Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1635: No One Sings Like Gaston! Edition

>>54518668
No one's slick like Gaston

>>54518697
No one's quick as Gaston

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>>54518668
No one's smug like Gaston

>>54518707
No one's neck is as incredibly thick as Gaston.

Gives a hug like Gaston!

>>54518719
Gives great hugs like Gaston.

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>>54518727

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Fixed the costume import. This is why I shouldn't make jumps at 2:00am.

>>54517010
I don't think there's a Star Sapphire/Violet Lantern Corps in the DCAU. It's just the one character and her background is never explained.

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>>54518750
When was the last time you stopped your friend from killing you in broad daylight merely by your neck being sufficiently thick?

>>54518762
Are you going to do the Akira jump for real?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXioRNYy4s

We're the rats

We play at night, we stalk at night

How far does Spanner in the Works from Worm extend? Does it apply to organizations I control, assets I control, or just me?

>>54518732
No one routs and kicks out faceless thugs like Gaston!

>>54518629
...And once again, I somehow end up making the very last post of the thread. Of all the luck...

Anyway, please let me know if you have any issues with Wee Sing; otherwise I'll get it onto the drive tonight.

Is it possible to use Power of Dominance from Castlevania as a force for good? Or does it wind up still being too evil?

>>54518986
Yes. It's one of the only absolute soul defense perks in the chain.

>>54519002
I'm talking it's main aspect of "collecting monster souls as minions and learning their shit."

>>54518875
No, It only applies when the effect would be beneficial.

>>54518986
Going by the games, it can be used on some pretty inconsequential creatures, things that only technically have souls. There are much fewer moral issues if the soul you're binding is that of a cockatrice instead of a person.

>>54519015
I'm asking about the Precog blocking effect.

>>54518986
Depends on your own morality and how you make use of it.

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So I've got the gift for you guys. The FULL Saiyan Saga of Jumper Ball Z! https://pastebin.com/TqGQ5XF3

Ten pages on my Word Doc. I've got to get through Namek, 'Androids', Cell, AND Buu.

Are there any jumps that cover 1967-1970?

>>54519046
Did you make a jump where all of the perks doubled as waifus/waifu bait?

I have vague memories of 'walk into hut, find blood covered woman' if that's jogs anything?

>>54519165
I think that'd be Rurouni Kenshin, by HeavensAnon.

And it's less waifubait, more "all the plot hooks ever."

>>54519165
Doesn't have the blood covered woman, but the Tenchi jump has all the perks and drawbacks supply you with waifus.

>>54519197
>plot hooks ever
Really? I know shit about the story, so care to explain?

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>>54519165
All Jumps I've made Exalted Mortal Heroes Gauntlet, German Hollow Quest, How to Train Your Dragon, Kamigawa, Samurai Deeper Kyo, The Legend of Zelda Minish Cap, the Melancholy of Haruhi, and Warhammer Fantasy Orcs and Goblins.

>>54519213
I know jack shit about the story as well, I'm going off the jump. Go read it, you'll see what I mean.

>>54519197
Can you post it?

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>>54519299
oiejfjnqrferijger

Don't say I never do anything nice.

>>54519135
Pretty sure one of the eras in the Sabaton jump covers that. Think it's the Arab-Israeli one.

>>54519329
"You never do anything nice"
There, I said it, whatcha gonna do about it? Come at me bro!

>>54518562
Their R&D department is literally putting the crafting and science clubs of 3 valkyrie training schools together and saying figure out how to make this work.

>>54519347
Whoops. That's a negative. It actually ends with the Six Day War in '67. Sorry

You should still jump it, because Sabaton

>>54518821
No.

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>>54519360
Not that anon, but I'll...I'll...throw my head at you!

>>54518495
Musician describes blues as a type of rock music in the background.

>>54519329
Thanks.

>>54519453
So what are these Valkyrie core things everyone was talking about last thread and where are they found?

>>54519409
Man, why be such a faggot? Just use some other shitty setting for you /jc/-humour level jokes if you aren't even gonna make a jump for it.

>>54519400
Pretty sure that's just the students playing at R&D. The real R&D people are working on the GIANT WAVE FORCE MOON CANNON.

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>>54519484
Golfball to tennisball sizef hypercomputers that are like a mix of high tech armor, a bag of holding, and a symbiote. Allows for the use of impeller fields which are total bs awesome, and allows the user to upgrade their frame simply by tossing new weapons and stuff into the backpack (which does not always need to be a backpack) its from this, and it is AWESOME.

Plus any tech or basically anything you toss into the nullspace will gradually be upgraded. New stuff takes time to integrate into the armor though, a molecular fabrication unit took about 60 days to sync iirc.

Its one of my new favorite toys. Plus the processirs are THE AWESOME.

>>54519504
Yeah you are probably right, still the wave force is such an op cheaty move, too bad you have to blow your arms off to use it.

>>54519135
And I just realized I'm a fucking idiot, we've got the Paradox jumps for all your history needs.

>>54519503
I know this is bait but is there any reason you can't or don't want to do it yourself? The manga isn't that long and I'm sure you could just get away with watching the movie.

>>54519587
>needing arms
[laughing anna]
[except anna may not know how to laugh any more because she's only been fighting for a good chunk of her life]
[sad everyone]

>>54519603
>implying people can't tell namefags to fuck off with their shit without baiting
I haven't made a jump, and I never will. But I think it's a cunt move to prend to post an actual Akira jump to get my hopes up, while all I got in reality is yet another jump for a superhero whose only power is his gigantic plotarmour.

>>54519616
Got to love the armed forces there though, someone uses a death laser once, they dont even know how it works let alone how to recreate it. "BUILD A FUCKING MOON CANNON OUT OF THAT, START NOW WE WILL FIGURE OUT HOW IT WORKS LATER!"

>>54519650
To be fair, even Anna didn't really know how it works.

>>54519616
This setting seems to be another bad deconstruction mainly about ptsd and shit.

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>>54519679
Wait, she doesn't? I got the impression she just had difficulty explaining it, rather than being unable to understand how it works?

>>54519563
I noticed that the Valkyrie frame section doesn't give any kind of baseline for complexity or storage or any benchmarks for how much of an increase Increased Complexity and Storage Volume gives was this intentional?

>>54519699
If you don't buy them, can you still train your skills to mighty or grandmaster-level in Anima?

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>>54519679
She knows how to do it but is a terribad teacher and cant explain because she goes by what feels right.

I just want to squeeze those emotionless little cheeks, hug her, and tell her its gonna be ok because the spacefleet is here and the ants wont ever hurt her or her friends again.

Then build pillowforts with her.

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>>54519725
Yup! It's built into the RPG/Setting, people with Zen capability can just train themselves and git gud enough to ride around beams of light.

>>54519704
I didnt make it.

>>54519763
well, whoever did be aware of that and rectify that

>>54519749
Nice. Thanks for the swift reply.

We've got corporations of all kinds up for purchase here and there, but do we have any jumps that let you buy things like a wrestling promotion or sports league?

>>54519769
We didn't really get much of an idea as for how much they can contain or integrate, I don't think? Anna carries around a ridiculous number of missiles though, and recently added stuff like a medical module and a fabricator, and apparently has a lounge chair in her inventory, but I don't think we ever really got a "Yes, you can hold THIS MUCH in your inventory" post.

>>54519777
No problem!

>>54519882
So what Is the upper limit of WHAT it can contain and integrate? Give me a ballpark on the technology level It can reproduce or assimilate.

How do you guys neatly organize your builds and character's powers and skills?

>>54519950
Google Docs.

>>54519950
I don't.

>>54519918
In setting we have seen the power armor frames, higgs generators, atomic quatum fabricators, medical systems good enough to fix a person up from having their everything broken, and a bunch of exotic nanobots and weird alien nanobots that anna seems to get from eating the ants.

If you go to SCP, you can pretty much assume that anything of importance can slice through "absolute" defenses and "immunities" like butter, correct?

>>54519882
>a ridiculous number of missiles though
Meant to delete that- They're fired from hip-mounted launchers, so they're probably small enough to not a good benchmark. There's 260 of them.

