/aosg/ Warhammer Age of Sigmar General

first for seraphon

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Soulblight bros
What do we think?
Need to see the compendium points changes before I can design a new list tho

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Tell me my rat-bros - is there any way to rebuild an army basing on clanrats and warlords? With CoC and LoW terribly nerfed I see no use for clanrats - only as map blockers and list fillers

I always forget my monks little abilities while using them, so I made a sequence. Too wordy? Am I missing something?

Plague Monk Sequence

1. If possible, charge.
2. Roll to hit.
3. Reroll failed hits.
4. Roll to wound.
5. Add 1 if wither is on the target.
6. If bless with filth is active, reroll failed wounds.
7. If plague scroll is active, reroll 1s.
8. Set all wound rolls of 6+ aside.
9. Do saving rolls for non 6s at 0 rend.
10. If contagion banner was active, count how many 6s were rolled.
11. Roll that many dice.
12. For each roll of 6, inflict a mortal wound.
13. Do saving rolls for all the 6s to wound at -1 rend.
14. Laugh as your opponent attacks you back and takes more damage.
15. Laugh harder if Rabid fever is active and the process restarts.

So Skyre is all plague wind guys and cyber rat ogres for battleline?

Anyone got the leaked flesh eater court stuff? Points I have but I'd like to see the the allegiance stuff if possible

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The city-nests of Man, Storm, and Lizard-thing shall crumble and wilt...Their hope shall rot-wither...None can stand before the Corruptor's TRUE pack-litter !

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>>55046682
They're not plague. They're poison. THIS is plague.

>>55046682

just ally in clanrats

>>55046717
True, 40 rats is only 240 points

>>55046717
Battlelines in allies don't count

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>Deathrattle and Nighthaunt can't ally
Ghosts are squatting in my graveyard!
And I have decided to take my legions and REMOVE GHOST from the lands!

GHOSTS GET OUT OF MY GRAVEYARDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55046597
I'm not crazy for the Bloodline names.

Do Deadwalkers/Deathmages get a page like that, or are such minor subfactions only used for allies?
After all with the allies, one could make a full Deadwalker army, but are there Allegiance benefits?

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Are there any plague-kin here-here? What command and artifact combos seem good yes-yes?

liber and rot & ruin on a plague furnace seems decent enough. Any ideas for corruptors? Are furnaces the new meta for generals?

>All these Reddit Rats players crawling out of the woodwork thanks to Total War

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>>55046902
We've always been here-here. Is man-thing jealous of smart-clever queekish dialect?

>>55046902
>the memespeak is fucking everywhere
I mean, orc players are just as bad, but skaven fags never fucking stop.

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>reddit rats

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>skaven get two things
>players start talking and meming
>REDDIT RATS REEEEEEEEEEE

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>>55047019
>>55046902
I think it's endearing

t. dark elf player

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>>55046902
>implying i not slash-kill Lizard-thing since Lustria campaign in the thrice-poxed name of Nurglitch

Project much-many?
That said fucking Total war Pestilens HYPE

>>55046966
We move-scurry unseen...an army beyond numbers

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What would look better as plague monk skin? Alternatively I could do ratskin flesh and earthshade.

Arch Warlock, 140
-Verminous Valour, Esoteric Warp Resonator
Warlock Engineer, 100

Acolytes x10, 120
Acolytes x10, 120
Stormfiends x3, 300

Ratling Gun, 80
Doom Wheel, 140

Thoughts? Thinking about converting some of the new BB rats for acolytes too.

>>55047143
skaven are like elves

the game is better with none

>>55046796
These restrictions are retarded. Why not just leave it to grand alliance-only?

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>>55047236
The way I've always done it

Clan rats are more 'healthy' less withered and thread-bare on the fur, so for non Pestilens i go Ratskin, Fleshtone, Bestigor flesh, maybe Ungor highlights but who cares on Clanrats

Plague Monks i will always try to make look pale and sickly, so it's Bugmans, Fleshshade into Bugmans again with a cadian flesh hightlight, especially on the tails where the fur is missing and skin is pale, drybrush with palid wych if you want to bother, and paint the sores and spots yellow or red.

Any fur can be mournfang and then doombull or skrag brown, you don't need to wash fur there's so little of it.

>>55047379
I'm looking to speed through these badboys. My robes are literally deathguard green spray, earthshade, and then nurgling edge dry brush. I wouldn't mind doing earthshade on skin, and someone here just suggested doing a base and a wash for the skin

>>55046545
I want to start playing Skaven. How should I start my path to defeating the man-things?

>>55046902
Vermintide got me.

>>55047689
Same, but last year

>>55040840
>take Sisters of Twilight on Dragon
>Give them Myst Walker
>Untargetable dragon

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Tell me Anons, how does one make greenskinz playable? I like their goofy models and retro vibes but they seem to be one of the most shitty factions right now. Everything they do someone is doing better and cheaper

>>55047729
Non-legacy Death doesn't have a single ranged unit anon. The entire Grand Alliance.
It could be worse.

The guy who was out of the loop here. What do the stars mean next to some of the unit costs?

>>55047773
Yet, I think they are doing well or at least better than greenskinz
>Here is your start collecting
>The end

>>55047796
The little suns at the left of the names?
They are supposed to mean "this unit's cost changed since the previous General's Handbook".

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>>55047379
I always paint sores and buboes with screamer pink and dot the big ones with rakarth flesh (puss). For skin I may just do cadian base and earthshade (top in pic). Can I see some of your monks?

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>>55047668
Pick a clan, that is the first step really. You can go general with the allies system, butyou better check the webstore and maybe search up some fluff too, see the models and units you like the look off, most of them are viable now really.

