Critical Role Thread

How do you watch Critical Role (and similar shows like RollPlay)?

Podcasts I understand since you can listen to them while commuting, but video is a whole different matter.

Do you sit and watch it for hours? Do you have it up on a second monitor while you do something else? Do you have it playing in the background and you occasionally switch back to it?

>>54309797
>Do you sit and watch it for hours?
yeah
>Do you have it playing in the background and you occasionally switch back to it?
yes, usually i'll browse 4chan while it plays in a different tab. when something funny or tense is happening i'll watch it

i hope everyone is enjoying their weekly virtue signaling fan art

>>54309864
>>54309897
oops

>>54309864
CR falls into my work hours on Friday. I put it on the second screen and listen to it half-assedly while coding and fiddling with hardware. If I miss something and the cast bursts into laughing - I hit that sweet Alpha's 'Roll back 30 seconds' button and watch the missed part again.

>>54309797
Darin De Paul is guesting tonight. What do you guys think he'll play?

>>54309864
I paint my models. Just watching it is fucking boring.

>12 minutes late

they've had a bad habit of being behind schedule lately

you know, people always say skip the intro, but Sam's sponsor shilling is always funny as hell

>>54310233
>Darin De Paul
who?

>>54310404
Voice actor for Reinhardt from Overwatch and Judge Dredd from the recent cartoon. Expect big boasting brute with all traits of the 'Big Ham' trope.

What's their current quest? Prime trammel? Is this so they can meet Ioun?

>>54310577
My guess is the NPC they're going to meet that has the key to Ioun's plane is the guest player for tonight.

>>54310577
ioun is the brain behind the prime trammel i think, they're still in the meeting gods and figuring shit out phase

>>54310577
The prime trammel is basically so they can trap Vecna if they end up taking too long, and he actually becomes a god.

Knowing the way the rest of the party beyond Travis and Sam treat timed challenges, they're gonna need it since they're gonna take forever.

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What's the problem with the production today? The audio is all over the place.

>>54310681
somehow a show making a channel hundreds of thousands of dollars a month that has been going on for 2 years cant hire audio engineers that aren't complete retards

>>54310711
>hundreds thousands of dollars a month

nigger, are you serious? they're not payed NEARLY that much

>>54310754
the show makes geek and sundry hundreds of thousands a month from twitch subs alone, considering they have like 35-40 thousand, and i'd guess 90% of those are for critical role

>>54310768
Can't forget the Alpha thing

>>54310233
>What do you guys think he'll play?
Reinhardt. He'll just play Reinhardt. Guaranteed.

>>54310791
i'd be shocked if alpha brings in five thousand dollars a month in subs, that site is a fucking disaster

>>54310768
I think the last I remember them showing their sub count, it was ~32k people. Assuming they get the bare minimum of 50% of sub money given to them (odds are they get more of the cut OR have a deal set up with Twitch for G&S owners) they get at least $80,000 a month (before taxes).

I would suspect that most of that money goes into the G&S owner's pockets or gets invested back into the stage/sets.

If memory serves, they've gone through two different sound & set design crew members (a total of 6-9 people).

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I hope this arc isn't as gigantic as the conclave arc, would be awesome if they explore the planes more too, maybe going to sigil or the Infinite Staircase

>>54310854
There's not way this arc lasts as long as chroma conclave, matt has made it clear that vecna wont just sit back and wait for VM to come to him, he's the smartest villain they faced, and if they don't put things into action soon, they're gonna have to kill a god

why is marisha crying?

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>vax has the boots back

>>54310926
Gotta ham it up for the camera while Vax is talking about death.

>>54310854
Assuming you "begin" the arc with them going to the other corrupted ziggurat and meeting Delilah, we're on episode 5 or 6 of this arc so far. I'd imagine they talk to Ioun in this episode, probably go talk to Kord for Grog in the next one along with final preparation of the fight, and the next episode is the final fight with Vecna, and a "epilogue" episode where chat gets to ask the cast + crew 'behind the scenes' stuff and a battle royale with everyone at level 20.

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>>54310926
Vax scene was emotional

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>>54310952
>he will ask about sneak attack again

>>54310967
On the one hand, Marisha tends to cry or get sad/emotional at almost every emotional scene.

On the other, it's an interesting discussion about how a Revenant can ponder death, especially when they know that the completion of their goal will lead to their perma-death.

>>54310807
rekt

Okay this guy's pretty good. How do we substitute him for Marisha?

i love this

>>54311258
Seconded.

>>54310457
not even close

what is this thread even about? what the fuck is happening lmao

>>54311337
it's a twitch dnd show

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>>54311337

This dude is fucking awesome.

>>54311357
link?

>>54311372

twitch tv -> geek and sundry

>>54311358
Works as inspiration for my setting, thanks bro.

>>54311372
it's episdoe 105 of a 3-4 hour show. are you sure?

WAIT THE CHAT IS SAYING FUTURE SCANLAN WHAT DID HE SAY TO SUGGEST THIS I HAD TO ANSWER THE DOOR

i've never seen the show stolen by such a performance before, he's destroying every other guests they've ever had

>>54311387
If /tg/ says its great then I have to, don't I? Otherwise I will miss out on the memes.

>>54311411
check out the geek and sundry youtube channel

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It is basically a group of actors pretending to play D&D and people like it for some reason
>>54311337

This is perfect. This guest has watched every episode (he said so himself) and knows everything about them and has built it into his character. I love this.

>>54311404
He said something to the effect of, "I am your future."

I get the feeling he meant it less in a literal sense, and more in the metaphorical sense of, "the adventurers who survive their journeys."

>>54311404
>>54311443
I personally think he's just Scanlan's father.

just got here

who is this guest PC?

