/dcg/ Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander General

>>53987969
since the old thread reached it's bump limit I'll re ask, what kind of cars did you use for those?

Reposting polls for next shipgirl.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13243521
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243478
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243491
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243500
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243515

>>53989154
Fucker should've used Samurai instead. As all good reconquestors know, the best way to not get btfo in CQB is to not get into CQB in the first place.

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Posting my table

>>53991182
>>53991229
>>53991241
>>53991266
Again, what kind of cars did you use for your table?

>>53989659
>Shaltari is winning
>Voidgate is tied with Diamond
>we might be getting voidgate shipgirl
Fug

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UCM Legionaires can express only two emotions.
Stoic dourness and rapturous bloodlust.

>>53994940
It's all you need for a good time.

>>53991898
Not him, but they look like N scale architectural model cares, can usally pick up a hundred of so off of eBay for less than a fiver

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Those are definitely cheapo ebay N scale cars. Pic related: it's mine.

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So I've been working on my dropfleet stuff, and letting my dropzone stuff build up; I didn't realise how much of a backlog I've got until I put it together just now...

Gonna get into DZC Scourge stuff. Any tips on things to get? How are Screamers? They seem so different to any other units it's a little hard to comprehend how they're meant to be used.

>>53995710
personally I don't play scourge, but Iirc people generally agree that the tormenter is, generally, not a competitive option, same goes for their corsairs.

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>>53995710

I hate fighting Screamers. Everyone hates to fight Destroyers but they're an exotic choice and that means filling out an Occupation Patrol scourge troopslot.

survive thread!

I think screamers are cool, but you don't really need them. You have your searching troops and then units like destroyers, to fight CQBs. If you need to. With them I can do multiple role, where the screamer just really fills one.

Any info on how many pieces the advanced sector pack contains? It's sensors/power plant/laser from what I recall, but any word on how many of each?

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Made some trees for DZC

>>54003557
I don't think we have heard anything.

>>54003678

Nice!

What was the method?

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Set up the table again tonight

>>53991898

China cars, cheap. Buy off eBay for 5-7$

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WIP scourge battleship, daddylobster.

Need to buy a giant enemy crab

>>54006369
A clickytech Jupiter?

>>53998519
With the quality of Scourge scouts that doesn't seem like a big problem. It's not like UCM where the only scout you'll ever need is in a support slot.

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Little parallel I noticed while painting up my scimitars.

At top: BTL from cruiser kit
At bottom: Scimitar turret

>>54008611
...and for some reason it's rotated 90 degrees. I'm sure you can tell which is which

>>54008611
I've noticed similar things with my PHR for the Hyperion laser and supernova laser as well as the railguns with heavy broadsides. I like seeing the designs carry through.

>>53997032
God corsairs are shit.

Why can't their accuracy just be improved one step? It would be a huge fix.

Tormentors aren't so bad. They're still not great, but the biggest reason they aren't picked is that people don't recognize the value of area denial, assuming a unit that doesn't get to shoot is worthless.

>>54009339
Tormentors just don't offer that much to the faction, especially nowadays. They're not a bad unit in a vacuum though armour 9 wouldn't go amiss but a flame unit that isn't super speedy and doesn't do anything else can't have that much of a place in the faction with the best CQB in the game.
Compare it to Fireblades. Almost the same unit, yet Fireblades are well loved while Tormentors are ignored. That's because UCM takes to CQB like a fish takes to an oil spill, so they need a flame unit to offset that. Whereas Scourge can just shoot a few Razorworms through a wall and fly in some Destroyers/Eviscerators.

But you can't have a discussion about shitty Scourge units without Vampires and Invaders. Old Ones can come too.

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>>54011777
Now that's a damn nice paint job.

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>somebody selling "1 - 2 of everything" for Dropzone PHR including books and gear for $110 on eBay
I'd buy it in a heartbeat if literally anyone else played DZC around here

>>54007334
Good eye - yes

>>54006369
Are those bottlebrush trees?

>>54011777

Oh man that is great!

Is that the ghost tint method?

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>>54013452
It's not mine, I just use pictures from the internet to bump thread. That particular one is from:
http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9723

>>54014181
Damn nice paint job!

bump this thread Eurofags and Amerifats

>>54014181
Damn that is one slick paint job. I love the little vents on the Scylla.

Does anyone have suggestions for setting up a DZC demonstration game? I've got sufficient PHR, Shaltari, and UCM to host something, but I feel like the base starter scenario is a bit too limited on battlegroup variety.

>>54020167
I'd say bring the starter set then an equally priced 'big' unit to show differences between the factions. A Hades for PHR, perhaps a unit of heavy tanks in an albatross for the UCM, a big swarm of prowlers for Scourge, and a warstrider of your choice for Shaltari. Something to let each faction's different tastes show through. I definitely wouldn't bring command cards, just a suggestion.

>>54006369

You guys have such great stuff I am peanut butter and jelly.

Time to buy some n-scale stuff to make my board look better.

