/5eg/ Fifth Edition General: Rakshasa Edition

FIRST FOR PALADIN SUPREMACY

FIRST FOR... Aw.

Barbarian - /fit/
Wizards - /lit/
Paladins - /pol/
Warlock - /x/
Bard - /d/
Druid - /an/
Ranger - /out/
Sorcerer - ???
Rogue - ???
Fighter - ???

>>53989018
Not much when the high wisdom ranger just see though them.

>>53989062
>play illusionist
>some nigger with a decent wisdom sees through most of your magical illusions

3e apologisms ruined the game.

>>53989105
Most illusions take them using an action and making an INT check to see through m8.

>>53989018
too much sceming, little to no disguise trickery. I make my villains robust and forthcoming about what they plan to do, they put years of work into their plans and often see them come to fruition before my PCs even start the campaign. It is just my players, or my ability to push for importance, but when I have a "ticking timebomb" more often then not my players don't take it as seriously as they should. but when theyre thrust into a world where they can't immediately get what they want, they take action. I sprinkle in their desires throughout the campaign, but whoever wants whatever it is they want at the time the most, that's what the BBEG is keeping from them. so the always have a reason to keep fighting until the end.

>>53989105
>he's also cracking these shitty 'wise' jokes too all the time
>a lifetime of study to get told by some cunt who's shtick is that "I'm so good at looking"

Any advice for how to make my games more orderly? everyone just sort of talks over each other

>>53989058
Fighter- /k/

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>>53989058
>Paladins - /pol/

>>53989114
Wouldn't they also need a REASON to think there was an illusion? You can't go around saying "ok I want to check if this break is an illusion"

>>53989058
Druid - /lgbt/

>>53989058
Rogue - /r/
Sorcerer - /a/

>>53989165
bread*

>>53989058
Sorcerer - /d/
Bard - /s4s/
Druid - /out/
Fighter - /ck/
Paladin - /cgl/
Ranger - /a/
Barbarian - /ck/
Rogue - /jp/
Warlock - /tg/
Wizard - /pol/

How do people find CoS? Some seem to dislike the changes to canon and changes to Strahd's motivation in becoming a vampire.
A major dislike seems to be the entities in the Amber Temple.

>>53989165
Depends on the situation, knowledge about you and etc. One could even say their action to detect it is them trying to attack or get past it, before realising that something isn't quite right.

You're not wrong though, any DM who has Goblins checking if the pit trap in front of them is fake is playing it a bit retarded.

>>53989171
Anyone not playing their Druid with rainbows and bestiality is doing it wrong.

>>53989199
It's the best official 5e adventure out right now. I don't care about any changes to canon--Strahd is presented well, and the Amber Temple and its dark vestiges are cool as fuck.

>>53989058
Barbarian - /fit/
Wizards - /sci/
Paladins - /pol/
Warlock - /x/
Bard - /mu/
Druid - /d/ (furfaggotry)
Ranger - /out/
Fighter - /k/
Sorcerer - /diy/ (don't need no stinking spellbook)
Rogue - /r/

>>53989058
Rogue - /i/ because no one's ever seen them

>>53989199
Eh, it's good but I'm really not a fan of the genre.

OotA>PotA=CoS>>>SKT>>>>>>>>>>>>HotDQ/RoT

>>53989199
Im currently playing in CoS while DMing SKT. They both are pretty good, CoS has a nice 2spooky kind of feel to it, while SKT feels like a much more high fantasy hero adventure.

>>53989105
>Favored enemy is humaniod
>With in a 5 mile radius of the ranger
>>53989165
Not really, it a gut feeling.
>>53989133
But that not all. He can look into your soul.

>>53989018

So I'm thinking of something new now that celestial pact and favored soul are things. What do you guys think about paladin 6 / warlock 3 / sorcerer X? Viable? Any good?

Accidentally left this in the last thread. What's the best race for a swarthy galley cook Tempest cleric in a nautical-themed adventure?

Hill Dwarf seems to have the best mechanical benefits.
Variant Human lets me take Gourmand for the literal and metaphorical flavor.
Half-Orc lets me wreck people with my big stormy warhammer.
I feel like a nautical campaign could always use at least one Triton.

>>53989136
I like to break the tradition of having the GM alone at the far end of table.
Rather having him at the wide side opposity two players and flaked by the others means better eye GM/Player contact and less player/facing player.

It works way better for us at least though at cost of some GM exclusive table space

I've played pretty much every class now that I don't care what I play. Someone give me an interesting character to play. Race/Class can be part of it too if its needed to fit the character.

>>53989199
>"Well I just want to extend a big "thank you" to Chris Perkins for putting me off yet another D&D product by ruining things and adding his goofy "stench" to things.
>I'm glad I read this thread before I went out and wasted my money. This was actually something I looked forward to." -Corpsetaker.

>>53989316
Lizardman for swim speed and wide definition of edible

>>53989307
And he learned it all by looking for berries really really hard

>>53989321
A Duergar Primeval Guardian.

You can combo tree-form and natural Enlarge spell to turn huge sized.

>>53989316
Anything would work really. Just pick the race that is least likely to be a cook, which would be lizardfolk I guess.

>>53989022
>Personally, I'd have either gotten incriminating evidence, or I've gotten her to confess, or I'd have manhandled her out of the way and checked for myself, before going on about it.

What did they do? If they just charged in and smited, that's more of a murderhobo problem than just a metagame problem - the guess was fine, the problem was then stabbing someone to death over a hunch rather than looking for proof. But that's the key word: PROOF that your guess was right, rather than wandering aimlessly until a clue is handed to you that means you're now allowed to make the guess that you'd already made but weren't allowed to say. I'd have wanted them to look for evidence or otherwise force her to reveal herself, too, but it would be futile to try to force them to investigate while pretending not to even know what their hunch was.

It's also a good idea generally to train your players into letting you know their intents and expectations so you can tailor the game with them, rather than hiding their true beliefs behind a veil of faux "in character" excuses ("It's not that I think she's a Hag trying to drug us, because I'm not allowed to know Hags exist yet, I'm just not hungry right now!") in order to evade mind control.

>>53989022
Well, true

If it's a case where the players aren't playing to character and justifying things, then sure
But you shouldn't have to not do things because of your stats.

>>53989307
>it a gut feeling.
And gut feelings aaaaare...

WIS

>>53989321
Are barbarian and druid worth multiclassing into?
I want to be a raging bear man.

>>53989374
Low everything limits you... Save for INT.

How can that be?

That's waving away the whole concept of a stat.

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>>53989357
Don't eat them without coal, they are poisonous.

>>53989411
If you want to buff int, buff it in any other way.

>>53989411
Low everything limits what you can SUCCEED at doing. You can't lift a boulder with 6 STR, but you're certainly allowed to try to lift it. Nothing limits what you can attempt to do; the player's control of his character is inviolate.

>>53989411
>can't investigate for hidden doors, important items
>can't arcana check on magical traps and cursed items
Int is important, it's just DMs don't utilize it.

>>53989321
Hedonistic high elf swashbuckler who's just going through elf adolescence and plans on going back to his family in a couple of decades when he's had enough of the wild life. Noble background with the Knight variant, have your retainers be very sick of your shit

I'm pretty sure I just came up with a really obnoxious backstory but it could be fun if you RP it well.

>>53989385
It could work, but it's delaying your shape shifting by 1-3 levels

Is the Drow Magic feat worth it on a Sorcerer? Seems like a cool racial feat.

Is there any way to make an unarmed barbarian viable?

>>53989481
Not without homebrew. You'd be stuck with 1d4 punches your whole career

>>53989497
Oh, and the 1d4 punches are if you pick tavern brawler, otherwise it's always 1 damage

>>53989481
Homebrew gauntlet to cover for >>53989497.

