Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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What kind of retard would buy thes pro painted NL chaos cultists for 60$??

First for Slaanesh worshipping traps

Are scarab terminator parts compatible with the terminator lord mini?

>>54986017
I wouldn't even worry about Regiments starting out. Worst case he uses the cadians as Conscripts.

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5th for CUTEDAR.

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>>54986070
yes

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What went so right?

>>54986098
Listening to their playerbase, lowering prices (somewhat), SC boxes, un-clusterfucking 40k, saving fantasy, bringing specialist games back...

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>>54986040

>>54986117
>un-clusterfucking 40k
?
>saving fantasy
?
>Listening to their playerbase
?

>>54986137
Dyslexic? Poor you.

>>54986137
>???
He's so overwhelmed with nu-GW he's speechless bless your little heart.

How should I outfit the Nobz from the Ork SC box?

>>54986152
>>54986143
Primaris and shit is clusterfuck city.

Fantasy wasn't saved, it was killed.

When did they listen to their players? If they did, we'd have updated Chaos, Sisters and Imperial Guard.

>>54986098
>this kills the remaincuck

>>54986143
Dyslexia doesn't mean you fail to understand what you're reading

Can Eldar become Daemon Princes?

Help me decide my starting faction please.

I am undecided between Black Templars and AdMech.

I would like to make an army of my dudes, but that seems difficult with AM as their models are pretty monopose as far as I have seen. Their playstyle seems to be more inflexible too as they sit back and blast the enemy. On the other hand the AM would be cheaper to collect (student) and have yet to recieve their codex which would give them more options and other goodies.

I am also worried about the effectiveness and power of a BT army. I would not like to start the hobby with a sub par army as that would ruin my enthusiasm.

Fluff and cosmetic wise I really like them both.

Have any of you been in a similar situation or could offer advice?

>>54986170
>Primaris and shit is clusterfuck city.
Don't care what you think about Chadmarines, at least the rules are actually playable now.

>Fantasy wasn't saved, it was killed.
No, it just got rid of salty neckbeards and then rose like a phoenix

>When did they listen to their players? If they did, we'd have updated Chaos, Sisters and Imperial Guard.
Well, they didn't get their info by trolling this sita and listening to all the whining, that's for damn sure

>>54986022
That's a cool picture.

>>54986205
No, all their souls belong to slaanesh and he just wants to torture them, not reward them.

>>54986070
why the fuck doesn't chaos get cute xenos allies

>>54986228
>Help me decide my starting faction please.
Take a coin. If it lands on heads, you play Black Templars. If it lands on tails, you play AdMech.
Now toss it. Look on which side it landed, then think if you feel disappointed. If no, play the faction the coin landed on, if yes, play the other.

>>54986252
Yeah but couldn't a different God elevate them before Slaanesh got there? An Eldar Daemon Prince of Khorne, perhaps?

>>54986261
Because your faction is a meme, and its gay as fuck, and everyone hates you

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Fear his Power Axe!

>>54986051
a bit

Arms might fit a big oddly

>>54986022
>Eldar
What's going on there

Made a 6'x4' table where I can fold the legs in and put it away for my spare room.

>no sonic dread rules anywhere
hmm...

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>>54986288
Fucking idiot. Here's the pic because it's more interesting than a sentence.

>>54986228
how will BT be your dudes? you have to paint them a certain way use their premade characters and use their premade playstyle. How is there any self expression in using a named successor chapter?

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>>54986261
You don't deserve theme.

>>54986293
Nice to know you're retarded. Didn't really have to share that, though.

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Here's a Redemptor high-five.

>>54986303
>how will BT be your dudes?

To be fair, BT are a big enough group that you can tell the tales of a smaller subset of them outside the named ones; a particular captain, champion, chaplain, techpriest, etc etc

>>54986301
Very nice m8!

Going against chadmarines with this. How fucked am I?

Battalion:
Archon, agonizer, blast pistol, PGL
Court: 2x sslyth
Drazhar

10x kabalites, blaster, cannon
5x kabalites, blaster
5x kabalites, blaster

5x incubi
5x mandrakes
5x mandrakes

2x raider, dark lance
2x venom

2x ravager, dark lance and 2 dissies

Air wing:
2x razorwing, dark lances
Voidraven, dark scythes

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>>54986293
Really makes you think.

>>54986314
The sole fact that 40k EC is noise marines and Lucius is much more retarded.

>chaos keeps losing cuz they will not send in nuthin but soul grinders

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>>54986040
>>54986127
Yes!

>>54986340
Because EC (and world eaters for that matter) haven't had their update yet. Tzeentch got done last year, nurgle is happening now. I'm sure there'll be Slaanesh or Khorne news before the end of the year.

>>54986335
>Q: There is no datasheet for an Emperor’s Children Sonic
Dreadnought – is there a datasheet I should use for this model?
A: Use the Helbrute datasheet on page 33 of Index:
Chaos. It must replace its <Mark of Chaos> keyword
with Slaanesh, it must replace its <Legion> keyword
with Emperor’s Children, and it has two additional
wargear options; it may take a doom siren, and it may
replace its multi-melta with two blastmasters.
Thanks my dude, I feel retarded but happy now

>>54986330
You should do fine, blaster and dark lance spam never goes wrong.

I don't know if I'd bother with Drazhar and the Incubi, I think if you're going to use them you should go big with a 10 man squad, though I guess if you plan on having your Archon and Sslyth get stuck in alongside them it'd work

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>>54986070
>>54986261
>Turn traitor
>The imperium is still better at breaking their own rules than you

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Chaos get off my god damn lawn on Konor!!!

So, Chaos Cultists. How do I keep these squishy little shits alive? They seem like they die if anyone looks at them.

>>54986400
>He wants to keep his cultists alive
Anon, Chaos may not be for you

>>54986022
The Angel is back, baby!
The angel is back! Horus cant hurt my main boy for long! Suck a dick, horus fags!

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>Tfw Iron Warriors still don't have Legion Basilisks from FW
>BUT MUH R&H

It's not the Fucking same. Why does it feel like FW goes out of their way to step on as many toes and ruin as many opportunities as they can?

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>>54986040
>>54986127
>>54986355
Hell yeah

>>54986400
It's all about numbers Anon!
Buy these to bolster their ranks!
>>54986036

>>54986412

I'm running a very small army when it comes to points, losing 50 points in a turn or two seems like a lot. My army is basically:

1 somewhat barebones lord.

2 squads of Cultists, 1 rifle, 1 pistol
1 squad of Deamonettes.
2 minimum squads of Chosen with all kinds of special weapons.
1 Forgefiend.

Hence having the cultists die too fast means I lose a huge chunk of my manpower

>>54986022
I put some Tau weapons in my ultramarines, but I am having trouble playing with people who dont think that this is legit.
WH40k should be about OUR SOLDIERS not some meta-lore... niggas wont even listen to my chapters lore explanation on why they can do that and why my custom models should be fair game.
Anyone else has this problem?

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>>54986423
They could've NOT given them to you. Like the past few 4 editions.

>>54986423
Can we clone him and get him back ?
Can we have Magus back to the emprahs side to outscheme the schemer god and redeem himself through tactical genius?

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>>54986453

>>54986442
>1 Forgefiend.
This is bad. Maulerfiend or if you need guns Havocs/Helbrutes

But you have probably 400 points wrapped up in chosen and you're worried about 50pts of cultists? If your opponent is shooting the cultists, that is good because they are not shooting your important shit

>>54986279
Would work. The other 3 would take any chance to mess with Slaanesh.

