/aosg/ Warhammer Age of Sigmar General

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>obligatory soon

What happened to the rumor of Sky Pirate Grots? I figured they'd come soon after Steamdorfs to be a natural rival but it seems with all the 40k focus+Specialist games that isn't happening?

>>54871105
I don't see them coming until next year

And that in case they even exist, thing I really doubt

>>54871105
Deja vu

>>54871105
>Sky Pirate Grots
i want to believe

I'm borderline about getting into AOS but that'd be really hard to say no to

To the anon who asked for Bretonnian advice, it's in the other thread.

>>54871105
There was no rumor.
The shill stopped releasing rumors when GW started handling previews themselves and none else cares enough to spill the beans.

If sky pirates were mentioned the grand number of two times it's because writers are asked to attempt worldbuilding and what they are given to work safely are references to other books and that's all.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/14/narrative-play-in-the-generals-handbook-2017-aug14gw-homepage-post-4/

>>54871648
I hope GW have a bit of initiative and put out a large lore book for AoS. Its really one of the major things holding back the setting, it needs some expansion and not just within Black Library novels.

>>54871878
The AoS RPG was announced

Are any of the AoS novels actually good?

I read Wardens of the Everqueen and it was absolutely awful.

I heard that City of secrets was okay but I couldn't really get into it.

>>54870897
It's fine IMO. You gain +20% of your army points and it's not hard to fit a hero and a unit or two units in 200 pts

>>54872066
the only one i can think of which ive read and loved was the undying king but good fucking luck finding that without paying $90 on ebay

>>54872090
what do you mean you gain +20% of your army points? I read it as 'of the 2000 points you spend, up to 400 of it can be allies'. Am I wrong?

>>54871648
Wheres the fucking chaos preview

>>54872346
No, you're correct.

>>54872346
From what we've seen, you are right.

>>54872346
You can use up to 200 point of allies in 1000pts games. As far as I know 200 is 20% of 1000 so you gain 20% more points to use

>>54872959
So you're saying that a 1,000pt army gets 1200pts to spend after GHB2?
And a 2000pt army gets 2400 points to spend?
That seems overwhelmingly unlikely. I mean I'd love an extra few hundred points to spend, but you couldn't really call it a 2k game when it's always 2.4k

How's the Path to Glory book ? I want a Mordheim-like ruleset, and Skirmish doesn't have any xp rules for improving your warband.

>>54872959
You dont gain bonus points
Up to 200 of your 1000 can be allies

>>54873080

Please tell me youre pretending to be retarded

no he is saying that 20% of your army can be allies. 800 core 200 allied and 200 is 20% of 1000, just like 400 is 20% of 2000 whats so hard about this

>>54873337
was meant for
>>54872959

qui veux du pain ?

>>54873359
Envoie, j'ai un saint nectaire à finir.

>>54873154
Path to Glory has small little traits you can gain on units and heroes, nothing too big. If I remember right.

>>54872959
No. It's not extra points

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>>54872959
>being this retarded

Tell me about your dudes AoSg

I have a faction of Storm cast eternal let by this dude.

Lord Celestant Aedan Kalifax, Torch of Azyr

Aeons ago, in the End Times, Adam Toussain was a Bretonnian noble of little renown. One night, during the campaign against the undead of Sylvania, he followed a falling star. At the crash site, he found a crystal of Everlight. He returned to find his camp under attack. Seizing the moment, he mounted it at the end of his Lance, gave a rallying cry and charged. Those who were fleeing the masses of dead turned and joined him. The Lance formation pierced into the enemy and scattered them. He drove into the heart of the undead host, and slew the Vampire Daedric Von Trevin. His people prevailed, but the hero was lost to a mortal wound.

>>54874435
He was buried with the shard on his heart, to remember the passion and bravery he displayed in the face of overwhelming odds.

Reforged by Sigmar, Aedan has returned as a guiding light in realm of the high heavens. He wields his shard as a spark of hope, to show those who would cower before Chaos, that there is still hope. It was forged as a mace, which he wields with great prowess, along with a Sigmarite Runeglaive.

Sent forth from the Halls of Azyr, he set to conquer the realms in Sigmar’s name. He met with untold horrors and lost many of his brothers. He pressed on knowing that within the Realm of Shadow, there was a people surviving who still remember the glory of old. He found them, scared and fleeing from their homes. The people of Cair’Parombre had been beset by a greater bloodthirster and his host of bloodletters. He engaged the enemy with few of his men remaining. Many fell, returned to Sigmar. Facing his challenge, The Light of Azyr found it's mark, but Aedan was struck, and was thrown to the ground. As the great being towered above and smiled at his newest triumph, a horn blew. The host of Cair’Parombre barrelled into the army of Chaos. Aedan fought against his wounds and stabbed his foe, driving his Runeglaive into its black heart. Rallied, the knights destroyed the remainder of the enemy.

>>54874452
The people spoke of the tale of a knight, a man who knew that his light shone brightest in the darkest of times. A shining torch in the Realm of Shadow, he became their guiding light. Now, with renewed heart, Aedan and his men seek to rally every brave soul who would rage against the dying of the light.

>>54871160
Eh... they DO exist, they are mentioned quite a few times in canon, specially in the KO battletome. Plus we need to re-enact Karak eight peaks but IN SKY!

Fuck off with your fanfic

>>54874452
>>54874435
Reads well but as a non Stormcast player I would find it hard to work around with what they have. Though I don't have the main rulebook.

>>54871060
Dark Sun? Dark Sun <3

So, what are all the factions in AoS? A friend of mine and I are considering getting into it. He's deadset on the Skaven, but I don't know what all of the options are (or how they'd play from surface glance).

>>54875241
They're "Order, Death, Destruction, Chaos". Then if you want to specialize, just look at GW's grouping and pick only from X group, like Ironjawz or Sylvaneth

>>54875270
I know that. I like some of the Death stuff that I've seen and some of the Chaos stuff. I just want to know generally how they play, so I can pick something that I like the aesthetics and gameplay of.

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Which one of the new allies boxes works best as a start collecting box? I bet that they will cost as much as skirmish warband boxes so buying 2 of them to start an army seems to be a reasonable option

>>54875485
The Deathrattle one is pretty good too

>>54875485
Considering the content of some of these boxes, like the Daughters of Khaine one, I'm thinking closer in price to the Start Collecting boxes. GW has surprised me before, though.

>>54875485
Depends entirely on what you want to start. Two Warherd boxes and a doombull would put you at 920pts with a leader, two battleline and two behemoths

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>>54875485
This box is a better way to start a Nighthaunt army than Malignants start collecting. At least all models in the box are usable

What's the best way to start a Tzeentch/Slaanesh army that works in both 40k and AoS?

