JumpChain CYOA Thread #1584: It's Actually Masturbation

You forgot the arrows.

>>54043591

>>54053735
Perhaps an infusions option that makes infusions appear for you to find either on or just off the path of your adventurers like the twins left for Booker?

It would provide a source of infusions for jumpers (and anyone who jumpers give their custom designed vigors to) without making them too cheap/easy or expensive/unreasonable to get.

>>54053603
I mean, there's also the jump for the Heroes, and I think Digger wanted to make more of them (I think I heard something about the toons at least)?

>>54053968
Are instrument girls the next hot thing?

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Here's Infinite reupdated, mostly altered the item page.

Changelog:

Veni Vidi Vigor now guarantees no mishaps from handling ADAM or using ADAM based products.

Minibar now updates when brought to new locations.

Infusion is now 50 CP from 100.

Presidential Airship and Fireworks items were both added.

Motorized Patriot now has a robot import option letting you turn your dusty old robot into a more presidential robot with a gatling gun.

>>54053878
>>54054002
It's something that permanently boosts a stat, an infinite supply is probably not a great idea in terms of balance. It's not all that different from the Attribute thing in Skyrim although in this instance you can't actually upgrade the stat by training and with this one you've got to down a drink.

>>54054106
Isn't some kind of infinite supply necessary in this case? There is a cap to how much it can improve an attribute anyway and you NEED a way to boost people's Salts if you want to be making and distributing Vigors.

>>54054106
The First Lady had to turrets, one facing up and one facing down.

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What's the worst falling out you ever had with a Companion?

>>54054214
>to
two

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>>54053968
...Really?

>>54054231
And where they in the wrong?

So if a person were to get Natural Body and Natural Born Genius would that be enough to be counted as a Golden Child by the standards of a Type Moon human. I wish to innately know how to 'Breath and Walk'.

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>>54054231
Katrina Wellengood, my assistant from Phoenix Wright. She was my first companion and was originally a perfect foil to me - energetic, spunky, determined, hot-headed, you name it. We became fast friends after I managed to acquit her father from a murder case, and she was behind me for years every step of the way. I probably would have been attracted to her if not for the awkward age difference.

Then she found out about the rest of the chain. The idea of power and adventure intrigued her and our first jump together was in Batman. However, my refusal to kill all the psychopaths we encountered, including pre-Hyde Smile, wore thin on her patience and I soon witnessed her die in front of me. She came back the next day, but I was terrified of her or others getting hurt on my behalf again, and began to avoid adventure and danger like the plague, much to her frustration.

Then Smile returned unexpectedly in Rurouni Kenshin, with me completely blindsided due to the above. Millions died and Smile was only defeated when the damage was done. Kat blamed me. Blamed Yuki. Said it was all my fault for letting it get that bad in the first place. She became angry and bitter, and the next time we spoke we nearly punched each other to death.

Then, she was gone. Back home, that is.

...

I guess it's up to you about who was right and who was wrong.

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>>54054180
>you NEED a way to boost people's Salts if you want to be making and distributing Vigors

Not really, just sell a lot of coffee and cigarettes. Might not be able to use them all the time but there are already upgrades to the Vigors themselves that make them a shitload more efficient.

The only way of balancing it and giving an infinite supply of Infusions is to hardcap the maximum health, salts and shield people can get as a broad ruling. Anything else risks giving people an endless amount of health and a shield that can't be broken for 50 CP. The whole hardcap thing is more unpleasant than just leaving it as an item for people who have 50 CP left and leave it to people who want to figure out how to make infusions themselves. The Luteces managed it and there was similar upgrades in Rapture.

So no it's still not getting changed at this point.

>>54054214
Oh yeah, fixed.

>>54054231
And this reminds me of a good cover of that song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRLsZldkkMo

>>54054106
>It's something that permanently boosts a stat, an infinite supply is probably not a great idea in terms of balance
Think of it like Super serum. It gives a permanent benefit, but that benefit is not uncapped, instead having an upper limit.
Bamebalance wise, we already have stuff like that (things that can give permanent boosts to people) Heart shaped herbs, several super serums, those cauldron vials, various blessings you can bestow on others.

A drink that gives a small buff to some attribute, usable by only one person, and then vanishes forever is a unfun option.

Also, what are the Shields? are they a special kind of Vigor?

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>>54054349
>blamed Decade
But it was the Archfiend Moon Layer HEAVENS! The true mastermind!

>>54054349
You were wrong, Heavens. Bhaal, Lord of Murder, heartily disapproves of you not killing Smile. On the other hand, he's smiles on said figure for killing millions.

>>54054369
>The only way of balancing it and giving an infinite supply of Infusions is to hardcap the maximum health, salts and shield people can get as a broad ruling.
You already do that! in the Notes it says that you can only benefit from 10 infusions of a certain type just like it is in the game.

So did the Maoyuu jump ever have notes? Because it sounds like it's supposed to.

>>54053968
I like shoving my viola up past my vulva.

>>54054369
>is to hardcap the maximum health, salts and shield
But that is exactly how infusions work? You can only get 10 of them in an attribute.

>>54054437
I mean I definitely killed him at the end of Rurouni Kenshin, but the fucker just won't STAY dead.
>>54054434
Actually, I wasn't even Decade at that point. Just 'anon'. I didn't formally adopt the title of Destroyer of Worlds until many jumps later.

>>54054429
>Also, what are the Shields? are they a special kind of Vigor?
The Shield is something the twins gave Booker to help him fight, it usually kills whoever drinks the shield formula though so they went through a lot of Bookers until one of them survived.

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>>54054429
>>54054444
>>54054464
Kek.

Oh yeah. It really was a long time ago that the jump got made and my memory isn't the best.

Sorry folks.

Now it replenishes weekly.

>>54054499
So you keep killing him... preferably in a ritualised manner. That'll please my husband - the aforementioned Bhaal.

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>>54054434
>blamed HEAVENS
>Implying it isn't all the fault of The Masked Pain

>>54054514
Can we pull a twins and feed people Shield infusions, rezz them, wipe the event from their minds, and then repeat until they survive/get a shield?

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So are we going to get a Nocturnal Exalted Jump?

>>54054611
If you make it.

>>54054565
No. I've now reread the notes and decided that you can't some time ago.

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>>54054543
>I AM FIRE. THE BEES TRANSFORMED.
>mfw

As a fantasy magic focused jumper, in which space sci-fi settings would I cause the most chaos and confusion?

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>>54054543
>>54054695
I still have no idea why the fuck he's so persistent or how he's still following me at this point. He's a Scooby-Doo villain with bees challenging a universal Cat Wizard. AND SOMEHOW KEEPS PUTTING UP A GOOD FIGHT.

I don't know whether to be impressed or terrified of him.

>>54054514
Question, the jump starts in 1912 just before Columbia and it's inhabitants are wiped from existence. Isn't that going to be a problem for us as inhabitants of Columbia?

>>54054611
When they publish the Getimian book for 3E and someone makes a jump of it.

>>54054514
The companions page has the drawbacks instruction in the upper right corner.

Ok so I have a lot of enchanting perks and magic but just so I dont leave anything out Im gonna ask.

How would you go about creating a book that eats other books then passes the accumulated knowledge into the owners mind? That way over time it just becomes one book that doesnt grow bigger but contains info from millions of books but can be searched and download the data if you need to.

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What are some jumps that encourage or focus on just spend your time finding derelict machines and ships?

>>54054814
Sunless sea

>>54054729
How do you feel now that Michael Bay has destroyed the Moon again.

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>>54054729
You don't understand
HE IS FIRE
THE BEES TRANSFORMED

>>54054814
Star Trek? Space Hulk (eventually)? Metroid, for sure.

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So what jumps have top tier waifus, and who are they?

>>54054864
Wait for WoW. Waifus everywhere, anon. Waifus everywhere. Literally every races' females are waifus.