>>54986422
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>54986453
>hurrr durr the blood angels will be wiped if their primarch doesnt help them
>muh angel is back
Blood angels are shit. Ultramarines led by Cato Sicarius, who is nowhere primarch level, managed to defeat a force of tau that outnumbered his troops by 1000 to 1. How can blood angels fuck around so much?

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>>54986036

>barely used and like new

>>54986453
Oh man totally! I mean it makes sense that each of my infantry teams carries a Deathstrike Missile. That's why I dropped THREE Guardsmen for it. Some people just don't care about fun or forging the narrative

>>54986279
unless the other god personally protected them then Slaanesh could just fuck them up as soon as they enter the warp.

>>54986380
Yeah, I use my archon as a cc beatstick with his sslyth and incubi bodyguards, went pretty decent so far. Drazhar is a bit overpriced now, but he is one of my oldest models and I really like him. Plus he is badass.

>>54986477
Sanguinus will be back, anon... can you feel it?

What army do you recommend for me? I used to collect Tyranids in 4th edition but I was a retard and like 11 years old so I didn't know what was going on and burnt out. Don't have any Tyranids any more but wanna get back into it.

I don't want a swarmy army like Tyranids as that was too much for me, and think it will be again. So I want something elite. Doesn't have to be super low model count but on the elite side.

I like the psychic phase, so want something with that.

Don't want anything with very ancient models.

Thoughts?

>>54986482
meant to reply the other retard >>54986422
sorry

>>54986469
Its magnetized so I'll just switch it out to a Maulerfiend. My plan is that Cultists run in front while the two five man squads drive to where they are needed with a Rhino (oh fuck, forgot that one) the lord is just going to be running in with the Cultists.

>>54986499
GRAY

KNIGHTS

>>54986499

Kastelan robots, they are mathematically unbeatable.

>>54986482
Because the Nids outnumbered them a trillion to 1? It literally canon that's how much they were outnumbered.

>>54986497
no
also source?

>>54986497

Wasn't the return of Guilliman enough?

>>54986511
Never heard of them. They a OC chapter? Or did you mean GREY Knights? You know, a British company's spelling.

So, Daemon Princes get Legion Traits now, as they should.

Which ones benefit the most, trait wise?

>>54986509
I recommend a sorcerer to Warptime a Rhino or the fiend
>>54986526
IW Daemon Prince
Warp Bolter of DOOOM

>>54986462
go play chaos and cry

>>54986494
Fuck, I made 5 page lore for each of my custom figures, they deserve some love after all the effort I put on painting.
Plebs who can only afford cheap shit are the worst and will ruin this game, mark my words.
The other day a noob that wanted to play games under 400 points just so he could use his shitty dolls.

>>54986516
Literally every Primarch is coming back. Pretty sure Black Legion confirms Curze didn't really die as well. The 8th Edition Space Marine codex says that the Iron Hands don't believe Mannus died. So, make of it what you will.

>>54986526
World Eaters.

Renegades.

Night Lords

to a degree Alpha Legion

>>54986538
Are you... trolling?

Cus ignoring cover is not really a big deal.

>>54986499
grey knights or thousand sons

>>54986526
Wait they do? Where at?

>>54986549
Oh shit, I just realized Renegades with wings have some impressive threat range. Particularly as Chaos Familiar wasn't changed so you can still replace Smite with Warptime.

>>54986552
I bet you also think paying 1 CP for a 6+++ is bad too?
Of course I am you twat

>>54986565
>replace smite
You always have smite. Daemon Princes always have 1 power in addition to smite.

>>54986569
I mean, IW DP do have one of the best artifacts.

>>54986544
Sanguinius is pretty fucking dead.
Mannus is also dead.
If either of those come back we'll have shitters asking for Horus to come back.
Girlyman was on life support.

>>54986565
Everyone has Smite
It's the equivalent of shouting BANG while waving a wand

>>54986579
Yes, but I want Diabolic Strength.

So swap Smite for Warptime and you have Warptime AND Diabolic Strength.

Then, summon in a Herald of Slaanesh and cast the fight-in-psychic phase stuff on you for even more fun.

>>54986515
>>54986516
>>54986422
Sauce for all that shit, please

>>54986591
Yes, you know the psychic power smite.

And you can use a strategem to replace a psychic power you know.

So replace Smite with a better power from your discipline.

>>54986584
Can we clone them?
They have souls, so it should work.

>>54986584
Then you're going to be in for a shock. Gathering Storm 3 has a scene where Baal is talking to some BA's on another planet and asks them to return home to defend it. Warp storm eventually cuts them off. But then an unknown sender manages to cut through the warp and says something like "It's time to come home. The Angel has need of you."

>>54986519
No.
We need more action figures.

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>>54986228
There's actually far more scope for Your Dudes with Admech than one of the rather restricted Marine Chapters, since they're a vast and extremely varied organisation that can get away with converting up almost anything to look Admechy and allying it in for more variety, as well as writing a fuckton of custom lore if you're into that kind of thing. The models are indeed pretty monopose, but they're far from boring and leave a lot of spare parts for the aforementioned conversions like pic related, which will use the Electropriest rules. As for playstyle, they have some pretty excellent melee units in Fulgurites and Infiltrators so you can go for those too, although obviously you're primarily shooty in the same way that Templars are primarily choppy.

I will say that Admech are considerably more difficult to paint than Marines, so I'd recommend you pick up some Leadbelcher spray as well as primer, since sorting out all the carapace crevices with spray + nuln oil without messing about speeds things up immensely. I would say it's quite likely for Mech to get a pile of toys reasonably soon, whereas Templars have got pretty much all they're going to for a while now. Obviously I'm biased as fuck being an Admech player, but I started with them and have muddled through fine.

You can always get some of the other faction later, I can see BT heavy armour pushes and melee backed up by Admech heavy guns and maybe a Dragoon skirmisher or two working rather well.

Hmm Renegade Daemon Prince is pretty tits.

Give him wings and a bolter and he's got quite a decent range of threat.

>warp time so you move 24"+2d6, charge 2d6 distance
>bolter is assault so hits on 3s, rerolling 1s

>>54986598
> But the tyranid swarm numbers in the trillions, and they are not the only danger to the Chapter’s future. As the galaxy slides toward a terrifying new era, events far away threaten to unleash a greater evil. A further enemy must also be overcome, that of the Black Rage that lurks in the souls of all Sanguinius’s bloodline.
>trillions
>HUR DUR CATO MANAGED TO LE KILL 1000 to 1 LMAO

>>54986595
thats not how it works...

>>54986022
When is the next TTS comign out?

>>54986608
Well fabulous bill cloned Mannus loads of times

>>54986499
Grey Knights
Thousand Sons
Eldar, especially if you go Wraithguard and Farseers/Spiritseers
Possibly Daemons but I don't know them too well.

>>54986608
Fair point but still.
>>54986610
aw fuck that's bullshit
does GW just hate the idea of death being a meaningful concept?

>>54986623
nids are probably gonna get stomped, like in the tabletop. Such a massive army would cost too much points.
Not to say that Cato Sicarius wasnt balling when pulled that.

>>54986595
You can't do that, cunt. You have 1-3 powers AND Smite. You cannot swap Smite for a power of your choice.

>>54986581
>implying an IW dp is fluffy

>>54986618
Hey nice, what are the base bodies there friend?