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>>53989018
[spoilers]the game[/spoiler]

>>53989481
Dragonborn Battlerager. Take the racial feat for 1d4 claws and the racial feat for flying. Basically you skulldrop niggers as a dragon.

Other option's to be a Minotaur or refluff Maces as gauntlets.

What are the limitations of Creation? Can I create a lion of diamonds or It has to be a real object?

>>53989461
The thing is that the only people who are going to be meaningfully adept at INT related skills are wizards and those that took Expertise.

Eating a relative -2 there for skills it's all well and good when it can be put to better use in stats that are used much more often, like in every single combat turn.

Is there anyway to make unarmed ok outside of monk? The only thing I can think of is having the DM give you something like knuckledusters, just so you can cast booming blade on your fist

>>53989630
Play as Lizardfolk
nomnomnom

>>53989461
>>53989563
Knowing that there's an enemy, that you're being lied to, or that there's a trap, is more important than what is the enemy, who is lying to you and what is the trap.

Rolled 14, 13, 12, 12, 12, 11 for my character stats. Considering either a moon druid or chainlock. Party will have a life cleric, transmutation wizard, and open palm monk. Any thoughts?

I have a challenge for you /5eg/ take any of these races
https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Coyouin_(5e_Race)
or any of these classes
https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/5e_Classes
and make them NOT horse shit.

>>53989630
Just refluff a weapon

But really, unarmed isn't supposed to be strong.

>>53989630
Nope. Even monks shouldn't be relying purely on unarmed for most of their career, as their damage is shit until 11th level. It's better to use a weapon. The unarmed strike is there for an extra d6 as a bonus action and class features

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>>53989658
>Rolling
>For
>Stats

>>53989718
DM mandated it. I wanted to use standard array.

>>53989687
I don't mean strong, just doing a bit less damage but you aren't completely useless. Like how a rogue can use a blowgun and still be useful even though it isn't the most optimal weapon

>>53989718
When do you get banned?

WotC announces that rainbow dragons are lore friendly and official. Also black dragons were oppressed and white dragons are actually evil.

How do you react?

>>53989764
Was this the best shitpost you could think of?

>>53989764
The same way I do to most of the shit Wizards puts out. By completely disregarding it.

>>53989764
>WotC announces that rainbow dragons are lore friendly and official
You mean Faerie Dragon which are cool?

>white dragons are actually evil
They always have been.

>>53989726
Get two shortswords.
Nerf them to 1d4 instead.
Give them a special name, 'fists'.
Done.
Or use the pugilist class, even if I find it a bit lacking.

>>53989725
Moon druid works no matter what stats you have, though your stats aren't entirely fucked, though any single-stat class could work I suppose. Though only +2 wis you can get is variant human if I recall right.

If you want to be powerful, I'd go mo on druid.

Otherwise, bard or warlock should be fine. Even paladin might be fine, honestly, since paladins have at least a bit of use for every stat except int.
.. But yes, bard or warlock I'd say but moon druid works too.

>>53989734
When you get good taste.

>>53989807
>good taste
>is a weeb

Aheh

AHEHEH

>>53989658
Firbolg Moon Druid.

>>53989821
Yeah fuck weebs am I right that's why you should avoid weeb sites like 4chan and post on reddit.

>>53989835
4chan isn't a weeb site

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>>53989835
>>53989821

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>>53989843

>>53989855
>>53989861
>>53989873
You can stop samefagging now.

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>>53989887
You can leave this site now.

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>tfw I just want to experience a long running campaign where everyone, players and DM cooperate and don't try to fuck eachother over

>>53989873
Never reply to me with this weeaboo trash ever again

So what's the best 3rd level or lower spell that's still good when you're level 11?

>>53989933
Haste. Hypnotic Pattern. Fly.

>>53989933
Grease. No concentration prone zone that lasts for 1 minute for a 1st level slot.

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>>53989927

>>53989861
10 int is average, though.

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What is your BBEG's motivation, /5eg/?

>>53989933
Aura of Vitality

It's 20d6 of healing to everyone in the party in a minute. Also it can get people up repeatedly in combat.

>>53989199
>>53989227
>>53989278
>>53989301
>>53989333
A lot of them do seem like massive autists. This guy >>53989333 especially.

>>53989998
Unleashing their demon master from the confines of a cosmic force worshiped by hundreds of thousands of people.

And there are other bad guys with longer-term plans involving helping their demon master call down the undead remnants of the creator of the multiverse to usher in a neverending era of undeath on the world.

>>53989906
Everyone can do it. You want me to show you my MS Paint skills?

>>53989998
Remove smoothskins and return the Yuan-Ti empire to its former glory

>>53989998
Get out of his prison to have a temper tantrum and steal his brother's shit.

In reality this campaign is a stepping stone into my next one, which is planar hopping stuff. Just need a reason for something more powerful then the gods to be traveling around killing everything.

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>>53989998
He wants the party to stop bullying him.

>>53989764
I shrug and go about my campaign.

>>53989861
Below 10 in this case.

>>53989998
I'm still working on the kinks but it's trying to break the seal on its body through the influence of royalty in the largest kingdom in my setting because ages ago they used its power to get where they are. Getting the item to break the seal requires the blood of the family that put an to its plans and that's where the PCs come in. I don't want anything too set in stone in case the players veer off in another direction but I want to keep it FEish.

What fighting style should I go on a sword-n-board battle master?

>>53990187
Duelling.

>>53989764
>rainbow dragons

Without shitposting, how would their personality look like?

>>53989933
Counterspell.

Tips on how to run a prison break? Specifically on ways the party may try to escape and how to show them that those are viable. General first time DM tips also welcome

>>53990227
I might stick it at CN. Normally chromatic dragons are evil, but I'd take the rainbow coloring to make it unhinged and doing whatever amused it the most.

Adult and ancient rainbow dragons would be exceedingly rare since most end up getting themselves killed doing something fucking stupid.

>>53990095
>miffed weeb

What would be a good way to learn a fiends true name?

>>53990404
ask nicely

>>53990404
Read its diary

>>53990404
White pages

>>53990404
Ask another fiend that would benefit from the first fiend being harmed.

>>53990404
Zone of Truth

>>53990404
google it.

Do people have specific methods/systems for coordinated groups and games?

My gang currently runs out of a private Facebook group, with events for scheduling games.

Always looking for a better solution.

>>53990484
Zone of Truth doesn't force somebody to respond. Anything they do say just has to be truthful.

>teifling warlock, fiend patron, flames of phlegethos UA feat
Pack of the tome or pack of the chain? Also any ideas for a preferably not edgy backstory for a fiend warlock?

>>53990547
I'm sure you could get a response from them with some clever application of holy water, needles, pliers, and other pain-inducing stuff.

Or, you know, Detect Thoughts.

Or if you have a Mystic use one of their brain rape options.

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>>53989018
Hello /tg/, I just discovered the great astranauta github and I'm getting up to date with all the new class path/archetypes since I haven't run a 5e campaign in a year.
My question may seem retarded, but when did all the class mechanics get so combat-focused?
I'm sure I remember the rogue having an entire archetype based around city stealth and identity theft and loving the background module from the character creation, but every single new bard/druid/cleric archetype I've read so far only has combat-related features, even the college of fucking whispers...

This is making me sad, I know a lot of people are going to say that D&D is a wargame as its core, but I thought that 5e was all about getting the best of every version, including the out of combat stuff from AD&D.

>>53990582
Assuming the Mystic took telepathy discipline.

