Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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Traps make me stone hard, specially the ones made by Perty.

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Is Warhammer paint flammable?

>>54572706
Nope. Water based.

>>54572706
Sprays/aerosols yes, duh.

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Can anyone gimme size comparision of Daemon Prince and Eldar Wraithlord? Is it good idea to use Wraithlord as base for Tzeench DP conversion?

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Rifleman Dreadnoughts got axed in the codex but Mortis Dreadnoughts are still thing in the FW Index. You couldn't make them with the kits anyway, needing FW or 3rd party arms so honestly makes sense to remove them for the main book.

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>>54572660
Has anyone tried Coteaz yet? I love his model, but he seems very okay for 100 points. Being able to cast 2 Powers is nice, but the other powers outside of Smite are okay. His Spy Network ability is only okayish if you have Acolytes out of transports, which is a terrible idea. Him not having a -1 to hit on his hammer makes up for the fact that he's WS3+. Psyber-eagle is just a slightly better to slightly worse Storm Bolter.

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FOR THE DARK CITY!!! (What's left of it) Anyone know any nice systems in the webway that at vancant?

>>54572706
Not wet, but dried paint it. Try smoking some to unlock the power of duncan!

>>54572706
Apart from the spray cans, no.

>>54572758
thats the first one of these gifs that look cool

I am trying to use PrinceXML to export the extracted xhtml from the epub but I can't get it to be full page, how do?

The conversion works fine but it doesn't make it a full A4 page, it has a massive amount of whitespace along all the edges. Is there any way I can make it scale to the full A4 sized page with no border?

I've tried the --page-size=A4 command line option to no avail. --page-margin=0mm pushes it to the top left corner but doesn't expand it to the rest of the page.

Any more feedback on this list? Want to get it perfect before ordering from China.

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Adepta Sororitas) ++
Celestine: Celestine, 2x Geminae Superia
Canoness: Condemnor Boltgun, Power sword
Battle Sister Squad (9): 2x Flamer, Combi-flamer, Power maul
Battle Sister Squad (9): 2x Flamer, Combi-flamer Power maul
Battle Sister Squad (5): Heavy Bolter
Battle Sister Squad (5): Heavy Bolter
Dominion Squad (5): 4x Meltagun, Combi-melta
Dominion Squad (5): 4x Meltagun, Combi-melta
Seraphim Squad (10): 2x Twin inferno pistols, Plasma pistol
Repressor
Repressor
Rhino
Rhino

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium) ++
Greyfax
Vindicare Assassin
Vigilators (5)
Vigilators (5)
Null-Maiden Rhino
Lightning Strike Fighter

++ Total: [114 PL, 1999pts] ++

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Building an Inquisition themed army. Probs gonna be Ordo Hereticus. So far I got Greyfax and some scions. I plan to get 2 squads of acolytes with storm bolters although not sure if I should use chimeras or rhinos for transport. Also ordered 5 crusaders and will prob include a priest to buff them. What else would be good to get? I thought about getting a land raider for some heavy firepower but not sure if it would work in my force as I only plan on doing about 1k points.

>>54572748
And what if I had a venerable dread with autocannons? I am fucked now.

>>54572840

Why not use Taurox or even Taurox Primes?

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [12 PL, 153pts] ++

+ HQ +

Company Commander [3 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol

Company Commander [3 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Elites +

Commissar [2 PL, 31pts]: Bolt pistol

Commissar [2 PL, 31pts]: Bolt pistol

Commissar [2 PL, 31pts]: Bolt pistol

++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [86 PL, 1847pts] ++

+ HQ +

Tempestor Prime [2 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Plasma Pistol

Tempestor Prime [2 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Plasma Pistol

Tempestor Prime [2 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Plasma Pistol

+ Troops +

Conscripts [4 PL, 75pts]: 25x Conscript

Conscripts [3 PL, 60pts]: 20x Conscript

Conscripts [5 PL, 120pts]: 40x Conscript

Conscripts [6 PL, 150pts]: 50x Conscript

Conscripts [6 PL, 150pts]: 50x Conscript

Conscripts [6 PL, 150pts]: 50x Conscript

+ Elites +

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 64pts]
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 64pts]
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 64pts]
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun

+ Fast Attack +

Scout Sentinels [2 PL, 50pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Autocannon

Scout Sentinels [2 PL, 50pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Autocannon

Scout Sentinels [2 PL, 50pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Autocannon

+ Heavy Support +

Manticore [7 PL, 133pts]: Heavy Bolter

Manticore [7 PL, 133pts]: Heavy Bolter

Manticore [7 PL, 133pts]: Heavy Bolter

Manticore [7 PL, 133pts]: Heavy Bolter

Manticore [7 PL, 133pts]: Heavy Bolter

++ Total: [98 PL, 2000pts] ++

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Should I drop manticores for more plasma scions? Or will 3 overheating squads be enough?

>>54572736
Wraithlord's taller but much lankier.

>>54572856
For which squad? Can't tauroxes only transport AM infantry?

>>54572849
You use the index datasheet.

>>54572849

There's a community post that says you can just do it anyhow.

>>54572840
Chimeras are the superior transport. If you can't fit a LR, a quad-las Pred is only like 200 points.

>>54572869
Holy fuck battlescribes formatting is god awful

>>54572872

Authority of the Inquisition lets you take any Imperial Transport! And Acolytes, Inquisitors, and (now) Jokari all have that rule.

>>54572869
I'm not playing against that unless all of those conscripts are fully painted.

>>54572880
>Chimeras are the superior transport.
Why's that. I was gonna go with rhinos because FW still does the Inquisition doors which would look really nice.

>>54572840
I agree Taurox Primes are the shit.
>>54572872
Acolytes get Authority of the Inquisition rule so they can take any Imperium transport. Taurox Primes are great, BS3+ and they get an assload of guns.
>>54572840
Deep striking Scions with Meltas do good work as heavy guns. You can also get an Inquisitor in Terminator armor for deepstriking Smite and to aid the Scions. Land Raiders are fun and super hard to kill, but you don't have anything good to put in them besides Acoltyes and Greyfax. Plus at 1000 points, they take up about a 1/3 of your army's points. You can use a Leman Russ Tank Commanders for firepower too.

>>54572906
Did tauroxes get better in the new edition??

>>54572916
Transport order is liek this

Taurox Prime > Chimera > Taurox > Rhino

Taurox Prime has tons of guns and good BS, Chimera holds a lot more and still has a good amount of guns, Taurox can have 4 Autocannon shots and all the Rhino can have is 2 Storm Bolters and a Hunter killer, which all the others can basically have too and more.

https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2017/07/games-workshop-sales-profit-skyrocket/

Redpill me on this.

Is GW about to be taken over by Disney or something?

How do I make Redemptors viable? Maybe I could run a few of them hanging around Gulliman so the rerolls make them worth their points?

But of course, I play Blood Angels, so no Gulliman.

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>>54572916
Better weapon choices, mostly.

>>54572952
Kys.

Are the rocket launchers worth it for Taurox?

>>54572929

Regular Taurox are about the same.
Primes got better because Missiles are better, and they made their Gatling Cannon heavy 20.

But the biggest issue with them before was their point cost. They didn't go up much, but Rhinos and Chimeras did.

>>54572944
>>54572961
Hmm so either tauroxes or chimeras then. What's the optimal loadout on each?

>>54572958
>2008 points
Kill yourself my man

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Has anyone painted this guy as moon man?

>>54572974

Depends! Since I play Tempestus as a standalone army, I think they are for sure, since they don't have squad heavy weapons.

