition. I think they're cool though, might paint up my possessed in their colours whenever I get around to it.

>>55267289
>>55267269
>>55267251
FWIDF is out in force today it seems.

Just google 'sunk cost fallacy' and look for a way out.

>>55267283
Pretty shit way to deal with it
Is banning people's armies from your store really going to want to make them buy from you?
I'd just go to a different store if it happened to me.
Fuck asshole store managers like that

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>>55267244
>had a dream a few weeks ago that I was able to get the TS codex that same day
>open up the codex, same old WoM stuff and all plus Tzeentch daemons iirc
>skip that, about to read the spells and relics because I wanted to know them
>wake up

>>55267299
Magnus the Red?
More like Magnus the DEAD

>>55267304
>I can't find more than 5 OP FW models so I'll just throw buzzwords at them

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>>55267304
>FW is too good!
>But your mad because you arent getting enough out of it

Let's face if, none of you buy FW models from FW anyway, so the whole "why would you ban your own models" question is more of a "why would you ban Chinese models" question instead.

>>55267186
Cawl is almost a must have for better re-rolls. Codex will probably have previews leading up to the release.

>>55267296
Sure you do.

>>55267329
Yeah, I've ordered parts for a Custom Cawl, but I have quite a lot of stuff to build and paint anyway and life is going to be completely nuts for the next couple months so it may be a while before I can get him finished and have time to actually play some games again. I think my Admech are pretty well set up once I'm done with all the stuff I've currently got, though, so I'm looking forward to the Codex.

>>55267304
>sunk cost fallacy
You say this every time FW is rough up lmao. Maybe you should just get a better job, poorfag.

>>55267380
Brought*

I should get a few recast leviathans just to piss off "FW ISZS OOHPEE" fags

>>55267398
Enjoy wasting your money as more and more people and stores move towards banning FW lol

>>55267404
Not him but all my local stores allow FW. Maybe we should just ban poorfags from playing lel

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I'm getting one and you can't stop me. It'll be 300pts of pure __fun__

>>55267416
Oh you again
Go for it whatever I don't care

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>>55267404
>MOM!
>THEY ARENT USING MY HOUSE RULES STOP THEM

>>55267442
>house rules
>using rules not found in OFFICIAL GW codexs/indexs

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>>55267447
>B..b..but its not GW
>L..look mom they're cheating..

>>55267224

I run a Meka Dread with my Dread Mob. That's in no way shape or form WAAC.

If you're going to ban FW for being OP, then kindly remove conscripts, Gulliman and Stormravens from the game too thanks.

>>55267304
Personally I like Forge World because their Admech models are gorgeous, but they haven't yet got rules in 40k because reasons. They still let armies with a small options list grab themselves a few heavy toys or vary stuff up a bit. For instance, if I'm pretty bored of Knights in every game at the moment but I want a cool centrepiece Lord of War for big games I can rock an allied Malcador or Marauder or Thunderhawk or something, and probably make a conversion instead of buying it so it fits better with the look of the thing.

FW is considerably more entertaining when viewed as a seller of transfers, etched brass and a massive pile of rules for counts-as fodder instead of for their actual minis.

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>>55267380
>spending hundreds on inferior material that gives you cancer and needs tons of work to make it even presentable

You're basically paying FW for a dirty rock and then you have to get cancer, fix the rock into a model and play with it. Seems a bit much, and so only WAAC scum buys FW.

So what constitutes OP forgeworld bullshit?
Someone in our playgroup fields 3 XV9 battlesuits and gets a lot of complaints from our resident chaos player, is he justified?

>>55267476
>cancer
I mean, I didn't expect you to be a mental giant but snorting resin and plastic dust? Get a hold of yourself man.
Poorfags truly are the worst

I HAVE A RETARDED QUESTION

What's to prevent me from sculpting my own models with a high degree of precision to mimic GW models and using them in a tournament?

