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[something funny and relevant to 40k that sets the mood for the new thread] edition

Reddit tier humor sub edition

>Hilarious™ Mortarion Reveal, also some terminators and stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJMu9G7Pyw8 [Open] [Open]

>Konor Campaign: Chaos Losing again...
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>Check your local store's contribution to the Campaign.
https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/
>Codex: Space Marines FAQ
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/10/codex-space-marines-errata-now-available/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in pdf & epub, SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-Anon doing Chaos' work)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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M-Morty
We've gotta *burp* we've gotta overthrow the Imperium Morty
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Got to say I'm surprised the Grey Knights and normal Chaos Marines don't seem to be getting new releases with their dexes. Thought at least the GK would get some kind of Primaris thing.
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>>54808789
Why did the top part of the store webpage suddenly change, did it really need a redesign already
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>>54808814

Too bad about season 3.
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>>54808814
>all this rick and morty DG shitposting
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Has anyone here every had a GF/BF/passable trap that was into 40k, if so what was that like? Did it get old or did it make the hobby even better?
I'd also just be fine hearing what it's like to have a significant other in general
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>>54808822
Saving releases for their own month
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>>54808832
Classic 4chan, "It's bad because it's popular," contrarianism
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>>54808840
>all this angry pumpkin posting.
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>>54808844
Im trying to become trap. Its counts?
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>>54808832
???
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I got drunk and decided to start a Death Guard army, how did I do?
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Captain – 74+15=89
++Combi plasma
Tactical – 130+4+15+10=159
++Power sword, grav gun, heavy bolter
Tactical – 130+15+13+10=168
++Combi plasma, plasma, heavy bolter
Tactical – 65+4+13=82
++Power sword, plasma
Scouts – 55+20=75
++5 sniper rifles
Scouts – 55+16+10=81
++4 sniper rifles, heavy bolter
Devastators – 65+84=149
++4 plasma cannons

Librarian – 116+12=128
++Jump pack, force sword
Sternguard – 80+8+10=98
++4 special issue bolters, heavy bolter
Vanguard Vets – 90+20+16=126
++Jump packs, 4 power axes, thunder hammer
Vanguard vets – 90+35=125
++Jump packs, 5 plasma pistols

Lt – 60+=63
++master crafted boltgun
Apothecary – 55
Apothecary – 55
The Imperial Space Marine – 60
++Disintegration weapons

1513

What 13 points do I drop?
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>>54808822
>GK getting anything new
Haha. On the bright side we did get access to stuff that we didn't previously have like Chaplains and the small SM planes.

What's fucking stupid is that GW "got rid of codex entries with no model that they sell", so they get rid of Juggerlords, Rifle Dreads and SM Bike Chars, but they want GK players to convert a Brother Captain and Chaplain? Why not just leave those converted models in the codex, then? Pick a fucking stance.
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>>54808849
Or
You know
It's just bad
And people who don't give a fuck about trying to fit in will say that
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>>54808849

No, this time it's the heavy handed writing and tonal shifts.

And the writers that forgot that 'show don't tell' is a cornerstone of visual media between seasons.

This is more a case of 'We're popular so it's time to get lazy.'
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>>54808832
I felt this way until the pickle Rick episode, then my sides left humanity behind
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>>54808865
Drop the hammer on the vanguard squad for something else
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>>54808814
I fucking despise rick and Morty but I still want to make this just to see how many people think the sight of rick is hilarious
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>>54808854
Yes it does
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>>54808868
We can still use them we just need the index
And chaplains is literally just a shoulder pad
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>>54808862
Just right Anon just right. You just in time to tilt the scales for chaos to take Konor!
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>>54808759
>>>54808427
>https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-Combi-weapon-Set-2015

Can confirm. These are great.
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>>54808814
>tfw like R&M
>chuckle at every episode other than shitty cross dimension cable episodes
>learn of plebbit tier fan base and cringe tier youtube theory videos that overanalyze every second
>never mention it online and tell no one I like it other than roommate
Will autism be what finally destroys mankind?
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>>54808862
You have chosen wisely

I too am drunk
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>>54808832
It only has three episodes out, two of which were fantastic. What is everyone's problem?
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>>54808914
Shit, hope my eBay purchase ships quickly
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>>54808913
I believe GW said that if there's a new entry in a codex for an index unit, you have to use the newer codex entry, which in the current codices, the regular and Ven Dreads do not have access to Autocannons.
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>>54808844
She likes space wolves but has trouble building and painting because she has limited feeling in her hands. Until her disabilitybux starts up we're trying to space out our purchases which works because she can't build too fast in the first place.
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>>54808922
Is it more of a slaneesh thing to do? I was tossing the idea around while I was sober, got drunk, then hit buy it now on ebay
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Need some advice lads. My store is planning a fuckhuge tank battle (or 2) for week 3 of Konor.

I have half a dozen or so spare Rhino chassis that I can run as either
Razorbacks
Whirlwinds
Deimos Predators (but no sponsons since I won't have time to make enough before the game)

What's the best option? Personally was leaning towards whirlwinds since I can leave them out of sight while the rest of my armour is doing the heavy lifting
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Some might remember last night I posted my unsprayed leman russes, this is them 20 hours later since I've been trapped at work the entire time
Didn't get as much progress I'd like done, but at least they are TT ready, now time to add a few more details and recess shades before going wild with the weathering effects

What's everyone else working on?
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DG players, what will you be using the little nurglings that come with Mortarion for (if you decide to pick him up)?
I was thinking of repurposing them into combat familiars and such, like I've seen some Tzeentch players do with the brimstones that come with the Lord of Change. Maybe build a mini palanquin for whichever nurgling I like the look of better.
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>>54808844
I have a boyfriend into 40k, he used to own Grey Knights but doesn't anymore, lost them in a couple of house moves, didn't want to start them up again because he doesn't want to collect the same models as before and paint them up again.
So he started Tau.
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>>54808990
Those are the Executioner variants right? I am not really that well versed in my Russes.
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>>54808972
nah, you lost your inhibitions through drink and chose to embrace happiness through Nurgle

all this is autism tho
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>>54808844
My gf wanted space wolves and then went nuts when she saw daemons of Khorne. So she has been proxying her SW as chaos marines and thunder wolf captain("chaos lord on juggernaut") and using her bloodletters. She really really likes painting and is very excitable during games once she got the swing of it. Even suggests we watch batreps while we paint.
>Pic is some of her stuff.
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>>54808972
Depends how drunk you got really.
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>>54809016
They asplode, yes. Every 1 is 6 mortal wounds and loses all it's plasma.
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>>54808862
You done good. More releases in September and October.
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>>54808974
whirlwinds would be the silliest, so I suggest going with that
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>>54808990
This is why you paint tracks on sprue.
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>>54808945
yes you have to use the newest version...but if you have a model with options that are not available in the newest version, you can use the index version which has the correct options. You have to use it exactl though...so if the newest version has a special rule that the old one didnt have, you dont get it. Also lets say the index versions base price was 75 points before weapons and then the codex drops the base price to 65, you will have to take it out of the index for 75 points in order to have access to the options that you have currently outfitted on your model
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has moratarion senpais brain teally been addled by nurgles rot?
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>>54809068
There is no rule forcing that WYSIWYG shit you liar
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>>54809088
Maybe. It's either that or he's just lazy.

Typhus, First Captain and Herald of Nurgle, has no respect for him.
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>gain a gigantic boner for one particular faction in your world circa 2007
>make an event in your fantasy game where this faction is supposed to win and fuck over everyone else
>make this event player-driven
>your faction loses
>get so angry that you retcon the whole event and a lot of the game's lore just a few years later than begin an event that you control and make your favorite faction win because they're just so good
>try to do the same thing with your scifi game a few years later
>begin with events and a line of backstory dedicated to making your favorite faction the strongest and destroying everyone else
>make them player-driven
>your favorite faction loses

How long until GW retcons FoK or just ignores it outright so their favorite faction blows up the universe because they're just that good but the Emperor escapes into a pocket dimension (ONLY because your favorite faction allows it) to start an Age for himself there?
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>>54808990

I'm sorry, anon, but they look gray tide. You really need to actually paint them, because this shortcut doesn't look good at all.
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>>54809129
>Fantashits STILL buttblasted
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>>54808868
Well Captains on bikes are also still in the SM codex, and those need to be converted/kitbashed too. GW is just extremely schizophrenic with what they remove, keep, or add.
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Is there a best way to run Bullgryns? Mauls vs the launcher and sheild vs sheild?
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>>54808990
Working on an Apothecary, white power armor is not fun.
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>>54809129
>LIterally has the audacity to claim that Chaos is the posterboy when Imperium gets handed literally every victory and new toys ever

Fuck off
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What's a cost effective way to transport your shit? Rather not buy 3 ugly gw black boxes
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>>54809063
I usually do, I traded a guy for them dirty cheap and he had them assembled with about 10x as much glue needed, there's some pretty ugly parts that you probably can't see in the pic, I'm sure I'll go back and clean that up when I'm doing details

>pic related on just massive globs of glue
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>>54809129
likely nobody will care in a couple of years, konors just a bigger Medusa (is best Rider) V
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>>54808968
I swear 50% of 40k players male or female have some sort of hand related disability...
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>>54809174
Did you start from a white undercoat ?
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>>54809129
Holy shit, can you be even more ass blasted than this?.
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>>54809127
>no respect for him

>be Night Lord
>primarch hates you

>be World Eater
>primarch kills you

>be Iron Warrior
>primarch has you beaten to death by your brothers in game of chance

>be Death Guard
>look down on you primarch
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>>54809174
>Well there's your problem
>Skins all black and slickly
>Gotta get that looked at back on the battle barge
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>>54809202
yea, I can't imagine how much longer it would take from black
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>>54808920
I hate when fanbases taint a property that is otherwise decent enough by itself. Jojo and undertale are the same.
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>>54809198

Excuses to not paint the grey tide
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Finally made it lads.

