Paizo Games General /pgg/

>>53891083
A bear trap laid by a dumbduck goblin that had a DC of 32 because "the goblin rolled well". At level 1 mind you because I do love going on a stroll through Rusty Shank Town.

Since the topic was brought up, I might as well ask: what specific outsider species? would be nice to base a tiefling PC off of once you pick their bloodline?

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Tell me about the last time you played a character from the frigid expanse of the Avistani North, piggies! Raid any settlements? Have to pay weregild? Smooch a Huldra?

>>53891083
Speaking of traps, why aren't you apping as one to PLD?

>>53891083
>I'm going to have this evil demon god present you with the soul of a god who is supposed to be dead
>party is two paladins and a righteous crusader for good
>why did you attack the clearly more powerful than you demon god, you idiots?
GEE, I FUCKING WONDER.

>>53891175
PLD is too lewd for me.

>>53891175
Because I'm not a fucking faggot, you fucking faggot

>>53891160
I'm playing an Ulfen sailor. Hes a pure STRENGTH build. He ended up in the body of a Sargavan mercenary though- and inherited the accent.

Does Allfood satisfy water requirements?

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>>53891175
Because I prefer to play reverse traps.

>>53891227
It provides sustenance, would you count water as sustenance?

>>53891212
Shame, it's mostly a good fantasy romp!

>>53891160
Does it count if the ulfen I am playing is from Varisia, is nothing like an ulfen, was raised by Varisians, is still a skald, but also doesn't like being called an ulfen because of who raised her?

>>53891250
That's the question innit

>>53891175
Maybe I will. Gimme a link.

Vaguely relatedly, is it actually worth it at this point to add another app to the Ensoulment pile, or should I save my energy for RotW? And anything I should know that's not listed on their roll20s?

>>53891083
What was the ultimate trap for low level PCs /pfg/ came up with a while ago? Animated armor inside an opened mimic chest that was enveloped by an invisible gelatinous cube?

>>53891250
Yeah, so I guess Allfood and 8 hours of sleep are all that's needed in a traveller's life. That said, I'm trying to figure out what classes can access the Ranger spell list, aside from Ranger and Hunter.

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>>53891160

>Smooching a huldra

I bet you'd even kiss a Tian fox.

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>>53891282
Mmmmmmmaybe? If she doesn't act like an Ulfen and wasn't raised by Ulfens, does she at least look like an Ulfen?

>>53891175
I believe in being professional with my games, and prefer to keep my fetishes out of my tabletop.

>>53891300
People forget gelatinous cubes are naturally unseen because of all the pictures. Gelatinous cubes count as invisible because they are transparent.

>>53891372
So the Succubed was transparent?

>>53891294
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5126499/round-2-dot-dot-dot-3

Try not to listen to the threads opinion on Vult.

>>53891384
She wasn't pure bred, so no.

Also she had aegis levels for proper mattress coating in bed form, and skintight suit in humanoid form.

>>53891394
>Thursdays

Nuts.

>>53891175
Because TRAPS ARE GAY

>>53891445
I want to purebred the succubed.

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>>53891348
She isn't a blonde and she is short, but other than that unmistakably ulfen.

Uses the spoilered picture with small alterations, which were destroyed with my old computer, here's hoping nobody from my group recognizes it.

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>try to convert blaspheme from 3.5
>can't take toughness more than once
>hit die for undead is a d8
>cha mod to hit points
>creature ends up with less hp
>but muh feats

Fuck this shit, why the fuck did they have to reduce the hit die for undead? Fucking stupid bullshit. They are undead they are tough as fuck. Now this guy is going to get BTFO by my party in 2 rounds unless I arbitrarily increase his Charisma for no reason.

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>>53891451

>>53891473
Your Ulfen girl was a NERD!

NERD!

>>53891487
Most undead have pretty high charisma, so they're actually tougher than they were in 3.5 even with the lower hit die.

>>53891492
>piep piep sla
Literally who?

>>53891487
Because the hitdie numbers for undead were arbitrary as fuck and completely shat on the CR system?
And why are you, the DM, choosing to tie yourself down to mechanics when you are already doing a conversion?

>>53890569
>Women, while a lot more influential than in later christian cultures, were firmly expected to stay out of the men's business of raiding, exploration and trade; they had the responsibility of economics and stewardship over the realm, and the wife of a ruling lord would generally go into regency mode when her husband was away on viking duties. They were also a last line of defense, but not one at all often used.
Let's also be clear that as much as women were expected to stay the fuck away from men's business, men were expected to stay the fuck away from women's business. Gender roles were strong and strictly enforced, to the point where accusing a man of being womanly could be considered a mortal insult, and if taken seriously, was grounds to actually battle to the death or either the accuser or the accused being fucking *banished* depending on the verdict.

Yes, if someone called you a sissy girl in a manner that could be taken as a proper insult or accusation, you could challenge them to potential death in holmgång or demand restitution. If you were found innocent of being a whiny bitch, the accuser could be fined, maimed, or exiled, for bearing false witness.

And if you were in fact a little bitch, and you didn't challenge the accusation (again, if it was meant seriously), it could be taken as tacit acceptance of the accusation as true, and if you did challenge it and was found guilty, and the accusation thus true, you could be marked and exiled for the crime of being a cumdumpster.

So it went both ways. I don't think the treatment of women that acted manly was *quite* as harsh, because "they were still women", but they were likely cast out and not considered proper mates or potential waifus.

>>53891487
>>53891510
Not to mention that non-templated undead tend to have a lot of HD for their CR.

>>53891446
That happens when the games already running and just needs to shore up a slot

You could app just for side lewds though

>>53891529
>And why are you, the DM, choosing to tie yourself down to mechanics when you are already doing a conversion?

Because the two systems are supposed to be compatible you stupid fuck.

>Because the hitdie numbers for undead were arbitrary as fuck and completely shat on the CR system?
>creature type renowned for its resilience shouldn't be tough

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>53891494
And actively continues to be a nerd, but still has more charisma than your average seducer fey.

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>>53891494
AAAAAAAAAA

>>53891487
You know, you could just set its HP to whatever you want it to be, being the GM and all.

>>53891530
>but they were likely cast out and not considered proper mates or potential waifus.

In this regard, it's worth mentioning that the Ulfen (whether due to a stroke of reason or being written in the early days of Golarion) actually have noticeable gender roles within their society.

>The role an Ulfen is expected to fill depends on his or her gender, though the majority of Ulfen are farmers, trappers, fishermen, or labourers. Male Ulfen are most likely to become rangers or priests of deities like Torag, Erastil, or Gorum. Druids of Desna are also common. Women are often priestesses of Desna or Torag. A small amount of women also become Wind Sisters, Ulfen maidens who have tamed an aerial mount and use it to fly from isolated settlement to isolated settlement. They also form the first line of defence against aerial threats.

>>53891549
To be fair though, undead ARE still tough as fuck. Skeletons have fucking Damage Resistance as a CR 1/3 creature, your level 1 barb with a greataxe literally can't kill him in one hit all the time, and Undead Immunities make them annoying as fuck to deal with.

>>53891581
>kohai
What if
Guys
What if the
Now hear me out here
What if the reason you don't get noticed by your senpai and PM'd...
...Is that you're the senpai they're waiting to get PM'd by?

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GUYS HELP, THE PATHFINDERWIKI IS TOO FAST NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ABLE TO HANDLE ALL THIS READILY AVAILABLE INFORMATION.

>>53891634
HIGH SPEED PATHFINDER INFORMATION DELIVERY STRAIGHT INTO YOUR EYEHOLES

>>53891634
Stop. Take a deep breath. Remember that Golarion is shit.

There, that should help.

>>53891674
Golarion may be a shit, but it's a shit with tons and tons of online information and lore.

>>53891570
>but still has more charisma than your average seducer fey.

>You will never relentlessly bully the charismatic Ulfen dork
>You will never hold her books above her head and pull them out of reach when she jumps for them
>You will never scoop her up and put her on a high shelf and make her ask for help getting down

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>>53891529
>And why are you, the DM, choosing to tie yourself down to mechanics when you are already doing a conversion?

I never understood DM:s that do this shit. As a DM, the stats are literally what you say they are, at any one time. As far as I'm concerned, they're there as reference material, and even rolling is just there to help you arbitrate events in a way that comes across as fair for all involved.

