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First for keeping it in the family.

>>54432652
Your horse is not your family Morathi.

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third for healthy relationships

>>54432710
10/10 would lick the ash off her feet.

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>>54432652
Am I the only one both happy and disappointed with Morathi in T:WW?

On one hand, she is legitimately beautiful, and I'm glad that they didn't fuck that up like they did with Bretonnian women. On the other hand, it looks more like a human beauty than an elven beauty, and you can't really say that she's the most beautiful character - you could legitimately make an argument that Isabella is more beautiful. You could also make an argument the Fay Enchantress is too, but I wouldn't believe you.

It's like getting told that you're gonna get the best ice cream sundae ever, but it's just an acceptably good one.

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>>54432628
Sigvald got ambushed like a bitch, but this may be a bit more tricky

Unfortunately for old Spikey, Karl, Gelt and Volkmar are all on their way

>>54432760
I think it's just a limitation of the engine. Also they give Isabelle massive veined tits which always helps.

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>>54432805
But I like small breasts, and Morathi has a nice trim stomach. Then again, so did Hellebron when she was young...

It probably is a limitation of the engine, true, but I think people have complained - especially with the Wood Elves - that the elves don't really look that different from humans. Which is odd, since they can make dwarves look different from short humans.

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>>54432760
I've seen so many incartantion of Morathi that I don't care anymore at this point.
I just hold dear the first one I saw, and just join any other as artist take on the character.

>>54432805
I didn't like the juxtaposition between Vlad and Isabella, daddy von Carstein looked out of place next to momma. He's meant to be suave and handsome

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How much money would it take for you to crusade on Ulthuan? Do you think the game is going to make that even viable?

>>54432982
The models are supposed to represent their war face when they drop the glamour and look like angry corpses.

Isabella isn't as old so she should look better. That being said, she should be as corpsey as Mannfred.

>>54433024
A better question is how long will it take to send Eltharion to the Old World to destroy the greenskins and rekindle the old alliance with the Dwarfs.

>>54432982
It's pretty obvious that CA is only looking at the most recent models of characters and factions. I guess it makes sense, since you can't expect them to sort through decades of art and models just because some people might not like the latest looks, but it still feels lazy to me, especially when they're willing to look to lore that's very old in order to include dwarves in Lustria and such.

>>54432710
>It's not a PHASE, mom! This is who I AM now!

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>>54433102
>mfw Grombrindal gets a new starting position, and a new Campaign victory condition
>Mission: avenge the ultimate Grudge, slay the first Oathbreaker

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>>54433156
>mfw

But who is the first Oathbreaker? Most of the High Elves involved in the War of the Beard are now dead, so I guess it might be Malekith? But they wouldn't know that he was involved.

>>54433194
Grombrindal would
He's the One Malekith swore the oath to
The fact that this was ignored by GW in ET is one of the many reasons I somewhat dislike it

Finally get Krell, and he is just a shitty combat summon.

Why, CA? Why?

>>54433194
Everyone knows it was Malekith after he attacked Ulthuan. Snorri is damned to walk without rest specifically because of Malekith breaking the Oath.

Dwarfs just blame all Elves for their diminished power leading into the Time Of Woe. The actual Grudge for the war was settled with the killing of Caledor II, and any minor Grudges from conduct during the war are settled by individuals.

>>54433216
In ET Malekith apologizes to him actually.
The lore rape is him accepting it because Gav and Ward took turns sucking Mally off like Morathi used to.

>Dark Elves wank
>Vampire wank
>Chaos wank
Which is the worst?

>>54433223
Because even if he dies Krell can resummon him, making Krell effectively unkillable.

>>54433317
There's dark elves wank?

Chaos is the worst.

>>54433156
>Look at your dick
>Now back to your mission
>Now at your dick
>Now back to the mission
>Your dick is now DIAMONDS
>Anything is possible when you're not a filthy oathbreaker.

>>54433329
The ET abomination had far too much Malekith for my tastes. Actually just about everything they did with the elves was horseshit.

>>54433317
Chaos.

Chaos wank works by telling every player, including Chaos players, "You fucking suck, your dudes suck, I'mma flip the table, now run home and cry to mommy little kek."

Dark Elf wank only offends High and Wood Elf players, Vampire wank is just against Empire.

>>54433317
I haven't seen much of any Dark Elves wank, aside from the excitement over T:WW2. That's actually half the reason I like them, because even though they're kind of edgy they're not really shoved in your face unless you're a High Elf player.

Chaos wank is probably the worst, because at the end of the day no matter how good or bad a chaos fan is, they can fall back on the argument that they'll always win in the end. Even the vampire counts can't technically do that, and the Black Coaches technically make them immortal as long as they have servants to revive them.

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>>54433409
I forgot to mention, one bad thing about vampire wank is lahmians 'we control everyone's society and have spies everywhere.' I hate that sort of stuff. But that's probably half exaggeration, and even if they do have agents everywhere, most vampires are stuck in Sylvania or in backwoods areas of the world.

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>>54433409
Shit, most of the Vampire wank is just giving them an "infinity plus one" against Chaos.
Even Daemons aren't free from the anger of a Chaos God. All a Chaos God can do to a Vampire is kill them and leave their soul alone in the void. Not quite as bad as being consumed or tortured eternally by being cuckolded your desire.

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Out of curiosity, how weird is it that Kerillian actually seems to like Sienna, Kruber and Bardin?
I was under the impression that Wood Elves were mostly assholes.

>>54433434
Lahmians "control" everything, but that's almost entirely just economics. Even what we see in novels is just them owning trade routes and controlling merchants. They don't actually run politics, at least any more than any other lobbyist.

Skaven wank is worse. Their assassins can apparently reach anyone, spies hear anything, and saying the wrong thing or knowing too much is instant death, no saves allowed.

>>54433484
They're Chaotic Neutral, in both that way that can be nice and that way that can be dickish.

But in Kerillian's case, I think that she's the type of Wood Elf that prefers to travel and be around other races, rather than most of her kin which prefer isolation.

>>54433502
>Their assassins can apparently reach anyone, spies hear anything, and saying the wrong thing or knowing too much is instant death, no saves allowed.
This could work if half of the spies were dedicated to killing to other half, who themselves are also going to kill the first half if they get the chance too
because Skaven

>>54433484
Elves in general are massive cunts who act according to societal role until they learn not to like a children's cartoon character.

Teclis is only not an asshole because he spent his life a cripple loved only by his fratboy brother. Eltharion acts like a bit of a dick to other Elves, but the same amount of dickery towards other races which is less than average because he's seen that everything is out to get you in the world, and others abandon you in your time of need. The pottery of him saving long-besieged Dwarf Holds abandoned by their own kin is intentional there.

In one of the BL books almost every Elf character thinks about how much their politics and attitudes suck, and the moment two brothers that tried to kill each other drop the facade they end up laughing and being friends again.

Even in End Times of all things, the world was almost saved because Malekith bowed to a fucking Orc of all things to accomplish a mutual goal.

