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Leaks Season Edition

resources
>pastebin.com/Cb3X4ZKW

Core rules
>https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar-Rules

Skirmish
>https://mega.nz/#!jMQxCa6C!9TQ324QTcZ7nDJbv2Q7uQ9xg442K-UA-dtK2wTLxFPw

General Handbook
>https://mega.nz/#!nMpnGQBS!Ew5rz8JMzKi5e7_mtN9nibMGY3UWO5jwOl8DIf9UZ1I

Army builder
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/

Custom Warscroll Designer
>http://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

Old thread: >>54974916
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First for no-eyebrow SC lady.
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>>54985100
Shame they didn't make her as shadow aelf. Non-human stormcast would be neat
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>>54985111
Aelves will have their release next year and it will be glorious!

Inb4 Shadespire team

Inb4 Silver tower 2, aelves get 1 new hero
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>>54985111
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>Be me
>Moving to another country in 2 weeks to do an apprenticeship for 3 years.
>Will have barely any time to myself and when i do i'll probably be sleeping.
> General handbook 2, shadowspire, non AoS stuff(necromunda), other AoS releases like the nurgle v stormcast season 2 electric boogaloo and others all coming out as im leaving.
>mfw
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>>54985178

What the hell is this, an apprenticeship for slaves?
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>>54985164
I unironically want wanderers to be aelvish poster-boys. They have allegiance abilities now so we only need a start collecting box for them.
Shame that GW didn't merged Swifthawk Agents and Eldritch Council into one faction by giving them High Aelves keyword or something like that
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Any news about Rotbringers points?
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>>54985166
eyebrow look stupid on such small scale but I would buy an aelf stormcast for skirmish

t. Skaven player
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>>54985178
What country? You can always ship through amazon or some other 3rd party. That's what I always do here. No GW store here until recently.
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>>54985233
Usbekistan
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>>54985212
And I'm glad I can now field my converted sisters of the thorn as allies for my tree folks.
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>>54985261
Jesus, where are you from?
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Forgeworld needs to update scrolls and points and battalions for the master race. Hashut wills it!
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>>54985269
Do we know anything about wanderers allegiance abilities yet? I only saw the points table
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>>54985200

worse, hotel business

>>54985233

Germany, i won't have a problem getting my hands on them, but its more the fact that because im moving to a new area and that i'll have very little time to myself i won't be able to enjoy the hobby as ill be too tired to paint/play it.
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>>54985273
Austria ...getting into diplomatic service and such. Also not actually that anon. But similar situation.
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>>54985286
I don't think so, but allies don't profit from their allegience abilities anyway, right?
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Anyone still got the link to the imgur with the points?
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>>54985178
I hope you'll become rich after that, otherwise it's lame.
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Diplomat anon and Hotelier anon should take lots of grey plastic with them and be productive.
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Any info on fyreslayers?
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>>54985329

After this I won't be rich, but ill have qualifications to pretty much work wherever i want. Its a long term plan that requires much suffering from my part. However after that when i'll settle down ill chug down all the hobby i want and nothing can stop me! (evil laugh and mustache twirling here)

>>54985355

(taking that name, thanks)

yah, ill be taking one of my unpainted armies (khorne bloodbound mortals) with me to tie me over until i can get my hands on shadowspire. Other than that im gonna have to starve myself on hobby to save up for other items and for when a new army comes out (come on goblin sky pirate and/or throgg monster hordes!)
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>>54985381
Can you become an astronaut?
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reminder to paint your dudes black
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>>54985261
Christ what hotels are there. And who the fuck would even visit. Or why.
Oh boy let's go to the annual world goat fucking championships! I know the perfect hotel!
Seriously rethink your life choices
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>>54985433
Don't you dare talk about my wife's sons miniatures like that
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>>54985453

thats another anon in a similar situation, I'm going to somewhere else germany. And boy the amount of times i had to think over this life choice is crazy.

>>54985424
I wish, unfortunatly not :(
Anyways lets talk about aos now, didnt want to derail this hard. Whats everyone working on atm?
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>>54985480
Well I'm waiting for leaks. I already know my 1000 point Ironjawz list is fucked, now I need to see if there is any day of sunshine in this bitch
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Post your dudes! I want to see and read what you guys are working on
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>>54985480
Where are you headed fellow Krautmensch?
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>>54985433
Paint your guys in whatever skin colour you want has always been an option. Only autismos care about skin colour on other peoples toy soldiers. The canon should always step aside for the hobby as well.
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>>54985316
>allies don't profit from their allegience abilities anyway
Yeah, I think so but I want to build mono-wanderers army so I'm interested with their abilities
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>>54985480
>Whats everyone working on atm?
I'm preparing 2 Heralds of Slaanesh for painting.

I'm at home for a week, I'm gonna paint so many Daemonettes.

Massive regiments, here I come.
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>>54985500
I dropped them two weeks ago for painting khornes and t'au drones but it's about time to get back to work
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>>54985480
>Whats everyone working on atm?
Nothing because my army is fully painted and is huge so I have nothing to add to it. Even with the points leaks, my list is changing but since I collected the range of models for my army anyway, they are already done and ready to go.
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>>54985546
dude, clean your laptop, but keep on working on your Orks, I bet they will turn out great
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>>54985480
Working at...let's see...I bought the seraphon SC and got most of that assembled, also recently got my hands on a slann which I'm almost done with painting.
I also need to finish my genestealers for a 40k tournament at the end of the month and right now I'm itching for some pestilens while still needing to put some finishing touches on my skryre too.
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>>54985500
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I took two of the Bullgor Anons other maps and put them together, he (or she) made a pretty good job at getting some sort of coherecy between them
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>>54985500

Storm's ultra externals!
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>>54985609
We don't take kindly to yer... 'types' around here.

You jus keep that there gay porn in yer privacy and we be leavin you alone.
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>>54985500
Haven't gotten around to do my dudes yet. I'm however gonna make a Flesh Eater Court army with a questing Bretonnia theme.