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From a scale of 1 to 10, how annoyed would you be if I proxied Lorgar's Forge World model as a Dark Apostle, 1 being not fussed, 10 being assblasted.

Also is there any point to summoning?

>>54986506
When did I even say that Trump was bad? Retard.

>>54986639
There was 30,000 Space Marines on Baal (and if we use 1,250 as the number of each Chapter) then it's 24 chapters on there. 5 Chapter Masters died. They held off 20 waves before Girlyman saved them. It was at that point they discovered Kabandtha had cleared one of their garrisons off the moon and the Nids there as well.

My bet is there is going to be a nod that Sanguinius is alive in the upcoming book.

>>54986648
List tailoring mid game.

>>54986648
1 if you put him on a normal sized base and realize that Dark apostles arent very powerful besides their buffs.

Had the experience of someone using the FW Perturabo to use as a Daemon prince and sperged out about it after I shot it down before his first turn, how thats unrealistic because he is perturabo

>>54986648
Protecting things from being fired upon while advancing up the field.

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>>54986641
Yes you can, bitch. Read the text. Any psychic power, which Smite is.

>>54986648
if it's painted tt quality = 0.

Summoning daemons lets you keep you legion trait and bring daemons. other wise your army isn't all <legion> and doesn't benefit

>>54986623
>MUH REALISM IN WH40K
>NO WAY THEY CAN DEFEAT THIS NUMBER OF ENEMIES REEEEE
>I LOVE WH40K BUT HATE OVER THE TOP SHIT AND SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF

>>54986648
>>54986676

Also summoning is great if youre playing word bearers because you get to Deepstrike whatever you want into your opponents face and you dont need to declare what you attempt to summon so you can summon Bloodletters to Lord of Changes. you can also summon stuff like possessed and warp talons

>>54986620
I run a renegade Khorne daemon prince with wings and dual claws. I use him to mulch infantry.

>>54986662
Should be cool.
How is Bruva Alfasa gonna put this in TTS?

>>54986301
That's nice!

>>54986692
You can't summon possessed and shit. You can summon something with the 'daemonic ritual' ability.

Also fairly sure you need to declare which lord you summoning for.

>54986701
Sorry, no (You)s for this low effort bait

>>54986691
I'm not complaining about realism, mate. I'm laughing at a dude going 'Ultra are da best omg Cato killed 1000:1 omg so power much wow' when Blood Angel's foe outnumbered them trillions to 1.

>>54986695
Slaanesh would be better as it can cast and get Intoxicating Elixer. Though Khornes reroll charges is nice.

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2000 points list, think there is enough anti everything, I could change the BSS meltas for Storm Bolter and sneak another squad of BSS and Immolator.

Outrider Detachment 910pts
HQ
>Celestine 250pts
2x Geminae Superia

Fast Attack
>Dominion Squad 137pts
Combi-melta, 4x Meltagun
>Dominion Squad 137pts
Combi-melta, 4x Meltagun
>Seraphim Squad 103pts
3x Pair of Bolt pistols, 2x Pair of Inferno Pistols
>Seraphim Squad 103pts
3x Pair of Bolt pistols, 2x Pair of Inferno Pistols

Dedicated Transport
>Sororitas Repressor 90pts
Heavy flamer, Storm bolter
>Sororitas Repressor 90pts
Heavy flamer, Storm bolter

Battalion Detachment 1088pts
HQ
>Canoness 51ptsPower maul, Storm bolter
Power Maul, Storm Bolter
>Canoness 51ptsPower maul, Storm bolter
Power Maul, Storm Bolter

Troops
>Battle Sister Squad 98pts
2x Bolters, 2x Meltaguns, Combi-Melta
>Battle Sister Squad 98pts
2x Bolters, 2x Meltaguns, Combi-Melta
>Battle Sister Squad 98pts
2x Bolters, 2x Meltaguns, Combi-Melta

Elites
>Arco-Flagellants 135pts
9x Arco Flagellant
>Ministorum Priest 39pts
Bolt pistol, Power maul

Heavy Support
Retributor Squad 132pts
5x Bolter, Storm Bolter, 4x Heavy Bolter

Dedicated Transport
>Immolator 103pts
Immolation Flamer
>Immolator 103pts
Immolation Flamer
>Immolator 103pts
Immolation Flamer
>Sororitas Rhino 77pts
2x Storm bolter

>>54986645
Those are the Age of Sigmar Kairic Acolytes, minus a hell of a lot of details that were on the original models. Got 20 in a box for £30, which is a 70% discount on what 20 Fulgurites would cost if I bought them straight up, and personally I think they look a little better.
They take quite a while to make, since I have to shave a bunch of straps and Tzeench details off the parts and greenstuff together the heads and arms, but it's done a good job of cleaning out my bitz box. Some will have Thunder Hammers and Arc Mauls rather than claws, and they'll be a mix of heads.
I'll have just enough Admech spares to build my custom Archmagos afterwards, then I'll probably just grab some other Start Collectings for more Dunecrawlers and Infantry, since it'll be a nice change just to shave off mouodlines and glue bits together.

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Continuing my quest for models that'd make good bases for Daemon Princes

I haven't seen a lot of the AoS stuff, some of it is neat

>>54986713
>people hate TTS
why tho?

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Hey guys,

Would appreciate if someone could take a look at my list:

Battalion detachment

Black templars

+++HQ+++

Chaplain with crozius, stormbolter and crusaders helm
Emperor's champion, armour of faith, black sword

+++ Troops +++
9 man crusader squad, all with chainswords and boltpistols
9 man crusader squad, all with chainswords and boltpistols
5 man crusader squad, 4 marines with bolters, 1 with a lascannon

+++ Elites +++

Venerable dreadnought, twin lascannon, dreadnought fist + stormbolter

+++ Flyers +++

Stormtalon, twin assault cannon + typhoon missile launchers

+++ Transports +++

Rhino, 2 stormbolters
Rhino, 2 stormbolters

Sums up to 998 points

The plan is for the chaplain to ride in a rhino with one of the 9 man crusader squads and the emperor's champion to ride in a rhino with the other 9 man crusader squad to engage MEQ targets, preferably i will have both rhinos unload close enough to each other so i can benefit off of the chaplains 9" reroll to hit aura.

5 man crusader squad for an objective, lascannon to pink off some wounds off of heavier targets

Dread goes for heavier targets with his lascannon and so does the stormtalon which can also aim for weaker targets with the assault cannon or the 2D6 S4D1 profile of the typhoon launcher

>>54986730
>people hate cringey unfunny 1d4chan articles converted into scripts
Woah I wonder why

>>54986722
That's one of their best models imo. I use the Kariac shit as alternative Daemons.

>>54986482
Blood Angels don't have as much plot armour, if things go badly, they go badly.

>>54986645
I think tzeentch cultists/tzaangors

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>>54986733
plus all these other things will happen as well

>>54986767
>Reign of Fire
That was a fun movie

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>>54986676
Yeah I'm aware they aren't that good, but I'm aiming for a fluffy Word Bearer army more than a winning list. I'll be putting him on the non-scenic base; pic related. Sorry to hear about that sperg though.
>>54986670
>>54986678
>>54986685
Right on. Thought it was a bit strange to just leave half your list empty, but I guess that comes with the flexibility. It's too bad I can only summon real basic dae-
>>54986692
>you can also summon stuff like possessed and warp talons
Oh shit I'm sold on summoning now. Thanks anons.

