/WFG/ Warhammer Fantasy General

>>54542908

Is it time to have add a section for alternative rulesets like we have miniatures? I think most people don't see T9A as the spiritual successor to Fantasy anymore.

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>>54542793
>With that said, Widowmaker might have actually been useful.

It permanently wounded Slaanesh, so yeah, probably would have.

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Are chocolate elves a thing, or are they just vanilla with blond or black hair?

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>>54542923
Not a bad idea, but think of how many alternative rulesets there could be. Easier to let people keep track of them themselves, and applaud when people post stories of their games here no matter the system.

>>54543231
Hard to say - most elves seem to be pale, but sometimes Wood Elves tend towards the tan side. If nothing else you might argue some of the High Elf colonies at the southern tip of the Southlands and Lustria might have some darker-skinned elves, sort of like how Karak Zorn might have dark-skinned dwarves, but that's a big maybe. GW tends to just avoid depictions of other races for reasons.

>>54543231
Wood elves can be swarthier but there's no black elves.

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Reiksguard best knights

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Thanks GW

>>54543231
Warhammer is European fantasy, there are no black people and moslems exist only as enemies.

>>54543594
I hear druchii get their chicks for free.

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>>54543756

>>54543841
Do they get their money for nothing?

>>54543843
Damn, that's good.

>>54543843
Aqshy is a hell of a drug

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What is the best college of magic?

I'm gonna be DMing my first campaign for WHFRP and have been gathering notes.

Any tips?

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>>54544425
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>>54544425
Amethyst.

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Lady of grace and beauty, I set down my lance, symbol of duty, upon your shrine. I spurn those whom I love. I relinquish all, and take upon the tools of my journey. No obstacle will stand before me. No plea for help shall find me wanting. No moon will look upon me twice lest I be judged idle. I give my body, heart and soul to you, oh Lady, and I shall seek wherever thou might be found. This is my questing vow, and I swear before you, mistress of mercy, and beg that you shall strike me down should I falter.

>>54544425
Dark Magic

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>>54544440
Which edition?
I made this cheat sheet for 2nd edition. It's a bit shitty, but it does the job.

Otherwise, when planning adventures I suggest keeping the characters' careers in mind. There should be opportunities for the characters to do their actual jobs occasionally and maybe be the star of the show for a bit when their speciality comes up.
Also make sure you give the players access to the facilities they need to carry on their career progression. Whether that means a mentor that can teach them, invitation to a certain guild or access to tools.
You can kill two birds with one stone by inserting possible mentors into adventures as friendly NPCs.

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>>54544425
Gold, clearly.
Alchemists are cool.

>>54544440
Tell us about your players and what you've got planned for your game.

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So what sort of defenses besides traps and cultists might we expect a Cult of Khaine in the Old Wolrd to have on their lair? Let's assume they have their shit together relatively well, maybe even an actual bona fide magical artifact an elven worshiper lost, or something similar. Don't druchii Khaine worshipers raise spirits and even corpses to fight temporarily on their behalf?

>>54544425
Gray magic seems pretty tight

>>54545178
Isn't the worship of Khaine among humans different than the Druchii version?

>>54543624
Woke

>>54544425
lore of heavens is perfect

>>54545542
Cruder, if we go by WFRP's commentary on it, but it comments that the druchii form of worship is like the human form, but "perfected."

Of course, neither worship anything like other elves.

>>54542908

I sometimes see people post and ask if there's anyone else who does Fantasy reports other than MWG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgj3GYmyu4E

Bit of a cop out but here's some more.

>>54543594
They're the Sultans of Swing.

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>>54544887

> TFW experiment #275 gets loose again and starts terrorising the maids.

>>54543273

I was just thinking of linking T9A, KoW and Fantasy one sheet.

I'm running a seaman and I was wondering if swashbuckler better than strike mighty blow?

>>54546085
>go throught the effort to paitn minis, get good lookign table, get cool cards
>plastic unit trays

>>54544861

2nd Edition, so this cheat sheet helps.

>>54545053

I've got four players with two characters made so far.

One is an Altdorf born Bounty Hunter who wishes he hadn't chosen bounty hunting as a career, and is incredibly suspicious of people from Middenheim

And a Middenheim-born squire from Middenheim with no preference to sex with a peculiar understanding of how to speak with nobles, as well as a knack for mimicry.

Previously, I've had ideas of having a campaign be around either Middenheim or Nordland, where the players primarily deal with Greenskins, Beastmen, Wood Elves, Marienburgers/Wastelanders, Norscans, and the respective residents of whatever territory it may take place it.

I had no plans for a grand final boss initially, as I'd rather come up with a main antagonist as my players are questing, so I can see what they're interested in facing or doing.


What the campaign will really be dealing with will also depend on the next two characters my players get, so I can get a better idea on what to do with them.

>>54543594

I don't blame them, it's money for nothing.

>>54543273
>sort of like how Karak Zorn might have dark-skinned dwarves, but that's a big maybe.

What if the Dwarfs there became Chaos Dwarfs?

>>54546826
Why would they? Karak Zorn is down in the Southlands, pretty far from Chaos corruption.

>>54546826
>>54546875

To be fair, what caused the Sons of Darkness was the isolation and the arrival of Hashut. In theory, there is no reason why Hashut couldn't be going around to all packs of isolated dwarfs, offering the same deal.

>>54546723
Check out Guitar George.

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Does anyone have a list of Beastman tribes, warherds, and brayherds from the lore?

>>54546826
I like the idea that Karak Zorn holds the truth on the origins of the Dwarf Species as an uplifted race and if the dwarfs rediscovered the hold it would cause a religious schism.

>>54547132
It wasn't just the isolation, it was the fact that Chaos was doing some fucked up shit to the world, and the Ancestor gods weren't answering and Hashut did - they went over to him to save themselves, not just because he happened to be there and making an offer.

>>54541917
Their cavalry should be riding on Cold One imo and manticores seems like a good mount for heroes/lords. Dunno about the rest.

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Playing as Dwarves, I just had Mannfred spice up one of his regular peace offerings with an offer to become my vassal.

Should I take it? I'd rather exterminate the fuckers since I have them on the ropes, but I'm curious, and no enemy's asked to be my vassal before.

>>54543528
>a bunch of rich kids
>best

>>54543624
>moslems exist only as enemies in Warhammer
Except aside from the crusades which were caused by a crazy sorcerer invading Estalia with Skaven encouragement, most interaction with Araby seems to be trade.

