Warhammer 40,000 general /40kg/

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>>54686722
Perturabo knew he was always being watched by the Eye of Terror and the Chaos Gods. He always wanted the attention of his Father, yet all he got was the attention of the Eye. Why is this? Not only that, but why was the Eye so focused on him anyway?

2nd for beta male mannequins

Has anyone used a 10 man unit for chaos terminators with combi-plasmas and power axes? If so how well did they fare?

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>>54686743
Because he was a mad cunt

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>>54683864
Deployment is turning out to be a little bit of an issue.

Jk, just starting out with a small force (the rest of my terminators are still being painted). Any general tips on magmetising for the Baal predator? I can always look up a guide so I guess I'm just asking for tips someone wouldn't think about but are useful to know.

>>54686778
Do you shitposter faggots even play this game or do you just come shit these threads up with completely unrelated garbage because you have literally no friends and no life?

>>54686743
He thought the eye was watching him but he was basically just paranoid

>>54686809

The second-half of your post has answered your question already.

Has tg figured out the teaser yet? Or any more clues?

>>54686809
Don't respond you piece of fuck

>>54686826

We're at a complete dead end. Who do you think we are, /sci/?

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What did you guys work on today?

I put together the last odds and ends of my ork army. Some nobz, a painboy, some meks, and 2 more warbosses, bringing me to 15

>>54686722
You forgot the math hammer link

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ITT: Most ridiculous things people have said/questions asked about 40K lore that you've personally overheard (Bearing in mind their experience with the hobby).

I'll start.

>How do Necrons breed?
>Why can't they just exterminatus the Eye of Terror?
>Is the Emperor actually dead or not?
>Are Sisters of Battle Space Marines? (Followed up by, "But they wear power armor?")

And my personal favorite, that I've posted here before about a guy who'd been in the hobby shop with us for at least a year;

>What is the Horus Heresy?

>>54686826
No. We won't know for awhile. It could be almost anything.

>>54686722
>Senbonzakura Kageyoshi

>>54686743
>he looks like a toad
>Nurgle thought it was cute
Also reposts for the repost God

>>54686809
I'm getting into it soon, and my friends are asleep

>>54686822
How did it appear to him though? And why didn't he ever mention it to anyone?

>>54686826
Most of the internet kind of agrees that its either Titanicus or Imperial Guard.

>>54686867
Adeptus Arbites for Necromunda.

>>54686867
But senpai what about RENEGADES

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>>54686722
Looking to run several cataphractii squads, any recommendations for them aside from deep striking them in?

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Reminder that Konor was decided in advance

>>54686867
Most of the internet is full of retards, those are only two out of a dozen equally likely options.

>>54686862
Could've been a constant feeling of "magnetic north" for example
Would you tell people about your paranoid delusions if you had it together otherwise?

Any idea on how much an Exalted champion will cost points wise? My 2k list is 105 short and don't know how much he will take up.

>>54686893
How does that picture have anything to do with what you're saying

>>54686846
>We could negotiate with the Tyranids!

It should be illegal to pretend you're this retarded.

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If Exodites got their own Codex, how should they play?

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>>54686878
Would be cool but I dont see it, they have the least ammount of skulls in their iconography out of all the Imperial institutions.

>>54686893
>Imperial players make up 90% of playerbase
>Chaos makes up like 3% tops

you dont fucking say

Do the point costs for units include base wargear, or do you have to pay for say the boltguns in a standard TAC squad in 8th?

>>54686917
I'm not sure. How do Wood Elves play over in Fantasy?

>>54686846
People asking how 'retcons' in BL stories affect the lore when BL isn't canon.

>>54686931
So there are 7% of players who don't play at all?

>>54686893
Or it was so blatantly obvious who was going to win in a landslide after only day 1 that they could safely go ahead and call it. Kind of what happens when you pit 50%~ of the player base against less than 10%.

At least Imperium shouldn't be getting points for winning Imperium vs Imperium games like they did last week...

Tell me about agressors 130 pts seems like a steal

Flamers are cool

>>54686943

Xenos.

>>54686943
the 7% are xenos

>>54686917
Mix of WHFB Wood Elves and Lizardmen I guess?

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>>54686943
Nice

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>>54686843
Almost completed my long-understaffed officer corpse. Three commissars and three company commanders (who, naturally, are deployed as platoon commanders because one order per officer is bleh!)

Fun fact, I run my platoons with three infantry squads each, so the three dots on the helmets are very convenient.

>>54686948
They're just cheaper Assault Centurions with worse melee weapons, fewer weapon options, no option that allows them to do mortal wounds, and less wounds. And a worse armoursave.

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>>54686950
>>54686951
>when you don't know what the N in NPC stands for

>>54686936
Eh. BL is considered by GW to be a content-creator for their IP, alongside GW themselves and FW. As such, anything these three put out is considered "canon" until overridden by one of the other branches.

If there is a LEGITIMATE question of validity or a conflict of fluff (i.e. not "I don't like this"), it's better to go from newest to oldest, then to source from GW, then FW, and BL last for canon status if available.

However, anything the three of them create are all canon works.

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>>54686843
Working on my Swarmlord. Hoping to complete the swords tonight.

>>54686994
>post yfw the Orks outlast all the other threats to humanity to become the final boss species

>>54687021
Not when really daemons are the last threat.

>>54686931
Honestly, why would anyone play chaos? Chaos SM look like shit and Deamons are boring as fuck.

Is the Deimos Vindicator Laser Destroyer good in 7th and 8th edition?

>>54687016
Looks dedd killy that one

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>>54687021
>MFW

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>>54687030

>>54686950
>>54686951

>Only 7 percent xenos
Naaaaah

>>54687030
You can't play Cowboys and Indians without someone being the Indian, anon.

>>54686969
Show me where the reptilians touched you anon

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>>54687027
that's the point

>>54686915
Just point them to Zoats.