>>54020341
Same here anon, same here. Though I get the feeling that most people on this board are way better painters than I so I'm not so sure how much I'll wanna show my work!

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>>54020743
Believe in yourself anon

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Dave stop playing and get back to sculpting.

I need my Idris Elba.

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I shall bump this thread by harnessing the pure rage of a true UCM Legionnaire.

Remove hedgehog. Nuke jelly. UCM stronk.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dropzone-Commander-UCM-Massive-Lot-1600-retail-worth-New-/122546417631?hash=item1c8855efdf:g:U-QAAOSwPK1ZPxD1

Some dingus is selling 1k worth of dropzone.

Why does he have so much unpainted.

>>54025709
Sure, $1100 sounds like a lot, but the listing offers you financing for an easy monthly payment of $52/mo! You'd be crazy not to jump on that deal!

All that and I don't even think it's one New Orleans worth of soldiers.

>>54025709
I assume he got a lot for real cheap, or otherwise he's actually an insane person. 6 Seraphim and 42 Legionnaire bases is more than anyone needs.

I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation but it's funnier to imagine someone throwing down four figures on every possible component for a game with no rhyme or reason and then never bothering to touch it again.

>>54013242
be the change you want to be.
consider picking up two different boxes and introduce people to the game, talk to your store owner.
I mean it could back fire, but it's better than nothing.

>>54025709

A store near me (well, in my country) had a similiar list of stuff when they went out of business. Got some cheap Falcon-As and Legionnaires that way.

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Are either of the Menchits useful for anything these days?
Those spud rockets have got me curious.

>>54028289
A1 is still fucking terrible.

A2 is good. You can get away with being a slow flame unit when you double as an AT shitkicker and aren't stuck in a squad with long range units. They're perfect for going after big multi-wound things like Shaltari heavies and Resistance hovercraft.

>>54020214
Looking at UCM, PHR, and Shaltari, I have:

Kodiak in a Condor with Missiles
3x Sabres in a Condor with Missiles
3x Rapiers in a Condor with Missiles
2x3 bases of Legionnaires in 2x Bears in a Condor

2x Ares in a Neptune
2x Phobos in a Neptune
2x Immortals in 2x Triton A1s
Hades

Gharial
3x Eden
2x Haven
3x Tomahawks
3x Kukri
2x Braves

Would the Tritons or added "cool" models skew things particularly hard in one faction's favor?

>>54029483
Triton's aren't all that great to begin with so...

>>54029774
Last I heard they were a lot better than Junos.

>>54029483
That UCM is a bit shit desu. Kodiak doesn't need transport and is pretty useless without spotters anyway, and Bears are a generally poor choice unless you're using heavy weapons teams.
Raven-As would be a good investment, and perhaps some Wolverines and Raven-Bs to spot for the Kodiak as well.

PHR on the other hand has Tritons and a Hades. Light dropships are just plain better than APCs, so that's a definite advantage they have over UCM (Havens are a bit of a weird outlier with their Shaltari warp fuckery, so they should be fine).
I'm not sure either rival faction really has the tools to deal with a Hades, especially a walk on Hades. At 900pts with a more concrete force, sure. But not at 700 with forces focused around the starter. And the big guy is going to be mostly demo and area denial anyway, since he wasn't designed as a walk on unit. Consider replacing it with Zeus+Odin in a Neptune.

You nailed it with Shaltari imo. Gharial is a solid centerpiece that is very powerful and flashy, but can still be effectively engaged by Sabres and Ares.


Maybe try:
>Kodiak
>4x Wolverine B in 2x Raven B with missiles
>3x Sabre in a Condor
>3x Rapier in a Condor
>4x Legionnaire bases in 2x Raven A

>Zeus+Odin in a Neptune
>2x Ares in a Neptune
>2x Phobos in a Neptune
>4x Immortal bases in 2x Triton A1

>3x Eden
>2x Haven
>Gharial
>3x Tomahawk
>3x Kukri
>4x Brave bases

>>54030464
My bad, the Triton's aren't the apcs. They're actually pretty good.

What wargame mats are available for dropfleet?

I know of the deep cut studios ones. Anything else?

>>54032181
There's one group that has a bunch on ebay. Most of the DZC-supporting companies do DFC too.

>>54029483

I dunno if I'd show up with 2 Immortals in 2 Tritons to a demo game. You get your infantry killed, and the game *stops*.

>>54032181
Just print out satellite view of parts of Earth that aren't super recognizable to whoever will be playing

>>54032619
With like google earth?

>>54032697
NASA has some pretty neat stuff, can't remember the site though

>>54032742
https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov

This guy I guess

>>54032866
Not the one I was thinking of, but fucking neat as

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http://brushesandbayonets.blogspot.lt/2016_07_01_archiv

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>>54034667
Whoops borked link
http://brushesandbayonets.blogspot.lt/2016/07/the-post-human-republic-makes-entrance.html

>>54035176
Now those are some damn nice paint jobs!

