Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

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First for there's nothing to talk about so hey does anyone want to give criticism on my WIP fimir BT?

>>54173435
Reading through it and I agree with you on the Shearls ability to disappear in the mists. It should be a 9" distance or at least 10".

First among cowards seems ok in its current iteration, leave it be.

Drop healing from Lisart's Blessing entirely and let it be a roll off between -1 rend or +1 to wound.

How do I make a competitive Seraphon army? All I can think of that might stand up to current meta listts is the thunderquake/shadowstrike combo list and maaaaybe a hyper-aggressive double carno bloodclaw list with a shadowstrike. Even then these lists are so weak vs even mid teir armies theyll just gett shit on if the opponent is halfway decent.

The biggest tournament in my area is being held this weekend. I just found out that some asshole is bringing a full Aetherstrike/Hammerstrike SCE army to the event. Keep in mind that since this is a fairly small playerbase for the area (less than 10 people are going to be there) WAACing is mostly kept to a minimum.

How would I go about trying to win against this shit? It does not seem to have any weaknesses at all.

>>54174466
You don't

>>54174557
yeah how dare people attending a competitive event bring good armies. whats wrong with people?

>>54174557
Tournaments are competitive environments, literally the only place taking your strongest lists is actively encouraged. Why have we gone from full on WAAC WHFB to "waaah waaah hes taking a strong list why cant everyone play shit lists"?

>>54175000
>competitive game gets dumped
>new game designed to appeal to kiddies
>surprised when the player base now acts like children

Fucking elves.

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>no longer available

what did GW mean by this?

>>54176714
Huh. Hopefully reboxing?

>>54176714

Reboxing??

>>54174557
Holy shit are you in Vancouver? I'm going to Wetcoast and an asshole is bringing Aetherwing/Hammerstrike

>>54176714
SQUATTED

>>54177094
>>54177212
When they reboxing somehting it's "temporary out of stock"

>>54178838
I thought was the other way around. "Temporarily out of stock" meant yknow...temporary, whereas sold out/no longer available meant getting reboxed.

>>54178944
>sold out/no longer available meant getting reboxed.
Wrong.

>>54178974
That's a bait, same retard with same retard answer every fucking time despite being proven wrong.

>>54179003
>That's a bait
That's reality, when GW sending some models to reboxing they write "temporary out of stock" (like it was with liuzards and skaven).

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>>54179038
>That's reality
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/Succubus-2014

>Oh look, this one got squatted last month, no longer avaiable.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/Dwarf-Irondrakes
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/Dwarf-Irondrakes

>Oh look, these 2 got squatted too, "No Longer Avaiable"

Same questions was asked for the supposely "squatted" ,"no longer avaiable" Dwarf. Same fucking answer despite being proven wrong time from time," hurr durr "No longer available" mean squatted lel if they rebox they will say temporary out of stock""

Can't wait to tune in next time for the next "no longer avaiable" box with the same fucking answer again.

>>54179204
>no longer avaiable.
Not "sold out" like NG,

shadowkin soonish I hope.

>>54179695
>he needs another Dark Eldar army

>>54176714
They have run out of stock of the old WHFB boxes online, and are going to rebox with circle bases and a new box

>>54179757
>They have run out of stock of the old WHFB boxes online, and are going to rebox with circle bases and a new box
Yay! I was being stupidly worried and reading too much into it.

>>54179757
>and are going to rebox with circle bases and a new box
>Yay! I was being stupidly worried and reading too much into it.

>that's what fantasycucks believed

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>>54173344
Soon

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>>54180012
Never, fantasycuck

>>54180067
Squats?

>>54174466
Forgeworld

>>54174466
lmao what are you talking about? Everything is good in AoS, just put in whatever models you like.

>>54174557
I'd probably just accept that you're going to meet all the tryhards at tournaments. So don't go to one and expect to have as much fun as normal.

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Everything I own plus everything I'm buying soon. What do I need to add?

What's everyone's favourite legacy army?

>>54182665
Verminus

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>>54182665

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So what are you guys working on? Posted earlier about my TL ancient and I've been working on it. Staff hand and head are still under work. Lighting is kinda shitty, sry for that. Any advice or clear mistakes I've made?

Btw nice job lizard anon who posted in earlier thread, I think you can manage the freehand!

>>54182665
>favourite legacy army
Wrong thread motherfucker

>>54182844
Debating about selling clan pestilence (focusing on moulder and skrye) so i can buy models for my narrative list.. Chaos aelfs

>>54182844
Working on the last model for my Skirmish warband, a Longstrike Raptor. Currently the greenstuff is drying, so I hope to start basecoating the fucker tonight.
Really unhappy with the pose, but I'm not about to buy another Knight-Venator just to fuck around with the pose once more.

Away with this nonsense.

You're the definition of a legacy army.

Your entire range has been squatted.

You didn't get the basic dignity of being in a Grand Alliance book.

You rely on compendium rules that GW is never going to update.

Now shoo mr fairo.

Empire.

>>54174557
Pure aetherstrike is better

>>54182665
Drybones McMummyfuckers.

>>54179718
oh fuck you we've been waiting ages for either the wanders, the shadowkin or the light elves to get a release

>>54179204
>>54179038

Fyi, what is says when something sells out is not related to upcoming releases. System is buggy and arbitrarily assigns these labels when something sells out and its a pain in the ass to change. They need to overhaul their system so bad.

Source: Ive done tech support contract work for a nottingham based model manufacturing company.

>>54183704
>oh fuck you we've been waiting ages for either the wanders, the shadowkin or the light elves to get a release
You already have Eldars

>>54178944
That is correct, >>54178974 is just a shitposter.

Also, Glade Guard have already been reboxed. They are a bit cheaper apparently, but I don't remember how much they were before hand.

>>54180067
>Starting with Codex: Speees Ma urins
Oh really you are going to start with the Space Marines wow who could have thougt!?

