Paizo Games General /pgg/

>>54080734
>losing a battle
>crying when you're about to get executed

post your character concepts, my dudes.
I love hearing about them.

I saw a nightmare of being an app character and being rejected and shunned and belittled for lack of optimization
I feel like I'm going nuts

>>54080770
I was thinking I'd play a fucking loser who likes paizo games and general threads, alignment chaotic evil

>>54080770
Step 1: Put an obscene amount of poppets modified for being somewhat competent at combat into a bag of holding

Step 2: Turn Bag of holding inside out in a crowded city square.

I love this picture. Can you imagine how much fun it would be to utterly break another human being's spirit and have her groveling in front of you for her very life, or even for a painless death? I honestly wonder how long it would take to die from a shot to the neck or head from one of those old flintlock pistols. Like, do they even have the velocity to kill someone instantly like a normal gun? I considered using one of those to blow my head off back when I wanted to commit suicide. In the end I just tried to hang myself instead. When I played a necromancer in Pathfinder I liked to torture some of the people I captured before I killed them and resurrected them as zombies. Mind games were my favorite. For example, you must stab one of your children to death in order to save your three others. Mathematically, maybe even morally, you are a bad person if you let A, B, C, and D die instead of just D dying. It's not even like saving one group over another, it's literally less death if you do it. So you basically have to, morally speaking. Also forcing an enemy bandit to watch my character rape his daughter and he had to cum to it or else I would kill her. Worked WAY better than Zone of Truth.

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>>54080824

>>54080824
Hi Vult.

>>54080833
Oh shit was that a weird post? I'm REALLY drunk right now, I had to retype sentences like 3 times to make sure I was spelling and doing grammar correctly. Fuck I came her to ask something about building a good crossbow ranger or something but I can't remember my exact question, I saw the OP pic and got distracted....

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>>54080824

Why would anyone ever go bonded item instead of familiar. All the things you can do with a familiar is way better than an extra spell

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>>54080824
Based

>>54080875
Because they're going for a theme I'd guess.

So why is this thread /pgg/ if /sfg/ exists?

Why are we still /pgg/ when /sfg/ exists?

>>54080866
>>54080876
I'm sorry. Can you guys give me advice on a good crossbow ranger build? Like with repeateing crossbow or something? I know Crossbows are shit in Pathfinder but I really want to build this elvish big game hunter with a wide brimmed had, idk why. Kinda like that guy in the second jurassic park movie.

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>>54080849
Is this bait or ironic or something

>>54080889
>>54080892
kek

>>54080893
Bolt ace Gunslinger.

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>>54080824
>Also forcing an enemy bandit to watch my character rape his daughter and he had to cum to it or else I would kill her.

>>54080883
>>54080883
When I think wizard I think familiar. Anyone who takes bonded item is a retard

>>54080917
I mean, I don't; in my mind a Wizard is just a supercaster. Having a cat or rat is like, witch or warlock.

>>54080824
I'm playing a chaotic evil barbarian who kills and rapes almost everyone he comes across. I once raped a animal because a little girl was watching

>>54080922
You're fucking wrong. Wizards always have familiars.

>>54080941
*plays an Exploiter*
Oh snap son what now

>>54080948
>Actually playing an archetype instead of the base class

Do you piss in jugs under the table too you fucking retard?

>>54080977
Yeah d-d-dude you're right core only is the best.

>>54080977
Exploiter Wizard is pretty fucking good mate.

>>54080995
If you play an archetype you may as well play a lolsorandum kender because you are lame, boring and dumb and can't make real characters

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>>54081013
Aight kid

>>54081019
Kid? I'm a billionaire body builder with a supermodel wife. What do you got going for you?

>>54080875
I don't like familiars. They're useful, I know. I don't like them. At least you can fucntion as a wizard without one.

Psions basically HAVE to take a psicrystal because Deep Focus has way too much feat tax for much less benefit than Psicristal affinity+containment.

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>>54080977
>>54081013
Come on Anon at least try with your bait. You can do better then this.

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>>54080770

newborn Atstreidi who wants to see the world and find out what this "Love" thing is. it sounds fascinating.

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>>54080769

I feel really bad for if you and anyone who has ever known you if you think that crying is a sign of weakness, Anon.

>>54081065
It literally is.

Granted, when your about to be shot in the head/raped then shot is probably a good time to cry. I don't think anyone can fault you in that situation for doing so.

>>54081065
I don't but considering she presumably lost the battle, the least she can do is die without crying since it won't help at this point.

>>54081065
Crying is a sign of honesty. Honesty is also known as weakness depending what you're being honest about; it's also variously known as a sign of stupidity, tactlessness, or virtue, depending on what exactly you were honest about.

>>54080770
Local Ustalavic son of ancient, but unimportant noble family comes home from hunting one day to find home burned down. He takes his father's lance and the only surviving horse and hunts down the party responsible for it.

>>54081047
Not a real wizard without a familiar. Just some shitty edgelord who thinks he's too cool to play anything but a teifling or a drow

>>54081124
Even core Wizard doesn't have to take a familiar you know.

>>54080770
Unapologetic Belmont rip-off. How would I best go about doing it, as a Ranger with a focus on anti-Undead, or as a Talisman Crafter Occultist for all of those neat throwable "spells"?

>>54080770
a girl that was experiemented upon by a cult of Oooar-Oooung and turned into a transforming qlippoth-spawn; basically the Abomination from Darkest Dungeon in practice. Refluffed Synthesist Summoner.

>>54080770
Mountain hermit shortstack archer that survives until meeting the party through force of will and skill alone

>>54081143
Doesn't matter. People who take bonded items do so because they have no other way to give their character personality other than "look how unique I am lol I DONT have a familiar"

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>>54081100

I hope someone cheats on you.

>>54081176
You can't deny what I just said.

>>54081164
Wouldn't familiars be the "doesn't have a personality option".

Having a lolsorandom talking frog/cat/whatever the fuck seems more snowflakey.

>>54081065
Crying is weakness. Never let them see you sweat, boy. Be strong all the time. Even when you sleep.

>>54081082

>Crying has physical, emotional, and spiritual benefits
>It's for the weak!

Who hurt you Anon?

>>54081164
Counterpoint: having a staff is awesome

I ONLY CRY BLOOD.

IT'S A SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION.

MAKES ME TERRIFYING ON THE BATTLEFIELD THOUGH.

I CRY A LOT.

>>54081206
Never cry. If you're a real man, you'll keep your feelings in check.

>>54081206
It doesn't actually have any of those benefits unless you're actively holding back your tears, in which case it doesn't provide benefits it helps negate the problems that arise from repression, and even then 'buckling' can often result in its own emotional issues. More to the point, someone who doesn't need to cry and recieve those benefits sounds like the definition of stronger - they get on fine without benefits. It's like the caster who gets on fine without magic items; he's stronger than the martial who absolutely needs them.

>>54081211
You can have a staff without making it a "this staff was passed down by my ancestors because I'm super unique and edgy" staff.

>>54081206
You can be sad without crying. I've been sad a lot lately but the tears literally would not come, it's not even as if I didn't want to it just didn't happen. I cry more at fucking Baba Yetu than I cry at stuff that makes me sad, stuff that makes me sad just, well, makes me sad.

>>54081239
That's not what a Bonded Item is, a Bonded Item is a focus, which is why you get fucked up bad if it breaks. It's literally just a tool you use to cast your spells.

>>54081226
>>54081206
>>54081065
Listen up, motherfuckers. People cry when they can't contain their feelings. Those feelings can be positive or negative, but the fact is that you lost control. That's weakness.

If you're strong, you're able to put a lid on all your emotions. Push that shit down and don't ever, ever let it surface. Don't give me that shit that it's not possible. It is possible -- for the strong.