>>54875737
start collecting daemons of tzeentch and slaanesh, then throw in a few more hevy units like a soul grinder.

>>54875837
Thanks. What's a decent Skirmish lineup for Daemons for when I first start?

>>54875297
The grand alliances all cover a vast spectrum of armies, it's difficult to generalize them. Death commonly is about spamming shit-tier infantry and then buffing the fuck out of them.Chaos is even more diversem so you'll need to be more specific.

>>54875730
Well, with the ally system this will soon change.

>>54875936
From Chaos, I like the aesthetics of Tzeentch and the Tzaangors. I like the concept of Death's armies, but aren't horde armies expensive?

I have never seen anyone use a soulgrinder, ever.

>>54874807
What do you mean?

>>54875981
Disciples of Tzeentch is a very powerful subfaction that generally revolves around brute magic power, weird shenanigans and dice manipulation. They have a very good battletome, plenty of diverse unit options and a bunch of potent tactics.
Yes, pure horde armies are very costly in general. The new Start Collecting boxes generally remove the worst of it, but you'll still need an assload of troops. Some Death subfactions are geared more towards elites, such as Soulblight (vampires) and Deathlords, or have a different gimmick, such as the perpetual reinforcing damaged units that Flesheater Courts (ghouls) can do, but the common theme is still 'shitty troops, powerful magic, some form of big hitter).

>Thinking about an AoS army
>have three in mind
>GW releases a new SC box for each one
>my choice hasn't gotten easier
Pls help.

>>54877237
you didn't list which 3 they are you dumbass

>>54876706
I like the Flesheaters. Which is cheaper, Disciples of Tzeentch or Flesheater Courts?

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I like Norsca.

Regarding Slaves to Darkness: I'm thinking about starting a StD skrimish warband, however, i dislike not having any ranged options, and as far as i can see it right now, StD are melee (excluding casters). What are some nice, fluffy ways to bring some ranged attacks into the warband? I also like Nurgle, do any of the demons have range attacks? Was thinking about painting the StD in a Nurgle theme anyway.

>>54877247
Spooky ghosts, spider gobbos, and Wyches. I didn't think it mattered much because they're not really a full faction on their own, and ghosts had the other starter box even though it wasn't a faction anymore.

>>54877534

You have to be 18 to post here

>>54877237
>new SC box for each one
mini-factions are dead. those aren't start collecting boxes, they are an allied detachment box. Basically admission from GW that the mini-factions are never and were never meant to receive expansions to make them complete armies.

>>54877568
>im probably older than you bud

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>>54877570

Well, fuck this game then. Everything I wanted to play either doesn't exist anymore or isn't actually a faction.

>>54877653
I know, that's why I am waiting for an Aelves release to drop. I already bought and painted all the elves they currently sell and I'm not spending more $$$ until its for an actual army that gets a battletome.

>>54872090
Yeah I guess, it's just that a lot of cool units that could really make some of the smaller factions shine as allies are now just out of reach in 1000 pts. Which is my prefered size like I said.

>>54877416
Disciples get a way with a lot less models, but hey don't have a Start Collecting box and their models are very new, at least in part, so there won't be that much of a difference.

>>54877805
What else would I need in addition to the SC for Flesheaters?

>>54873154
Haven't played it yet, but looks like fun. It's on a bigger scale than mordheim, which is closer to Skirmish (which is a bit underbaked, but very accessible)

After a battle you get x amount of Glory which can be spend on upgrades for units/heroes or on buying new units. The book details upgrades for every faction in the game to some degree (not every order army has their own table, but Elves, Dwarves and Humans each get a table for their race)

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>>54870943
>using Warhammer art for Age of Sigmar

>>54877714
Can you post a pic of the army atm and what kind of list you are planning on? Curious to see what Grand Elf army looks like.
>>54877570
Or that's just what you are reading into it?
>>54877954
Yeah how bizarre, are you gonna tell me people also use Warhammer miniatures for Warhammer: Age of Sigmar?

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>>54877570
>mini-factions are dead. those aren't start collecting boxes, they are an allied detachment box

You are full of shit and I will show you why
- 4 out of 8 boxes are designed well enough to grant you models you need to build up a legal 1000pts army if you buy two of them - just like start collecting.
- The StD box is a great way to round out the StD start collecting army and it will be cheaper than the SC! box
- The Warherds gives you a behemot and a battleline - everything you need is just a hero and you can run a 1000pts army
- Two of the factions that get an alliance box also get new allegiance abilities in new GHB (StD, Nighthaunt)

Also just look at other factions with new AAs - Darkling Covens, Free People, Wanderers etc. Even the fuckin meme-tier Brayherds gonna get something in this edition. You are just a salty malcontent

>>54877714

I played Wood Elves from the end of 6th through about 5 months into 8th when my LGS closed, so I know what you mean. I loved them. AoS looks fun, but Wanderers don't even look close to how WE played. In fact, they look completely unremarkable and largely than other archers. I have some Sylvaneth stuff, including the big Christmas box, but I haven't even touched it yet. I thought it would hold my interest more, but I eyeing those other factions. I think my interest may have just died completely.

>>54877989
Hrm. I guess I should just wait for GHB2 then?

>>54874471

I dig it, bro. SCE always gets shat on as generic/boring but their origins at least give quite a bit of creative freedom.

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QUICK!
You've been given 400 ameribux to make your next army (no discounts allowed).
Post and rate.

I am more of a painter, play maybe once a month so i'd go with this.

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>>54877967
Or maybe it's because AoS art looks like...well...

>>54877653
You can still play them if you want? I really fail to see a problem, unless you want to dedicate your whole life to one faction that never had much representation anyway (like forest goblins in old WFB), in which case you shouldn't care if they want to expand it or not.

>>54878032
I'd swap out the Wood Elves for more Tree people and some woods. Gotta get those niggers a backdrop.

>>54878042
Nice, haven't seen this one. Anything's better than more of that overhyped Blanche shitster.

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>>54878042
Anon, I~

>>54877570
>>54877653

Why be downers for no good reason? There's literally no evidence for your doomsaying shit.

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>>54878062
>nice
you are a no-taste fagget

>>54878098
>colors like smeared shit
>composition like smeared shit

No wonder WFB sold like shit.

>>54878098
>literally posting shit-tier art
Like a poetry

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>>54878116
You are right!
Now I see the truth! THIS IS A MASTAPIECE

>>54878085

Holy shit, nice.

>>54877653

Unless you're going hardcore tourney-mode, all of those factions work just fine, especially now with allies.