>>54182504
depends what you're trying to do with it. Scribes are always nice though.

>>54182665
Anything with a Sword and Shield. You know fantasy weapons?

>>54174557
It can lose to getting double turned by MW spam, Changehost maybe or getting unlucky to thunderukk. Aetherstrike is a broken list and should be removed.

>>54183916
>Aetherstrike is a broken list and should be removed.
Right after they remove kunnin rukk, thundertusks and skyfires

>>54183972
Kunnin Rukk as well yeah, a battalion shouldn't be doubling your armies power for <100 points. That's just stupid and game breaking.

>>54180067
That is some kind of nightmare.

It is 10 codexes in 6 months. What will AoS get? More or less nothing

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>>54184132
>What will AoS get?
GHB and new SCE release

>>54184132
Shadow aelves are this year, there's probably a nurgle demons dual release as well.

>>54184310
>Shadow aelves are this year,
[proof needed]

>>54184310
Hopefully it won't be an all-dude elf army,

>>54184342
>all-dude
???

>>54184310
I'm starting to think Nurgle Daemons are going to get folded into Nurgle Rotbringers the same way Tzeentch Arcanites, Hosts of Slaanesh, and Blades of Khorne have gone.

Plaguebearers completely de-listed in the US and the Start Collecting! seems to have gone missing.

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Pic related is the worst model I ever bought. Gaps are huge as fuck and details are horribly crooked. The first warhammer purchase I regret

>>54184453
>bought outdated WHFBshit
>Complains

>>54184453
what do you mean crooked?Also i bought the left one from a friend and it seems fine to me.

>>54174466
Literally just bring 80 skinks to the table and win 38-1 on objectives against any army

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>>54184330
>[proof needed]
Mini shadow dragon to the rescue

I had an idea for a unit for the new shadow elves. Basically its an elite unit that is mounted on a larger version of pic related.

They have move 24, fly, 3" range melee attacks, 6 attacks, hit on 2+ wound on 2+, rend -3, damage 4. 6 wounds per model with a 2+ save and a 5+ ignore, and a shooting attack that does 2D3 automatic hits with 18" range wounding on 2+ doing D6 mortal wounds each. Also should be able to run, retreat, charge, and shoot in the same turn every turn and always pile in and attack first even in opponents turn.

what do you think?

>>54185355
>Mini shadow dragon to the rescue
It literally could be anything.
>what do you think?
Another elves in generic black leather/latex.

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>>54184624
Look at these strings mate. They should look like ending in fur but they are just cut off

>>54185418
>40k has Deldar so AOS shouldn't have Shadow elves.

you do realize they are completely different game systems with incompatible rules right?

>>54185841
>you do realize they are completely different game systems with incompatible rules right?
So what? We already have sucn models why do we need their clones?

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>>54182665
Skaven

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>>54185866
>why do we need their clones?
fine. But I want rules for these (pic) in AOS then.

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>>54182665
I regret sticking with rats every day but I just can't drop them - they are the best cheap fun I can have

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>>54182665

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>>54185355
Stats seem okay to me except damage is a little weak. Should be 5 imo

>>54187365
I think you're right. They should probably be immune to battle-shock too and regenerate a wound each time they kill a model.

>>54186992
get more stormfeinds fegget

>>54188577
Listen up your little shit you are probably right but I just bought a lightning cannon and a start collecting box for another one and a bell so right now I'm having fun with shooting the ducks

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I have never painted as complex kit as this before. Is it wise to cut off the crew models and prime the ret on the sprue and then cut them off to assemble?

Holy shit, wasn't that game the one about bring whatever you want to the table, make silly noices for extra shit and no points? What happened there.

>>54189465
>wasn't that game the one about bring whatever you want to the table
It still is - you just have three different ways to play the game
>make silly noices for extra shit
The joke rules were a joke mate - people were using them only for keks
>and no points
No points in narrative play and open play is still a thing
>What happened there
The 40k 8th edition desu

>>54189441
white primer spray paint everything on the spru. Hell you might want to think about base coating most things on the spru too.

>>54189564
I see a lot of complains about points and competitive armies.

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>>54182665
Dispossessed.

>>54185470
damn that's bad, mine doesn't have it, maybe it's just a similar model from a different origin.

>>54182665
beastmen, but they don't feel as good as they used to, they weren't treated very well from the setting evolution

>>54189581
You will see them in every community living around a point-based game - it's just a nature of competitive gaming

>>54187589
They also need some way to reroll saves, I feel they are too squishy but need a slightly better save somehow.

>>54189694
100% this. Kharadron come close to being almost as cool. But ironbreakers are still best model to me

>>54182665
Warriors of Chaos. They'll always be Chaos Moorecock Vikings to me.

>>54184428
Khorne Bloodbound, Tzeentch Arcanites, Daemons of Khorne and Tzeentch are still listed as four faction in both the AoS App and the Warscroll builder, so if I had to guess I would say they will be kept separate but share the same keyword.

Children of Nurgle anyone?

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>>54190472
I think that's where I'd draw the line. They do need a weakness and only having a 2+ armor with a 5+ ignore is a pretty glaring disadvantage.

pic related would still probably come out on top though in a straight up fight

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>>54190848

I wish they'd announce Nurgle Battletome tomorrow - you know, on 7/7/17.

I'm gonna be so pissed if we wait for all this 40K shit to be over and they go GUESS WHAT MORE STORMCASTS!

Give me my Nurgle Battletome goddammit

>>54189441
>>54189574
Sounds like a good way to ruin a model with mould lines.

>>54191099
>They do need a weakness
To be out of meta?

>>54191939
>Give me my Nurgle Battletome goddammit
They will probably release it with Death Guard final wave

>>54193631
>To be out of meta?
if they didn't have any weakness then you couldn't accuse your opponent of being the reason for failing to kill them.

>>54193724
>if they didn't have any weakness then you couldn't accuse your opponent of being the reason for failing to kill them.
So what?