I run 4 Primes, two with the Missile Launchers. Then I rely on Sentinels for other heavy shooting.

>>54572984

It's not exact :) I have 4 familiars so could drop one, just making sure the core is ok

>>54572987
No, but now I want to.

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>>54572706

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>convert chaos terminators with combi-plasmas for the 8th edition
>find out that option won't be in the new codex

>>54572983
For Chimera I personally like Storm Bolter, 2x Heavy Bolters, but you can have 2 Heavy Flamers, you just pay a lot for it.

For Taurox Prime I like Gatling Cannon, Hotshot Volley guns and Storm Bolter. It works even better because a full Acolyte squad with Storm Bolters inside of it means you're shitting out tons of S4 firepower at something.

>>54572993
How are Sentinels performing for you? I have yet to use them because of the -1 to hit on heavy weapons. I took them all the time last edition for the reason of shooting heavy weapons at 4+ on the go.

>>54572660
What Weapon Options are good for Chaos contemptor Dreadnoughts or Havocs?

really struggling against stuff like Land-Raiders and pretty much everything T7+

Is the Contemptor Soulburner thing decent?
Havocs with Las-Cannons or Rocket-launchers?

>>54573027
Just use the index rules then.

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>>54573027

>>54572983
Heavy Flamers on the Chimera IMO, because Guard can't shoot straight.

Almost always rock the Heavy 20 Gatling Cannon on the TP. Taurox Battle Cannon is neat, but you have more reliable options for midstrength weapons.

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https://warhammer40000.com/store/games-workshop-enfield-london/#gw-league-table

JUST

>>54572993

I'm building a stand alone army actually. Could you give me some advice?

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>>54573027

How do you know that?

>>54573027
Why you think so?

>>54573030

They're ok. Similar to the Taurox, they didn't get more expensive, so they're decent. I obviously try to keep them stationary, and make sure I load them up with non-single shot weapons. I'm a big fan of Autocannons with 2 shots and a straight 2 damage.

>>54572987
Holy fuckin shit
>moondaemon goes around gunning down imperial welfare lines with his AR-15- I mean staff
>Nurlge shitskins get wiped out by the Kool Kaos Klan mafia

>>54573068
I tried to give away my points to Chaos so it would matter some, but obviously it won't at all.

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>>54573068
Don't worry Anon we're picking up the slack here in the states.

As soon new 40k player here, how annoying would be for you guys to play against a newbie that keeps asking questions about this and that?
Let's say he knows the core rules and his own army special/advanced rules but doesn't know your army rules and asks about every single special rule that applies to your army once you apply them in-game.

All of these rules seem to kind of makes sense to me but I won't know for sure until I play and get to practice those rules / remember them. Without playing, I can't really learn every single rule for every army and shit and I don't wanna be a pain in the ass.

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>>54573106
>getting Xenos to carry your worthless asses

>>54573071

Deep Striking is their bread and butter. I usually take 4 Primes, 4-6 Scion squads.2 Command Squads (1 plas/1 melta) and 2 Tempestor Primes. Filling out the rest with Sentinels, I deep strike as much as possible with boat loads of Melta and Plasma while holding the front line with the Taurox and Sentinel armor.

>>54573109
Its ok, some people even ask before the game "wanna know what my stuff do?"

>>54573091
I've been debating between Autocannons and Missile Launchers. I figured D6 shot on the move and single shot when stationary, but I'll probably use Autocannons. Do you use Armored or Scout?

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>>54571019
>>54571034

I loved Warscythe Lychguards. 2A, S7, -4, 2d. What is there NOT to love?
But +1 attack, +5'' movement and <FLY> really makes the Praetorians stand taller in my book.

Lychguards are kinda reliant on the Nightscythe to get into melee with the enemy vehicles/dreadnaughts/characters; but the Nightscythe seldomly survive turn 1 after moving over the enemy line to drop the guards.

>I still think the Sword/Board lycheguards are the absolute most A E S T H E T I C.

>>54573109
Best way to learn honestly. There is usually at least one Bro teir player per LGS that will help ya out

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>tfw GW won't make plastic bezerkers

>>54573130

Armored. I run 9 of them, usually 2 squads with Autocannons and 1 with either Missile Launchers or Multilasers.

I have a squad of the Scout Sentinels, but haven't tried them out yet in 8th.

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>>54573121
>Mfw carrying Chaos.

>>54573109
Every grognard was a newbie once. Most people are glad to help someone just entering the hobby. Try to get a 2v2 game so your teammate can answer questions instead of your opponent, though.

>>54573027
you can just use index for that, index works as legacy setup and what isnt in codex but appears in index is perfectly legal
>>54573038
Fellow heretic, if you need a designated 8+ vehicles destroyer just go full lass cannons. Rocket launchers are great because of their profiles, but shitting out 12 wounds on average and wounding on 3+ instead of 4+ is much better imo.
Soulburner is alright

>>54572952
CONFIRMED KIRBY LEAVEING?!?!??!!?!?!

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>>54573148

>tfw GW won't make plastic berzerkers

>>54572987
It'd be a neat conversion idea. Just take that head, GS some sunglasses and find an appropriate body, preferably one with a suit and AR-15.

>>54573072
>>54573090
Not in the box = no rules, just like in the marine codex.

>>54573038
Consider a quad las Predator. As for havocs, lascannons obviously give you better anti-tank but at the expense of the useful anti-horde missiles provide. That's a call you'll have to make based on your army and meta.

>>54573177
Old news mate.

https://investor.games-workshop.com/2017/07/25/retirement-of-tom-kirby-as-non-executive-chairman/

>Games Workshop Group PLC (“Games Workshop” or the “Company”) today announces that Tom Kirby has advised the board of his intention to retire as a director of the Company with effect from the conclusion of the Company’s Annual General Meeting on 13 September 2017.

He will stay as a consultant for 12 months though.

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Post your FLGS's results
>chaosfags getting so royally BTFO they have 0 wins

>>54573154
>>54573125
>>54573137
Okay, thanks.

I don't know if here is the right place to ask. I recently finished the eisenhorn books and am about half way through cains books. What are some other good 40k books? I heard they are either hit or miss.

>>54573194
That sucks for old stuff but I like it in the long term.

That sort of thinking leads GW to include shit like 20 heads in a 10 man squad. 10 flamers and 10 bolters in the Rubric marine box.

>>54573217
>Zero Chaos recorderd
> Victory.

>>54573217
How many chaos players do you have, though? We only have 2 out of 20+ players.

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>>54573027
yeah i wanted to do a big mek with two kombi skorchas

fuck my life

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>>54573094
Now I want this drawn as a Plague Marine or Plaguebearer

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>>54573217
>No one in Iowa has reported a battle

>>54573253
Like 3 or 4 last time I checked. One of the store's owners is a World Eaters fag.

>>54573194
So its combi-meltas and bolters only?

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>>54573217
Better than this

>>54573217
How do you find your store's results?

>>54573284
Facebook or call those niggas get some shit on there!

>>54572831
Drop rhinos, get Immolators, make squads smaller and give them SB.

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>>54573217
The sheer excitement of my local.

The weird thing is, Thursday evening is when they open late for gaming. And yet it seems not a single Konor game got played (the results were exactly the same yesterday afternoon).

>>54573290
https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/
Scroll to the bottom, use the Store Finder to locate your FLGS.

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>>54573217
>>54573278
Here's ours.

>>54573217
>both players can choose to be Imperium so no matter what the Imperials get the points
I'm not a Chaosfag or Imperialfag but this shit is retarded.