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>>54878032
Haven't started playing AoS yet, but this would get me pretty much every model I like, with a couple exceptions, as well as plenty of skellies to paint, kitbash, and tarpit with.

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>>54878142
>>54878133
>>54878116
The day of the rope cant come soon enough.

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>>54878155
>Not all bone zone
Fixed your army for you.

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>>54878032
Derp

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>>54878136

Not him, but I prefer the art you posted to the oldhammer one.

Overall I think I prefer the style of AoS art more (not always, of course. There's the occasional dreadful stuff in there).

The only problem I have is that they keep having to depict the same miniatures over and over again because of legal stuff. It gets really silly in the Beastclaw book.

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>>54878190
>>54878152
>>54878142
explain this

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>>54878176
The thought crosses my mind regularly. Every time I go to the LGS, I have to hold back my temptation not to buy out their stock of skeletons right away. They still have some of the old Tomb King models, too.

>>54876546
Oh no there is nothing wrong with your fluff. Its great. Just I made my own fluff for my legacy army off the original fluff, so wouldn't be able to get a Stormcast fluff even formed together in some way.

>>54878222
You should buy the TK asap. You could flip them on Ebay if you don't want it (tomb guard, skele-snakes, necrosphynx, casket all get good money)

>>54878237
I can explain stormkikes if you'd like.
>Stormcucks are the heralds of snigmar
>Samecast are the souls of other dead Lamecast
>Shamecasts die and get reforged into other Snorecast, but lose some of their memories and personality
>Cuckcasts are basically ultramarines teleporting in and beat stuff up.

>>54878260
They've been sitting there for years, and nobody else has even touched the box to look at it, so far as I know. I'll head there later this week to get them.

>>54878222
Better off dropping a black knight and a skele box and getting a start colleting deathrattle to get arkhan almost for free. Its worth it even for the bits

>>54878299
Well if its a LGS tell them "hey I see this shit has been here for a long time. If you want to make your money back and free up shelf space, what is the lowest youll go for the entire lot".
You might get a crazy deal since unmoved product on a shelf basically costs a store money.

>>54878318
I might actually get that SC. Also, can the Tomb Kings be used in AoS?

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>Black Coach is Nighthaunt
>NH has literally 0 faction wizards

>>54878336
They refuse to haggle on anything, or update prices. There's a YGO card they have in their case marked at $18, even though recent reprints have tanked the value to a dollar or two at best, and they refuse to hear it.

>>54878344
yeah buddy. Here are the rules: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-tomb-kings-en.pdf

Points are in the GHB, but will be for free on the site once the GHB 2 comes out.

>>54878336
You'd think so. I've seen stores sit on literal dead games, and not lower the price one bit. Good luck moving those Alkemy minis!

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>>54878352
>Mortal Engine in NH start collecting
>No nighthaunt keyword
>Buffing wizards

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What are your favourite miniatures?

Mine's pic related, just gorgeus.

>>54877924
Start Collecting and Nightfeast Hunters are both solid bundles that net you 30 Ghouls, 6 Crypt Horrors and a Ghoul-King on Terrorgheist. That'sa nice 980pts force.
Beyond that, I'd add another SC box as well as more ghoul boxes. You'll probably want a Varghulf or two was well, since To The King! is amazing and he's a potent fighter as well.

>>54878482
That reminds me of Mushihimesama. Is she good at dodging attacks?

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>>54878482

The Slaughterpriest with Hackblade. So nice looking I'm afraid to paint it and fuck it up. Only thing I don't like is the size. I know it's fluffy and all but fuck he makes every other model I have look like a midget.

>>54878032
4 x ~$25 for 4 x Black Ark Corsairs
2 x $65 for 2 x kharybdis
2 x $40 for 2 x Scourgerunner Chariots
2 x $20 for 2 x Black Ark Fleetmasters

Ally in
1 x ~55 Dreadlord/Sorceress on Black Dragon

$395 for 4 battle line, 3 behemoth, 2 heros, 1 ally behemoth/hero.

Love me some pirate aelves.

>>54878090

In my defense, I generally expect disappointment for things I like when it comes to GW. I happen to really like ghosts and want to do pure Nighthaunt because of it, so it seemed par for the course that I was fucked anyway.

>>54878560
Shit its actually $403. But my point stands.

>>54878517
Not really, but she can tank them no prob with 18 wounds and 3+ save lol

>>54878482

I fucking hate every <BIG STUPID MODEL!!!! > and think they were a mistake.

>>54878548
Yeah I have him too, from when he came with the magazine

I've thought about conversing him into a vampire, but I'll see

Until then, he'll just be there, but i also think he's a great model

>>54878585
Oh, hm, can I ask why?
I'm just curious

What army has the greatest allowance for custom paint schemes and personal fluffing? I'm thinking it would probably be something in the Death Alliance.

>>54878482
why is the bug so stiff while the rider is posing that distended way?
did the sculptor just attach two unrelated miniatures and called it a day?

>>54878136
Those stormcast wings look cool as heck

How can I paint them to look like that

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>>54878482
This fucker will always and forever be my favorite Citadel miniature.

>>54878622

Because every single one is an ugly, over designed mess covered in way too much shit for the sake of filling out as much empty space as possible.

>>54878729

Yes.

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>>54878482
Love this fella.

>>54878702

Really anything since the lore is so thin right now. But as far as future proofing, yes, probably Death.

>>54878397

Why is a ghost wizard such an impossible concept to GW?

>>54878858
>>54878886
Yesss some Night Hobbos

I actually have them both, they are not my favourites, but jeez I sure love them

>>54879179
>buy a necromancer
>paint ethereal paint job
>use ally rules to keep malignant allegiance
Gee that was easy

Also don't forget to run at least 9 mornguls

>>54879179
The new allegiance rules will give them a command trait that makes 'em wizards

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>>54879266
>just pretend this model is a ghost!
Gee wilikers! It's a shame I can't just pretend that it doesn't fuck army comp by making spirit hosts not troops!

>>54879292
So, they get a single wizard? Wow.

>>54879407
Are you retarded?

What army would be the best for vaporwave aesthetics?

>>54879603
>Play Nighthaunt
>Use Spirithost Battleline
>Include Necromancer
>SH no longer battleline
>No longer have legal army

>>54879603

Just a grumpy ass thread today.

Any new units in GHB2? Anything cool for Ironjawz?