>>54081263
You haven't considered "I don't feel like controlling it".

>>54081271
Weak.

>>54081263
Have fun having an emotional breakdown in a few years and developing a psychosis or two
You'll be a lot stronger then desu
Pretty solid bait though

>>54081274
Wizard 20: I don't feel like killing you without even moving.
Rogue 1: HAHA WEAK!

Is this too mini-maxy?

https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1257519

>>54081281
I'll let you know how it works out.

>>54081281
>Have fun having an emotional breakdown in a few years and developing a psychosis or two
You're also a retard. Are you Espagnoll or someone?

>>54081180

Yes, I can. You're using a fallacy of illicit transference.

>>54081254
>Look at me I cast spells through my bonded item aren't I unique guess I don't need a personality

>>54081263
Speaking as someone who hasn't cried in over fifteen years and suspects his tear ducts don't even work, I've absolutely come to respect the notion that being able to cry in itself is a type of strength.

Sometimes it feels like my heart is trying to tear it's way out of my throat and I can't manage to find any expression in the mirror.

>>54081283
What is power if it is not used? Can it be said to be strength if it is not tested?

>>54081288
A what?
Also, nice argument.

>>54081288
>espagnoll

ah now there's a name.

>>54081263

>If you're strong, you're able to put a lid on all your emotions. Push that shit down and don't ever, ever let it surface.

This is why you don't have any real life friends.

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>>54081281
>Not being a whiny fuckboi makes you go crazy
>The anon calls the other post bait.

>>54081302
Something infants are born able to do isn't really an impressive feat. Sounds like you need to toughen up your mind, man. Get hard.

>>54081295
Howso? Crying is a sign of honesty - you refuse to lie to yourself about how you feel. But honesty can be weakness - you're UNABLE to lie when it matters. Or it can be tactless - you're not SUPPOSED to tell someone they look like a Troll's arse. Or it can be stupid - telling the officer you're using a fake passport is retarded. Or it can be virtuous - to speak the truth when it would benefit you to lie.

>>54081304
What kind of argument is this even

>>54081317
He's saying repression actually becomes an issue, which is true, but he's also retarded because he's exaggerating. The other poster is a baiting retard because he unironically believes in being le ebin Powerman "Strong Man".

>>54081314
>You don't cry like a bitch.
>You must have no friends.

>>54081317
Aggressively repressing your emotions is a really easy way to break something internal.

>>54081340
>all your emotions
Happiness is an emotion. Annoyance is an emotion. All your actions are affected by emotion and values which result in emotions; If I wanted to speak to an emotionless robot I'd talk to Cortana or Siri.

>>54081304

>What is power if it is not used?
Power currently not in use

>Can it be said to be strength if it is not tested?
Who makes the test?

it doesn't matter if a man is more or less powerful if he cries, for I am more powerful then all of you combined

>>54081304
>a muay thai master suddenly stops being dangerous because he isn't killing you right now
???

>>54081336
>Crying is a sign of honesty - you refuse to lie to yourself about how you feel.
>Implying people don't cry when they don't know how they feel.

Anon.............

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>>54081366
this

>Writing homebrew class
>Realize that with ability scaling and the timing of its "talents" that it gets, I really only need a fluffy 8th level and 14th-level ability along with a capstone to have this thing in a mostly playable state
>Of course I have to fill out the talent list but that should be pretty easy

>>54081372
They don't. Confusion is an emotion; feeling overwhelmed is something that happens but still a feeling. You can't (actually) cry when you feel nothing, even if you don't know what it is you feel. I mean actors sometimes can, but even actors sometimes use tricks like specifically triggering a feeling and letting it boil over inside them, kind of like how some people can work themselves into a rage by turning anger over in their heads.

>>54081318
The idea that crying is weak is just arbitrary machismo. Crying is one of the few things science can agree on being a good practice, and while I do think it's good to suck things up and carry on when there're matters at hand, there's absolutely no reason to just hold back on it all of the time.

I spent a lot of years refusing to cry no matter what kind of shit happened in life and I regret it. Acting tough isn't worth shit, it's something little boys do and I hate how time I've spent acting like someone who just doesn't care. I'd wager I'd come off as a lot harder than most people in this thread, I've got scars enough out of looking it, but this attitude is why we've got uneducated gangsters and stupid militants.

Someone who can cry and pick themselves up has my respect. People are strong because they come back from their worse, not because they look tough at their best.

True man just gets drunk and beats his wife to relief emotional pressure

>>54081336
>>54081302
>>54081263
I don't know about you guys, but I make a conscious and extreme effort to never lose my shit for anything. My parents were very, very emotionally unstable and it was crap. I think it's repugnant to spill your spaghetti for any reason. I ain't saying to be an unfeeling robot, but I think it's better for people to keep their emotions dialed down really, really, really low. Not crying comes with that.

>>54081399
>Crying is one of the few things science can agree on being a good practice
No, science can agree that not repressing your emotions is a good idea; there is no evidence that crying is somehow a more effective means of relief than screaming into your pillow or just sitting in a stupor thinking through what happened.

Honestly how can someone call themselves a true man if they aren't locked up in chastity dressed like a girl and fucked in the ass by a woman with a strapon like come on guys.

>>54081403
Keeping your emotions in control is something you need to do, but keeping it in control also means knowing when to let it loose for a bit. Someone who can loosen his control to sperg about how fucking retarded his boss is at his friend or cry on his sister/brother's shoulder about his best friend getting hit by Truck-kun and tighten it again when it's time to move on is perfectly fine. LOSING control is different from loosening control.

>>54081399
Science also agrees that never reaching a boiling point at all is better than any other form of stress relief.

Like I said in >>54081403 it's better to just not feel that strongly in the first place. You won't have to cry or rage or work it out in some way if it just didn't bother you that much.

I guarantee all these desperate wannabe "tough guys" talking about how you shouldn't cry in a fucking general thread for a shitty game of pretend on an anime image board have never had anything actually genuinely bad happen to them in their sheltered lives lol

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>>54081428
He's got a point

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>>54081436
>Like I said in >>54081403 it's better to just not feel that strongly in the first place. You won't have to cry or rage or work it out in some way if it just didn't bother you that much.
That's not what he's saying, he's saying that he's actively pushing emotions he feels back. Also pic related.

>>54081434
Honestly? No, not really. The best thing to do is just feel less.

>>54081455
>the best thing to do is to be a cold robot who doesn't blink when his friend gets hit by a truck or when he's faced with a pay cut for literally nothing
>he's just above it all mang, got no personal attachments, feel so numb
Literally crawling.

Was this thread always full of stupid teenagers who pretend to know shit?

So I finally created my first character

He's a genius candy maker (alchemist) who flaunts his candies (extracts) as miracle cures for whatever ails you. In fact he's a compulsive liar and just selling ordinary candies. He only has so much magic and needs to save that for the demonstrations.

>>54081471
Summer.

>>54081465
>>54081454
No, not like that. Think serenity.

>>54081445
Of course I am, honestly, if you're not able to have anal only orgasms, you're not a man at all.

>>54081476
If you're talking about buddhism that is literally what it is. The endstate of enlightenment is to literally have no attachments to anything. Mom died? It's fine, just let go. Dad got cancer, no biggie, not attached. The endgoal of it is literally to become a nihilistic edgelord.

>>54081455

The apathetic man is worse than the wrongly impassioned one.

There is a difference between potential energy and a lack of it.

>>54081488

>The endgoal of Buddhism is literally to become a nihilistic edgelord.