They don't actually need to giben how they get basic Telepathy as a class feature

>>53990564
I had a Fiend Warlock whose backstory was that his great great grandfather made the pact with the condition that it would continue unto the seventh generation of his children, and his father knocked up some waitress leaving him to be raised at a monastery.

He turns 16, the terms of the pact come due and an imp shows up to give him his fiendish birthright. So he was an acolyte of St. Cuthbert, all around pleasant guy who just so happened to have an demon powers. It was fun because the DM would have the imp constantly try to offer me more power in exchange for doing evil deeds but technically the Archfiend couldn't break the contract so I used his power to do good.

Should I take gwm and PAM on my paladin or do I only need PAM? Also should I go with gwf or protection style?

>>53989466
At my local weekly game I play a straight bear totem barbarian and my friend plays a druid 2/barbarian 4 in order to rage then bear. Its pretty fuckin rad yo! If you're going druid/barb, start with druid and invest more in mental stats as when you wildshape you take on the physical stats of the creature you wild shape into.

>>53990671
The discipline is rather strong even without abusing Occluded Mind, as it gives Hold Person and Dominate Person.

>>53990761
Personally, as sole spellcaster... I got a lot more urgent shit to grab first. There's not even a healer.

There goes my offensive character concept...

>>53990787
Look pal, sometimes you gotta let the herd thin itself. If nobody else is playing a caster just accept their deaths and they can roll new, more team oriented characters afterwards.

>>53990787
Grab Psi Restore and you're an effective healer, grab Psi Assault and you're an effective attacker, fill out the rest with stuff that fits your character concept.

People bitch about mystic being too versatile but thats ehy I love it, means I can make what I want without having to worry about group synergy too much.

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I'm gonna throw a vampire spawn and five wights at my players. They will get assistance from a bandit veteran and four thugs.
Party composition
>lvl3 bard
>lvl3 PAM paladin
>lvl3 battlemaster fighter
>lvl3 sorc
>lvl3 ranger
>lvl3 priest

Are my players fucked?

Another question
Can this party take on just 5 wights without outside help?

>>53991124
You've got a Cleric and a Paladin (I assume the priest is some kind of Cleric), that should be a cakewalk. Turn undead will destroy that encounter. If even two of the Wight fail their check the fight might as well be over.

Making a Warlock based on the Pact of the Star from 4e (I think). What sort of stuff should I change for flavor? I plan to see if I can change most elemental damage to cold (based off Hunger of Hadar and the cold of space), and my character will take the the Invocation that makes her not able to sleep and she'll basically be spending her nights staring at the stars and praying to her elder evil gods. I should probably incorporate acid damage too but I think that's a bit too powerful? I don't really know. Should I make Eldritch Blast deal cold?

>>53991153
I finally got to use turn undead for the first time in my current campaign. It was glorious.

>>53990051
everyone can also be insecure, but you're an expert at it

$nip<dot>li

D&D Character Sheets (2017)
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Much higher resolution that was posted previously.

>>53991188
Pact of the Star is the Great Old One patron in this version. That already exists.

>>53991374
I didn't think I'd need to clarify, I just meant I'm using GOO and flavoring it to be my Warlock drawing power from the elder evil stars. That's all. I was thinking about changing some spells to make their damage type fit better. Like Hellish Rebuke would become Rebuke of the Void and deal cold damage instead of fire. Not changing any of the class or archetype abilities.

>>53991153
>Turn undead
People always underestimate this, but it's fucking brutal.

Short Rest AoE save or suck is good, even if it's situational. I'm happy they made Arcana Cleric's a single target turn or it would've been impossible to make them fight anything other then people and monsters.

So I know some anti-magic spells work on Psionics, but which ones is it?

Can I Counter? Dispel? Antimagic Field?

>>53991603
All of them work, if you can notice therm casting without components.

>>53991660
So basically if they describe themselves doing hand gestures or anything even though they don't have to do them, I can try to counter it?

Game's having an arena thing soon with a big ass map and all of us + some NPC's. It's a free for all but no killing. I'm planning to more or less Dominate the Fighter and blow all his resources in one round but if the Mystic tries some crap I want to have an answer.

He's weeb x100 an does all his gay ass hand signs when using disciplines.

>>53991722
Should work.

>>53991603
Counterspell and dispel magic don't work because those both specify spells.

Antimagic field does work.

>>53989278
Out of the abyss is fucking cancer. Literally a giant dungeon crawl. Garbage m.

>>53989363
He's a big guy.

>>53989630
Refluff a shortsword as a claw weapon.

>>53989461

"X is important, it's just DM's don't utilize it" is practically the 5e motto at this point.

>>53989018
Brought this up in a previous thread, but would a Nilbog with a Rakasha's stats and Spell Resistance that just shows up to fuck with the party be too much and just annoying?

I've never added Legendary Actions to a creature, what do you recommend for adding to a Vampire Spellcaster?

Should I just port over the Strahd ones?

>>53991188
I doubt any GM will question you wanting to homebrew EB into an objectively weaker form so knock yourself out

>>53989764
White Dragons are evil you absolute fucking idiot

>>53991914
White dragons are racist.

Since for some reason I can't make a fucking thread on my computer and I hate using my phone I'm going to ask it here because it relates to 5e.

I'm running a D&D campaign that has interbred dragons in it; Chromatic/ Chromatic, Metallic/Metallic, and Chromatic/Metallic respectively. I've been looking for artwork that can give the group I DM for an idea as to their appearance plus for making tokens with since we play on roll20. I've found a good amount already but I've had to sift through so much shit that involved feathers, fur, and/or beginner OC deviantart that I've been a bit turned off to look further. Anyone got some good artwork I could use?

>>53991760
Really? Shit. I guess I'll have to use the old trick for fighting psionic fags, slaughter them fast. How long could a level 7 Nomad Mystic hold off 8 Dretches?

>>53991928
Context of your lust for murdering this PC?

>>53991454
I just refluffed the names and descriptions of a couple of cantrips (pic related) for my GOO warlock today, focused on the "hunger" aspect of Hadar. Thorn Whip gave me the most trouble - there's already an invocation called "Grasp of Hadar."

Anyway, the cantrips themselves are unchanged. Anons, suggest better names for these refluffed cantrips.

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>>53991958
I am a faggot. Image is here.

>>53991760
Not entirely correct.
> There is one important exception to this rule. A psionic effect that reproduces a spell is treated as magic. A psionic effect reproduces a spell when it allows a psionic creature or character to cast a spell. In this case, psionic energy taps into magic and manipulates it to cast the spell...These spells can be countered with dispel magic and similar effects.

>>53991946
Gold and for fun.

I'm not killing him, just reducing him to 0hp for a free-for-all arena fight the city holds. Only rules are no spells or buffs activated before it begins and no bringing in an assistant or pet.

Me and the Swashbuckler are planning to try and work together until it's just me and him for it.

>>53991975
None of the disciplines in Mystic v3 let you cast spells. Even the ones that create similar effects don't have you cast the spell, just produce a similar effect.

>>53989481

"Viable" is an iffy word because it can mean a lot of things. You're basically always going to be absolutely terrible at damage. However with two free hands you'd be well suited to a grappling-heavy build that focuses on nearly 100% crowd control and leaves the damage to others.

Like a lot of gimmick builds, though, you're going to need everyone in the party's buy-in to help you get your grapples going and position themselves to capitalize on them. Failing that, or assuming DPS is more needed than CC, it's going to drastically under-perform.

>>53991981
What is your build?

I'm running SKT for the first time, does anyone have any good advice for running it?

>>53989925

Find people who play the game instead of shitposting made up greentext on this board all day.

What makes a warlock unique in a mechanical sense? What would make a player choose them over a sorcerer or wizard?