A Duke journey with his army into the realm of Death after having a vision of where to find the Grail which contained the blessing of the Lady. After years of searching in hostile lands the Duke's army did indeed find the Grail as promised in his vision. After the Duke had supped upon it had however been cursed by Ushoran who had tainted the Grail with his blood as a jest. Now the Duke and his noble army is on his long journey back home through the realm of Death to bring back home to his realm the blessing which he received.

I will be using Mantic ghouls kitbashed with Fire Forge historical Templars to give them that Men at Arms look. There will also be a lot of greenstuffing involved to dress the Ghoul Kings and his noblemen in tatters of Bretonnian finery.
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>>54985621
It would be nice if you got a tripcode so that people could just filter out your asinine excuse for shitposting.
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>>54985655
This would be great as a new boardgame/RPG
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>>54985695
Don't give him any (you)s and report his posts
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>>54985706
This is silly.
They don't even have any flesh.
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What happens to stormcast corpses, do they teleport back?
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>>54985706
It seemed like a fairly obvious and simple idea to me.

>>54985728
That nutritional tree sap, though.
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>>54985742
yes and they get extra gene seed, a new bolter and then are reforged but lose some memories.
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>>54985433
I play a Khorne army with diverse skin colours because they're the bad guys and bad guys are coloured.
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>>54985758
>It seemed like a fairly obvious and simple idea to me
Yes, and it makes it somehow bad? It's literally the main FEC theme but still I never saw it actually used
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>>54985758
My headcanon is that Flesh Eater Courts absolutely hate Sylvaneth because they taste like shit
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>>54985655
I once had an idea to make a marauder army that can trace it's roots back to a few noblemen who survived the transition from the old world to the current clusterfuck. Though many traditions have been either lost or twisted over the millenia. And at that point I'm not yet sure what I want to make of them.
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>>54985787
Which is why I wanted to highlight it more. I'm thinking of having horse remains and pieces of the knightly gear tied to the horrors to indicate that they used to be knights.

I'm not sure what to go with for allies, though. I originally wanted some spooky ghosts to go with them, but that seems off limit in the new General's Handbook.
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Hold me guys, I'm saddened by the new points. Why did they increase battalion points this much? Were they really that troublesome?
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>>54985827
I'm thinking Mad Max with horses and chariots.
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>>54985814
It couldn't hurt for the ghouls to get some fibre in their diet.
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>>54985855
Certainly.
They should definitely be colorful and pompous, but seeing how they're poorfag horsefuckers, they need to make use of what they got. skulls, large bones, brightly colored rags, body paint. Every few years they chase some sort of mutated boar with a keg of ale tied on its back and whoever catches it will be the new leader. They call it the hunt for the holy grail.
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Give me a couple hints for a former Vampire Counts guy wanting to try AoS.
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>>54985921
They should worships the Wet Lady or something.
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>>54985937
what models do you have?
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Rotbringers points???
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>>54985487
>all 2 tomb kings players nervously laughing
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So which allies can Free Guild take?
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>>54985516
>falling for the massive regiments meme
Maybe plague claws aren't that bad now
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Anyone gonna post a link to the leak imgur or what? Sheesh
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>>54985951
This is getting dangerously slaaneshy.
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>>54986009
All the allies, because everyone wants to be friends with the coolest faction there is.
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>>54986009
Anyone from Grand Alliance Order
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>>54985479
Funny thing is though, pureblooded azyrheim citizens are described as being whiter than the reclaimed tribesmen.
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>>54986011
All I know is that I always wanted 30 daemonettes units, but they weren't efficient.

Now I pay 270 what was 360.

Hell yeah, I'm gonna finally paint them.
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>>54985487
Same but for pestilens. We got allegiance abilities (can we PLEASE see the artifacts and command traits?), but we've also lost our best formation while having the prices of other shittier ones doubled, but you know, at least GW lowered the furnace and corruptor points by 20 each
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>still no nighthaunts allegiance abilities
Life is suffering
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>>54986009
I can't see it all in the picture, but I can see Stormcast Eternals, Ironweld Arsenal, Devoted of Sigmar and I assume one of the others will be Collegiate Arcane.

On that note, is anyone else annoyed how Fyreslayers can only really be allies for Dwarf armies? They are supposed to be mercenaries, it would be fluffy is any order army could use them as allies.
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>>54986077
>hired by chaos in the fluff
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>>54986056
>>54986057
Neat.
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>>54985500
Still working on my AOS heroquest project and my AoS28 stuff.
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>tfw Free People can't allie with dorfs and knife ears
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>>54986077
It's pretty easy to make out that the first entry is Collegiate Arcane.
But with the Celestial Hurricanum going up to 380 you wont be able to bring in anything else via allies, assuming the Free Peoples allegiance abilities are worth it. Will be tricky for battleplans that require heroes. Although the general on griffon has gone down a bit.
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>>54986077
Yeah it's pretty retarded. Does the same apply to kharadron who are also gold hungry mercs? And what is it with dorfs being mercs?
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>>54985954
All of them.
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>>54986148
Pretty rad, 5/5 photoworking
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So how does allies work; can I just pick an choose from any of my allies or do I have to stick with one particular ally?
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>>54986369
cheer anon.
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>>54986417
You can take up to 20% of your total points as allies without losing your specific allegiance abilities. The combination of allies you pick is irrelevant.
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is there the points for nurgle rotbringers?
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>>54986369

All of those AOS28 types seem to be artistic geniuses. It's truly disgusting.
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>>54986240
Ironweld is still part dorf tho . .
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Lizardbros > ratfags
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>>54986069

That's off the fucking hook. Errata this shit, GW!
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>>54986479
Alot of the people I've spoken too around the AoS28 community all seem to have qualifications or a formal training in fine art.

The guys from Iron sleet all have degrees or MA's in painting/art.pretty sure the chap that runs ex profundis has a degree of more in art.
The ones that don't all seem to also be mates with or work with the GW design team or have done at some point.
And then there's John Blanche, Sat in the middle of it all like the great horned rat of red ink.

It makes sense really, It's a hobby that allows people to use an already developed skill set recreationally whilst developing and maintaining their technique, keeping their knowledge of formal practice strong through constant use, All without directly overlapping into their professional practice.
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>>54986489
The brain of all Mammals have an aditional layer that enables feelings.