Just realized how lame it is to lose the Eshin clawpack, they truly are allies only.

>>55047852
Oh! That's handy.
> No change for the Luminark of Hysh
Not sure if I should be glad or not...It's nice to have an Elf-approved cannon, but I was hoping for it to be a little cheaper.

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>>55047668
Which verminlord is coolest to you?

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>>55047914
Corruptor

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>>55046597
Any slave to darkness point changes?

>>55047992
Then go clan pesties

>>55047914
Probably the Warbringer.

>>55047877
I kinda like the Techno-Skryre look of the Warpwheels and Stormfiends, but I also love Stormvermin.

>>55048019
seriously? its been posted a dozen times

>>55048023
Wait, I'm not the guy you're asking. I'm just drunk enough to think that you were asking the thread

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>>55048024
>>55047992
This pic needs updating i guess, but the warscrolls are the same

>>55048057
That's a pretty cool chart. Thanks!

>>55048026
first general I look today

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>>55048024
Play both.
You can get the warbringer and stormvermin, and skryre allies.
Its win-win

>>55048094
Oh cool. Time to breed some war rats!

>>55048077
Check the archives bud. Fireden, "Slaves to Darkness". Should come up. There were a few though off the top of my head.

Chosen got a point reduction, Warriors can now be fielded into units of 5. Not sure on others sadly.

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Zoggin ratz need ter gerroff my Gen-ge...CHAT thing! When Gork an Mork get der el 'eads together, you lot is gonna get gobbled up good and proppa by our squigs and da legendary Skarsnik!

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Die human-things!

>>55048221
thanks dude
i hope for a plastic chosen models soon. I hate work on finecast so much

>>55047866
Please :(

What's the best batch painting method for plague monks?

>>55047668
Cover yourself in various seasonings and feed yourself to a giant snake.

Post Ironjawz?

Anything regarding Ironjawz?

>>55048481
I personally would choose the upper one. When you paint them with a green coat, it just would look better, but this is just my personal opinion - skaven already got a very dark theme, so a brighter colour would help to give them some contrast

>>55048704
Anything about ironjawz?

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Soon.

>>55047728
Hitting sketchy ground there, since they are a compendium model. I can imagine some people having problems with it.

Which is a shame, because all my favourite models are compendium ones, so heres hoping GW clarifies with the PDF that is coming out they can benefit from allegiance stuff all the same.

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>>55048831
Now

>>55046858
I'm not sure why they just didn't use the old bloodline names or at least variations of them.

Skyven when?

>>55048246
They should bring back skarsnik for AoS. He seems like the kind of character that's both kunnin' , paranoid, and silly enough to have SOMEHOW survived the end times

>>55049047
His last narrative was leading his greenskins further into the mountains, the shaman showing the way. Besides poor Gobbla I felt his closing chapter was the best, he simply went deep into the mountains to find his gods path. Unlike Grimgor who got rekt

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>>55046545
Soon

>>55048904
They have the wanderer keyword. Why wouldn't it work? Are you saying I can't use my eagle lord with hawks in a wanderers army now?

Does ghb2017 finally give seraphon some fluff?

>>55046597
That French leaker confirmed no points changed. So that says to me we should always go Swift Death, because otherwise it's too easy to bog down our still-260pts Blood Knights.

Is it better for Thanquol to have the Warpfire Braziers or the Projector?
My rats need a new big model and I was thinking of picking him up since I loved him in the G&F novels.

>>55049632

Your optimism is endearing.

>>55048831
WE

>>55046545
What exactly is a pastebin?

>>55050207
Well, Vampire Counts are basically back. As are Bray and to some extent Slaanesh. Who knows?

>>55050317
WUZ

>>55050334
17

>>55050334
FANTASY KANGZ

Could someone post some of the Skaven content? I'm buying the GH2 tomorrow just want to get my list ready for 1000 points. It would be a huge help.. I need points costs, battalions, artefacts etc

Ty in advance

>>55050450
Also for the discount on points to work do you have to spend the maximum for a unit to get any discount or do you get a discount per 10 models (or x increment)

>>55050450
read the previous threads, this has been posted a dozen times

>>55050473
you only get a discount if you bring the maximum size

Does anyone have any Skaven lists they've been toying around with? Preferably something with at least 80 clan rats? I'm looking to put together a 1000 point list

>>55050320
You haven't made it into a grand alliance book. you're not even on the list of potential battletome candidates. Fuck off back to the WFB thread boneyfag.

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Anyone got The Hardest Word story that came out today from the summer subscription?

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The Skeleton king has declared that no spooky ghost will squat in his graveyard and any spooky ghost found loitering in or near any graveyard will be the target of a crusade of bones

What are your thoughts on this declaration, anons?

>>55050948
As a ghost myself I say get rekt you dusty old fuck!

Assuming compendium changes don't fuck it up, how good will Sayl the Faithless be as a chaos ally?
>StD goes with almost anything
>only 160 points
>magic for Khorne
>bloodletter/tzaangor/great unclean one cannon

>>55050839
First of all, different person. Second of all, what crawled up your ass and died, niggerfaggot?

>settra not willing himself back into reality
>Not installing himself as a counter force to Nagash OUT OF SHEAR FUCKING FORCE OF WILL
>Nagash tries to subdue him
>Settra bitch slaps him
>SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE, SETTRA RULES

Yet here we are GW. Getting some fucking smeg slugs and thunder cunts. Not glorious undead ruled by the true king of the undead? For fucking shame.

>>55050972
The King has said that this is due to the fact that Deathrattle and Nighthaunt are not allies, as well as ghosts being a nuisance to the general population.

