Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>54736565
Why is that head so small?

first for the Enclave

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>>54736565
first for templar superiority

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>>54736480

I'm just getting into 8th edition and I'm confused about points costs. So a Skorcha (the vehicle) is 49 points, and comes default with a Skorcha (the weapon) as default. Is it 49 points, or do I have to pay the extra for the Skorcha weapon itself?

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>EDGE LORDS edition

2 edgy 4 me

First for Or- oh

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Question. In a month a store near me is having its anniversary and getting the primaris captain with fist and plasma pistol model.

If I buy it for resell purposes, would it sell? Or would too many people do that since they know they're limited edition/1 per day things?

Thinking about getting into some 40k books. Is the Gaunts Ghost books worth getting into?

>>54736618
You pay 49 for the vehicle and then whatever extra for the guns. So for example 13 for a tax marine, and then 0 for his Bolter (or like 9 for a flamer, etc)

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GET IN HERE NIGHT LORDS!! The hunt begins!

So Abaddon is once again the most powerful individual model in the game outside of Titans. Yay or Nay?

>>54736618
The points cost is for the model
Then you pay for his weapons
Think of it as paying for food then ammo

>>54736630
Lots of people would do it but I bet you could flog it for a mark up anyway.

That's a seriously nice model, I would love to buy it and turn it in to a chaos lord

>>54736647
Nah, Girlyman is better like all Ultramarines

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>>54736565
Reminder that the DA broke the NL over their knee just as surely as the Lion broke Kurze's back.
And as the added kicker modern day NL trickery finds no purchase on the iron will of the Deathwing

>>54736638
I prefer the Horus Heresy stuff myself

>>54736630
It would definitely sell but it's also kind of a dick move

>>54736644
Jesus fuck. A skorcha used to be like 35 points, now it's 66.

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>>54736647
>Bobby Gman is still a thing

>>54736618
How about you read the rules, mate?

>>54736647
>>54736673
What he said. Also Magnus is a thing

What do you call Roboute's Camocloak?

The Guilli-Suit!

So how many more changes via FAQ will the stuff in the indexes get, both improving the game and further proving that GW's "playtesters" didn't do their fucking job?

Note that the articles are no longer written by tourney fags
GW makes no mention about playtesting
They have switched to relying wholly on their FB, emails and phone calls for FAQ questions or changes
And much more

Also WAAC tourney fags are a cancer on the gaming community and should be purged, you can't prove otherwise

>>54736673
Negatory, Guardsman, Abby does more damage, has 2+ save, also halves damage, and gives extra CP.

Kinda' sad really.

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Did some kitbashing this weekend, Anons might remember Barry the Blood-Surfer on the left.

>>54736607

*teleports behind you with onager gauntlet*
Kojin wa nani mo arimasen

>>54736708
>implying if WAACfags were involved we wouldn't have the implications you can have groups of 2

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>>54736717
Two more Sorcerers on Discs.

>>54736717
That looks damn fine Anon! The blood surfer must be completed fiiiiinish it.

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Has anyone ever tried to create rules for a game set during the Unification Wars on old Terra?

>>54736717
>KHORNATES next to sorcerers

>>54736732
*teleport behind u with dawn blade*
pshh ethereals are lyin'

>>54736696
Strike from disguise, brothers!

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>muh invincible genestealers!
top kek

>>54736747
Yep and it was cancer, fitting really

>>54736656
>Think of it as paying for food then ammo
wat
why not guns then ammo?

Say I wanted to start reading 40k books, where should I start. I like nids and stuff.

>>54736789
Because you can scavenge guns but not ammo, and he'll have a gun he just can't fire it

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>>54736767
S-stop it gene stealers are elite ELITE!!!!

>>54736708
Now in theory the FAQs are fixing printing errors and unclear wording.

A better question would be how the game would still be balanced given that all space marine infantry can take something like the raven guard or salamanders special rule in addition to obsec at no cost.

Either Space marines pre-codex were MASSIVELY underpowered and needed an armywide -1 to hit buff to make them playable or they didn't playtest for shit and are just codex creeping like usual.

>>54736801
>I like nids
hue
>and stuff.
huehue

>>54736801
are you familliar with the 40k lore ?

>>54736647
Top kek, no not at all. Bobby G and Magnus exist, and by the end of 8th abby won't even be in the top ten.

>>54736716
Are you an idiot. Have you seen Guilliman's statline?

>>54736812
>they didn't playtest WELL for shit
Yes.
>codex creeping like usual.
Well of course, this is New Games Workshop™

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>a nerd who has been napping for millenia
Or
>a veteran of the siege of terra who has the blessings of all 4 chaos gods and literally 10,000 years of experience
t. xenos

This is bad, ppl have had the new codexesii for DAYS and still no photodex.

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>>54736620
>ICANHASCHEEZEBURGER.COM

>>54736868
>poorfags

>>54736767
Equal points of Genestealers vs Zerkers, Stealers wipe them on the charge before Zerkers can swing once.

So, better hope you can somehow hit first, against the guys charging you out of Deep Strike.

>>54736883
>Stealers wipe them on the charge before Zerkers can swing once.
Oh, what's that? A Strategem?
Oops

>>54736826
Yeah I read the rulebook with lore

>>54736716
Are you retarded? Bobby G gives even more command points, does even more damage than abbadon (since he does D:3 rather than D3, at a greater strength and AP, with the ability to do mortal wound to someone other than himself) has a much better set of buff bubbles, has better shooting, a better invul, more wounds and can get back up.
All for a mere 110 points more than abby

>>54736893
There is no stratagem to hit first. Only after a charging unit has fought. Obviously the nid player is going to make his first swings with the most important unit against another strong melee unit.

I want to start a black tempars army because they look cool

Where do I start? LGS says the best thing to do is to buy the plague/space marines box with the rules because it is the best value.

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As a matter of SCIENCE!, I decided to tally up the cogs on Admech models and the numbers of distinctly different base unit designs. Oddly enough, not many Cogs Mech, and most Marine vehicles/larger suits have one or two on anyway. Admech wound up with just as much variety, and far, FAR more considering the relative youth and size of the Admech line to the mega-posterboys.

Also, Marines have a surprising dominance on the robes and cloaks front, and I didn't even count the Dark Angels.
I also didn't go into all the tide of Forge World Marine stuff, in the interests of keeping it somewhat fair between the model line with 9 kits and the model line with hundreds.

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>>54736845
When the veteran is a manlet among manlets and the nerd is THE Alpha Chad poor little abbie's going to sent packing

>pic related, little fucker was born for 25mm

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>>54736869
memes have really gone a long way innit

>>54736883
Zerkers fight the NPC's three times before they can blink. Daemonettes fight them first even if they get the charge. Go home stealer fag your drunk.

>>54736936
>Zerkers fight the NPC's three times before they can blink.
They don't get to fight even once if the stealers charge.

>Daemonettes fight them first even if they get the charge.
No, then it just becomes alternating, and Tyranids get first pick because it's their turn. So they swing first and wipe the daemonettes.

Read the rules.

>>54736565
reminder that night lords like to lounge around buttass naked during downtime for no goddamn reason at all

>>54736845
As a chaos player who's forces are being supplied by him in the lore, I feel like I should support him even if he comes across as a complete dunce.