The brain of reptiles doesn't.

Willingly giving living rats to your pet snake makes you a horrible human being.
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>>54986572
Whats AoS28?
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>>54986577
That's not my pet. And if I did give rats to my snake, they'd be frozen.
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>>54986512
They got a price reduction and massive regiment discount, like a lot of other battlelines.

I don't see what the problem is.
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So with all the points hikes and focus on horde units is this to be the go to Sylvaneth list?

TLA
Drycha
Branchwych
30 Dryads
2x5 T-Revs
3x3 Bownoths
Gnarlroot + Household
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>>54986589
Age of Sigmar 28.
It's the AoS sister of Inq28 .Building models and warbands to expand on the narrative and world of the AoS setting, giving them a grittier, darker, more individual style.
The name doesn't really make sense given that inq28 was called that because it was a 28mm version of a 54mm game,But it gets the point across.
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>>54986696
Whats Inq28?
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>>54985100
looks terrible
>>54985164
>Aelves will have their release next year and it will be glorious!
waited this long may as well wait a little longer
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>>54987042
Inquisitor role play.
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>>54987171
>>54987042
>>54987042
Right...
Back in the space year 2001 there was a game called inquisitor. This used 54mm miniatures and had a narrative focus. Rule wise it played as a blow by blow game, with rolls for individual actions.

One of the key parts of the game was developing a cool warband of funky figures.
The game was fun, but sadly the 54mm metal miniatures meant it had no crossover with peoples existing collections, so it was burnt at the stake when the rest of specialist games was accused of heresy.

But hope remained....
Members of the design team looked at the bones of inquisitor, and saw that they were good.
Deep within warhammer world, At a table made of red wood under red lights, john blnache was painting his 28mm figures, Converted to fit into the crazy red world within his insane red mind.

He and his friends played on tables of converted glorious redness with their converted characterful warbands, Using a mixture of necromunda and inquisitor rules to have all sorts of crazy red fun.

Then came the coming of the internet....
The wider community saw what high lord blanche had created, and saw that it was good.
Soon painters and converters were throwing smooth highlights and blending out of the window in exchange for expressive and characterful paintwork, Texture and grit.

and so inq28 as a sub movement was born, Following the lead of blanches unique style and vision for the worlds of warhammer.
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>>54985164
I would expect more Death and Stormcast instead.
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Might might be a good block of allies to take for a Bloodbound army?

Thematically that Daughters of Khaine Blood Coven set looks real nice, although it does just give me more of what the Bloodbound already do. Aesthetically the Sorceress on Black Dragon caught my eye, having that rising up over the horde of Bloodbound, maybe with some reavers or something at the bottom holding chains to make it look like they shackle the dragon between fights. Mechanically I have no idea since I actually have yet to play the game.
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>>54987304
>Might might
What might*

Also forgot pic.
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>>54987301
To be fair, aelves are order, the faction with the biggest circle jerk. Death has only gotten a single mediocre release.
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>>54987374
That's just bad promotion on GW's part.
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>>54987304
after playing a lot of warhammer total war I see more what role the units have for my army.
how much anti large units should you take or how much anti horde units (example sorceress bladewind spell or bloodwrack medusa)
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>>54987304
Dunno if you can take order allies in a chaos army
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>>54987479
Not exactly possible since TWW is Old World ya drongo. I know Bloodreavers are just Marauders and Blood Warriors are kinda Chosen Warriors of Khorne, but the heroes and shit still bring enough differences to Bloodbound that I can't accurately emulate my army in TWW.

>>54987506
Have you not been paying attention to the new releases?
>With the updated rules for Matched Play in the General’s Handbook 2017, you can now take up to 400 points of allies without changing your army’s Allegiance, meaning flexibility – create more themed armies using diverse units from your collection. That’s where these boxes come in.
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>>54985500
I know paints need to be thinned further. My celestra grey is giving me problems, and fuck painting white in general
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It might be a stupid question but what colours you use for base trim? Are GW painters using balthasar gold? It looks pretty good on pic related and I'm bored with my abaddon black trims
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>>54985500
Hard to get a good picture of it because it's huge and won't stay on its base, but here's my Ironclad so far.
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>>54986577
Thats not even true.
some monitor lizards have displayed behaviour simmilar to dogs.

That beeing said Snakes are idiots and probably dont see you as more than an object, but thats mostly that snakes are even stupid by reptile standards.
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>>54987600
I'm pretty sure that's just a brown trim.
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>>54987550
Looks good anon.

I know it gets alot of shit, But drybrushing can be your friend if you want to avoid clogging the details on things like chainmail and fur. Do them first. Also don't be afraid to mix washes and weathering.Adding texture on top of your colour (mud,rust,dust ect) is a good way to remove some of the flatness of things like robes whilst also hiding any bits you aren't happy with.

Your paint looks fine consistency wise, And good brush control is much more important than thinned paint, Which is looks like you have.

Also basing.
Basing completes your model, You'd be amazed how a good base can make an unfinished miniature feel complete, So don't think of it as something you always have to do last.
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What's the best way to do plague monk skin? For my SC ones, I did cadian as a base, flesh shade, and then kislev. Should I be using ratskin flesh and then flesh shade and Cadian with fine kislev highlighting?
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>>54987672
I'm using bugman's glow + reikland fleshshade on fleshy parts of my clanrats. Kislev flesh + shade is fine too
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>>54987672
These guys look like the latter
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>>54987726
Are you just using a base and then a shade and stopping there? Sounds a tad dark
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>>54987757
>>54987672
THESE guys look like ratskin flesh or rakarth flesh (can't quite tell), earthshade, and plaid wych flesh. Could be a cool alternative. Can I see your rats anon?
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Is this game even balanced and/or competitive at all?
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>>54987788
Who the fuck actually cares any more? Any fuckwits who want something super competitive that they can stroke their "tactics" boners over have moved on already.
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Masterclan leaked points when?
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>>54987810
I'll take that as a "no".
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>>54987786
Forgot pic
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>>54987600
The official color they use for base rims is called "Steel Legion Drab".
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>>54987788
>is it balanced
Foe the most part id say yes, there are a few issues here and there but im confident theyll clear it up in the new release