After years of not comitting to a single army I'm selling all my GW shit and starting Death Guard
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>>54809179
>>54809204
>every piece of warhammer 40k or fantasy fluff, army splat, and dev commentary has been "omg chaos is so amazing omg chaos is unstoppable omg chaos always wins omg let's jerk off the chaos gods"
>chaosfags get incensed over anyone complaining joking or even talking about this
you give chaos an inch, they take a parsec, and it's never enough
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>>54809198
just pay your nieces/nephews to paint them
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>>54809234
>Starting new flavor of the month flavor
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Raven Guard
HQ
Primaris Captain: Power Sword, Master-crafted Stalker Bolt Rifle - 96 pts
Primaris Lietenants: 2 Master-crafted Stalker Bolt Rifles - 150 pts

Troops
10 Intercessors: Auto Bolt Rifles, 2 Auxiliary Grenade Launchers - 212 pts
5 Intercessors: Power Sword, Auxiliary Grenade Launcher - 105 pts
5 Scouts: Camo Cloaks, Sniper Rifles - 90 pts

Elites
Primaris Apothecary - 68 pts
Primaris Ancient - 69 pts
10 Reivers: Grapnels Launchers - 200 pts

Fast Attack
3 Inceptors - 180 pts

Heavy Support
5 Hellblasters - 165 pts
5 Hellblasters - 165 pts

Total - 1500 pts

Was going to do 1k but figured I may as well just go to 1500. Is this any good? Going to infiltrate the Reivers and power sword Intercessors, maybe get a bit cheeky and infiltrate a Hellblaster squad too. Just worried no tanks might hurt, or that I don't have enough anti-armor.
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>>54809174
Idris Elba, you glorious motherfucker you look gorgeous
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>>54809132
>spend hours painting multiple thin layers of eshin grey on top of chaos black
>looks like grey tide
You're breaking my heart anon,I don't really consider them finished, any suggestions? Here's a side view, I was gunna do nuln oil in the recess then use a little typhus corrosion on some places, was considering some dull coat too but I'm not sure
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>>54809234
That's a nice scheme
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>>54809235
sluuuuuuuuuts
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>>54809235
*all fluff after 2011 or so

2011 was the year GW's Chaos bias really began to shit up the gaming creek. Before that it wasn't bad at all in most cases.
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>>54809234
Nice scheme
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>>54809234
Have fun man, they're pretty cool
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>>54809249

I've always liked chaos marines and I like almost every single DG model.

Also I've always wanted truescale and the new marines are truescale
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>>54809003
Anybody? Just kinda curious on some of the ideas other people have right now
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>>54809255
PAINT EVERY RIVET A NICE SHINY SILVER. DO IT FOR THE EMPEROR ANON.
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>>54809132
Wait unless you're that same anon who said everything that is a color lighter than black looks like grey tide for months
If so well memed
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>>54808789
WHY DID THEY REDO THR MOBILE PAGE FOR THEIR STORE ITS TERRIBLE NOE
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r8 my meme homebrew chapter, mateys.

If ye can guess the source, I'll record my next victory at Konor under your faction of choice.

Chapter: The Firstborn
Battlecry: Coalesce, League of the Firstborn!
Motto: Still shining bright in this desolate black.

"The weight of the galaxy is pressing down, but we will press back! We will press or martyr! Darkness, violence, bloodshed, loss, we are all still shining bright in this desolate black!" - Chapter Master Deathstar
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>>54809300
coalesce is code for gay sex right?
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>>54809300
Pretty sure thats not your paint scheme.
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>>54809287
>not drybrushing rivets
Looks like we got someone who plays a faction that invented welding here
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>>54809278
Then there's no issue. Just be mindful that many others started DG due to them being in the starter box.
Grab that half for cheap when you can btw.

>>54809282
Model isn't officially released...
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>>54809314
I thought everything was code for anti white?
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>>54809320
my faction will eat you

There's only 183 rivets on that side of the russ....just use the tip of the brush, if you dry brush its not as perfectly shiny.
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>>54809234
Looks great. Nice Glooming Lord.
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>>54809234
Looks great, anon. Enjoy them.
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>>54809327

Got all marines for 20$ including characters

The drone and the zombies look like utter shit, I'll use the FW drone and zombies or some nurgle Imperial Guard instead of the poxwalkers
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>>54809198
Technically mine's arm related, rather than hand, and it doesn't stop me painting, just means I need a bit of help with the fine details. Does that still count?
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>>54809327
I know the model isn't released yet anon. Doesn't mean people can't create ideas and stuff yet though.
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>>54809320
>having rivets

How embarrassing.
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>>54809378
It depends on personal taste of course, but I find them rather ... riveting
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>>54809395
You spent a lot of time in Rivet City in fallout 3 didnt you?
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>>54809404
Everyone did whether they wanted to or not
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Why are there two 13th Black Crusades? One that started in 3rd ed, one in The Gathering Storm?
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>>54809378
Sacrificing most of your race to birth a sex god and then sacrificing your race again to birth a death god all because you didn't teach sex Ed and do DARE in your schools

>how embarrassing
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Ok anons hear me out....Death Guard....ad a close combat army. Could it work?
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>>54809458
It's all the same black crusade, the time line literally didn't move a second since 3rd until the gathering storm started
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>>54809189
I've been using tupperware/lunch boxes.
I haven't had to move around vehicles yet, and they're worrying me, though.
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>>54809458
oh you are a newfag to 40k then. The last Time Games Workshop did a global campaigned they fucked up super hard. Short Version: Chaos Won, and I mean like they fucked Cadia up supper hard.
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>>54809480
Ok, that's hilarious. What kept people occupied in-between?
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>>54809493
Use bigger boxes. Seperate them into sections of the right size to hold tanks using cardboard + bubblewrap. Or just wrap the tank in bubble wrap
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>>54808789
>my store is literally 100% Imperium victories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJiUfnIzbVM
Chaosfags SEETHING
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>>54809474
Bases on what we know about the new plague marine options, it's a solid maybe.

They have some nice new weapons, with the ability to be 2A base.
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>>54809532
Arguing about whether the timeline should or should not move, some Matt ward hate, and slowly becoming jaded towards the lore writers
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TALLYMAN
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>>54809532
I don't think, in universe, that very much time has passed between editions. So even though it's been like 20 years since 3rd came out, it's still the same year in the game.
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CSM AND GK POINT COSTS WHEN
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>>54809541
Wonderful.
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>>54809219
I S T H A T A F U C K I N G
seriously, fuck that sort of fanbase. I like jimjam's wacky voyage as much as the next weeb, but it isn't the peak of human achievement.
I refuse to admit to anyone that I enjoyed Undertale because my GOD what is wrong with that fanbase.

Anyway, any colour scheme ideas for Death Guard?
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>>54809541
Anyone done this wit Chad marines?
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>>54809564
>https://youtu.be/6Tou8-Cz8is?t=46s
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>>54809234
How did you get that green?
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>>54809055
why are whirlwinds the silliest?
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>>54808832
Not sure what people are whining about, everything seems solid so far.
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So if I'm reading this right then does chaos not even control a single planet?
That's... embarrassing, can someone explain to me why chaos players are so bad at 40k despite their army being top tier?
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>>54808972
>Drinking fermented grain juice
>Buying fermented space goops

I think your just on point anon.
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>>54809645
Because more people play some variety of imperium faction, so it's weighted in favour of them winning

nothing to do with CSM players, more to do with numbers
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>accept eternal damnation and elevation to daemonhood
>big fat dude in the warp just gives you wings and makes you feel like a warm piece of shit forever

Talk about a raw deal.
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>>54809645
There are two ways to earn points in the event: Win games or paint models. You can play a match against your own faction and count it as a win. This means that the faction with more players has a significant advantage, as they'll have more models painted and have more opportunity to play games giving victory points to their faction.

Now I wonder, who has more players?
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>>54809179
Zog off ya git.

Ork fans got the irritating pleasure of having multiple characters come in and say 'remember, Chaos is the real enemy gaiz!' during the Beast Arises series aka the series where the Orks are supposed to get the center stage for once because they finally stopped mucking about and decided to stop playing comedy relief in 40k.

Every Ork player knew that the greenskins were going to lose in the end, but having the moment ruined by the multiple instances of 'omg Chaos is worse gaiz!' was extremely grating.

Also, the bullshit retcons with the Black Crusades in Gathering Storm.
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>>54809009
Dump him.
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>>54809645
GW was banking on the alien players taking points from the imperium, but most of them are content to rub shit in the faces of chaos players.

honestly can't blame them
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>>54809677
Mortarion is a garbage character and deserves nothing better.

Cool model, though.
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>>54809234
That's some good shit
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>>54809541
>Has many girlfriends
>some of them actually female

My sides !
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>>54809650
OK good. I was hoping I wasn't in some sort of slaneeshy state of mind, which makes me wonder exactly what sort of state of mind is the most nurgle-like
besides despair
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>>54809679
Fuck am I part of the 18.8% or do they lump us in with the eldar?
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>>54809645
Imperial factions: 7+
Chaos factions: 2

Real fucking mystery
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>>54809715
Why would you be considered imperium?
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>>54809677
Mortarion's great. He's the only primarch that's allowed to fuck up.