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So during AoS' dry spell, what do you guys follow to fill the void in your heart?

Personally I love FLG and look forward to their 9th Realm show every thursday. Also Vince Vinturella often has something related to AoS and fantasy gaming in general to talk about.

How about you guys?

Trying to understand the lore about my three favorite races from the Old World. I know the Slann survived and summon the lizardmen as Seraphon, essentially lizard angels. Orks are known as Orruks, although I'm not sure that any major Ork figures survived. But I don't know about Tomb Kings: I know Nagash is alive and well because he's Nagash, but is there an equivalent to Tomb Kings in AoS?

>>54195446
>my three favorite races from the Old World
Fuck off fantasycuck
>I know the Slann survived
Only their mummies
>although I'm not sure that any major Ork figures survived.
None
>but is there an equivalent to Tomb Kings in AoS?
Nope, they are squatted, only VC represent undeads

>>54195201
>AoS
>fantasy gaming

>>54195446
Ignore >>54195564
Slaan survived cause they and the lizardmen left the old world on their spaceships before it got fucked. No notable orcs or gobbos survived, but some DID since they're still around along with the ogres who now (Still) worship gorkamorka
TK got squatted

>>54195564
Stop posting.

>>54195596
>Slaan survived
And they all died in space.

>>54195564
>>54195596
Neat, thanks for the info. Bummer about the Tomb Kings, really liked their aesthetic, but Lizardmen, Orks and Skaven still exist so I'm fine with it.

>>54195655
Not him but the slaan survived. They are the ones summoning the saurus and skinks. It was their sheer willpower that survived them through the long voyage through the void

>>54195692
>Orks
It's called orruks, idiot.

>>54195705
>They are the ones summoning the saurus and skinks.
Thier ghosts summons ghosts of surus and skins from their memory.

>>54195705
Also the spaceships they were in

>>54195720
Dude, read the battletome some time, it may surprise you.

>>54195708
Fuck the hostility. This is one of the reasons I left the /aosg/ in the first place. It serves no place here.

>>54195740
>Dude, read the battletome some time, it may surprise you.
Except I've read it, when Dracothion found their ships drifting in space there were none alive, only echo of slanns memory

>>54195740
It's mainly perpetuated by one or two guys
I'm secretly convinced they're a fantasy grognard who can't move on that fantasy is dead and not coming back EVER

>>54195760
>I'm secretly convinced they're a fantasy grognard who can't move on that fantasy is dead and not coming back EVER
That's why I've always telling anons to pick actual armies, instead of legacy?

>>54183853
Actually they usually don't because inevitably the first few codex out get BTFO by later releases in an edition cycle because of power creep. If they do that their bread and butter is left to wallow as garbage.

>>54195766
You could do it in a way that doesn't make you come off as a massive cunt

>>54195783
>that doesn't make you come off as a massive cunt
>like I care about fantasycucks opinion

>>54195796
Sure thing, massive cunt.

I actively encourage new players to get into armies that appeal to them, and they can be old or new ones, and I do not feel i am at all misleading them. I am not the only one that does it.

>>54195880
Dude, he a slav warmachine shitposter that's trolling both fantasy and AoS.

>>54195880
>and I do not feel i am at all misleading them.
But you doing it, even more, you didn't helping the game and didn't helping the newcomers

>>54195912
>he a slav warmachine shitposter
What?

>>54195880
Honestly, don't bother with him man. The dude is either a massive troll or messed up in the head because he spends too much of his life here.

>>54195948
>>54195912
Oh shit i didn't see it. He is the reason I left in the first place. The broken english in this post >>54195927 pretty much confirms it.

This is why I am a strong proponent of poster identifiers that most of the other boards have. It would be really easy to filter his bullshit out.

>>54195999
Or just flags.

>>54195999
>This is why I am a strong proponent of poster identifiers that most of the other boards have.
Then what are you doing on imageboards?
>It would be really easy to filter his bullshit out.
>actual advices
>bullshit
Yeah sure, GW soon will update your precious legacy armies and make useful your one-unit spams

>>54195912
>Warmachine
That explains the whole "Dead game" thing. He's projecting since warmachine/hordes is ACTUALLY in the process of suicide

>>54196033
fuck off slav shitposter

>>54196045
>He's projecting
Never touched PP minis

>>54196033
>Advices
>Pluralizing a plural
Wow. You really are a non native english speaker.
Why do we say they're a slav again though?

>>54196053
fuck off fantasycuck, go shill your dead armies somewhere else

>>54195999
He posts in the same broken English and same style for at least 2 years. It's easy to spot him. So add a disclaimer at the start of each thread warning about him and should be enough.

>>54196045
He started shitposting in AoS and fantasy threads when some anons said they prefer fantasy over warmachine in one of the fantasy during the whole end times thing. He kept at it ever since.

>>54196126
That doesn't change the fact that warmachine decided to copy warhammer in alienating their entire fanbase, but forgot the part where they make a new one

>>54196167
I don't follow warmachine. What did they do exactly?

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>40k releases until the end of time
>on the odd occasion that AoS gets a release it'll just be more stormcast, khorne, chaos, or some new meme army

>freeguild/normal humans will never get another release

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I am so excited about this book. Removing path to glory was a good thing. I was never really a fan of the system for campaigning, but I feel it having its own book is necessary.

But that left room for time of war rules (which is something I would happily play in every game) and the additional allegiance rules are exciting for old and new armies.

I keep seeing remarks from GW on their FB pages everywhere that they haven't forggot about AoS and are not giving up on legacy armies. All this time I have been engrossed in 40k 8e, but i have never given up on AoS. I love just about everything about it.

>>54196184
I don't either, but from what I heard Their newest edition was kinda a steaming turd, but to attempt to alleviate it they introduced a whole "Online forum where if you tell us what's wrong with the game we'll fix it" but don't actually DO anything with it. Couple this with the WAAC types that seem to infest that game, their fanbase is simultaneously mad cause change, feeling like they're needing to pay to be beta testers for a game, and also not being listened to.

