Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1642: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Multiverse

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Got any spells that can bring people back from old age? Not necromancy, real resurrection.

>>54583177
Sims alchemy/culinary

>>54583177
Go Healer in the D&D jump. Rez magic, and one free True Rez rez per week when you hit level 20.

>>54577261
A little late to the thread, but I love it. I've been feeling insecure with my Kars like hair, it didn't feel luscious enough to me.

>>54583238
D&D's rez spells don't work if the death is due to old age. Not even True Rez.

>>54583358
On the other hand, very few old people actually die of old age, it's usually due to age-related complications like cancer, stroke, etc..

Every time I'm about to start my chain some new jump or update gets announced I put it on hold. I've been here for almost a year and I'm wondering if it'll ever happen.

>>54583177
I am uncertain if these will work but it doesn't say they will not in jump. Overlord the anime's divine magic could probably do it since the magic there is ridiculous.
Another one that would probably let you do it is Magika. It's just a very easy Rez.
Barring that there are ways to work around the restriction. Anima has Elan of the goddess of hope that lets them transfer souls in to new bodies if they are a good enough Elan. There are several places like Eclipse phase that will let you create bodies without souls. It's not exactly a spell but it will work.

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Jumpers, what was your first kiss like?

>>54583177
>>54583238
>>54583358
>>54583393
Provided you have the body and it's been less than a week, the druid spell Reincarnate (or the Wish spell to substitute) can accomplish it.

>>54583435
Actually, while D&D's Reincarnate does give people a new, young adult body, if the death was from old it doesn't work.

So if you're a munchkin, you kill the old geezer before they can kick the bucket naturally.

>>54583421
Completely unexpected.

>>54583177
Chick Tracts has a perk that let's you rez a dude who's been dead up to four years once a year regardless of how they died IIRC.

>>54583464
I don't recall there being an old age clause on Reincarnate.
If there is, then my mistake.

All of that being said... My recommendation would be to revive the old geezer as an undead, then use True Ressurection.

>>54583552
He'd still be an old geezer. Assuming he didn't die of old age, otherwise you can't rez him at all.

And Reincarnate has the old age clause in 3.5, but not in PF.

>>54583421
Messy. I was a cranial parasyte and instinct is just so hard to ignore

>>54583415
Why on earth are you waiting? We get a new jump roughly every second day or so (less, usually).

>>54583421
Like any other, I guess.

>>54583618
Anon, we've talked about this. Waifus are friends, not food.

>>54583421
Does it count if it was before I started jumping?

It was nothing really that amazing or special,like most people were lucky enough to have. I made out with a random Drunk girl at a Bit Shifter concert.

>>54583421
Overwhelming and kind of bizarre feeling to be quite honest, but I got used to it.

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Changelog for the new version

Spelling mistakes fixed
Note that being a World Devil removes immunity to Materialised weapons
Changed Imaginary Reality, only works with powers that work in other worlds. Imagination stuff doesn't fit the series
Family clones do not get Recoil
Devilish Constituion clarified
Ended up leaving The Light as a 600 due to it's power boost nature and instead made that boost clearer.

>>54583421
Unexpected. Entertaining. Addicting. Apparently I'm a natural kisser. Also is it bad that we were more involved BEFORE kissing happened?

>>54583764
>Powers that only work in other worlds now function in the real world as normal for you
Does the inverse apply as well?

>>54583805
Mhm. Powers that work in your original reality will work in other worlds.

>>54583764
Well that still does work for Dream Demon. . .

>>54583849
If it still does, good for you. I only changed it because the example reminded me that 'imagination' was a poor way to describe how it's reflected in series.

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>Sekai Oni's King
>Soul Eater's Madness Wavelength
>Zendikar's Drop-In perk line
>Webmage's Chaos Power


Do we have anything else that makes you a walking cancer for reality?

>>54583937
Not quite to the same degree, but Kingdom Heart's Heartless has some.

Jump 3: Young Justice
Origin: Vigilante
Gender: Male
Race: Human
Age: 18
Location : Washington D.C.
Perks:
* Souvenir
* Acrobat
* Practice Make Perfect (900)
* Yoink (750)
* Gadgeeter (600)
* Rolling With The Punches (300)
Super Powers:
* Most Common Superpower
* Required Secondary Powers
* Chlorokinesise (0)
Companions:
* Import: Mina Ashido (-100)
Items:
* Costume
* Light Armor
* Bulletproof Cape
* Utility Belt
* Expertly Crafted Weapon (a rod)
* Wingsuit (50)
* HUD (-150)
* Vehicle (-300)
Drawbacks:
* No Killing Rule (-200)
* Never a Dull Moment (0)


Mina's Build
Origin: Superhuman (100)
Perks:
* Souvenir
* Know His Own Strength
Superpowers:
* Animal Transformation (250)
* Flight (150)
* Shrinking (0)
Items:
* Costume

Well, I don't actually know much about this show, qo I guess I'll just go with the flow. Mina sure have fun with her new powers, tough.

>>54583937
You could always go Touched in Captain SNES.

Life is but a dream, after all.

>>54583876
Would both Light and King make us that same happy go lucky pig guy who cared only for his own entertainment?

>>54583764
Oh. I remember being tempted to make a jump out of this. But I couldn't really figure how to make the origins.


Good to see that you made it! Keep up the awesome work!

>>54583764
>Ended up leaving The Light as a 600 due to it's power boost nature and instead made that boost clearer.
Val literally the devil, wants The Light to be unaffordable as part of nefarious plot, news at 11.

>>54584043
>no Toggles
rethink this

>>54583764
Is there anything special to the Imprisoned drawback that would stop a Jumper from just teleporting out of there or blowing up the whole place?

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>>54584086
Lord no. King alone would make it more likely, though only if you just give in, since it's directly taking his unique ability and giving it to you, albeit without all his build up and the pre gathered misery he got boosted with.

The King is easily the most fun character in the series.

>>54584087
Yeah, was originally going to do Alice/World Devil/Cheshire but since everyone was an Alice in the end, decided to just follow the Bloodborne format.

>>54584088
Gotta pay out the nose for happiness.

>>54584124
Not really.

>>54583764
>>54584137
Hmm... Introduce The King to the GoD? What could possibly go wrong...

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>>54584193
GoD?

>>54584200
The only thing I know of which fits that acronym is the Games of Divinity.

What's your favorite writefagging to read?

>>54584137
Huh so this isn't meant to imply power-loss?

>but you are otherwise just another prisoner

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>>54584223
Oh.

>>54584285
Why on earth would that lose your powers? No, it's just saying you aren't locked in some max security prison cell with minimum bare necessities.

>>54584137
>>54584200
>>54584287
This King guy certainly has style, if nothing else.

>>54584137
>Gotta pay out the nose for happiness.

Ladies and gentlemen, we can now buy happiness.

>>54584295
He's a fancy mother fucker to be sure.

>>54584137
Wow that ending was. . . strange.

Remember kids, the moral of the story is everyone else's life is worthless compared to the happiness of you and your loved ones.

Though most jumpers are already well acquainted with that moral.

>>54584315
Fuck the world. party on your with bros.

>>54584137
Hey Val, how long would it take for King to develop to the point where you could use it on a global scale?

>>54584344
Probably a few centuries at least. King in canon was focused around a gigantic megastructure but was still a lot smaller then the world and it took him a while even with a big initial boost.