>>54687037
Have yet to play a game of 8th with my Tyranids, but will hope to after I finish him up.

>>54687030
Because Alpha Legion is still on chaos' apparent side

>>54687030
GW is very slowly overhauling the CSM range right now, and its about fucking time

>>54686945
Like you think they shouldn't or it's a new caveat added?

Talos or Cronos, which should I build? I already have a Talos.

If you could have one loyalist Primarch return as a traitor and one traitor Primarch somehow become redeemed, who would you pick and why?

>>54687046
If I had to make a realistic guess, id say its about

>50% imperium
>35% xenos
>15% chaos

>>54687030
Daemons were fun last edition since they had more lolsorandum tables and chancy bullshit desu

>>54687079
>Guilliman falls
>Horus rises

>>54687079
Sanguinius and Horus, respectively.

>>54687079
Alpharius and Lion, which one is the loyal and which is the traitor is up to you

>>54687083
Can we get a % breakdown of boxes that GW sells by faction?

>>54687090
What would you think should be in the daemon codex to make them random and all that again?

>>54687079
>Alpharius
>Alpharius

Easy

>>54687079
le lion draidor and le alpharius loyal :DD

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>>54687021
>mfw

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>>54687021
>final boss race are the space cockneys

>>54687064
no proof

>>54687079

>redemption in anything but death for traitors

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>>54686917
>how should they play?
They will force you to buy lot of their chinkcast forest terrain

>>54686826
The official seal of the lascannon wielding, toothy torso'd primaris/sigmarine unit Coming Soon

>>54687079
>Russ returns as giant chaos-aligned skinwolf
>Magnus is won back over to the Imperium

Wildcard: Ferrus Manus returns as a giant headless horseman/Ghostrider Legion of the Damned guy

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>>54687109

>>54687124
What are the Thousand Son/ Deathguard releases?

>>54687073
Last week they specified how to play Imperium vs Imperium games in the mission rules. This week they did so for Chaos vs Chaos. I doubt that changes anything relating to scoring though so it can be as inclusive to as many players as possible.

For example, my local GW store has about 30 people signed up to play last I saw and only 3 were chaos, so I don't know how it would even function if you weren't allowed to count Imperium vs Imperium.

>>54687083
Sounds plausible
Imp lead but xenos popular
Probably goes eldar>ork>>rest

>>54687104
GW doesnt tell

>>54687079
Russ returns as a sub-human mutated Wulfen, like a giant Spawn but wolfy, less becoming a traitor and more captured and unleashed by Chaos as he has lost his sanity.

Curze 'returns' as a member of the Legion of the Damned and perhaps Chaos could a demon prince that calls himself the Night Haunter.

>>54687064
I'm still amazed they didn't put out a new Abbadon model during that Kharne/Black Legion mini release late last year or during the Gathering Storm trilogy. His model is old enough to legally drink...

>>54687016
I like how you're spicing things up with the Tony Chachere's there

>>54686809
I don't know if you've noticed, but these threads spend more time arguing about worthless lore skub than actually talking about the game. Some people who post here don't play at all. It's maddening. The lore isn't even good enough to be worth obsessing about.

>>54687107
My gripe with demons is that if I wanted to play them, Id rather play Fantasy or AoS. Why would I play in a cool futuristic setting with awesome guns and armor when most of my army wears nothing and attacks their opponents with Swords, Crab Claws, Bad Smell and colorfull insults?

>>54687165
>GW doesn't tell
Not box sales, just the number of unique boxes they sell.

>>54687095
>>54687102
Abaddon's reaction would be priceless

But it could be a super touching moment between Horus and Sang though

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Asking again this thread because I can't be the only person with a claw.

Is this actually worth 200pts? I've not had much luck with it, but I've only. Used her in 2 games of 8th. Both games it died immediately because it can't jink and doesn't actually fly anymore (after I went through the hassle of getting it up on a flight stand no less). I used to drop my Brute/Contemptor out of it in 7th, but now idk.

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So how are the deathwing in this edition since terminators got updated?

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>>54686826
Rumour Engine: July 26th 2017 guys.

New Guard models perhaps to go along with the Codex.

>>54687192
So you can play both AoS and 40k without paying for two armies? For a while there daemons were a viable alternative in 40k if you wanted to play as Chaos without having an army that sucks balls.

This is, of course, no longer the case.

>>54687048
In case of CSM its more like Cowboys vs shitty looking Cowboy manlets with spikes.

>>54687145
Even if you don't like Alpharius, his armor is way too cool to hate

>>54687208
Don't get too excited. New guard models yes, but most likely, they'll have their own seperate rules ala Primaris marines, because they want people to still be able to use Cadians.

Is a Cronos ever worth taking over a Talos?

>>54687213
My point is someone has to play the villain.

>>54687208
>In before this is actually related to a new chad marine release

>>54687207
Standard dudes are ok, Knights are god tier and easily the best termies in the game.

>>54687232
That's even more exciting.

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>>54687215
How can it be cool if it doesnt have any Aquilas? Checkmate heretics!.

What would be the best loadout for 10 man guard squads? Granade Launcher or Flame Thrower?

Or should I just go for conscript blobs?

>>54687208

By the Emperor please new guard models. Cadians were amazing when they dropped but I'm ready for something new.

>>54687153
Roll off for who's who? Or more complicated everyone signs up at the beginning. Then they say we have x amount of chaos slots and x amount imperium depending on how many people signed up. That way there is definite competition on a store level as opposed to a homogeneous back patting session for either faction just milling themselves for scoring.

>>54687242
Better than Scarab Occults? Neat. What do they do and how much do they cost?

>>54687242
Excellent.
Time to field thirty of them.

>>54687256
I'm going to give you the same advice I gave to Tzeentch Daemon players who were considering buying 50-100 Blue/Brimstone Horrors after Wrath of Magnus in 7th edition. Wait and see before you get fucked over. Conscript blob is a heavy financial investment for something that is absolutely going to be nerfed hard in the near future.