>>54311478

Darin De Paul. VA of Reinhardt in Overwatch. Self-admitted fan of Critical Role who has watched all the episodes.

the only reason i keep watching this is for the mostly great voice acting these people bring to their characters.

Why is there a guy in a fucking suit? He looks old as shit what the fuck?

>>54311512

Are you retarded? Read the fucking thread.

>>54311526
>everyone gets to ask who he is but when I do it I am the retarded one
Fuck me

>>54311512 see >>54311498

>>54311560
Why is he a fan of this? doesn't he have a life? He should be taking care of her daughter or something.

Why is he playing a young adult's hobby?

He is very charismatic

>>54311591
>Why is he playing a young adult's hobby?

He's been playing for 30+ years, presumably since he was a young adult.

Good question, dumbass.

marisha is shiiiit

>>54311591
He's got a huge boner for theater and improvisation, has shitload of experience in both and D&D alike, so CR is like the best thing for the guy. He actually was behind the scenes on Trial of the Take episodes.

i hope this scene ends soon, not because i don't like it but because i want this to end on a high note and not be drawn out

>>54311666
>High note
Yeah about that

>>54311666

Matt granted your wish.

>>54311614
Its over? This was shit guys. BYE!

The white woman skeleton looked like she was reading a script

>>54311698
where did the voice come from?

of all the episodes to be having guests it's got to be the best one in a while and i can't focus... ;__;

>>54311666
Well, looks like you got your wish.

I think one part of Vecna's plan just got revealed: he doesn't know the spell/ritual to make him a god, but Ioun does, and the person who knows Ioun's location is Sprigg, the guest NPC. So Vecna's about to drop a lieutenant on their location to kidnap the little Gnome and whisk him back to Vecna's lair for some good, old-fashioned mind rape torture.

>>54311710
>taking a break
>be back soon

you are an absolute retard and nothing you say matters. good riddance and never return

>>54311719
It's Vecna. He did a similar thing when the group first met him a few episodes back, talking in their heads all at once telepathically.

I think the only time Vecna actually spoke was the Counterspell from Scanlan to counter Vecna's Counterspell on Keyleth's Plane Shift.

Vecna said, "... What?"

>>54311719
vecna just used scry on grog and now he knows where sprigg, presumably the key to ioun, is

Ok, I popped in just as they entered spriggs house, what did I miss?

>>54311750
My guess he just scryed on the group as a whole, and Matt's going to handwave it by saying that Vecna's Scrying spell is older/better than the current version (which, admittedly, is probably true).

>$200 tickets for a dnd session that will probably be streamed for free

why

>>54311762
well i think i saw grog role a die for some reason, matt probably texted him to roll a saving throw for scry, and considering vecna is smart, he probably realized that grog had the highest chance to fail that saving throw

>>54311773
Autistic SJWs who want to see the cuck squad in person.

>>54311761
Prior to them getting to Sprigg's house?

> They plane shifted to Terra, the Earth Ashari's location, being the nearest location to the area of Sprigg's house, and spent the night there after talking w/ the Ashari there and warning them about Vecna.
> Vex gave the boots back to Vax while the two pondered the imminent mortality issue of Vax being on borrowed time as a Revenant.
> Next day, they Wind Walk'ed to the area where Sprigg's house is, and succeeded on some DC checks to find it and not get pummeled by traps set up outside the place.

>>54311788
Good to know, thanks.

>>54311779
That's possible too.

If so, it's possible that Vecna "saw" the curse on Grog where he has a -2 to all his saves because of the Deck of Many Things, and went like, "ooh, this'll be easy, let these bumbling idiots to all the leg work for me."

>>54311749
nah, he mocked them each time he casted power word kill and disintegrate

can you even defend against scrying from an epic level wizard? even if they had planned against it, what could they have done?

>>54311810
Encase all your hidden mcguffins in rooms of lead.

>>54311806
i hope matt is playing vecna like this, because VM have never really faced a smart villain of this magnitude before
raishan was smart, but there was only so much she could do, and i don't think she had huge ambitions

so far he's the best guest, and he seems like a swell guy

>this signal boost has no feminism bullshit

thank god

>>54311810
Honestly there's not a whole lot they could have done. The casters of the group (Pike and Keyleth) might know the spell Nondetection, which is meant to prevent Scrying stuff, but that might not work against Vecna's level of magic power.

>>54311810

i mean Scrying per the 5e phb is supposed to give a save, but it's probably some plot scry spell.

>>54311840

Based Darin.

>>54310926
Darrin DePaul said in character that speaking with Sun Trees is foolish; I laughed so hard when I saw her mouth gape open

>>54311831
My guess is Raishan was meant to be played as a wily backstabber whose main goal was to cure the soul curse inflicted upon her body, and was willing to do whatever it took to find said cure.

Vecna's goal is to become a god, and he's been very patient for a very long time. But now that he's on the move and "in public" about it, this is when he's at his most vulnerable. But it's an epic level Lich Wizard, so vulnerability is relative.

>>54311856

Guy who is a fan of the show and has watched every episode playing a "champion" of Ioun, Goddess of Knowledge.

I love how that played out.

IF he is future scanlan, how would you react?

>>54311846
i'm gonna go out on a limb but i think it's probably impossible for grog to save against vecna's dc 24 scry even rolling a 20, and i'm sure vecna knew that

>>54311846
I saw Travis roll for something but he wasn't asked to by Matt. He reacted negatively. Couldn't Grog be the target of a Scry, he couldn't resist it with a spell dc 23.

>>54311899
Matt has house ruled that nat 20's are auto-saves in most cases (usually on Saving Throws, not for skill checks), and nat 1's are auto-fails.