>>54189441
painting on sprue is retarded

youre just going to have big ugly sprue connections you'll have to paint over and clean up later

>>54196276
Oh, and the strongest army got hit with the nerf bat hard, so they have Aelf player whining too

>>54196281
Also you might scrape off your own damn paintjob when you're cleaning the model.

>>54196281
>>54196303
This. I see no benefit at all with painting on the sprue. So I will do subassemblies. Like build the guys, but keep their shields separate so I can get the details underneath and around them, then glue the shields on after painting.

Parts need to be cleaned after they are clipped off their sprues, and you can't clean them after you paint them, unless you want to paint them again after clenaing.

>>54196268
>they haven't forggot about AoS and are not giving up on legacy armies.
2 codex per month swettie, 2 codex per month

>>54196266
>game about gods and demigods
>normal humans
pick one

>>54196390
>game about gods and demigods
kharadron are just normal dorfs

>>54196415
>kharadron are just normal dorfs
In power armor

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>>54196428
90% of them are just in diving suits

>>54196447
>90% of them are just in diving suits
Very advanced suits with backpacks, SM-like helmets and power-weapon

>>54196475
That doesnt make them gods or demigods, just dorfs with stuff

>>54196475
They're pressure suits
Like actually. THose things on their backs are airtanks. And I do not understand how a normal ass cutlass is a power weapon

>>54196488
>That doesnt make them gods or demigods
Yep just guys in power armor.
>>54196489
>THose things on their backs are airtanks.
Then why they have respiractors on their helmets?
Also, my point was that normal humans literally have no niche as army, since Kharadons already filled "usual mortals who matching supersoldiers through their tech-level"

>>54196526
PResumably the same reason diving gear has respirators? Air's gotta come out somewhere

>>54196526

Just because you dont have enough of an imagination to find a theme for a new human army doesnt mean it cant happen

>>54196541
Okay, tell us about your vision of human army except "something like kharadons, but taller and with tanks instead of airships"

how much would a 2000 points sky pirate dwarfs army cost, if it was ment to be good and someone didn't want to use an ally ?

>>54196428
Some of the characters have power armor, but the rest are just pressure suits. And even then it doesnt make them gods or demigods. Try again.

>>54196603
>but the rest are just pressure suits.
Actuallyt, nope all their infantry except basic one >>54196447 have steampunk power armor

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>>54196551
They dont even need to change, just add a few kits

Humans are like the imperial guard of sigmar. Waves of handgunners and state troops, backed up by artillery and maybe some new warmachines, elite infantry and griffons/demigryphs

maybe expand the arcane college or ironweld

big wizard constructs, crazy walking tanks covered in steamguns, engineers with long rifles walking around on tallboys

>>54196586
Just download armybuilder and look at GW website

aren't the back carnisters for ether gold? So when they find some they have a place to suck it in, because with it being in gas form you can't really carry it by hand .

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>>54196623
>all their infantry (except their most basic and therefore by far the most numerous) have power armour

>>54196623
Grundstok Thunderers are not power armor. Just heavy armor. Try again.

>>54196635
yeah, the problem is I don't know which units are good and which are bad. I don't have the cash to buy bad models. I understand I need two unit of diver dudes and one leader, but I have no idea what else is played in good lists, and no one at my store plays the army, so no one can help me.

>>54196634
>They dont even need to change
What?
>Humans are like the imperial guard of sigmar.
City of Secrets describes them as PDF
>elite infantry
>big wizard constructs, crazy walking tanks covered in steamguns, engineers with long rifles walking around on tallboys
So the same steampunk as we have here >>54196447
>except "something like kharadons, but taller and with tanks instead of airships"

>>54196659
[citation needed]
>>54196660
>yeah, the problem is I don't know which units are good and which are bad.
Kharadon new army, they are all good for new player

>>54196661
so because kharadron exist, something with vague similarities cant?

>>54196661
please show me the big wizard constructs that the kharadron have

>>54196681
>cant
Nope, of course they can exist, but why do we need copy of already exisitng (in AoS) army?

>>54196686
>please show me the big wizard constructs
Celestial Prime
Also, Kharadon airships

>>54196693
because it'll be different?

Maybe people will kike a non-midgee army?

Because grey knights/space wolves/blood angels/ dark angels all exist and are popular even though they're carbon copies of an existing army?

>>54196693
Well there IS a nice, and that niche is "Not flying or on boats"

>>54196671
yeah, sorry but I burned myself twice on the "everything is good". So I would rather get some sort of a list, failiing that a place where lists are posted. I checked the only forum for AoS in my home language, but there is only stuff for sigmaritte, tree kin and chaos armies of different sorts.

>>54196697
So what?

>>54196701
how the fuck is a guy or a blimp a wizard construct?

Im talking about shit like the celestial hurricanum

imagine an army based around wizards and their batshit magical inventions

>>54196712
>because it'll be different?
How exactly, totally the same steampunk aesthetic.
>Because grey knights/space wolves/blood angels/ dark angels all exist and are popular even though they're carbon copies of an existing army?
Except they are copy of poster boys, none need shitton of IG armies.

>>54196724
>how the fuck is a guy or a blimp a wizard construct?
Because one is magical robor with wings and the other is working of magical fuel.
>imagine an army based around wizards
Tzeench

>>54196731
where did I say steampunk?

old timey technology =/= steampunk

>>54196743
>where did I say steampunk?
Here, you even added steampunk picture >>54196634
>old timey technology =/= steampunk
So you mean what..? Fantasy diselpunk?

>>54196742
ok you win, every army already exists

Bet you're looking forward to the next big stormcast release so you can slop down that retributor gold like it's candied horse semen you faggot

Just a heads up guys. You are engaging the shitposter again. When will you learn. He will evade and change goalposts to milk (you)s from you.