L
O
L

>>54081474
I would lambast you for the summerfag meme, but fuck me, I'm inclined to agree at this point.
Jesus Christ

>>54081488
Sure, but let's talk realistically. It's not outrageous to say if you were less invested, say like 20% less emotionally invested, you'd end up being a lot calmer and happier overall.

>>54081500
"Suffering stems from attachment"
Literally the entire point is to lose your attachment to the earthly realm and thereby transcend suffering. People are greedy, envious, saddened, etc. because they lose things or see things they haven't gained and the Buddha says the way to overcome this is simple to not want any of it.

>>54081263
Anon, western culture has changed. Emotional men are weak. It's not like how it was before the 50's anymore.

>>54081455
>nothing matters bro
>emotions is for weaklings
>no need to feel
>cold as ice bro
I fucking hate teenage nihilists, the worst part is how they don't actually understand nihilism

Unless you're dressed like a girl and getting pounded you're not a man you're just a faggot

>>54081513
That's not nihilism anymore

>>54081502
"Meme"
Moot said it wasn't really a thing in like, what, '11? That is SIX YEARS AGO. '11 is closer to Chanology than it is to the present day, how do we know if it's still valid?

>>54081523
I'm not speaking about nihilism. I'm saying you should just be less emotionally invested. A non-zero amount of emotional investment that is less than the current value. You'll feel a lot better on the whole.

>>54081511

Wouldn't you also be 20% less happy?

>>54081286
Alchemist looks good, and you're investing quite heavily in Bluff, which just means you actually have a usable skill modifier at level 1. I don't see anything wrong with this. If you weren't going so hard for Bluff, I'd replace Fast Talker with Pragmatic Activator (Int to UMD) or Inspired (reroll failed skill check 1/day), and could definitely use that Skill Focus for something else. In other words, by trying to make an Alchemist that lies well, you're less optimized than you theoretically could be. He looks like he could be a fun character, though.

>>54081511
You wouldn't be happier overall, you'd be less emotional in general overall. That's the thing you don't get, someone who is less invested gains less joy from success just as he gets less angry or sad at failure. Someone who isn't invested in his marriage doesn't feel as much joy when he has his first kid even if he's not as sad when his wife dies thirty years down the road.

>>54080734
I didn't know Virt plays Pathfinder

>>54081539
Moot said that the amount of traffic doesn't change that much. What people fail to realize about this is that just looking at the amount of traffic doesn't count for when some posters spend less time on 4chan because it's summer and there's other shit to do, and summerfag posters replace them.

>>54081513
Mahayana buddhism kind of glosses over that part a bit though, doesn't it?

>>54081571
That's what I always assumed. I mean for one, during the summer a lot of working people use this time to get together with friends or something, or are just too overheated to spend time on the site; grad students sometimes go travelling. It's the underage kids who become as NEETs.

>>54081550
>>54081562
Maybe, but you're a lot more peaceful on both the daily level and on the overall level. I see happiness as peace, myself. A nice and pleasant sort of emotional white noise. Different from the loudness and vibrancy of joy.

>>54081595
Good for you, go reach enlightenment. Being sad, for me at least, is its own form of enjoyabilty - when you're sad with someone else you can form a new connection right there.

>>54081595
That's being content, and to a degree, complacent

Is it worth it to get a buckler over other shields?

>>54081519
>Men are weak
Fixed that for you. It doesn't have anything to do with the culture or era. There isn't anything wrong with this, the only people who can say things like "suck it up" or "man up" haven't ever had it bad. If babies cry about everything, then it's the realm of teens to worry about appearances.

Fact of the matter is that having feelings isn't equivalent to throwing a tantrum. Mature people have them, they deal with them best as they can, and they accept that it's okay if they fail sometimes. You hold yourself back and you might not explode, I certainly haven't yet, but all you do is make yourself an island. Soon enough the only place you can show any semblance of emotion is on anonymous Vietnamese photowebs.

I hope you'll believe me when I say that I'm coming at this from the angle of someone who's had a lot of tragedy, a lot of putting up with it, and a lot of "being hard". Emotion becomes a problem when it's let to become a problem, keeping yourself in check is a completely different game from trying to feel a little bit less of anything at all. I'm way past the point of no return now, I hope no one else follows.

>>54081626
If you're using a bow, or are playing a caster and using a mithril version of it, absolutely. Otherwise you're using a Heavy Shield; Light Shield isn't worth it even if you're two-weapon fighting, and Tower Shields are laughably-bad.

>>54081609
I don't know about enlightenment, but I'd much rather be qualitatively less sad than feel so bad that I'm driven to others. Sure, I'm still disappointed and upset sometimes, but it passes without much fanfare and I get back to feeling pretty good.

>>54081613
Not sure about complacent, but content is a good way to describe it. I am content every day.

>>54081641
Worrying about appearances is something everyone past teenage years does because by the time you're a teenager, you learn to judge others based on how they act. Someone who obviously cracks under pressure and can't 'tough it out', well, sadly they may not have a place in a company that does high pressure work. Someone who is kind of a prick whenever things go wrong might not belong in group-based workplaces. That's how societies operate. Teenagers are fucked because they worry about appearances when it actually doesn't fucking matter, your goddamn mother is not going to judge you for crying about your guniea pig dying.

>>54081641
>Emotion becomes a problem when it's let to become a problem, keeping yourself in check is a completely different game from trying to feel a little bit less of anything at all.
But which is better? Should we all just let go?

>>54081711
Not him but having control of your emotions, again, is being able to loosen control when it's appropriate to do so. If your best friend is trying to give you company because you suffered some huge loss, it isn't healthy - or fucking courteous for that matter - to wave it off and say "nah mate it don't matter".

>>54081641
>There isn't anything wrong with this, the only people who can say things like "suck it up" or "man up" haven't ever had it bad.
Except, anon, that those attitudes are formed by tough situations. Not incidents of tragedy, but communities where everything is shit forever.

>>54081734
I think your best friend would know you better than to think you wanted company. You're thinking more of like a casual acquaintance. It would be sort of rude to turn down their company, but also they don't know you that well so it's not a big deal.

New session tonight, had a no-show but we made due anyway. It's going to be a while until we can play again, here's hoping that we'll still be good to go when August comes around.

Is there a magic item that chants my name every time I make a dramatic appearance? Can I make one?

>>54081773
He wouldn't be your friend if you were numb to the point where it literally didn't matter.

>>54081807
Intelligent Items can do that sometimes, and yeah it doesn't even need to be a magic item - Permanancy + Magic Mouth.

>>54081734
>>54081808
Low emotional investment dude here. Had this happen (Grandma died, I do miss her) and all that came of it was a phone call where I told him I'd be okay. Ended up not being a big thing.

>>54081751

No they aren't. They are formed by situations where the people are told to deny the tragedy that is happening before them. Not to cope with it, not to fix it, to just ignore it. They are toxic cultures that collapse on themselves. They only know stagnation while the awful world they live in and sustain wears them down.

>>54073532
>Do not, DO NOT do this. Instead be a celestial blooded bloodrager with eldritch heritage for orc. That'll make you the same thematically and much stronger mechanically.
But Sorcerer Orc Bloodline sucks floppy donkey dicks for a bloodrager desu. It would be tolerable if you got the arcana through Eldritch Heritage, but you don't.

>>54081734
>>54081808
>>54081829

Here's a shocking revelation for autists: People are different.

>>54081860
You are literally wrong here. It isn't tragedy for them, it's literally every day. That's how they deal with things, because if they were 'normally' sad all the fucking time they'd end up more dysfunctional than they are.

>>54081860
So yeah, communities where everything is shit forever.

>>54081860
>>54081881
>"I know your brother was murdered in the bed next to you and your mother and sister were just taken away screaming...but it's the jungle out here, boy. That's the way it is. You're going to have to get hard to survive. So stop crying and help me bury your brother."

