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>>53881983

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>>53957497

So where's Disciples of Harmony?

>>53958028
At your local game shop, of course!

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Alright, so all of Wave XI is spoiled, and we've got like 6 unannounced SKUs. I feel like it's time to take a strawpoll on what people think will show up in Wave XII.

Did this before Wave XI and some people actually guessed right!

https://strawpoll.com/6fez9fe

>>53958617

On a similar subject, do you think FFG can/would ever make an OG ship for Standard Play, like they did with the Raider for Epic?

Are there any Star Wars skirmish games I could play using IA minis? Something like Kill Team or Necromunda would be great.

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Fill in the blank:

The best possible use of 33 Imperial points is; _________

Is there any way in the game, using any combination of Specializations and talents, to hit multiple enemies with one action using a melee attack? TWF and saberstaff shenanigans only allow hitting the same target multiple times.

>>53959610

Ryad, x7, TIE mk II

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>>53959610
Juno Eclipse with VI, ATC, and prockets with GC. She destroys a good chunk of the meta, but is not a ship for the faint of heart.

>>53959768
I'd take crackshot over Mk. IIs honestly, especially on Ryad.

Had some really, really silly games today. I ran Two Tansarii Vets with Fearlessness and Arc Caster being supporter by VI Serissu with TB. List was rounded out with a Genesis Red with VI and HLC. I utterly destroyed my opponent on the joust, which he really didn't have much say in because of the TB.

Next game I took out an old list with Carnor/Zertik/Kagi. It used to be a Palp list but I instead swapped out those 8 points for other upgrades on Kagi, inspiring recruit, Rebel captive, and some other jank. Turns out mindlink doesn't work when your entire list is range one of Carnor. Which then doesn't get its range modifiers, and Kagi says hi to those K4 TLs. It did alright, going to have to try it again.

>>53960340
Also I watched a game where Sunny rolled three crits, which then became four. Needless to say the HWK did not survive. Sunny is honestly a pretty damn good use of 12 points.

So guys I keep seeing people talking about how great Integrated Astromech is, and I dont get it.

It's free, and that's nice, but at the same time being able to throw away the bonus from an astromech to negate one damage doesnt exactly seem mind blowing to me.
That said, I'm new so am probably missing something important - can anyone redpill me on IA?

>>53961677
It's essentially one extra hull for 0 points. You chuck the astro as a last resort

>>53959610
Night Beast and Backstabber, both with Tie Mk2, and 1 point initiative bid.

>>53961820
You also get to say "nope!" to any one critical hit.

>>53959610
Backdraft w/ FCS, pattern, frame, trick shot

Inquisitor w/ PtL, autos, title

Soontir w/ PtL, autos

Our group's trying out EotE for the first time time this weekend, none of us have any experience with the system. What are the most popular/accepted houserules or tweaks to look out for, or is vanilla perfectly fine?
Also I heard starship combat was a total mess?

>>53963394

Yeah, check out the OP for some starship combat fixes.

And it's not really a total mess - the problem is more than its just incredibly deadly, and if your ship goes that's probably a TPK and end of the campaign.

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Has anyone here tried this? Yay or nay?

>>53963795
Is that the D20 based skirmish game, where you alternate activating dudes? If yes, then it is fun for a while but most of the tactical options seemed to be determined by list building.

>>53963605
That seems like an easy fix, thanks.

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What is the most cumbersome (as in requires the most brawn to use) weapon in EotE/AoR/FaD? Our party has a droid who is gunning down a heavy weapons guy tree and he's wanting to wield the most unreasonably large weapon possible eventually. We're just starting out but he can get up to 4 now, 5 soon with burly, and more with mods. His tree has burly 2 more times which means he can get up to 7 without mods, 8-9 if he bumps his stats.

He's talking that he wants to literally rip a weapon off of a starfighter and use it.

>>53963964
I'm not sure, I'm having trouble finding info on it. Do you know any other skirmish systems for Star Wars? Doesn't have to be licensed, just looking for a good way to play Star Wars in a skirmish style game.

>>53964132
Imperial Assault is a Star Wars skirmish game.

>>53964163
Isn't it more of a boardgame? I was looking for something more akin to Kill Team or Shadow War: Armageddon.

>>53964132
There's the Wizards Star Wars miniatures game

>>53964177
It has 2 modes- Skirmish, and Campaign. Campaign is much more board-gamey, skirmish is closer to a traditional skirmish game. I've seen people make some pretty interesting scenarios for IA games.

>>53964177
IA skirmish is a skirmish game that just uses a grid board to play on. It's really good.

Squadron play in Armada is really annoying, I don't know how people play bomber lists for months on end. Everything's so clustered and imprecise.

>>53964238
I'll look into that, thanks!
>>53964246
That sounds really cool. I'll probably pick a box up soon, even if only for the miniatures. Sounds like a good game too.

>>53964071
the heavy repeating blaster, cumbersome 5 and packs a whallop
bonus points for being a space 50cal
normally mounted on a tripod, it would probably need a separate energy and coolant tank, so your character would roadblock from GI joe

some kind of double barreled blaster like the flamer-gun hybrid from aliens if you allow your players to fiddle with their equipment

>>53963605
The starfighters of adumar houserule compilation is very good. We use the dogfighting and shields rules and they work well.

Is there a /swg/ Discord?

>>53964719
>like the flamer-gun hybrid from aliens
That wasn't a hybrid, that was Ripley duct taping a flamer to a pulse rifle.

>>53967502

EotE doesn't have space tape yet does it?

I'm running a tie swarm this weekend for a store championship.

I hear the bog-standard list is Howlrunner, 2 omega pilots, and 3 black pilots all with crackpot, but I want to have some fun with it.

I haven't seen the math on it, can someone run some math on rage and focus versus normal howlrunner and focus?

Black crack, wampa, youngster with rage, scourge crack, mithel crack, Epsilon leader.

It might constrict me to a tighter dial when I go in to kill with rage, but Epsilon leader ensures I could do it every turn, or k-turn endlessly to combat defenders.

If I lose Howlrunner, I lose rerolls. If I lose youngster, I lose rerolls. Only difference is pilot skill and crackshot access. Although rage lets me get full refills at R1 and can activate if I detach a blocker.

>>53961677

Well, for a start, you only really use it for REALLY bad crits, or because to not use it would kill you. If it's a diferrence between losing a 1pt Astromech or a 21+ pt X-Wing, you'd take the Astromech every time.

Secondly, you choose to use it AFTER you see what a crit is. So, you can better choose when to use it.

Thirdly, it works on Kylo Rens ability. So you can prevent him from blinding your Poe right before an important attack.

Fourthly the Droid that gives you a free EPT slot has no real purpose past the squadron construction step of the game and you can dump that guy for an extra HP on demand whenever you like.

Plus, what ELSE are you going to put into that mod slot? Guidance Chimps maybe if you're running Torps?

>>53963394
The only houserules I can think of being common are the starship combat tweaks, either Shipfag's or someone else's, and making cover more effective.

EotE really isn't a mess nor is its starship fighting, it's just as >>53963605 said it's a deadlier system than people realize and starship combat is particularly deadly and when you first run it it's fairly confusing. Loads better than D6 and Saga's space combat though if you've ever played them.

>>53968642
I'll run the math when i'm not on a phone, but it's not mutch better, and that stress is *brutal*

You need crack to punch through most shit as well.

Lastly, if you are seriously trying to have a Kturn contest against a defender, you just lost. You need to flank those things to stop their action economy. If you let them 4k forever, focus+evade+3 defense dice means they will outlast you.

Is proxying cards for x wing frowned upon? I'm just starting out but I don't have the time and money to hunt down every physical card I would need

>>53968949
Ship combat sure looks pretty deadly. Ran EotE beginner box, and those TIE's at the end almost blew up that YT-1300. No idea if I forgot to check something or if things are really that hard on players.