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>>54986716
I do it simply for my warband fluff, other wise I would rock Slaanesh or Nurgle. BesidesIi think it would be a tad hard to pass this guy as a Slaaneshi daemon prince

>>54986730
Because it's forced, it isn't funny and it just reads 1d4chan articles and repeats incorrect shit which people think is right. Just like ArchWarhammer. Dude if you're not gonna even try and stick to 'canon' or what is actually written, don't bother. Don't start crying about stuff not making sense when it literally explains in the fucking book why X or Y is happening.

>HUR DUR SOMEHOW PHALANX GETS TO CADIA ECKS DEE FUCKING GW
>It literally says that it was obviously guided there by an unseen power

>>54986730
The fucker makes fun of our noble game and arts, by mocking it.
I wouldnt be surprised if he didnt had own an actual army or had room in his home for drying.
There are no jokes, just references to shitty geek and nerdy pop culture. The guy is a vulture and GW should sue his ass and balls.
People who support him are even worse, probably the same that like "cute warhammer"stuff and cringe furry shit.
WH40k is on itself a work of art, that is tainted by the likes of bruva alfasa and their misconception and disrespect of the lore.

>>54986783
Fair point.

>>54986720

Hey thanks, this one is going in my ideas hole.

Fulgrites look ass, these are good.

>>54986730
just go to 1d4chan (which is also shit)
Fucker wont even read the true wikia of WH40k.
The books? I bet he never even touched it. Probably a poorfag too.

Again with the /pol/ shit. At this point I am convinced this is a concious efford to completely undermine /tg/ and make it /pol/ light because apperantly mods don't give a fuck about this shit here.

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>>54986022

Starting an Inquisitorial warband with an assortment of gunslinging mooks. Anyone want the fluff?

>>54986730
>they play yu-gi-oh
>emperor is retarded
>everyone is retarded
>lmao jokes
Its just a cashgrab that uses the skin of WH40k while getting NOTHING right.
>hurr durr gibbe me the money so I can buy GW on my patreon
not funny

>>54986832
There's a thread on /tg/ that's hit bump limit going

>WHY THE FUCK IS THIS ALLOWED?

Because of female Sigmarines. It's just /v/ crossboarders who happen to also visit /pol/.

Hi all,

Got two boxes of Devastator Marines to build
What's the best weapons to give each squad for an allcomers list? I heard missile launchers are good now, but they seem very boring.

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>>54986832
yet if you post a picture of a qt pony you are instabanned

>>54986844
>boring
Winning isnt boring. Get into the game or get out.

>>54986730
nobody here is giving you money, Hack Alfasa

>>54986791
Well neither government in power nor opposition actually thought it would pass.
It did and now torres are fucked and Ukip dissolved with the speed of light. Labour at least seems to have found its brain again: "we are a workers party? That explains a lot".

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ALRIGHT YOU STUPID FUCKS STOP TALKING ABOUT /pol/ SHIT AND MAKE YOUR OC CHAPTER.

>>54986850
/pol/ not being instabanned for going offtopic doesn't mean ponies should be allowed, it means /pol/ should be instabanned for going offtopic too

>>54986857
Christ, who pissed in your cornflakes? Fuck me for asking!

>>54986737

Put a proper marine in the crusader squads and give him a power axe.

Drop a crusader squad to 5, put melta and combi-melta in both 5m squads, run them around in a single rhino.

Either drop the other crusader squad to 8 (to make room for the 2nd HQ) or change on HQ to termi armor and deepstrike him.

Change the venerable dread to double twin autocannon setup, use him to hold a backline objective.

>>54986872
Argent Paladins

>>54986872
>White Lords
Not sure how I feel about that

>>54986872
Brazen Paladins or Brazen Scythes.

"-" are a fun thing.

>>54986832
Just some edgelords trying to replace the former /tg/ culture. You will notice a lot more /pol/ themed memes popping up, along with some loud voices denouncing old /tg/ culture as "reddit tier shit".

>>54986877
Sorry, I need to step up my game against those pesky tau from my shop.

>>54986872
Dauntless Lords
Sounds like an Emperor's Children successor.

>>54986872
Black Judges
sounds like some weird netflix forced diversity documentary

>>54986890
Brazen Scythe-Paladins obviously

>>54986888
Khorne is watching you, you racist.

>>54986872
Void Drakes, pretty cewl

>>54986872
>Grey Judges
An even more elite even more mary sue terminator armor wearing group of super psykers.

>>54986844
I'm running two Dev squads myself, one with 4 Grav Cannons for anti infantry (though Heavy Bolters are good if you want to save the points) one with 2 lascannons 2 missile launchers

>>54986872

Dauntless Tigers

Ok, that's cool. I can work with that. Anyone remember the Fighting Tigers of Veda?

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>>54986857
>>54986738
>>54986786
>>54986789
>>54986812
>>54986839

>>54986879

Damn that sounds solid, thanks alot dude!

I guess if i face hordes in the future ill put flamer and combiflamer in my crusader squads instead of melta

>>54986909
Damn you, Mom & Dad, for not foreseeing this eventually 25 years into my life

>>54986872
Argent Judges

Could be worse

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>3 games in 2 days

Felt so good after a 2 month lull. I can post details if anyone likes.

>>54986872
>valorous reapers
WE'RE COMPLEX.

>>54986872
>Chrono-scythes
Sounds like something Necron Overlords like to swing around

>>54986924
meant for>>54986906

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>>54986872
Ancestral Wraiths.

Spooky.

>>54986911
>When the Grey Knights step out of line, only one chapter can stop them
>THE GREY JUDGES
>COMING TO A GAMES WORKSHOP STORE NEAR YOU SOON

>>54986789
>hating on Cutedar, Cutenids and AdMechanicutes

Rude. It's better than most shit on the board and I find it endearing

>>54986926
Please do

>>54986913
Nice, thank you

>>54986900
Black Judges were actually the dictators in control of the Olympian sector before Perturabo took em out

>>54986685
Real tt quality or Guardfag quality?

>>54986946
>likes cute shit
my nigga. Would you have some cute sister of battle per chance?

>>54986950
Sweet, I get to get rekt by the most beta cuck primarch.

>>54986954
>shitting on people that plays the game
Why?

>>54986900
>>54986950

Yeah, they were actually kinda badass. Huge Dreadnought-thrones with crazy energy weapons, hordes of zombie cyborgs with massive chainswords and enough gun to kill Marines in droves until Perty used his magical Primarch powers to punch them. One of their helmets is a relic that shoots 2D6 S5 AP3 full BS shots on Overwatch.

>>54986956
Ew, no.

Sisters are the opposite of cute. I won't say more because /pol/ but... Ew.

>>54986985
>/pol/
>sisters
I feel like I am missing something here.

>>54986975
Envy most likely. If they don't get to have fun, nobody is allowed to have fun.

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>>54986954
I'll post that pasta EVERY time you try to start shit. Don't think I wont

>>54986903
Jokes on you, I'm taking my wifes name cus its cooler and I'm secure in my manhood enough to do so!

>>54986954
leave guardfag alone

>>54986992
He's the 'SoB are trannies' shitposter and he gets banned every time he says it.

>>54986610
>>54986638
Pretty sure that was the Sanguinor, who shows up at the end of Shield of Baal and speaks for the first time.

>>54987004
...oh.
Thank you.

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Sisters opens up the negotiations.

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>>54986956
Plenty, but the autist is here.

>>54987006
Could be sanguinus lite

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>>54986722
Well this guy is kind of like a deamon prince. In the novel Conan the barbarian guy ascended into this.