>>54054864
Custom NPC's from OVerlord are a build your own waifu based off the canon examples.

>>54054784
Have you considered eating the books to gain their power?

>>54054911
>Jumpers, waifuing the entire female population of fantasy races since always.

>>54054940
You aren't a true jumper if you don't waifu everything that passes the Harkness Test.

>>54054911
Don't you think it's a little strange that monkeys, blue goat aliens, ripped green aliens, pandas, cows, giant robot vikings, regular people descended from giant robot vikings, elves, ugly elves with giant teeth, fish, dragons, deer people, centaurs, tiny used-to-be-robot people, slightly larger used-to-be-golem people, and demons can all have kids with each other with no complications?

>>54054964
No
Different laws of reality, innit?

>>54054514
>Shield grants the user a shield powerful as if already boosted by several infusions in game terms.
How many exactly? It caps at 10 and our shields start out at what 3? 5? Don't want to be wasting any that could be used to boost a companion's Salts.

>>54054964
Do you ever see any hybrids that aren't half-human? It's human that's the magic ingredient that binds it all together.

>>54054911
Not Furbolgs.

>>54054964
Humans and dragons are both known to be able to breed with literally anything, everyone of every race has by this point at least a trace of human or dragon blood that allows them to do the same.

>>54055033
Why would humans have sex with orcs?

>>54055008
Orc/Draenei.

Considering most Draenei are over 25,000 years old and it's confirmed they very rarely have children, that's pretty disturbing.

>>54055025
There's people who would waifu a furbolg. Tell me I'm wrong.

>>54054369
>Particle Physics
>You are an extremely well-educated physicist and have a fine working knowledge of Lutece particles. Use of such particles allows you to cause massive objects to float or hover, even whole buildings and cities.
So, a cursory google search of 'Lutece' makes me think this is a made up particle. Which can make use of this actually using perk problematic in later jumps (you know how you make stuff float with a suitable supply of unobtanium. Unobtanium not included). Maybe make this perk 100 CP and add a supply for 200 CP? Or specify it included knowledge to easily make them, but a look at the wiki makes it seem like tear technology may have been involved in obtaining them, and you have that stuff locked down in the jump.

>>54054911
>Wait for WoW. Waifus everywhere, anon. Waifus everywhere. Literally every races' females are waifus.
Can't wait for my futa space goats.

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>>54055123

>>54055123
GODDAMMIT THEY'RE NOT HORSE-COCKED FUTAS!
I just want to fucking throttle the asshole who did that shit. He's either the most retarded person or the biggest troll ever.

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>>54054911
Speaking of Warcraft. Would taking the Helm of Domination before Arthas, be consider Chain-over?

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>>54055123

>>54055102
If I remember right her background makes it sound like it was probably a rape too.

>>54055103
It's hard to waifu them when we don't know what the girls look like.

>>54055158
>GODDAMMIT THEY'RE NOT HORSE-COCKED FUTAS!
They will be by the time I finish jumping WoW.

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>>54055229
DO NOT

>>54055161
I'd guess that depends on whether you eat Kil'jaeden's spirit like Arthas or if he eats you.

Just finished season 4 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Now the only question is how many yandere robot waifus should I build?

>>54055161
Depends on if the Helm/Ner'Zhul dominates you or you dominate the Helm. Come out on top and it's just a powerful, flashy helmet with glowy eyes and a cool voice effect.

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>>54055229

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>>54055255
This can only possibly end badly.

>>54055105
For fucks sake anon for all we know there are millions of types of particles we haven't discovered or observed yet. Not everything has to have some magical fiat backing spelled out because some anons are too freaking autistic to just go with it.

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>>54055099

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>>54055289

>>54055255
As many as you want.

>>54055229
...I can just imagine how awkward that would be for all the Draenei. It actually seems pretty funny. Now I must do so too.

>>54055245
>>54055265
Well, there's the Castlevania jump with Power Dominance, which gives you absolute control over your soul.

>>54055255
That can only be answered with another question.

How much material to build them can you get?

>>54054864
Tenchi Muyo- It's a drawback, but your fiancée/fiancé is said to be a very good partner, you just need to avoid going through with the wedding before the jump ends. And if you combine it with another drawback, you can get multiple waifus.

>>54054911
The Draenei are for waifuing and breeding. They're a good starter race for something more interesting and more powerful.

>>54055368
You need to re-read that jump, because half of the perks give you waifus too, as do all of the drawbacks.

You could easily walk out of that with a huge harem just from that jump alone, without even purchasing companions.

>>54055368
You can also waifu Tokimi that way if you think you can handle it

>>54055385
Yup, Muyo really did that jump justice. It's easily one of my favorite.

>>54055327
Well, there you go then. You should be fine collecting your shiny undead-controlling helm and fancy armor.

>>54055413
A shame how he screwed up Asura's Wrath.

>>54055416
>The Lich King unleashed onto the chain
I don't know if that's a good idea or a better idea.

>>54054729
Does Unconquered allow you to produce Essence, or does it just speed up how quickly you respire it?

>>54055327
Actually, would the Deathknight capstone from the new WoW jump work for this?

>>54055521
I mean the Demon Hunter one.

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>>54055491
>Jumpich King
>Go to Overlord
>Battle Ainz for best Necromancer

>>54055158
...Please tell me we are not talking canon here or something.

>>54055616
Nah, just some guy with a lot of money commissioned a ton of draenei futa art and a shitposter here keeps trying to push it as canon.

>>54055508
It speeds up how quickly your Permanent Essence grows, as well as steadily regenerating your pool at a quickened rate. You'd recover motes as though you were at full rest when under stress, and it goes up from there.

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>>54055521
>>54055547
Probably. However we would have to wait until late July. With all the stuff OAA/WoWAnon is adding in, its gonna take awhile but will be worth the wait.

>>54055616
One dude with loads of money commissioned shit load of horse dick futa porn. Its now a meme.

>>54055385
I knew that, and I like them too, but I was just focusing on the specific waifus you could find, not the tools you can use to get more.

>>54055413
Same here.

>>54054814
Generic Post Apoc
CATastrophe

>>54055651
>a shitposter
Fucking really? Are you people that pathetic that someone can't even mention something that offends your delicate sensibilities without you labeling them as "the shitposter"? God, this community sometimes...

>>54055651
Considering how easily he accepts that it's not canon and he'll have to give 'em the D himself every time it comes up, I'm pretty sure he's just having a giggle.

>>54055664
Yeah, but where does that Essence come from? From you, or from the environment?

>>54055722
From you? The capstone boost is basically a boost to your Exaltation itself.

>>54055413
Yeah, it fits the setting extremely well.

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>>54054760
Your particular timeline will carry on as normal due to possible benefactor shenanigans.

Or perhaps you could pop up in some other Rapture-like place in another dimension.

>>54055001
5

>>54055105
If you get the perk you'll definitely be able to find them in other settings. If not that really depends on how you think science stuff works in your chain from jump to jump.

>>54054781
Shiiiiiiiiiiit.

Thanks for pointing it out

>>54055664
So, uh, Heavens... is it just me, or is the non-boosted effect of Mind of the Sun really minor, especially compared to the other capstones?

It starts you off with Old Realm and basic knowledge to tinker... Which really seems more like a 200 or even 100cp thing.

I mean, sure, it says you can practise to git gud and craft First Age stuff... but that's more what Solars do anyway?

>>54055616
As others have said someone once commissioned a lot of very specific Draenei porn. This had an effect of drawing people that were interested in huge horse cocks to Draenei, further proliferating the porn. At this point something over 2 out of 3 porn pics of Draenei are horse cock futa. Due to the popularity of this porn it has managed to reach out into way to many discussions about Draenei that don't have anything to do with porn.

>>54055734
Alright, cool. Thanks.

>>54055385
But what if I don't want any?

>>54055734
Normally essence is respired from the enviroment. Which is basically shown only by living beings not respiring essence in the Underworld, and other such living/necrotic differences.