>>54879683
Use your ghb2 ally points, they don't break battleline requirements you dolt

>>54879824
Do you see any GHB released now? So don't I. You can talk about it works in GHB17 when we see every single new rule tho

>>54879860
Hope the yeast infection clears up soon

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Show me your wip guys

>>54879824

I'm not the guy who responded, but he does have a point. It's not out yet, and we don't know everything, which really makes me not want to buy anything. On top of that, I don't know that if want to buy into a faction if that faction is just meant to be an ally faction. Am I just going to be assembling and painting my choice of 6 units forever?

>>54879824

I hate allies. I hated them when they happened in 40k, and I hate them now. While, I'm glad there's a limit, I hate that certain armies literally can't function without them.

>>54879670
high elves, or whatever they call them these days

>>54879708
That Sigmar thread yesterday didn't help. This was a comfy general over the last two weeks or so but that AoS thread yesterday got a ton of Fantasy ragers hawking the thread as they were reminded of their bitter feelings.

>>54879683
I'd really like to see a mechanic for certain armies where you can "purchase" keywords like wizard, etc. for situations like this. A banshee or tomb wraith should be able to cast spells/summon, for an appropriate points bump. Alleviates the need for ally bullshit. Im sure it could create balance problems in some armies though

>>54880046
or perhaps just a re-release of certain warscrolls which offer these upgrades

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>>54879900

Gotta finish the base and fix up some bits, but ready to move on and paint the rest of his unit assembly line style.

>>54880008
Welcome to the nurgle mortals club. Enjoy your blightkings

>>54880008
I think the allies system here is less ridiculous as 40k's original inception. 200 points for 1k is the equivalent of a single allied unit, its not that big a deal.

>>54880137
Is not as ridiculous*

>>54880137
Doesn't mean I have to like it. If I want to field an all Nighthaunt ghost army, I'm at a significant disadvantage compared to one that includes something allied such as a Necromancer.

>>54880223
To be fair anon, barring some of the more expanded factions I think going for a pure theme army wasn't really expected.

For example even in Warhammer Fantasy, a Goblin themed army would normally comprise ALL Goblins, normal, night and forest. This is mainly because each one had some critical the others lacked, like Warmachines and such. Or Trolls if you really want to extend it.

I don't see why its such a huge deal to add a Necromancer to a Nighthaunt army. Like, I am gladly going to add Troggoths to my legacy army for the exact reasons above and its quite easy to fit it into the fluff, particularly Necromancers and ghosts.

>>54878219
That's not intended to be art to be in awe of, it's just to better show the paint schemes of some factions to mimic.

>>54878219
The second and third Orc would be so much improved if they added some form of spiky helmet.

>>54880223

Fucking pure autism. Are you stamping your feet and covering your ears as you post? Be a fucking adult. People have offered compromises and hope for the future. If you can't accept either of those, you're just being a child.

>>54880304

Do necromancers even do anything for Nighthaunt besides be a wizard?

>>54880451
Being a wizard is a pretty critical aspect of most armies. Dispel, support, offensive magic.

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>>54880362

You can do that without doing it on MS paint

>>54880475

In AoS? I'm a big 6th edition fantasy player looking to start trying some AoS... can you explain to me the role wizards play now? It kinda seems like they all just cast the same set of spells plus an extra okay spell.

>>54880400
>wanting to play one faction is autism

>>54880475

It would just be a generic wizard in Haunts because it's signature spell can't r 'em be used on them, though. Is it really that worth it?

>>54880624
It's not intended to be art, it's intended to be illustration. There's a difference, and part of that is that illustration doesn't have to look good. If it does, that's just gravy.

>>54880650
Losing their shit at including one sub 200 point army that would still be thematicaly appropriate.

>>54880650

No, acting like a little brat about it is. People have tried to discuss options and ways forward with you, and you've done nothing but whine and whine like a spoiled child.

I get wanting to play just one faction. There are things I'd like to do too, that aren't currently supported. But I don't act like the game is shit and everyone who likes it is shit because I can't get my way.

>>54880667

>I can make an inferior product and blame the decline in quality as not being art because I'm a cheap and/or lazy sack of shit

Okay

>>54880640
Not as explodey or ott but their role can range from support, buffers, or snipers depending on army. But they have been toned down a fair bit compared to other warhammer editions. Support I guess

>>54880723
But it actually isn't art. It is not intended to look good in and of itself, it is intended to provide an image of another object and, if done right, accurately convey its appearance.

Quality of the image doesn't enter into it beyond accuracy regarding the models. As such, it has to appear exactly the same as an existing model. That's why the old version was done on graph paper and the new version was copypasted - the new method allows for greater accuracy.

>>54880702

When did I say the game was shit? The only options are "take shit that's not part of your faction!" and I don't like that. Why is it so wrong to want a Nighthaunt wizard that buffs Nighthaunt units instead of being forced to ally in a model from a different faction with 0 synergy solely because it's a wizard?

>>54881062

It's not wrong to want that, mate. I already said as much. The problem is your bitching and moaning at every single reply just because you're unwilling to compromise or wait. People are just trying to help. If you're not going to participate in any discussion besides "but I don't want to!!" then why are you even here? Feeding a victim complex? Fucking Christ.

>>54881201

I'm Just upset at the fact that the army I want to play isn't even a real army. None of the factions really jump out at me as much as Haunts, and the only way I can at it is by not actually playing it and including outside tax. I WANT to find a faction that I can enjoy.

why the fuck aren't any of the new boxes TOMB KINGS

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What if we all dont buy AoS minis and act like we dont know what it is?I see it as a good plan to bring back our game

>>54882314
I'm never getting WHFB 3e back

but I have the rules, and I have KoW, and AoS

and I love all three games

>>54882314
whfb was a shit game

aos is much better

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>>54882402
>>54882463
A new edition with improved rules(aos tier) and single miniatures.

If you like the aos lore,then go fuck yourself god-lover faggot childish retard

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>>54882463
>there are people who truly believe this

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>>54882506

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>>54882463
Rulewise probably but not in fluff.

>>54882505
>>54882535

>muh generic germanic kingdom

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>>54882541
>>>muh generic germanic kingdom
>generic germanic kingdom
>generic germanic
>generic

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>TFW love and play both games

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>>54882541
There is only two other well known fantasy setting with Germany, if its generic it would be England.

>>54882579
same

>>54882541
You mean the only mainstream Holy Roman Empire inspired fantasy setting? You sure you know what "generic" means?

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>>54882579
Only thing i love about AoS is thicc Alarielle.

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>>54882541
Who hurt you sweet child?

>>54882579
>I tell people how happy i am with both games to show my superiority

t.conformist

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Hey, I'm new to Sigmar and also play 40k.
What would be the best way to run a pure Chaos Warriors/Slaves to Darkness army? I wouldn't mind adding some Everchosen stuff either.