If it doesn't fit, just change it. The idea that the players should be able to look a monster up and be like "Oh, yeah, it's got 12hp!" is completely alien to me, but I also come from playing very different games to DnD/Pathfinder/d20. If anything, I *want* the players/heroes to feel "Oh my fucking god why won't it just DIE?!".

>>53891674
>TFW you will never try to find the slightest bit of beauty while celebrating Crystalhue in the stinking depths of the Worldwound

>>53891731
UNF

>>53891735
I don't see the point to using the bestiary as a hard rule desu. If I want to give my fucking skeletons better AC because dam they be Nimble Bones then why shouldn't I?

>>53891674
>Remember that Golarion is shit.
It really annoys me that Golarion is a kitchen sink of shit, because there's just mountains upon mountains of shit and all the books and content assumes Golarion.

I want to play Pathfinder, but I'm not creative or secure enough (having never played) to make my own setting, and if I play in someone elses setting I know it's just going to be shit with shit exposition and without readily available information.

They should've made something more interesting and less of a kitchen sink, with greater degrees of historicity and verisimilitude. I feel like it originally started out pretty well, but then just "Oh, yeah, this country is the undead country, and this here is the not!America, and this here is the not!Future country, and this is.. uhm.. what was the next checkbox?"

>>53891634
What worries me is that I might get spoiled on AP-relevant info.

>>53891841
>and if I play in someone elses setting I know it's just going to be shit with shit exposition and without readily available information.
>literally everyone is bad at settings
This is some Startoad level of shittery.

>>53891731
She's also a sphere singer, so she'll just fly if you try to bully her.

>>53891549
>creature type renowned for its resilience shouldn't be tough
>he is ignoring how undead inflated hitdie meant they were stronger, fought better, had higher resistances, and were incredibly more dangerous than their CR implies unless you have a silver bullet

>>53891841
>They should've made something more interesting and less of a kitchen sink, with greater degrees of historicity and verisimilitude

I want this meme to leave, the coherency of the setting is actually quite stable. There aren't verisimilitude-breaking changes between the Land of the Linnorm Kings and Realm of the Mammoth Lords, for example, and even something like Numeria compared to Mendev makes sense when you consider the circumstances of Numeria's technology.

>>53891874
Pathfinder wiki is pretty good at not giving away too much in the way of AP spoilers. Golariopedia is much worse about that.

>>53891892
Can her flying support the weight of two people?

Reminder to hug your friends

>>53891783
Exactly. You really don't need another reason than "This is a particularly nimble skeleton. He backflips and uses Dex to attack and is hard to hit". I realize the developers might want to be more thorough, to allow players to reasonably extrapolate on the foundations of enemies, but really, from a gameplay perspective, ditching all their feats and such and just give the bare stats and a line of relevant special abilities and an example of use is actually a lot more helpful.

It's not relevant that Skeletons have Improved Initiative. It's only relevant that they have +4 Initiative, and if I want to, that's +5 or +6 or +7 Initiative, regardless of what the statline says and regardless of whether there's a feat for that or not.

>>53891878
>This is some Startoad level of shittery.
Especially when it comes from somebody who has never played pathfinder in their lives.

>>53891914
Exactly this. It may be a kitchen sink, but it's actually quite self-consistent and it's trivial to ignore the things you don't like by not going to those countries.

>>53891895
Oh nice, is that a PDF of First Contact?

>>53891938
Cashmere needs hugs!

>>53891963
Cashmere needs to be bullied with hugs!

LoBaF tomorrow. Are they gonna manage to finish book 1 before any other /pgg/ campaign.

>>53891937
If the other person only weighs about 160lbs then yes. Anything more and she can't lift off. But even then for about a minute or so before she is exhausted.

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>>53891938

>>53891914
It's worth mentioning too that the biggest problem nation in the setting for verisimilitude, Alkenstar, is notable for being in a dead-magic zone and surrounded by incredibly academic nations flush with learning.

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>>53891959

Yup.

I heard there were feats or something that gave you full spellcasting progression for a PrC that doesn't normally doesn't give full progression. Is this true?

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>>53892001
I've seen porn of this!

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>>53891959
Yes, it was leaked in one of the earlier threads.

>>53892004
No

>>53891914
>I want this meme to leave
It's not a meme. The world is very much a kitchen-sink of checked boxes, with clearly defined borders and neat, ordered concepts, with the appropriate term used consistently for searchability (and potential copyrighting, I guess).

It's just not believable, especially in terms of historicity. The real world was never this neat, the politics ever this clean. We want it to be, but above an elementary school level, it's a fucking mess, and it always was.

Is it just me, or does it feel like Druma would make more sense as an absurdly wealthy commerce-state if it had direct access to the Inner Sea?

>>53891919
>Golariopedia is much worse about that.
Golariopedia is complete shit, though. I always feel sorry for it, every time I accidentally go there.

>>53891977
Cashmere is slender, she'll get bruised easily from a careless hug!

>>53891977
She needs regular bullying, in the bedroom

>>53892004
Yes. They are Favored Prestige Class which is the prerequisite for the Prestigious Caster. The former has to applied before taking the class, but latter applies retroactively so if you are feat starved early you can just take it later.

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>>53891083

>>53892046
>It's just not believable, especially in terms of historicity.

Agree to disagree, then. It's difficult to just disprove your statement with a broad strokes response about "Taldan Empire" this or "Cheliax" that, but if you pointed at your personal problem nations I'd wager there's a solid chance I could explain away your issues.

>>53891083
Playtests pastebin should really be updated with the Highlord and Mystic playtests.

>>53891938
I will. They're all I've got!

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>>53891963
>>53891977
>>53892075
>>53892084

>tfw Cashmere's first kiss just got stolen

>>53892198
BIG SLUT WON'T STOP

>>53892108
>Agree to disagree,
Not him, but everyone who uses this statement should be given to the yardarm. All it does is act as a shield for people who refuse to justify their position and merely breeds ignorance.

>>53892198
Gloriana pls

Is Rory X Gloriana a valid ship?

>>53892233
Its canon as far as I'm concerned.

>>53892198
Stop teasing them, next they'll ask what she's sitting on as she gets her face pressed between your breasts.

>>53891878
>This is some Startoad level of shittery.
>Startoad
Who? Seriously, what's with the massive amounts of namefaggotry and personalized posturing in these fucking threads? I've never experienced anything like it on /tg/ before and it's fucking cancer.

But anyway, I'm not saying literally everyone is shit at settings, I'm saying that that's usually how it is and it's a reasonable default position, because 9 times out of 10, it's fucking true.

But more importantly and more to my point is the matter of accessibility. When I make characters, I almost always pore over tons of background material and make a character that fits into the setting, take factions into account, have related motivations and a background that relates to it in a relevant way.

That's not easy when 95% of the setting is going to be in a single megafile word document (if the GM is an aspiring writefag, which is in itself always a massive red flag) or entirely in the head of the GM; even a thorough interrogation of the GM is only going to scratch the surface, and is going to leave out all the stuff I forget to ask about or entails things that he may never have thought about himself, and it completely excludes the chance of simply being inspired by some snippet somewhere that makes me decide "Yes, that village, that's where I'm from."

And you want a map? Fuck you, here's a crudely drawn continent made on a tissue based on a particularily jagged booger the GM found last week.

Good world-building with professional levels of content and related pieces are extremely few and far between. I daresay I've never even seen it, outside of - obviously - professional creations such as Golarion, as much as I'm not a fan.

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Starfinder Stuff:

Get your copy of First Contact, courtesy of Reddit
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwsQBh5kjjpIdjdycXJOSUNIVFU/view

Starfinder News: http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljwd&page=3?Bringing-Out-the-Big-Guns-in-Starfinder#106

A summary for everyone else:

Longgun Weapons can end up dealing at least 7d8 base damage before any modifiers or enchantments.

Baked in damage boost tied to character level.

Lack of iteratives (which is alright with me given the above two points) makes chasing accuracy bonuses far less important

Finesse weapons are now "operative weapons" and the feat tax on them is gone.

Weapon enchantments, now called fusions, can be swapped between weapons freely.