Go Abby, I'll lend you a hand anytime!

>>54736832

I'm at work so my napkin math isn't great, but the -potential- damage Abby puts out with strategems, traits and good rolls on Drach'nyen does enough to kill Robby.

Then he comes back from the Armors special rule and Beats the shit out of him.

Regardless, it's a moot point since if you put them up against one another, all you do is succeed in wasting them as they have a slugfest.

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>>54736919

>mfw I own abbie and 50 of those metal termies and I put them next to a chad marine to compare size

>>54736912
>LGS says the best thing to do is to buy the plague/space marines box with the rules because it is the best value.
Lol, fuck your shill shop owner.

Get a 10x Tactical squad.
A box of Sternguard.
A box, probably 2 boxes, of shotgun/boltgun scouts.
Get the Black Templar upgrade box.
Get a Land Raider Crusader
Get the Emperor's Champion (or convert your own)
Get Grimaldus

Go fucking nuts.

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>>54736912
I am thinking about starting with reivers

>>54736845
>manlet who took 10,000 years to destroy one planet, needing all that time to prepare, fight 12 other crusades to make him have the best chance and he still almost fails, and who then proceeds to job by getting stuck at cadia while his Crimson path goes a full 90° in the wrong direction
Or
>a son of the emperor, who led great crusade 2.0, has brought the imperium back from the brink of collapse twice, is the main reason the imperium has endured for 10,000 years and who reconquered a great portion of the galaxy in a mere century.

>>54736638
Yes, although the first novel is kind of crap and I got bored of them in the last few. Seems that Abnett did too, because he hasn't bothered to finish the series.

Would also recommend Double Eagle (GG spin-off which works well as it's own thing) and Eisenhorn (kind of a prequel to GG, but set in a completely different area and only has one crossover character who is pretty minor).

>>54736880
meant CSM/GK

>>54736912
No, get a Start Collecting: Space Marines kit. The big box is a good value, but only if you have someone to split it with. The SC: SM is much better value since you don't have to meet a chaosfag.

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>>54736913

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>>54736780
Well that's disappointing, but I can't say I'm surprised though.

>>54736953
Zerkers get the charge by hiding in rhinos?
Rhinos, RHINOS, YOUR ENEMIES HIDE IN METAL BAWKSES.

>>54736801

You start with this book, it is the intro to Tyranid lore

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>>54736985
Thank you anon I will follow your advice.

I was storing my imperial space marine for resale value, but it doesn't look like its going for much on eBay. Should I keep going or just open and build it?

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>>54737037
fuck, I failed
THIS BOOK

>>54737039
I would put the Sternguard last in priority, but it's a great kit and has some great pieces for conversions/upgrades.

>>54737049
How much?

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>TFW Forge World is so retarded it made the Macharius Vulcan cost 1 more point if you take it in a Death Korps army because Death Korps twin heavy stubbers are 8 points instead of 7

>>54737061

I'm seeing buy it now prices of £22 and an auction with only one bid sitting at £7 so I mean

Apparently not very valuable.

>>54736953
Yeah.. nah bruh stealers are still hot garbage.

>>54737024
Tyranids can potentially surround the Rhinos and shred them, then the Zerkers get auto-deleted and nids earn 2 kill points for the price of one. Easier said than done in a real game, but I've seen it happen.

A good player will also wait to either crack the transports or wait for the occupants to disembark before launching his deep strike, instead of going all-in on a turn 1 charge gimmick.

The safest way to deploy is to put the elite guys in Rhinos and screen the Rhinos with cultists, and hope the nid player doesn't have enough shooting to thin out the cultist screen enough for an opening in one round. It all comes down to smart positioning really, which is why melee armies are so much more fun than taufaggotry. I'd watch WE vs bugs over IG vs blueberries any day.

>>54736747
I'm working on one at the moment. Big fan of 40k who cares about things like fluffiness, balance and rules looking clean and easy to read, so hopefully I won't fuck it up.

Do Primarches, Space Marines, and and The Emperor even count as human anymore?

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>7th
>Tau and Eldar were battle brothers
>8th
>Eldar can no longer ally with Tau and in fluff they're joined at the hip with the imperium

>>54736967
Your napkin math is wrong, unless there's a stratagem trait combo that allows abby to do the equivalent of 3 rounds of combat all before Guillman fights. Bobby G statically kill abby in one round, so even if you use a "fight again" stratagem, Guillman's player will use one of the 3 free CP bobby gives ti fight right after abbadon does, and wipe him out before he can kill him.

Funny thing happened yesterday. Another Ork player and I did a quick Konor campaign game, and he brought out his Weirdboy and Megaboss, while I was running with an old Warboss with an Attack Squig and kombi-skorcha, along with a full 30 boy mob of Choppas (well, 27 since 2 were carrying 'eavy weapons and 1 was a Power-klawed Nob.
(there were more units, but this was the highlight of the 1-round long match).

His Weirdboy used 'Da Jump' to warp his Mega-armoured warboss over on my Warboss and choppa mob's flank.

He shoots my Warboss.
My warboss survives.

He charges my warboss AND the mob of boyz.
My kombi-skorcha takes 2 wounds off him thanks to Overwatch, and he manages to save all the overwatch shots from my boyz.

He goes after my warboss to try and take him out immediately, but my boss manages to make it out alive with 1 wound, and brings his Megaboss down to 4 wounds in retaliation.

Then my mob of boyz gets their turn to introduce the enemy boss' face to their choppa. I look across the table at the other Ork player and say bluntly:
>"You just charged a mob full of choppas. A mob with ONE HUNDRED EIGHT attacks. You really didn't think this one through did you?"

His response as I started rolling dice in groups of 20 (to save time):
>"I had an idea, and now I'm really regretting that idea."

His Megaboss died after 40 choppa attacks.

It was a good day.

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>>54737127

>Tau and SM were battle brothers
>this company in charge of the lore

>>54737127
>taudar is dead
Good, let the WAACfags cry me a river

What's the highest cost INFANTRY unit you can think of? Deathwatch terminator with 3x cyclone launchers and 7x SB,PF,meltagun (the special model from the kill team) are a strong candidate (667 points)

>>54737127
First of all Eldar was only AoC with Tau, now they can only ally with other elves

>>54736630
total dick move, let someone else enjoy the damn model

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>>54735765
https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/chaos/chaos-master-of-crusade/

>>54736913
You forgot land speeders, the three different types of primaris and arguably bikes and jump packs (yes, they are wearing power armour, but they clearly visually distinct) as well as the three different dread styles (box, contemptor, redemptor).

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I hate primaris, just knowing they exist make regular marines feel worse.

>>54737128
The fight again stratagem doesn't happen until the end of the phase so the Ultras player doesn't even need to use Counter-offensive to hit before it.

Abaddon will rarely beat Guilliman 1v1. Even Swarmlord usually won't and he outperforms Abby on average I think.

>>54737122
No, they are filthy mutants, and every mutant should be purged on sight.

The Imperium should focus in proper soldiers that do not have a 50% chance of turning traitors.