>>54882663
what do you mean best?

Khorne is the strongest with access to priests and bloodsecrators and an actual battletome

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>it's another "fantasycucks are shitposting in aosg" episode

>>54882663
Chaos knight synergy is where it's at for Slaves to darkness. Toss in a hell cannon or two and you can snipe all the characters you want.

>>54882729
We will never fall.Once the third game of TWW will be released we will put a bomb in the GW headquarters and force them to sell every unit in the game,and delete age of sigmar of existence

>>54882821
delusion.txt

Red pill me on Wanders. Is fielding a shitload of Glade guard and Waywatchers a usable army, or am I forced to buy a bunch of new shit?

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>>54879900
made some spite swarms because I think it's a better use for the billions of spites you get on each Sylvaneth sprue than just base deco. I count them as Jungle Swarms, though I seriously down the allies rules will allow me to take Seraphon stuff with my treeple. Still need to do a lot of touching up on them.

>>54882950
allies are literally anything that shares a grand alliance with you

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I like this box
It has all the skelegates I love
The skelelord
The skeleguards
The skeleknights
It's perfect

>>54878873
you're wrong and dumb

>>54882950

cute basing anon

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>>54883071
That's only true if you're stormcast. You have a list of Allies for each faction. The fuckers on that list are the guys you can take 200-400 points off without breaking Allegiance. For example, Moonclan Grots may ally with the list provided in the picture without breaking Allegiance

>>54883415
Of not off.

But notice, there are no Ironjawz, no Bonesplitterz, no Gutbusters and no Beastclaw Raiders. Taking them would break Moonclan Allegiance.

>>54883134

I like the Nighthaunt box, but idk how much better it is than the Malignants box. I guess it depends on the price, really.

anyone have some nice paper terrain pdfs I can use for AoS? ideally some that can be folded for transportation without ruining them

thanks

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How is pic related? I always wanted to do a DoK army, but them not having any sort of starter box kind of three me off. Not to mention is be a little worried about not having any sort of diversity to my units.

can someone tell me what skeleton lore there is for aos

im new

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>>54878032
I have no idea what I'm doing because I only played pre-AoS Skaven but wouldn't mind getting into AoS and playing Dorfs

People of /aosg/, I'm looking to start this game, but there are so many options that I like. Sell me on your faction!

>>54883876
No one actually plays. Game is ded as thread because of 8th

>>54883876

If you have a lot of money and enjoy trees, you'll love bullshitting your way across the table with Sylvaneth. Lots of nice models and paint scheme choices, too.

Thread's been shitpost central all day though, so you're probably better off finding another AoS community to help you get going. I'm about to peace out myself because these threads are getting as bad as /v/. You'd think a niche hobby would be free from "my team vs your team" faggotry, but apparently not.

>>54884068
Where would you go?

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Fucking finally some acknowledgement of actual humans in aos.

>>54884068
I don't have a lot of money, but a lot of the Sylvaneth models look gorgeous. How do they play? And where are good AoS communities?

>>54884230
Apparently, they play really well because they're a waac-fag army.

How do dwarves work in AoS if I wanted to get into it? There seems to be like 3 different factions?

>>54884115

No idea yet, man, sorry. Maybe the grand alliance forums.

>>54884230

They're pretty tactics-heavy, with a focus on helping yourself and hurting your opponent with their forests. This is where the extra money comes in, since you have to buy these forests.

1d4chan has a great page on them that could help you much better than I'd be able to.

>>54884233
So wait, if I played the tree people because I like the way they look, I'd get called a WAAC-fag? That's retarded.

>>54884298
Buffs and debuffs? This is sounding more and more enjoyable, but are the forests those $88 Wyldwood boxes? That seems crazy. What would you say are some fun factions?

>>54884385
So, looking into more detail, I'm liking the design of the following:

>Stormcast
>Seraphon
>Malignant
>Nighthaunt
>Soulblight

>>54884455
Seraphon are my favorite, but the lore on them is practically non-existent. Still cool lizard men who ride dinosaurs and fun to play.

Stormcast get a bad rap because they are Space Marines in fantasy but they have some distinctions that makes them better than Space Marines. I don't mean better as in combat I mean better as in characters arguably. The stormcast eternals are warriors chosen after death to fight in sigmar's army and reforged to be the best they can who have loved ones and memories and everything else from their past lives, this is in contrast to Space Marines that are grabbed indoctrinated and trained to be killing machines who only know contempt. Personally speaking while I can appreciate the attempt at making a race of super soldiers who are Unique Individuals with their own Passions I still don't like the overall design of them they're just not to my taste.

The three death factions you can just about mix together with no penalties, heck the malignant box's big unit can be alternatively built as a soulblight thing, so pick and choose your favorites.

>>54884385

Nah, not really a huge line of buffs or debuffs. More along the lines of deployment strategy, positioning, etc. Tactical stuff. And yes, the 88 dollar Wyldwood box. It's a tough pill to swallow, but that's par for the course with GW.

>>54884455

Stormcast are always going to be the most updated faction just because they're the poster boys. If you like beefcakes, they're your dudes. Seraphon has a lot of variety and a good amount of lore since they're literally the same guys from WHF (IIRC).

Not too sure about the Death boys. No one really plays them in my group. Thinking of starting Soulblight myself, but waiting for new Blood Knights.

>>54884524
Oh yeah, I love the whole "eternal warriors of Valhalla" thing that the Stormcast have; that's one of the reasons that they're one of my favorites in Sigmar, while I hate SMs in 40K. Also, the Stormcast armor design is much better. How do each of those armies play?

>>54884544
Ah, Sylvaneth sounds really fun, but an extra $88 just to start makes me trepidatious. How much customization is allowed with Stormcast? Seraphon also look pretty cheap, moneywise.

Prices (£) for new allies boxes:
Deathrattle 40
Nighthaunt 32,50
Collegiate Arcane 25
Aleguzzlers 45
Daughters of Khaine 60
Grots 40?
Warherds 45?
Slaves to Darkness 60?

Not sure about the last 3, image got removed right after I read it.

>>54884546
Seraphon are crazy, they have both really good tough units and weak fast units and a couple of ridiculously good casters but not many options in the casting Department. Right now they are hindered because they don't have good alliance rules like the tree people do.

If you're concerned with this or concerned with the tree people being played by faggets right now just understand that the new rules that will put everybody on the same level as the tree people are coming out in 2 weeks so really just play with whoever you think are the coolest looking.