The tron PHR was classic. What a great scheme!

The infantry bases were amazing.

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>>54035430
>The infantry bases were amazing.
Indeed. The tutorial for them http://brushesandbayonets.blogspot.lt/2016/10/dropzone-commander-creating-bases-and.html

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>>54035534

>>54035955
one day I'll be that skilled, one day...

>>54035534
They are astounding.

Hey guys. I was just wondering if you could all have a look at my 1500 point fleet? I'm not sure on the pathfinder group, to be honest.

Fleet - 1475pts
PHR - 10 launch assets

SR16 Flag battlegroup (322pts)
1 x Calypso - 37pts - L
1 x Minos - 285pts - S
+ Director (80pts, 4AV)

SR21 Vanguard battlegroup (477pts)
1 x Priam - 210pts - H
2 x Ikarus - 230pts - M
1 x Calypso - 37pts - L

SR7 Line battlegroup (208pts)
2 x Medea - 78pts - L
1 x Orpheus - 130pts - M

SR7 Line battlegroup (208pts)
2 x Medea - 78pts - L
1 x Orpheus - 130pts - M

SR8 Pathfinder battlegroup (240pts)
3 x Echo - 90pts - L
3 x Echo - 90pts - L
2 x Echo - 60pts - L
------------- dflist.com -------------

>>54032181
I just bought one from here a couple days ago:
http://loworbitmats.weebly.com/

We'll see in a week or so when I get it how it is. There were positive comments on the Facebook Dropfleet group about them, so for only $25 I'm sure it'll be a worthwhile upgrade from the paper mats in the starter box.

Three days remain

http://www.strawpoll.me/13243521
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243478
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243491
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243500
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243515

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>>54039562
>UCM neck-and-neck for 2nd
Wait your turn, normies

>>54040585
>not wanting to see what Toulon-chan looks like

>>54041438
Nice!

>>54040621

I am more partial to fiesta Taipei chan

>>54041438
Damn nice job on that scheme!

>>54040621
Pssh. Who votes for ships that actually get used on the table? It's all about the Tokyo.

>>54037967
Split up corvettes. Otherwise they have to swarm.

>>54041438
Still not sure how those front guns are supposed to aim at different targets. Shaltari fuckery, I suppose.

>>54044173
HIGH
SPEED
TRAVERSING

>>54044153
Outlier special rule

>>54044330
Doesn't matter; all ships of the same type in a BG form a single group; outlier still has to maintain group coherency.

>>54041438
I'm not sure I like the breakaway from the Shaltari tripod aesthetic (since Scourge are mostly 4-legged and PHR are mostly 2-legged to differentiate the faction's walkers), and the fact that the gauss cannons blinker the pilot's sensor clusters really bothers me.
Chalk this one up to upstart tribes who cannot into practical engineering, I guess.

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>>54041438

Sup man, didn't know you posted on tg

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>>54046788
I'm not the guy who made it, I just use nice looking pictures from the web to bump thread.

>>54047171
and you're doing god's work man.

>>54051906
God damn, I assume those aren't yours anon? I really wanna know how they were painted!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j-UeJdGzjo

Our Lord and Saviour is at it again. Painted battlecruisers up close and personal.

(Except the Shaltari, suck it hedgehogs)

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>>54052045
http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10054&sid=e4cfbab3b00b9c1243b5ea0a94f8db63&start=12#wrapper

>>54052523
Nice! Those UCM ones look great!

Bump. I don't even know what this game is. I bet it has big fat plastic "miniatures" that you push around. Can't you just make that shit with Legos or something?

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>>54052238
Hot damn, those engines on the Akuma make me hard
I'm in the middle of selling my KS Scourge fleet, now I'm probably going to turn around and buy a new one next month

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http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8550

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Once again, I must harness the power of Based Baselines to bump this thread through the night.

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>>54056258

We probably ought too, for space stations at least. They're a real bottleneck.

I'm still waiting on muh Idris Elba X-COM team.

>>54059608

Force Recon and some Occupation Veterans and you're there.

>>54059664

Yea, but you need that sweet fucking sky ranger!

So is there no way to get another set of the debris field cutouts than from a starter box? I'm thinking I might copy them and glue the copies onto thin cardboard since that's something I can do with office supplies at work, but I'd rather just have the real thing for consistency's sake.

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Bump

Battlecruisers and Advanced Sectors are up for preorder on the store.

Does anyone know when they are shipping out the cardstock map tiles from the kickstarter it's been a while? The starter set map is getting old.

>>54065198

Soon™. If you send them an email, they'll tell you "We're working on it, I've added you to the mailing list for when we're done".

Well, shouldn't everyone we on the mailing list for when it's done, because everyone is getting some shit from the kickstarter? I like Hawk, prior to the KS they always did right by me, but jeez, keep us in the loop.

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Bump

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Pmub! Pmub!

>...sigh. Good effort, guys.

>>54064019
Holy shit, the advanced sectors are up too?! Will they come with new rules or what?