>>54572981
>>54573030
Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it. Would it be worth getting a primaris psyker and what would be good for the army's heavy firepower. Las preds and sound good but I'm not sure if it would fit the fluff.

>>54573229
The first four or five Horus Heresy books are pretty good and they of course describe really important events for the setting. Descent of Angels is the first really bad book in that series. Still HH is an enjoyable read in general.

A few other recommendations are the Path of the Dark Eldar by Andy Chambers, and the Night Lords trilogy by ADB. Good books for getting the "bad guys" perspective.

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>>54573217
My store seems to have good variety.

>>54573148
I hope they'll be in MkV style like the current ones.

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>>54573106
I've seen the imperium-faggotry going on in these threads. I'm recording all my against the Imperium just to spite them.
>Probably won't matter but it's the thought that counts.

>>54573295
No. I want it to fail. I want it to fail so much that the man that they brought in to run my flgs is removed and they bring someone I'm who understands building community and not just run tournaments.
This is the reason I built a 10x8 table so I can play in my own house.

>>54572869
>guard turn one
>37 minutes later ...

>>54573351
NICE! I don't like all the Blown the fuck out results an actual struggle is so much better for the narrative.

>>54573229
Definitely read Master of Mankind, it's an in-depth look into the psyche of the Emperor himself.

>>54573359
>necrons
>allying with chaos
You bring shame on your dynasty phaeron.

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>>54573359
The Dark eldar will join you in this endeavor!

>>54573392
Its chaos androids

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>>54573375

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>>54573371
I agree, I don't want it to be lopsided. We had a blast doing a 3v3,1000 points each game yesterday. I was tempted to count my Guard as Renegade Guard for the event after that game, but I might not have to. Looks like everyone is trying to balance things out to make it more exciting.

This is another store nearby, but I don't go there. So it's good to see our area has these kinds of players.

>>54573230
This.

I can understand if they don't make any bits, but denying a unit or character certain wargear options because it's too hard to take them from another kit ("how do I put vanguard vet grav-pistol on my SM commander?") It's so frustrating especially with primarines, when you got next to no options for customization. And if you do, it's basically "replace bolter with another bolter" or "sergeant can take a power sword." What the fuck?

>>54573375
(you) behave.

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>>54573403
Ok, I chuckled. have a (You)

>>54573344

Rules-wise you're on solid group with Predators. Personally, when I'm mixing Inquisition I like to keep the miscellaneous forces to Guard and the Ordos Militant.

Which is why I take Sentinels and Taurox Primes, since they can carry good heavy weapons.

>>54573405
>>54573421
>people are STILL mad it didn't paint the Emperor in a sympathetic light
Did you not read The Last Church or some shit

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The Chaos Gods live in the immaterium, right?

How come no one has ever tired to found their strongholds and assault them?

>>54573434
>implying that's the only problem with MoM
Anybody have the screencap?

>>54573392
Unlike Oldcrons, Newcrons have no prejudice against Chaos.

Which is why you don't see Newcrons defending pylons or attacking Chaos in FoC.

>>54572906
So I can spend 8 points for an acolyte and just leave him in my chimera's to turn on the lasgun arrays...

>>54573441
>Seldom has the manse itself been breached successfully and have the intruders escaped with their lives. One incursion is said to have involved a squad of Fire Hawks Space Marines, a Chapter long since declared lost in the mortal realm. While Nurgle was preoccupied drowning a Lord of Change in his cauldron, the Space Marines arrived engulfed in an inferno of flame and bolter fire to reclaim their fallen captain, whom Nurgle’s minions had once overtaken all-too easily from Khorne’s Wrathgate. The Lord of Decay has his suspicions about the source of this event, laying blame at the feet of the Blood God for the foul deed, for while the Fire Hawks brought their inferno, several blood relics and skull-seeds also vanished from the garden.

-

>Ten Space Marines of the Fire Hawks Chapter slip through the ethereal void and enter the realms of Nurgle to free Captain Tirek, who is held captive within Nurgle’s manse. The Fire Hawks are enveloped in a spiritual fire, a cleansing inferno of their wrath made manifest. They fight their way through the thick, ever changing gloom and assault his dwelling, burning back the drips of ichor and clouds of spores. Fierce fighting rages throughout his oubliette, their weapons furiously dealing with diseased creatures. Their cleansing flame purges disease from the very air around them. The Fire Hawks’ incandescent attack results in the deaths of hundreds of the Nurgle’s subordinates. Having lost only two battle brothers in the melee, the Fire Hawks finally leave with Tirek. However, little do they realise that Nurgle’s Rot has taken root beneath their captain’s power armour, and the bubbling plague is spreading throughout his body. The Fire Hawks venture back out into the Immaterium, their captain slowly succumbing to disease, becoming a vector for the horrific Red Plague.

-Index Chaotica : Garden of Nurgle

>>54573461
Exactly. You can even hilariously have a single 8 point Acolyte in a Custodes Land Raider. Which would be my plan if I had the money. 1 Inquisitor and like 4 Acolytes, each having their own Custodes Land Raider, just to upset everyone.

Are agressors good or not ?

Salamander player here

What's comparable

>>54573441
>trying to find something that does not exist physically

Just like your girlfriend.

>>54573461
That is not a bad idea...

Give the Chimera all the HB and simply park it for some nice dakka.

>>54573109

I and everyone I know would be fine with it. Except one guy, but fuck him no one likes him anyway.

>>54573443
You've been asking this every time MoM is mentioned in the past how many threads it has come up and you still haven't got your screencap. Goes to show that the silent majority actually likes ADB's nuanced take on things.
>m-muh good guy emperor with a heart of gold
Jeez, I wonder how that fits in a grim, dark setting like 40k.

>>54573471

>10 marines can enter and exist Nurgle's garden

Imagine the Emperor, and 100,000 astartes assaulting that shithole and ravaging it in cleansing fire

Emps himself can easily take on Nurgle alone

>>54573448
They were there defending the pylons, Trazyn turned up with his men, told Cawl how some shit worked, let lose some guardsmen from his collection, and fucked off saving Creed when it finally fell.

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>>54573434
>bringing up The Last Church and not tipping your fedora

>>54573488
the chaos gods literally DO exist physically, you dumb cunt

>>54573523
No one cares
>>>/wip/

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>>54573508
Nope, they will all die. Emperor included. Nurgle is impossible huge. Large than the universe. Picture related. These are Stormcast Eternals encountering Nurgle himself.

>>54573434
I read the last church, that is a well written story that cards far more weight the more you know about the universe. MoM isn't even toilet paper.
It was written by a man who doesn't understand the difference between telling a story in a universe and telling a story to add to a universe.

>>54573525
The fuck are you talking about

>>54573501
What are you on about? This is the first time I've ever mentioned the screencap. I'm simply at work right now so I don't have it on me.
Are you so butthurt that people don't like your shitty BL fanfic that you think everyone who doesn't like it is the same person

>>54573512
No, they weren't. Trazyn arrived alone since his legions were totalled by the bell. And he didn't go to Cadia for anything else but on a whim.

>>54573531
Well I think it looks neat.

>>54573523
Good on you anon. Hope to see your work in the /wip/ threads!

>>54573501
Get fucked, I don't know precisely what screencap he's talking about, and MoM has been discussed to death. But silence about it in no way means anyone likes your complete turd of a book ADB, it, like Sister hats has gone straight to the "not in my headcannon" part of most people's 40k fluff.

>>54573538
Carnac?

>>54573538
AoS fluff isn't 40k fluff you mong

>>54573072
My dad works for Privateer Press.

