Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1647: Magic Pudding Edition

Jumping is so much slower when you force yourself to adhere to a writing goal with the Alt-chain builder.

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And a discord link for those interested.

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>>54630522
Preach it, sans the Alt-Chain bit. Haven't really tried using it before.

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Really makes you think.

>>54630538
Nobody is. Also bancho lives there.

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What is the best source of magic to learn? From what I've seen DC magic seems to just be a sort of reality warping and thus the most ideal to go for.

>>54630467
It is from The Rising of Shield Hero. A completely translated LN and being translated manga.

>>54630553
DC or Marvel Magic.
Umineko magic

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>>54630508
You thought I wouldn't know that reference, but I do. My tenth Jump for this new Chain is going to be a trip.

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>>54630522
Welcome to the world of details, multimonth long writeups for a single Jump are a background threat similar in nature to Cthulhu, unlikely but too likely for comfort.

>>54630574
I thought that was a cake till I clicked on it.

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>>54630508
...Where can I get magic pudding?

>>54630553
Well if you take leaky emitter in mushoku tensei you can eventually do anything.

Hero bbs magic is basically bullshittium, make your own system.

Dc and marvel are both cool.

Dnd is also cool.

DXD magic is based on math but you can buy a completely custom system to do whatever you want.

Magicka magic is also able to do whatever the fuck you want at high levels, one wizard basically broke the world while locked up simply by repeating cheatcodes in his head. And it doesnt need mana.

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>>54630551

>>54630602
Almost certainly Adventure Time.

>>54630553
I'd go with magic from Marvel over DC, what with the "price" DC magic apparently always has.

But honestly, it comes down to taste. There's loads of magic systems, and it depends on how and what you want to do.

>>54630553
DC's powerful, but it's a malicious bastard that takes the most asshole interpretation of "magic always has a price".

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>>54630522
I know that pain as well! But the writing can be rewarding.

>>54630601
It does look like a cake in thumbnail form. I hadn't noticed that. Have more delicious treats.

>>54630602
Mother. You're going to have to go into the land of your own subconscious to get them though. And fight a Kraken.

But they are delicious.

>>54630565
So he has a loli waifu that's actually a bird?

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>>54630633

>>54630642
Marvel has a similar problem in that the impressive stuff requires invoking magical beings that will keep track of the debt you owe them.

>>54630671
The MC is a Jerk with a Heart of Gold so he doesn't acknowledge her as such but basically yes she tries to assert herself to be something like that.

>>54630538
Everybody is. Also [Popular Jumpmaker] lives there.

>>54630671
Yes. http://the-rising-of-the-shield-hero.wikia.com/wiki/Filo

>>54630622
On that topic, would you happen to already have some systems for Hero BBS in mind?

I plan on writing out a descripton for my round trip through the local multiverse so I've been bullshitting up some magical systems to wax poetic about. But I've only got the start for 3 which is pretty pitiful for what's meant to be a globetrotting journey.

>>54630743
I miss red...

>>54630747
Cute.

>>54630738
Ah, he's one of those harem MCs that won't touch any of his girls. What a gay.

>>54630774
But she still lives.

>>54630795
>Ah, he's one of those harem MCs that won't touch any of his girls. What a gay.

Not really, he was betrayed by a girl not even a day after he was summoned to the world and after that he...became warped I guess you could say, he couldn't even taste the food he ate because of his hate.

I probably messed up somewhere on explaining it but I tried.

>>54630769
Not really, Im a heavy enchanting jumper, I like crafting stuff and using bullshit brute force magic just handwave and push massive amoubts of mana into it or go really hard into the meticulous details and build it right.

>>54630795
>Ah, he's one of those harem MCs that won't touch any of his girls. What a gay.
It's actually not that he's too nice like your typical virginal harem MC. Rather, the excuse for him being this big tough wish-fulfillment badass type is that he was betrayed by the princess of the kingdom he was isekai'd into and framed for rape, so now he hates all women. So he sees their advances as them just trying to take advantage of him. This is basically Fedora Tipper: The Light Novel.

>>54630795
>harem protag doesn't realise he has a harem
>thinks he just has a lot of female friends
>when someone finally gets that idea through his dense head, he protests that he's gay
>anime/manga starts at that point

...I'd watch that.

>>54630799
Yeah but she never posts from the cat bin anymore.

Is there anything that lets you use summons from other jumps (other than the stupidly expensive one in NGNL)? I want to build a huge rolodex with Seeker of Names from Anima so I have a summon for everything.

>>54630769
It helps to read lots of Japanese fantasy manga/novels, since the series is meant to be poking fun at them.

But really most of the BBS magic seems to have a pretty persistent set of gimmicks. Personal MP, a mix of math and emotion-based casting, some game-system worlds, lots of magic circles.

>>54630799
No she isn't.

Bitch finally necked herself.

>>54630706
Unless you are a magical being. For example, Magik. I think she is technically both a mutant and part demon now?

>>54630861
She's a mutant demon on steroids thanks to eating limbo, telling Dormamu to fuck off and absorbing his power and having a stupid fucking power up from becoming an avatar for the Phoenix.

>>54630890
Might be wrong about that absorbing Dormammu bit but she did kick his ass.

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>>54627285
Non OC?

There's the one woman in Skyrim's Dawnguard.

There's Seras & Girlycard from Hellsing

I think we have an Underworld jump, so the MC is probably available.

Overlord has Shalltear Bloodfallen, she's a gothic lolita vampire. She's into lots of kinky stuff.

>>54630861
Yeah, but even then Magic mostly uses ambient magic and Invocations. And even fucking Dormammu calls on other magical beings because their specialized spells like the Bands of Cyttorak is always the best. The only ones who don't really call on others are gods. And people like Wiccan who have a natural connection to incredibly powerful beings/energy sources.

>>54630915
>Girlycard
Isn't... isn't that gay?

Are there any perks that can neutralize that caveat of most luck perks being just luck with the potential for things to go wrong? Like, a way to make your luck always apply?

>>54630915
>Shalltear Bloodfallen
Tell me more.

>>54630935
It's not like s/he's got a dick at the time.

>>54630823
Sounds like he needs to calm down.

>>54630833
So he's a /r9k/.