>>54081881
You realize that if what you're saying is true, then you'd be acknowledging that those communities constantly go from bad to worse until something forces them to get emotional and care right? I mean this is literally an observable fact covered by mainstream news on the regular.

>>54081868
Why does it suck? Isn't the STR boost non-morale?

>>54080770
Communism Princess

>>54081941
By emotional you mean their new tyrant storms the country with his men and basically nothing changes? Yes, that happens a lot.

>>54081941
It doesn't because sometimes there is shit-all they can do and the answer really is to tough it out. If your shithole village is suffering from a famine and people are dropping like flies what the fuck are you going to do, harvesting season has already passed. If some superpower is stomping your shit what can you do besides hope they'll either win or grow bored soon?

>>54081951
So are we going to be seeing her?

On that topic, is vigilante noble girl going to show up?

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>>54081951
Please hurry and apply with her

>>54080734
noooo!
shes too hot to die!

>>54081881

You are literally wrong. Every person I met who spouted "man up" was a selfish prick looking to advance themselves at the expense of all others. They wanted to create a system where people drag each other now in a race for some abstract "top." That or they were so swept up in establishing themselves as some kind of red-pill-popping alpha they refused to see the problems (and solutions) right in front of them. They are people who don't look for good solutions, only ways to secure themselves as ahead of others.

>>54081860
Bullshit. Buuuuuuullshit. You're acting like medieval societies were permanently dysfunctional or somehow less caring than modern ones, and collapsed on their own because they didn't deal with the endemic death and suffering. It's just part of life, and you deal with it as part of life. This ridiculous introspective navel-gazing depressive attitude towards loss is extremely modernist, and it needs to die, bdcause THAT is what leads to dysfunctional societies obsessing over pointless shit.

>>54081890

No such thing as "shit forever" and that's the problem. They have adopting a culture that accepts fixable problems as forever because they have been broken by the system they are in. It's not a sign of strength, it's weakness. They are broken.

Is there any way to grant non reach weapons the reach quality? Besides ZS Warder

>>54081986
Or they're from shitty situations beyond your ability to sympathize with. I remember an African I met in college who calmly told me about how his whole village was killed when he was a boy and he survived because he ran away in the night while urinating and defecating all over himself. He also had a Get Hard mentality.

>>54081986
And you probably live in a first world country where the worst things have ever gotten are eating hot pockets every day and living in a shack that still costs three digits of rent instead of one. "Getting tough" is a requirement when your normal shit is just that bad. If someone who is in the freezing cold all day because he got kicked out of a job in a shithole village spends all his time complaining about it instead of shutting the fuck up and getting his shit together, and LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION, then he's going to fucking die in the freezing cold because facts are nobody around him can afford to feed his ass either unless they're going to make their kids starve.

>>54081956

Are you actually posting from Central Africa or in ISIS controlled lands?.

>>54082006
>accepts fixable problems
Tell me more about how a tiny village getting raided by Navy SEALS is going to solve the problem of americans with machine guns except trying to tough it out as best they can. Some problems aren't fucking fixable. Sometimes you really do need to just deal with it, even while you're figuring out the solution. If you spent all your time crying about the 88th person to die this month then you may well be the 89th.

>>54082039
Maybe I am the terrorist. What then?

>>54081961
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>>54082039

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>>54081949
That's, like, 3 bloodline powers in. That's a significant investment, considering that you're passing on many of the nice, nice aasimar, human, half-orc or orc feats you could take (depending on how the GM would call it).

>>54082063
I've been there before but why does it matter?

>>54082046

And those people never cry? Because it sounds like you are describing people who literally have experienced severe trauma which would explain why they would adopt such a non-sense short-term solution of "Get Hard."

So yeah, if you adopt the whole "don't cry, get hard" then you are emotionally stunted, living in an unhealthy brain space and ideally you want to be able to cry again.

What feats are worth it for sword+shield?

>>54081986
>being this far up your own ass
Just because you enjoy wallowing in your own weakness and look for validation of your deficiancies doesn't mean that others need to deal with your bullshit desu. Man the fuck up and deal with shit to the best of your ability. Nothing selfish about that.

>>54082099
Irrelevant; environments that make people actually 'get hard' are generally those environments where not getting hard is either highly detrimental or outright fucking lethal. For one that isn't lethal - Wall Street and similar districts. You don't need to be 'hard' at home, but you do need to suck up the pressure and operate - or you're fired.

>>54082084

Because I'm trying to understand why someone would jump to "WELL IF YOU WERE LIVING IN A PLACE WITH EMOTIONAL TRAUMA THEN YEAH YOU WOULDN'T CRY"

If you were someone from that area I could sympathize with you and your plight.

If you are a fucking gringo ass motherfucker bringing that shit up just to try and be right then I can tell you to shut the fuck up you bitch. Get over your "men don't cry" bullshit and talk about your fucking feelings you little bitch.

>>54082121

The only excuse for a human to shun their emotions is life or death scenarios.

The attitude of many American businesses to shun emotions for the sake of MONEY DEAR BOY is a blight on the civilization. It is a cancer in the culture that will lead to its unraveling.

>>54082125
You kinda sound like the bitch here, to be honest.

>>54082006
Not true. You're the one that is broken, by rfusing to deal with things and instead obsess over how sad everything is and how we need to grieve and cry and wallow for a bit, not doing anything about anything INSTEAD of actually fixing things.

>>54082120

See what I mean? It's not that you think other people shouldn't cry because it will make them strong. You just don't want to interact with those emotions because you don't know how to handle those emotions.

>>54082140
>The only excuse for a human to shun their emotions is life or death scenarios.
What if they just don't want to feel strongly about things?

>>54082125
No it's not "you wouldn't cry", it's "sometimes it's not fucking time to cry and you need to deal with it or fuck off because normal people with their own problems don't have time for your shit". Letting yourself go when it's time to let yourself go is one thing but letting yourself go when it's NOT time to let yourself go is even worse than repressing your feelings forever. It might be unhealthy to repress the pressure and trauma and stress and just hardline deal with all the bullshit flying your way, but if you're expelled, or fired, or killed, or homeless if you don't that's far worse.

>>54082140
>The attitude of many American businesses to shun emotions for the sake of MONEY DEAR BOY is a blight on the civilization. It is a cancer in the culture that will lead to its unraveling.
Completely irreelvant to the fact that if you're fired, you will soon lose things you actually care about. "Sucking it up" will always be necessary because the entire point of 'work' is that people don't want to be doing it, that's why you're getting paid for doing it - and why you'll be fired if you're not doing it even after you're paid. If we had everything as you like it, no stress, civilization would collapse; nobody wants to work, everyone wants their own fucking castle, everyone wants to do whatever they want but until you unironically have post scarcity communism you can fuck right off.

>>54082155
It will make you stronger to always be able to put your shit away. And because you can do it, you probably should do it.

>>54082140
>The only excuse for a human to shun their emotions is life or death scenarios.
It's not about shunning emotion, it is about dealing with them. Other than that, you just described semitic materialism, whether we call it capitalism or communism, in a nutshell, and Jews are indeed the bane of civilization.

>>54082155
Being able to shove emotions aside when you don't have time to be dealt with later when you do is a skill, and one normal people have. People who can't are called bitches and needy cunts who need THEIR problems dealt with RIGHT NOW.

>>54082073
That's fair. What about VMC'ing Sorcerer, would that be any better?

>>54082147

> rfusing to deal with things
>obsess over how sad everything is
>we need to grieve and cry and wallow for a bit

Do you see how the first two run contrary to the third? A few seconds, a few minutes, an hour, a week, a day, fuck even a month in extreme cases is nothing in the grand scheme of your life or all of human existence. If we are talking about a literal bomb going off in the next few minutes then, sure, put a lid on it.