Of course, you can still get motes from stunts in the Underworld, and 3e doesn't have that limitation at all anyway.

>>54055858
>Jumping a harem series and not wanting a harem
Anyway, just break their hearts and tell them you not only don't love them, but don't like them at all and aren't going to allow them to come with you on multiversal adventures. That would work.

>>54055560
Isn't Ainz basically beyond anything in WoW short of the Titans and Old Gods/Void Lords?

>>54055901
Pff, no.

>>54055912
Okay, outside of full powered Aspects, what can stand up to a level 100 player that isn't some cosmic god?

>>54055901
Has he ever accidentally blown up a planet?

>>54055938
....Isn't Sargeras a corrupted Titan, anon?

>>54055934
Recognize that Ainz is an epic-level DnD spellcaster. Recognize that the strongest mages/druids/warlocks etc in WoW are also equivalent to epic-level DnD Spellcasters. Ainz is a big fucking deal and he might approach the Lich king, but he's not unstoppable.

>>54055968
Mages in WoW never directly do anything that impressive without stealing power from dead gods or something.

>>54055934
Considering we are 4/5 Aspects murdered (though one is a future version and another had been replaced afterwards), Aspects aren't all that anymore.

>>54055968
And this is pretty accurate, specially since WoW rips a lot straight out of DnD.

>>54056005
Lore wise they have, but players are limited by the spells they are allowed to use. Canonically mages can do crazy shit. Hell a lot of the problems in WoW are from casters to stupid crazy shit.

>>54056005
What's 'impressive' that you're talking about? You mean blowing up a big chunk of land? Because they do that all the time.

>>54055963
One warlock blew up Draenor by creating too many portals at once.

>>54055968
>the strongest mages/druids/warlocks etc in WoW are also equivalent to epic-level DnD Spellcasters
...Really? I've certainly not gotten that impression from the jump, nor from my prior knowledge of WoW. Epic-level casters (and Ainz) can kill the deathless and casually stop time... Are they really?

>>54056028
>spoiler
Yeah, but they got depowered. At that point, they're just big dragons.

>>54054049
They should be, that sounds cool as fuck

Fiddle girl a best. A BEST

>>54056062
Bronze Dragons are entirely about manipulating time, senpai, and chronomancy is a magic people in WoW can learn (it's not available to players though iirc.)

>>54056028
I wonder how depressed Alex is in her day-to-day life. All her siblings are dead, all her mates are dead, and her flight is doomed to slowly die out from infertility.

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What are you and your Companions' emblematic weapons?

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Fingers crossed but this version should be good to go.

>>54055229

...Speaking hypothetically, how much/what kind of magic would be required to make a permanent, species-wide physical change like that?

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>>54056146

>>54056201
I'll do the changelog
>More drawbacks added
>Caste perks fully reworked
>All artifacts/weapons have an import option
>Mortal hero companion option
>Undiscounted appearance and sorcery perks

Things to do in the distant future:
>Manses
>More items

The majority of the jump should, finally, be done.

>>54055809
Does the airship have to have a picture of our face on it?

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>>54056146
You wouldn't believe people reaction after you hit them with an anchor. It helps that I was in the Greek Myths Jump as Poseidon son when I made it.

>>54055809
>Effects of Vigor use on your hands is temporary.
Aren't those just hallucinations? One of them even made another person look weird instead of Booker.

>>54056288
https://youtu.be/th4Czv1j3F8

>>54056224
Resident Evil's Virus Creator is a start.

>>54056343
Nice.

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So how does the Peter Pan jump look?

In addition to my past edits, I adjusted the price for Star-Talking (and gave a discount when it's taken with the Twinkle drawback) and lowered the price for Hidden Kisses. I also clarified Hidden Kisses' text so that the life-restoring kiss only works when the person's been recently dead, and there's a body left to kiss.

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>>54056260

>>54056201
>>54056260
Looks good to me.

>>54054814
Light of Terra has you spend 10 years on a wrecked ship, and 30 years living a trainwreck.

>>54056201
Exalted companions get a guarantee that their Exaltation will stay with them forever, right? We don't have to worry about it flying off if they die and get resurrected?

>>54056146
My Omniwrench Keyblade... when I get that far in my chain

>>54056474
Yes, whether through default companion respawns or otherwise, your companions' Exaltations should be fine. Consider it your benefactor/fiat/magical space gnomes throwing you a bone on that matter.

>>54056201
For Virtue of Compassion, do we fail the jump if something happens to the people we're protecting?

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>>54056109
Raid boss levels of depression?

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Added the Ugly Truth (Drop-In 400 item), edited Big Think (100 Item for 'Real' Scientist), moved An Iron Fist, Clothed in Velvet (now 400 item for Lemurian), added Universe Bible (new 600 item for Lemurian), and a drawback to reflect a recent thing that happened in the games I play in.

Need more items for Renascence Man, two lower level items for Lemurians, and formatting.

Tired now, work load was huge and I'm only just recovering from it all. However I'm as back as I can be for right now.

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>>54056531
You fail the jump only if something irreversible like being killed happens to them. You are not suddenly going to lose if someone stubs their toe or some wizened old elder passes away in their sleep. Loss happens only if you drop the ball really, really hard.

>>54054925
I have but I dont have a gluttony demon grimoire bound to my hand.

>>54055683
Gwenpool tying up SpiderGwen?

I thought nobody read my fan-fiction.

>>54056109
Plus the fact that Death Knights killed all of her whelps and a few adult dragons during their class mount quest.

>>54056532
It'd be great and terrible I imagine. Even if written well.

Meanwhile Odyn is all "I told you so!"

>>54056647
What heroes.

>>54055099
Orcs are an honorable warrior race. Praise the orc!

>>54056376
He looks kinda like a dick honestly.

>>54055616
>>54055123

It could be, with the right drawback.

How many points would that be worth? What kind of societal upheaval are we looking at from 'suddenly, horsecocks!'

>>54056538
Nani?

>>54055876
You could just say that it's because Essence is life energy and places of death interfere with that. Like trying to start a fire underwater.

>>54056707
It should cost 1000 points because only people who have that fetish would take it and drawbacks shouldn't be an advantage.

>>54056707
It wouldn't be worth any points because you shouldn't be rewarded for changing the setting to suit your fetish.

>>54056713
Is something wrong? Did I do something wrong?

>>54056637
Who is gwen?

>>54056701
Peter Pan? He can be kind of a brat sometimes, though he also has a strange charm to his character.

>>54056201
>A New Dawn
Pretty sure Exalts always go bonfire when they do Exalt.

But the news travelling that far is a fine drawback, if a little ridiculous in how they apparently get that knowledge.

>Creature of Darkness
>and until this condemnation is rescinded
So, can it be rescinded while in-jump, or is this just fluff?

>The Wyld Hunt Resurgent
>incredible fighters and warriors who can give even you a run for your money.
So, uh, does this scale to out-of-jump stuff to create world-destroying Shikari who immediately murder every other Anathema? Or does it mean there's a fuckton of the trained Shikari there were before the Wyld Hunt declined?

>>54055876
Wonder if a Devil-Tiger with an Inner World could draw Essence from their World?

>>54056664
>Meanwhile Odyn is all "I told you so!"

And then tfw Loken.

and tfw Ra.

>>54056538
...It just dawned on me how fun it'd be to combine Holy Grail from Persona 5 with the enhanced Lemurian Capstone.

Anyway, uh. Maybe Lemurian could have connections with mad scientist types as the 100/200? The background would probably have some friends by default, but having those kinds of people be neutral/friendly to you in other jumps seems worthwhile to me. Sorry if it's not terribly inspired.

>>54056201
Are the people from Virtue of Compassion also exempted from Follies of the First, or does that combination pretty much guarantee you'll lose?

>>54056828
Sure, it's completely real and not dead.

>>54056851
...There is one.