>>54573550
>fanfic

Alan Merret okayed it. It's in the acknowledgements. Dude, was the supreme loremasters and IP manager. He decides what's canon and what's not.

And he liked MoM. You are the fanfic.

>>54573564

Sister hats?

>>54573485
Depends on your CAT I think. Ultras make Flame Agressors really scary. Raven Guard make Bolter Agressors really easy to use. Scars have fast Agressors, probably best used for Bolters but handy for either.

Salamanders up the offense and make them super lethal to hordes. But you'll probably want a Repulsor to get them into position.

>>54573568
Same Realm of Chaos and same gods. It's pretty much confirmed. Just showing you the form of Nurgle. No army can hope to defeat a being that vast.

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>>54573582

>>54573581
>muh BL fanfic garbage is totes real big boy canon you guys!!!1!
Fuck of ADB, nobody likes your or your daddy issue therapy novels

>>54573443
That screencap is shit, since it's mainly just butthurt about the Emprah not being Best Dad which is as sad as Chaos fanboys reeing whenever Chaos isn't portrayed as Best Stepdad, coupled with 'author's politics triggers me' shit from /pol/.

Real crime of that book is ADB basically used one of the Emperor's five or so monologues to basically hype up Abaddon and how he's going to be Horus 2.0. make none of his mistakes and is guaranteed to destroy the Imperium, and thus, plug his other book series. Which is shitty both from a fluff point of view and from courtesy to the ready that they shouldn't have a commercial for your other books worked into the climax of the book they've bought.

It's like if Abnett dropped constant references to Tanith into Know No Fear, and how great Tanith is, and how hardy the colonists are, what unstoppable badass soldiers they'll be in the future etc etc.

Poor form.

Rules question: the Lost and Damned Psyker coven: they don't have the same wording as the eldar Warlock squad; does each model (there are 5) cast it's own power in the psychic phase, or is it cast as a group?

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>>54573582

>>54573266
I want to fug that elf.

>>54573543
Still buttblasted that the Emperor was portrayed as a fucking retard asshole? Poor baby.

>>54573599
>Same Realm of Chaos and same gods.
Gonna need a source to that
>It's pretty much confirmed
Pretty much != id

>>54573528
>immaterium
>realm void of matter
>only dreams and souls
>having actual physical realm with physical structures and a physical god sitting at the center of it

The realms of the gods are manifestations, not tangible things. There is no mountain of skull floating in the warp you can nuke. There are no physical gardens. They are only seen through visions and dreams, when the god wants to lure you into their realm. Draigo's fluff says he can't attack the gods because they do not allow him to. If the realms of the gods were tangible, what would stop him from kicking in the door and going in? Only reason he could burn down Nurgle's garden was because Nurgle allowed him to enter it, probably thinking he could corrupt the Knight, only to have the plan backfire on him.

>>54573599

>it's THIS autist again

oh fucking hell lmao

>>54573607
Projecting much? I have a healthy relationship with my father and not once have I found ADB's writing to have the "daddy issues" that headcanon faggots keep whining about.

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>>54573538
Man, Spehs Muhreens/Emprah are such jobbing fags compared to the Stormcast/Sigmar.

>>54573217
My store's only got two games played apparently, and they're both Chaos wins.

>>54573632
>>54573621
It's Carnac, just report and ignore

>>54573607
>Acknowledgements

>Sincerest thanks to my brother John French, without whom this book would never have been finished. His whip-cracking and continual insight were as invaluable as they always are on every book. I only hope I’m at least half as useful to you, dude.

>Thanks as well to Alan Merrett, for the various lore chats and his usual patience with questions that began with ‘But what about…’

>Thank you to Laurie Goulding and Nick Kyme, who mixed encouragement and patience in an editorial blender and somehow managed never to nag.

>Thanks, obviously, to Tony Cottrell, Alan Bligh and the whole Forge World team for the badass sourcebooks – and for making a mini of Sevatar. That’s one for the bucket list.

The GW IP manager and high level GW manager Alan Merret okayed and liked it.

The chief editors Laurie Goulding and Nick Kyme gave it a thumbs up. Laurie didn't stop talking about how great it was for like a month.

So the high management at GW are on board with it. This makes you the fanfic.

>>54573642
Whatever you say ADB, now fuck off with your shilling your fanfic

>>54573543
I listened to the Last Church and all I could hear was massive amounts of fedora tipping.

>>54573669
See>>54573658

how would someone go replicating this in a 40k army?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw9KcqQSRRI

>>54573621
Liber Chaotica
Draigo Advent story
WD article about the twin releases of Daemons of Chaos army book and codex which says that daemons are the same beings in both WHFB and 40K
End Times Glottkin
The announcement in AoS that the daemons of Chaos have disappeared from the Mortal Realms to fight in another universe (40K Rift War).

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>>54572840

>>54573599
No. It's not the same. The 40k Realm of Chaos doesn't have Skavenholes leading to reality for example. 40k Slaanesh isn't and hasn't even been a prisoner of the elves. Etc. They're obviously connected in the sense that GW uses the same material across both, but the exist almost entirely independently. The hints of direct connection in the past have been extremely tenuous and mostly fan theory territory.

>>54573628
Scientifically speaking, if a thing is able to influence another thing, it exists.

>>54573673
The Emps being a giant fedora is one of his character traits.

>>54573658
>>54573677
>muh laurie Goldstien and nick "can't right for shit" kyme OK'd it so that makes it totally legit you guys!! Please take me seriously
Lmao

>>54573523
I heard Winsor Newton is pretty great. A bit expensive but not too much so. Are they worth it? Stay nice and sharp?

>>54573673

That's pretty much the point. Emps is supposed to come off as a bit of an asshole fedora in that.

>>54573620
Sad that one book utterly destroyed something several decades had been spent building up. Something that had been building from before I was born in the 80's. A book that didn't just shit on the plot line but also made most of the universe from that moment on seem more lol did it really happen or is it more it both happened and didn't happen bl bull shit. Better books have been written as fan fics. Instead we got the paper version of the episode of malcom in the middle of hal in charge of muscle men (emps and custodes)
Yeah fuck MoM, fuck the story, fuck the implications, fuck bl for publishing it, fuck adb and daddy issues.

>>54573691
Holy shit it is Carnac!

>>54573658
Dark Imperium backed up the Emperor being cold, distant and only considering his """sons""" tools. So yeah, it's canon now.

I don't get the hate, the Emperor was always about saving the species as a whole, not loving individuals, if he was just Space Jesus and loved all men equally, he'd not let the Mechanicum run all round the galaxy lobotomising billions to use as slave labour, or slaughter rival human empires with genetic abominations.

>>54573732
>Sad that one book utterly destroyed something several decades had been spent building up
Do explain yourself, corpsefag

>>54573736
>I don't get the hate
Autists don't need reasons to hate things they don't like.

>>54573703
>can't right for shit
>right

Fucking non-english speakers.

>>54573703
Nope, in Liber Chaotica a fantasy scholar saw nealy all major 40K events. He saw the War in Heaven, the Great Crusade, and the Black Crusades.

Also one of the recovered Chaos weapons being reviewed by fantasy scholars in the book was a CSM chainsword that found its way to WHFB.

Due to the time in the Warp being twisted, Slaanesh and Skaven shenanigans could not have happened in the 40K universe or happened at the same time.

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So, what are you guys building/painting/whatever for Konor?
Just basecoated these fatsos. Still a lot of shit to do, obviously.

>>54573176
>>54573201

My Army has plenty of Tools against Infantery, I ordered 10 of the ForgeWorld Ryza Las-Cannons

That seems to be enough to deal with a Landraider Hopefully

but just in case are Predators really that good ? what about Forgefiends?