>>53992056
Able to buff their go-to cantrip and get most of their spells after a short rest. They also get some leveled spells at-will like silent image, disguise self, and so on.

>>53989933
Mirror image

I am so done right now. I DM'd tonight for my group's 5th session and they have given me the hardest time. I had them go through a mine and eventually fight a cave Fisher (level 2, 3 of them) and they have not even tried; a month in, they haven't bothered to learn their abilities like sneak attack or using ki, not even knowing how to roll damage (it's literally written on their sheets) and having me tell them how to roll. When they're not knowing how to play, the one who watches CR keeps overanalyzing every drawer and stonework, having too repeat over and over again "nothing picques your interest" or "seems normal". What caused me to completely give up and end the session right after they leave the cave was when the CR fan (a ranger) found his future animal companion under rubble and cleared it out. When he entered the room I described the animal and a work bench, the only two things in the room. Mr.Overanalysis completely ignored the obvious workbench with key items and started leaving the cave. I literally said " you leave the room after seeing the working and the animal?" twice, then giving up and telling him he should check the workbench. After I close the session in disappointment in them and I telling him what to do or if agitation, I ask him why he didn't check the wb first; he tells me it's my fault for not putting it it more obviously (even though I did) and told me Matt Mercer would've made it more obvious. I swear I was so close to having his character spontaneously door of arrogance and stupidity. Should I even make a game for ungrateful and lazy players who don't seem to try? I'm so used right now, I put so much work into this while they complain and don't try. Im so agitated

>>53989998

To take over the world and use it as a staging ground for an eventual assault on Sigil.

What's Warlock's one with shadow invocation good for? You already use your action to become invisible, you can't use hide action anymore.

>>53992021
Drow Shadow Sorcerer level 7. I know he can probably see through my Darkness spells.

My spells are Polymorph, Conjure Lesser Demon, Haste, Shield, Blindness/Deafness, Magic Missile, Fireball and Counterspell. I can cast Darkness for 1SP and summon a Hound of Ill Omen for 3SP. Have 16 CHA and the Drow Magic feat from the UA.

The fight's in the late afternoon so my Sunlight Sensitivity won't matter much.

>>53992027
What level are you starting at? The opening thing is lame, I would either run something else from 1 to 5 or start at 5 and just start them off in one of the 3 towns

>>53992138
You don't need to, you're an unseen target. You can just move away and automatically be considered hidden (assuming you leave no tracks/make noise)

>>53992096
>CR fan
Well that's your problem. Throw some troglodytes at them, kill one of them and show that this game will in fact feature character death.

>>53992162
One with shadow break if you move though.

>>53992056
They're designed completely differently. A warlock basically is a ranged martial disguised as a caster. With a single invocation, you can get up to 4 1d10 + cha modifier force damage beams, and you can grab additional invocations to do things like slow down whatever you hit by 10 feet, pulling it towards you, increase its range to 300 feet, or firing a fireball alongside an EB.

Unlike the other casters, the warlock has the Pact Magic feature, which makes all its slots the same level (up to 5th, and after that you get a different feature for casting a 1/long rest spell of the appropriate level) and recovers on a short rest, in exchange for having a pitiful amount of them. Although at max level you TECHNICALLY have more 5th level slots than anyone else, since they're literally the only ones you get.

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>>53992178
well, maybe vax is actually dead

>>53992179
True. I guess its supposed to let you set up ambushes in interesting ways?

>>53992162
See the inivisible condition again.

> An invisible creature is impossible to see without the aid of magic or a special sense. For the purpose of hiding, the creature is heavily obscured. The creature's location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves.
> For the purpose of hiding

In 5e creatures still know where you are unless you use hiding even if you are invisible.

>>53992096
Have you tried telling your players that your tired of them being ignorant of the games rules? Send them a PDF of the PHB and ask them to read it.
Tell the other one that you aren't Matt Merced and that Critical Role is bad.

>>53992178
They were close to dying against the Cave Fisher, but my problem was that he keeps telling me"not as good as Matt Merced" this spoiled brat expects the world out of me, a new DM, who's watched CR far longer and puts a lot and effort in. Then he ignores the plain-as-day workbench. What a ingoramus who can't play smart but blames me for his stupidity

>>53992238
Call him on it then. If he's going to keep sayin Matt Mercer is better then let that player either DM the game or leave.

>>53990187

Depending on your party composition and play style either Dueling, Defense, or Protection.

If it's worth your time to babysit a high-value teammate, Protection. Defense is okay under almost all circumstances, but it's particularly good on flex-tanks. Remember, there's no "aggro" in 5e so it's not enough to be able to take a hit, you have to hit back hard enough to keep their attention.

If you're after DPR or you want to make *sure* they're focused on you, Dueling.

>>53992238
Talk to him about it and if by the next session he's still like that just kick him out.

>>53992226
The year have the PHB and have babied the most with updating their Character Sheets. still not enough though apparently.

I like CR, but this guy has become insufferable expecting production-quality DMing from a poor college guy, and is obliviously expectant when he's no where close as clever or aware as friggin Marisha when she's blacked-out drunk

>>53992199
>>53992179
You can do it the other way around. Hide first ( you can do that in dimlight / darkness anyway) then turn invisible.

People, come on, it's the same Mercerpasta guy. Ignore him and move on.

>>53992256
>>53992261
Honestly, I think I'll tell them all they better have their crap together for next week or I'm done DMing for them. I'm tired of going unappreciated by a snooty expectant player who sucks for everyone and other not trying drifters

>>53992345
Dude screw off, my life is not a copypasta I'm tired and upset and I don't need some reddit autist claiming vigilance of an anime website. Thanks no thanks

>>53992027

Get *very* comfortable with the book and especially the next chapter to be played so you can run with whatever the players give you. You can run SKT a dozen times and have a dozen different experiences, but all that flexibility comes at the cost of literal unpredictability. Your players are going to surprise you. Enjoy the surprise and roll with it.

>>53992385
this is also not your blog

>raids by Orcs are becoming more frequent on the outskirts of a small human city
>word is being spread of a much larger Orc war party being assembled to sack the city itself
>the Orcs are being armed as part of a Dwarven conspiracy to drive up sales of arms and armor to the human city, along with lucrative defense contracts
Post your plots.

>>53992510
I would, but I know at least one of my players is probably in this thread.

the secret of the tower is fuck you, I never got to use it last campaign

also the warforged is a memetic hazard

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How can I convince the rest of my stupid party that I don't need to waste my spell slots to heal them everytime they take damage? These fuckers will take like 10 points of damage and still have 30hp left and if I don't heal them they get all pissy as if I'm not doing my job properly. Use your fucking hit dice, you have a resource specifically for healing your own health so that you don't have to make me use my resource that I can also use for a bunch of useful combat shit. I'm a fucking druid you pricks, wouldn't you rather me trap all of the enemies in place and halve their movement speed, than heal 10 points of damage that you can heal basically for free after the fight?

>>53992510
> the count has been making strange land purchases and building odd looking homes
> he's secretly a Rakshasa setting up a circle to teleport the kingdom to hell
> The leader of the anarchists returns after 50 years with new plans for the revolution
> He's made a deal with an ancient forest spirit to destroy the city

I like to have multiple schemes running in case they don't follow one of the plot threads,

>>53992656
Out of character or in character?

OOC use the explanation in your post

In-character, just make your character be a gruff asshole who looks at their wounds and tells them to rub some dirt in it and stop whining, your magic has better uses.

>>53992656
Your character may not have a concept of "spell slots" but he knows that he can't cast spells without limit. He can tell them straight that he thinks its better to save his magic for more important and dangerous encounters, since you still expect confrontation. Unless you're a naive waif of a druid who thinks that everyone should always be healthy, any healer of any kind should understand the basic concept of triage and limited resources.