>>54311914
that's how i do it

>>54311914
that's started to change a bit recently though, especially against someone like vecna

So is Vecna just scrying every hour to see where they are? I'm sure grog cant resist it, but the timing seems meta-y

So when DePaul made the joke about the Sun Tree, did Marisha literally start tearing up because of that? How sensitive is she, geesh...

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>>54311938
Vecna has a godlike intelligence, you kind of have to resort to meta like timings to simulate that.

>>54311953
no i think she was tearing up about his rather tragic backstory

>>54311938
i mean, it makes sense

i like how matt's playing him but i was disappointed in the roleplaying. i've been dreaming of being vecna for years and matt made him sound kind of generic

>playing as a guest
>dm kills you before you get to do anything

ok

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>>54310020
What?

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oh shit this is getting good

>fly you fools

fucking kek

>>54312006
even if he dies immediately, he already stole the show

>>54311661
If I didn't mishear, didn't he literally play D&D with Mercer's parents back in the day as well?

>>54312009
the before and mid show fanart showcase is full of virtue signaling

>>54312006
He's just unconscious. Pike will touch him.

>>54312024
seriously? that's crazy

>>54311411
/tg/ as a "group" pretty decidedly does NOT think it is great, or even decent.

>>54312087
but then again, people on /tg/ rarely care about the popular opinion and mockery, seeing as we play tabletop roleplaying games

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the camera on the map is too fucking small. They really should do something like pic related

>>54312087
/tg/ is undecided about it. Some say it's good some like to nitpick and bitch. In the end who gives a fuck and let people decide if they want to watch it or not

oh wow, liam rolled an nat 20? that's insane. he's never done that before. and he's never lied about it

>>54312110
True shit, that's why it doesn't matter that "we" also hate everything.

>>54311411
It's ok, there's some bad moments in it (rather vanilla plot/storyline, Marisha is easily the worst member of the cast, Liam being pretty emo at times) but there's some good moments.

Probably the worst thing is that it's 105 episodes long, each being 3-5 hours in length.

>>54312134

Liam's lied about rolling a nat 20 before?

Matt's gone on record saying the only person to fudge rolls was Orion.

>>54312134
They are on the same table, I don't think he would lie like tibs did

>be Vax
>teleport behind you
>stabs you for 9999 dng
>nothing personel kid

>>54312148
>Matt's gone on record saying the only person to fudge rolls was Orion.

really? that's some shit talk

and oh yeah for fucking sure, liam is an attention and thinks he's the main character

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>>54312156
he did this shit with the kid that was fan of them

>>54312167
>anecdotal evidence
alright.

>>54312113
This happens with any remotely popular twitch stream. All important information is smaller than facecam. It's frustrating

>>54312152
>rolls against thordak
>immediately picks up the dice before laura can see
>"nat 20"

i call bullshit

according to critrole stats
nat 20s:
>vax 89
>percy 88
>vex 81
>grog 70
>keyleth 40
>scanlan 40

so either they are all 3 cheating or none of them are, they wouldnt be that close otherwise. Looks like a normal distribution, except it's odd that grog has fewer when he attacks so much

>>54312221
This doesn't factor in how many rolls the characters have made, the highest 20's belong to characters who roll the most.

>>54312221
it's not surprising vax has the most, considering how often he rolls with the boots of haste and luck

>>54312240
And always looking for traps and such

>>54312221
>the people who don't utilize an attack roll most turn hover around half
>everyone peaks around the same on skill roles (which I have to guess count into the stat)
>Liam with haste
Seems about right. Grog's issue is he's full melee (other than the two times he's used the javelins), so a good number of the bigger fights involves him just running toward the action.

>lol shape shifting is a "free action"

at least matt called her out on it

>keyleth not knowing how her spells work
>while confidently acting like she does

typical

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>Marisha BTFO for continuing to not know how her own fucking character works
All is good in the world.

whatever happened to grog's rhino helmet?

>>54312510
Probably in the Bag of Holding for now.

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>>54312510
I believe he is still it is still in his Bag of Holding somewhere but he's not wearing it.

>liam getting angry when people laugh at him for his dumb bullshit

>>54312554
i got dog piled on a youtube video with liam for saying he has anger issues

just fucking destroy these boots already

they got rid of a bad player but they wont get rid of a bad item?

>>54312379
It's fucking baffling. She's level 18. They've been on air for 2 years. They've been playing longer than that. FUCKING KNOW HOW YOUR GOD DAMNED SPELLS WORK!

>these marisha defenders in the chat

every fucking episode

>>54312575
The item's a carry-over from when they were in Pathfinder. Matt's gone on record saying that he wants to nerf the boots but doesn't want to do it mid-campaign.

He probably wants to make it more in line with the Boots of Speed in the 5th edition DMG, both in power and rarity. As-is it'd be a super rare or legendary item, being that it's 10 rounds of the Haste benefit without Concentration or the "wind down" penalty at the end of the 10 rounds.

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>>54312598

>>54312614
>paying so you can shit on marisha

who's the bigger cuck? she gets your sub money you know

>>54312614
>she plays the game therefore she's right

how much you want to bet that's someone who draws keyleth as a black transgender?

why does matt bother asking marisha questions when it would be faster just to use dndmagic

>>54312644
Not just a black transgender, but someone who wants to change Vax into a divine genderfluid ravenkin.

Or who wants to fuck Pike so hard she becomes the beautiful, black deep gnome she was supposed to be.

>>54312614

man there are people typing paragraphs defending her, which is kind of stupid considering how fast the chat moves.

>IF YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT KEYLETH THEN LEAVE THIS CHAT! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT MARISHA BECAUSE YOU AREN'T PLAYING
!