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>>54737115
Do Terra proud son, I'm sending you all of my positive vibrations.

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I want to get into 40k and make an Inquisition army
I've played Infinity, WarmaHordes, Warhammer Fantasy pre-AoS, Malifaux, and Flames of War

What's a good starting point range for 40k or could I put together a Shadow War force and just add onto it from there?
What are some essentials for playing Inquisition?
How much will I get shit on playing Inquisition?

Most importantly I must absolutely field an eversor

>>54737145
Anon please, Tau are to the ultramarines honorary humans like how the japs were honorary aryans.

>>54737097
Math says otherwise, and now you're out of theory arguments as well.

Also you're going to cry when you see the stratagems Tyranids get in their Codex this year.

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>>54736953
Can't daemonettes use this in an EC list?

>>54736630
It literally doesn't matter because it's made to order - they'll make as many as are needed.

>>54737211
They already fucking have it

>>54737156
Nevermind a paladin squad with 10 hammers and 4 psycannons goes up to 752 points kek

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>>54736565
>tfw no one wants to game tonight nearby
Feels bad, bros. I've been kinda falling out of love with my Admech, and I want to try out my Necrons, but I've yet to get a game in for them.

Reminder that Tyranids are race for women
You can't deny this

>>54737209
>Tyranid codex this year.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha*gasp* hahahahahahhahahahaha

>>54736630
Buy it; learn how to recast. Profit.

>>54737230
Oh neat!

>>54737192
>What's a good starting point range for 40k or could I put together a Shadow War force and just add onto it from there?
500 point range is a good start.
>How much will I get shit on playing Inquisition?
Not at all, I don't think I've seen anyone say they hate inquis on here, but postinv that statement of course means I'll get replies saying they hate them and always have

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>>54737002
The emperor wills it

>>54737192
Inquisition die in 3rd it is rather meh in 8th due to shitty rules and random nerfs
For Shadow war Storm Shields and Power mauls all day every day

Inquisition does not have troops now, Inquisitorial Storm Troopers are gone, you have to play pretend with Edge School troops and overpriced Acolytes.

Is there a recaster who sells the old games workshop moonscape terrain?

>>54737237
Same as Death Guard/Nurgle

>>54737238
I'm screenshotting this to laugh at you in a few months, lmao.

>>54737196

>Fighting alongside the Ultramarines was an experience I shall not soon forget. I think, towards the end, the sons of Macragge had almost begun to respect the tau fire caste. Some shared notion of honour, perhaps. All well and good for these warrior types, but not a luxury that an inquisitor can afford to entertain.

Boys in Blue with the boys who are Blue with the Alaitoc (Blue) Eldar when

>>54737209

Based off marines being poor pre-codex, the bad armies were probably balanced around having a codex soon. So codex Admech and crons this year probably, in line with the "leak"

>>54737209
But nigga.. both of your counter points for zerkers and daemonettes were wrong.

>>54737211
They already have it (and no they can't take legion traits). It still doesn't stop one charging unit from hitting them first.

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Not enough noise, Brothers

>>54737277
> All this effort.

>>54737284
They weren't though.

Genestealers charge berzerkers, genestealers hit first, berzerkers are deleted.

Genestealers charge daemonettes, quicksilver rule kicks in, alternating fights, Tyranid turn so Tyranids pick first, genestealers swing first, daemonettes are deleted.

>>54737167
Ah, I forgot to specify I was not including Primaris, since they're basically an entire new model line on their own, even though they're basically three more power armoured units before you get to the good stuff. Contemptor was Forge World.

I also missed Centurions, now I think about it.
I didn't include jump packs for the same reason I didn't include Secutarii - yes, they're distinct, but they're the same base kits with a couple extra parts, and in a lot cases they're just wargear options. If I could buy my Skitarii Dunestrider and represent that with different legs, that wouldn't be a different archetype, so Marines don't get another for different backpacks.
Bikes are debatable, since they're still Power Armour, but they are distinct enough now I look at it.

Still, 8 vs 11 unit archetypes is really not bad for an army based around dual kits and that has had two releases ever, and it quite obviously proves that Admech DO have considerable variety

>>54737301
All your assravaged posts are what make it all worth it<3

>>54737091
Got a pic? I've always wondered what they look like.

>>54737277
Sorry anon
Codex releases are
>SM
>GK
>CSM
>DG (Probably)
>SW
>DA
>BA
>TSon(Please)
>SM Pt. 2

They said they aim to release around 10

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I'm in the mood to paint some cool 40k models.

Suggest a fun model/squad to paint (don't care about the crunch, just aesthetics and shit).

>>54737338
That's not at all what the releases are, trust me.

>>54737156
Ten meganobz (25 ppm), each with a power klaw (25 points) and a kombi-weapon with skorcha (19 points)? That's 690 points.

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>>54736647
I think even index Bjorn Will super murder Abaddon.

>>54737166
The difference in quality between that and finecast is astounding.

>>54737156
Closest I think CWE can get is 520pts.

That said I think they might be able to compete with space marine with a 940pt unit of Warlocks on the <BIKER> keyword

>>54737331
>>54737349
Sadnpc.jpeg

>>54737024
I tried that last time, the gene stealers surrounded the rhino and none of the Zerkers could get out.

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>>54737347
DEPLOY THE RUSTSTALKERS!

Seriously, they look sexy as hell and are surprisingly simple to paint given their wide stances and lack of robes/obstructive gun, since you don't need to faff much with the arms and can just metal/wash them.

Just do the backpacks separately like normal and they're great fun.

>>54737211
Daemonettes already have it and it's more or less useless since anything that would actually benefit from ASF will be killed before getting to attack because it doesn't actually ever let you go first, only second.

>>54737347
Redemptor Dreadnought is quite fun to assemble and you can give a ton of poses very easily without having to use pins or magnets.

Custodes can be cool, you could do a squad with their armor all battered up with damage and rust, that would be really cool actually.

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>>54737170
The guy who made that song hung himself. I wonder how this guy felt about it.

>>54737347
Diggas

>>54737444

Is that a FW unit?

I've noticed that most players don't play with nearly enough terrain.

>>54737371
Oh wow i guess they win the prize for biker units... Now I'm curious if a supreme command detachment with 2x10 skyrunner warlocks would be any good. Will be fun no doubt.

>>54737397
It's a shame they are so shit compared to their pit droid cousins

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>>54737452
It's a Gorkamorka unit.

I want you to play Gorkamorka

>>54737238
They probably will. GWare going for 10 by the end of the year. They're sure to include the major factions in that.
Plus nids dont really need new minis so they can be another book only update.

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NOOOOOOOOO

We were winning! Why can't GW hold off giving Primaris more fucking piece of shit models so that 9 year old kids can't just dunk them in a bucket of paint and have it count as a painted model and victory point to the campaign!

Chaos is winning! Winning the tabletop, even without a codex! But the fucking painted models and purchases by literal 9 year old kids is tipping it away.

I bet the fucking Xenos are helping them too, those fucking assholes. I bet they think by making the Imperium win ANOTHER campaign, they'll be next. No they won't... those assholes will never get to be the main focus, they're just useless NCPs.

>>54737483
>wulfen
Fahck you.