Everyone else has some fucking excuse to try and save face and mollify the fragile fanboys.
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Why do Space Marines use infantry in offensive operations? Having things like Land Raiders, Vindicators, and all of their aircraft their is quite frankly nothing their infantry squads of any flavor do that can't be done better by their armored vehicles.
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>>54808945
You can just use the Forge World Mortis Dreadnought profile, it still has the Autocannon options. Only difference is it's in HS instead of Elites.
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>>54809679
Sauce on that totally real pie chart?
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>>54809715
DEldar is included in Eldar. You can see the full stats breakdown in the calc sheet in the OP.
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>>54809715
DE are part of Eldar. Non-SM Imperium is gaurd, sisters, Admech, etc.
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>>54809694
Also, taking points from a faction doesn't really help that much, since it means that at best it's likely to be a 0-sum draw
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>>54809683
Chaos always comes in and makes things boring. Space Marine was great right up until you finish off the Orks and all you get to fight are demons and lame shit. Get a real boss fight against the Warboss, get a QTE against the big demon guy.
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>>54809677
He also puts a tiny little chainsaw on the tip of your scythe for some reason
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>>54808990
Made significant progress on this Heldrake for the Konor campaign, going to wrap up my Predator tank tomorrow, maybe throw a few layers on a Vindicator or Land Raider.
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>>54809734
GK specifically cannot use it.
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>>54809730
Oh shot I'm retarded I thought it said non-SM non-imperium long day at work haha carry on!>>54809744
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>>54809645
It's because reality is the opposite of the fluff ; there are endless hordes of loyalist marines utterly crushing a heavily outnumbered Chaos playerbase.
I mean, sure, winning because you outnumber the opposition 5 to 1 is still winning, but personally I don't brag about that.
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>>54809679
This is the only correct answer.
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>>54809733
If your looking for common sense, you've come to the wrong place.
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>>54809737
See>>54809737
It was a very rough count I did using the online store, trying to remove duplicates. You can find the full numbers in the appropriate page of the Google doc in the OP.
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>>54809679
>tfw I am more of a loyalist at heart but I went chaos to help even things out
Thanks a lot, you good-guy autists
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>>54809733
>Why do Space Marines use infantry in offensive operations?
For the same reason armies still use them now. Offensive operations != blowing everything up
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>>54809733
Why does the military in real life not just send Abraham tanks and JSF everywhere ?
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>>54809785
Thanks for the help bro! Sorta feel like chaos victories in store are pissing in the wind but we've held my store consistently so I feel like we're doing our part at least.
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>>54809645
The answer is pretty simple Xenos factions after years of being called NPC by chaos fags decided to shit on them by taking away their points, also some fantasy players are still salty about their game being erased by "chaos falls, everyone dies" so they're also motivated to fuck chaos up because of AOS
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>>54809755
Mortarion always had that. It's to symbolize he has to break these chains of loooove
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>>54809645
A rigged campaign. You can get points both for painting units and for fighting your own faction, still counts as a win. This wouldn't be bad if not for the fact that the Imperium has more players than all other factions combined.

Additionally. the SM codex was released at the start of the campaign, while CSM only got theirs five days ago.
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>>54809679
Also, the newest releases favor the Imperium since primaris marines can basically be anything you want chapter wise, so a lot more people will buy them. DG marines can only be DG, so if a chaos player doesn't give a shit about DG, then they won't buy them. Primaris is so much bigger in scope than the DG release.
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>>54809755
>>54809811

No, Mortarion just used a scythe. I bet its a gift from Perturabo, though, since Mortarion has so little to work with as a Daemon Primarch. I mean, the smelly fuck still uses a pistol! A pistol!
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>>54809810
>Fantasy players that mad having armies that aren't smoking craters on a Walmart lawn.
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>>54809820
>while CSM only gets theirs coming Saturday

FTFY
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>>54809693
No way
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>>54809779
Oh I apologize, I didn't realize it was based on products
Now you're just retarded for using that as a gage for ranking faction usage
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>>54809694
>GW was banking on the alien players taking points from the imperium, but most of them are content to rub shit in the faces of chaos players.
Considering THIS picture was shared on the Warhammer Community Facebook page, yeah, it really looks like did not expect the overwhelming level of anti-Chaos xenos for this campaign.

Hmm... Maybe it's because the bs pushed as canon by lore writers the last couple years (I'M LOOKING AT YOU 7E RULEBOOK ENTRY ON CHAOS) has made a lot of people really hate their edgy pet faction these days?
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>>54809835
>>54809820
I dunno all whining aside imperium has scooped pretty fuckin hard on each planet is that codex really gonna help the lads?
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>>54809830
Sounds like you never looked properly at the Mortarion model for 30k that has been out for quite a while now
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>>54809046
It doesn't lose the Executioner Cannon on a burnout btw. Also, if you don't have Pask, consider running it as a DKoK Mar-Alpha Pattern Russ, they get to have a Hull-mounted Plasma Cannon for even MOAR plasma and a 2+ save against S4 or less.
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>>54809820
>two weeks in and chaos fags are screaming rigged
Are chaos players republicans?
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>>54809858
As far as I'm aware, we don't really have census data on playerbases and GW isn't in the habit of releasing per-factions sales figures. I agree this is definitely an indirect assessment with a lot of room for error, but I think most would agree that the overall Imperium playerbase is substantially larger than the Chaos playerbase.
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>>54809870

Oh those? Those are like teeth. Hardly counts as an anything-saw.
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>>54809867
Of course not, it would have to be a book overflowing with cheese like the 3.5 CSM codex to compensate for the difference in numbers. And GW doesn't do that sorta thing anymore (for now)
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>>54809797
Because defense. In offense they do just blow everything up with airpower and it has worked quite well so far.

>>54809791
In 40k? Yes it is unless you're trying to reclaim a relic. Everything else can be reliably blown to shit and replaced with no trouble.
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>>54809759
Oh, rip Grey Knights. At least you get the Baby Carrier.
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Okay so I can take three bikes with two plasma guns and a combi plas, and in the process get fast T5 models with twin bolters as well.

But should I take any extra models as spare wounds? They wouldn't get the special weapons obviously.
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>>54809870
Which is mostly based on John Blanche's sketch which also has a chainsaw tipped scythe.
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Does anyone know any company that makes foam that will for inside the GW crusade case since its not designed to hold any army but Marines apparently
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>>54809896
This is some really good bait, I like it.
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>>54809916
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>>54809896
Republicans were saying that things were most LIKELY going to be rigged, and Obama and Hillary said that was impossible. Then Trump wins and the Dems start saying Russia rigged the election and that Obama also knew they were meddling and that it was rigged. Republicans were saying "Let's have fucking voter id laws like a sensible nation so it can't be rigged." but Dems dont want it, and then they also cry about how the election was rigged despite the best solution always being denied.

Also fuck off, stay on topic.
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>>54809864
>Attacking one of the 500 world's
>While Guilliman is around
I didn't know T'au were suicidal
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>>54809896
>Republicans
>Screaming about hacking/rigging

Anon, I don't think you've been following the news since election day.
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>>54809896
i wouldn't say rigged, more like the chance of winning was never there due to discrepancies in the distribution of the player base.
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>>54809858
Now why ya gotta go and be a dick to chart Anon? Outta here with that shit nigga.
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>>54809936
>replying to bait
>inb4 pretending to be retarded
Not him.
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>>54809913
Sure
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>>54808990
Nailed down a base scheme for my Sisters. I'm also about halfway through 13 basic bolter bitches.
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>>54809954
That's what the word rigged means.
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Any word on whether or not FW is banned from tourneys?
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>>54809979
Depends on the tourney, ask the TO
More often than not they're banned though
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I've been helping with the effort for chaos all campaign but I wouldn't say it's rigged. The numbers are against them sure but that was to be expected.
I'd never seen medusa V or anything like that until it was mentioned a bunch on here how was that experience? Sounded a lot more story driven from what I read.
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>>54809009
>So he started Tau.

cuck manlet detected.
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>>54809908
You're not a clever man are you anon?
Never post again.
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>>54809973
Those look great Anon!
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>>54809975
yes that is what I was implying. like when bender said black mail is such an ugly word, and he preferred extortion.
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>>54809710
Joy in despair my rotten friend. You don't even realize that you have been in Nurgle's palm this whole time.

You were despairing over the fact that you made a mistake by embracing the rot and decay but look... low and behold... you are joyous again. By embracing Nurgle, your despair has faded into true happiness. Not because you are happy, but because now you truly don't care.

Welcome to the plague.
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>>54809032
>My gf wanted space wolves
i'm sorry anon duum..
>and then went nuts when she saw daemons of Khorne.

She is forgiven. MARRY HER RIGHT THE FUCK NOW OR I WILL.
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>>54809973
you absolute mad man, bless you anon. and gods speed on keeping the sisters alive.
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>magnus
>mortarion
>fluff-wise, angron
>ancient-model-wise, fulgrim
>fluff-wise, Sanguinius

with so many primarchs having big old wings, which other primarchs do you think will have them?

I'm guessing Lorgar will also have wings as a gift from his gods, and Corax will have wings on his power armor.
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>>54809583
Hasn't it been 100 years since GTS3?
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>>54809255
Maybe break up the grey with lighter/darker grey stripes, give it a camo feeling?
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>>54809769
you do realize the games are 1v1 right? Loyalists can't gang up on anyone
If chaos players weren't such fags they could actually win games no matter how many loyalist players they had to choose from, actually it should be easier since they can pick to play against shitty players or newbie marine fags
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>>54809999
me or my boyfriend?
because he's taller than me
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>>54809810
As an Ork Freeboota player I would've normally been content to just fuck over both sides as much as possible.......

Is what I would say if I hadn't been hanging out on here and had multiple run-ins with a particularly arrogant shitheel of a Chaosfag since Gathering Storm started.

Now? I'm going full anti-Chaos purely to spite him and arrogant entitled twats like him for this campaign. You can probably guess who I'm talking about here

>>54809946
Apparently GW thinks they are (which is doubly retarded following the latest Farsight novel).
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>>54809171
Always mauls. Slabshield is the most flexible, but if you know you're going up against hard hitting units, grab 6 with Bruteshields and an Astropath to give them +1 to their save. 3++ Bullgryn are tough.
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>>54809032
bloodletters are an excellent model to learn to paint, and to learn to paint well, you can either rush them and get some easy table top quality, or go ham and start highlighting/drybrushing/freehanding.
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>>54810011
th-thanks anon, and thank you based grandfather
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>>54810000
>assblasted insulting
Thank you for admitting defeat, you tears are also delocious.

>>54810004
Ahhhhh got it.
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>>54809864
Mite I ask what bs and what page numbers?
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>>54810056

him.