>>53969304
And it only gets worse if the players DARE to fly anything smaller than a Firespray.

Thoughts on this? Will it make the starviper not shit?

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>>53969561
Forgot pic cause I'm a dummy

>>53969580

>Will it make the starviper not shit?

Yes.

As for my full thoughts on it, I sat in front of a microphone and recorded them which may be slightly better than trying to recount them here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l5mV8zlemk

>>53969283
I mean if it were me I'd just say proxy whatever upgrades you want. Not sure about your local scene and if you're doing an official event of course you need the real deal.

>>53964071
The HOB Heavy Repeating Blaster in Dangerous Covenants. Cumbersome 6, 10 encumbrance, 15 damage with pierce 2, at extreme range. It's so heavy, it fires from Gunnery.

Is Y-Wing out of production or just in short stock?

>>53969580
FUCK YEAH, LEAST WANTED

>>53968837

I didnt realise you could actively choose which thing to negate, so I guess yeah that actually makes it a pretty big difference.

MIght have to play with it a bit more then

>>53969580
I'm personally excited because I've always wanted the khiraxz to be better also the models look sexy, as per usual

>>53970625
Just short on stock. nothing is ever OOP.

>>53968642
>>53969269
Here are the numbers-

At range 2/3, you go from 1.83 to 1.875 hits on average.

At range 1, you go from 2.68 hits to 2.81 hits.
In exchange, you have a greater action dependency, a different howlrunner (Epsilon Leader instead of Howl) and a much more predictable dial.

I would stick with the howl+3 black crack +36 points of whatever, it's tried and true.

good suggestions include

- 3x Academy pilots
- 2x Omega Squadrons with Crack
- Scourge and Mauler with Crack
- Black with Crack and Zeta Leader with Crack.
- 36 or less points of ace.

>>53969283
Unless you're in a sanctioned event I would be blown away to meet anybody who gives a shit.

>>53972636
>>53969283
Even in a sanctioned event, you can likely borrow the cards you need from someone else. The only reason someone would say no is if you are asking for something like nothing but Palp/R3-A2 priced cards and they don't trust you.

a couple weeks ago, I mailed someone in this thread a copy of PTL because they needed one, and he was able to get someone to give him a copy of BB-8 at his first tournament.

It's not like the cards are worth much money aside from a few exceptions.

Should we try to set up some sort of card trading system?

>>53971917
Is crackshot really better than wired on zeta leader? What about including wampa?

I'm leaning on 3 black, mauler, scourge, howl a'll with crack, or 4 black crack, howl crack, zeta wired.

>>53973246
If you can afford a tech slot, wired is better. It's more of a late game card.

neither is better than the other. If you can afford Weapons Guidance, Wired is probably better though.

The reasoning behind this is that Zeta usually shoots first, and he has a focus. You'll probably only roll 1 focus most attacks. Rerolling it when you have a focus is just gambling, and unless there is a good payoff there (Weapons Guidance means you might save a focus, as if you roll it into a blank you will be fine) it's not worth it.

This does beg the question- Why not a comm relay for durability? Wired works here as a "oh shit I had to re-evade to turn my Comm relay back on" card here- more late game survival.

TLDR- Crack Shot for punishing people early game, Wired is late game but more situational.

>>53973436
Thanks for the analysis. What about wampa? Is it better to have the crackshot, or does his ability with a reroll make a difference?

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>fly two YT-1300's
>guy brings out Empire
>brings out the TIE/sf
>Six ship list
>mfw

Also why aren't we doing thread editions anymore

>>53974615
Well, how bad was it?

>>53973600
Wampa is 1 point cheaper, deals less damage on the alpha, draws more aggro, and is there to fuck corran horn's day up.

Whether Wampa is in there or not is up to you. I don't put him in that often, mostly because regen ships tend to be my "chase after this at first and crackshot it to death" choice, and without Palp (and old-palp at that) backing, Wampa is unreliable.

If you get fucked by regen aces or insane amounts of token stacking, put wampa in there. If you see shit like YT-XX00's a lot, wampa isn't that great.

>>53974615
That's a lot of points- My TIE/SF's cost 31 minimum, for a free-ept Omega Specialist with gear.

He had six ships? What was he running? Did you mean TIE/FO's?

>>53973046
I more just mean it's part of the rules of the game in tournaments. My experience parallels yours in that lending cards is very common. In Armada around here we do a lot of card/model lending (who actually wants to buy 4 Nebulons to play a gimmick list?).

A card trading system would probably be a good idea.

>>53973046
>Should we try to set up some sort of card trading system?

Nobody really wants to trade X-wing cards, but everybody seems totally okay with loaning and proxying. It's a bit weird, but it seems overall less toxic. Nobody is haunting organized play just to make advantageous trades with casual players that don't know any better.

>>53975666
Should we try making a google doc or similar? Make a want list of cards you need, and a list of cards you have spare?

As of now the only cards I need are Primed Thrusters and Thug Droids, but I have a lot of stuff I don't need- promo cards too.

>>53976134

>Have: Deadeye x15
>Want: Gencon Lando
>Willing to trade 1 to 2

Been there, done that.
No merit in the barter system. It's zero-sum.

>>53976079
Yea my friend asked to buy one of my cards that I have several copies of and hardly ever use and I still hesitated. I mean I wound up just giving it to him free but I guess I just like having a collection.

>>53976165
I meant more "here is shit I have if anyone wants it (ion projectors, PTL, VI, Stealth Device, assorted garbage), does anyone have these..." not really a barter system, more a 'pay it forward' type deal.

Either way, i'm only trying to get cards because while i normally provide all ships for my playgroup, we sometimes do go to tournaments, and I have to get cards for all 4 of our lists at once, lest someone is anal about it.

>>53976241
>i normally provide all ships for my playgroup

You are the problem.
Your playgroup is also the problem.

I don't mind, and apparently neither do you.
If you are affluent enough to support an entire group of X-wing players and not care, I can't see any reason why the extra handful of purchases should matter to you. Upgrades are mostly cheap and plentiful on eBay.

If you are not independently wealthy and you are supporting a playgroup you need to stop and never do it again.

If you are independently wealthy, hobby games simply don't matter as an expenditure no matter how profligate you care to be.

>>53976388
I built up my collection on my own while I was at college, and then moved and loaned out my collection to friends. I play more pickup games at my LGS than I do with friends, but since I have 95% of x-wing stuff among us, i let them borrow lists from me. Mostly since my collection is over 80% empire though, i lack some cards. Having this many TIES is good for hotac though.

What kind of paper do you print your proxy cards for x-wing? Is there a required standard you have to meet?

>>53976544
the paper needs to be THICC. Seriously though, I do cardstock.

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how special snowflake would it be to try to acquire a Conqueror class gunship as a player vessel?

>>53978263

I mean, I'm pretty sure they're statted in a few systems so it's not like it's unexpected.

>>53959708
Off the top of my head, just Warrior/Aggressor's Sarlacc Sweep.

>>53978263
Well, there are probably a score or two times as many knock-offs floating around as the real things, so I'd say that laying hands on a 95% close enough (that is, statistically identical) copy would be reasonably plausible for anyone who really tried, but laying hands on a 100% genuine model (without getting scammed) would probably be an involved adventure diving deep into the world of capital ship fences and their associates

So I've been playing a SAGA game as a Trandoshan smuggler. The GM let me start out with a ship and a very advanced droid as the crew (a very advanced fembot that my character won off a renegade scientist in a card game) who stays on the ship. The idea is he was the runt of the litter that barely survived childhood, and he hates all things traditionally Trandoshan.

My girlfriend is playing as a runaway teenage twilek padawan masquerading as a full Jedi as she goes around trying to find her old family.

It's been fun so far.

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>>53980355
That sounds like fun, what is the overall plot? The family thing? Also if palps wiped the jedi archives, what info does your girlfriend's character have to go on?