The holy fusion overcomes energy resistance of some evil things

Weapon focus now applies broadly

Weapon levels sound really cool

Crits double all damage, and they are very emphatic on the "all" part

Soldiers are the only ones with inherent access to the full-Level-to-Damage boost weapons

Crits don't need confirmations anymore, but if you only hit on a nat 20 you don't get a crit

Inappropriately sized weapons inflict a -4 penalty to attack but don't change damage

Melee weapon handedness doesn't change the Strength bonus

Many weapons have crit riding effect, most common of which are burn, corrode, knockdown, deafen, staggered, bleed, and wound. There are a few others

Armor bonuses scale with equipment level, as does how long you can survive in a vacuum with that armor

There's a 12d10 slashing damage sword with 6d6 bleed on a crit and a 14d10 bludgeoning and fire hammer with knockdown on a crit as level 20 melee weapons. Just don't think you're going to get in close easily.

General assumption is that you can buy anything with an equipment level equaling Character Level +2

>>53891955
>Especially when it comes from somebody who has never played pathfinder in their lives.
>Pathfinder is the only RPG there is in the world and if you haven't played it you obviously haven't lived or have any experience with GM:s and worldbuilding whatsoever like oh my god what a poser

>>53892264
I want a single-shot railgun.

Please tell me Starfinder has single-shot railguns.

I want to model mine into a futuristic musket.

Reminder that DHB designed a better initiator than any DSP did in PoW:E.

>http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1WKwyK10BvzqVb9M3lIJ0ZyraUNSuEr8y0QK6ML6d-6Y%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing

>>53892093
Happy birthday, WetBirb!

>>53892239
>The kids are gonna be basically swole inuyasha

I don't know how to feel about that

>>53892240
Let me guess, it's a huge dick.

>>53892231
Dude, I'm just saying that because it's incredibly annoying to find a good place to start talking about Golarion's lore. I suppose I could start with the raising of the Starstone, but should I?

>>53892233
>Is Rory X Gloriana a valid ship?

Why shouldn't it be?

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>>53892292
>that fucking link

>>53891549
>Because the hitdie numbers for undead were arbitrary as fuck and completely shat on the CR system?
>creature type renowned for its resilience shouldn't be tough
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What does that have to do with their CR being fucked by not following the established system? Nobody said they shouldn't be tough - in fact, I believe that the opposite was asserted, that you, as a DM, shouldn't be autistic enough to tie yourself down to the system.

This is especially true when you're converting things from a system that wasn't consistent to a system that at least attempts to be.

>>53892292
Reminder the main reason nobody's pointed out its flaws is that fewer people care.

There was plenty of stuff in the PoW:E playtest that sat there the whole time without complaints, and then once it got released and more people actually started playing it, the issues started coming in.

>>53892198
Is Gloriana for hugs AND fugs?

I'm trying to make a human fighter that's very in touch with his animal side. How do I go about this? Only Paizo published books are allowed.

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>>53892288

It's actually not a rail gun but that was the first thing that came to mind besides Rip Van Winkle's gun.

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Which /pgg/ game has the biggest problem holding onto its spaghetti?

>>53891151
An Asura-spawn tingling based off an Adhukait would be nice. There's sort of two interconnected bodies, but it's one person in a way.

>>53892401
Sir, have you looked at the Skinwalker?

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/more-races/standard-races-1-10-rp/skinwalkers-10-rp/

>>53892362
Try and find a flaw DSPcuck.

>>53892288
I'm sure. Rail Gun vs. Rockets would be a good decision for Soldiers.

I gotta ask, why do you want a future Musket?

>>53892384
>Try and find a flow DSPcuck
An eternal testament to your shame, >>53892425.

>>53892401
So with fighters since you have such a feat glut VMC is your friend. VMC Druid will give you an animal companion, wild empathy, and more.

>>53892417
HRb

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>>53892288
>tfw we may never get a proper blenind of magic and technology in Starfinder
>tfw we won't get the Castergun or Varia Suit
I just want a game of Metroid Prime meets Outlaw Star

>>53892417
Is it even a question? PLD.

>>53892401
Isn't that just a ranger.

>>53892417
Regular sperging by both the GM and players? Incessant shilling? Posting fucking logs not once, not twice, but like five fucking times?

It's PLD, no question.

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>>53892428
>I gotta ask, why do you want a future Musket?

Plenty of reasons, but for the moment only two really come to mind; retro-futurism gets me all bothered, and I'm tempted to make a fashionable Victorian British aristocrat on Safari, complete with rangefinding monocle, communications system Pith helmet and shield-emitting Gorget. Cloaking Cape optional.

>>53892417
NotR. It hasn't even begun and Tuvarkz spilled tons of spaghetti.

>>53892401
Just play a Barbarian with Totem powers, or a Ranger with archetypes

>>53892472

They already confirmed you can have technological and magical enhancments to your guns called fusions.

Imagin you're a knight of some holy order and you get a hand me down pistol that is practically the gun version of a +5 Holy Avenger because the names of celestials is carved into the grooves on the cylinder and the grip is carved from some sacred rock that an angel literally bleed all over and the pistol itself is cast from silver.

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>>53892288
Why not just have a railgun that you only shoot once?

On a more serious note, though, assuming there's railguns, I can't imagine that a GM wouldn't let you make a type of musket/crossbow-type Railgun that's single-shot. Bonus points if the railgun can also function like a magnetic flak-cannon, essentially a railgun shotgun, by readjusting the stabilizers and loading it with a bullet of compressed metallic filaments that disintegrate upon firing, spreading plasma-heated nano-scrap at hypersonic speeds in a cone in front of you.

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>>53892535
>that an angel literally bleed all over

>mfw you turn the Starstone into a gun

>>53892288
>>53892499
>>53892551
Btw, I love the concept, and would personally love to play a future-musket magus that infuses my bullets with arcane rapejuice. I'm a big fan of retro-futurism myself, too.

>>53892551
>Why not just have a railgun that you only shoot once?

Don't need to, with the way combat works in Starfinder it seems like iterative attacks as we know them are gone.

That anon can take aim at a foe and kill it with just one crack of his Brown Bess.

>>53892231
Sometimes the answer is in fact agreeing to disagree because you either do not have time to explain your arbitrary and not-very-important position or the actual original statement is an opinion anyway. If both sides exhaust their arguments (game A is shit because X Y Z / game A has no faults at X Y Z because B C D) and both sides are unconvinced the answer is sometimes to just drop it.

>>53892535
>the pistol itself is cast from silver.
That shit better be magical, because no way no how would I want my hypertech future-gun to be made out of silver. That shit would just fucking break if it would even work, nevermind being a bitch to care for. Nevermind internal oxidization and shit like that. Fuck silver.

A railgun that fires nanobaric silver slivers imprinted with holy prayers on a microscopic level, though? Fuck yes. The tiniest fucking hymns, exploding into colourful constellations of crimson silver upon contact with daemonic taint.

>>53892554
Why not make a 7 km long railgun made of blessed materials that fires the Starstone itself? You could probably kill Asmodeus that way.

>>53892425
>Needs proofreading, noticeable number of typos and grammar errors. Some things aren't clearly specified (like the type of action needed to activate the save penalizing Analogues. While you can assume it refers back to Applied Theory it's not explicit enough)
>Base anatomical study is boring, flat number boosts don't add anything interesting to the system or your playstyle
>Research Facility is extremely cumbersome and will get lost or abandoned in typical adventure travel, especially through dungeons. Does not pair well with the costly replacement price. Extradimensional Storage becomes a tax and can't be taken until level 6 unless there's the option to burn a feat for it, which is still a tax.
>Many of the Analogues (many, but not all) shouldn't have daily limits, it sets their power level much weaker compared to other initiators
>Generally Analogues do not add anything interesting or dynamic to the class' playstyle. Anatomical Study, the core feature of the class, is still boring to use. On the whole this reflects DHB's main problem of designing things with solid enough balance but lacking in any fun or dynamism. The Physician in battle plays even more blandly than a Myrmidon without grit: it's an uninspired martial with maneuvers completely tacked on.

Finally
>Your first attempt at posting >>53892384 had a typo in your anger

>>53892712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcQq6VR13Ls

>>53892712
>Starstone
>Not the spear of Ilhys

Nothing says "fuck you" like killing Asmodeus with his brother's weapon.

>>53892649
>Don't need to, with the way combat works in Starfinder it seems like iterative attacks as we know them are gone.
On one hand, I like the idea that I can just hit really hard once, instead of delivering multiple blows or shots. But on the other hand, what if I don't want to be a sniper with my murder-musket, but actually want to double-tap things, dual-wielding my semi-automatic digistruct hand-cannons, especially if I want to spread that out on multiple targets? What if I WANT to go full-on gun-kata?