You must be a dwarf then...
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>>54810056
You have the bigger dick though.
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>>54809979
GW's own official rules allow them. ITC rules, which influence most of the major tournies in the US, allow all forgeworld except actual Titans (Warhounds, Reavers, Ta'unar, etc.). You local tournament may or may not allow them. You'll have to ask your TO.
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>>54809973
Good God-Emperor, drill those barrels you heathen.
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>>54810041
Imperium players play each other and get wins for Imperium. It's a numbers issue, not a skill issue. Imperium also benefits much more from painting points.
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>>54810041
Winning individual games doesn't matter, it's the number of Imperium to Chaos players that matter

Our store has 1 Chaos player, 4 Xenos players, and like half a dozen varieties of Imperium players. How exactly is Chaos supposed to win that.
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>>54810033

Fulgrim wears a leather jacket and is followed by a rock band.
Lorgar is just a huge jacked up wrestler with a mic and demonic boombox minions.
Corax will be adorned in the trophies and technology of his Drukhari victims.
Khan will be dressed like a silly Harlequin with a top hat riding atop an Aeldari surfboard.
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>>54810033
Sanguinius was the only one with "natural" wings, the rest of them only got theirs when they turned traitor.

Corax has a winged jump-pack in 30k and the Lion will probably get wings of some sort on his jetbike.
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Why not just nuke the enemies of man? The Imperium wasted so many lives trying to fight city-wrecking hordes it'd be cheaper and faster to throw nukes at them and rebuild what's left.
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>>54809931
thx I'm pretty proud of it[/ spoiler]
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>>54810020
Yesir!
>Engage marriage protocol.
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You lied to me, /tg/. You said all Ork players are cool. One of the worst players I've ever met plays Ork. Cheating, obnoxious-reacting, rules-lawyering, 500-pound son of a bitch.
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>>54810089
Eh. I just paint muzzle openings.
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>>54810056
>taufag literal fag
pottery
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>>54810109
>]
I'm pretty sure fluff-wise Void-Shields and the like make nukes not the most effective thing.

Besides, look at the fluff for the latest planetary campaign - the Imperium is basically nuking (with Melta-Firebombs) half the planet
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>>54810083
Nah, I'm only 5'8, that's not dwarf, I know a dwarf though, shorter than me and a huge beard.
>>54810084
I wish I didn't
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>>54810065
Honestly, I'd do the same if I was participating. I know it's not ALL Chaos players, but a few of them really just get on my nerves.
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>>54809205
>be Alpharius
>you are Alpharius
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>>54809997
What would you ban? There's no OP FW unit right now.
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>>54810041
Don't forget you also get points for buying and painting shit.

Space marines just got quite an expansive model release with the whole chad marines thing. They got at least 8 new kits.

CSM only get new releases once the Death Guard codex is out, when half the campaign is already over. With only about 4 new kits of new models.
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>>54810040
Reaaaally trying to avoid doing camo stripes, I have a parking lot of about 15 camo artillery and chimeras from when I played artillery park and melta vet guard in 7th
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>>54809253
Make sue you combat squad the 10 Intercessors, RAW you can only use one Aux Grenade Launcher each phase if they're a single unit.
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>>54810152
I wouldn't ban them, I'm just saying what I've seen from a lot of tournaments, at least around my area.
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>>54810122
good people play all factions, sadly this is true for the opposite.
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>>54810152
The Blood Slaughter is literally a Maulerfiend +1.
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>>54810123
That doesn't work though, it looks awful. Where do you live that you can't just get a small hand drill?
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>>54810160
Maybe give it a wash with brown/dirty it up a bit. Would still break up the colour and make it look like it's seen some action.
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>>54810158
I'm not disagreeing with you guys that imperium has an advantageX but your logic is questionable since it changes so much and is contradicting
If marines just got a bunch of new shit that is good wouldn't people not be getting paint scores because they haven't had time to fully paint them?
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>For every five models in the unit, up to two other Tempestus Scions may replace...

What did they mean by this? Is that two special weapons every five models? I'm so confused as to what the hell they mean by "up to two other".
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>>54810122
Never believe in stereotypes. I know a super friendly casual Eldar player, a WAACfag who plays Orks, a girl playing loyalist World Eaters in 30k, a dude who picked up Tyranids at the start of 8th who plays so casually he has no idea what he is actually doing in a game ...
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>>54810109
>Using a weapon known to cause mutations on the followers of Chaos

Nukes are probably to Tzeentch as Virus Bombs are to Nurgle.
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>>54810191
That's my plan, basically they look how they did when they came off the production line, now I need to make them look like they've been fighting in hazardous environments for centuries
Something about plasma glowing through mud and grit gives me a chub
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>>54810205
Up to two other normally means that the special weapons can't be carried by models that took a prior option, probably the Vox-Caster.

And yeah, two weapons per five.
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>>54810170
That says more about Maulerfiends than Blood Slaughterers.
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>>54810198
That assumes every imperial player wasn't already painting something else when the new stuff came out.
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>>54809174
That skin is awesome man, i know the struggles of painting white
This is from the first time I tried it, I don't think it's horrible but I didn't build up slowly, I went for a shade of grey then right to the white besides the obvious thinning issues.

I keep it around as a grim reminder
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DE player here:

is it worth losing out on a CP in order to put Drazhar into my 2000 pt list?

I'm just working on painting my conversion of pic related, and I would love to fit him into my current army list...but the only way I can see to do so is taking one of my taloses out(which disqualifies me from my spearhead detachment)
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>>54810205
It means that for every 5 dudes, two can take special weapons
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>>54810212
>not understanding how nukes work
You know they aren't just mutation bombs right?
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>>54810169
>>54810122
I've noticed that sperging is at a minimum in GW stores. The more I thought about it though the whole little timmys grandmamommy buying up the store thing leads to a more quiet crowd. The original LGS (now closed) I grew up with was rowdy and sometimes a sorry haven but they were "our" spergs. Which environment do you all prefer?
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>>54809973

They look. Rest, but as one red robed sister player to another, the red is weird with washes. Makes it look shiney. Pic related is before/after highlights and shading for mine if it helps.
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>>54810221
That sounds awesome, make sure you post pics once you're done.
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>>54810251
Great*
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>>54810248
* sperg haven
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>>54810245
Yeah, in real life they're not, but this is 40k, land of the over-the-top 80s tropes.
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>>54810071
Anytime, my son. Grandfather loves his children, always.

Be happy, my boy!
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>>54809973
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>>54810137
>implying you can't overwhelm a voidshield
Without an anti-missile system they are only delaying the inevitable. Besides, most enemies of the imperium don't have Void Shields.

>>54810212
>the imperium only ever fights chaos
lol
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>>54810277
Are you still playing rogue trader?
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>>54810238
All that work on conversion and all if I were you I'd damn well have that fucker on the table. My vote goes for rule of cool run that shit fellow Archon.
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>>54809541
>Implying a Chaplain in a Dreadnought wouldn't get all the bitches.
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>>54810140
Yeah, I almost feel a little guilty because there's a Chaos player at my local store who's only 17, and is usually the only Chaos player in the store (the only way the store is even contested at this point is pity anti-Imperium points from the local xenos (read: a couple Orks that are, quote, "sick of waiting for Chaos to get its shit together". For the Astramis megabattle the attacking side was dominated by Ork players by like 5-2 or 6-1. It's pretty bad.)

Do I feel sorry for him? Yeah, a little. Do I feel sorry that Chaos is getting its shit kicked in? ZOG NO.

>>54810208
>a WAACfag who plays Orks
Bugger. I just remembered the Orks probably got a couple more of those jackasses after they ditched their Eldar/Tau in order to latch onto the latest craze.
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>>54810162
That's the plan. I was going to just take them as 2x 5 but I may as well stick them together as a single drop and split them mid game.
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>>54810225
Ah okay I see. Weird wording but cool. Interesting that we can have 4 special weapons in a unit of 10 but two boxes only gives 2 of each special weapon... Think I might just keep my units of 10 with only 2 specials anyway, hot-shots aren't half bad.
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>>54810260
Hopefully will be done tomorrow around this time unless time/motivation/inspiration is in short supply
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>>54810310
Well like if he doesn't mind necrophiles ...
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>>54808789
>>Hilarious™ Mortarion Reveal, also some terminators and stuff
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJMu9G7Pyw8 [Embed] [Open] [Open]

I know I'm incredibly late getting a chance to say this, but I genuinely enjoyed and found this funny.
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>>54810234
i still have my metal chaos lord, the first model i ever painted, it's white with black counter color.
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>>54810304
>Implying Rogue Trader isn't the best edition.
Newfags get out, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>54810314
My first ork waac fag sighting will prolly send me into nervous sweats. It just dosent add up in my head.
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>>54810314
The Boyz train is probably not even going to be the best pick when the new codexes come out.
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>>54809032
>So she has been proxying her SW as chaos marines

Hardly necessary. Puppos have always been one skull away from going Blood for the Blood God anyway.
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>>54810358
2E was pretty cool my man
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>>54810357
Aww yiss. Hadent see. Your guy standing on the tank in a while good shit m8. Gonna have to nab some pictures of my poison wind globidiers I painted at 11-12 good times.
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>>54808862
You made a good choice... a month early.
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>>54810295
I wonder this as well. The only time I think that actually did happen was Istvaan V, where the Iron Warriors nuked the Salamanders, wiping out over half of them and atomising Vulkan who took ages to respawn. So it's proven that nukes instagib Primarchs, which makes me wonder how none of them got obliterated by one or something DaOT that's worse during the Great Crusade. At the very least, the Admech should be throwing them around en masse given they have fusion reactors all over their Forge Worlds to provide the K1 level of power they need and give negative fucks about biosphere health or collateral damage (half the Skitarii are irradiated already, and they often sterilise large areas of their domains for cleaner manufacturing, up to and including the entire planet of Metallica.)

Guess it's magical plot armour again like how nobody uses cyclonic bombs to Remove Tau or Eldar or just skip the battles of Prospero or Istvaans III or V.
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>>54810364
>The Boyz train is probably not even going to be the best pick when the new codexes come out.
I dunno mate. I've been doing pretty well against the marines even after their codex came out. 75% win ratio is still pretty solid all things considered.
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>>54810376
Except Khorne doesn't like furfags.
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>>54809908
Blowing everything up with air-power doesn't work when you're fighting an enemy who also has air-power.