>>54064019
Wow they look way better than the kickstarter ones.

Any pictures of the Perth anywhere?

>>54069190
Nvm, found it

>>53994940
Image reminds me of Starship Troopers.

Is there any dropfleet errata more up to date than January?

>>54069880
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0159/4298/files/Dropfleet_FAQ_s_and_errata_1.1.pdf?10209811200625327151
is the only one I've been able to find.

>>54069880

May. Found through the tournament section on their website. Not intuitive, I know.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0159/4298/files/Dropfleet_Official_Rules_Update_-_May_2017.pdf?7052435401325044593

>>54070600
>>54072284

You need both, though. May doesn't include January changes.

>>54064019

It says the advanced sectors are website only :(

>>54028289
>>54028450
>A2 has delicious fuck-off rockets and a handy flamethrower, but is still slow as molasses
>takes the same slot as a speedy Apollo or Helios group
Kind of hard to justify these guys in a smaller list.

>>54074505
Ugh I know I'm going to suck it up and pay twice their cost thanks to shipping just to get them, there's no way I can cope with a table with half resin pieces and half paper tokens.

>>54076611
Just spend over £100 anon, there, sorted.

>>54068791
The rules are already in the book you knob

>>54075046
I said they were good, not that they were bullshit. It's kind of implied that nothing can compete with the do-everything skimmer and the cheap tanky gunship.

Actually, I wonder how Apollos would deal with a MF value of 6". Might make their positioning need more thought put into it.

>>54064019
>the new bundles on the website
I'm kinda disappointed the scourge bundle doesn't have multiple sets of corvettes. still a good deal aside from that though!

>>54064019
>those bundles
>literally 40 pounds worth of free shit

>>54081575
That is a great bundle! I wish I didn't already have so many ships.

>>54085463
And what I mean by that, is I could use some more, but not that many more lol.

VOTING ENDS AT MIDNIGHT CST

http://www.strawpoll.me/13243521
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243478
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243491
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243500
http://www.strawpoll.me/13243515

Rate this list

--------------------------------------
Grand Fleet - 2498pts
PHR - 14 launch assets

SR17 Flag battlegroup (359pts)
1 x Minos - 285pts - S
+ Grand Director (140pts, 6AV)
2 x Calypso - 74pts - L

SR23 Vanguard battlegroup (493pts)
1 x Agamemnon - 195pts - H
2 x Theseus - 178pts - M
3 x Europa - 120pts - L

SR20 Vanguard battlegroup (360pts)
1 x Bellerophon - 180pts - H
1 x Bellerophon - 180pts - H

SR15 Line battlegroup (357pts)
1 x Ganymede - 135pts - M
1 x Orion - 107pts - M
1 x Ikarus - 115pts - M

SR15 Line battlegroup (357pts)
1 x Ganymede - 135pts - M
1 x Orion - 107pts - M
1 x Ikarus - 115pts - M

SR7 Pathfinder battlegroup (246pts)
2 x Medea - 78pts - L
3 x Echo - 90pts - L
2 x Medea - 78pts - L

SR7 Pathfinder battlegroup (246pts)
2 x Medea - 78pts - L
3 x Echo - 90pts - L
2 x Medea - 78pts - L

>>54086085
>2500pts

Are you spending your weekend playing DFC?

>>54086114
It's just all day if both players know the rules fairly well

>>54086114
Nah, that'd be 3000 points

>>54086150

Minos over Herc?

>>54088243
I like torpedoes.

They're the same cost though, so it's a trivial switch.

>>54088648
Did they fix torps? Or are they still weak?

>>54088858
Shake roll is now 5+

>>54065229
They probably give the same response to everyone wondering where the maps are. Remember, they were supposed to be wave 1 releases, shortly after the starter boxes.

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Damn, it's actually a lot more vertical than I thought.

>>54095706
I like that the main engines form a straight line. Really makes it look like a ship with 10" thrust.
But aside from looking speedier, I'm still not sure I like it more than the burly simplicity of the Leonidas hull.

>>54095746
I like how both the Scourge and PHR battlecruisers make use of elements from their respective battleships.

The Scourge use the same fins as the space trilobite does.

The PHR use the same Boeing 747 wings (albeit just one), as well as the same little front wings.
Also, the same upper fins as the KS exclusive BC.

>>54092891
Holy shit, where are you amazing painters all coming from?

>>54088858
They're still not great. The launch buff helped but torpedoes themselves haven't been touched.

Minos is good despite torpedoes though, it's got nice close action and is a whole lot more likely to use its broadsides than a Herc.

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>>54085933
BASILISK-CHAN TIME, BOYS

>>54098081
I'm torn on this. On the one hand the oculus phalanxes on that thing make it ugly as sin imo. On the other hand that huge wizard hat would be amazing on a shipgirl.

>>54098150
>Ugly as sin
I disagree; the overall shape is great, it's just the bulbous oculus pods that ruin it.