>>54687262
They're 250pts for a 5 man squad. You get 4 dudes with thunderhammers without the hit modifier but with 1 less AP and you get the Knightmaster who has a S+2 AP-3 D2 flail that has damage spillover like mortal wounds. And all of them have storm shields.
>>54687268
T-technically speaking the lore says that only 3 Knight squads exist in the Deathwing. And they have no firepower at all so you'll get shot off the table. You need some standard guys to lay shots while you DS behind enemy lines.

>>54687136
Oh dear lord that'd be cool. Too bad Damned Legionaries are so hard to paint and don't get any rules outside the index.

>>54687208
>that feeling when I just bought 200 models 3rd party infantry

Can stop releasing imperium shit for half a year?

>>54687107
Some better adaptation of the old morale rules where you could get back to full strength or die entirely on assault
More warp storm table style rules to do random nonsense, at least
Stressing the god numbers more without making it into "buy tons of models for advantage" (like the 9 tzeentch one from last edition for example)

I do like the changes to summoning but it might be nice to get a discount on models if you run a mono-god list or something

>>54687262
Scarab Occult are purely a shooty unit without really good melee weapon options.

>>54687256
>Or should I just go for conscript blobs?
Yes, if you want to be like the local WAACfag who cried and threw a tantrum when GW nerfed Stormravens 3 days after he bought three of them.

>>54687256
Aren't plasma guns retarded cheap for guard?

>>54687297
>tfw IG infantry is about to get nerfed
Ahahahahahah

>>54687308
Delicious

Magnetized agressors seem easy except for the backpack bits gonna try it out this weekend

>>54687310
At the moment, yes.

>>54687308
>>54687289
I actually don't like the whole conscript idea thb. I'd rather field lots and lots of regular dudes.

>>54687232
What is this? Fucking Marines? We don't need the new models to have rules: We'll take them as standard BS3WS3W1T3S3 infantry just like some of us take Armageddon or Catachan or Elysian sculpts

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>>54687308
Anon when shit like that happens videos have to be made.

>>54687234
It can be worth it if you run them both close together.
So you get all the attacks from the talos, with the re-rolls from the cronos, and potentially heal up the talos.

>>54687325
Eh, I like having a lots of dudes and would have bought that many anyways. I am just worried that they get new weapons, seeing that that would completely fuck my conversion plans over.

>>54687325
If they buff the tanks in return I'll take it! Don't need much, just make those random-ass D6/D3 'blasts' to 2D6/1 or 2D3/D3.

>>54687232
New guard units that are still heroic-ish but slightly more realistic scaled so they're nearly a head taller than manlet marines.

>>54687291
Eh, I'll do it anyways, if ten of them could remove neuter a boyz mob then thirty of them can neuter an army.

>>54687368
I was thinking that might be the case. Thanks!

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I now have a desire for a Gorka Morka style game mixed with Ace Combat. All Orks. All Jets.

>>54687345
>>54687289
The real problem is cascading points values. If they make conscripts 4 points then practically the entire book needs rebalancing. If they do something like "Conscripts can't take orders" or "Commissars can only limit conscript casualties to 1d3" then that's fine. Or just bring back platoons. I liked platoons!

>>54687400
Damn, that sounds... so majestic

>>54687400
That sounds badass. An orkified Marauder covered in stormboys facing off against 2-3 killcopters and a Chinork filled with more stormboys!

>>54687403
>f they make conscripts 4 points then practically the entire book needs rebalancing

Why exactly ?

Conshits not being able to recieve orders means fuck all, you take them as meat shields and for zone control anyway.

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>>54687377
>guard and marines are too similar in height
>make new marines that are taller
>guard look like rubbish next to new marines
>make new guard that are taller
>guard and marines are too similar in height

12 months from now we'll have Primero Primarus Marines.

>>54687400

I mean, Deff Skwadron is probably one of the best 40K comics ever printed. I'd play the shit out of that game if it was 1/100th as good setting wise as the comic.

How assblasted do people get if you take models from one regiment/chapter and use them for another?

I bought a bunch of Dark Angel minis because I dig the robes but I wanted to make my dudes Imperial Fist successors and not Dark Angels, is someone gonna sperg out on me.

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>>54687428
>tfw GW

>>54687427
If more armies start getting ObSec equivalents like marines and chaos, conscripts will be less able to hold objectives.

>>54687428
Only a matter of time before it looks like we're playing with G I Joe dolls (or whatever they are called)

>>54687445
Nope! Just paint those bitches yellow and mumble dorn under your breath a lot.

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>>54687400
Not quite Gorkamorka, but there was an Ork jet game.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4646/bommerz-over-da-sulphur-river

>>54687381
Their playstyle revolves entirely around a turn 1 deep strike charge. Not only is that incredibly difficult it's also really risky. They can weather the shots (and of course if you take an Apothecary their survivability is greatly improved) but you really want to get into combat ASAP in order to keep them alive. Which is why I wouldn't really recommend a full army of them.

>>54687450
daemons had that corruption thing before so that's plausible

>>54687445
Trim off as much iconography as you can, paint them not!green, and use C:SM. You'll be fine.

>>54687422
>>54687444

Looted Tau Manta (props & jets) covered with Storm Boyz who launch themselves off the Manta against a skwadron of fightaz.

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>>54687452
THEY ARE POSEABLE ACTION FIGURES REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54687450
They still need to be able to get within 3'' of the objective. Which is hard to do when there are 50 conscripts standing around it in a dense crowd with a diameter of 20''

>>54687196
In that case you can just look on their site to see

>>54687297

Of course, more tau soon
Followed by year of the ultramarine

>>54687479
>Guardlet swarms holding shit.

>>54686969
I see what you did there. /pol/ disapproves.

