Warhammer Fantasy General /wfg/

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>So, who is hype for high elf
YES
>waifus?
Eh.

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>>54802861
Are there holes in those helmets?
Also I claim this thread for Settra!

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>>54802796
>Warhammer elves
>waifus

>>54802796
Children of the Horned Rat says that Skaven settlements have around twice the population of a human equivalent but what about Dwarf, Elf, Orc and Goblin settlements? I'm asking in terms of how their are modifiers for settlement population in WHFRP 2nd Edition that affect how easy it is to find equipment for purchase. It wouldn't make sense for Elves and Dwarfs to have less availability towards rare equipment than humans and Skaven so presumably, the double thing is also used with that chart so that the populations start at 200 and multiply by 10 for each level that equipment becomes more common in Skaven settlement unlike with humans where it starts at 100.

>>54802861
Some of the generic Regiments of Renown from TWW actually look pretty cool.

Still hope they bring in the actual Dogs of War, being available to multiple different factions

>>54802917
the empire one is based off a BL novel.

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CA NO

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2 weeks will give you enough time to find us more work. Perhaps something that pays a little better. I'm tired of risking my life for peasants and ale money.

>>54803186
BENYOND YOUR COMPERHENSION

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>>54803210
I would kill for the Grudgebringer Mercenaries to get into TWW

>>54803245
They kind of fit the bill for the new rogue armies feature, perhaps

>>54803245
>>54803278
Only question is who owns the rights.

>>54803186
ASININE MORTAL

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>If they weren't busy protecting their realm, the knights of Bretonnia could conquer the wor-

ROOK DOMORK, DA EAST IS BURNIN GREEN

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>>54803330
GW. They're very, very careful about maintaining rights to their own IP.

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>>54802796
I want a High Elf Shadow Warrior dressed like a Sheikah.

>>54803389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TnEbrk4U5Y

>>54803421
Wunderbar! Mayhaps the Gudgebringers will ride again.

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http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Grudgebringers

you know, between the current DLC and Roaming armies mechanic it would be very easy to make a grudgebringer faction.

>>54803389
>>54803456
My first thought when Malekith had to introduce Grimgor as 'Boss of the East" made me think

>Warboss Grimgor, Undefeated of the East

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>>54803378
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION

What is your favorite Magic Item throughout the editions? I'll start:

Aldred's Casket of Sorcery: Few things are funnier than being able to steal your opponent's spells for yourself. Maximum trollface when you face a VC player and go "Oh, you wanted to cast Invocation of Nehek?"

>>54803781
I hate these things so much.

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>>54803792
>can't make fencer's blades, glittering scales, and white cloak of Ulric combo

>>54803389
What in the hell is a "convincing victory"?

>>54803781
So how does one fight Surtha Ek's chariot spam? Lots of Halberdiers?

>>54803944

Deep lines and closed ranks. The moment they get stuck, they are dead meat.

>>54803944
cavalry.
It's just a meme because it is annoying to deal with.

>>54803944
Halberd Demigryphs.
But Surtha's chariot hordes will probably be no more with the Norsca update.

>>54803781
He needs his own novel, titled the "Lord of Chariots"

>>54803987
Surtha starts with two extra chariot units, and he gets a unique chariot mount at the start of the game.

One thing has always bothered me about Fantasy in general.

The humble sling should be a fairly common weapon, for militia purposes or otherwise. Despite this, Skaven are the only army that uses them in the game proper from 7th onward, and the only other option in 6th were Gnoblar Flingers, from a White Dwarf army.

What gives? You think Bretonnia or the Empire would find use for slingers or sling-staves, or that the Lizardmen would have Skinks with Atlatls...

Also, how come foot Marauders don't get access to throwing axes, or any other cavalry get options for javelins?

>>54804029
>The humble sling should be a fairly common weapon
But.. it is. In WFRP.
>You think Bretonnia or the Empire would find use for slingers or sling-staves
Not really? You didn't find sling units in 13th century English/French armies or 17th century German armies.

>>54804029
The Church of Sigmar banned slings in the Empire after getting BTFO by Sisters in Mordheim.

>>54804029
I think Ungor Raiders could also replace their Short Bows with Slings. However, Slings would be out of place in Bretonnian or Empire armies. The only exception to this would be if Bretonnian ever gets Peasant mobs as a unit.

>>54804141
If Empire got more Halfling back in THEN that's the only circumstances they would have slingers, the Halfling Fieldwardens are known for their talent with the sling and using it to pick off undead abominations cross the border into the Moot from vampire central.

Who should've won the battle for Karak Eight Peeks? Who was more deserving of it?

Are they fixing the goblin exploit?

>>54804200
Belegar Ironhammer, the one and only King of Karak-8-Peaks

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>>54804264
>Belegar Ironhammer

That's a funny way of spelling Skarsnik stunty.

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>>54804077
Pic related is from the 5th Crusade; the chronicler for this passed in 1259. To a lesser degree, the staff sling could be used for launching alternative munitions which admittedly might make it better as an Arabyan Weapon. Staff Slingers could take on a "Sternguard" role, launching naft pots, scorpions, or stones. Or holy water flasks, flash powder, etc.

>>54804141
Aren't Carcassone Shepherdesses a thing or is that simply WHRP canon?

>>54804315
Carcassonne Shepherds don't get the sling skill.

>>54803781
Chariots are shit. Chariots and Marauder Horsemen together are really shit.

I don't know if I feel justified for being pissed at having just about every fucking battle come down to me attempting to whittle down chariots and have archers shoot marauder horsemen enough for them to break, or if I should just try to accept it and be glad the AI can think of more than 'spam basic infantry' like the Vampire Counts do.

>>54804264
>Belegar
>Got all the soldiers needed to suceed
>Constantly needs to be saved by Thorgrim
Not
>Skarsnik
>Started everything from scratch
>Never needed any help

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KANGZ CONFIRMED, KANGZ CONFIRMED!

>>54804560
Worst part is that this might be a throwaway line for a faction that will never come.

Best part is that this might be just a fun buff now, but in the future could mean a fleet of Tomb Kings will be landing on your shores within ten turns.

>>54804200
Queek

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>>54803781
>ASININE MORTAL

>>54804863
Fury Wheels. Witness!

>>54803210
allahu ratbar

>>54804560
There was a story about these Marauders who stole Settra's crown. This sounds like it.

>>54805303
It was honestly a really cool story - Marauders fighting through the desert, and actually beating down Settra, but he comes back and goes all the way to fucking Norsca for his treasure. All those not!Egyptian skellies and statues fighting in the blizzards and mountains.