>>55050948
So, this kind of hinders my spooky forest idea unless I just stick to GODeath.

Is a Verminlord Deciever still 320 points?

>>55051106
Who the fuck is this settra fag?

>>55051181
He's just made his junk rotted away, while I get to keep mine in spirit form.

Get rekt you dusty old fuck!

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>>55051329
Yes.

>>55050915
Can someone post more skaven shit like this? I need it for my skavenposting folder

>>55051431
Well shit. I managed to open 310 points of my Skryre list and was hoping to add in a giant annoyance to the list.

>>55050320
>Bray are back

Just because I can field 60 Bestigors and 90 Gors doesn't necessarily mean they're back. Ambush for everyone is gud but I moral is still and issue and the beastlord is still squishy. Only one relic also hurts, but I think everyone is going to feel that pain considering the price of the fucking warscroll batallions

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New death rattle confirmed

>>55051555
Witnessed

>>55051555
I want skeleton archers though

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>>55051555
Call it in for them skellies

>>55046597
Wow the bloodline names are absolute ass, even bei AoS standards.
>>55046796
And this is just stupid.

>>55049013
Fuck off Max

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>>55051106
I expect Settra to show up out of nowhere like pic related

>>55052552
>comparing Settra to griffith
please stop, Settra is cool at least, and he actually did nothing wrong

>>55046597
>those bloodline names
That's it. I'm done taking this game's setting seriously. I tried, I really did. It feels like the writers are letting their kids name shit now.

>>55047078
>>55047019
>>55046902
t. assblasted deepstriking warpfire stormfiend victims

>>55052567
>>55052567
Anon pls. He's obviously comparing him to the skull knight. A fitting comparison too imo.

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>>55046652
Since Verminus is kind of a major force within skaven, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason they didn't get abilities was because they're getting a battletome like nurgle.

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>>55052567
Skull Knight, not Griffith. I expect the skeleton fucker to come out of nowhere and wreck Chaos.

>>55047287
Drop the doomwheel, get a ratling and a doom flayer WT

>>55051106
God I love the TKs but fuck you settrafags always talking about how he's so le badass xD
I can see why GW squatted your army

>>55052606
Would Settra be more pissed at Mannfred or Archaon? If Settra = Skull knight than is Archaon = Griffith?

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>>55052663
Would Archaon give me his boipucci if I payed him?

>>55052578
>I tried, I really did

I'm sure you did.

>>55052715
I even started making maps and stuff for my dudes.

>>55046652
No and you shouldn't. On the other hand, get a fuckton of stormvermin, run the verminus clawpack and use a verminus Verminlord as your general
Enjoy destroying everything

>>55051555

sheeeiiiiit, now I legit want to put these on bases and paint them up. If they're too tall then I'll just say they're Norscan skeletons.

Now where to find them...

>>55052590
>>55052606
oh, I see, stopped reading berserk just before the sea trip, so I thought that sword was griffith's.

>>55052743
same here! Can I see your maps Anon?

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>mfw I found an old box of black orcs I had before everything got stolen
>mfw I'm missing one that I needed for the stolen unit now I only have 9 and can't form a unit of Orruk Ardboys unit
life is suffering, if I could buy only 1

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How is this for 1000pts? Obviously the WSB doesn't have the new stuff, but I was thinking about giving the eagle Myst Walker and the wanderer homing beacon, and not sure about the Singer.

>>55049646
Aren't they special characters? Special characters don't get a command trait.

>>55053170
If that's the case then fug.

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>>55050948
That didn't go so well for valve's skeleton king

>>55052998
You don't have any second hand buy/swap community in your country?

>>55052998
Have you tried a Bitz shop?

>>55046597
The artefact #5 is insane on a zombie dragon.

>>55047300
it still is retard
you can still use a death army with death allegiance
put now you can also use a soulblight army with soulblight allegiance with a few deathrattle

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>going through old stuff
>find White Dwarf for my SoB
>flip through pages
>these were new and added to VC
I feel old

Warlord 100

Screaming Bell 200

Warlock Engineer 100
Warlock Engineer 100

40 clanrats 200
40 clanrats 200
20 Stormvermin 280

Poisoned wind Mortar 60
Poisoned wind Mortar 60

Warp-grinder 100
Warp-grinder 100

Warp Lightning Cannon 180
Warp Lightning Cannon 180

Doomwheel 130

Should I change anything? Which allegiance abilities should I take and why?

Can someone please scan Slaves of Darkness and Darkling Coven pages?

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>>55053314
>>55053328
no, almost no one play wargames in my country, I just got the warhams fever and wanted to get buck seeing how strimlined the rules are thanks to AoS.

Good news are that I found an old metal black orc warboss with shield that I bought after they were out of production, and after looking at the ironjawz product line I noticed it is far from a hero as of now, so I'll use it as the champion of the unit and build the unit with smashas and orruk forged shields, hoping the build is good.

>>55053361
Remember that now artifacts and command traits have a general rule that they don't work on mounts, so it only buff the vampire attacks.

It's still very good.

>>55053400
I remember when TK and VC were a single army.

>>55050320

You're literally not even in the book.

You're gone, forever.

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>>55050948
>Bone crusade
reminder Undead bretonnian cursed mousillons are the best way to bone zone

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>TFW Kroak 90pts cheaper

It's like they WANT me to take a Balewind Vortex

So the reason they squatted tomb kings is so they could build out death rattle as the skeleton army and have its aesthetic match the rest of death for mixxing and allying purposes? Looks that way to me anyhow

>>55053815
They squatted TK and Brets because they sold like garbage and they had no need for two completely different aesthetics for the same type of unit (skellingtons).