>>54687427
You can't charge them 12+2d6 inches per turn, which means that the army looses a lot of board control, leaving them open to 36+" weapons slaughter. No more 120-240 shots per turn, no more 6+d6 shoot-and-scoot. NO MORE GET BACK INTO THE FIGHT!

As for the 4 points thing:

Conscripts cost 3 points
Regular guardsmen 4 points
Special Weapons troopers 4 points

So If Conscripts increase to 4,
Troopers become 5
So special weapons cost 5,
which means command squads at 6 become both cheaper and more accurate and thus better and need to be increased...

So it's kind of has this domino effect.

Anyone else hate how charging is a random distance? I wish it was movement +d6 to make a charge.

>>54686948
Their gimmick is a shit ton of S4 shots. GW couldn't make a blander unit if they tried.

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POST YOUR STORE RESULTS FGGTS

Ours ended in a tie because I couldn't convince my fellow Xeno players to not be fags and to fight for Chaos

Final results of our store were Chaos -2, Imperium -2 lel

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>>54686843
Got these base coated before work. Unfortunately, I've been working OT, so I probably won't be home for a few more hours. I want them done by Saturday, but it's not looking too good.

>>54686722
Is this supposed to be space marine Deadpool?

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>>54687555
here's my store btw

Where are orks in the rumored codex release schedule?

>>54687536
This guy gets it. Conscripts by their very nature should not be able to benefit from orders or commissars.

They're literally ordinary citizens pressed into service, they dont know how to fire in ranks no matter how loudly you yell it at them.

>>54687492
Suprisingly easy when you bring 150 infantry to a 1500 point game. You force the enemy to target the conscripts charging you, and they kill about 60 in turn 1. By turn 2 you're 2nd line is in range to start lobbing plasma and whatnot at the enemy or the conscripts have tied half the enemy army in combat, depending on what they prioritized.

Sitting back in a gunline is a bad idea as it lets the enemy pick apart the line at their leisure from range.

What things are and aren't worth equipping on a scarab occult squad?

>>54687568
Are you supposed to be retarded?

>>54687545
Idk, they seem like good crowd clear to me. 21-36 Bolter shots and that ability to advance if need be and the T5 with W2 on a non-bike is really strong versus anything short of AT, which is something you shouldn't be throwing them at.

>>54687079
Loyalist-to-Traitor: Either Leman Russ or Lion. The former because he seems the most likely to based on how long he's been in the Warp and general renegade attitude, the latter partly because he's suspicious as fuck, even with Horus Heresy tearing away some of the mystery, and partly so I can hold it over Dark Angels fags.

As for Traitor-to-Loyalist, probably Curze, if he were to somehow return to life. I'd rather he stay dead, because his death was pretty fitting for his character, but I also think it would be a little interesting to see him try to correct his mistakes, but in sort of a hidden manner. Like what he did for most of his time on Nostramo, mostly become a legend that is very real to the followers of Chaos.

>>54687573
Nowhere I imagine, GW will shelve us as usual to wait, then again we were the first dex in 7e and that was the worst one we EVER had.

But with how solid World Eater stuff is it looks like GW will give us some love, I'm hoping for a new unit or two, maybe we'll finally get Roks in some capacity

>>54687579
It's all good

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>>54686826

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>>54687555
We really hate blueberries

>>54687603
Alright, thanks anon. I was worried giving my squad the things that would make them seem cooler to me would have hurt their ability in tabletop.

>>54687611
F I R E S O F C Y R A X U S

>>54687611
> Forgeworld
Fuck.

>>54686982
It's company commanders that give two orders, platoon commanders give only one.
If you dislike the one order per turn then go Company commander.

>>54687620

>Hate blueberries
>Tons of Xenos
Do you mean hate smurfs?

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>>54687591
They're fine on the table, but they're fucking boring. You run them mid field and just sit there and chug away with a ton of dice. Fun.

>>54687621
I mean, all they have a weapon options, and those weapo s have good stats. You don't even have to worry about the move and shoot penalty for heavy weapons, or wasting shots on the wrong enemy. It's a solid unit all round.

Looking for input on my 2k CSM list. Really want to try out the new rules for rapier destroyers but the point cost is pretty brutal.

2k CSM list, total command points = 2

Vanguard Detachment

sorcerer in terminator armor - force axe combi-bolter (160)

terminators(5) - combi-melta(5), power axe(5) icon of wrath (285)
terminators(5) - combi-melta(5), power axe(5)
(275)
contemptor dreadnought - 2 hellforged deathclaws (196)
bikers(3) - chainsword(3), melta(2), combi-bolter(3) (133)

Spearhead Detachment

Chaos lord in terminator armor - power axe combi bolter (129)

forgefiend - 2 hades autocannons (185)
rapier battery(3) - laser destroyer (318)
rapier battery(3) - laser destroyer (318)

total: 1999

>>54687178
/thread
no, seriously. /thread

>>54687620
As a Chaos player it amuses me to no end to see our entire faction existing as a threat solely because the Xenos beat the loyalists up for us.

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>>54687308

>>54687232
PRIMARIS GUARD WHEN?

>>54687671
>Guardaris if you will

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>>54687074
M A G N E T S
A
G
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E
T
S

>>54687668
Imagine if it was Damocles Crusade 2.0: Electric Boogaloo, now with Primaris Marines and Guilliman.

Sure everyone would be clambering for their Imperial wins so they can finally do damage to the Tau, but then the tau, chaos, and other xenos fight back.

>>54687661
Let me know how the forgefiend works out for you. I fucking hate base BS4+ with only heavy weapons on a platform with relatively low range. At least you didn't take the Ectoplasma/Suicide cannons. You might be better served with a Predator.

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>>54687671
Behold!

I really want Primaris Techmarines and gunners for Thunderfires and Rapiers.

Or give me a Macro Plasma on a tracked carrier or something.

>>54687368
Are spirit vortexes worth getting?

Wait, with the aura system does that mean characters not join units anymore or something?