Hence the previous statement about the whole "are you living in Central Africa / ISIS country?"

Because if you aren't then you are just looking for excuses to maintain your crippled emotions instead of trying to fix them.

>>54082197
Repressed emotions never hurt anybody until they tried to use them in a way that they haven't been tailored for.

>>54082157

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh then that's their choice? I think that it's a really silly choice that runs opposite of what our bodies/brains are designed to do and I can't understand why anyone would want to live such a stifled life but sure. Just don't go and try to drag other people into your bullshit.

>>54082191
Communism is like the opposite of materialism. It's trying to solve the problem Buddhism tries to solve in the opposite direction - the assumption is that everyone becomes equal, and then when you have enough material you lack nothing (since 'to each according to his need') and can't envy anyone (since they have the same stuff as you aka 'as much as they want or need'), presumably so you can focus on things you enjoy as a hobby. The reason it becomes materialistic is because Major Creation isn't actually a thing.

>>54082197
>advocating being a bitch for a month
Just get hard, nigga. It ain't that difficult.

>>54081065
>>>>NO PIZZA HAT

>>54082220
Sorry, but the choice to reduce your emotional level is always the superior choice over stuffing it all in a box or indulging your emotions.

Is Greater Arcane Sightworth it or not?

>>54082177

>but if you're expelled, or fired, or killed, or homeless if you don't that's far worse

I agree with you on killed and mostly on homeless but definitely not fired and expelled. I'm going to assume you aren't in a war-torn area where the threat of death looms around every corner, so there are always other jobs and other schools. Those are garbage reasons to deny your humanity.

>>54082244
Superior in what way? In your opinion? Good for you stop shitting up the thread already.

>>54082155
>It's not that you think other people shouldn't cry because it will make them strong.
I never said you couldn't cry. Cry all you want, just don't cry like a little bitch curled up in fetal position and wallow in it like a depressive fuckball useless to everyone including yourself.

>You just don't want to interact with those emotions because you don't know how to handle those emotions.
>describes how to handle emotions
>"waa, you can't handle emotions waaa!"
Haha, sure, anon, whatever you say. Feel free to call when you decide to not be a faggot. Until then I'll be right over here, trying to make people actually fill their lives with meaning other than sorrow and crying.

>>54082250
Fucking bullshit. You can deal with your stress after you pass the exams. You can deal with your stress after evaluation period is over or during the national holiday in a fortnight.

>>54082253
Superior logically.

>>54082266
Logically in what way? What are your personal values that make it superior? Why are your values universally applicable?

>>54081312
Shuguru is still my favorite memecharacter.

>>54082274
Giving too many fucks about one thing or another is what fucks people up every time. Just give less fucks and you will fuck up less. It's just math, yo.

every time I think /pfg/ can't get worse, it does.

>>54082250
And every time you get into another job, there will be stressful shit going on, there will be rushes, there will be project delays, there will be managers who just have a stick up their arse and act like they're forum mods, and the answer isn't to quit every fucking job, it's to shut the fuck up and understand that the world isn't perfect, won't be perfect, and that there is a time and a place for crying or sitting in a stupor or even just saying "fuck it I'm sleeping the entire day", but it might not be literally right now.

>>54082177

>Completely irreelvant to the fact that if you're fired, you will soon lose things you actually care about

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh no you won't. Unless for some reason you are some weird mutant human that only finds joy in purchasing expensive items then there are plenty of hobbies out there. Fuck you can even do expensive hobbies if you save your money right.

> the entire point of 'work' is that people don't want to be doing it

Nah, humans are active creatures. We like to do stuff.

>everyone wants their own fucking castle

No they don't. I'm going to assume you are not in a place where death looms around every corner. That means you are most likely in a place where there are a lot of advertisements. People want their own castle because they are constantly being shown castles and told DON'T YOU WANT ONE?

>>54082283
Ergo being a nihilist is the best choice possible, as it means you give zero fucks and therefore can never be sad. Congrats you're a Harbringer (Edge Lord).

>>54082125
It's not emotional trauma, though, because they're preoccupied with more important things than to let loss turn into a fucking trauma.

Also, no surprise that you're a cultural marxist racist dictating terms on who's emotions are worthy of your sympathy. Go fuck yourself, crybaby.

>>54082191

Never crying isn't dealing with emotion. It's denying it.

>>54082300
>uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh no you won't. Unless for some reason you are some weird mutant human that only finds joy in purchasing expensive items then there are plenty of hobbies out there. Fuck you can even do expensive hobbies if you save your money right.
Can you feed yourself? What about your internet? How about your kids, are you going to pay their tuition with your toilet paper? What about your old-ass mom, who's paying her med bills? Fucking retard.

>>54082308
Nah, man. You gotta give a few fucks, otherwise you can't get anything fucking done. Not giving any fucks will fuck you up just as bad as giving too many fucks. You gotta find your minimal fuck balance.

>>54082331
Why does it matter if you can't get anything done when you don't care about getting things done?

>>54082192
>eing able to shove emotions aside when you don't have time to be dealt with later when you do is a skill
> when you don't have time to be dealt with later when you do is a skill
>to be dealt with later when you do

Why the fuck are you fucking arguing with me at all you stupid sack of shit? My whole fucking argument is that the idea of "never cry, if you cry you are weak" is a stupid fucking idea. If you are choosing to cry later then you are still fucking crying you dumbass.

>>54082207

Yes they have.

I've seen them hurt people.

Repressing emotions and ignoring them will only lead to greater suffering.

>>54082247
Don't know, too busy wading through shitposts.

>>54082333
Still gotta get paid. Still gotta eat.

>>54082339
I'll cry when I'm dead.

>>54082300
>uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh no you won't
Welfarebabby/living with parents arguing about stress and pressure confirmed holy fuck who is paying your rent?

>humans are active creatures
And work is paid because the 'stuff' you need to do is often stressful, it has a deadline, you don't get to put it aside for three months while you find a new hobby. Work isn't a hobby, it's work. You might not feel like driving a train today but the trains must run on time.

>No they don't. I'm going to assume you are not in a place where death looms around every corner. That means you are most likely in a place where there are a lot of advertisements. People want their own castle because they are constantly being shown castles and told DON'T YOU WANT ONE?
Someone who is about to die wishes to live. Someone who is poor wishes to become less poor. Someone who is less poor wishes to be not poor at all. Someone who is not poor wishes to be wealthy. Someone who is sickly wishes to be healthy; someone who is healthy wishes to never become ill. Someone who is always hungry wishes only to eat; someone who does not go hungry wishes to eat steak and caviar. People always want more shit.

>>54082370
Why does it matter if you don't care about getting paid or eating?

>>54082308
Literally not being a nihilist
I fucking hate whiny teenagers that get their knowledge of shit like this from facebook memes

>>54082258

>Cry all you want, just don't cry like a little bitch curled up in fetal position and wallow in it like a depressive fuckball useless to everyone including yourself.

Then why the fuck are you fucking arguing with me you stupid motherfucker?

Copy paste the point where I said people need to wallow in their emotions forever.

Like, fuck, sure if something horrible happens you need to grieve and there is a spectrum of "this is more important than you grieving" but that's all fucking sematics.

Stop arguing for the sake of arguing you contrarian fuck.

>>54082397
How is that not being a nihilist you dumb fuck I bet you think big man Fred was a nihilist

>>54082396
Starving out in the elements kinda sucks. I don't advocate not giving any fucks about your life, but about strictly budgeting your fucks. Conservative fucks.

>>54082263

If you are someone who is the opposite of emotionally stunted and are trying to overcome your inability to manage stress, then yeah.

