/srg/ - Shadowrun General

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Hey Yekka small little bug to report on 5193169:

Choosing the "Wild Hunt" Mentor Spirit crashes Chummer.

>>54392376
>How powerful are governments in your games?
Depends, some are equal, some are more powerful, and some are just tools.
Yet the ones that are "equal" are so heavily influenced by bribes and donations from the corps that you can hardly call it being equal anyway.

>>54392450
Jesus I misquoted first post instead of OP. I suck.

>>54392450
I remember reading the setting for the Cyberspace RPG and being somewhat baffled by the US government being presented as competent/powerful. I guess I was just used to Shadowrun.

>>54392450
Any of them ever try to start a war with a megacorp? That'd seem kind of an interesting scenario.

>>54392501
Amazonia fought a war with Aztlan, if that counts.

>>54392526
I mean it should count, Asstechnology is basically the Aztlan goverment.

>>54392349
>How powerful are governments in your games?
Depends. We're playing in Germany, where certain States like Westphalia, Pomorya, the Troll Republic of Schwarzwald and the Military State of Saxony are pretty powerful. Hamburg, where our group is currently active, is faltering in its traditional anti-corp stance. While it still upholds independence, the defence is wearing down to the point where some Megacorps are starting to claim territory in the Southwest of the city.

>>54392376
While we're on the topic of Chummer: the GMC Phoenix is misspelled Pheonix.

>>54392565
Then yeah, there are countries that are capable and sometimes willing to fight wars with AAA megas.

Though, those countries are probably fewer than AAAs.

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>>54392607
I can imagine the Scandi Union being willing to fight a AAA corp if the corp did something detrimental to them. They do have that hardcore "We are in control not the corps" attitude.
Less certain how capable they would be to do so though.

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I've seen street level come up often enough, but has anyone ever played a Prime game? I feel like I've never heard someone mention one here.

Pic related, a little.

>>54392695
I was a player in one some two years back. Lasted for three months of weekly playing and was rather intense. We reached a stage where getting initiative was paramount, even more so than in normal rounds since the firepower of most enemies and ourselves was more than enough to take out most common opposition (or us) in one combat round or less.

We ran against S-K, directly fucking with the golden slugs investments and the two runners that made it out fucked off to spess in fear of retaliation.

>>54392349
>How powerful are governments in your games?

It varies. The various South American governments are more or less all corporate owned, but the more secretive US alphabet agencies still act as if the US never split (in the CIA's case, the fact that it's illegal for them to operate in the United States of America is a boon for them when they're still operating in the UCAS and the CAS) and have conducted no small number of shadow wars against the Big Ten over their practices and operations in the US. In Japan, the imperial family has been pretty good at putting their foot down on corporate overreach and regularly hire shadowrunners to enforce their will when an official statement won't do. And Hong Kong is such a melting pot of government and corporate influences that it's hard to tell who's running what.

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New possible gm here.

Am I insane, or is their a 5e Rules Index? Like a condensed rule set with only rules, no rules hidden in fluff? The main rulebook sucks so much, and I swear I saw one at a FLGS.

>>54392349
In my campaign, the Governments and the Corps both require each other to survive, as many of the goals that both have overlap with each other. Examples of this would be how the UCAS military is Ares Macro's largest customer, and without them they'd have to find another country to become the sole supplier of arms so that they can make up for the massive deficit. On the flip side, Ares is one of the largest money makers for them, so there is no way in hell they are going to lose them to anybody, especially not to the fucking Confederacy.

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>>54393147
There's Quickstart rules but that's hardly exhaustive. The best place to get a no-bullshit summary of the rules is probably the fan-made superbook and the cheat sheets all in the pastebin. The Superbook is getting out of date though, since the original author abandoned the project.

>>54393147
Look in the pastebin. There are some very very useful Rules summaries for you to download there.

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How different would the world of Shadowrun be if the Ghost Dance was stopped before completion. If a bunch of butt hurt natives didn't kill hundreds of millions through the mana spike (I blame them helping VITAS to spread because of the spike) and the direct destruction.

How much better would be the world be if then?

Follow up from Forbidden Arcana; I just went to this weird astral place and helped build a bridge from skulls and guts. Just who or what was on the other side?

>>54393733
>Just who or what was on the other side?
most likely horrors
thanks for dooming us all

>>54393733
>Just who or what was on the other side?
Unicorns and Rainbows since everything always works out for the best in the sixth.

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>>54393843

I don't know what your talking about, I've always looked like this? *They* let me know we've always been this, and they have so many more things to share with me. If only I can build that bridge within my own soul...

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>>54394016

>>54394016
Sir? Far from me to overstep my boundaries, but you seem to have something stuck in your soul.

>>54392349
It depends on the country. Some are insignificant, some are major players. Canonically, for example, Ares gets more than half of its revenue from UCAS and CAS military and law enforcement contracts. Some nations have tremendous power, even compared to the AAAs.

But for every nation able to play with the big dogs, there are a dozen that are mere puppets to the megas. Just look at Hong Kong.

>>54393843
It's fine, we'll just build Kaers again. Plus, this time we'll have internet and computers, it won't be that bad.

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Can I go Fullmetal Alchemist if I let my ally spirit inhabit a suit of armor, and will I be fucking invincible if I wear it?

>>54394889
>Keping more than one easily controllable Spirit that close to you
>In combat

Chunky Salsa

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>>54392376
That's what I get for assuming CGL spellchecks their shit. Should be fixed in the latest build. Also, yay, finally got scheduled builds behaving again.

>>54395036
literally just an Arma 3 paintover

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>>54395046
You're just an arma 3 paintover!

>>54395036
jetplanes normally don't shoot at footsoldiers - either the pilot is bored out of his mind or the folks on the ground really fucked up

>>54393733
>butthurt natives

They were being put in concentration camps, anon. Trail of Tears 2.0, now with added Holocaust flavor.

>>54393882
That's categorically not true.
Harlequin is still around.

>>54395143
>What is Close Air Support?

>What is what US warplanes and drones have been doing for 16 years now.

Come on anon.

>>54395178
>Harlequin is still around.
The immortal, god-like elf from the fourth world? What's next, you gonna claim it's perfectly fine to do deals with Dragons since Hestaby is just fine?

Get off the BTL's Omae, your parents are worried

>>54395227
I was implying that Harlequin being around meant that everything wasn't unicorns and rainbows.

>>54395257
Please be patient with >>54395227

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>>54395257
It's tired, I'm late

>>54395357
hot

>>54395384
Modern art with a little social commentary instead of people crying at single-color canvases for their beauty. Rare, but very welcome.

Would you fuck a dragon for nuyen?

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>>54395519
Metahuman or Dragonform?

The answer is no

>>54395519
yeah but who'd have enough nuyen

>>54395519
Depends on how old it is and how much I'd have to pay

>>54395519
>Not fucking a Dragon for free

>>54395519
Are they in a metahuman form or dragonform. My social adept would do it to gossip on the matrix later.

She spends too much time following gossip on dragons.

>>54395519
I'd do it for DocWagon Super-Platinum Service. Up front.

>>54395519
But that's already in the OP
>Shoot straight
No one wants to get semen in their eyes
>Conserve your ammo
Don't masturbate excessively
>And never ever cut a deal with a dragon
Don't accept sexual advances from a dragon.