>>54583764
So, how do we account how many Life Points we would have when we enter the Jump if this isn't our first jump? What abilities would fuel the Darkness or the Light?

>>54584359
Gotcha, thanks. I'm just imagining how awesome it would be to use it in a jump like 1984, and then use that power to obliterate the three superpowers. It seems fitting to destroy them with the same things that have been keeping them in power for so long: misery, hate, and fear.

>>54584366
Like it explains in the Life Point perk, it's judged primarily by the strength of your emotions, beliefs and such, with lots of negative or positive feelings enhancing it and willpower/determination also plays a small part in increasing your amount. So having stuff that increases that would obviously increase your LP. How much you'd have is kind of up to fanwank, given the series never uses hard numbers past the 1000 point base line.

Those are pretty much the only things that would increase LP, since it's not life energy in the way chakra or ki is.

>>54583764
If this can have a jump, would a Bokurano jump be possible or a Gauntlet would be more suited?

>>54584327
But what if your bro is the world?

>>54584385
Then you fuck your bro, duh.

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>>54584385
There's a version of pic related out there that has DIO and ZA WARUDO instead, and it would fit perfectly for this, but I can't find it. So I'll just post the regular image, and let you imagine it instead.

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>>54583764
If you were immune to temporal hazards, would making the future allow you to 'jump' into the past since it destroys the present and the future?

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>>54584379
Lots of things that would normally be difficult to make into jumps can be made possible if you're willing to play with the format a bit and put in some extra work.

Just cause you're working with less then four origins doesn't mean you only need to do the work of one or two, usually it means you need to do at least as much as you normally would even still.

There's plenty of other jumps that try different things. I think Yoro's Katawa Shoujo is a great example of how a jump can handle a setting otherwise not too friendly to the jump format.

As for Gauntlets...for me, I find what most determines the Gauntlet situation is a combination between content and power level. SO is thematically perfect for a gauntlet but there's tonnes of cool things and powers, the actual characters use quite a lot of power (To varying levels) and it's the sort of setting where a lot of people are going to want to fix things. So I decided not to, whereas Distant Sky had a lot less content and it's power was generally limited to the humanly possible level. Going in with nothing means you can be roughly equal to much of the cast even if you spend your points frivolously. It's also a place where death is something that happens or potentially happens to many of the cast members, whereas SO is surprisingly light on Main Character deaths.

Pretty much comes down to what you feel it fits best with and what you can work out with your skills. Hell, maybe you think it might fit best as a gauntlet but have so many cool ideas that you can't not make it a normal jump.

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>>54584415
This one?

>>54584424
Making the future? I assume you're referring to the Cube explosion since nothing else makes sense. But no, that wouldn't work. The Cube destroys all of space time from the present onwards so you'd need to survive the actual explosion too and even if you did, you'd just be left in an empty spot. You could time travel to before the cube exploded if you had the ability though.

>>54584435
That's the one, thanks anon.

>>54584379
Isn't that the Anti-Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann?

>>54584443
The cube seems like it was tailored made to be the ultimate middle finger a jumper can give a setting. Sit in warehouse, arm cube, throw out of warehouse, flip off the setting, get drunk until the jump ends.

>>54584497
Being a World Devil would already do the same.

>>54583764
Man, it's been a while since I've read that manga. Never thought someone would make a jump for it. Thanks, Val. Though I still hate that your jumps almost never have 600 CP drawbacks CP Vampirism like that should be illegal.

>>54584527
Only go above 300 when I think it's something deserving of such high levels. I guess I coulda gone "You have the personal attention of the King as his new fave chewtoy" but it feels kinda boring.

>>54584515
Yes but that isn't enough, just killing a universe isn't enough to be the ultimate middle finger (jumpers have been doing that for ages to places like Sonichu). It has to be done causally and with utter contempt for the world in question.

No big project, no hanging around poking holes in reality, just lock some shit head who annoyed you in the cube, head into the warehouse and crack open a beer from Dresden.

>>54584415
>not now, Death, I'm painting

>>54584537
Yeah, I can definitely understand it. Usually drawbacks that sic the BBEG on you are kinda boring. Still, being the King's chewtoy would be kinda fun, I think. I love that guy.

Rolled 2 (1d8)

Rolling for next jump.
1. Batman: The Animated Series
2. The Incredibles
3. Teen Titans
4. Duel Monster - The Heroes
5. Marvel
6. The Avengers - Earth's Mightiest Heroes
7. Worm
8. City of Heroes

>>54584537
Also, I'm rereading the manga right now, and I kinda think that Life at Home should give some more CP. It's definitely a worse drawback than Imprisoned imo.

>>54584583
I don't think so. It's certainly nasty but you can run away. Not easy but it is possible to survive away form your home.

>>54584569
Okay, I need another superhero jump to replace The Incredibles in the roll list.

How well protected would I be if I combined Timeless Body with that Gaul capstone in Asterix?

>>54584599
Showa Kamen Rider Part 1.

>>54584569
Why no answer
>>54584113
>>54584043

>>54584593
Eh, guess it's just my opinion. At least the drawback gives you some guilt-free Reserve Tanks. I guess if you take it with Imprisoned, it's the wardens are other prisoners that are shitty people?

>>54584604
>Timeless Body
What jump?

>>54584606
Why why no answer?

>>54583764
Can we use the mask to mate, create children at full power and then retrieve only the original masks? Or if we retrieve the originals the rest disappear?

>>54584614
Your shitty family will be in there with you.

>>54584619
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/timelessBody.htm

DnD Psionic ability

>>54584629
The masks have to be active for all the clones to be out. That said, your own power will replenish over time even if you invested all of it into them.

>>54584630
>After you got imprisoned, your shitty family comitted crimes on purpose in order to continue on torturing you
This is hilarious desu.

>>54584640
it's like a really shitty version of Prison Break, without the Break.

Hey Quack,
If you're on you might want to change the upload folder you put Miyuki-chan in Wonderland and the Mogeko Castle Gauntlet in. They're currently sitting next to some Hentai Jumps

>>54584640
>>54584630
They might be assholes, but at least they are dedicated to you. I guess they are acceptable targets for the first recoils, right?

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>>54584674
Eh?

>>54584684
Of course. That's what the MC does.

>>54584688
You know the SB drive kept separate lewd and SFW Jumps? He's placed them in the wrong upload folder

>>54584684
Yup, that's actually what happens in the manga. When they find out that it kills their family, the MC happily continues on killing World Devils.

I just had a dream that seems like it's a bit relevant to /jc/.
I was at a shitty parking lot carnival when "The Taco Truck" pulled up. It looked like a regular doof truck that sold tacos. Except if you looked away for any amount of time, and then back, it's appearance changed, sometimes drastically. Also, The Taco Truck didn't just sell tacos - they gave them away. Along with anything else you asked for. ANYTHING. People were asking for immortality, for a million dollars, for their dead loved ones, for cures to cancer and aids (probably, I was too busy thinking about what I should ask for).
Should I ask for something like nano-technology to keep my body healthy? But what if it went grey-goo, or accidentally killed me if I got an MRI or something stupid like that?
Should I ask for immortality? But what if a government discovered my unaging, and decided to cut me up to figure out why?
Should I wish for wealth? The IRS would definitely come after me for that.
I was paralyzed by the wealth of opportunities, and the ways they could go wrong.
In the end, I asked for a cream to remove skin blemishes (I have some moles I want to get rid of) and a way to keep my toe nails from digging into the sides of my toes.