>>54548410
Was their presence in Warmaster Crusades related?

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>>54544323
>not mainlining Dhar
>mfw light weights try to talk tough

>>54546085
I really struggle with how ugly the guys from MWG are

>>54548517
Most of them looks to me like ordinary geeks. We're not known for being the sexiest of people.

>>54548431
I would assume, since it has Crusades right in the title of the game. I was never into Warmaster, so when they added "Crusades" to it I didn't even notice.

>>54548365
I was playing a Bretonnia game not long ago, where Ostermark asked to be my Vassal. And the Empire wasn't even in that bad shape. I took the offer anyway, cause Knights are expensive, and had already finished conquering Tilea.

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>>54547132
Hashut is the most interesting of the (maybe) chaos gods.

>>54543231
Eataine elves are somewhat darker-skinned than others.

>>54544425
Light college best college. Who else is gonna exorcise your demons and store your evil artifacts?

>>54548798
Why would we want our evil artifacts stored?

>>54546358
No, Strike Mighty Blow is one of the most important Talents there is for any melee fighter. You can pick up Swashbuckler later.

>>54549487
If you don't, they tend to Malus Darkblade you.

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Is the warhammer fantasy roleplaying game good? Doesn't seem as popular as the 40k ones.

Remember picking up a really old rulebook from a charity shop I worked in as a teen.

Later bought a more modern vampire expansion I came across but it was such nauseating vampire wank in every way, the writers must have chafed themselves raw by the end of it.

>>54550294
>Is the warhammer fantasy roleplaying game good?
Yes

why are dark elves so obsessed with incest

>>54550517
It's the best.

Put your hag-mother to the test.

>>54543231
You mean black elves? No.

>>54550517
Because their rulers lead by example.

>>54550294
It's a great d100 system. 1ed is still good, but general concensus is that 2ed is a polished version of first.

The system is fun, but the real joy is the setting.

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>>54550517
It's a quick and easy way to show them as degenerate for the pulp authors doing this stuff.

The real answer is probably down to some sort of belief in keeping bloodlines pure. Elves don't seem to be subject to genetic illnesses.

>>54543231
To my knowledge they aren't a thing. But it strikes me as a very High/Dark Elf thig to dye their skin.

>>54550294
>Later bought a more modern vampire expansion I came across but it was such nauseating vampire wank in every way, the writers must have chafed themselves raw by the end of it.

That would be because they're absurdly powerful. Working as intended.

That said, as a DM that used a powerful vampire as a foe, the lack of Fate points is a huge Achilles heel, especially since it also means no Fortune points.

>>54550619
Dark elves value pale skin. A number of them are practically grey.

>>54550610
An argument could be made that lifespan also plays a role, ala Nicodemus and Deirdre from Dresden Files.

When you live long enough, familial ties just change meaning I guess.

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>>54550654
>Nicodemus

>>54550635
It went further than them just strong undead with high stats, it was dripping with ink-semen regarding how they are the only thing that can stop Chaos and are so much better than anything else.

>>54550786
I men, I have Night's Dark Masters, do no, not really.

>>54550681
http://broheim.net/downloads/dramatispersonae/original/Nicodemus.pdf

>>54550917
>worlds greatest living wizard
>makes him taller than other wizards

On the plus side, we now know Gelt is a shortstack.

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>>54550907
It's a quick and easy way to twist your titties, and it works every time, bitch nigga.

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>>54542908
Those ridculously garish colours.

So I'm currently working on a Norsca army book for 6th Edition, based on the TW:W roster, and I'm onto the Bestiary. I'm a little stuck on the subject of Chaos Marks; at the moment, only combat Lords/Heroes, the elite Marauder unit and Skin Wolves are able to take them.

The rationale is it'd helped make the book distinct from the Hordes of Chaos list, which would represent more northern and corrupted tribes. Do you think all Marauder stuff should be able to have them instead, like in Hordes? What about Shamans/Seers - I wanted to give them their own lore, but should they have the option for Marks and the Chaos Lores too?

>>54550681
I wonder what those sigils are meant to reflect on his cloak.

So are there any good homebred miracles for priests of Khaine? I know about the ones in Tome of Salvation, but with a couple of exceptions those are...underwhelming.

>>54550997
>Big Dick N

>>54543756
she looks... hot
*ba-dum-tss*

>>54544425
Hogwarts

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>>54551133
Hogwarts is shit.

The ridiculous four dorm system is almost deliberately set up to breed Classism and future dark wizard supporters.

Plus the teachers are incapable, all HP wizards are retarded and the setting would be infinitely better off if magic was purged from their Earth.

>>54551166
division into four houses is a norm for British boarding schools as I know

>>54551207
So is homo-eroticism disguised as "traditional hazing".

>>54551228
touche, you naughty sweetie boy

>>54551228
nothing wrong with a prefect enjoying the services of young fags, that's not gay at all

>>54551207

Even non-boarding schools often do it. In Aus they did it with the high school I went to, even though it was non-boarding. Rarely mattered outside of school sports though.

>>54551207
But the way Hogwarts does it is pretty suspect, its shown throughout the series they literally split to cliques into House 1, House 2, House 3 and House EVIL RACISTS.

At their very best members of that house are 'only' cartoonishly unlikable bullies and cowards, no actual heroes amongst them unlike the other ones.

>>54550991
Hordes of chaos already are the option for chaos aligned marauders.

If your really want to undergo the futile attempt to make an homebrew faction, make Norsca a faction not allied with chaos and more on a grey area.
Have them be followers of a cult of ancestors mixed with ulric and taal worship and indirect chaos worship.

They can only take the chaos unaligned mark, their wizards have access to the lore of beasts and lore of chaos. Their priests have some spells similar to those used by priests of ulric (if there are any, maybe you can find something in storm of chaos content)

>>54551341
>Horace Slughorn
>Severus "ALWAYS" Snape
well, not all

>>54551341
In HP lore, Merlin was a Slytherin.
And Merlin is universally considered the greatest wizard that ever lived regardless.

You should read up some more shit rather than stopping at the 7 books. Slytherin is not the "evil house" it's the "ambitious, sometimes rutheless house"

>>54551415
>You only don't like the series because you read all the books of it, read the minor side stuff written after the fact instead
Really?

>>54551427
If it's Rowling herself saying it, you should at least consider that as well

>>54551449
How can you consider her word after she wrote the mainline books? Its hilarious the whole shipping thing in relation to her, didn't she flipflop on who the main characters ended up with after she had already finished the series? Now she doesn't want her insert with the ginger but instead the main character.