>>54098599
Eh, I much prefer the manticore's thin front end, makes it look like a blade. The way those bits stick out the side doesn't really fit the hat. If they went more into making them look like mandibles or something it would probably be better.

The big pods are by far the worst offender though. I wouldn't mind it if it wasn't for those.

>>54098150
Its a huge wizard hat on an older shipgirl that was a testbed for her younger sisters to fly safely. I think there's plenty of potential in a design based on the basilisk and while I would have preferred another ship I'll take scourge getting a design done for them. Hell, the first two shipgirls were heavy cruisers and battlecruisers. feels only right our first round maintains the theme.

>>54098081
Welp...I wonder if the PHR will be given the same treatment eventually. Also, are tank girls a thing?

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>>54099509

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>>54098900
>older shipgirl that was a testbed for her younger sisters to fly safely
That could work for the Scipio and possibly the Atlantis, but this is the Scourge fleet we're talking about here. Flying safely means taking time away from calibrating those eyelaser batteries.

>>54098081

My choice lost, but as long as we get more ship girls I will be happy.

>>54099675
I meant other than that one.

>>54101501
Don't get greedy abandonist. Hedgehogs haven't got their shipgirl yet.

>>54101578
I don't need to, I can commission them myself!

>>54101578

You let us down, Voidgate.

>just like we all knew you would

>>54101608
Lets be real, do we really need sexy hedgehogs?

You want this game to become furry central?

>>54101719
Shaltari aren't furry. They're just greys covered in spikes.

>>54101787

I thought furry was all animals?

Regardless I am just kidding around, the lets be real was for silliness.

The more ship girls the better.

>>54101949
A good rule of thumb for furries is "if it's got a snout, it's out". Shaltari don't even have a nose, and they're not really based on an animal either. They're just aliens.

Sexualising those lizard people might be more furry (or scalie or whatever), but even then they don't have have much of a human torso going on so it might be a different thing. I dunno, I'm no expert, but furries tend to be pretty specific.

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Don't waste money on a shipgirl. Pay for a shipscourge. Hot blobs in bikinis and plasma cannons.

>>54101949
>>54102075
I would say that furry is a more specific subset of xenophilia

Man, Panthers are some fucked up shit. There's a bunch of ways they could have made an infinite range AA unit fit in and the Panther isn't any of them. I expected maybe something narrow arc with MF0 to come along as nasty area denial, but not something that locks down the whole board and can reliably snipe anything short of a Poseidon.

It's even worse with my own Shaltari because I don't want to use that horseshit but at the same time it's the non-E6 AA I've been waiting for.

>>54104713

Yea they are fucking bullshit and need to be nerfed hard.

>>54107818
hmm, I might end up getting a commission for the frigates and a few cruisers, perhaps starting with that one...

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GENOCIDE TRILOBITE
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How do I use ghost tints, I want to have cool space squids too

>>54109389
I feel an urge to go full otaku and try to pencil out actual distinct character designs and personalities, but I'm not great at coordinating my headcanon with other people's ideas when it comes to waifus, and that also feels like a subconscious escape from dealing with player recruitment IRL.
>tfw too lazy to learn how to drawfag

>>54109513
Well I'll probably just be telling mothman to just draw them how they think they should look.

>>54109414
I am assuming that isn't yours.

Essentially, you use them like a wash. Best applied with an airbrush.

You prime your stuff, then paint it silver color. Then you apply the tints and they turn it into that colored metalic you see. Then hit it with standard wash to darken as needed.

>>54110082
Pollguy here; same pretty much, but I'll be contacting him tomorrow.

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This thread needs more heroes of the reconquest.

>>54111856
I never gave that armor a look before. What the fuck is up with that helmet? Don't you want smooth curves to encourage deflection on armor like a helmet, since the metal is so thin? Or have I completely misunderstood how engineers have approached personal armor protection?

>>54113036
I mean, they spent several centuries planning to fight an opponent that used bottled plasma as their primary firearm. Could be that it's built to withstand heat... though no helmet is going to save you from the direct impact of a miniature sun.

>>54113036
Not sure about the front bit, but the flat top is probably for storage purposes. UCM is all about logistics, and a design that can be efficiently stacked to fit 10 more in a box means more than a very occasional avoidable death. Not like a plasma rifle or shard cannon is going to give half a fuck about your well designed helmet anyway, plasma doesn't deflect and the shard guns we've seen would rip off a chunk of your head even if they deflected.

>>54113036
UCM strikes a fine balance between "cheapest and most efficient manufacturing possible" and "not making their gear too cheap because they only have a few billion soldiers to throw at the Scourge, not a few dozen billion"

>>54110909
You going to contact him through Tumblr or DeviantArt?

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>>54109414

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought this when they saw it.

>>54113036
It's to reduce radar return

>>54116706
I hope you're not serious

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>>54116742

>>54113036
The artist thought it looked cool.

>>54116405
I like the bone not sure how I feel about it matched with the blue.