My players are:
>an ex clinetrooper turned bounty hunter, returned to soldier for the rebels
>a chiss smuggler thats outcast by the ascendancy
>a tech thats skipped out on his imperial dayjob with classified intel
>a noble whos family didnt agree with palp's new regime, and is now on the run
>a quirky r3 droid, who noone understands but the tech, since hes the only one who took binary.

They are supposed to be travelling to all the former separatist worlds to try and see if there are any old capital ships the rebels could scrap and use for their own fleet. It takes place right after yavin 4 so the rebels are really scattered in the race to establish echo base.

They just made it to vinsoth by escaping imperial interdiction forces, and decided that carrying cargo under a legitimate freight licence might save them some hassle with the Imps. The smuggler however decided that if he was hauling freight, he wanted to make real money, so he tried for illicit cargo. What happened next is completely SNAFU. and since combat rounds in saga are 6 seconds, BURNED DOWN a crack den/ryll den in about 7minutes top to bottom. Now they have the imps and space cartels chasing them.

they are the best, and did exactly what i thought they would

>>53981037
>what is the overall plot?
Something to do with a Sith holocron that a bunch of galactic players want.
>The family thing?
That's her own subplot
>Also if palps wiped the jedi archives, what info does your girlfriend's character have to go on?
Its set in the Old Repulic, not the Rebellion. She hasn't had much of a chance to dig into her own stuff yet.

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>>53976544
There are no standards.
>this is how I proxy

>>53981215
10/10
Do you take comissions?

>>53958617

>No Pteradon Shuttle
>No Resistance Transport
>No Ark Angel
>No Xanadu Blood
>No V-19 Torrent
>No A-Wing v2
>No Sith Infiltrator

Your poll is bad and you should feel bad about it.

>>53959610

3 Academy TIEs and creative accounting.

>>53959610
Omega leader with SD (or 3 bonus points), Comms, Juke, and 4 points to the rest of the list

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>>53958617

>They still beleive the Assault Gunboat will come!

>>53958617

It's going to be Krennic's Shuttle for definite. Mining Guild TIE's seem highly possible because they're from Rebels. Guns for Hire will be included with it, and then we'll get a random wildcard Rebels choice people wont see coming, or want.

A Rogue 1 aces box for Y-Wings and X-Wings will be teased during the run of spoilers for the above.

>>53958617

Wave 12 is

>N-1 Starfighter
>Krennic's Shuttle
>Ark Angel Heavy Lifter

Late reveal of

>Kylo Ren's TIE
>Resistance A-Wing or Resistance Bomber

>>53982542

Most of those are terrible ideas.

>>53958617

Something I thought of last night, pretty sure that if FFG wants to keep anything resembling parity of ship numbers between factions, with another movie release coming out Wave XII will need to be a two Scum release - because otherwise Scum will be like two ship count behind the other factions (over all), not accounting for how the Rebels also get one version of the H-6.

>>53982695
Ehh, not bad i guess, but where does it see play? 11 point academy spam? >>53982700
N1, if it does come out, will arrive alongside the V-wing.

I'll bet money the 6 missing SKU's are as follows-

New A wing, new Tie Advanced/interceptor, new First Order bomber, new resistance bomber, Scarif Veterans, Heroes of the Empire (maybe Inferno Squadron themed?)

Remember, TLJ got delayed, and we got a shitload of scum stuff at once- the missing SKU's are TLJ related.

>>53983471

He might be good in some sort of janky 5 TIE shuttle, all Tactician, all LWF swarm. With Sienar on one, you have 3 pts for other upgrades?

>>53983562
Rush Hour 2.0 isn't that interesting.

>>53982695

Make it a slightly bigger point reduction and make him Huge only.

Shove him on a Raider and bring a thousand ties.

>>53982695
Point reduction needs to be bigger- his double mods are only really useful on punishers and bombers, meaning he will end up eating a crew slot and only saving 1 point on average in most lists, all while requiring you to take a crew-capable ship. You can't even spam acadamies well with it- howl, a bomber, and 6 PS 1 TIEs is all you can fit, and that's just a worse pattiswarm.

He would have to be appearing in somevsort of bomber or punisher list to have any useful gimmick.

>>53984500
>>53983562
>>53982695
He needs to need to decrease the cost of mods on TIEs- most ties go modless anyways due to mods being inefficient points for them- why would you take a mod like shield/hull/engine/etc when TIE/fo's exist, and so on- mods are usually only taken on either very expensive large ships, or on small ships where the mods are auto-take (autothrusters, chips, IA, etc).

>>53982695

Can we talk about the elephant in the room and how that's not a picture of Raith Sienar?

So, Wraith Squadron epic game.

Wedge Antilles, Wes Janson, 4 Red Squadron pilots, CR90 corvette with ordnance tubes for the Loran Spitball.
I have no other specifics for it yet - other than maybe swapping out a couple of the X-wings for Sabine TIEs (proxying in a normal TIE model)

How can I get even more thematic my dudes

Quick question /swg/. Is there any rule that says you can't activate two Force powers in one turn? Like, if you have a Talent that lets you use one as a maneuver. Would you be able to use one as a maneuver and then use your action to make a different power check?

>>53985985

I think as long as you're able to spend the appropriate action/maneuver you can do it as much as you like - assuming the GM thinks it makes sense.

You can totally Leap as a maneuver into a lightning bolt.

Speaking of lightning bolts...

/swg/, how are you supposed to describe Unleash if they don't have/aren't using the Mastery upgrade? Cuz the Mastery upgrade is the only time they describe it as actual lightning. But there are also other upgrades that let you add Qualities. Sure, you can probably justify Unleash as whacking someone with the Force, but how would that attack have Ensnare? How could that attack have fucking Burn 2? And don't give me some 'force flame' bullshit, that's like the snowflakiest Star Wars thing I've ever heard.

>>53986210
Pure force energy. Although for burn I think pyrokinesis is warranted.

>>53986210

Perhaps at low levels it uses and amplifies the target's bioelectricity.
It gets Ensnare because the random rerouting and rejacking of their nervous system's impulses by their own body's electrical impulses causes their muscles to lock up.
If done with enough force, it can cause Burn as the impulses arc down paths they shouldnt.

With Mastery, it does that and then also allows you to draw from the force and throw in full blown lightning bolts to add into all that power you were using before

>>53986210

Well, judging by the Baran Do alt tradition in Disciples of Harmony, you could go the "warp native electricity route" and like, call bursts of current from nearby objects and environment.

But yeah, they call it "Unleash" so you don't have to think of it just as lightning, it can be whatever you want or need it. Bolts of black energy, white fire, radium-green energy that eats people like acid, w/e. I don't think the mastery upgrade is meant to imply it only hits full blown lightning at that point - just that you're reaching the power level of sith hate bolts of legend. All it does mechanically is reduce the crit rating.

>>53984565

Yeah, from a balance point of view I don't think Academy Pilots need to be cheaper. In fact, I don't think numbers are going to help Imperials in the current meta anyway.

So I just jumped back into this game, and holy shit theres a 3rd faction now? What ships are "must haves" now? The last expansion I bought was Imperial Aces

>>53986934

Jumpmasters, K-Wings and a Protectorate Starfighter. Maybe a Shadow Caster as well.

>>53978263
I'm assuming you're talking about FFG's RPG system. The stats for it actually exist, in Dangerous Covenants. It's Rarity 9, just make your players roll for it.

Alternatively, it's not -that- amazing of a ship stat wise, so giving one away is not a big deal. You could even make it a story point, obligation for managing to land a rare ship.

>>53986934

Imperial Veterans, TIE/SF and TIE/FO for imperials

K-Wings, Ghosts and Heroes of the Resistance for Rebels.

Scum are reliant on Jumpmasters, Protectorates and Shadowcasters atm.