>>54987028
That model reminds me of the old Heroquest models.
Still has too much shit on it, but hey I can tell what it is.

>>54987006
In Gathering Storm, it says Unknown Sender. If it's the Sanguinour he is talking about Sanguinius by saying 'The Angel', which isn't a term used by Blood Angels, they say Sanguinius. Or it could be Sanguinius using the epithet of himself so not draw attention? Who knows. Either way it's an odd thing to say if he's truly dead dead. How can a dead person have a use for you?

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>>54986956
only have this from a thread the other day.

>>54986836
let's hear it

>>54987044
Its from a Heroquest style board game so makes sense.

>>54987044
I hate this Over Designed meme, it's a thing people say to look cultured when in reality all it means is 'I grew up with basic metal models that had no details and I don't like details and definition on my models'. That model is great.

>>54986022
How fucking tall is that elder?

>>54987056
>carlarts makes a SoB for tweens

>>54986022

>playing against my m8s tau he decided to start playing again as they're not a full waac army anymore
>every time his crisis suits attack I play the attack on titan theme tune.
>many laughs were had

When was the last time you had fun in a game?

>>54987028
look at that smug

>>54987071
I grew up with RT models and they were total shit, I get the overdesigned thing a bit on some models but I prefer having more to paint than less.

>>54986996
t. beta

>>54987098
Don't project. It's a gamma trait.

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>>54987071
The details and anatomy is awesome, but it would look better in a more dynamic pose and yes, with less shit on it.

Extreme amounts of ornamental details like that isn't bad per se though. This guy for example looks fucking amazing.

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>>54987071
Old metal shit still have a lot of "over designed" crap on them too.
Clouting the model with random crap does not make it good and the same goes for the opposite.

>>54987056
>>54987025
This is the kind of shit that Hacka Alfasa is probably into. Fuck him and fuck you. That shit does not belong with us.

>>54986948
>game 1
1500 vs Salamanders. Would have been more but I forgot the combination to open my chest because it'd been so long, so I threw together a list:
>6 Infantry Squads (wanted to try out MSU Guard)
>3 company commanders (why yes I was running a brigade detachment)
>2 commissars
>1 priest (I like priests)
Fire support was mostly oriented towards weaker targets:
>2 wyverns (second time I've ever done this, wyverns were super strong last edition so I didn't run them very often; wanted to see if they were more balanced)
>3 HWTs of Autocannons (I likey the pompom)
Air support was also oriented towards soft targets:
>1 twin Punisher Vulture (proxies using a Valkyrie with opponents permission; wanted to see how that heavy 40 performs)
I also had a flank force of scions:
>2 squads, 1 with plasma and one with volley guns
>1 Tempestor prime
And my ace in the hole:
>1 Cyclops Demolition Vehicle

Against this, he ran something like the following:
>2 devastator squads, 1 with missile launchers and 1 with heavy bolters
>1 squad of lascannon centurion with apothecary support
>some assault terminators
>Vulkan in a razorback with a sternguard squad and a LOT of combi-flamers
>a Psykers of some kind
>ironclad dreadnought
And some other stuff I don't remember.

I was initially super worried because I was so rusty I'd brought basically zero anti tank, and he had armor on the field. But then we drew the scenario cards (he had this deck thing that actually worked pretty well) and we drew scorched earth (each side gets 3 objectives, which the other side must take and deatroy) and the hamburger style deployment.

So basically it turned into Verdun.

He conceded around turn 3, I believe; his assault terminators didn't make enough of a dent in my backline while my scions cut though his fire support like it wasn't even there. He used the scenario twist to ressurect his centurions and take a big bite out of me but it wasn't enough.

Cont'd

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>>54987044
It's from (Blanche?) concept art. Imagine what people would say if they actually go with the hair.

>>54987088
Everytime me and the Night Lords player have a match against each other (everyone in our group plays CSM) we always have our lords bum rush each other while their armies actually play the objective.

>>54987137
>us
its literally you versus the rest of the board disagreeing with you. I think youre the one who should fuck off

>>54987071
Speaking as someone who does a lot of conversions, I do think it's possible to get overdesigned, especially with things like that picture where every detail is a bit different. It can get really annoying having to remove random faction-specific bits plastered everywhere just to get at some regular arm or leg you want, or remove seven different layers of armour trim. For models like those, though, odds are pretty low that you're going to be cutting captain McSmug apart for bitz, so it doesn't really matter. Overdesigned is a problem when there's loads of DIFFERENT details everywhere, like Cawl with his sixty different types of mechadendrites and servoskulls and stuff, but if it's just a lot of ornamentation like >>54987128 or some of the new AoS Sky Dwarfs it's fine.

>>54987137
Hey that anon was right. The /pol/ attempts to history revisionist the board.

>>54987058

An Inquisitor of the Ordo Astartes maintains a private army of soldiers, warriors, killers, and assassins for the sole purpose of using them in covert operations against Space Marines who've earned the ire of the Inquisition.

I love the Celestial Lions story, and I wanted to fluff out the guys who would be charged with pretending to be Ork snipers.

From left to right we have:

>Ebor Rught, former pit fighter of the death-world Apollyon.

>Yohan Tres, former Sergeant of the Armageddon Steel Legion.

>Tylo Morae, former Navy armsman aboard the Purity Through Starfire.

>'Dog' Carlowe, former bounty hunter and ne'er-do-well.

I'm planning on expanding these guys with a medic, and then adding on some more esoteric warriors like death cult assassins and some heavy armor wearing mooks.

Still have no idea what the Inquisitor should be named, but I do love the idea of a nondescript bureaucrat wearing a plain suit ordering a bunch of grimdark soldiers around.

>>54987139
Loads of the new models are based on Blanche art, but people still screech it's overdesigned forgetting that it's BASED GOD BLANCHE who designed it.

>>54987071
>>54987096
More detail isn't bad, it's when the details go crazy, or break up the model's profile so you can't immediately identify it, or have individual parts distract from the whole.
And sometimes it is comparatively tasteful to keep a design simple, like chaos warriors for example. You can add to it if you like, but the base thing looks good as a whole.

>>54986996
>I'm going to throw away my family name because my bound hambeast has a "cooler" one
>This means I have a manhood

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>>54987137
No. If I have to keep one part of old /tg/ alive it's gonna be this. So I recommend you move onto something else like '/tg/ never had furries' or some shit.

>>54987156
Really annoyed at amazing minis that are bothersome to convert because theyre full of Chapter insignia etc. Why cant the DA Winged Swords be extra bits instead of plastered 15 times on one hero model

>>54987056
Someone fix this with digital art or something

>>54987138
Game 2:
A complete newbie wanted to try out Tau using paperhammer (literally everything was a proxy, he even used my own heavy weapon team bases to play his crisis suits). It was a much smaller game, 500 or so I think. We played on a 4x4 and used tactical objectives.

He played...poorly.

He advanced his men straight forward, neglecting both the objectives AND potential cover, just wanting to get close enough to shoot at me with rapid fire, and he didn't even target my characters with his snipers. He insisted on playing to the table, and his final model was GONE by the bottom of turn 4, with a 7-0 in victory points. Strangely enough he enjoyed it immensely and said he would _definetely_ start collecting tau.

Game 3:
Same guy as above wanted one more game, so I offered him a game i call Titanfall: one Lord of War vs it's power points in any units he cares to bring. The LoW must start in th3 middle of the field and any ambuahing units start at least 18" away. The game is played on a 4x4.