>>54519918
Um, at one point she shoves a bunch of construction materials in her storage, then expresses them to build a piping system for a... town, I want to say? She implies she could just filter the water through her own system, but her AT-Field-Analogue is too spread out, so she's afraid she'd accidentally introduce impurities. For complexity, >>54519978 stuff.

>>54519950
Microsoft OneNote.

It is the shit, seriously it is free and syncs on all devices and is plain awesome in every way except one.

You cant export to pdf on the phone, you can on the pc, but not on mobile.

>>54519950
I've taken to keeping a character sheet since Cherry Tree makes it relatively easy, actually getting into the thick of it ends up making me way more powerful than I ordinarily would be since I tend to underestimate myself.

>>54519950
Actually, didn't someone make basically a jumper character sheet?
does anyone have that?

>>54520002
She built the entire water and sewer system for a town then built the houses in a 24 hours or so just by sucking in the materials and using her impeller to move stuff while expressing the completed project, its really useful.

>>54520002
>AT-Field-Analogue
Are Impeller Fields one-way, then? Are they less like omnidirectional force-fields and more like shields that happen to be made of force?

>>54519950
Docs, which means it's not all that organized and finding stuffs a bitch when I have to wait like 15 seconds for the full document to load, even though I've split it across three different documents. It's getting ridiculous

>>54519999
Yes. The lowliest SCP could bend Jump-Chan over a table.

>>54520015
Shit, misread the question, but I still gave a backwards answer, Cherry Tree.

>>54520035
Kinda like shields except you can make them any shape you want and use them in all kinds of crazy ways like use them as hands, or tentacles, or whips, or use them as shields, or build stuff with them, or overlay weapons and armor with them to make it sharper and stronger.

They get stronger and better with practice iirc.

>>54519999
What. That's. Why SCP in particular.

I figured absolutes and immunities are something people fanwank on their own initiative anyhow, I can't think of anything in SCP in particular that would merit special attention. The occasional reality reset often sees a few fragmented survivors, the closest thing there is to consensus canon is the assumption that literally EVERYTHING is afraid of everything else and some of the most powerful cosmic beings around are fucked up.

There's a senile not!Outer God that simply dwindled from age into hallucinary mating octopi. Another one called Totleigh accidentally lobotomised himself because he got tired of being a cosmic destroyer and decided to take physical form as a software dev instead. The freaking Scarlet King is currently imprisoned under a sea of salt, in a giant pearl from the Father of Oysters. And the being to which HE is a pet, is itself imprisoned by another entity that had to make itself into its' prison.

If anything, the assumption seems to be a tacit canon "everything goes".

>>54519978
>the power armor frames

So they are also Von Neumann machines?

>atomic quatum fabricators

Are they atomic or quantum because those are entirely different scales,but basically were talking symbiont symbionts in complexity?

>>54520002
>Um, at one point she shoves a bunch of construction materials in her storage, then expresses them to build a piping system for a... town, I want to say? She implies she could just filter the water through her own system, but her AT-Field-Analogue is too spread out, so she's afraid she'd accidentally introduce impurities. For complexity, >>54519978 stuff.

that's a lot of material used in A very large scale good to know. is the story on PDF anywhere or do I have to read the thread?

>>54519999
>>54520070
>>54520102
SCP is basically "what if a thousand Wildbows wrote horror pitches while trying to one-up each other all the time".

>>54520035
>>54520086
Oh I forgot you can also use them to bend gravity a bit and at high levels straight up rip a small hole in reality to either teleport or explode stuff.

Or cause something called corrosion which appears to be opening rips in space and releasing radiation

They can also be used to offload most all biological functions at higher levels, annas heart doesnt beat because she uses her impeller for everything, she things with it and uses it to move, she forgot how to run without it.

She tried turning it off, that was a bad idea.

>>54520070
>I don't like this thing so I'm going to sarcastically affirm it in a negative context

I don't know why your type of coping mechanism is so common in these threads. Do you think you're being witty? Or does insulting everyone else's intelligence give you some small comfort?

>>54520108
Bancho, put your trip back on.

>>54520108
Quantum computing matrix processors. But the tech is super good.


To read click here then under the links with the pictures and character bio click index for all the author posts.


https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/battle-action-harem-highschool-side-character-quest-no-sv-you-are-the-waifu.15335/#post-3031624

>>54519950
LibreOffice Calc for tracking purchases and CherryTree for organizing things.

>>54520128
I disagree, I'm not sure how to say why though.

Other than that lately, I get the impression a lot of the authors are outspoken liberals. Nothing concrete but-where there are character pieces, seems like the sort of stuff I'd read on tumblr somewhere.

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Just a small interlude: https://pastebin.com/KBVcNtam

I've decided to head off from DBZ and make another build elsewhere. I've done enough for now methinks.

>>54520139
I don't get what your problem is. Do you disagree with the statement? Considering we seem to agree it's true, I'd assume not.

>>54520195
Oh? If that's the case, how long do you think it'll be until they have The Patriarchy as an SCP or something?

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>>54520218
That reminds me of something...

>>54520108
>Durga’s underlayers drip out, thin tendrils of material spreading outward. Using it only to expand your peripheral Impeller range like so, you keep the tendrils thin enough that they should be invisible from the ground. Your range expands until you are encompassing the entire town. You reach down towards the docks with one tendril and you take part of the construction materials into your storage.

>Firstly, you work on constructing underground pipes for both the electric and water lines. Lifting dirt and crushing through rock, your Impeller clears voids underneath the ground in accordance to the town blueprints and you express out the piping into those voids. Next you need to shift the currently functional electricity and water supply lines into the new channels without disrupting supply. Electricity is easy, you simply channel the electricity through your Impeller. Water… isn’t.

Is it in action when she built the town. It's the last story post, in case you want to just look at that section.

>>54520108
>So they are also Von Neumann machines
No, the frame is the armor, not the core. Cores can't integrate cores except in the non-canon yandere valk-eating Setsuna omake.

>>54520258
This art is just bad.

Funny enough, DC Comics (who are doing miles better than Marvel at the moment) came out recently to say that the comics industry is pretty much dying right now.

>>54520071
Hey, Hero Academia question.

For the Overhaul quirk, how long can you go between "exploding things" and the "reconstruction" part? Are we talking seconds, minutes, or hours?

>>54520213
I think you're full of shit, you know it and you're trying to provoke amusing responses because you don't have anything better to do with your time.

Yes, I completely disgaree with the statement.

>>54520218
Funny thing, the most unambiguously evil faction on the site, the Daevites, is explicitly a matriarchy. Hell the Sarkic Cults were humanised a lot when it was revealed they were formed afte their leader contacted the eldritch overgoddess of flesh in order to rebel against them. And prior to that little revelation, the Sarkic Cults were all about bringing on fleshscape apocalypses. They still mostly are, but now there's even at least 1 nice one and it's implied they're mostly assholes because of the people running them ever since Ion left.

>>54520284
Ans they also said it was because they are forcing politically correct feminist crap into the comics and that the people who actually buy comics dont like that shit.

Of course they got screamed at for stating the truth.

How much of the Shards' massive scales is because the Entities can't be bothered to downscale or improve on anything by their own means? Because I refuse to believe that as big as they are, even holding back and dividing their capabilities enormously, that most of that mass isn't just useless waste.

>>54520365
The funny thing is, screaming at DC over it isn't going to hurt DC since they already decided not to kow tow to that. They just get to sit there smug and soak up the dying Marvel audience. If your opponent is making a mistake, let them.

>>54520363
I don't believe I know anything about the Daevites, though I do know the fleshies and the ironies.

>>54520403
Who the fuck knows. It's all magic bullshit and, like most writers, he doesn't actually know how scale and numbers work.

>>54520363
Okay, fine. Maybe I exaggerated slightly for comedic effect.

"There are plenty of beings in SCP who could bend Jump-Chan over a table."

There, happy? Do you still disagree?

>>54520403
It's probably most of it, let's be honest. We know the reason they use wasteful and destructive FTL is because they're too retarded to look at other ways to do it (That they might even have fucking recorded already at that.)

>>54519950
Wikipedia.