>>54395637
Whore

>>54395187
Anon, planes drop bombs.
You are thinking of gunships.
Which are not boats.

>>54395616
>Doing anything for free in the sixth world
Hey sib, want to come on my next run? It's totally a hood. For sure. Think of all the poor sinless.

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>>54395852

Hello yes, this is BRRT, how do you do?

Also, the Harrier had a 25mm gunpod instead of 20mm for ground targets y'know?

>>54395901
Those don't do diving runs, anon.
They're good to sit at a billion miles up and blat away.

>>54395930
>Goalpost shifts from jets not shooting at footsoldiers
CAS
>Goalpost shifts to 'lol bombs, no gunz'
A-10
>Goalpost shifts b-but they don't dive in
Yeah no, you can fuck off now chummer. The original contention was that jets don't shoot at infantry and that has been disproven.

>>54395624
Metahuman since their dragon cocks and or pussies will either rip you apart or crush your bones. What would your character post? "OMG, just fucked a guy with golden skin who said he was pretty high up in Saeder-Krupp. Isn't Lofwyr a golden scaled dragon? Holy shit, did I just fuck Lofwyr in metahuman form?"

>>54396007
>gunships

>>54396033
Well, if she was knowingly fucking a dragon in its metahuman form, she'd either gush about how good that dragon cock/pussy is or complain that dragons suck at sex, no wonder there are so few drakes.

>>54396059
A-10's not a gunship dumbfuck, it's an attack jet. You're either talking about the colloquial attack helicopter or the AC-130. You know, stuff that uses guns for the main armament? As in, the definition of gunship? A-10's gun is supplementary, not primary.

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>>54396033
See that look? He kinky

>>54396096
Who's her favorite dragon?

>>54396127
>the thing designed around brrt doesn't use it

>>54396150
Just take the (You) and go dumbfuck.

>>54396135
He does an awful job at pretending he works for himself. Talks about the events of previous worlds and dragonkind like they're common knowledge. Refuses to say he's his own servant. It's all a dead give away.

>>54396191
>Hack writers trying to write a V:TM:B Kain
What did you expect?

Still, it was nice to have him show up, even though I just told him to fuck off as clearly as the game allowed me to. I don't know how much clearer I could have made my disdain for Dragonkind after giving over a Dragons body and soul to an AI to have fun with.

>>54396149
She had an experimental weapon she'd stolen, then had stolen from her by SK when her party was captured for changeling research.

So she likes to see how spats with Lofwyr end up and roots for Alamais! She likes to shit talk Lofwyr alot.

So there is a section that recommends speeding up combat by treating ranged attacks as Success tests instead of Opposed tests, but would people enjoy playing the type of combat where you don't really have a chance to defend yourself?

>>54396329
Ask your players...?

>>54396329
your chance to defend yourself is called higher Initiative

>>54396329
I think it depends on how important it is that combat is quick
If it it top, then these people most likely see the lack of defensive roll as a necessary evil
if it isn't, then you can just remove soak rolls. Still cuts out one roll (from 3 to 2) but keeps some rolls on your side

>>54396277
>Not siding with Vauclair
Cuck.

>>54396329
Depends on your group I guess. We use it for our round simply due to the process being a game in and of itself otherwise. Attack roll, Defence roll, armor/body roll, damage is clunky as hell and constantly dodging bullets with my Rigger is also unfun.

We've also reduced the damage roll to just armor, since it doesn't fucking matter how tough you are when someone whacks you with a club or hits you with a bullet. There's still only 7 layers of skin between that bullet and your squishy bits.

>>54396277
Eh, I'd say they wrote him well. They weren't trying to make him Cain, who was content with driving a taxi and hanging out with Jack for the rest of eternity. Lofwyr was a proud jackass and it only makes sense he couldn't really sell himself off as a wageslave. I took up his deal at the end of Dragonfall despite me giving control of the dragon to APEX because of money. If he tried anything I could just get APEX to wreck his shit with Panacea.

>>54396402
Enjoy getting tentacle raped by the horrors.

>>54396402
Not letting some crazy dude fuck over my city is cuck behavior? Check your neural pathways, Omae.

>>54396420
While I agree that APEX can wreck Lofwyrs shit, I don't think you can tell it what to do. APEX was pretty bro though, mowing down hose convergence morons all day erry day.

>>54396437
No one's getting tentacle raped, their patterns will just be corrupted until they go mad and cause suffering to those around them to increase the background count enough to attract more horrors who will just devour you whole to suck out your essence.

>>54396471
>side with Vauclair
>get soul vored
What's the downside?

Man, all good answers to my question.

>>54396367
>Ask your players...?
Group I'll be running soon is mainly people new to Shadowrun, and although the one guy that has experience does agree it slows things down.

>>54396406
>We've also reduced the damage roll to just armor, since it doesn't fucking matter how tough you are when someone whacks you with a club or hits you with a bullet.

Yeah the houserules I've written up exludes the Bod+Armor roll too, in favor of just flat armor and Bod giving more CM boxes, I'm just afraid of gimping melee completely for people who don't go full tank.

>>54396437
Please. Everybody knows that the writers only wrote that ending so bleakly because they were butthurt that so many people wanted to be able to agree with the heroic dragonslayer and rid the world of a great evil instead of meekly accepting their slavery under giant firebreathing lizards.

>>54396455
>my city
Don't let the "anarchists" you lord over from your lair in the sewers hear you talking that way, chummer.

>>54396502
Still stands. Ask them if they want the rule or not. No reason not to.

>>54396515
>dragons
>at all of a worry
Just kill them with a skynet if you are feeling grumpy. Not hard.

>>54396502
>I'm just afraid of gimping melee completely for people who don't go full tank.
Just give melee the option to use a simple action for an attack and you're golden. At least it worked for us.

>>54396550
>Still stands. Ask them if they want the rule or not. No reason not to.
Huh, yeah you're right. I guess the question is the same no matter the system. Thanks.

>>54396565
>Just give melee the option to use a simple action for an attack and you're golden.
As in they get to do two attacks each round or what? Also how did your group feel about Reaction not playing a part in combat aside from initiative?

Also on a similar note, would increasing the difficulty to hit someone that is moving if he has Wired Reflexes or something of that sort be a reasonable thing?

>>54396691
Reaction is already used for the Dodge pool, so just set the Threshold to hit equal to the average hits that goon would have on their Dodge pool. PR1-2 would have 2-3 , PR3-4 would have 3-4, etc.

>>54395519
The answer, as always. Only in a loving relationship involving two consenting adults where the appropriate forms had been filled out, signed, duplicated, archived, and encrypted.

>>54396863
This poses a good question. Are any of the Great Dragons in commited relationships?

>>54396890
I think Perianwyr is.

>>54393733
The United States wouldn't have balkanized and Megacorps wouldn't have had leverage to demand extraterritoriality

Rather than Shadowrun, you get Cyberpunk 2077. With elves.

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Yekka, I cant seem to find the default HK-XM30 in Chummer, and all the variants have no price. Is this intentional or an oversight?

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>>54397254
15F, check availability filter.

>>54397254
Its intentional because your gunfu is shit

SHIIIIIIIIIT

>>54397233
Sounds much better.

WHY exactly were they putting NA's in camps again...?

>>54397353
Weren't they already in them?

>>54397353
Plot reasons.