>>54630795
Part of the issue was that he got royally burned out on trust since apparently everyone hates the Shield Hero in this kingdom and keeps betraying him. The other part of it is that his harem consists entirely of lolis (and one former loli that magically grew up) that need to be protected. Shield Hero is pretty normal for not wanting to bang little girls.

>>54630935
Given just how many things Alucard has eaten... I doubt you could name something it isn't.

>>54630553
Dota magic is fairly open-ended in regards to what it can do given knowledge and study.

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>>54630942
>It's not like s/he's got a dick at the time.
Allegedly.

>>54630935
If there's no dick, it's not gay.
Unless you're a girl.

>>54630963
>that magically grew up
And due to his mindbreak, he still saw her as the loli she was anyway.

>>54630963
I'd consider 'normal' a criticism.

>>54630963
It must be hard being an anime loli. Nobody wants to fuck you except faceless fat old men and other lolis.

>>54630936
>can I have a perk that makes luck perks not be luck
what

>>54630936
Yes. It's called "just write your jumps that way."

>>54630915
Dawnguard girl enjoys getting raped by monsters, avoid her.

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>>54630974
>My Jumper's Face When

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>>54630942
>Tell me more.
watch the leech mouth

>>54630935
>There isn't a person alive who could conceptualize my sexual preference.

>>54631015
Yeah that is the only reason I never chose that as my race there.

>>54630996
At least you're popular with the audience.

>>54631003
Yeah? It's called a combo.

>>54630986
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. And then of course there's the whole cursed shield thing making him even nuttier so that doesn't help.

>>54630988
I'm pretty sure the average person doesn't wanna bang a little girl, Shield Knight fits into that mold as far as I know.

>>54630936
No, because then it wouldn't be luck. That's intrinsic to the concept of good luck that things won't necessarily work, they're just likely to. What you want is some sort of perfect Mary Sue things never go wrong ever power. Which we probably have, somewhere or other, but I don't know where.

>>54630855
Maybe the Nanoha Summoner perk? It might not work across jumps though, ask Heavens.

>>54631077
You missed my point.

Him being average is a bad thing. I consider it a criticism to call him average, and it being a negative trait if true.

>>54631067
Luck is luck, luck perks tip the odds in your favor, if there are no odds of failure then it's not luck anymore.

Where's the jojo stand supplement again? I can't find it in the drive

>>54630855
Tales of Phantasia has one, I believe. I don't know what the Nanoha one is priced at but this one is a capstone so curb your enthusiasm.

Your bait is weak, old man.

>>54631077
>I'm pretty sure the average person doesn't wanna bang a little girl, Shield Knight fits into that mold as far as I know.
Correct. He wants to abuse little girls, but not sexually. Naofumi isn't getting off on it when he projects his hatred for women onto his slaves (oh yeah, his harem is made of slaves, by the way) and mistreats them horribly, he's just psychologically unbalanced because the evil goddess that rules the world specifically selected worthless creeps to summon as the heroes so that they'll be extra susceptible to psychological torture. Now Medea, she gets off on it when she breaks the spirits of people who thought they were the protagonist.

>>54631137
Isekai was a mistake.

>>54631101
What, why? Everyone has average traits. The average person likes icecream. The average person is right handed. What are you wanting exactly???

>>54631034
I wouldn't call being popular with the invisible, omnipresent watchers beyond reality who dictate whether my world continues or ends in mysterious ways an-well alright, when you put it THAT way.

I'm just saying, the one upside about becoming a christmas cake is no longer having to bear the responsibility of being existence's support pillar.

>>54631127
On the off chance this isn't bait: it doesn't exist and the jumpmaker is gone. No you can't make your own.

Take a look at the end of the Jorge Joestar jump for some general information about stands, then make one up.

If you try to make omni-god the omni-stand that gives you omnipotence we, or at the very least I, will laugh at you.

>>54630936
Some of the Light classes in Sburb probably could.

I'm fairly certain you can be a Luckstealer or some other prestige class in DnD that gives consious control over applying luck bonuses to rolls.

>>54631116
Stop fucking playing semantics you fucking retard, you know what I fucking mean. I want to make it so that the best possible result that could occur from any given action, call it luck or whatever, will always happen, all the time.

>>54631166
Everyone will...
Also throw eggs at omni-god inside The World.

>>54631181
Oh, hello Mary.

>>54631181
Oh in that case take a look at Elan from Anima Beyond Fantasy. Obtaining perfect synchronicity with Beryl makes all your actions as perfect as they can be.

>>54631181
So you just want to be a mary sue. Okay, just be one. Don't let the rules get in your way.

>>54631166
I don't know that, anyway thanks for the info mate

>>54631181
How Can Luck Be Real If Our Benefactors Aren't Real?

>>54631034
He said faceless fat men already anon.

>>54631137
Holy shit, I dropped out after the evil church cult got beaten and the queen came back, did he turn into a complete monster at some point later on?

I remember the original girl was bought as a slave and he kept up the pretense to let her get away with shit in public, but I don't remember him ever actually treating her like one, or getting other slaves along the way. Only other two girls I remember was the bird girl and the younger princess, and he generally tried to keep them safe (treated the princess like shit since he thought she was in on things with her dad and sister to sell him up the river, but trusted her later).

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>>54630694

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If you got your hands on madaras eyes could you copy their abilities with ultimate being since its a bloodline type thing?

>>54631181
It's not semantics, retard, that's how luck fucking works. What you're describing and wanting is fate to railroad you to victory. It's not luck if there's no chance for anything other than your success.

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>>54630935
Does it matter, anon? Does it really?

>>54631264
What do you mean "early"

>>54630553
>>54630657
DC Occult and Young Justice both have perks that help you eschew or circumvent both the price of magic and some requirements for certain spells. This makes DC magic much more worthwhile.

D&D magic is also good for practically everything once you get to a high enough level.

TES magic is also really good. Conjuration/summoning is fairly safe, and you can make some incredible weapons and armor powered by monster and animal souls.

Geneforge has a special kind of magic that lets you design, create, and modify animals, plants, monsters, and sapient beings.

And the magic from MCU works really good with magitech since it's designed around manipulating space and dimensions, and pulling matter and energy from alternate realities.

>>54631295
Early /jc/ threads were filled with Jumpers fucking their Pokemon at jump 1, not even bothering to import them.