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>>55053815
All the old models were shit except for the necrosphinx anyway.
But you can still convert one up like this, since the bigass sylvaneth beetle looks like a khemric titian

>>55053910
Idk man, I love the fucking Sepulchral stalkers. Had I the money, I would have had an army of them

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Is Thanquol any good?

>>55052857
http://www.dollargeneral.com/skeleton-army.html

>>55054019
Yes he deletes shit.
Its fun to use a vermin lord deceiver to skitterleap him up your opponents asshole and nuke his army.

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>Sent to an illicit auction in a city of Order, a servant of the Soulblight Queen Neferata finds his simple mission may be more complicated – and deadly – than he imagined.

>THE STORY

>Palem Bok is a humble collector of the arcane, a trader of sorts but a resourceful one. He has to be, for Bok is also a spy for the Queen of Mysteries, Neferata herself! Sent to an illicit auction in Greywater Fastness, his mission is the retrieval of an esoteric item for his vampiric mistress. But Bok soon finds that this seemingly simple task is far more dangerous than he bargained for.

What is she planning?

>>55054140
The item is an artifact that she will use to resurrect settra

So, Blightwar:

>Horticulus:
Move 6"
Wounds 8
Bravery 10
Save 3+
Shear 2"/A3/3+/3+/-1/d3
Mount *unclear attacks*
Slime Trail, Disgustingly Resilient
Beast of Nurgle reroll charge and to-hit rolls of 1 around him; all Nurgle units within 7" regen 1 wound each hero phase
200 pts

Blacktalon
Move 6"
Wounds 5
Bravery 8
Save 3+
Whirlwind Axes 1"/A7/3+/3+/-1/1
Heavy Boltstorm Pistol 9"/A4/3+/3+/-/1
Damage of her attacks is raised by 1 if she targets a Hero; can tag along another unit for a free move.

>>55049664
They were the second God damn battletome. They got fluff

>>55054156
I like the snail desu - he seems to be just perfect for casual 1k pts army

So, Blightwar.
>Cycle of Corruption
Nurgle allegiance; seven effects, starts at a random one and advances one each turn. Affects all Nurgle units.
- +2" Move
- heal d3 wounds
- reroll save rolls of 1
- reroll 1s to-wound (reroll all to wound if you already reroll 1s to wound)
- reroll Battleshock
- roll d6 for every enemy unit within 3" of a Nurgle unit: on a 5+ it takes d3 Mortal Wounds
- *some other thing*

Also, Blacktalon costs 120pts

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Has someone saved points for nurgle daemons? I saw only the rotbringers table

>>55054346
I don't think Nurgle daemons had any points change at all

>>55054140

Holy shit, and AoS novel not about SCE?

I'm not gonna kid myself, it'll probably be about SCE anyway.

>>55054140
Is this a fetish-themed harlequin?

>>55054357
Do you, like, ever get tired of your bitching about SCE?

>>55054356
No changes about battlelines like battleline-if for drones or something like this?

WHEN THE FUCK ARE WE GETTING A NEW FACTION?!?!?

THIS IS GETTING FUCKING BORING


sorry, it just had to go out.

>>55054263
They got some fluff, but they're still incredibly ill-defined. How do they exist beyond the battlefield- do they at all? If they're "summoned from memory" by azyr magic, are they just constructs with uploaded memories of lizardmen, or are they some sort of azyr demon summoned in shape given to them by slann?

>>55054304
Do you know anything about the batallions and what Blacktalon does?

>>55054417
I like it and look forward to seeing how things go. Current factions are great.

>>55054472
Hey Leaker, got a minute to post nurgle daemons points?

>>55054384
....nah, that'd be Jaqueline Carey. Holy shit, now i want her to write a darkling coven story...

>>55053400
>old

That isn't even an old WD, fuck off newfag.

Orruk 'Ardboyz. With two hand weapons, or a big two-handed weapon?

>>55054547
This
This general is for people age 30 and older
Children please go back to /v/ and reddit

>>55054547
>2011
It's 7 years old now. It's older than Matt ward memes.

>>55054397
Probably not, considering GW keeps pushing SCE's almost like the entire game is about the space marines and nothing else.

>Neave Blacktalon will never step on your balls with her Sigmarite heels
>Angharad Brightshield will never smother you with her massive Stormcast titties

>>55054654
actually it's 2010 kit

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>>55054687
Not much point in living desu

>>55054472
Blacktalon is in >>55054156
Stream wasn't very clear on the battalions:
SCE battalion costs 160, grants a 5" repositioning in the hero phase to 'something' (might be one unit, might be the entire battalion) and one other rule.
Nurgle battalion grants rerolls of 1s to 'something' (hit, wound, save?) wo Nurgle units within 7". 180pts.
Both battalions have also a second ability that didn't get discussed.

>>55054542
see >>55048094

>>55054715
Thanks. Now I need to know what the batallion requires.

>>55053552
really? oh, i didn't know that.
cool. i guess.

>>55046597
With the new Soulblight rules, I'm picking up my first AoS army again (though I'm abandoning the Varghulf and throwing a vampire lord on my Terrorgheist).

What are some good conversions for Fell Bats and Bat Swarms? I like the units but not the models. Are they salvageable? I'm not shy of some green stuff work or spending more to get better looking models.

I'm also converting two boxes of Bretonnian Knights and some female vampires with Dragon Blades to get my Blood Knights.