So I'm a bit split on that. I can't help but to feel like both should be options. The benefit would lie in less swingy-ness, since you have a higher chance to gravitate towards averages with more attacks.

>>53892712
>>53892731
>>53892754
>Implying Asmodeus didn't slot in three feats to run Smash from the Air

>>53892712
>Why not make a 7 km long railgun
At that point, we're no longer talking about railguns, we're talking about Mass Drivers. Just FYI.

And we should totally make a transplanar mass driver, of course. Let's nuke hell and see what happens.

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>>53889265
>>53889287
>>53889302
>After being modified, a weapon’s category (simple, martial,
or exotic) increases by one step.
>... A character proficient with a specific weapon (such as a cleric’s proficiency with her deity’s favored weapon) is not automatically proficient with a modified weapon of that type.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uev4?Adventurers-Armory-2-Weapon-Modifications#1

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>>53892686

>When the crack of your railgun sounds like the ringing of bells

>>53892827
So.... feat tax worse than Weapon Focus to literally even USE any modified martial weapon?

>>53892810
>Let's nuke hell and see what happens.

Hell is already getting nuked on the regular as per the finicky nature of Warp travel. It can be assumed that early tests into warp technology had resulted in the research station to partially enter Hellspace, likely requiring specialized personnel experienced in the process of ripping and/or tearing huge guts.

>>53892810
Consideirng that Moloch and Dispaer are always super anal about having perfect and organized armed forces and tactics, my guess is they probably already have their own Mass Drivers and AA Missile Batteries. Maybe even the odd Infernal Axiomatic Nuclear missile

>>53892827
Is there a step beyond Exotic?

>>53892731
>Gillmen talk to Aroden about the Veiled Master's intentions for Azlant

>>53892686
>oxidization
>problem with silver

Sounds like someone failed chemistry class.

>>53892911
Super Exotic... 2?

>>53892686

Dude, it'd be like magic silver so I'm sure it's magical nature will be strong enough to endure being the furniture of a railgun.

>>53892425
>>53892725
Oh, almost forgot.

>Its recovery method HARD-LOCKS the physician into melee playstyles. This thing has even less ranged viability than a Harbinger.

>>53892827
hahaha fuck OFF Paizo

>>53892108
>I'd wager there's a solid chance I could explain away your issues.
I sincerely doubt it. That said, it's not "personal problem nations", it's the entirety of the setting as a whole. A few anomalies could be explained and "Alright, I guess that's acceptable", but the whole thing is really like a checkbox, and all the lines are very clearly defined. It's a systemic issue, it's not any one thing.

Just because you can come up with a chain of causality doesn't make it any more believable, since those events only happened the way they did to facilitate the creation of checkbox region and border #XYZ.

>>53892231
>Agree to disagree,
>Not him, but everyone who uses this statement should be given to the yardarm. All it does is act as a shield for people who refuse to justify their position and merely breeds ignorance.
Word. I've never seen "Agree to disagree" used as anything other than an excuse to be wrong on the basis of "It's muh opinion", or as a way to cede the argument and essentially claim defeat, but still refuse to change position.

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>>53892827
CRACKED
OPALESCENT
WHITE
PYRAMID
IOUN
STONE

>>53892918
Silver can oxidize, just it only does so veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery slowly under natural conditions. Gold can also be dissolved and oxidized in the same way, but it takes such an inordinate amount of time that it seems like it doesn't. Hence why most of the world's gold is actually diluted across the ocean

>>53893006
SHITTY
FUCKING
MEME
ITEM

>>53892998
>>Just because you can come up with a chain of causality doesn't make it any more believable, since those events only happened the way they did to facilitate the creation of checkbox region and border #XYZ.
I hate belibealble worldz
Believeable worlds is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard. Why? Because the only reason our world works the way it does is often sheer dumb blind fucking luck. The world is often NOT believeable. The world is often literally dicerolls, like the Armada getting shit on by like eight successive storms or Subotei's scouting mission not being followed up because the Khan died just that instant or the TWO Kamikaze or the EXACT route the Black Death took or or or..
You learned believeablity off the back of a world unbelieveable.

>>53893014
Yeah, but what material are you going to use for guns where oxidization is LESS of a problem than it is with silver?

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>>53892827
>>53892862
>>53892911
You know what's hilarious about this? Unchained Monk is proficient with ANY WEAPON with the Monk special quality. Meaning you know who this garbage ruling benefits the most? Unchained Monk. Unchained Monk can modify their shit into the stratosphere and still be proficient with it.

>>53892918
Alright, technically not oxidization, but corrosion, fair point. Doesn't make that big of a difference, though, unless you want to chemtard all over it. And no, I magically did not fail my chemistry classes, I just suck at keeping proper terminology, I guess.

I wasn't thinking of the actual meaning of the word oxidization.

>>53892292

>>53892725
>>53892951

>Anon trying to push their new meme shut down once someone actually bothered to read the class

>>53891952
It's actually not. If I want to tweak a creature by changing a couple feats or their gear, I now have to reverse engineer their fucking stat block to figure out what they picked so I can change it. That's the opposite of helpful.

>>53892894
What if we create nuclear weapons from both the prime material and the negative material planes, and combine them? Can we fire said matter/antimatter nuclear via mass driver?

>>53893128
>Tengu Monks
>Fighters with that one weapon training that reduces nonproficiency penalties

Interesting

>>53893137
Corrosion IS oxidization, idiot. Silver is the least reactive metal besides gold, and corrosion will not be a problem short of you trying to store hydrochloric acid in the barrel or something.

>>53892918
>>53893137
Also, I find it funny that you pointed out the oxidization of silver, but not the nonsense technobabble of nanobaric.

>>53893174
I'm pretty sure hydrocholoric specifically more or less ignores silver. Of the three simple non-hyperoxide strong acids, only nitric acid reacts significantly with silver.

Well the party finally fought the River Drake and kicked its ass.

The Drake rolled low on damage and reflex saves to avoid the tanglefoot bag. They actually hit it with a net mid air and sent it into plummeting into a river.

The party rolled high to avoid getting entangled by the caustic mucus twice.

Up next they are going to fight a Divine Guardian Almiraj with mythic rank in a burrowl complex.

>>53893128
That also works with the brawler mentioned in the paizo thread and the close weapon group.

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>>53893128
>>53893168
>>53893214
>rather than going back to make nonsensical bullshit options good, Paizo is going back and (hopefully) hiding okay shit behind bizarre barriers that only the nonsensical bullshit can easily bypass
>thus making the nonsensical bullshit actually attractive choices

I can't tell if this is genius design or completely retarded design

>>53892725
>>53892951
DHB seriously needs to off himself.

>>53892754
Reminder that Paizo retconned Asmodeus out of being one of the original deities, and he's instead an angel mook that just found hell and rebelled.

>>53893174
No; all oxidization is corrosion, but not all corrosion is oxidization, idiot.

>Silver is the least reactive metal besides gold
Silver reacts just fine with shit like sulphur.

>and corrosion will not be a problem short of you trying to store hydrochloric acid in the barrel or something.
This would actually not do much to the silver at all. Fuckall happens when you put silver in hydrochloric acid. You're probably confusing it with something like aqua regia or nitric acid (the latter which would actually produce silver nitrate).

Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Your arrogance is clearly unwarranted and your insults childish.

>>53893296
I mean, the thing about Asmodeus is that he's a compulsive liar so anything he has ever said has a good chance of being twisted from the truth. It's been that since the very start of Golarion as a setting.

He's still probably the strongest evil god in the setting that outmatches most good gods, so he still isn't weak.

>>53893235
Ingeniously retarded?

>>53893349
Him being a compulsive liar has jack shit to do with objective setting material. He was changed.

>>53893367
So? Even if he isn't the one of the first gods changes nothing about him other than that he wasn't first at the soup kitchen when they were having deity soup.

>>53893275
>Anon, realizing he can't rally anyone against DSP with DHB as scapegoat, instead switches sides to try and steer the momentum and rally people against DHB instead

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>>53892046
>Golarion
>neat, clean politics
>clearly defined borders
>not at all realistic
Have you even read any of those books you claim to be commenting on? Because you must be using a completely different set of books.

aaaaaaaa DHB

>Erastil is dead in Starfinder

What's the point? Also, why is Oras a male deity when his portfolio is DNA and Evolution? Should that be a feminine or intersex thing?