Best loadout for Ultramarines Primaris Captain?

I'm thinking
Adept of the Codex
3++ iron halo relic for staying alive when snipers try to kill him and I can reroll failed saves with a strategem
Power sword
Assault bolt rifle (he needs to be able to move with his fellow Chads to keep handing out his buff)

Thoughts?

>>54737508
>them bookmarks
cheeky

>>54737516
No, they're DIGGANOBZ
and they have bigga nobs

>>54737483
Man, I hope the next Chapter Approved comes with a Blood Axes list and makes it work like Genestealer Cults except with Orks and the Imperial Guard can exchange their regiment bonus for Diggaz! That would be a cool army.

>>54737531
I'd have my own WAAAGH of Diggas.

They're not that terrible just because they're quite cheap now, but yeah, Sicarians in general need a buff, 3A at least. I'd also want Dunestrider charge bonus again, then they'd be just right.

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>>54737508
>no how to take a screenshot or are traps gay

>>54737508
Just so you know, Imperial-side space marines are 50% of 40k sales so by volume alone chaos loses hard. If anything, not being steamrolled is a result of Xenos tanking the tide of imperial players' points and giving you dicks a chance.

That said in my experience xenos are divided around 60/40 in favor of chaos.

>>54737156
GKs Paladins with priciest shit
~690 pts

>>54737491
>They're sure to include the major factions in that.
We are already at 4 marine flavours, if you treat every xenos faction and guard as the remaining main factions that is at 7.
No way we won't have another SM dex before 2018

>>54737545
Meant for >>54737480

Infiltrators also not amazing since they randomly nerfed them for no reason in the errata. Down to 2A when they were a good but not fantastic unit with 3.

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>>54737516
I understood that reference.
>>54737508
>those tabs

>>54737360
The difference in quality between a pile of shit and finecast is astounding. It's not saying much

Wait so pistols can shoot in a melee they're in during their turn OR they can shoot into a melee they aren't in?

>>54737349
I'm fairly confident that after Death Guard the only marine codexes this year are going to be Thousand Sons and maybe Blood Angels.

Space Wolves will be early next year to give another round of hype to the return of the primarchs. Probably with some primaris wulfen or something along with Russ.

Then we will probably get Emperor's Children with Chaos Primaris around the middle of next year and the Dark Angels, possibly pulling a face-heel turn or splitting the imperium into good imperium (most space marines, most astra militarum) and bad imperium (iron hands, DA, black templars, admech, ecclesiarchy, inquisition) or something.

Fairly sure that Astra Militarum are going to be soonish. Teaser video with the eagle-skull thing is probably them.

Ynarri will have a proper codex fairly soon.

I keep seeing rumours of orks soon. Likely just bullshit, but if so I don't expect a full release. Just a new Ghaz model (now with ten wounds!), removing a bunch of options they don't sell a model for and repackaging a few things (Grukk as 'ork warboss', for example).

Tyranids and Tau have never had to wait long for their books, so I expect something for at least one of them soon.

Finally, they called out Forge Worlds as an example of something that will get a 'chapter tactics' style treatment soon in one of their articles, so I wold expect Admech before christmas.

>>54737156
If we are talking about units cranked up to max size, a max (12) sized unit of Kataphron Destroyers, each with cognis flamer and heavy grav cannon, comes out to be 912 points

>>54737560
>>those tabs
Are bait

Wait wait wait a fucking second...

Okay there's a stratagem called relics of the chapter, 1-3 CP
You get to take an additional relic depending on how many cp you spend

Adept of the Codex let's you refund cp spent on a 5+

So I use the relics stratagem before the game
I use 3 cp
Do I get to roll 3 dice and they all get refunded if I roll a 5+ on each?!

Whatthefuck.jpeg

>>54737508
>mfw I play SoB
>since 8th was release not a single Chaosfag has won against my SoB
If anything Chaos need all the help they can get, since they are the most boring and easy to beat faction.

>>54737560
guhd!

>>54737584

FoC was postponed for 8th.
I am confident Codex Admech, T'au and FoC will all come out close to one another.

>>54737582
Slightly ambiguous wording in the rule and nothing in the FAQ, but I think the most straightforward reading of the text is that you can only shoot (the closest) enemy unit which is within 1" of a friendly unit if you are within 1" of an enemy unit (i.e. it will always be a unit you are 'locked' in close combat with).

>>54737606
That's a good question, throw it at GW's facebook.

>>54737630
Leaks have them come out together near October iirc.

>>54737582
>Wait so pistols can shoot in a melee they're in during their turn

Yes, if you are in melee and its the shooting phase you can fire your pistols at the unit that you're locked with.

>>54737666
I think those leaks may have already been disproven, but we'll find out pretty soon. After DG the next 1 or 2 to be announced will give it away.

>>54737508
Not sure if falseflag or legit butthurt chaosfag

>>54737714
It's bait you faggot. The tabs give it away.

>>54737606
Yes, that's exactly how it works. Adepts of the codex is fucking insane, combine it with a battalion and Guillman to ensure absolute rape.

>>54736646
Ave dominus nox.

>>54737479
Skyrunner Warlock squads are terrible. You'd think you're getting 10x casters since they cost 10x the price of a warlock on a bike but you're actually getting 3 casts so you're losing out on 7 casts of smite and that's the whole reason for taking warlocks since they're shit in combat and terrible at shooting.

The list would be super funny though.

Heard a friend brought 10x1 warlocks in a wave serpent (370-430+wave serpent). Was super irritating to shoot down since they're character squads of 1 with 2 wounds each and a 4++ but folded instantly to melee since their shooting and melee effectiveness is less than that of a marine with a boltgun and power sword, let alone terminators.

>>54737557
paladins are more than that pimped out
630 for 10
130 for 10 hammers
80 for 4 psycannons

>>54737630
FoC?? i am unfamiliar with what this stands for

>>54737767
Fires of Cyraxus, the new Imperial Armour book that gives AdMech in 40k all the 30k toys

>>54737767
Future of Contents where gw will do a preview of releases for the next year, as usual

>>54737557
>No way we won't have another SM dex before 2018
They pretty much said we won't in the preview article of the new vanilla marine codex. The other marine flavours use the index for a while longer.

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Hey, trying to figure out a good thematic vehicle list for Konor week 3, any criticisms on this?

So I'm slowly ecking out how I want my Word Bearers to look. I've decided I'm going to go for the default scheme with different colored helmets for aspiring champions after the White Dwarf image; Should I go for the gunmetal color, or black helmets?

Also going to use Horus Heresy style chapter markings and colchisian runes for adornments. Anyone got image examples of the latter?

>>54736565

Lurker here, what's this I hear about new codexes? I thought indexes were how army books are done now.

>>54737767
Force organisation chart.

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BEHOLD! Our Four Armed Lord has gifted us with the freshest, totally not old and busted, memes! Cower before our might!

I know it looks like shit, but I really just needed a quick cult icon for the squad. I actually thought of the color scheme a LOOONG time ago, for the few nids I have. It's based on Unit 01. The lighter tones I went with for cultist just ended up feeling a bit more daily dose.