>>54397365
I mean reservations are shit but that's half the natives fault because they're completely self governed.

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>>54397353
Fallout from the Seretch Decision, essentially. Native American lands were reappropriated by the government, as various megacorporations began swinging their extraterritorial dicks around and wanting more land.

>With their new freedom, the corporations of North America increased their exploitation of the continent’s resources with a vengeance. In what the media dubbed “The Resource Rush,” corporate coalitions demanded and were granted access to oil, mineral, and land resources on federal lands. Again, and again, in the years of 2002-2008, the government invoked the right of eminent domain to bring property under its control, only to license its exploitation to a corporate sponsor. Taking the brunt of this landgrab were the Indian reservations and federal parklands.

>Conservationists and Indian-rights groups expressed their shock and disgust, though corporate influence and paramilitary power made it dangerous to object. Angry and frustrated, the more radical elements founded the Sovereign American Indian Movement (SAIM), whose roots traced back to the Indian-rights struggles of the twentieth century.

>The growing tension and hatreds finally erupted in 2009. On May 5, United Oil Industries announced that it had acquired the right to exploit the petrochemical resources in one-quarter of the remaining federal parks and one-tenth of the Indian lands, which the government had just confiscated. SAIM reacted immediately. A small band entered the Shiloh Launch Facility in northwest Montana, capturing a missile silo. To this day, no one knows how the raiders managed to bypass the security patrols, but once inside the missile silo, they met up with John Redbourne, a USAF major and a full-blood Dakota Sioux. After knocking his partner unconscious, Redbournce took the man’s keys and codes to unlock the launch failsafes.

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>>54397586
>Indian Lands
>Resources

Germans think we gave the Natives any lands with resources in them

Germans think we made parklands out of any lands with resources in them

Newsflash, the Ooooohhhhnly place in the United States where this could even come close to being practical or true is Alaska, because oil pipelines. And that's just pipelines, the natives don't have land with Oil in it - we took all that shit. They're just in the way of a pipeline.

Federal parklands are literally just big forests and marshes. There's nothing useful there except lumber, which is hardly worth seizing.

>>54393147
Look for the Superbook in the pastebin. Not official, but it's exactly that.

>>54394684
>implying there won't be a horror of trolling that dumpshocks everyone on the grid for teh lulz

>>54397817
What you're looking for is a mad passion rather than a horror.

>>54397401
The problem with the reservations is that they crippled Native nations. They forced the natives onto shitty land, and both the USA and Canada have regularly violated treaties for centuries if it turns out there's something of value there (like the Black Hills, or hydro areas in Quebec). At the same time, they promised certain levels of aid but never delivered on half the promises, cheating at both ends of the deal.

The Inconvenient Indian is a great book about the subject of Anglo-First Nations relations, and why the problems seem intractable. I'd love to see the author get a shot at writing a NAN sourcebook that characterizes more than just the Sioux.

I really hate the /pol/tards.

>>54397754
Like I said earlier, it was for PLOT reasons, not anything believable.

>>54397586
And trying to provoke nuclear war to take out hundreds of millions of civilians means that the NAN deserve every bit of bad shit they get.

>>54398242
Kill yourself.

Do AI make good deckers if you use karmagen to get around their terrible priority table?

>>54398321
AI don't make good deckers, full stop. They're fucked when it comes to loud because they're really fragile, and fucked when it comes to quiet because of how they acquire OS.

>>54398389
Well, what do AI suck least at? Being Faces?

>>54398405
Rigging?

>>54392349
They're sleeping giants outside of the intelligence communities. If any of them ever get involved in anything, like the CIA deciding to throw its weight around, you were dead they noticed you and every breath you took in the space between was a generous formality.

>>54395357
How did they make that?

>>54392695
Desu Sex; Anime Penetration

>>54398405
Rigging (street samurai) and Face.

Who's the most powerful character you've ever created and what was their stats?

>>54398675
A corporate executive.

Just a shitload of really good contacts, really.

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The dangers of not upgrading the Pilot program.

On the other hand, Knightscope is an absolutely dope name for a cyberpunk security company.

>>54399049
Personally I would have called it "Douglas Adams was right" but that's just me.

>>54399085
Everyone already beat me to the Marvin jokes, even digging up the full quote about the bucket of water. Also a lot of talk about a butter robot.

>>54399120
Not everyone, chummer, you just beat me to it.

Kicking myself that I never thought of that

>>54399133
By everyone I mean 'people I know' not 'anonymous 13-year-olds on an anonymous Peloponnesian woodcarving forum.'

>>54399120
>butter robot
How entry-level can you get?

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>>54399189
Fuck your Cartoon Network teenage-cringe bullshit, it doesn't even have waifus worth considering.

>>54398930
how good we talkin' bout here?

>>54392349
Jolly jack?

*sigh*

Unzips

>>54399243
"Phone Call that Saved Europe" tier.

>>54399474
damn

>>54393088
>The various South American governments are more or less all corporate owned
Except for, you know, Amaziona, aka super Brazil, humies get out, reeeeeeeeeeee.

>>54398675
A street witch who ended up initiating nine times and joining a Lodge of Morgana.

>>54396890
Dragons don't pair bond, and they see sex more like jury duty or selective service registration than a recreational activity.

>>54399907
sucks for them

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Is there room in shadowrun for an incredibly narcissistic asshole?
Probably with the distinctive style quality.

>>54400209
Sounds pretty chill, honestly. Low stress, no drama.

No wonder they have plenty of spare time to amass incredible fortunes.

>>54400252
Absolutely, so long as they aren't putting the rest of the team in danger.

The entire Black Magic tradition exists for people like that.

>>54397754
Eh, there's a non-zero amount of resources that you'd find SOMEONE interested in. If nothing else, you'd find companies purchasing it defensively.
>>54398405
They make decent street sams with enough karma investment, but that's purely because Depth becomes their god stat, doing pretty much everything that's important.
>>54400252
Well sure, Shadowrun's always got room for PCs.

>>54400323
Black Magic Social Adepts are basically "My Will to Power is greater than yours, so bend over!"

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How would you guys feel if your GM did a clown flavored horrors incursion?
I'm still thinking about the incoming awakening of the mcdonalds franchise into a living-god once it hits 100 years old.

>>54400911
What, like Happy Time Circus?

When spirits manifest physically, how easy is it to tell their true nature? Obviously a Fire spirit would be a big burning thing, but is it possible a free spirit of man might look like a regular guy (except astrally), or a spirit of beast might pass for a regular dog or bear?

>>54401330
>When spirits manifest physically, how easy is it to tell their true nature?
Almost without exception, obvious at first glance.

>A spirit’s physical form is metahuman-sized or smaller and very obviously ethereal (there is no mistaking a spirit for something worldly).

>>54401330
Unless they have the "Realistic Form" power, it's so completely obvious you don't even need to roll.

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>>54392349
>How powerful are governments in your games?

in a third world country, Megas have full control of them, to the point of the police force is taking orders from them.

in first world country, it's close to an equal playing field to many Megas.

yo Yekka

Probably has been answered a thousand times already, but

how do I go about modifying vehicle stats, as per Rigger5? Like, modding drones and shit. Is this an option I need to tick?

>>54401680
never mind I am a retard and suck dicks, I figured it out myself.
feel free to mock

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There's no better feeling as a Gm then invoking absolute paranoia in your players. When they start pointing fingers at NPCs and even PCs I know I've done my job right. I only hope I can cause a full on PvP encounter by the end of the game.

