Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

>>53835508
I play a wizard anyways

I use spheres of power

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>>53835508
Why does everyone on here bitch about Pathfinder, except the Pathfinder general?

I said I prepordered the Starfinder book and it triggered the whole thread.

Reminder that paladins literally do not know what actions will cause them to fall

Phylactery of Faithfulness exists for a reason.

>>53835546
Because pathfinder is a shit game.

We're just past bitching about it, unlike the rest of the board

>>53835546
Because "everyone" consists of the 5e general, which is very frankly the "not 3.5e" general, unlike Pathfinder, which is "3.5e but fixed".

>>53835592
>fixed
Y-yeah. Pathfinder is t-totally fixed.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78224/chronicles-of-the-golden-chalice (Closing in 3 Days)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home (Closing in 3 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west (Closing in 1 Week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court (Closing in 2 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71590/puella-librum-daemonium (Closing when Nut Milk Delivered)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia (Closing in 2 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80257/wrath-of-the-righteous (Closing in 3 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80328/volo-fluffy-tails-9 (Closing in 4 Weeks)

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>>53835560
Then why even have a thread?
>>53835592
I was actually IN the Pathfinder general at the time.

>>53835632
Because we are trapped in this hell.

>>53835508
I play a wizard and don't act like a colossal faggot about it, and focus on making my party better.

>>53835618
Reminder that you won't be playing WotR unless you're a Ladyknight, Tuvarkz has already picked his singular male app, now you can only be some flavor of ladyknight, no creativity allowed.

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>>53835639
>Because we are trapped in this hell.
I would say "That's stupid", but I'm from /v/.

>>53835608
"Fixed".

>>53835632
>Then why even have a thread?
So people can act out their homosexual fantasies.

Seriously, read the last thread. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>53835508
OCCULTISTS

>>53835546
>implying
Nigga we bitch about Pathfinder here in this general ALL the time. Why else do you think we fap over 3pp that "fixes" aspects of the system all the time? Hell, Bitching our Paizo and basic Pathfinder was one of the founding principles of this general!
All we're doing is trying to polish a nugget out of a turd, and try to have fun with this system IN SPITE of its faults, because we've either been stuck here since 3.5, or you're someone like me who is fap and obsessed incredibly over the Chargen Minigame involved

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>>53835672
Todd needs your financial support

Has the age of /y/ truly died?

>>53835657
>Tuvarkz has already picked his singular male app
Who's the "lucky" guy?

>>53835706
/y/ was never truly an age, merely a fart in the winds of time

>>53835695
BUY SKYRIM

BUY IT AGAIN

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>>53835695
I could honestly write a book on why I hate that slimy little kike hobbit.

>>53835706
Sadly yes. It never even knew the joys of courtl/y/ love.

>>53835733

I thought we were supposed to buy Quake now?

>>53835749
NO YOU HAVE TO BUY SKYRIM SWITCH EDITION

>>53835706
I refuse to let /y/ die, yes, Tuvarkz may have stemmed the tide when he spilled his spaghetti all over the thread, but soon another game will rise, and my time will come

p/y/rates.

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>>53835749
Nah, you're buying skyrim again so you can buy mods.
Quake is a false flag.

Should I legit cancel my preorder of Starfinder, though? Is it going to have a bunch of errors and be useless later on? I've never bought books like this as they've come out. Only ever bought used and new 3.5.

>>53835733
LEgit though, if I could get VR for the PC version, I'd consider downloading the game again
Just imagine a hyper-modded Skyrim in VR! SO MUCH I M M E R S I O N

>>53835528
Why play wizard when you can play incanter?

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>>53835657
Ladyknights, you say?

>>53835733
IT
JUST
WORKS

>>53835687
I don't get the people calling Occultist unchained wizard. It's probably the closest thing to the idea, but have you even looked at the spell list?

There's nowhere near enough variety in there to carry a pure spellcasting Occultist build, unless you put all your money in Animate Dead minions.

>>53835798

Nah, hold on to it. From what we've seen of previews and the podcasts, it looks fairly solid. Might be a worthy investment.

>>53835840
>You will never admire the muscled back of a ladyknight

>>53835841

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4

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>>53835687
Why is the Occultist so fucking perfect? No joke, ever since the panoplies came out it just feels like it can do anything it wants. You need a full BAB class? Gimme a level or two and I got you senpai. Need a caster? Gotchu senpai. Need a healer? Shit you know I got that. On its own it's amazing, but in a gestalt game it's perfection. Rogues in general? Fixed. Investigator has shit combat abilities? Fixed. PoW game and your (Vig/Bushi) Stalker needs that extra something to keep up? Occultist has you covered all over.

I can't wait for it to get an intelligent weapon archetype and shit in the magus's cereal even more.

>>53835857
I've been sorely tempted to use that as in armour art for my short slender Shelynite small-chested slut, but the weapons aren't right and it's probably more armoured than she'll actually be.

>>53835843
Its mostly because it is able to easily and creatively fulfillthe same thematic niche as the class, while actually having not only cool and fun class features but also equally rewards differing playstyles from specialist to generalist. Plus its fun, simple, and easy to use

>>53835895
Spiritualist already has that, it's called Phantom Blade and is pretty much a Black Blade Magus!