>is it competetive
It shouldnt be, but some autists, as always, have to make everything a dickmesuring contest
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>>54987831
If you really want an answer, it's unclear because they're releasing a new General's Handbook (ie. the thing they released in response to all the tourneyfags crying) in literally 4 days. It's GW though, so I expect some balance issues of course and I doubt the new Handbook will be "better" than KoW or whatever you "muh competitive" types are cumming all over these days.
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>>54987788
>>54987831
For an actual answer unlike the salty WHFB anon, its too early to tell. However before in the last edition its balance and competitiveness was of a significantly higher quality than 8th ed WHFB which was a colossal mess.
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>>54987788
>playing a dice game competitively
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>>54987770
I have 80 of them and I don't want to win the golden daemon m8. It's easy and quick scheme and it works fine with very bright cloth colour scheme
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>>54987902
>>54987770

For my IoB rats all I did was basecoat everything in their respective colors and then hit the entire model with agrax earth shade.
No point in doing 40+ of the same 1 wound model to any kind of good standard.
All you need to do after that is just give the command units/banner guy a couple extra layers and leave the rest as-is. You cant really tell on the table when there are more important models around.
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>>54987550
You are a king in a sea of peasants
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what is your opinion on this guy?
I personally love him, and he's the whole reason I will buy the box.
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>>54988078
hes awesome
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>>54988078
>plenty of details
>nice concept and fluff
>pretty hilarious - actually made me smile
>universal look - okay to use both in aos and 40k
I'm not a GW fanboy but it's a fuckin neat model tho
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>>54988078
Cute and depicts Nurgle's more whimsicle side. That said I would pay good money to see a twisted Alice in Wonderland with a little human girl staring up curiously at the Plaguebearer.
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>>54988078
>that plaguebearer chilling out on the snail
we need someone to replace the sword with a fishing pole for maximum leasure
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>>54988203
>"Plenty of maggots today in the slime-pond, george?"
>"Yep!"

Hillbilly plaguebearers, I like it.
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>>54985212
I honestly wish they'd re-merge Sylvaneth and Wanderers. It wouldn't be too difficult to justify, and I think they'd still work well together.
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>>54987786
>>54987837
Here's one of my better ones. What do you think of the skin? Too bright?
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>>54988222
>assuming you are protected by Nurgle, his realm is actually the most comfy

If I wasn't working on an army already I would be tempted to put together a Skirmish set for glorious Nurgle!
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>>54988203
>swords replaced with a fishing pole
>snail is dragging along a bag of maggots
>Bottles of bear in the bucket
>Bone modeled as pipe
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>>54988241
13/13. looks great for table top.
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>>54988243
What would you use?
>herald
>1 plague drone
>1 nurgling swarm
>5 plaguebearers
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>>54988258
Skin tone isn't too bright for the robes? I might just start using earthshade instead of flesh shade just so I only do one wash.
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>>54988243
>If I wasn't working on an army already I would be tempted to put together a Skirmish set for glorious Nurgle!
do tell your idea, anon! I need a good theme for my upcoming nurgle-demon army!
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>>54988288
I was thinking more the mortals. I love the daemons sure but me heart is with the Rotbringers.

>Lord of Plagues
>2 Putrid Blightkings
> 4 Chaos Warriors

Should come to 50 renown exactly.

Would look awesome too.
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>>54988288
Play campaign, it's awesome. I started with a packmaster and 9 giant rats. After 2 games I got two extra Rat Ogors. You start with 25 renown but you can expand a warband very quickly
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I kind of wish there were skellingtons for other factions too

If I kitbashed some skeletons to use as state troops would I catch heat for it?
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>>54988323
This >>54988338. Nothing too special, but it means I can kind of go funky with my paints as Nurgle allows a lot of love and leverage when it comes to colour schemes. Also write fluff.
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>>54988295
Maybe just darken the teeth because they wouldn't have pearly whites.

but remember they are rats.
You should have some lighter and some darker. Give some an extra wash on the skin if you want but these aren't Stormcast, they can look different.
Mix up the skin and fur colors if you feel like.
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>>54988338
Id take 1 blight king and the rest as nurgle mauraders because you have too few doods to maintain board control
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>>54988385
As long as you are not doing it for some weird waacfag shit I would be okay with them. What's your idea?
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>>54988407
Maybe I can make an earthshade glaze with medium for the skin
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>>54988438
That's sorta what I did for my Beastmangs.
Some are blonde, some are albino. It looks fine when they are all clumped together.

You can give all the leaders a specific feature so they still stand out, such as glowing weapons or something on the base.
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>>54988203
>>54988257

That is no sword, it's a shear (large scissor) He's a gardener, he didn't need a fishing pole or a sword.
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>>54988423
Thanks man but that would require me to buy 4 box sets. Working off a pretty tight (mega low) budget. Also its just an excuse to model things and wander around a battlefield with them
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>>54985071
Soon
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>>54988433
I was thinking about the thing I posted last night of statue stormcast and what might look good with chipped and crumbling statues

With moss and vines then the trees or wood elves could work too, but I think skeletons look cooler
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>>54988484
I know but they are designed to look like two plaguebearer's swords m8
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>>54988509
>statue stormcast
Neat concept, I want to buy a box of bloodletters for skirmish and paint them like statues too
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>>54988505
Every thread.
It's not happening.
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>start collecting boxes for my shit mini-faction

no they aren't, they are a box to make taking your mini-faction convenient as an allied detachment convenient for actual armies.

mini-factions are dead, never were meant to get updates/expanded, and never will get updated/expanded.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer
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So will compendium stuff like lord skrolk, pestilens clawpack, and queek headtaker be useable still?
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>>54988577
If they weren't being supported, why even bother releasing boxed sets for them?
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>>54988559
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not
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>>54988559
I did the same with my bullgryns as animated ancestor dwarf statues for 40k.
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If I want to update the tactica on 1d4chan, starting from version 1.1, should I made version 1.2 or 2.0 ?
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>>54988577
Oh wow Anon, you have found a pic that was uploaded on GW store 2 days ago!
They might be named as GW wants to name them but half of these boxes work fine as start collectings. DoK, Deathrattle, Nighthaunt, Warherds and Spiders - all of them are more than okay to start an army. Shit, some of them even have new allegiance abilities in the GHB2.0. You are not only a shitposter but you are also an imbecile
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>>54988677
2.0 - new GHB means new edition
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>>54988677
I think 2.0 sounds better as it IS a new version after all.