Also, Void Shields
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>>54810376
Yeah I actually suggested we get some of those new skulls to stick on those guys and maybe some extra spike bits from my dark eldar.
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>>54808854
Me too! What army do you play?
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>>54810174
I own one for conversions already. I just don't do it.
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>>54810422
Why not?
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Do you think anyone would mind if I modelled my Salamanders Cataphractii Terminators with Thunder Hammers. I really want to go for the whole Hammer and Blacksmithing vibe so as long as I informed my opponent that they were "counts as" Chainfists would it be alright?
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>>54810397
I don't want to agree with you, because most of 40k just seems so well thought out... There has to be a practical reason why ICBMs and cruise missiles with nuclear warheads aren't literally spammed against every Ork or Nid invasion.
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>Supporting the Imperium unironically for FoK.
>Saying Chaos is overpowered and deserves stomping.

If you belief this then you are the worst of this hobby.

Chaos has had to use the most meta shit for years to compete to any one unit choice from Muh Spece Marines codex.

C'mon lads. Lets stomp some golden boys!!
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>>54810449
Yes, most tournaments don't even care about wysiwyg for models because of how difficult it can be to get certain bits of wargear and how it can inhibit conversions. So long as there is consistency in what counts as what, there are no problems
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>>54810352
Yeah, it was a fun little thing.
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>>54810412
Then you blow it up with artillery and tanks.

Or knock the enemy out of the sky with your interceptors.

Or with your SAMs.
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>>54810352
We all did. Anyone says others wise, they are just Gulliman being a bitch.
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>>54810449
do it and use them as melee termies or something it's pissed me off for a while that you couldn't take hammers on 40k cataphractii
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>>54810357
Paying tribute to your earliest models is a great feeling.
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>>54810458
>because most of 40k just seems so well thought out
You're clearly new
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>>54810416
Some of scaled guys
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>>54810403
I think it really depends on how good the rules are in the other codexes.
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>>54810490
So like most battles in 40k then?
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>>54810490
You still need infantry to protect the Tanks and Artillery. Look what happened in WW2 during the Winter War, Russian tanks outpaced their infantry, got ambushed by Finnish infantry and disabled in CQC.
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They aren't perfect, but I love 'em. My Vanguard is finished!
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Hail battle brothers

I haven't played 40k before, but I'm getting into it with Black Templars and a couple other units. I've watched some games on Youtube and in person, but I still only have a tenuous grasp on the game and its concepts. I was hoping you could advise me on what direction to built in - I really hate to buy stuff that's cool, only to realize I won't even use it.

Here's what I own so far:

20 Tac marines
5 scouts
High Marshal Helbrecht
The Emperor's Champion
1 Venerable Dreadnought
1 Land Raider Crusader

Celestine and her Geminae Superia
Inquisitor Greyfax
Culexus Assassin

and the Primaris guys out of the KNOW NO FEAR starter set (Captain, 5 Intercessor, 3 Inceptor, 5 Hellblaster)

I don't plan on using all these pieces, but this is what I have available so far. I definitely want another Tac Marine box or two, and I'm thinking about getting a couple Razorbacks. I'm also looking at getting Grimaldus and/or a regular Chaplain with a jump pack, maybe a drop pod (with marines), and definitely some Terminators with some sweet ass storm shields.

Crusader squads seem the obvious way to go, with chainswords on most of my guys, and a plasma gun and maybe a melta? The Crusader can hold 16 - so a crusader squad of 14, Helbrecht, and the Emperor's Champion? I'll at least throw the multi-melta on the Crusader, and probably the storm bolter and hunter-killer missile as well. I love the melee flair the Templars have, especially with Grimaldus' Unmatched Zeal. I'm not sure what other directions to take this, though.
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>>54810482
Cool, I was hoping that would be the case.

>>54810498
Honestly, given that the Cataphractii invulnerable got nerfed back to 4++ from 3++ in the Codex I may just give em Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield and proxy them as standard melee termies.
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>>54810536
Hell yeah ive loved watching your progress so far grats nigga.
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>>54810464
You know, I'd be slightly for Chaos over the Smurfs if it was in a vacuum, but you invaded a Forge System. That makes it an honour thing, so my tin men are getting involved. Then again, my list is pretty scrappy since I'm mostly running on a collection of "one or two of fucking everything" and no Cawl, so I tend to lose more than I win against all the Leviathans and Sicarans and such the Chaos players have around here. Still, I fought and we wound up winning anyway, so I can't complain.
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>GW has a sense of humor again

I never thought I'd see the day
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>>54810502
No, really. So many of the strategies that xenos that would be retarded IRL are very well explained in what makes them viable, for example Orks having force fields protecting them from artillery/airstrikes and insane biologies that allow them to tank some small arms fire.

Nids have their numbers and miasma hindering sensors and aircraft.

Eldar have portals, Daemons are well... Daemons and Tau are actually practical.

But all of this gets blown out of the water when nukes are involved.
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>>54810505
whya re they loyalists fighting eachother?
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>>54810536
dead sexy
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>>54810586
Do you not like regimental standard, anon?
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>>54810602
Cause
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>>54810617
I appreciate RS, it's still fairly new though. GW decided not to take itself so seriously about a year ago
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Chaos leaks when?
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>>54810404
Then why does he gift his Champions with Flesh Hound, Juggernaut or Bestial heads?
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>>54810602
> Can't tell if memes
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>>54810568
Up next is my Plasma spearhead which is going to be Hellblaster heavy. And thanks!

>>54810608
You too, flattering anon.
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>>54810510
So you admit infantry is obsolete in offensive battles?

>>54810526
Not an issue when your tanks have sponsons with literal flamethrowers on them.
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>>54810602
>>54810623
You wanna get even more confused: one of the marines there is actually alpharius in the book
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>>54810601
Actual explanation - nukes would make it the game less interesting, since you want to see more infantry-and-vehicle level fighting. Same reason why you don't just see tank regiments fighting most of the time.

Fluff explanation - perhaps the technology for nukes is partially lost, and not all forge worlds have it, or perhaps the imperium doesn't always have the means to deploy nukes.
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>>54810645
No, because without infantry they're really vulnerable as they have no screen or recon.
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>>54810633
They probably displeased him. Like Skarbrand
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>>54810576
Defended your territory from invaders and fought for the right to complain. I ain't even Khorne but i'll respect that.

Well done Tinman...
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>>54810536
Got enough power fists and lightning claws in there?
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>>54810536
Go team THICC Command.
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>>54810660
This is probably why they stopped allowing the ICBM launcher to have infinite range. It was literally a nuke that could hit across tables/countries.
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>>54810586
>Chaos won't use calculators because they can't be made of skulls
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>>54810653
I'd be confused if theres no Alpharius
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>>54810660
The imperium would also lose hard in a scorched earth scenario.
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>>54810645
Flamethrower Sponsons aren't so great when they get behind you.
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>>54810464
>Chaos has had to use the most meta shit for years to compete to any one unit choice from Muh Spece Marines codex
You're not getting a lot of sympathy from players who had to put up with their armies being middling to low-tier for so long because GW has an Imp vs Chaos obsession for the last 6 years, especially in regards to fluff. Suddenly making all of the previous Black Crusades be 'Just as Planned!!' successes instead of failures that forced Abaddon to try again (and again. and again. and again...) to get past Cadia has left a ton of people ticked off too.

Oh, and did I forget to mention the arrogance/entitlement some Chaosfags have? They're as bad as Imperial whiners, if not worse.

Let's make something clear: Most Xenos aren't "supporting the Imperium unironically for FoK", they're "actively fucking over Chaos (possibly out of spite toward GW/arrogant Chaosfags)." The two are very different things.
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>>54810633
>having pets makes you a furfag
Wow
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>>54810679
It should be enough to bust some heads!

>>54810682
Add more CCCC to that thicc, anon
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>>54810251
>>54809973
Pretty awesome. I'm sitting on 5 sisters I was going to use to start a SWA Kill Team, but I'm still debating my color scheme. Thinking red armor, but then that leaves a lot of other decisions.
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>>54810660
Nukes exist according to the Rogue Trader RPG, they're called Atomics and are really rare. Also, they're shittier than just enacting a bigger orbital bombardment.

>Also, I mentioned FFG, so inb4 people scream "NON CANON!"
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>>54810536
Looks good dude.
>tfw my opponents think primer counts as painted
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>>54808844
I think I'm somewhat passable myself and I got my previous boyfriend into the hobby years ago. It was fun for a while, but it caused some problems. Basically if I played anyone else, he got jealous of us having a good time together, and when we played each other, whoever lost ended up a little salty. The same thing happened with him and another boyfriend when it came to video games. Every boy I met, they got jealous, competitive games just made us salty against each other and if I ever wanted to play alone, they got upset.

With my current lover, the fact that she's not into 40k makes her feel a little left out, and I know she worries when I go off to the store that boys will hit on me. While I don't have any interest, some have shown interest in me, so I can understand why she's a little nervous. Personally I prefer it this way, that way we have our things together and this is my thing. Too much overlap in hobbies and interests has only caused me problems in relationships. Having a couple of things that we do separately has been a much comfier experience.
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>>54810660
Except Deathstrike Missiles exist.
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>>54810692
That's why you put another tank behind your first. Also you do realize a devil-dog can rotate it's turret right?
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>>54810710
I didn't say they didn't exist, I said that they might not always be available, or some forge worlds may not have the tech.

>>54810722
Which obliterate a relatively small area. Scary, but not exactly a tactical nuke.
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>>54810713
We've all been there buddy.
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>>54810687

The funny part is there are Astartes Accountants.
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>>54810710
But unlike orbitals they aren't himpered by orbital lasers.
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>>54810693
I was more talking about Imp-fags bitching about Chaos being op now conpared to before. I mean the really delusional of this community, which seems like alot of ppl right now.