>>54631265
Well, we could, but you can't. Not anymore.

>>54631258
>Holy shit, I dropped out after the evil church cult got beaten and the queen came back, did he turn into a complete monster at some point later on?
No the anon is exaggerating, he actually ends up like a big bro for them. He still acts like a jerk and makes them work for their meals, no free food in this house but still a great guy.

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>>54631306
>Implying lady Jumpers had a chance of keeping their hands off these shredded muppets.

>>54631329
Wait what. Explain, please?

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>>54631329

>>54631341
I thought it was just classic Gardevoir-waifuing.

>>54631366
Not picking Sylveon for ribbon-jobs.

>>54631343
>>54631345
If you ever ask if you can copy a power with Ultimate Being, you lose the ability to copy that power. Didn't you read the notes at the end of the jump?

>>54631366
Ah, it was, I'm just joking. It was mostly basic poke-waifu stuff like Gardevoir and Lopunny. Anon is correct in that there were a lot of pokewaifus in early /jc/ but it was mostly mystery dungeon partners after they got their human forms. Gijinka Waifus were people's shit back then.

>>54631306
You'd fuck a Gardevoir. You know you would.

>>54631400
I would not, but only because that torso spike worries me. Way too many ways for that to go wrong.

Still working on JLU, but I wanted some feedback on this perk that I wrote after thinking about 1-up perks and this one episode that deals with resurrection.
Hereafter [800cp]: Anytime you’re hit by something that would normally completely erase you from existence, either via disintegration, atomization, magical destruction, etc., you will instead be transported… somewhere else. For some reason your enemy misunderstood or miscalculated their attack and the resulting blast has propelled you to a dangerous and desolate place that is somehow suppressing all of your supernatural abilities. Fortunately there is someone of something that can help you escape from here, but the way to your destination is dangerous and even if you manage to reach it you still might be able to leave immediately. Still, if you can get back home you’ll definitely have a long and interesting story to tell people.

>>54631417
Glad to know I wasn't the only one thinking about that.

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Jumpers, how do you do politics in your chain'?

>>54631432
What is with the recent god damn fascination with 800 CP perks.

People.

>>54631306
>Early /jc/ threads were filled with Jumpers fucking their Pokemon at jump 1, not even bothering to import them.

Ew!

I only fuck my Pokemon in their human form.

>>54631384
I can't find the pdf to check at the moment but I get the impression that you're lying, if not I'm glad I'm not the one who asked.

>>54631432
I liked the episode this is based on.

Neat.

>>54631432
I am not sure if I would touch that perk at all, considering I lose all my powers and get stuck in some weird place I might die in.

>>54631447
I'm still trying to decide on the price and whether or not it should be discounted.

>>54631443
Subversion, proxies, diplomacy, coercion and, of course, outright violence.

>>54631443
I've found that the best political system is theocratic despotism devoted to the Unconquered Sun.

I admit that my samples are somewhat biased.

I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing.

>>54631512
Context?

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>>54631512

>>54631417
>What is doggy-style

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>>54631473
Tell me you wouldn't tap pic related.

>>54631512
Welcome to the club, buddy. That's life.

What's up?

>>54631432
Seems like a neat story thing. But not even close to being worth 800cp.

Overall, I'm of the same opinion as >>54631486 though.

>>54631432
That frankly doesn't seem worth it. Like, what's the fucking point?

>>54631432
I would need to see the rest of the jump to see if the 800cp price is balanced. I personally don't think I'd buy it, since I can get similar protections after visiting multiple jumps.

>>54631432
I like the concept but not the total power loss, way too harsh. Even the situation this is based on was solved by the use of powers.

>>54631432
>somehow suppressing all of your supernatural abilities
Eh, I don't know. It's much easier to simply get the ability to survive things like disintegration than having to worry about being hit by a death ray forever.

>>54630936
...Infinicon has a perk that nets you the best result whenever you get below average.

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>>54631516
>>54631523
I just spent three hours getting nowhere on my new jump. I have no idea why I decided to go ahead and try making this nightmare of a jump.

>>54631543
>>54631525
What if it was 600cp and discounted for Drop-In?

>>54631432
>Anytime you would be disintegrated, and only in that specific case, you would instead be stripped of all your perks and teleported into a dangerous place where you could be killed
This isn't worth 300 CP, let alone 800.

>>54631432
As a general thing, I dislike perks that interact with other perks. Especially those that pretty much apply drawback fiat to you forever.

>>54631572
I have erased like three entire perk trees because they made no sense within canon, take a break and look at your notes tomorrow.

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>>54631572

Oh boy I hope it has a follower army supplement

>>54631572
What's the difference in scale between this and your first jump? Trying to jump that gap might be a part of it.

Or is it the amount of information available?

>>54631384
>>54631479
>paranoia makes us look at jump notes
>all we see is

>ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!
ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!

>>54631582
Maybe if you also nix the total power loss. It is a cool perk but all it does it nix a single rare source of death that can be managed in other ways.

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>>54631610

Are you Tau anon?

>>54631570
>Infinicon
Ew. Maybe if I abandoned all standards, but I'd rather just go and bullshit up a solution PS238.

>>54631642
Nope, Genesis. Bible Canon is hard because everyone interprets things fucking different.

>>54631432
Why would anyone pay 800 CP to introduce a permanent- and major- weakness? Someone about to set off a planet-destroying bomb? Just shoot you with an atomizer. And anyone who actually has true, no-joke erasal from existence as part of their capabilities could probably find you and take out the now-mortal jumper with ease.

As long as we're on the topic of Pokemon, how do weights and compositions translate to their human forms?

Wailord is less dense than air, and all that.

>>54631432
It's an 800 cp extra life perk that only works when you're hit by a specific kind of attack, and it strips you of all your powers and has the potential to kill you on top of that. Who would ever go for this? The way this reads, it would even go behind all your other extra life perks. This is less than worthless, taking it is actively detrimental.

>>54631679
They generally don't, because you're giving them a whole new body. It's an alt-form, not a transformation.

>>54631679
Fanwank pretty much. (Measurements aren't consistent across a species anyways) So if you think a Wailord should be a big fat person, makes sense. If you think they're just a really tall, surprisingly lightweight person, cool. Make them a shorty if you want, don't think there necessarily even has to be a translation for how their pokemon form affects human form.