>>54520312
We're not totally sure yet, the guy with it in the series hasn't reconstructed anybody in front of us yet. For now I'll rule you can go a couple minutes, but that might change when new information comes up.

>>54520441
There's nothing in SCP that can't be laughed at by an Exalt.

>>54520403
>>54520434
>>54520464
So the Entities are literally retarded enough that even godlike tech can't help them?

>>54520403
Who knows. But at even 0.1% of their size, they were as lare as a planet, and they basically got most of their powers from evolution + stealing them from other races. On the other hand, they had to translate their new technology into shards themselve, and with their fuckhuge knowledge of science I don't think they would be too wasteful. And the Worm universe runs on vanilla science, so maybe all that mass and size is simply needed to get all those powers.

>>54520495
They're basically just short of incapable of innovation.

>>54520494
Wew lad. Now who's full of shit and knows it?

>>54520403
It's hard to tell, honestly. I don't think there's ever been a concrete answer to that, when apparently studying human brains would've given them lots of insight into not being autistic.

It's sorta implied that the processes are so complicated they NEED to be that complicated just to keep running? Like, Eden's splattered remains bend into multiple worlds and fold space in weird ways, apart from just being a bunch of mashed meat.

The most stupid part of what >>54520434 said is that Wildbow never explained how the fuck anything "naturally" evolves the ability to tunnel into alternate realities. Maybe they discarded perfectly good forms of FTL because it wasn't strong enough to lift their fatasses across a sizeable distance-which would work perfectly fine for anything less fat than an Entity.

>>54520464
>>54520495
But, to be fair. Whereas things like mammals evolved higher thought gradually over millions of years, from what Wildbow wrote of them the Entities pretty much got stuck in a Devonian-like period of constant nomnomnom before one had it's big, bright idea. And was promptly eaten.
>>54520426
They go way back near when the site was started, pretty straightforward spooky evil sacrifice cult stuff. A callback from when SCP was mainly founded by creepypasta writers.

>>54520441
>implying you are comedic
>implying implications when people fanwank the Benefactor all over the place
>implying I could possibly make a value judgement to that effect

No, and yes.

>>54520128
>SCP is basically "what if a thousand Wildbows wrote horror pitches while trying to one-up each other all the time".

That's probably why I have no real desire to find out more whenever I hear about SCP.

>>54520441
Not that anon, but I do, yes. The whole point of the Jump-chan idea is that she's more powerful than anything in any of the settings she drops you in. She's a thing that exists outside the confines of the narrative, and is therefore not bound by its rules. It's like a fictional character being more powerful than the person writing them (that Jump-chan is herself fictional is unimportant for the sake of this argument). She can casually rewrite reality in incredibly convoluted and often self-contradicting ways for the sake of the jumper, and not a single thing notices unless the jumper chooses for them to via drawbacks. Any given player can choose to interpret Jump-chan as less powerful than that, but saying it as if it's automatically true that there are more powerful things than her in the setting is silly.

>>54520515
You are, because any other position is pure fucking wank. SCP might like to hype itself silly, but even the most over blown shit on the site doesn't compare to a fucking dragonblooded.

>>54520491
Yeah, that's why I asked. Plus, it says "anything" in the description, as opposed to "anyone," so I was thinking it might have been purposely made different in case something new got revealed about his power.

I guess I might try to marry it to another quirk to extend the timer, 'cause I'm afraid of the nightmare scenario of blowing someone up, then getting incapacitated somehow and missing the deadline. Although, if that's how I want to use it, I might be better off just taking Meatball...

The entities are like idiot savants like Rainman.

>>54520548
I totally get where you're coming from, even though I actually like SCP. Like this site, there's a lot of shit and niche shit to wade through to get to the good stuff. A lot of writers get up their own ass doing worldbuilding and in-jokes; it can be executed well, but even then it does stand out.

And the good stuff is mostly horror, which is already not to everyone's taste.

>>54520497
The thing about that is, they clearly don't actually bother to really apply anything that they learn from analysis of their cycles, only coasting through on dimensional travel shenanigans and evolution.

>>54520593
To be fair, everyone in Worm is braindead.

This brings a question to mind; how large would you actually have to go if you were trying to emulate shards with technology? Because the shards' one big trick is that they connect to people remotely from other universes to provide their powers.

Once you have that, which doesn't appear to be that difficult or resource intensive, you just need to have the technology to preform the effect you're looking for, which shouldn't ever take up much space or energy compared to the shards.

>>54520574
Mmhm, that's the exact reason for the wording. Hope you can figure something out to soothe your concerns.

>>54520773
Again: We have no idea, because as anon said Wildbow has no sense of scale and/or treats it as comic book science. Add that in with space folding stuff, and we genuinely don't know.

All we know is the core bit of Scion that powers the avatar left over from shard dispersal is apparently a small plentoid.

>>54520645
>To be fair, everyone in Worm is braindead.
Good point.

>>54520838
>Again: We have no idea, because as anon said Wildbow has no sense of scale and/or treats it as comic book science.
Its comic book science that he and his fans treat as real science.

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>>54520071
Paralyzation upgraded + Cement power, could I basically turn people into stone with eye contact? And have it last for awhile?

>>54520909
Sure, though it'd likely be pretty temporary at first.

>>54518762
You may want to revisit the Drawback cap, possibly make more drawbacks.
Running the Jump through a quick "Be the Protagonist" test.

Jumper McGinnis
Enforcer
Enforcer Perk-line: 600 CP.
Enforcer Item-line: 650 CP
(AND Makes me want to carve out your eyeball with a rusty spoon for the 50 CP overage caused by not making the 100 CP item free also)
Bat-Suit: 600 CP
Companions: HaHa what companions! You are already 250 CP over the max drawback limit.

>>54520870
>Its comic book science that he and his fans treat as real science.
Then every sci-fi science is comic book science. They literally have access to the energy of an extremely vast number of universes plus the tech they pilfered from at least 3000 different species (the number of cycles). And it's already canon that they need to use ridiculous amounts of energy to do anything. Iirc they communicate with the energy of a supernova. So if there's that much energy thrown around by them I can totally believe all the stuff they do is done by irl science.

>>54520980
Yeah, but that's utterly retarded because nothing they do would ever require that amount of energy, and in fact, would only be hindered by it. Do you think that just because there's bigger numbers involved that it somehow makes it less stupid? It's the opposite, attaching such ludicrous scale to even simple actions makes it totally unbelievable.

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Tell me Jumpers, what is the alt-form that you spend most time on?

If it isn't a dragon form, you have no taste.

>>54520980
Not him but I think he's referring to how the parahuman powers defy all scientific understanding, and the Entities' processes don't have a consistent scale we an understand. So the fluff may be "straight science", it's the applications which are arbitrary in the story.

I mean, Chevalier perceives other Shards as spooky familiars and Number Man's math powers apparently extend to surviving multi-story falls better than actually superstrong parahumans. Pretty sure Wildbow also straight up said that part where Taylor bound Crawler in spider silk was a goof on his part.

>>54521057
Now, to be fair-assuming there's a bit of Entity in a LOT of universes out there, it kinda makes sense in that they'd need proportionally ludicrous amounts of energy and complex processes to develop in meaningful ways.

I figured moving your arm takes less energy than moving your giant, worm-tentacle arm that exists in millions of universes, turns into 1000 kinds of laser and also is part of your brain.

>>54519600
Not until we get an EU Rome jump

>>54521081
Gunslider Human Form

>>54521081
a banana

>>54520978
Or add a 200 CP credit for Psionics/Splicing/Cybernetics/Mutation/Experimentation/Costume Enhancements and make
The costume Free/200CP/400CP/600CP instead of Free/300CP/600CP.

And make the 100 CP items free to their matching background also.

>>54520978
Not every jump needs to let you be the protagonist. If you want to be that much of a super speshul Mary Sue, SB is thataway. ----------->

>>54521120
Tell me more about the banana jumper.

>>54521081
Pretty much human..ish.

I also spend time in dragon, hydra, and HOLY GOD SAVE ME WHAT THE HELL IS THAT. forms.

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>>54521081
Human form. It's the one that is easiest to use for interacting with most people.

>spoiler
But if we're talking non-human forms, then yes. Dragon takes the top spot.