Same with Kerillian. She lived like a human and fought alongside a Dwarf for several months. She learned to not be a dick.

>GW doesn't have a mini made of the Vermintide characters and sell them with Silver Tower statsheets

Why do they hate money so much?

>>54433659
Might want to delete that promotion, anon.

And probably because GW doesn't somehow understand that videogames aren't something to be in competition with. They only started making a lot of WFB games after the setting was dead and they considered the licence 'free.'

>>54429592
Chaos winning was the best thing that could've happened to Warhammer. All the new fluff was stupid shit like turning elves into eldars and making Tomb Kings neutral instead of evil. All the models were ugly as hell also, ugly pieces of shit like demigryphs and phoenixes. Not to mention the rules, holy shit were the 8th edition rules terrible. Now GW can't ruin the fluff anymore by advancing it like they did with 40k. We have a clear stopping point after SoC, after which all new fluff can be considered new-canon and ignored. All the shitty new models are in the new game, instead of tainting the real Warhammer. And we are free to go back to previous editions for rules or editing the 8th edition to make it playable.

>>54433321
1 summon per battle
>>54433223
krell gets his buff tree with norsca release.

>>54433409
I am wanking it to morathi right now.

Where can I find recasters for Warhammer Fantasy?

>>54433734
Nice try GW

>>54433695
Shit, forgot that one was lewd.

>>54433734
TMS Miniatures.

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>>54433774
It's okay man, I've got your back. Friends to the End Times, standing against the darkness rising to cover the world, all that jazz.

I'm not going to lie, but something always feels powerful about the invasion of Chaos in Total Warhammer. I really do feel like I'm part of a fragile bastion against the destruction of the world, I can see all my allies struggling and dwarves finally asking if I'm ready to fight alongside them.

>Now what have I done?!
Kruber's adorable sometimes

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>>54433759
don't know what you are talking about Sir

>>54433699
You are an idiot.

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>>54432760
>that pic

>>54433884
I love uniting the Orcs, crushing Chaos then wiping it out to the last up north until there's nothing left before coming home to see the Empire finally beating back the Vampires.

>>54433484

I wouldn't say she likes Bardin, she tolerates him. She probably only really likes the Wizard since they're both outcasts. The others are tolerated because of the common enemy.

>>54433317

None really, X wank is grade A LARPing and rustling jimmies just adds to the pleasure.

>>54432699
You don't know that.

>>54432919
I had the model based on that image (or vice versa), I'm pretty sure she's just meant to be a generic sorceress

>>54433659

Playing Vermintide inspired games is the only thing AoS skirmish is good for.

>>54433121
It's perfectly reasonable. The most recent models are the "current" version of the characters, no matter if they haven't been revisited in 20 years.

It may even be a directive from GW.

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I sort of hate, how all of our Warhammer Fantasy "Old World" topics now just float around Warhammer Total War...it's like it's the last thing we can hang onto...

>>54434212
Just wait. The RPG will breathe a little more life into it, you'll see!

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>>54434281
Umm...elaborate.. what RPG?? a 4th edition RPG?

>>54434317
Yep, we're getting a new edition of whfrp

>>54434212

Well normally it isn't but they've been showing all this new shit off so people are hyped. I don't even play them.

>>54434334
Oh man, that's awesome! I really hope it's not as bad as 3rd was...I hope it's actually a real RPG, like 2nd.

I've been looking for an online/skype game of 2nd edition for a while. but maybe I"ll wait until 4th comes out then..

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>Gimme your wallet man-thing

How do you react?

>>54434376
Its looking good so far. Od design philosophy, and its not AoS.

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>>54434392

Bygone furry Imperial.

>>54434392
Roll to seduce.

Meet Skial and Maximilian Kater, a young boy student of the Imperial Lands who'll have a uncommon bound with a female Skaven lady named Skial, a gutter runner of the Clan Sniek.
https://e621.net/post/show/1192938/absurd_res-anthro-belt-blonde_hair-boots-cape-claw

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>>54434462
Forgot pic.

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>>54434462
>female Skaven
>gutter runner

>>54434476
Damn, either she's halfway transformed into a Rat Ogre or he's a shota.

>>54434093
She was released as a generic sorceress for some reason, but that's definitely Morathi's artwork.

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>>54434519
GREATGREAT HORNED RAT WORKS IN MISCHIEVOUS WAYS.

Rolling on floor laughing

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>>54434430
excellent... any source/images/previews around?

>>54434549
Not that I've seen. But I don't keep up to date with GW anymore, I just wait for emails announcing MTO.

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>>54434462

>>54434476
>>54434538
That's more of a Nezumi than a Skaven.

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If you could add one thing to TWW that is NOT an entirely new army, what would it be? If a Lord, would they have their own faction or share one?

Pic related for me. New faction in Karak Norn.

>>54434116
You'd think they'd be a little imaginative with the designs though, trying to go for what looks best.

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>>54434476
Face is enough rat, but body is too human. It's not like you have to go full rat - you can kind of pass them off as like dwarves but with weird legs.

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>>54434666

Personally I prefer to just put my hatchet through their heads.

>>54434613
I'd add legendary heroes to go alongside legendary lords. Not faction leaders, but guys like Gotrek and Felix and Kurt Helborg/Ludwig Shwartzhelm you can use to buff out your forces.

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>>54433317

>>54434613
That High Elf Prince that invaded Naggaroth (successfully), fought Grom the Paunch of Misty Mountain when the latter invaded Ulthaun, and later was blinded by poison during a dark elf invasion and so became the greatest sword master of them all.
Forget his name but he was cool.
Lets you release Grom as a double-pack too.

>>54433774
What was it?

>>54434809
Eltharion

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Does anyone else think that thate full fluffy clothes aesthetic of the empire is better than the horde of armoured reskins in the workshop?

>>54434376
The developers confirmed they're ignoring 3rd and basing it on 2nd.

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>>54434392
Mace to the head.

>>54434826
WAR opening cinematic parody.
The Warrior the female Shadow Warrior shoots was female with huge boobs instead of male.
She then immediately feels bad about her own bust size while the femWarrior sneaks up to Slaanesh her.

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Everyone saw that ALL GW vidya are on sale on Steam right now, right?

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>>54434849
Generally, yeah. They're supposed to look bright and colorful, and the fact that there's an occasional breastplate and helmet is good enough for me - and helps keep it from being overly colorful. Giving them a bunch of armor takes away from that Landsknecht aspect, and actually makes them look a lot more boring unless you're really into armor.

Part of why I dislike what they did with the Bretonnian Men-at-Arms is that they made them all really colorful, with almost absolutely no variation - no bits of armor to break up the constant red and blue, they all wore helmets of two types...it's a far cry from their models, which had most of their color in their shields and on bits of helmets, flags, and other things, with their clothing being mostly drab and showing a lot of leather and metal. Really makes me wish I had any skill as a modder so I could make them look that drab.

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Female Orcs canon.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/?appids=236690

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>>54434837
Yeah, that guy. He was a cool guy.