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what it feels like when I play Decker

>>54399315

I keep checking to see if his artistic skills have gotten any better over the years.

He still struggles with basic anatomy sometimes.

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>Trying to listen to Neo-Anarchist Podcast to easy-to-consume information about Shadowrun's backstory while grinding
>HELLO MY LITTLE CROWS
>mfw

Does this get less cringy over time and does the audio quality increase

Because jesus christ

>>54401841
No. Yes. In that order.

Enjoy the cheese omae, it's part and parcel of Shadowrun.

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Got a long storytime for you, /srg/. I'm gonna take the time to use meticulous detail so it'll take a few posts.

It concerns five teammates:
>Hammer, weaboo and stealth sniper
>Joe, driver and street sam
>Mr. Marvelous (Marv), 'face' and adept gunbunny
>Saab, helicopter pilot and tactical retreat expert
>Voortrekker (Voor), streetsam tank and quasi-face, me
And their quest to get paid.

Guide to reading the map:
X = Ordinary AK-10 mook
B = This guy has a 24P rocket launcher
C = Technical truck
T = Troll with pain editor and extensive cyberware
D = Doggo

We're african mercenaries and had just been given an off-the-books job: 10K to "Send a message" to this base and the client would pay for any loot we got. So naturally, we were incentivized to attempt to cause as little materiel damage as possible to maximize our rewards. We learn that they have a magical combat drug but miss how dangerous it is (hence their reticence to use it) and what its effects are (which would've totally fucked our plans if they used it more). We also learn that this merc group is tangentially related to Ares and assume The Unseen are just a commcall away.

So we plan. Our plan is to do area denial and force them into a place where we can spam stun/gas grenades at them in a cluster, ideally in the center. We get into position and deploy directional jammers at the compound and cut off their technical communications.

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>>54402675
Voortrekker approaches the side of the compound and pulls out an IED made of commercial explosives, placing it on the wall (purple X on the eastern side) and waits until it blows. Meanwhile, Hammer tries to take out a troll, discovering that it can survive a called shot to the vitals and look more angry than woozy. At this point, two mooks begin trying to get in the tank, and Hammer is too busy keeping Marv, who is being threatened with a rocket launcher in his direction, alive, to prevent their entry. She shoots the rocket launcher holder in order to not get Marv killed. Marv hops down from his hot rooftop and tries to regroup with Joe and join his entry team, southeast courtyard only having one mook left. The troll begins suppressive firing Hammer's house and Hammer has to make a run for it, using edge to jump - in stealth, because she is covered with Ruthenium Polymer Cloaking - to the southern building. In the knick of time. Sort of.

It is at this point that our helicopter arrives. It attempts to suppress the trolls and their entourage, and the trolls choose to eat the damage, soaking it all. But that is good, because it prevents Joe, who killed all but one on the northern side of the compound with his car, from being outnumbered. The mook left alive throws a grenade and Joe throws it right back, landing it at the mook's feet. Voortrekker throws a flashbang at the technical trucks, which are now manned by three mooks and all firing on Hammer's old position. It is mostly ineffective.

>>54402675
Voortrekker's IED goes off and the blast area is on fire, in more ways than one. Suppressive fire is all over the place and he's lucky to get out in one piece, with three seperate sources of fire converging on the breach. Hammer manages to eliminate the men on the technicals shooting at her position, and Voortrekker tosses a gas grenade after bargining with the isolated two in the northeast that it's not worth it, and that they'll leave them alive if they lay down their arms. A stalemate ensues as Joe attempts to head down the entryway before having to turn back, Voortrekker is pinned down outside the breach, and Marv is trying to reach Joe's position but Joe's about 80M away from him. The tank fires at Hammer's previous residency, knocking down the largest building on the north end, but it's empty save for a drug chemist living inside.

We're close. We're deadly close. The suppressive fire lets up for just a second. Voortrekker sees his way through. The enemies numbers have been brought into parity, and they haven't popped their drugs yet. We can taste the hundreds of thousands of loot inside their base.

Hammer notices a single hand heading out of the top of the compound. It's a flare gun. She makes a called shot to shoot the gun, at a -8. She misses. The flare goes off, Ares Unseen are on their way, all is lost. The team immediately begins prepping for extraction - but Joe crashed his car, the tank is now free to shoot at the helicopter, which has landed behind their walls to avoid main cannon fire, and there's suppressive fire on the northern end of the compound. Marv can't reach the rest of the team due to having to pass through it, and starts heading southwest, so the helicopter can fly low-and-slow to pick him up. Hammer thinks she's going to walk home with their RPC cloak on. Voor and Joe have no idea how they're getting out of this.

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>>54402675
With a break in the suppressive fire, Voor heads through his breach, making a gymnastics roll of three to jump ontop of the tank. He uses his monowhip to open the tank's hatch, screaming at the two men inside to get out or die. The men choose to die. Voor takes a revolver bullet to the face unscathed as one of them uses their magical combat drug. Hammer and Joe hear what Voor is doing and begin converging north of the tank in order to hop in if he actually steals the thing. Voor drops down into the main compartment of the tank and uses his monowhip, splitting his dicepool, to take out the two tankdrivers... But the one who'd used the magic combat drug burns a point of edge to use a dead man's trigger. Literally, pulling a high explosive grenade out of his pocket and pulling the trigger, at the very end of the initiative pass. Voortrekker burns an edge in kind to slice and throw the man's hand out of the tank. It's his now. His forever. Only one problem: Voor is a gnome and can't actually both see to drive and reach the pedals. So he just steps on the gas and wings it, driving the tank 'forward' towards the northern house. It bursts through the plascrete wall and keeps going, as Marv hops in the helicopter after grabbing the laying rocket launcher from the team he'd killed.

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>>54402708
Joe and Hammer both make the gymnastics roll to hop in the tank, Joe taking the driver's seat as they floor it. One more problem, however: The enemy still had one RPG left, and decides to use it on their commandeered tank. Full of ammunition like tank shells. And Joe fails the dodge roll, before Hammer uses edge to grab the wheel and jerk it to the side, dodging as well.. And the team drives away, just a minute in front of Ares reinforcements.

And that's how we stole a tank from Ares. It was. Awesome.

Can you turn ally spirits into great forms, or give them the powers of great forms?

>>54402950
Yes. You need to know the ritual to enhance a spirit to a great form one; and you need to mod your ally's formula before performing the ritual.

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>>54403005
Excellent. Time to give my personal dryad regeneration

Is the Regeneration power vampires get broken or am I missing something?

>>54403217
Called Shot Vitals inflicts damage they can't regenerate.

>>54403217
They don't get regen until they pay for it, and they can't pay for it until two months pass in-game.

>>54403239
In a hypothetical connect-the-dots kind of way, that might be true, but I wouldn't suggest any and all Called Shot: Vitals, with bonus damage, is always direct-to-grey-matter pulping action. Plus, it's not the only thing to prevent regen.

>weapon foci, combat spells, most critter or adept powers, or Drain
All of these work, too.

>>54401834
Still one of my favorite breast expansion artists.

I just can't get enough breast expansion.

Is there any way you can expand the types of spirits you can summon and bind?

>>54404102
Forbidden Arcana, Mastery Qualities.

