Malifaux General

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>>54676211
>>54676211
>...Wait, they removed a Kentauroi sculpt from the picture.

They always do.

Seems like most of the three-pose things that come out these days get two-model boxes on release, with the third (most complex to cast?) saved for Ltd Eds.

>>54678481
How are these guys? I got them because I fucking hate arcanist armors but haven't actually played them yet.

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>>54678642
Not a clue, I play Arcanists.
On paper they look decent though - they're one of the models people love to hate because Regen and Reckless is free AP.

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>>54677499
So I think I might pick up Tits McSteamfitter. I don't play Arcanists, but I think she'd make a great alternate nurse.

The boobs remind me of the Nurse's plastic surgery obsession, and a blowtorch is par for the course for McMourning style surgery.

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>>54679696
That's not a bad idea actually, especially given the look of the Flesh Constructs.

>>54678642
>>54678807
I haven't run them, but for their price they look thoroughly okay.

The regen needs a 7 to get off, so it's less likely the more you run. Their damage profile isn't all that great, unless up against something Glowy helps with.

The biggest drawback is that they don't compare well against other 7ss models like Burt or Francois.

>>54678481
At $40 for two it seems like a bad deal now. The Jorogumo are great at $40 for 3. I guess that puts them in line with the mounted guard.

>>54679881
I'm thinking about making my own, on the cheap. I'm not that huge a fan of the models.

Does anyone know of an easier digest verson of the FAQ/errata? I played a lot about a year ago then left the country came back and found quite a bit of changes and am kinda scrambling to get it together to start up a league soon

>>54681502
When a new FAQ or errata comes out Aaron or whatever makes a thread on the forums detailing what the general changes are. They are probably worth looking at.

So, Kentauroi: are they going to be more for carrying Nico/Molly around, or are they worth it as beaters?

>>54682415
It looks like both too me. Although generating corpses seems more in Nico's bailiwick. I could see Reva using them too.

What do you guys think of Talos? Does he enhance Tara's gameplay or is it just more gimmicky plates to keep spinning?

>>54682581
It looks like a pretty solid beater.

Into the Furnace seems pretty card intensive to keep up. And if you fail Talos takes a bunch of wounds. Although I guess you could use it as a quick heal late game, or focus on low willpower units, like Lenny.

Randomly, the "tarot Fate Deck" is listed as a TTB product. Do we know if it'd work as a Malifaux fate deck or are there any differences that'd prevent it?

>>54683252
I think it'll just have Tarot symbols on a normal fate deck, since that's what TTB uses.

Maybe it'll have rules for character creation on the cards if it's weird.

>>54683300

Thanks. I'm not very familiar with TTB.

>>54683317
It's pretty much what you'd imagine. It's about as close to a direct port of Malifaux into a RPG as you could get. IIRC, the two are pretty much cross compatible. (Anything Master level will wreck your shit BBEG style.)

>alt Hamelin box is $90
Oh, right in the wallet. Was expecting it to be around $75.

>>54683797
That is rough.

>>54683797

Yeah, shot right out of my price range. It's a fun set but not $90 fun, especially with the add-on coming Black Friday.

So, after reading Reva's bit in Book four, I'm wondering whether she's actually a force for good or not.

I know it's supposed to be ambiguous but I'm hoping she's legit. It'd be cool to have an actual good resser. Although I guess Molly isn't too far off.

>>54684007

I don't think Molly will ever be "evil", but she's becoming steadily grayer as time goes on.

>>54683953
I'm probably still going to get it since my only Hamelin models are from 1st Ed, but I'm probably not going to be getting much else.

>>54684210
I'm starting to think Hamlin must be a Wrrd favorite. This'll be his 4th model, iirc.

Maybe that's why 2point models are only cool when he does it.

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>>54684248
Oh definitely, he's someone's pet character.

>>54684707
That'd be Levi, or at least it used to be

>>54684990
>That'd be Levi, or at least it used to be
What makes you say that?

>>54684248
I think this is actually his 5th. Theres his base, alt with nix, 2e, vintage, and now this one.

>>54685304
>vintage
Don't remember that one. I remember henchman, then master, then 2nd and this one.

What's the vintage one?

I think he honestly needs an minion version.

Vintage is his Avatar model I believe.

>>54685414
The vintage model is the guilder store one. It has the same design as his avatar sculpt, but slightly larger and minus the scenery piece of course.

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>>54685414
what the others said. Personally I think its his best. Its also the only one where hes playing his pipes.

>>54685780
Agreed.

Is there a terrain kit or do you guys make your own or borrow from your LGS? Post terrain if you have them.

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>>54687917
There are a few terrain kits, but I don'tknow if they're still supported.
4Ground and Plascraft(?) do some.

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Anyone ordering this guy? Is he good with Dreamer?
What about the new upgrades deck, any more details regarding that or are we supposed to order it blind?

Looking to get some value out of the special, going to get alt Hamelin and another outcast box so I can get Taelor.

Anyone have a stong opinion towards Talos or Stalker, I play almost entirely Jacky D is it helps.

>>54690843
Stalker's a very mobile scheme runner and Talos is another Tara gimmick.

>>54690598
Based on the playtest he has no real synergies with the Dreamer. He does sound really annoying though, and could work in a more general Neverborn crew.

>>54691407
>another Tara gimmick.

Damn, that's what, the fourth one? Someone in design has a hard-on for her.

>>54694648
I honestly felt like it was the opposite.
>See, we gave Tara a new toy. Do you like her yet?
>P-please senpai

>>54694648
They're just trying to make her playable in theme

>>54694948
She just needs an upgrade that let's glimpse the Void bury more models

>>54694648
To be fair, a lot of other outcast master also got new toys - new nihilist and lost, new outlaw, new freikorp, new tormented.

>>54695981
Who is the new lost?

>>54696055
Marlene Webster

The new TTB book has a picture of Von Schill in it sporting his new cyberpunk look with one steampunky arm and leg.

>>54695981
Anywhere I can read up on these new toys?

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>>54696135
Neat. pics?

>>54696137

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>>54696306
Just this shitty one.

>>54696378
Neat. I hope that someone uploads PDFs for Fire in the Sky, A Stitch in Time, and of course TTB 2E soon.

>>54696378
>Punished Shill
I'm hoping he gets a cool mechanical fist attack with an upgrade.

>>54696466
>TTB 2E
They're coming it with a second Ed already?

>>54696466
I could be happy with just 2E, though the others would be nice.
>>54696526
2E is for the most parts a rules cleanup, rather than new content, so it's easy to make a new edition

>>54696559
I'm just surprised there find a new one already. Seems soon.

Although to be honest the first book is a pretty awful mess. Not terrible, but it definitely feels like a groups first attempt at an RPG.