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>>54544425
whatever college the Sorcerers go to

>>54551516
Something is off with the face.

It looks a bit to... "plain"? Or maybe "human" is the better term, it doesn't quite look like an Elven face but instead some cosplay chick wearing elf ears and contacts..

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>>54551449
She's pretty damn preachy and changes her mind constantly. Probably should get back to warhammer.

Lizards are they just memes?

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>>54551516
The one where they hang human guts from the walls?

>>54551524
The video games where always the most safe and boring when it comes to the elves. Except for Kerillion.

>>54551531
Why don't the Lizardmen just glass the chaos wastes from orbit with their temple ships?

>>54551524
It's based on official art, so...

>>54551538
>Kruber wants to smash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_mpfuUn68

>>54551635
>>54551635
Shouldn't a hydra spit poison/acid instead of fire?

>>54551635
Heil Hydra!

>>54551649
Warhammer hydra isn't

>>54543756
"Er Yeah? I have used one of these flamey sword thingies before. My Hair? Oh, um, yeah.....it's supposed to be on fire like that, really. AAAAAAAAAGH!"

>>54551400
One of those teachers was a double-spy and the other one bribed kids with magic drugs.

Always. Evil.

>>54551415
Merlin engineered muggle wars. Always evil, all the time.

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>>54551531
I remember when the two races fighting on the cover of Warhammer was Bretonnians versus Lizardmen, and thus they were the models you got with the starter kit for learning the rules.

Think the example used a Saurus warrior and a bowman.

>>54551371
Marauders can't take marks in Hordes. Marauders in Archaon's Horde have MoCU though.

>>54551770
>double-spy
quadruple reverse spy, to be correct


and he was double-spy for a good guy, so he's good.
and the other one duelled Lord Voldemort. if that doesn't outweigh minor transgressions, I don't know what does

and what do muggles matter in a world with wizards? we only matter because there ain't no wizards in ours.

>>54551548
They can't even defend their cities, they are in worst shape of all races, also they are extremely xenophobic and never co operate with anyone.

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>>54551848
>Wizard apologist
>Can't type properly
Nice Try.

>>54551846
Then you have it.

The hardest part would probably be finding some rules for their magic/gods. I figure in a place like Norsca ice magic is probably pretty popular, along with beast magic

>>54551848
Evil people can do good things and stil be evil. Just like good people can do evil things and still be good. Morality is subjective to the viewer. The closest you'll ever get to a concise and logical morality system is the one you make up for yourself - and you'll still find holes in it.

>>54551848
Wizards are stupid anyway. They don't realise the potential of magic. They can litteraly cure cancer, but will never take action to use magic for the betterment of humanity because "Muuuuuh muggles will discover us and hate us !"

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>>54551531
What's the chance the Lizardmen will get a legendary Skink in Total Warhammer?

If they had Legendary Heroes this guy would be the perfect choice.

>>54551524
because you think that extremely stylized art is photorealistic when it comes to the elves.

>tfw it took me this long to realize that Amazons are only there to joke that Lizardmen have "skanks"

>>54551635
ELF WAIFU
NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>54551548

What exactly would glassing the Chaos Wastes accomplish, realistically?

>>54552000
Seems decently high. You can't just have autistic pepes.

>>54552072
>daemon climbs out a portal
>slips on glass
>breaks a leg
>can't go kill mortals

>>54552072
Prettier landscapes.

>>54551415
>Slytherin is not the "evil house" it's the "ambitious, sometimes rutheless house"
yeahno

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You know, if you guys wanna discuss the plot of Harry Potter, there's always >>>/mlp/ or >>>/trash/ or even tumblr!

>>54552150
You're an idiot.

>>54552117
well you get the impression otherwise because mostly the 3 biggest assholes were shown from that house in the whole hp series.

>>54552000
Just imagine being a Daemon Prince, you just ascended, you tear appart your ennemies with your new found power before resting among your follower. Then you hear a noise, feel a precense, but before you can do anything you feel a dart plunge itself in your neck, followed by horrible and burning sensation as your body is destroyed and you go back to the warp, and your last sight is a Skink who dosn't rise up to your knee laughing his ass off.

>>54552247
was Umbridge Slitherin by the way?

>>54551862
>Worst shape of all races
>Chaos fags believe this

>>54552262
Don't fuck with the Solid Skink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnKeN9zIkoE

>>54552267
No idea, but she was being influenced by a horcrux.

>>54552284
Which race IS in the worst shape? I always got the impression it was the dorfs.

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>>54552284
Lizardmen sit in crumbling ruins and go to war only when someone stole their plate, High Elves and Empire take Chaos threat on their own while joke toads think centuries to ask what happened.

>>54552336
Honestly ? CHAOS Dwarf. They where not that numerous to begin with, and they suffered many drawback in their history, they gloat about being powerfull and shit but really the different slave revolt (especially the Black Orcs one) shenaningan with the Ogres Kingdoms and internal conflict let them crippled.

Or Araby, since they take a beating during the crusade and are constantly bullied by the Tomb Kings

>>54552072
A punch bowl worthy of Sigvald?

>>54552359
>when even the Tomb Kangz are a greater proactive force against Chaos

>>54552359
>Kroq-Gar is mentioned leading several expedition to destroy Chaos Invasion in the Chaos Waste
>"Only go to war when someone stole their plate"
Haha no. And if by "Crumbling ruins" you some of the most fortified place in warhammer world, then yes, some Temples City are destroy, but the other are still here, being golden and all.

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>>54550294
I had an idea for a pair of travelers to be encountered in Warhammer, an older wandering Morr priest and his bodyguard taking the form of a big strapping lad in dark robes wielding a war scythe enchanted with abilities to better cut down undread and return them to their proper rest.
Originally was the idea for the bodyguard having an actual scythe like that but it seems a bit too much, what do you think?

My group plays mostly Pathfinder but I'm kinda tempted to give it a go at something else and taking over, at least temporarily, from our regular DM.

Which edition of WFRP is the easiest/best to adjust to coming from D&D/PF, and are there any good, not overly long, adventure modules you can recommend to a novice DM?

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>>54552794
2nd edition is best, but there's nothing like D&D. 3rd is higher power, but it's s terrible system requiring proprietary dice and cards; it's basically just a bad board game rather than an RPG.

As for quick and fun modules, A Brutal Finish from the end of the Realms of Sorcery splat comes recommended.