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Any ideas on how to turn the raggedy glade guard into slaves?
They're small and thin enough to not look too out place with the historicals that are the bulk of the army and they are gonna need their heads as well since they're humans, but the fixed arms are a problem.
Drilling a hole in their hands and attaching pikes sound good or should I try and have them be more like free company militia?

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>>54802877

>>54805339
Inspired by last thread's Araby discussion?

One option could be to take several strips of sprue, and "carve down" the hands/arms for them. That said, I have this kit, and it's about half and half fixed-arm torsos, and "mix and match" torsos anyway, right? I think you have some leeway to convert them, or use greenstuff to cover up where their capes should be.

>>54805441
I've been building this army for weeks at this point, just that it's slow going.
Cutting off the bow arm and adding some Numidian or Mahdist arms could work.

Nth for Malekith is the true king.

>>54805607
Phoenix kings are overrated

>>54805616
Emperor > King

>>54805643
Prince + Emperor

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>>54805616
That would have made too much sense for end times.

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>>54802897
They are best waifus from all fantasy in my opinion.

>>54806037
There is literally a Bretonnian knight that is secretly a woman, who is looking for a trustworthy noble man to leglock so she can have a heir, and people still want elf-fus that probably will manipulate you for the good of their race?

>>54806359
>trustworthy noble man
So someone who can best her, or just someone who is the epitome of chivalry?

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>>54806037
>one sees you as less than a dog
>the other wants to enslave and murder you
>the third just shoots on sight

>>54806385
That's not how it works in a waifufags head.

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>>54806379
Someone who can keep secret that she's a woman, and yet help her out with her obvious problem of siring a heir. Well, I imply the siring part, but she wants a 'true' heir, and how else is she going to get one if she's the last of her line?

>>54806359
Bret woman would never settle for a non-Bret man and and no Bret man would have a woman who dresses like a Bret man.

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>>54806470
You need to actually like the woman before the waifuism takes root.

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>>54806359
>Wanting manface dykes
Instead of Intelligent, competent martial who will age and die long time after you and your half-elven kids.

>>54806385
Asur are likely to view humans as equals, there are examples of romantic relationships.

>>54806490
She's going to have to find a dude who wants to live as a woman to play the wife while she plays knight and lord.

>>54804863
Fucking CHARIOTS

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>>54806575
By Sigmar NO.

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>>54802796
Soon

Quick rundown on the chaos dwarfs

>High Elves Bow to Chaos Dwarfs
>In contact with Old Ones
>Rumored to possess warp like abilities
>Control the dark lands with an iron fist
>Own ziggurats and dark factories all over the world
>Direct descendants of the ancient Hashut bloodline
>Will bankroll the first cities on Morrslieb (Hashutdangrad will be the first city)
>In the process of terraforming Mannslieb as their personal moon city
>Own basically every Orc DNA editing research facility in the Old World
>First designer babies will be Bull-Centaur babies
>Every dwarf is said to have 400+ IQ
>Ancient Nehekarhan scriptures tell of a race of demi-gods who will descend upon the Old World and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Chaos Dwarfs
>They have Zharrbot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Zharrbots inside you right now
>Every child has the mark of Hashut implanted in them at birth
>The Chaos Dwarfs are in regular communication with the Chaos god Hashut, forwarding the word of the Bull god to the Zharr-Naggrund temples
>Discovered the Sword of Khaine
>They learned fluent Brettonian in under a week
>Caledor Dragontamer allows them full access to Ulthuan
>Dwarf clans entrust their Gromril reserves with the Chaos Dwarfs. There is no gromril in Karak-a-Karak, only Zharr-Naggrund
>The race is 67000 years old, from the space time reference point of the base elf
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing at all points of time, from the arrival of the old ones to the end times
>They have been able to access the chaos record since birth, and have spoken about what they saw while they were newborns
>The chaos dwarfs will guide the old world into a new age of chaos, technology and Hobgoblins

>>54806564
>Asur are likely to view humans as equals
Despite their entire lore? I hahe my doubts.
>there are examples of romantic relationships
There is one example of an elf man pumping and dumping a human girl.

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>>54806564
>tfw you will never ever ensure your Elven waifu is always sexually satisfied by making sure she always has descendants to fuck

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>>54806747
>Despite their entire lore?
Who are Finubar and Teclis?

>>54806820
>grooming your son and then grandson to fuck your wife
What manner of cuckoldry is this?

>>54806852
Isn't this proper conduct? The mother gives the father more daughters to fuck. The father gives the mother more sons to fuc.

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>>54806820
>>54806888
You belong in pic related

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>>54806846
>Finubar the cuck
>Tec"let's not have this meatshield go away"lis
If anything that it's just 2 out of their entire race for all that time really speaks volumes.

>>54806575
Or maybe she'd be willing to let you pose as Frederic Desfleuve for a year, while she acted as your wife. If she got pregnant, it'd be impossible to hide it after a few months, let alone fight, so it wouldn't be feasible to be a knight during that time. She has a baby, and if it's a girl (unless she wants to go through the whole problem for another generation) you two can try again. If it's a boy, she praises the Lady, gives you a kiss, and probably sets off on a Grail Quest while naming you steward of her son and her lands. And then you dump it on another steward because you don't let shit tie you down, you were in it for the nightly knightly pussy.

>>54806820
>Sekai and Makoto are related
Does that make him her uncle?

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>>54806913
One is ruler of whole race, other is most powerful mage of race, its says a lot about elves if their most important people fond of humans.

>>54806820

Wouldn't the last son be like 95% the exact same DNA as the dad? It's basically a perfect clone.

>>54806686
If you want to do a garbage tier meme do the virgin dwarf vs the chad dwarf

>>54806967
No way fag. The Bogpill is transcendent.

>>54806954
One is ruler over a third, the inbred hillbillies and even bigger cuckolds don't obey him.
The other, well fondness is too strong a word.

>>54806961
No, it would closer to a random mishmash of the dudes current genes.

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>>54806961
Nah. Pic related is perfect & has 100% his father's DNA

>>54807008
The bogs are last year's milhouse.

>>54806943
Holy hell you're right. That makes her a kinslayer.

>>54807008
But think about all the people who don't know shit about Chaos Dwarves that will actually believe even half of that.

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>>54807074
She also made out with his girlfriend. It's a miserable day when you cheat on your girlfriend and you find your girlfriend cheating on you with the exact same person you cheated on her with,

>>54807141
At that point you might as well drop the pretense and straight up ask if there's room for one more.