>>54697393
I've had alot of fun with it, but yeah, the book needs some tidying up.

>>54697522
I've thought about running games using it.

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>>54697569
Do it

>>54697590
I might. If I decide I've had enough of this new campaign.

I think done if the players who would be down would prefer Deadlands instead.

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>>54696378
That looks dope.
I hope the Freikorps get more robomans, even if it does encroach on Mei Feng's bit a little.

Hell, they should team up for sexy robot bondage suit punchan action.

>>54696378
Why are we here? Just to suffer?
My leg..

>>54696378
He just needs an eye patch and we have a perfect steampunk Big Boss.

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>>54699361
>He just needs an eye patch and we have a perfect steampunk Big Boss.
Awwwwww shit son, that has to happen.

>>54698870
The new engineer looks sick. Pretty easy to give itself a 3/4/6 damage spread on its gun on a 6ss model.

>>54699361
>>54699704
Should be pretty easy with greenstuff.
You could even give him the horn.

>>54700129
I can't wait to use the engineer with Howard and give him a built in decapitate trigger

>>54700183
The Engineer only gives Rams to Outcasts.

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>>54700183
Oh shit son.
That's pretty brutal.

...
Oh, he's not a merc.
Are you a filthy Levi player or something?

Actually, the trigger is "If the target is an Outcast, they gain+Rams".

What are you talking about?

So: Asura Roten. Neat abilities but what lists do you see yourself taking her in and why?

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>>54700234
>>54700320
Shitty, I totally misread the card. There goes that plan

>>54700129
It's also easy to get free cards just by parking him next to a marker.

>>54701097
Can still throw it on the strong arm suit for free + flips to damage

>>54696378
How do I convert my Von Schill to look like this?

>>54700638
Seems pretty great with Nico. 8ss and generates a corpse a turn with no effort.

Giving out better attacks is swank.

>>54701206
Also a bonus.

>>54696466
I really want to see the Earth side.
But Fire in the Sky haven't published the digital book.

>>54701480
Use spare mechanical limbs from the TTB character kits, or just wait for the inevitable alt model.

>>54703672
I keep forgetting that they delay the PDFs for these things. I hope to see the ToS rulebook come promptly as well.

So I was thinking about making custom tokens.

If I'm making 30mm should I make them actually the 30mm or the weird lipped 32-ish mm ones that come with models.

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>>54706435
30mm - it''s the size.

Though if you do it with bases, like everyone else does, no-one wiwll bat an eyelind. That millimitre a side won't make tangible difference.

How flimsy is Mei Feng's model at the railroad bits she's jumping on? Is it as brittle as Lady Justice's Scales of Justice?

>>54703716
Is it worth it to pick one of them up for bits in general?

>>54691407
Talos is also pretty sweet with Rusty Alice and I got really good use with him in Levi's crew.

And more models for Tara is a really good thing. It'd be nice not to have to take 6 Void Wretches every game. I find she's one of the strongest masters in my hands, but for new comers I can only imagine she must seem awful.

>>54708980
Iirc, not to fragile. At least I didn't have any problems putting her together.

>>54710504
>Talos is also pretty sweet with Rusty Alice
That does sound pretty swank, if you get it to work.

>>54710504
He does seem pretty interesting. I also like the not-relic hammer.

Seems like alt-Huggy and Nekima will be retail releases down the line, not just special sculpts.

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>>54708980
The railway sleepers are all one piece, very sturdy.
The contact point is as much of her lagging foot as you want to glue, so that's up to you - she is competely separate from the basing.

>>54713475
That's a system I could get behind - re-releasing models with nice new sculpts.

>>54713475
Sauce on that?

>>54714113

http://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/129328-wyrd-gencon-newsletter/?do=findComment&comment=1039968

>>54713975
>That's a system I could get behind - re-releasing models with nice new sculpts.
This. There are tons of cool models and sculpts I have missed out on.

http://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/128853-speculation-on-broken-promises-upgrades/?do=findComment&comment=1039001

I swear every post from this new player is awful.

Ramos totally needs longer range on his summoning, and better defenses.

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>>54715529
>one time I lost a game because I am new and bad, this is really an issue that should be patched with upgrades.
>Also, there's a scheme that Arcanists don't have an auto-win pick for, would be useful to have a patch to fix this.

>>54715529
The one bright side of account based posting is that you can safely ignore everything specific users say. Browse around for a week and you'll quickly know who to listen to.

>>54715226
It doesn't sound like the will rerelease existing alt models, but selling newer ones as part of a general release sounds nice.

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>>54715607
Iget a little concerned about three or four of the accounts on the rules questions forums.
Those guys should really consider taking a break to eat or sleep every now and then.
The world won't collapse of Solkan and Ludwig aren't around to argue rules-grammar.

How is Kandara looking?

I'm interested in her fluff too.

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>>54718756
I don't think there's any fluff out for her yet...
The last round of playtesting looked pretty strong, with teleporting Gamin shenanigans.

>>54718935
>another Sandeep buff
Great...

So, I got royally shat upon from a great height by Kolodi and his puppet shenanigans, what, as an outcasts player, should I do if I find myself in this situation again?

>>54720302
if you can somehow kill collodi before he gets going then the rest of the crew is pretty ineffective, personnel puppet is reasonably short ranged too so if you've got some way of separating him from his puppets that makes him easier to deal with too.
I don't really know outcasts but stuff that ignores armor and H2K are always a bonus too.

>>54720370
It's just when he goes, "Ok, I cheat intiative because dopelganger, get 4 fairly strong ranged attacks off, then push out of threat" I was pretty much just resigned to my fate of a 10-0.

>>54720302
>outcasts
Who are you running? That blob up the middle seems like a great target for Vik's.

>>54715529
>http://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/128853-speculation-on-broken-promises-upgrades/?do=findComment&comment=1039001

Seriously, all of Ramos's abilities on the front are defensive tech. Armour +2, healing, and pushing people away (notably out of most melee ranges) isn't enough for people? Does he also need disguised, reborn (from the midnight stalker), impossible to wound and hard to kill?

>>54722916
From my experience, Ramos is perfectly fine defense wise (although stuff that ignores triggers can fuck him up something proper but that's fine).

He could use a little versatility though, at the moment he's a little bland to play. How about Morphing your constructs into more expensive ones?

>>54723676

We'd be fine with upgrades that vary up his playstyle. We're just raging at this newbie that repeatedly offers balance suggestions despite clearly only having a few games under their belt.

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>>54723755
I'm aware, just wanted to discuss potential upgrades.

This seems appropriate.

>>54724433
Pretty much the case, some one did a poll on AWP a long time ago asking how many games everyone plays per month.

Many of the people that regularly offer balance insights and advice were playing once per month, if that. It boggles the mind that these people think they understand the game.