>>54631651
It's also got more plot holes then Harry Potter.

>>54631572
Great Crusade? Will their be an option to be a Solar Auxilla and prove yourself a better fighter and leader than all the Primarchs and Space Marines.

>>54631693
>>54631672
>>54631628
>>54631603
>>54631587
Alight, alight, I get it. I think of something else, or rewrite the perk to make it more useful.

What about these two? They don't cause any drawbacks and they won't be nearly as expensive.
Surprised to See Me? [?cp]: Perk that makes it so you can always find people willing to help you whenever you’re stranded on an alien planet, stuck in the wrong time period, or just find yourself lost in some weird and dangerous place. You could meet a kind old lady who’d help rally the crowd in favor of a captured friend to prevent their death, stumble across the resistance on a hostile alien world, find a group of marines who just happen to be on the same mission you’re on if get sent to the middle of WW2, or even encounter your future self during a mission to restore the timeline.

I’m Gonna Punch A Hole In Your Head [?cp]: You have a warrior mentality, which means you can easily kill criminals and supervillains without hesitation if they deserve it and not be adversely affected. However some of your allies may object to you killing or severely injuring people. Regardless of how often you use lethal force your opponents will always remember you’re capable of it, granting you a major boost to intimidation.

Why is #160 the earliest archived thread? What is /JC/ trying to hide?

>>54631649
You asked for luck boosters, and it's a perk that gets you crit success 50% of the time.

Mind you, there's a reason I put the '...' in there. That'd be me hesitating to mention it cause tera.

>>54631737
That we were lazy and didn't bother to archive things. It is our darkest secret.

>>54631613
>>54631730
Guys...

Reading comprehension goes a long way.
>I just spent three hours getting nowhere on my new jump.
implies no progress.

>>54631737
Thats around the time the archive died all together

>>54631737
You were looking for this >>54631306 right?

>>54631737
That secretly, we were just as shit as we are now.

The secret is NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

>>54631572
>Go to GC
>Make Primaris Marines

>>54631519
I wouldn't tap pic related.

>>54631614
Massive difference in scale. 6 origins plus three sub origins plus 18 sets of Legion perks.

>>54631613
Fuck I knew I was forgetting something.


I think I'm going to try and make a Rogue Trader jump first to gain experience. No one has claimed it right?

>>54631737
Is it? Too bad, the first 100 or so threads were chaotic as shit. They'd probably be pretty entertaining to look back on just because of how violently opinionated everyone was.

>>54631756

I know anon, I was giving him an idea

>>54631735
I find the first perk's second sentence really confusing, so no idea for that one.

The second perk 100 or 200 cp.

>>54631801
>Rogue Trader
...I can't say for certain, but didn't Kanons say he was going to retool Imperium to Rogue Trader after Deathwatch came out?

>>54631772
Not in particular, but I would have found it interesting to see early /JC/ culture.

Yes. Very much.

>>54631801
>Rogue Trader jump

Nope

>>54631826
That was retooling it to be Only War. I know someone else claimed Deathwatch.

>>54631737
All of the threads are archived on 4plebs.

>>54631801
>No one has claimed it right?
Nope, there have been Rogue Trader origins considered for jumps based on specific books but a dedicated Rouge Trader jump is open and available to be claimed.

Looking forward to it.

>>54631844
...Right. Should have known that.

Since y'know I'm the one fucking doing Deathwatch.

>>54631851
>>54631837
What about Dark Heresy?

Might try and do both first before moving back towards the Great Crusade.

Whats the quickest/easiest way to kill jenova in ff7?

And would cloud be a good husbando for daughteru?

>>54631801
>Massive difference in scale. 6 origins plus three sub origins plus 18 sets of Legion perks.

Yikes. Yeah, a bit heavy for jump #2, but kudos for ambition. Far as I know, nobody has a claim on Rogue Trader quite yet.

>>54631826
I thought it was going to be Only War?

And Ancilla has Deathwatch, far as I remember on Skype.

>>54631863
>Since y'know I'm the one fucking doing Deathwatch.
Hows it coming?

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>>54631828
I once used the time travel train to go back into the early days of /JC/. It's as though I were walking in the trenches. Complete with the downpour of salt causing human corpses and refuse to surface from the posts about Philosopher's Stones and a constant argument over what was OP and what wasn't.

And while things were sort of the same back then in terms of salt and arguing, it was a little bit...louder, I wanna say?

>Tfw I realize I've been here for over a year, and the community has existed for about 2-3 years

All I did was shitpost a Heaven's Lost Property jump into existence out of boredom. And to headpat Nymph. What have I done

>>54631886
You done did good, kid.

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>>54631156
His averageness is causing him to ignore cute waifus. It can't stand.

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>>54631866
what about a mechanicus jump? maybe that would be easier?

>>54631799
Let me guess, you're still in the double-digits of jumping?
When you hit the hundreds, experimentation is bound to happen.

>>54631848
Found them. Early threads use a different title formula.

>>54631181
Synchronicity wave traveling

>>54631942
What's the old formula?

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>>54631885
>internally screaming
I seriously am trying to figure out a way to make it so there isn't a dedicated 'marine that uses weapons' origin since all marines have an equal hack at that in the game and lore, but without making all of the origins some flavor of specialization.

Other than that, the only intimidating thing is how many fucking pages of content there are.

>>54631873
Hi >>54631863

>>54631942
What formula?
I want to look back on them too.

>>54631519
Not until after I get an art style perk from somewhere like Panty & Stocking. Art can make things look cute when in reality they would be horrifying.

Is there any way to make my "base" mind permanent? So that if I take an origin with memories spanning millennia, the don't overwrite my personality?

>>54631996
Don't Ever Change from KH

>>54631996
Yes, several. My favorite is Heart of a Child from Chronicles of Narnia, which preserves an essential "you-ness" no matter what changes might happen. Combine with infinite memory perks so that your others don't get crowded out by the new ones, and you'll be fine.

>>54631965
>>54631977
It seems like the only thiing tying the early ones together is the word "Jumpchain" in the subject bar. (Sort with oldest posts first)

This is the first post that I could find related to it:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/33546775/

This is the first official "Thread":
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/34040029/#34040029

>>54632055
To think that we were better off with that version of Reborn.