Watermelon or bust!

How do Witch Hunters and Vampire Hunters work in lands outside of the Empire? Are there private organizations and institutions, instead of the central Templar order in the Empire?

>>54807141
Is that how it's like being a Dwarf bride? Married to multiple men because of the low female birth rate & unsure who's the father every pregnancy?

>>54807196
Not all Imperial Witch Hunters are Templars either. Most are employed by the nobility and operate within the lands of their patron.

I imagine the same could apply to the likes of Tilea, Estalia and the Border Princes.
Kislev has Chekists.

>>54807141
>in summer days Makoto can fuck Sekai's mom
>who is his sister
I'm scared now.

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>>54807266
Slaanesh loves 0verflow. Last game, Makoto got his mom pregnant. Some time previously, he also fucked a guy. Needless to say, Tomaru is already a Daemon Prince.

>>54807344
Wait, I just realized. In all of Malekith's years of motherfucking, he never got his mom pregnant?

>>54807344
Didn't someone cut off Tomaru's dong? I'd wager that halted his ascension.

>>54807377
If you cut off a Slaaneshi's wang, you only make the person enjoy a new sensation of pain followed by mutation into some daemon penis.

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>>54807377
Since when has that stopped an ascension?

>>54807377
Urotsukidoji tells me no.

>>54807447
Speaking of Griffith, has any Tzeentch champion needed to sleep with somebody as part of their plan? It could to manipulate or gain trust.

>>54807255
>not all Imperial Battle Wizards are from the Colleges either

>>54807564
What chaos god is Griffith pledged to?

>>54807585
Himself

>>54807424
So you're saying they become a Lust Penis?

Can a beastman become a daemon prince if they had the power?

>>54807765
No.

>>54807786
What's the absolute pinnacle one may reach if gifted by the gods?

>>54807853
Nothing.

>>54807566
All college affiliated wizards are technically paupers.

>>54807876
They literally become Slaanesh in the upcoming lore? Woah.

In WFRP v2, what does it mean to "complete" a career?

>>54808076
Get all upgrades, skills and - depending on the GM, sometimes the equipment too.

>>54807765
If the Chaos Gods decide they like them enough, yeah. But there's generally no reason to.

>>54808076
You need to have taken every stat advance and every skill and talent unless you have it already or it says 'X or Y' in which case you only need to take one of the two.

>>54808143
>>54808100
Do I have to take advances in just the Main Profile, or both?

>>54808185
Both.

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>>54808076
see
>>54808143

but vis >>54808100, RAW, you only need the career's equipment to ENTER the career. Still, many DMs are equipment-flexible, or contrive to arrange that some impractically expensive items become available. Others prefer to avoid this and take the 'let fate decide' approach, which tends to get you much odder PC career paths and more ruthless PCs who may be willing to do things like rob the dead or murder travelers on the road, depending on the player.

>>54807765
Yes but it's damn hard. The thing about beastmen is that serving Chaos is as fundamental as breathing for them. They don't need any divine gifts as incentive, they'll serve anyway. Therefore to stand out amongst beastmen & get branded & shit you need some extreme devotion. To be a Doombull is hard enough, to reach Daemonhood? Damn.

>>54808204
So is it possible to accidentally enter a career, or to backslide from a professional soldier to a coal burner?

>>54808290
Do you think bringing down a whole race and converting their realm to chaos would qualify?

>>54808304
Only Slave, I think.

>>54808304
The only listed career that you can accidentally enter is Slave. Anything else is GM discretion.

>>54808304
Slave is the only career, RAW, you can be forced to enter. You can always enter any previous career's exits, and can 'laterally' enter a basic career at any time by paying 200 XP to exit from your current one (finished or not). So yes, RAW, it's possible. Though most DMs will expect some sort of justification in roleplay for career changes.

>>54808290
Some of the RPG fluff suggests otherwise, at least for the ones that look mostly human and have no horns.
After being driven out of their villages for such obvious mutations they turn to beastmen (who are seemingly always nearby), who don't exactly accept them as equals but at least don't try to kill them on sight.
After that it's an easy jump to make; you spend you life getting rejected and then one group at least halfway accepts you AND gives you the opportunity to deal some payback to everyone who rejected you? That's a situation that people who AREN'T half goat-person do in real life.

The Gors who are born in beastmen tribes are likely Chaos worshippers from the time they're old enough to worship though simply because they know no other life to lead and because the potency of the Ruinous Powers is extremely obvious to them.

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>>54808596
>>who are seemingly always nearby

>>54808644
I wonder why some areas have such concentrations - especially in the lower part of the Southlands - and why some areas have little to no Beastmen activity at all, like in Lustria. I get it's a death jungle, but you'd think they could spread there, and GW seems to enjoy allowing other factions the chance to face lizzards.

>>54808728
The Southlands is lawless while Lustria is not only a death jungle it has the temple cities that need guarding. The Slann won't suffer Chaos in their lands. They only allow humans to live on the coast if they don't mess with their shit. It's the same with Ulthuan, they won't give an inch of forest for the Beastmen to multiply.

>>54808644
This map makes pretty much no sense desu.

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So the Norsca DLC added alot of new lore, i'll guess i'll sum up what i've found so far.

>Frost Wyrms: So apparently the Frost Wyrms are NOT regular Chaos Dragons. Their commonly thought to be, by scholars, the mutated remnant of a long dead entirely unique ice dragon species. They make underground lairs among the frost, and sleep for centuries, before going on a gluttonous feeding frenzy. Nearly extinct.
>Fmir: Fmir mostly use the Storm of Magic retcons, and lore, but there's a few additions, mainly, indeed, the Fimir are willing to make pacts and alliances with the Norscans as client warriors (for they share common cause), but relations are very heated, as their still very envious of how much favor the Norscans receive.They speak in the black tongue in-game. (It's really, really badass, as they still have hints of Nordic accents while they speak)
>Marauder Champions: They are NOT aspiring Chaos Warriors like people thought they we're going too be. Their just Marauders who wandered to the Chaos Wastes, and successfully competed challenges from the dark gods, and have received much favor. They have no mutations, their just highly skilled, long-lived champions. So I guess their a different path to Chaos Warriors (Huscarls if you will). Hopefully they appear as an elite career path in the new RPG.
>Everchosen: Archaeon's apparent destiny of the one true everchosen was a massive, pathetic lie. Wulfarik and Throgg can claim the title, and the game mentions, after destroying Archaeon, the gods themselves have now bestowed the power and title to their new champions. Belakor was made of shit.