3x Cutlass Sq. Pilot
>extra munitions
>cluster mines x2
>unguided rockets
>minefield mapper
>long range scanners

Start the game with 12 mines as obstacles, and pray they hit a couple.

>>53987774
This is way shittier than you think- it's useless as a build.

Spacebump

>>53987823
I don't think its going to win the Worlds, but I do think it might be fun to fly once or twice.

Wave XI on the boat

>>53967080
Also interested in a swg discord.

>>53981037
I like this picture.

Post more post endor star wars art.

>>53989844
Not really- if your opponent sees it, they will spread out on the deploy, or suicide a scrub/send in a 10HP ship to break through the fort, and then your 3 no-weapons (just unguided) punishers need to fight something like 2 aces+crippled palp shuttle, or Fenn+asajj+injured manaroo, etc.

>>53990183
When is it expected to go on sale then? 2 months from now? 1?

I should try to get a store champ win before then, because Azitucks and Scurrrrrgs are going to be a real PITA to deal with

Do any of the various pilot classes get any outside the ship stuff? I want to play a skilled pilot who's still able to shoot shit outside of a ship without having to wait several game sessions to pick up a second specialization.
We're playing EotE but allowing AoR stuff.

I don't need to be fantastic at combat, just have maybe one combat skill and dodge or sidestep or something.

>>53957497
X-wing question-

as a thought exercise / to generate discussion about MoV, I'm thinking of trying to win a local store championship with a 1-ship build-

My go plan is to make the Fattest Miranda something nearly 60 points. I'm talking

TLT
Advanced Slam
Sabine
Bomblet Generator
Cluster Mines
Extra Munitions
Homing Missile
and a torpedo (Ion torps? Advanced Proton? Plasma? Proton? I already have a homing missile so IDK)

I intend to try to kill 1 ship and then just SLAM like a retard away from fights/dropping Bomblets every round for the remaining portion of the 70 minutes.

Is this worth it? It's all a thought exercise to prove that MoV is a seriously flawed system.

I remember that someone did this at an Australian national/regional in 2015 with just PTL/Autothrusters/Stealth device Soontir and went 3/2 or something.

>>53991116
I'm pretty sure most pilot dedicate classes get at least one combat skill of some sort unrelated to ships since the pilot specializations tend to be offshoots of the combat oriented professions.

My brother bought EoE and he's putting a group together.
I've got my backstory mostly together, but I'm not sure what race and class would be fitting.
>Parents ran a library or a museum or something
>Empire executed them and razed their work to the ground under charges of Rebel Sympathy and Anti-Imperial propaganda
>set off to the stars to try to save historical artifacts and such from destruction so the Empire can't rewrite history, so to speak
>Obsession with artifacts is his Obligation
What do you think? Am I subconsciously making Nico Robin?

>>53991116
Squadron Leader is fun. It gets you Gunnery, as well as Field Commander shenanigans, without sacrificing being good at piloting.

>>53993235
Sounds like a Scholar to me, in the Colonist class. If you wanna know ALL THE FACTS, it's a good class to pick. IIRC they have every Knowledge except Warfare as a career skill. Not that good at things outside of their purview, however.

>>53993276
This group is going to need some brains in it anyway, but I still need to be able to hold my own in a fight, so I'm guessing ranged would be best for a scholar.

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>>53993235

>>53991567
This seems like it's something you would expect a podcast to have a bounty on.

Win a store championship with a single small base ship.

Actually, lets start this now. I'll place the bounty myself.

A custom playmat to the first person to do this- i'll start editing up a new one now, but I can always re-make an older one if someone does it this weekend or similarly soon.

>>53993320
Your style of combat doesn't necessarily have to be so constricted if you're playing a class that doesn't have any natural fighting skills.

>>53993528
That was my first thought before I thought of the dead parents, and I'm going to use that line at the first opportunity.

>>53993235
Archaeologist from Enter the Unknown

>>53993320
Ranged light is a bit of a no-brainer for most secondary combat characters.
>Pistols
>Grenades
>Bricks and bar stools
>Sharp objects

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>>53993235
>every tragic backstory involves the empire being evul for teh lulz mustache twirlers and dead parents redemption quests

Not knocking you here anon, but the idea itself is tiresome and way overdone. Some things can be too cliche and dumb even for Star Wars.

>>53995610

The dead parents thing sure, but at the same time the Empire did a lot of messed up shit.

Besides, putting people to death for Rebel sympathising and anti-imperial propaganda ist them being 'evil moustache twirlers' - you're thinking of Alderaan.

Putting people to death because they spread histories or information you dont like is something that real dictatorships do all the time, why does the Empire doing it make no sense to you.

>>53995756

Every government does messed up shit from time to time. Backstories making the Empire seem like a 24/7 edgy evil murderparty are what's stupid.

I think we're heading for another Empire v. Rebellion morality debate or at the least an Alderaan debate, and as fun as those are they have a tendency to draw in shitposters from both ends of the argument while neutral fag-nons endlessly moan and complain about Star Wars lore discussion in a Star Wars thread. It's more trouble than it's worth.

>>53995943

I mean, it's a huge galaxy with a lot of shitty local moffs / governors who want to exercise their control.
This isnt something where they just blew up a ship for fun, or glass a planet or whatever.
They shot some people who they view as terrorists and dissenters.

Hell it's some of the least 'edgy evil murderparty' reasoning ive seen.


And, much as people dont like it, the Empire did a lot of fucked up shit.
Whether you think it was justifiable or not, whether you think they're the good guys or not, they killed a *lot* of people.
For some of those people to have been the PC's parents isnt exactly a stretch.

That said I do agree that yet another argument about the morality of the Empire is pointless and retarded.

Another Store Championship in the books. Here's what I ran.

T-70 X-Wing: •Poe Dameron (HotR) (45)
Autothrusters (2)
•Black One (1)
Push the Limit (3)
•R2-D2 (4)
Pattern Analyzer (2)

A-Wing: •Jake Farrell (33)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Push the Limit (3)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Proton Rockets (3)

TIE Fighter: •Ahsoka Tano (22)
•Captured TIE (1)
•Sabine's Masterpiece (1)
Veteran Instincts (1)
•Rey (2)

Total: 100/100

I got 2nd this time, my only loss being in the final. That's 4th, 3rd, and now 2nd in Store Champs this season. All I'm missing is the trophy.

Anybody experimented with the new Armada cards? I played a few games last night with External Racks on some Raiders and it was fucking awesome. Combined with Ordnance Experts and some good positioning, they've very dangerous.

>>53957497
Playing my 4th attempt through KOTOR2. So far I haven't lost interest but damn is it slow going. I played and beat KOTOR 1 in under a week. Why is this game so dull?

>>53997730
Because the game was rushed as shit and it shows.

>>53997764
>>53997730
Also because Chris Avellone and company tend to get absorbed up their own asses when they write. Usually, they tone things down or at least create a gradually escalating ramp of ass-sorbtion, as in Bioshock Infinite. KOTOR 2 goes right up its own ass within the first hour and stays there.

>>53997730
It was rushed as fuck and Avellone tried to rub his dick all over it.

>>53997730
I hope you're playing KOTOR II with the Restoration Mod. That adds all the good story content they cut from the game due to being rushed as fuck, plus it fixes a shitload of bugs they left in after patching out the most critical bugs and glitches

>>53997146
How did that 45 point Poe do? in lists where I have ~40 points left over i keep trying to add in poe, but I always have to cut something down from that build. How useful was the PS 9?

>>53998620
He was great. PtL and pattern analyzer means I get double actions and no stress on greens at PS9, plus whatever extra action ahsoka gives me. Focus/lock on every attack is very consistent and a PS Infinity boost with black one helps minimize the impact of ordnance.