Clearly, I am not cut out to be a jumper.

>>54584659
I think I need to take these drawbacks solely for how amusing I'm finding this.

>>54584689
Could you maybe include a toggle that makes you part of the protag's family? Especially if you take the relevant drawback. I think it'd be neat.

>>54584605
Taken, thanks.

>>54584857
Hm. Maybe. I'll have to think about that one.

>>54584689
Can you tell me what the blue book perk in nier is based on? I have been looking but I can't find any info on it at all in the wiki.

What kind of monsters are there in nier anyway that can be used with this power to get the most from it? I assume gestalts do not bleed as they are soul forms.

>>54584928
Isn't it based on the two main Grimores? Weiss gains new spells as you finish bosses.

>>54584857
Wouldn't that involve being the MCs Reserve Tank? Seems unhealthy.

>>54584928
It's not really based on much. It's more of a way to continue gaining Sealed Verses beyond the set number that exist. So I guess it's based on the creation of Sealed Verses really.

Gestalts do actually bleed, since they are physical. Hitting them briefly reverts their souls to a human bit where you hit them and blood spurts out. Shades do come in a fair variety of sizes and forms, mostly the boss shades, but other then them there's not too many monsters, aside from giant animals.

>>54584896
Hey val I was wondering why the 200 cp gained from being a grimoire in nier 1 counts against the drawbavk cap when grimoirse also get no items? It just seems to be needlessly making things bad for those who take the origin as they literally get less than everyone else and dont even really get the 200 free cp since it screws over the drawbacks they can take.

>>54584953
Thanks. Will help a lot.

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How scary would a clown-spawning World Devil would be as a boss battle in a superhero setting (Worm, Young Justice, Avengers).

I like the the whole 'evil threat from another dimension who is sending small monsters on waves' and picking up drawbacks that pit you against the heroes, but I also don't want to utterly destroy the setting.

Would that be too much for the average superhero setting?

>>54584965
I don't really see it as screwing them over to get the CP essentially free. You're not getting CP for being a Grimoire because there's few downsides and many upsides. You're getting that because you lack an item section.

I also don't understand why it counting against their limit is an issue. You can still get as much as any one else, in fact you get as much but easier.

>>54584483
Uh, I guess? Never really thought of it that way before, but it's not the worst description. A better one would be that it's a death game scenario with giant robots, and each giant robot is from a different dimension, and if your giant robot dies then your dimension is erased, and the pilot themselves is always going to die no matter what even if they win so you have to keep replacing them, and no explanation for why or how this is happening is ever given. It's bleak.

>>54585000
If they get it because they have no item section then why lock off the drawback cap on them? I mean they do get less, they have no items they can buy at all not even a free 100 cp book shelf or something stupid like that. But they also cannot buy as much as the other backgrounds because 1, they get no discount gear so everything costs more, and 2, the only way of getting extra cp available is capped at a point where they cannot get as much as others thereby blocking them from getting the higher ranked stuff at all.

I just don't see what they get that is so much better than the other backgrounds.

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Asking again in case Worm_Anon sees this... Two questions about the new Worm update, and one question I had just reading old options again.

How durable are the Friendbringers? Like, could I have them go along into Parahuman combat without worrying about them, despite the tastelessness of it?

Is there any possibility of adding an option for Shards/Passenger to become a presence in someone's head in later jump?

And lastly, could I use the 50 option of the Powered Armor System to merge it with a Power Armor I already have?

>>54585000
>You can still get as much as any one else, in fact you get as much but easier.

Not him but it really didnt seem that way from how I was reading it, but I took poor children.

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So, a quick question if SMTanon happens to be on. I'm working on a Duel Monsters: The Heroes Build for my Side Chain and I've gotten to the point of wondering something.

Visions of Justice allows you to make and create Hero Robots. I was wondering if you could make Henshin belts with this and the repair station of the Mask Change Gimmick, using the 'Hero' robots as a bases or do we base the Mask Change on something else?

>>54585051
1- No, they just don't get discount gear. That doesn't make things cost more. Things cost the same. They just don't get discounts. Instead they get 200 CP they can spend anywhere without any drawbacks attached.

2- What? They can get as much as everyone else without taking on as many negatives. There's no reason you can't take more drawbacks and end up with the same cap as everyone else.

Flight, agelessness, no physical needs, ability to learn powerful magics with ease and some free starting magical powers.

>>54585061
...I'm not sure if I wrote otherwise now but are you somehow thinking you can't get as much CP from drawbacks as others? Because you can. You can take drawbacks to hit the cap like any other origin. You just get 200 of that CP without an attached drawback (Or you can just look at it as the drawback being the lack of an item section)

>>54585107
>You can take drawbacks to hit the cap like any other origin. You just get 200 of that CP without an attached drawback (Or you can just look at it as the drawback being the lack of an item section)

No no I mean they just don't seem to get as much, like at all. Nothing seems to be that much more awesome.

>>54585107
What magic powers do they start with in comparison to the 200 cp magic option? Not them but Im curious now. I havent been to nier yet but being a book seems cool.

Then again being a fractal soul monster sounds cool too...

>>54585107
Huh, what does the part about gaining the "power" of the book mean if we take the import option? Would I be able to cast everything in it, or something else?

Must resist urge to import the Necronomicon...

>>54585134
>>54585151
I mean...I just listed them? They can fly as they wish, never age, have no physical needs, can learn the various sealed verses just by coming into contact with them and get one of the sealed verses for free. That doesn't cost you anything and you're still getting 200CP bonus for taking the origin.

None of the other origins get benefits like that, most being normal humans or shades, and the one that does get some cool powers, Possessed, comes with a nasty drawback to balance it off.

>>54585195
If the book had any innate special powers, you'd gain them. You're not necessarily able to cast everything in the book but you would at least know it back to front and be able to use innate magical abilities it had.

Where can I get some Alkahest?

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>>54585195
Which Necronomicon?

>>54585222
Anywhere they have traditional alchemy, I'd imagine. I created some in the Potterverse, assuming something akin to traditional Western and Islamic alchemy was practiced by a select few Wizards.

>>54585222
The universal solvent? Anywhere with alchemy as a theme, I'd assume. Maybe Atelier? I think there's alkahest in there.

>>54585266
/The/ Necronomicon.

All of them fused together, using the Lovecraft original as a base?

>>54585222
>Alkahest

have you tried symphogear? it would probably come in the form of a squirt gun, though

>>54585279
>>54585297
>I'd imagine
>I'd assume
Are we the same person?

>>54585195
Better question is what books are available in chain that are actually worth importing, most of them come in some form with the ability to cast stuff inside them and at that point the book option level 200 perk is all around better as you just eat the other books.

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>>54585195
What other super-books do we have in the chain?

>Book of Darkness (Lyrical Nanoha)
>Blank Book (Soul Eater)
>Book of the Vishanti/Darkhold (Marvel Magic)
>The Book of Eternity (Hellblazer)

>>54585204
Could all of them be imported by spending 100 CP per book?

>>54585377
Just one use.