I'll add more when I find more.

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>>Archaeon's apparent destiny of the one true everchosen was a massive, pathetic lie.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

inb4 carnac shows up to defend his husbando

>>54809213
he'll probably say it's all part of belakor's plan or something because belakor is always right and all powerful and all knowing and never lies and is never wrong and has a gigantic penis

>>54808947
How so?

>>54806686
This does raise a question - do newborn Chaos dwarfs have some sort of 'Coming of Age' ceremony where they pledge themselves to Hashut?

>>54809485
They get circumcised in a zhatanic gay sauna and then bind daemons to the removed chode foreskin.

>>54809485
It's not really said, but we know at least some are messed with while still inside their mothers using sorcery...I'm dancing around the issue a little bit, but there's no doubt in my mind that at some point, before they're born or after, they're pledged to Hashut. No Chaos Dwarf seems to ever question their loyalties on that front.

>>54806913
Finubar is probably the only elf in warhammer who isn't a complete faggot.

>>54808100
>sometimes the equipment too.
Wasn't there one where Entry or Exit was conditioned by having half a dozen master-crafted weapons that are normally costly as hell so people cheaped it out by getting 1 of weapon they intend to use and 5 Daggers?

>>54809641
That's Champion and no GM worth his salt would allow that. I always say they have to be different weapons.

>>54809664
If you're smart, by then you've kissed up to a nob who likes you and DOESN'T fuck you over.

>>54808728
Lizardmen furiously wipe out any creature of chaos on Lustria, which is why skaven are so butthurt.

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>>54809000
>>54809213

STOP BULLYING ARCHAON

>>54803210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0

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>>54809888

>>54809289
I think he means how randomly they're spread out, with no logical migration routes

>>54809995
So spreading from the northern wastes, as well as random mutation, breeding in high concentration areas isn't good enough? It just shows where they *dominate*. In most of the world the forests are *theirs*.

>>54809995
Migration? Given how many beastmen occur from mutation in other species, migration shouldn't be a massive issue.

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>>54809995
It's not like they all start at the poles and head for the center. That's probably how some started out and moved to where they are today, but others probably just sprouted up there as part of mutation and Chaos taint, or were artificially moved in rare cases like slave-taking.

The only guarantee, if any, is that they tend to live in forests, but they also live in mountains and plenty of other areas, mostly being nomadic.

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Does anyone have these actual pages scanned or in good resolution? KF looks sick af here.

Hes even wearing the old armor used in Age of Reckoning which imo looks better than Total War's

>>54810466
Get that shit out of here.

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>>54810466

Ascendant Franz is NOT my emperor.

>>54810466
But that's not KF

>>54810385
The map also combines fanon with assumptions, taking that page in your pic for example of there being mysterious ape-man sightings in the Southlands and turning it into gigantic roving hordes of Beastmen living there.

Neither Beastmen nor Chaos have strong influence or even a presence in every single part of the world. I recall (and may be wrong) that traders or travelers from Nipon and Cathay have no idea what the forces of Chaos even really are.

>>54810740
Cathay had state Tzeentch worship.

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>>54810740
Well, the lore page is an in-universe perspective and leaves things up to doubt with most of what it says - which is fair, some people may enjoy goat Beastmen more than trying to kitbash lizards for their warherd in Naggaroth. But I think we have to assume the map is accurate, since I think it's an out-of-universe perspective - I don't see how anyone in-universe could get that knowledge. Even if there's still wiggle-room to have some herds not in places or in places they aren't marked, it's still clear where the big clusters of them are.

>>54806575
YO

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>>54809995
Logic goes against chaos.

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The final battle...

Can I pull it off? I hope so.

>>54811513
it would actually be impressive if you lost

>>54811513
Is Gaulrach in the game? I could see him in there as the Chaos Dragons look like they'd be reskins of him, since Chaos Dragons have two heads, not just one split in half like their ancestor.

>>54795061

did you ever find it?

>>54809000
>accepting fanwank as canon

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>>54809000
Fuck damn it. Every time I hear Frost Wyrm, I think of Warcraft.

Still miss Arthas

>>54811776
CA is pretty much on the front lines of further lore in Warhammer Fantasy. GW would rather forget WHFB ever existed and move on to Age of Smegmar. It all sounds fine to me.

>>54811776
I'll take it over End Times.

>>54809000
>entirely unique ice dragon species

This bothers me because there are already other dragon-like creatures present in the game, like wyverns, merwyrms, and sea dragons. They're distant kin to dragons, but they don't need to be 'entirely unique' to still be very different from dragons.

Other stuff seems pretty cool, though I still don't get how Fimir survive that far north. They live in marshes and bogs, they look pretty amphibious or lizardlike to me - I don't think they're made for frozen north temperatures.

>>54811776
>Fanwank
>official licensed product made with the approval and co-operation of GW

The SAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLT

>>54811873
Norsca has swamplands on it's southern coast. Especially along the Troll Country border.

>>54811776
TWW is canon dipshit.

>>54811885
Star Wars shit is officially licensed and yet it's not canon

>>54811873
Oh, and I forgot about Theralind's Brood and dracoleeches, but they don't seem related to dragons. And are restricted to specific parts of Bretonnia, a little stupidly.

>>54811776
> literally written and overseen by an ex-GW writer
> full approval of GW

>>54811916
That is a very different situation and you know it. That franchise needed a reboot with how much of a mess it got.

>>54811916

It was up until it was explicitly removed from canon and all the new stuff published post-purge is canon.

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>>54811926
Likely because of the large coastline that these beasts inhabit. It could be anywhere from the area, to local plants and animals and plain ol' weather.

>>54811945
>how much of a mess it got
Even with the Travis Mandalorians & shit, there gems. Current lore is fucktons worse.

>>54811916
Don't be disingenuous. The Star Wars shit was canon until the Mouse set it all afire to make room for their new canon.

>>54806907
nigga on the left just trying to finish his homework

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I miss Kyle.

The real problem (as has been discussed before) is that there's no actual canon anymore. With GW initiating the End Times and closing out the saga of WHFB there's no governing body, and GW's opinion on canon is always Black Library and Armybooks, with the most recent publication trumping anything older than it, because to warhammer (40k and FB) the canon is the least important part of the hobby. What's important are stories specifically newer stories which get people interested or excited into buying more models. Oh gee this dwarf novel is super cool time to build a 3000 point dwarf army.