Anyone have much experience with Archie? I like him for theme but I'm wondering how well he works in practice given his huge ss cost.

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Does anyone know how the Puppet Wars stuff scales against normal Malifaux figures?
I wanted to add a couple of Nurses and voodoo dolls to Zoraida, but if they are going to be ridiculously tiny I won't bother.


>>54719991
Hey man, there are still tournaments out there he .isn't winning, he needs it.

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>>54726881
So the only thing that matters is correct base sizes buuuuut pic related, if them being that big on 30mm bases is good it'll be fine

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>>54726967
I'm really looking for an idea of how tall they are, and how they look alongside normal Malifaux models.

Obviously they are legal on the correct base, but that doesn't mean they'll look ok.

The Executioner looks to be only about 30mm tall, even if he's noticeably stockier than most of the rest of the puppets.

The internet seems short on photos featuring the two lines side by side.

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>>54726967
>>54727025
>>54726881
Welp, I think this image shafts it - I was going to pick up the Executioner too to go with my Lucius, but he's definitely way too small

The nurses might work, since it's Z.

>>54727327
Well glad I could help as much as I could

>>54724973
He's a big 13 point beater. He'll wreck stuff if he gets in close.

Too get the most out of him, you'll need mobility tricks so he can spend most of his actions putting things.

I've decided to buy the Viktorias and Leveticus to start with, and the Outcast Arsenal set. Are there any suggestions on what single models I should get that are cheap and good supplements for either side?

>>54711231
I've gotten him work with her in three games. Void Wretches go well with Levi as his triggers make you ditch tons of cards.

I reactivate him to one wound with Alice, then get him to damage them bury how target, then the Void Wretches eat the buried model alive and kill him so Talos gets to keep his wounds.

>>54729353
Friekorps Librarian and trappers are a solid addition to any outcast crew imo.

Levi and the bills don't have a whole lot of overlap otherwise.

>>54729527
That does seem solid, if you can out activate.

>>54729537
Oops, I meant maybe one model to buy for Viks and one model to buy for Levi.

>>54729613
Bills is definitely get Vanessa.

Levi is harder. If doing constructs is thinking about the mechanical rider for low resource summoning down field as early as turn 2.

>>54729746
>Bills
>This whole post
Fuck phone posting

>>54729575
Void Wretches make that very easy

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>>54729575
>>54729874
>X make it easy to out-activate.
>triggered

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>>54729746
Post-errata she's not so low-resource, and she doesn't kick out all that any summons...

I never really saw the huge appeal previously, but now, even less so.

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Anyone particularly excited for their GenCon pickups?

The Thallarian Quellers looks pretty great, ruled and models.

>>54731276
Poor Tara
>>54732036
Even now, a 8 isn't that hard to come by. Not requiring scrap, corpses, or another resource means it's still not rescource intensive.

Since he's just been brought up, how good is Leveticus in general ? Thinking of expanding to my second master.

>>54733512
not as horribly killy as he was pre nerf, still perfectly decent, depending on upgrades there's a massive choice in what he can field since he can take undead/constructs/riders from other factions

>>54734771
I thought the choice was just undead/constructs ?

>>54734820
Riders with the emissary's conflux upgrade, but as the riders are either undead or constructs you can hire them with the pariah upgrades as well.

>>54733103

I definitely want the Kentauroi, even if they cut the best sculpt. I'm not 100% on Asura but it's a definite maybe. I'm kind of hopeful they'll have some stock of the alt McMourning, Nicodem, and Rafkin available.

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>Nerf Outcast Rats.
>Nerf Gremlin Piglets.

>Give Ressurs more Mindless Zombies.

My sides.

>>54736146
What exactly are the Asura Rotten beyond "yet another box of zombies"? Shit like this makes the Ressers the most boring faction ever.

>>54736299
Asura is a mindless zombie factory that gives Mindless Zombies a Ml6 2/3/4 attack (all undeads really, but). The box just comes with two more MZ's because you're not going to have enough with 5 if you build a crew around them.

>>54736413
I think that the zombies are there because they are supposed to be based with her. When they showed off her sculpt at Adpeticon they were glued onto the same base, and as of the last playtesting document she was supposed to have a 50mm base. Nothing stops you from basing the zombies separately of course, but we probably won't be fortunate enough to get extra stat cards for the zombies.

>>54736513
Huh, well that's a bummer.

>>54736413
So it's not 3 Asura Roten models, but the Asura's only the girl and there are 2 plain Mindless extras?

>>54736772

Yes. Asura is a henchman.

>>54724561
To truly understand balance, you'd need to play a ludicrous number of games, to see all the different crews matchups, the different crew selections, different terrain types, and with all the different scheme and strategies.

On the other hand, it's pretty easy to say that some shit's OP based on 1 game where it wrecked your face.

>>54734820
....being able to take any constructs, or any undead is heaps. The whole outcasts, plus so much otherwise, you can get some sweet combos.

For example, the popular metal gamin + Teddy pairing.

>>54737937
>metal gamin + Teddy pairing
How's that work?

>>54737937
.. metal gamin + teddy makes me want to puke, but that's more just me hating the models.

But yeah the insane catalogue of hires he can take, is part of the reason i want him as my second master.

>>54737993
defense 7 teddy

>>54737993
Something that is a lot better on paper than on the table. As mobile as teddy wants to be it can be hard to keep a metal gamin within 3".

I'm conflicted whether or not I want to grab Talos during Gencon. I play Ressers but I don't have Tara yet and am not in a huge rush for her since her box adds nothing to the rest of the faction. On the other hand, if I skip him now God only knows when he will actually be available again.

>>54739879
I'm in the same boat. I've got Tara, but I've been on a big hamelin kick. I'm also getting the alt hamelin box and that's cutting into my gencon money quit a bit. Luckily the tarot deck turned out to be ass so I don't have to get that.

>>54740424

What's wrong with the tarot deck?

Question for anyone who also has the TTB 2. edition book.

Did I get that right, that in the introduction adventure, aside from the PC's and a convict, every other person on the train simply disappears and is thus basically dead?

>>54723755
Playtester here. Ramos' early play tests were gong to give him another tomes on his summon. Thankfully that didn't pan out.

Instead, he's getting... well, a ton of versatility, better shooting, scheme denial and area control. You bet your ass his play style changes up.

>>54677499
How's Lynch as a starting master for Neverborn players? Any must haves?

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>>54739186
7?
6.

>>54739773
They can Magnetism to him, can't they?
That's 13" (Wk+Magnet+Aura).
Not as fast as teddy, to be fair, but doesn't need too much help, and if you're sending Teddy off 16" ahead of support he's boned anyway.