Usually a d&d-style dragon, except grown to much greater size. But I switch between a lot of dragon forms, though I've only got one eastern dragon for now.

>>54521081
Dragons can't fit into comfy chairs unless they're tiny.

...cat dragon cuddling in laps?

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>>54521081
Alt-form eh? Oddly enough I spend it as Lucemon child modev2 , it helps that I am actually nice and even more holy then the original. The only real difference between us is that I go a holy route while the original went evil. I grabbed the digivolving armor and weapons too.

>>54520978
>be the protagonist test

When has this ever been a thing

Why is this a thing

>>54521179
Bananas can't type, silly.

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>>54521081
it's a bit of a mix but I got the base from PS 238 with my knockoff of E-Bon powers.

>>54521243
Some people do want to be relevant to the plot, though no it's not a standardized thing.

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>>54521215
Tiny lap dragon best dragon.

>>54521276
This may astound you somewhat, but in almost every form of fiction out there.

The majority of characters who are not the protagonist, are in fact. Relevant to the plot. Not every story is Dragonball Z.

>>54521318
>The majority of characters who are not the protagonist, are in fact. Relevant to the plot.
Oh sure I'm anon wants to be on the level of a random no name villain or hero that gets beaten up in one episode and never shows up again.

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>>54521081
Pic related.
I mean, yeah. It's not as intimidating or as generally as useful as something like a dragon, but damn if it isn't fun as fuck. Also, it's useful as a disguise if, for whatever reason, I can't go straight up invisible. Also, it's cute as fuck

>>54521342
>no name villain or hero that never shows up again

Why do you think that's something so universally present across all fiction ever that it merits serious consideration?

Harry Potter. The Bartimaeus Trilogy. Avatar (the cartoon). Hellsing. There, I just named 4 random IPs off the top of my head where that's total bullshit.

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>>54521215
Any dragon worth its scales can change their size at will.

>>54521223
Lucemon is the best in every form.

Although I don't know how you would go and 'uncorrupt' the most powerful and assholish of Demon Lords.

>>54521081
Well it's a dragon girl, specifically a Gria, third most is a shoggoth.

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So, what's the best way to avert everything in pi related?

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>>54519950
>>54520005

Can confirm, One-note is the tightest. I kind of wish it was easier to make duplicate of books for people making multiple chains but otherwise it is super organized.

Pic related's my usual setup for onenote

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Alright, it's done.

>Added OC companions and example Gashats.
>Added notes regarding Bugster tech.
>Attempted to make neat-looking page breaks. I really need to stop using GDocs
>Buffed Experimental Gashat with a new feature to make it worth purchasing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJYonZlkrg

>>54521468
Have you considered telling the kamen riders to NOT solve problems by kicking them?

>destroy the moon

>>54521501
It all makes sense now

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>>54521342
>>54521276

>He doesn't know about secondary characters who are cooler and more badass than the MC

Pff.

>>54521468
Was that really his kick or is it the fact that the Grongi explode after being killed with the explosion becoming bigger the stronger they are?

>>54521270
Can you choose the "source" of a power for Misc. Meta? Like, saying it's based in the soul or psionics?

>>54521405
>Harry Potter.
Bad example, Harry isn't the strongest person in his setting.

>>54521501
>>Buffed Experimental Gashat with a new feature to make it worth purchasing.

so you decided against the Weapon import thing?

>>54521554
yes you may.

>>54521581
Nice. Thanks, bancho.

>>54521501
>Blessing of the Gods
>allowing them to (if done right) become partially data and utilize otherwise letahl but powerful Gashats such as Dangerous Zombie.

>>54521558
No, he's one of the best examples. He is the MAIN one.

>>54521541
Also, fucking EXACTLY. That girl in the Tamora Pierce books rubs shoulders with the most powerful mage in the world (who she ends up boning), animal gods, fully grown dragons (which think gods are annoying) and a freaking basilisk.

>>54521541
Not everyone cares about 'coolness' like they were still teenagers.

>>54521615
Why did you tell us all the animals some random woman had sex with?

>>54521696
As opposed to what, caring about powerlevels like autistic manchildren? Good on them!

>>54521707
And you're just making weird, retarded assumptions for no reason. No, it's just Numair (the mage). She's a druid type, but not to doujin levels.

How the fuck did you make that leap in logic? I made a point of putting the boning part in brackets BEFORE listing all her friends.

>>54521615

People also kinda forget about shit like, I'unno, Black Lagoon where the guy most relevant to the plot(s) is a literal salaryman protagonist with his chief thing being pretty smart and knowing how to negotiate. Remy's an amazing gunslinger but even she's not as stupidly capable as someone like, say, Roberta

Who was killing (I think ex-)special forces agents with a fucking musket.

>>54520978
Technically Terry doesn't have the Enforcer capstone, that was based off Bruce. And you could get on his level through training and replicating his tech.

I might make the 100cp items free since the leftover 50cp could be annoying.

>>54521696
>implying /jc/ doesn't care about coolness

Have you even SEEN how many soundtrack/aesthetics/you do better at stuff the cooler you look perks there are out there?

Have you even SEEN how many drawbacks amount to "you are not as cool as you were before"?

>>54521731
Same thing in Majikoi, pretty much. The MC's a strategist sort, one of his friends explicitly gets compared to a more traditional shounen protagonist type-he's even the official leader of their gang.

>>54521728

Forget it, man, nobody wants to admit that "plot relevance" is an excuse

>>54521763
>Not everyone
I didn't think it'd be easy to misunderstand this term.

>>54521790
I only wish I knew what it was an excuse for, when as you said all too often side characters are far more OP compared to main ones.

Look at how Finn and Jake stack up to Prismo.

>>54521831
I'm not misunderstanding the term. I'm expressing extreme skepticism at it's basic premise, exaggerating in the context of the original defence for the main character test and now mocking you for being reduced to pedantry.

>>54521763
>Have you even SEEN how many...
There aren't that many. There are over 800 jumps and definitely no clear majority. Even if there was a majority, that reflects more on jumpmakers than jumpers.

>>54521888
It only reflects on how shitty people like Red are. Jumper > Setting, there should be no reason a jumper should be made weaker than a protag.

>>54521831

You forgot the >like teenagers
part being used to try and say that caring about being the Stronkest-i'm sorry, being able to stay plot relevant-is more mature(when "H-he's faster and stronger than Goku!" is just as or even less mature)

Not that being mature should even enter as a factor into a discussion in this place, if we're being totally honest.

>>54521501
So, there's a perk in The God of High School that lets you change your name and have everyone use the new one. Do you think it would be wrong of me to use power granting perks to give it to Dan, mind control him into changing his name from "Kurota" to "Gerous" and then wipe his memory of the event? I feel like that's wrong, but at the same time so very right.

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>>54521909

>>54521955
Fookin do it. You might not even need to mind control him, just give him a bluff check during one of his more manic moments.
>>54521598
Whoops.

>>54521545
The kick. Grongi do explode when killed, but it's your typical tokusatsu dead monster explosion. They don't cause much collateral damage. Kuuga just kicks that hard. There's a reason why the Linto believed that his Ultimate Form could destroy the world.

>>54521974
>Fookin do it. You might not even need to mind control him, just give him a bluff check during one of his more manic moments.
Yeah, who am I kidding, Dan would absolutely love everyone calling him "Dan Gerous". Alright, I'm a do it.

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>>54521501

Yeah boiii.

Besides Sting from Worm and Dimensional Slash from Overlord, what other attacks are there that nosell any defense? Please no answers that have anything to do with Exalted.

>>54522038
Any jump that where you believe in yourself and/or your friends.

>>54522038
Nah, Exalted doesn't really have many of those, don't worry about that. My personal favorite is Kamidachi, from Hero BBS. She's hard to work with (unless you take advantage of companion imports that change the imported person's personality), but she is a literally unstoppable god-blade that will kill anything that can be killed by having its pieces separated from each other.

>>54520909
Did you ever see the comment about your 3 stars gauntlet here?
>>54468163

>>54522038
Exalted doesn't really have those, just defenses that no sell any attack.