I would also accept Lil' Skittles.

>>54434613
This isn't technically a unit or anything, but I'd like it if players could take a unit and make them into their own RoR.

Sure, you can rename units, but they aren't treated as if they're special. Imagine if you got them to a silver or gold rank, maybe gave them a certain banner, and you could set them up as a unique unit that you could rehire if it was destroyed. Say, if I get a unit of Questing Knights and level them up enough, and give them the Ranger's Standard, I could turn them into an RoR with that banner's unique effect, with a unique name like 'Glade Riders' or something.

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>>54434876
You had me at 'ignoring 3rd'. Release dates? Any info at all?

Alright /wfb/urgers, I come to you for advice.

I just had my first game of WFRP with our new group, and I need some ideas or inspirations on what I should do.

We're playing an all-dwarf party, on a quest to find Karak Zorn and reclaim it in the name of High King Thorgrim. The backstory was that we set off with an armoured and well funded caravan, aiming to take the Underway for as far as we can before going topside wherever the Underway proved impassable.

In the back story we went from Karaz-a-Karak to Barak-Varr, then cruised down the Blood River before diverting for Karak Eight Peaks to hook up with Belegar and deliver some supplies before taking the re-opened Underway between their and Karak Azul, dropping off a few mercenaries who were keen to try and rescue King Kazador's kidnapped family.

Shit went sideways somewhere near Karak Azgal and we got caught in an underground skirmish between the Skaven and a few tribes of Goblins. A variety of surprisingly combustible poisoned gases and a big ol' spark left most of the caravan buried under rubble and dying from a variety of wounds.

This is where the game kicked in proper. We were on the rightside of the cave-in and managed to mostly get clear. With no clear way back, we've decided to press-on. The first session was mostly character-interaction heavy, getting to know who everyone else is playing and the few NPCs we've still got, as well as a few combat encounters as we went through an organized retreat from pursuing Skaven outliers.

So this is where we left off.

Of the group we have:
>Skaldor Grondsnev, Physicians Student
>Thrund Thrundsson, Soldier
>Grimli Durazklad, Artisan's Apprentice
>And me, Alrik Valmafind, Student
>And three other NPCs that survived - a Thane, a Mercenary, and a Lodefinder

>>54435298
But here's the kicker - the GM had arranged with me previously to play a Chaos Dwarf spy, infiltrated in on a fact-gathering mission and to ensure our western brethren don't reclaim anything that could help them raise their culture back to it's golden heights.

I'm playing a Level 2 Sorcerer whose hooves and lower legs have been turned to stone, but he seems to be hinting that I'm in the process of becoming a Bull Centaur, so I'm not entirely sure what's going on there.

I'm expecting the GM to throw in some elements from the Doomstones campaign, based on little clues he's dropped, so if that comes into play my character will be trying to subtely ensure he's the only one who makes it out with them. But other than that, I'm not sure what sort of goals or even deeper motivations my character should have. As much as I like my DORFS, I've never really explored Chaos Dwarfs much.

Help?

>>54433304
>apologizes
GROOODGE

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>>54434940
Fixed here:

https://tabletop-miniatures-solutions.com/preorders/203-koe-peasant-crusaders-x10.html

and here:

http://www.fireforge-games.com/webstore/middle-age/men-at-arms/foot-sergeants-details

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>>54435353

>>54435357

I also recommend fireforge games, they have a good counts as Bret range that in some cases look better than the GW stuff did, such as the peasants.

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New Grail Knights btw, in pic

>>54435357
Not gonna trust the preorders, but the fireforge models do look nice. Kind of remind me of older editions of Brets, even though

>crossbows

Though you do have to wonder why Bretonnians never adopted crossbows.

>>54435683
>making life easier for peasants
>giving the ungrateful wretches any kind of advantage
Zey should be thankful ve even allow them to hunt rats on our lands.

>>54434849
No, I hate the 8th ed state troop models. The clothing should be colourful by all means, certainly give them ostrich plumes and slashed clothing, but I still want them to look like a proper fighting force like the empire troopers from when I played back in the day.

Cuirass+helmet is the bare minimum any halberdier should have imo. I'd like to go further and give them the odd bit of chain. Modders often overdo it and add silly shoulderpads, but their heart's in the right place.

>>54434876
WFRP 4th ed confirmed for redundant and obsolete at best.

>>54435287
Not much beyond what I already said, except that "next year" seems to be the time frame for release.

>>54435850
buttmad AoS furry spotted

>>54435683
Consider that bretonnians spend a lot of time fighting each other, and anything that evens the playing field between peasant and knight is fundamentally un-bretonnian.

Crossbows were literally banned by the pope for being unchivalrous at one point.

>>54435870
That's right, I'm all the people you hate and have multiple contradictory opinions just to make it easier to hate me.

I am actually pretty buttmad about this though, because WFRP 3 was a very cool and innovative concept that badly, badly needed another round of revision and playtesting to cut back some of the insane bloat. But it was the first fantasy adventure RPG in a long time to look like it was doing something interesting.

>>54435898
Do the Bretonnians fight each other a lot? They've never had any civil wars, unless you count battles against Mousilion. There are some petty squabbles between lords, sure, but usually it seems like they're fighting off Orcs or Norscan raiders.

>>54435972

FFG did what they do best, they used another IP to test something they would successfully apply to a Star Wars game.

I think C7 will do a great job (hopefully) because they 1. sort the IP out and weren't given it in a package and 2. they have a background in the fantasy genre and have had success with middle-earth.

>>54435850
4th Ed could be a carbon-copy of 2nd Ed and it will still be the best thing to happen to WFRP if they just start printing more splats.

Fuck it, I would not complain at all if they just said 'Hey, use 2nd Ed, we're just making expansion books full of fluff and a little crunch'.

>>54436104

They may go down this route, on the other hand C7 has a house style that they may follow (it's been well received if that's any concern).

>>54436104
I'm not sure if it's legally possible, but I wouldn't mind it. It'd mean that they wouldn't have to feel pressure to change or surpass what 2e already set up, and what many fans already like - just add onto things, perhaps tweak some of the stranger parts take out ]Bretonnian squires or explain them properly please, I've got my own headcanon but it's not enough and then they can build on their own ideas. We don't need the Old World all over again, we've already got that in various forms - we really need the flavors of Elves, Ogres, even Orcs.

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What say you guys, If 4th edition is indeed worthy, and when it comes out, do you want to perhaps get a Skype game going? We could playtest it of sorts

>>54436337

I have never played an RPG but I would be up for starting with 4E.

>>54435972
Sounds like you'd probably be better off playing a board game.

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>>54436394
Cool, Anyone else want to try this experimental game? We'll probably all need separate books...I don't even know when it will be out... Will it be produced by Fantasy Flight? Or Black Library?

>>54436607
I'm down. PDF will probably be up here within minutes.

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>>54436607
https://grimandperilous.com/warhammer-fantasy-roleplay-to-be-announced-may-27th/

Cubicle 7....and it's not looking like it'll be out anytime soon.