>>54573716
Just got em, would hope so.

Gonna get some brush soap before using them.

>>54573748
Well the story was all about this one brave man on a quest to save the galaxy. Now he's just another asshole.
>>54573766
Holy shit, it's Carnac. He actualy exist!

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>>54573716
I have some, they're excellent if you take care of them. That said, the single best thing for keeping brushes sharp is this stuff. "The Masters Brush Cleaner and Preserver." Highly recommended.

>>54573704
Ideas exist, yet they aren't physical.

>>54573776
I have a chingchong cast Spartan Assault Tank for Vehicles week and LoW week. Also considering some Grey Knights for Psykers week.

Anyone who has the Space Marine codex what are the chapters it mentions being bolstered with primaris? I remember seeing Exorcists and Fire Hawks.

>>54573815
Are they bulletproof though?

>>54573815
Ergo, they exist. I don't see the problem?

>>54573736
I know, right? It just gets better and better.

>The birth of the daemon of the first murder have put mankind towards the path of extinction. I must steer them off of it!

Then he creates an empire whose foundations and mortar are the bones and the blood of trillions of humans and aliens. No human caused more death than the Emperor.

>>54573776
Necrons. Finally decided on a scheme, except can't decide whether to paint over the green rods. I think I'll have to as they don't fit, but as it's a one-way thing I've been stalling.

>>54573716
They hold their point naturally. The bristles are stiff enough to apply paint smoothly and evenly but soft enough that they don't prevent you from adding fine details. They don't fray easily. The bristles won't become discoloured and brittle for a long time.

>>54573784
Not an argument.

>>54573778
Predators are good because they're pretty durable and about the most efficient way to field vehicle mounted lascannons. Havocs will get you cheaper lascannons, but they tend to be a lot more vulnerable. Still, not a bad option if you can find a place to park them in cover.

>>54573815
An idea is an electrical and chemical code that fires in your brain, therefore it is physical in some way.

>>54573736
Because the hatred isn't about the cold distant emps. It's aboutth whole "hurr durr chaos has already win, nothing matters" bullshit

>>54573710
>>54573718
Sure, it's just that for a person who has lived for tens of thousands of years, he has a very narrow world view and the priest really doesn't have anything to say, other than to play into the Emperor's hand with his poor arguments.

It's a nice concept and I did enjoy everything else about it, but the author could have laid off on jerking himself a bit and make a more interesting debate.

>>54573840
I have seen good paint jobs on the tubes, so good luck.
There are plenty of places that make custom colors, such as blue and red/orange.
Or, you can not field Warriors and go Tesla Immortals.

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>>54573840
I have 10-squads and 20-blobs in each their own Schemes just to test what I ultimatly prefer from my crons.

I had a rust period; then a gold-cron period.
I have red, blue and green gauss flayers each to their squad.
>It looks janky at first but it really simplifies bookkeeping once the game start and the squads starts huddling close to each other.

>>54573866
How do you think 9e: Age of the Emperor edition, culling of manlets sub-edition is supposed to happen?

>>54572754
He got nerfed. He's alright if you got a deathball of crusaders to guard him.

>>54573784
>Well the story was all about this one brave man on a quest to save the galaxy. Now he's just another asshole.
You didn't explain anything at all. See I never remember the old fluff going into great detail about what a really nice guy the Emperor was. It talked a lot of shit about his great deeds and his vision for mankind, but it never talked about what he was like as a person.

Besides, for him to create a potentiality whereby fully half of his sons would destroy most of the known galaxy in the worst rebellion in history, you have to at least consider the fact that he may have beena huge cock. ESPECIALLY since the whole grimdark makes great pains to tell you that "there are no good guys".

QED you are a corpsefag.

>>54573834
Drach'nyen is just a facet of humanity, it's linked the species and has been since the start, it's not an existential threat to anything except the stability of human empires.

The threat that motivated the Emperor was the psychic evolution of the human race and their increasing contact with the Chaos gods, he saw them essentially becoming Eldar+ and having a psychically triggered extinction event even greater.

Both the Emperor and the Cabal saw the same thing, they've just got different solutions.

>>54573784
>Well the story was all about this one brave man on a quest to save the galaxy.
What? No, the story is about Orks doing orky things, and sometimes humans, who are idiots, get involved. When was 40K ever about how great the Emperor was? He's rotting in a chair eating thousands of people a day just to hang on while his Imperium is run by retarded nazi catholics. It's only "brave" if you can ignore how hilarious it all is.

>>54573778
I find predators really good with autocannons + two hbolters for infantry, its great with 4 lasscannons too.
Forgefiends fucking suck however, worst BS out of all CSM units and it's supposed to be a good heavy support. Mauler is fine though.
I hope they buff fiend in codex.

>>54573831
See >>54573528
>"exist physically, you dumb cunt"

Emphasis was on "physically, you dumb cunt".

>>54573860
It's stored in a physical medium, but you can't take any bunch of electrons and chemicals and have them contain the same idea. Just like any sheet of paper with some ink on it does not contain the same words and not all air vibrations sound the same.

>>54573748
First of all not a corpse fag, I dance a different path fucko.
Second I'm on about the staple bits of the timeline. The fall of the eldar, the war in heaven, the first nid war, armageddon. Shit that's had decades building up. In this it was how the emperor was cast down by his most loved and favoured son.

MoM, nah fuck that he's a chisel, the emps just calls him a number most of the time.

Can you imagine the meetings
Shut up 1 about 18 I'm waiting for 10 to give a joint report with 20.
Like the shit?
The more of the heresy series is written the more the universe starts to come undone.

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>>54573875
>>54573710
>>54573718
MoM is out. Stop being fools. The Emperor, besides the fact that all religion are inherently stupid and should be replaced with logic and reason, religion has been one of the key factors to the rise of the power of Chaos. (picture related).

I mean for fuck sake, the Xitan Crusades are responsible for spawning many powerful Khornate daemons like the Ragged Knight.

>>54572660
>missing the most new Duncan
>breaking the unbreakable chain of last threads
OP IS A FAGGOT EDITION
>>54573883
So missing a forward slash causes that much autism

>>54573951
>Xitan Crusades
>Xtian
Get a load of this fedora

>>54573912
>the whole grimdark makes great pains to tell you that "there are no good guys".
Isn't that precisly what made The Emperor great? Being the only good guy in a shitty existence? He could not even kill Horus with out feeling Pain.

>>54573780
>>54573792
Yep.

Not sure where to get it from aside from somewhere like Amazon.

>>54573963
Last thread was an abomination.

Also Duncan's were cluttering the OP too much.

>carnac sperging out about drachnyen and religion AGAIN
Good fucking god

>>54573923
>It's stored in a physical medium, but you can't take any bunch of electrons and chemicals and have them contain the same idea. Just like any sheet of paper with some ink on it does not contain the same words and not all air vibrations sound the same
You absolutely can make everything perfectly identical if you have the right tools and technology.

The more you reduce something to its base elements, the more the differences between physical bodies disappears.

>>54573951
>Xitan
Fuck off.

>>54573913
>it's not an existential threat to anything except the stability of human empires.

No, it's purpose is the destruction of humanity. Its birth was what awakened Chaos to the existence of mankind.

>>54573951
>mentioning the crusades when it's explicitly said to be the thirty years war and so the power of Nothern German and French autism birthed a chaos god

>>54573973
Hems just venting his rage about chaos getting BTFO in the global campaign

>>54573972
>abomination
How so

>>54573951
Can you highlight less next time? It's still too long to read.