Xenos have the right to support or fuck over anyone. If i get my shit kicked in by gene stealer and orks well then...fuck my shit up...
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>>54810719
That's unfortunate that it's caused you problems in the past, hopefully things work out well in this relationship for you anon.
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>>54810687
They have those, they're called Servo Skulls.
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>>54809032
>She really really likes painting
Does she go on 4chen? If so you should point her to the WIP general on here. Should also start teaching her drybrushing and washing, 'cause as solid those colour choices are those models are looking a bit flat.
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>>54810748
Which is why I back you up by explaining how shitty and rare they were.
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>>54810746
Enjoy losing your tanks to a bunch of lascannons hidden behind a ridge or hedgerow because you have no scouts.
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>>54810782
Oh yep, my bad. Thanks my dude.

I always just assume 4chan is out to get me
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>>54810748
Except they ARE nukes, read their fluff.
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>>54810693
>Chaos Player: Hey, I kind of wish I had thing
>you: how dare you want thing you entitled shitstain
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>>54809032
See
>>54810780

If nothing else show her Chapter Master Duncan's videos
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>>54810799
It's been a while, but I thought they were plasma or vortex missiles?
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>>54810837
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>>54810798
That's because it is
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>>54810772
Well, GW did kinda just kill off Cadia without warning in the fluff, so people are going to be bitching about Chaos being op, regardless of whether that's the case on the tabletop or not. I mean, of all the things to advance the storyline, no one really expected THAT to happen.
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>>54810397
I believe a chaos warband did manage to get off a volley of cyclonic torpedoes at Iyanden once. It royally fucked them up and is the reason Iyanden fields a fuckton of ghost warriors when the tyranids show up.
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>>54810850
Plasma based weapons are basically nuclear reactors that spit reactor fuel at people.
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>>54809009
Marry him.
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>>54810876
in fairness the resulting story progress has actually been worth while in content
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>>54810882
I guess so? I forget, what was the point exactly? Why don't they just nuke the fuck out of everyone?
Probably because it's not cost effective to spam Deathstrike Missiles all the time.
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>you will never have a gf, let alone one that likes to paint warhams
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The Imperium does use the equivalent of a nuclear warhead, the Deathstrike is able to carry anything from fuel bombs (MOAB's equivalent?), bio-chemical missiles and plasma warheads which sound like it wrecks cities. Now it also fires Vortex missiles which are way more destructive than any Nuclear attack as they rip a whole in reality and send you straight to hell.

So yes, the Imperium does nuke its enemies and thats not counting Orbital bombardment which in some cases it is described as leveling entire cities.
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>>54809129
I'm still mad.
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>>54810850
They're tactical nukes mounted on ICBMs, but I think you used to have the option of taking vortex missiles if you paid extra points. That was the best option since the vortex moved around.
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>>54810885
I'm gonna.
why do you say that though?
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I'm working on painting this glorious model(right arm is missing because I'm going to finish painting it before attaching it)

But I'm unsure on what to do with his cloak. Should I paint it red or leave it black?
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>>54810920
It could probably use a wash with some grey or white for highlights.
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I may be blind but I cannot find details on the limitations per Psyker in the Psychic phase of the rulebook.

Isn't there a rule that says a non-smite power can only be used once per Psychic phase regardless of number of separate Psykers?
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>>54810950
Page 215 under Matched Play
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cud sum won poast nu Morty pleez?
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>>54810950
>In Matched Play, any power that isn't Smite or Smite-based can only be used once per Psychic Phase

>In Narrative Player (which is what Konor is), any power can be used a many times as you like.

>In Unbound Player, no one fucking cares because it's the domain of WAAC fags with their 7th Edition unbound Stormraven lists.
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>>54810822
She loves watching Duncan and muttering under her breath while doing so. Lighting my be janky on that picture she drybrushed orange on the lumpy bits and washed them too.Maybe need a little more of both if it ain't the lighting. We will continue the journey toward painting perfection though lads!
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>>54810963
See >>54809677
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I had a gf who hated the fact that I had this hobby. I play in a band and I look like a chad, but Im secretly a huge nerd and whenshe found out I think she was pretty dissapointed. She always demeaned me for it in front of her friends and would hide paints or models I was working on like a game. She ended up "leaving me" for attention a few months in and got super fucking pissed when I basically said good riddance
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>>54810974
> >In Unbound Player, no one fucking cares
Warptimed whol army in your deploy. What you will do?
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>>54810997
Not care
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anyone else play Tsons?

I need inspiration for a well-rounded 1000 point list.
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Tonight, I just got this REALM OF BATTLE GAMEBOARD as a consolation prize for getting shot down hard. For free. How'd I do?
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>>54810991
tanks anon
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>>54811019
4/10
all the realm of battle game boards I've played on have been a bit shit to actually use, and look average at best
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>>54811019
story
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>>54810997
Put you on my "WAAC fags I know not to play against" list.
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anyone got the pic of the anime girl saying "oh no its the drug" and its a (you)
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>>54811034
Not much of one. There was another guy who started talking to her before I got in her life so I lost. Didn't even know there was competition. Luckily she's actually super chill and awesome and after talking for a bit she mentioned the boards and how her ex was an abusive asshat and she didn't want to be reminded of them.
Free board. I'll get miles out of it, for sure.
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>>54809999
>being this bothered over another dude's plastic army men
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>>54811055
But im not waacfag
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>>54810065
>Apparently GW thinks they are (which is doubly retarded following the latest Farsight novel).
How so?
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>>54810997
Warptime is the least bullshit thing a chaos player can do in open and narrative play.
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Does anyone else wish that some of the Loyalist Legion-specific units from 30k (like Pyroclasts) had rules in 40k.

I want Chapters that have distinct units and don't just "follow the spiritual-leader"
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>>54810974
>>54810974
>In Narrative Player (which is what Konor is), any power can be used a many times as you like.
Hang on. So I can use my Weirdboy's Da Jump ability to jump multiple Ork mobs into charging range of the enemy?
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>>54811104
Playing Open play (unless there is a narrative behind it of course) makes you close enough in my book.
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>>54811116
Before codex?
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@54811064

*(You) not included.
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>>54811124
Only if you have enough Weirdboyz.
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>>54811138
I play any my friend want
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>>54811141
The points restriction for summoning only applies to matched play.
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>>54811032
Does that 4/10 take into account how much it costs and what he payed for it?
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>>54810908
It is though. You waste more resources paying for the thousands of tanks, rations and ammuniton than with a few dozen Deathstrikes.
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What are the CSM Codex Horror rules and points for Pink/Brimstone?

I have seen the smite nerf but cant find point cost changes.
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>>54811181
That assumes deathstrikes are impossible to counter though.
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>>54811112
Tau are capable of being possessed by Daemons now. So teaming up with the faction that's OPENLY ALLIED with Daemons doesn't make a lot of sense.

>>54811153
>Only if you have enough Weirdboyz.
So one 'Da Jump' per Weirdboy then? Good to know.
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>>54811064
No but (you) can have this one instead
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>>54811158
>A rare image of a Narrative game vs a Chaos player. M3, Colourised
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>>54810786
You talk like if lascannons were as common as lasguns.

And ridges/headcrows can be bombed with artillery.
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Thinking of starting a new army since Tau are so boring to paint and I've grown kinda sick of them after a single squad of Fire Warriors.
Thinking Iron Warriors, Death Guard, Emperor's Children, Tyranids, or DEldar.
I've never actually had the chance to play the game, so I'm not 100 percent on the rules. So I was wondering what the funnest to play, paint, and just generally much around with, like kitbashing and customising and such.
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>>54811201
Daemons are just strange Aliens Gue'vessa. Please report to your closest Rehabilitation Facility for more information.
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>>54811214
They're common enough. Also having to creeping barrage your entire progress is massive waste of time and makes you really vulnerable to counter attack.
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>>54811196
They are since missile defense is not a thing in 40k.
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>>54810909
Just do what I do famalam and act natural.

Then again, might have something to do with the fact I'm 6'7" and was at the time the star of the soccer team. But I was still a complete fucking geek at game nights.
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>>54810919
For the Greater Good, of course.
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>>54811174
Does that really matter?
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>>54808789
Does anyone know how Demonic ritual works exactly? Is it kind of like how Tervigons spawn hormagaunts? Or is it just a really shitty deep strike?
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>>54811250
Then the Imperium should've fallen ages ago.
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>>54811117
I want rules so I can use my Taghmata in games of 40k
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>>54810994
What a bitch. I didn't find out my girlfriend was a huge anime fan until six months into our relationship, but I thought it was actually neat.
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>>54811247
>They're common enough
A guard regiment has like 12 lascannons in total IIRC.

>massive waste of time
Not if you have nukes!
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>>54810974
I feel like Psychic powers should work like this in Matched Play
>You may only cast each non-Smite power once per Psychic Phase, UNLESS said power was randomly rolled for instead of being chosen.
So basically the same rule as Dark Eldar combat drugs. Would actually give a reason for randomly rolling for powers this edition.
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>>54811269
It's basically just deep strike as you have to pay for it in matched play.
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>Play new Konor Mission
>Set up Air Detachment of Razorwings
>Move 92" off the board

GG Imperials
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>>54811284
>Citation Needed
Maybe if it's a Light Infantry Regiment anon.
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>>54811284
And what's stopping the enemy just nuking you while you nuke the countryside?
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>>54811257
I'm still gonna, but not because you told me to!
I'm chaos
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>>54811201
>Tau are capable of being possessed by Daemons now. So teaming up with the faction that's OPENLY ALLIED with Daemons doesn't make a lot of sense.
Huh, that might explain Kais. But hell, having any sort of non-human Chaos aligned might help ease the notion that humans are fucking up the galaxy for everyone else, so there's that. Plus, a Daemon Engine'd Battlesuit would look fucking awesome.
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>>54811292
KEK
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>>54811273
Actually it's the oppossite, the Imperium would have beaten everything else by now if they bothered to use their nukes.
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>>54811327
Not really, as the imperium can't assault into the eye of terror and chaos could just nuke terra.
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>>54810404
>his right hand man is literally a dog
>has a whole variety of daemons that are mutant canids

Khorne is down with the yiff.
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Am one I hope you realize you're talk of nukes is pointless when half the races you're fighting either don't give a shit about losses, can adapt to nuclear energy, or don't follow the laws or reality, and orks are all 3.
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>>54811303
Which further proves infantry is obsolete in offensive operations.