Stormcast I have not actually seen anyone play but I did play a demo with them ages ago when age of Sigmar first came out, they are basically the space Marines of the setting. Good and decently tough but at the same time a bit jack of all trades master of none. Granted I only played them once 2 years ago so if somebody comes along and corrects me on this you should probably listen to them.

Soul blight is focused around elite units that you will have to do conversions for because the blood Knights or whatever they are called are stupidly expensive, don't really know much about the other death armies but in general they are weak infantry and strong casters and leaders.

>>54884591
>Deathrattle 40
>Nighthaunt 32,50

>Deathrattle $52
>Nighthaunt $42

Death is starting to look like a cheap, viable option. Would 2 of those Nighthaunt allies boxes make a good starting point?

>>54884582
You do not technically have to use the Games Workshop Forest unless you are playing at a Games Workshop store. You can always make your own forest out of model train trees and foam board.

>>54884595
>>54884603

Alright. So, between appearance and playstyle, I have it narrowed down to Seraphon, Stormcast, or Death, and leaning more towards Seraphon or Death. Which of the two would be cheaper to build towards? And which gives me a decent start straight from SC?

>>54884617
That is really tough to pick. I am honestly not sure about death but I am very happy with my purchases with Seraphon.

>>54880650
No being absurdly rigid is what constitutes Autism. Nothing is stopping you including a Necromancer rules wise. Nothing is stopping you from coming up with a cool mini.

and all you can retort is
>ITS NOT A GHOST, ITS NOT A SPOOK, ITS NOT A SPECTRE

Grow up man, if you keep setting arbritary limits to complain about army selection I suggest you quit altogether.

And yes, GBH 2017 is not out yet, but it's going on pre-order next week, and the allies rules have already been leaked. Waiting for the actual release of the book makes sense of course, but its just around the corner.

>>54884598
I think so. We don't know how good it'll be with GH2 but at the very least it'll be a decent start, and their allegiance ability seems fun.

>>54884657
Alright. Would the SC box for Malignants still be worth picking up? I have a lot of trade credit at my LGS from when I quit Magic.

>>54884666
Yep, with the new allies system the Mortis Engine no longer breaks your allegiance. The model is pretty as fck too! Besides, you can never have enough Spirit Hosts and Hexwraiths imo

>>54884678
Alright. I think I'll start there, then. Is there any other unit I should look for that'd be important? They do still have some old WHFB stuff.

Did some dirty number crunching, and here's what I came up with for discounts in the new boxes

Warherds is a 25% discount
Slaves to darkness is a 23% discount
Daughters of khaine is 26%
Battle wizards is 33%
Spiderfang 30%
Gargants 30%
Deathrattle 27%
Nighthaunt 27%

So the wizards are the best deal, and the slaves to darkness is the worst

>>54884731
Those Spiderfangs are damn tempting, but I do love spooky ghosts and skellingtons

>>54884703
Hmm depends, if you want to get competitive the Mourngul (forgeworld) is really good although we don't know the updated point costs yet. I would hold of big purchases until GH2 comes out. Get working on the SC now, buy the allies box next and then see how it goes.

>>54884753
Alright. Thanks for the advice!

>>54884650

It's not just that its not a ghost (even though that does tickle the autism something fierce), it's that there is no synergy. Like at all. His spell does nothing for the spooks, so he's just a bland wizard.

>>54884807
Read the Warscrolls for Spirit Hosts and Hexwraiths.

>>54884807
How about a vampire lord then?

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>>54884817

Have you?

>>54884841
I did, actually. It could almost pass for a ghost with the spirit abilities.

>>54884904
DEATH WIZARD just means it has DEATH and WIZARD as keywords, which Necromancer has.

>>54884960
Yes, he's a generic wizard with. Spell that has zero synergy with ghosts

>>54884960

Do you mean he can summon? Wow wee. You mean I could attempt to summon the units I was going to bring anyway instead of bringing them anyway? Especially since I can psuedo summon with GHB2 anyway? Is that what you mean?

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>>54878482
My favorite are the Putrid Blightkings

Returning WE ayer here. Why is Drycha a Gundam?

>>54885406

'cuz it's awesome looking, man.

>>54885406
The Everqueen took her lifeseed to a place of evil and planted it there. This incarnation of Drycha though a new person is tormented by a mesh mash of the broken memories of the original Drycha, the evil influence of her birth place, and also her love for her mother the Everqueen. Basically, she is a teenager with mother issues.

>>54884591
Prices (£) for new allies boxes:
Deathrattle 40
Nighthaunt 32,50
Collegiate Arcane 25
Aleguzzlers 45
Daughters of Khaine 60
Grots 40
Warherds 45
Slaves to Darkness 50

I'm disappointed with DoK price desu. I hoped they will cost as much as start collecting and they end up even more expensive tho. On the other hand Nighthaunt are even cheaper than the warband box and I actually might buy one for skirmish

>>54875730
>buy two of these boxes
>chop up the mortis engine to make banshees, wraiths and move hex wraiths

im gonna do it

>>54882505
AoS lore has the potential to be far more interesting and involving than muh reich vs alcoholic dorfs and three flavors of elves.

>>54885335
Those look pretty cool, I love hard decay effects, in my skeletons I use rust and verdigri quite heavily

>>54884138
You now realize this box only exists because Stormcucks have no magic, only prayers. So now they can ally in these wizards.

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>>54885845
I agreed with you until I played total war.
There is something about having an actual map and actual places that is more interesting than "somewhere in this endless realm"

>>54878176
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>>54882314

>tfw still buying whfb models from GW to complete my whfb armies but GW will put this down in their ledgers as a success for AoS while AoS kiddies online will put this down as an affirmation of the Stormcast Eternals

Help.

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>>54879900
Stripping and redoing pic related a bundle at a time

>>54886315
>your 100 quid can skew the whole thing.
Unless we get data that proves that X% of sales is for miniatures, your statement is still quite empty. Mind you, the endless slinging of facts and evidence about the success of GW/AoS is fcking tiresome. Most evidence is circumstantial, anecdotal or plainly made up so I don't see why people keep discussing it.

>>54886329
The success of GW comes from their own financial reports and comments that its selling better than they had wanted from their expectations. That's the primary source of evidence people use barring the usual anecdotal "No one plays in my store" vs "Loads play in my store". Its clear its made some impact but still, like all GW games, far behind 40k.

>>54886378
Yeah the GW financial report is probably the only trustworthy source, since it's legally binding document and shit.

However, since they don't state exact details and can still embellish it to inspire confidence from investors, it's not the end all document to answer the question: Is AoS a success.