>>54196761
>Bet you're looking forward to the next big stormcast release
Actually yes.
Have a nice day NPCfanboy

>>54196634
*tips fedora

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Just go full on HRE

>>54196798
So Kharadon Overlords meets Cygnar?

>>54196764
At this point I can't really blame the shitposter anymore, everyone keeps giving him (you)s he would be crazy if he stopped.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

cant wait for that next stormcast release guys

I hope they release a dozen more clampacks of existing heroes

And a new medium-large calvary type to fill the gap between the 3 existing cavalry sizes

What I really want is a shining golden gun I can spend my life savings on and then blow my brains out

>>54196815
>kharadron invented steampunk and now own the aesthetic in the universe

>>54196838
>>kharadron invented steampunk and now own the aesthetic in the universe
Where I've said anything like this?

>>54196826
Stay mad NPC.

>>54196852
your whole argument is that because kharadron have a semi-steampunk look, no other army can overlap onto that

>>54196865
I'll stay satisfied int he knowledge that if GW doesnt step up and release new shit that actually appeals to people, theyll have to take sigmar out back and shoot it too

>>54196867
>no other army can overlap onto that
I've never said anything like this, look here is my point about "army with the same aesthetic as Kharadon" >>54196693

>>54196881
>GW doesnt step up and release new shit that actually appeals to people,
Most of people loves Stormcasts. None interested in "another generic irrelevant normal humans"

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>>54196905
>Most of people loves Stormcasts
There is no way anybody actually believes this

>>54196965
>fantasycuck in denial

I really have no idea what unit(s) to get next to bring my armor from 1000 to 1500 points

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>>54176714
They are gradually changing the boxes and rebasing the fantasy range.

Daemonettes and Plaguebearers went Out of Production last week I think.

They have returned with this dope boxes and some base change (Daemonettes are still 25mm, they just don't have the square one anymore).

>>54197001
army?

>>54197014
yeah I typod hella bad

I am thinking maybe some more elite units because my current list is over 70 models at 1000 points, with a lot of conversion and kitbashing involved.

>>54197027
>yeah I typod hella bad
Nope, I've asked, what army do you collecting?

>>54197034
kharahradonts

>>54197034
>what army do you collecting?
slaves to darkness with a side of khorne mortals

I bought 60 monopose bloodreavers and decided no two should be alike

>>54197041
>kharahradonts
Airships and shooting guys

>>54197046
>continued
it was actually a lot of fun converting and kitbashing them all, but I also want my next addition to be more straightforward

>>54197076
Do you have the war shrine

Anyone know where I can find the Nagash monologue from the audiobooks?

>>54197084
yes, well, technically no.

It is on the 1000pt list but I haven't bought one yet. It's taken me way longer than expected to get everything converted and built due to career moves taking time away from hobbies. I had planned to convert one as well, but I drew blanks on ideas for it, so I'll buy normal one and build it as-is, bringing me up to 960 points. If you remember shield anon from some months ago, back when I first started acquiring models for this project, that's me.

>wulfrik the wanderer, converted/kitbashed
>a bloodsecrator
>two units of 5 horsemen with spears
>30 bloodreavers, some most of them converted/kitbashed
>30 marauders with shields, all converted/kitbashed
>a warshrine

but after that where to go? I feel like I need some range, or speed, or maybe just a powerful unit or two.

>>54197125
>but after that where to go?
Daemons to summon

>>54197125
Get someone with a command ability ASAP

>>54197133
With what wizard?

>>54197163
>With what wizard?
Witch heroes from Battletome

>>54197174
???

>>54197182
8 Blood points, if I remember correctly allow you to summon any daemon of Khorne

>>54197228
Ah. I did not know they gave khorne summoning. Still, a command ability is a MITE more important

>>54197163
I was planning on having wulfrik just use inspiring presence, with the thought that 30 marauders with 5+ saves special deploying and ignoring battleshock would be tough to displace

A foot lord and a summoning pool might be fun though.

>>54197182
I think anon means the sorcerer lord or whatever khorne specific thing.

>>54197013
Praise the dark prince! I won't have to rebase 70 daemonettes!

>>54197013
those daemonettes make me sad every time I see them

>>54197590
The whole Slaanesh range is ugly as fuck, and ugly in a bad way. The crab claw is ugly, the saggy breast is ugly. The whole range is a big DO NOT WANT

>>54197907
thankfully I bought a shit ton of juan diaz daemonettes when they were on Made to Order

>>54196489
>I do not understand how a normal ass cutlass is a power weapon
They are actually Aether enhanced somehow. I think it just makes it lighter for the wielder though.

>>54196974
>t.CoD player

Noone can have pikes in this AoS thing right?
Are there pike armed troops in 9th age?

I have a crapton of the various metal pikemen that GW released back in the day.

I aint getting back into the game unless i can use pikes.

That's aetherpunk to you, human.

>>54199434

Freeguild spearmen.

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Possibly a new FAQ inbound, probably after the General's Handbook since it'll have new rules and such

>>54199589
>melee
>legacy army
Dude, just stop.

>>54199898
>AoS Grand Tournament Heat 3 was recently won by a melee legacy army

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>>54199863
FAQ Question:
Q: Why is your points balance such utter shit that anyone who knows high-school math can prove its screwed up?
A: Because our "professional" balance team uses their "gut instincts" and "feelings" to determine points costs instead of objective analytical numerical methods.

Please just KYS already. Legacy = compendium. You've got Sigmar's hammer so far up your ass you can't tell the difference between freeguild and tomb kings.

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>>54199979
yeah wtf was that about anyways? I read the warscrolls and they look terrible. What am I missing here?

>objective analytical numerical methods

Okay but how do you account for units which change role depending on loadout. This isn't 40k where we take into account equip cost, though maybe it would be better if it did.

>>54200069
He had 2 Mangler Squigs and a Colossal Squig as well.
Grot Warboss command ability lets rolls of 6 to wound do double damage, which probably helped considering the sheer amount of Squigs he was throwing around.
Every time a Squig flees with battleshock, they do a mortal wound on a 4+ to any enemy within 6 inches as well.