>>53891144
>A bear trap laid by a dumbduck goblin that had a DC of 32 because "the goblin rolled well"
Don't believe him. No GM is autistic enough to roll for individual goblins laying individual traps when preparing a map.

>>53893485
None of that actually refutes that, you realize that, right?

>>53893490
We all want his dick inside us, anon. You aren't the only one.

>>53893540
>Should that be a feminine or intersex thing?
If they start injecting that level of bullshit, I'm just straight-up out of this shitshow.

>>53893571
Aside from, you know, the claim that the borders are perfect, no country interacts with any others, and the politics is stagnant? It refutes all that pretty fucking well.

>>53893275
>DHB seriously needs to off himself.
Who?

>>53893451
>DSP
Who?

Are these actual relevant people, or is this just more faggotry?

>>53893544
Except, anon, he was autistic enough. The goblins in the dungeon also had gunslinger levels and rogue levels instead of warrior levels. And there were as many of them as if they had nothing but commoner levels.

>>53893619
DHB is a shitter.
DSP is the most popular 3pp publisher for Pathfinder, who gave us the glory of Path of War and Psionics. They're the company we need but don't deserve.

>>53893619
DHB is a homebrewer who made a bunch of homebrews.
DSP is Dreamscarred Press. Along with Drop Dead Studios, it's probably the most used 3pp.

>>53893619
Dreamscarred Press is one of the most (relatively) well regarded 3pp publishing companies for PF in this thread.
Yes, they are relevant.

Depressed Homebrewer is an anon from these threads who is now also a published 3pp author.

>>53893540
>The avatar of Oras is Jeff Goldblum

>>53891583

You could just houserule casters to be not OP. You being the gm and all.

>>53893601
>the claim that the borders are perfect
Nobody I know made that claim.

>no country interacts with any others
I've literally never even heard anyone state anything nearly that ridiculous.

>the politics is stagnant
Who said that? Not I. It's pretty true, but that's the nature of a setting that's pretty much locked in time (and contrary to popular opinion, moving timelines forward as a whole is usually a complete shitshow, unless it's by so much that it becomes divorced from the setting and essentially establishes a new one).

I think the issue here is that you're fighting windmills. I would say that you're putting up strawmen, but since you seem to genuinely believe that these are the issues, I think fighting windmills is more accurate.

Okay! I finally have some free time, so now I’m going to start doing reviews for Wrath of the Righteous’ apps like I said.


-----Alfheiðr-----

I think starting from the top and working my way down may have been a mistake, primarily because it meant I had to start with this app. I don’t mean that to say that I hate this app though, what I mean is I’m worried about starting with an app I’m a bit critical of, since it may make me look mean. So, if Alfheiðr’s player is here, please don’t take what I say personally, but I will speak honestly.

The first issue I see with this app is the idea that Alfheiðr is both a necromancer -and- a servant of Pharasma. Pharasma, who’s entirely -against- undead. I understand she’s not a cleric, so it’s not like she can fall for that or anything, and I’m also aware that she’s -supposed- to be a heretic. That would be fine, if her backstory didn’t also talk about her seeing Pharasma in visions, where Pharasma is still okay with her despite her going contrary to the faith. If I had to make a suggestion, I would think this situation would be -much- more interesting if “Pharasma” turned out to be an entirely different entity, such as Urgathoa or a demon lord, and they only appear as Pharasma to fool her. I think that might be something the app tries to convey, but if it’s trying to imply that then it didn’t really give enough of a concrete hint towards that.

>1/?

>>53891549
>2017
>still thinks pathfinder and 3e are compatible

Anon...

>>53893674

>LIFE, UH, FINDS A WAY

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78224/chronicles-of-the-golden-chalice

Who do you want to get into Golden Chalice now that its apps have closed?

>>53893619
DHB is short for DepressedHomebrewer. He's a homebrew maker who makes decent products, and even made improved versions of the Pathfinder martials. However he is a tad autistic and not good at reading tone. There is a witch hunter who goes on these threads who has this homohatelust for him and will try to shitpost about him all the time.

DSP is short for Dreamscarred Press, a 3pp content publishing studio. They made Psionics and Path of War for Pathfinder, but then they got screwed hard by Ssalarn dricing their projects into the mud.

Ssalarn is a game dev who is a cancerous fuckwit

>>53891901
>higher hit due to compensate to lack of con bonus isnt a thing

Its fine if youve mever played 3.5 but don't pretend you know shit.

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>>53893694
Far more importantly, however, is the issue of how Alfheiðr would even get along with the party, or even with the other crusaders in general. It sounds like she intends to keep her necromancy deal hidden, but even if she does that, that leaves her without access to her whole schtick unless she blows her cover, which I imagine would be frustrating for her player. Of course if she intends to let the party know, that may be less of an issue. It kind of sounds like she intends to keep it a secret from the party too though. Additionally, the description that she acts “Lawful Neutral or Lawful Good” despite being Lawful Evil makes me wonder why exactly she’s Lawful Evil then. Is it because she casts spells with the Evil descriptor? Cause I’m wary of someone being evil -just- because they cast evil spells. Alignment bullshit is really subjective and honestly not really important though, so that’s just very minor personal gripes. How she intends to get along with and support the party is a far more important issue.

I’d also say that her relationship with Þórkætill currently feels kind of...well, nothing. It seems that one moment they’re traveling together, the next they’re apparently lovers. It seems sudden and out of nowhere, if her backstory didn’t outright say they were lovers, I’d honestly think he was just a friend she was sad to lose, so she brought him back.

The last little gripe I have is just the “rolling a twenty” joke in her backstory. Really, a very unimportant gripe, you can just as easily pin that on me being too “srs bsns” about apps.

>2/3?

>>53893576
I want to eat his cookies!

>>53893590
The God of Freedom, Choice and Independence is somehow a man. It might be based on Cayden Cailean, but I'm not sure since that seems like it should be the genderfluid option.

>>53893690
Except monster and encounter design is literally your territory, explicitly. The Bestiary is not a hard rule, it is a bunch of suggested monsters for quick use and for DM inspiration / convenience. Adding HP to a monster is not at all a problem.

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>>53893737
So, now that I’ve pointed out the bad, I want to point out the good. I like the idea of a necromancer that has a pseudo-relationship with one of her minions, someone she couldn’t stand to lose so she brought him back, deluding herself into thinking the mindless skeleton that used to be her lover is still somehow sentient, and still loves her. I also like the idea of a necromancer in the Crusades; I know necromancy is nasty business and thus wouldn’t be looked at favorably, but it’s also mentioned that Mendev is a little bit desperate, and willing to accept people they normally wouldn’t (the specific example being tieflings) for the sake of fighting the demons, and is willing to use some of the demons own methods against them. So, I could see justification for a necromancer joining the crusade and finding some uneasy acceptance (or, more likely, stressed tolerance) there.

For suggestions, I would advice maybe elaborating a bit on Alfheiðr and Þórkætill’s relationship prior to his death. You know, flesh out their relationship some so they really feel like lost lovers, then her delusions about his skeleton will feel more tragic. I’d also suggest maybe hinting at the idea of “Pharasma” in her visions not quite being what she seems to be, assuming that’s the angle you meant to go for. Those would be the two biggest suggestions I’d make, along with maybe looking through her backstory and finding a way to justify Alfheiðr being a little more open about her powers, maybe not to the general public, but enough that she won’t have to hide the fact she can summon skeletons from the party.

Once again, I want to emphasize that I don’t intend to come off as mean when I review any of these, now or later on. I’d also like to say that these are just my opinions; You or someone else may think differently. I’m just speaking my mind and offering some helpful suggestions.

>>53893718
Serious apps. No memes, no fucking cute shit.

>>53893740

Doesn't that one like making avatars of varying gender and species?

>>53892351
>Charisma represent your charm and personality
>unless you're undead them it's a com substitute

Yes such consistency.

>>53893721
>>53893721
DHB is a treasure

>>53893646
>>53893670
>>53893671
>DHB is a shitter
>DHB is a homebrewer who made a bunch of homebrews
>Depressed Homebrewer is an anon
So, stop giving attention to attention-seeking cancer, and also, if you're referred to as a person by a fucking acronym that's well-known enough to garner three instantaneous responses, you're not anon.

>Dreamscarred Press
Thanks. I've never been a fan of their material, since it's mostly been based around psionics (if I'm not mistaken...?) and I have very little interest in that, but it's good to know that Dreamscarred is so well-thought-of that their material is considered qualitative. Most 3pp are trash and the stuff they produce is trash, but Dreamscarred actually appears to have standards and principles.