>>54742121
>Playtester here. Ramos' early play tests were gong to give him another tomes on his summon.
What?
That's a ridiculous suggestion. Glad they cut it, but I'm alarmed that was on the table to begin with.

>Instead, he's getting... well, a ton of versatility,
Maybe we'll see him outside of his one pool, that'll be nice.

>>54742121

Looking forward to seeing it.

>>54740491
The art I'd just the book art being reused, the cards themselves just seem lackluster, and they didn't even use the actual major arcana for the cards. I'm just a bit let down.

>>54742728
Wasn't Molly summoning Kirai also on the table? Seems they were just throwing random ideas around, some without even the intention to even let it go through.

>>54742121
On that note, any other peculiar suggestions and ideas that didn't make it to the final cut? Anything on TT? I heard something about Misaki getting to place blastmarkers anywhere across the field.

>>54742192
Gwynneth Maddox in wave 5 will be a mini-Lynch, so that's fun.
Lynch has 2 main modes- bag of tricks, or full brilliance tag and bag. Bag of tricks works better in 10T because hoo boy can that faction gain benefits from free discarding (via aces).

For the tag and bag (give opponents drugs, murder them for having drugs)- grab the box, beckoners for the lure and ability to give drugs at 10 inches. You've then got 7 ss to spare (assuming addict on huggy, 5ss of upgrades of lynch), so you can grab a scheme runner you like, or Mr. Tannen, or the depleted for cheap shitty tanks that have brilliance tricks.

>>54742192
As for the how- not particularly much crossover, but a solid master who is forgiving for newbies while still having tricks. Beckoners only must haves, just grow from there as desired.

>>54744389
Yeah, Molly and Kirai could summon each other, but it was a joke upgrade.

Somer could, at one point, be the only master his faction could ever need. Oh, wait...

There was a thunders henchman who was literally better than some masters. Ironside could get armor 2 and hard to wound. Lady justice could use her gun with shoot 3 and teleport through walls. Zoraida got an upgrade that literally did nothing while Lilith could turn half the board into carnivorous plants. Lynch could play literal poker.

>>54744452
What discarding models would you recommend for 10T?

>>54745949
Tannen

Why play these when Test of Honour is out

Fuck malifaux

The fuck is test of honor?

Nevermind. Just downloaded the PDF.
I don't think I've ever seen a worse war game.

>>54746488
Get the fuck out of here shill

>>54746085
I don't think that Tannen can take advantage of Ace in the Hole. I was thinking of something along the lines of the emissary where you can pitch cards for a benefit.

http://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/129383-monday-preview-august-7th/

>>54747140
I guess bobbing lantern, hidden shenlong will be a pretty cool 10T list

>>54747140
Those look pretty dumb. Make be glad I don't play 10t

>>54746805
Ah, I thought you we looking for models that forced opponent discards.

>>54747140
What in tarnation...

And I was genuinely hype for these models too. Seriously, fuck whatever tard did this.

>>54747140
Cool and unique. Are the rules good?

>>54677499
Maddox looks pretty awesome. Does she make Brilliance builds for Lynch viable?

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>>54747466
>Bobbing lantern, hidden Shenlong
Nice.

>>54747140
>>54747525
>Those look pretty dumb.
Yeah I'm not too keen.
There seems to be a bigger comedy-ish slant on the art with the new artist which I'm not enjoying.
Riding rocket-lanterns is too far.
Shit comedy models plz stay in Gremlins.

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>>54747140
These look like something out of Mario Kart. I was hoping that they would be holding the lanterns, not, well, this.

>>54749926
They are mercs which can make them generally useful for any faction if you want to hose summoners. The final rules are probably going to be different.

>>54750271
It's funny that they are actually making the gremlins less comedic. The new illustrations and renders all give the gremlins beady red eyes, and really emphasizes their teeth to make them look more like monsters.

>>54750411
Don't seem to be mercs though?

>>54750448
Whoops, my bad. They were mercs in an earlier playtest iteration.

>>54747140
I just wanted them to be dressed in some vaguely oriental spiritual/ritual garb with some paper charms. Dunno if this is all the new artist but this isn't gonna be a wave for buying them just for the models.

Even the Tanuki - all they needed was something that at least hinted at balls and I'd be happy with it, but with the shit rules and now shit sculpts I am not touching that shit.

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>>54750411
>They are mercs
Not according to that card, though obviously that's a couple of months out of date.

>>54750431
>It's funny that they are actually making the gremlins less comedic.
I mean, it's something...

>>54750271
I think that they moved all their good artists to working on ToS in order to sell it up, while having the new lady do most of the work for Malifaux.

>>54745657
>TT henchman that was better than some masters
>Lynch could literally play poker
I really want to hear about these now.

>>54750933
Mah is a master, so quite a few henchmen are better.

Is there ANY way for Mah to be good?

Man, she is just fucking awful.

I'm not sure if they should up her bashing like Seamus one shotting people or if they should give her other things.

Best master in neverborn with new units - GO

>>54751285
Try to just sit in the back and push pigs around, and only run down the board and hit some dudes after the board clears a bit. I am looking forward to seeing her upgrade, but as all of her upgrades are just buffs rather than new actions, I am not holding my breath.

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>>54751285
Use her to Slow big beaters, and buff the rest of the crew.

Like Lady J, only not actually killy.

Unrelated, does Sparks get a run out with Gremlins, or only with Mei Feng?
He seems like he might be worthwile with Iron Skeeters.

>>54747140
They fucking what?

This better be a 10t/Grems crossover.

I just got the starter set for Malifaux and I love the models. They are really beautifally sculpted and have TONS of character. But it's really fucking annoying when you have to glue 5 together for a model that could just be assembled in like two.

>>54752407
Are you complaining about the 2-player starter? Because if so, I have bad news for you.

>>54697569
I've run several campaigns with it,so heres some advice. Either invest in the penny dreadfuls that have Master level characters statted up in them, or make your own BBEG, because the book villains rarely go above Henchman, and your players will be strolling through them near the end game. Fate is optional, but fun and fluffy. Into the Bayou is an Amazing supplement that makes brilliant use for players who are new to the system, but know Malifaux. Into the Steam has some cool concepts, but is really easy to powergame. And the Books are worth it for the continued adventures of an Undead Mind Controlling mage who works for Lucius about 50% of the time.

>>54752754
Thanks for the tips. I hope to see the second edition book balance things out a bit more.

>>54752796
Oh and if you do use Into the Bayou, only allow one instance of the Talent "Crude Sense of humour." It gives a (0) action called "pull my finger" that applies poison +2 to all non-gremlins in a 2 aura range. You can see how broken that is if you have more than one person doing it.

>>54753127
That sounds tragically dumb.