>>54522038
Anima Beyond Fantasy has a scenario that lets you upgrade A melee weapon to do that

>>54522074
Oh yeah, totally forgot about her. I'm pretty sure you could do something like that yourself if you were a Level 10 Magician, Kamidachi was created by one after all.

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>>54521501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiETVvdDa7Y

>>54522038
Superspin from Jojo can do some weird shit, anon. Like as in a dude hit by it was Sliding from one dimensions to another and still kept getting hit by the same attack.

>>54521081
The nonhuman alt-form I spend most of my time in... That would have to be Hollow.

>>54522131
>Kamidachi was created by one after all.
No, she's complete OC by the jumpmaker.

>>54519135
X-men Movies if you take A Blast From the Past to start at the time of First Class.

>>54522131
Kamidachi is OC, there's nothing in the series that no-sells stuff on the same level as her.

The sword waifus should have stopped at Tsundachi.

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>>54521598
I've never even seen Karmen Rider and even I can tell this man is amazing.

>>54522148
Super Spin + Spiral Power... Better idea or Best idea?

>>54522074
Anything can be killed with the right perks.

>>54522155
>>54522159
Yeah, I know she's OC. But the jumpmaker said that she's a level 10 sword, and there's a note saying they were all built by a legendary hero in the psat. Which means someone on the same level as that hero could create their own deredachi.

>>54521501
>Proto Gashat now has a "No Dual" restriction
>You can't Dual it with Proto Chronicle Gashat
>No leveling up your debug until you're basically rewriting the local area on a whim
Fug.

I mean, I don't understand the system anywhere near enough to know if doing that would be a good idea, but I thought it sounded neat.

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>>54522095
I'm not SJ-Chan.

>>54522149
And by Hollow, I meant Heartless. Don't try to answer a question about one thing while listening to somebody rant about Bleach.

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>>54522164
He's too good for this world.

>>54522218
That just means the jumpmaker was a powerwanker. You shouldn't abide by such things if you want your chain to be valid.

>>54522159
>spoiler
I'm personally still using the old PDF, before all this random swordwaifu crap was put in.

Mostly because I liked the original Tsundachi better, before the maker added a bunch of superfluous shit to it. Simplicity is nice.

>>54522218
People are just saying that there's no canon basis.

>>54522262
>powerwanker
>valid
If someone created a script that hides posts with certain words in them, you could filter out 99% of the shitposter's posts.

>>54522101
The Spear of Longinus (which is actually a shapeshifting weapon and doesn't have to be a spear) also permanently weakens anything that is hit by it. Each hit cuts away at least one of the victim's powers, possibly more if the blow did a lot of damage. So imagine combining that with the weapon you get if you're the El of Shadow in Kamen Rider Heisei Part 1. That weapons means that anyone cut with it can never grow in power. Being Longinus means that nothing can keep it from cutting you. And then each hit permanently weakens you and means you'll never be able to grow stronger. Nasty, nasty combo. It requires you to beat Omega, though, which is pretty damn tough.

>>54522274
You can do that with 4chan X. Back when I still tolerated /v/, I had a huge comment filter list with all the console war terms.

>>54522262
Because there's no one bitching about Red, I guess I'll aim this at you:
Yiff in Hell, furfag

>>54522286
>The Spear of Longinus
which?

>>54522311
The one from the Omega scenario in Anima Beyond Fantasy.

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>>54522164
>>54522260
Reminder since Dan does get a dataform once he dies once due to his MASTERDAN you can totally install Dan onto every computer and device possible

YOU WOULDNT DOWNLOAD A GAME DEVELOPER

>>54522286
Actually the El of Shadow Perk sends the one who is hit by its curse to not only, to not be able to grow in power, but to also stay at that metaphorical level one. The curse also extends to any of their descendants they my have after getting hit by it.

>>54522286
>El of Shadow
I love that ability and want to use it to avoid killing things too dangerous to be left alive, but the fact that it also screws over their descendants makes me hesitant.

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Cant we all just jump along happily without drama? Please?

>>54522286
I would love to get the spear but I have no idea how I would go about beating him.

>>54522286
does it still do that if you choose the import option? Because I Accidentally the entire combo

>>54522038
Neither of those can non-sell everything. But if you want powerful conceptual attacks as well, here are some:

>The spin in Jojo if taken to its last stage can pretty much no-sell everything
>There is also the MEoDP in Tsukihime
>Some Noble Phantasm can get pretty ridiculous, specially once F/GO is out
>Umineko has some conceptual weapons
>Highschool DxD's Boosted Gear has an ability to penetrate any defenses
>The Spear of Longinus attacks the soul directly and cannot be defended against besides of dogging it.

Also, in Overlord I would be more interested in TGoALiD if you want to bypass any defenses.

>>54522262
How can our chains be valid if we aren't valid?

>>54522273
Actually, there was a powerful sword with a -dere personality in the canon. The author just took that and created different swords based on the -dere archetypes.

>>54522343
Just castrate them

>>54522363
Look, sometimes you need to shove a person into concrete or liquify their body and stuff it into the stump of a tree

Kamen Rider Agito the series was kinda fucked up in that way

>>54522274
Just use the comment filter?

>>54522343
Well, I suppose that you can use some form of anti-curse spell/perk to get rid of it for them. So that's an option, I suppose.

>>54522387
>Look, sometimes you need to shove a person into concrete or liquify their body and stuff it into the stump of a tree
This and the way they look is why I am hesitant to even think of watching Kamen Rider.

>>54522357
>Actually, there was a powerful sword with a -dere personality in the canon
I know, I'm not complaining about that. I'm saying that there's no basis for something with a "no-sell everything" power, that's OC and doesn't even begin to resemble anything in the source material.

>>54522343
The only thing I don't like about that perk is how it prevents someone from growing as a person.

>>54522399
just Stick to kamen rider fourze and W those are the good ones anyway

Should I get Empty Night from Dresden Files of I eventually want to use magic to buff myself? It seems like it'd prevent such things, based on the description. Could I even use magic at all, or would it just be "devoured" once it manifests?

>>54522349
I assume so. It just says you get the Spear of Longinus, and can choose to combine it with a weapon. It only makes sense that the version you get has the stat block of the Spear in the book.

>>54521909
As for you, I don't know if you were the original person I was arguing with or just bandwagoning to stroke your e-peen.

Either way, fuck off. You're not wanted here.

>>54522343
See, I mostly use it for spiting villains who aspire to godhood by making sure they'll never reach it. And then when their ascension ritual or whatever fails I kill them during their moment of despair. So they're not going to have descendants to suffer from the curse.

>>54522399
Agito and Kuuga were the ones with really fucked up deaths because basically it was Monster/Serial Killer of the Week. Almost all the other Riders are a whole metric more tamer and kid friendly in comparison

Fucking Porcupine Grongi though

>>54522399
At least its not the SIC version of Kamen Rider.

>>54522433
The only bad series was Ghost, Kiva is so bad it's good and Wizard is boring but has amazing fight choreography.

>>54522363
I get what you're going for, but the idea of practicing eugenics on people I think are evil bothers me.

>>54522396
I need to alter the perk itself, otherwise I'd need some way individually cure each child. That sounds like too much work.

>>54522487
Could Real eater work?

>>54522481
What about Dickeido?

>>54522481
>Wizard is boring but has amazing fight choreography
And when the writing actually let the main characters actually have personalities, they were pretty entertaining. Haruto is so fun when he's acting sassy instead of being Blandy McHopespeech.

>>54522518
It's a mess

>>54522514
I don't want to use it because I dislike that perk and that jump.

How much of the Kamen Rider bullshit is true, and how much of it is wank?

>>54522433
>Those are the good ones
Wow. I mean, W and Fourze are alright, but if you honestly believe that those are the best ones, HOLY SHIT, your taste as actually 100% garbage. I mean, this was already pretty evident, but wow, that's a pretty hilariously actually wrong opinion.

>>54522399
You should give Kuuga and/or Agito a shot. They lack the absolute ridiculousness of the newer series while still managing to create moments of levity. They're pretty decently well written all things considered. If you ever are interested, the Kamen Rider General on /m/ has download links for those (and other) series.