As has been pointed out before the TW "canon" is largely guessing at a lot of pre-established grey areas, it's hardly official by any stretch of the imagination, but because of the end times it doesn't matter, only you will care about your headcanon because canonically the world that was is just that. The world that was. Not is.

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Re-posting from the last thread, how the FUCK do I Dwarf? It's supposed to be an easy start but as soon as I secure the silver road, I am surrounded by aggressive enemies on all sides. Zhufbar and Karak Hadrin always get their shit pushed in by Von Carstein and call to me for help, and Barak Var and Karak Azul always get their shit slapped by the Orks. Meanwhile Waagh and Beastmen hoards are spawning constantly, everything is expensive, and Grimgor likes to roll up on me with 3 doomstacks full of elite units and RR's while i'm still rocking Warriors and Quarrelers w/ Grudge Throwers. I appreciate how it encapsulates the feeling of being utterly fucked as Dwarves are, but how the cockdicks do I succeed? Should I just abandon the other holds to their fates and pick at their remains like a fucking vulture?

>>54812074
Hush now. No salt. Only cucked Archaeon

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Why is Age of Sigmar so popular? The artistic vision looks pretty shitty to me aside from a few units. The blending of 40k and upping fantasy elements to the limit just looks works.

Plus, the setting seems boring. Gods vs. Gods. Not really something I enjoy.

>>54812177

It totally eludes me. I would like to think it's failling, but thieir discussion has lasted up until now so I can only assume that it actually is capable of holding a growing fanbase.

Seeing the aesthetics, I'd either be offended and go back to Fantasy or realize that 40K does a better job and go there. AoS seems to hit a sweetspot between the two that I cannot perceive.

>>54812177
As someone who likes/doesn't mind AoS:

Really high fantasy, which is somewhat unique. Usually "high fantasy" means wizards and knights and shit. In this case it's construct angels using magical crossbows to blast lightning bolts at each other. That at least is unique.

It was new, injected life into the franchise

Downside: All the nuance and charm of the old setting was obliterated to make something much simpler, pretty much just WH40k but not.

>>54812159
Just focus on the Badlands. Don't worry about Zhufbar and Kadrin unless they fall completely, so don't enter any defensive alliances with them until you secure the Badlands.

What I did was just march down the World's Edge mountains to the bottom, then slowly worked my way East. Also help out Barak Varr since they'll help take orc pressure of ya.

>>54812225
I've been saying it for a while now. Making something like Age of Sigmar made sense, and it has some interesting things to it.

However, the fact remains that they killed Warhammer Fantasy to make it.

>>54812225

>In this case it's construct angels using magical crossbows to blast lightning bolts at each other. That at least is unique.

I get your point, but to me that just sounds like Space Marines wth magic to handwave their existence instead of all the cool stuff about surgery and implants.

>>54812177
>>Why is Age of Sigmar so popular?
It isn't. I've been to a GW more than a few times and have never seen an AoS game going. Selling AoS doesn't mean much when you rebrand WHFB as AoS.

>>54812074
Go away Belakor worshipper.

One of the worst things in TWW is how they gave that dipshit a reference, so he exists in an otherwise perfect universe.

>>54811800
>bring back Illidan
>bring back all kinds of characters
>the lich king that succeeded arthas plotline s dropped

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glorious

>>54812341

Should have gone with robes instead of the slutty middriff and chicken legs.

>>54812341
>round base
Hmmmm.

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>>54812159
I recommend at the beginning within the first 5 turns, get defensive alliances with Zhufbar and Barrak Var, and war coordinate them reclaim the orc-controlled lands near them as soon as possible.

Best case scenario is that Barrak Var and Zhufbar get total control of the lands near them, you can trade with Zhufbar, and they start doomstacking anyone near them. At the least, you want Barrak Var to claim Barag Dawazbag, so orcs near there don't deter you, and you wanna get yourself on a road to good relations with Zhufbar so you can military alliance them to get in contact with Karak Hadrin, and start war coordinating them to deal with their threats.

By turn 6-8, you wanna have a second lord and build a stack of at least 10 units, and at least 2 quarrellers, and both of you move onto the Greenskin capital, Black gate or whatever.

Also, in combat, try to set up on hills or inclines to tire out and weaken an enemy's charge, and have your quarrelers focus fire on high-threat, non-armored units, followed by goblins (again from biggest threat to lowest). Keep your army's position rather boxed in, formations 3+ lines deep, and don't have all your melee infantry engaged at once. Have front lines get caught in the donnybrooks, and then shift-right click drag paths for your "inner" infantry to flank around the enemy. And with your Grudgethrower, have it hit heavily armored, big-threat troops or wherever multiple groups of enemies are clumped up, and have it focus on Broken units to keep them Broken or Shatter them.

Khazukan Kazakit-ha!

>>54812341
Arkhan was better.

>>54812455

He really was, aesthetically he proves that sometimes less is more, even in the world of Warhammer where big hats are the rule.

>>54812253
The thing is, they could have completly remade the Old World and changed the setting to be copywritable without fucking squatting it. It's a shame they couldn't stand to be more creative. Just have the Slaan return at the last minute with the Gods of Order to fuck Chaos at the moment of Triumph. The ephemeral winds of Chaos distort time, space, and remake but not destroy the world. Fast forward a century. Now you have the New World

>>54812523

What really have to wonder is: i the issue was copyright names, why not just use the in-setting alternate names they already had (dawi, dawi zharr, asur, druchii, asrai, etc?)

I'm not exactly knowledgeable of many fantasy settings, but I imagine those were original right?

>>54812563
Yeah, and rename Tomb Kings to Nehekharans, Brets can remain the same I bet, and Empire called be called Empire of Sigmar.

>>54812563
They kind of did that with grots, but I think they also wanted to make things NEW for Age of Sigmar. Even if everything was already old, repackaged.

>>54812523
>Order
Belakor weeps

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>>54812341
Not even the sexiest

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>>54812727
>new
>discount 40k, but more expensive

>>54812793
Well, we legit had various racial gods, and they opposed chaos. Close enough for me.

Probably have to condense Ursun, Ulfric, and that animal god into one dude tho

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>>54809000
More tidbits I found

>Ice Trolls: A sub species of regular Chaos Trolls that come from far beyond Troll Country in Kislev, originating from the dark north. Really stupid, even by troll standards, but are still considered useful shock troops for the Norscans. Instead of throwing up acidic bile, the up chuck iceshards from their insides, as they prefer their dinner frozen and chilly.