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>>54312632
m8 I could care less where my money goes.
I enjoy the show in spite of occasional distasteful actions or decisions by any of the players. I choose to support content I enjoy so that other content like it will be produced. That's how the adult world works.

>>54312598
It's the most frustrating part of the fanbase. You're literally not allowed to criticize anyone in their eyes.

gee wiz, it'd be a shame if these books were destroyed

i know, i'll turn into a fire elemental

>>54312174
He only knocked the kid out and told him to train up so he wouldn't die.

>>54312747

i mean the building is already on fire. can't hurt it all that much more.

>>54312699
It's hardly constructive criticism, so what's the point of giving it anyways? Does it slightly annoy me when she slows game play? Sure. Do I feel the need to post about it every time it happens? No, it's not doing anything to benefit the stream, people are just being autistic sperg-lords.

it's obviously an illusion

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Jesus...

>>54312792
I really hope it isn't, in spite of that. just for the chance that it uses its Disintegration Ray and then we have two party members made of dust.

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>>54312790
when she is getting PAID to play this game, performing in front of a live audience who devote 4 hours of their day to watch, after 3 years she should LEARN HOW HER FUCKING SPELLS WORK

there is literally no excuse, no defense for her pure bullshit

because when she's fucking with her book or arguing with Matt, we have to sit their and watch and it eats time

god marisha is such a fucking bitch, if i was matt i'd fuck keyleth up. this constant back talking to the dm can only happen because she hops on his dick

>>54312827
but hey, at least she's good at roleplaying
:^)

>>54312827
>I have to wait literally 1 minute every 30 minutes or so
>give me my 8 minutes of free entertainment back
>devote my free time for entertainment, I'm entitled to it
>no excuse for people not memorizing spells verbatim

Okay, dude.

>>54312887
oh wow, there's a marisha defender on /tg/
no, you're a shitposter and it's weak bait

>>54312893
>Can't believe that people can show such indifference to something that triggers my autistic rage so badly. Especially since it's about a weekly D&D stream!

It's time to stop posting, friend.

>>54312924
it's not my fault if you like to eat shit and thank the cook. marisha is unprofessional and in any other live show she'd be reprimanded. you think it's okay for her to have no idea what she's doing for a paid show she does for almost 3 years for 4 hours? how many HOURS of wasted time has this show lost to her being a fucking braindead child

>I'm ((((blewish))))

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B L U E W I S H

oh yes, time for keyleth to make it about her uninteresting life
i can't wait until this character is retired

>>54313022
She's the worst

>>54313022

You know it's just gonna carry on into the next campaign. Her next character will be Keyleth 2.0 even if its charisma score is 20.

best guest hand down

man marisha's crocodile tears are so goddamn embarrassing

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>Amazing Guest salvaging Marisha's awful, awful A W F U L useless melodrama
>It keeps getting acceptable as he talks then once again dips into near-unsalvageable territory when Marisha opens her mouth again.

Par for the course on tonight's episode of Critical Role.

he's so masterful he even managed to salvage that awful keyleth diatribe

>>54313039
i'm just praying she plays something like a barbarian or fighter with an average backstory, but knowing her, she'd be some ultra IM TOUGH woman who never shuts up

>>54313049
I feel the most sorry for Matt. Dude's gunna have to live with that shit for the rest of his life.

>>54313059
>>54313061
If Darin replaced Marisha for the next campaign, I'm pretty sure no one would actually care.

>>54313061
>i'm just praying she plays something like a barbarian or fighter with an average backstory, but knowing her, she'd be some ultra IM TOUGH woman who never shuts up

It's probably gonna be another high WIS character (her favorite is Monk) that acts like a bumbling retard.

Hopefully people will realize that Marisha can't RP and Keyleth is just Marisha.

>>54313073
and she already looks like a buck toothed tranny, that shit is only gonna get worse

>>54313081
no one would care? i would fucking cheer

the marisha defense force would commit suicide

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>This was posted in chat in response to that Keylith scene

Why do I find myself in the same fanbase as people this retarted

>whoever is bitching about kiki can fight me

a literal chat comment i just saw kek

>>54313098
desu that wouldn't be too bad

>>54313095
Sorry, I meant no one would care that she was replaced with a much better actor.

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>percy the god-hater
>suddenly has a change of heart when its time for god blessings

>>54313187
Really that could be said of every character so far

>>54313187
the circumstance to change heart seems appropriate though

>>54313187
Percy doesn't hate gods. He's just strongly disposed towards mortal independence. Granted, I think Scanlan has just as much claim to an Ioun blessing as anyone else.

>>54313198

i'd say the only people who really are "deserving" of blessings are pike, vax, and grog

I wish Travis talked more, his deep voice turns me on

>>54313240
I'd say that's fair, though a case could be made for Vex since she did make an attempt to connect with Pelor.

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>Vax out-of-combat play: Mostly Melodramatic but still believable, distressed over his situation and wants the best for his friends

>Vex out-of-combat play: Usually talks with Vax or Percy about issues but nothing too offending in any way. worst thing one can say is that her dialogues are forgettable

>Grog out-of-combat play: Hilarious, unforgettable antics with his mates and fucking with NPCs

>Pike out-of-combat play: Heartfelt, believable and very entertaining motherly disposition toward her friends who she legitimately cares about and is often on point with the humor to boot

>Percy out-of-combat play: Currently baffled by the masses of knowledge around him and has a snarky wit that is plenty entertaining to listen to

>Scanlan out-of-combat play: Do I need to say anything?

Keylith out-of-combat play: "I'm crying" "I'm mad" "*Autistic screech*" "*Awkward shaky voice*" "*Derailment of fun for the purpose of sparking nonexistent conflict.*"

One of these things is not like the others.