>>54988680
Don't feed the troll bud.
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>>54988701
>>54988692
Yes, I think you are right
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>>54985433
I completely agree, idea of a mono race on each planet is retarded
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So is it still worth running formations in a pestilens army?

>Congregation of filth
Still pretty shitty since all the abilities require proximity to a plague furnace, making it slow as fuck. Just costs more now.
>plaguesmog congregation
Censers are still trash. Not worth the points considering how outclassed it is by Tzeentch
>foulrain congregation
Overpriced. You get more bang for your buck by allying in thanquol and boneripper or 2 warp lightning cannons.
>virulent procession
No. Just no. This was never a good idea to begin with.
>pestilent clawpack
Removed from the frikkin game
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>>54988745
Tribes should all be 1 race.
If you are a bunch of Norse marauders how do you know who is foreign to your group? Probably the 1 guy who doesn't look like you.
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>>54988745
>giving a fuck about race of plastic soldiers
How bored you have to be to give a shit about something this negligible?
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>>54988559
I would like to do the same for some Saurus Guard. I feel likw it would be a cool way to emulate their old fluff while incorporating the newer "memory" part. I have no idea how to go about it.
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>>54988745
https://youtu.be/rkJf9efNYPg
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Coincidence?
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Local GeeDubya is doing a Path to Glory campaign. So far it's,

>Death (Me) Vampire Lord, Necromancer, 20 Skeleton Warriors, and 5 Black Knights to start with.

>Kharadron Overlords

>Ogres

>Seraphon

>Slaanesh daemons

Thinking it should be fun.
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>>54988559
Neat concept, I want to buy a box of stromcast for skirmish and paint them like statues too
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>>54988831
They are just reboxing them for 40k nurgle release and the blightwar
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>>54988857
So no new plastic models?
:(
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>>54988831
Does the GuO come with the classic second head with horns?
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>>54988857
>>54988900
I'm not one to stoke hype, but reboxing makes no sense, because those models already have round bases.
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>>54988937
So did plaguebearers
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is there any fluffy reason for an undead warband to be free-willed mercenaries rather than servants of Nagash
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I think that the Anon from one of the previous threads might be right about skirmish point being based on ghb2 points. Look at the packmaster. He costs 16 renown and he costs now 80pts (was 60pts). 60/5=12 while 80/5=16
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>>54989222
>followers of the one true king
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>>54989222
The servants of some young vampire who fucked up in bringing them back
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>>54988937
I think they want include 8'th edition 40k rules.
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>>54989222
Vampire pirates like Luthor Harkon
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>>54989222
Check out the Cursed Company from Warhammer Fantasy and you got a good fluff piece.
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>>54989445

Excellent, this is just what I was looking for. Thanks!
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So is Kairos Fateweaver and that Skryre artifact that slays a model on a 6 now the strongest thing? If you can find ways to pop up right beside the most important models on the other side of the field...anything you roll you can just change to a 6 and kill. Nagash instantly gone with 100% chance of success
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So with the new allies rules can I use generic allied battleline units?(zombies in a soulblight army for instance)
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>>54989834
Yes but its 200 points of allies for 1k battles and 400 for 2k etc.
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>>54989609
Vermin lord deceiver with skitterleap, or even a skryre battalion digging within 3"
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does anyone ahve the points cost for nurgle rotbringer?
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>>54989609
No tzeentch demons/Arcanites as Skryre allies so you'd break the allegiance and wouldn't be able to have the brass rod.
On the other hand bring your own Ominous Nocculum or whatever the fuck is called, use its rules and every turn you can cast a 4+ spell that lets you change the result of one dice.
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What is preventing me from using 400 zombies in a 2500pt battle and literally force a draw every single time?
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>>54990564
People getting sick of your shit?
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>>54990564
Assembling, painting, carrying, and setting up 400 zombies.
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>>54990608
But imagine the butthurt man.

All the delicious butthurt.
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>>54990564
The fact that people are not playing 2500pts. If they do they are autistic enough to play against 400 zombies
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>>54990667
Seems like bad sportsmanship, desu. I'm above that petty shit.
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>>54990684
So what is the standard game size? 1500?
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>>54990564
Me bringing 2500 points of ratings and stormfiends with ratlings
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>>54990564
>400 zombies in a 2500pt
That doesn't look all that strong to be honest
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>>54990698
Usually 1000 is the most fun, but I know competitively it's 2000
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>>54990698
Never saw a 2500pts game irl. All LGS I visited are supporting skirmish, 1000pts and 2000pts games. 1k is okay for quick and fun games and 2k is more than enough for weird-ass combos. People don't feel the need for 2,5 - it's just the worse version of 2k for ultimate waacfags
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>>54990667
Yeah, breathtaking. You shlep a fuckton of Zombies to play someone else, who also brings a massive army with them. Then you taunt them in order to get your delicious butthurt until he rage-quits and then you both pack up and go home. Wow, that's the sort of afternoon I could only dream about.
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So if I have understood right, I can't take Night Haunt units in my matched play Flesh Eater Court anymore?
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>>54990564
because its a shit tier list
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>>54990878
You can take everything as always.

Allies doesn't means you can't take what's not in there.
It means you can take them without losing the Allegiance.
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>>54990878
Sure, you just have to make a Death army, not a Flesh-Eater Court army with Nighthaunt allies.
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>>54990926
>>54990951
Okay, that makes sense.
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Ive never done a path to glory campaign and my flgs is starting one, does this look like a decent warband?
I was also thinking of doing a warband centered around free spirits duurthu and kurnoth, is that one any good?
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>>54991100
Fug wrong pic
T. Phoneposting scum
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>>54991100
>path to glory
>not rolling like a real man
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>>54991247
>lmaorandumbecksdee
In reality, i would, but my store is so full of waacfags and other such shitters id rather just pick.
>if im going to be going up against three thundertusk followers each game, then i will die on my own terms, thank you very much
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>>54991320
I see.