>>53995943
See, no one makes a fuss when the Imperium purges xenos and heresy, but if the Empire does it it's gotta be a huge debate

In this case, rewriting history and wiping out anti-Imperial rhetoric is canon as fuck

>>53997730
It does a really poor job of setting the stage, from what I remember. Starting off on an abandoned mining station vs. hiding out on Taris are like night and day for introducing you to the galaxy.

>>53998773
>>53998620

I've had similar results from goin PTL - BB8 - Primed Thrusters - IA with PS9 Poe. You trade regen for extra movement options but it's tremendous fun.

>>53999216
I can't wait for intensity to get realised to run it with this build instead of ptl

>>53998773
So how useful was the PS 9 vs the PS8? How useful was Black One?

I have a 42 point hole to fill (Bringing a Superdash) and I'm not sure what type of ship I should bring. I could run PA+R2d2+PTL+Autos, or maybe run IA instead of Autos.

Inb4 Miranda, I don't have a K-wing.

>>53964719
Can confirm, played a Heavy, used a heavily modded version of that.
The HOB is okay, I guess.

>>53999330
PS9 is good to go after Omega Leader. Black One is huge against ordnance and Omega Leader, plus is a bit of a check to the efficiency of FCS.

Without Ahsoka you'll be in for a rough go against scum alpha, so PS8 is probably sufficient. Definitely always rock autos.

>>53999478
I was thinking PS8+Lone Wolf+Sensor Cluster+Autos+Black One.

The issue there is that Lone Wolf means I would effectively never use Black One to remove a lock from Dash.

Would you think that this is a good use of the 42 points leftover to hang out with a Superdash?

>>53999506
That looks fine. I'm not crazy about it but my buddy uses Norra with Dash. I'm toying with the idea of Ahsoka running with Dash plus a cheap A-Wing running around.

>>53999806
The PS8 to me i'm thinking might be an issue- is running VI instead of Lone Wolf a good idea?

That way I can boost after OL locks me, and less opportunity cost with being close to Dash to remove locks from him.

>>53995610
>murdered parents too cliche and dumb for starwars
>when that's literally the plot of starwars

Whew.

My FLGS is selling starvipers for about $11 a piece, should I buy two packs for the autothruster cards?

>>54000997
Buy 2, just because in a couple of months wen Guns For Hire comes out, it's a serious list.

Also Autothrusters are good to have, and around $8 each online.

>>53963795
I miss the wizards mini game so fucking much

>>54000971
>every character needs to be the same

>>54003023
I know i mentioned it earlier, but would giving every TIE interceptor PTL for free without using an EPT slot, alongside allowing a discount hull upgrade as an extra mod, fix the ship?

Every single Interceptor takes it, and if they can't they are relegated into garbage.

It both makes them better and opens up their builds for more flexible options. Want to take Juke or Predator or the like? Now you can without gimping yourself. Want to run Alphas, avengers, or sabres? Now you can. Kir Kanos isn't garbage. Aces not named Fel and Jax might see play. Autothrusters are already auto-take, but letting them also take hull at a discount actually gives them some decisions to make regarding taking mods on PS 5 or lower ships.

Thoughts?

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Hey /swg/, what are some good NPC's to keep in mind for the starting world of a Edge of the Empire game? I've filled out the gallery pretty well, from arms dealers to black market doctors, but what are some essential underworld or legal figures that any world needs?

>>54003193

I mean, interceptors do really need action economy to work - or they need just fucking more of them (which doesn't work in the 100/6 format).

I suspect FFG will not go that route necessarily, but an effect to give them more without using an EPT slot, or the ability to gain an EPT slot (and maybe not doubling up if you already have one so it's not A-Wing Test Pilot) would not go awry I think.

That, or we need an AT like upgrade which can mitigate bomb damage (and probably also mitigate obstacle effects, since AT has multiple uses).

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>>53957497
/SWG/ Discord when?

>>54003337

I'm going to hold on to this image for reasons.

>>54003296
Even without bomb-cancer everywhere, only Jax and Fel saw any use, and Jax only when token stacking went too far.

Due to the first ept slot on an interceptor being the most valuable one (since PTL is MANDATORY) It's not exactly gamebreaking.

Interceptors were clearly designed around PTL, but with only half of them even able to equip it, they are better off being replaced by Backstabber or the like for the points. (Green hard turns go to waste without PTL, as does having 4 actions on the bar)

>>54003514

Early wave design is nuts. The EPT slot was clearly always super valuable - and that makes a lot of veteran players kind of mad that a lot of modern ships (especially in scum) get low PS EPTs but at the same time it is so clearly important that they do so a lot of the time. Otherwise you end up with the "Who the fuck flies generic interceptors?" problem.

Early X-Wing took that Elite thing way too far. Though I've heard that historically FFG designs the highest PS aces with their abilities first, then reduces down to generics so maybe that is why you get so goofy and bad with a lot of early ships generics.

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>>54003337
I'd be on one if we had one.

>>54003624
That's why i'm thinking PTL for all Interceptors and a discount Hull Upgrade as an option is a good fix-

Now you can put Predator or Juke or something on your Interceptors without saying "this is a joke list/made by a monkey with a handful of darts"

By doing this, you remove effective mandatory choices that aren't just "we needed more rules text" cards (TIE/SF and ARC titltes, etc) and actually let them decide what they want in their EPT slots if they have them, and get PTL for viability if they don't.

>>54003208
It'd really vary planet by planet. The only constant I can think of in the Imperial era is that the majority of civilized worlds outside of Hutt Space would have Imperial governing officials.

>>53982542

Look at all this prequel era garbo.

>>53982636

Why would Imperials need ANOTHER shuttle?

>>53959610
A TLT Aggressor with Lightweight Frame

Yes, I know it's 25 points. Enjoy.

>>54004178

Especially about a year after they got what should be a pretty good one.

>>54003337

Werent people posting one a while back?
I meant to join and then lost the damn link.

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>>53995610
>>53995943
Fuck off Hux.

>>54004229

Launch the shuttle squad.

Lambda Shuttle
TIE Shuttle
Upsilon Shuttle
Krennic Shuttle

Imps should get another large base soon, but it needs to be an aggressive one, not support.

>>54004280
I was at an X-Wing tournament and I asked a guy how was flying with Ginger Hitler on the Upsilon. He was confused until I corrected myself to General Hux and he laughed.

>>54004316

Sentinel-class lander, now with missile slots and rear firing arc. Most costly than a lambda but even more tough - we don't need tech slots just more secondary slots. We'll even give it two so you can have a large base run UG and self-Hux.

Comes with obligatory Thrawn crew card and ability to actually turn around.

>>54004365
For all the memeing Hux is legit one of my favourite dudes and I look forward to him hamming it up in the coming films.

>>54003208


For legal, local Imperial Governors, local imperial security officers and agents. Customs agents and dockyard admin types.

For underworld, you'd need fixers, slicers, ship-jackers.

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Why haven't you avenged the Empire /swg/ ?

>>54005193
I do every day- Crack Swarm is love, crack swarm is life.

>>54005193
I just realized that MoeTrooper would have been a better filename
Shit.
Anyhow, how do you feel about the nucanon and the fact that they're bringing back Sheev yet again in NuBF2's singleplayer, or just how nucanon is just affecting your campaign in general.
I've just been ignoring it entirely and just cherry picking what I like from each.

>>54005382
>I've just been ignoring it entirely

Sums up my thoughts on nucanon in general. I have no interest in it out of games and in games I never touch on it or consider it. EU 4 lyfe. And before anyone calls me a fanboy I ignore the shitty things in the EU as well, like Force Un-leashthisshittotheboilerinthebasementandneverletitoutbecauseforceunleashedistheworstthingeverconceived.

>>54004280
>le ebin funny hux mem xD

>>54005577
Ironically enough, The TFU Sourcebook is the one I pull the most from.
That, Scum and Villainy, and Galaxy at War.
I'm sure I'm like one of the few people still running saga edition.

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>>54005594
How many backrubs does Phasma promise for each time you say Alderaan had it coming?