>>54750552
The Tanuki are a strange design decision visually. I don't even hate them, really. I think that the models have a good amount of character and detail based on the renders. But it goes against all of the other TT monsters who are made to look "Realistic", whereas these guys look like Kung-fu Panda rejects due to how cartoony they are.

Mechanically they just don't cut the mustard. If they were 4ss and still had Tanuki Hat I would love to take them along with a lot of masters. Sending McCabe down board to threaten my opponent's deployment zone only to real him back in would be hilarious. Otherwise they just need a lot of set up in order to give other models reactivate, and they don't look like they are worth it. I may pick some up for vanity purposes as I did with the Fermented River Monks.

>>54753166
Its terrifying. Poison +8 on the first round of combat.

>>54752754

Any particular opinions on the Necromancy-centric pursuits, like Graverobber and the Under Quarantine stuff?

>>54753336
The Graverobber and Grave servant are as powerful as you as the Fatemaster allows them to be. Limit the number of zombies allowed, or make the enemies deal with the undead well. the stuff in Under Quarantine is actually very little to do with necromancy, and has some essential pursuits, like the medic and the forgotten. All the books are okay, just limit to what extent people use stuff, and if things get out of control, give one of them blood sickness and let them run around the city panicking for a few sessions.

>>54752521
Explain.

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>>54754959

>>54754959
Most models consist on 6-8 parts each (but there are extremes like the utter piece of shit pictured above), so better get used to the delicate work. I've assembled like 1/3 of the range and I love it (mostly, again, fuck the steam trunk), so ask away :^)

Hey guys I'm stuck between starting tara and zoraida, can anyone give me a run down? Im really not sure who I'd like better

>>54755441
What faction would you prefer expanding into?

>>54755441
Zoraida tries to make use of her AP by feeding it to her minions to control the board by having more potent AP usage
Tara uses guild marshalls to bury all of the things and control the board that way

>>54755027
Ref: Yan lo's beard.

>>54755711
Nope. Yan Lo's beard is simple as long as you dry-fit because you need to shave (heh) a bit from the tip that goes in. The real assholes from that box are the Ashigaru, deceptively nasty to build for such simple models.

>>54755966
I thought they went together either than the beard. I might just have stupid man hands.

>>54745949
None particularly fit into the Lycnh strategy, but there's so many.
Torakage, Archers, Sidir, Wastrels, Brothers, Fermented River Monks, Monks of High River, Tengu, Lone Swordsman, Obsidian Oni, Shadow Emmisary, Rail Workers, Oiran, Fuhatsu, Ototo.

One way or another these models benefit from the free discarding of aces.

>>54749926
>>54749926
Seem like 'value' in a way that is situationally amazing but never generally good.
The models better fucking gain flight though, holy shit.

I'm sad about the Quellers, I just wanted people who looked like the witchling handlers, but had a classic harry potter-esque wand in one hand, runed sword in the other. Instead, weird engineers :(

>>54758474
Thanks for the list. I will have to try running Ototo with Lynch some day.

>>54758546
Yeah, quite a few of the recent models have been disappointingly over the top or outright goofy. Which doesn't really fit anyone but Gremlins.

>>54758639
I think that the quellers at least make sense. They aren't any crazier than the death marshals, but as was pointed out they don't really fit in with the other witch hunters. Guys like the charm warders on the other hand are pretty dumb. They need to get their new artist to stick to a few models rather than having her design the entire model range in a book.

>>54758700
>sense. They aren't any crazier than the death marshal
I honestly hate the new flaming skull marshalls.

They were already seen undead gunslingers who tote literal coffins into battle to capture foes. But it was just wasn't cool enough, so they all need to be mini ghost riders too.

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>>54758700
>They need to get their new artist to stick to a few models rather than having her design the entire model range in a book.
Yuuuuuuup.
Good artist, maybe a little out of their depth working sixty-odd character models up to ready-to-CAD stage.
Also, did no-one check her style before they gave her the whole book to design?
Some of the models her styl suits, some very much do not.

>>54758819
Same. I liked them a lot more when they looked like the dude from the cover of Deadlands.

>>54761805
I feel like weird is getting further away from the "less is more" sure if a lot of the older models.

I liked that a lot of the old metal masters had relaxed poses, not everything is an over exaggerated action pose, like Lady J.
Maybe I'm just a grognard, but "kooky" stuff like>>54760212 is a turn off.

>>54758597
Well, Ototo isn't super synergy- just free Flurry. Many are like that.

But over a whole list these things can add up, exactly as getting 7 free discard effects a turn sounds like it would.

>>54758639
Over the top is an symptom of the game's design in general, I'd say. So rarely do they release models with simple clarity of design (and ease of painting). More details, more big, more epicly kooky.

>>54745949
>>54758474
>>54758597
>>54763350
A neat trick is pairing Huggy with other Terrifying models. Obey someone into another unit's terrifying range (Yin, Ama, Illuminated), and cheat in an ace for their duel, essentially paralyzing them by winning one duel. You can do the same with Ama no Zako and Huggy's Terrifying, though at that point itll cost you masks/stones.

>>54758819
>Doesn't like mini-Ghost Riders.

>>54763545
I thought that was errata'd away.

>>54763675
I don't like them either.

>>54764065
Can't find anything on that anywhere, and no reason it should be. Huggy and Ama can't obey units into their own terrifying since they're friendly to those models specifically, but others are fair game.

>>54763675
Seriously hate them. They're more WEIRD West as opposed to Weird WEST, of that makes sense.

>>54764176
I checked too, and it looks like I was wrong. That's a pretty crazy strong combo.

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>>54763675
>>54764101
>>54764469
>They're more WEIRD West as opposed to Weird WEST
Also don't particularly like.
I know I'm at risk of sounding a bit too grimdark etc., but I much prefer the serious-tone lower-fantasy angle to the magiclol parts.
Gremlins plz go.

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>>54765329
That pose is so awkward.

I'm alright with a single joke faction, I think

>>54766104
Old guild guard are best guild guard

>>54768562
Agreed. I don't even play guild, but I picked up Lucius' box for them and his old sculpt.

>>54768581
Too bad they are shit in game
(The guard that is)

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Best thing about Guild Guard is using them as decoration on other models

>>54768865

The Wendigo sure seems to think so.

It is kinda funny how Guild Guard get better after dying, given Guild Autopsies have better relevant stats.

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>>54769882
They really are bafflingly crap though.
You have to be crap to be Book 1 models that weren't even played after Book 2.

>>54769882
Yeah it's not sad that guild recruitment standards are that low.

>>54771735

And they were only played during Book 2 because they weren't released until Lucius' box!

So, I want to get the Alt huggy to see what he looks like in person. While I like the old one a lot figure I might as well get it as I love playing Lynch. Got into 10thunder lately, should I get any of the new one's coming out? I really like Tanuki in general.