Does that mean if I have a chaplain hanging by some marines and I have them charge some unit, it is possible for the marines to make it and my chaplain to not make it?

>>54687671
Chadachans?

>>54687708
Chaos here. I fucking hate the Smurfs but I'd sign on in a heartbeat to help Gullyman tear the Tau a new asshole.

>>54687736
Space Marines.

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>>54687671
>Primaris Sisters Never Ever
Why even live?

>>54687748
>Plastic Sisters Never Ever
>Why even live?
FTFY

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>>54687620
My local the previous week

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>>54687748
>Implying Sisters aren't perfect just the way they are
You disgust me

>>54687232
If they were new guard it wouldn't stop people using cadians though

>>54687735
Yes

>tfw you're a Night Lords fan and you see the Legion Focus

>>54687748
THICC sister watches in amazement at her EXTRA THICC sister.

>>54687775

Huh. Well, that takes getting used too

Thanks

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>>54687647

"What are space marines?"

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>>54687748
>EXTRA THICC

>>54687789
>Night Lords
>LaughingCommissars.png

>>54687738
See, and that would be a campaign everyone would get behind. But pitting Chaos vs the Imperium, while an age old tradition, doesn't work well in the masses.

>>54687668

Makes me go, who is the NPC now punk

>>54687768
goddamn thats a lot of games, wish i lived wherever you do

>>54687794
It's not so bad. You aren't restricted to putting one unit in a transport so you can stick your chars in transports with your dudes and most characters cant be shot unless they're the nearest visible model. The exceptions to the shooting thing are overwatch, snipers,and imperial assassins.

>>54687812
You can't make it fair is the problem. You either give Chaos a massive handicap or you do what they are currently doing, which gives the Imperium an overwhelming advantage due to population differences.

>>54687708
That's a good point. I'm torn. I hate the Imperium, but the only person I know who plays Tau is a smug piece of shit. (Oddly enough he hasn't played Tau since 8th came out. Guess his skills didn't translate to the new system.)

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>>54687555
Too lazy to crop screenshots.

2 stores near me.
>GW store was 6 Chaos, 13 Chaos Xenos, 0 Imperium.
>Local Game Store was 18 Chaos, 6 Chaos Xenos, 6 Imperium.

I guess I'm in Xenos/Chaos country.

>>54687770
You make a good point, but I think the Sisters could be, you know... MORE perfect.

>>54687232
Well, who'd want to when you could be using glorious new 32mm based Primaris Militarum?

>>54687844
It basically comes down to the fact that so many people play Imperium that "Chaos" is just every other faction.

>>54687718
Don't own a predator yet. Might pick one up since they seem to be actually worth having this edition. Personally just love the model so I want to make it work, hoping it will be good enough at anti horde.

>>54687865
The sorcerer can help it out a lot by casting Prescience on it, but I assume he'll be hanging out with your terminators instead.

>>54687865

Wait, so if that pin is related to FW, does it mean FW is releasing something big soon?

So the "B50-AP/78903//M/h" thing, reddit seem to think it's Adeptus Arbites because of both eagles being blind and it might be something to do with the lasgun picture from rumor engine.
Thoughts?

>>54687849
I mean they need new models but I like my warrior nuns normal sized and not amazons

>>54687865
I'd recommend havoks over predators, they're cheaper, can hide in cover, and can all take autocannons if you aren't dedicated to taking lascannons.

>>54687885
It's something from Forgeworld. See >>54687611

>>54687885
Special character Fischig please GW

>>54687883

Didn't mean to quote

>>54687900

What's coming from FW that is major?

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Teaching a younger sibling (12) how to into warhammer, does this look good as a basic /friendly/ game to help learn the ropes?

50PL:

Side 1: (Admech, me)
>dominus
>3 vanguard squads
>5 electro-priests, though maybe another vanguard instead idk.
>Infiltrator squad
>kastellans and their tardwrangler
>Onager dudecrawler

vs Side 2: space marines
>jump pack chaplain
>5 vanguard vets
>10 intercessors
>devestator squad
>razorback
>venerable dread
>3 bikes

Y/N? Too big, too small? I've gone over the rulebook with them and they got it ok, I kinda wanna ease into it but also teach tactics n stuff. Would 25 PL maybe be better? Hell, would identical lists fighting be a good idea?

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newfag here

Getting in with Black Templars, I have purchased:

Tac Marine Squad
Venerable Dreadnaught
BT conversion kit
Emperor's Chosen
Helbrecht

How am I doing so far, and what should I get next? Also, where do I find good paint schemes? I'm not really sure which colors to buy, as I am a retarded monkey when it comes to painting and whatnot.

>>54687940
Can't go wrong with a librarian

>>54687926
Fires of Cyraxus

>>54687949
>BT
>Librarian

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>>54687949

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>>54687940
Return thatt dread and get an ironclad dread, Tankred endures

>>54687940
How do you wanna run your marines, as crusaders or regular marines?

If crusaders, you're going to need a lot more chain swords.

>>54687949

Don't listen to this faggot, BT can't take librarians

>>54687939

>bringing kastellans against shooty marines as a newcomer

why

>>54687965
Tankred is just a generic dread with an assault cannon.

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Does anyone have any of these? How do they stack up size wise against models like celestine? And how is the guy to order from?

>>54687963
Fuck I lost

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>>54687977

>>54687972
Fiststellans, and cause they've always been pretty manageable in my experience.

I put TH/SS on the vanguard and with the chaplain (plus the 4 rocket launchers) I think it'll be okay. I'm happy with the balance, do you think I should change it?

Doing some Kataphrons and another Infiltrator squad is fine with me. Should I do that? Should I adjust Marines too? I don't play them often

>>54687960
>>54687963
>>54687972
Lookat these chumps with their old fluff where Templar didn't embrace the glory of Primaris Librarians.