>>54005577
>>54005679

Same, to be honest. TFU had some pretty fun ideas amidst all the crap.

Alright, I'm buying Imperial Assault tomorrow. Any tips? Any high priority models I should pick up as well?

>>54003337
https://discord.gg/vq4jUb7

>>54005193
Because I'm a Rebel.

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>>53957497

Anyone have any good Star Wars maps? I'm looking for Imperial bases in particular.

>>54003337
I just listened to the Thrawn audiobook and I wanna say this is perfect.

>>54005862

Dont start it again, please

>>54004316
One more shittle - TIE Reaper

>>54003337
Are nucanon Chiss heads supposed to look weird or is that just a result of the Filoni cartoons' weird art style?

>>54006111
I like ISB agents and Captain Terro.

>>54006545
Yeah I was looking at both if those actually. The agents look really cool, and Ive always loved the idea of stormtroopers riding dewbacks. Are they good gameplay-wise?

>>54004178

They don't, but Disney are going to want them to put it in.

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So, my character has 3 ranks of Burly, which reduces the encumbrance of weapons by 3. If I have an encumbrance 6 weapon, would it be able to fit inside Integrated Holsters?

>>54006721

I'd assume not - the gun itself is still encumbrance 6, you can just ignore up to 3 points of that.

>>54006594
Terro is tier 1 for Empire. Stuff you need for IA besides the core:

>Rebels
3PO and R2, Alliance Rangers, Echo Base Troopers, Hera and Chopper

>Empire
Terro, Blaise, Jabba's Realm (Jet Troopers), BT-1 and 0-0-0

>Scum
Jabba's Realm, Jabba, IG-88, Jawa, Bantha, 3PO, Hera, Chopper

>>54004280
>>54005862
saying "lel fuk off hux" when someone likes the empire is like saying "lel fuk off mothma" when someone likes the alliance or "lel fuk off greevus" when someone likes the confederacy

it's stupid and should stop

>>54002074
>i'll make up implications. That'll show'em

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>>53957497

What are some unique ideas for Inquisitors? I'm about ready to sick one on my party, but I'm a little short on ideas.

>>54008285
You could always go for the /swg/ classic and look at villains from the Metal Gear series for inspiration.

>>54008752
>inquisitor who wears absurdity skimpy outfits and specializes in killing Jedi who want to redeem her with their dicks

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>>54008285
Clouseau
>Bad French accent
>Terrible disguises
>Prone to insane accidents and somehow surviving
>Has Space Bruce Lee as his man servant
>By dumb luck more than good management actually finds things/people

>>54009201
She kills people with their dicks?

>>54009201
>>54009409
Is it possible to learn this power?

>>54009683
Not from a blue board.

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>>54009201
>>54009409
>beating a man to death with his own severed dick
[Extended Screaming]

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>>54009885

>>54009356
>jedi party interacts with man speaking in horribly forced and fake canadian accent
>he's wearing a trenchcoat and groucho marx glasses
>at some point in their quests or dialogue with him he says "jedihidingfrominquisitorsayswhat?"
>"uh what-"
>he rips off the glasses and trenchcoat "AHHH-HAH! HON HON HON I HAD YOU FOOLED YOU SMELLY JEDI SCUM"
>"not this shit again"

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Had my AoR players take an Imperial rocket assembly plant with an infantry company. They felt like the session was a bit on the easy side until I had four of these fuckers show up. The party's stealth guy ate an auto-fire volley during the breach and clear. The Marauder had to run through a hail of bolts to extract the incapacitated stealth guy while the Trailblazer gave sniping cover and took sniper rounds himself. The Instructor was shouting words of encouragement to keep everyone going. She survived an auto-fire volley by grabbing a nearby droid as a shield. In the end, the Marauder and Trailblazer escaped with 1 WT left, thanks to Trailblazer's AoE that gives friendlies bonus soak while in cover.

1/3 of the allied infantry company was killed in this mess.

I actively sought to kill at least one PC. They did well this day.

>>54010744
The 501st are drinking cups of rebel tears this day.

I couldn't find a bookmarked version of Forged In Battle, so I made one, anyone care enough for me to upload it?

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>>54003337
>Ensign Vanto, what is the word for 'booty'?

Jesus christ I love it

>>54008248
Sounds like good shit posting material. I'll keep this in mind.

>>54008248
I only do it when you defend genocide or try to police people into protrying a squeaky clean regime Hux.

>>54012588
>genocide

do we really need to have another alderaan argument

>squeaky clean regime

i've never seen anyone argue the empire as squeaky clean, not even the most diehard of empirefags. what i have seen is the argument that the empire was good and was only the villain by opposing the protagonists, or at least that the empire was better than the rebellion when all things were considered and weighed together.

both of those arguments are made pretty damn well too and the only things anyone ever says to refute them are
>hux
>alderaan
>space opera
>fascist
none of which refute the original points and aren't really valid arguments to begin with, alderaan being the closest

>>54012654
You can't really refute somebody who isn't saying anything logical.

>>54012711
>The Empire was overall a better organization than the Rebel Alliance.
or
>fuk off hux

Hm, which sounds more logical..

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Rev up those bingo cards, boys.

>>54012654
Well we could argue about that burning pile of Jawa corpses to if you want.

And this all started because someone (probably you) took umbrage with the Empire killing some parents in someone's backstory.

>>54012820
>Well we could argue about that burning pile of Jawa corpses to if you want.
Jawas that according to the EU refused to allow the sandtroopers to search for the droids and then became defensively violent and attacked them.

>>54012852
We've done this before Hux if you get to use any EU material you like then the Empire kills even more people and becomes a manufacturer and user of bio weapons.

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>>54012852
>Attempting to search and seize private property without the owner's consent
>Violating the Space NAP

>>54012894
Yeah they do, in the handful of stories that involve those things and even then they're actions carried out by rogues or hardliner characters in badly written stories that are poorly received by critics and most fans didn't like. Star Wars has a level of pick and choose to its lore.

>>54012852
>according to the EU

well its a good thing we're leaving it

>>54012945

>we're

How would people think about the following fix?

>S-Foils
>Mod
>X-Wing + B-Wing only

>You may equip one additional Modification Upgrade

>When you receive a Focus or Evade token you may perform a free Boost or Barrel Roll action. If you do, flip this card.

SIDE B

>You may equip one additional Modification Upgrade

>At the start of the combat phase you may receive a Weapons Disabled Token, if you do Flip this Card at the end of the turn.

>0pts

I'd have made a mockup on Strange Eons but it's on fritz right now.
What do people think?

>>54012750
Definitely fuck off hux. The fact that you may indeed be an actual fictional space nazi come to life is more rational than you actually thinking the Empire was better by any metric or definition of the word. The only thing they were better at was losing wars they had the advantage in.

>>54012916
You're they guy who was trying to correct the film with ANH novelisation aren't you?

>>54013000
>when you get so peeved that you resort to insults and baiting

It's gold when some people get so personally buttmad over someone else on the internet supporting a fictional space government from pre-ancient history

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>>54012916
>poorly received by critics and most fans didn't like
Vague and arbitrary. Who are you to speak for the majority of the fanbase and which critics are you citing? And what of the events that aren't well-received but still taken as "canon" by the vast majority of later works and authors? The books dealing with the Caamas Crisis weren't smash hits, but every Legends work written after them assumes the crisis still happened.
>pick and choose
Then what's the point? If every side of the argument can cherry-pick, circlejerk over confirmation bias, and plug its ears when something goes against its narrative, then this argument goes nowhere, as it has always done in these threads.

>>54013092
>this argument goes nowhere, as it has always done in these threads

Internet arguments never change anyone's minds, they only entrench fags in their own arguments and embitter them.

Every time these arguments begin and end in earnest no one sees anything different and be you an Imperial or Rebel fag all you gain is bitterness for the other guy and more bias in your own viewpoints.