>Skin Wolves: Same as Storm of Magic, but with some additional lore tidbits. There affliction can also be caused by a witches curse, not just Chaos corruption. Once unleashed, the beast inside, completely consumes the person they used to be, physically, and mentally, and they can never take human form again.

>Berserkers: Not much, but they consume vast quantities of alcohol before battle to reach their inner rage state.

>New Dwarf Lore: Northern Dwarfs engage in brutal, genocidal hunts that have wiped out countless herds of ancient mammoths, just for the heck of it, and too boast. Dawi are evil.

>Cathy Slaves: Female Cathy Slaves are heavily valued by the Norscans, and the implication is their given out to be rape and used by the warriors that prove themselves in battle.

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>>54812869
You know how sometimes there will be a remake of a decades-old classic movie, and they'll shift things around and try and take it in a new direction, but it flops? It's like that.

>>54812975
How would Norscans get slaves all the way from Cathay? Trading with the Kurgans?

On that note, do we still have no idea what the Marauder tribes north of Naggaroth will look like? I'm terrified they'll be just generic Norscans.

>>54805303
>stole Settra's crown

makes me think of that venture brothers episode where the minions kidnapped Hank and Dean and the monarch exploded at them for doing that instead of just spying because it meant Brock would come kill everyone.

>>54812919
Just have End Times with less asspulls & shit.

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>>54813006
Really going to be disappointed if they're just Norscan reskins. I wanted to do one for the Hung, too, but there's not enough to go on.

>>54812975
>>New Dwarf Lore: Northern Dwarfs engage in brutal, genocidal hunts that have wiped out countless herds of ancient mammoths, just for the heck of it, and too boast. Dawi are evil.
>Dawi are evil

You realize in Warhammer, Mammoths are universally corrupted by Chaos right? As in they're all malevolent and evil chaos beasts?

>>54813006
Presumably by trading with Kurgans. They could get Cathay slaves themselves but that would involve having to sail around multiple continents which would explain the rarity, they are exotic. It would probably also include Nippon women in the level of value.

>>54813076
'Chaos War Mammoths are a tainted and savage race of Mammoths that have been transformed by the raw and mutating powers of Chaos into beasts of destruction. These massive creatures, whose footfalls shake the earth like thunder, are capable through sheer bulk and roused fury of demolishing buildings, trampling forests flat and crushing anything smaller than themselves into an unrecognisable, bloody smear. Although not actually evil as such, they are entirely belligerent and uncaring beasts that cut a swathe of destruction wherever they go, a factor magnified a thousand-fold by the fact that when they have young they travel in communal family herds, are fiercely territorial and respond to any other creature that manages to gather their notice by smashing it into the ground, or if it is a large enough monster in its own right, impaling it with huge tusks the size of mighty tree trunks."

>Not Evil

Straight from Storm of Chaos.

>>54813189
Storm of Magic, my bad.

>>54813189
>tainted by chaos
>belligerent and destructive
>attack anything else on sight

Look, just because it's a fucking dumb animal doesn't change the fact it is literally corrupted by HELL ENERGY made of SPACE RAPE and that it wants to KILL YOU.

>>54813076
To be fair, the Dawi also kill creatures that vary between being evil and good - dragons. Some things just can't work well together. Norscans and mammoths obviously can get along, Dawi and mammoths can't.

>>54802796
They keep making us preorder to play Chaos

>>54813345
Because even CA believes Chaos deserves to pay.

>>54813345
thats what you get for turning from the emp--- from Sigmars light, heretic

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>when now my lovely game wallpaper of a noble band of Bretonnian knights gloriously destroying a horde of undead is replaced with Norscans

It's a small complaint, but I liked that background a lot.

>>54813345
You guys got a complete rework, an entirely new armylist, and the Beastmen. Be fucking grateful! Chaos fags have much to be happy for.

>Insert Chaos Dwarf meme image.

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Why does the Warhammer Online's shadow warrior look like she could be a Sheikah?

>>54813403
>The Sons of Fire get shafted again

The pain is real.

>>54813411
Because you see a Sheikah there where I don't? The only Sheikahs I remember ever seeing looked kind of ninja-ish.

>>54813444
His autism tries to force something, please ignore.

>>54813398
there's a little arrow that lets you change the background.

At least there is on mine, could be from a mod

>>54813411
Shame how that game failed, it was fun :(

>>54813479
At least the guy's making another RvR game without the pressure of EA telling him halfway into development to "make it like WoW".

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>>54812306
>>bring back Illidan
>make him super saiyan chosen one of light and dark of the universe
>he only pretended to be retarded repeatedly

>>54813444
That is a ninja anon.

>>54804206
What goblin exploit?

>>54813496
Suddenly I'm thinking that as long as Arthas remains dead, he can't be fucked with.

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>>54813490
ehhh?

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>>54813479
At least /u/ cannot touch this one.

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>>54813560
We already own her.

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>>54813573
muh dick

>>54813584
Lets be honest, while she would probably sexually tease her, if she captured her, it would be a horrifying guro fest.

>>54813617
Agreed, but what about if the Dark Elf captured the high elf instead

>>54813573
>>54813411
I heard there was a private server somewhere and you could still play?

>>54813542
Camelot Unchained.
It isn't Warhammer, but it's looking like the most promising RvR game that's in development. Inspired mostly by his first game, Dark Age of Camelot.

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>>54813647

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>>54813510
Nuh uh

>>54813660
returnofreckoning in the OP
this would be the worst time of night to play (euro heavy), primetime is in approx. 9-11 hours

>>54813573
>Filename: FrigidBitch.webm

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>>54813688
Naw son, this is a ninja.

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> TWW brings back Hordes of Chaos
> Warriors, Daemons, Beastmen, Skaven, Norsca, Fimir, and Chorf units all under one army pool

>>54813716
Won't various units automatically be obsolete?

>>54813716
That's ugly garden gnomes.

I've only had the briefest look at the new Bretonnian RoRs, but I like how some of them seem to be including unused Dukedom colorschemes, like the Yeomen Archers from Montfort.

>>54813716
Honestly if any game were to do it, it would be Total Warhammer. Chaos Spawn, Giants, Harpies, and Manticores are already shared between a few different factions (Dark Elves will probably get Manticores when they're in), and it'd be child's play to allow WoC to recruit some Beastmen or Chaos Dwarves.

I'd be sketchy about throwing Skaven into that though. They don't seem to play well with other Chaos types, since they don't serve the Big Four.

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How are Warriors of Chaos in online multiplayer? Complete beginner here. Love their fluff and aesthetic but curious how they fair in battle.