>>54436607

4E is being produced by Cubicle 7. We only had the announcement that they were working on something a few months ago so I would expect it to be out next year.

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>>54432628
Quick /tg/, I need some Crypt Horror stats for a 2E game and there's nothing about them in the bestiary.

>>54434212
we will rise again.

>>54434212
People are happy that the Old World is in the hands of people who love, and respect the setting.

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>>54436967
>>54436767
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>>54436396

Well... because 4e seems a long ways away, Anyone interesting in starting a 2nd edition mini campaign while we wait? I'd probably prefer online chat/skype...I have .pdf's of nearly all of the 2nd edition books, which I can give out if we can get some players on board

Out of boredom and inspired by recent talk of CDorfs, this poorfag is going to try and make one from scratch using:

Dwarf Warrior Head + Arms
Tomb King Khopesh
Empire Shield
Skaven Torso
Orc upper legs
Skeleton feet

Will post results when this abomination is put together.

>>54436958
Use an ogre but faster

>>54437018
I might be interested.
What time? I'm on PST....

>>54437134
Well I'm on EST... but doesn't mean something can't be worked out...What days are you and anyone else available? I'd probably prefer weekends Friday nights, Saturdays and Sundays. Tuesday nights possibly...

>>54436958
Ogre but faster and some nurgle-ish components.

>>54437343
I dunno. I work at a pizza place where my work schedule changes weekly.
It has been HARD on a social life.

Am I getting my hopes up, noticing that the Kislev voice actor in the diplomacy screen has some Kislev-like lines, with a bad Russian accent? Or was that there already and I just didn't notice it because usually they were ded by the time I met them?

>>54436958
What other anons have said, and don't forget: those fuckers aren't actually undead, they're just very sick, twisted humans. If there are ghouls in the bestiary, make sure to look at them for any special rules that might be similar on that subject.

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>>54437545
lol.. you know times are rough, when pizza boys can't even catch a break..

>>54437642
Well, I do get paid 12.30 an hour plus tips divded up evenly among us based only on how many hours we work worked into the paycheck automatically.
Plus health care in about 90 days.
So there's upsides too.

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What would be the sides in the civil war in the Empire?

Sigmar/Ulric like in The Enemy Within?

Marienburg/Reikland/Middenheim like in the time of three Emperors?

But if wouldn't Nuln or Talabheim or anyone else stand up once shit hit the fan?

Who else?

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>>54438649
Karl Franz vs Electors Counts as in TWW.

>>54438683
>Averland
>in a bid for a crown
Would the Empresse's regalia fit on a sheep?

I would think about loose, switching coalitions or sth like that.

And Slyvania.

>>54438649

Hmm...depends on the initiating cause. If it was following something like Valten's death at the hands of Ulrican extremists, it would start as a religious sundering before being co-opted into a political expedient.

The real trick is the situation - a post Storm of Chaos would be a good time for it, since so much of the Empire is in ruins, it would be a perfect time for an ambitious Elector to try and claim more territory for themselves.

>>54438758
I don't think so. You hardly go on a land grab, when it's pesant you lack and land is in abduance (and ruins). War demands supplies. Pre-SoC is somewhat better because everyone grew overconfident and Chaos wants a civil war.

Gotta question for ya /wfg/; why should I not kill myself?

>>54438874
No idea man. I ask myself the same question everyday, and at this point I'm not doing it because that feels like I'd be letting the cancer win.

>>54438874
stream it

>>54438812
You should check out The Enemy Within from 1ed. If you don't mind re-skinning Karl Franz as a somewhat inept politician, it could give you exactly what you're looking for.

>>54438935
I know it like back of my hand.

Still, I was looking for more diverse Warmaster forces for such scenario as I'm making order from Pendraken.

>>54438917
That seems a solid reason.
I hate feeling like something else would win if I lost.
>>54438921
That's not what I asked.

>>54438874
all the time to be dead, just one occasion to stay alive bla bla bla

do it for a seat to see the happening and the waifu age

>>54439272
Either do it or dont mention it. Stop being attention whore

>>54432760
I wish her voice was a little softer, it seemed too harsh in the trailer.

>>54432628

In the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay pastebin, the 3e torrent no longer works.

>>54439302
God your punctuation is awful.
Seriously, work on your sentence structure dude. Have a little pride.
This coming from me here.
>>54439317
Nah, I actually haven't decided.
I'm kinda on the fence, you know?

>>54438874
Well, you wouldn't get to see WFRP 4e for one, or any of the TWII gameplay.

>>54439343
So is one for the other specialist games.

This is it.

The Dying of The Light.

>>54439394
Hmm...actually, that's not a bad argument come to think of it. Even the Norsca DLC seems kinda interesting since I was always playing one in the 2e WFRP, and that's still more Old World nonsense, not even new terrain stuff.

Hey, thanks anon. I honestly had no idea what to do right there. Sometimes I just need a solid suggestion before making a decision I guess, I'm kinda whishy-washy.

>>54439423
Why be wishy-washy on here?

>>54439439
I mean, why not? It's as good a place as any. I couldn't think of a reason not to.

>>54439401
>The Dying of The Light.
Don't you bring Egg and Malal into this.

>>54439423
If you're not sure if you should kill yourself or not and you've gotten to the point where you're asking /tg/ for suggestions, your life is already worth nothing.

Kill yourself, or at least try to kill yourself. Don't be surprised if you pussy out and end up with some stupid scars.

>>54434999
>Lil Skittles

Only right answer

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>>54439381
>Have a little pride.
>This coming from me here.
I don't need pride, especially here

The points I may want to underline don't actually stand at the end of my sentences, they end whenever they end
it's you who are putting too much attention on how to end a phrase that you forgot to correctly pace it in most of the occasions

fink 'bout dat

>>54439507
>If you're not sure if you should kill yourself or not and you've gotten to the point where you're asking /tg/ for suggestions, your life is already worth nothing.
Well, duh. Idiot.
>Kill yourself, or at least try to kill yourself. Don't be surprised if you pussy out and end up with some stupid scars.
Oh I had you beat to that by years.
They look crazy lame, but it's funny how many people believe me when I tell me that I have bad hives on my inner arm and wrists and scratch a lot in my sleep.

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>>54438649
Let me try and spin out a scenario:

Theodoric Gausser, the Elector Count of Nordland, is a warlike dude who tried to take territory from Hochland (this is lore). Let's say in this scenario, he dies unexpectedly, and Hochland is still smarting from his near-assault (or maybe he managed it in this scenario). Nordland is strange in that they have a number of claims to land in other provinces in the north, which is turned against them in this scenario as Hochland starts demanding some land in recompense for Nordlander aggression. Ostland joins in on this. Nothing comes of it, but it causes tensions to grow under the surface between the provinces in a way that Karl Franz can't solve easy.