Would it be reasonable to count Dreamscarred material as "canonical" (for lack of a better term) relating to mechanics? As in, can I, as a player and a GM, make the blanket statement or assumption that Dreamscarred is accepted as much as official Paizo?

>>53893787
>Charisma represent your charm and personality
And force of will, how powerful your natural magics are, et cetera.

>>53893801
All /pgg/ games, without exception, accept DSP material.
Non-/pgg/ games are less consistent in this regard.

>>53893718
No-one. I don't care about someone elses game. Why would I? Why would I give two shits about someone's application to some game?

>>53893830
>t. salty shitter who didn't get into the preliminary 12

>>53893801
As a player, mostly yes with regard to the material allowed in most pfg games.

As a GM that's a decision that has to be on you, as DSP's most popular product, Path of War, is known for being a fun and engaging system but one that changes balance level of the game and also steers it away from a low-power fantasy tone.

>>53893787
>charm and personality
No. Force of personality. This is not the same thing. Intimidation isn't charming or pleasant, but it's still Charisma. And most undead are condensed balls of hate and fear.

>>53893801
>As in, can I, as a player and a GM, make the blanket statement or assumption that Dreamscarred is accepted as much as official Paizo?
As a GM, you can say whatever you want. As a player, you almost certainly shouldn't assume any kind of 3pp material is allowed unless explicitly stated otherwise. Outside /pfg/ games I find that allowing 3pp at all is quite rare.

>>53893868
If it's force of personality, then why wouldn't it keyed to Will saves instead of Wisdom?

>>53893690
>You could just houserule casters to be not OP.
You could, but it would take a lot of work, without completely fucking them over in terms of what it means to be a caster.

Adding HP to an individual monster has literally zero ramifications or cascade effects.

Kindly stop being such a sperging autist.

>>53893888
It was heavily considered by the designers, but vetoed and shot down.

I sometimes houserule it as will saves instead of Wisdom since Wisdom is still very useful.

>>53893694
>>53893737
>>53893768
I shouldn't be awake to reply to this. I know the app is kind of shit already; no problem.

>Pharasma
It's not Pharasma, but I'm not sure what it is then. The problem is there's a part in the campaign (legit spoilers if there's anyone at this point who hasn't read it) where touched by divinity makes you more or less a demigod from that deity.

>why is she LE
She kind of has to be for mechanics, I don't think it's possible to use Summon Undead to cover her ass all the time and not be some sort of Evil for the purposes of Smite and such.

>Þórkætill
Yeah I was just wary of making the backstory too long, will do, thanks.

>>53893787
Charisma actually represents force of personality, whereby it makes sense for it to be a Con substitute - much like Cirno, Undead depend on determination instead of the inherent durability of their body to keep moving.

>>53893801
>attention-seeking cancer
Other people are the ones giving him attention, all he does is come by to drop his homebrew and answer questions or comments on it.

>>53893888
Because Wisdom is the absolute most atrocious stat in the game and represents force of will as somehow seperate from force of personality.

>>53893768
Iomedae's original divine patron, Arazni, was viciously slaughtered by the most terrible necromancer in history, Tar-Baphon, and then raised as an abominable unliving demigoddess by another legendary necromancer, Geb.

Iomedae and Iomedaean doctrine cannot and will not respect necromancers or refrain from the chastisement of necromancers and their sympathizers. The vermin cannot be allowed to practice their unspeakable art. It is a crusade that is both in the best interest of Goodly peoples and deeply personal to the Divinity.


It is possibly one of the most personally offensive kinds of people you could be in Her eyes.

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>>53893721
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uerg?Group-Looking-for-Friday-Night-GM#1

Friendly reminder that Ssalarn is looking for a GM!

Who wants to step up and do it?

>>53893917
Shut the fuck up already you cringey LARPer

>>53893888
Wisdom is how resilient your personality is - that is, how easily you can be influenced by others. Charisma is how strong your personality is - that is, how easily you can impose your will on others or the world in general. Sort of like how constitution measures how tough you are while strength measures how hard you hit.

>>53893941
I don't understand this reference at all.

>>53893888
Having a strong force of personality doesn't necessarily mean you're any good at resisting other people. Wisdom is internal, charisma is external, it's perfectly reasonable and not at all uncommon for charismatic people to be easily lead around. Sometimes that's part of their charm.

>>53893966
It's not a reference I'm just calling your a LARPing faggot

>>53893931
Not with a stolen dick

>>53893931
Maybe you should, since you need a GM so much.

>>53893975
Is that some kind of Discord meme?

>>53894017
Do you not know what LARP means? This isn't even a 4chan exclusive acronym.
Lurk the fuck moar

>>53893787
>>53893888
I always figured there was something to Charisma and negative energy, since Channel Energy is also Charisma based and undead are beings of negative energy.

>>53894028
I know what it is, you degenerate communist piece of shit. What the fuck does knowing shit about the setting In a conversation about a game set in that setting have to do with LARP?

Just go back to your Discord, pal.

>>53894028
He's explaining why an Iomedae worshiper should despise Necromancy.

>>53894028
He was literally explaining why an Iomedae focused AP and area would fucking hate a necromancer

Ensoulment should finish off recruitment by listing off all the apps and removing one each hour until there's a team of six left. Imagine the hype as the pool dwindles down.

>>53894075
What the shit are you on about and why am I a fucking communist of all things suddenly?

>>53894075
>>53894105
>>53894131
>what does
Because you could've just said "iomedae hates necromancers because of X" instead of going for maximum cringe and start posting like you're an Iomedean crusader or some shit.
>The vermin cannot be allowed to practice their unspeakable art. It is a crusade that is both in the best interest of Goodly peoples and deeply personal to the Divinity.
>It is possibly one of the most personally offensive kinds of people you could be in Her eyes.
I mean, why not just something normal like
>There's absolutely no way Iomedae would tolerate a necromancer, it's probably one of the most offensive things you could be to her.

>>53894132
No, no.

They should reveal a tile at a time from an illustration of the final selections!

>>53894132
Christ no, just announce who is in

>>53894155
He was using colorful language to explain how an Iomedaen would see it, not LARPing

Why are you so triggered by this?

>>53894132
Pairing the apps in an elimination tournament would be more interesting for me.

>>53894165

You're no fun. Why can't we get excited about something from time to time.

>>53894161

The very first tile would be a pair of tits and you know it.

>>53894155
Sure thing, pal. Go submit some more necromancer apps. Maybe you'll have better luck with another game.

>>53893931
I want to give that Kitsune a hug!

>>53894186
The bread and circuses around here is getting annoying

>>53894174
Because I've had enough of DOOS BULT faggots all over the place just fucking explain to people why Iomedae hates necros and explain what a Iomedaen sees it like, don't pretend to fucking be one.

>>53894187
I'm not Kawase you cunt.

If you had to pick musical themes for your favorite Ensoulment characters, which songs would you choose?

>>53894205
I'll pick one for the entire game right now:
Musical Chairs.

>>53894200
But its wasn't deus vult faggotry

Holy fuck calm the fuck down

>>53894225
>The vermin cannot be allowed to practice their unspeakable art. It is a crusade that is both in the best interest of Goodly peoples and deeply personal to the Divinity.
>not deus vult faggotry

>>53894205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wotQwhTSz2U

take your pick :^)

>>53894194

People want things to talk about, so it's never going to stop.

C'mon, speculation is fun. Plus there's some good that comes of it. People get feedback about good writing and good characters.

>>53894194
I want more bread and circuses, and less of this guy >>53894028

So, I'm building a Magus, and I'm reading about something called an elven thornblade, but i can't find it anywhere.

The fuck is it, and why is it good?

>>53894200
Iomedae isn't the worst source of Deus Vult, that'd still be Ragathiel or that Weight Swing guy, DanMachi.

>>53894240
It really wasn't. Calm down you triggered bitch

How you want to run your WotR game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q657rEkgfKs
How your WotR game usually goes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thEbQkcjUWk

>>53894270
Ragathiel isn't even that bad because he's so hammy you can't be unironic about it
Iomedae is just at the point where you can unironically do it and not feel terrible.

>you will one day be able to play the captain of a qlippoth starship, spreading corruption across the cosmos in the vilest ways possible

Let's talk about Ragathiel
Why does he purge the heretic?