>>54117667

I was going for a Lobster shell look. To be honest, some my other Scourge stuff looks better because those are just Green basecoat with successive layers of Blue or Purple wash added and it's kind of hard to go wrong with that technique.

Of course the sector that takes the longest to paint has to be the one there's the most of in the pack.

The sectors really do add a lot visually, at least. The only complaint I have is for clash/battle sized games, it seems you're short one commercial sector on scenario 1.

>>54117667
Post it brother!

>>54119318


Shit I replayed to the wrong one, post the rest of that scourge.

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>>54123615
Also, damn the Scourge are stylin. Who does their hair?

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Added a white prow because I felt like I was missing something, and I'm not sure if I hate it or not

>>54125378

Add in more white panels.

They bring the model together.

>>54125528
I'm concerned the white might be TOO white if you get me

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>>54125566
You just gotta stay symmetrical and focus on key stops around the model.

>>54128519
Where is the dude on the bottom let from?

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>>54128736

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>>54128844

Started watching falling skies and now want a resistance army

Is the starter a decent deal and all stuff I'll use?

>>54132245
The two player starter is almost nothing you'll use model-wise. The resistance starter is a solid pick.

Since you're a resistance player, Reconquest: Phase 1 is gonna be needed too, as the rules for Resistance aren't in the main rulebook.

Look into FFOR or SCOLDZAP for building lists.

>>54132245
Resistance starter is solid. Only thing in it that isn't great are the Hannibals, and even then they're not terrible and have such nice models I find myself using them anyway.

>>54132312
>Since you're a resistance player, Reconquest: Phase 1 is gonna be needed too, as the rules for Resistance aren't in the main rulebook
FFOR has up-to-date stats for all units. Make a list with the unit you want to see included and then print preview.
Only thing you'd need the book for is the new rules like barrage, but even those are pretty easy to find out online.

>>54129151
you've got a fair point Anon, but don't tell anyone with lawyers!

>>54134138
The alien controller theme has been used may times before. There one in STNG as well as countless movies.

I had to google the Yeerk, but it doesn't really fit any better than most.

>>54138144
I like that pallid base color. Where did you find this photo?

>>54136187
Christ anon is that yours or did you find it? It looks beautiful!

>>54138144
>>54116405

Is there both you models?

The little guys look great!

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>>54138761
>>54138809
>>54138926
It's not mine but from http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9322&sid=a5df40884f0f610d226b39a364b71fad&start=1

Has anyone purchased an orbital map from "iansg" on eBay? They look like a decent deal at $35, but I'm also ready to save for a mousepad-material mat if their vinyl material is unimpressive.

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My shades of red are all over the place, but at least I'm getting somewhere.

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>>54126792
Pls acknowledge my changes senpai

>>54141401
See, more it's looking better.

>>54141401
Looking good, thin the white some more though and put more thinned coats on. That will get your a smoother coat.

>>54142068
The whites pretty thin anyway, it's my test ship so at the moment has been repainted about 16 times, a cross section of that New Orleans would look like a MOAB hitting a gay pride festival

>>54141401
Nice, though I think painting the turret (not the guns but the turret itself) white would look better, the dark metal and dark grey hull blends in too much, making the center of the ship look like a dark blob a bit, lating the turret a different color would make details stand out better.
>>54142258
The front sections look great, but the ones in the back look a little bit uneven/too thick.

So now that we got battleruisers for dropfleet what's next for dropzone?

>>54144914
For models? Phase 2 special commanders iirc. There's been previews at shows for some of them, but I don't think we've seen the hog Kinslayer's gunship or Immortan Joe's jaeger yet.

>>54113036
>deflect bullets
>the enemy == ackackack
come now

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>>54145155

>>54145246
>when the Shaltari go full DAKKA harder than even the PHR or Resistance

>>54145206
I mean they do have shard cannons, which are basically conventional bullet guns. Problem is that they're all at least E5, so any helmet is going to all of jackshit against them.

>>54143956

These guy of look like dudes flashing their junk.

What does the bloodthirsty rule of aged ones do?

>>54148253
If they're occupying a building and enemy infantry shows up then they must be chosen to join the CQB fight. It's in page 34 of the rulebook where CQB is explained.

Don't use Aged Ones though, they're fucking terrible. You're paying 30 points to actively make a unit worse.

>>54148253
If they are garrisoned in a building when hostile infantry enter and initiate CQB, all Bloodthirsty units have to engage them and thus never get the option to retreat from the building instead.

>>54148367
God that is awful.

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>>54148367
>Don't use Aged Ones though, they're fucking terrible. You're paying 30 points to actively make a unit worse.

That's the weird thing. You'd think the trade off between plasma shots and CQB would be more 1-1 value-wise.

Although that could be me over-valuing combined plasma hits.

>>54151705
I'd personally say you aren't overvaluing plasma. Any appeal the aged ones had was lost with the destroyers release. Now aged ones are just shit with no real redeeming qualities.