>>54056376
>So how does the Peter Pan jump look?
You forgot to change the version to 3.8
I don't know what else there is.

>>54055876
If you want to generate your own Essence internally, why don't you just shove a Protoshinmaic Vortex into your soul?

>>54056201
>The Arachnid's Needle
So, uh... Does it bestow any particular ability for the things it makes to not kill the wearer?

That suit of molten rock would kill most people before they finish dressing...

>>54056917
That sounds like a spectacular way to commit suicide.

>>54056917
No see what you do is you shove it in someone elses soul then make a charm that sucks power from them. That way if they go nova you have time to step back and cut the feed.

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>>54056798
The wording on Creature of Darkness is just fluff, although if you go on an epic quest to both pull the Sun away from the Games as well as some exploits of extreme virtue enough to convince him to take you off the shitlist, I am not gonna say no. Especially given that would probably take most of the ten years anyway.

The Wyld Hunt drawback is intended to make them scale up when fighting you, and to be a lot more focused on taking you down. The main issue with the Wyld Hunt is that it is understaffed and is now dealing with like 300 Solars as opposed to just one or two. Ordinarily they'll struggle to organize forces against you just because there are so many other targets. This drawback ensures that they are a constant legitimate threat to any jumper who takes it, as opposed to being able to write them off a lot of the time.

>>54056840
You would probably go to (very)extreme lengths to protect the people you have sworn to protect. Its not right to have a combo of drawbacks that is an auto lose, but I really would not recommend picking both those.

>>54056946
Yes. Solars are just that good at tailoring that the suit of molten rock just makes you feel pleasantly warm at best. Similar rules apply to any other forces of nature you want to turn into a pair of trousers.

>>54056917
That is a terrible idea, those things are the epitome of First Age Solars recklessly inventing dangerous shit.

>>54056774
Just a lazy way of calling attention to you in the bustle. Many people are posting things right now.

>>54056998
>>54056989
>>54056966
You guys just aren't thinking like Solars. Little things like "high chance of your soul exploring into unstable chaos" aren't worth thinking about.

>>54056837
>Anyway, uh. Maybe Lemurian could have connections with mad scientist types as the 100/200?
I guess I could have purchasable Beholden Followers and maybe Mane followers as well?

>>54057007
Ah.

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>>54056201
hey, if a weapon has more than one form would it retain the properties of the thing you Import it as in the other forms?
>>54056146
I've carried my sacred treasure with me for literal centuries,failing that my Lightsaber lantern shield.
>>54056538
hell yeah glad you're still doing this!

>>54056998
>That is a terrible idea, those things are the epitome of First Age Solars recklessly inventing dangerous shit.
What are those?

>>54056355
>Resident Evil's Virus Creator is a start.
Actually that's what I was planning on using as a base.

>>54056993
So is Sorcery worth it? What kind of cool shit can it do?

>>54057116
They are infinite essence generators that double as nukes, if nukes reduced several miles of the surrounding area to shapeless chaos.

>>54056201
For the 300CP group import do they have to have different castes?

>>54057134
>So is Sorcery worth it?
Definitely not.

>>54057116
>The most amazing and terrifying fact about PSVs is that all the energy they provide comes from the exterior corona that current motonic technology can tap. The structure of the interior compresses physical and metaphysical laws too tightly for scrutiny, though a leading hypothesis proposes that the core pandimensionally folds an entire Wyld continuum into the artificial congruity.

>>54057134
It can do a great deal, magic tactical nukes as well as more utilitarian purposes.

>>54057134
It can do a lot of cool stuff. 3e sorcery is better so I I fluff it that I use a hybrid version of it.

>>54056282
I don't understand the question.

>>54056327
I have honestly no idea. Either way it's temporary.

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>>54057134
Sorcery is pretty dope. It has a lot of spells that can pull a lot of work. Especially at the solar circle you start getting into crazy shit. Solar Sanctuary can summon up like a dozen manses over the course of an evening, Benediction of Archgenesis is a G.E.C.K, Pressed Beyond The Veil can shunt a city into Elsewhere making it almost impossible to get to, and Unity of the Closed Fist lets you do a fusion dance with any willing participants. Plus you can just start making your own spells up which always leads to good times. Sorcerous Workings are also a new thing from 3e which basically lets you cook up just about anything, up to and including altering reality to make it so anyone who wishes to learn sorcery can find a way to do it, at least at the highest level of solar working. Although these workings are limited by ability, resources, and time so do bear that in mind.

>>54057183
Nope they can be whatever caste you want.

>>54056834
Odyn was simply too naive to realize that none can overcome the corruptive influence of BLIZZARD WRITING.

>>54056201
Why are e5+ charms limited? The rationale for other splats was that they had not enough examples because most attention goes to Solars, but this is a Solars jump.

>>54057134
Yes. Especially if you go with 3e's variant.

It can throw entire regions outside of reality to only be accessed by you or those with a key, annihilate armies with a column of burning green light, afflict entire kingdoms with a curse that can only be broken through a specific condition, cast a protection around area that hides it from those that wish it harm for months at a time, summon, bind, and banish 3rd Circle demons, seal someone's soul into another vessel, create a protection that copies every attack made against you back at the attacker, temporarily fuse people together into a giant composite being of all of them, twist someone's lifeforce against themselves until it kills them (actually getting stronger against stronger victims), kill someone with five elemental attacks at any range as long as you have a link to them (the victim's soul transformed into an elemental, which appears by the Sorcerer bound to serve him), create instant oases or verdant paradises with an area of hundreds of square miles, and turn the water of rivers into fire.

And also summon the Magma Kraken

>>54056201
>>54056260
Unconquered Perk.
It regenerates (spiritual) energy pools?
negates Shaping/Reality Warping on your person?
Makes you pretty?
We've had a 'you personally are immune to being wished away' perk before, and it kind of sucked because instead of turning you into a pillar a scorpians directly they could just turn everything around you into anti-matter with the same ability. This is a solar perk, extend the range of that protection to the solars aura. Sort of like a Perk backed IPP.
The beauty thing, there is already a appearance perk in the general section. have buff the free perk like it buffs capstones instead of having 'Power & Majesty' come in levels.

>The Three Circles of Sorcery
have this some with some free spells so you can do something with it at the start, instead of being a spell-less sorcerer. The dispelling spell from each circle, the demon summoning spell of each circle, and 3 other spells for example.

>Lunar Mate
>Regardless, this option can only be purchased once, whether as an import or a new companion.
The ability for companions who are Solars to have lunar companion mates would be nice.

>Items
Organize by Caste and put prices with each item, like the perks have please? Glancing at them at them nothing wows me yet...

Wish there was a manse section.

>>54057447
>The beauty thing, there is already a appearance perk in the general section. have buff the free perk like it buffs capstones instead of having 'Power & Majesty' come in levels.
I strongly disagree.

>>54056201
Sword of the Sun seems kind of off for a Solar capstone. Seems like it should be about making you better than your enemies worse, given the Solar's themes.

Also, unconquerable should be reduced in price, since it's base effects are 2 chargen level merits and charms made permanent with an essence recharge rate.

Orgel of Origins duct-taped to Protoshinmaic Vortex, then dropped into a Portable Hole.

What happens.

>>54056201
You are the one who started the whole no 6+ custom charms thing and you need to be the one to end it. It never made sense, is completely non canon, and creates a whole ton of problems.

The original explanation was that Dragonbloods didn't have enough material for 6+ charms, well now it has carried over into other exalt types that do. Please kill it. It made no sense then and it makes even less sense now.

>>54056538
>Pankosmoi, the Needle Grail [400]:
What this does looks a lot clearer since the last WIP I saw. nice. reading now.

>>54056993
>This drawback ensures that they are a constant legitimate threat to any jumper who takes it, as opposed to being able to write them off a lot of the time.
You need to make it explicit that it scales to out of jump stuff, then, because most people have enough faith in their jumpmakers to assume that they wouldn't be retarded enough to offer a drawback for 1000s of scaling enemies for only 400 CP when boosting them to the level they were is already complete suicide.