>>54773999
Assuming everything keeps in line with the rules we've last seen...

If you're into Lynch, Gwyneth is amazing. Frees up a lot of Lynch and Huggy's AP, though you're at that point kinda tied to playing Brilliance. 2x7 + 9 + 1 + 5 would be about your average starting kit. That leaves you with 20 SS for other upgrades, models and cache.

Charm Warders can be really great with especially Misaki and Yasunori. Cruisemissiles really. Fun but not really something you'd want all the time.

Tanuki are shit. Then again, the trichi are shit so I guess they're consistent.

The Crime Bosses are decent mid-priced brawlers. I could see myself taking one with masters that are low on cards.

Lotus Eaters I really don't know. They're anti-schemers so that alone makes them a fairly pick that can be countered by even just accident, though their Bully and Wp duels can allow them to tie up some bigger beaters.

And the statue is just not quite there. He'd seem nice with Mei Feng or Asami but once you're up against opponents who know they're better off not prodding him he's essentially a smoke marker on steroids. Duel targetting Wk is nice though. But then again, Df3.

>>54774131
You are definitely right about the statue. I was thinking that with Metal Gamin infiltrated over he could be better, but that means taking precious rocks away from more useful models like the emissary, porkchop, and Toshiro.

I am very happy about Gwyneth personally. I am definitely going to focus on Brilliance more often when running Lynch. I might even consider her for Asami as she makes getting the right cards easier.

>>54774351
I just wish she'd give a boost to brillianced models outside of Lynch. I saw the idea of using her and one Illuminated with McCabe for a killy tagteam. Can't quite imagine her outside of Lynch as she is now though.

>>54774131
>And the statue is just not quite there.
I think it'll depend a lot on what sort of maps you play on, but unless there's a lot of choke points to suck him in it's probably not worth it. I'm interested to see what the model end up looking like

Thoughts on using the Kamaitachi over the peasants with Shenlong? I honestly love the idea of having the peasants give out focus and place scheme markers, but I have seen the Kamaitachi get a lot of use.

>>54774463
That might be a nice idea were it not for the fact that peasants are 2 activations for 2 SS. And no amount of card draw, pushes or heals can match that, especially since Shenlong already has those three things bursting out his ass as is.

>>54774131
Sad to hear Tanuki don't have the balls (hah) to be decent. Crime Bosses looked cool but i've already got more then enough beaters. Might look into Gwyneth and the Charm Warders then and call it a day. Thanks!

What's everyone's thought on the new outcast models?

>>54775296
I took part in the playtest for a while before it was made public, so although I didn't get to actually PLAYtest anything I've looked at the cards a LOT

>Talos
Looks like the most fun to me, although a tad difficult to use. Aggressive bury Tara is going to be hella fun next wave ;) and Talos slots right into that style of play. Slightly shit that he messes with Glimpse the Void, but order of activation was already huge with Tara. Karina can help make sure the thing he buries will immediately die as well which is nice to ensure his survival

>Freikorps Engineer
Not as janky as it could be (it's strengthen armour specifically states it only works on armour +1, so no adding rams on the Strongarm for example) but still pretty good IMO. Card draw is always nice, but it's not the easiest to get going. Another source of cracked is nice to have as well, and suits the 'support role' of the Engineer

>Benny Wolcomb
Dogshit with Parker, almost zero synergy outside of having the Drop It trigger. His ability to convert enemy scheme markers near Vermin is nice, but how many Vermin are you taking with Parker? His synergy is nice (great even with Hamelin, who I think will really get use out of him) but with Parker it's anti-synergistic

>Prospector
Godlike, for it's cost it does so much for the crew. Potentially adding soulstones is great, the push towards scheme markers speeds it up (not that it's especially slow at Wk5). As a damage dealer there's not much to write home about (talking about shafts comboed with I've struck soulstone is nice if you get the damage, although the control is waaaaaay better) but as a control model it's amazing. Counter-scheming with appraise(which might hopefully end up being able to give you soulstones, it's something that was spoken about a lot in the playtest) and the ability to pull enemies out of position is quite simply awesome. I'd happily pay merc tax for them in certain crews as well

And that's word limit, rest soon

>>54775296
>>54775529
>Marlena Webster
Another of the Wave 5 choices that is pretty amazing, this one being the Inquisitive Child from Divergent Paths. Steadfast Protector makes her a pretty nasty counter-schemer, and 'her' melee attack has a nice damage spread, her ranged attack is baller as fuck, the summoning option is there (although I wouldn't use it much) but the real star is her 0 action. Gives the leader much more survivability, especially if you can heal up Marlena when it happens. Great for someone like Vik of Ashes or Misaki that are pretty flimsy, even Tara makes good use of it.

>Midnight Stalker
Honestly, this is the one I just couldn't seem to click with. He fucks around with activation order, and you have a serious decision of when to activate him (which is really nice from a tactical POV). He seems like a nice tarpit, or more accurately a way to bog down enemy scheme runners and stop them scoring (Notice a pattern here?) but he can also dish out a stack of damage

Those are my opinions, I'd take them with a grain of salt but it's up to you to decide how you see them

>>54768865
>>54769882
>>54772769
Man I feel like guild guards are the most cowboy things in Malifaux. I hate hearing that they are not any good. I've been watching Wynnona Earp and I want to play with little demon slaying cowboys now.

>>54775783

I feel Parker Barrows' crew easily blows them out of the water, as far as wild west aesthetic goes.

>>54775529
I think the engineer is going to be real popular. Unless they change the wording it's a 6 ss model that can give itself a 3/4/6 damage spread on a ranged attack and add card draw.

>>54775817
Perdita and Co are pretty high up there too.

>>54776559
I'm definitely going to get use out of the Engineer, pretty hyped for Schill in general next wave. Doesn't put him anywhere near my 2 favourites to play though, which are Tara and Parker

>>54776682
I really like the friekorps, but I was disappointed with Von Schill himself as a master.

I'll be interested to see how his new upgrade turns out.

Anyone ever played Throught the Breach before?
Thoughts, opinions, anything?

Would love to get my friends into the game as I really enjoy the mechanics from a pure theoretical viewpoint.

How do you guys decide how many Soulstones to keep open after hiring? I'm new to this, so how do you decide how many models you want to bring along versus how many Soulstones you want to use for bonuses? Are there any guidelines?

>>54777044
You'll probably be happy with what Schill gets, the artwork from Through the Breach 2nd Ed up earlier in the thread may be related to what he gets. It also might be completely unrelated, you'll have to wait and see ;)

>>54777463
Depends on what you have and what you feel like, playing a summoner, you'll want a full cache, a beatstick master or henchmen will also want lots for damage reduction.

>>54777054
Great fun, but the rules clean--up 2nd ed is gonna provide, is much needed, since it's pretta easy to powergame.