I just realized that Cloud of Daggers doesn't have a saving throw check. Can you push / pull the enemy into the effect multiple time per round (on each PC turn for example).

>>53992656
Tell them to get their head out of MMO mentality.

>>53992850
Sounds like it would require a bit of set up and a party prepared for that specific tactic, but from what I'm reading that should be possible

>>53992924
> all warlock party with repeling blast playing pong with enemy

>>53992850
>A creature takes 4d4 slashing damage when it enters the spell's area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there.
RAW yes if you do it on opposing turns but RAI it's a bit cheesy

>>53992656
I had a dm that would constantly throw encounters at us, even when we picked a relatively safe space to rest I'd still see him rolling dice behind his dm screen

>>53993051
> not setting up several layer of leomund's tiny hut

>>53993051
That sounds fun. Our DM trickles shit in.

Should I take my first level in Fighter if I want to be an Oath of the Crown defender Paladin?

>>53993225
Why do you want to get from Fighter that couldn't be gain from Paladin?

>>53993274
Constitution saving throw proficiency, second fighting style.

But I'm thinking Hexblade Warlock might be a better choice, for Blade Ward/Shield/curse.

>>53993289
Wisdom is a better saving throw to have.

>>53989018
>Come across town with party
>Fog everywhere and spooky bullshit going on
>Everyone is missing except a friendly tiger man trying to sell us cheap magic gear
>Nope the fuck out of there and ignore the side quest entirely

I don't fuck around with respawning magic immune tiger assholes.

>>53989058
/pol/ are the blackguard discipline of paladine

>>53993289
You're pushing back having literally all saving throws by one level, as well as theoretically sacrificing the level 20 capstone. None of the Fighting Styles are as good for Paladins as they are for Fighters so you only really need one.

>>53993411
>Fog everywhere and spooky bullshit going on
>Nope the fuck out of there and ignore the side quest entirely
Implying Ravenloft will let you leave.

>>53993461
Different flavor of spooky bullshit, it was implied to be caused by a spell on the area but I wasn't about to stick around and find out. Moved on and reported it to the military, it's their problem now.

t. TN party

Would you allow PAM to apply to spears?

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>Make wild west world with dudes in armor
>Kobolds live in the new world and are the bandito/native proxy
>Decide to go one layer deeper and have ancient merfolk tunnels crisscrossing the whole continent
>But all the colonists are too busy being colonists to explore proper
>Merfolk got wiped out by some event thousands of years ago
>They're super angry and confused ghosts now roam the countryside at night killing whoever they find
>Party will explore these occasionally as they stumble upon entrances to ancient chambers

I'm torn between two things that killed everyone. Either they tried to summon their deity but fucked up or their deity ended up being some sort of elemental evil. Are there some sort of super water demons that are super evil? Or do I just make something up?

>>53993562
Olhydra is the Princess of (Evil) Water, and has stats in Princes of the Apocalypse

>>53993543
A spear is just a Quarterstaff with the thrown property so yeah.

I also let it be used with Pikes and Lances.

I decided to be a Great Old One Warlock in our game for figuring out 5th ed. We rolled for backgrounds and I ended up 100% Robin Hood.

How do I justify Cthulhu Robin Hood?

Is tunnel fighter actually good?

>>53993718
>the entity you have formed a pact with is inscrutable at best
>while you use your powers for good, every choice you make unknowingly furthers this being's goals
Or
>the being you've made your pact with fails to grasp human concepts like good and evil
>it has made a pact with a type of person from each alignment in an attempt to "understand" us
>why? Who knows
Or go with a much less generic approach.

>>53993718
They don't know the source of their power, or misinterpret what it is?
They spread their cult by becoming an idol to the poor?
They're a genuinely good person who stuck a deal they didn't understand to get the power to be heroic?

>>53993718
Draw your power from Azathoth the blind idiot. He doesn't even know or care that you exist. You're essentially stealing power from an ancient god and using it to be robin hood.

>>53993722
>Level Oath of Vengeance Paladin with PAM/GWM and Glaive/Halberd
>command enemy to approach
>Get to attack when enemies enter reach
>Can move up to half speed whenever you opportunity attack an enemy
>movement triggers when attack occurs and interrupts enemy movement
>move 5 feet away
>enemy keeps moving towards you
>Tunnel Fighter lets you attack again
>repeat until they use all their movement

breddy gud

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>>53989058
>>53989187
Where is Cleric?
Probably /his/

>>53989018
>MEGA still doesn't have newer AL adventures
It's like you aren't even trying!

>>53993718
Folk Hero? You were the posterchild for an uprising against the "innsmouth" monarchy and upon her execution, the Queen, with her multifaceted eyes looking upon you, bestows with her dying mandibles a secret name. Every night since you've had feverish dreams of the name's bearer...

Give me fun Cleric builds please :3

>>53994089
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>>53994089
Elf or Dwarf on anything that doesn't normally get martial weapons, and use your racial proficiencies!
Good combos-
Dwarf + Light, or Healing
Wood Elf + Nature
High Elf + Knowledge

anyone play the most recent AL adventures?

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>>53994099
>>53994181
Alright, so I'm looking at a Wood Elf, because elves are cool.

Tempest and Nature both seem awesome. Nature getting Spike Growth and Plant Growth is cool but Tempest's channel divinity looks fun. I just can't make up my mind.

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>>53989018
>haven't touched 3.5/pathfinder since 4e was announced, so many many years
>hate AL character creation rules
>decide to look at pathfinder society character creation rules

The fuck, you can be almost anything in pathfinder, which is already bloated as fuck. Meanwhile, wotc barely has any player supplements, only the last 3rd of the sword coast book is actual player crunch and volo's guide is a single chapter, along with the elemental evil player's guide that is online and like 8 pages or so. Yet, wotc says you can use the PHB and only 1 more, what kind of bullshit is that?

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>>53994238
>playing in public events

>>53994214
You wanna be a tree man who's friends with all the animals and can blend into the forest, or a storm man who can shock all the animals and blend into heavy rain???

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>>53994238
I know! It's weird because imo the most bullshit thing you can do in AL games (Svirfneblen Aburation Wizard) is still allowed with the rules. I'd much prefer it if they allowed all books.

>>53994287
Alright I think I'll go Nature. Thanks dood!

So for the spell Control Water, what does it mean by freestanding water? Is part of the ocean or a moving river freestanding? Or does it mostly mean like a pool or small lake?

>>53993505

t. party of cowards

fucking losers. what kind of adventurers are you if some fog and a bloody furry are enough to have you quaking in your boots.

>>53994238

You can do anything in Pathfinder if you're either bringing the physical book or an e-mail watermarked pdf w/ receipt on demand, hence why Paizo is more than happy to spread the stuff for Kineticist through half a dozen books. AL character creation may be more restrictive, but at least it's free.

>>53992656
Indulge them a encounter, the just shrug and say "all out, do your job and kill enemies faster"

>>53994482

I think it's intended to mean any water that's just sitting there, from a puddle to an ocean, as opposed to water in a container or attempting to bloodbend.

RAW it's a bit of a mess, though. I'm not sure "freestanding" is actually a word that's usually applied to water. "Standing" water is a term used, but it's used to mean water with no current which A) basically makes the spell useless and B) is directly contradicted by the section "Redirect Flow" which *requires* flowing water, which is the opposite of "standing."

My read on it is that they meant "no blood bending/dehydration damage" and picked an unclear term for it.

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Hey babes,

I'm gonna be running "Out of the Abyss". Any recommendations for tweaks I might want to make?

>>53994683
This is a perfectly reasonable interpretation and also how I think most people play it.