It needs a new level of waacfaggery to waacfag in a Path to Glory, which is meant to be casual.

I just came from a long Path to Glory with 12 player that lasted a few months. I have that guy spamming Charmaleon Skinks, but aside from that it was fun.
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>>54991381
eeeeeh. Don't know if the new rules for Path to Glory changed it, but in the GH2016 version all you had to do to WAAC was play Stormcasts. Because call be crazy, but when 5 Dryads fill one choosable slot for Sylvaneth, Sigmarines should not get 10 Liberators in that same slot. You could just take a Celestant on foot along with a Stardrake and 50 Liberators and play against a Branchwych, 20 Dryads and 5 Tree Revenants. Doesn't seem too fair, does it?
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>>54991468
path to glory changed in each battletome and then changed again in the PTG book

stormcast are finally balanced in PTG
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>>54991491
Okay, that's good to know
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>>54991468
I know.
I changed things a little, otherwise it was unplayable.

I made so that if your warlord is on foot, it gets 5 followers. On steed or with an animal companion is 4, on chariot is 3 and a monster/behemoth is 2.

I also made new tables for the people that didn't have it.

I was pretty happy to discover I got very close to the new Path to Glory book.
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Rotbringers when?
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>>54991491
>>54991381
Sce arent what scares me right now, because i know we have at least one beastclaw raiders waacfag in my store and i KNOW he will just bring thundertusks and i KNOW i will want to kms every time i go up against him. Aside from him we have a spiderfang player of questionable integrity, a skinkspamming faggot, a pretty cool death player, and a bro tier slaneesh player so far, with more signing up
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>>54991574
you shouldnt be worried about beastclaw. the scenarios make beating them a total joke

theres one scenario where if you control 3 objectives you instantly win and beastclaw almost always lose that one

if youre concerned with waacfags then you should be worried about seraphon, since they summon non-stop with the slann as their champion
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I need some serious fucking help guys. Last spring I got into the hobby with skaven pestilens. I've been trying to paint the same cunting 20 plague monks for the past year. The way the GW guys said to paint them was:
>castellan
>drybrush straken
>edge drybrush nurgling
>earthshade
>cadian flesh
>flesh shade
>kislev flesh

The only reason I've taken so fucking long is because there's so many steps, and whenever I'm working with a colour, it somehow appears on the opposite side of the mini's robes, which I then have to layer twice and shade again. It's also fucking tedious. Each monk takes me 3 hours minimum, which lowers incentive, and they don't even look that good. I like my rats, but how?
What are some good ways to stay positive and to speed up this shit process?
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>>54991648
Is there any way of painting my guys to look good that won't be so punishing on every mistake?
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>>54991648
You don't paint them one by one, that's how. You take one color and use it on ALL of them. Then you take the next colour and use it on ALL of them and so on until you're done.
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>>54991648
do this
>>54991762


You paint them ALL one colour, then pick out the details on ALL of them, then wash.
For example do all the robes on all of them, then all the metals on all of them, then all the skin on all of them....etc

Then layer up with the lighter versions of each color.

In your process you can save time by using ONE wash.
So go Castellan, straken, nurgling, then do all the flesh and metals, THEN do ONE earthshade over the whole model at once.

Once that is done pick out the details.
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>>54991648
Implement these two changes:

1. Assembly line painting: place your 20 rats in a line and apply each step to all of them at once before continuing with the next step.

2. Change the order of the steps. First, apply the base color onto everything. Then drybrush everything, then wash everything, finally pick out the final lights and the details.
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Are you putting any decors on 25mm bases? I find sprue stakes cheap and easy to made but I'm afraid that they might look too concentrated on such small bases. I'm gonna run about 12 of boyz - they are just for skirmish - so maybe I should put any scenery pieces just on part of them?
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>>54991906
Ok, that sounds more efficient. Is there a better way to do robes than all drybrushed? The problem I have with drybrushing them is that if I make a mistake, there's not really an easy fix

I'm at the point now where I'm just forcing my way through this unit. I have 11 done, and the robes on all but 4 (they turned out too dark so I'm redoing them) done, and most of those have cadian
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>>54991961
>texture paint
>wash
>dry-brush
There, base done for all except the important models.
With these models, I'd cut those bars off so I could glue them on 32mm bases, especially for Skirmish, where every model matters.
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>>54991986
If you get them all done the little mistakes you make won't be as apparent. A fully painted army will look nice even if everything isn't perfect.
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>>54991955
You can see my best monk up here >>54988241
Am I laying on the kislev wrong? Should it just be gentle highlighting?
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>>54991648
You can easily take shortcuts if you need them.

If you have an horde army, use that method only on Characters and Monsters.
A mediocre but fully painted army is better than a grey army with a few guys well painted.

Personally, I would
>spraypaint them with Death Guard Green
>cadian flesh on the skin
>Metal and wood with what colour you like
>Ushabti bone on pages and teeth
>Agrax earthshade fucking everything
>Drybrush with nurglin green

You want some turbopaint?
>spraypaint with corax white
>Reikland Flesh on flesh
>Camoshade on cloths
>metal, wood, teeth
>Agrax earthshade on those
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>>54992007
>I could glue them on 32mm bases, especially for Skirmish, where every model matters
There is a rule at my LGS that you have to put models on their box bases so boyz have to stay on 25mm
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>>54992031
The first option is pleasing. If my store is still open I may run and grab that spray. You don't think it'll be too light?
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>>54991986
post a photo if you have one

You don't need to drybrush. You can simply do:
1.Dark Green
2. Layer(or drybrush) a Lighter Green
WASH (Rest of the model is blocked in with colors, so you wash em all at once)
3. Highlight/final layer of an even lighter green

Done.
You can even make it shorter since these are base troops:
1. Dark Green
2. Wash
3, Edge highlight with a lighter green.