>>54737756
Oh, I was just playing around with Battlescribe

>>54737790
>gives AdMech in 40k all the 30k toys
I doubt it will, GW probably won't let FW transplant 30k wholesale into 40k to avoid fucking their balancing.
Might port over some more mundane things and likely shoehorn chaos and and dark admech

>>54737799
Seems a bit WAACfag.

Not sure what Shrike is supposed to do when your army seems to be a gunline.

>>54737816
>I thought indexes were how army books are done now.
No, not at all. The indexes are stopgap measures. Codexes are for each faction, provide warlord traits, stratagems, relics, powers and rebalancing of units, as well as stuff like fluff and 'evy metal mini pics.

>>54737840
He's a chapter master isn't he?

rerolls for days

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Had my 3 way IG vs Nids vs Primaris match today. 800pts using the new multiplayer scenario.

A strange come mad suddenly veered off and impacted a backwater imperial planet in the middle of literally nowhere. Drawn by it strange energies, a Tyranid hive fleet splinter force of one Hive Tyrant, a Broodlord and his Brood, a Biovore with Termagaunt escort, and a Trigon Prime descended to the planet.

Meanwhile a Detatchment of Primaris marines on a secret inquisitional mission consisting of a unit of Hellblasters, two Intercessor squads, an apothecary, lieutenant and their chapter champion encased in a Redemptor Dreadnaught did the same.

Fortunately, or perhaps unfortunately, the Acadian 88th was already on planet as escort for a mechanicus digsite some hundred kilos easy of the impact site. After struggling to convince the Magos to let them recon before they tried to recover the glowy space rock, a force of three infantry squads, Company Commander Din, the Leman Russ' "Party Favor" and "Noise Maker" was dispatched with orbital Tempestus Scion reinforcements on standby.
Upon discovering the other two parties already poised to size the comet and siphon it's energies, the Acadian 88th did what they knew how to do best.....dig in.

>>54737822
>I doubt it will, GW probably won't let FW transplant 30k wholesale into 40k to avoid fucking their balancing.
Except that's wrong, FoC has explicitly been stated to bring in all the 30k stuff. It's the entire point of the book, and there's a snowball's chance in hell that dark mech will be in there, since it's ad mech vs. tau.

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Just finished up a hilarious Guard v Xenos match /tg/. I will not spoil it for you but it involved a lot of dong jokes and once again the French were offended. Did any of you anons play any games and how has FoK gone so far for all of you?
Robo-skeletons are too fucking good

>>54737822
That sounds like a great way to sell a book. "Hey, lets not give rules to all this cool stuff people actually want... Lets just put in some mundane things that no one will care about!"

Plus, after looking at the Imperial Armour books out right now, its clear Forgeworld gives zero shits about balance

>>54737840
Mostly give rerolls to the predators. Since we don't know the mission, I'm using the Razorbacks to drive tacticals to objectives if they exist.

Nearly every person at my shop builds WAACfag lists to an extent. One player brings as many razorbacks as he can fit into a list and a bunch of salamanders with lascannons. I don't like getting my ass beaten.

>>54737816
Indexes are just a transitional thing since the jump from 7th to 8th is so large that it invalidates the core rules, which didn't happen between 5th and 6th and so on.

They were always clear that Indexes were just a stop gap and were going to be replaced with full codexes, namely 10 in this year. So far we've got the Space Marines one and are getting the Chaos and Grey Knights one in a week. Also getting Death Guard one Soon. After that, we don't know the order of releases.

>>54737531
I'd love some matched play rules for aligning my Blood Axe with some IG. Would get me to buy some IG if it turned out they are getting new minis soon.

>>54737860
My Guard nigga.

I'm making a rock base for my eldar farseer out of napkins, water and glue. I hope it turns out alright, never done paper mache before. Also, what is a cheaper alternative to Cotadel paints? Are acrylics or oil based paints really that bad? Forgive me lads I'm just getting back into the hobby.

>>54737845

So if I were to buy an index I'd be wasting my time and money, and should just wait for the codex for my army to come out?

>>54737790
>SM get 30k stuff in 40k
>Chaos get 30k stuff in 40k
>Custodes get jack shit
that's some grade A bullshit desu

>>54737871
My shop tries to get in two games a week for the campaign, I won twice yesterday against renegade guardsmen (normal guardsmen list just playing for chaos because there's an uneven number at my shop), and lost twice on week 1 to Nids and Ynnari Eldar, the latter on turn 2 because they're broke as shit.

>>54737900
Creative but ultimately weak bait

>>54736717
Where's the sword on the far left guy from?

>>54737860
Looks fun. Any particular highlights?

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>>54737508
No u. I fought against stupid imperium and got the shit kicked out of me by a hoard of vindicators and centurions in the name of Chaos yesterday.

>>54737871
>>54737860
RGG /AND/ GGA batreps at the same time?!
Is it my birthday??!

>>54737606
Ultras best chapter once again?

>>54737904
Maybe if you don't want to have rules for your army for maybe a whole year

>>54737904
What army do you play?

>>54737866
>All
Doubt
But in any case, what FoC was originally slated to add to 7th, versus what it will add to 8th are likely quite different. In any case, won't know until (if) it releases.

>>54737930
>tfw my store doesnt do games like this anymore so I can't slap 20-30 marine tanks on the table at once
Feels bad man

>>54737904
Depends if you're ACTUALLY PLAYING right now. Most armies will be using index rules for quite a while.

>>54737941

They're pretty fucking good. Codex Space Marine is very nearly codex: Ultras. Only Salamanders really give them a run for their money IMO. But Ultras just get to spam so many fucking CP.

>>54737941
Ultras are cool because there's no specific unit you build around, it's all about the way the units support each other which is really satisfying when it pays off.

RULES QUESTION LADS

I charge my ork boys at a target, make it. all that jazz. Now I leave a spot only one man deep.

Can my warboss charge that spot and join the combat?

>>54737987
It might not be all, but it will definitely be most. They'll use the same Relic Unit rules as the stuff in the SM Forge World book and so on.

>>54737980

Guard. I haven't played the game for two and a half years at most. I've been way outta the loop.

>>54738011
Can he get within 1" of an enemy? If so, then yes.
Remember that 25mm bases are slightly less than 1", so you can fight across a model if they're in B2B with an enemy

>>54737987
>Doubt
Why? FW was going to to do it all for 7th, and with HH losing popularity, they'll have to port it all to 8th at somepoint, might as well get big bucks from 40k ad mech players as well.
>But in any case, what FoC was originally slated to add to 7th, versus what it will add to 8th are likely quite different
Why? Because balance issues? That's never ever stopped FW before

How would you guys do an abhuman regiment? Im thinking of making a 1000pt Vanguard Deatchment with Ogryns but not sure what else would be a good match for them.

>>54738011
If he can get close enough that his base is within 1" of an enemies base, yes.

>>54738011
If he ends within 1" of the enemy model sure why not

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>>54737930

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>>54737928
Sorry for phone posting and fucking up with autocorrect. I'm half asleep in the backseat right now.
Pretend I said it was a COMET THAT HAD SUDDENLY VEERED OFF

By having less PL, the Primaris got to go first. Not pictured is my second Russ that was positioned on the other side of a building from the Redemptor...which after DELETING an entire Guard squad in cover charged it and smashed it down to three wounds. Then his hellblasters dropped his Flyrant down to half wounds while it's owner looked super salty and his marines moved up to the objective.