A fun 'spark' in my mind would be some Marienburgers trying to rescue an impounded ship at a dock in Ostland. Their yellow, blue and red colors are mistaken for the yellow and blue of Nordland, and the rumor mill turns the story into a vicious assault by those Nordlanders. As skirmishes begin to turn into civil war, something kicks off a religious aspect to things - Ulricans in Nordland and Sigmarites in Hochland and Ostland start seeing this conflict as an extension of their own quarrels.

At the point that this is turning into a civil war the Emperor tries to step in, but at this point Middenlanders are worked up over the conflict and Ulricans are swarming to join their 'brothers of the North' and warning that any Reiklander interference will cause trouble, a warning that is emphasized by a brawl-turned-riot in Carroburg. Wissenland is far from the troubles and unconcerned, but being dutiful Sigmarites support Reikland in whatever it does. Then you can work in some other provinces if you like - maybe Marienburg throws their hat in the ring since Theodoric claimed to be the 'Duke of Marienburg' and there's an opportunity to gain more influence either way. Zealous Tabalclanders take up arms to support the Taal-worshiping population in Hochland.

>>54439561
>have bad hives on my inner arm and wrists and scratch a lot in my sleep
Hey don't joke about that, I actually DO get really bad hives there and scratch a lot in my sleep.

>>54439561
Stop talking, start killing yourself.

>>54439575
That sounds sucky. Why?

>>54439599
I dunno. Something to do with my skin being sensitive to irritants and so it overproduced histamines or whatever.

>>54439593
Maybe not waste bitching to depressed randos on the internet. Just report him or whatever.

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>>54438874
I don't know why you're asking me, but don't. Logically speaking it's the best choice: if you're dead, you can't go back to being alive. If you're alive, you can fix your life, go do something completely different that makes you happy, or if life still sucks you can die. Go with the option that provides more options and doesn't permanently close the door on others.

Just don't forget you don't get to be a necromancer if you go. And that you'll never be raised by a necromancer back into a semblance of life. And that even if a necromancer were to do that, he'd berate you for posting off-topic.

>>54439648
Options are interesting, anyway.
That makes logical sense.

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>>54439667
I understand logic may not be the most comforting when it's probably emotions that are driving you to even consider suicide, as is the weakness of all flesh. But it's good to remind you that whatever rut you're in or depression you feel, it won't last for the rest of your life - and it will never last as long as the timeless cities of Nehekhara, whose splendor still rises from the flowing sands that now surround it.

>>54439667
>>54439648
>>54439648

Counterpoint, we have no proof to suggest you can't come back from being dead. There is at least one instance of this happening according to widely held mythology.

For all we know being dead could be amazing - so much so that no-one wants to come back from being dead because it is so fun.

Kill yourself and tell us what it's like after, for science.

>>54432628
Question: Is there a date set for roughly when all the TW:W stuff will be out? I mean, obviously they're planning 3 games and something like 16 playable races - but do we know when everything will be out?

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>>54439648
>tfw ywn be a necromamcer around bro liches and witch bitches

>>54439704
Nah, since I was mostly undecided this time and everyone else's arguments were so predictable that I'm pretty sure they heard them in movies somewhere your own train of logic is actually fairly solid.
>>54439739
>There is at least one instance of this happening according to widely held mythology.
Just the one time?
Maybe he just fucked it up. Maybe it looked like dead but they were retardo and tried to bury an alive guy.

>>54439779
>Just the one time?
At least one, but if you're not going to kill yourself then you can go do the research for other instances.

>>54435298
>>54435314

Fucking Doomstones, how do they work?

>>54439752
>be me, Averlander necromancer
>everyone makes fun of me for setting up there, whenever I try to talk about my Brigundian warriors they start going 'MOOOO'
>at least Witchhunters don't bother me, all the normals think I'm just a pissy old farmer
>hang out with Lichwitch most of the day
>Lichwitch isn't his name, but he's gotten to that point where he just assumes everyone knows his name
>thinks I'm one of his old apprentices and only answers questions after doing chores, but he has no sense of time anymore and I can ask him questions nonstop
>he's alright for a lich
>lure a few would-be treasurehunters into a Strigoi tomb underneath an old graveyard
>manage to save the skeletons too, reanimate them and send them into town for laughs
>meet a 7/10 tavern wench, almost fall in love until I realize how warm her skin is, that shit's gross

Is there any lore for the Tong other than the stuff in Liber Chaotica?

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>>54433317
Chaos is the only true answer.

>>54439929
>lure a few would-be treasurehunters into a Strigoi tomb underneath an old graveyard
>>manage to save the skeletons too

how?

>>54439945
DWARFED
HOW CAN CHAOS EVEN COMPETE?!

>>54433317
chaos
we've reached the point where there's no contest

the real question is:
who are the true protectors of the world?
lizardmemes, lanklelves or the menpire?

>>54439940
I think the Tamurkhan book has stuff about them, and maybe Tome of Corruption

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>>54440197
No one is the real protector of the world. Lizardmen basically camp in Lustria, around arguably some important shit but they aren't working to save the world from every Chaos invasion. The High Elves try to keep control of everything but a lot is out of their grasp and they're not as powerful as they used to be, half their influence these days is through trade. And the Empire can really only focus on keeping itself together, and it's mere happenstance that means it's protecting the nations around it.

Moving down the list past the obvious no's like Dark Elves and Chaos, the Dwarves are too stubborn and insular and can barely keep their Dwarven Empire together, the Bretonnians are inward focused as well and their crusades and Erranty Wars really don't shift the balance much...I guess the best argument I can make is for Kislev, because it takes the brunt of just about every Chaos invasion every damn time. It may not mean to protect the world, but it's the first line of defense.

>>54432841
>But I like small breasts
gbk2/a/ fagort

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>>54440393
Is this fan art?

>>54440497
Its official drawing by Dave Gallagher.

>>54434317
>>54434334
I am curious what it would have been like if you referring to a video game rpg instead.

Something that basically lets you explore the whole world as all sorts of possible player characters, sandbox style?

>>54440603
I'd kill for an orc rpg that lets you piss around the world, getting bigger and 'arder, beating up all sorts of gits, and eventually ending up derailing the end times by accident

>>54433317

Chaos wank destroyed the setting.

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>>54434462
Damn those sexy rat ladies!

I'll say it again, if skaven were more like real life rats and had the potential for friendship with other races they would be higher level waifus than any elf or damsel.

>>54434666
>going into sewers with a fucking torch

Every time.

>>54434744
I'd add Genevieve as another Legendary Hero.

Wait, to 4th edition is really happening? Total War really saved Warhammer?

>>54440675
No 9th edition though.

>>54440675
You know how BvS had superman getting nuked in upper orbit, beginning ot dessicate before he regenerated?

Thats pretty much what happened to whfb.

>>54434964
I bought the first Blood Bowl, is there any serious reason to get the sequel apart from 'more teams'?
Only ever played with the one human team in the campaign before drifiting away from it.

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>>54440497
Nah, it's concept art. Some stuff got made into models in some fashion, some didn't. It's arguably canon in some sense, though more in matters of design and look.