>>54313252
>yfw Travis and Laura have sex and use their character's voices.

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sam is a comedic genius

>>54313187
Percy's issue with gods was a sense of "higher than thou," moral high ground position. He's always been a lover of knowledge and science, and him being in what is basically the library of Exandria and the books are literally auto-biographies of every person who've lived on the plane so far.

>>54313273
you can watch dubbed scenes between lust and mustang for something similar

>marisha's bra

>>54313273
If i recall, Travis said that Laura gives him 'the wife look' when he goes 'Grog' at home.

>This is why I left the chat so long ago some of you assholes would just make me so fucking angry with the Keyleth/Marisha hate. That I would start getting violent with myself & it would ruin my fun trying watching this show. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>54313297
The wife look? What? Please, elaborate.

>keyleth lights hands on fire and walks away in a random autistic rage
>serious rp continues as people ignore her
>she comes back to derail shit with melodrama to remind us she dislikes gods

>>54313311
The look your mother gives you (assuming you're not married) when you know you fucked up

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>>54313308

>tumblrbabbies literally punching themselves when someone criticizes keyleth

I'm fucking dying.

Darin will be BACK, thank fucking goodness.

>>54313325
Okay, that makes more sense.

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overall great episode, happy to hear Sprigg is coming back

>>54313354
Right on, had a feeling i wasn't being clear.

>>54313358
it would have been 11 or 12 out of 10, but keyleth autism makes it a 10 out of 10

desu if your bf had terminal cancer with 1 month to live and you were immortal this is the kinda behavior id expect

>>54313373
except she's acted like this since the first episode

also, at first i thought you were talking about orion

Updated quality listing of guest characters:
Sprigg > Kashaw > Zahra > Kerrek > Lionel > Shale > Gern > Tova > Garthok> Lyra > Lillith > Thorbir

>>54313373
Or you could be an adult about it by cherishing the time you have left, instead of throwing futile hissy fits.

I missed today's episode was the guest really that good?

>>54313399
god i cant remember half of these people

>>54313399
i'd switch zahra with kashaw and put a huge power gap between sprigg and the rest, but you're spot on

>>54313412
he was fuken LIT bruh

seriously, yes. he was a great actor and player, despite his age

>>54312126
The sheer subjectivity of this post is laughable.
>good
vs
>bitch and moan
The other threads I read were filled with hundreds of negative comments. The actual discussion always began after 120 posts because all the people disliking critical role left the thread.

>>54313420
Well, Darin has what, 30 years of RPG experience and charisma to match, while most of the others are newcomers or just shite players.

>>54313399

Sprigg > Kashaw > Zahra > Kerrek > Lionel > POWER GAP > Garthok > Thorbir > Shale > Tova > Lyra > Lillith > POWER GAP > Gern

>>54313465
that's too harsh on gern. the force grey shit hardwick was pulling was awful (and thankfully matt killed his ass) but gern was funny and had a cool gimmick

>>54313465
Gern is not a shit character in concept. Hardwick is a shit player though.
Lionel is overrated af.
Garthok, Tova and Lillith were so faceless I'd put them in the end of the line - but they're not actually worse than that twat Weaton and Felicia Day

>>54313373
Except she has the ability to planeshift and visit Vax in the afterlife whenever she wants

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>sprigg talking about how the mind is a prison
>says we need to let go and step out
>have crippling depression

this episode hit me in ways no other episode has

>>54312644
Like how they portray the flame-touched Saronrae as WE WUZ? Probably

>>54313477
>the force grey shit hardwick was pulling was awful (and thankfully matt killed his ass)

Details?

>>54313511
Assuming the Raven Queen would let her.

>>54313517
hardwick was being a child and distracting everyone, matt "rolled" overkill damage on a trap and turned his ass into meat paste

what's funny is that he died early on and every future episode intro began with "Staring Chris Hardwick!" even though he had to sit out kek

>>54313187
True enough, but I'm lying if he didn't RP the heck out of reading those books

>>54313526
This.

Its like your ex visiting your current gf house to visit you

You think Vax could impregnate Keyleth before he dies for good? Technically all his organs function normally.

>>54313382
Made me wheeze right there, chill with that humor lol

>>54313589
i mean, it's not funny, orion is dealing with some serious shit

>>54313602
I know, but that's came off to me as some really dark humor

I find Keyleth's behaviour is understandable. Mortality fucking sucks. Nobody likes to be reminded they and their loved ones are gonna die, especially when that shit is coming soon.

>>54313616
except she's acted like this since episode 1

>>54313616
there's a difference between being upset and making a show all about you while you pout and sperg out
and if it wasn't pouting, it was her obnoxious interjecting into other scenes with IM SO FUNNY XD shit or just generally failing to roleplay her character

>>54313616
I'm with you on this, but I do want to see her grow out of it at some point. Sooner than later.

>>54313616
It is understandable, but God forbid I have a spouse who treats upcoming death like that. She's spending too much time being bitter and angry and not enjoying the time she has with him left. The first time I saw Critical Role and knew about Matt and Marisha, I thought he snatched a hot babe; after a year, I hope there's more than looks and outward personality that somehow keeps Matt interested.

It's time to form CR B-team. There's all you need: Sprigg as a rogue, Zahra as a blaster, Lionel as a meatshield, Kash as a snarky healslut and Kerrek to herd this bunch.

>>54313651
>I hope there's more than looks and outward personality that somehow keeps Matt interested.

Yeah, the fact that the vast majority of Keyleth is acting. Marisha's fault is that she has so many fucking options as a Druid that she can't keep them all straight, she misinterprets things, but she also uses spells that are appropriate to her character.

Marisha irl has more of a Grog personality.