>>54402716
you stole a tank

yep you guys are African mercenaries

good story anon

>>54402697
>but it's empty save for a drug chemist living inside.
And his dog. RIP ;_;

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>>54401841
The schtick is a bit strong in the first episodes, then it dials back a tad, then goes hard back up after a while.

>>54404223
we stole a flying submarine once

>>54404148
Nothing that doesn't require you to give up Spellcasting or Binding or whatever, huh?

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>>54405297
>flying submarine
Do go on...

>>54405297
>flying submarine
So, like, an airship that can dive under the water?

>>54405410
Wrong thread, faggot.

>>54405426
Nigga that's some old copypasta, he's a shitposter that shows up every other month or so, spams that in a bunch of threads then gets banned for being a massive faggot.

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>>54405297
>flying submarine
like where this is going

>>54405380
Not as much of storyteller as tank-annon
But to put it short
Infiltrate this facility that was experimenting on technos by impersonating both the next batch of technos and the Johnsons that pay out the bounties.
Turns out the submarine they were using for transportation was also a plane and we found out when the crew began lift off and asked for belts to be tighten.
So after we infiltrate the facility, steal combat armor, assault riffles and a pack of real beef jerky we free what technos are alive.
Let them have their way with the facility and decided to hack the flying submarine for our escape vehicle. Ain't no tracking us down while 500 meters underwater.
Sold it to a vory Tzar we have as a contact
.>>54405390
Dunno but it could deploy wings to fly and get them back in to submerge
Based on some old russian design I've been told

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>>54405368
You want to break the game, you need to accept some limitations.

>>54405525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_submarine
more like the bastard child Airbus A380 and the Red October

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>>54405617
this....I need to get me one of this.

>>54405608
Gaining another spirit type or two isn't game-breaking.

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>>54399049
>D.C. office building
>Robot commits "suicide"

Bullshit. That robot recorded something it was not supposed to know. We need a technomancer to get into it's harddrive and recover the paydata.

>>54401271
I've little idea what that is.
It apparently is a doom mod, so seems appropriate.

>>54405913
It is considering that before FA you couldn't gain any extra spirit types.

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>>54398675
A character I called Legion. Originally, he was researcher for a AA who stumbled into some shit he was never meant to see - experiments in erasing subjects' memories and then uploading new memories and entire personalities. Like personafixes, but permanent overwrites instead of temporary overrides.

Let's be real here - he knew he was fucked after seeing that. So, in the time before he was found out and disappeared, he did the best thing he could figure out for how to survive this. See, Legion was a huge fucking nerd.

So, he made as perfect of a copy of his own personality as he could manage and encoded it in a variety of formats - personafix, drone personality software, and so on. He set up a decentralized network of servers to store a series of redundant copies of memories. And then, from then on, anyone running a Legion personafix, any drone running Legion personality software, and so on? They all uploaded details of any events they encountered, anything they did, in simsense, in trideo, even just written accounts, causing the Legion entity to keep growing, keep living.

Legion appeared repeatedly in the game. A street samurai whose personality got burned out running Legion full-time. A non-sapient but high-Pilot vehicle running Legion personality software. Even a digital ghost made of a baby AI fused with a copy of the personality.

Where's the original Legion? Maybe dead. Maybe stuck in a corporate blacksite somewhere. But Legion, and the many legionnaires who served as its eyes, its hands? That's the most powerful character I made, because even if you kill one legionnaire, Legion is still there.

In mechanical terms, Legion was a burned-out street samurai/rigger hybrid running a personafix all day every day with a vehicle and several drones also running that personality software. He had a major Contact with the Legion organization. Later, once the sam and his bots got destroyed, the replacement was a digital ghost in a drone body.

How the fuck can we get CGL to sell the license anons? I'm tired of that half ass team ruining SR.

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>>54398675

Psionic Unarmed MysAd.

13 Dodge Dice
18 Armor, 25 Soak.
17 Unarmed Dice at Chargen, 13P Damage
4d6+13 Init

Also had invis. Because, you know, MysAd.

All of this at Chargen. No drugs. Pure powers.

Gif related.

>>54407563
Get a deniable ops team to break into the CGL headquarters and extract the license for SR

>>54407680
I can see the headlines now:

Real life Shadowrun saves Shadowrun

>>54407563

Unfortunately unless someone like Notch just offers them a bag of money for more than it's actually worth, they aren't moving on it.

They put in minimal effort and get money out of it through licensing games and half-assing books.

>>54407717
Unfortunately before I even posted I knew this. I guess I'm just yelling down the hallway out of frustration.

>>54407563
Calling it now, Starfinder is gonna crush them so bad they have to sell the license.

At least that's the singular shred of non-existent hope I cling to.

>>54407563
>>54407680
>>54407707
>>54407717
You do know that it's Topps that owns the property and licenses it out to Catalyst, right? Microsoft has the video game rights (that they licensed to one of Weisman's companies, who sub-licensed to Harebrained), Topps owns everything else, which they have licensed to CGL. I think the situation is the same for BattleTech/MechWarrior.

Catalyst couldn't give you the license if they wanted to; at best they could allow you to produce things under their license, or return the license entirely to Topps for them to redistribute. And they signed an undisclosed but 'long-term' agreement in 2013 when 5e came out, so it's not going anywhere.

>>54407717
Paradox bought White Wolf with their EU4 money, maybe they could buy the SR license too.

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>>54407869
>Shadowrun Corporate GSG

>>54407857
Fuck. Well, I guess I just gotta go back to praying for cyberpunk 2021. Or pray that starfinder is worth while.

>>54407869
Shadowrun turn based, 4x, crpg

12/10 would play until eyes bled.

>>54408024
No no, they legit bought White Wolf, V:tM is getting a 5th edition, Paradox basically gave White Wolf a blank check to do as they please.

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So /srg/ slightly new to the system and i have a question. just how would I go about turning my Ares Roadmaster into a crash vehicle

>>54408086
And White Wolf is promptly fucking it all up of course.
Paradox is sadly letting their special child play on the highway with know helmet.

>>54408086
Fuck man. Shitty systems get all the love.

>>54408143
Joe you should've taken 24-32P damage from that crash but the GM was nice and halved it at least

>>54408143
What do you mean by crash vehicle? Like in the medical sense? or literally a battering ram?

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I'd climb the Eiger.

>>54408250
I think she'd be the one doing the mounting.

>>54408250
Tranny threads are for /b/

>>54408250
I hope you fall down and die

>>54396191
I'm pretty sure it's on purpose. Everyone knows that Hans Brauckhaus is Llofwyr. But they also know that there are at least a half dozen body doubles who have the authority to hire 3rd parties on behalf of the corp. It's all a mind game so you never know if Hans is just Hans, or if Hans is a fucking dragon.

>>54408186
Oh i know should've probably died there I will be thankful to the GM for it for a long while
>>54408143
literally a battering ram that won't kill me

>>54408180
It's just White Wolf being White Wolf. Their bastard child Onyx Path is currently performing the amazing feat of tearing down Scion to it's base, building up the fluff and crunch again, and ending up with something even worse than the unplaytested Exalted 2e homebrew they published as Scion 1e. But at least the release dates are slipping, so maybe it's stillborn and Kickstarter got scammed again.