Not gonna baw about lore discussion - I welcome it - but I'd like to see lore discussions that lead somewhere. The Empire good/bad debate has existed since the 70s and has only ever accomplished making everyone hate each other and shove their heads further up their own asses. There's just no point to argue one way or the other.

>>54013118
You are correct that these arguments never really go anywhere. Therefore I propose we move to the more productive task of assigning blame. Personally, I blame Tie Fighter for infecting defenceless young minds with the idea that flying a Tie Fighter is cool. End suicide simulators!

>>54013283
Reminder to all you factionfags that every soldier who dies in Star Wars was a person with their own lives, friends, loved ones, ambitions and dreams, so when you sadists cheer as Stormtroopers get gunned down or applaud as Rebel soldiers get blown up just remember all of them were people. End space violence 2017.

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>>54012974

Done.

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>>54013451

>>54013467
>The S-Foils are open

What did he mean by this?

>>54013345
>End space violence
Unless it's aimed at Bothans. Fuck Bothans. Bothans are dicks.

I want to try Armada. What expansoins are top tier for the Rebels and what are Lesat Wanted?

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Did someone want space violence?

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>>54013723
Well, you can't have a star war without space violence.

>>54013475

I don't have a decent picture of an X-Wing with it's S-Foils closed is what I mean by it.

>>53975529
>>53975416
It was:
1x Academy Pilot
1x Obsidian Squadron Pilot
1x Zeta Specialist
1X Epsilon Squadron pilot
1x Zeta Squadron pilot
1X Saber Squadron pilot

No upgrades
And the game was over in like 20 min; I got annihilated

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We are going to start playing a Force and Destiny campaign and I am thinking about playing a Seeker Hermit to be kind of a beast tamer. Hard part is how difficult it is to use my powers on beast. To create a bond the animal needs to be the size of half my force rating, and a horse is at least 2, so I need a 4 Force Rating. Forget about even trying for a Bantha or something bigger, I'd need a rating of 8. I'm having a hard time finding critters of size 1 that I would be able to keep at a pet as is.

Is this not a class I'd want to start a character on and maybe down the line take it as my second class? Guess I could be a normal jedi on horseback but it is less exciting not having that bond.

>>54014657
He had an empty EPT slot then.

Really silly list.

>>54014773
The Seeker spec book discusses the idea of starting with a baby animal of an appropriate silhouette, then you can maintain that connection as it grows beyond your technical limits. I think that was a suggestion though, so you'd still need to run it by your GM.

>>54014657
Wut?

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!211:-1,-1,-1:-1:-1:;10::-1:-1:;11::-1:-1:;184:-1:-1:-1:;183:-1:-1:-1:;25:-1:-1:-1:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron&obs=

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>>54016581
>>54014657
That's one of the silliest lists I've ever seen.

I need art that evokes factory, and remote imperial outposts

>>54020544
This reminds me- When I get a raider soon (just got a new job!) i'm thinking of how to paint it.

Would First-Ordering a raider look cool? White for the inner solar panels, black and red on the main body- Would that look good?

>>54020634

Honestly with that expanse of red paint (the thing's big) it might look a bit overwhelming.

>>54018964
I know nothing about the game but I like hearing about silly things from any game. Why is that such a silly list?

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>>54020544
>>54020634
I'd love to see a Raider done up in 206th Sq colors

>>54021525

Those are good colors.

>>54021239
The list looks like it was made by just choosing 1 of each type of tie and not taking any upgrades- even free ones. No duplicates, no upgrades, all of the pilot skills are different- It's strange as fuck looking on the table as well.

>>54021525
Cool scheme, but I'm not doing dazzle camo.

>>54021047
Likely I would do 1/2 red stripes down the body, and then do the rest of the ship black, with white solar panel interiors.

I'd also have to find some DUST Tactics guns to steal from some model so that I can attach them to the underside of the Raider- I'm modding most of my ships with those.

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Since the TIE Striker is primarily a ground attack TIE i want to paint mine up in WWII ground attack camo. I can't decide in which nationality though so i leave that up to you guys.

German, Japanese, Soviet or Brittish?

>>54022375
the german pattern with it's straight lines kinda feels more imperial to me

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>>54014001
Bitch

>>54023642

Do you have one of a B-Wing with it's S-Foils locked?

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So, since we all know something like this is coming, here's my idea as to what form it could be.
I figure he'd ship with a new type of Cluster Ion Bomb Mine hybrid.

Ways of forcibly adding Weapons Disabled tokens to things might be the next big mechanic for the game too. So we could be getting things like Heavy Ion Cannons that do this, or Buzz Bots that might have this ability. I'm not sure, it'd need to be balanced as being hard to do.

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>>54024244

There's a few shots of them setting up for the battle of Endor, but theyre flying past at high speed or like so.
The only good shot is as theyre opening their s-foils.

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>>54024244

Unless you dont mind a landed one from Rebels.

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>>54024670
nah that's fine

In the meantime, I've revised Jaxxon a bit. What do we think?

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New Updated Armada FAQ and Squadron rules.

I haven't had time to take a look, anything ground breaking or game changing?

>>54024936
crazily OP.

>>54025166
So perfect for scum, then

>>54025013
>anything ground breaking or game changing?

Rhymer is short range now, Demolisher can't shoot after Engine Teching, Turbolaser Reroute Circuits are exhaust to use, Rieekan is once per round, and you can't put your commander on a flotilla anymore.

So yes, plenty of game changing.

I'm wanting to try painting some of my x-wing ships, any advice on how to not fuck things up and what materials I'll need?

>>54024936
>>54025166
>>54025306
Is this a legit card?

>>54026782
No, it's fan-made. The wording is off, and it's not modern art.

Also, the balance is atrocious.

>>54026704
What type of ships, and to what extent?

Mostly you need a small brush and good paint.

for most non-super-cool paintjobs, just get some Citadel paint from your LGS and a couple incredibly fine brushes.

Rememer when painting, you should thin your paint to the point that it is over 50% water.

If you are in the chicagoland area, I have a spare brush set and a bunch of paint that's sitting around, since I finished repainting my fleet.

You can always go to the /wip/ general and ask for advice.

Also, tip for empire repaints- The GW/Citadel color 'Mephistion Red' is the exact same shade as Royal Guard/Glaive Squadron ships.

>>54026919
>Also, the balance is atrocious
That's what made me question it, that'd be way too good of a card

>>54026968
>What type of ships, and to what extent?
I'd work on my spare ships, so x-wings, starviper, a-wings, tie fighters, and maybe a few others. I really don't like the color scheme of the tie defender from the imperial aces pack so definitely that one.

>If you are in the chicagoland area
Thanks for the offer but I'm in the south

Thanks though anon, I'll keep what you said in mind!

>>54027356
Do you have an LGS near you that has 40k players? You can always ask them for help painting (assuming they have well-painted collections) as well.

>>54027053
Imagine this on a PTL-carring Lancer (asajj) that has had a long fight against Kylo or just got a good combination of cards-say you have 3 face down and 3 face up damage cards. Sure, you have 1 HP, but you have 6 attack and 5 agility on a 2 action chassis with a mobile arc.

If scum gets a ship that has 2+ crew besides the YV-666, you also get to add Gonk to this hellhole.

Or give this fucker to Tel Teruava. Come back to life, make yourself have 6 red dice on a turret with 100% consistency.

>>54024936
What does this character do/what type of card are you trying to make? I could help you come up with something fair/balanced.

>>54027514
The nearest LGS to me is about an hour away but I'm planning on visiting one of them this weekend. I'll see if I can chat with someone and get a few tips, thanks anon

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>>54026704
Don't try for anything inordinately complicated or fiddly when you first start off, keep it really simple and maybe just change the colour of some of highlights, throw a thin wash over the bits you want darkened, dry brush back in highlights with pale colours etc.