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>>54151658
The reconquest never dies, anon.

>>54151705
Nah, the plasma is great. SA is situational but valuable, and the E11 shots are crazy good. It's more like Hawk overvalued having 1 extra CQB. Aged Ones still struggle to keep up with Braves or Immortals and get crushed by mid level CQB like Praetorian Snipers or Valkyries. Bloodthirsty and good fortitude aren't something you really want in a unit that can't fight for shit. The accuracy penalty is just the final nail in the coffin.

If they were cheaper and came with a dodge value maybe they'd be better, but even then Destroyers exist and Razorworms have a convenient deployment option now, so there isn't much of a point.

Been gone for a long time.
Still no word on Faction X for DfC and how it's going to be Resistance in space?

>>54160753
Gonna be out in the first DFC expansion, which is coming out after DZC phase 3.

No space resistance for you. Bury your dreams fucker

>>54160753
Turns out it was Pungari all along.

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>>54161298
N E V E R

>>54161359

Some how the were the big bad all along lol

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Was lowering Hazard Suit railgun damage really necessary? They were essentially longer ranged Warriors before with E11 and that was really useful, at E10 I'm finding them kind of underwhelming. They definitely don't seem worth giving up a turn of objective searching.

>>54165754

They were OP in tournaments - no one took legionnaires since they were an auto take

>>54167849

Drive on reapers work?

>>54168101
>>54167849

Also, sweet.

>>54167849
>Shaltari false flag

>>54167849
Damn anon, is that yours? How'd you paint them?

>>54170488

Lets see another shot of the screamer.

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>>54171765
It's not mine, it's from http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8439
>>54170488
>OOGA BOOGA!

Has there been any mention of proper ground asset models in the future? It's jarring to have nice resin/plastic for everything else and then out comes paper tokens for your troops.

I've been thinking of making some myself out of Dropzone models on bases with a slot for a die, (using the scout units for armor due to their smaller size and more models/$) but that's hardly the cheapest method.

>>54175592
Plastic ground asset tokens were a pledge option on the Kickstarter but they're presumably stuck in development hell along with the 4'x4' orbital maps and other "delayed wave" stuff.
I hope Hawk announces something about that stuff sooner rather than later, it's been a pain trying to discuss DFC (or DZC) on social media, because seeing the words "Hawk Wargames" still drives certain people into a butthurt frenzy.

>>54175717
(((certain people)))

>>54166113
Not really a choice there since Hazards are exotics. The price increase was entirely justified, but I'm not sure they needed the damage nerf too. They still do the thing that made them effectively replace Legionnaires (look for objectives without being crushed by rocks) but now that's all they do.

And it's not like anybody takes Legionnaires unless they really need cheap budget dudes in Ravens anyway. Flak and mortar teams are just better.

>>54175717
I didn't see plastic ground assets? I only saw plastic launch assets

>>54177061
Acrylic tokens is what was offered.

>>54168101
hell yeah drive on reapers work. They're a good budget play.

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Has Dave ever mentioned licensing out the DC setting for some books? I like what he has in the rulebooks, but I want more.

>>54179246
Don't think so. DZC is his baby and I'm not sure he'd have the time to proofread a whole book to make sure it fits the lore.

>>54179246
Pretty much what >>54179759 said.

D*C is Dave's autismbaby, and considering how he's the primar rules-writer, loremaster, and modeler, do you really think he'd outsourcing the IP for a not!blacklibrary?

While I too would love reading a saga of some schmuck legionnaire on Eden Prime, or PHR/Shaltari subterfuge shenanigans, I feel like the system can't really afford anything more than short stories or excerpts.

>>54179246
I've been debating writing a story myself. Three pronged UCM: a commander with his Phoenix, a tank crew in a Broadsword and then the last character would be the leader of the a fighter wing(probably Archangels). All their stories would intertwine during this big battle while giving different perapectives

>>54180091
Might as well add (or replace) in someone up in orbit.

>>54180091
Do we even know how many people fit in a Broadsword? There's only one hatch, but there's enough room for 2 people and it's a pretty huge tank.
We definitely don't know the crew numbers of a Phoenix, but I'd assume around half a dozen.

>>54180636
Most UCM vehicles are single-man-crew because of their insane population-to-military-size problems. I know Sabre-size and down are, but I'm not certain above that.

>>54180730
Sabre, Longbow, Wolverine, Gladius and I think Condor/Raven hull aircraft are single-man, Albatrosses are 2 man (there's a picture of the cockpit interior). Seraphim are probably 2 man since they have the twin cockpits.

Bump, survive thread!

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Where are the launch bays on the Johannesburg

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>>54184134
here's one

>>54184134
Scattered around the bottom bit. There's the one the other anon pointed out and 3 more doors along the side. They're not strangely open like the Seattle's.

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>>54184162
I think the red circle is their return bays.

>>54184259
Technically, the Seattle's doors aren't open; there's a closed door in the back of the bays, if you look closely.