He proxied two broadsides and a skyray, bristling with missiles and railguns.

I brought my Knight Crusader.

It was surprisingly even. He managed to carve away half the titan's HP before I started causing casualties and I'm certain if he was luckier on the rolls it would have been even closer. I did the math afterwards and he had a 150 point advantage on me.

Was fun.

>>54986022
How will they bring all the primarchs back in a satisfying way?

>>54987174
One thing is on paper the other in plastic.
You can get inspiration from Blanche, but trying to copy the drawing into a miniature results in messy models.

>>54986648

Summoning is ridiculously awesome in narrative games. Konor is all narrative games.

>>54987209
The only difficult ones are Sanguinius, Manus, Horus and Curze.

>>54987137
Fuck off, we've been doing this for over a decade. Cutehammer best hammer.

>>54986648
>Also is there any point to summoning?
For Daemons, Characters are your transports. Otherwise you're running a T3 5+ horde across the board.

>>54986692
>you dont need to declare what you attempt to summon so you can summon Bloodletters to Lord of Changes.

Half right. You need to declare WHICH god, but not what UNIT.

>You can also summon stuff like possessed and warp talons

Wrong. They don't have the Daemonic Summoning rule.

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>>54986540
(You) are really trying hard on this.

>>54987209
hopefully not at all, I'd like to have a decent army without having to put an by design undercosted and overpowered GOD-Model that one-shots Knights. Like in AoS Where your Army can be Nagash and 6 Morghasts and stomps on everything

I really want a new DA or EC codex with new Units for both Armies respectively but I know when it happens people will scream for Lion or Fulgrim Models.

I would be totally OK with Primarchs being a thing but only if they have rules that prevent them from being fielded below atleast 3000pts or 150power. It doesnt make sense for Magnus to be leading a sm0l warband of just 20 rubricae.

And if they go all the way with it atleast bring some Xenos "primarchs" too like Farsight in a huge experimental-Battlesuit and a Ork "Beast".


Also if they bring Sanguinus and Horus Ill be mad because that'd negate the entire HH. Ferrus Manus doesnt make sense because Fulgrim Killed him and actually TRIED multiple times in ressurecting him until he was just a brainless Zombie. He did the same to his second in command Eidolon

>>54987233
>The only difficult ones are Sanguinius,
Black Rage is Sanguininus' soul attempting to possess his sons. Those found unworthy go full Death Company.

>Manus,
Good thing there's an Aeldarii God of Death to help.

>Horus
Abaddon gets super charged with Chaos that he retcons reality to become the Luna Wolves Primarch

>Curze.
He, too, is a perpetual.

>>54987159
/pol/ here, please don't associate him with us. Thanks.

>>54986022
What the hell? Grey Knights working with Eldar? Whats going on here?

>>54986137
>saving fantasy
They literally axed fantasy to make way for AoS.

Whether or not AoS is better or worse doesnt matter. It literally isnt the same game.

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How shit is my Tau list? 1000pts

Battalion Detachment +3 CP

HQ - 241 pts
>Cadre Fireblade - 42 pts
>Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blaster and ATS. 2x Shield Drones. 154 pts.
>Darkstrider - 45 pts

TROOPS - 246 pts
>10 x Fire Warriors w/ pulse rifles, Shas Ui with Markerlight - 83 pts
>10 x Fire Warriors w/ pulse rifles, Shas Ui with Markerlight - 83 pts
>10 x Breachers - 80 pts

FAST ATTACK - 40 pts
>5x Gun Drones

DEDICATED TRANSPORT - 127 pts
>Devilfish w/ Gun Drones - 127 pts


Outrider Detachment +1 CP

HQ - 201 pts
>Longstrike w/ Railgun, Gun Drones, 2x Seeker Missile - 201 pts

FAST ATTACK - 144 pts
>5 x Pathfinders, Pulse Accelerator Drone and Grav-Inhibitor Drone - 56pts
>5 x Pathfinders - 40pts
>5 x Pathfinders, 2 x Ion Rifle - 48 pts


Fireblade, Fire Warriors and PAC/Grav Drones form big fuckoff gunline.
Breachers and Darkstrider go in Devilfish together.

Old 4th ed player getting back into the game for 8th here. I've got one squad of tacticals painted up, but then primaris happened. I take a long time painting and building. By the time I have a decent force do you think my army would be outdated? Would I be better starting a new army? I really don't like the look of the numarines.

>>54987336
This post is embarrassing
>no you can't browse the same board as me because i don't like another board you brwose
>proceeds to make a clusterfuck of a post

>>54987349
You'll be fine. Worst case just make them counts as.

If manlet marines are going anywhere, it won't be for years.

>>54987315
when /pol/ disowns you you know you've fucked up

>>54987138
I've been debating about running 6 infantry squads instead of my usual 3 infantry squads plus 30 Conscripts. How did 6 squads do for you?

>>54987336

Aaaand it's gone.

When are Primaris going to get an actual transport flyer?

>>54986098
> start collecting boxes
> keeping the same prices after brexit
> releasing 8th
> actual discount boxes
> Primaris
> did I mention start collecting boxes?

Is there an army list builder i can use to build my DKK army list for 8th edition? BattleScribe doesnt seem to have any data files for kriegers yet.

>>54987233
>Battle on the Vengeful Spirit will be retconned to let Sanguinius soul escape, he's the Sanguinor
>Horus didn't get fully erased, Chaosgods kept his soul and want to force it into Abaddons body. But ol' Abby outwills all four Gods plus Horus and kicks their asses with his OC donotsteel daemonsword. Then the Gods use a clone of Horus, like they could have from the beginning. This also has the benefit of making the Emperor look even more like a massive scrub who can't do anything right.
>One of Fulgrims clones of Manus escapes
>Curze becomes the Manbat in the warp actually

There you go anon.

>>54987376
I never got being so embarrassed on the internet you delete your post. It's anon nigga just carry on.

>>54987329
Not uncommon.
GKs are actually one element of the Imperium most likely to work with Xenos. They're pragmatic. So long as their actions hurt Chaos.

>There is a fluff bit where the GKs find a Craftworld full of Daemons. They banish the Daemons, gather all the soulstones they could, called the nearest Eldars, and guarded the soulstones until the xenos arrived. Their reason? If something were to happen to those soulstones, the Eldar souls would be devoured by Slaanesh and strengthen Chaos.

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>completely settle on orks as my first army
>can't decide which actual units to use

>>54987307
Yeah but how does that bring Sanguinius back into the flesh?

Having another deus ex machina revivification? I guess if they find ALL the swords and God is fully powered but I'd probably go with the theory that Manus didn't actually die and he was sucked into Fulgrims sword to be tortured.

Abaddon becoming Horus was a think I actually suggested awhile ago. Rumour had it that Abaddon makes it to Terra and Cypher kills him. My theory was this:

>Abaddon on Terra
>Clears Throne Room
>Only defender left is Dante (or some other Golden dude)
>Dante takes the blow aimed at the Emperor and delays the Emperor's death for a few seconds (this is already canon, not Dante, but the golden warrior defends the Emperor for a few seconds more and that few seconds can change everything)
>Dante taking the hit allows Cypher to kill Abaddon with his Bolt Pistol
>Abaddon goes into the Warp
>Chaos Gods use the memory of Horus and mould Abaddon to his likeness, since Horus' soul no longer exists
>Abaddon is reborn as Horus and gets a new model to represent this

Curze is a perpetual? Is that in Black Legion?