>>54573981
The Ragged Knight was from when the Cathars got BTFO, it's also new (2014) HH fluff and hence shit.

>>54573230

>No lords on mounts
>no lord on bike
>no lord in power armour
>Warpsmiths and Dark apostles loose their combi weapon options
>Chosen taken out or get gutted since they don't have a kit and the CSM kit doesn't have nearly enough options for them
>CSM can only take a heavy bolter as their heavy weapon, and sergeants can't take combi weapons anymore
>And they can only take a sword or a powerfist as their melee weapon, since only those and chain swords come on sprues
>Cultists loose special weapons and the option to take a sergeant, since they only have the press fit kit with melee/rifle dudes

I think the better question is, what is going to be left in the codex. Unless chaos gets a seriously kick ass Marine/havok kit I think you should just stick with the Index.

>>54573951

cool story bro. you just keep on regurgitating shit you dont even understand, whatever makes you happy

>>54573981
Nope, stop headcanoning. Don't make me copypasta the text that shows that Xitan savagery spawned a daemonic being of Khorne speculated to be on a equal footing with a primarch.

>>54574021
>Xitan
How does your fedora even fit on that fetal alcohol syndrome skull of yours?

>>54574015
I think we will get a new standalone chosen kit... the same one from dark vengeance...
>>54574021
What is this Xitan you keep speaking of?

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>>54574000
>no 40kg in subject line
>shitty thumbnail image

>>54574021
Fuck off carnac, and take your fedora with you

>>54573951
Yes his entire argument in the Last Church was basically "religion is evil and is the source of all the conflict" fedora tipping, not "in order to deny its use as a tool to enslave mankind, I must destroy it." If religion is inherently bad, why is faith in the Emperor such a powerful tool in 40k? Why don't you find living saints in the ranks of the Administratum or the Admech?

Maybe next time the Emperor starts building an empire of logic and reason, he might also include honesty and openness into it, because lying to your generals and making decisions without any reasoning are good ways of turning people against you.

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>>54573776
Almost finished a squad of Ruststalkers for my Admech, just waiting for the bases to set so I can finish them. Their masks and armour was not meant to be quite this shiny, but I quite like the effect in retrospect.

I saw that now I Can get a dreadnought Chaplain. Never brought on FW and I am amazed at how jews they are selling the body and EACH arm separatedly. I already have a dreadnought box laying around, Can I just use some spare parts of a venerable dreadnought on the chaplain body?

>>54574003
Just read the highlighted text.

>>54574019
I am puking up what's in the fluff.

Atrocities done in the name of religion is worse than secular atrocities in 40K since the symbolism and zeal inspired by religion spawns more powerful daemons. Ergo, religion in 40K is a force of EVUL regardless of intent.

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>>54574062
Back views.

>>54573776
Bringing my Feminist SoB
Last thread a bunch of people got super trigger about them.

>>54574021
Congratulations on your goalposts that are now so far outside the purview of the original discussion they are beyond the reach of astropathic communications.

>>54574084
>Ergo, religion in 40K is a force of EVUL regardless of intent
Ok, then were are the chaos daemons spawned by the violence done by the SoB?

>>54573975
Lets say you have two identical phrases. Do they have the same meaning?

>>54574091
It's disrespectful. I would ban you from the store if I could, your models are toxic and damaging to women.

>>54573523
>yet another pleb buys W&N S7 because he doesn't know about Raphael 8404, thus perpetuating the "W&N S7 are the best!" myth

>>54574091

Don't get a swollen head. You netted two guys, maybe three with your joke army. I admit I was one of them

Okay, so with the chaos Codex coming out soon and Thousand Sons who knows how far out are we going to need both books in order to use something like a Heldrake?

I'm worried that an opponent is going to bitch that I'm using something from the Index when the csm codex comes out while I'm waiting for a Thousand Sons codex

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>Reading Master of Mankind
>Ten Thousand Custodes are getting rekt in the Webway after Magnus' "nothing wrong" breaks everything
>Almost entirely close-quarters battle in tight tunnels and labyrinthine city streets
>Mainly dying due to sheer attrition, they're ridiculously outnumbered and their only infantry support is shitty mind-wiped tech-thralls
>Can't bring Imperial Fists in to help, despite thousands of them basically twiddling their thumbs on Terra with nothing to do
>Explained as them being unsure how Astartes react to warp-exposure and concern they'll be corrupted en masse

Gee, you know what would be useful right now? An army of genetic shocktroops, superior even to Astartes in close-combat, bred soley for the brutal one-to-one fighting the daemons focus on and crucially, shielded against pretty much any attempt at psychic manipulation, possession or corruption.

Wouldn't it be great if the Imperium still had something like that available, rather than say, culling them so they won't ruin the heroic mythology of the Unification Wars with their inconvenient existence.

>>54574091
post pictures!

>>54574119
That is why I said a bunch.

It was like 4 guys tops.

>>54573980
Maybe, but Master of Mankind says it's only interested in killing the Imperium, not the Human species at the time of 30k.

>>54574092
What goalposts? I am just throwing what's in the modern fluff. And i disagreed with your headcanon. It's just said in the old fluff that Khorne awakened during the period of the crusades iirc.

And you know what the Ragged Knight looks like? He looks like a fucking Xitan Crusader. I cannot think of a single Terran religion that has an honour of having MULTIPLE Greater Daemons take up its banners and symbols.

>>54574125
They were bred solely for fighting other men, not demons.

>>54574112
would you ban me from your store if I brought my OG Diaznettes and an alternative KoS?

Talking about that has anyone played Slaanesh Daemons in 8th yet? Are Keepers even good?

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>>54574061
>Why don't you find living saints in the ranks of the Administratum or the Admech?

Not involved in the autistic on both sides argument, but Priests of Mars has what's basically an Admech Living Saint. He's a random conscripted bondslave dude who has inherent Neo powers going on with the noosphere, he makes the servitors on the ship rebel and tries to negotiate better conditions for the bondslaves.
Also, the Admech's religion explicitly protects them against Chaos and does actually support the Quest for Knowledge, so that seems like a positive force overall. Admech code-psalms CAN defeat Chaotic corruption, so faith in the Omnissiah seems to have the same benefits that faith in Emps has.

>>54574049
IT WAS THE FUCKING NAME, HOW MUCH AUTISM DO YOU HAVE, ARE YOU LOWER FUNCTIONING
>>54574062
Loving the updates anon

>>54574103
>interpreted meanings are the same as physical existence
The fuck?

>>54574165
You can't search the catalog with name you ultra nigger.

Does anyone have the video of sad music and 8th edition memes like "other people understand psycic phase now" ?

>>54574152
>He looks like a fucking Xitan Crusader
so did many many many knights during that period
Where's the proof the crusades caused his creation? As in direct, undeniable evidence that says "the ragged knight was spawned by the violence of the Cristian Crusades?"

>>54574073
>Jews
Back to /pol you working class scum
Arms are sold separately because they're single cast and so you only buy what you need
And of course you can use any other dread arms (except maybe chaos) you git

>>54574159
I have some diazonettes. Never played them in 8th. I'd feel bad about summoning them in all my power point games

>>54573776
>Superglue

Pleb.

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>>54574084
Yeah we'd never want daemons would we fellow sons of Sanguinus

>>54574185
https://youtu.be/1va1vbGqwyg

>>54574169
Aren't we talking about ideas anymore?

>>54574190
I love how "working class scum" is a form of bait now lol

>>54574147
"But the Emperor was gone. Monarch and daemon ran at one another, sliding in and out of existence, outpacing their lessers on both sides of the battle. And the two entities, one the salvation of a species and the other its damnation, met blade to blade"

Don't lie to me, anon. Lying is bad.