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Have anyone here tried running a larger unit of forsaken in their WoC-army?
I usually field one or two units of them in the sizes of 5-6 minis but
lately I've been playing with the idea of including a unit of 18-24 forsaken in my army in lieu of the default warrior block.
While I'm on the subject of core I might aswell ask; what interesting core setups have you guys used for your WoC armylists?

>>54552851
Thanks for the recs! I took a look at 3rd edition not too long ago but threw that idea away with all the proprietary bullshit GW wanted you to buy for it.

>>54552708
Gut reaction is that the 'wandering pair' duo is done to death. Change it to a small caravan of Morr priests, initiates and devotees who travel the Empire going from village to village - visiting homesteads that don't have a resident priest. They go around burying the dead, tending to graves and dealing with the undead as they pop up.

Your players could encounter them gypsy style, camped out in a graveyard, re-engraving worn headstones and getting their drink on.

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How are relations between Estalia and Tilea? Would speaking Tilean in Estalia give you a short trip to the graveyard or does it vary depending on which region you are?

>>54553159
What are you talking about? Everyone in WHFB speaks modern English. I am serious.

>>54553159
Hm, I don't remember this scene in LotR. I should rewatch extended edition...

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>>54553232

Aragorn made some changes when he became king.

>>54553252
That's less ridiculous than a ghost army.

>>54552986
For once that actually wasn't GW's fault, but FFG's. Basically they used a successful franchise to beta test what would become their Star Wars rules.

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Could a vampire feed off another vampire?

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>>54553159
Extremely poor! Tileans and Estalian are famously at each others' throats over issues on...everything, from wine tastes to navy quality to art to who Myrmidia was originally from. Speaking the 'wrong' language may be acceptable in major ports and cities, where trade rules over all, though certainly it wouldn't be smart in rougher areas. In rural areas, you might be beaten, run out of the village, or yes, even murdered (Arabyans can expect similar). Even if you're from neither, answering a question in the 'wrong' way is a major faux past and may provoke a brawl.

>>54553331
Yes, and it's a much stronger feed and high. This happens in the Ulrika novels, in fact, and is apparently also ho vampires have sex (back and forth feeding) and muddy their bloodlines (same).

>>54553377

This is good to know, our group is heading to Estalia and no one speaks the language, closest is Tilean but if you have common knowledge Tilea you probably should know Tilea and Estalia don't get along and would probably incite trouble if vice versa were spoken in as said rougher areas.

>>54553407
wait-wait, but vampire do in fact fuck like mortal too, right?

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>>54553417
Definitely makes sense to me. Of course, you may want them to make the check (with adjusted difficulty to taste) to recall this particular fact if none of them are actually Tileans or have known an actual Tilean or Estalian for very long (because if you have, you'll hear about their dislike for the other).

>>54553437
Yes, apparently. They'll fuck and feed simultaneously too. They don't have to to get their high, though, and a bite high is apparently fierce even for the victim (particularly from lahmians).

>>54553489
Would a vampire trying to feed off of a Grail Knight explode?

Since even the holy power that remains in their corpses is enough to injure chaos servants trying to plunder their tombs.

>>54553641
He would probably feel it's a bad idea before putting his teeth in him, and back off. Grail Knight are kinda living holy symbol anyway, and vampire don't like holy symbol.

>>54553687
I just want to see a Grail Knight chokeslam a vampire,
off the ramparts of a castle onto a spike just as the sun is rising is a bonus.

Oh, Oh, what about a blessed servant of Morr named The Undertaker that goes around punching the undead back to sleep?
REST, IN, PEACE

>>54548365
Know that as Vassel he pays you, but Mannfred's AI is as a backstabber in almost every game, so he will try to attack you if he can later. If not he'll hit any allies of yours he can.

>>54552851
Know any module that includes Mordheim?

>>54553794
There are none.
If you want to set the adventure i mordheim, take notes from the board game

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Another vampire question, what's the Dhar Vortex?

>>54553794
There are no official ones, and as far as I know no fan ones unless one of the untranslated Polish ones is. This is probably because 2e's default time frame is centuries after Mordheim has been completely destroyed.

>>54554029
What context was it mentioned in?

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>>54547272
>>54547154
>>54547132
>>54546875
I've been playing around with the idea since last week, mainly as an idea to give the CD more options to interact with the other armies, as well as doing the same for Bretonnia and Araby.

Instead of being 100% based on Babylonian & Persian culture, the Southern Chaos Dwarfs would have more traits from African cultures, like the Songhai, Mali, Ethiopia and the Masai (well, only for the cattle culture for the last one). The tall hats covered by turbans, robes instead of long coats. Their capital could be Karak Zorn, and they'd have an underground empire with a couple of citadels that go all the way to the mountain range in Araby (no idea what the name of that range is, only that it's like the Atlas mountains).

Instead of Lammasu, their bull centaurs would resemble the catoblepas, which were said to live south of Ethiopia. I had searched for any kind of flying bull monster in African mythos, but no luck so far. Maybe the catoplebas would have different special rules, or not. They would still worship Hastut, but with their own regional twist, like how the Southland Lizardmen are different from the main group in Lustria.

Instead of Hobgoblins, they could field locals as slaves, such as Arabyan grave robbers or janissaries, Pygmies or even Skinks and the undead. The last two might be stretching it, and I don't know if minor necromancers could be free from Nagash's influence so close to Kemrhi.

Also found out about an African vampire called the asanbosam, with iron hooks for feet. Could be forest ambush unit.

What happened to the rhinox? Starting an ogre army to tide me over while Warlord ships the stuff for my Araby army and I just can't find the things.

>>54553735
Honestly perfectly plausible. One of the best Warhammer stories that is constantly recommended, Beasts in Velvet, had an expie of Dirty Harry as it's main character.

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>>54554051
Apparently it's present in the body of vampires and allows them to feed even when they don't have access to blood. I've never heard of it either.

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Warhammer used to have small two-player campaigns back in the older editions. Each used different factions amd had a story that fit not into the present, but the past.

My challenge to you is...create some ideas for campaigns for the factions that did not end up with one.

These are Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Beastmen, Warriors Of Chaos, Chaos Dwarfs, Daemons, Kislev, Dark Elves, Wood Elves, Ogre Kingdoms, Dogs Of War, Amazons.