Tyranid turn came and after much strategic misdirection between the Primaris dude and myself, we convinced him to emerge his Trygon Prime and ten Denim-Thieves behind the Bunker the Hellblasters and Apothecary was in.
The Flyrant charged too and there were no survivors.

My phase came and concentrated fire brought the Redemptor down to 3 wounds while the Scions bled his Broodlord down to 2 and burned off all but one of his escort Gaunts.

>>54737930
I'm also an Austin bro. I was there but just to watch and talk to Colin

>>54738011
If he can get within 1" of the enemy, he gets in on the fight. So if you left a spot for him, and he makes the distance, you're good. It counts as a separate charge, but the target unit is already engaged, and thus can't fire overwatch. Your warboss can proceed to slap bitches with his huge warboss dick.

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>>54737938
Apparently anon happy fucking birthday my dude. But let me tell you the story of my people. It was 4000 a side with 2000 per player. And forgive my fellow Guardboy one of the other dudes at the store gave him all of his old shit so all of it is shittly painted. Here is the deployment. I spammed Russes and Infantry my friend did Valks and Scions.

>>54738031
Actually anon
An inch is 2.54cm or 25.4mm, So 25mm base is within an inch

>>54738031
>>54738037
>>54738038
Good, I've been getting meme'd by all my opponents my last like 10 fugging games, people really don't want my warboss in combat lol.

Next time I have some fucker try and tell me he can't make it I'll point out the 1 inch thing

>>54737930
>3 manticores

My Hero

>>54738021
Gaurd are a fairly old codex, one of the most popular armies, and in major major major need of rebalancing. GW has also hinted at new gaurd stuff in the near future.
No, I'd not waste the cash buying the index, just download it from the OP and get the dex when it comes out. If I'm wrong and it takes years for them to update, you can screencap this and call me a fag on here, for one I shall be.

Now get downloading and affix bayonets Gaurdsman, there's a war going on and chaos to btfo on konor!

What regiment by the way?

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>>54738052
His Redemptor then realized he knocked on the wrong door and booked it back to his own deployment TO ONE SHOT THE FLYRANT ON THE CHARGE AND SURVIVE A FULL CHARGE FROM 10 GENESTEALERS AND A TRYGON.
Those things are scary as fuck.

>>54738069
Is that not what I said?

>>54738014

We also know that FW snowflake SMs will also have some degree of spotlight, wonder if they'll hog the stage

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Would you run Melee Death Guard or keep them as bolters?

I know this is t quits the right thread for it but there isn't one up in /vg/. How did DoW3 turn out? If it's good i thought about getting it next paycheck.

>>54738098
Stupid Lucina, only khornates are for melee.

>>54738096
Welp back to drinking, one more thing to feel shame

>>54737234
I would play with you! But it's monday and I doubt you're anywhere in the East Midlands so il just have to wish you luck.

I can't decided between deldar and chaos marines. Falling out of love with my daemons because they just keep getting gunned down each game and I don't know what to do with them.

How do I report my campaign games murdering xenos for Chaos?

>>54738095

Good, they're an A-10 on legs so I'm looking forward to the BRRRRRRT

>>54737930
>>54738056
>austin
Not suprised to see so much chaos stuff from the worst city in the state. Just hope you all aren't commiefornias refugees.

Either way, this is now a Texas thread. All texanons report in

>>54738095
One shotting Tyrants reminds me of good ol' 2nd days.

>>54738103
It was quite bad last time I checked.

Relic going in full damage control mode, putting off DLC to fix problems in the game.

>>54738097
Fluffwise, maybe, but who cares. Most AdMech players just want their toys.

Okay so when is the index useable and when is it not I have a tech marine on a bike so I can use the index right? What if I have a unit with weargear that's okay I'm the index but not in the codex then what?

>>54738036
Ratlings afe decent fire support.

You could run beastmen as regular guardsmen if you want some infantry and tonks. Just go light on fancy equipment like plasma or powerswords

>>54738113
Did you play it in a store?
If not, see if any of your FLGS bros will record it as if you'd played it there anyway

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>>54738068
>>54738095
That game looks fucking awesome anon. And one more of the deployment zone because Guard armor gets me rock 'ard.

>>54738113
You don't The store does assuming they're registered

>>54738133
You can use index profiles for wargear but need to use the newest points costs, so if any of their wargear is different in the codex you use those points.

>>54738088

Well shit.

>What regiment by the way?

I use the cadian models, but fluffed up my own regiment. Autistic I know, but when I was first hooked on plastic crack the games setting was just so good in the way it accommodated personalizing ones army.

>>54737156
Blood angels could get 15 Death company with jump packs at 20 each, and give each inferno pistol (20) and power fist (20) for 900 points

Can someone carefully explain to me why Chaos has Objective Secured?

That ability is for elite armies who need to get objectives one way or another. Except Chaos has one of the spammiest units in the game, namely cultists. For less than 100 points, you can have 20 objective secured enemies. Most Grey Knight armies have less than that in a 2000pts army.

>>54738135
>beastmen as anything but penal legion

>>54738162
Because everyone's getting obsec

>>54738162
God you're an idiot

Every army will get it, holy shit

>>54738157

It's not a bad thing to do anon, fluff your own regiment. It's fun and a nice part of the hobbying side of the game. It's a lot more fun than playing vanilla mcvanillas.

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>>54737138
that was the most unorky exchange ive ever heard

>>54738172
>>54738169
That's fucking stupid.

>>54738189
Welcome to warhammer

>>54738142
>>54738147

No luck, store isn't registered. I'll see if i can sneak something.

>>54738157
>Autistic I know
Not at all my man, assuming you didn't go full retard and make some special snowflake shit like the GK and bangles successor chapter. More creative than my main and first army. I just played DoW, said "this is cool, I want to be those big cool looking good guys" and been playing Blood Ravens ever since.
What's your regiment's fluff?
>but when I was first hooked on plastic crack the games setting was just so good in the way it accommodated personalizing ones army.
yep, if you aren't making up lore for your dudes you aren't getting the most out of the hobby.

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>>54737138

So advance and charge is better than always strikes first because most combats end in one round?

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>>54738095
Other highlights include my Melta Scion team tackling the remaining Gaunt on the marker and gaining me a point for the turn. Redemptor went down bringing the Trygon down to a single wound which a lone Intercessor hero-shotted off the board before jumping in the melee with my my Scions and the Gaunt, stabbing it and one of my Stormtroopers in the face heroic-like.

Then this happened. There were no survivors.

My two surviving infantry teams plus the unwounded Russ and my Volley Gun team (plasma team got nommed by Broodlord after both guns overheated on overwatch) shot everything else off the board. (With the Russ obliterating the Primaris Lt with a 13 damage battlecannons hit.) Nids were tabled and Primaris-bro conceeded with nothing left but a single 5 man team over 40in away from my gunlines.