>>54408345
>>54408186

>>54408345
Well for starters, passenger protection system rating-however much fuckin money you can dump into it. Then a liberal amount of praying for good rolls. Vehicle collisions are one of the many areas that CGL refused to clarify and fix.

>>54408345
>>54408369
IIRC there's a ramming plate (or some mod like that) that does something as well. I don't remember what though.

>>54408369
would armor plating help with the whole crashing thing or would it make it worse

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>>54408143
Rigger 5.0 has a crash plate that you can weld to the front of your car to go medieval on fuckers.

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>>54408250
I'd claim the Glory.

>>54408447
I highly recommend you use cold-sim rigging and not be in the vehicle if you're going to ram shit like an absolute madman

>>54408438
No, the vehicles body rating works against you in determining damage, and it's armor is only protection for the vehicle itself. IE it's better to hit a wall in a Dodge Scoot than an armored tank Roadmaster.

As a passenger you have to resist damage equal to the vehicle's body with a Body + Armour - 6AP roll

>>54408320
It makes sense. If everyone knows that Hans Brackhaus is Lofwyr, then Lofwyr knows everyone knows Hans Brackhaus is Lofwyr.

So he takes full advantage by having a few dozen Hans Brackhauses running around with vaguely draconic features (either from being drakes or just modified through surgery) running all sorts of crazy errands probably with orders to imply that they are the real Lofwyr as they do so.

It'd be so good at flushing out assassins that i'd be surprised if any of them actually were him.

>>54408486
But you see here where's the fun in it unless you're there yourself, but i'll keep that in mind.

>>54408477
wish they gave you the option to fuck her

Who here was stupid enough to purify the shrine spirit?

>>54408477
> black hair
> red eyes
> resting bitch face
Literally every 14 year-old's goth vampire character

>>54401658
larger version of this?

>>54408625
Look, Anon, just because your ability to feel joy died the same time as your childhood dreams doesn't mean you have to resent the youth who are still capable of feeling awe and wonder.

>>54408486
>>54408554
This is your best bet Anon. CGL didn't want to be bothered with balancing vehicles so they made it impressively hard to use them as ramming weapons sans cold sim. Which I'm sure was an ass end oversight, like most exploits in their system.

>>54408707
I don't even really like using the phrase oversight to be honest, because I feel that insinuates they double check their work. Which they absolutely do not.

>>54408707
Yeah after thinking it over i'll probably end up going with a secondary vehicle buffed up to be a moving slab of metal and simrig it

>>54408784

>>54408707
>>54408536
>>54408447
>>54408406
>>54408369
>>54408186
>>54408206

thank you for the advice it's been fairly helpful

>>54408784
Not a bad move. It's like a legal assault cannon in terms of damage.

>>54408832
No problem

>>54398321
I'm not going to be the voice of dissent, because everyone else is pretty right.

AI make pretty poor deckers however you build it. Still, I'm going to beat my head on the wall a bit and give some advice for making an AI that might not be a complete embarrassment.

First things first. If you do decide to make an AI, ask your GM if there's time before the run. If the answer is two or more days, then you're in 'luck.' You can skip out on the lifestyle cost for your first optimization and that saves a few karma.

Now, you're basically going to need Exceptional Entity to start with. Most of your karma is going to go into getting lots of Willpower and Logic with some Cha and Int for later on. Put depth and edge at 2 each. You want to be able to take at least one stray Crash Program before going into Realignment.

Lean into Sleaze hacking as much as possible for both skills and your Codeslinger choice. You're going to be at least 30 karma in before you can start to thumb your nose at Essence loss and you are going to have lots of Firewall regardless of choices here.

This is because you really only have two choices for your starting device. The Little Hornet or the Emissary. In both cases you're going to want to make it home, and cover up the weaknesses with your optimization bonus. Also, research what the host usually runs IC-wise. A surprise IC that goes against a bad attribute can just ruin your day.

Your first 50 karma are going to go to Munge (30 karma) so that you can bloat yourself to 12 Essence from draining Sprites made by your Technomancer contact whose purpose is to feed you Essence in exchange for favors and/or NuYen, and a few programs. The exact choices depend on the deck. Hornet, Smoke-and-Mirrors and Baby Monitor. Emissary, add in Virtual Machine. Then save up for Low Profile. Then you may start hacking outside hosts.

>>54408891
The difference being that you can take an assault cannon inside or put it inside a truck afterwards, it doesn't roll down the street smashed to shit and covered in blood.

>>54409018
Obviously. It's also very situational.

>>54409018
Just grab a sham-wow. Cleans the blood right up.

>>54409018
I could always just run through a river to clean it up not like its going to change in africa

>>54408539
It's also really good at avoiding assassins entirely, because any assassin crazy enough to try a dragon will do the basic underworld research to know that there might be a dozen Hans and they're all identical in appearance, activity, and personality and only one of them is the real target. It'd be crazy to even try, since the rest would be massively on guard after the first attempt.

ITT: stupid, gimmicky ideas for runner teams

>The IRA: a team of Irish riggers who accomplish every mission by either ramming their enemies or car bombing

>>54409112
You're playing in Africa? Then being inconspicuous is the last of your concerns. Happy hunting and hmhvv is gonna be the end of your entire crew.

>>54409132
IRA? Sounds more like Muslims to me.

>>54409132
>how to get the whole group bankrupt in a single run every run

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>>54409087
Fully tricked out can slams into your headquarters and squashes the guards into fine red pulp. From a speaker inside the vehicle comes - Hey guys, Billy Mays here!

>>54409171
>Allahu Akbork: A team of Islamic Swedes who accomplish every mission by letting the enemy get what they want, claiming a moral victory and raking in karma

>>54408250
I want Eiger to cuddle and hold hands with me.

>>54409171
Read up on "the troubles".

>>54409241
Who says they use their own cars?

show up to surgery drunk

>>54409112
If your GM doesn't play all the uninfected as goblinized (outside of South Africa) your GM is full of shit.

>>54409132
Obviously taking place in Tír na nÓg right?

>>54409250
Lmao kudos Anon. Genuinely cracked the fuck up at that one.

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>>54409137
if it helps any i'm the guy playing Joe >>54402675

Let's say I'm your average Street Sam, and am somehow infected with HMHVV. I have sub-1 essence. and am about to become a ghoul. Should I abandon the character, or is it possible to survive if I get my essence upkeep?

>>54409311
Which is a thought. How violently opposed to the immortal elvish state are the UK unionists in Ireland? Is there any information on what they're up to?

>>54409265
Kek

>72 dragons await you in eternity

>>54409361
I think its like Africa where there's a little bit of bare-bones lore but you'd be better off just crafting your own version of the area.

>>54409241
You know how they made a big deal about car theft not being profitable? Well, that only assumes you try to profit by straight selling the cars to a chopshop.

>>54409287
well either
A) The streets are full with rigger adapted vehicles that you could easily hack into
or
B) They will be stealing cars and manual ramm
Since A is unlikely and B would be doable once I assume its C) Use their own vehicle and loose money every run
Car bombing is fine though

>>54409439
You don't need a rigger adaptation to remote-control a car.

>>54409270
After or before he butt fucks you?

>>54409439
See the key is to get a drone that can manually ram and survive the impact.