>>54778239
Yeah, I'm currently going through the 2nd ed book and there seem to be a lot of small details and especially the magical theories that have been reworked.
And the equipment pages are much easier to digest.

>>54777463
It depends on who I'm running, but most of the time I try for a full or mostly full cache.

>>54777054
I haven't yet, but I do want to run a game or at least a one shot with it.

I've got the 1st Ed books, but I'll probably wait until I can find a PDF of the second ones.

>>54777044
He does have one of the most hilarious interactions in the game, ripping off his shirt a la Hulk Hogan, and then having the Emissary give him a new one each turn.

>>54777463
Generally more is better. Having 4 or less gives so little protection to your masters and henchmen, much less the importance of the card draw each turn, and the ability to try to take the initiative.

>>54778877
it wouldnt happen to be a digital copy of 2nd ed you're looking through, and would be willing to share, would it ?

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>>54777463
>>54780500
>Generally more is better.
Disagree.

If you run a summoner or a wade-in Master, or several tanky henchmen, you may want many.
Otherwise in most factions you could get an extra model, which is extra AP and activations, with those three or four stones.

I occasionally run Colette with 3ss - that's 2ss basic cache and a 49ss list.
Her target numbers are fairly low, she keeps out of the way, the henchman I take most frequently (Cassandra) has a bunch of defensive tech herself.

It will come with experience, but I don't think "7ss cache every game" is the best way to play it.

Try making a note of every time you spend a stone because you .must. hit this Trigger or prevent that damage or get those cards, and spend two minutes at the start of each turn checking the suits and numbers you need your hand for, and think whether you actually .need. to stone for cards to do what you want to do, or you just feel more comfortable with a couple more 8+s in your had.

Before someone says it - yes, Colette does get a free stone for a suit each turn, but that's only important if you let her get hit, or you want to summon Doves.
Don't do those things, don't need stones.

Fluffwise, what is supposed to separate woes from normal spirits and tormented?

>>54782501
I said generally, and I mean it. Some masters and crews don't need many. I almost never give Zorida any extra.

But if your master, or henchmen need guaranteed suits for mug abilities, or defensive bonuses you'll want close to a full pool.

There aren't a whole lot of support/ranged masters that don't need stuits and can comfortably stay back and also aren't running henchmen who need them offensively or defensively.

>>54781353
They haven't put out a PDF of 2E for sale yet yet, just the physical version.

>>54782613
Not a lot. Is more of a tag for crew rated stuff. Iirc woes are neverborn and we're never human. Tormented, like nurses, aren't necessarily dead.

>>54783983

Guild Reporters are Woes, without any indication of being anything but normal humans.

>>54784025
>Guild Reporters are Woes
I don't know what's that about then to be honest.

>>54784025
Iggy is human too

I was thinking about a grow list.

Nekima seems like a must. What else do you normally take? All tots? Shamans? Barbaros?

Lilith? Zorida and Lucius seen look good choices to to move ap around and get more growth triggers.

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>>54783897
Fair point, I just got told a whole bunch when I started, from alls orts of sources, that taking a full cache was really the best idea.
In my case at least, it led to lazy play, as you've always got that damage reduction, you can rely on that trigger etc.

>>54784807
Two or three Tots and a couple of Young Nephilim, with Lillitu to drag something in to crush.
As I understand it Tangled Shadows is the 'classic' meat delivery method, but Lady Z could work.

>>54785008
>In my case at least, it led to lazy play, as you've always got that damage reduction, you can rely on that trigger etc.
I know what you mean.

I've been ending a lot of games with 2-4 soul stones left.

I'm not sure if I should cut them, or just leave them as a custom as a cushion for when chance is again me.

>>54785735
Playing TT my base cache averages at around 2. I can't spare 5 SS when that could go to more models/recalled trainings. 3 is really the most SS I leave for cache and that only with Mei and Asami.

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>>54785735
>I've been ending a lot of games with 2-4 soul stones left.
>I'm not sure if I should cut them
Cut one or two, spend one or two.

If you're finishing with two, that's an upgrade you could have had.
If you're finishing with four, that's a whole activation.

Minimum, it's forcing through a trigger on something.

I had to really force myself not to hoard stones, but I think I end up not only relying on them less, but finding myself in positions where I would need them less.

If I'm pretty sure I won't need all of them, it can be worth spending a stone to put a nasty trigger into the equation.
Even if you know they have that twelve to block it, just force them to spend it - then you can be sure you can force something else through later in the turn.

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Whatdo folks bring Kaeris out for?

What pools is she "for"?

I have Mei for the hitty-ish sets, and Colette for the hardcore interacty/ scheme markery stuff.

She's my next pick up because the model's so nice, and the gamin are probably handy.

>>54788905
Kaeris is "for" games you don't take too seriously and don't go into with the desire to win.

>>54788905

unfortunately this >>54789031

Hopefully the new upgrades give her a leg up. If not, here's hoping for an errata fix.

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>>54789031
>>54789210
Yes yes yes very good, she's shit and sub-optimal and poorly balanced for her abilities and there are better Masters to play in every pool.

Now that we've got that out of the way:

What is she for?

Am I looking for loads of scheme marker schemes?
Grab and Drop seems pretty good.

Area-holding?
Being able to fly people around seems pretty handy.

Assuming I'm going to play Kaeris, and I am going to play Kaeris, what would be the dream Strat and Scheme?

>>54786754
I would agree with you for Mei, but for Asami I find that having a nearly full cache is important. Even for Misaki I think that having a high cache in order to get off misdirection is a good idea.

>>54778877
Nah, I tend to buy my books in paperback format still.

>>54782613
>>54782613

They are neverborn, native monsters of malifaux who have chosen to take form to feed on the negative emotions of the invaders.

The nephilim are a race with fixed forms who live lives that are relatively understandable. They eat, they mate, they feel emotions. Other neverborn are far more....abstract compared to humans.

>>54784025
Yeah that's weird. Not like hot Lawyers were beasts 1st Edition (lol). You can think of it as being on the edge of the definition. Journalists try to feed on negative emotions and attack the mind (reputation), like how Lawyers are mimics in that they adapt to their role required in the courtroom - they will prosecute or defend regardless of the guilt or morality of their client.

>>54788905
She can be quite an effective ranged crew, with fire gamin doing 3 damage on weak (2 and 1 burning), and her own shooting blasting away.

So, not schemes and strats where you need to hold a central point or get into the opponent's half.

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New player that's just reading up on some of the masters.
I'm curious, how did Leveticus get nerfed. did his damage track get lowered or what happened specifically ?

>>54797722
He can now only get one free + to attack and damage a turn in the form of focus. Previously he could get it on every attack. He also lost a 1 SS from his cache.