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>>54313514
>Matt: "Her entire body is cloaked in fire, her form made of flames"

>Tumblr:"Hold on, I have to get the potato nose as ugly as possible."

>>54313687
>>54312893

>>54313687
i'm 100% convinced that keyleth and marisha are the same person

>>54313689
Haha that sounds about right

>>54313715
You're wrong because you only see her during the game.

I mean they all get emotional during the game, but they're also actors.

Keyleth as the least talent of the bunch sure, but I cant bring myself to care. If I was playing the fanfiction character I want in a private session for years then got judged when it becomes a show why would I change it? It's not white knighting or anything, it's just like yelling that your nephew sucks at playing cello every thanksgiving. Yep, it's your nephew, not yoyo ma. If they ever make DnD all stars then yeah, she shouldnt be cast. Until then it's her game

>>54313687
>Keyleth
>Acting
Pick one

i'm so glad these threads always devolve into keyleth bashing
even if it's all repeated nonsense, it feels nice to have a balance to the annoy positive tumblr crowd

>>54313739
Acting.

They're fucking actors.

I bet you the in the next campaign you won't even recognize Marisha by how she plays, doing something entirely different from Keyleth.

I convinced he's just bait for (you)s at this point. No one likes Marisha this much here.

>>54313757
We all gotta vent about her somewhere without Nightbot's passive-aggressive opinion messages and (((them))), right?

>>54313715
Seconding this.

I often find it hard to tell what is in or out of character for Keyleth and Marisha, since it seems there is very little to no actual acting going on.

>>54313727
Right... the "Marisha" we see on screen is a complete and total act... Sure...

But let's be honest here, the simplest answer is probably the correct one.

>>54313082
>Hopefully people will realize that Marisha can't RP
It baffles me since she acts for a living

>>54313763
Watch the DnD Stream of Annihilation game with Matt, Marisha, Joe DiMaggio, and Cole Sprouse. She was "Keyleth" but a bard with the name Randy
>implying she doesn't get near all of her acting jobs from being Matt's soon-to-be

How does Liam have so many attacks in his turn?
Is it, Attack, Attack, Hasted Attack, Off Hand Bonus Attack?

>>54313811
>>implying she doesn't get near all of her acting jobs from being Matt's soon-to-be

Also wrong. She is totally successful on her own and didn't meet Matt until she was established.

>>54313820
Yes? Who knows at this point

>>54313802
Look at this
>>54313811

>>54313820
yes, split into action (two attacks from 5 levels of paladin), hasted attack (only one attack) and then off hand bonus attack

>>54313802
What has she actually voice acted in lately? At least as far as I can tell she isn't as big of a name in that business as any of her other players.

Also, keep in mind this is live with no script.

I think it's the fully improvisational aspect and lack of quick decision making skills that make her come across like a massive bumbling idiot.

I find it hilarious you can watch someone on a stream and then think you know them, How they can't tell from acting and sincerity.

>>54313865
i think you can get a decent bead on a person after watching them for 450 hours

>>54313886
I'd agree if they weren't actors.

>>54313886
Man, 450 hours and Marisha still doesn't read her spell descriptions properly

yeah she sucks

and so would you if you had to improv in front of an audience in the shadow of professional improv/stage people like Sam

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Alright, so I know a lot of you guys hate Marisha and her portrayal of Keyleth. A common complaint I see is that she is not acting in accordance to her stats. Such as her Wisdom score of 22 and Charisma Score of 10.

Out of curiosity, can you point out some moments when she did not act in accordance with her stats? What would you have done differently?

>>54313936
literally all she has to do is memorize how her spells work, something she has refused to do for almost three years

>>54313936
She's done stage and improv acting before.

Marisha stop posting ITT and go to bed

I don't even watch Critical Role and I cringe at your shit in the YouTube clips that get circulated

>>54313955
She's said herself there are too many options to memorize them.

>>54313968
that'd be an acceptable response if she wasnt doing this for 3 years

>>54313968
She really should have looked further ahead than "I can make pretty flowers?!" before rolling a Druid.

>>54314000
No it's an acceptable response, there are a fuckload of options for Druids, you cannot keep them all straight.

If you can you're an outlier.

>>54314018
she did last airbender self insert character for a birthday game

this shit didnt plan on having 30k live viewers every week

>>54314028
would you fuck off? no one honestly defends marisha, go shitpost somewhere else

>>54313941
How about when, with 22 Wisdom, SUPERHUMAN in every way, like an oracle or revered prophet in a religious order type Wisdom, she decided to jump off a 1,000 foot cliff and believe that turning into a goldfish and hitting some water would negate all the fall damage.

Or when she continues to be a massive bumbling retard with an awkward, cringey "Shaky-voice" because "So uncharismatic" when, by definition, 10 is the Charisma score of an average person like you or I.

It's not about the stats. It's about the person.

Or if you're one of those people that refuses to believe Marisha and Keyleth are more or less the same, then it's a problem with the character. Neither of those things are going anywhere. We're stuck with what we've got.

>>54314018
Considering this is her first character,, not really in fact I think outside of Matt and Taliesin they're all still playing their first characters of D&D.

It all snowballed from a one-off birthday game that they never expected to amount to anything at all.

>>54313941
>can you point out some moments when she did not act in accordance with her stats?

"We're Golden Gods!!!"
>Jumps off a 1000 foot cliff
>after basically being told "what the fuck are you doing?"
>thinks a light gust of wind will correct her course and help her avoid the rocks and land in the water
>transforms into a goddamn goldfish because... it can swim? (I honestly can't fathom her reasoning there)
>still hits the rocks
>instant death

How about not jumping off the cliff?

How about using her shape change to change into something that can fly, and then flying down?