>>54057569
>and creates a whole ton of problems.

Yeah, for you. Most other people are perfectly fine with it.

>>54057567
Everything with several miles is reduced to pure chaos.

Of course, that already happened when you tried to duct-tape the Vortex. But if you somehow managed that without destabilizing it, it'd probably happen anyway when it hits the bottom of the Portable Hole.

>>54057626
>most people have enough faith in their jumpmakers

>reviving this ancient meme

>>54057507
>I strongly disagree.
The two perks do the same thing appearance wise. Reduce the redundancy.

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>>54057567
>Your Coordinator's Face

>>54057602
Thanks for that. And if you happen to have suggestions I'm open for them for another three or four hours.

>>54057569
It says that companions can't make them, but it doesn't says that you cannot grab a Solar as an Einherjar (from Valkyrie Profile) and have him train and make them for you.

Or just handle Exaltations and have their bearers create charms for you. Or just use the Charms of your Third Circle Souls in Infernals by having them transferred to you through perks.

>>54057632
No they aren't. I have thread consensus.

>>54057632
It'd be better if they instead prevented people from learning E6+ Charms in the first place. The sourcebooks are not exhaustive, and being able to learn a few E6 Charms in-setting ales no sense when there's no distinction in the setting and there are plenty of Charms which aren't custom and aren't covered. Or at least allow people to draw on 3e or a list of homebrew Charms for inspiration.

>>54057569
Nobody knows what an Esssence 10 Solar charm would look like or do. If not for the restriction, my jumper would be doing the logical thing and rushing as many Essence 10 charms as possible, which means I'd have absolutely no idea what I was or wasn't capable of doing. Being restricted to canon charms is the only way I can model what my jumper has.

>>54057569
I know I shouldn't be responding to bait, but I have something for just such an occasion.

https://pastebin.com/XUMtWEsk

This is a direct copy-pasta of post-revision Dreams of the First Age, and the guidelines for Solar 6+ Charms.

Explain to me how to make all of this logically sound or in a way that won't heavily encourage (more) dick-measuring arguments, and I'll make a case for it.

If your arguments boils down to 'because I want it and I hate this', then I'm not going to bring it up again.
>>54057447
>Unconquered
I'm not having the 'Charms exist for this so the perk should be different/better' argument again. Most I'll agree with you on is that the appearance boost is redundant since it has a proper perk, now. I'll take a gander at it.

>Lunar Mates for companions
Kinda goes into a weird 'companions having companions' territory. You might be better off fan-wanking a newfound Lunar pack for the relevant jump just happening to be their bondmates?

>Three Circles
Sure.

>Items
Kind of a formatting consequence. Probably will look a bit neater in later updates? Oh boy I sound like an actual Exalted dev now!

>>54057707
No you don't. I have escaped my cage. None will catch me ever again.

>>54057569
It's a really stupid limit for Solars, since there probably are lots of E6+ charms laying around for them if you go looking for them.

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>>54057569
Why the fuck do they all still treat you seriously? Why do they reply?

>>54057569
I know you're shitposting, but I do agree. I mean, it's not much different from epic magic and no one banned that.

>>54057742
>in a way that won't heavily encourage (more) dick-measuring arguments

Just ignore them and trust people for once?

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>>54057567
i'm iking this plan anonymous.

>>54057770
Why do you make your shitposting so obvious?

>>54057742
>Explain to me how to make all of this logically sound or in a way that won't heavily encourage (more) dick-measuring arguments, and I'll make a case for it.

Heavens, this is Exalted. In Jumpchain. What's your point?

Do I need to remember that you gave away the Longinus in DxD with no drawbacks attached (like having something inside of them while retaining full powers)?

Limiting powers is so 2015. It's time to move on.

>>54056993
>>54057626
I'd think having the drawback make sure that regardless of difficulties the Realm is having, the Wyld Hunt they send against you are as good as the peak Wyld Hunt would be sufficient. It managed to drive Elder Essence Lunar Elders into the Wyld beyond creation after all. And kept them there until their exaltations broke. No fiat scaling should be implied, or needed.

>>54057784
Why is it shitposting to want some fucking jumpmaker-anon trust once in a while?

If this is really the best he can do, it's time to put this jump on the drive.

>>54057752
>>54057784
Because some of us actually want that ban to be lifted. It made sense when we didn't have so many jumps that involved reality warping and blowing up planets. Now it's just an arbitrary limitation with no real basis.

And I don't see how it would stop exalted wanking when you can make your own Exaltations now.

>>54057742
They could dick-measure harder already. There are dozens of magic systems that are uncapped, with comparable bullshit, and even less guidelines. I don't why people think Exalted is such a special snowflake setting that it should be restricted, even when there are plenty of examples to build from.

>>54055105
Nah, Lutece particles are regular particles that have been "quantum locked" to the fabric of spacetime, somehow. The Luteces discovered a process, not a particle.

>>54057742
>Kinda goes into a weird 'companions having companions' territory.
Could just have them take up companions slots as normal, like Infernals and Lunars has it? There's no real reason you /need/ to make them some special companion-companion just because they're a pair.

>You might be better off fan-wanking a newfound Lunar pack for the relevant jump just happening to be their bondmates?
Also, that'd require not importing them in Lunars and also taking the continuity drawback. Both of which I at least would rather not.

>>54057821
>Us
Another hook.

>>54056993
>The Wyld Hunt drawback is intended to make them scale up when fighting you, and to be a lot more focused on taking you down. The main issue with the Wyld Hunt is that it is understaffed and is now dealing with like 300 Solars as opposed to just one or two. Ordinarily they'll struggle to organize forces against you just because there are so many other targets. This drawback ensures that they are a constant legitimate threat to any jumper who takes it, as opposed to being able to write them off a lot of the time.


So now you have upgraded all the Dragon Blooded to E10 and multiplied their numbers a few hundred times so they can hope to compare to 100 jumps Jumper?

>>54057870
>Constantly calling others shitposters to keep his nerfboner on

Shitposter detected.

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>>54057743
Oh no you don't, get back here!

>>54057887
And then they fiat-scale on top of it, it seems. The only way you'd even have a chance of surviving the drawback is with out-of-jump stuff, but now it's pretty much completely impossible. But 400 CP seems to be the "capstone drawback" price in this jump, so that's to be expected.

Any chance for Mardukth/Wukong/Heavens/AbyssalAnon to collaborate to allow Lunar bond companions a CP budget in the appropriate jump?

>>54057826
>>54057770
>>54057785
You guys must be either really fast readers or completely missed the point here. Or didn't bother with the pastebin. Honestly, either sounds fine to me.

The problem with 6+ Charms and their guidelines is that they make no bloody sense. It's basically [handwave x10]. I recall the original reason for not bothering is because it'd lead to a swarm of FAQ that nobody would really know the answer to. I wasn't part of the original discussion And the cap is on customs, not canon ones, last I checked. I think you can still buy the ones shown in Dream?
>double-checks notes
Yeah, you can.

Anyways, if anyone can make sense of the charm guidelines I pasted and make them into a coherent template for others, I'll either agree or stop arguing about it.

But the odds of that are about the same as a meteor crashing into my bathroom and making a perfect slam-dunk in the sink.

Seriously, try it. I really do wanna see someone shoot for the moon, here.
>>54057868
Fair point. I'll think about it. That's an awful lot of companions, though, and it feels like it'd undercut Lunars a bit...? I feel like I'd have to ask Mardukth about it.

>>54057945
What the fuck did they do to that poor book!?! Like, holy fuck! My rage is eternal.

>>54057982
You've yet to see the mary sue elf eh?

>>54056538
Sugoi

Jumpable?

>>54057964
Or you just don't listen like you usually do.

>>54057998
I knew it was going to be bad so I didn't see it, but holy crap. I need to invent new curse words to explain the pure hatred of my soul.