Reading the article on Warhammer-Community, it looks like he basically threw his Squigs at the enemy units while he held objectives with his grots.

>>54199979
So what?
>>54200064
>you can't tell the difference between freeguild and tomb kings.
But I can

>>54196965
I don't like SCE, but IMO they're more interesting than the BLUD FOR TEH BLUD GOD GAAAAAAAAAAAAAA KBB.

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New skaven

Wew :^)

>>54199898
Where did the waacfag touch you anon?

Everyone at my local store uses melee armies

>>54200279
>Everyone at my local store uses melee armies
So what?

>>54200153
>Reading the article on Warhammer-Community, it looks like he basically threw his Squigs at the enemy units while he held objectives with his grots.
So he won only because of objectives, not because his army was good

>>54200247
wow what a great model

>>54200227
>[
Yeah sure, because immortal lawful good ultramarines surely more interesting than charismatic barbarians

>>54200092
>Okay but how do you account for units which change role depending on loadout
either conservatively point them based on their most efficient load out, making the assumption that in almost all cases that is the one that will be used. Or take some kind of weighted distribution of the options into consideration when determining the mean.

but that's hard and depending on the "feels" of "experts" is easy. (cheaper too)

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>>54182892
I don't know, wait until the new ghb and look after that? Nice idea you have, something like cult of slaanesh?
>>54182989
Sounds nice! I know the feeling, but skirmish is the best for making your dudes! Post pic when it's ready?

Finally finished the treelord ancient, ofc base is still unfinished but it's for tomorrow. What do you guys think? I sadly only have Potato phone image of it.

>>54200814
Are you the same guy that was doing those Durthu and Everqueen models? If so, I can't wait til I can finally fucking see this whole army because it looks like the sickest paint scheme I've ever seen.

I have my first AOS game tomorrow with my skaven against an undead player.

>I have 80 clanrats, a cannon, 2 mortars, a Warlock and a Warlord.
>He brings a Vampire Lord on Dragon, 20 Archers and a bunch of Ghoul dudes (both of the small and large variety)

Realistically, how fucked am I ?

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>>54200069
Moon klan, Moon klan, cant you see?
Elves and stormcast need to hang from trees,

And I just love your gobbo ways,
That's why you're the best and they're so gay.

I'm looking to start a Chaos Skirmish campaign with a buddy, but it looks like Chaos Hero choices are really darn expensive. At 25 points for battle one, am I really looking at a Lord + Marauder 'army' ... ? That or take a shitty Slaanesh Herald. :(

>>54200989
Play with 35 starting point. There problem solved.

Or just play hinterland.

>>54197907
>>54197941
You can also convert your Daemonettes mixing their kits with Wych bits if you don't want to go with metal models. They go pretty well together.

>>54200814
>What do you guys think?
Not your personal blog

>>54201129

Don't be a dick anon, I like seeing painted models here.

>>54200332
Are you actually stupid?
Literally the entire point of the game is to play the objective. An army that does that well is by definition good, while an army that struggles to do that is bad.

>>54200939
You WANT to bring a skaven chieftain with bsb, your clan rats will fold to battleshock alone.

>>54201181
>An army that does that well is by definition good,
Nope it's definition of good and lucky player, only straight and pitched battle show army power-level.
If his opponent was have more luck on rolling double turns (which is pure random) he would won very easily

>>54201212
I'm thinking taking the Crown relic for my Warlord so he can make my two hordes immune to moral checks every turn.

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>>54201234
playing with objectives makes it so any army can win.
if you have only 1 type of game you are a fox v fox, no items, final destination player (aka a fagget)

>Look at skirmish rules

>No Lord on Daemonic Mount

>No Ogroid Thaumateurge

Sad. The vanilla lord looks like crap.

>>54201411
use skaven you homo

>>54201406
>playing with objectives makes it so any army can win.
Not armies, players, through artificial targets instead of killing enemies
>if you have
We are talking about armies, not about you or me.

>>54201429

Skaven are cool, but eh. I was thinking of supplementing my army with a skirmish warband. Have Tzeentch mortals. I could use Gaunt Summoner but idk - then I'd literally have one model to start unless I took some crappy marauder.

>>54200018
Actually the first draft of the GHB was taken almost point for point from the SCGT

They actually increased the price of monsters from that system, too

>>54200247
looks like a skaven player

>>54201444
actual wars and battles are rarely about "wiping out the other army"

>>54201406
How would those squigs deal with Aetherstrike?

Or mixed Destruction?

or skyfires

Or even a mid tier army like sylvaneth

It would be wiped off the table turn 2. It wasnt a good list

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EMPIRE UP IN THIS BITCH

>>54201470
Fuck the 25 Renown meme.

An Ironjaws Megaboss is 28 Renown. So what, am I supposed to assume the Megaboss got lost on the way to Shadespire and I have to play half the campaign for him to find his boys?

>>54201769
Could make a hilarious comedy though

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>>54201631

>>54201607
So how come the skyfires list didn't win? There was at least one present.
Fuck, how come the other Destruction army he went up against in the final didn't win?

It was a tournament. Better people than you were playing to win, and they failed.

>>54201845
Sure, from a purely narrative standpoint it could be fun as hell, but I'm pretty sure the Ironjaws player who's getting curbstomped because he doesn't have his one good Hero along will find it less amusing.

I mean, 28 Renown. Per game you get 6-10 and some bonuses. So it'll take at least three games, more likely four or five, until you can get him. Either that or you start with an understrength warband, which isn't going to make things easier, either.

>>54201888
I agree 100% My Kharadron are in the same boat sort of. The admiral costs 28. And while I have 2 other characters at 20 I want the admiral damint

>>54201883

>what is a standard deviation and normal distribution curve?

real question is was the probability of this event in the 5% interval or the 10% interval?