How about knowing how to take the multiple "what the fuck are you doing?" hints from the entire cast as she goes to leap off the 1000 foot cliff?

>"We're Golden Gods!!!"
>**SPLAT**

22 Wisdom, ladies and gentlemen. 22 Wisdom.

>>54313955
She doesn't even have to know them by heart. Just have some idea of what they actually do. Or what their actual names are.

How many times does she mix up Tree Stride and Transport Via Plants?

>>54314050
Not only do I honestly defend Marisha, but i'll also not fuck off just to spite your ass.

i think what annoys me the most is that after living in modern society for years, keyleth still acts like a clueless tribal

>>54314053
>like an oracle or revered prophet in a religious order type Wisdom, she decided to jump off a 1,000 foot cliff and believe that turning into a goldfish and hitting some water would negate all the fall damage

You've never done something stupid because it's a game and would be cool or fun?

>Or when she continues to be a massive bumbling retard with an awkward, cringey "Shaky-voice" because "So uncharismatic" when, by definition, 10 is the Charisma score of an average person like you or I.

She originally had a negative mod but gained Charisma during the home game. So it could be a hold over from that as her character.

Or, as an average person like you and me, you too would be full of fucking doubt and fear, second guessing yourself and being unsure of your words.

>>54314053
>she decided to jump off a 1,000 foot cliff and believe that turning into a goldfish and hitting some water would negate all the fall damage.

Let's clarify. She would have done so, if Matt didn't roll percentile to see if she hit the rocks instead of the water.

I can understand her thinking, smaller object, less chance to hit the rocks. Didn't work out in the end.

>>54313941
I haven't watched every episode but I feel like her high wisdom she would be more understanding and open to the gods. She brings up that and how resurrection is unnatural a bit too often doesn't do anything interesting with it. Like for the first one she doesn't have a reason to dislike/weary of gods. Like I can understand if it was like be weary of their wrath or something but it's always just "I don't like gods." Then she's on her high horse about the dead should be dead but she seems super happy when the party decides to play God and bring their friends back from the dead

>>54314102
>Or, as an average person like you and me, you too would be full of fucking doubt and fear, second guessing yourself and being unsure of your words.
nice projection. you know she aint gonna suck your dick, right?

>>54314077
It's only been a few years of ingame time, constantly on the move, and the majority of one year spent actually not in modern society at all.

>>54314129
no you fucking idiot, Matt said had she hit the water he would halved the damage because of SURFACE TENSION, that thing you learn about in school that all adults know

>>54314059
>>54314040
That's a very good point.

I suppose if they did plan on making this a thing where they play DnD every week even privately Matt or Talisen would say something like "Just so you know, a year from now if we're still playing, you're gonna have options coming out of your asshole."

>>54314138
>nice projection. you know she aint gonna suck your dick, right?

Oh and she'll totally suck your confident dick.

Let's be honest, only Sam and Matt have talent. Travis has the easiest job hurr i say dumb shit hurr BEND THE KNEE x15, Percy and Liam do srs bsns edgy, and all the women just play themselves / their self insert fanfiction.

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>>54314162
are you a child? is this your first time on 4chan?

>>54314149
Above a certain height, hitting water is effectively the same as hitting concrete.

>>54314186
exactly, keyleth still would have taken like 150 damage

>>54314149
>Matt said had she hit the water he would halved the damage because of SURFACE TENSION, that thing you learn about in school that all adults know

Matt was making up mechanics because SURFACE TENSION has no mechanics in D&D 5e. He also broke the rule of a maximum fall damage possible. So, he disregarded terminal velocity and made up something about surface tension.

Marisha could not have known what rules of reality Matt is operating on. She could have fucking dove into the water, which significantly negates surface tension. A creature such as a fish or dolphin could easily accomplish such a feat.

>>54314211
>Marisha could not have known what rules of reality Matt is operating on. She could have fucking dove into the water, which significantly negates surface tension. A creature such as a fish or dolphin could easily accomplish such a feat.

know we know for sure, whether you're actually an idiot or a shitposter, that you're not worth responding to anymore

>>54314170
All of them are incredibly successful voice actors in popular video games and anime/cartoons.

>>54314178
Nah, been here for a long time. I just know all the hate is undue.

>>54314211
even a fish or dolphin would die from a 1000 foot drop, lmao. I feel like people don't realize how high up that is.

Is this a serious post?

>>54314228
Marisha and Talisan don't do nearly as much as the others.

SGood time to ask this; from which episode/where do I start watching this? I know that there's been some bullshit, so I want to avoid it and get to the good parts.

>>54314227
Neither. Matt has treated the physics of his campaign inconsistently. In some cases he goes by Hollywood rules, others he emulates reality.

>>54314249
whenever the bald guy isnt seen anymore, watch that episode onward

>>54314209
From 1000 feet?

That's jumping off the roof of a 100 floor skyscraper.

Water or no water, that's instant death.

People commit suicide jumping from places a fraction of that height.

>>54314244
True for Marisha, Taliesin has been in the acting business since childhood and was one of the spearheaders for anime localization in the states. Dude is huge into the anime VO scene.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043552/

>>54314249
The show is hit or miss in general, you just start from the first episode and hope for the best.

>>54314263
>TFW you feel bad that Orion left because Tiberius was a fun character but then you remember the parts where he wanted to do 126 different things during downtime and was meta gaming hard.

It isn't about the water and how she tried to justify it.

It's about that she thought that jumping off a 1000 foot cliff was a good idea to begin with. In what non-hugbox world do you think you'd survive without turning into something that has flying? What sort of sane DM would allow you to survive because of >muh water instead of rocks?

>>54314170
>BEND THE KNEE x15

When has he said "bend the knee" fifteen times?