The ones already covered and should be avoided if possible are
>Dwarfs, High Elves (Grudge Of Drong)
>Orcs & Goblins, Empire/Border Princes (Idol Of Gork)
>Vampire Counts, Bretonnia (Circle Of Blood)
>Albion (Tragedy Of McDeath)

Each scenario consists of 3-5 smaller battles over a certain objective, and the conditions of the final battle are affected by which player won the preceding battles.

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>>54554059
Right. Forgot about how the sorcerers could wear large tribal masks to show their status. With inbuilt tusks, of course.

>>54554100
tiddies

>>54553641
>Would a vampire trying to feed off of a Grail Knight explode?

Grail Knights throb with divine energy, so it's likely that the vampire wouldn't try. If they had the weakness to holy things that very many vampires do, it would probably be as if he drank burning cesium.

Vampires HAVE been noted to feed on Chaos champions, though, and they count as 'holy' too. It doesn't seem to be common or safe, though; when Ulrika feed on a Chaos shitter, it nauseated her and caused auditory hallucinations.

>>54554059
Karak Zorn as alway be hyped as "Mythical Lost hold who remember the treasure of the golden age that have been lost by other Hold" tough, they would have resisted the corruption. The Dawi-Zar only bowed to Hashut because they where dying, starving, being corrupted by chaos energy despite their resistance and hopeless.

>>54554145
Dhar and Chaos are pretty close to each other, since Dhar is intentionally taking all the winds of magic and making their pattern more chaotic which is the opposite of 'high' magic.

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>>54554145
>chaos is drugs

>>54554145
Genevieve was filled with the power of Sigmar.
Could she count as a Vampire AND holy?

>>54554161
>>54554059
The idea of a African cultured Chaos Dwarf is pretty cool tough, like the idea of Amerindian tribes in the New World.

>>54554100
Ah. It's theorized (in setting) that vampire souls are destroyed when they're made and replaced with an 'engine' of dark magic. Necharchs have tried to harness this and outside black magic to feed and mostly succeeded, but it hideously twists their bodies.

Note that if you trap and starve a vampire, it doesn't die, only goes mad and gradually twists into a completely bestiary monster. So it would seem all vampires can do this, but as far as I know only the Necharchs do so deliberately and understand the process much.

>>54554161
With Orcs, Lizardmen and the Kemrhi nearby, wouldn't it also be a good place for fostering those conditions?

>>54554212
Genevieve is best girl.

>>54554232
Ah, so it's not something that they'd really want to do deliberately? Unless you're one of these Necharchs.

>>54554212
Genevieve was written before the modern vampire rules were even written. But she never seemed vulnerable to holy things. Some vampires never are.

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Kickstarter for minis.

VC, Lizardmen, Skaven, DE, some misc.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hiddendreams/hidden-dreams-miniatures

Also Reaper Bones 4 and Raging Heroes Cathedral start Aug 1.

>>54554264
I've never heard of a vampire doing so, no. Most who try to not feed at all end up having frantic blood orgies before long, and some are driven irrevocably insane in the doing. Some material notes that Kattarina the Bloody, a Kislevite vampire who openly ruled as tsarina foe quite some time, was driven mad by attempting to cease feeding.

>>54552851
Novice DM-anon here. Just flipping through the Realms of Sorcery book and Brutal Finish scenario, being pretty magic focused and all, is it a good entry point for new players getting introduced to WHRP? I'm basically the only one with previous Warhammer lore & tabletop experience and while two are pretty seasoned D&D-types, the other two are fairly new to p&p (basically only played 1½ Pathfinder campaigns). I guess you could make the new players support characters following one or two wizards though...

>>54554233
Lizardmen wouldn't bother them too much tough, as long as they don't try to expand. Orcs from this part of the world are mostly savage, and anyway, if the legends on Karak Zorn is true, they have knowledge (especially runic) from the golden age, they can probably protect themselve, but are too secluded to try and reach their northen kin.

>>54546085
Guerilla War Games does famtasy as well

>>54554431
Anyone else?

>>54547132
Do we have any insight on Chaos Dwarf culture?

>>54554396
You don't technically have to be a wizard to do it, but I like it because it has a mix of politics and action, introduces magic a bit, and also plays with Imperial culture. The adventure in the Core book is also serviceable, albeit generic.

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Is there a table to roll for a character's birthday?

I've found a calendar, but no clear table for results.

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>>54544425

L O R E O F M E T A L

>>54554570
What about if you combine the Lore of Metal with the Lore of Death?

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>>54554431
>Owen rebased for KoW

>>54547147
There aren't any in the army books iirc

>>54554693
You get AoS.
Don't cross the streams.

>>54554542
I think you can choose it yourself.

>>54554720
You sure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W35dyPTh6o

>>54554754
>old setting died
>metal gits come out
I'm sure.

>>54554829
Pretty sure if Dethklok had appeared in Warhammer they would have overthrown worship of the Chaos Gods, thus no End Times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0P-TTnYqws

>>54550517
It's a product of having parents and aunts and uncles around, and still being youthful and hot, in a society that is low-level influenced by Slaanesh worship. And family is slightly less likely to backstab you than another bloodline looking for an edge, so getting it on with your mom might be the only safe way to get off.

>>54552359
The Temple cities kept intact or left to the elements as the Slaanesh order it ( unless some fucking rat comes in). If they are crumbling, it's intentional. Humans don't get why that's the case for some cities. While others kept in top condition.

>>54555028
Fuck, meant slaan.

>>54551635
>that elf
>going in alone

Ahaha dumb fuck

>>54555043
What? You not into sexy hermaphrodite frogs with six tits and claws givinh you all the best drugs and fucking rock music?

>>54551341
You gotta remember that, even if the series has a narrator, the view of Syltherin is heavily influenced by Harry - he sees Malfoy and Snape and assumes it's a house he'd hate, when really he should have been in it and at the end of the series realizes it didn't really matter.

It's kind of like people getting creeped out by the Shyish order since they think they're dabbling in necromancy.

>>54555028
>Slann mage was abducted by Dark Elves and sacrificed to Khaine
>all according to great plan

>>54551835
How the heck did Lizards and Brets end up fighting?

>>54555115

Basically everyone in Slytherin collaborated with Voldemort and his guys when they came in.

And not in the "Do the very least you can to not get picked out for torture" way the other houses did.

They didn't help when the rebellion started either, they just stayed in their dungeon.

>>54554189
Dhar is just raw magic. It hasn't been split into the different winds.

Iirc, it was the only way Nagash could learn proper spell casting because winds didn't flow over khemri untill he built the black pyramid

>>54553159
I know they hate being mistaken for each other.