>>54574102
They are there. All acts of slaughter and bloodshed spawn the daemons of the Warp. Religious violence more so than others.

>>54574121
You use the index for them

>>54574214
>They are there. All acts of slaughter and bloodshed spawn the daemons of the Warp. Religious violence more so than others.
Proofs? What are the names of the daemons that acts of the SoB have caused?

>>54573704
>[Citation Needed]

>>54574206
>no joke about necrons
My grandkids don't come and see me any more.

>>54574206
You're my hero.

>>54574214
Why does religious violence spawn more? Violence is violence.

>>54574161
To be fair, Living Saints are basically powered by the Emperor (at least that's what Thorians believe), so the Admech dude wasn't technically a Living Saint, even if exhibiting similar properties.

But it's good that you mentioned the Admech faith protecting them as well.

>>54574214

do you have any evidence to support this statement?

>>54574186
Tengrism has Doombreed.

>>54574186
Dude, there is an entire chapter about the Ragged Knight in ToH. Do you know what he is made off? He is made off from the woe of the Cathars, the outraged of the innocent Xitans (non-Cathars) dying at hands of those who swore to protect them, and the bloodlust and hypocrisy of the Xitan knights who butchered them all.

>>54574237
Because he gets all his knowledge from /r/atheism and IFuckingLoveScience

>>54574225
You can't. The index and codex are mutually exclusive and cannot be used at the same time. In matched play, you HAVE to use the latest print (i.e. the Codex).

>>54574206
I'd never seen this before, kekd cider out my nose.

>>54574227
I don't have to name any. The process of these daemons creations are highlighted in ToH. Gonna post the text!

>>54574257
How about you stop being such a massive faggot and read what the community site says about the subject.

>>54574125
>implying their pure RAGE wouldn't make them daemons of khorne hybrids
>>54574152
>Catholicism tells us the devil is bad
>bloodthristers look just like the devil
>Khorne is an evil god
Checkmate athesis

>>54574250
>He is made off from the woe of the Cathars, the outraged of the innocent Xitans (non-Cathars) dying at hands of those who swore to protect them, and the bloodlust and hypocrisy of the Xitan knights who butchered them all.
Incorrect, he s made from the woe of the Kathurs, not the cathars. Where is the proof that is the cathars, and not a very similar group that existed in the 13,000 years or so between now and the end of the age of old earth?

>>54574214
>All acts of slaughter and bloodshed spawn the daemons of the Warp. Religious violence more so than others.

Well, you shouldn't have any trouble providing some sources for these two, please.

>>54573354
Current ones are in MK7.

>>54574273
Oh, so you have no proof they exist, but you claim they do anyways?
In other words, you're talking out of your ass?

>>54574279
Wow. I had no idea you had a Masters in Gender Studies.
Got a link to go with that salt? Or is this where you tell me to "fucking do it myself"?

>>54574312
fucking do it yourself
there's hope for you yet

Are baneblade variants worth it in 2000 point games?

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>>54574061
Lord Solar Macharius was reconned into a living saint.

look at all this shit, why do i even bother sticking my head in here?

>>54574181
>not using Ctrl+F by default
Mouth breathers

>>54573544
The Last Church has Emps going full Nietzche on a guy, and basically extolling the creed of every obnoxious internet atheist.

I don't really identify with either Big E or Uriah's side, but I thought it was pretty well-written regardless.

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>>54574138
Basic colours for games, that's about it.
Still need a lot of work.

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>This story takes place in the impious ages of Old Earth, in a land known as Gawl, also called the Franckish Empire. A princely holy man of the Steel Era that followed the Bronze and Iron Epochs believed himself able to hear the words of his faceless deity. To reflect his self-proclaimed purity, he takes the name Innocent, and then he takes his followers to war.

>Lord Innocent calls a crusade to eradicate a heretical sect, which our fragmented histories refer to as the Karthur. He demands they be burned for their sins against the imaginary god. But these holy warriors – these knights – clad in primitive armour and wielding swords of steel, are the princes and lords of their realm. To them, the virtues of nobility and honour matter above all. The people of their empire look to them for justice, and theirs are the blades that defend the virtuous weak from the evil strong.

>Until their overlord, Innocent, blesses them. He declares their actions to be sacred deeds done in the name of the god they believe to be real. Any crimes they commit in this war will be ignored. Any sins shall be forgiven.

>Siegecraft in this bygone age is fought with catapults of metal and wood that hurl boulders of stone. City walls are brought down by these primitive machines, crewed by peasants and mathematicians alike, and once the walls fall the foot soldiers march in, led by their lords and princes.

>Albajensia, the fortress of the Karthur heretics, falls at dawn. The sword-bearing knights lead their holy warriors into the city, and with all their sins forgiven even before they are committed, the crusaders show no mercy. The heretics numbered no more than a few hundred, yet the whole city burns. Men, women, children...all butchered on the knights’ blessed blades.

>But what of the blameless masses? What of the children who know nothing of their parents’ heresy? What of the thousands of loyal, devout souls who have broken no laws, and do not deserve death?

>>54574091
The fuck are feminist SoB? Men in power armor?

>>54574324
>MUDA-MUDA-MUDA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thanks, bruv. I knew I could count on you.

>>54574213
It's not bait it's my opinion, if you can't afford something then you get a better fucking Job

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>tfw you carry the manlets to victory

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>>54574342
Nop, just a joke army.

>>54574125
Master of Mankind says Thunder Warriors were shit and couldn't fight the wars the marines were fighting. If marines weren't useful then the Thunder Warriors would be detrimental.

>>54574326
Only if your opponent brings Knight-Tier units themselves. The wounds not jumping over thing and old 10" Templates being much worse in 8thed is a huge deal when it comes to super-heavy

>>54574238
Abraham Locke didn't rez himself when killed, either, it seems to be a different powerset although innately pretty damn powerful given he goes head-to-head with what's basically seven Magi at once at the end of the book, although assisting an Archmagos and Magos of his own. Still, around three times as strong as a regular Magos is around Living Saint power, especially untrained. He also shoots what should by all rights be an unloaded and broken plasma pistol, although it explodes in the process.

"Machine-touched", they called him, and apparently it was a rare phenomenon but not unheard of.

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>>54574341
>‘Kill them all,’ says Innocent, the primitive Warmaster of his age. ‘Kill them all. Our God will know who is loyal.’ He condemns thousands to death, not because they are guilty, but because he believes a mythological paradise awaits those unjustly murdered by his men.

>And thus, the city burns. An innocent population is wiped from the face of the world by the blades that should have defended them.

>Like every emotion and deed, this slaughter is reflected in the Sea of Souls. The hate, the fear, the rage and bitter sense of betrayal – all of it curdles behind the veil. Few things feed the warp as sweetly as war, and few wars hold the same rancid symbolism as those declared by the strong against the weak they are sworn to protect.

>Such slaughter gives birth to daemons within the empyrean. Countless mewling terrors born from individual moments of suffering and bloodlust. Above them, more powerful entities also swirl into existence: one born from a blaze, deliberately started, that claims a dozen lives at once; another arising from a mother’s abject horror at seeing her children spitted upon the lances of those she’d believed to be her noble and holy protectors. These acts, and thousands more like them, breed the Neverborn in the hell beyond reality’s veil.

>Sometimes, as with this crusade of Albajensia, a daemon is born that rises above its siblings, one that encapsulates all the miserable complexity, cruelty and blood-soaked shame of the genocide. Imagine that creature, born of this sublime betrayal. Imagine a spirit of war given life when a warrior caste turns its blades upon its own people, acting upon the words of a tyrant, in the name of a lie.