>>53994683


so then picking a spot in the ocean and making a huge 100ft cube trench appear under a ship is just fine?

I did it, /5eg/, I introduced my family to DND. Here's the story

>introducing my brother, my sister, and my dad
>make literal race cards, and then pre-gen all character sheets leaving some spots blank to accommodate for racial bonuses
>allows for extremely expedited character creation without removing customization entirely
>all the mechanics explained and everyone set up in less than 10 minutes
>given that they had very little idea of how to play DND at the start this was a miracle
>Brother: blue dragonborn named Pikachu
>Sister: dwarven wizard named Hairy Harry
>Sister's Friend: orcish druid named Hulk
>Dad: halfling barbarian named Big Nasty
>let's go

>open in Fantasy!Louisiana where they're all crowded in a concert hall in a swamp town listening to blues musicians
>introduce them to skill checks and RP by having them observe the area around them, order drinks from a waitress, etc.
>Pikachu makes a Persuasion check to convince the singer on stage to play Free Bird, succeeds
>later, concert hall owner comes out to introduce a renowned bard by the name of Fats Filmore
>Fats Filmore doesn't show, and apparently never arrived in town
>Big Nasty frustratedly throws a javelin at the emmcee, nearly killing him
>it's gonna be one of those games
>the entire tavern turns against the party for such a flagrant assault
>this conveniently turns into a great combat tutorial as they proceed to murder most everyone in the tavern, and even knock Hairy Harry unconscious
>they succeed, so i introduce a dark elf rogue to recruit them for a special mission; apparently Fats Filmore has been abducted by the Green Goblin Gang over some debts. The dark elf is owed money by Fats Filmore too, so it's in his interests to find Fats and bring him back. He wants the party's help
>they agree

to be continued

>>53994952

Well, it seems like the intention of the spell is to be able to move vehicles since the "Flood" section specifically calls out "huge or smaller" vehicles, their trajectory, and their chance or capsizing.

"Part Water" doesn't specify vehicles, but it also doesn't simply blink the water out of existence. As a DM I would rule that based on the line "You cause water in the area to move apart" that any vehicles floating on top of the water would move with it.

>>53994974

>the dark elf takes the party on a boat out across the swamp to the green goblin gang's hideout
>perched on the shore of the swamp where they need to land is a pair of hooting and hollering skunk apes
>Pikachu drags down the group stealth check and alerts the skunk apes to their presence
>Hulk wild shapes into a gorilla and tries to convince the skunk apes that she's one of them
>fails the Persuasion check
>Hairy Harry casts grease on the apes and as they fall prone, Big Nasty clefts them in twain
>they move on to the cave where the Green Goblin Gang is hiding, and hear music coming from it, suggesting Fats must be inside
>the only thing inside is an room empty except for several dead goblins, but the music's gotten louder
>the gang fucks up their search for hidden doors so bad that the music stops and SOMEONE starts approaching the room from behind the wall
>a voice on the other side of the wall tells them to "go away" and that they're "enjoying a private concert"
>Hulk thinks to convince the voice that they're an a cappella band
>they succeed on the group check just enough to where the voice takes interest in their music because "there is beauty in decay"
>the door opens and they're greeted by a large humanoid toad in a breastplate and conical hat named Heironymous Feyfrog
>they're led down a tunnel to a room where Fats Filmore is chained to the wall, forced to play for the music-loving amphibian, who killed the goblins after they fulfilled his favor of bringing Fats to him

to be continued

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What are some good sea sorcerer shenanigans? No multiclassing into warlock.

>>53994974
>Dad: halfling barbarian named Big Nasty
This made me laugh.

>>53995024

>Heironymous sits down expectantly for the party and Fats to start another song
>knowing that lightning won't strike twice, Hulk opts to Entangle and succeeds
>combat begins again
>despite being restrained, Heironymous still gets first initiative and breaks out, and starts hopping all over the place smacking fuckers with his morningstar, battering them with his frog tongue, and making them reel with poison breath
>the dark elf is distracted the whole fight trying to extort Fats into repaying his debts before he frees him
>Eventually Big Nasty wears him down to 1 HP
>Pikachu charges the frog and annihilates him with lightning breath, leaving nothing but a singed conical hat in his wake
>Turns out the dark elf was being dubious
>Hairy Harry turns him into an ice sculpture with ray of frost and shatters him
>They rescue Fats and bring him back into town, where they're greeted by the entire militia for the murder of like a dozen and then some bar patrons
>Fats says "it's alright fellas, they're with me" and that's all the excuse they need to get away with their spree

Was it goofy and off-the-chain? Yes. But folks, it felt so good to see my family really get INTO the game and really enjoy themselves, more than I thought they would. They all told me they'd love to play again sometime, and my brother especially would like to learn more about the nitty-gritty of character creation.

It feels good.

>>53992193
only until the cleric gets true resurrection.

>>53995068
Hey man that's cool as fuck. I'd like to experience something so awesome someday as well.
Hope you can continue to enjoy rpgs witv your senpai

>>53995068
nice.

>>53989998
To summon the Seven-Headed God back into the material plane. His people have branded him a heretic, and he will stop at nothing to give his god a physical form again.

The party haven't actually run into him yet, but they keep hearing about him.

>>53992193
Good, I honestly think Vax is the worst character in Vox Machina, even his waifu is better.

>>53989497
>1d4 punches
Unarmed Strikes don't need a free hand. You can climb, grapple and improvise better. The longsword that takes up a hand only deals 1d8. It's not a big deal.

>>53995166
I can't tell you, because my party sometimes reads in here

>>53995235
what

>>53989764
The whites are evil, the blacks like living in swamps, and my first D&D book was about rainbow dragons, or I wouldn't bother replying to this poor bait. Seriously. Revenge of the Rainbow Dragons CYOA book.

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>>53995244
I will tell you in a month, ok?

>>53995065
Multiclass into Warlock.

No, really, that's about all its class abilities are good for.

>>53995258
I... I don't understand.

I didn't ask a question. Why did you quote me?

>>53990022
>It's 20d6 of healing to everyone in the party in a minute.
It's 20d6 of healing divided however you choose in 2d6 blocks. Even heals undead. There's a big difference between 'anyone' and 'everyone'.

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>>53995271
I know that we have to talk.

First though, what do you think of this?

>>53995281
I know that it hurts my eyes...

I don't understand, are you one of my players memeing on me?

>>53990404
Hack into its Facebook account. Ask really nicely. Find it on a legal document like a birth/death/marriage certificate.

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>>53995288
Let's find out next session.

Nice spoiler.

>>53995298
Time to test if you are one of my players memeing me.

Two questions: What happened at the end of the session, and what game am I playing right now?

>>53994238
>1
Don't play AL. It's better to find a group online if you don't have any friends. AL is trash.

>2
You can create pretty much any character you want to with 5e, just refluff stuff a bit.

>3
It's good that the game doesn't have a billion classes and subclasses. It's already getting to the point where there's too many.

>>53994974 >>53995024 >>53995068

Neat. Only thing that matters is that the players (and the gm) have fun. Seems like it worked out for you.

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not too familiar with Vampires in 5e or even previous editions, but i'm learning.

are they likely to ally themselves with other Lycanthropes? if so, they'd probably be the upmost echelon of the that sort of arrangement, eh?

haven't read and am not running CoS, but that may be a good supplement just for raw information on vamps.

>>53995390
>with other Lycanthropes
Vampires are not Lycanthropes.

>>53995398
my bad, i'm aware, i was just thinking of shapeshifter and fucked up my wording

Hey guys,

Raven Queen Warlock, what actions can I make the Raven take?