>>54585347
Dream Journal from It's Always Sunny, Death Note, one of the magical tutelary books form one of the fantasy jumps (Hero BBS, or Sword and Sorcery, iirc), a legendary Grimoire from a Fire Emblem jump, Book of the Dead from Old Kingdom, Book of Life from Chick Tracts...

>>54584719
Is that an SCP? I could swear there was an SCP that did something like that.

>>54583238
How you got it ?

>>54585408
There's an ice cream truck SCP that actually sells ice cream, but of any conceivable kind, and is run by some strange humanoid creature.

Two things Grimoire-related ideas about the Nier jump that I found funny:

Using Living Library while you're in human form likely involves slamming your face into a book.

Taking the How Do I Save the World perk likely makes you a book that's trying to save the world, which is just a hilarious image to me.

>>54585394
Yeah but you could just eat them and get whats there too.

There was a lovecraft story I read once about a book of sands I think it was, it had more pages than grains of sand in the desert. The pages never repeated.


Then again if you can use the import to get control over the spells in any book take the discworld octavo from discworld and just get full on creator god power.

Rat Movie jump when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXioRNYy4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNy9HIo3shs

Do we have anything that would let us get the magical abilities of Grimoires? Considering Living Library just takes the words and pictures.

>>54585473
What else do you need?

Hey, anyone mind picking a jump to replace Basilisk in my chain with?

>>54585504
Gundam new colony
Valkyrie core

>>54585504
Sonichu

>>54583764
So, I started reading this... Do the Reserve Tanks only work when slaying a World Devil or could they be used more often?

>>54585457
>>54585394
Discworld has a lot of neat ones, including one book about sex magic that creates a lust aura around it so powerful that the wizards have to keep the book submerged in ice water so it wont affect anyone.

>>54585515
Only against World Devils or similar instant death things, unless you take one of the perks that lets you use them for more.

Build for Kamen Rider NeoHeisei Part 4:ExAid Power Pak Edition

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>>54585536
>going with that one and not the the octavo.

>>54585659
If you in fact did get control of the spells then yes the octavo is superior, but val has not said how the import works here.

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>>54585659
>>54585695
The Octavo is the Creator's Spellbook, which has a grand total of eight spells in it. However as explained Eric, World Creation is purely a mechanical function and doesn't call for godlike attributes nor does it imbue them. So yeah its not that impressive outside of it's original word.

Unless you're going with the Peter J. Carroll thing (Pic Related on what it looks like) which is... A sorceror-scientist's grimoire (Roundworld edition) Every universe potentially has its own Supreme Grimoire containing the spells which define its reality and the magic which you can perform within that reality, The Octavo. But that was only inspired by the Octavo from Terry's Discworld.

How dangerous is the eXceed jump?

>>54585833
Again we have no idea how it works and val has not explained if you can cast or control the spells in any way.

Could Manifestation from Sekai Oni be used to alter magical properties?

>>54585461
I miss Jerma...

>>54585937
Didn't she say before you only get any magical abilities the book has and the knowledge in it, not necessarily cast anything in it?

>>54585937
However we do have an idea of how the Octavo works, which was my point, the Octavo is just something a Creator uses to make the world. The eight spells held within are just for that, whatever they do is for the creation of the world, Rincewind the Wizzard was just lucky that the spells themselves have a sense of 'brotherhood' or the world may have not altered as much as it did when he was speaking the eight words of the eighth spell, hinted to be the Creation of Magic by the by, so that it could escape/communicate with the other Eight Spells.

In addition the Eight Spells in the Octavo are rooted, as all things in Discworld are, in the existence of Narrativium and the Arbitrators of Reality. Without both of these things in existance you wouldn't even be able to do most of the effects that the Octavo was made for.

>>54586033
Unless you are a wizard in which case you can use the spells from discworld just fine outside of discworld. You pay cp for that after all.

>>54586007
I didnt see anything about it after she posted the update where you could import a book to be your new form.

>>54586007
>get any magical abilities the book has and the knowledge in it,

How exactly does that work if you can't cast anything from it?

>>54586074
She was talking about it just this thread. >>54585204

Black Mud perk from the F/SN jump lets you blacken Servants and other spiritual entitied into their Alter versions. Does it also incarnate them as a physical body like the actual Grail mud did to Gil?

>>54586095
Ask her?

>>54586099
I don't believe so. I believe that was something Gil purposefully tore out of the mud, It didn't seem to do so for Salter or Blackzerker.

>>54586133
I suppose it could also be the difference between it pouring out of an Einzbern grail and worst girl? In any case, thanks. I suspected my plan wouldn't work, but confirmation is nice.

>>54586133
For The Family WD perk would I permenantly lose any power I throw into the masks, or could I just make them turn back into masks and I would regain all my power? If the later would the children produced by the first pair and any other disappear?

>>54586211
You don't permanently lose it, you'll recover it as normal for whatever you invested into them. You would regain it all if you reverted the masks but all clones disappear once the masks are returned.

Jorge Joestar
By Nubee and Valeria
Whatever That Means+ 100 so business as usual?
So Many Serial Killers+ 200 looks like I'll be spending the jump hunting them down
Beyond Pasta+200 nothing I haven't dealt with before
Ant Man+ 200 annoying but not much they can do
Unwanted Tenant+300 have you met the chorus? This is nothing
Roll(1d8)+0: 3,+0
3- Mori-oh, Joji’s World
True Evil not actually going to do evil and in fact actively make up for what I have done by the background
Ultimate Lifeform-1600 . It's the one true build plus with infectious bite I can share it around!
Strike A Pose- Free and Mandatory
BEYOND:Shōnen Protagonist-300 discount for true evil. Gotta take it. It's my one chance to prove my place
ImportX2: Monique and retainers -100, of course, I am bringing them along

Retainers
human
Townie
Strike A Pose- Free and Mandatory
Manga Artists’ Workbench free for townie
I Need More, I Want More, I Will Have More -300 discount for human
arrow Cross house -300 discount for townie best time machine. We have so far

Monique
human not for long Thanks to infectious bite/
Bystander
Strike A Pose- Free and Mandatory
Childhood Bully free for bystander
Hamon Master -200 discount for bystander think you can teach me?
Need More, I Want More, I Will Have More -300 discount for human and here's where sacrificial bestowment to bestow sacrificial bestowment comes in handy
Old Timey Car free for bystander
Flying Machine -100 discount for bystander


The plan: I'm off having my own adventures, battling monsters and other kinds of monsters keeping things safe for people since the plot is largely self resolving

>>54586252
Alright, thank you.

>>54585473
Well, the Grimoires basically just cast word magic and shoot bullets, both of which are things you can buy with CP. Not sure what else you're looking for.

>>54583421
Goddammit, now I've got something else to read.
Jump when?

>>54586403
Right after we get riftworld and belgariad jumps.

How dangerous is Etrian Odyssey? I took the F.O.E. and Clear Save drawbacks.

Wasn't someone working on a zone of the enders jump?

>>54583764
>Imaginary Reality
>Take Hell Lord in Marvel Magic
>Prime universes now count as part of my dimension and I can smash them together
Suck on that, Dormammu!

>>54586532
It's a standard fantasy JRPG, except the monsters are strong enough that you can still die to them even with a solid team of in-universe competent adventurers. Honestly with those two drawbacks combined you are probably pretty fucked.