>>55054740
- Neave Blacktalon
- Vanguard Hunters x1
- Vanguard-Raptors (either variant) x1
- Vanguard-Palladors x1
- Aetherwings x1

- Horticulus Slimux
- Plague Drones x1
- Plague Bearers x1
- Nurglings x1

>>55054786
Basically every soulblight model is old ugly shit
Luckly loads of stuff can be made into a vampire easily
Kitbash everything
t. Soulblight player with literally no standard models

>>55054796
Thank you so much!

Though it makes no sense that beast of nurgle isn't in the batallion. Horticulus Slimux buffs them afterall. Hm.

>>55054825

Saving them for the big Nurgle daemon release along with the new Great Unclean One/Ku'grath.

>>55054825
People have speculated that there'll be a plastic beast kit in the near future. Tzeentch got his shit in AoS after 40k was done with their Tzeentch release, so we might get something similar. Remember, the Lord of Change and such were also a AoS release first.

>>55046597
Swift death seems like the clear battleline choice or am I missing something?

>>55054902
Bloodline*

Which faction is the biggest winner in your opinion? Seraphon got some serious buffing! I'm playing with Sylvaneth and wanderers. Imo Sylvaneth got a slight nerf, but wanderers got all sorts nice things. I'll probably run games with either Sylvaneth or wanderer allegiance since they seem to work well together.

>>55054633
Two weapons.
The extra attack is better. It's only -1 rend, and too much shit ignores that.

>>55054902
I could see some use for Necromantic on occasion, but, yeah, Swift Death is probably the best overall choice.

>>55054547
> le mah here since 200(whatever)
> Reeeeee newfags get out lel
You pieces of shit are as bad as, if not worse than, the summerfags. It's a fucking anonymous board you fuck. No one gives a shit how long you SAY you were here. Christ how much do you want make believe internet points?

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>>55054919
Fyreslayers got an amazing battle trait and seriously strong command traits. Their relics are kinda meh bar the throwing axe, but the other shit makes up for it and the substantial price cuts across the board are neat as well.

>>55054943
>>55054902
Since vargheists can be battleline now I could see going dragon warriors if you go heavy that way instead of blood knights

>>55054969
Are they competitive now?

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Aye!
Could someone post all the night gobbo memes please?

>>55055017
I wouldn't know, I don't play competetive, but Ur-gold Runes covers some of their weaknesses quite neatly and the price cut means you can bring a lot more stuff. At 2k I can fit in a lot more shit.

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Best way to make your models compatible both with AoS and WHFB?

>>55055116
It's hip to be square.

>>55055124
Aesthetically I much prefer round bases, all other games nowadays use them.

Is there some kind of square base insert for round bases?

>>55055116
Magnetize the bases.

I hope you have a low body count army.

>>55055133
You could always have a small base for the feet that are magnetised to make them easy to swap between bases.

>>55055151
>>55055136
I guess it would be easier to just buy a specific army for AoS then. I wouldn't even use the same army list anyway.

>>55053095
Spellweavers are 20 points cheaper now, so you actually have 80 points to spare.

>>55054397

I have no idea what you're talking about, I've personally never posted about them.

My complaint is that, until now, almost every AoS novel has been about SCE.
I'm just hopeful to read something different.

>>55055326
Sounds like the solution is to not read AoS novels.

anyone have slaves to darkness command trait and artifacts?
i see the chaos ones but not the StD

>>55054919
For Chaos probably Slaves, or maybe Moulder despite not even getting any alliance rules

Really sad Deathrattle got nothing, i've got about 1000 pts of it painted up i was ready to get it on the board again having only played 4 games, but now I've kinda lost interest

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Guys, I'm torn by indecision

I don't know what race to start a Skirmish with

If Seraphon, or Sylvaneth

I already have decent forces of Kharadron, Ironjawz and Deathrattle.

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For convenience's sake, all leaked allegiance abilities so far.

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>path to glory and skirmish are perfect for small little warbands for people not wanting to spend a lot of money
>FW sees this
>"Hmmm guys should we spend ten minutes to write some quick tables on Microsoft Excel so that people can use our Fantasy models in these games and advertise it on our site for easy profit?"
>"Fuck that here is some more Horus Heresy shoulder pads"

I hope GW is absolutely reaming FW's ass now that Bligh isn't there anymore. They need to be put to work and actually DO THINGS

>>55055887
>no StD

>>55055887
you have 2x skaven pestilens

can we get a pic of order?

>>55055914
>you have 2x skaven pestilens
That's because they are the best clan

>>55055887
you should add the battalions

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>no aelves for years

Realms of shadow and light revealed when?

>>55055913
>>55055914
Shit, mixed up Pestilens and StD. Anyone got Slaves on hand? Cant be arsed to thrawl the last few threads.

>>55055326
Not all of them. The Fyreslayer and Treefolk story collections scarcely have SCE.

There are also many short stories that have no SCE. For example, Daemon of the Deep.

>>55056073
Hopefully soon.

t. a grot player

>>55056073
Can't wait for the simply incredible malekith reveal :')

>Neferata is called the Lady of Mysterious
>She is a mistress of a vast spy network that stretch across the realms collecting information, knowledge, and secrets

Since when did Neferata care about spying? She is a party girl.

>>55056143
You act as though the spotlight of the book won't be stolen by Stormcast fagternals by the second chapter.

>>55056167
>nef doing stuff
>vampire stuff
>pulling mortal strings from the shadows
>OH SHIT ITS SIGMARS CHOSEN SUPER ASSASSIN (wearing shiny heavy plate armor)
>BY SIGMARS LIGHT I AM TAKING OVER THIS RIDE
>BUY STORMCAST ETERNALS TODAY! FOR THE EMPORORROR
>Nef: "Hey I-"
>I SAID FOR SIGMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>55055903
FW has been trash for the past 4-7 years. I remember being excited to check out the site, now i purposely don't bother because i care not for constant 30k garbage. Man i remember when the Tyranid Tyrant, Ork bikers came out, or hell even the Verminlord or Chaos dwarves you would get so hype seeing the previews

These days it is literally just shoulder pads, dreadnought variants and Knight parts. 30k was a mistake.