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>>54687968
Crusaders. Sword brethren all up in this bitch. I was imagining battle brothers wading in with power swords, with pic related reinforcing the flanks with storm bolters. I imagine that's not optimal, but I dig them both.

>>54687965
Damnation Crusade is what got me into BT, so trust me, I really almost did. I probably will build him at some point.

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>>54688010

>>54686826
Arbites for Shadow War:Necromunda.

>>54688010
Y u steal my picture m8

>>54687949
Oh, you.

>>54686931
Fuck.
I just realized - they're going to use the results of this tourney to justify continuing to say 'Chaos needs more love' for the next ten years.
This won't result in anything like new units for Chaos or something logical like that; no it just means that every war we talk about from now on is going to involve Chaos vs Imperium, and nothing else.
Great.

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>>54688021
I wonder what Tankred thinks of the Codex Astartes

>>54688029
I saw you post it in the last thread and went looking for the source. Nice to find some Sororitas that are neither garbage nor puerile fantasies.

>>54686917
Jesus, how many kinds of Eldar are there?
And do the various alternate types actually get talked about in the Craftworld or Dark codexes? Trying to find a good starting point for Eldar lore.

>>54688056
>implying this isn't the company plan for this whole edition anyway

They all but called xenos the npc factions earlier

>>54688061
It looks like the guy is working on heavy weapons for them too if my Russian translator is working alright.

>>54687208
Such a shitty looking design. Are you supposed to grab it by the barrel?

If it's a pistol then it looks shitty too.

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>>54687798
All of the old marines can be used in a variety of ways. All of them.

>Scouts can snipe, hold midfield with bolters, or rush you with shotguns or knives.
>Devs can take 6 different weapons all which serve different roles and need to be used differently
>Assault marines can be run anti-tank with eviscerators, or anti-infantry with flamers.
>Tacs are fairly bland, but can take a heavy and special weapon so they can specialize a little bit
>Bikes can take 2 specials + a combi
>Dreads can be kitted for literally anything
>All of these can ride in a half dozen transports, all which change the way they're utilized significantly
>All of these transports can be kitted out in a multitude of ways which change their tactics as well

The problem with nuMarines is that they're basically sigmar models. There's no upgrades, no kitting them out for different jobs, they just get their thing and they do it. Any upgrades they DO have are totally superfluous. Like with hellblasters having 3 flavors of plasma. Aggressors getting 3 flavors of boltgun. Or Intercessor's one special weapon's only use is to remind us grenades are in the game.

That and the only truck they can ride in is a Land Raider with a different plastic kit. Fuck the loadout the revealed the repulsor with is literally a land raider. 4 LC shots and 6 HB shots.

There's no strategy, there's no list building. The new models have a job and they do it. There's no kitting them out in certain ways to make novel combinations.

Sure Marines are a bit boring, they're the default army. Jacks of all trades masters of none. But if Marines are bran cereal, Primaris are a nutrient drip which skips your mouth all together.

>>54687178
Arguing that lore fags are worst then waac fags. Really. You play this unbalanced piece of shit game for its mechanics? Really? I don't even have an image for this.

This game is beer and pretzels, played with your mates in a garage. Arguing about lore has more merit than arguing about lists and rules of a game poorly designed to make you buy more models.

Stop taking the game seriously you seppo.

>>54687949
Great suggestion
May I suggest the new and improved Primaris Adeptus Astartes Psyker? Available now at your nearest Games Workshop outlet!

>>54687953
#IWantToBeLeaf
Seriously, FoC never. What would that pin even have to do with a admech world?

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>>54688082
>Sisters with heavy flamers

Should go good with the Celestine and Geminae I ordered

>>54687940
Aw so cute.

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>>54687021
YFW a hugh waaagh meets a hive splinter and the tyrannids turn into some kind of unkillable super xenos with instant regenerative powers.

>>54688000

I just wouldn't bring wacky stuff like reflecting mortal wounds on invul saves on the first game since it really is a unique ability for a model.

First match I usually do grab bag variety units as the opposing force, you got your wimpy infantry, you got your melee infantry, and your got your pseudo tank in the form of the onager

I'd sub some kataphrons for the kastellans if you have them

The Space Marine force is good for variety though.

I was thinking of making a Poop emoji Demon Prince for my Death Guard with yellow Nurglings. any tips or examples to help me in this endeavor?

>>54687940
You can pretty easily convert some Primaris into BT if, you know, you're into that sort of thing.

am i a mad man for wanting a kill team Cassius all wearing helmets?

>>54688112
>YFW
Please stay on reddit

>>54688075
Makes me laugh when people call the noble Aeldari NPCs. They keep getting new factions and delightful codex creep regularly

>>54687571

fukken xenos

>>54688095
Well said, Anon.

>>54687208
I have like 100 fully well painted Cadians, I'm going to fucking cry and then go talk to chinaman.

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Was at Cirqe du Soleil, so I didn't see the advice on the list I posted last thread. Should I swap the ravager for scourges? I wouldn't mind swapping the reavers for them, but then I'd lose my T5 W2 tar pit

-Venom 65
>2 splinter cannons 30
(95)

-Raider 95
>dark lance 20
>shock prow 1
(116)

-3 Reavers (+1T drug) 90
>agoniser 4
>blaster 15
>grav talon 5
(114)

-Ravager 95
>3 dark lances 60
>shock prow 1
(156)

-5 Kabalite trueborn 55
>4 blasters 60
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>blast pistol 10
(128)

-10 Kabalite warriors 70
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>splinter cannon 15
>blaster 15
(103)

-Archon 54
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>husk blade 10
>blaster 15
(82)


TOTAL: 794

>>54688114
Coolio, I'll do 3 breachers to show what anti-vehicle can do and leave the rest for more Sicarians. Thanks friendo

>>54688147

Good luck anon

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>>54688117
Actually my buddy doing Nurglr CSM bought the 80$ split box today, so I might split it with him for the SM

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>>54687204

No one?