>>54554229
They don't have to be Chaos Dwarves though, you can still slap African themes on normal dwarves. Something just strikes me as off about declaring Karak Zorn to have fallen to Chaos 'just cuz,' and more or less the exact way their Babylonian brethren did. It's like deciding Sudenburg fell to the Undead, or Arnheim defected to the Dark Elves.

>>54555159
Probably over who's the more retarded faction.

>>54554264
It's most useful when dead - a vampire in a Black Coach can suck up enough Dhar after death to revive themselves.

>>54555330
There's nothing wrong the those factions, don't be a faggot.

>>54555120
>Litteraly managed to do this out of pure plot armor because Edgy "Choosen" boy Malekith needed a Slaan to return from the Chaos Realm
>Still needed to poison the Slaan when he was meditating for Morathi to even manage to pull it out

Yeah, that's sure a impressive feat...

>>54555159
Lizards are autistic retards and invaded because a single tree grew in the wrong place.

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>>54555362
It was an opening and I had to take a shot at the lizards.

>>54555186
>Dhar is just raw magic. It hasn't been split into the different winds.

You're backwards, dhar is either several winds that have been violently forced together, or several winds that have 'coagulated' into 'natural' dhar.

Qhaysh is pre-split magic.

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Blood Bowl teams should be skirmish units you can add to your army in Warhammer, summoned from their alternate universe by magic.

Can you use them in AoS? Isn't that 'game' just slapping random models on the table and having them kill each other?

>>54555371
Malekith had to fight daemons endless, inculding N'kari, while he was in there. You don't understand how shiney Elf souls appear in the Realm of Chaos.

>>54555431
Qhaysh is intricately weaving the winds together, it's not raw. Dhar is the closest you get to raw magic without any filters or added ingredients.

>>54555326
Well, my original idea was to find another land that the Chaos Dwarfs could also inhabit, mainly because I've always felt that they were too isolated.

>>54555572
Dark elves are isolated too, i don't thinl isolation is the problem here

Chaos dwarfs are simply irrilevant

>>54555184
As I recall Rowling said one of her biggest regrets was not having Malfoy have a redemption like Dudley did. He was supposed to help in the final battle and give another defender his wand.

Also worth noting that Ilvermony is literally founded by the actual heir of Slytherin, and the tree out front grew from his wand. Also their Gryffindor has a talking snake as its mascot.

>>54555440
1) Agreed.
2) No, but you can in Silver Tower since it has rules on statting anything. You could stat and throw in Batman and a TIE Fighter if you wanted.
3) Originally yes, after the Compendium no but it is still pretty basic bitch tier.

>>54555440
>using anything in AoS

>>54555460
Malekith is almost Draigo tier except he is justifiable by being son of greatest warrior in setting.

>>54555647
Only because their "Eastern Slaver State" niche got stolen by Ogres.

They were always nearer the action in the old world than Lizardmen ever were.

>>54555768
>Male-"mommy fucked me into power and I fuck her"-kith
>deserving anything but his sick burn

>>54555859
I don't know anyone other than Malekith and Grimnir who survived in Warp battling daemons.

>>54555904
>Gotrek and Felix

>>54555904
If a bunch of orks can then it's not that impressive.

>>54553186
In Total warhammer beastmen and lizardmen have their own language.

It triggers me that both in TWWH and Vermintide humans from the empire have british accents though. Is it that hard to get someone with a german one?

>>54555962
They are made by bongs, German would sound too alien for poster boy faction.

>>54555904
see
>>54552000

>>54555962
I'd say it's worth it for the Karl Franz and Victor Saltzypre voices alone though

>>54555904
Oxyotl. Morathi.

>>54556001
This guy used stealth to survive. He wasn't swarmed 24/7 by daemons.

>>54555956
Tuska didn't invade the world, He invaded the Eye of Terror and then was wiped out on a Khornate daemon world.

>>54556041
Morathi was never been in the Warp except when she was dragged there by Slaanesh in the finale of End Times Khaine.

>>54556048
He didn't just "survive" tough, he was running around killing important daemons.

>>54551569
I would also smash.
A rage fuelled, 'She criticises your technique mid coitus' angry smash.

>>54556048
Wiped out after razing several daemon worlds to the ground.
He's currently in Khorne's brass citadel butchering his servants, but I don't think he actually worships him.

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>>54556001
>>54556041
>Ribbit-ribbits believe battling equals sneaking.

>>54556079
You're giving me too many lewd ideas.

>>54556096
>Implying Oxy couldn't kill all your favorite leaders if he wasn't busy assassinating the infinite armies of chaos 24/7

>>54556073
What important daemons? He covered himself in daemon blood and sneaked around, killing any daemon that sees through his stealth.

>>54556091
You can't raze a daemon world in the Eye of Terror unless you smash it to pieces. The daemon prince in charge will just reform it again.

And Tuska's Waaagh! dies to an Ork each day only for Khorne to give them life again. The Orks are syuck perpetually in a battle they can never win but I guess being Orks they don't care.

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>>54556110
Ooh, let's hear em.

>>54556113
Dude, Shadowblade and the Skaven assassin character are the best in the business. The skink doesn't rank with them.

>>54556168
>the skaven assassin character
Oh yeah, so great you can't even remember who they are.

>>54556211
I remember his feats.

>>54556096
Stop trying to force your own meme Milhouse.

>>54551635
>women tries to do what a bunch og white lions couldn't
Good job wasting your long life.

>>54555663
As I recall she said the Malfoy was intentionally an irredeemable little shit and all the people calling for a redemption arc should rethink their lives.

But then Slytherin was House Slave-Morality anyway, because anyone with drive or ambition is evil and should be ashamed for prospering.

>>54556153
>What important daemons ?

Any major demon or daemon prince he could find really, until he somehow finded the way to travel betwen the material realm and the Chaos realm.

>>54556252
I don't remember his lore saying that he killed any greater daemons while being there.

>>54555572
No offense, while I sympathize with what you're going for, putting them in a lost old far south of most of the Warhammer world isn't really helping much.

But hey, doesn't mean that you can't fluff some Chaos Dwarves forming colonies on the east coast of the Southlands, so they can trade and raid for slaves. Or you can spread them more up into the northern mountains so they can at least interact with Kislev and Norsca.

>>54556252
That little twat saw End Times before it happened and still didn't kill Archaon or Mannfred.

>>54556154
Shutting her up with deep kisses, rectifying the errors she has called out with fervor, doing something completely different, pulling out and just laying there doing nothing, nibble on her ear.
Stuff.