>>54797722
Cache lowered to 1
His take 2 wounds to gain positive flips reduced to once a turn.

>>54797722
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54fe412ce4b0c449f7369857/t/58dd23bc03596edd8bf95493/1490887613000/M2E+FAQ+%26+Errata+%28March+2017%29.pdf

Here's the full FAQ and errata, the end shows all the changes that have been made.

Previously people had pdfs of each model in each faction, including all upgrades (that were updated to current errata), any idea where they went? You'd think they'd be in the mega file.

>>54798774
https://www.wyrd-games.net/malifaux-faq-errata/

There's always just the official site.

GG 2018 WHEN ?

>>54798968
Public beta after gencon.

>>54789287
She's not for anything. She's mediocre at dealing damage, her mobility is just a little above average, and her damage dealing requires a lot of setup for mediocre damage. Her limited upgrades are potential liabilities and require absurd amounts of tripping over your own feet to get activation order correct. She's incredibly reliant on the emissary, but that clogs up her activations even worse.

And for new upgrades, every time she was given something cool in the play test people cried until it was made bad again, because "it invalidates her old upgrades." Yes, people argued that her new upgrades had to be bad because her old upgrades were bad.

She has no real role, no place, and nothing to do. She makes a very attractive second master in a 100ss game where you don't mind dedicating her entire turn to drawing six cards but if she's your only master you can't afford to be screwing around like that.

>>54799135
Is there a noticable difference between the playtesters and the general fucking around on the public beta forum? Something about signing up via the forum feels like it'd attract a certain kind of asskissy people.

Lady J's upgrade seemed like something she needed though. Was Kaeris an outlier and have most weaker masters been given something to pull them up a bit (while stronger masters have been given alternative playstyles rather than buffs)?

>>54799253
>have most weaker masters been given something to pull them up a bit
We don't know yet. The new upgrades don't come out for a week or so.

>>54799253
There was, during the test, people who said Kaeris adding an additional burning was broken. These same people demanded Somer gain the ability to discard a card in place of friendly models taking damage for reckless and defended a henchman you could never break engagement with (even with placement) who had retaliatory strikes and summoning.

The shoddy testing groups is how we ended up with the mess that is gremlins. Idiots who play one game a month outnumber competitive players and their ideas get the attention.

>>54800067
>that henchman
Tell me more.

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Has anybody an idea for an interesting base for the old Ramos?
Also I hate flybases, but am building up Malifaux-raptors...I want to build something Colette-like to stand on it... any ideas therefor?

>>54800556
>Raptors
You could have them taking off/landing on stage props. Like a hat on top of a stool.

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>>54800556
I'm just going to have my (plastic) Mechanical Doves trailing coloured ribbons as flight stands.
At the moment the wing spars are painted Red/Green/White to colour-code my doves, so they will be trailing 1-3 ribbons of the same colour.

The Raptors seem easiest to put on a tree branch or something, unless you want to go with very fine wire.

>>54800067
>>54799135
>playtesters
Well, that's annoying as fuck, both as the prospective Kaeris player and a Malifaux player in general.
Doubly so regarding Kearis because she's such a fucking cool model.

>Idiots who play one game a month outnumber competitive players and their ideas get the attention.
I've never really understood why the playtesting was open in the first place.
That was a guaranteed effect of listening to everyone, and it isn't like Wyrd don't already have a huge network of community contacts through which to cherry-pick people to test things.

>>54800556
Place him in a pillar of kogs which have protrusions of mechanical claws from it.
Place 1 Raptor atop a mirror from which something is coming out. Another flying from the mirror. Well, another getting "birth" from the remains of a broken mirror, and thus looking half-glass half-actual creature.
Just post what you did if you brave yourself to accept this challenge, cupcake.

>>54800890
Kaeris and her crew design were what brought me into Malifaux. As a noob i dont know if she is weak or not, but nevertheless i would like all masters to be viable, if LITTLE, i repeat, LITTLE situational.

>>54800890
The playtesting for the master upgrades at least was closed.

>>54800890

Tara was a closed playtest, and look how well that worked out.

>>54800822
This is what I thought of. Like the ropes backstage for curtains.

>>54800941
I don`t think I am brave enough, because I want one raptor to match more with my other crews, but I realy like the mirror idea^^ lets see if i can sculpt a mirror

and also thanks to all replys

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Any of the penny dreafull oneshots that are particularily fun in your opinions ?
I've volunteered to relief our forever-DM for a session or two.

>>54801445
I bet you can do it, cupcake. Also you are Arcanist. So with Raptor sitting on the mirror while someone going from - it is sort of Arcanist-themed.

The Arcanist faction theme is "shit, I can't possibly base this model in a way thematic to all the Masters I'd use it with".

>>54801900
There's a puppet one,i forget the name. No strings attached? It's amazing

>>54801360
It was closed to players. Basically any henchman could apply.

I'm not sure if you've talked to any henchmen lately, but they're generally lower tier players who focus on the cool and fun aspects.

Not that it's a problem, because their job is to organize events and help players get involved. That's not the players you want working on the cutting edge of development.

>>54802236
You are absolutely wrong, sir.
Arcanist faction theme is MAGIC. Mechanical magic, elemental magic, wild magic - take your pick!
So you rather think which base you want for a certain model. Either it be "vanilla-themed" like magma and stuff for Emberling, or maybe it should be like born from the pool of molten metal, and thus be painted with metal colors and stuff with the "insides" being painted like magma and base being like a leftovers of railroad tracks.
Or, say, Marcus. You can make it "in da wilds mon!" themed simply standing on a rock or something, or you could give his eyes a glow, add the orange (for me orange is a good colour for wild magic he mastered) leylines on his skin like tatoos, and he himself standing in thicket, shadowed by its twigs and radiating the primordial power.

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thats what i have come up till now

>>54802510

I was joking, but non-sarcastic kudos for that response. Well put dude.

>>54802236
>tfw sandy badlands bases
>Marcus' stuff gets more plants
>Raspy' stuff gets snow on the grass tufts
>M&SU stuff gets minecart rails or random parts strewn around
>Colette's stuff gets dilapidated wooden stage floor with some sand on it (and the usual sparse plants growing here and there)
>Kaeris' stuff gets their grass singed by fire

Eh, I manage.

>>54802723
Whos awesome? You are awesome!
>>54802729
Oh well, i am bad at reading sarcasm.

>>54802744
thanks, but I don`t think I will finish the mission and make 3 of these^·^

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Now the assembled raptor

>>54803010
No, he can be like sitting on top of the mirror. Not like i dont like the idea of that pose, its really cool.
On top of that you can add the hat and sparks going off it, like he is flying off the hat.

>>54803752

New thread

>>54683797
>>54683953

That's what their nightmare crew boxes has been since 2e