Also, the practical effects aren't that grotesque. They're pretty basic, even if though they're handled seriously. I found the Bee Sniper Grongi that just kills random people instantly from miles away without anybody noticing until that person collapsed to the ground to be genuinely terrifying.

>>54522541
It's a bit mixed but leaning Towards realistic I say having watched Roughly 4 seasons out of Roughly 14.

>>54522357
>Actually, there was a powerful sword with a -dere personality in the canon. The author just took that and created different swords based on the -dere archetypes.
...Technically, the canon sword was male, didn't like the hero wielding (neither did she), and didn't have a -dere personality. He was just a womanizer who ditched his wielder whenever possible. It's only stated power aside from the human form was also that it was a "holy sword".

But we were talking about Kamidatchi's bullshit powers when calling it complete OC.

>>54522539
I understand
>>54522399
Kuuga also has the bests fights and final form

>>54522343
>>54522336
>>54522432

Apologies, gentlemen. The concept of the perk basically comes from the equivalent of the Anti-Spirals in Agito

So it has it's downsides, explicitly the descendants part of that curse is because the Overlord of Darkness would ADORE the idea of making sure humanity never evolves past needing protection by their god, or otherwise outgrows the Overlord and his angels

>>54522539
Oh, I get it. You're a spineless pussy that lets other peoples' opinions and morality dictate your own, too weak to stand up for your beliefs and too afraid to diverge. Even though everything in that jump is at canon levels or below. No wonder you have a problem with the El Shadow perk. Pathetic.

>>54522438
Typically it's combined with Toggle (Young Justice) to get around that, or just fanwanking that you can turn your perks off.

There's also an alternative though - Gift of the Twilight Imperium (Mahou Sensei Negima).
Not only is it better than Empty Night in that you can use it offensively to disrupt spells and banish summons, you can also use it selectively by default.
Not to mention that DF has a lot of really cool perks in the other origins, so blowing 800cp on Empty Night or going Outsider and not getting discounts on any of the good stuff sucks.
MSN on the other hand doesn't have that much. It's basically Gift of the Twilight Imperium and one of the other capstones, the rest is unimpressive.

>>54522541
Depends on what you mean by that. Like what is the 'bullshit' part of it to you, I need something to work with if I'm going to explain anything.

>>54522541
It's all true. Kamen Rider is a terrifying place. Especially since Decade united all the timelines together. The result is that Japan gets hit by an apocalyptic event every damn year. Plagues and aliens and undead beastmen and evil robots and time travelers and vampires made of stained glass and...it never stops. Japan is a horrible place, in Kamen Rider land. No one should live there.

>>54522591
I still pick it since permanently nerfing someone works very well as a final attack. And the El of Shadow is a cool name.

>>54522541
It's kind of weird because there's a lot of supplementary material that spells out exactly how strong, fast, and tough Riders are using exact numbers, but it's a basic cable series on a basic cable budget, so unless they go out of there way to show the characters destroying things that are strong or resilient, it's largely informed from outside material

This isn't including a few exceptions here and there, like Kuuga, who explicitly is mentioned in series as decimating entire sections of the city whenever he has to use one of his stronger finishing moves.

>>54522591
There's nothing wrong with the perk itself, don't worry about it. I think it's a cool premise, but I can't find a use for it that I'm okay with.

Again, that's not your fault.

>>54522593
...Guy in Philosophy Class?

>>54522487
>I get what you're going for, but the idea of practicing eugenics on people I think are evil bothers me.
Not him, but i'd personally be more bothered at the thought of the people that you're willing to use that power on procreating.

I mean, you're already spiritually maiming them anyway, but castration - literally or figuratively - is too much?

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>>54522441
>I assume so. It just says you get the Spear of Longinus, and can choose to combine it with a weapon. It only makes sense that the version you get has the stat block of the Spear in the book.

You get the stat block of the Spear in the book, yes.

>>54522541

It's weird, because the main limitations on some of the stuff we're told or would logically be charted out that the Riders could do isn't used either because of budget or plot reasons

Like there's no reason except budget or plot/time constraints things like Chronicle are so limited(the mook riders being the mookiest in a while)

You have to understand that most of what you're hearing is the exceptions, the extremes if you will. W and OOO for example are superhumans while transformed but their extremes aren't that impressive(though OOO' Gatakiriba is pretty neat due to it being basically a stamina-limited unlimited clones. They don't even necessarily need to stay in the green combo form, since the movies have had all the combos working together due to clones also transforming)

So mostly it tends to be spiderman-tier with some exceptions being fuckers like Kabuto and Kuuga

and now Ex-aid has Chronos' timestop and Muteki's...apparently invincibility and the ability to ignore said timestop.

So the wank is minimal I'd imagine? Jsut comes out of inconsistent power for story purposes. Then agian I could say the same for fate and whatnot

>>54522672
>castration - literally or figuratively - is too much?
Ye.

Sins of the fathers, and all that. I'm uncomfortable saying "because this person was bad, their lineage should be erased."

>>54522541
Depends on what you're looking at.

Cause some info on all the Riders aren't even mentioned in show.

Like in Faiz, humans can use any of the belts. Its just that theres a DNA lock to kill them so they can't be used by non-Orphnochs. Disable that and they can be used.

Decade apparently had these Tesla Bands around his wrists, I believe, that would allow him to pretty much fly.

Mashin Chaser's, right hand(?), allows him to melt steel.

The Heat Memory from W can go up to I think 1000 Degrees (Fahrenheit?)

Though I could be remembering wrong, but there are definitely things not mentioned about the Rider Suits in the show and is only referenced in the side material and on their Toei pages.

>>54522702
You're personifying things that don't exist yet. Hell by your logic, masturbation is murder.

>>54522702
>Sins of the fathers, and all that. I'm uncomfortable saying "because this person was bad, their lineage should be erased."
How is that different from just killing them? Either way you get rid of their genetic legacy.

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So what would one need to be able to kill Omega in Anima? Any perk recommendations?

>>54522692
You really are jealous of Val aren't you?

>>54522736
Huh. That's Omega? For some reason, I imagined a lot more gold.

>>54521243
>protagonist test
It is a quick way of seeing how influential you can be in the setting (protagonist usually have skills intended to make a difference in the world)

And is also a good way to tell you how screwed you may be power level wise. Because protagonists aren't the most powerful things in the setting normally, and encounter things that can challenge them.

>>54522741
You really are jealous of Digger aren't you?

>>54522736
Anti-bishie perks

>>54522741
Kek, you're totes jealous of everyone here.

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>>54521081
I mean, probably human, because I spend a lot of time blending in with settings, and most settings are composed mostly of humans. But you're probably looking for something more interesting than that.

Due to taking a couple select perks that altered my form without becoming altforms, my default body is actually a catperson. I look like freaking Jubei from BlazBlue.
I also tend to spend a lot of time in small, cute forms, like Mimigas or Temmies or housecats, all of which I have altforms for, or being excessively SUE-ish like with multicoloured eyes and pastel rainbow hair or whatever, but that's generally just when I'm by myself and either loafing around or working in the lab or something. Sometimes I go kitsune just for the tails, because having nine prehensile tails is really great for doing work with, and also they make a pretty decent bed to loaf on.
I will also use altforms as disguises or to fulfill roles for some kind of sidestory I'm doing in whatever hairbrained plan I've got going on that week, because it's often easier than coming up with a whole new identity all on my own.

But I mostly just look human and normal and boring by the standards of the setting I'm in.

>>54522718

This man is correct, there's lots of shit that isn't evident in the show.

Like, they actually have a straight up explanation on how the Decadriver works and it's complete fucking nonsense

>>54522786
Tell me more about the Decadriver's hidden mechanisms.

>>54506479
Akira
Age 80
Starting location: Neo-Gotham(?)
Background: Scientist (Free)

Perks:
Hacker (Free)
Chemist (100)
Engineer (200)
Mad Scientist (Geneticist) (300)
Psionics (Telekinesis) (200)

Items:
Lab Coat (Free)
Motorcycle (50)
Hyperion-Class Satellite (600)
Personal computer (Free)
Money (50)

Drawbacks:
Indebted (+100)
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>>54522736
Use dimensional nonsense to find a larger, angrier Omega and sic him on the first Omega.