>>54058006
Not yet. Got a few more items to hammer out.

>>54057742
Okay, I know you're just going to think I'm the guy baiting you, but I'm not. I am going to make a case for it, however.

Canon E6+ stuff for Solars that I can think of off the top of my head includes an archery Charm that lets you launch an arrow that can hit anyone under the sun and another Charm that lrts you see anything that's happened under the sun for the last few centuries. The only Essence 10 thing I can think of is that the Charm that allows you to perform surgery to restore a person's youth upgrades to allow you to not have to pay a point of temporary willpower to avoid needing to renew it yearly or have them return to old age. Sure, that stuff is impressive, but honestly isn't that big of a deal. Certainly nothing you wouldn't be able to do better with less time in other magic systems or probably even Sorcery as it is now in Exalted.

>Explain to me how to make all of this logically sound or in a way that won't heavily encourage (more) dick-measuring arguments, and I'll make a case for it.
Eh? I don't see how it'll encourage more. People who don't understand Exalted will continue wanking/hating it as they always have and those that do know and like it will just be able to do mkre with their Exalted stuff, enhancing their enjoyment of it instead of feeling gimped.

>>54057964
Infernals allows it, although they still cost 200 CP there. Then again, the Akuma option gives them their Yozi's perks.

>>54057998
She was never as much of a sue as Legolas is in those movies.

>>54057964
>Anyways, if anyone can make sense of the charm guidelines I pasted and make them into a coherent template for others, I'll either agree or stop arguing about it.

So, what do you think of making custom epic spells in D&D?

>>54056146
My signature weapon actually is a companion. Heaven Punisher began life as Mucro Regis: Takezo from BlazBlue, before being imported as a Demon Weapon in Soul Eater so that I could grant it perks in addition to the other upgrades. The name is a reference to the Chinese comic Feng Shen Ji, where the swordsman Zi Yu (best character in the comic, wish he was the protagonist instead of Ah Gou even though I actually do like Ah Gou a lot) is able to summon and banish countless swords using "smelting aura", the setting's equivalent of chi. His strongest blade he can create using smelting aura is Heaven Punisher, a flaming blade able to burn the divinity out of a god. My Heaven Punisher has a similar feature in that it can vanish into incorporeality when I'm not wielding her, and also has some strong anti-magic and anti-divine features, so that's her title when we get all mythological.

>>54057964
>It's basically [handwave x10]
So, like most magic systems then? How often do you see people ask CJ if a certain type of spell would be ok in DC Occult? Or Val about the plausibility of a technique using Pulling Powers Out of Her Ass? The answer is almost never. I think the fact that Exalted is a tabletop game is making you forget that "hand-waving shit" is how the vast majority of magic and tech perks work. Having vague rules is usually the standard, not the exception.

>>54058045
I think the anon was talking about the Elves from the other books. They're kinda bullshit.

>>54058078
>Or Val about the plausibility of a technique using Pulling Powers Out of Her Ass?
Not anymore, but it used to be incredibly common. I think there was one guy who did it as trolling.

>>54058079
No.

>>54058045
She's more of a self-insert though.

>>54057742
>I'm not having the 'Charms exist for this so the perk should be different/better' argument again.
I'm arguing this
>Just as well, your light banishes all attempts to erase or deny your existence - the only things that will alter your body or being is what you permit, though you may still be wounded by force or destruction.
needs an area effect or it just gets sidestepped by enemies altering the space just outside where you are to the same effect. And it just effecting your body doesn't make a lot of sense given the
>your light banishes all attempts to erase or deny
part. their light should cover a radius.

Unconquered is about 100 CP to expensive as is. It needs a buff or a price drop, not a nerf like removing the appearance effect charging separately for that.

>Kinda goes into a weird 'companions having companions' territory.
Not so.

Like 100 CP, you can have a Lunar Mate, new or imported, or for 200 CP, any Solars purchased above can also have Lunar mates as well, new or imported. You would be spending the CP, not the companions.

Like how the Solar option is 100/300/600, the Lunar Mate option could come in two tiers.

This guy is insistently samefagging now. Heavens, please just ignore him and put it on the drive.

>>54058098
>No.
No to what exactly?

>>54058097
It was "common" for maybe a week after the jump was released. Probably by all of one guy.

This guy is insistently samefagging now. Heavens, please just ignore him and wait awhile before putting it on the drive.

>>54057964
>Anyways, if anyone can make sense of the charm guidelines I pasted and make them into a coherent template for others, I'll either agree or stop arguing about it
The guidelines are bullshit. Here is the guideline for the Essence level that includes fucking Heavenly Guardian Defense:

>Charms with an Essence minimum of 2 are usually feats appropriate to pulp and epic heroes.

The truth is there's no difference at all between Essence 5, 6, and 7 Charms, which is why they're all available to young Solars. The 6 and 7 ones are artificially inflated just so they can claim to have high essence charms in the book.

By the same token, Essence 8 and higher exist solely so that the authors can block you from getting a certain effect by making it canon that you need a higher than possible Essence score. I recall one of the devs, probably Holden, saying they wrote Youth Restoring Benison just to demonstrate how hard it was for Solars to undo aging.

>>54057964
>I feel like I'd have to ask Mardukth about it.
I think he'd be perfectly fine with it. The lunar jump has a Solar mate option, and Infernals has Lunar Mates with optional FREE Heart-Pupils!

>>54057830
>The Luteces discovered a process, not a particle.
Ah. Thanks, anon!

>>54058128
I'm not talking about LotR elves in general you stupid fuck.

>>54058098
Generally self inserts don't wind up getting off with a dwarf.

It was more that she was a badly written character and every scene with her in was painfully and unnecessarily tacked onto the plot.

>>54057964
C'mon. We have Marvel and DC Magic. Aside from Umineko's magic, you can't get higher than that.

>>54058169
>>The truth is there's no difference at all between Essence 5, 6, and 7 Charms, which is why they're all available to young Solars
No they're not. Great evidence you don't know the game.

>>54058029
Was mostly talking about how to make it a template that's easy for /jc/ folks to use and understand, but, that's a fair point. I feel like there's a weird dissonance between the guidelines and the actual Charms, though.

I'll concede I don't have a good rebuttal, here. I'm mostly wondering if there's ways to narrow it down a bit better? There is a bit less content for Sidereals and Lunars, if I remember right, though the latter do get 'BECOME HUEG' knacks after a while.

Anyways, touche', anon.
>>54058058
I don't think, really.
>>54058038
Wait, it does?
>checks
Well, hot damn, nevermind then. Lunar Mates for everyone!
>>54058078
Actually that happened a lot when Majikoi first came out and when people kept decrying DC Occult magic as 'easy omnipotence'. Those were just generally jackassery and trolling, though, so your point still stands. That's fair.

Alright, I'll concede on this since I was mostly interested in seeing if the guidelines could be made sense of. Whether or not that changes is still up to the jumpmakers and not really something I have control of. That and the guy who made Sidereals is gone, I believe?

But, honestly, guys. If it bothers you so much, just ignore it and keep it to yourselves. There's no thought police out to stop you. There's not that much of a net difference when it comes down to it, especially since custom charms are a weird gray area as it is. I've only seen Battler go the full mile and make trees for it.
>>54058169
Completely accurate. I'm glad someone caught it.
>>54058116
...wait, isn't that how anti-Shaping/anti-reality warping perks have worked since...ever? Did I miss a memo, here?

I could do the following
1. Make the anti-Shaping an AoE, ala Wyld-shaping Technique
2. Take out the appearance boost
3. Make it 400, which will encourage more Caste purchases.

How's that, or am I paying too much attention to this?
>>54058221
Pre-Voyager cap says what

>>54057964
You don't need to? The guidelines are flowery, poetic, and vague. Like everything else in Exalted. That's the same type od language that Devil Tiger stuff uses.