>>54586532
Shit son, I hope you like suffering. F.O.E.s are usually massively powerful monsters for the floor they appear on. So you're going to get swamped with monsters your party should not be able to defeat easily. I hope you have some OCP to fall back on. And I hope you like pain.

>>54583764
Would Imaginary Reality work if you picked up a power in-jump and then went to another jump without access to that power? Like say the Power Cosmic or some type of magic?

>>54586585
>>54586588
I mean, I don't really have access to any of my usual tricks since I took Clear Save, but I expected that. My biggest advantage for stuff like that is that I maintain a Knowledge and skills, which are peak human all around. I could probably cheat and use that to clone an army or build a bunch of robots or something, especially in combination with the two tech capstones.

>>54586581
Doing that in Marvel sounds like a bad idea. At the very LEAST, you're going to have to deal with Strange and Eternity knocking on your door after you do.

>>54586617
Depends on the power I guess. If it's a power that only works in that world because it's in that world, yeah. But if it's only working there because the specific power source is there and that source can be moved to another world potentially, allowing it to work elsewhere, it won't since that's not really what the perk can do.

Dunno enough about the Power Cosmic to decide.

>>54586630
>clone an army
>build some robots
Just don't expect the people in the town to be all that happy about it. That world doesn't have the best outlook on robots or clones. There's a lot of myths about them being monsters themselves and there are a lot of examples of the robotic race murdering pretty much everyone who makes it to their level to protect their village.

>>54586630
Fair. In that case it comes down to a race against time. You have to get enough of a tech base to fight horrible monsters before said horrible monsters burst forth from the labyrinth to kill you. Also, you will need to enter the labyrinth or commission other adventurers to get the materials for your tech.

But it should be doable.

>>54586630
Also, what's the significant difference between the Scholar and Blacksmith capstones? From my reading of the two, they both just give access to technology, with Scholar's biomagitech coming off as just better. What am I missing?

>>54586723
It's actually just biotech. There's no magic in Etrian Odyssey, just extremely advanced technology. The twist of the first game is the revelation that the world is actually the far future of our Earth. I suppose you could make biomagitech with pieces of creatures from magical worlds, though.

>>54586800
Yeah, and Mage the Awakening magic isn't magic either, it's just reality warping.

We've had this argument dozens of times, if it calls itself magic then it's magic.

>>54585377
>Jumper BECOMES the Darkhold
That's a nope. Nope, nope, nope. Everyone out of the universe.

>>54586864
But it doesn't call itself magic, is my point.

Hey Heavens, if you take Dragon or another non-human race in DxD, does the magical power boost only apply when you're in that alt-form or is that more of a soul thing or whatever?

>>54586896
It uses shit that is functionally indistinguishable from magic. Ergo.

>>54586896
It refers to itself as magic and works like magic, t doesn't matter if it's 'not actually magic', it still counts as it for all that it matters.

>>54586934
So is any other sufficiently advanced technology.

>>54586950
Look, I'm not trying to get into some argument about what perks you can and can't use to augment it. If you want to apply your magic-boosting perks, whatever, I don't care. I'm just saying that the items you make with monster parts aren't the result of you weaving some enchantment. It's a repeatable phenomenon that doesn't require the intervention of a wizard to work. Anyone who knew how to make them could make them.

>>54586660
Is the lifeforce increase from King permanent or temporary?

>>54587067
As long as you keep that Darkness in you, the increase will stay.

>>54587050
>It's a repeatable phenomenon that doesn't require the intervention of a wizard to work. Anyone who knew how to make them could make them.

That is true for several magical systems in a large number of settings. Please stop this.

>>54587102
Fine. Whatever. Anything that people in a setting think is magic is magic, even if they're objectively wrong and the setting outright says this. I don't care. I was just sharing a little tidbit about the Etrian Odyssey games that I thought was neat, I wasn't expecting this to turn into a thing.

>>54587098
If you take King and The Light, would there still be negative consequences to taking the light of other people in? Like, I don't know, becoming dangerously happy?

>>54587146
Possibly. Too much of a good thing and all.

>>54586723
Robots vs meat machines

>>54587154
Hmm. Could you balance it out by taking equal parts Darkness and Light?

>>54587217
Nnnoooot really? You'd just be feeling extreme amounts of both those emotions trying to force themselves on you at the same time.

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>>54583764
>Family power
...Pinwheel?

>>54587258
Something akin to that, yes.

>>54583764
Possession seems really strong.

>>54587280
It is? Of all things I wouldn't have expected that. What do you find so strong about it?

>>54587258
>>54587265
Oh hey I wasn't the only one that thought of that. Neat.

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Jumper may have mantled Pelinal Whitestrake. Where should he go now?

>>54587301
Nowhere, mantling means you stay there.

>>54587301
Eragon.

>>54587296
Mostly the combination of full control, the ability to draw on the possessed person's energy, and the ability to give them access to all your abilities as well. Like, I don't see how it wouldn't be good.

>>54587341
Well, yes, but only if you successfully take over their body, which can be resisted and leaves you undefended on the outside of their body. It doesn't seem very different from any other possession ability you might find a ghost or parasite possessing.

>>54587301
Eragon
Commoragh
Brettonia

>>54587359
I guess. How does Possession work in relation to Recoil? If you force someone you're possessing to kill or arrange them to be killed by someone else, do you still get hit by it, or do they?

>>54587391
If you kill a World Devil while possessing someone, you'd still get the Recoil yourself, being primarily in control of the person. If your possessing body gets killed in some other way, like it being directly attacked without hitting you, you wouldn't die along with them.

Is Clover still among us? Have questions 'bout Sunless Zee.

>>54587258
>Imagine if the mother and father masks started fucking in the middle of the boss fight
>While the son uses 'his sword' to fight you

WHY

>>54587428
What about using summons or producing things like demons or clowns?

>>54587335
No, it just means you don't keep the power when you move on. You still walked like them till they walked like you.

>>54587340
Good idea.

>>54587389
>Brettonia
What's that? What are the elves like?

>>54587444
You know those aren't just masks, and concept art shows Pinwheel is three stitched together bodies You're now imagining the robes flailing about as corpse parents fuck inside of it.

>>54587458
Long as they are independent beings, that should let you get around the Recoil.

>>54587473
Brettonia is Warhammer Camelot, but everyone is basically a mythical knight. Their "fairies" are in reality deceptive wood elves and their "lady of the lake" is actually an elf goddess. They end up being cool enough that the Elf Goddess turns around and sacrifices herself for them.

>>54587428
>If your possessing body gets killed in some other way, like it being directly attacked without hitting you, you wouldn't die along with them.
Hmm. I feel like there's room here for a really fucking evil combat style of forcing your enemies to kill their allies so they have to suffer Recoil, but I don't know of anything off the top of my head that could force the attacks of enemies to hit the Possessed body. Some form of intangibility? Would the energy form serve?

>>54587473
Brettonia is a Warhammer Fantasy faction with its' own jump. Think English/French knight-based mythology all mushed together, grail quests, chivalry, etc. They worship the "Lady of the Lake", who is actually an elven goddess who is manipulating them and using them as a meat-shield for the wood elves.

>>54587518
>They end up being cool enough that the Elf Goddess turns around and sacrifices herself for them.
No, she sacrifices herself for her latest boyfriend and their daughter, and the Brettonians leave her to die, after ensuring her new dimension is destroyed.