>>54522763
Well, for the reasons I've listed in the conversation with the shitposter/before it was hijacked by the shitposter, I disagree. As I've also listed, in genres other than shounen there are frequently characters either benevolent or neutral to the protagonist who are also several orders of magnitude more powerful than them.

>>54522786
Will the Archie Sonic jump have an OC companion with all the modifiers named Steel the Donut?

>>54522786
That's what happens when every season has its own writer and villains that threaten the world while at the same time having a cross over movie every summer.

>>54522786
The worst part is the fact that some of Toei's older pages are no longer there. So I think the only info available is from W and onward.

Not too sure about Decade and I'm already having trouble finding Drives Page in that mess I can't understand.

>>54522673
Awesome. Now I just have to debate on whether I can actually beat Omega in his Lord of Infinity form. I probably can't. All the places I'd really want to have a defense-penetrating power-weakening super-blade are places I'd need to go to in order to get enough power to defeat Omega. Bit of a Catch-22, there. Well, maybe it's possible, if I get a bunch of training accelerators and grind for insane gains in Anima itself. Do we have any jumps with training accelerators that aren't themselves high-powered?

>>54522736
Well, lots of power, to begin with. He is very durable even before you take into account his other powers. Then you're going to want some way to change up your attacks with a lot of variety and creativity, since he can't be harmed by the same attack twice. At the same time, you can't just hit him with one super nuke and be done with it, because it's impossible to take out more than 200 of his 490 HP in one turn. He regenerates, too, but not too fast, so if you can keep the damage up it should be fine. Anti-regeneration perks wouldn't be a bad idea, though. Oh, and he can only be hurt by things capable of harming spirits, just on top of that. You're also going to want to blind him, as he can instantly strike at anything he can see by warping space and his attacks can't be blocked in any way. So keeping him from ever seeing you is a good idea.

>>54522736
In the same vein as >>54522802... just use the Skull of Corruption from Morroblivion to create a bunch of clones of him (including skills and equipment), which will all attack him.

>>54522797

Gonna find the image but here's a translated thing from the suit profile on tv-asahi(the studio/network it runs on I think)

Actually, let me just paste this stupid suit's specs

hold onto your panties cause it might take a few posts.

Punching power : 4t
Kicking power : 8t
Jump : 25m
Running speed : 100/6s
Finisher Strength - Dimension Kick: 30t

Divine Vision
1500000 optic cells, Can detect movement up to 40km away. Has night vision and can convert infrared light into visible light to see in dark places. Can also see rifts in parallel dimensions.

Boom Voice
-Can turn Decade's shouts into high-frequency blasts that can crush solid rock that's 10m thick.

Divine Muscle
-Protects the torso(and thus the heart, lungs, and abdomen) from shock, acting as a shock absorber that weakens all impacts. Thanks to this, all outside forces that can deal critical damage to Decade himself are ignored.

Divine Suit
-Can withstand absolute zero temperatures such as the vacuum of space and temperatures of 6000 degrees celsius or higher such as magma. Protects Decade from various forms of electromagnetic radiation(X rays, gamma rays, electron discharges, proton discharges, UV rays, etc.). Made out of a contractable/expandable material that allows for free movement. Covers entire body.

Body Groove
-An exoskeleton that uses the Divine Suit as its frame. Attached to Decade's chest, arms, and legs and protects Decade from all impacts. Also effective for/against physical blows. Material used is Divine Ore.

Foot Stomper
-Wraps feet in a mysterious mineral known as Divine Ore to increase kicking power.

Bit Knuckle
-Wraps the fingers in a mysterious mineral known as Divine Ore to increase punching power and the strength of other hand techniques.

Tesla Bands
-Unleashes microwaves. Using the resonance of those bands enhances abilities.

-> continued next post

>>54522736
>Jumper doesn't have enough attacks to beat Omega
>But jumper does have a ton of regen and adaptive defense perks
>They end up locked in stalemate, with neither being able to harm the other

>>54522876
Hey, it's been a while since we've seen someone apply the No Limits Fallacy to the Skull of Corruption to defeat a powerful enemy. Make me feel all nostalgic.

>>54522902
Fallacy fallacy.

>>54522837
>Anti-regeneration perks wouldn't be a bad idea, though.
Wouldn't he gain immunity to those after the first attack, though? And the stuff capable of harming spirits?

>>54522895
I like how "Can also see rifts in parallel dimensions" is tacked on like an afterthought.

>>54522837
Narnia has a clock that can speed up the Warehouse but it's tied to how many jumps you've jumped. Killer Instinct has a mental training thing that goes 100 times faster but I don't remember if it actually gives you physical gains. Uh. There's also DBZ and DBAF, but...

Anyway, Worm also has a very good learning booster, as does Batman the Animated Series. Probably more but none are coming to mind right now.

I could never take El of Shadow because I'm utterly terrified of what might happen if I get hit by it from a doppelganger with all my powers due to a drawback.

>>54522837
>200 of his 490 HP
This is all good ideas you have for me, but you mean to tell me he only has 490 HP total? That sounds pretty low for a super whatever god. Thanks for the help.

>>54522895
>>54522797

Divine Armor
-Can withstand an impact of 50t of physical force without a single scratch, and is also lightweight. Made of a mysterious mineral known as Divine Ore.

Dimension Scout
-Can hear and distinguish ultra-low frequency sound waves such as normally undetectable 14Hz frequencies. Can detect sound with in a 10km radius.

Signal Pointer
-Can use the energy read from cards scanned by the Decadriver and give it to other Riders in a special signal, changing them into things that can't possibly exist.

Ride Plate
-The plates on Decade's helmet. With these plates, Decade can freely travel across dimensions.

Decadriver specs.
-Dimensional Conversion Release Mechanism. Can release energy sealed in 2d Rider cards into 3d space. Inside the Decadriver is a zeolite/stone called "Trickster Stone" that handles creation.

Sixth Element
-Marks embedded in the Decadriver. From left to right, the marks represent the elements of Earth, Water, Fire, Wind, Light, and Darkness. These elements are also the source/origin of the Decadriver.

The Ride Booker's power source and storage space is a 4-dimensional pocket made out of a Klein bottle. Thus it can store an infinite number of cards. The Ride Booker reacts to the user's will and selects the desired cards automatically.

Booker Muzzle
Used in gun mode. It's connected to the Klein bottle, giving it infinite energy. Semi-automatic. Fires 50 caliber energy rounds, range is 300m. Rounds can pierce level IV body armor made out ceramic plating and carbon fiber.

-> Continued

>>54522948
>>54522797
Ride Marker
Marks the enemy in gun mode, allowing the energy rounds to target and home in. Regardless of how the enemy escapes, the rounds will chase the enemy and catch him.

Booker Sword
Used in Sword Mode. Made of Divine Ore, making the sword extremely hard and sharp. Can cut through 10cm of solid steel without any damage to the sword whatsoever. When not in use, it collapses and folds into the Ride Booker.

Ride Card Holder
Since it reacts to Decade's will, Decade can select the cards at random. Connected to a Klein bottle, which is said to have no boundaries, making it a limitless card holder.

>>54522919

That's rider specs for you. It's why I'm leery of saying the cereal box stats on certain riders is accurate because it's amazing how much they just kinda leave to the nerd spec notes

>>54522948
>DECADE USES KLEIN BOTTLES
Neat.

>>54522902
>No Limits Fallacy
How the fuck does that even apply when you're given things that are modified from canon, and described by a being above most settings, to do what they say they can? This isn't versus debates. Things don't need to have arbitrary limits that aren't even implied.

>>54522736
Quickened Spell - Feeblemind, followed by Quickened Spell - Ray of Stupidity. Boom. Instant vegetable.

Or possibly an Epic Spell that does both in one shot at longer range.

>>54522910
He'd become immune to the individual attacks, not the fact that you're able to make attacks capable of doing those things. Like, if you can hurt spirits, then you can do a spirit-hurting sword slash, a spirit-hurting energy attack, etc.

>>54522932
Yeah, he's mostly dependent on his abilities for defending himself, his actual HP is exceeded by many other creatures in Anima's bestiary.