This is my lightning canon. the wood brown is literally:
1. Dryad bark (dark brown)
2. Wash
3. Drybrush with Steel legion drab (lighter brown)

Doesn't look the best but it gets the job done on the parts I don't really care about.
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>>54992052
Alright. I think that's asinine bullshit, but it's not like rebelling against store policy would do you any good, so yeah, I guess you'll be stuck with those then
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>>54992029
>You can see my best monk up here >>54988241
Nigga you serious? That looks great.
You look at models from ~2 feet away. I'd be happy with that. Spend the time on your HQ units, that is already at table top standard.
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>>54992084
I never really learned how to layer properly. Is it just like an outline of the model?
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>>54992076
>too light
Depends on your tastes.

The wash will bring it down enough, but if you want a darker scheme you can go for it with the caliban green.

Otherwise, Army Painter do a lot of colourized primers.
Army Green is a perfect middleway.
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>>54985178
>tfw starting an apprenticeship for a company that works in my field of study and is within 5 minutes of driving from home
I feel bad for you anon, i'm going to think about you every night before i go to sleep for solidarity's sake
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>>54992170
No, you lay a color down, then cover a bit less of the mini each time with the next color, so a bit is showing.
When you get more advanced you can blend the transitions smoothly

look up layering paint on youtube
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The webpage for the Skycutter includes a picture of this guy, the Skywarden without his mount.

Do we just have to use him as an anointed? Also does anyone know if that base and rock are included in the box?
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>>54992320
forgot pic.

I know it's an old square based mini but still.
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>>54992198
If only they did death world forest. Love that colour.
Here's a monk I'm trying >>54992031 (minus the DGG spray)

How's the skin? Too dark? I like earthshade more than flesh shade.

>>54992031
Drybrush nurgling after the wash?
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>>54992347
Sorry about the lighting
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Is the Age of Sigmar battlescribe dead?
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>>54992347
>>54992368
Skin is fine, but you need something bright onto the model to compensate.
If you do everything dark, the model just look ugly.
Highlights/drybrush are the perfect way to add some light.

>Drybrush nurgling after the wash?
I do that all the time. It makes for some heavy contrast, which I like very much (pic related, the claws are all xereus purple, nuln oil and then dechala lilac).

Of course it generally look better if you do two step of drybrush, to reach that bright tone, but we are trying to take shortcuts.

If you don't like it, you could do the drybrush before the wash, which is going to look more natural, just make sure do to a very bright one otherwise you are gonna lose it in the shading.
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>>54992485
yes, use scrollbuilder.com, its far superior
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>>54992320
>>54992334
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/WSC-HE-ENG
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>>54992598
I miss the old Scrollbuilder UI, the new one is too big. Before you could fit everything on one screen, but now you have to scroll down with a large enough army.
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>>54992584
I'll try post wash. Just went out and bought some dry nurgling (I was using the regular before to drybrush) and DGG spray. How would you recommend I drybrush? All over the robe, or just the edges?
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>skink starseer is 200 points now

>cant effect turn order rolls any more

Fucking why
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>>54992658
Focus on the edges.

Drybrush post wash can look very dirty if you don't do it well, so better be careful and do it on the edges and clear details.
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>>54992740
because if you aren't SC you are supposed to be shit
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>>54992740
Sell your old, boring bight colored lizardmen and crazy dino creatures and get some Exciting NEW Shiny Stormcast Eternals Today!
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>>54992740
That's odd, it got an increase in points but there's no star next to the units name. Isn't there supposed to be a red star next to changed points? Or maybe that's only for decreased.
That's a shame though, I really like the Starseer. I didn't really use him much sadly.
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>>54992813
>>54992846
Its unreal how assblasted you are by the existence of stormcast
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>>54992872
>implying I don't love the best faction in AOS

lmfao
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>>54992872
Yeah, I didn't like them at first, but now they have grown on me. I'm just thinking that there is one dedicated contrarian shitposter that thinks anyone actually still cares.
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>>54992912
>>54992872
Just ignore him and report his posts, that's all
>>
So what are some popular Stormcast headswap options from third parties?
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>>54992943
>Just ignore him and report his posts, that's all
Sigmar does not approve of reporting posts that do not violate the board rules.
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Moonclan > Stormcast
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>>54992912
I like them but not as a whole. Anything with angel wings looks dumb and the model tips over. Anything mounted or animal looks stupid because: why do magical lightning soldiers ride/use "normal" animals? if Stormcast were just 2-3 wound Hard hitting tank foot soldiers and maybe archers (But not the awful sniper dudes) i could get behind it. I wish they had a tighter focus rather than being a jack of all trades

SC as allies and not as a standalone faction i like, they should have been an allied force intended to back up Humans/Aelves from the beginning

I compare them to Grey Knights, other than the obvious reasons, GK started off as an elite force of anti-Chaos bad assess, and then over time they became stupid and lost their niche charm (Draigo, Dread-knights, shut fluff etc) - Problem is Stormcast started off stupid since Prosecutors and the Dracoth were in the very first AoS box.
Though this is more limiting in models (and thus money for Gw), i've felt this way since the game launched
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>>54993132
Spiderclan>Moonclan ya git
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>>54993132
Why not both?
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Haunted forest anon here. What are some good crossovers I can use between death and Sylvaneth that could count as things from either side? Obviously big stuff like Terrorgeists don't really have an equivalent, but a lot does I think with a bit of creative modeling and kit bashing.

Dryads = Zombies/Skeletons?
Revenants = Spirit Hosts
Branchwych = Cairnwraith
Branchwraith = Banshee
Kira both = Morghasts?

Not sure on the sizes in the Morghasts and Dryads. Any other ideas or input? I'm really liking this idea.
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Would you give a fuck about your opponent using square bases in skirmish? Not even the smaller ones - 25mm squares instead of 25mm round ones
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Alliegance abilities leaked yet? If so got any Seraphon leaks other than points?
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>>54985071

Do Chaos marauders come with 5 swords or just one?

I need to know because I wanna make a unit of barbarian greatswordsmen and barbarian swordsmen guard for my Free Peoples.
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>>54993448
Remember when they released this game and shit was measured model to model, and gross couldn't hit shit that flew?
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Grot sky pirates when?
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>>54993482
No

But why wouldnt you just rebase?
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>>54993688
I didn't even based them yet - that's why I'm asking
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>>54985433

My FG army is themed as a mercenary group that recruits from all over so I've got a few different skin colors in there.