>>54409464
>he
I'm sorry you can't stand the sight of a strong troll woman. cuck

>>54409478
That just have me an idea

>Get a huge class drone
>Deck it out like a battle bot
>Bunch of bells and whistles but all it does is ramming speed smash mother fuckers into walls like people pancakes
>Never clean it
>Insist constantly that it's a finely tuned highly sophisticated killing machine with many nuances that you can't bear to explain all in one sitting
>???
>Profit

>>54409459
thats..... a good point
so why Riggers instead of car stealing street sams?
>>54409478
well if you are gonna do this with drones just visit your local GOD HQ and steal few Angels.
Then bomb the Tirs to hell. I'll even help you

>>54409558
Riggers are still going to be better at it. And since it's their main modus of operation, they need to be good at it.

>>54409558
Because to best steal a car you need a decker to get the marks, spoof commands, and then turn off the wireless so that the rightful owner can't (hopefully) reboot and take back some control.

Is there any personal flight equipment anywhere? You know, to use the Flight skill with? A Hang glider? A wingsuit?

>>54409632
4e Spy Games had a Wingsuit and one with Jet packs, don't know if 5e ported it

>>54409641
I hear this a lot, did anything cool from 4e get ported?

>>54409641
I coulda sworn there was some in Shadowrun but I think I was thinking of Eclipse Phase books.

Honestly considering theres a specialization for BASE Jumping and all that crap how is there not at least a wing suit?

>>54409631
so for maximum effect you need a decker and bunch of 1 logic street sams with ares alpha blowing everything in the wau in a stolen van that have steel plates wielded on it to ram the target
best IRA is Ork IRA

>>54409663
Or rules for a parachute (or price for that matter).

>>54409685
For maximum 'fun' you want the street sam to be an AI, the setup should be doing stun to the drone, and the drone should be covered in UMM, connected to the vehicle by cable so as to best share the Depth based defense.

Granted, the crew that does this isn't doing much else, but that's a side matter.

>>54409361
>>54409311
>>54409416
I mean, Thorn is an example of an Irish Elf that absolutely *hates* Tír na nÓg.

>>54409631
IRL cars are often taken apart for parts after they are stolen and I imagine if you wanted to do the same in Shadowrun you'd have to do the same, because you can't just put everything inside a faraday cage and call it a day. But Shadowrun is a game about shadowrunning not about Grand Theft Auto

>>54409648
No. CGL is too busy shitting out special snowflake and magic books that no one asked for.

>>54409797
Fluff talk characters are often snowflakes for sake of being snowflakes though. Only a small number of them are actually special in a real way because of who/what they are or their power, like say Orange Queen.

>>54409797
Who?

>>54409800
I said best for a reason. You don't need the decker at all, but having one gives you lots of options, especially if the car doesn't have a convenient wireless off switch or has had the manual controls removed.

And being able to take it means that you could then steal ownership and pay for a bit of license plate cleaning and you've just saved yourself on gear.

Or you could dump it to a contact with good loyalty for a flat percentage no questions asked as an emergency funds button, or even sell it whole if that could get you more than parts to the right people.

>>54409356
You lose a point of Essence when you're infected. You're already dead.

>>54409874
Jackpointer. Worked for ARGUS and MET2000 before going freelance. Does occasional work for anti-Tir groups

>>54410229
>Jackpointers

You mean faggots?

>>54410425
I love Bull openly talking shit to Laughing Man, I'm sure it has nothing to do with him being in the writing credits of the book its in.

>>54410022
Sure. Plus thinking about this actually gave me some ideas for this run I wanted to do, where they steal the car of a Junior Executive at the show where he unveils it.

>>54410485
Nothing at all.

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Activating Players
A common complaint about investigative scenarios is that they “railroad” players into tightly following a slavishly predetermined story path. Although you rarely see the opposite complaint voiced, a significant number of groups flail in confusion when not steered in an obvious
direction.
Let players weigh options for as long as the discussion seems lively and fun. If you see the
group get frustrated and unable to make a collective choice, gently insert yourself into the
discussion. Summarize the various suggestions made and direct the discussion toward a conclusion. Guide the players in eliminating choices without nudging them to a preferred answer. This detachment is easier to attain when you don’t settle on one.
Remind the players that the only way forward in a mystery scenario is to gather more
information. When things get static, refer to the characters’ drives. Ask them which choices
before them most suit their specific drives.
Be ready for moments where players feel overwhelmed, either because there are too many choices to choose between or, more likely, no obviously risk-free choice. Nudge them onward by invoking their drives. Remind them that they’ve been trained by the OV as problem-solvers.
Perhaps unlike the players, the characters are used to forming hypotheses, testing them by
gathering information, and revising their theories, and moving forward. They respond to
dilemmas by breaking them down into steps. With a little coaching, they’ll quickly internalize
this problem- solving methodology. Your players will learn to take the initiative, abandoning the “wait for clues” passivity trained into them as they were run through more predetermined scenarios.
> sage advice from Gumshoe right there

>>54397779
Fuck I wish every goddamn game released stuff like this.

I hate the overproduced garbage books the TTRPG industry are trying to sell us these days.

>>54410740
Why does that sound so seductive?

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Would you fuck the APEX predator?

Stupid question:

Cyberfingers. Do they still reduce Essence if you've already replaced the entire arm? Chrome Flesh and Hard Targets don't explicitly say.

>>54411719
It wouldn't make sense to.

>>54411719
do they have a capacity cost? If yes they use the cyberarm capacity

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>>54411719
If anything has a capacity cost, that means it can be installed into a larger piece of cyberware. Cyberfingers have a cost of [1], so you can stick them 15 of them in an arm, 4 in a hand, or 4 in each foot if you're feeling exotic.

>>54411775
>>54411784
>>54411821
Cheers. The idea of an emergency credstick cyberfinger is amusing to me.

>>54411844
Or a mono-whip. Mono-friggin-whip

>>54411925
And because it's already a cyberarm, you won't be as bothered when you cut off all your other fingers! It's perfect.

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>>54411968
Worth it. Ask hackerman

So, my runner is interested in style.
And the sundress looks way cuter if the kevlar vest is over it than under.
How do I get away with this?

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>>54412200
Check Run & Gun. Who needs Kevlar vests when you can just buy a bulletproof sundress.

>>54412200
>How do I get away with this?
in what way?
mechanically? Just put the vest over the sundress
socially? Say that this a) is fashion and b) you want to feel safe
fashion-wise? tough luck

>>54412200
Get a designer bulletproof vest as a fashion accessory.

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>>54412308
Honestly, in certain circles I could see that being fashionable, considering all the other weird shit.

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>>54408784
>>54408832

listen here Chummer, why stop with cars ?

Get a plane wit that ram plate and ram those corporate pigs out of the free blue sky !

Or if you work on a smaller (or bigger) budget, get a MT7 soars, ask your GM if you can add some body and a ram plate and get capitalis sheep out off your free sunlight via kinetic missile bombardment.

Stab people with your glying vehicle, go all "capitan harlock" on them. !

>>54412288
Look, the vest is important, it looks cute.
>>54412308
>>54412310
Hopefully this gets me past suspicious looks.

>>54412449
Shadowrun canonically has designer gas masks with no social penalties. You'll be fine.

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>>54412410
I had a player once try to convince me to let him steal a transport drone to crash into a building - I told him he'd be better off hijacking a car, because they don't have a max Body of 6 - but no, I was the killjoy for describing how the thing crashes into the door and bends it out of shape rather than having it explode the entire building.