>>54522926
Easy solution: Don't take those drawbacks.
You shouldn't take those drawbacks anyway, since by definition fighting a perfect copy of yourself has a 50% chance of ending your chain, and taking that kind of gamble for a few measly extra CP that won't matter much in the long run is stupid.

>>54522926
Just take that perk in Sakura Card Traptor that makes you immune to your powers.

>>54522801
You... do know that this isn't actually an Akira jum, right?
...or you could just be trolling.
Please let it be the second one

>>54522988
So... how does that work with something like telekinesis? Where I can make a telekinetic spear, tear someone's limbs off, crush their windpipe, etc. Or pyrokinesis, where I can send a fireball, a gout of flame, pillars, pure heat, etc.?

>>54522984
Because it's a copy of a canon artifact. Maybe it's been altered to be superior to the canon artifact, but no mention of that is made in the description. And assuming that something is more powerful than as described just because it's not explicitly stated to not be more powerful is exactly what the No Limits Fallacy is.

>>54522801
KANEDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

>>54522823
Oh for sure, I'm not saying it's bad
I'm just saying that thinking this is limited to kamen rider is ignoring that comics have this exact same issue

It's just a lot more evident with Kamen Rider because there isn't a giant expended universe of them save for crossovers, and those BETTER be fuckin noncanon or else >>54522621 is completely accurate.

>>54522834
They probably exist SOMEWHERE, even if it's just a copypaste of a translation of dubious quality.

>>54523032
>Neo-Gotham

I'm pretty sure he's just doing a themed build anon. C'mon, a genetically modified psychic abomination totally fits in Batman's rogues gallery. Well, the Justice League's, at least.

>>54523047
Well, in the game it just requires you to use a different technique or spell or whatever. You can still use Light Magic, you just have to cast Seeking Sphere instead of Light Beam, or whatever. So I'd say that removed from that mechanical context it would probably just require you to be creative and use things that an observer would be able to see as not just spamming the same attack.

>>54522994
Not really. They're pretty easy if you know what you're doing or building in a particular way. In most of those drawbacks, the 'answer' is to use something that they don't have access to but you do, or which you didn't have access to when you started the jump.

>>54523105
Mmmh, fair enough.

>>54523122
>Jumper uses the exact same attack, but calls out a different name

>>54522985
He's an Anima Martial, chances are, he can just punch your spell out of the air.

>>54523122
So a stab and then a slash would work?

>>54523133

Actually another answer to this kind of thing is to use companions and force multipliers like the power of love, friendship, or outnumbering someone 8 to 1(or more). unless the drawback explicitly copies your companions to fight or you have no major way of having companions that can at least as a group take you out or even under your leadership/empowerment still are so insignificant as to not be enough to swing it in your favor. Or you have a perk that makes you get stronger when you're outnumbered.

>>54523133
Except usually they're not "perfect copies of you". They're usually some manner of "they'll always be a threat to you" or "they can match/counter anything you have". So that usually doesn't work. And it just becomes an exercise in annoying the writer when they don't even have the established limits that jumper does, but you just have to keep saying "and then they make that attack worthless" ad nauseaum until one of them dies.

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>>54523158
The Feeblemind spell doesn't have a physical component to punch at all, and if he touches the Ray he's affected.

As an aside, do save-or-die spells work on him? If so, D&D has this covered anyway.

>>54523122
Sounds like something that lets you create new techniques on the fly would be really helpful.

>>54523158
He can in fact do exactly that. He's got Presence Extrusion.

>This ability allows a character to create an invisible aura of Ki around himself. In this way, he can physically touch pure energy and intangible elements – such as fire, spectral beings, or even magic. In physical combat, a character using Presence Extrusion may injure beings normally only vulnerable to supernatural attacks, up to a value of twice his Presence. In other words, someone with a Presence of 50 could potentially damage a creature as if he used a mystical weapon of Presence value 100. This ability also allows characters to repel supernatural effects with the Block Ability or even slash a fireball in half.

>>54523180
Yes, but then you couldn't stab or slash him ever again. Unless you did some sort of mystically charged stab or slash. And then he'd be immune to whatever technique you used to empower your attack. So you'd have to use a new one, and so on, and so forth. The best way to fight him is to have a lot of skills in your arsenal.

>>54523217
Indeed.

>>54523216
>The Feeblemind spell doesn't have a physical component to punch at all, and if he touches the Ray he's affected.

This is true for quite a few Anima spells as well. He can punch them anyway.

>>54523158
Yeah, magic in combat is basically useless in anima.

>>54523133
If you have stuff they don't have they're not a perfect copy by definition.

And even against imperfect copies i'd still be very careful.
You only need to pick up one defense-bypassing instant-kill attack to get fucked over by a doppelganger drawback, and most jumpers pick up way, way more than that.
Not to mention that they'll also have all your defenses, so chances are most of your powers won't even work unless you deliberately left holes in your protections.
Which most jumpers also don't do because it's stupid.

>>54523204 can work, but i'd say not against late-chain jumpers.
I know i've certainly spend quite a lot of jumps picking up combos to make me as much of a pain in the ass to kill as possible, so i certainly wouldn't want to fight somebody with my powers.

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Why haven't you given in to despair yet, /jc/? It'd be so much easier.

What kind of LV 3-5 Gashat should I give to Kamen Rider Diend to compliment his Proto Treasure Sniper Gashat that allows him to store the levels he drains from enemies as Treasure that he can then use to instantly buy and activate power-ups or enhance his Finishing Moves? He also has the Gashacon Zapper, so I was thinking something that would create especially tough and distracting Minions.

>>54523204
If I take the kill your host option as a Bugster and I’m A Legend Rider! drawback with my host having been an OC Persona from a previous Kamen Rider jump would that count as a death for the purposes of Visions of Drowning?

>>54523217
Thanks, Valeria. :^)

>>54523320
Haven't I? Why do you think I haven't made a jump in months then?

>>54523320
Because it's too difficult.

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>>54523320
BECAUSE I MUST GO TO THE BUTLER CAFE.

>>54523263
Bullshit.
It just allows martials to roll block against magic attack.
So it gives them a chance to defend, which is what we call balance, not "making magic useless".

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>>54523331

...No? That feels like a "Press start to fucking die" option, and not really the intent, unless I'm misreading what "OC Persona" means in this case? You mean your "background character" from the Previous jump, right?

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>>54523320
Because my Dragon nags me to do lots of things and I do not have enough time to despair.

>>54523241
Does that also work against psionics? I like Decerebrate there as my go-to way to turn my enemies into braindead husks.

>>54523352
I'm not talking about this one thing? Martials are much, much faster in Anima, and magical attacks have a charge time. So defensively and offensively, martials have all the advantages in combat.

>>54523320
>falling to despair when you are the maryes sue in the whole wide multiverse
I have so many plot armor and luck perks that anything besides deliberate suicide will go well for me anyway.

>>54523380
So you have a dragon mom.

>>54523415
Everyone needs a dragon mom in their life.

>>54523361
No I mean I was one of the people who helped research the Bugster virus and almost pulled a Dan, Creating a Bugster with all my memories but killing my original body in the process. i.e. a fully destructive mental upload.

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>>54523415
Not that anon but... Funnily enough yeah! Maleficent from Once Upon a Time actually is my mom and a dragon.

>>54523437
Agreed.

>>54523437
There are no jumps that give you one, though.

>>54523390
I think that psionics count as supernatural powers for purposes of that, but don't quote me on it. So it might work, Omega's got a pretty high Psionic Resistance score, though, so even if he can't just block it he can probably fight it off.

>>54523454
Let me show you the way! >>54523453

What's a perk that gives you infinite stamina, besides the one from Overlord?

>>54523473
I have a hard time seeing Maleficent as a mom desu

>>54523361
>>54523438
Sorry I misread you, Yes that's pretty much what I mean, the OC persona in question is Myself from a previous KR jump.

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>>54523437
>>54523453
>>54523454

>Everyone needs a dragon mom in their life.

Not turning a dragon into a Mom

>>54523438

Oooh, I see.

It wouldn't count as a death for the purposes of Visions of Drowning but it'd be probably kind of traumatic to remember dying regardless.