>>54632074
If only you had killed yourself back then.

>>54632055
>Red

Disgusting how long she's stuck around

>>54631432
>>54631735
>Alight, alight, I get it. I think of something else, or rewrite the perk to make it more useful.
Might work to just have it throw you into the future as you are instead, like in the episode itself? With getting back left as an exercise for the jumper.

>Surprised to See Me?
Seems good. Standard fare for superheroes thrust into alien places, but realistically unlikely. Probably either 200 or maybe 300/400, depending on the rest of the jump?

>I’m Gonna Punch A Hole In Your Head
Cool. Probably 100cp, maaaybe 200?

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>>54632084

So, looking at the new version of Worm, is it not possible to do the mass import thing to collect all powers anymore?

>>54632074
>>54632084

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ScFgA0Rqlw

You see this bandicoot?
This is you.

>>54632136
Unfortunately no, there were a few other unfortunate changes but that was the worst. Still the new origins are nice.

>>54632136
Just another nerf from Worm_Anon, yes.

>>54632136
That was never possible. The number of companions you can import has been sharply restricted though, yes.

>>54632136
Is it really a problem? You can still basically pick any 9 powers you want which is more than enough to get all the good ones.

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>>54632147
That made me laugh harder than it should have. Damn it, I'm trying to write Anon!

I remember that level. That level can suck so many of my lower appendages.

>>54631967

Post WIP

>>54632194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1CdPxXEzoo

Digger, any chance the following could be answered? Asked two threads ago, how dare you do things like sleep and not hover to answer?
>>54619147

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>>54632055
Ah, good memories... Don't forget; you're here forever.

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Anyone currently working on a Psyren jump?

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So am I the only one who is a sucker for family companion options? Like Brother Mine in Nier Automata for example.

>>54632326
To think it's been that long.

>>54632345
Val is too, why do you think she likes adding them?

>>54632136
All the powers you could ever need

Path to Victory
Boogie Manimal
Complete Arsenal
Warp Spasm
Contractor
Iterative Improvement
Enhanced Mastery
Quantum Evolution

You don't need any more than a regular import to get them all.

>>54632055
Ah, back when everyone was so moral.

>>54632413
Do you even Tinker?

What's a good perk or combination of perks that would allow one to act as a conduit for magic from other universes? Basically I want to teach my companions magic from worlds they weren't imported into, but I'd rather not just use straight power copying perks, because that feels a little too easy to me. Essentially I want to act as the fiat-protected power source my companions draw on to cast the magic after I teach it to them. I'll worry about expanding my mana pool later. The source sharing is the important bit.

>>54632413
Ah yes, the power combo that last time it was showed to Worm_Anon made him despair for like two weeks straight.

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>>54632462
You have link?

>>54632442
FF6 (I don't care, shitposter) has a perk to grant magic systems, but it is the whole thing, not quite what you want. I think you'll need to use Conjoined Conjures or I Cheat to make your own system (or just find one that works) and give it to them with the FF6 perk. I think there are other jumps that can give out magic systems, but I don't know what they are.

>>54632442
>>54632495
Don't forget Master of the Arcane from Skyrim. Pick whichever school you want, but apparently most people go with Alteration. I'm debating using it on Illusion or Conjuration instead, leaning towards Illusion.

>>54632462
>despair

Isn't that the default state of anyone creating for an unpleasable audience?

>>54632520
Why do most go with Alteration? Then again I am a conjuration kinda guy.

>>54632442
Along with the examples listed >>54632495 and >>54632520 there's also a perk in Justice League Dark which allows you to teach anyone how to access and use the DC universe's magic system straight from their 'verse (think it's The Path of Magic), and Umineko Catbox has Mariage Sorciere.

>>54632413
>No Compounded Computation
>No Assimilation
>No Sting
>No Doormaker
>No Soft Physics
>No Geist
>NO THANATOS
There are a lot of good powers from Worm, way more than just 8.

>>54632561
It kind of makes sense, that's where all the utility spells go. Transmute for easy money, Water Breathing, all the Mage Armor spells, etc.

>>54632561
Alteration is the utility school. Offers things like flight and shielding.

>>54632216
Don't have one. Although it's less 'this issue has been paralyzing me with despair' and more I want to clear my backlog of other projects first. I still have to do:

>Symphogear AXZ update
>Titanfall 2 Monarch's Reign update
>Starcraft Terran Route imaging
>World of Warcraft imaging
>Secret imaging project

I occasionally jot down ideas but they're nothing special.

>reading Bravely Default
>you can get a fairy for free but it's evil

Do any other jumps do something like that, give you a discount or freebie on a Companion by making them plot behind your back? The closest other things I can think of are all the Drawback companions, if you hold on to them.

>>54632495
Which perk in FF6? I don't see one that seems to fit. I would love to find an answer there. Love that setting to death. Conjoined Conjures was my back up plan, to take a few kinds of Blue Magic from all over Final Fantasies to make a kind of Super Blue Mage that could learn all kinds of magic, not just monster magic.

>>54632520
That's close, but a little limited. I'm trying to teach all kinds of magic. I'll keep it in mind though.

>>54632567
It will be a while before I hit either Justice League Dark or Umineko. I was hoping for something in a lower end setting, but thank you OOA.

>>54632520
I went alteration and destruction and picked up conjuration in the other elder scrolls jump.

Its just all really good magic, also buy the spellmaking altar for extra fun.

>>54632442
Charmed. Whatever the Avatar perk is called.

>>54632570
Geist kind of sucks compared to other Worm powers, and is worse than most intangibility powers offered from other settings.

>>54632520
>Master of the Arcane from Skyrim. Pick whichever school you want
Um. Why? It's nice to get a head start, but you don't strictly need that perk to teach TES magic, right?

>>54632604
>Which perk in FF6?

Magitek Mastery.

And bah. Sorry about that, let me look through my chain a bit more to see if there's some other examples.

>>54632604
Magitech Mastery, I think. It's a supplementary part of the perk.

>>54632442
Go to magicka and get the book to teach magicka magic, then go to overlord and get dark wisdom.

There, turn all other magic into magicka spells that you can teach. They dont even need mp.