>>54987386
FUCKING MAN BAT CURZE!!??
Why the fuck do I want this now?

>>54987398
A LOT of Boyz

>>54987208
Just want to say thanks for the reports man

>>54987398
>Da green unz wit da red paint ya Git!

>>54987398
>>54987398
You're playing Orks, you are now a collector as well as a player, get 2 of everything then get more

>>54987407

That's the one thing I want to avoid, really. I see people in these generals bitching about huge boyz units so I don't wanna use those.

>>54986872
Iron Lords.. pretty generic

>>54987382
anyone?

>>54987339
If they have any armour you are boned, longstrike will do 3-4 damage turn on average, the commander up to 5 depending on the target if overcharged. You might want to consider replacing longstrike with a 4xFB commander as it will give you ~6 damage a turn outside of melta range and save you 40 points

>>54987404
>bring Sanguinius back into the flesh?
He finds one worthy of him. Assuming Dante or Meph.

>Curze is a perpetual? Is that in Black Legion?

He isn't. But I was saying that as an easy way to bring him back. He was killed by an assassin. Only to wake up a few days later, realizing he can't stay dead

>>54986789
Reading this brought be physical pain
10/10

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>>54987372
It isn't all that different from conscripts overall. The extra BS isn't a complete advantage because normal infantry costs more. It helps make brigade requirements but otherwise it behaves about the same.

That said, I wouldn't run it, because it has two distinct disadvantages. Well, three.

The first is that you need to buy MORE officers, we all know that one. The second, and not as obvious, is that you have to take some measure to distinguish the individual squads; once they're on the board they all sort of blend together and it's hard to tell who is w8th who, which is a problem when you start to get shot at. Third, and perhaps most importantly, you can't use Astropathica Psykers to give the blob a 4+ save, which is CRUCIAL for survivability. Psychic Barrier and some cover can make your conscripts into an MEQ defensive line; without that they due much, much faster.

Either fill the slots with scions or go for a smaller detachment, the extra CPs are not worth the hassle.

>>54987411
Thanks! And you're most welcome.

>>54987418
Honestly I'd reccommend 40 boyz, whatever flavor you like, then get some variety of choppy units and shooty units.

>Lootas
>Tankbustas
>Big Gunz
>Flash Gitz
>Warbikerz

>Nobz
>Meganobz
>Kommandos
>Nob Bikes

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>>54986137

I want to build an old school Witch Hunter force. Sisters of Battle/Silence, Scions, and Inquisition sound like a good base. Any specific ideas or tips for list building?

>>54987433
I could do that I guess. Don't currently have two Commanders though, and I'm not too into the idea of buying another or proxying. Kinda want to avoid Commander spam.

>>54986872
Valiant Drakes

Sweet Salmander successor

>>54987418
People in the general are generally horrible at the game.

Orkz were the worst army for a long time by a LONG Shot.

You are allowed to play a good army and no one will call you a waacfag for playing orkz

You dont have to spam 180 Boyz but there is nothing wrong with going for ~40-60 of them, unless you dont wanna paint that much models

Then get some (mega)Nobz and from then on you can pick your flavour

>>54987434
>He finds one worthy of him. Assuming Dante or Meph.
Nah man, I want Sanguinius himself. Not Dante or anyone that being possed by him.

>>54987386
Sanguinius' soul wasn't lost anyway. So they can just have the Sanguinour be Sanguinius. Somebody said awhile ago that this is exactly what happens. That the reason Girlyman manages to save Baal is because Sanguinour is Sanguinius and breaks the storm so he can get through, with the rumour that Sanguinius is alive spreading through the chapters ranks. This is further supported by the fact the same shit happened in Warzone Fenris for Space Wolves.

Somebody said a few days ago that Abaddon isn't actually Abaddon. That Abaddon is actually a clone of Horus which survived and thinks it's Abaddon. The real Abaddon is either dead or locked up somewhere. I suppose it'd be cool if it implanted the memories of Abaddon into the clone of Horus to make it think he's Abaddon.

I don't think they'd do a different clone, I just don't think Manus died. They've mentioned that the Iron Hands don't believe it several times.

Curze is Manbat? Or is he not dead at all? Again pretty sure I read somewhere he isn't.

>>54986163
kombi-skorchas & power stabbas

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>>54987460
There is a SoB list there >>54986717
The core of a SoB army right now are just seraphims and dominions spamming melta, the rest is basically grab whatever you like more.

That said there is little reason to grab an Inquisitor outside of the Terminator, Coteaz or Greyfax.

I forgot to say, those saying the Primarchs can't come back is defeated by 8th Edition Codex which states that the Primarchs all contain a part of the Emperor in them. I 100% bet you that the excuse will be "Because the Emperor isn't dead, the Primarchs could not die". As in, because the Emperor is still alive, the Primarchs will always continue to exist in some way.

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>>54987404
>Yeah but how does that bring Sanguinius back into the flesh?
Celestine died and revived all the times. The Emperor will bring him back.

>>54987444
That sounds about right. Thanks for the battle info. I love me that Psychic Barrier. It's hard to get a bunch of Conscripts into cover with the terrain we use sadly. I usually use it on Conscripts, Bullgryn and Tanks, but I've been debating about using it on HWS in cover. 3+ save on them could make them more obnoxious to dislodge. I have like 15 Wyrdvane Psykers from running Psykana Division a few times at the end of 7th, might as well take like 10 as Astropaths. 150 Points of everything has +1 save. Or if they live long enough. 10 gimpy Smites.

>>54987476
It was just a mocking explanation how one could bring them back. Didn't think I'd be that close to the reality.

Is Soulburst a better army special rule than losing access to the Covens units and Rising Crescendo/Power From Pain/Battle Focus?

I say this because Soulburst more versatile and it's applications benefit more scenarios allowing your force to be adaptable, but at the cost of building your list to optimize the amount of Soulbursts you can get.

Whereas, Rising Crescendo would make my Clowns faster and scarier. Power from Pain make units stronger into the late game (Beasts don't benefit from it, but conversely they can fuel Soulburst), and Battle Focus is alright (most weapons of use are auto hitting weapons anyways in terms of WG and the Wraithfighter).

TL;DR should I play Ynnari because I have the models to do so, or should I Druks, Crafties, and Clowns and have each benefit from their own rules and have access to Haemes, Wracks, and Grotes?

>>54987464
well fact of the matter is that Tau anti armour sucks ass outside of FB commanders, basicly everything costs about the same a quad las predator with less than half the average and max damage output.

If you want to kill tanks as Tau just get up in their face with a suicide fusion carrier everything else is unreliable and way way too expensive.

>>54987307
Manus becomes the Headless Tankman of the Legion of the Dead.

Horus is the Omega Sanction, his soul stolen from the gods by Big E and Imprisoned on Titan so he might contemplate his sins and failures.

Sanguinor

Curze's soul manifests as the Spirit of Vengeance and possesses Night Lords.

>>54987494
She's a Daemon though. A hot daemon, but a daemon.

>>54987495
Psychic Barrier is a waste on any unit with less than 10 total wounds. Even with a 2+ save all your opponent has to do is bounce dice and it's not going to save you.

On top of that HWTs are simply too weak of an individual unit to be worth protecting that way. Just run more of them. They're cheap.

Big blobs ARE hard to put in cover normally; that's why we have things like the Aegis Defence Line.

Hope this helps.