I'm convinced that I'm the only 40k player who owns a claw.

>>54688147
Breachers are shite m8, Destroyers are half passable

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>>54688118
As much of a madman as I am for wanting all 120 of my boyz to wear helmets

>>54688095
This, you earned the (you)

>>54688164
That's a lot of helmets.

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>>54688164

>all those painted Orks...

If only we could play

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I imagine these have already been shared, but fuck it

The Konor stratagem cards of upcoming weeks

How are the GW basing things? Like the Stirland Mud and such.

>>54688075

Pretty sure there's about 13. Craftworlders might have a few fluff variants, notably Aspects, though also wrapped into Ynnari, as are most Eldar. Harlequins are also unique, there's several groups of Dark Eldar like Wyches and Haemonculi, Exodites of course, Rangers/Pirates, and then we have Crone World Eldar who are potentially hugely powerful Chaos servants but we have never seen depiction of outside of the occasional fluff mention and maybe a single picture.

Emperor bless chinaman's forgeworld prices.

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>mfw I've been sitting in the old thread for at least an hour while I just noticed this one was up

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>>54688161
Yeah true I guess, I dunno mans. I'll just do this-

>dominus
>3 destroyers
>3 vanguard squads
>10 Electropriests
>5 Infiltrators
>Onager
And if I lose whether by lost or because I'm too stupid to fight a child, oh well. I intend to throw it anyways to teach the value of maneuvering and unit postitioning

>>54688158
i don't have one .. but i want 3 .. for my world eaters.

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Got some pics from one of my Konor games this week, we chose me (Orkz) as attacker because otherwise it would have been brutally unfair

Here's my 150 boyz ready for the fight

>>54688198
>pirates

Kabals anon. KABALS

>>54688158
>>54687204
Dreadclaws were stupidly points inefficient last edition and still are this edition. It's fast transport that doesn't lose movement as it loses wounds, but it's pretty weak at fighting and drop pod assault just seems pointless right now. I too wish to field a couple,
but just can't justify sinking 200 points it

>>54688158
It's a pretty pricey way to deliver a dreadnought and doesn't really make up for it with it's durability or offensive power. I've only ever considered getting the bigger version to throw 20 berserkers into it purely for the shock factor, but I don't own one. Might be interesting to cram 9 of something choppy in there with a Sorcerer who knows Warptime for the immediate charge or some melta to assassinate a vehicle. Some alternate threats jumping in alongside it like Raptor/Warp Talons or Terminators to make your opponent have to pick his targets instead of focusing it down could help. You'll have to play around with it some more. I don't know what kind of list you're running.

>>54688219
And the fuck went wrong with spoilers formatting, did not start a new line there.

Why do some people say next year is the year of the xenos?
Reading elsewhere and people say stuff along the line of
>No xenos dexes this year, chaos focus, next year the focus is on xenos

I don't recall GW ever saying focus on Xenos upcoming... ever

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>>54688180
>FIGHTER ACE
OH FUCK YES

I feel some BRRRRRT coming on. Know what week?

>>54686982
>officer corpse
That's not how you spel-
Nevermind.
I see they are Astra Militarum.

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>>54688213
here's a pic of both of our deployments

As you can see my army was just a fuckton of boyz with two bosses, two meks, and two wierdboys, last but not least all supplemented by 3 wazbom blasta jets for AT purposes

His army IIRC was plague marines in rhinos, two defilers, two bloat drones,typhus, the psyker dude they have too, and a heldrake he kept in reserve

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>>54688176
>>54688164
Can our Steel Legion team up?

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>>54688180
>fighter ace
V O I D R A V E N S

HIIIIWAAAYYYYY TOOOO THEEE DANGER ZONE!

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>>54688266
>>54688176
I'll help purge some Xenos.
>When I get time to paint

>>54687638
Plus Platoon Commanders are elite choices for some stupid fucking reason.

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>>54688258
a better shot of my jets because I don't field them often enough and they look good

>>54688293
Normally I'd say go post on Reddit, but since I'm in a decent mood, good job anon.

>>54688180
>warp surge
ORKZ CAN CAST DA JUMP TWICE

*60* FUCKING BOYZ DEEPSTRIKING

>>54688283
What the heck is on your sentinal?

>>54688293

You know, I'll probably never play Orks in my life.

But if I were to, it would be so that I can mass Dakkajets and have my very own Deff Skwadron.

>>54688315
looks like a mod of the forge world power lifter

>>54688315

Forge World Power-Lifter claw. Well, looks recast from the color of the resin.

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If I were to start up Necrons, would a Destroyer heavy force be viable? I'm talking a Destroyer Lord or two, then just as many squads of Destroyers and Heavy Destroyers as I can get for my points with perhaps one or two Doom Scythes for air support.

I just think they're cool.

Suggestions or thoughts on 1500 points of Saim Hann?

Autarch Skyrunner Illyia Marenhide - 130
- Fusion Gun, Laser Lance, TL Shuriken Catapults

Farseer Skyrunner - 171
- Witchblade, TL Shuriken Catapults

6 Windriders - 180
- 6 TL Shuriken Catapults

6 Windriders - 192
- 6 Shuriken Cannons

6 Reavers - 214
- 2 Blasters
- 1 Agoniser

4 Shining Spears - 175
- 3 Laser Lances, TL Shuriken Catapults
- 1 Star Lance, TL Shuriken Catapults

8 Storm Guardians - 90
- 2 Fusion Guns

Wave Serpent - 164
- TL Bright Lances, Shuriken Cannon, Crystal Targeting Matrix

Crimson Hunter - 183
- Pulse Laser, 2 Bright Lances

Ok here's a second attempt at nids at 2000 points.