>>54587521
Er, if they just killed your possessed body and not you, they wouldn't get hit with Recoil and it's entirely possible to kill you without killing the ally. What I said there was that you'd get hit with Recoil if you used someone you were possessing to kill a Devil.

Energy form could work, as long as they don't hit your physical form in the centre of it.

>>54587518
>>54587524
Ah. Time to put spears through some knife ears.

>>54587553
Go forth my son, with the blessing of the Nine.

>>54587542
What's the max level of power Physical Enhancement can get you if you buy it 3-4 times and apply it to your whole body? Preferably for both Strength, Durability, and Speed.

>>54587140
Hey? Shut the fuck up and stop being a pedant. I don't want to be accused of the shitposter but this kind of behavior is why we don't like SB because this kind of pedantic bullshit is encouraged there.

>>54587635
>pedant
>we
>SB
Huh, learned a new word eh Shitposter-Kun?

>>54587621
Probably in the range of destroying multiple whole city blocks with each blow. You're spreading it over your whole body so it's going to lose out a bit.

>>54587677
Alright then, looks like I might just take Power Suit instead. Although, what would happen if you take it 4 times and apply it soley to your eyes?

>>54587724
Um. Nothing? It's for enhancing strength, speed or durability. Not physical senses.

>>54587724
Strength, I mean. The other two attributes would be pretty useless on eyes, I guess.

>>54583764
If we go as a Cheshire Devil, does it matter what location we chose?

>>54587730
Oh. I thought it could be used to enhance your strength of vision or something like that. What a shame.

>>54587730
But I bet I could crush rocks by blinking on them.

>>54587737
Not terribly much.

>>54587731
You can manage to blink and move your eyes even when under billions of atmospheres of pressure. Sadly you would then be crushed by those billions of atmospheres of pressure, but you'd be able to move your eyes while it's happening.

I suppose you could try to leverage it by stabbing stuff into your eyes though.

>>54586902
The magic boost remains with you between forms, mainline because dragons shapeshift canonically and don't seem any worse off for it. The same applies to other races.

>>54587749
Blink really damn fast too, and take a gunshot to the eyeball without even flinching.

>>54587746
Oh, here I was thinking you were planning to use the floating eyes as ridiculous projectiles that can crush more or less anything.

>>54587730
Can I just check with you to see if I'm understanding correctly?
If you get King and the Light, it doesn't invert the King's properties to work off of Light, it still works off of Darkness. Am I right?
But you still get the benefits of the perks as they stand, they just don't affect one another, allowing you to be strong in both Light and Darkness and you have to find a way to balance them out or specialise, either way you are going to be influnced by them?

>>54587802
Nah, he's saying all focused solely on strength.

Hey, do the optional boosts from taking both capstone boosters in the CoD IW jump replace the combined effect of both boosters normally? Like, with Anthropic Universe, do you lose the tone shifting power?

>>54587782
Is it possible to give this setting, Sekai Oni, a happy ending for everyone, Val? Or is it pretty much doomed for one or the other world?

>>54587820
No. If you get both, King will now also be able to gather positive emotions if you want. That said, it doesn't protect you from the downsides of overusing King, and an overwhelming amount of Negative or Positive emotions can be dangerous to you if you don't have a strong enough will to resist the influence those emotions you've taken on push on you.

Even if you take equal amounts of both, they don't cancel each other out. Negative and Positive emotions are very broad categories and few of those feelings will be exact opposites. This means that taking them both on will mean you are having to fend off both of the types.


Also, going to bed cause it's past 2AM. Any questions left, I'll get to em soon as I wake up.

>>54587812
I'm sure you'd impress many with your eye popping techniques.

>>54587795
Alright, thanks.

>>54587875
One last one.

It's possible. Not with in setting things but if you bring the right out of setting stuff you could do it.

>>54587795
Are the other races also known for shapeshifting or is this an arbitrary thing?

>>54587891
Well, if it popped your eyes, it wouldn't be very impressive, would it?

>>54587905
Not 'shapeshifting' per se, but just hiding their supernatural features to blend in with humans is really, really common. They tend to look pretty human at base most of the time anyhow.

So kind of arbitrary, kind of canon.

>>54587916
It's a matter of semantics and whether you're popping eyes or astonishing others with your eye popping eye popping display.

>>54587975
Ah, but if you popped your eyes while trying to display an eye popping show, it wouldn't be really eye popping, would it? No, you need enough strength to pop the eyes of your enemies while your own eyes remain unpopped. Only this way can you truly pop the eyes of your audience.

>>54587667
I'm literally not the shitposter but I can't stand that kind of trite hairsplitting. Not everyone who criticizes SB is the shitposter. Fuck off.

>>54587897
Question for when you wake up. Is it possible to reach the King's level of power with just training your life energy or is it something that was possible soley through his absorption of other's darkness?

>>54588004
Popping your eyes while showing off your eye popping is eye popping for all the wrong reasons and clearly unprofessional unless that was your intent. I suppose if you're trying to pop eyes with your eye popping then that would be some eye popping eye popping eye popping though, was that your intent all along? If so, I'll have to say sorry because I thought your eye popping eye popping fighting style wasn't focused on popping enemy eyes as much as smashing the rest of the body.

>>54588070
>something that was possible soley through his absorption of other's darkness?
This is obvious.

>>54584252
I rarely even look at it but I remember a write-up posted it months ago, it was about a nonviolent Amazon in Ranma 1/2 IIRC.
Does anyone know what happened of it? I never found the rest of the chain.

>>54587875
Seeing that the problem is inherent to the setting metaphysics, you would need the power to change that...

>>54588092
Not really? Here's the relevant perk text:
>The more Darkness you gain, the greater your Life Force will grow.
Which suggests that absorbing Darkness simply enhances the growth speed of your Life Force.

I remember tjere being a book that had the laws and rules of all magic in it from a jump, or maybe Im misremembering that part, but there was a cp buy book that allowed you to rewrite the laws of magic if magic were broken somewhere, anyone know what that is from or how it is worded?

>>54587795
On a related note is DxD magic externally or internally generated?

Also was I right in guessing that the Smiling Man is something like Lorkhan or one of the other aspects of Padomay?

>>54588146
Slayer Manual from Buffy.

>>54588170
Thank you.

Wait, has something changed recently? Is DxD kosher to use now?

>>54588150
I'd say most of the energy used for magic is internal (due to mana), while the act of using it depends on external factors like calculations and whatnot.

Sadly, no.
>>54588189
It...never wasn't kosher, to my knowledge? I remade the jump from the ground up when Strike gave up on it and gave the green light. Though it still needs a tune-up, it's basically a new jump now.

>>54586581
Well that seems like bullshit, but knowing Val and Cracker_Jack that's kosher.

Wonderful.

>>54588384
Stop bitching and either suck it up or leave.

>>54586581
You're gonna need to pay the cost for it, though. It's not like "this is mine now", you have to be able to give upkeep.

>>54588605
Bullshit.

Quick question about the Kamigawa Bolas scenario, if you stopped time would the rift still weaken you?

>>54588605
What?

>>54588645
Considering it's a rift in time... maybe?

>>54588765
Just a cunt trying to nerf a perk combo.

>>54588605
That's not how Hell Lord works.

For those of you following my newer chain...

TRIAL BY FUCKING FIRE.