>>55267495
FW isn't OP, its just poorfags sperging out because you cant get them for 25% off at the lgs

I feel like an idiot for asking but how do I figure out the points cost of a unit? My Codex only shows power ratings?

I bought a Doomglaive Dreadnought because it's the best looking GK walker without doing a ton of conversion work.

Guess I'm a WAACfag now.

>>55267404
>More and more stores ban FW
lmao

More people are buying online now
What is the point of buying stuff at a brick and mortar, unless it's an impulse buy?
Are they going to ban every model that isn't store bought soon too?
Full of shit

>>55267510
All unit point costs are in the back of the codex/index. Very unintuitive, I know.
Remember that you have to pay for the wargear of your models as well, though.

>>55267502
If you could do sculps with this kind of precision you would work for GW and have shitload of minis. So you cant so the question is invalid.

>>55267502
Tournament rules against proxying, wysiwyg, talent needed to sculpt
>>55267510
Points costs can be found at the back of the book, bear in mind most units dont have weapon costs accounted for so you'll have to find those too

>>55267510
Points are in the back. (Cost per model * number of models in the unit) + (cost of weapons * number of those weapons in the unit)

Reminder to FW players.
If you have a WAACFag who spams FW units SHAME THEM. Waac is what people have an issue with, and a lot of Waac latches to FW because some of the units are OP. Shame all WAAC fags in casuals. It'll take the pressure off you OP FW rules.

>>55267502
pic or didn't happen.

>sculpting my own models with a high degree of precision to mimic GW

Also if you are this good why waste time to make shit like that when you can do something else, make more money and use it to buy the model, save time.

>>55267521
>>55267524
>>55267528
Thanks lads

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TYRANID UPDATE FUCKING WHEN

SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55267539
I really dont get why they couldn't just have that shit on the datasheets

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Friend is getting 'nids and I'm kind anxious about facing genestealers for the first time
How does a greenie even stop the roach tide

>>55267476
Lmao this is what poorfags think. What do you do for a living? I'm genuinely curious.

>>55267562
chaff units

>>55267542
November you oblivious retard.

>>55267562
SAUCE NAO

>>55267224
>Forgeworld isn't a mish-mash of overpowered, mediocre and underpowered units

Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Tournaments should curb stupid WAAC bullshit anyway, actually making scenarios, placing terrain on tables. What is even overpowered right now in forgeworld rules?

>>55267605
IIRC there's a bunch of Guard stuff that's pretty silly right now. Elysians turning their grenades into assault weapons and a bunch of the artillery platforms being objectively better than the mobile version in the base index.

is there even anything in all of FW that is more powerful than conscripts, culexus spam, stormravens, or rowboat

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>>55267531
>SHAME THEM

we are grown men pushing little dollies across a 6x4 table. We have no shame.

>>55267562
whats a greenie?

Ork?

>>55267572
citation requested

>>55267658
Orks are green so yes

>>55267662
its in the warhammer community website about the nova open.

>>55267666
Well alot of things are green in 40k. But ill help you out. gimmie a second.

>>55267666
Salamanders are also green.

>>55267662
Warhammer community Nova previews.

>>55267628
Actually just a lie

>>55267670
Dey wuz kangz n shiieeeet

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>>55267670
WE

>>55267666
How many genestealers are we talking about?

10 or closer to 82?

>>55267692
Round the middle, knowing this guy

>>55267700
crush them with weight of fire or charge them first utilizing a chaff unit to guarantee a charge.

>get ready for a game
>start setting up units
>opponent see my dreadclaw
>starts frothing at the mouth
>picks up his storm ravens
>shovels his assassins into the box
>tosses guilliman on top
>I REFUSE TO PLAY AGAINST SUCH OVERPOWERED SHIT PLAY WITH REAL UNITS YOU SHITLORD
>rogue eversor stuck to waistband of sweatpants sways as he waddles out the door

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>>55267562
There's a Battle Report on Youtube by Striking Scorpion with nids vs orks at 2000 points. Was pretty much about 60 or so Genestealers vs mechanized Orks. Check it out, maybe it'll help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1saDOU0WJkg
the orks win btw

>>55267710
Has anyone here actually gone up against an actual assasinspam list? I love the meme, but I've never actually seen it on tabletop.