>>54811307
The fact that they don't have any. The Imperium is the only faction known to have ICBM-deployed nukes.
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>>54811142
good man thank you
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>>54809864
>Hmm... Maybe it's because the bs pushed as canon by lore writers the last couple years (I'M LOOKING AT YOU 7E RULEBOOK ENTRY ON CHAOS) has made a lot of people really hate their edgy pet faction these days?

I think it has more to do with the fact that in lore, there's no way in hell most xenos factions would choose Chaos over the Imperium.
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>>54811370
Chaos has them as well by default. Other factions also have stronger weapons other than nukes.
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>>54811356
Space Wolves confirmed Khorne worshippers.
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>>54811292
What about just spamming the shit out out reavers/Hellions with a raider full of splinters?
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>>54811232
>So I was wondering what the funnest to play, paint, and just generally much around with, like kitbashing and customising and such.
Orks, honestly, but I'm sure the other armies are fine. I assume Chaos stuff is good for kitbashing and greenstuffing since it's all... chaosy. Tyranids would probably be the most different from your Tau, I think, and thus probably fun to paint (and play if you got around to it). Though with most armies you'll reach a certain point where you just want to take a break from painting everyone in the army color scheme (which is why I stand by my original statement about Orks, I have a mixed clan army and different units are expected to look different).
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>>54811346
Yeah but they would'nt have gotten past Cadia, and Chaos can't nuke terra because 1) It doesn't have nukes and 2) It can't get past cadia because their ground forces get nuked.
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>>54811232
Imperial Guard are fun for creativity. You can basically justify any style of clothing, vehicles, etc.
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>>54811232
If you like painting variety i'd go Eldar or Daemons. The problem with space marines and nids is that you paint them all the same. Sure space marines win on conversion and kitbashing potential but if you're all about painting you're just applying the same color scheme to 40 different models.
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>>54811414
Chaos has nukes, it uses the same tech the imperium does.
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>>54810505
Ah I'm a guardfag myself. Honestly surprised neither of us are tyranids considering.
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>>54811232
Chaosfag with my 2 cents here. The various forms of csm are easy to kit bash or customize and fun to do so. Chaos mutations and boons are a neat way to customize your force and do stuff simply because it seems cool. Deathgaurd is getting it's own codex and a ton of new models. Iron Warriors and Emperor's Children are both in the base csm codex. Depending on how dedidcated you are to a paint scheme and how set your play style is, all of those CSM groups can be one collection and you mix and match your various marines for your list, so EC noise marines, IW havoks, DG plague marines, and do your various marines that are shared however you want. Chaos gets away with having a very diverse spread of colors on the field because of the various specialties each god tends to have.
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>>54811356
>having a pet makes you a furfag
>implying daemons are animals
You didn't think before making that post, did you?
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>>54811292
>Dark Eldar immediately lose the game as a Air Detachment can't control objectives.
GG Edgy Pansies
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So... yesterday my LGS just break it to me that GW don't let them get Land Raider anymore since they fear no one gonna bat an eyes on the Repulsor.
Apparently they will put it in the webstore soon.
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>>54811386
No they don't, CSM can't take Deathstrikes. Xenos factions don't have anything resembling an ICBM, missile defence, nor cruise missiles.
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>>54811447
That's not the whole list breh. Just a whole lot of victory points fer nothin.
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>>54811411
Orks. Definitely Orks.
Case in point: I'm currently building an entire Ork trukk out of sprues, slotted bases and other junk. From scratch.
Pic related.
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>>54811436
>having a pet makes you a furfag
If it's a dog, yeah, odds are good.
>implying daemons are animals
Well when you get right down to it furries aren't either.
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>>54811427
I lied nad i only think about becoming trap
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>>54811425
CSM can't take Deathstrikes. Chaos uses marine tech only.
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>>54811447
> Holding objectives in that mission.
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>>54811480
Deathstrikes aren't the only nuke equivalent. Nova Cannons are way more powerful than nukes are.
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>>54811476
>If it's a dog, yeah, odds are good.
Oh so you're only pretending to be retarded, got me good.
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>>54811500
Put the peanut butter and squeaky toy down while your talking at least you sick fuck.
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So im playng against Gazzy and a stompa for the next Konor game with a friend. How does this look? I've never used Yarrick before.
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>>54811496
Deathstrikes aren't just nukes they have Vortex shit too which is basically a mobile explosion.

But even if they DID have nukes the Imperium still rekts them because they have more. Specially after wiping out all the xenos races because they can't defend themselves from nukes.
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>>54811493
Yeah, the only objective for that mission is, attacker needs to get to the other side of the table and defenders needs to take them out.

Luckily for me I've got enough trukks, buggies and koptas to make an impromptu Speed Freek brigade.
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>>54811524
>Guy who thinks that nukes are literally the best weapon and wreck everything
Gtfo back to Fallout.
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>>54810128
today there was a fat ugly tranny at g-dubz. And I wasnt even that grossed out
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Horus could have won the Heresy had he just nuked the palace. He had half the Imperial Army on his side so he had the missiles.
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>>54811524
Nukes got nothing on that weapons grade autism your toting around there m8!
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>>54811524
Nova cannons fire a 50 meter diameter shell at near light speed that contains an explosive equivalent to small sun. Deathstrike missiles are incredibly small potatoes to what's out there.
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Extremely new to the hobby, rate my 1000 point catachan list
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>>54811549
>fat, ugly tranny
Was it Chris-chan?

>>54811552
The palace had Void Shields
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>>54811545
>butthurt non-argument
Thank you for conceding defeat. Your tears are also delicious.
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>>54811574
^This. They can also fire a Vortex Warhead.
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>>54811583
>Conceding Defeat
More like giving up because you'e arguing with a special ed student who has a raging hard-on for nukes and doesn't listen to your argument.
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>>54811583
You gonna drink them out of a vault 111 mug from the limited edition you fart sucking taint licker?
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>>54811571
>runs out of arguments
>y-you autist!
Lmao

>>54811574
Aren't those ship weapons, easily nullyfiable by other ships, orbital lasers and void shields?

The deathstrikes aren't hax because of the explosion, they are hax because they are ICBMs and missile defence does not exist in 40k.
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>>54811549
We have a cute fat tranny at our GW. I mean I can tell, but the rest seem to be unaware.
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>>54811629
If a void shield can stop that, it can also stop a deathstrike.
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>>54811477
It's okay anon, you wouldn't be alpha legion without some lies mixed in.
I wasn't lying though, I really am trying to be a trap.
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>>54811614
>if he deconstructs my fallacious argument he is autistic!
Lmao k

>giving up
Yes thank you.

>>54811619
>m-maybe i-if i throw some defensive bait everyone will forget i just got btfo!
Top kek, what's next a cheetah?
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>>54811629
>Missile Defense does not exist in 40k
Two words muthafucka: VOID SHIELDS

>>54811652
>cute
>tranny
Before I ask you if you're gay, I need to know, Pre or Post Op?
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>>54811681
I only shove whole body and have nearly long hair. Dont think it counts, but what is trying to be trap?
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>>54811549
There's a girl at my gw I'm about 90% sure is a tranny but short of either dating her or outright asking, I don't trust my judgement enough to tell.
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>>54811685
>deconstructs my argument
In what universe does autistic sperging count as deconstructing an argument?
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Playing a bit around with nids and have mostly only trouble with vehicles and flyers. Using any expensive monster is a waste since they just get destroyed my lascannons and such things. So whats a better way to deal with vehicles? Mass exocrines?
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>>54811674
Can't, because deathstrikes travel slow enough to bypass the shield. Alternatively, you can drive the missile launcher inside the void shield and fire from there.

And that's omitting the fact that only very large cities and ships actually use void shields.
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>>54811724
What's she like? There's one at my store too that I'm wondering as well.
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>>54810109
They have more effective weapons than nukes. Nukes irradiate the land of precious planets (the Imperium has infinite men but finite worlds). Plasma & magma warheads are commonly used for orbital bombardment and Deathstrike missiles and don't have lingering effects

There's also the fact that the Imperium values infrastructure over men. For instance they didn't just blast Vraks from orbit after it went rogue because they didn't want all the mining facilities and factories to get destroyed, so they launched an invasion that killed 12 million guardsmen. This is completely acceptable as these factories are valued more for the administratum
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>>54811733
>deathstrikes travel slow enough to bypass the shield
Citation Needed. At least in the crunch Void Shields stop Deathstrikes

>And that's omitting the fact that only very large cities and ships actually use void shields.
Not according to Only War and Horus Heresy.
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>local player starts Primaris only army
>decides to pick up unit of Wulfen because he "wants the best assault unit"
>everything else is Primaris Ultramarines

He's a nice enough guy from what little I've talked to him but he ran triple riptides and a stormsurge in 7th so I'm not surprised he's a faggot when it comes to 40k.
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>>54811723
[Spoiler] for me is having long hair, shaving whole body, looking into taking hormones in the near future, having girl clothes, shit like that. I just want to be a qt and not hate my life. [/spoiler]
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The universe of frog posting fedora tipping trolls Anon. I don't even know what happens here at night anymore haha
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>>54811699
See >>54811733

>>54811726
Projecting your hissy fits now? This was my last post before the argument went to shit: >>54811524

An argument.

This was your last post before the argument went to shit: >>54811545

Autistic screeching.