However I can also say that there are plenty of non-stressful jobs out there that won't shorten your lifespan.

>>54082417
But if you don't give any fucks about your life then you wouldn't care even if you starved right?

>>54082221
>Communism is like the opposite of materialism
Hahahahaha, oh wow. Being this retarded takes massive skill. Nigger, the foundation of all marxism is materialism. The entire ideology is based on the division of materials and how it affects the world and individuals (and moreso, that it's the ONLY thing that does). Capitalism and Marxism are both fundamentally judaic doctrines that are materialist at their very essence. There's no two ways about it.

>>54082359
Nah. They just tried to use their emotions for something other than what they developed them for. When you get hard, you tailor your emotions for dealing with shitstorms, both short and prolonged. You can't take yourself out of the shitstorm environment, you've adapted yourself to it. Unlike normal people who will die when overexposed, you will thrive in the shit. You have risen above it.

>>54082285
The last few weeks have been particularly bad. I thought we hit the bottom with the attack last night but boy was I naive.

>>54082293

What the fuck kind of fucking strawman ass fucking argument are you making?

Yeah there is going to be problems everywhere, so go and find a place where the problems aren't all that bad. Don't "get hard" find a place that doesn't want to make you tear your hair out. If you can't find it, then make it yourself.

>>54082420
Those jobs are usually those you spend stress on beforehand. A dentist or a physician's job is more or less trivial with hilariously low hours, but they swallowed their stress and toughed it through Harvard or Cambridge Med sleeping four hours a day and getting their license. That's like the opposite of what you're saying, they repressed their shit for years while they looked forward to the time when they'd never have to worry about this sort of shit again.

>>54082421
Well, that's just suicidal. That's not conservative fuck budgeting. Conservative fuck budgeting would be like "I haven't gotten laid in 10 years...oh well, work tomorrow."

>>54082311

>more important things

Unless those things are "I am going to die" or "they are going to die" then they aren't more important than something you would register as "potential trauma."

>>54082427
>everything to do with material - ergo, food, shelter, clothing, etc. - is from da joos
Last (you).

>>54082442
No. Get hard.

>>54082452
But you don't care about your life so why does it matter? See how stupid this logic is?

>>54082325

What?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

We are talking about fucking Wall Street you stupid motherfucker. You can get all of those fucking things without being a goddamn Wall Street motherfucker. What the fuck are you even on about?

>>54082469
Not at all. All I see is someone conflating giving less fucks with suicide. You can live perfectly happy while caring a lot less about everything.

>>54082471
ALL jobs have times when you need to fuck off and deal with it. High paying jobs often require just that, so you can give your kids and family a better environment. Want a pool in your house? What about a trampoline or a kayak? Want to go to Italy and Britain this summer? Get a good job.

>>54082486
But if you give no fucks about your life why does it matter if you die? You can't be happy if you give no fucks, you can be neutral because you don't care one way or another.

>>54082387

I'm paying my rent, who else would?

>
And work is paid because the 'stuff' you need to do is often stressful, it has a deadline, you don't get to put it aside for three months while you find a new hobby. Work isn't a hobby, it's work. You might not feel like driving a train today but the trains must run on time.

What the fuck are you even on about? We are talking about emotional fucking trauma and wanting to cry and you are talking about "ugh, I don't wanna work today." What kind of rich-ass family are you from?

>People always want more shit.

No they fucking don't you stupid motherfucker. People want to be filled. They want to be complete. You live in a society where there are constant advertisements about how X product will help you be complete. So yeah, people in that culture are going to want more fucking stuff. Jesus fuck go outside.

>>54082494
Wasting away ain't the point nigga.

>>54082197
>you are just looking for excuses to maintain your crippled emotions instead of trying to fix them.
Except I have no issues with my emotions. You do. You're the one that can't deal with them. I deal with them and move on as a part of my daily life, as people have always done, without getting stuck in bullshit wallowing and feeling sorry for myself. Suck it up and work past it, stop bitching about it. It's not that hard, really, and after a while, you'll find yourself wondering what the big deal even was.it's part of growing up, just as you no longer throw a tantrum when you drop an ice-cream, or cry profusely and scream when you hit your finger with a hammer or stub your toe. When you were a child, that was somehow massive, but now you can't understand why you were such a little bitch about it.

Some people, like you, just refuse to grow up, and expect others to care forever for your stubbed fucking toes, or your inability to deal with your own emotions.

>>54082432

You don't thrive in that shit, you've adapted to it.

You haven't risen above it, you literally described someone who is sustained by it.

They will try to recreate it wherever they go and perpetuate it unless they realize how fucked it all is and actually work to be a better person.

CAN YOU STOP TAKING THE FUCKING BAIT

>>54082471
The fact that if you lose your job, you lose all that shit. The running costs for the upper class are huge.

>>54082496
>No they fucking don't you stupid motherfucker. People want to be filled. They want to be complete. You live in a society where there are constant advertisements about how X product will help you be complete. So yeah, people in that culture are going to want more fucking stuff. Jesus fuck go outside.
And once they're 'filled' and 'complete' they want more shit because now they're hollow again. Spiritual fulfillment is something seperate entirely, and something most people don't have a snowball's chance in hell of achieving. Even people spiritually fulfilled want more shit, because fuck's sake why WOULDN'T you want to eat things you like, even if they're expensive, why WOULDN'T you want to give your kids a nice place to swim in, why WOULDN'T you want a nice house instead of a shack?

>>54082520
Some people need to be adapted to the shitsorm environment. Normal people can't take it for long, it causes stress breakdowns. The problem is removing yourself from the shitstorm, just like when you remove any creature from its native environment. It either becomes an invasive species or it dies.

>>54082494
You can't see the difference between caring less and not getting hung up on pointless shit, and not caring about anything at all whatsoever and just wasting away because you do not care about food, water, or exposure?

Literally. Autism.

>>54082471
'Sup m8
I grew up with a dad who was a manager in the finance sector. We blew probably 180k USD yearly just on normal costs like taxes and insurance, not even including travel or house fixes or shit, and probably could've spent more if we wanted to. Basically, if you're fired from a WS job, you need to downgrade literally everything. And tell the kids you're not going to Stonehenge this year.

>>54082447

> they swallowed their stress and toughed it through Harvard or Cambridge Med sleeping four hours a day and getting their license

Or they fucking loved the time they spent there and had a blast.

Or they clearly valued the result over the stress.

Fuck, they could have cried during it all. This fucking proves nothing. They could have cried the whole time while they studied, while they did their exam, and still would have gotten the degree and the job they fucking wanted.

>>54082554
There isn't a difference because what is and is not pointless is a matter of opinion. To the depressed, life is probably pointless.

>>54082562
>Or they clearly valued the result over the stress.
THAT'S WHY THEY SWALLOWED IT YOU IDIOT BECAUSE IT LITERALLY DIDN'T MATTER

>>54082487

Homie the only thing you fucking listed that is remotely "worth" stunting your emotions is "give family a better environment" and you actually don't need to stunt your emotions to do that. The rest of those things are just bullcrap you would buy yourself to try and convince yourself that you aren't an emotionally damaged person who will hurt your family with how emotionally damaged you are.

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>>54082592
>let me tell you how to live your life
>it doesn't matter if I'm a jobless hobo who relies on welfare state (that doesn't always exist everywhere in the world mind), I know what I'm doing
>just let it all out mate
>don't control your emotions, you'll end up like me, look how happy I am

>paizo general
>bunch of fags arguing over whether it's okay to cry or not
Just a regular day in /pgg/.

>>54082508

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Crying for 10 fucking seconds is "can't deal with emotions"?

You have got to get over your bullshit dude. It's okay to cry. It's okay to feel sad. Humans are expressive creatures. If you don't express your sadness then you will only hurt everyone around you.