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [590pts]

HQ
Old One Eye [140pts]

Heavy Support
Carnifexes [108pts]
. Carnifex: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Crushing Claws, Monstrous Scything Talons, Thresher Scythe

Carnifexes [114pts]
. Carnifex: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Crushing Claws, Thresher Scythe, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Carnifexes [114pts]
. Carnifex: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Crushing Claws, Thresher Scythe, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Carnifexes [114pts]
. Carnifex: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Crushing Claws, Thresher Scythe, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Battalion Detachment +3CP (Tyranids) [1410pts]

HQ
Hive Tyrant [185pts]: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Prehensile Pincer Tail
Tervigon [250pts]: Massive Scything Talons, Stinger Salvo

Troops
Genestealers [180pts]
. 15x Genestealer: 15x Rending Claws
Termagants [120pts]
. 10x Termagant (Devourer): 10x Devourer
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)
Termagants [120pts]
. 10x Termagant (Devourer): 10x Devourer
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)
Termagants [120pts]
. 10x Termagant (Devourer): 10x Devourer
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)
Tyranid Warriors [72pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Scything Talons

Elites
Lictor [45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws
Lictor [45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws
Lictor [45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws

Heavy Support
Exocrine [228pts]: Bio-plasmic Cannon, Powerful Limbs

Total: [2000pts]

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>>54688293
okay reposting, dunno how I managed to fuck up that crop

Anyways, last shot before movement, mostly to show his army a bit better

>>54688327
No. You take some heavy destroyers in any list because you don't want a doomsday ark and lychaguard already heave medium-strength units covered. A triarch is honestly the most useful bargain-brand item

the patrician choice is tombblades, btw

>>54688219
My claw did work for me last edition. At the very least, it was a sure fire way for my Brute/Contemptor to get shit done.

>>54688230
That's how I feel, but maybe I just need to build around it more. I never used it with my terminators.
>what kind of list you're running
Usually I have 5-10 Terminators, Lord and Sorc with jump packs, some melee troops and/or cultists, and some Havoks and/or my contemptor or a brute. I haven't used many raptors but I have them, and I have a lot of shit I can use.

>>54688333
>Saim Hann
>reavers

Just give up already, standard Eldar is 2 wave serphents packed with goodies while dark Reapers and windriders hold midfield. Or wraiths, if you're into that.

At your FLGS do new models make old ones unplayable? Like lots of people on /tg/ are complaining that they already have a bunch of models painted so they don't want new ones as if the old ones stop existing. For example if Primarus models weren't Primarus and were just the new tactical sqaud, would your FLGS stop letting you use old ones? I know mine wouldn't and it would be silly to think otherwise.

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>>54688358
so everybody moves up, my jets fly in formation, injure his leftmost defiler a bit and pop the rhino on the left as well

My Jump weirdboy actually casts without hurting himself, and one of my 30 man blob drops over to control his flank, I manage to flub on my charge and reroll though so he gets to take the initiative on that fight

>>54688381
Yeah, I don't own them yet, but I want to get some more CC options into my Eldar force, and though I might use them as a more savage Wild Rider clan.

>wraiths
eh, pass

>wave serpents
I do own two, but I'm not certain what I should put into them. Wraithguard are obvious, but I'm not really a fan, and Howling Banshees seem a little lacklustre.

>Dark Reapers
Don't own 'em, don't really like the models.

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>>54688116
God I hope not

>>54688180
My store didn't end up getting these, is there a resource so we can still use them?

>>54688365
Awww. I like the synergy a big squad of Destroyers has with the Lord, and they look like they have a lot of dakka as well as being good candidates for Reanimation Protocols, what with their 3 wounds a pop.

If they won't let you use a model you paid for that has been made by GW just on the basis that it has a newer model, then that place should just sell magic cards.

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>>54688116

>>54688426
Meant for >>54688397

>>54688397
That has never been a thing. Old models are still legal. The general complaint is that some older models are invalidated by newer ones doing the same job but better. The other complaint I've seen a lot of is some chaos fags complaining about how old and dated some of their models look which is a totally different thing

>>54688409
Yeah, banshees are alright but lackluster against a lot of T4 stuff.... so what the swords are good for. Spears are fun, expensive but if done right can smoke most anything.

I usually do 5 Fire Dragons and 6 banshees plus an HQ for psychic powers/rerolls, it's when banshees come into their own. But if you're doing DEldar allies go all in, 10 incubi in a raider to back up your melee is the tits.

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>>54688408
when it's his go, he sprints one drone up the table to try and attack my jets, the other goes to slow down the failed charge teleport squad, he also has the now rhinoless squad of plague marines sprint over and flamer into the redladz

his other marines jump out of their rhinos and walk into cover, then the two remaining rhinos suicide charge into me to try and prevent the horde from advancing so quickly

His defilers shoot into my jets without much effect due to their 5+ inv

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>>54686822
Does it count as being paranoid if you were right?

https://youtu.be/7YvAYIJSSZY

Sorry to do this to you but testing

>>54688258
Its like im really watching fantasy 8th ed games again.

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>>54688477
I get they movement trays make the game faster, but they look so stupid. It pulls so much interaction and strategy from the game when you just turn your army into literal blocks that you just push towards the enemy.

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>>54688477
better shot of the carnage

>>54688454
>Incubi in a Raider
Probably won't go this far with the DEldar allies, though I might try running Scourges or Reavers

I could drop the Jetbike Farseer down to a footseer and chuck her into a Wave Serpent, but I'm a bit worried she'd get isolated and killed.

>>54688513
>It pulls so much interaction and strategy from the game
It's not the movement trays doing that, it's the horde armies.

>>54688526
>Reavers
Oops, Hellions

>>54688526
DEldar player here. I love Scourges. Kit them all out with Dark Lances, or if you really hate vehicles, Haywire Blasters, then drop them somewhere safe and snipe your opponent like crazy.

A squad of ten with their default Shardcarbines can be a nice anti-infantry force as well.

>>54688543
Horde armies can still benefit from cover and varied patterns of troops. Not with movement trays.