>>54201600
1) It's not realistic game
2) Actually all major wars usually ended when one side wiped out enemy\s armies out of existence.
>>54201883
>Better people than you were playing to win, and they failed.
Wow, stop projecting your low self-esteem, it's just not an argument

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>>54200856
If you mean the sick looking Sylvaneth then no, I'm not that anon. I wish I had as much skill, maybe one day.. I'd love to see how the project is going.

You know, I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that aelves got fourth place in the GT's 3rd heat.

>>54176714
Up for preorder in the AOS section of the site right now with new bases.
They're just using the 40k focus to take a little break and work through their rebasing backlog.

>>54205814
>You know, I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that aelves got fourth place in the GT's 3rd heat.
where are the results and lists?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYHy9Fq2HME
Why is he so perfect? I want to be friends with Duncan

>>54206290
never-mind
the elf list was
teclis
2 frost phoenix
1 dragon lord
+ other irrelevant stuff

I have a hard time believing it actually did any good. Snipe Teclis (easy to do) and the phoenixes evaporate. Sure the dragon hits hard but that's not enough.

Why are all the cool heros not in skirmish :(

No waywatcher. I have no idea what to take.

Hey folks, thinking about jumping into AoS with Skirmish because of cost.

Is Skirmish well balanced? I was thinking Stormcast because I like liberators

>>54209092
>Is Skirmish well balanced?
In general it's fine. There are some things that are dumb, mainly heroes that can hit multiple units at once with mortal wounds. In skirmish each model functions as its own unit so it makes those abilities super effective. For example the stormcasts Knight-Azyros has an ability to hit every unit within 8" with D3 mortal wounds. If he were near, say, a 10 man unit in a normal game, he would only kill 1-3. In skirmish though, he just wiped out 10 guys.

>>54207780
>I have no idea what to take.
Actual army

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That fatass skaven looks familiar

>>54210769
Wrong thread bro.

>>>54163529

>>54182504
Okay...

First, you're 'shotgunning' your force, no single focus. I'm not saying it's wrong, but you have no 'hammer.

Two, read the Battalion bonuses for set mixes. There is still a lot of variation and you can always take multiple battalions. Read up on each battalion's bonuses and what it takes to get there. I field the Aether-eater Host, but have not mastered magic yet! I know, I run the wizard faction.

Third, if possible, test out each unit to see how it fits your play style. If you too stink at magic (for now), try one of the non-caster units.

Fourth, don't fear a screw up. Tzeentch is more fickle than Orcs and the same tactics can either cost or win the same battle.

Fifth, have fun with the paint job! All 3 of my Heralds (so far) have the 'moon' heads, one in each Tzeentch color.

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>>54189441
Crew done separately like this

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"Plague Garden" by Josh Reynolds.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/d0yrdqmhq91386i/ONLY_THE_FAITHFUL.mobi

Better late than never. The link will be up for 2 hours.

>>54201631
>>54201868
Missed your dead thread?

damn, this thread isn't archived yet? possibly this is the longest running thread in a month that I am aware of.

>>54211736
Ty! You are a God among men anon

>>54211736
Tsk, mobi.

>>54209092
Skirmish is so broken because GW obviously dident put any fucking effort into making sure the abilities effecting multiple units were balanced.

As >>54209513 mentioned, certain heroes can just fuck up your entire warband for free. Also, certain units that were designed to be taken in high groups get fucked without their size bonuses. Like, a phoenix guard costs 1 more renown than a vulkite berzerker but is better in every single way. My personal favorite interaction comes from the bullgors, when you take a bullgor with a set of drums you get to add +1 to your charge rolls for every unit within 12". This can lead to some hilarious moments where a bullgor gets close to a bunch of clan rats and charges 20+ inches to the other side of the board.

The fact that GW allowed people to take captain/banner/instrument models is dumb as fuck. Why could they not just go "yeah those effects don't work in skirmish because fuck you" to make it easier.

I guess skirmish can be a good intro to the game, so long as you realize that it can also be hilariously broken. Personally, I would look into Ironjawz or SCE since those were the two factions GW seems to have designed the game around.

>>54211736
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/d0yrdqmhq91386i/ONLY_THE_FAITHFUL.mobi

Eh, get back to me when you've uploaded it in a proper format.

>>54211527
That's actually a good way to magnetise it both for claw and cannon

>>54213073
Beggars cannot be choosers. Mobi is best format.

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are these guys actually any good as an alternative to summoning daemons?

https://mega.nz/#!mFITwKKI!hzyuUR6tDrnhm9tkwcDod0HyDPU07FQhx3PyVaaPxGA

Plague Garden now in ePub form

>>54213618
Is this an old warsxroll? It's not the one on the gw site.

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>>54213853
>https://mega.nz/#!mFITwKKI!hzyuUR6tDrnhm9tkwcDod0HyDPU07FQhx3PyVaaPxGA

Confirmed as real, many thanks.

>>54213905
Yeah it's in the Warriors of Chaos compendium.

Tournaments and picky fuckers might not let you use it because there's only points available for a "Lord of Chaos".

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>>54201631
I really, really like how the Empire aesthetic is almost 100% grounded in 17th century-land; it's honestly probably my single favourite depiction of humans in any fantasy setting I've seen. I just know that GW is going to completely fuck everything up and make their new 'regular dudes' faction (if they ever fucking make one) as painfully generic dude high fantasy lmao as the Stormcast, and that's just depressing.

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Everything we know of the lore points otherwise. Read all the material from shadows over hammerhal and look at the illustrations (esp the architecture). It's very much the same, to the point where it could be confused for the classic journey-style artbook 'blood on the reik'. Of course some parts are very azyrheim-like though. Also read city of secrets. Freeguild/freepeoples are very much like empire was, but with a different greater context. Also see the cover of 'Eight Lamentations: Spear of Shadows', which shows what looks like a ironweld gunmaster, replete with puffy sleeves, repeating pistol and goggles.