I think it's just a rapid launch bay to quickly get squadrons out.

>>54184468
save it!

>>54187570
/tg/: we deliver to page 9 in 90 minutes or it's free

>>54184468

Holy shit at that Mobile Oppression Palace!

>>54180372
I debated doing a whole nother story about space stuff.

>>54180636
Looking at how big it is I'd imagine maybe 3? Something I could always ask on the FB page.

The Phoenix certainly would have a good sized crew.

>Hawk posts a breakdown of faction popularity and tournament placement statistics, asks for feedback on local metas
>first reply is "how about a breakdown of when you're going to give me all my money back for my Kickstarter stuff you delayed???"
Facebook was a mistake.

>>54192358
Normies* were a mistake

>tfw love every aspect of all the battlecruisers
>except the Perth's second pair of 4200's
Why they didn't remain in a dorsal position is beyond me; I simply can't understand why Dave would suddenly go against one of the UCM's established design motifs, especially when those turrets could have easily been placed on slightly extended nacelles, rather than being on the ventral surface.

>>54192358
Well yeah. That's always been the case. It's almost as cancerous as our own Indonesian finger painting forum.

Balance still needs some tweaking though. I can fucking tell what those top tourney winning lists are. The Scourge one is double Basilisk, maybe single Basilisk if you really want to shake things up. PHR spammed troopships. Shaltari is a bit more up in the air now that Diamonds aren't quite the autoinclude they used to be, but Voidgate spam is how that faction operates.

>>54194150
>high recoil gun being that off-center on an aircraft dedicated to highly focused fire
I'm not too sure about this senpai.

>>54194150
What models are those? The aircraft look like mosified Ravens.

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>>54194564
Seems like it. It's from https://verlag-martin-ellermeier.de/showcase-die-vanadian-advance-legion/ and I don't understand German.

>>54194987
The highlights are excellent; almost makes the metal look like carved stone.

>>54194987
>no seam down the middle
What is this witchcraft?

>>54197533
Might've used one of the plastic starter set bears.

>>54194560

It works in mother russia.

>>54197553
>>54195210

It's definitely the resin one, the plastic bear only has one headlamp, whereas the resin one has two

>>54200049
Damn that's a beautiful paint job anon, is it yours?

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Finished my paint scheme. Pretty happy with it even if it is sloppy. Now to get the ucm starter painted and start doing demos.

>>54202269
If you want to make the eyes look more biological, put a white dot in the corner of each eye and put a heavy layer if gloss on their

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>>54204265
That's a pretty damn smart way if building a Corvette! I how'd you/they do it?

>>54204861

That's a Standard Cruiser mandible, a Light Cruiser mandible, a double-laser prow mount, and a medium calibre turret prow mount.

Basilisk nerf when

>>54208957
desu The Scourge BC's should have the Phalanx as their central weapon, with arrays as their side weapons.

>>54209031
That might help but the problem goes deeper. Akumalisk is so ridiculously well optimised for full cloak that the rule itself needs to be changed. Switching up the weapons just means instead of doing 8 average damage every turn with no consequences it'll do 7.

If only it just had a couple of furnace cannons or something instead. It wouldn't be anywhere near as op since narrow arcs mean you can't just spam weapons free every single turn like you can with oculus guns. Hawk evidently understood how to make an overpowered ability balanced with the Manticore, since it has to get close and invalidate its cloak to unleash its firepower, but they apparently chose not to do it with the other BC for some reason.

How are Shaltari battlecruisers? The other faction's BCs are pretty clear on value depending on their specializations, but the Ruby is just an extra-heavy gun cruiser at a premium and the Sapphire is a multi-utility weirdo.

>>54212975
Ruby is pretty solid. The double lances are an excellent single profile weapon for picking off damage ships or frigates and having a reasonably high chance of nicking them.
The disintegrator batteries are just icing on the cake; Solid firepower in any arc but the rear if you just can't get the lances lined up, and excellent weapons free, even if you can't get the lances lined up.
Nothing special about it, it's just a solid, efficient ship.

Sapphire is just weird, but useful weird. The Shaltari CAW/Bombardment is decent at both, and the gravity coils might be okay for fucking with stuff like Saint Petes and other beam heavy ships.
Personally, I'd always take a Jet or a Turquoise instead; especially the former, since it doesn't need weapons free to put out all of its non-bombardment firepower.

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>bump limit, page 5
>won't be awake to make new bread
Secondary, tertiary, and auxiliary OP(s), identify yourselves and take charge.

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>>54213256
Okey dokey.

In other news, Prowlers are still adorable and we still don't have a plush toy to snuggle. This needs to be rectified.

Which fleet is more noob friendly? PHR or Scourge?

>>54214493
>>54214493
>>54214493

My ancient promise is fulfilled fuckers.

>>54213709
I'd say PHR. Broadsides require smart positioning but you're tough so fucking up is harder for your opponent to punish. Scourge need to know when to be sneaky and when to charge, and if they get it wrong they tend to eat shit.