>>54632604
Magitek Mastery (600) (Discount Magiteknician)
In essence, magitek is simply the use of magical energies as a power and fuel source for technology. Your
understanding of that outstrips anyone elses, and you can now apply this principle to any technology you own. By
altering your devices to use something magical in nature, such as a magicite stone, an enchanted item, or just raw
magical energy, you can enhance it in every single way and give it unique properties. A suit of armor would become
much harder, lighter, and more agile than before, perhaps even boosting the physical abilities of the wearer in line
with the magical power source. From there, the armor could make more esoteric uses of the magic, such as casting
spells on its own based around the sort of magic infused into it automatically or at the wearer's prompting. This isn't
some measly effect restricted to the mundane or basic, no, magic can infused into any sort of technological device to
enhance its functionality and give it a partially magical nature and powers. Even life may be infused with magitek
technology like this, not only as cybernetics but directly as well. In this situation, it behaves a bit differently. The
magic integrates itself into their body, becoming a natural part of them, allowing them access to that magic system
and enhancing them physically, but they must grow into it. They start at a much weaker level, where they have to
practice and develop their connection to this magic to realize it fully. There's no upper limit to them beyond what
the magic's system is capable of, but it can take time, and you can instead choose to infuse living things with a
larger amount of magic to grant them greater magical ability much more quickly. Unfortunately, this can have
dangerous side effects, as giving them too much to handle at once can

>>54632639
To non-companions with no reason to have magicka you do need it.

>>54632570
>>No Doormaker
Dimensional Travel is a dime-a-dozen in the chain. Does it even allow you to create multiple portals?

>>No Soft Physics
We have several dedicated "toon" jumps.

>>No Geist
Intangibility, like dimensional travel is fairly common. And very often better than Geist.

>>54632653
>>54632644
>>54632641
Oh, shit. I completely glossed over a few sentences in Magitek Mastery that make all the difference. For some reason I thought Magicite Creation was being referred to.

That's it exactly. And in a setting I love. Thank you guys.

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>>54632639
Do people in other universes who aren't you+Companions naturally receive a stream of Magicka from Magnus? It mentions you being able to teach even those who seem to lack the required spark, after all, but I will admit that wording is kind of vague and could just mean you can teach it to idiots and you could teach actually smart people anyway.

So. Maybe?

What is there to do in Naruto?

>>54632684
Glad to help. Those long-ass perk descriptions can be a pain. I have a file full of notes on power-dispersal and uplifting for this reason. Although it's way out of date now.

>>54632716
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naruto#Plot

>>54632716
Train up and teach all of the secondary and supporting characters that never get power-ups so that they overshadow Naruto and Sasgay.

>>54632716
Touch Madara Uchiha.

>>54632716
there's one movie that flat-out implies there's crazier shit going on outside of the country full of ninjas.

Go forth. Explore. Discover.

Does anyone else not like using Final Form because it feels like something that shouldn't be in the jump?

>>54632716
Lots of things, some of which may be mutually exclusive.

>Run a ramen shop
>Join the Akatsuki
>Become a medical ninja
>Be an Inuzuka
>do the classic Uzumaki/Senju/Reserves combo, don't forget to get Wood Release and a Summoning Contract
>aim for Rinnegan
>try to be the Uchiha/Senju/Uzumaki/Hyuga unholy lovechild and usurp the keikaku
>go to the Land of Iron and be a samurai
>something something Gelel
>help Naruto and Hinata get together
>rap battle with Killer B
>something something Samehada
>i dunno blow up the moon maybe

>>54632775
I mean, it does say you're secretly the 99th floor boss and Kayaba is hacking in your favor, but eh. I'm indifferent to it honestly. I still prefer CEF and APM Intensifies, but I don't /hate/ Final Form.

>>54632775
More like I pick up Final Form so I can feel more comfortable doing something that I don't really feel like I need a perk to do in the first place.

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>>54632780
>>Run a ramen shop
>>Join the Akatsuki

>>54632775
Yeap. I use the one from, I think "The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes"? I don't really mind not being able to freely combine forms. I have my one crazy combat Form that I bust against real threats, against anything else I have dozens of other options that don't necessitate the use of any racial abilities.

Though, I don't really like the Jump or the Setting that much in general, so I might do it anyways so that I can take more interesting/fun stuff in the aforementioned Avengers Jump (a setting I DO like).

>>54632716
A lonely moon bunny milf.

>>54632775
No, because alt-forms were a mistake.

>>54632716
Best idea: Bring Nanoha in and introduce her to Naruto. Let them trade Befriending techniques.

>>54632716
Nuke everything from orbit, be sure to nuke the moon too.

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>>54632823
Were they really, though?

>>54632775
Ugh, no. My distaste for alt-forms vastly outweighs any "dirtiness" I feel from using such a perk. Like, you don't even know, anon.

>>54632823
Explain.

>>54632821
Isnt she insane?

>>54632754
Is that the something something Gelel from >>54632780 ?

>>54632873
Probably not, but she hardly talks.

>>54632873
She's 5000% insane. That has never stopped a Jumper though, who would literally fuck a rock and call it a waifu if it was curvy in the right way.

>>54632780
>Wood Release
>Summoning Contract
Nah, you can use your trees to gather nature chakra for you. You don't need animals to do sage mode with Wood Release. It's one of the reasons it's secretly amazing.

>>54632904
Wait seriously? Neat.

>>54632873
She didn't really do much other then fight and say a very few words, a theory is that it wasn't the real Kaguya or something.

>>54632873
Nothing a little Jumper dick therapy can't fix.

>>54632413
The crazy thing is, even if you don't use any bullshit to claim all these powers for yourself, this is still a broken as fuck combination of powers for a team. Any companion jumper could just chose to have their companions take these powers and have them use them to do what they want, and it's just as effective.

Have Complete Arsenal bullshit up a bunch of Tinker madness, have Contractor give everyone in the group an extra power that synergies with their original or is just useful in the given situation, have Path To Victory share plans for how best to use everyone's powers, have Boogie Manimal make a bunch of minions and fodder, have Iterative Improvement make equipment for Enhanced Mastery, and have Warp Spasm fight Quantum Evolution.

Broken as fuck even without stacking it all in one person.

>>54632915
Yep, Hash Browns is shown doing it.