>>54214353
Missed thread again, fantasycuck?

>>54214526
>It's very much the same
Nope, architecture is much closer to Azyrheim
Also
>BL
>canon
>Freeguild/freepeoples are very much like empire was
>Atra Millitarum structure

>Also see the cover of 'Eight Lamentations: Spear of Shadows', which shows what looks like a ironweld gunmaster, replete with puffy sleeves, repeating pistol and goggles.
And with 19 century rifle
Also, new elves literally using Dark Eldar armor design

>>54200939
You are going to totally fuck him..

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Anyone know what Duncan used to kitbash for his custom Knight Questor? Is it just a fancy Liberator with a cape and crested helm?

>>54214353
>as painfully generic dude high fantasy lmao
I wouldn;t call steampunk version of Skitarii or Admech is generic

>>54214526
>DE legs
>again

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>>54182665

>>54196090

2 years?? I think pity just overwhelmed any annoyance I'd previously felt. That's sad.

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Guys, moonclan grots got reboxed with rounds. Their picture still shows squares somehow

>>54214669

It's the Questor from silver tower + round shield from the Excelsior upgrade pack, plus vandus hammerhand's helmet (from the starter set) I think.

>>54214526
Is that vampire or dark elf?
Also
>fireslayer have noraml-size weapon

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>>54214557

If you had actually read the materials from shadows over hammerhal, you'd know it specifically says in the opener of the guidebook than only a small portion of the city is actually anything like azyrheim.

"Yet despite Hammerhal's splendorous facade, most of its citizens never experience a fraction of that opulence for themselves. For those who live in the outer districts life is full of toil and danger, a far cry from the glorious future that the free peoples of Azyr once imagined."

>Nope, architecture is much closer to Azyrheim

See pic. Also GW states here (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/19/closer-look-the-city/) that "Many of these images are reminiscent of cities from the Old World, but with a more expansive, grander and fantastical aspect that sets them firmly within the Mortal Realms"

>Atra Millitarum structure

Citation? Also please learn to spell. It's 'Astra Militarum'.

>And with 19 century rifle

They're still using blackpowder weapons, what does it matter?

>>54216329
>If you had actually read the materials from shadows over hammerhal, you'd know it specifically says in the opener of the guidebook than only a small portion of the city is actually anything like azyrheim.
1) We are talking about cover art, which looks exactly like Azyrheim.
>"Yet despite Hammerhal's splendorous facade, most of its citizens never experience a fraction of that opulence for themselves. For those who live in the outer districts life is full of toil and danger, a far cry from the glorious future that the free peoples of Azyr once imagined."
So it's high-advanced, but DANGEROUS city, okay, it's more like Hive-city.
>but with a more expansive, grander and fantastical aspect that sets them firmly within the Mortal Realms"
So magitech hive-cities
>Citation?
Infantry regiments, armoured divisions, air corp, nothing like Empire.
>It's 'Astra Militarum'.
Sorry, phoneposting.
>what does it matter?
Well, you are claming
>Freeguild/freepeoples are very much like empire was,
while well, WHFB humans doesn't have XIX century rifles

ffs, it's the same stupid legacytardposting, why do you people keep replying.

>>54216329
Ignore him, he is a troll. If you don't feed him, he will starve and wither away.

>>54216509
Because fantasycucks wants to believe their npc armies still relevant

>>54210769
top kek

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>high-advanced

Be specific. What do you mean by this? Also learn english already. You should be using the adverb "highly".

>Infantry regiments

Because blocks of infantry weren't in WFB?

>armoured divisions

Citation needed, and also very vague, what exactly are you referring to?.

>Air corp

Which is composed of the very same dwarf flying machines found in WFB, namely gyrocopters. Do I need to post a "READ NIGGA READ" Uncle Ruckus meme?

>while well, WHFB humans doesn't have XIX century rifles

Half-to-one century of firearms advances hardly makes anything "highly advanced". It's blackpowder weaponry. It's not high-tech. You're arguing semantics over the nature of a rifle, of which only 1/4 is visible in the pic.

Just because they've restructured what goes with what doesn't at all make anything "high tech" or radically different from the aesthetic of the old world, which is what the original post was about. Sure, there's a few glittering magical cities and whatnot. I'm not denying that. What I'm saying is that you can't bring up fucking azyrheim, the biggest and best goddamn city in the setting and pretend all the others are just like it. The city in the picture of the cover art is excelsior, the same one as from city of secrets (read the preview description for proof). Again, the book states very clearly that in that city, a portion of it is ornate and inspired by azyrheim (hence the pic), but much of it poor and downtrodden. So sure, you've got tall dome topped buildings in the background, but even those aren't new, just more common now.

Also what don't you get about a direct quote from GW saying these images (of hammerhal) are similar to cities from the old world? Again, it's a mix of old and new, but the old style tiled buildings with wood cladding are very much there.

>>54216879
>Be specific.
Kharadon/Skaven-tier (basically victorian age) magitech, is it enough?
>Citation needed,
Ironweld Arsenal, only tanks and artillery.
>Which is composed of the very same dwarf flying machines found in WFB, namely gyrocopters.
And so what? I'am talking about military structure.
>Half-to-one century of firearms advances hardly makes anything "highly advanced". It's blackpowder weaponry. It's not high-tech.
>all blackpowder weaponry are the same tech-level
Guess, you never read about opium wars?
>What I'm saying is that you can't bring up fucking azyrheim, the biggest and best goddamn city in the setting and pretend all the others are just like it.
But I can and your own citations saying that free people cities is much more highly advanced than WHFB.
>hence the pic
Invalid.
>but the old style tiled buildings with wood cladding are very much there.
Where? All what we've seen is made from stone or gold.

>>54216879
>namely gyrocopters.
Yeah because it's special WHFB word.

>>54216879
>the biggest and best goddamn city in the setting and pretend all the others are just like it.
This city reflects free people tech-level in setting