>>55267307
>is banning people bringing in food from outside going to make them want to buy food from your restaurant?

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>>55267542

>>55267735
chances are, if your customers are bringing food into your restaurant. your restaurant is shitty.

>>55267735
Took you ages to come up with this false equivalency
I'm impressed

>>55267735
>food analogy

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Looking forward to Fall!

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>>55267743
Fun fact: In Germany, there are certain restraunts called "Beer Gardens", where, while they do sell food, the customers are encouraged to bring their own food to have a "brotzeit" (breadtime), while the Beergarden will supply the drinks.

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>>55267570
>>55267708
>>55267717
Alrighto thanks Anons of the internet

nurgle get

>>55267771
>tfw super kampfy beer garden 3 minutes walk from my home
Living the good life. Sometimes I shitpost here while sipping beer under the trees.

>>55267771
If the EU ever figures out its migrant situation, i'd like to visit Germany one day.

>>55267791
I live way up north in schleswig-holstein and can't go anywhere without seeing a slime or a turk, so don't count on it.

>>55266795
Literally zero in your list has any synergy with White Scars Chapter Tactics. Just why.

>>55267799
North and West are the most infested by them though

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>>55267476
Stop snorting resin

>>55267799

the turks are propably living longer there than you lol

>>55266850
Well slaanesh of course. What else?

>>55267799
Tell me about it.
There are so many half-polish, three-quarter italians, swiss cheesers, belgium bagels, french fries, quarter-swedish-half-austrian-quarter-past-dutch here, ist sickening.
What are we, some sort of multiculti nation?

>>55267917
Please go to /pol/ to submit your AFD advertising campaign, anon.

>>55267917
Multi ethnicity is fine, multiculti often isn't
inb4
>muh civic nationalism

>>55267917
At least they're white

>>55267924

>muh /pol/

>>55267924
> Can't into sarcasm

>>55267801
Inceptors, Stormseer Hood and most importantly fluff.

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>>55267956
>can't into sarcasm

>>55267801

To be fair, Dreadnoughts pair really well with white scars tactics.

>>55267937
Not if you're full of muslims. They don't give a fuck about you. Scum culture.

Isnt the Konor thingy over now? who <won>?

>>55267959

>Fluff

Primaris don't really fit, in the slightest really, into cavalry-heavy space mongols.

>>55266710
Didint Crawl steal a bunch of alien shit to make all the MKX stuff and some of the Primaris process? Fabius is just shopping that's the look of a happy cuponer!

>>55267991
Successor Chapters anon. They are a thing.

>>55267328
This anon speaks truth

Unless Z opens a lgs, y'all can shutbthe fuck up

>>55267987
No.

>>55267991
This.
And why do inceptors want to be I combat anyway (since you insist white scars chapter tactics benefit them).
You need to be close for smite, and you have zero stuff to protect the librarian so he can stay close.
You have a very elite list with very little staying power. Just why.

>>55268010

I feel like if you don't have any cultural ties to the scars you probably aren't using the same tactics as them.

If Roboute and Cawl found a sucessor chapter using Scars geneseed and all-Primaris men and equipment, they're more likely to follow the codex to the letter than start aping cavalry tactics with their nonexistent bikes.

>>55267328

I only have one recast model and I bought it by mistake.

>>55268039
No because gene seed affects overarching mental predisposition and personality traits.

>>55268039
Anon, the Space Marine Codex has at least 5 Chapters that are White Scar Successors and have Primaris Marines.

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>open /tg/ this morning
>two generals
>god fucking damn it you shitters
>wait 12 hours for both threads to die
>make glorious unifies general in name of Bill
>immediately overrun by forgeworld cucks and poorfags having the retard olympics

YOU
FUCKING
FUCKS

So is it just me that finds it weird Primaris don't have a dedicated assault unit?