Hey /pgg/! I'm about to start running Strange Aeons for my group and I was looking for some music suggestions if you have any.

Is there any good source book on Ulfen other than people of the North? It's pretty old and I can imagine some lycanthropy bloodlines for the bloodrager, some occult seer-ery, maybe some special summoner of snow eidolons or something.

>>53894320
ITS NOT A PHASE DAD

>>53894320
Because John, he is the heretic

>>53893915
Hey now, I wouldn't say the app is shitty by any means. There's definitely some good potential, it just needs some polish is all.

As for Pharasma, I would take a look at some deities and demigods that have Death or undeath as a domain, perhaps some that have trickery as a domain. You may find an interesting angle to work.

And don't worry about your backstory being too long. Really long backstory's can be a problem, but personally at least, I'd prefer a long but well-developed backstory over a short one that isn't as well-developed. You don't need to include all the little things they do, just a paragraph or two about them growing closer during their travels. He rescued her from drowning, so that's a good first step, you just need to take it a little further is all.

>>53893917
I wasn't aware of that. However, there are other churches involved with the Crusade, even if Iomedae's is the predominate one. If one of the moment decided to take a necromancer under their wing to support the Crusade, there's not much Iomedae's church could do without causing a divide within their own ranks. That said, she doesn't even need to be public about her powers, she'd just need to be public about it with her party, unless the majority of what's happens in WotR is smack-dab in front of the crusading army.

>>53894205
Meme characters deserve meme songs. You can guess this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sh4kz_zhyo

>>53894320
Because he has not accepted the Lord's Light.

>>53894320
Virgin Rage, he'd post on /r9k/ if he could.

>>53894320
He's probably wondering why you would shoot a devil before cutting off his head.

>>53894320
Because he hates his daddy. But he is also nice and wants to give the heretic a chance to not heretic, because he's been there, man.

>>53894333
The Ulfen have an entire campaign book called Land of the Linnorm Kings. They are also detailed in Book 2 of Jade Regent, Inner Sea Races, and People of the North.

They're one of the most well-documented ethnic groups in Golarion.

>>53894361
>Ragathiel: you don't get to bring friends
>Balor Lord: fuck off m8 *summons 20 succubi* you're not cool at all I'm leaving
>Ragathiel "the Rodge": REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53894333
Lands of the Linnorm Kings

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>>53894281

>>53894333
Monster Compendium, Frost Giants
:^)

>>53894396
Color the hair of the guy neon pink and the girls neon green and violet

>>53894396
When does WotR even become a proper Crusading romp?

>>53894430
Never, its a bad AP for many reasons beyond Iomedae's trumpets and mythic

>>53894430
Basically never

You start out fighting the same CR 1/2 shit that you do in any AP

>>53894396
>>53894416
Book 2 would be a junkie in an alleyway, and Book 3 would be... What, an amusement park ride?

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>taking break at work.
>browsing Paizo, daydreaming about builds and characters that will never be.
>find this.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo-fighter-archetypes/crossbowman/
>bonus damage and effects when readying attack.
>that's fucking it, and nothing else aside from +4 damage by level nineteen.

I've been playing for three years now, and I've grown used to seeing bad archetypes. But this one, Goddamn it, gets me going. I love it. I've got to try building one of these when I get home.

>>53894492
Have you seen Siege Mage?

>>53894518
If it's a wizard archetype, no. I'm not a fan of spellcasters. What's he do?

>>53894492
>>53894518
What are the worst archetypes?

>>53894492
The worst thing is that there's an actually good in comparison at least Crossbow archetype out there, too.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/gunslinger/archetypes/paizo-gunslinger-archetypes/bolt-ace/

>>53894492
Now that I think of it, this guy would be perfect with a VMC Rogue to take advantage of Improved Deadshot and the Fighter Feats.

Remind me, Vital Strike; does it increase your sneak damage too?

>>53894550
Dude, I fucking love the Bolt Ace. I've made at least four differeny characters around that. One of them also a Gun Tank. They are so Goddamn cool.

>>53894535
It trades arcane bond, arcane school and cantrips, and it has to take three opposition schools. In exchange the wizard gets an amazing power to control siege engines with his mind.

>>53894599
Siege mage might be cool if he got Empowered Widened Extended for free on AoE spells.

>>53894599
Like I said, I don't know wizards. I take it that's bad?

>>53894637
"bad" doesn't even cover half of it. It's on the level of "take all the fighter's bonus feats away for, oh idk bonus skill points lel" bad.

>>53894637
It means it has to choose three schools from which he still can prep spells but they are 2 slots higher (i.e. Burning hands which is a level 1 evocation spell would be level 3 if evocation was opposed). Without cantrips the wizard loses out on detect magic and read magic, both which are mandatory (they get them as 1st level spells, but that's wasting a slot). Same thing happens with arcane bombers who are just weaker alchemist that have access to 9th level spells which still doesn't make them that good.

>>53893870
>As a GM, you can say whatever you want.
Obviously, but should I?

What is Golarion's stance on marriage and childbirth? I've noticed a distinct lack of women with children or men with wives in the APs, is this simply because Pathfinder doesn't focus on that aspect of the world?

>>53894789
Most main characters in APs aren't ones who are settled down with families. Most are career soldiers, mercenaries, researchers, vagrants, etc.

>>53894028
>>53894155
You don't understand simple terms (like LARP). Communists do not understand simple terms (like Fascism, or Socialism). You're being autistic. Communists are autistic. You're a faggot. Communists just cannot stop sucking cocks.

Ergo, you're a communist.

>>53894836
Communists are literally insane, they do the same system over and over and over and expect a different result.

>>53894789
Subtle propaganda aimed at young westerners not to have children. Obviously.

>>53894789
Seems your average stance for the time....except that gay people aren't being burned at the stake. Also most APs just don't focus on people who are married or have children. Take for example Reign of Winter, however, where the poster girl romance option other than the wolf is a 25+ woman widower who has two living sons and one horribly tortured and weaponized undead daughter. There is also her relative who was a father and married, but then evil happened to his wife and children. There's also the huldra who just wants to bang her boyfriend. And the second villain you come across is angry because you killed her boyfriend apprentice. And there's plenty of children in the AP too, though most of them are not alive.

Jesus christ, I just realized how many dead toddlers there are in Reign of Winter.

>>53894853
They're also perpetually offended and triggered by people using the wrong words as according to them, just like the anon in question. It all adds up!

>>53894789
No, it's because it rarely interacts with the players unless they go to ground in a community.
Many books do describe civilian life in various nations in the setting, which are by no means homogenous.

>>53894789
Dragon's Demand has a married couple with a baby on the way.
Wrath of the Righteous has a married couple.
Kingmaker has the PCs living at a married couple's trading post for most of Book 1.
Reign of Winter has a single mother.

>>53894862
One of Reign of Winter's themes were motherhood, makes sense to have a lot of kids in it.

You also forgot there's the widow in Book 2 who had a Satyr kid as a teenager, and later had like 5 other kids with a woodsman that didn't care she was some fae fucker. There's also the unnamed father later in Book 2 whose children were stuck up a tree.

>>53894836
Posting as if you're an iomedean crusader is essentially LARPing.

>simple terms like
Fascism, at least, doesn't even have a unified definition.

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The campaign's Lich bad guy carved his phylactery on the party leaders bones and told no one.

>>53894912
>WotR married couple

Lesbians, or a man and woman? Lesbians are a meme and do not count.

>>53894836
Please report to the nearest confession booth immediately, citizen.

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-----Noriel-----

So, I feel like I should preface this one with a disclaimer. Normally, I am highly skeptical of backstories that center around rape. In my opinion, it’s a very cheap trick to stir up drama (the un-fun kind, not the interesting kind), and is very rarely actually pulled off well. However, one of the campaign traits -was- being the unwilling subject in a demonic ritual, and one of the most powerful demon lords is a literal goddess of rape and monster-babies, so I’m not quite so skeptical here as I normally would be.

That said, I will say (and I hope I don’t sound too harsh here); There needs to be more meat to Noriel’s backstory. 80% of it is about her being a rape-captive, and the other 20% is about her quarantine and subsequent recruitment. As it stands, there really isn’t much to Noriel’s character except that she was raped by a gnoll Lamashtu cult, barely escaped a ritual thanks to a timely paladin rescue, and now she fights for the crusades because she really hates demons and was pseudo-indoctrinated by the Paladins that rescued her.