>>54813776
They have a really fun campaign with the new patch, but their...rather mixed in multiplayer. Their high tier infantry is unstoppable, the problem is their super, super expensive.

Should we make the next general in /vg/? No one even talks about the actual game anymore, this general has no place in/ tg/. The roleplayfags can make their own general.

>>54814337
And leave Age of Sigmar general live? No way.

>>54814337
It's way easier to talk about the fluff on /tg/ though.

>>54814337
This place still has more lore discussion than /vg/.

>>54814337
We can wait for the Be'lakor-fag to make this thread about lore again. But yeah, a bit too much video game discussion around here. Not even video game lore that adheres to the fluff, outright gameplay discussion.

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>>54814337
I think there's enough lore discussion to keep WFB here, and I don't think there's enough discussion in the game alone to keep it on /vg/, especially when there's already a Total War general thread there. The main reason there's so much game discussion now is because of the new update, but that will fade as time passes, or just get more regulated to /twg/, since lore discussion is generally more popular here than modding or game stats.

I don't think there's enough discussion to keep a WHRP-only general going, especially since the newest edition is still maybe years in the future. And there's also still aspects of the wargame to talk about - the occasional painted model and a couple of battle reports, as well as other rules-related questions for people who still play. That and the lore keeps the general alive and kicking, even if the added game discussion makes it fast.

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How can I justify taking the Shieldbreaker career as my starting career if my Dwarf character was born and raised in the Empire, not in a Dwarf hold? He's never even been to a Dwarf hold.

>>54814786
"Young Dwarfs
from the Empire often become
Shieldbreakers to prove their mettle
and show solidarity with their
mountain kin."

So unless your character has been to a hold at least once, it's probably not justifiable.

>>54807585
I think it would either be Tzeentch or undivided

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>>54809000
>Everchosen: Archaeon's apparent destiny of the one true everchosen was a massive, pathetic lie. Wulfarik and Throgg can claim the title, and the game mentions, after destroying Archaeon, the gods themselves have now bestowed the power and title to their new champions. Belakor was made of shit.

based CA

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Paradox Interactive making a Warhammer Fantasy when?

>>54815001
>>54809000
> Be'lakor revealed to be a colossal liar
> suddenly the Chaos Gods of Law exist again

>>54809000
I need a screen of the last lore tidbit

for vengeance

>>54815009
>Mount and Blade: Warhammer, coming soon after Bannerlord

>>54814337
/twg/ hates Total Warhammer. Also fuck off.

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>>54809213
>>54809000
>>54815001

>>Everchosen: Archaeon's apparent destiny of the one true everchosen was a massive, pathetic lie. Wulfarik and Throgg can claim the title, and the game mentions, after destroying Archaeon, the gods themselves have now bestowed the power and title to their new champions. Belakor was made of shit.

are you guys dumbasses or what? I already explained this in older post from another thread.

Be'lakor will simply reset the timeline like every single time Archaon died or usurped because Be'lakor wrote that ARCHAON is the guy destined to end the world. Not Wulfrik, not Throgg, not anyone.

And the Archaon novels are in-game canon too. So you guys are screwed.

>>54802861
these are the most classy motherfuckers I've ever seen

>>54815009
It's called Geheimnisnacht.

>>54815096
But be'lakor is a lie, carnac.

A LIE.

>>54815096
Why is Be'lakor so invested in Archaon, anyway? What's his endgame?

>>54815071
A man can dream...
Speaking of M&B related arhammer, does anyone else have a problem with lag spikes in warsword?

>>54815121
How dare you? Something gained by a lie is worthless to Be'lakor.

>>54815096
The fact that Archie relies on that level of quantum immortality plot armor to succeed is evidence of how shitty he is as a character.

>>54815131
Possess his body and steal victory from the gods and use the dark glory of the world's end to seat himself as the Fifth Chaos God or better yet topple the Chaos Gods from their thrones.

>>54815146
It pretty much makes him the most pathetic character in all of warhammer, including 40K and AoS

>>54807585

He's the closest thing to a representation of Khorne among the God Hands (besides Guts...) as a warlord who leads an army of monsters, but probably undivided.

Slaan = Slaanesh (obviously)
Void = Ubik (he's described as manipulative, twisting truths)
Conrad = Nurgle (seems to desire only to spread pestilence)
Void = Undivided(?) Like Femto, Void doesn't neatly fit into a spot

>>54815096
>kill everchosen
>reality doesn't reset

the most logical conclusion is that be'lakor doesn't actually reset shit as that would obviously be too much power for a formless fart like him, but instead he simply jumps to another timeline pretending all the others stop existing

>>54815146
>>54815169
>having a dad that looks out for you and cares about you well-being makes you pathetic

Seriously?

>>54815193
Being unable to succeed on your own merits and relying on daddy's influence makes you pathetic, yes.

>>54815193
someone without a real father can't understand

>>54815193
It's the sheer, literal plot armour that's the problem, it doesn't feel like Archeon achieved anything because death to him is pretty much meaningless, even Abaddon, for all his failures, ahieved what he has on his own.
Also
>Caring father
>Be'lakor
Pick one

>>54815221
I pick two. When Be'lakor bisected Archaon during their first battle, Be'lakor down on Archaon's dying form with what's been said to be a "father's regret".

And Archaon bloody achieved everything he set out to do. Be'lakor simply deleted all his failures and death from the timeline. This makes Archaon the most successful Chaos warlord on all of warhams setting since there is no point in the main timeline did he fail. His failures being erased, doesn't erase the effort he did. Be'lakor did not hold his hand during of this. He just simply picked him up whenever he fell down and pushed him forward again towards his destiny like every father should.

>>54815262
>every father should cover your ass for every failure you do

you don't really understand parenthood

>>54815262
The fact that the timelane was erased Morr knows how many times means that Archeon couldn't do it all all by himself, he needs daddy Be'lakor to erase them.
Also erasing and ignoring failures(maybe other than deadly ones) is bad parenthood, child must learn from them

>>54815304
Actually, IIRC, he is aware of some of the resets. When he attempted to suicide himself. He found himself back alive again and he screamed in despair.

Question for the Archy and Bel fanclub; if Bel can reset timelines and Archy goes about destroying universes, do they encounter alternate Warhammer universes on their way? Will Archy and Bel have to throw down against another version of themselves?

Or is the Belly retcannon ability just enough to ahift him into a different timeline and not a hard reset?

>>54815333
It was a stupid retcon story to try and salvage SOMETHING out of Archaeon, don't try to find logic in it and don't pretend there ever was. The whole 'plot' was just a means to an end of forcing the end times so they could reboot into Age of Sigmar, absolutely no thought was put into the implications.