This is still 40k right?

grimdark is not a word

>>55268070

>Anon, the Space Marine Codex has at least 5 Chapters that are White Scar Successors and have Primaris Marines

How much cavalry do they have?

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>>55268073
Little Timmy's mom isnt into all that "rip and tear" stuff, anon, she thinks its a bad influence on him

>>55268080
>cavalry
what the fuck is this shit.jpg

>>55267983
Muslim is not an ethnicity, it's a bad culture

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>>55268071

>>55268080
Given that some of them are second founding chapters, probably a bit.

In any case, are you really unable to grasp that maybe they'd apply hit and run and lightning strike warfare to non-bike units as primaris? Inceptors mechanics wise are practically Space Marine jetbikes if you just look at the statcard and their playstyle.

>>55268090

Khan's fetish.

>>55268109

You know I've never actually seen any art of Jaghatai Khan on a bike.

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>>55268071

>>55268093
except the general followers of it, are all from a variety of shit ethnicities. Used it as an umbrella.

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post cool wh40k art lads

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>>55268145

>>55267979
They do if you want to give the lore a big fuck you

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Is new Lucius book good?

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>>55268145
Fuck your pansy ass bluefish.

>>55268153
>Black Library
>CSM
No

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>>55268145

>>55268152
>Sorry you're in a dread now brother
>No, don't be silly, you can't apply the lessons you learned about lightning strike warfare any more, they are for bikes and bikes only, absolutely nothing else. No hit and run, no rushing the flanks, just stand there and shoot or something, I gotta go
>vroooom

>>55268156
>Ultramarines

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>>55268071
What do you know about suffering?
I haven;t done general like sinc 2 months, so I made new general.
It was shitposted by Carnac.

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>>55268145

>>55268153
It only feels like half a book.

>>55268140
That's true, but brown people are not genetically predisposed toward shitty culture

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>>55268145

>>55268153

I can't believe they haven't updated Lucy's appearance.

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>>55268181
It was the first pic I could find that has Tau taking a smacking.
>>55268145
Here's a better one, from an army I actually play

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>>55268145

>>55268204
:^)

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>>55268208
Resistance is futile

>>55268207
What changed?

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>>55268216

>>55267799
Fun fact, i am a turk living in turkey and most of us dont like the turks living in germany at all. They are uncouth peasants who think they somehow became an important shit through doing menial jobs in germany and getting paid with euro. When they visit Turkey they always act in the most ill-mannered way.
I think everyone should just stay in their own country and try to improve it.

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>>55268145

>>55268240
>I think everyone should just stay in their own country and try to improve it.
How's that working out for you? :^)

>>55266857
you should be able to spam whatever you want, riptides just shouldn't be blatantly broken.

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>>55268145

>>55268253
Don't be a cunt, anon.
Can't blame one guy for living in a country where half the people have the same IQ as half the populace of the US.

>>55268296
... so average iq then

Are newest tatical marines(not primaris) (from 6th or 7th ed, grav guns and stuff) taller than guardsmen? Or they are still small little guys?

>>55268296
Congratulations you made a really stupid post

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>>55268296

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>>55268304
Bruh

>>55268039
>I feel like if you don't have any cultural ties to the scars you probably aren't using the same tactics as them.
I feel like you're kind of stupid

>>55268312
Were they taller than Guardsmen back then? If so, yes.

>>55268278
> monolith is just a photoshopped photo...
> 'cool' art

>>55268058
Does it though?

>>55268354
Yeah, everyone knows photos can't be art

>>55268361
Well, yeah. Read the lore.

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>>55268361
>being this new

>>55266747
It's already pretty much confirmed that Tau got overnerfed because of some of the more vocal playtesters, and that this is being corrected.

>>55266714
All they really need are point adjustments.