It doesnt mention that I can cast spells through it and it doesnt say if I can use it for the Help action either

>>53995390
Basically vampires and werewolves are really fucking gay and are more likely to have a gay orgy than pose any sort of threat to anything. Expect maybe the morals of society.

>oath of redemption paladin with polearm master, wielding a quarterstave in both hands

Imagining an old human man with a walking staff running about wearing only robes and having an AC of like 18 naked

Wondering how the charm thing actually works out in actual play. Is sparing everyone I take down (which will be a lot, will be a major damage dealer in this group) just going to be annoying for everyone else?

>>53995420
uh, its all listed for you already.

>While the raven is perched on your shoulder, you gain darkvision with a range of 30 feet and a bonus to your passive Perception score and to Perception checks. The bonus equals your Charisma modifier. While perched on your shoulder, the raven can’t be targeted by any attack or other harmful effect

>You can see through the raven’s eyes and hear what it hears while it is within 100 feet of you. In combat, you roll initiative for the raven and control how it acts. If it is slain by a creature, you gain advantage on all attack rolls against the killer for the next 24 hours.

its just treated as a raven familiar otherwise. so in combat, its got the Raven stat block.

>>53995420
Specifically as a raven familiar it can give advantage to an ally of your choosing with the aid another action.

>>53989018
Gotta say I hate the redemptioniat Paladin.

Base AC 16 just... doesn't make sense, and although the concept could work with the rare group I don't see it being a good one for the vast majority.

I guess it's just one more option but the whole thing seems off to me.

What's the point of stripping armour if you get free improved heavy armour anyway?

It can imagine how irritating this will be for some folks to play with "no no we have to save it" "what are you doing!? I charmed that one, you can't kill it!"

I think I like the concept but not the execution?

playing rifts recently and I'm beginning to appreciate how much more fun I have after a harrowing encounter than a game where you have multiple safety nets.

Bitch whine moan get off my lawn etcetera.

So I asked in a previous thread about some "unique" race that my PC could have had a drunken fling with in his past for flavour.
My character is from "generic medieval Europe fantasy land" called Irillshire, which is a name based sort of on Ireland
Whereas the rest of the party is from the main continent which is more of a high fantasy land
Therefore I have decided to have fucked a Faun so that people can call my character a goat fucker because it would be hilarious

>>53995442
He'd need the Dual Wielder feat to pull that off though...

>>53995065
Reverse Gravity? Send all the shit on deck falling upward, including people. The ship keeps moving (I would guess because it is too large). Spell wears off, all their shit and whoever didn't grab onto something get dropped into the ocean.

>>53995582
I would wield one staff with both hands, versatile property

>>53995542
This party is going to be 5/6 Lawful or good characters who are all playing their personal goal/alignments and mostly RPing, so sparing people will be mostly mutual besides for the borderline CN fighter

The oath doesn't say "don't kill", it's "kill what has to be killed" so for stuff like fiends undead etc you can totally kill'em nbd

>>53995663
>I would wield one staff with both hands, versatile property
Versatile means your damage dice improves if you hold the weapon in two hands.

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Playing in an AL game and just levelled up to 5, now that I got Extra Attack from Ranger I'm going to just level in Rogue from here out, what do you guys think? Thief or Mastermind?
Thief I got synergy with Fast Hands and Goodberry but Mastermind's bonus action help attack from 30ft away is really nice with my Archery fighting style. Sucks that a lot of the more roleplay abilities aren't as useful in AL modules but I don't see another time where I'd consider Mastermind.

desu thinking too hard about this garbage

What's the least interesting class for fluff and why is it Paladin?

Our main campaign just ended, and the "new" one fizzled, so were starting a slightly less serious round-table DM game.

I am edgelord aquaman, oathbreaker triton who said fuck the ocean, pollution is great and has no effect on the environment.

I'm intentionally playing him as being seen like an internet edgelord or chuuni, and thus i need things i can exclaim at various points to be hilariously edgy.

>>53995680
Im aware, I intend to utilize that property

>>53995754

it's druid

>>53995754
Paladins have great fluff, but in 5e they are diminished somewhat since they no longer have to be LG/devoted to a god.

But I like the flexibility the class now has, even if my Paladin is LG redemption and devoted to Ilmater

>>53995800
Had* great fluff

I think there is still much more boring classes fluffwise in 5e. Monks, druids, warlocks have the potential to be cool but have no real interaction/responsibility to their patrons by RAW and are so hamstrung by Pact Magic that they feel lame as fuck

>when your country's gay ass timezone makes all Roll20 games be on about at 4 am

Fuuuuuuck I don't want to do this tomorrow but I already missed last session, and I know it sucks when people do that more then once.

>>53995754
Paladins are pretty boring because the people playing them suck. No one likes dealing with edge lords, Half-Orc Paladins or anyone who explains their character with the word "Redemption" anywhere.

People like >>53995800 are the good Paladins. Something about the classic holy knight feel is just nice nowadays.

I also don't get why people have such hatred for Druid fluff. The Druid circles are pretty cool and can be a lot of interesting things. Best one I saw was a bunch of Sea Druids who were all the Nobles in one huge port city. That was a cool one.

Ranger's got nothing, I like the idea behind the class but the fluff's literally nothing.

>>53995892
Ranger PHB is just nothing all together. Should have just been a fighter archetype or a Barb archetype or something

I want a Barb hunter path or something, like a barbarian who specifically hunts down big game to provide for his tribe, like a mammoth hunter

>>53995924
I can see the place it should fill, but yeah the PHB version not only has no fluff but also has no mechanics.

I feel like changing Favored Enemy to basically a free unlimited Hunter's Mark you can place on enemies would've been cool.

Supposing I'm going Valor bard, which multiclassing option with paladin would be preffered

14 bard + 6 paladin
16 bard + 4 paladin

>>53995941
18 Bard/2 Paladin.

>>53995952
for magical secrets, right?

thing is for roleplaying reasons I would like to reach at least level 3 paladins. Optimization is not really the biggest concern

>>53995975
6 Paladin/ 14 bard is probably the best then. Get your second attack so you can smite things, and pick up the aura for cha to saves. You only get 4 ASI's, but you can make do.

>>53995975
Then 3 Paladin/17 Bard.

My main reasoning was that the two most importent features are Smite and Extra Attack. Smite's level 2 Bard then both Paladin and Valour Bard give it to you and it doesn't stack. So you shouldn't have a level spread that will give it to you twice or you're wasting that level.

I'd do Paladin 2/Bard 6/Paladin 1/Bard X.

>>53989350
>Long ocean trip
>Crew gives me funny looks every time I place basilisk eye on their plates, like it isn't a delicacy
>Maybe I'll try some giant foreskin, they seem more like meat lovers

>>53995941
Bard6/Paladin14 (Shillelagh)
or
Paladin6/Bard14 (Aura of protection)
or
Paladin2/Bard18 (Smite)

>>53995941
If you're doing Valor Bard only take 3-4 levels of Paladin.

But if you're doing Paladin+Bard then consider do Paladin 6 + Lore Bard 14, and also Shillelagh.

What are some high level adventure ideas that don't have devils/demons as the sole focus?

>>53996302
>and also Shillelagh
For the love of Jesus do not take Bard for Shillelagh,and throw away all uses for magic swords in the future.

>>53996350
Dragons

Would a chaotic or evil paladin make sense without being an oath-breaker?

>>53996508
Sure!

They could be Treachery oath.

>>53996350
Anything related to dragons or exotic plane adventures?

>>53992138
It's kind of like dodging in combat and it does let you hide out of combat and it works against creatures that can see in the dark. Pretty situational all the same.

>>53996508
There is trechery. Conquest could be Lawful evil

Memory of One Thousand Steps can't be used against attacks correct?