>>54815333
From what I read there are no such thing as parallel universe that similar to one and another. Each universe is unique. That's why daemons are one and the same in the 40K and fanrasy universe. There aren't an infinte number if Be'lakors. Only one.

>>54815355
>>54815348

That's my biggest hassle. Why does Belly have power that is blatantly greater than even the Chaos Gods?

The lack of mention of parallel universes is why I feel it's the most sane answer. Belly thinks he's this genius schemer, but Tzeentch has just booted him off to be a different Tzeentch's problem.

>>54815424
>Why does Belly have power that is blatantly greater than even the Chaos Gods?

If you ask him, it's because he claims he IS greater than the Chaos Gods, they're just fragments of himself that he created, or something.

>>54815449
No, he doesn't. He always says that they are his four sires/fathers.

>>54815449
Wasn't Belly just the first daemon prince?
Morr this dude in dilusional

>>54815424
Tzeentch is called the Master of the Timestream

Be'lakor is 1/4 Tzeentch. This means he is 1/4 time master. It's not like the Archaon novel is the only example of him manipulating time. City of the Damned has him doing it to.

>>54814786

Make him a wannabe Worf type character.

>>54815487
So then why hasn't Tzeentch done something like that?

>>54815500
Who says that he hasn't? You wouldn't know because there aren't any novels written about it.

>>54815162
Why didn't he manage it, what with a time reset button?

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>>54815548
Things didn't go just as planned.

>>54815543
What a copout.

How do you know malekith didn't have a skink concubine? There haven't been any novels about it.

>>54813660
check OP or just google return of reckoning
plenty of videos available so you can check what it looks like. EU primetime gets best action with like 600-800 people online, NA times it drops to 300-500 but you still get some fun pewpew pvp fun. Oceanic players suffer as the server is physically located in France and the playerbase might just be 200-300 during evening in eastern Asia/Australia, that is until the Russian zerglings start logging in. (playing the game it feels almost as if 30-50% of the players are Russian...)

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>>54814337

>we

False flag.

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So if Dogs of War were added, how would they work as a faction? What the legendary lords would be?

>>54815624
Borgo the Beseiger for one

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>>54809000
>a TROLL can be Everchosen, and makes for a better one than Archaon the Hedgehog

>>54815624

>dogs of war
>literally all mercenaries of various descriptions
>faction

???

>>54812177
>Why is Age of Sigmar so popular?

It's not.

>>54815646
Yeah, this, they should be RR's that are gated by loads of dosh rather than level

>>54815671
salt salt salt salt

>>54814337
shoo shoo, smegfag

>>54815638
Guys against his character though. Throgg resented the Chaos Gods and didn't want to join up with Archaon's invasion. He resented them for making him smart among his kind making him feel alone. He sat in Kislev with a bunch of captured mages and forced them to research a way to make his fellow trolls as smart as him. He kept at it until Gotrek "slew" him.

He was teleported to Archaon's place later and had a sad death at the hands of Nagash. He knew he couldn't win but he just wanted peace.

>>54815676
No salt, just a statement of fact. Shit, your general gets lapped by a dead game.

>>54815646
Yeah it works better as a Tilean faction, just wanted to get away from Be'laskub

>>54812177

It isn't. There's no signs that it's popular other than GW announcing its success and popularity constantly. However, I've seen plenty of vitriol or just flat out disinterest in it.

>>54815624
>how would they work as a faction?
they wouldn't

tilea work as a faction
the border princes would

dogs of war should be recruitable options for anyone in friendly relations with whatever place the specific dog of war lives

>>54815714
>>54815750

I tried putting some concept work into a Tilean faction. What I figure is that Tilea should have some core cheap units that are militia, so they are mediocre and suffer from poor morale, but get a leadership bonus when garrisoned. Then, the majority of their units should actually be mercenaries, who cost a dickload of money and upkeep but have a low recruitment/training time. To compensate, they only have one recruitment building (each tier letting them recruit more and more exotic units from more far off locales), and a bunch of economic buildings and a tech tree focused around making mercenaries cheaper or ameliorating cost somehow. They should also be expert looters, getting bonus gold for looting/sacking settlements, possibly even a scavenger agent who can loot ruins.

>>54812177
>Why is Age of Sigmar so popular?
has a supported ruleset, promise of new models and the GW bunkers to find people to play with some reliability.

the setting is barely cared about.

>>54803792
Rune of balance and anvil of doom. As in 'fuck your magic phase you ain't making a single spell all game'

Also literally every magic object from orcs&goblins

>>54815624
Horde faction that only appears when hired by another faction (yourself included). They can operate independently, be ordered about like how you can coordinate with allies and vassals, or 'confederated' so they can serve directly in your force. However, they will always eventually disappear and need time to be rehired, sort of like the Green Knight. They suffer attrition if not regularly paid, but you can order them into raiding stance to help make up the difference from the enemy's pocket.

The basic army will always include a Mercenary Captain lord, a Paymaster hero, and a few generic units of some sort - spearmen, crossbowmen, etc. Those generic units disappear when confederated, since they're really only for helping keep up with TWW's preponderance for large forces. The real meat is the unique units, usually three or four to represent a split-up larger unit. With enough coin, you can have multiple Dogs of War in one army.

>>54804200
Im'tired of seeing dwarfs BTFO at every corner, so Belegar

>>54815762
I'm not really enough in the mindset to comment on how buildings sould be, but from an aesthetic and lore standpoint I always imagined Tilea as composed by 2 main influences that add to the contemporary human flavor of the setting: old rome and DaVincipunk
with the first being mainly religious and entertainment figures related to myrmidia and the second providing uniqueness of tech without overstepping the empire black powder mastery given by the dwarfs.

>>54804447
>Skarsnik
>starting from scratch
Skarsnik and Queek had infinite numbers of troops on their part, yet didn't manage to kill off a guy whose race is literally dying

>>54804200
skarsnik makes more poetical sense to me

>>54815837
From what I remember Tilea is described as a bunch of city states composed primarily of mercenary armies. I think there's also a Leonardo DaVinci character from Tilea, but he fucked off and got most of his inventing done in The Empire.

Are dwarfs physically stronger than humans in Warhammer?

>>54815903
Yes, and sturdier

>>54807253
I'm pretty sure Dwarfs record such things with so much precision they know exactly who the father is

>>54815907

Is there any source that directly states their superiority in physical strength or is it just common knowledge