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>>54440645
YOU TAKE THAT BACK

>>54434392
I pat tha skaven.

>>54435683
Crossbows were the origin of the firearms ban in Bret.

When guns & cannons came along they just classed them as Crossbows and Large Crossbows.

>>54436607
count me in

>>54433699
>making Tomb Kings neutral instead of evil
>Giving a faction more depth and the player more freedom in the way they can create their armies and lord
>A bad thing

wut

>>54440808
That amuses me.

>Crossbows
>Crossbows-that-shoot-round-balls
>Large-Crossbows-that-shoot-round-balls
>Crossbows-that-shoot-shaped-pieces-of-metal-contained-within-a-revolving-cylinder
>Large-Crossbows-that-shoot-round-balls-and-chains-and-other-shit-what-the-fuck-Ogres

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So apparently these are both 6th edition, one original, the other revised.

What should i use for my games? Is using the revised considered a dickass move since it covers the gap between 6th and 7th edition?
I noticed that on average there are more options and cheaper runes in the revised edition, but th older one has some pretty unstoppable shit (auto-hit, auto-wound)

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>>54440759
UGLY MAN-THINGS

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>>54440948
Begone furfag scum.

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>>54440948
Furries are worst.

>>54440948
I do admit they kind of fucked up with the Bretonnian ladies. I don't know why, and I don't think any mods so far have really fixed them. Maybe they didn't put as much work into a FreeLC? Not trying to hate, but I do think there's a little less quality in them compared to what we see in armies behind paid DLCs. Maybe it was just because they were half-in already.

>>54440882
Use the revised one, it's the latest.

>>54436104

2nd ED wasn't bad but it had a ton of problems. Like the entire magic system and horrible lack of balance between pretty much everything.

They need to update it quite a bit to compete with stuff out today.

>>54441309
The magic system was fine.

Balance is mostly a problem in weapons, and easily houseruled.

Careers aren't supposed to be balanced.

>>54441309
I played 2nd ED quite a lot and never saw any balanceing issues

>>54441309
>horrible lack of balance
Never saw a balance issue except when people did baseless theorycrafting. In actual play, I saw no issues.

The only issue with magic was sometimes inconsistent wording and how autistic readings could lead to things like Fire magic not setting things on fire.

Weapons aren't really unbalanced either, except by design, it's just that sometimes it's hard to tell what they were going for. Using the alternate rules in the Old World Armory lead to some wonkyness, though, and since I enjoy breaking up weapons into different actual weapons (even if they get the same stats), that could use some work.

But that's about it.

>>54440645
>Damn those sexy rat ladies!
Skaven ladies are, like, the opposite of sexy.

>>54441374
>The magic system was fine.

Lores were absolutely unbalanced with each other and 3/4 of spells were garbage while some were incredibly broken.

Also 10% of going mad every time you cast a spell as new mage. Along with higher miscast chance the more powerful you get making rolling more than Magic 2 pointless in most situations.

>>54441402
Waifufags and masturbaters don't care about lore.

>>54441393
>Weapons aren't really unbalanced either

Firearms were shit. Bows ruled because of multi attack and no dodging projectiles. Two handed weapons were infinitely inferior to one hand weapon + shield config.

>>54441402
enormous and bloated breeding slaves are probably sexy to someone

I remember bullcrap like speed 5 dwarfs in plate armor.

Or priest magic fuckups being more dangerous than chaos magic fuckups.

2e wasn't terrible but it had so many stupid rules.

>>54441416
While it's true that shields save lives in that game, thanks to Impact a swift attack with a great weapon was pretty much a guaranteed kill against anything not ogre-sized

>>54441437
>Dwarves with M 5 in full plate
>bullcrap
Fuck you, running dorfs 4 lyfe

It's the one thing i dearly hope they don't remove

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>>54441414
>furfags don't care about lore
Fix.

>>54441071
its because you have tisms.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=939472379

Here's a mod that makes them look presentable and different from each other.

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>>54441460
>tfw no high elf waifu.

>>54441442

Not with hp and armor tougher enemies had.

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>>54441477
Must sail to Lothern for them.

>>54441477
Good. I'm glad to see that they don't do the same thing as the DoW games and introduce new female elf characters, because someone has to bring some tits on the table. Most important high elf characters are still male and they aren't tarnished by this waifufaggotry this much.

>>54441404
Some lore are weaker. That's kinda, you know, canon.

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>>54441541
High Elves have female mages and princesses, Alarielle, handmaidens and avelorn sisters DLC is inevitable.

>>54441604
And it's all in accordance with the lore. You'd see me raging when they would have created an entirely new named female mage as a hero, because Teclis wasn't sexy enough.

>>54441541
The mother fucking Dark Elves are overflowing with female characters

>>54441635
>high elves

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>>54441630
>Implying twink boy elf isn't sexy as female

>>54441630
the entire point of the game is a sandbox
I am going to make teclis sit in the turtle island while I take my elf waifu around the world for fun adventures.

>>54441630
>>54441541
DoW has always used OC rather than pre-existing characters. Sperging about female characters in DoW is like sperging about the characters in Vermintide.

Just admit you have a problem with women and get over it.

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>>54441541
The High Elf Everqueen (and her bodyguard) is an important female elf they could add.

>>54441686
>they could add.
will add. They're holding her and her handmaidens back for the first round of DLC

>>54441647
Hooch Pandersnatch isn't exactly feminine

>>54441692
That's kind of why I'm waiting until they bring out all the games and their their expansions.

Also so they can perfect the crossover of them.

Just wish I wasn't so rubbish at Total War.

>>54441654
That would be like sperging out about your dudes, very stupid. Though of course I can call out your shit taste, because letting Tyrion cut through some hordes of lesser beings is probably the closest we ever come to a Silmarillion simulator.

>>54441667
Nice personal attack. These female characters became canon and in my opinion they had a bad influence on the Eldar, but maybe that's just the writing turning to shit in general.

>sperging about the characters in Vermintide
Kerillion is great, why would I be angry about her?

>>54441737
>stop liking what I don't like
>calls others out for bad taste.

>>54441742
>>stop liking what I don't like
I never said that. Please get some reading comprehension.

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>>54441721
His brother is even more girly.

>>54434462
>>54434476
That's not a bloated, pus ridden walking vagina spewing out 12 babies at a time. I think your very confused on what a skaven female is.

Memeing aside, people need to drop this fucking notion of a female skaven being anything other then a breeder. The only way that will happen is when GW does full retard for them tumblr-bucks and starts 'equalizing' shit.

>>54441630
Teclis literally needs to use whores to get laid

>>54441541

If anything Warhammer really needs more female characters.

The entire "grimderp manly muscular men fighting manly muscular men" crap is turning away many potential customers. It makes the setting seems like some crap for kids.

>>54434613

The ability to duel. Suggested this before, but have a button at the prebattle screen to issue a challenge. 2 lords/heros duke it out, winner gets a bonus to leadership for fight. You can refuse a challenge but suffer leadership loss (unless skaven/vamps of course).
Also make the arena smaller for the duel. Only way to do a 1v1 right now is 14 minutes of walking to eachother.