Jump 1: Kamen Rider Heisei Part 1
Origin: Wanderer [900]
Perks:
Wandering
Revival [800]
Smile [600]
Decision [400]
Myself [300]
Crossroads - Mighty [100]
Strengthening [100]
Good Cook [0]

Items:
"It's Kuuga!"
Trychaser 2000 [0]
Horse Armor [400]

Drawbacks:
This Is Serious, Right? [100]
Riverprone [200]
Enroaching Darkness [600]

Kuuga is a really good show. Full write-up coming...eventually. This is gonna be long.

>>54584995
If taken with Madness Wavelength, and if you have enough raw power to go toe to toe with them? Pretty fucking terrifying. Keep in mind, as a World Devil you're destroying reality just by existing. You could destroy the universe within months, weeks, or (if you're as powerful as the King was), hours. With Madness Wavelength and Clowns, you're also distorting and warping reality just by existing, and creating nightmarish abominations at the same time. Abominations that cannot be killed as long as they stay within range of your Madness Wavelength, so unless they're removed or cut off from your Wavelength, they'll just keep regenerating, an army of immortal monsters. You showing up with all that and the raw power to fight off the Justice League or the Avengers or whatever, would make you the most terrifying threat they've ever encountered

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>>54588838
>Kuuga is a really good show

Yes it is

Give me 8 jumps, anon.

>>54589077
Stranger Things
Duel Monsters: Shadow Realm

>>54589077
High school DxD

>>54589077
Armored Core
Demon Souls
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 3
Bloodborne
Megaman Zero
Young Justice
Kamen Rider Showa Part 1

>>54589077
The Incredibles

>>54589077
Night in the Woods if you're going to writ for it. Mega Man Classic otherwise.

Rolled 7 (1d8)

>>54589119
>>54589141
>>54589151
>>54589176
1: Stranger Things
2: High School DxD
3: Armored Core
4: Dark Souls
5: Megaman Zero
6: Young Justice
7: The Incredibles
8: Night in the Woods

>>54589077
One vote against Night in the Woods.

>>54589302
That's not how this works you soggy lettuce.

>>54589302
Font got you down?

Do we have any perks to let you count as human no matter what form you're in or modifications you make?

>>54587301
Dwarf Fortress.

>>54589465
There's one in Robocop, but it only counts mentally. Do you mean physically?

>>54589465
For what specifically?

Why do people think the Endbringers are interesting? The more I read about them, the more they come off as really badly executed plot devices which take up disproportionate amounts of the narrative to accomplish nothing(Besides killing all tension and worsening the tone). You'd think that the whole dangerous, monolithic, alien enemy that humanity has to come together in a struggle to survive against thing hasn't been done a hundred times and better every one, but it seems like the writer just wanted to make them as unbeatable as possible, and went out of their way to render everything that happens with them meaningless and inevitable. What the fuck?

>>54589513
More mind and soul.

>>54589562
>hurr durr I don't like the writing in a free webnovel i haven't even read
I mean, I'm not exactly Wildbow's biggest fan, but come on.

>>54589562
They're big and strong and people feel the need to measure dicks.

>>54589562
Welcome to Wildbow's stuff. I mostly like them because they sound cool and they're basically smaller kaiju. That's pretty much it really.

>>54589562
They're good opponents for midchain Jumpers

>>54589562
Your whole comment is basically saying nothing. Good job.

>>54589634
Or very early chain Jumpers

>>54589601
>>54589630
>>54589634
But they're pointless. They literally don't matter at all to the overarching plot, they aren't even resolved as a conflict. They're just there, casual planetbusters with more durability than an entire universe, harassing population centers because suffering until they stop mattering.

>>54585431
Rather belatedly... Forgotten Realms jump. I had a chain where I went Healer. It's large a support class from the Miniatures Handbook. Cleric but not as good, except when it comes to healing, where you can apply your charisma bonus to any amount you heal. So if you cast cure minor wounds, instead of healing one point you'd heal like... five or six, depending on your charisma.

>>54589565
Anon, It's You from Robocop could do that, if you stretch the interpretation a bit.
I can't think of a good perk of that kind that explicitly factors in the soul though. Except maybe Heart of a Child from Narnia:
>This also improves your resistance to telepathic influence, magical curses of despair, and other similar effects.
You might be able to interepret it, since it includes helping you against magic and there being a tentaive link between magic and the soul, as being able to help the soul remain consistent along with your mind and personality, maybe.
Outside of that, anon, I'm afriad I can't help you out..

>>54589717
Yes, causing suffering is their entire point. That's their purpose. And they have the mass of a galaxy, not an entire universe. And besides, mass isn't equal durability. Hit 'em with some ability that ignored mass plus some way to attack through dimensional barriers, and they're toast. Hell, Eidolon in his prime could have done it.

>>54589717
Look anon, I understand, really I do, but the people here who actually care about tasteful story elements here are far and few in between. The reasons people care about a lot of things (Beating hyped up things like the Endbringers, humiliating Gilgamesh, collecting waifus.) are more personal or ego based rather than narrative based.

>>54589562
>>54589717
Read the webnovel and then you'll understand. Until then, ssh.

>>54586864
You should see the latest game.

>>54589717
In part, you're right. The Endbringers are largely irrelevant to the big picture if you're looking at them as "kaiju smash" opponents.

Here's the thing: They really aren't. They're not the big bad, out to wipe out everything. Hell, their attacks are plays with audience fatalities.

What they are is pretty much the self destructive impulses of one of the big conspirators fucking over whatever the new possible solution to the real enemy turns out to be.

As for not mattering for the overarching plot... The Simurgh is actually more relevant to the overarching plot than Eidolon is.

>>54589562
>>54589717

Yes we know Widow is a hack.

>>54589859
You jelly?

>>54589873
Nah, he's salt.
Salty jelly

>>54589886
An aspic?

>>54589873
He's realized that a free webnovel is more relevant to the world than he is. Of course he is.

>>54589873
Most people who insult Wildbow seem to love to ignore how much of an accomplishment Worm was. It's publishable quality, produced by one guy with a blistering update speed. Me personally I can't help but assume that, yes, some of those people are motivated by envy over knowing that they could never do what he did.
Most of the 'problems' are from the fact is was one guy on his own making it, which is bound to make for some issues, misunderstandings from people who never actually read the webnovel, just fanfic, but think themselves well-imformed experts, or are just plain wrong and more often than not salty assholes.

>>54589886
Urh, that reminds me of salted caramel. Do not see how anyone can like that stuff.

>>54589919
Hehe. Yeah, didn't see it that way, but yeah, that's funny.

>>54589976
As someone who actually read the webnovel as it was being published, yeah. It's good, like any story it has it's rough patches. But all the criticism that I've heard is been bull from idiots who admit they've never read it and never want to, but still just have to voice on opinion over something they admit not knowing anything about. Stupid, but also pretty funny.

>>54589976
I like it well enough. The bullshit he spouts outside of the story is what annoys me. But death of the author and all that.

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>>54589976
>>54589873
These posts are irritating me. They're conflating popularity with quality and dislike/personal taste with jealousy. These are like two of the biggest sins of countering criticism, something only the most arrogant creator or sheltered deviantartlet would seriously say.

>>54583421
Messy, there was entirely to much tongue involved and she didn't have any lips at the time. I got used to it.

>>54589976
I liked Worm, but couldn't get into Pact or Twig.