>>54082610
Can we go back to wanking over apps.

>>54082620
The new meta is whether an app is Hard or Soft

>>54082099
>non-sense short-term solution of "Get Hard."
Except it's worked for about 20000 years just fine, so I dunno, maybe your solution of "I crai evrytiem" that's existed for about the same time period as the decline of all of western civilization into a self-obsessed hellhole where depression is endemic is retarded, but whatever.

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>39 IPs
>most of it is probably like 5 people wanking over their personal beliefs, which probably works fine for them but not necessarily for everyone else
>but they're autists who don't understand people aren't created via the Simulacrum spell
Ah yes.

>>54082530

No you don't.

There are cheaper houses, cheaper food, other ways to save for tuition. Why the fuck would you want to be "upper class" if it means you poison yourself?

>>54082630
My app is /y/

>>54082641
>everyone should be lower class like me because I can't fathom that some people care about different fucking things

Can both you fucking retards shut up

>>54082619
>crying for 10 fucking seconds
If that's all you want to do, then sure, I doubt anyone ever said that you couldn't, but we know that's not what it's about. You whiny little fuckbag.

>>54080824
Giving her a clean death is not the answer. She should suffer in mind and body for years until she is reduced to nothing, everything that made her unmade by pains and violence. I would paralyze her, force-feed her, and rape her body while killing everyone she has ever loved. The shell of her body a prison for her mind, forever forbidden to die, forever suffering. I would play game where I would promise her death, and then retract myself and kill her children instead. Can paralyzed people even cry? There is no god. There is no hope. Only me, forever.

>>54082620
>>54082630
I'm totally ready to divide Ensoulments into Hard or Soft. That's a legit philosophical divide.

>>54082536

>they want more shit because now they're hollow again

YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER

YOU THINK THAT WAY BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN A CULTURE THAT TELLS YOU TO THINK THAT WAY

>you want to give your kids a nice place to swim in

Because they would rather have a parent who hugs them, talks to them, and bonds with them than a pool in the backyard.

Because the kids are human, just like the parent who is denying their humanity.

>>54082668
Real men Get Hard

>>54082675
real men can't get hard because they have their dick in a chastity cage.

>>54082247
>>54082247
>>54082247
I just hit level 7 spells. Greater Teleport is banned. I'm probably taking Limited Wish but is Greater Arcane Sight a good pick for the second free spell? We don't really magic mart for spells, specifically, so any spells are going to be off enemy casters.

>>54082688
i mean not really, there's way better level 7 spells

>>54082545

Homie, anyone can adapt to a shitstorm environment. It causes severe damage to the human but anyone can do it.

You take them away from it, they are still human, just severely damaged. They can be fixed if they want to.

>>54082668
Let's do the current running /pfg/ games. Which apps are hard or soft?

>>54082674
>Because they would rather have a parent who hugs them, talks to them, and bonds with them than a pool in the backyard.
But why not both? Why not a parent who talks to them, and can provide good food and a place to play in that isn't the local garbage heap?

>a culture that
>everyone is American or Western Euro
Kill yourself.

>>54082557

If you were able to emotionally bond with your dad then awesome

That being said, if not going to Stonehenge was something that would destroy your family then you had better have some deep Celtic roots. Otherwise you have a garbage, disfunctional family.

>>54082700
You call it damage, I call it specialization.

>>54082709
fuck off Kawase

>>54082698
I'm thinking mainly because the casters we face are mainly blasters and debuffers so GAS is going to be rare to find in their books. Like, how big a deal is it over Arcane Sight (I have it Permanent on me)?

>>54081826
I'd like to think so, yes.

>>54082641
Except those are not the standards you live with if you are on that level. Changing social class can be every bit as traumatic as being a refugee - objectively - and that's before we discuss the massive fucking debt you're going to be in, as well as losing everything for everyone that may be involved, like your mother's retirement home, your wife's stay-at-home job taking care of the children, and the good school your kids were in.

You speak a lot about emotions, but you seem to have zero understanding or empathy for people that aren't you, and you're just wanting people to validate you being a self-centered whiny little bitch.

>>54082719
>there are no Russians in the world
>or Balkaniggers
>or Serbs
Bitch fuck off with your e-celeb bullshit

>>54082722
Like not really at all

>>54082573

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CRYING

READ THE WHOLE POST YOU EMOTIONALLY STUNTED MOTHERFUCKER

>>54082731
Slavs aren't people anon

>>54082733
Oh okay
How about Grasping Hand then?

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>>54082608

>there are only two states of income:
>Wall Street
>jobless hobo

Nice strawman

>>54082741
>slavs aren't people
>but chinks are
ah yes, fucking love how an American is telling me about how they have it SOOOO hard

>>54082631

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

If you think that the world is totally awesome then I have some bad news for you...

>>54082756
>there is only one state of income acceptable
>the one where you're a poor bitch and want to drag people in the middle, upper middle, and upper classes down to your level with retarded (and incorrect) pseudoscientific moralizing bullshit
ok

>>54082743
yeah grasping hand or waves of exhaustion, reverse gravity greater polymorph, greater shadow conjuration

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>>54082765
>Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
>...
Summer everyone

>>54082649

>having a pool is totally worth stunting your ability to express your emotions!

>>54082757
I don't make the rules anon, the romans did

Slavs aren't people

>>54082674
>YOU LIVE IN A CULTURE TELLING YOU TO THINK THAT WAY BUT I DON'T LIVE IN A CULTURE TELLING ME TO THINK THIS WAY THEREFORE I AM RIGHT
Into the trash you go.

>>54082659

That has been my argument this whole fucking time you contrarian cock.

>>54082777
Honestly yeah.

What the fuck is even going on in that OP image?

>>54082777
>repressing your emotions at the workplace and during crunch week on the big presentation so you can get that fat 400k paycheck, but being warm to your kids and talking about your problems to your wife while taking her out to a michelin for your anni is somehow worse than being a poorfag who does the same except to burger king

>>54082709

If a parent can bond with their child then they aren't emotionally stunted. Then they are able to cry. Then they aren't the thing that I have been arguing against.

>>54082804
I can only guess she either
A. Lost a battle and is being killed by the enemy
B. Lost an important battle delegated to her command and is being executed as the person responsible
C. Got betrayed

>>54082717

You can still have that "specialization" and cry.

>>54082808
Someone able to cry and someone who refuses to do so are not mutually exclusive.

>>54082674
Believe it or not, I have no problem both hugging my kids and dealing with my emotions and working through loss without bitching. It's amazing, I know, I know.

Some of the hardest motherfuckers I've ever known, both on streets and in courtrooms, are the softest, most caring bastards with their kids. Fuck you and whatever dysfunctional shithole you grew up in that makes you project your communism this hard.

>>54082777
If I were a little autistic but could make seven digits a year I'd take that trade in a heartbeat.

>>54082730

> Changing social class can be every bit as traumatic as being a refugee
>Moving to a smaller house is just as bad as running from death squads!

The death squad people managed so I'm certain the other family will be fine. Humans are extremely durable creatures. I have no pity for people who live a life of luxury and whine about how hard it is to maintain that life of luxury. No one is forcing them to make those sacrifices. And if the people in their life are only there because of that luxury then they need to remove those people from their life. It sucks when you have toxic people in your family but you are better for removing them.

>>54082825
>dysfunctional shithole
He's a westerner, which means he has no concept of the seperation of the public and private spheres. Someone can be a hard motherfucker when he's on the clock and immediately become soft when he's off.