>>55056190
I think with Bligh out of the picture, we might actually see some good release schedules again. I for one am so god damn fucking sick of seeing that shitty turd Khornate Dragon that they show at every event like anyone is even excited for that.

>>55056073
>needing new stuff
I have been playing deathrattle, beastmen and skaven all this time with no new models. Still have no ragrets

>>55055838
Lizardmen if you are a good painter.
Sylvaneth if you want a drybrush and done army.

>>55056190
The Tamurkhan stuff was ace tho.

>>55056237
I actually enjoy painting, so I might get something from the Seraphon

>>55055690
Don't worry. I'm sure time will come for the boneguys!

>>55056209
>You will never live in the alt universe where FW picks up GW's lazy slack
>Tfw no FW Ork buggies, weapon teams, Chaos trolls, frosaken, etc etc

>>55056296
I'm just gonna say it: Deathrattle will get a battletome

>>55056143
Since Naggy pushed it on her - all the Mortarchs have their roles. Nef is spymaster/seductress/diplomat, arkhan is right-hand man/give-no-fucks see orders done literally guy/wizard, and mannfred is general/fighter/doubter.
Example in Lord of Undeath is that Sigmar will trust the word of Neffy, since she is amenable to work with the SCE, Arkhan can be relief upon to play everything straight, and Sig will believe he has no guile, and Mannfred is npt trusted, even by Nagash - Nagash's ace is that Manny still is loyal, but Sigmar believes otherwise.

So I just checked the GW website and it says that the 2017 GHB and the like are still not out yet. I thought GW released their new stiuff on fridays though?

>>55056341
They release their stuff on Saturdays.

>>55056309
Shadespire is out soon, and they already showed off the new deathrattle minis for it, so I'd say there's gonna be a deathrattle release with a battletome not long after shadespire.

>>55056429
So when is Shadespire?

So according to 1d4chan, a good starting point for Ironjawz is Weirdnob warband + Start collecting box + Warboss.

Anything else I should know before I get green and jagged with it?

>>55056402
Damn. Guess I gotta find time tomorrow to pick it up then

>>55055116
Circular bases on a rectangular movement tray.

>>55056532
Prolly Q3. There's a preview up on the community, and was their focus at gencon.

>>55056143
Neferata was running the vampire Illuminati in WHFB.

>>55056613
Can't wait to see it end when Stormcast arrive in the second paragraph and take over the novel!

>>55056631
Somebody already gave a list of novels and short stories with little to no SCE involvement. Go whine in the WHFB thread if you want to whine about them.

>>55056631
It's getting a little old by this point, man. I realize you cannot get it up without whining about stormcast, but the WHFB general is a much better place for that.

>>55056577
>>55056532

September

Push out 2 months earlier because competing with Necromunda would be dumb.

>>55056639
>>55056665
to be fair AOS has been 90% all SC all the time. Even if they are good, and interesting it gets annoying when they dominate all the new content for the game.

>>55052654
Whose worse, settafags, or chaosfags?

>>55056741
Stormcucks are the worst

>>55052600
I don't want neither the Verminus battletome nor the Verminus allegiance abilities desu. I want something that will reward you for running few clans in one army. Now you have to pick Skryre or Pestilens because other clans are shit on their own

>>55056768
I'd argue that the people who constantly go on about how SCE are just the worst are, in fact, the worst. Not because Stormcast are inspired or anything, but because they just don't know when to shut up about it.

>>55056683
Sure, and in WHFB the number of novels not about Empire or WoC could be counted on one hand as well. There were just more in general.
Give it time and the other factions get more love as well. Except greenskins, obviously.

>>55056850
I was thinking about collecting a small force of Stormcast for skirmish

I mean, I understand what kind of people feel attracted to them, but idk, I just figured out a colour scheme for them and i want to see how it looks

Also, anyone knows a SCE painter or somehting similar?

>>55056898
>>55056850
>>55056768
>I like the sce asthetic and lore
>I hate how oversaturated they are in part of the fluff
Life is pain

>>55056940
>*in every part of the fluff

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>>55056940
yeah I pretty much feel the exact same

Like SM in 40k, to be honest

Anyone have a PDF or Mega of path to glory?

>>55056884
>Except greenskins, obviously
Life is suffering

>>55057000
look at the mega link in 40kg OP

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>>55056898
Be prepared to suffer in Skirmish if you pick SCE. It's an uphill battle and most of it will be about trying not to loose to badly rather than winning.

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>>55057005
You actually play greenskins?

>>55057015

Thanks Anon.

>>55057046
Nope, just bought few minis to have some fun with paint schemes testing desu. Still, I find Greenskinz robbed and deceived as a faction. I would love to run them as a small fluffy army but they are shit in every way you can imagine

>>55057110
The problem with Greenskinz is that they took their actual infintry units and gave them to an entirely separate faction, so now Greenskins just has unarmored orcs and that's literally it.

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>>55057174
It's really sad that the faction is literally the cannibalized remains of the old orcs and goblins army. All the goblin units are their own things and are far more effective. All the Warmachines were given to gitmob. Savage orcs became their own thing and the Black Orcs became the lesser unit of another faction. Their Boars are ineffective compared to the Savage Orruk Boarboyz. Their infantry loses out to grots at maximum size units. They literally are a faction of tablescraps and it shows. It's utter horseshit

>>55056940
This
If they were a side faction theyd be amazing
Instead its STORMCAST! SIGMAR! WOW A NEW STORMCAST BOX EPICCC! Every fuckin month

>>55057337
What annoys me about them is that Sigmar himself is actually a badass warrior king Viking mother fucker who looks like god damn Thor. His armor and design are awesome as Fuck, and then you have Stormcast who don't fit that aesthetic at all and don't look anything like that.