Is this the part where you were only pretending to be retarded?
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>>54811773

Does nobody hide troll posts anymore?
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>>54811742
Always wears scarfs, kinda quiet, hands seem a little big and voice seems a little deep to me. Cute though. If I remember I think she plays skitarii.
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>>54811761
> having girl clothes
I think that is hardest step and will try to defer to the last
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>>54811777
Ignoring the retardedness, see >>54811755
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New codex when?
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>>54811827
Probably next weekend.
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So new potential DEldar player, I'm trying to come up with a 1850 pts list that I can very slowly start work on collecting since that seems to be what a lot of events do, and I'm hoping for some input. I feel a little paralyzed with choice since the consensus seems to be 'there's not real wrong units to take' from what I've been reading. I shamelessly stole this list after shaving a few things off and adding some new things because it seemed relatively simple, but I'm wondering just what anon's view on this purely from a gameplay level. I'm not looking to win every game I play, I just don't want to get shit stomped.

HQ
Archon - 76
>Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Archon - 76
>Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenade Launcher


Troops
Kabalite Warriors -117
>4x Kabalite Warrior - Blaster
>Sybarite - Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Kabalite Warriors -117
>4x Kabalite Warrior - Blaster
>Sybarite - Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Kabalite Warriors -117
>4x Kabalite Warrior - Blaster
>Sybarite - Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Kabalite Warriors -117
>4x Kabalite Warrior - Blaster
>Sybarite - Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenade Launcher


Elites
5x Mandrakes - 95
>Baleblast & Glimmersteel Blade

Heavy Support
Ravager - 155
>3x Dark Lances, Bladevanes

Ravager - 155
>3x Dark Lances, Bladevanes

Ravager - 155
>3x Dark Lances, Bladevanes

Dedicated Transport
Venom - 95
2x Splinter cannon, Bladevanes

Venom - 95
2x Splinter cannon, Bladevanes

Venom - 95
2x Splinter cannon, Bladevanes

Venom - 95
2x Splinter cannon, Bladevanes

Venom - 95
2x Splinter cannon, Bladevanes


Flyer
Razorwing Jetfighter - 170
>2x Dark Lance, Splinter Cannon, Razorwing Missles

I'm very new so any advice would be appreciated
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>>54811789
That'd be like listening to censored rap Anon.
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updated, about to add the other arm.

Should I paint the cloak red or no?
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>>54811842
RED CLOAK MAH NIGGA.
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>>54811840
Forgive my retarded formatting
I'd be running it as a Battalion most likely
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>>54811842
This >>54811855, red is the best colour other than Gold.
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>>54811842
Aye
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>>54811755
>Citation Needed. At least in the crunch Void Shields stop Deathstrikes
In the crunch a grot kills a marine 22% of the time.

I made an assumption about the speed of the Deathstrike which after thinking it through is wrong, so I apologize for that. But my point about driving the launcher into the shield still stands.

>Not according to Only War and Horus Heresy.
Elaborate?
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>>54811699
I should be more clear, she has a cute personality. Lots of charisma and somehow bonds with even the most autistic players.
>>54811790
Sounds like a tranny to me. Most of the cis girls that come in are fat and unkempt or unkempt sticks. The only normal girls are girls that clearly have zero interest in the hobby and are dating some buff player. The look of disgust on their face every time makes me chuckle. They try so hard to hide it and fail.
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>>54811840
not nearly enough dark lances

get some scourges

kabalites are kinda meh compared to trueborn, who can field 4 blasters in a squad of 5.
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>>54811887
>tranny
>she
You're a faggot. An actual, textbook sodomite.

Congratulations!
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>>54811874
Horus Heresy has Personal Void Shield Generators, which protect everything within about 2.5'' on the tabletop. Only War also has Personal Void Shield Generators and a half-a-ton static version which is used to protect most encampments.

Basically, the drawbacks of Void Shields isn't the rarity as it is with Refractor Fields, it's the fact that they are back-pack sized at their smallest.
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>>54811919
And?
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>>54811938
Wtf even is happening in that picture? And do I really want to know?
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>>54811919
>Calling me a sodomite
>Have received oral sex from a girl
>Have put my penis in a girl's butt before
I mean, you're not wrong.
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>>54811904
Mostly fielding them because they're cheap and enough shooty and choppy to work both ways, I'll drop two of the squads so I can still qualify for a battalion and see if I can get a Trueborn and Scourge squad in there
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>>54811950
He's preparing for battle, clearly
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>>54811950
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>>54811950
Some kind of weird... anti masturbation thing I think?

>>54811959
>gets called a sodomite
>"I mean, you're not wrong"

...Well played sir.
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>>54811928
Yes, but aren't those static defenses that can be also overwhelmed? I doubt the small, easily transported ones can take a nuke.

Then there's the larger ones but then the question of how the hell you transport a massive several-ton generator around the battlefield comes to light.
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>>54811950
Its anti-masturbation cross
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>>54811840
1. People play 2k, not 1850 in 8th
2. Voidraven is generally believed to be better than Razorwing
3. Succubus are 72 points and give rr1s in an aura to your vehicles, this might be better than an archon.

You don't care about archon aura because MSU doesn't give two shits about morale and you aren't even running him with the squad.
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>>54811986
>>54811992
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>>54811904
I'm also realizing I did some of the points wrong now, I'm going to have to rework this some, thanks for the input anon
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>>54811998
>Then there's the larger ones but then the question of how the hell you transport a massive several-ton generator around the battlefield comes to light.
It's only half a ton. Shove it on the back of a Centaur.
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>>54811986
.....
Do five year olds fap?
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>>54811938
>>54811959
>i engage in poopdick
Assuming this is the same person yes you're a fucking faggot.

>and?
Lmao faggot enjoy your AIDS/depression/syphilis/drug-adiction/inability to hold a relationship/unhappiness/etc
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>>54811938
>>54811950
>>54811986
>>54812029

It's for autistic kids you retards, it's supposed to stop them from hurting themselves and get them to calm down while they're sperging out.
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>>54812029
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>>54812027
Centaur?
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>>54812050
It clearly says "Anti-Masturbation Device"
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>>54812029
Not wearing that thing they don't
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>>54812067
>autists dont masturbate
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>>54812060
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Centaur_Utility_Vehicle
Think a Ute crossed with a Leman Russ
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>>54812067
Autistic kids fap 24/7 and can be hurt
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>>54809896
UM sweetie, republicans haven't been shrieking about Russia since day 1 :)
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>>54812006
Would I just be better off running Wyches then and scrapping the Kabalites all together just to work with the Succubus or nah?
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>>54812083
Alright, thanks anon, I appreciate the info. Extra points for actually arguing and not sperging out like the other guy.
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>>54808990
Buncha Skitarii Rangers.
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>>54810110
Told you it was good anon, just look at all these delicious (You)s

>>54809936
>>54809953
>>54809954
>>54812093
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>>54812104
No problem, I find arguments get resolved a lot better when nonconstructive autism is contained.
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>current fucking year
>people still fall for the anti-masturbation device meme
Jesus fucking christ
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>>54812027
>Shove it on the back of a Centaur.
I feel at least one Only War group probably did this.
>>
So I haven't had the time to play for a while, how fucked to hell are the non-horde non-codex-having armies?

Will my Dark Angels still get fucked?
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>>54812194
Depends on which wing you're playing.
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>>54812201
I play all wings comined, running a sammael, belial leading the raven- and deathwing. and a company master leading a group of tacts.
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>>54812194
Probably. I run nothing but khorne berserkers and other things capable of stabbing or eating so hoards aren't really a problem for me.
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>>54812121
Question: Do I have to base my Arquebuses on the oval bases? Or can I just use the 28mm ones?
>>
>>54812235
>>54812235
>>54812235
>>54812235
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>>54812220
I find Death-Raven to work really well if you can get good rolls on your deepstrike charges. Belial is easily the best improved character from 7e and Sammael is fantastic as always. Just note that bikers are fragile as fuck this edition and will die pretty easily.
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>>54812229
>I run nothing but khorne berserkers and other things capable of stabbing or eating so hoards aren't really a problem for me
Mein negger. Mind posting your list?
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Apothecary or Ancient?
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>>54809907
>overflowing with cheese
>CSM
>ever

Hilarious. MOAR!
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>>54811212
pretty much why i just got about 75% done painting 50 pink horros.

dumb ass powergamers trying to screw ppl over want to play PL not points (so to bring max amt of units + full upgrades)

so i'm going to oblige them with 2 detachments with 3 characters each .. let the summon spam begin!
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>>54811474
goddammit i think i saw something like that in iraq
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>>54810806

This.

Did I miss an edition or two?
When were chaos armies unstoppable juggernaughts of shameless cheese? There was that one blip on the gaydar when spamming doom turkeys made us *almost* competitive, but that only lasted @5min before GWHQ faqqed our eyes out for having the temerity to enjoy challenging the supremacy of the Chosen Ones for one shining moment. But why all the CM hate now?
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>>54812485
I prefer apothecary, personally. I usually park him by a dev squad but I was thinking of throwing one on a bike to play ambulance.
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>>54813998
Kek. RIP possessed vehicles
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>>54811266
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Citadel-Realm-of-Battle-Gameboard-2016

You tell me. Please take it's cost and subtract the FREE he paid for it.
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>>54809255
Drill your barrels. At least the heavy bolters.
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I feel like I'm in bizarro world at he moment.

>Everyone complains the rules are a bloated mess
>GW releases a clean and balanced rules set where every faction is supported. It still has its issues but is for the most part better.

>Everyone realised how Busted flyers were
> Games workshop patched them out

>Everyone continued to realise how Busted flyers were
>Games workshop patched them out further still , despite the potential to make $$$ on stormraven kits.

>Everyone realised how bullshit only factions with codex's getting obsec is
>GW patched it so everyone gets Ob sec , despite how they could have forced people to just play marines/chaos


>Chaos players complain because that's what they do
>Chaos gets a new codex ,legion traits , a new primarch and new models.

>Everyone says GW are humourless corporate cunts
>They release a comedy video to show off a new model and actively engage with player complaints on the internet.

>People continue to complain that hordes are broken
>GW releases multiple anti horde units such as aggressors, blight drones and the Repulsor and promises to fix things further down the line.

They still haven't fixed the bullshit that is girlyman or the cancer that is primaris fluff but you can't have everything I guess.
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>>54810357
Malice approves my dude.
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