>>54314244
>Taelisin 110
>Marisha only 43 things
Huh I thought Marisha would have done work

>>54314292
kevdak post fight iirc

>>54314304
Marisha has done a whole lot of improv and stage work in LA.

>>54314314

That was ages ago.

>>54314324
I'm just saying when it was Travis' big moment to shine he struggled to improv, just like anyone else who gets put in that situation. It's really fucking hard despite Sam and Matt making it look easy

>>54314333

Huh. I must be remembering it differently but I thought his improv was pretty good during the whole Kevdak mini-arc.

Honestly, the subtle things Travis does with Grog on the spot is incredible. It's not as wordy as Sam or Matt, with Travis and Grog it's more about body language but Travis does really fucking well with it. Grog is one the characters that feels most "alive" purely by virtue of the subtle actions Travis does to accentuate his roleplay.

>>54314383
Liam does that as well, remember when Scanlan died?

>>54314170
You pop up exactly once in every CR thread with the same argument about Travis. While you may be right to some extent, your repetition of the same phrase is way more boring than the one you are talking about.

>>54314427
I think Liam is solid though a bit edgey. I think he does well with being an edgey character who wants to protect his friends.

>>54309864
30 minutes at lunch. There's so much content I'll basically never run out.

I've been watching a Shadowrun one called Roll4It. The show is okay, but I've been trying to learn the system, so it's helpful to see it in action.

watching the rebroadcast, the play between matt's imp and sprigg is so good

so i'm confused, the show at comic is canon and can we watch it?

>>54314602
There'll be no show at Comic Con, only a Q&A panel.
There'll be a game on GenCon though.

>>54314621
when is gencon? will that be the next episode?

>>54314630
August 17th, so no, not the next. No episode next week at all - they will all be at Comic Con.
GenCon live game will be in a separate venue with tickets for pre-order somewhere. It'll most probably be streamed though, like two live games last year.

>>54314656
thnx

Ok, as a foreword - at this point I've only watched episodes 1-15, the episode where Scanlan leaves and the episode where he returns.

Overall critical role is very enjoyable (Mercer could just narrate the whole adventure and 75% of the quality would remain) but they run into some serious tone problems at times with the roleplaying. Remember that time they killed a Duergar just because they wanted a hammer he didn't want to give them? Or every time they go full fedora vs Kima? I'm not even going to go into the whole Scanlan thing.

It's pretty obvious the cast made deliberate efforts to make flawed characters with various degrees of success. Failures include Tiberius, whose flaw is being flawless (he casts a spell to reflect being spat on, I legit don't know how Orion survived cancer with that attitude) and Kayleth whose flaws are rarely overtly noticed by the rest of the party. Where was I going with this?

Right so my question is, does /tg/ think it's worth it? There are DM's out there who would likely recommend against creating overly detailed backgrounds and personalities for the characters, not so much that they become wooden planks but so that there's NEVER any drama. In-character drama is first of, something everyone at the table must recognise can't be resolved immediately or even quickly, in a game that's predominantly about "I will solve my problems right now" kind of gameplay. Having a party of clashing personalities and "feelings" leads to situations that become overly verbose, defensive and embarassing, like Scanlans departure and return.

I'm not saying it's better to play the characters as a stat sheet because that's just boring. Maybe the best thing is to play characters that are superfiscial archetypes with less depth? It's just if you want actual depth you need to sit down and write a script and have a director come in to make sure dialogue is fluid, or else the characters make sense internally but the external interactions become nonsensical.

>>54314059
It's been mentioned in the past, but here are the D&D/tabletop experiences of the cast prior to the birthday game one-off evolving into a local game, and from THAT evolving into Critical Role.

>Matt
Been a lifelong nerd for decades, dating back to his high school years and learning a bit of 1st edition before moving into 2nd edition. Been stuck with the DM role for quite a while, but enjoys it.

>Taliesin
Also at least a decade of tabletop experience, dating back to oWoD and some 2nd edition D&D.

>Liam
Played a bit back when he was a kid, but hadn't rolled dice in almost 20 years prior to the birthday game (which was for him).

>Sam
Similar situation as Liam; played once or twice as a kid 20 years ago, never picked it up until the birthday game.

> Laura, Travis, Ashley
Hadn't played a single tabletop game until the birthday game.

Side note: Laura had worked a bit ahead of time with Liam on the whole twins concept, which is why she went into the birthday game with the Ranger and some form of backstory.

Travis didn't think to spend any time on the game and even showed up a bit late to the party, so he went into the game with, "what's the best class to hit shit with?" And Matt and Taliesin gave him the Barbarian.

Again, this was a one-shot. How was ANY of them to know/expect it to evolve into a home game, much less what it is today?

>>54314333
Honestly, prior to the Briarwood Arc, I felt like most of them were still getting a feel for how to do it all on camera.

But when the Briarwood Arc began, the other experienced roleplayer at the table (Taliesin) stepped into the spotlight and - in my opinion - helped launch the show into what it is today with some strong roleplay, great acting, and helping his fellow players get into it as well as Percy danced on the knife's edge of getting vengeance or falling into the pit of hate, anger, and revenge that his literal inner demon wanted him to go into.

>>54313651
Matt's on record saying several times that actual Marisha is the opposite of Keyleth and is in fact manlier than he is
Still it doesn't make her acting not atrocious

>>54315913
Keyleth is interesting because she is such a bad character she is like a joffery or a bolton. you like to hate them because they objectively suck ass however they make the grog and scanlan stuff so much better in contrast. However I think marisha not knowing the spells is stupid at this point shes been playing the game for over 100 episodes and her boyfriend is the DM if you dont know what something does dont use it, its not hard. Also she roll plays her stats like a tard.