>>54632924
You'd just be replacing one obsession with another. One that's more useful to you, but doesn't really help anyone else unless you keep that leash tight.

>>54632879
Yes. There's like countries of medieval energy-wielding knights.

>>54632716
Help with Hiashi's keikaku.

>>54632940
You underestimate my ability to brainwash people with mind-shattering sex.

>>54632915
Nope. Hashirama just gathered natural energy on his own. There's no indication that he used his trees to do it for him. Every time he used Sage Mode he was standing still, which is the requirement to use Sage Mode without someone else gathering energy for you.

>>54632716
Be a Samurai. Cut off ninja hands when they try to do magic bullshit. Cut out ninja eye when they try to do magic bullshit.

Fuck ninja magic bullshit.

>>54632930
Path To Victory either doesn't need any input from teammates or wouldn't work, depending on how you fluff precog immunity working with a companion. If they can predict how to use everyone though, they don't really need to share the plans, just enact them and everyone else will fall into place.

>>54632967
Reminder that she was brought into the world by using Madara's body.

>>54632972
How about being a ninja with ninja magic bullshit and samurai sword bullshit?

>>54632972
Here's a fucking suggestion, stop getting involved with things you hate if you hate them so much.

>>54632983
Reminder that that only makes it hotter.

>>54632983
Reminder that I'm a quintillions of years old eldritch horror from another dimension and that glimpsing my true form would drive gods insane.

>>54632930
>Broken as fuck even without stacking it all in one person.

Congratulations. You just made Cauldron...

>>54632969
Actually I don't think it was ever clarified what his source was. He might have learned it from some kind of animal summon or even fuckin tree spirits. Who knows?

>>54632969
You seem to be leaping to conclusions here.

Also I want to remind you of something else. If you want to shitpost and declare anons can't do it, Hashirama has a freakish body that's stated to not work like a normal person's. We see this displayed too, and it's implied to be because of his Wood Release. Hashirama is, in nature, similar to the trees he summons. That's an innate part of the power. Which isn't surprising, a lot of blood lines make your biology inhuman.

>>54633007
If it was from animals, it would have been shown.

>>54632900
> implying I need curves
Flat is Justice, anon.

>>54633012
You say someone else is leaping to conclusions when you yourself are stating theory as fact. Nowhere in the series does it mention Hashirama uses his trees to gather Nature Chakra, but it is mentioned that standing still is needed to gather it.

>>54632992
Man, what makes you think I hate it? I just like how when the ninja and samurai fought in the backstory, Iaido fucked them up because it didn't rely on hand seals.

Fighter > Mage

>>54632900
>a rock

There's plenty of earth elementals out there, yes.

>>54632873
I actually had a chain dedicated to waifuing Kaguya once. I forget the details, but it basically boiled down to:

>Grab some perks to make you an expert in psychology.
>Any of the Harem perks.
>Charisma perks. A whole lot of charisma perks.
>Some anti-corruption perks to fight any effects the fruit might have had on her. The only one I remember is the one from Magical Girl.
>Convince her that she would need help for whenever the other two Ootsutsuki arrive.

>>54633039
Sage mode is always something you need to to be taught by animals and you take those animal traits on when you use it. This is consistent, except for Hasirama.

>>54632567
Is the Umineko jump on the drive?

>>54633054
Speaking of Sage Mode, did Kisame ever get Sage Mode or is his shark thing just from his sword?

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>>54633037

>>54633073
Gauntlets folder.

>>54632413
>Warp Spasm
Personally, I'd replace this with Personal Force Manipulation.

>>54633078
Pretty sure it was just his sword and him just being a huge freak, not sage mode.

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Since we are all talking about naruto and waifuing I will share this that I copy and pasted from a previous discussion.


>>53417592
Gonna spoil this out of a futile attempt to hide my shame, but: Naruto, if you have a few other perks. Specifically, you'll want The Path of Heaven from Kamen Rider Kabuto, and You're Gonna Wake Up The Rest of the Bitches from Black Dynamite, and Toggle from Young Justice. Some protection against mind control would be useful. Now, in Naruto, take the 0CP version of the fanfiction drawback and choose the smut-fic "Icha Icha World", toggle off The Path of Heaven, then stay in the background until near the end of the Fourth Ninja War. At this point, toggle The Path of Heaven back on so that you're the main character and the story revolves around you. You will now take Naruto's place as the person the Infinite Tsukuyomi revolves around giving a planet-wide harem to. You're Gonna Wake Up The Rest of the Bitches gives you the prowess to see your way to the resolution of the plot where Naruto (now you) sexes Kaguya so hard that she cancels the Infinite Tsukuyomi, uses the Ten-Tails' vines to turn everyone into their appearance in the illusion instead of a White Zetsu like normal, and transfers all her power to you.

>>54633078
He probably just has a useless bloodline or mutation.

>>54633078
He was a shark-boy before Samehada, so prolly something freakier.

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>>54633079
fuck yes

>>54633007
Sure, we don't know how he learned it. Never said anything about that.

>>54633012
And that's leaping to a conclusion, too. "Hashirama has a weird body, so of course Wood Release lets you do something he's never shown to do" is much more of a reach.

>>54633054
Yes, and? That means he might have learned Sage Mode through his connection to nature (or possibly through having Asura chakra), but it has no impact on his natural energy gathering. Jiraiya's actually the only character who uses his summons to fuel Sage Mode.

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>>54632924

>>54632716
Take the fanfic drawback and pick a fun fanfic.

>>54633078
Nah, Kisame's just an abomination.

>>54633079
First the petrification fetishists, now this? What's next, Ohio topography guy making a Chain?

>>54633114
I'll fight you for it. It's mine.

>>54633097
I'm never going to live that down, am I?

>>54633127
>That means he might have learned Sage Mode through his connection to nature
Pretty much what I said, so you're agreeing with me now.

>(or possibly through having Asura chakra)
Naruto wouldn't have needed frog training in that case.

>>54633048
The "fuck ninja magic bullshit" part. Honestly that's my bad though, I've had enough experience with people who hate the series saying how it should be that I've got residue salt. Sorry anon.