Now mind you, nobody is actually interested in answering the question. They've made up their mind and are just fishing and looking for evidence to support their claim. Why you'd need evidence of success to validate your choice of a niche gaming system is beyond me, but then again Console, Edition, etc-Wars have always been a thing in geek culture.

Yeah but theres very little space for your dudes in those maps. Heck those maps are a good example why it doesn't work as armies/models disappeared to make space for others.

I personally think the Kharadron Overlords maps are just the right amount of ambiguity while keeping it as an actual map.

Lore question for you ch/aosg/ents, what (if any) difference is there between casting a spell and having a god answer a prayer?

Guys, why can't find/purchase this for my country?

I'm from spain

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/battleforce-ironjawz-thunderfist

>>54886417
I think GW's side comment about it "surpassing expectations" (paraphrased) is more than enough evidence that, maybe its not being ripped from the shelves but its definitely a success from their view.

The big question is why so many people are wanting to push down AoS in regards to its success? I know there is bitter people on here, a lot more from WHF but why they feel the need to blindly tear down AoS.

Its so stupid, they're both games which brings a lot of joy to lots of different (or same) people.

>>54886443
Because it's sold out, these was Christmas special box from last year. Look what month is it now?

Maybe this year you should stay awake during winter.

>>54886507
Oh ok, I didn't look that, I just felt hyped and then confused lol

Thanks!

>>54886325
>redoing
But why, they look fine imo

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>Get tired with chaos
>Decide to buy a NH allies box to have some fun with skirmish
>Gf has birthday in two weeks
>She asks me for the Deathrattle allies box as bd gift because she needs a break from order

>>54885999
I knew I wasn't alone in my map-fuelled autism.

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>>54878886
Mine

>>54886817
>Implying women play warhammer

I wish to build army of spooky-scary-skeletons.
Are they playable? I heard pretty bad because of lack of special books or something.
Should/can i mix units from Death Grand Alliance sub-factions?
Can i use square bases?

>>54887319
>I wish to build army of spooky-scary-skeletons.
sure, go for it
>Are they playable? I heard pretty bad because of lack of special books or something.
Everything is playable, and with the new Generals handbook more factions will get access to their own command traits and artifacts
>Should/can i mix units from Death Grand Alliance sub-factions?
You can mix and match anything from your grand alliance
>Can i use square bases?
Yes, there isn't a rule written down anywhere that you can't have square bases. But it's better to check with your local gamign scene to see if they have any houserules in place

Have fun with your hobby Anon!

>>54887291
No, men play warhammer. Women are mainly painting and making nice stuff from sprues and trash and then they are in awe of their work. Playing games is just the best way to show off their stuff and get the praise. Can't blame for this tho - that's what we all want to do

>>54884385
The $88 wildwood one will get you 3, and for most armies that's all you'll need, and they can get pretty WAAC if you build right, but most of the time they hang around mid-high tier with strong shooting and devastating melee with things like spirit of Duurthu dealing a flat 6 wounds per swing

>>54887319
>Can i use square bases?
Better go with round ones. All new stuff come with round bases

>>54886912
Goddamn that's solid anon. I still need to make mine, never mind paint. Will post once I do. Still, 10/10. Good show representing best Gobbos!

>>54886673
Not a fan of how heavy the drybrushing turned out, so I'm going to do a more glaze focused one for my highlighting around the face and chest areas on them, a lot like this dudes ones, only with pink instead for the tear, runes, and leaves

https://youtu.be/cTwUdWFWvCc

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Little help. I got my Moonclan Grots and split between Spears or Stabbas. What should I equip them with? Stabbas got 4+/4+ but Spears got 5+/4+, with a 2 inch range. What is the best?

>>54887387
Thanks, Anon. I wish to start with Mantic Skeleton Horde (40 miniatures for ~30$) and take Deathrattle new set with Wightking, Graveguard and Black Knights.This is almost 750 pts roster and nice painting challenge
for me.
>>54887424
But i like nice and steady lines of warriors. Also, where i can get ~40 25mm bases?

>>54887776
Local Games Workshop anon. You can get a large set of bases from there, granted its mixed, like it will come with x 10 25mm bases with another group. But not *too* expensive if you get 4.

>>54887776
aliexpress

>>54887776
I get my round bases from bitz sellers, I got 100 25mm bases for about £10 from one for my Skaven.

>>54887800
>>54887891
In my local community and non-GW store there is no such things.
>>54887810
Too long.

Also, as i said above, i just like square ones. Its almost impossible to get round bases in really straight line.

>>54887944
>Its almost impossible to get round bases in really straight line
Please, at least say that you are running an organised army like freeguild or stormcast

>>54887976
>Even in death i pedant and strict

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>>54887976
>not using bases with diagonal slots in random directions to show a rabble of models in a blob that's slightly more square than normal
It's like you're not even trying

>>54887697
>stabbas
Never fucking ever. Take them with spears or leave them at home. Also, load up on nettas.

So does anyone know where I can get a pirated version of this new Path to Glory book?

>>54885999

Agreed. Playing Total War also made me appreciate how easy battles and wars could start between factions, hell even the same faction fighting itself.

>>54888315
Gotit. I assume the range is the primary issue of stabbas?

>>54888617
I always found it hard to think up how Lizardmen would fight with Khemri or Norse with Orcs and Goblins. You have a host of Empire in between them and mountains. Maybe I just wasn't creative but I always pointed that as an advantage of 40k over Fantasy. The Galaxy was so big, ANY matchup was possible.

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What are you working on today /aosg/?

I just finished this knight heraldor

>>54888641

>I always found it hard to think up how Lizardmen would fight with Khemri or Norse with Orcs and Goblins.

Agreed. Thats actually what had me lean towards 40k as well. But then I got creative.

>Lizardmen vs Khemri
An ancient magical artifact is needed for the Old Ones plans. The Lizardmen invade North from the Southlands. Even if you don't have a Southlands themed Lizardmen army, say they used an ancient portal between two temples to move an Army from Lustria to the Southlands, then they attacked North.

>Norse with Orcs and Goblins.

Easy one, Norse raid the coast all the way down to the badlands, or an Orc Waaagh comes out from the Mountains to Norsca's East.

Or, if you ever are struggling, just have them meet in Albion. Every faction had a presence there and everyone was fighting.

>>54888737
Well fair play even coming up with those solutions but even during my teens, I just squinted at some and thought "Eh?". I suppose a better one would be Khemri and Dark Elves. At least Beastmen are all over the world.

Other matchups I just found dull. Like Orks and Tyranids in 40k, Space Marines vs Guardsmen, Tau vs Necrons. The matchup dynamic was pretty amazing. But Lizardmen vs Dark Elves for some reason (just one of a few examples) didn't feel very enticing.