>>54556062
MOrathi escaped to the Warp after Finuval Plains to avoid being nuked by Teclis.

>>54554916
>Dethklok aren't Exalted Champions of Slaanesh

C'mon bro

>>54551862
>they are in worst shape of all races
>>54552359
>Lizardmen sit in crumbling ruins and go to war only when someone stole their plate, High Elves and Empire take Chaos threat on their own while joke toads think centuries to ask what happened.

It's more complicated than that. And as much as I love the Lizards, I have come to the conclusion that their role in the story was never to be The Heroes. They think too rigidly, and are too dedicated to carrying out the Old Ones plans to come up with a crazy idea like creating the magic sucking vortex like the High Elves did. They're there to hold the line, but Chaos understands them enough to know that for all their power, their rigidity means they can 'simply' defeat them with a war of attrition, like they were doing when the Gates originally collapsed. The fact that they were losing daemons by the millions over hundreds of years demonstrates both those facts quite well I think.

But that doesn't mean they aren't defending the world from Chaos constantly. They work to shore up their magical energy grid and dedicate its powers to reinforcing the Vortex's job, and the Slann spend a LOT of time in the Warp/Aethyr itself, fighting daemons directly (and very rarely do they die because of it). Then there's the fact that most large Chaos invasions of the Old World also coincide with attacks on Lustria of a similar size, since while they are isolated, the raw might of the Lizardmen armies and magic is a huge threat to the forces of Chaos.

And while many of their cities are in 'ruins', that doesn't mean they're totally depopulated and unused, with many housing structures and spawning pools still intact and in-use by the Lizardmen, with the last Army Books even talking about a 4th city that was being rebuilt because The Plan said so (and I should also note, the books say that the Lizardmen flat out abandon cities because The Plan says so too).

>>54556347
except that was Malekith

>>54556352
Pretty sure each would be a different Chaos God, but would fuck up literally every Chaos plan and action like Thanquol was in charge of the Warp.

>>54556376
I thought he was fighting Tyrion.

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>>54552000

>the Lizardmen will get a legendary Skink in Total Warhammer?

Tehenhauin is coming along with Lord Skrolk in the Skink and the Stink Lord Pack

>>54556347
That was Malekith, you numbskull.

>>54556377
There's five members.

Which is the Band member for Malal?

>>54556374
If I had to pick a race who was in the absolute Worst shape, without going for someone like the Giants who had their whole race turned into drunken violent inbreds by the Ogres, then I would have to say Beastmen. Because they don't do anything other than shit all over everyone else's stuff, until someone defeats them the survivors limp back to the forests. With Dwarves and Chaos Dwarves tied for 2nd, if we assume Thorgrim's attempts to 'modernize' his people don't do much in the long-term.

Wood Elves take a distant 3rd place, but only because they largely don't give a fuck about anything aside from their forest. But assuming Chaos never conquers the world, they're still fucked in the long-term. If/when Brettonia starts to industrialize, it's going to want to cut down those trees for fuel, the same way everyone else wants to. And short of genociding all their neighbors, there's not much they can do to stop that. Though their manipulations of Bretonnia were certainly doing a good job of slowing things down. But depending on how seriously you considered the fluff about the looming peasant revolt, it probably wasn't going to work forever.

>>54556352
>implying there's not one for each God, with Nathan following Chaos Undivided (and fuck anyone who says that's not an option anymore!)

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>>54556395
>Skink and the Stink Lord Pack
>mfw reading this
If that's not the name it totally needs to be.

>>54556449
Just as a counterpoint, Bretonnia has the Forest of Chalons and the Forest of Arden to get wood from. Athel Loren is larger than both of those combined, but if Bretonnians really want to they don't have to go after the place.

>>54556424
Murderface - Malal
Toki - Nurgle
Skwisgaar - Slaanesh
Pickles - Tzeentch
Nathan Explosion - Khorne

>>54556352
Slaanesh aren't anywhere near Brutal enough for Dethklok

>>54556511
Do you have a reasoning behind them?

>>54556282
I can only find one name, but Tzara'riador’s, a Lord of change, that was after running out of the warp tough.

>>54556318
Archaon got plot armor, and halas, his darts can't pierce this one.

Hey all, I vaguely remember a Lich supplement for WFRP (2e), I think it was probably homebrewed stuff, but if anyone else knows what I'm talking about, and where to find it, I'd be very thankful.

>>54555962
The Empire have always had British accents in print and vidya because.

>>54556096
>friendship with Khaine ended
>Azunyan is my friend now

>>54557084
You mean the one with the undead elf?

>>54556079
>yew call THAT thrustin, mayfly?
>[snotty elf laugh]

>>54557122
I guess?

What I remember is that it had some modified stuff from Nights Dark Masters (maybe it was a supplement?) and reccomendations about which vampire Bloodline powers would be appropriate to give to Liches and uber-powerful Necromancers.

>>54557084
There is an undead elf necromancer in Karak Azgal
It's not homebrew, but an official adventure module. Pretty fun, but it's best when used as source for info about the life in a dwarf hold and general inspirationfor your campaign

>>54554465
Blue table painting used too but it's been a long time since I followed them

>>54557133
>urge to nibble on elf ears intensifies

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Norse Explorers or Marauders of Chaos for Mordheim?

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>>54556470
Anon if you like that you'll love the next DLC that will be Eltharion vs his Imperial Thiccness.
The Grim and the Grom.

>>54557320
I suspect DLC's will be focused on races from second game, like Hellebron vs Alarielle.

>>54557219
I'll check that out, thanks.

>>54557320
>tfw I never realized how much I want Grom the Paunch as a Legendary Lord

>>54557401
Makes sense. In TWW2 you can take any race city, and Grom squatted in the Empire for a long time.

The only question is do you change the timeline or do you have Grom survive a trip through the Warp and come back for round 2?

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>>54554100

I can explain it. So vampires are dead. They are animated by Dhar as much as any undead being. Their exceptions to normal undead rules are multitudinous, but this is not one of them.

Some of them are able to hide their 'Dhar signature' a lot better than others, namely the Von Carsteins as they need to move among humans. Blood helps maintain their ability to drain Dhar from the environment. All vampires naturally draw Dhar to themselves to stay animated, they apparently cannot stop doing this, as if Dhar stops, they would 'die' but we've never heard of a vampire 'starving' for lack of blood. What we have heard is that they devolve and eventually go insane, but turning into vargheists and other horrible things.