Lexicanum needs your help getting everything up-to-date with age of Sigmar. Sign-up and start editing.

If you don't have any of books you can also add info from the product description and warscrolls.

>>55057436
Ah yes
The so called unpaid volunteer
Reminds me of a certain custodian

>>55057436
Lexicanum couldn't even make a decent wiki for Fantasy, why would they try with AoS?

>>55057436
>Lexicanum
We do 1d4chan.
That's our thing.
I'm not gonna waste time working on another wiki.

>>55057884
Speaking of which, we still need the tactica for Skryre, Moulder, Eshin, Brayherds and Warherds

How does Path to Glory work?

>>55057884
Different anon than >>55057922, but your pestilens suggestions are also shit. You should never run monks in units of 10s. Go 20s or 30s.

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For 1000 points of pestilens, what's the best general to use? We don't know the clawpack cost yet, but the allegiance abilities suggest that a furnace with rot and ruin, and the liber could be good alongside other priests. Any loadout ideas for the verminlord?

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I need to buy a set of paints to paint up a new skaven army... I want to do reds/browns like your typical skaven setup (no greens cloaks and such like for Pestilens).

Can anyone recommend a good color set? Would rather not spend a gorillion dollarydoos on it, so 5-6 pots is probably fine for the level of detail I care about/have the capability to do.

Some color scheme like in this picture

>>55057647
Well, thats okay.

>>55057743
Because why not? If you do not try you won't know if you will succeed.

>>55057884
1d4 chan is way too opiniative and casual in providing information. Thats okay for a casual reading but if you want to dig into the lore its not that good.

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>SLAANESH allegiance
>Invaders Host
>Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount, Lord of Slaanesh on Daemonic Mount and Chaos Lord of Slaanesh as Generals
>They can't be in 12" of each others, but they can use their abilities on the same unit
>Cast all Command Abilities on a unit of Chaos Knights with Glaives

>Chaos Knights now reroll charges, +1 to hit, each 5+ is an extra attack (4+ on the champion), 2 attacks with 2 damages at rend -1 (plus the horses) and then do it a second time.
>All of this is actually pretty cheap

>>55058407
https://youtu.be/vp_vdo0AFhI

Depending on how rapidly you want to pump them out, you could do the skin as just cadian flesh tone + earthshade

>>55058580

> Paints required for this tutorial are as follows:

> Mournfang Brown
> Tyrant Skull
> Ratskin Flesh
> Khorne Red
> Abaddon Black
> Dryad Bark
> Balthasar Gold
> Leadbelcher
> Zandri Dust
> Agrax Earthshade
> Cadian Fleshtone
> Kislev Flesh
> Wazdakka Red
> Eshin Grey
> Tyrant Skull
> Runefang Steel
> Ushabti Bone
> Evil Sunz Scarlet

> $90 of paint

>>55058436
Dude, it's nice that you are willing to put in the work and eager enough to keep posting that call, but no-one here really wants to fuck around with all the drama and bullshit inherent in this kind of wiki work.

>>55058625
Kek. Just get the brown spray and do cadian flesh as a base for the skin. Then red the fur and do the metal. Earthshade that bitch and bam, you're done

>>55058656
Not red on fur, red on robes. Maybe black them too if you want. That was a typo.

>>55058675
>>55058663
Fuck me I can't do anything right today

Anything new for Swifthawk?

>>55046628

Such a good song.

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HOLY SHIT, GW DID IT

They figured out how to completely render any and all compendium warscrolls obsolete without boosting their points into oblivion:

by removing the keywords for allegiances.

HAHA well played, GW. Well played.

Now any compendium warscroll will need to be allied in if you want to take it in your allegiance stuff.

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>>55058818

HAHAHAHAHAHA

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New and Updated FAQs, Forge World Warscrolls, and Compendium PDFs

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/25/new-and-updated-faqs-forge-world-warscrolls-and-compendium-pdfsgw-homepage-post-1/

>b-but muh tomb kings and their deathrattle keyword!
NOT ANYMORE

>yeah well i can have my brettonians use free peoples allegiance
NOPE

And to make it even worse, I just realized, you cant even ally the compendium stuff because of the allies lists in each army. I don't remember seeing the wanderers allies list include "Wood elves".

Want to take compendium stuff? Grand alliance allegiance really is your only option, period.

>>55058870
>>55058818
TOMB KINGS UTTERLY BTFO

This is amazing. Now you will very likely not see compendium stuff on the tables anymore.

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>>55058870
Lord skrolk and clawpack are kill
SKREEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55058926
Congratz, your army has no useful battalions.

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>>55058870
Battalions are gone

>>55058818
I guess if you play pure Grand Allegiances it still works, but some factions got royally fucked.
That's pretty damn harsh.

>>55058818
>>55058887
>>55058926

hey all im really new to the game, sorry i dont understand what this means for me. can someone dumb it down?

>>55058870
>legion of azgorh redirects to Monstrous Arcanum
>this probably won't be fixed for weeks because GW

REEEEEE

>>55058870
>click chaos
>no more named characters
>no more Sigvald the Magnificent
FFUUUUUUUUUUU

>>55058966
>can someone dumb it down?
Old players have a lot of stuff they can't really use anymore.

For you new guys it doesn't matter.