>>54412449
Pay to have an expensive brand logo sewn into the vest, along with some cosmetic changes like a high collar or embroidery. Wear "fake" night vision/smartlink goggles about the neck or forehead and keep a few magazines visible on the outside of a matching purse. Call it HTR-Chic and look disgusted with or embarrassed for people that don't recognize the cutting edge style you're rocking.

>>54412626
That's why you use a drone with an atmospheric rocket engine (aka a jet)

The garuda would be Optimal of course, add contact grenades, a ram plate and drive into the next best thing with sonic speed.
20P damage alone from the collision if you use the non-retarded ramming table from the CRB.

But by the laws of how physics work and the ramming modification, a full speed ramming garuda cshould do well and just 40 P damage.

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>>54412714
Well yeah, but he wanted to do it on the fly and specifically did a Matrix perception for "passenger transport drones, you know the air-taxi ones" in the area.

>>54412849
well, to ram something you need speed, not something that carries people around.

that's why the Garudas 6J speed is a blis and might as well get a dragons panties in a twist, if coming directly at him with an armed warhead..

>>54392349
>copyright/IP-law/'regulations'/various Statist bullshit canonically still exist in Sjhadowrun
>it's da megacorps/capitalism's fault
I hate it so much.

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>>54392349

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Is a Burnout-Adept Getaway Driver with 2.08 Essence and 19 dice to drive his Hyundai Shin-Hyung to much of a special snowflake at chargen?

>>54413197
nvm, its actually 20. Forgot that Chummer doesn't show wifi-bonuses

>>54408004
>cyberpunk 2021
2077

>>54413197
Is he a pixie?

>>54413299
No, plain human bean

>>54408995
>AI make pretty poor deckers however you build it.
I'm consistently disappointed that where you could do consistently average to slightly cool or useful things with AIs in 4e, they purposefully plugged those points of usefulness in 5e and made everything worse.

>>54413324
You can make decent-to-good Streetsams though, thats sorta cool for an AI.

>>54413318
But is he a real hero?

>>54409356
Your only hope with HMHVV III or II is to find a cybermancy clinic and get your ass stapled together. HMHVV I you would actually have a chance to survive. Either way, if you do survive and are infected, your bioware is going to be fucked and your cyberware stands a chance of rejection.

>>54413341
But when the stock thing about AI is that they have no concept of what the real world is like, it's kinda nonsense.
>As creatures of the Matrix, most AIs are at best ignorant of the defining aspects of the physical world; things like gravity, friction, and inertia have no meaning to them. Some AIs have never even heard of meatspace or simply refuse to believe it exists. Even if their original programming involved interaction with the physical world in some way, they may not fully grasp the entirety of it.

>>54413341
Mind to elaborate on that? i'm kinda interested now.

>>54413422
>Cyberbrain that can communicate
>Hurr durr what's a Newton?

>>54413571
What does that have to do with the bullshit that one of the very few ways AI can work is by interacting exclusively with the supposedly-foreign physical plane, but they are garbage on their home ground?

>>54413640
I am saying that this particular bit of fluff is idiotic.

>>54402716
Reminds me of the time I got a free, modded and really nice grenade launcher.
It was apparently used once, dropped once and half burried under rubble once.
That was like my 4th or 5th run and it went baaaaaad... but I got a free grenade launcher and we got out alive, so I'm not complaining

>>54413722
I'm sure there's a lot of people out there who don't believe in the Resonance, despite the Foundation being, you know, the foundation of the entire architecture of the Matrix. And even though you may know what a Newton is, that doesn't mean that you're suddenly able to understand how to live life when you live by the second and not the pulse, and have to move around a meatbody and interact with objects as they come up instead of touching everything in a host at once.

>>54413816
And yet there are hundreds and thousands of hosts where programs imitate real-life physics. Not to mention you grew "out of" the literal internet, which should endow you at least with a cursory understanding of humanity. Besides, the resonance is an esoteric force, nothing tangible (except if you are a technomancer and even then it is about as tangible as matrix-magic goes).
An AI not believing in meatspace is the equivalent of a character in real life not believing in the Matrix. If you want to play a literal hillbilly, that's fine, there's negative qualities for being an uneducated jackass, just don't make it a mandatory feature for playing one.

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>>54413528
AIs with Pilot heritage are able to subsitute a fuckton of Attributes for Depth, including Pilot.
Pilot on Anthro-Drones defines Agility of the Arm, which can be further enhanced by the Cyberlimb enhancements.
Grab a SK Direktionssekretär.
So, 9 AGI in the Arm, 6 Skill + 2 Specialisation + Smartlink Autosoft gives you up to 19 Dice to shoot shit. Anthrodrones are able to wear Armor, you have quite a few INI dice because you are rigging while being jumped in and you are also immune to stun damage (except SnS).
Just forget Building something like this without using Karmagen, Prio fucks AIs over.
(Note: you Need to make the drone your home node to get the additional shit that this entitles you, and there is also another positive Quality for AIs that is basically very useful for this but i forgot which one.

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>>54413996
It's not a mandatory feature. By fluff the majority of true AI aren't well-versed in the rules of the physical world (a host may imitate real-life physics, but so does Gary's Mod; imitation is not reality, because we don't have the real processing power to nest universes, not to mention that you can step into an entirely different set of physics or simply one with almost-imperceptible differences if you want), and there's Real World Naivete Negative Quality for 8 karma if you want to play an emergent AI from a program that doesn't have anything to do with meatspace.

>>54413422
This is associated with a negative Quality.
Buy it off / ask your GM to Switch it to something else.

>>54414169
>Protosapient Racial: Real World Naiveté
>Metasapient Racial: Real World Naiveté
>Xenosapient Racial: Real World Naiveté

They mean default.

>>54414180
Ah, there you go then. I had to look it up myself. Silly that the fluff mentions "Most AIs", when it is clearly optional but oh well.

>>54414247
>>54414180
It's default for the AI that come only from the Matrix (only one kind of which is actually playable), and 8 karma is not a hefty price to pay if you don't want to actually roleplay as something from cyberspace.

>>54414287
Because most AI don't buy it off? Protosapients have no need to do it, Ghost knows whether a Xenosapient is interested in the physical world enough to explore and understand it, and Metasapients start off not knowing the real world rules and cause and effect in the physical.

>>54414287
Don't fret.
On top of having one of the most ugly covers i have witnessed in several decades of playing Pen&Paper RPGs, Data Trails has also a horrible layout.
You can't find shit in it, without using notes.
Looking up all the rules for my above mentioned Streetsam Drone (back when there was no convenient "Google it" possibility because nobody in the Forums bothered with it) was a royal pain in the ass.

>>54414169
why does the AI have such a fantastic ass?

>>54402675
cheers

>>54414556
Because it can read your physiological responses to stimuli, and search the Matrix for forms to mimic until it finds what you really like

>Select your penis or penises from the bucket

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>>54414556
Because the Decker gets lonely on long evenings, and convincing him that 3dpd gives her a sense of purpose while she's compiling.

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>>54414556
Because its boobs don't have to obey the laws of physics
>Flesh bodies, how do they work?

NEW THREAD
>>54415039
>>54415039

Where can I find the shapeshifter errata?

>>54397233
extraterritoriality is a dumb thing anyway because they have so much more power by simply leeching off of the state