>>54080770
>idea for non-combat umd/disable/sneakthief specialist

A half-elf girl who was found with her face bashed in and left to die, taken in by a circle of mages who used their healing magic to save her life and raise her as their own. While petty, the mages couldn't just let someone die like that. Magic splints and such aided the healing process, but she ended up with a metal face and sees the world through vision enchantments instead of eyes. Combined with her scars, deformities, half-elven heritage, and social ineptitude due to brain damage and unconventional upbringing, her very low charisma score is explained.

As she was unable to use magic, they sought to teach her to spy and to steal, mostly from rival mage circles. She became pretty good at the latter, but stuck out in a crowd too much to be any good at the former. She doesn't like hurting people, and has not been trained in much combat aside from basic forms of hand-to-hand self defense.

Remembers only bits and pieces of her past before she was attacked. She can't remember who her parents are, but it is pretty sure they didn't do it. Intentionally left blank so the GM can use/abuse it.

Then half of the mage circle got arrested for tax fraud and she found herself unemployed and alone. She encounters a group of poorly dressed misfits at Plothook Tavern talking about adventures.

>>54082818
No man, we're talking real shitstorms here.

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>>54082769

Way no not give up on the strawman.

>>54082853
>a circle of mages who used their healing magic to save her life and raise her as their own
>Wizards with a sense of right and wrong
????????? -
>arrested for tax fraud
Wizards vs. Jews when?

>>54082487
in my experience it is usually the opposite. High paying jobs you can get away with whatever, but if you make minimum wage you need to be perfect and toe the company line all the time.

>>54082808
Nobody is the thing you've been arguing against, because you've been arguing against your own strawman. The only one here that's emotionally stunted is you. Nobody else that's here appears to have issues with their emotions.

>>54082781

wut

>>54082777
>having a pool requires you to stunt your emotions

Show us again where daddy touched you.

>>54082805

> talking about your problems to your wife

Ah, so you are talking about someone who isn't emotionally stunted and therefore is completely irrelevant to what I am talking about.

>>54082820

Sure?

>>54082865
Different things here.
Minimum wage is replaceable - that's why you need to try and make yourself useful. At the same time your job really isn't that important, so as long as you do what you need to do, you're golden. But high paying jobs can land you in serious hot water if you fuck up even once, more than just getting fired - and getting fired from a management position is a killer, it's why they usually "advise you to step down" because if you get fired from a management position your next job is flipping burgers, nobody is going to hire someone who lost a company 850 million in a botched deal or who didn't get a negotiation right and landed a multinational in legal trouble. On top of that, you're also fucked because you can easily be in six or seven figures of debt (or will be, come next tax season), and the actual management responsibility is huge - when someone below you fucks up hard, you often take the fall with them because they're your responsibility.

>>54082831

I'm not talking about people with literal mental conditions <.<

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>>54082905
><.<
Again lads: Welcome to Summer.

So, how long before the Discord room cleans its Ban list, since there was collateral damage from the pruning? There's no way to poke anyone in the channel now, after all, without having talked to them beforehand.

>>54082825

Then you aren't what I'm talking about.

I imagine you are fully capable and willing to cry when tragedy befalls you.

>>54082917
See >>54082867

>>54082855

History has proven humans to have incredible adaptability. I'm certain you can find that balance.

>>54082916
Friend them over Discord, esp. if they're a DM or fellow applicant you want to ask about.

>>54082867

>your own strawman

You honestly don't believe that in this world that there are people who refuse to believe that crying is an okay thing to do no matter the situation?

>>54082927
No, once you're in, you're all in.

>>54082944

History has proven you wrong. Go study it.

>>54082954
Please direct me to the History of Getting Hard

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>>54082967

>>54082916
What's this about bans and pruning in Discord?

>>54082971
This honestly needs to be some sort of Fiend or Qlippoth

>>54082943
Crying is not an OK thing to do no matter the situation, though. That's just how it is, have always been, and will always be.

>>54082930
Except that, without knowing their proper ID instead of a channel name, or being in the same channel as them, you can't.

>>54082708
>>54082630
what does this mean? Sorry for my ignorance.

>>54082894
I've seen execs tank several hundred million dollar companies and be given 5 million dollars to step down.

I've seen directions do fuck-all, watch porn at work, etc and the worst they get is shuffled around in responsibilities in an ineffective attempt to convince them to leave

I've also seen people work their asses off and then nearly get fired because they yawned while working after the 4th night in a row of 12 hour work days (salaried with no overtime). Sometimes they were fired, and then management bitches that they can't find a suitable replacement for the same pay, and that maybe that person wasn't as replaceable as they thought.

I'm not really disagreeing or anything. Corporate culture is shit. People in sales are usually the worst about it, in my experience, and love to manufacture shit just to pad their egos and look better than others.

>>54082992
who are you looking for

>>54082971
I've read articles proposing that some of these distorted figures were likely self portraits since they look a lot less distorted when viewed from above. It would also explain why they never have faces, since without mirrors a woman wouldn't be able to see her own face.

>>54083005
Maybe it's just different in different workplaces. This was Chase from like, '94 to '07 (bailed literally right before the crash, pure coincidence).

>>54083015
I mean I still think most of them are just fertility figurines. You'll notice they basically don't have arms and their legs are almost all thigh and the stomach is like obese but also severely pregnant.

>>54082989

It is, homie. You need to allow yourself to express yourself. It's okay to cry, and denying it makes you weaker.

>>54082894

Those people who were in a high-paying job and got fired for fucking up just didn't have any friends or got unlucky.

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So, just to be clear, this is the result of a dumbass making a /pgg/ thread early instead of waiting for /pfg/ at page eight, right?

>>54083006
No need for spoilers; I'm just trying to get back into the channel after, apparently, being outright banned for idling of all things. Part of it is the incredulity of the 'offence', especially given it happened during crunch time. Because, despite the occasional post of them here, the Discord just sees more game ads and keeps a better list.

>>54083042
Wait, shit, it puts a ban and not just a kick? That's not supposed to happen; I'll talk with the Admin to let you back in, what's your account?

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>>54083040
Yes. Long Live Anime.

>>54083042
Sasuga Inspector

>>54082916
Weird, the ban list for the server is blank.

>>54083059
Toss me another link, then? An earlier attempt just hit me with 'Invalid' despite it being, apparently, a working link.

>>54083018
My experience is with mid-sized software companies in more recent years. Currently working for a start up where the head of sales is doing a lot of weird passive-aggressive stuff to others. I think he feels insecure about something but I wish he would deal with it in more productive ways.

>>54083042
My ban list is blank, anon.

Does our invite not work for you?

https://discord.gg/KPKWdyr

If not, post your name and number and I'll message you and see if I can fix it.

>>54083070
The discord short links expire from time to time, so it might have been that

>>54082861
why is unusual to think that wizards might be as likely to commit tax fraud as anyone else?

>>54083057
Gee i wonder why the discord split up and is turning into solid shit, could it be beacause it's run by a literal jew?

>>54083101
>why is unusual to think that wizards might be as likely to commit tax fraud as anyone else?
How do you even tax a Wizard? How do you track their income, considering Shrink Item into Extradimensional Chest exists?

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>>54083108

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>>54083108
Broodie should make his discord public.

>>54083057
The issue came from people having the old links and not the permanent link.

The issue is fixed now. Pruning inactive people doesn't ban.

>>54081488
Except you add compassion.

The suffering of others is not to be tolerated. No one asked to be born into suffering.

>>54083114
couldn't an ordinary person hide their wealth in a bag of holding?

Clearly the state has Tax Wizards who can magically detect gold and valuables

>>54083144
This functionally means you try to make others nihilist.

>>54083121
Why?

>>54083145
BoHs register on Detect Magic though, and then it's just taking out the stuff from inside.

>>54083159
So we can escape into it and thereby merge the discords again.