Make Commanders cost more, reduce the cost of the Heavy Support options to make them less garbage. Maybe boost the BS on Crisis Suits, but it's not crucial.

Most of the units do their job fine the costing is just fucked. I have no doubts that GW will address that.

>>55268216
I always loved the foregrip bolter design thats in this and the Celestial Lions art
I'm so glad Reivers come with them

>>55268373
Riptides are getting corrected.

Other stuff, like Commanders, is getting nerfed.

>>55268328
>Less then
>More then
What now?

>>55267851
he (his ancestors) has probably lived there for centuries or even millenia, what the fuck is your point you braindead fuck?

>>55268443
for all we know his roots could be in shithole russia, fuck off retard
go cry about >m-muh muzzies on /pol/

>>55268399
Of course Commanders are getting nerfed, they're OP as fuck.

I expect Broadsides and Hammerheads will get a buff though, currently Tau have no good anti-armour because it's all overcosted. Crisis Suits could do with a leg up too.

I kinda wish they'd do something radical like restricting loadouts on suits to stop you doing 3x same weapon suits, but I doubt that'll happen.

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>>55268456

>>55268456
Getting upset, Abdul?

>>55268441
This triggers me, whoever made that atrocious chart should be chemically castrated and put into special "work camps".

>>55268073
>What are reivers?

>>55268509
>>55268441
>Basic reading comprehension what is that?

Less then 100
More then 100

Clearly you two fall in the former category.
It's a shit chart, but that much should be obvious.

>>55268518
Where's the chainswords though

>>55268328
oh, you're actually retarded. my condolences to your parents, they should have aborted you.

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>>55268518
>Assault unit
>no jump packs
>give them some knifes
>also knifes are optional weapon

>>55267304
> unironically talking about sunk cost fallacy in a GW thread
> being this fucking stupid
Seriously anon, you are a fucking twat tho.

>>55268543
it's "less/ more than", you illiterate fuck.

>>55268560
>have grenades that disable overwatch
>have a +1 attack CCW
>have buffed pistols for firing while in combat
>deep strike or outflank+ignore vertical terrain
>not an assault unit

>>55267244
>Leave the imperium to me

>>55268543
Basic reading skills will let you know the difference between then (time) and than (comparative).

>>55267111

>gene flaw that's killing him

more on that?

>>55267138
I know who he is, my question is what is he doing in light of recent events.

>>55268560
See
>>55268474

>>55268071
Shut the fuck up and stop crying, faggot.

>>55268071
>t.QQ

>>55267404
gw stores will never ban fw models dumbuck thats like throwing away a chunk of revenue because bitches cant deal with annoying units

>>55268546
> All assault units should look the same and have the exact same options!!

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>>55266684

>Leave the all you can eat buffet to me

>>55268629
>he doesn't know that a bunch of GW stores already ban FW

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>>55267447
>Imperial Armour – Index: Forces of the Adeptus Astartes © Copyright Games Workshop Limited 2017.

>>55268208
>being this butt blasted about tau
Where do you fall on the spectrum?

Thoughts on Penitent Engines?
How many does someone need to spam to make up their points?

>>55268648
>falling for that weak bait

Is there a good highlight colour for Ahriman blue?

>>55268654
I've seen some Sisters players claim they're useless and some non-Sisters players claim they're OP and that they got rekt by them.

Take that as you will.

>>55267409
Maybe we should ban FW from releasing books without getting them proofread and playtested first.

Their models are nice but fuck they suck at rules. They can't balance for shit and half the stuff in their indexes for 8e were blatantly non functional. One of the Tau flyers couldn't fire its gun because of bad keyword use.

>>55268688
This. The FW rules are just garbage this edition, they had almost no thought put into them.

>>55268653
>making fun of people being upset about Tau

How'd your first game of 40k go, champ? Hope you're enjoying 8th!

>>55267531
>Posting on 4chan.
>Shame.
Pick one. You can't have both.