Starting off, get your primary colours, a black and a white. Thin, fine detail brush, one thats about 2-33x bigger for dry brushing, water container and something to mix the paints on- old interior tiles or plates work well

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>>54027884
>2-3 x bigger
woops, 33x bigger might be a bit much

>>54027884
Hey not him but does one have to prime the x-wing miniatures or is it alright to just paint straight on there.

>>54017499
Hm, I like that thanks. I'll have to see if he will let it happen.

>>54028883
They've already been primed and painted, so if you do paint over the top make sure its super thin to avoid any lumpy bits or rough patches.
If you're going to make a really serious go of a complete re-paint back to bare plastic you can soak them in some paint remover* and wash it off with something like a toothbrush

>*Avoid nastier automotive style paint removers: pineoclean, dettol or simple green are mild enough not to eat your mini

>>54027581

>What does this character do/what type of card are you trying to make? I could help you come up with something fair/balanced.

I was trying to make something completely stupid because it's Jaxxon the Jackrabbit, teh pregenitor of Bucky O'Hare and Apogee Games Jazz the Jackrabbit and was created by Lucasarts and Marvel Comics to remind people that Star Wars isn't meant to be taken seriously.

Another idea I had was a reverse Letts Razzi, where you could remove stress from your target to add one <hit> result to your attack dice results. Make it Firing Arc only.

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>>54030101
Jax is maybe a bit obscure for most of the newer crowd- however...
Make a Jar Jar card!
You have Jar Jar on your ship, there's a 50% chance he causes something accidentally terrible to happen to the enemy ship, or a 50% chance that something terrible happens to your ship.

Plus you can slap that sucker down and just watch the veins throb in temple of neckbeards from across the room, tables will be thrown, random shrieking and gnashing of teeth.

>>54030400
>Running a campaign
>Discussing different race options with the group
>I absolutely love gungans
>the closest thing to a That Guy of the group cannot stand gungans

Is there any reason NOT to make every NPC a gungan?

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>>54030543
That might be a bit obvious, but having some "Gungan friends" on their ship as the crew might be totally within the realm of possibility.
http://www.jar-jar-binks.com/translator.jsp
Enough bombad's, messas, do-doos and other fucked up gunglish should have him broken in a matter of hours

>>54030400
>>54030543
>>54030634
Jar Jar is the key to Star Wars itself. Gungans are the single most important race in the entire mythos and every event past, present, and future is decided by them. Really the new lore should just make everyone Gungans, specifically Jar Jar.

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>>54030400

Oh god. That's it. This is who they're going to give Imperials as their Bomb Guy.

>Senator Binks
>Crew
>2pts

>Gain 1 Bomb Upgrade Icon in your Upgrade Bar

>If a [bomb] upgrade instructs you to discard it, you do not.

>At the Start of your Activation Phase, roll an Attack Die. If your roll a [Blank] Result you MUST drop 1 bomb token upgrade. If you roll a [Crit] or [Focus] result you MUST drop 1 bomb token upgrade using your front guides.

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>>54031099
>Rounding up the last round of Xwing, 4chens people's champion Chumbalaya is down to his last ship vs 5 TIEs of the FFG Defender
>This is it for the world title viewers
>He's taking his time thinking about it
>Too much time one might say for someone about about to get his arse beaten harder than the stormtroopers on Endor
>Eaten?
>Yeah, that too

>Not sure if arse eaten is in the rules, but there it is folks... he's played it
>...he's played what? Oh no, not that!
>When you've got nothing less to lose, oh damn look at that roll
>Crowds not happy, in fact I think someone's just thrown a punch up there
>All 5 TIES, one Jar Jar bomb.
>Well damn, FFG Defender isn't happy
>*table gets flipped*
>rrreeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>Oh god!
>He's hit the 4chen people's champion with a steel chair to the back of the head!
>Its a riot out there!
>Someone get the referee!
>He's knocked out too

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>>54031694

>>54031694

Speaking of the 4chans people's Champion, did we ever work out what sort of thing we wanted Tri-Occulus to do?

>>54031767
Something involving three and focus results/tokens.

A shareable Rey that can't be charged up but starts with 3 tokens on it was my suggestion.

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>>54031694

And done.

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>>54031842
Feels good man!

>>54003337
In the most belated fucking response ever, there is a /SWG/ discord I'm just terrible at shilling it.
https://discord.gg/0tNbYFoSaTUv8ryJ

>>54031842
I would remove the hit/crit means that you need to drop a bomb outof your front, for both balance and for font size.

Also, remove the blank line between the "get a bomb slot" and "don't discard bombs"

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>>54032138

Nah, dropping bombs out of the front is fine.

I mean, mechanically speaking, you drop a Proton Bomb like that at just the wrong moment you're fucked, but the gameplay is sound.

Basically infinite bombs. But it's Jar Jar who is controlling the button.

Anyway, I've cleaned up some of the text a bit along with the formatting. How does this look?

>Jar Jar and Vader on the same Decimator
>I'm not saying it would be a good combo gamewise
>I'm just saying it would be funny
>"Heyyo! It'sa MEESA! Jar Jar Binks on this eighta hour journerino to Sullust!"
>Vader: [DO NOT WANTING INTENSIFIES]

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So IIRC, on at least one occasion in Legends, a bunch of Jedi channeled their power into one other Jedi to temporarily supercharge a Force power, albeit at the cost of the latter's life. Seeing as those Jedi were, to my knowledge, still rookies, would it be plausible for a more experienced Jedi to survive performing the Force equivalent of a Spirit Bomb? And is there any non-Dark Side precedent for normies being able to give their energies, however meager, to that sort of bullshit? It's for a lighthearted, campy sort of FaD campaign so no need to be super serious about Force shenanigans.

>>54032235
Just a spelling mistake- Senator

>>54032471

To be fair, Jar Jar pronounces it this way.

>>54030543

Take themn to a water world.
Imply it'll be Quarren or Mon Cals theyre dealing with, so they go in prepared for making ITS A TRAP jokes.

Then spring the Gungans on them.

Silly smuggler, you thought it would be a fish?

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>>54033163
>Party expects squeaky clean ocean world
>Get Gungans and Space Louisiana or Space Everglades instead
Not the anon you're replying to, but consider this idea stolen.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/6/27/genesys/

Looks like FFG is planning on selling more dice, they're releasing a generic version of the system they use for Star Wars it seems. Wonder if it'll have any mechanical tweaks applicable to SW?

>>54022099
So it's the equivalent of running rainbow with nothing but 1ofs goodstuff in card games?

>>54035403
yeah, it would be the equivalent of running a MTG deck comprised solely of 1-drop spells of a bunch of different colors.

>>54035549
my followup question: Would that list actually function here? Because it sounds like a fun list.

>>54035613
a better summary would be a mono- or dual color deck that has no duplicate cards, still only comprised of 1-drops.

It would work a lot better if you took more of the same ships, or more of the same Pilot skill at least.

It's not a bad list, but it's not good.

A more traditional swarm of multiples of the same ship is probably better for empire.

Rebels and scum tend to have more of the "random mix of ships", but they are also more reliant on upgrades.

>>54034931
Good to see there's no force die equivalent, means they're not trying to completely shoe-horn SW mechanics where it may not fit.

Part of the basis of why it's so easy to hit somebody else is the fluff claim of targeting computers being to good, as well as the general design goal of emulating the feel of the movies. So with those limitations off, and the inclusion of the Steampunk/Weird War/Modern Day settings (where it's harder to justify the hand-wave of awesome targeting computers), it could potentially mean that there's some vehicle combat adjustments that makes smaller vehicle piloting more survivable. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily hold my breath, but the potential is there.

>>54033163
>making it's a trap jokes
>turns out it is the players who have had the trap sprung on them
Find a way to get them stuck on the planet for a while so they must deal with the gungans.

New thread Gunganlovers >>54037764
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