Compendium Battalions were pretty cool though.

On the bright side, they removed the remainder of the meme rules from the compendium armies. No more shouting 'for the lady'

>>55058926
>>55058966
>censers are still shit
>clawpack is gone
>skrolk is gone
>plagueclaws are meh
Well, you're better off running two priests over the 160 point congregation of filth, at least at 1000 points. Second artifact isn't even really worth it either. Why do they keep fucking pestilens harder and harder?

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>>55058870
GROGNARDS FOREVER BTFO
FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH YOUR SQUARE BASE SHIT BITCH NIGGA LMFAO

COMPENDIUM USERS ON SUICIDE WATCH

TOMB KINGS BTFO FOREVER

>>55059012

so on the link here:
>>55058870


For instance the skaven warscroll compendium now only lists chieftain and skavenslaves, says to go read other warscrolls for the other units. where do I get the warscrolls for all the other unit types, like clanrats or the warlord?

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>>55058998
>No more Sigvald
>No more Daemon Cohorts

>>55058870

Waitaminute... Noticed they increased points of squig gobbla (wasn't it 80 before?)

Decided to look at the new updated rules for email and they now seem.. Decent?

2d6 shots at +3 - +3 - 0 - d3 with no line of sight needed sounds nice. Though the 18 range is a bummer. Might get 2 for ironjawz allies to act as area denial units.

>>55058818

I fucking love this!

Empire warscrolls are now converted to freeguild warscrolls. All WFB names are erased. Now you can stop using fucking misnomers and call them freeguild or free peoples.

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>>55059033
The app or books boyo. RIP Queek and Skrolk. Why did they remove the pestilens clawpack though? They included it in one of the RGW books.

>>55058870
The fuck gw? Was it so hard to keep wanderers keyword? I'll just use the old scrolls for the wanderers keyword and ally glade riders with my Sylvaneth. Fuck gw.

>>55058870
>rename Seahelm to match the faction
>don't give it the Swifthawk keyword
Why? It's a new model, they still produce it and all. You get it with the fucking flying chariot, ffs!

>>55058656
Well theres barely anybody there so the drama would be very low.

Its okay that youre not interested but others might be.

>>55059062
>no freeguild keyword
Guess again, boyo!

>>55046545
Is nurgle deamons playable in this new book ?

>>55059027
Can always use tomb guard as grave guard
Skeles as skeles
skeleSnakes as knights
necrosphynx as a vargulf or morngul
chariots as corpse carts
etc

>>55059106
THEY WILL NOT DIVIDE US

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>>55058870
At least they nerfed the Mourngul a little

>>55059027
>their biggest beatstick is no longer unique
>oh no, my army i ran mono allegience anyways cant ally in other people anymore
>necro knights remain in the game
I think theyll be fine

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So basically all skaven except clan skryre are unplayable now.
>general skaven forced to use chaos GA stuff (nerfed to hell)
>pestilens has no useful battalions
>skryre got mediocre allegiance abilities
Reddit rats BTFO

>>55059152
Skrye allegiance + allied pestilens master race

>>55059173
I'd rather do the opposite

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Sayl Spell gutted too, no more flying Bloodletter bullshit

Man, this has to be the best set uf updates ever, 10/10 GW trolling of grognards

Hey. Can I not use my wood elfs as single faction anymore? Some models have wanderer keyword and others only order aelf. Does this mean that wood elves got allegiance abilities and lost more than 50% of their units in the process? Can I use old earlier warsrolls instead of these new ones?

>>55059255
which models specifically?

what are the new allegience rules?

>>55059093
Actually the relevant keyword is 'free peoples' but I get your point, but you're also kinda wrong. Only the discontinued models lose the free peoples keyword, the empire warscrolls otherwise are changed to 'refer to X free peoples warscroll', all of which of course have the free peoples keyword.

Basically they reduced the compendium down to just those models which were discontinued and had no warscroll eq in the GA:O book and relegated the rest to the substitute warscrolls section. My point is, it serves to clean up the language used to describe factions.

>>55058887
>>yeah well i can have my brettonians use free peoples allegiance
>NOPE

YES. Fuck off bretfags, freeguild are the only free peoples around.

>>55058953
They technically were never there because the pitched battle points were only for the updated versions in the grand alliance books

>>55059235
Wow glad i didnt buy this fucker.

>>55055288
Really? Nice. I guess I can go up to 12 Watchers then. Better to have them in one group or 2 do you think?

>>55059279
Waywatchers, glade riders and wardancers

>>55059064
They didn't want you using out of print models in the new allegiances. Simple as that

>>55059449
No, you are mistaken.

Compendium battalion had their points in the compendium part.

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190KB, 574x960px

Does freeguild or slaanesh have any useful battalions? Are there any armies as fucked formation wise as pestilens? Our unit variety is lacking, and there's no really good formations, but we're not shit tier now, are we?

>>55054417
I'd prefer current factions get updated.

>>55059255
Yep. If you want to combine your wood elfs, you would need to do grand alliance order, not wanderers allegiance. Wanderers don't have wood elf as an ally option even

I love that they've finally made a concerted effort to errata warscrolls and rule that buff stacking basically doesn't work anywhere ever.

Fuck people that did this, it was so obviously not intended.

>>55059536
What's the buff stacking rule?

>>55059536
Finally these fuckin fags that bring models you cant even buy to powergame broken combos are BTFO
feels good

>Morngul now only -1 rend
>Also on a 6 gain +1 damage, not another attack

Awww, yissss

>>55059033
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Warhammer:_Age_of_Sigmar_units

Here theres a link for every warscroll available. Those two units are found in the Skaven Verminus