>>54633078
>>54633091
>>54633098
>>54633100
The shark transformation is all Samehada, but it requires an absolutely stupidly absurd amount of chakra, partially on part of the wielder (Kisame's personal gimmick was basically having unholy amounts of chakra) and partially by absorbing it from elsewhere. He got the extra chakra from Killer B, who was a jinchuriki, and they all have shit loads of chakra.

>>54633153
No one lives anything down in /jc/. No matter how long ago. No matter what they've done since. No matter how little they deserve to suffer it in addition to what they're going through.

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>>54633141

>>54633079
>>54633114
>>54633143
Your waifu is chipped. Broken goods.

>>54633153
No and I love you for that suggestion, it tempted my jumper, but in the end they decided to give up on it in order to help Shikako.

>>54633172
DON'T

>>54633161
They're talking about how he looks naturally.

>>54633141
I'd prefer tile pattern guy, desu.

>not taking an Animal Summoning Scroll AND Hash Browns bloodline.

>not having animal-shaped trees fueling your Sage bullshit.

>>54633161
No, the TRANSFORMATION was Samehada, yes.

Kisame's basic appearance, however, was shark-y before he even took up Samehada.

>>54633081
Thanks

Speaking of Naruto, which fanfiction should I jump? Its been ages since I last read Naruto fanfiction so I don't really remember that many.

And no I'm not picking Chunin Exam Day.

I would however totally pick Partially Kissed Hero if Harry Potter had a fanfic option

>broken goods
jumpers, does it matter if potential waifus/husbandos have been with someone before you?

>>54633155
>Pretty much what I said, so you're agreeing with me now.
No. I'm saying that he might have learned senjutsu from his connection to nature. The conversation was about whether he used his trees to fuel his senjutsu, which we see no evidence of. If I've gotten mixed around and thought you were saying that he could use his trees to gather natural energy, I apologize for my confusion.

>Naruto wouldn't have needed frog training in that case.
Madara and Hashirama had stronger connections to their transmigrant chakra than Sasuke and Naruto, at least until Hagoromo gave them a boost. We know that the Asura half of the Six Paths Chakra covers senjutsu, based on the enhancement to it that Naruto got post-boost. So him having learned it from Asura is possible. But it's just a hypothesis, I'm not stating that's the case.

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>>54633197
>Relying on the power of others.

>>54633176
Some anons are just okay with sloppy seconds.

>>54633190
Oh, that? Well the blue skin seems to be something various Mist Ninja have, could be a minor bloodline. The sharp teeth are a mist ninja tradition of filing them to a point unless I'm mixing it up with fanon. I think Suigetsu mentions it at some point.

>>54633211
It's a negative but not a deal breaker, unless that someone is a person I know personally. It feels very wrong to date a friend's ex.

>>54633211
something something VIRGINAL PURITY something something USED SLOPPY REEEEEEEEEEEEE something.

Something.

>>54632775
Not me. I like to rack up a certain type of race, so the perk lets me be the ultimate member of that race. It also makes the racial options less useless, since you don't need to stick to one at a time.

>>54633211
Yes. Anyone who hasn't banged a few guys is some kind of loser I don't want to deal with, assuming she comes from any sexually liberated society.

>>54633211
Not at all. That's a shitty thing to care about. Their sexual history does not in any way diminish their worth as a person.

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>>54633211
No. I actually prefer they were with someone else, that way they know how to be smart and mature in a relationship and can call me out if I'm doing some bullshit and they don't like it.

Also it helps that they're experienced in lovemaking, too.

So to double check no one has claimed Dark Heresy right?

>>54633211
No.

>>54633240
And his gills?

>>54633258
Actually, don't suppose you could do Black Crusade.

>>54633161
It's fine, I get what you're saying.

But it's really the opposite, y'know? I was involved with Narutard stuff from pretty much beginning to end, so it's almost more self-deprecation when I mock the series.

>>54633211
Of course. You want a girl with some experience, after all.

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>>54633211
>being such a pleb that you can't even warp history to erase somebody's previous relationships

>>54633211
No. In fact one of my waifus is a complete slut who likes getting gangbanged.

>>54633211
Depends. Are they:

>A) fully out of all previous relationships when we meet
>B) committed to one relationship at a time - having had multiple partners in the past is not the same as seeing multiple, mutually unaware partners at once
>C) lacking in jealous ex-suitors with means to make my life miserable even if those people have no chance of killing me
>D) a decent or at least acceptable person in other aspects of life
>E) interesting to me in some way
>F) likely to share my interests or at least tolerate them?

Note that in phrasing B I'm trying to exclude any scenario in which there is a harem of either gender formed willingly, by informed consent of all of its members, from the "the difference between having dated and having cheated."

>>54633210
One Man Team.
or if your feeling really naughty
Naruto Chaos Mage

>>54633211
Give me a dirty girl who's been around the block a few times over a wilting violet virgin. If I've got to train her in the matter from the ground up, it's just not worth it anymore.

>>54633211
It's a really weird thing to get hung up on unless they've banged half the town, isn't it? I didn't even know people took serious issue with it until listening to some of these guys. Why would someone not being a virgin be a problem?

>>54633257
I know from experience that having previous relationships does not make someone smart or mature.

>>54633293
I think Chaos Mage doesn't work, you can't do crossovers. That's the one where Naruto has Negima sealed in him, right? Or am I thinking of something different.

>>54633210
Time Braid or Dreaming of Sunshine.

>>54633311
Ah forgot about that rule. No, your right about that he has the cast of Negima sealed in him.

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While we're discussing fanfic drawbacks, any Ranma fanfic suggestions?

>>54633307
Statistics show that that the more partners a person has had, the more likely that person is to cheat, seek divorce, and otherwise be unhappy in a marriage. Now don't bite my head off over this, I understand the whole 'judge her on her individual merits' thing, but if you've been jilted before or otherwise have trust issues, you might have a thing about not wanting to risk it.

>>54633308
It makes it more likely.

>>54633348
Calling bullshit on that too. Some of the most immature morons I've known in my life have been the biggest manwhores.

I think you have a selection bias going on.

>>54633268
I think those are just facial markings unless I'm mistaken.

>>54633274
Tell me about it anon. Same right here, I know why people hate it and why parts of it are shit. I still love it anyways, hits that nostalgia factor just right while also being the thing that got me into other things.

>>54633348
What possible evidence do you have to support that claim?