>>54738123
What was bad though? To be honest I kind of liked DoW1 better and being able to deploy in mass rather than the squad based style of 2. Is it something like the mission layout ended up superfucked? Also I mostly played campaign rather than real people.

>>54738210
Generally speaking, yes

>>54738210
Yes, most definitely yes.

>>54738112
Daemons are (imo) unplayable without chaos marine support. You need a solid backline like Havoks or preds at the very least. Daemons are too squishy and don't really have an answer to knights or massed firepower this ed if you aren't spamming the fuck out of brimstones or running the 10DP meme list. You might be okay if you got the FW Greater Daemons but that's still not amazing.

>>54738056
Theres going to be another like it here in a couple weeks if you want to join in then.

>>54738121
Originally from El Paso

Don't be jealous that we have a robust tabletop scene and one of the best stores in the whole country

>>54736630
>LE sculpt so I can scalp on eBay

It's your life, but don't be too nousy about it. FLGS owners usually aren't too stoked to know that's all people are doing with their product. I got one of the LE void shield generators because the store owner knew I wouldn't do that.

>>54738121
Fort Worth reporting in, it's raining quite nicely out today. Clouds were all bark no bite for my area.

>>54738203
>What's your regiment's fluff?

The 9th Gratanodan mobile artillery. The wear Alpenflage as their camo and the Eldar(i) won't leave their planet alone. Mostly because the guy that introduced me to the game used to field wraith constructs and walk across the table. That fucker.

>>54738210
Absolutely. At least in a 1v1.

If a bunch of units charge all at once ASF becomes better.

>>54736977
>that feels guy

Fucking kek

>>54738253
Austin has a good store?

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>>54738146
And I shall make it quick because I want glorious RGA to be able to post his game. Turn one we moved up a little with all the Russes and some of the infantry. And as we got to the shooting phase we realized two things:holy shit Necron vehicles are invincible and that Tyranids will shit up your BS. We killed nothing and at most did some damage to all of the xenos shit.

>>54737138
He died as he lived.

He should say his warboss mini counts as a new warboss, and put a similar head on a cybork body Nob. Say he survived but got "d'moted" for his poor use of cunning (and losing 90% of his body).

>>54737926
A Warhammer Fantasy Chaos Knights kit. I've gotten some sweet conversions out of that kit plus running the Knights as Chaos Bikers.

>>54738210
Correct. Remember that if you don't annihilate the enemy unit and they don't want to be in melee they'll just walk out of combat and the rest of their army will fuck you.

>>54738217
DoW 3 is bad. Sure pathing and unit AI is better than in Soulstorm but fuck, the game just isn't half as fun. It's like they looked at starcraft and tried to mix it with DoW 2.

>>54736913
Damn, the AdMech aesthetic is rad. Xenos fag here, but I'd give those dudes a go.

Why can't the Imperium be more about these and less about SPESSH MEHREENS?

>>54738253
>Don't be jealous that we have a robust tabletop scene and one of the best stores in the whole country
>Jealous
I can almost garuntee DFW has bigger scene. And nicer people too.
>>54738261
Sounds nice. No rain over in dallas today, just the heat and humidity.

What is the most special snowflake space marine outfit? I want to feel special. But I want to have access to a lot of cool models.

>>54738163
They don't have rules anymore so appropriatly equipped infantry squads is the closest you'll get.

>>54736630
>>54736672
>>54736677
>>54737159
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>>54738255
This is making me feel bad.

Can I convert him into an Alpha Legion commander or something? I collect Death Guard for the moment.

>>54738310
Deathwatch, everyone's a commando and a veteran of a thousand xenocide campaigns. Cool bits and every marine can look different.

SO i just want to clarify something. Yesterday everyone was talking mad shit about these two exact Guardnanons right? Then today they both give us interesting OC content and batreps when nobody else does? With fully painted more than table quality armies? (poor lighting and picture quality notwithstanding)

Do I have this right? Is /40kg/ really full of ungrateful cunts?

>>54738278
>>54738306

Dragons Lair and two GWs, one in Austin proper and one in Round Rock

>>54736747

30k using Imperial Militia and Warp Cults rules. They're pretty neat, but job hard against Space Marine Legions. Kind of like what happened in the Unification Wars.

Honestly, porting those rules to something like renegades, heretics, and militias in 40k 8e would be amazing.

>>54737122
Not really. It's kinda funny that the DEFENDERS OF MAN are post-human abominations with about as much connection to a common human being as an Eldar, save for the two or three bro-tier chapters.

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>>54738189
>all units can hold objectives now
>troops are better at it
>THAT'S ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffucking STUPID

>>54738098
In CSM? Shooting. Those options are likely a lot more useful in DG.

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>>54738253
>robust

lol it was what? Corey, John, Johns father, Nathan, Thomas and like 6 other people versus me, Phillip, Adam, and the other two whose names I cant remember, Thousand sons guy and Phantom Titan guy. We have a majority Space Marine something or another in our store. We do have a lot of people who do other things but for the most part its some of these guys, me phillip and Adam's wife plus that dude that plays Tyrranids. It was fun playing against Admech for the first time though. We could really use a couple Orks or Tau players. Corey has Death Guard and Austin has his Deldar but he has been mopey since 8th released and I havent seen him play more than twice. At least Ryan wasnt there to pox the board with his unpainted Guiliman and his snooty attitude.

It was still an extremely fun game though, and since Collin let us bring in a bunch of reinforcements we were able to keep it going for another couple turns but it was disappointing to lose the overall victory because of the win condition of models bieng in our deployment zone only counting for 1 victory point as opposed to 1 per unit still alive.

>>54738334
Yes. The shitposters get mad when people post actual content and derail them from wanking about their awful bait. It's mostly chaosfucks.

>>54738112
Do Chaos so if you change your mind about your demons you can run them as a mixed force.

>>54738334
40kg is toxic as fuck

>>54737531
Blood Axes will just be a subfaction in the Ork book.

>>54738334
My game last night got cancelled, otherwise you'd get to see a few shitty pics of my GSC vs. some Marines.

But I don't talk much shit about guard or any other army. It's mostly just a few loud bitches who don't really have anything else to say.

>>54738358
>still just gushing tears down both cheeks after 72 hours
kek

>>54738339
>Dragons Lair
Any store that allows the cancer that is MTG players into it is not a "good store" :^)
texas toys is better.

>>54738357
The people who were there are not the entire austin 40k community.

You do realize that right?

Many of us have our own tables at home and only invite over select people.

>>54738334
It's just chaos shitposters.
They're faggots, we try and ignore them. We fail often

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>>54738379
>Stop liking things that I dont like.
Its an esoteric kind of shitpost, but a shitpost nontheless

>>54738385
>Select tables at home

Jesus.

We had thirty people at our 40k doubles tourney yesterday. It's in NY.

>>54737767
Fight of Characters its a WC3 map.

>>54738328
Alpha legion loves to dress up as imperials so yes.

>>54738397
I seriously hope you're not defending MTG players. Not the game, the players.
MTG "kill a fucker for his deck" players
MTG "stab you over an argument over the game" players

>>54738358
Finally someone who shares a view with me. Chaos players shit these threads up so often it's not even funny. They're so unhappy with their faction that they could get a literal reprint of the 3.5 dex with rules adapted to 8e and STILL find something to bitch about from it.