There's no direct guide for what each E6+ Essence level should entail... but is there a direct guide for what E1-5 should?

Besides the fact that that's how most magic and whatnot works to begin with – including the fact that there is even more vague and bullshit stuff in some of your other jumps like how magic is supposed to work in Highschool DxD for example or what you're actually capable of when your reach the levels of the Gods of Destruction in DBZ... besides that fact, so what? This is an imagination game. It all runs off of fanwank and making shit up. We're not treading new territory here.

>>54057411
>I don't understand the question.
Not that anon, but I think they're asking for a version without their face.

Also, I'm assuming to get canon companions other than Elizabeth (such as the Luteces) you'd still need out of jump means (pod, blue feather, etc)?

>>54058208
She was there entirely because the original novel had no women in the group. She's there for the female audience entirely.

>>54058232
Here's a rebuttal: If you do what the shitposter is demanding you do, you give him cause to shitpost at Mardukth and Wukong to change their jumps too, and he's going to attack them constantly until they allow Essence 6+ charms.

>>54058270
I'm not changing the charm clause? Like, at all? That's outside of my territory, anyways. Only thing I'm considering is the capstone boost right now.

>>54058232
>>54058270
Also since InNomine is no longer around he's going to shitpost and attack him like he does SoAnon and Dirge, as well as castigate his Sidereals jump and shitpost about it whenever it comes up.

>>54058288
Well you keep telling him he's 'made a good point' indicating you're thinking about removing the charm cap.

>>54058288
But muh canon.

Okay I need help again. The JoJo jump mentions a supplement for creating stands but I can't find it. Am I looking in the wrong place or does drive just hate me?

>>54058311
Nice bait.

>>54058205
Wow you are an abrasive person. Alright then, you didn't mean some of the other, more Mary Sue Elves but one in particular.

>>54058066
>Feng Shen Ji
jump when

>>54058311
There isn't one.

>>54058232
I'll admit I'm not so well versed in non-Solaroid stuff. I do love God-Beast Transcendence for Lunars, though. Becoming a giant Kaiju monster is awesome!

>>54057742
Because a bunch of flowery language is not a basis for fiat restriction? Seriously that is all just a colorful descriptions that literally just amount to house rule it.

"Custom Charms" is completely arbitrary and only means anything from an OOC meta point of view. How does such a restriction even work in chain, if it was just no learning 6+ charms then fine that would suck but fine.

This just makes no damned sense.

Any of the high essence charms are lost and Exalted jumpers or their companions would have to recreate them, does that mean they are banned custom charms? What about all the 6+ charms we know exist but aren't listed for one reason or another, are they banned custom charms even when jumper just found them in setting? Is it just a completely meta thing that fucks with the setting in a futile attempt to keep anons from wanking?


This is like saying, OK epic magic can do a lot of shit and since in the non gameplay version of D&D it has a much wider range of stuff it could potentially do it is banned so that nobody wanks that they win everything forever with some weird super spell. While completely ignoring that anyone who is going to do that will do it anyway with the rule only screwing over people who just want to have fun with it.

>>54058311
Praying this isn't bait.
It doesn't exist because back when JoJo was still around in thread and IRC, there was a time where she tried to help bridge the gap between the two - and people on both sides basically just took a giant shit on them.

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>>54058311

Stop baiting.

>>54057732
>Esssence 10 Solar charm
It does mention Essence 10 charms in Age of Dreams in the sidebar

>Charms with an Essence minimum of 10 denote powers beyond those which forged the universe. Not even the Primordials fully understand Essence 10; at this level of effect, the intellects which defined existence find themselves in the position of discovery. What challenges even the Primordials, a Solar may come naturally to grasp and engender: power beyond all reason.

>>54058362
Reminder that the Deathlords are Essence 10.

>>54058306
It's possible to stop arguing with someone without heavily insisting I'm the correct party.
>>54058347
Anyways, this isn't my department. You guys can talk to me about this til the cow's come home, but I can't and won't really do anything about it. Exalted's spread between several jumpmakers and I can't really speak for them. I just volunteered to help Wu because I'm a Solarfag.
>>54058341
It's pretty fantastic, not gonna lie.

>>54058232
>>But, honestly, guys. If it bothers you so much, just ignore it and keep it to yourselves. There's no thought police out to stop you. There's not that much of a net difference when it comes down to it, especially since custom charms are a weird gray area as it is. I've only seen Battler go the full mile and make trees for it
If your response is going to basically be "don't like it, edit the document" could you put it in a google doc link so I don't have to convert the pdf and potentially have to fix corrupted text?

>>54058322
>>54058359
I'm not baiting I'm new.

>>54058338
>>54058355
Thank you this is helpfull. Now I won't waist time trying to find it. I'll let my friend know as he was searching for it too.

>>54058362
That was in Heaven's link, buddy.

>>54058374
And yet they haven't accomplished jack shit sort of stealing a few Exaltations.

>>54057732
No you wouldn't, even without the fiat restriction you would have to surpass the primordials and Incarne to even start dicking around in E10. If you are that powerful you have probably reached a point in your chain where even Exalted is small potatoes for you.

>>54058232
>spoilers

Don't lump everybody in with him.

>>54057964
Why are you so adamant about blocking shit from a street-level setting? Seriously, Creation would be conquered by modern Earth quite easily. A single E5 Solar choked out a Primordial, so even they aren't that strong.

>>54058412
No I'd just have to wait 1000 years and then train for 10 months. That's all there is to it.

>>54057945
Where can I get mad skills like this?

>>54058412
Yeah, E10 takes a Millennia at minimum if you basically do Shounen training levels of effort the whole time, right? If a Jumper is that dedicated to busting their ass in training, they're probably bench pressing neutron stars with Dragonball ki by then or something.

>>54058405
>I'm not baiting I'm new.
Lurk more etc.
Also, you might want to download the whole drive at once or something as it sometimes "eats" files/makes them invisible.

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>>54058405
>I'm not baiting I'm new.

Sorry, let me rephrase.
"Lurk more"

...Assholish attitude aside, welcome to this hellhole.

When you will make that Dog Days Jump,btw?

Come on, guys. You'd make really shitty Exalts. They were literally made to do the impossible and break the laws of cosmic beings. If you're restricted from making high Essence Charms you just get creative and try harder.

Don't wine, just get to work.

>>54058232
>I could do the following
>1. Make the anti-Shaping an AoE, ala Wyld-shaping Technique
>2. Take out the appearance boost
>3. Make it 400, which will encourage more Caste purchases.
>How's that, or am I paying too much attention to this?
I like those changes!
Although I would have removed the 400 CP version of Power & Majesty, and had Unconquered boost it instead. Unconquered would boost the free version to the 200 CP version, and the 200 CP version to the "golden essence of the Unconquered Sun" version.

>>54058481
Using a phone. No idea how to do this.

>>54058546
>Don't wine, just get to work.

You're literally in a thread with a bunch of assholes who'd prefer to buy shit with this omniscient arbitrary currency than actually earn their fucking gainz and life.

>>54058456
You have at minimum another 100 jumps on top of Exalted by that point, when you reach E10 you are already so far above Exalted it isn't funny.

So I guess I stand corrected, by the time you are old enough to even try to make E10 charms they have little to no meaning to you.

>>54058546
You realize the majority of this community is anti-creative, right?

Anyone have that God Eater jump that was made a while back and wasn't posted in thread? I want to save it till someone does an official jump of it.

>>54056109
The only ethical and compassionate thing to do for her then is to breed her with great zeal

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>>54058028
Cool beans. Thanks for the work so far, looking forward to when it's done

>>54055809
Wew, made myself dizzy scrolling up and down for the right version to redo build for

Drawbacks: 1999 Mode, Songbird, Scavenger (1400)

Prophet, age 27

Cult of Personality (Free)
Baptism (1200)
Particle Physics (900)
Barbershop Quartet (875)
Lockpicks (850)
Sky-Hook (Free)
Elizabeth (800)
Tears (200)
Minibar (100)
Companion Import: Necron Spyder, Elodie, Bayonetta, Jeanne
-Lamb: Lockpicking (Free), Tears (200), Codebreaker (0)

"Help! I'm an interdimensional traveller from another reality!"