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>>54987380
>primaris

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>>54987476
>abaddon isn't actually abaddon

i see someone played mgs5

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Is it just me or do tyranids seem to lack decent/reliable anti armor choices?

>>54987526
In MoM the Emperor even summon Manus soul to fight for him, doubt he can't do the same with Sanguinius. I believe in GW ass-pull fuckery to bring him back.

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>>54987543
I didn't, but I did know that's essentially what happens and this is 40k where memetic hyposuggestion works.

>>54987548
>MoM
>mfw
And I'm pretty sure it doesn't say it's actually Manus.

>>54987511
Longstrike is pretty good if he's accompanied by other Hammerheads. On his own not amazing.

>>54987545
If you're used to Imperial stuff, yes. Their seriously heavy can openers are wither close ranged or melee, and unless you bring big shit like a Harpy they're slow, too.

This is why a lot of Nid players rely on spamming melee like Genestealers to cut up enemies in CQC by volume of dice instead. I've lost more than one battle to Nids this way.

>>54987484
Different anon with some questions:
1. Giving all the Nobz Kombi-skorchas worth the point cost?
2. Is there only one Kombi-skorcha in the box? All the bitz sites I've seen are sold out.

>>54987493
That sounds fucking stupid. I therefore rate it at 95% likelihood of happening in some black library book or other.

>>54987492

Storm bolter spam complements melta spam nicely

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>>54987208
>Titanfall
That reminds me of a time once in 7th where me and my buds had a walker brawl. The best matchup was when I pitted my Imperial Knight against 3 or 4 Space Wolves Dreadnoughts with stormshields and hammers, the last dread on 1 hp killed the knight, who then exploded and killed the last dreadnought. Was hilarious.
But this Titanfall thing, anon, Imma gonna try that out.

>>54986201
Economist post-doc here, Even a shitty brexit will raise wages and while some businesses may leave the lower power pound will bring manufacturing jobs in. Unless you work for a big bank or an EU institute brexit will be good for you

>>54987545
Tyranids have always relied on close combat to be their anti-tank, there's some stuff that can be good in range but they are expensive and outnumbered by the number of enemy tanks, now that everything can wound everything and vehicles are a bit more expensive this is less of a problem but Tyranids still rely on close combat to destroy tanks.

>>54987505
Short version, Soulburst is more a sidegrade for Dark Eldar and Harlies. They're both really good, dependings if you want the more, well, bursty nature of Soulburst or the consistent tricks and benefits of PfP/RC. Also keep in mind you need to run one of the Ynnari characters to get Soulburst, not the end of the world but a tax none the less.

For Craftworlders Battle Focus is nowhere near as good as Soulburst especially with things like Wraithguard, so its no contest mechanics wise.

>>54987577
Exactly.

>>54987585
You could in theory make one BSS SB spam and have the Canoness ride with them. With point drops you have 3 HQ riding with 3 BSS SB and enjoy those 1s re-roll.

>>54987537
OO, thats some cheeky OC friendo

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>>54987595
>brexit will raise wages

Show your working.

>>54986245

>Rose like a Phoenix

>Entirely regardless of quality concerns isn't a mass battle rank and file game and doesn't have any fluff resemblance

>>54987396
Thats pretty fucking neato!

Based Grey Knights.

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>>54987590
Some more formalized rules for Titanfall:
>4x4 board, preferably with lots of cover
>attacker gets to use all 4 board edges and must deploy >18" away from the defender
>defender starts in the middle
>attacker gets defender's POWER LEVEL in units (if you match on points the defender will win every time)
>attacker always gets first turn (barring a sieze obviously)

Use properly painted Lords of War for maximum effect.

Is there any army builder for 8th edition FW stuff? Or do i have to wait?

>>54987545
Your AT is the massive amount of attack from Genestealers. Crushing Claw Carnifex are alright as long as they have support from OOE and Stonecrushers are even better

I mean... Why wouldn't a chapter who doesn't give a rats ass what Gulliman thinks about his codex just give their Intercessors specialist, heavy and sergeant equipment? Yes, the bolt rifles are a step up over bolters, but there's no reason an Intercessor couldn't hold a flamer.

+Tbh all sisters really need right now is a rework of their army-wide rules

Shield of faith is useless in it's current state:
The invuln only works on AP-4 weapons
Solution: change it to a 6+ FNP
The deny the withch is equally useless, as pretty much every power is at least WC 5, and in that case it only works on a 6+ if the opponent rolled exactly a 5
Solution: change it to a deny that works on a 6+ regardless of the opponent test.

Act of faith is good, but scales poorly:
One unit of sister in another army always has double actions on a 2+, a whole army of sisters has a single double action on a 2+ (unless you spend 40pt a pop for imagifiers giving you more on a 4+)
Solution: needs some sort of mechanic tying the act of faith to the number of units with the rule. IE: for every <ORDER> detachment you get an additional 2+ AoF for an <ORDER> unit

Also, plastic sisters, when?

>>54987572
He is okay with other hammerheads, but still suffers from the unreliability of hammerheads. A hammer head supported by longstrike will do on average 2.3 (5/6 * (2/3*5/6*3.5 + 1/6*2)) with the main gun, which only about 70% chance to even do damage in a turn. A quad las will have ~1.1 lascannons deal damage a turn, and that does not need the support of a character which most people will just target right off the bat, and he is not all that hard for anti armour to kill being a t7 13w 3+ and lacking savior protocol assistance.

My Black Templars are in need of some transportation

Do I go with a Stormraven or a Land Raider Crusader?

Stormraven calls to me because it flys and can be in position to dump dudes on turn 2.

Crusader because it's the OG Black Templar transport and it holds 4 more dudes.

>>54987755
Whatcha puttin' in it

>>54987755
>Do I go with a Stormraven or a Land Raider Crusader

No, the question is Stormraven or Spartan?

Land raiders are really bad this editions, but the spartan is basically 2 land raiders for the cost of 1.5

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>>54987755
Well one has Crusade in it's name and the other doesn't

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Daily reminder not to play against Orks.

They are WAAC scum.

>>54987780

Pfft, the Necron Resurrection Conga Line dates back from 3rd edition

>>54987780
(You), see:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/18/tactical-toolbox-aura-abilities-aug-18gw-homepage-post-3/

Official GW advice is to daisy chain.

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>>54987772
>Land raiders are really bad this editions
This is the first edition in 6 years where they have been a viable choice.
They now shoot twice as much, can fire from anywhere without being limited to having to line up all their weapons, they are mega tough and don't die to a single lascannon or multi-melta shot.

>>54987742
>Comparing anyone's anti armour options to fucking quad-las
Kinda unreasonable.

>>54987767
My initial plan is Helbrecht, a lieutenant, Emperor's champion, and some Company Veterans. I'll fill the rest of the transport slots with a Crusader squad or some more Veterans, space permitting.

>>54987809

How about 5 meltas shooting twice then?

>>54987740
>change it to a 6+ FNP
Nurgle Sisters...
>change it to a deny that works on a 6+ regardless of the opponent test.
Well it is still once, regardless if you succeed or not so I'm fine with that

The solution for AoF is either make it a pool of dice that you can do or keep it as it is but make Imagifiers cost 20.

>>54986692
If you tried pulling that shit in a game I'd call you a cheat.
Warp Talons already have a Deep Strike ability, but cannot be summoned because they lack the Daemonic Ritual special rule.
Believe me I fucking wish I could summon possessed. But they don't have that rule either.