>>54738404
My friend group of 9 people built our own table and usually play at the house of the guy with the table. It's rare for us to play outside of the group even if we're playing at a store that day.

>>54738162
Because it gives troops purpose and encourages more diverse armies by adding another axis by which units can contribute.

>>54738385
I know, but I was just taking consideration of the people that frequent the store. I know others are around, but for the sake of my argument I refer to just the store common peeps. Also excluding the round rock store because Scott has managed to drag in the most varied playerbase ive seen in any 40k hub ive ever been to.

>>54737491
>GWare going for 10 by the end of the year. They're sure to include the major factions in that.
Exactly. Which is why we're getting Space Marines, Spiky Space Marines, Stinky Spiky Space Marines, More Elite Than Thou Space Marines, Angsty Angry Space Marines, Hairy Angry Space Marines, Magic Spiky Space Marines, Totally Not Spiky Space Marines, Angry AND Spiky Space Marines, and Gay Spiky Space Marines.

Should cover just about all the main factions there.

>>54738418
>MTG "kill a fucker for his deck" players
>MTG "stab you over an argument over the game" players
Something tells me this is not as widespread a problem as you're making it out to be.

Also it has nothing to fucking do with 40K.

>>54738419
>all this projection just because all your units are bad

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>>54738281
Holy shit 4chan is fucking with me today. But on their turn a trend started,the giant robot DONG cannon in the back opened fire and blew up a Valkyrie and then they murdered some very brave Ratlings who died in glory for the Emperor(not really that glorious).

>>54738419
>Rare to play outside of the group even if we're playing at the store

That seems unfriendly anon.

>>54738364
Ah, but then I can't decided on a legion/ex chapter.

>>54738434
I prefer the people in Round Rock, only one stinky guy and some legit coolguys.
Plus it's bigger.

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>>54738441
Well when a third of all products are Space Marines, it makes sense they'd be given priority for codexes.

>>54738419
To be honest, unless you masturbate to Iron Warriors Basilisks the current book is much better and more interesting than the 3.5 one. CTs, Relics, WL Traits, Stratagems, Powers. There's a lot of cool flavor in there. And of course DG and KSons are about to get their own goddamn codexes.

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>>54738281
Thanks for the thought GGA, but I finished. Always a pleasure to see you much much cooler tables at use. I just wish our local didn't have a giant plate glass window to make all my shots oversaturated and shitty looking.

Xth for Guard Holds the Line

>>54738480
Chaosfags jerk off to the 3.5 armory that had a LIMIT on how many points you could spend on gifts and weapons and shit.

>>54738480
He's just a salty retard, enjoy his crying

>>54738419
>STILL find something to bitch about from it.
Yep. It would be
>REEEEEEE NO DROP PODS, GRAV, LAND SPEEDERS, LAND RAIDER VARIANTS, STORM SHIELDS, THINDER HAMMERS OR PRIMARIS!!!! GIVE THEM TO ME NOW GW, NOW!!!!!!!1!
>WHY ISN'T ABBADON BETTER THAN THE PRIMARCHS
>I want all the 30k relic stuff, we're 10,000 year old veterans, we should have all that stuff, but still be able to field a ton of models
>[shitposting about how horrible interpretation of vauge codex lore means chaos has won, nobody else matters] intensifies
>laughing_cheetah1.jpg, laughing_cheetah2.jpg, laughing_cheetah3.jpg, laughing_cheetah4.jpg, etc, mods decide to ignore avatarfagging
>LOOK AT ME, I PLAY SLANNESH AND I LIKE TO DO THIS WEIRD SEX STUFF, GIVE ME (You)s
>general upset that someone else somewhere has gotten nice thing and chaos doesn't have them, because CSM should have all the things despite selling worse than all the loyaltist power armor except maybe DW and GK, IG, and quite few xenos races
Prove me wrong. This is exactly what the response would be

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>>54738463
Theres the guy in the wheelchair that painted the demo display. I got to play against him recently he is super cool. And the guy with pic related gorkanaut as well as the dude with the green and bright yellow nids. Those two and the guy with Praetorian Guard are my favorite people to play with up there. I dont like, whats his name, Matt? I think with the Eldar and all those dark reapers, he is just no fun to play against. And yes, the Round Rock store is collossal AND has a bathroom.

Fun fact, the Freebirds bathroom has Blood for the Blood God written on the little door thing in there they use as a divider.

>>54737357
Mathhammer off the top of my head, that's hitting on 2s rerolling 1s, wounding on 2s rerolling fails, on Abby's 4+ invuln (save gets to 6+ after AP), an average of 2 damage (Dd6 halving damage is a d3), five attacks. Comes out to 4.72 wounds per round, which isn't shabby at all.

>>54738472
Rolling GSC into the parent faction
Eldar is the largest xenos range and Tau the smallest neat

>>54738455
It's not really that we don't want to, we usually show up when they have their games going or we just do a one and done type thing. We sit there and shoot the shit for a few hours after our matches, let people talk to us while playing if they questions and stuff. I see how it can be taken that way, but we don't mean to come off as unfriendly. I've played a few times with other store-goers and I've had to teach them the game. I used to play in YGO tourneys so I know how pick-up games work, the rest of my friend group doesn't have that kind of experience playing with randoms at shops.

>>54738531
>tfw people mad about how good your army is have invented a whole fanfiction about how they wish you would behave

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>>54738450
But the superior firepower of the Guard nuked more Tyranids and Crons. The SWARMLORD COMSUMER OF THE IMPERIUM died to just a normal Russ and the Dimackreon (?) got shelled. The Croissant got baked and buttered by a bunch of Lasguns too so that was nice. But my ally had complete ass rolls from this point on so things started going down hill. Oh and a Cyrptek died of a heart attack or something.

Help please.

A Sister of Battle squad in the past contained a Simulacrum Imperialis.
In the new Index, the Sister carrying the Simulacrum Imperialis is listed as a HQ unit, but the ability can only be used one per turn.

Would it be best to bring a Canoness, a Hospitilar and a Imagifier (Simulacrum Imperialis) and put them inside a wedge formation of 15 Sisters of Battle
or
Bring a Canoness, a Hospitilar and a Imagifier (Simulacrum Imperialis) and put them behind a line of three 10xSisters squads?

>>54738472
Not even surprised by that chart honestly.

>>54738375
Getting legit subfactions for non-Eldar Xenos factions would be nice.

>>54738551
cool anon

>>54738537
Eldar being the largest is really to be expected, given that that includes DEldar in there. Also note that the difference between T'au and Necrons is one product, which is within my margin of error. But yeah, it's interesting to note that while T'au is talked about a lot, their range is nothing special as far as Xenos go.

>>54738577
For FUCK sake.
Never mind, their listed as Elite.
It's too late to be doing this.

>>54738531
Nailed it.

>>54738558
>fanfiction
>implying he's not literally just listing off all the usual chaos shitposting we see in the general threads almost every single day
It's not a coincidence that all the named and reviled shitposters like carnac, esdese, the night lords autist and so on are chaoscucks.