>>54590123
K.

>>54589976
Most of my problems with Worm are a matter of taste, not of quality.
Sure, it's got its issues, but i've seen works by highly successful authors that were worse from a technical standpoint, so that's hardly a dealbreaker. No story is absolutely perfect.

No, my issue with Worm is that it's simply too depressing for my tastes.
I like it when good people fight through adversity and get their happy ending. I like it when villains see the light and find some measure of redemption. I can appreciate a good "the way to hell is paved with good intentions" story too.

But "muahahahaha, let's kill cities full of people FOR THE EVULZ" and "everybody suffers for no or little reason, then they die - messily" stories aren't my cup of tea.

I like Worm's worldbuilding. I like some of the characters. I like some fanfics (that deviate from the original flavor). But the story itself isn't my cup of tea.
If i want suffering i can watch the news.

>>54590123
>implying the posts in this thread were criticism
That was simply childish whining, posts without substance. They should be responded to as such.

>>54590123
>inb4 "lol samefagging to support yourself?"

>>54590123
Welcome to /jc/, debate and well-worded arguments are not relevant here compared to ad hominem and shitposting.

>>54589976
I mean, you can ignore all its faults or dismiss them however you want, they aren't wrong. The Endbringers and Scion are the dumbest parts of Worm, and it could have easily been avoided if they weren't just Overpowered window dressing plot devices. It's clear if you just compare them and what they do to similar beings and their roles in other works of fiction. Sing the praises of Worm all day, it won't change the fact that it's made lesser by the ridiculous power levels.

>>54590133
I haven't read Twig, but I did read Pact and Worm.
Pact was really sad, and it's ending was trying hard to be bittersweet and instead was just bitter. A good read if you don't concern yourself too much with a happy ending.

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>>54590123
You jelly? Salted Jelly?

>>54590170
I agree with everything you've said. Have a Cookie Monster.

Yeah sure, Worm is pretty good all things considering. It's an accomplishment for an amateur (?) writer for something to achieve this much of a fanbase and attention.

Can we at least acknowledge that wildbow is a huge dick though? Because good god man, calm it down with the setting inflation. Does he just hate his own fans or something?

>>54590182
Whiner. Go a read a book.

>>54590176
The posts about the endbringers were, even if you didn't agree with them. The ones calling him a hack are a valid opinion about his work, which you two dismissed as 'jealousy'.

That's the entire point, the way you dismissed it was angry author tier defensiveness.

>>54590210
I liked the clever wordplay and rules-lawyering and the mechanics of things, but sometimes it was hard to keep it all straight and there were times in the story happened for confusing reasons and I was just like 'okay that happened, no idea why, let's just move on rather than try to puzzle it out'.

I've never read Twig. Can someone give me a rundown on it, please.

>>54590266
>The ones calling him a hack are a valid opinion about his work
>Calling someone a hack is a vlid opinion.
Go home, anon. You're drunk.

>That's the entire point, the way you dismissed it was angry author tier defensiveness.
Didn't you know? We are all Wildbow here, anon! Even you!

>>54590170
These are valid opinions and criticisms.

Worm is a very dark and depressing work. The closest it comes to triumph and bright happy endings is 9mm brain surgery and "Yay! We didn't die horrifically yet!"

Obviously, this isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea. The story has some rough patches and plot holes - both of which could be attributed to the fact that it's a self-published webnovel that didn't have a typical editing cycle. Not that works that are professionally edited and published always avoid either pitfall.

I do object to people declaring things about the contents without having ever read it, based solely on what they've heard or what they read in some fanfiction version of it.

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>>54590181
There's nothing to debate. There's nothing to argue. There's no actual facts being discussed, only matters of taste and subjective opinions.

That's why this pyramid here goes right out the window. You can't refute the central point when there is no central point. You can't provide sources and backup for your facts when there are no facts.

Hey Nuval if I take witch with the cat race is there any way not have plant themes, I dont much like plants.

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Since I'm adding an "Organization" section to Generic Creepypasta, what types of options would you guys like to see in it?

>>54590339
From an outside perspective I thought the central point was "Why do people in Jumpchain care so much about the Endbringers?" but it looked like it became something else after that.

>>54589976
Yeah, okay. But wouldn't it be better if there was some tonal variance occasionally? If the worldbuilding tied into the plot more rather than just serving as background material that isn't actually entirely necessary for inclusion? If the Endbringers weren't as literally unbeatable as they are, and weren't actually holding back the entire time, so the parts dealing with them have more actual stakes and engagement, instead of just reading like a long list of casualties?

Like, if you like Worm, that's fine, but recognize some fault in it.

>>54590391

My own Men in black or SCP foundation or Area 51

>>54590391
A talent for containing weird shit effectively and efficiently. Or the ability to figure out how to contain shit effectively and efficiently.

>>54590391
I don't know man, does it really fit? Besides SCP I don't remember there being much focus on organizations in pasta.

>>54590393
It's the telephone effect in action, coupled with reactionary posts.

>>54583177

Don't know if I am too late, but the Age-Age Devil Fruit (700CP) from One Piece is what you want. You can change a person's age with a touch for a max of one year a second. It is a bit pricey, but worth it in my opinion as the age powered fruits have been shown to also work on the users.

>>54590391
Hey, can you answer >>54581333

>>54590384
Mmmm, no direct way I don't think. I mean you can just ignore like 90% of the "plant theme" by going headstrong into your magic's theme if that helps. Blair having pumpkins/halloween is what it's based on, but her aesthetic in the story focused mostly around Halloween, being sexy and being a cat. Picking something like Wolfsbane for Wolves, Mistletoe for Christmas, Nightshade for Poison, Sunflowers for Sun or other such themes are definitely applicable.

>>54590321
Yeah, it is a valid opinion. Negative opinions are valid senpai.

>>54590517
>Negative opinions are valid senpai.
Red will never be your waifu, Timmy.

>>54590433
I think he's wanting a way to bring someone back from the dead as a living person (instead of undead) when they died of old age as opposed to something violent. The Age Age fruit would only working on someone alive, wouldn't it?

>>54590413
The Endbringers are indicative of the hopelessness in the setting. They arrive like clockwork. They are never truly dealt with, only warded off to reduce the destruction. The destruction has become routine, the ongoing genocide reduced to being little more than the top headline for a brief time until the next attack in a few months.

They are, ultimately, background elements. This is even moreso when you remember that the story is (mostly) first person from an unreliable narrator. Taylor doesn't have perfect information, and even when she does have all the facts she still often draws the wrong conclusion.

Remember: Every main character is psychologically broken in some way.

>>54590391
I give my vote to this too >>54590425
>>54590545
Not him, but what does have to do with what he said?

>>54590426
Eh, I feel like there are enough stories with government conspiracies, secret shadow organizations and the like for it to fit. Plus it helps give the other origins an equivalent to the Cryptid Perks section.

>>54590449
I think it would depend on the souls and the magic system to be honest. In systems where souls are distinctly separate from magic then probably not.

>>54590545
And Worm won't be yours.

>>54590545
I'm struggling to figure out how the fuck you came to the conclusion that someone is the shitposter for defending the opinion that Wildbow/Worm sucks.

>>54590550
Did anything ever come of this, mate?

>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/54529318/#54530759
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/54529318/#54530903

>>54590426
Nigga, have you never heard of the Men in Black?