Now don’t get me wrong; I’m not saying she should nix the rape backstory entirely. If her player wants to play that type of character, then that’s fine. I just feel there needs to be -more-. My suggestion would be to include some events -after- the end of her quarantine, maybe some happier events that help to flesh her out a little more. Or, as an alternative, include some named NPCs into her backstory, maybe one of her rescuers who she’s kept in contact with, or a priest she looks to as a mentor, or a fellow crusader she’d consider a true friend. Basically, just throw in a few other plot threads the GM could draw on that aren’t directly related to her being raped, especially threads and connections that help to flesh out her character a bit more beyond this one tragic (albeit powerful) moment in her backstory.

>1/2

>>53894970
Now, as I prefer to do with these reviews; Positives. At no point did I feel like rolling my eyes when I read the bit in her backstory about her being raped. I feel it was handled tastefully, and wasn’t just used for cheap drama or fetishbait (maybe that -is- the player’s fetish, but if it is then they didn’t make it overly awkward). I also appreciate that this incident actually had an impact on her rather than just being a thing that happened but never affects how she acts in the future; It gives the incident more weight, and offers some interesting RP angles for her (she’s a relatively nice person, but when faced with things related to her trauma she may do things she normally wouldn’t do. Things that other party members might object to, but have to temper with the knowledge of what happened to her, or else present the opportunity to learn about what happened if they don’t know at that point).

For suggestions, my only real suggestion is what I mentioned before; Add some more to her backstory after (or perhaps before) the incident where she was captured by the Lamashtu cult, along with some NPCs she might know, to further flesh her out via her relationships with them.

>2/2

>>53894914
Not to mention the stove filled with dead kids that act as an undead despite being a construct because there's so many kid's corpses in that thing that it's become haunted.

Or the kindly granny who bakes children for trolls.

Or the whole shebang with huecuvas.

Also yeah, the whole "Dungeon of Three Forms of Femininity" and "The Villain Is a Rebellious Daughter and the Estranged Son" kinda give away the theme being about motherhood.

Except in the 5th book where the theme is "Oh you think THAT'S bad?"

>>53894924
>Posting as if you're an iomedean crusader is essentially LARPing.
Even if that's what he did, and it wasn't, no, it's not. Live-Action Role-Playing. Not that hard to wrap your head around.

>Fascism, at least, doesn't even have a unified definition.
Nothing does. But that's completely beside the point, because if there's something it's not, it's "something I don't like lol", nevermind that it implies set principles and doctrines, like corporatism, integralism, meritocracy, etc.

>>53895003
Maiden, Mother and Crone is a staple of mythology, if I recall it's the three forms of the Morrigan.

>>53895003
>the stove filled with dead kids that act as an undead despite being a construct because there's so many kid's corpses in that thing that it's become haunted.
I need to play this.

>>53895060
It's the three archetypes of a witch. Maiden is the young seductress who viles here ways into the hearts of young men (or is a horrible cannibal with nice tits), mother is the slightly older teacher type (or a horrible cannibal with decent tits) and the crone is the hag who lives in the woods alone brewing her stews as she sees fit (or is a horrible cannibal with saggy tits).

>>53895101
People love Reign of Winter for a reason, anon. Campaigns with themes are typically great campaigns.

>>53895060
What's the male equivalent? Soldier, Lord and Sage? Triple-aspect deities are the best.

>>53895055
I'm not him yo.

>nevermind that it implies set principles and doctrines, like corporatism, integralism, meritocracy, etc.
I mean that's the thing. Unlike communism, which strictly if nonsensically is defined as "classless, currencyless, stateless society with worker ownership of the means of production", or socialism, which is just the latter bit and worker control of society, fascism literally doesn't have a normal definition. And I'm pretty sure communists don't call things fascist, they call them capitalist.

>>53895060
Morrigan, Hecate, Witches, etc.etc.
The Three-Faced Goddess is not unique to any one culture.

>>53895055
The Germans LARPing as Romans was the longest running LARP of all time.

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>>53895146

I thought it was popular because it starts off with a nice Russian folktale vibe before it just goes fucking nuts?

Also, stronk NE waifu.

>>53894970
>(maybe that -is- the player’s fetish, but if it is then they didn’t make it overly awkward).
Nope, I don't have a rape fetish. Initially, the backstory didn't include any references to rape at all, instead being much more vague on that the ritual was, other than that it was traumatic, but I ended up caving in to peer pressure.
And it's not rape if it's an elf anyway.
:^)

> Add some more to her backstory after (or perhaps before) the incident where she was captured by the Lamashtu cult, along with some NPCs she might know, to further flesh her out via her relationships with them.
I was trying to do something like that, but every time I become extremely anxious about the fact that I already have the single longest app of all applicants. Having a literal novel for an app would be pretty bad. At the same time, I'm not sure I can cut out any segment of her current backstory to relieve the length burden while keeping it sensible and logical.
I'm really not sure how to do anything about this. I'll try thinking more about it, though.

can I get a link to the /pfg/ discord

>>53895221
Drop your discord name and numbers, I'll invite you.

>>53895221
Just look in the fucking archive you newfag

>>53895209
It's popular because it's consistent and keeps a solid tone throughout the campaign. By the time you get to interdimensional travel it feels like a natural extension of what you've been doing.

>>53895003
What monster is the first one called?

>>53895397
It's a unique animated object. And I know one of my players lurks these threads (I can sense you, you rat bastard) that is all I am willing to say.

>>53895214
>I was trying to do something like that, but every time I become extremely anxious about the fact that I already have the single longest app of all applicants.

I mentioned this before to the player whose app I last reviewed, but in my personal opinion a long backstory isn't necessarily bad. Sure, a huge backstory can be a bit of a chore to read, but I'd prefer a long backstory with good content to a short backstory with sparse content. That's my personal opinion though, of course, so take it how you will.

I'd honestly say you only need another paragraph or two though, just something to introduce an NPC she has some tie to, and how she interacts with them.

I'm not sure how full round attacks are handled. Right now I have BAB 6 with my magus, and I've read this means 2 attacks for a full round attack. Spell combat with spellstrike means i get another one thanks to the free attack of spellstrike, so it's a spell and 3 attacks base, with a -2.

But I don't know what are the limitations of a full round attack, does it mean that I can't take any other actions besides the spell and the 3 attacks, or can I use Arcane Accuracy (which is a swift action) before attacking?

>>53895560
Fullround attack is a fullround action. In one round you get 1 Standard, 1 Move, 1 Swift and any reasonable number of Free actions. Full Round takes up the standard and move. Spellcombat is like TWF with the spell acting as your offhand.
Yes, you can AA as a swift action, or anything else (quicken spell) for that matter.

>>53895560

You can perform one Swift Action per round regardless of any Full-Round Action you might take. So you can use your Full Attack, use the Swift, and take a five-foot-step if you like.

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Have you been doing what I asked, /pgg/? Have you been diligent?

>>53895687
>can't fullround and swift in same round
Go back to school kid.

>>53895687
This is literally wrong.
>>53895560
A full-round action is the combination of a move action and a standard action. You can still use your remaining swift action, as well as any free actions.

Huh. Weird. The main MEGA is actually missing the .pdf Campaign Setting book for Land of the Linnorm Kings.

>>53895717
You said you'd kill DHB if I didn't and yet he's still alive

Your threats are toothless, PManon

>>53895735
>>53895719
Yes, I'm wrong. Sorry. It's been a while since I've played, so I just assumed.

>>53895717
Whenever I can.

But I keep having trouble coming up with things to say. Is it okay to just ask how they're doing? Or does that send the wrong message?

>>53895717
Who are you?

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>>53895701
>and any reasonable number of Free actions
This is notable, because a lot of players assume you can make an infinite number of free actions, and while RAW supports that, I think keeping yourself restricted to where abusing free action numbers are a mechanical necessity (Such as drawing and knocking arrows for your bows) or to a reasonably low number (I tend to try and keep it to 5 or 6 actions per turn at most). It keeps GMs from jumping down your throat about it.

>>53895717
I've seen people in these threads claim they're going to PM ME but they never do.

>>53895807

Fuck me, the X-Men take sprained ankles seriously.

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>>53895793
>Who are you?

It doesn't matter who we are. What matters is our crush.

No one cared who I was until I sent out the PM.

>>53895743
Lemme upload it for you when I get to my computer!