Really awful at painting black skin though. So far I'm best as painting olive/tanned skin a la Conan so it's mostly that and pale white lol.

Which reminds me. I can finally upgrade from fucking cheap model paints and maybe grab some citadel flesh colors to actually paint skin.
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>>54993322
Gitmob>Spiderclan, ya gnob
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>>54985855
>>54985921

That's... fucking amazing lmao.
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>>54993482
Are the rules like regular AoS where both bases are fine? I'd assume so. I don't think I'd care about the shape, but I guess I'd understand that some people care?
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>>54993786
In bigger-scale games it actually matters but in skirmish it's all about aesthetic I think
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>>54985500
Posting this fucker cause I like him, 2000 pt army including 80 grots and 20 squigs on the way...
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>>54993636
Dark times, anon.
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>>54988857
They don't rebox resin models
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>>54986489
LET THE FEASTING BEGIN
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>>54993840
Why wouldnt you just put the wight king on top of the base?
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>>54985857
No way this is real
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Exited for the new GHB for disposessed, I want to keep using my thorek ironbrow, does anyone know if compendium scrolls and formations are in the new book or are they gone?
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>>54993840
Base is just for modeling purpose - you can put the enemy model on it
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>>54993840
Literally nobody uses model to model, even offical tournaments house rule base to base
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>>54993250
Well, they do not ride "normal" beasts. They ride star dragons that breath star magic, star bird-horses that can turn into magical wind and fly fast as fuck and giant muscled dragon horses that can breath lighting. That's hardly normal animal. They are as magical as them.
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>>54993974
theyll be updating compendium units in a pdf on their website
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>>54994092
Whereabouts did they say that? I just don't want to get my hopes up too much
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>>54994050
I remember playing a game with a dude, matched play, and half way through, after I had clearly been doing base to base, he got all huffy and said I didn't clarify before the match.
All his shit was on square bases by the way. He was just wanting to jam more in. I just gave him the are you fucking kidding me look.
Why are some people like this
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>>54987534
You'll also notice that every faction has a list of guys it can ally with

Suffice it to say, daughters of khaine are not on the Bloodbounds list
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>>54993482
>Well done square bases?
Keep them

>Unpainted square bases
Fucking rebase
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>>54993636
You mean you don't measure model to model? Then how's it done?
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>>54992031
So I'll probably just hammer through the monks tonight like I was doing them before (just now with earthshade). I have a couple other boxes of monks (a gift), so I'll try your first listed technique tomorrow. I can live with the skin dark. Just hope the robes turn out well
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>>54993931
>>54993997
If you ever dare to put your ugly models on top of my delicate modelled bases I'll put my ugly fist on your delicate face.
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>Greenskinz nearly left out in GHB17 - only some minor point changes and battleline-if chariots
>Even such small factions like Nighthaunts and Wanderers got allegiance abilities
>New battalions for IJ and warscroll cards for BS
>None of the GS heroes is playable in Skirmish
That's just sad Anons. I'm not a great fan of greenskinz but they could be such a funny and fluffy faction to play. I'm not saying that they need a battletome or these damn cards but at least a new battalion or allegiance abilities would be great. why not make-over them as allies mini-faction? Or maybe give them some more grot-greenskinz synergy
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>>54994146
Oh I'm gonna paint them for sure. Unpainted bases are a crime
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>>54994256
>cheating
>get called out on it
>threaten people with violence
Congratulations, you are That Guy
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>>54994316
He's a troll, don't bother tho
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Pesti-Skryre Alliance shall reign supreme in the Mortal Realms
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>>54994284
...because they have plans for them.
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>>54994392
YOU COLOURED IT YES-YES!!!

Are you the anon who did the great corruptor icon?
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>>54994504
>GW
>having plans for grots ever
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>>54994537
Yep that's me glad you liked it, i wanted to do it last night but too tired.
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>>54994392
Mind writing down a list of what exploits you speak of?

Does anyone have a good Skaven Tourny list that's taken into consideration GH2?
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>>54994738
I remembered last time when we kinda compared 1000 point lists you'd said you were working on something. It looks great
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>>54991120
Where do you get this info?
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>>54994799
Warp lightning cannon allies are better than the plaguesmog congregation
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>>54994873
Where do you find all the information on bonuses you get from battalions/groups. I'm new to AoS and it seems like I have to look between 3+ books to get info.

Bottom line, what books do I need to play the game and get all the potential bonuses/items/artefacts as a Skaven player?
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>>54994799
Probably just going to experiment with weapon team and WLC allies. Cant wait for Friday though i gotta see those Artifacts. Maybe even Epidemius would be useful among Pestilens. Gutter runners will be good anti warmachine for all clans, either way Skaven allying in general is going to be strong

>>54994816
Yeah, might do some more sketches. I'll drop the clawpack in 1k, i like 30 man monks but i'll try out the 40 for the discount. The loss of Skrolk is lame, but my lgs won't care if i use his old 100pts pdf rules so i plan to keep him alive.
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>>54994504
Anon, please. Maybe if GW would release a new universal boyz kit with bits both for AoS and 40K but we both know it will never happen
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>>54994985
>Probably just going to experiment with weapon team and WLC allies
What do you mean by this exactly? I'm a noob. I didn't realize there were WLC allies. It seems a bit overwhelming to me with all the different factions/items
> Artifacts
These will be in the GH2 presumably?
>Epidemius would be useful among Pestilens
Who is Epidemius I don't see him among the Skaven warscrolls and why is he good with Pestilens.
>Skaven allying in general is going to be strong
Is this within the faction of Skaven? Or do you mean non-skaven allies?

Where do I find the information on bonuses from different factions? Are these over and above battalion bonuses?

Thank you if you actually respond to all these questions. Haha.
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New bread
>>54995281
>>54995281
>>54995281
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>>54994330
>>54994316
Are you fucking serious? Putting your shit on top of my shit is in no way allowed in my book, I don't care if the game demands it.
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>>54994107
GW needs to rip the fucking WFB bandaid off and tell these cunts to use the proper rounds.
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>>54994843
What are you on about?
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