>>54441839
I think you need to check the definition of girly.

>>54441647

Teclis really would work better as a girl. Sickly, frail, little elf girl wielding crazy magick. As they are now both brothers are incredibly boring characters.

>>54441990
People are talking about the 'Noblebright' variation on skaven that was kicked around awhile back on /tg/

>>54441839
>>54442042
seriously... he has mascara on?

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>>54442042

He's right though.

>>54442025
The setting does have a number of female special characters or units in it.

They just aren't all included in Total Warhammer (yet?), but there has been a fair amount of models for them over the history of the game.

I hope all the Elector Counts are added to the game as 'Generic Legendary Lords', which would include a female Elector Count amongst them.

>>54442025
Then take it to the humans, chaos, various beast races and especially dwarves. There are already enough female elf character.

>>54442070
Yeah, because posting some elf from a completely different franchise, moreso an adaptation that its creator would not approve of because he was already slightly mad that they feminize some elf characters during his lifetime, really proves a lot.

>>54442025
better kids than weaboo waifu-fags

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>>54442080

It used to mention more before Archaon bullshit started.

>>54442115
You really are autistic, aren't you?

I'm not leveling this as an insult, you seem to genuinely be on the spectrum.

>>54441404
>Along with higher miscast chance the more powerful you get making rolling more than Magic 2 pointless in most situations.

Error.

You did not increase the mischance potential by becoming a stronger mage - you increased the mischance potential by using more power than you should (ie: rolling extra dice instead of relying on channelling and using the proper ingredients).

>>54441416
>Sword and board better than dual wielding
>Saying this like you're surprised

But yeah, firearms always feel sorta weak. Could use some updates beyond just houserule.

>>54441437
Speed 5? Bitch, try M6, T7 starting characters from 1ed.

>>54441990
>. Constant application of Warpstone derived narcotics beginning at a young age keeps them blissfully ignorant of the events that transpire in the Under-Empire. So cloistered away from the rest of their race are they that some do not learn their race's chittering speech, nor are they proficient in social skills…or so the Skaven believe.
- Children of the Horned Rat

Skaven Breeders are biologically modified to make them excellent breeders. It's not impossible that a female skaven, if not caught at birth at modified like the rest of her gender, could just grow up to be a normal rat(wo)man.

I mean, shit - it's not like Rat Ogres come out that way. If they do that for Rogres, it makes sense that they'd be doing something similar for breeders.

>>54442104

That's how most people see male elves no matter how much you hate it.

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>>54442092
The excuse for Dwarfs not having any females displayed in art or the tabletop is something like "since they are a semi-dying race they protect their womenfolk intensely and thus you don't see them leaving the holds" right?

They had some female dorf models LONG AGO, IN THE DISTANT PAST since I remember having the card game where the art was pictures of ancient GW models.
Maybe they really could find a reason to include a female dwarf or two in TWW...

>>54442138
Plus fem-dorfs are only like 25% of their race. They don't have a 50/50 split.

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>>54442137
And the popularity of TW could help turning against that. It's not like they need to invent manly elf characters for the high elves to make that work.

>>54442135

Never rolling more than 3 magic dice because you could explode is not a good mechanic.

40k systems updated the magic rules and made them much better.

>>54442121
A female Halfling High Master sounds pretty neat, when did halflings stop being able to use magic?

>>54442138
>since they are a semi-dying race they protect their womenfolk intensely and thus you don't see them leaving the holds"
It's more like what the other one said, because this logic would apply to high elves as well. They don't need to throw all their females on the battlefield, but just some more important female characters for dwarves with be nice, just to have some diversity

>>54442171
The 40k Psyker system is literally notorious for being psychotic.

Also - the miscasts don't mean your spell fails (assuming you made the roll) and the chances of one of the miscasts actually fucking you up are relatively minimal.

>>54442185
Never, it just stopped coming up.

>>54442200

At doubles? Sure. Triples could kill you with a bit of bad luck.

I really hope they go back to 1st ed when it comes to writing.

It was just so much better than Storm of Chaos mess.

>>54442164
WH elves ain't got beards or bulging biceps, and I sincerely doubt you can look manly without those
beard alone is like 75% of the whole essence of manliness

>>54441309

I hope they do different crit tables for different damage types like in dark heresy, in plain 2e one handed axes were just plain better and two handers were often not worth it compared to shield or parry weapon in offhand.

>>54442239
What about an elf raised by dwarves, who out of hatred for his race managed to grow a beard out of sheer spite?

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>>54442251
erm, still nope

>>54441437

I have a speed 5 dwarf (6 with flee) and it's hilarious. God bless runebearer career.

>>54442239
>manly is about how you look, not what you do
Yeah, all these scrawny little hipsters with their hipster beards are sure the epitome of manliness. You just made that up because Korhil has bigger axes than most dwarves.

>>54442277
Korhil doesn't have a beard or a spectacular mustache.
He isn't the epitome of manliness.

>>54442277
beard alone doesn't make manly (dwarfs are fucking ridiculous comic midgets, despite being 50% beard)
but you can't be manly without a beard

>>54442223
So, ignoring the maths on going up in miscasts because I am not great with maths:

>1/100 chance of rolling triples
>At this level only 1/10 chance of taking d10 damage
>So we are at a 1/1000 chance at this stage of taking 1d10 damage
>If you're not a dunce and took a minute to set up a spell circle, you can re-roll one of your d10 in the casting step
>So now you're at 1/10,000 chance of taking damage.

Again, that's just at triples and ignoring deeper maths - but I've honestly never seen a miscast of greater than a triple, and I've only seen damage be a result from a miscast a bare handful of time.

>>54442290
>you can't be manly without a beard
>implying the Natty King isn't manly
Jeff, pls go

>>54442286
>He isn't the epitome of manliness
Point out where I said that. I won't even try to define the epitome of manliness, because it's highly subjective, but saying that it's more looks than actions is ridiculous.

>>54442290
>but you can't be manly without a beard
There are enough characters from various franchises out there that are considered manly without having a beard. Guts.

>>54442171
If you want reward with no risk, play pathfinder. This is Warhammet. See ya!

>>54442135
It's likely female white rats are spared, too, though one hasn't been mentioned since WFRP 1e.

>>54442316
literally who?

>>54442320
>anime
>manly
pick one
anime is gay by definition

>>54442337
I wonder what happens to them?

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>>54442290
>dwarfs are fucking ridiculous comic midgets

>>54442315
>>54442326

The point is it was always better to just roll 2 dice. Stuff that required more was just not worth it.

And every lore had 2-3 good spells that were spammed infinitely with everything else almost never used.

>>54442352
thanks for illustrating my point
those grudges are one of their most ridiculous features

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>>54442320
I wouldn't mind seeing a Guts-knockoff in Warhammer, would fit pretty well.