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>>54574308
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/10/27/power-armour-through-the-ages/
>The first concept drawing for the low-tech Mk. V suit was a Khorne Berzerker

>>54573303
Immolators seem really expensive for a mobile twin HF. Are they really worth it? What should I cut to find the points?

10-girl squads meant to be buffed by HQ are bigger to make that easier. Everything else is MSU. Could get 4 SB if I give up the plasma on the Seraphim, but that seems like the better investment to me.

>>54574341
>only a few hundred heretics

Fat chance, didn't know cathars worked at Black Library.

>>54574364
>>54574326
Related. If you do want to bring one try a Stormlord.

>>54574359
I... I don't see the joke?
Is it the various hair colors?

Rate my 2k primaris battalion, imperial fists

Gravis captain with the 2+ armor relic
Power sword lt

5 intercessors with stalker bolt rifles and a power sword
10 intercessors with bolt rifles and a power sword
10 intercessors with bolt rifles and a power sword
6 assault bolter inceptors
5 hellblasters with the rapid fire plasma
Primaris apothecary
3 flamer aggressors
Redemptor with macro plasma and onslaught cannon
Repulsor with TL lascannon, las-talon, onslaught, icarus missiles, 2 krakstorms, 4 fragstorms, ironhail heavy stubber

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>>54574370
>Its skin is the bleeding red charcoal of scorched flesh, like the families who burned in their homes. Its armour is a fire-blackened mockery of the mailed knights whose treachery gave it birth. It carries a sword, just as those butchering knights carried swords, though its blade is graven with runic curses heralding the War God’s glory.

>The crimson and orange light that burns behind its eyes is the fire that lit the horizon as the doomed city blazed. When it opens its maw, each of its exhaled breaths is the echo of ten thousand dying screams.

>It calls itself the Ragged Knight.

Xitans. Justify this.

>>54574310
Of course they do. Are the SoB religious butchery and hypocrisy any different than the Xitan's Crusades? No. The Sisters kill those who they are suppose to protect daily and with glee.

Can I play with Reivers as a Blood Angel even though our book isn't out yet?

>>54574339
Look pretty neat, honestly. Of course, I once was going to make pink female Space Marines (Chapter: Pink Pearls) just to piss off my buddies, but you actually went and finished stuff. Well played.

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>>54574400
The "tumblr hair colour", never said it was a good joke or a creative one.

>>54574419
You sir are a fucking hero.

>>54574359
not to be rude, but what is your thought process when you spend so much time and money into a "joke" Army when you know yourself it isnt even funny?

>>54574400
Hmmm, when you put it that way, different hair colors in the future just makes them look like a pretty normal Infinity force.

>>54574404
List looks good.

>Repulsor with TL lascannon, las-talon, onslaught, icarus missiles, 2 krakstorms, 4 fragstorms, ironhail heavy stubber
This shit is gonna piss me off every time I see it.

>>54574413
Yes.

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>>54574359

>Not casting a load of Dialogous heads so you can include the problem glasses on your Order Of The Fucking White Male army

Come on now.

>>54574411
Will you just fuck off already

>>54574211
Something that exists only on the internet still exists. Even if it is just data on a server that is accessed, it is a physical existence because the data exists. Humans are basically computers that have different physical processes that create, store, receive, decode, and/or transmit data between physical media.

If the Chaos gods can influence a human brain, the Chaos Gods must exist in a physical sense or they would not be able to influence the brain. When daemons enter the physical realm they are simply changing their state to one that can more directly interact with the physical realm.

Essentially, the Chaos Gods are data clusters of executable self-replicating viruses that access human brain servers using some form of physical wavelengths in order to change the system functions of the person. Humans are always-online nodes that broadcast their data. Their datastream can create data clusters depending on how much of that type of data is being transmitted. Once the data achieves a certain level of volume it will begin transmitting data back to the source in an attempt to infect more systems.

Warp rifts are like a printer/scanner that converts the medium into a different state.

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>>54574414
I even had some cringe worthy ones to go along.

>>54574428
Had fun making it. The original concept was bulkier armour due to Admech shenanigans. Resulting in Inquisitor think "men at arms"

The idea behind the naked people is "Penitent Psykers" the same concept of Repentias, Flagellants or Penitent Engines but for psykers.

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>>54574373
Berzerkers look like nothing but this.

>>54574341
Well carnac, looks like you just proved that couldn't be the Albigensian Crusade, since the catalyst wasn't "heresies if the cathars" it was the murder of Pierre de Castelnau, and Innocent III never demanded the Cathars burn at first, he sent missionaries up until the murder of de Castelnau. And the major forts of the Cathars were carcasonne and albi, not a place called "Albajensia"

>>54574376
For 28 points they turn the Rhino from irrelevant into a big threat. 12" range flamers are great. That said Repressors are arguably even better if your main concern is ferrying Doms/Rets. Though if you just want a big Sisters squad I don't think they need a Rhino. Save that for if you bring Repentia/DCA/Crusaders/Arco-Flags.

>>54574299
I think that was Kaffirs actually, so the muhammadean conquests

>>54574470
I don't know why but those helmets always make me think davros

>>54574411

One, you shifted goalposts. While it is true the story you told has a religious order in it, the exact line in the text was that defenders turning on their charges causes particularly strong reactions in the warp. It never says religious violence. Second you are making an assumption and generalization about the sisters of battle, which is not necessarily supported by cannon.

I already know you'll just keep keeping on and won't listen to me, probably insult me in some manner truth be told to try and make yourself feel or look superior in your own mind, but you are twisting things quite a bit to try and match your warped viewpoint. Quite frankly I think you need to get your head on straight, cause you seem a bit off kilter.

>>54574411
>Of course they do
Ok, then what are there names and/or deeds? If they do exist, surely you have proof?

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>>54574455
>demand proof
>gets it
>tells me to fuck off

Not until you apologise for your ancestors creating this!

>>54574376
The thing is, Rhinos are only worth to transport Melee units from the Church like A-F, Crusaders or DCA with their respective Priest for buffin

Immolators with HB or the Immolation Flamer really makes that transport useful.

12" Assault 2 S5 AP-1 D1 is actually rather good on its own.

>>54574483
Yeah, the plan is for the Repressors to be mobile bunkers for the Dominions. The Sister squads with flamers get Rhinos to get to forward objectives better, one buffed by Greyfax and the other by the Canoness. The HB squads are on foot.

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This is my local store that I have never gone to
after looking at this, I think I might actually want to go there now.

>all those xenos players fucking with the imperium

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Chaos codex allegedly coming Aug 24.

Any speculation about Chaos Legion Tactics and possible unique units? I'm very hype for Iron Warriors having actual representation in the game.

>Emperor's Children
>Death Guard
>Night Lords
>Word Bearers
>Iron Warriors
>Alpha Legion
>Thousand Sons
>Black Legion

>>54574501
I demanded nothing. I was just more than tired of you shitting up this thread.
Also shit fo brains my ancestors hate fucked slaneesh into the universe so do one.

>>54574257
>>54574279
Both of you are wrong.

You can still use the Index with the Codex for datasheets that are not included in the Codex, or weapon options for datasheets in the Codex that no longer have those options. But you also have to use the most recent points, which will be in the Codex for the foreseeable future for most things.

Basically you need either the Codex, or both books. You CAN run them both together as long as you use the more recent points and the more recent datasheets (but with both sets of wargear options). What you cannot do is play purely using the Index.