It was a mix of things, on top of the geographical, what I saw, limitations. That said I am thinking AoS went the opposite extreme as some kind of shotgun effect of "YOU CAN DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING". That said I am not mad about the fluff but I also don't hate it like what seems to be many WHF fans.

Hell the main reason I am getting into AoS is because it has my night goblins. That and as much as I was invested in the fluff, nothing lasts forever. Though the ending definitely could have been put to rest much nicer, I felt Fantasy had hit a brick wall. Not the setting, nor narratively, but it had been "complete" so to speak.

So something fresh and new which certainly has a lot of cracks and crinkles, is still nice to be on board with.

Plus I am spoiled that I am a super Blood Bowl fan so I get a wacky, happy, insane version of the Old World with something just as open and fun as 40k.

So, with the new Handbook, and the allies system, am I still going to be able to do my idea of 4k of Order (1k of 4 different factions), vs 4k of chaos (1k of 4 different factions), or is that nill now?

>>54888646
No images but I got three troggoths/Trolls and my first night goblin regiment after god knows how many years. Then good ole Skarsnik himself.

>>54888887
Technically you could do that before. The only thing which changed is, you can have allies in your team without losing the benefit of your faction bonus. Like say if you had a special army warband which gave your units a certain hit bonus. That is no longer invalidated by having someone outside of that subfaction.

>>54888646
See >>54886325

>>54888938
Yeah I'm gonna do it either way I guess, just wanted to see if it was rules-cute

>>54888646
Try to make highlights smooth by adding some water to paints. Also, add additional layer of lighter highlights. Anyway, good.

>>54888641
>I assume the range is the primary issue of stabbas?
Pretty much. 1" range weapons are okay for 5 or ten guys, but you want gobbos in massive numbers, at which point the spear pulls ahead massively. Not to mention your first row will more or less always be net-grots with their nasty profile, so there is even less of an incentive to go stabbas.

>>54889445
Thanks. Poking Spear Gobbos it is. Yeah I read how good netters are. Apparently distinguishes Moon Gobs from normal Gobs to the point one is a little shroom from mush and the other is a giant squig with Chaos Warrior chomping teeth.

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>>54880650
>>54880223
>>54879407
>playing a cul-de-sac cuck army with like 4 units such as Nighthaunt
>complaining about lack of options and getting mad when they are presented

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ICANTPAINTFORSHIT: The army

>>54890342
Looks cool to me anon. Nicely done.

>>54890342

Oh nice I like that he used a Necron night-whatever. What does it count as?

>>54890342
It's clearly not finished yet

>>54884617
For seraphon its easy, pick the SC, build carno and use the skink to make a priest, use one model from the knights to build a scar veteran on cold one.

1 box of temple guard, they have enough bits to make some from the warriors in the SC box if you want, i made an Oldblood just for fun. Then you need a Bastiladon, its a beast and thats it, incredibly easy to paint.

That should get you to 1500 points easy. If you want to make more get the rippers or a slann and thats it.

>>54886442
Spells are drawn from the winds of magic, prayers are requests granted by the gods.

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>people un-ironically believing the new allied detachment bundles are start collecting boxes.
>people un-ironically believing the mini-factions getting allied detachment bundles will ever get an update to make them a viable complete army

sad

>>54890777
What this Anon >>54877989 said. He was only wrong about StD box price - it costs same as SC box. It's actually sad you are spending your time on trolling on mongolian cartoon porn image forum

>>54890777
But they are getting updates? GH2 has a host of updates.

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>>54890811
>>54890813
just cause its legal in matched play to make an army out of three under-preforming mini-faction units with no battle-tome doesn't make it a good idea.

shadow aelves when?

>>54890960
>Just because you can actually use the faction models and its new boxes to build up an playable army cheaply doesn't mean that this a playable faction
>Also remember about lack of battletomes - especially if we talk about factions that get new allegiance abilities in new GHB
Sure thing buddy

So the pricing info for the new general's handbook also included prices for sylvaneth warscrolls and others'.

What's up with that? Are sylvaneth getting nerfed?

>>54891076
>Are sylvaneth getting nerfed?
But why? Because GW releases fancy and handy warscrolls for them?

>>54890342
The Nightbringer there looks awesome!

>>54890458

Probably a Mourngoul

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>>54890342
Ghost Army is EZ. Doesn't matter the model. Ghost it and you can get your shit painted in 1 night.

>>54875485
Where is this on the store, I can't find it.
Link to info?

>>54891382
Coming out next weekend I think. Its just the preview for now

>>54891382
check warhammer commuity

>>54891394
>>54891395
Genuinely excited for this.
Girlfriend showed in interested in muh 40k shit, and decided to build some sylvaneth from sigmar cause its more her thing.

I've been thinking about getting into fantasy for a while now, even more so now that my qt3.14 is into it.

Dem witch elves, dem nighthaunts.
Can't wait to get gouged for 100+ dollars for them cause I live in didgeridoo land.

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>>54891395
Oh wow

I'm actually hyped for this! I already have one gint, but three of them with mi ironjawz will be a hell of a lot of fun lol

>>54885505

I mean it'll look like complete shit but sure

>>54891545

Maybe we'll get lucky one day and get a Giant hero that enables Giants to be battleline

>>54891808
>>54891545
Are Giants even good in AoS? Asking cause I am thinking of adding them as support to my Grots if my AoS TT experience goes neatly.

>>54891370
Any tutorial you have tried? I'm seriously thinking about ghosts for skirmish

>>54891826
They're okay-ish, but 180pts isn't terribly expensive.

What is better for novice -- Cairn Wraith with 3 Spirit Hosts or 10 Grave Guard? And can i make Black Knights from new Nighthaunt box?

so what are the rules for LoS?

Can I protect a unit from shooting by putting it behind another unit?

Is it just "if you cant draw a straight line from the shooting unit to the unit being shot at without it being obsctructed, you cant fire at it?"

>>54891826
I honestly just like how they look

My giant (I call him Pete the tall) is one of my very first warhammer models, and the idea of having a trio of them is pretty awesome in my head.

>>54892493
Grave Guard are a lot more straighforward, if that's what you're after.
And yes, the bundle boxes so far always have included all options for a kit, so there's no reason to assume otherwise of this one.

>>54892714
Only if models or terrain are completely blocking line of sight, as in you can't physically see the target model because of obstructing terrain or models from the point of view of the shooting models.

Otherwise it's a clear shot. Even if view is obstructed some, the target does not get a save bonus unless it is wholly within a terrain feature

>>54893569
NEW
>>54893569
BREAD
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