The dhar vortex is thus present in all vampires, but is very powerful in a particular bloodline, namely the necrarches. They absorb FAR more dhar into their bodies than other vampires, which makes them both excellent spellcasters and allows them to survive for much longer periods of time without blood. They still need it, just less so than other vampires.

You may also be thinking about the Dhar Well, namely Sylvania. That has to do with the fucktons of warpstone in the soil and that the place is absolutely saturated with Dhar, making it a popular place for necromancers and vampires alike.

>>54557545
The same way you have Azhag the Slaughterer in TWW. By saying, fuck time, we want Heroes! Gork or Mork decides Grom needs to come back.

>>54557660
Azhag died during Karl Franz' reign at least. He does fit within the rough timescale.

>>54557660
Or Vlad von Carstein and Isabella. Or Grombindal. Or on a lesser note, how the Bretonnian lords are stuck with different factions for whatever reason.

>>54557781
Meh. TWW runs on the rule of Cool

>>54557791
The timeline didn't change for Grombrindal, he's Dwarf Green Knight/Alith Anar.

>>54557791
Grombrindal is a ghost, he can appear wherever and whenever he wants

>>54556333
boring out of 10

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>>54542908
How does this look?

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>>54558102
Still coming up with Hedge marks though.

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>>54557084
?

>>54557791
But Vlad is best, Mannfred a shit.

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>>54557377
>I suspect DLC's will be focused on races from second game, like Hellebron vs Alarielle.

So, battlefield of mud, or battlefield of melted chocolate?

>>54558141
Vlad comes marching in with the Infantry, then Isabellas flying corps comes in.

>>54556250
I thought he kind of did? He went from a little brat, who realized being actually evil really sucks, and mellowed out. Enough so that he and Harry can just be cordial when they meet.

>>54557377
We gonna get 2 new LL for each faction tough, to bring everyone to 4 LL. So we can still exepect Eltharion, and if he is here, then HIS OPPULENT MAJESTY will be here too.

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>>54558252
>No, Dad, I don't want to clean the castle!
>I'm sorry about the mess

>>54556517
Nigga you clearly know jack shit about Slaanesh

>>54558196
Come to think of it, I haven't read the latest play they did. Maybe that stuff has changed in the mean time, but I do recall her saying he was a nasty little boy when Deathly Hallows was released.

>>54558333
Throwing Dethklok into Warhammer settings is like throwing Doomguy into them. They win.

>>54558166
>Malekith and Tyrion as the coaches.
>Tyrion is shirtless, just incase he needs to step in, but also to taunt Malekith.
>Teclis in the corner reading a book

>>54558399
Do yourself a favor and don't read up-jumped fan fiction. It's awful, and I don't want to hijack a Warhammer thread anymore than I already have. to go into the details of how bad it is.

>>54557219
>There is an undead elf necromancer in Karak Azgal

And this is why you disregard rpg fluff.

>>54558431
Elves are perfectly capable of both being undead and being necromancers.

Now, if he was a vampire, that'd raise eyebrows.

>>54557839
No, he's physical.

He's just a demigod honor bound to not die until he punches Malekith in the dick and razes all of Naggaroth, but because he can't do that he just wanders and helps Dwarfs.

>>54558399
He's a nasty little shit, but one who grows up even if he can't really man up. Like Dudley, he just realizes what a cunt he is and stops being it.

Slytherins become not shit when they are cornered animals.

>>54557219
>>54557084
Besides the (very unusual) elf liche in Karak Azgal, Lure of the Liche Lord has stats for generic elf wights, should your PCs be lucky enough to find a War of Vengeance era tomb and stupid enough to try and rob it.

Those wights aren't happy no one has come to pick up their corpses like they were supposed to.

>>54558492
Don't forget how the entirety of the coast of Cothique is Elf ghosts who don't give a shit about Chaos supposedly claiming souls because they refuse to die.

Otherwise you'd be GW during End Times.

>>54558534
How can there be elf undead when Slaanesh eats the souls of any elves who die?

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>>54558580
>8th edition lore

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>>54558580
You tell me.

>>54558580
Because he doesn't get all the souls, and the idea that he did was 8e shit.

>>54558580
That's a pretty new construction, and elves can get their own underworld goddess to grab their souls - and even then, undead presumably means you don't lose your soul, unless you're a zombie.

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>>54558597
Whos that hes giving the hand?

>>54558597
So why the decision to have Slaanesh have first dibs on elf souls? To make it more like 40k, or because CHAOS IS STRONGER THAN ALL GODS SO THEY MIGHT AS WELL NOT EXIST ANYMORE

>>54558678
Some beggar looks like.
Typical elf, can't even help those in hard times because they are too far up their own asses

>>54558709
Probably both.

>>54558640
Is that bottom left a chick?

How is it that a fucking ZOMBIE looks more feminine than almost any other GW model?

>>54558709
Edge.

Edge and copypasta from 40k

>>54558804
Long hair?
It's a Sister of Sigmar.

>>54558709
Well wasn't it that Slaanesh was the only Chaos God elves worshipped? Like I am pretty sure there was a cult of Slaanesh at some point in elvish history.

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>>54558709
I think GW was a little too proud of the ideas they came up with for 40k, and thought that WFB needed a little more of that grimdark factor that seemed to make 40k so popular. Maybe they also were worried about copyright or standing out, so adding things like that would make them unique from other fantasy settings.

Problem is the 'Slaanesh eats their souls' thing means nothing when it's not their fault Slaanesh exists like with the Eldar. And the fact that we know it's directly copy pasted from 40k makes it lame - at least when 40k took elves from WFB, it tried to make them a bit different.

>>54558873
Retconned in 6e.

Morathi was Slaanesh's high priestess and all Champions were announted by her. She wanted to summon Slaanesh directly into the world without his brothers to become her husband.

Gav Thorpe didn't like it, so he said they worship a goddess with no power that is functionally the same and Slaanesh eats all elf souls. Then he forgot to remove the references to elf ghosts who disregarded their own death as unimportant.

>>54559143
I mean retconned in 8e.

How would you rate the different magics lores?

How about those available to the Empire?

>>54559163
Yeah I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure they still made mention to the cult of Slaanesh in 7th

>>54559143
>>54559163
Gav Thorpe is a fucking moron, and anything he has to do with Fantasy tends to be shit upon examination.

>>54559368
Ah, the good old days. When Gav Thorpe was the meme villain of GW instead of Matt Ward.