All right talk to me about Litany of the Electromancer.
Is it that you roll a number of d6s at each enemy unit equal to the number of Admech units you have within range of them OR is it that you just roll one d6 for each enemy unit that's within range no matter how many they're in range of?
I'm leaning towards the latter understanding, but not only does that make the ability total shit, but it doesn't even emulate the way it worked in the previous edition unlike all the other Canticles which are still relatively close to their original counterparts.

>>55268708
>making fun of people making fun of other people
Haha what a faggot.

>>55268145
>tau
>maximum weeb
>looking to engage in melee

Knock yourself out, kid.

>>55268688
From what I have heard, GW didn't tell the FW guys about 8th till a few months before release
So it's all super rushed

>>55268153
It's not bad. Just feels like it was rushed out.

>>55268771
I don't understand how there is such little communication between the studios.

Why the hell is FW even still a separate studio in the first place, if they're really the same company just fold them into the fucking in-house development.

There's a good reason some people don't recognize FW as legitimate.

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>>55268746
>>55268708
>partaking in the production or consumption of fun™

>>55268328
The fuck is this
>Non-symetric normal distribution
>'Then' instead of 'Than'
>implication that not agreeing with the author automatically makes you stupid
>implication thgat only smart people agree with author
Please, please stop this.

>>55268771
I honestly don't believe that for a second.

>>55268771
Why the fuck are they even separate studios?

Anybody with more knowledge of the releases who can answer what the information about knights in the adeptus mechanicus codex means?

I just started building my admech army and having a knight in my army really interests me, although i saw that the canticles only work if the entire detachment is admech, sort of making it a bummer including a knight?

Or am i wrong? I want something other than my kastelans.

>>55268798
>Brits
>in charge of forward planning and time management
It wouldn't surprise me 2bh

>>55268814
The only Detachment that can even include a Knight with other AdMech stuff is the Supreme Command Detachment.

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>>55268634
those are some crazy eyes

>>55268814
Put a knight in a super heavy auxiliary detachment and it doesn't affect canticles.

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>>55268790

>>55268810
FW came about so GW could borrow money without blowing up the whole company. It's low rent Hollywood accounting.

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Roll your saves.

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>>55266884
the chaos version of the south is about to rise again

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Bros, can somebody help me understanding to which legion this dreadnought belongs? I just want to repaint it, but I don't know which colors to use?

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>>55268634
this could easily be me

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>>55268145

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>>55268855
if you fail this 4+ save you go in my basement

>>55267100
Eshin Grey looks good, it's what's recommended for DW power armor

>>55266747
Worthless tau are best tau. All the tau tears make me smile, yet despite that they're still one of the most frustrating armies to play against.

>>55268958
shitty gold, shitty blue
its an ultrasmurf

>>55268958
Looks like an impaled Genestealer skull, so I'd have to guess Ultramarines.

>>55268977
oh yeah and the stabbed tyranid head says Smurf too

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>>55267134
Black on black? Are you mad!?

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Marine players, do you paint your specialists according to the Codex? So red armored Techmarines, blue armored Librarians, white armored Apothecaries etc. Or do you just do the one shoulder like GW for a period of time, or do you just paint them in your regular Chapter colours?

>>55269006
if I played marines I'd do it the Codex way

>>55269006
Former, personally.

But I like my Apoths in white, like a doctor in a labcoat

>>55268958
The stabbed genestealer head is a Ultramarine thing, but honestly don't let that stop you. Plenty of other chapters with a grudge against Tyranids like the Scythes of the Emperor, or could even just be a regular old dread of any chapter you want that had a particularly grand day of genestealer killing on some battlefield somewhere and got some bling on its armor to commemorate the day

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>>55268765

>>55269030
>>55268977
>>55268984
One more question than. Is it okay if I just start to paint it (I'm not so bad at it as previous owner) over already existing paint, or I have to somehow remove it first?

>>55269060
I mean, if the coat isn't too thick you can just paint over it I guess
Looks to be pretty watery

>>55268958
I painted it as Ultramarines.