>>53996520
>>53996529
first time I've hard about those.
Thanks, they seem very fitting for what I had in mind

>>53996538
Memory of One Thousand Steps can't be used against traps is this correct? Sorry mistypes on my phone.

>>53996495
>>53996524

I'm a total fucking retard for forgetting about dragons. I'd definitely have to do some reading about the different planes before running an adventure there.

>>53996490
Fuck magic swords.

Get magic rods and quarterstaves.

>>53996508
Pretty much every oath can potentially be played evil.

>>53996636
not impossible because of the ambiguity of good and evil, but extremely difficult in cases like the oath of devotion

however I would argue that with some oaths it is prohibitive to be chaotic, more precisely chaotic evil

>>53996676
Well, yes. Evil can potentially just mean 'selfish' and given there's no alignment restriction they could take the oath just for power even though they do abide by the oath, but when something isn't within realms of the oath they might go and do the evil thing.

Devotion and ancients are a bit hard to skew towards evil though you could get away with it on vengeance which essentially works out as 'really hate something'

If I'm starting as a 5th level wizard how many spells would my character have learned along his journey?
Is there a default apart from minimum for that level which is 14 (I think).

>>53996699
oath of vengeance was definitely what I had in mind for some kind of chaotic evil paladin whose sole focus was to completely exterminate his enemies with no compassion or care, a madman akin to Goblin slayer for goblins.

Its a bit more complicated however. In my group we value roleplaying very high, even more than effectiveness (without getting stupid, of course). I was playing a chaotic evil bard who was a coward, treacherous, lying, overconfident, alcoholic, and basically a saturday morning cartoon villain made of slav memes whose saving graces are being inexplicably competent and a very funny accent impression.
After some shenanigans he has been forced to be enrolled in a paladin order and thus gain some paladin levels, so I was thinking what oath would the character follow without having to change the character much

Oath of Ancients is the only one that made remotely sense as a "remove kebab/kobold/[undead]" thing, but perhaps now that I know oath of treachery that seems more fitting

sorry for the unwarranted blog post

Give me some good rumours to sprinkle into my sessions /5eg/

>>53996812
Honestly if it's a proper paladin order he should take a proper oath even if he doesn't want to follow the oath properly

While most paladins get some of their power from their devout belief of that, the character kinda gains their power from some sort of bardic bullshitting and half-baked devotion. I mean, they're still not a full paladin at that point.

>>53996817
tell me setting very quickly

>>53996830
>if it's a proper paladin order
actually now that you mention it isn't a proper paladin order

Its more like an alliance of paladins that have formed to go war against lizardmen invaders. They do mass recruitment of capable people and teach the soldiers paladin bullshit instead of regular fighter bullshit because [I don't remember the exact details], so basically there are dozens of orders following different oaths, so there is room to choose from

However I also like your simple explanation of "the character might have learned paladin powers, but he uses them through bardic bullshit" if that's what you meant

>dex is better
>str means I can use a huge stone maul as a stone sorcerer
What to do?

>>53996903
Str
fun with roleplaying>effectiveness

>>53996903
Stone sorc shouldn't need dex. His AC is 13+Con, you should really be pumping Con and Cha with Str as secondary. IDK why you need dex.

>>53996832
Standard faux Europe with some Elven/Eastern/Desert territories thrown in.

Anything to pique interest would be appreciated

>>53996936
It's not a need, but dex saves, more skills and initative are still better than str saves and higher carry capacity. I'll just go str because it fits the character more

>>53996938
In the mountains at night you can hear a woman's, some say she's laughing, others say she's crying or singing

Once every four years a clan of raiding centaurs descends from the hills/comes from the plains to attack nearby villages.

[magical realm]There have been sights in the dessert of a large group of lamias traveling around, can they be connected to the disappearance of travelers? [/magical realm]

The road between two villages have been taken over by bandits who have built a road in the middle of the road across the woods to deny passage, forcing people to take a longer road. However it seems that these bandits are the kids and children of the townsfolk and thus they don't want to harm them. What happened to these kids to forget about their families and do this?

>>53992656
Out of character, make them watch Grimgar. Not all of it. You'll know when you've gotten to your point.

As a GM how can I get better at presenting theatre of the mind combat? I don't like being dependent on a grid because drawing out copies of my maps for players can slow down game play a lot

>>53997038
These are awesome, thanks anon!

>>53997140
You get better at drawing maps or play a game style that doesn't have tactical or dangerous or relevant or intelligent combat.

No matter what, you either have to make sure everybody knows the exact distances between enemies and obstacles and such or you have to use arbitrary decisionmaking.

5e's combat isn't really very exciting unless you can spice up the battlefield, and that works best with a map.

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>>53997038
>Built a road in the middle of the road

I'm playing a tome warlock in our new campaign!
How many dick do I have to suck to get all the ritual spell in the game (including UA)?

Why are there so many classes with CHR as their main attribute?

>>53997140
Theater of the mind works best if both you and the players are okay with things being a bit arbitrary and are willing to let the narrative have more influence on combat. If y'all are big on tactics, pre-drawing your maps would probably be best

>>53997363
Warlock used to be INT. Then grognard complain about it, so they change it to CHA.

Previously...
INT: Wizard, Warlock
WIS: Cleric,Druid,Ranger
CHA: Bard,Sorcerer,Paladin

>>53997334
eeeh meant to say fort in the middle of the road

got distracted there

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>>53997334
They'll never fucking suspect it

>>53993909
My 5e trove is up to date and is regularly updated, you can check the Da Archive thread for more into. Always taking file donations and cleaning requests.

When will 5etool update the lastest UA?

>>53997671
I think the anon that took over gave up

>>53997388
Why would anyone complain about this particular thing? It doesn't even make sense!

>>53996789
8 spells of 1st level
4 spells of 2nd level
2 spells of 3rd level

Obviously, you could learn lower level spell instead of higher level ones, but why would you?

I am playing Arcana Cleric and other players are bitching about the lack of healing, other than Healing Word when one is down. I also cast Bless a lot and Aid. Is there more i can do for my group, or are they ungrateful bitches?

Unrelated: Champion fighter rolls 19. Is it guaranteed hit? Or does the attack roll still needs to exceed AC and only then the Critical hit occurs?

>>53997974
Players are bitches. Healing is for when someone is dying, the entire group is low or an npc needs health

>>53997974
Same as if you rolled a 20 but 20 plus bonuses didn't hit. 19 still hits because it's a crit.

For the healing just make sure you have those out of combat and combat heal spells prepared. That's all anyone can ask for from a non life cleric. Also in my experience aid isn't worth it later on.

>>53998027
This. The amount of healing you can provide in-combat isn't great compared to the amount of damage they take. Keep doing what you're doing.

>>53997912
yes but I mean that my character should have found spell scrolls in his travels getting to level 5 so what would be the default that people go to for that?

I need your help /tg/,
I've DM'd some oneshots for my group in absence of our regular DM, and they've been such a great succes I'm taking over the campaign from the old DM (cause he sucked and did 0 preparing, unlike me). The group is really good but we have one guy who cannot stop making completely overpowered characters everytime. I'm really willing to work with him on making a character he finds fun to play but I refuse to let him play his +20 deception lvl 5 characters.
How do I deal with this autistic game-shitter? I'm out of patience with the guy.

>>53998140
90% of your post was irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Just have him roll his character.

Is anyone going to pull the Roll20 assets from this for download yet?

https://marketplace.roll20.net/browse/module/47/curse-of-strahd

>>53998140
+20 deception lvl5 characters? How? I need to know!

That sounds impossible!

>>53998140
>20 charisma
>6 from training + expertise
>advantage with enhance ability
How are they getting 20+