"Really? Me too! Do YOU also frequently bumble ass-first into all manner of belligerant ne'er do-wells?!"

"That's an odd way of putting it, but actually-yes"

"Good. Because we're about to fight like, a dozen"

"Wait, what are you doing with your skyhook?"

"Golden Ratio, don't fail me now"

Cue screaming pinkermen falling out of the sky, and Jumper flying by flapping his arms, while a very bewildered girl rides on his shoulders.

Elizabeth took magic (and Stands) being real pretty well. The Songbird's freaked her out until I showed her that a) magic can be taught and b) as an Electric.Metal-type, it's weak to water attacks.

Downing THAT got Comstack all riled up. By the time we literally ran into Booker and Elizabeth Prime, the whole city was out for blood. Bastards let an entire building fall after it turns out dousing a quantum ghost with the First Flame makes terrible, terrible things happen.

So, I had to go full angel to put the literal fear of God in the old man. Incidentally, smite the Siphon into a pillar of salt. Salts, rather. Gotta love the classics!

After coming through our misadventure a mostly stronger person, my very own Elizabeth Delta talked Elizabeth Prime out of suicide by giving her a new purpose in life as a one-woman infinite barbershop quartet. We spent the rest of the decade touring alternate versions of Columbia and singing for our supper.

>>54058551
I would very much prefer if it continued working like most of the other Exalted jumps, instead of forcing people to buy a Booster just so they can be pretty.

I want to eat someone and then metaphysically steal their life. How do I do this?

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>>54058640
Hellsing, you fucking scrub.

>>54058616
She's infertile.

>>54058683
Jumpers anon, jumpers.

>>54058683
We have that Doves perk, and someone spoke of using it on a car so it probably would work then.

>>54058683
Receptive Doves says otherwise.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's other ways around that.

But can't you just make E5 Charms that gain additional things as you get to E6+?

Isn't that the entire fucking reasoning behind Infernals?

>>54058683
that's what Receptive doves is for

>>54058683
You're just not trying hard enough, anon

>>54058683
Here's the thing. The dragons were giving birth plenty until years after the Cataclysm. So whatever fuckery ruined it happened SLOWLY - which means you can likely fix it before it becomes a problem.

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Minor update:
>Unconquered is now an AoE anti-shaping effect, loses appearance boost, is now 400 instead of 500.
>Appearance perk is unchanged.
>Solar companions can now buy lunar mates. Expected increase of fluffy tail ratios in Jumpchain.

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>>54056146
Timebreaker, a ridiculously souped up brave sword. And by souped up, I mean is has a 1073741824x time dilation field on it. Or in other words, unless you have some ludicrous level of speed, thats how many turns i get before you get to go.

>>54058774
> I mean is has a 1073741824x time dilation field on it.

I would like it if you said how you achieved such.

>>54058714
Even at the pros have trouble balanceing the lower Essence levels, I say pro as in they are professional and thus get paid to troubleshoot/propose/invent these things.

THUNDER BREAKS THE CLOUDS
Cost:10m, 2wp; Mins:Martial Arts 4, Essence 3; Type:
Reflexive (Step 10)
Keywords:Combo-OK, Obvious
Duration:Instant
Prerequisite Charms:Solar Hero Form
The character’s fists blaze with the regulatory truth of the Unconquered Sun. This Charm may be activated whenever the Solar successfully strikes a being with an unarmed attack. Tongues of cleansing golden flames erupt from the target’s eyes and mouth and she screams in pain as every instance of unnatural mental influence affecting her abruptly terminates regardless of source or potency. Only the fealty of akuma, the bindings of demons, the Great Curse and similarly inviolable effects chosen by the Storyteller ignore this Charm.

Say hello to the cheapest Anti-Mind Control thing I could find that works on anything ever that isn't 'inviolable'.

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>Jumper hears that dragon mom is sad her family and loved ones are all dead.
>Solution is to marry her and knock her up repeatedly.

>>54058741
Bring in some Dragon Slaying Weapons, and the usual Jumper bull, and you might even be able to kill Deathwing without the whole Dragon Soul investiture being necessary! Then you just need to find a sane Black Dragon to take his place. Maybe bestow them with some corruption resistance perks.

>>54058798
Lets give it a boost from unholy heights. It comes with a basic 2x effect, so I just spent a few jumps feeding it copies of itself.

At this point, anyone who isnt me or a companion would probably drop dead from the MP cost of actually using it at full power, but hey. That sounds like a good security feature.

>>54058546
As long as we're talking about creativity, anyone got advice on what not to do when creating hybrid life forms?

>>54058837
Blast-Ended Skrewts.

>>54058827
Or just use Wrathion. He's already uncorrupted.

He's not GOOD, but he's sane, even if his plans sometimes blow up in his face.

>>54058741
Id argue that 'plenty' part because the difference between Cata and Legion is 4 years at most. Warcraft dragons could also take after d&d dragons and have up to 2 years between the fertilization of the egg and hatching.

That said, wouldn't it just be easier to find a way to kill deathwing without using the dragon soul then it would to re-fertilize an entire species?

>>54058816
You're in a community full of lonely, anime-as-fuck anonymouses

They don't care about the character. Just the exotic vagina attached.

>>54058816
A new family can't replace the old one, but it can fill the void in your heart,

>>54058861
>wouldn't it just be easier to find a way to kill deathwing without using the dragon soul

Yes.

>>54058683
Cloning is a thing.

>>54058831
I never thought of that, pretty good idea.

>>54058859
Except Wrathion isn't born until the Cataclysm. So if you kill Deathwing before that, you mighta just butterflied Wrathion away.

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>>54058546
I did! In the name of ENFORCING the laws of said cosmic beings. Which may have to be re-broken a little before being reset properly, like a damaged bone. The point being there's no point being an extra-Primordialised Devil-Tiger made of Exaltations and 'roided up on perfection if you're just using it to metaphorically flip the table over AGAIN, because that's been proven to not work by history.

>>54056109
From what I can tell, the last of the Dragon Aspects is ASTONISHINGLY well adjusted considering her entire life is like something out of a PoW survival story.

I mean, good for her getting back on her feet and all but. Damn, at this point her utter lack of overt suffering is practically Kiaralike. Except without the worldhumping.

>>54058741
Very, VERY noted; fingers crossed I can fix that without having to persuade Alex and Ysera to go on a road trip looking for magical fertiliser AND ALSO avoid >>54058816

>>54058827
>dragonborn intensifies

>>54058837
Allow yourself to be trapped into paying alimony to one or both of the parents. KEEP YOUR SAMPLES SEPARTE lest you get more of an ungodly chimera than you wanted.

And don't distinguish nature and nurture-it all adds up in the end

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>>54058861
>kill Deathwing without the Dragon Soul

While anti-dragon weapons are a good starting point, they have to get through his armor. You could always fly into his mouth mounted on a Night Fury wielding a Greater Mounted Dragonlance and hit him from the inside, but that could also go horribly wrong if you don't have enough fire resist/immunity.

>>54058925
Well, that just gives you a really tiny window to do it, and apparently Edgelord Metaljaw isn't his actual dad.

>>54058937
>Except without the worldhumping
Wat

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>>54058954
Don't ask.

>>54058952
Nope.
He's actually an abomination.

>>54058938
There are a number of weapons in the chain that ignore armor. Some ignore it and flesh to cut the soul (DOTA2, I think?), others just straight up ignore protections (like the Castigator from Sisters of Battle).

>>54058937
>Avoiding a new waifu
but why

>>54058816
She likes having a family, there is nothing wrong with helping her with that

>>54058938
>mounted on a night fury
We have a How to Train Your Dragon Jump?