>>55269060
Depends how thick it is. If its thin you can probably get away with it, its probably worth stripping it, especially if you're thinking of lighter colours.

>>55268975
You seem mad. Maybe you should try not getting upset over plastic toy soldiers.

>>55269017
If I was better at painting white I'd feel the same, but I'm going to have to make do with just the shoulder pad.

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What's Typhus' stance on Nurgle Daemons?
I know he's more into zombies and I wanted to add some Plague Drones and a GUO when I'm building my DG army, but if it's lore-rape because he hates them or whatever I won't bother

>>55269171
He fucking hates daemons, bruh.

>>55268654
Quite a few, probably. Just a little bit of light armor gets chewed up before it can do anything.

>>55269102
why are you here, exactly?
if you have such an aloof attitude towards your hobby, why would you waste your time on an image board for it?

>>55269196
>serves a daemon so powerful it's basically a God
>hates damons
Is Typhus retarded?

>>55269263
Nurgle's Rot really must have addled his mind
They must have fudged the numbers on his IQ test

>>55269263
Obviously

>>55267730
I don't understand how such a list functions

Can Space Marines join the Tau Empire?

>>55269245
I shouldn't be here because I don't reveal my powerlevel and get autistic about what army of spacemen people play?
Nigga I think you need to reevaluate your priorities in life.

>>55269263
No.
He had nurgles rot forced on him.
He is among the ones that spread the blight not because he delights in it, but because if he must suffer, the galaxy must as well.

>>55269373
so he IS retarded

>>55269373
That is Mortarion, faggot. Typhus relishes serving Nurgle.

>>55269373
Thats Mortarion, Typhus loves it, he's the one who caused his legion to infected by it.

>>55269352
Theoretically yes the Tau would probably accept them, but that will never ever fucking happen.

>>55268036
Inceptors can use close combat as a tactical choice. They're not great at it, obviously, but moving them into combat against something like Conscripts, Cultists or Eldar Guardians is better than leaving them out in the open for the enemy shooting phase. White Scars tactics means they can withdraw from a combat, shoot and then charge again to the same or a new target. Its probably the best tactic for them, the only other ones that really assist them are IF and IH.

>>55269429
Its not entirely impossible, as Marine Chapters have gone renegade due to disillusion with the Imperium rather than "wheeee Chaos" before. It is very fucking unlikely though, as even the ones that have tend to still be pretty anti xeno.

>>55269352
>Can
Sure. Tau haven't put humans or Adeptus Astartes on their "No Talk, Just Kill" list (Orks and Tyranids are on that)

>Will
No*. Space Marines are heavily indoctrinated and have the xenophobia amped up to 11. Will they make USE of them? Sure. But for whatever reason if a Marine Chapter goes renegade** they eventually fall to Chaos.

>* Fluff it up if you want.
>** or if they remain loyal, they're just misunderstood and doing good despite their debilitating conditions***
>*** Most of the Blood Angel's "We're Loyal, but we sure love ripping and tearing EVERYTHING not us up" successor chapters.

>>55269371
no, you shouldn't be here, cause this is a place for people who are into their hobby to be autistic about it.

you're one of those shitstains that likes to make fun of people for actually caring about their pastimes because it's apparently uncool to like something enough to get upset about it.

I think Reddit might be more you're speed.

>>55269417
Mortarion was the one who surrendered the legion

What would be a good way to pair vindicare assassin with ravenwing/deathwing DA?

>>55269430
>the only other ones that really assist them are IF and IH.
Salamanders can help by providing a reroll if (for some reason) you're using Plasma Guns

>>55268328

>than
>non-symmetrical distribution
>ad hominem

You like Rick and Morty, don't you?

>>55269472
After their fleet was marooned in the warp (and infected with nurgle's rot) by Typhus.

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>>55269470
>b-b-but this is a autistic safe space! Stahp bullying!

>>55269006
I paint them in their proper colours, it helps them stand out.