There's many ways you could do the character depending on which version of Guts you want to most model him after from a particular point in time of the series.

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>>54442352

>>54442352
>waste an army and ruin your diplomatic relations with humans because of few coins
>start a gigantic war that lasts 400 years and pretty much dooms your civilization over a beard

Dwarfs are retarded.

>>54442361
>The point is it was always better to just roll 2 dice. Stuff that required more was just not worth it.

Generally. You only reached for more power when the situation warranted it - and the increase from Chanelling when you upped your Magic is always a safer and more dependable approach.

>And every lore had 2-3 good spells that were spammed infinitely with everything else almost never used.

Fair point.

>>54442347
>not knowing Scooby, the natty king
Jeff, pls go

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>>54442347
>discarding thousands of different series because of the country they originate from
>not a pleb
It's now too obvious that I'm arguing with at least one retard.

>>54442138
Legally, dwarf women are the equal of men, can divorce, hold office, hold any job, and refuse any marriage for any reason. Practically, the demands of duty, tradition, and honor chain women as heavily as men. Female dwarf warriors happen, but they're rare outside of vagabond mercs, rangers, and maybe slayers. Male dwarfs consider protecting their non-numerous women a top priority, and a failure to do so is a terrible humiliation.

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>>54442352

Dwarfs are autistic baby midgets.

Japanese dwarfs are so much better.

>>54442393
All hail the Chaos Dwarf master race.

>>54442135
You can't far in the under empire without someone knowing something. Females are a legit form of currency for them, there is not a single skaven who wouldn't exploit a female should she some how avoid detection. There are more ways then tits and vag to identify, and for a race that bases alot on scent, it's just not happening. Skaven don't need companionship and are actually distrust in of things that get too close, so there no real hook of "warlord who just wanted a waifu" or some shit.

The race itself isn't just some misunderstood fuzzy animals, they are the children of a greater deamon who could be a love child of tzeentch and nurgle. They are born evil. A "skaven who grew up away from the under empire" wouldn't work either (see clan carrion, nomadic tribe of skaven).

People pushing for female skaven rarly have a decent reason other the terrible waifu garbage. It's always depicted as some pseudo furry fan want with eye liner.
Acceptable:
>skaven breeder is particularly vicious, kills and eats her mates, eventually tossed out, loses warp addle, and comes back as a grotesque black widow clan lord who gathered slaves. She is deranged and hideous. One clan see potential in an attack dog warband.

>one breeder gets some real nasty plague. Clan pestalins moves into to experiment, devises some wicked diseases. She is held in high religious regard as a gift from horned rat, warp addle wears off. She starts to back stab her way into a warlord.

Not acceptable: she's so smart and not gross and sexy assassin who is so dark and mysterious and likes me :3

>>54442251
Druchii already grow facial hair.

>>54442393
Are you implying Caledor not only didn't have it coming, but would have caused an even greater fuck up somewhere down the line?
The dwarfs did the elves a favour by killing him

>>54442406
more like drawing styles
anime hairstyles alone are enough

>>54442419

Can't wait to see those fuckers in total war.

>>54442407
A female Dwarf Ranger special character would be pretty good.

Then again a Stunty Valkyrie Slayer is pretty tempting too...

>>54442413
All those firebombs and those 2 atomic bombs weren't enough.

>>54442349
White rats are sacred, so they'd be brought to the Grey Seers for training. Of course, apprenticeship is literally murderous.

>>54442361
Most of the best spells require 3 die to hit reliably,

Quit moving the goalposts, you were mathematically proven wrong.

>>54442449

This is going into Grudge Note.

>>54442473

What best spells? You mean random shit like "fires d10 missiles" that could very well do less damage then generic fireball?

Or maybe the supposedly apocalyptic spell that only does a bunch of str3 hits everything with high toughness and armor ignores?

>>54442447
>female slayer
>instead of weaponised beard she has weaponised nipple piercings

>>54442393
A foreign state that you think is failing at stopping its own people from raiding your caravans. After asking him to explain the situation and handle it, the leader decides to offend your ambassador culturally by doing a taboo.

Essentially this is the same as sending an ambassador to some country today with him getting raped and saying "go back to your country and tell him how big of a little bitch his state is".

The two penny groodge is one of the more retarded humorous ones that supports your case though, although it may just be there for comic relief and to show how serious dwarves can be, that and the halfling chef grudge.

>>54442473
>Most of the best spells require 3 die to hit reliably

Like? Because I can't remember any. You won't cast Fiery Blast reliably even with 3 dice. It's always better to spam safer weaker spells.

The strongest spells with casting number 31 are the #1 offender since nobody will ever use them.

>>54442559
They have grudge because of kislev vodka.

>>54442559
>this is the same as sending an ambassador to some country today with him getting raped and saying "go back to your country and tell him how big of a little bitch his state is"

Even this wouldn't start a war. Ruskies downed a civilian jet with 200+ people and that didn't start a war.

Dwarfs literally committed suicide over a grudge.

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>>54442576
THEY HAVE WRONGED US

>>54442596
Russkies got sanctioned so hard that their economy went into the shitter. You don't need to fight them if you can starve them.

>>54442559
>deliberately omitting the fact that they demanded immediate payment
Both were retarded.

>>54442135
>Skaven Breeders are biologically modified to make them excellent breeders.

That just says they're drugged, not modified.

>>54442612
The dwarfs asked them what the hell happened because they saw a bunch of high elves killing their trade caravan.
Caledor acted like a chimp and was asked to foot the bill.
He shaved the dwarf and then died like a bitch.

>>54442596
In medieval times and other periods of time it probably could have, present times is more complex with countries having nuclear weapons and other issues.

>Age of Sigmar thread got lapped AGAIN
lmao

>>54442612
Not an unreasonable request, given that the ambassador was forced to join the Slayers out of shame.
For all practical purposes in Dwarf eyes, he was murdered.

>>54442612
>>54442612
As was their right, raiding trade caravans is an act of war.

Why haven't skaven or nurgle developed a virus that makes beards fall off? Seems like rather simple skin condition, shouldn't be that hard.

>>54442652
And shit, I just reread your post and realised the fuckup.
Disregard mine.

>>54442627
I can only repeat myself
>deliberately omitting the fact that they demanded immediate payment

>>54442559

Dwarf ambassador was an idiot who demanded crap elves would never agree to and refused to listen. And in earlier editions it also mentioned how he drew a weapon.

Then after war started midgets attacked the same city 14 times retreating with gigantic loses every time until elf king was so tired of this he charged at them like a retard.

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>>54442248

That's why we all use http://gonensworld.com/crits/wimp/ .

>>54442505
A number of the nastier Death lore spells, a goodly number of the ice witch ones, too. I don't have my books in front of me.

>>54442627
>and then died like a bitch

After killing 400 dwarfs including high king's son.

>>54442505

>You mean random shit like "fires d10 missiles"

You're straight up lying now. I know exactly what spell you mean, and Firey Blast has a minimum number of missiles equal to your Magic level.