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>>53835847
Since you're replying, I saw that Interface Zero 2.0 is finishing up. I don't know a WHOLE lot about Cyberpunk or Shadowrun (mostly only movies and games), but I have been reading through the Shadowrun core. God, what a difficult read that shit is.

Anyway, do you think since Interface Zero 2.0 will be compatible with Starfinder, that it would be better to not even sweat learning Shadowrun's system?

>>53835942
Except the spiritualist spell list means it in reality is barely like a magus
that was also the joke

>>53835895
I really don't understand how the Occultist is supposed to work or why everyone likes it so much.

>that feeling when all your fave games are being translated to english this year
>that feeling when Path/Starfinder will be completely obsolete come autumn
there is a way out of this hell, and I will shill us there
I-I promise

>>53835965
You know how everyone likes Vigilante and how it's a build your own martial? Occultist is like that for casters but even moreso.

>>53835895
>Implying Occultists can make good healers and they can ever be good enough at it to be anything more than an emergency patch

>>53835826
Because Vancian is universally stronger than Spheres unless you
>Blast
>Necromance
>Heal

>>53835936
What's wrong with the weapons? It's a fine enough bit of artwork, you'll never find something that clicks perfectly into place anyway!

>>53835980
>>53835937
Occultist still has its share of trap options (in both spells and focus powers), and has fiddly bookwork with the focus in each implement.
It's interesting design but I wouldn't call it simple.

>>53835990
Self-polymorph can arguably be stronger in spheres, or at least accessible to more classes

>>53835979
Don't make a girl a promise you can't keep, anon.

>>53836016
Yeah, I'd also say spheres is universally more friendly to gish types.

I'd add short range teleportation to that list too.

How does Conjuration Sphere stack up against Vancian Summoning/Summoner Eiodolan stuff?

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>>53836024

>>53835959

Well, I've always felt that learning a new system is something everyone should do now and again, but if you're having trouble making headway with SR, and you have working alternatives, I guess there isn't much reason to try and slog through something you don't like.

>>53836033
Vancian summoning is and has always been horribly brokenly OP ever since the Communal Mount exploit was a thing. Why use one summon spell per encounter and constantly update your spellist with the highest level summon spells, when you can just prepare Heightened C.Mount and ASM a few times and have Dire Tigers follow you ALL DAY?

>>53836035
>>53836035

>bad euroshit games

No thx

>>53836012
Oh it's a downright clusterfuck, but that's because the Occultist is unique in how it functions so you have to start from the ground to figure it out. It's not at all simple, but it's a lot more interesting than other casters.

>>53836033
Spheres conjuration is just a weaker but more malleable (and more expensive) eidolon. It's miles less bullshit than normal summoning on the basis that you don't have an answer for every situation anymore. It's also miles worse because you no longer have an answer for every situation.

>>53836079
You have universally shit taste if you do not recognize the superiority of Trudvang, you fucking plebian.

>>53836007
Because the character's a glaive wielding polearm dancer not a two weapon fighter.

>>53836103
>polearm dancer
>NOT a TWFer
what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>53836090

>t. Swedecuck

>>53836072
> Communal Mount exploit
>ASM
Mind going into some more detail anon? First time hearing about this.

>>53836103
Maybe she's posing with weapons!

>>53836127
We've always had the better systems, though. That's just the simple fact of the matter. All we need now is an M:UA translation, and you plebian cucks won't have anything to put against it ever.

>>53836147
Alter Summoned Monster is a lv2 spell that reshapes a creature summoned with a Conjuration (Summoning) spell, to a creature summonable with a Summon Monster of equal spell level to the original spell that you're altering. Does nothing to who controls it or the duration, just the shape and abilities of the creature.
Mount and its communal version are C (Summoning) spells with durations in 2h/level, that summon ponies. Unlike say Phantom Steed there's no restriction on what you can make these ponies do. Ergo, if you Heighten the C.Mount spell and then alter them with ASM, you now have ALL DAY versions of your favorite max spellevel monster instead of an ALL DAY pony.

>>53836215
Jesus Christ, that is bullshit. Thank god I've never played with someone who tried to pull that.

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What class should I make her?

>>53836012
What are the trap options?

>>53836215
>>53836261
Oh, and you can also just split up the Communal variant into multiple ponies (max 6 per casting), though this divides the duration as well. Still, let's consider a humble lv7 wizard with a Rod of Extend Spell: his C. Mount spell will have a duration of 14 hours pre-Extend, so 28 hours. This means 2 ponies of 14 hours each, 4 ponies of 7 hours each, etc. Assuming you have 4 lv2 spells to alter them with, that's a LOT of adventuring time with - oh, why not one of each Medium Elemental type?
And you still have all your Fireball slots left.

>>53836160

That is what rhe Spaniards said with Anima, and let us not forget the shitfest that is Myfarog.

The only other nation with remotely decent table top role playing games are Japs, and even those are is imbalanced and yet more linear than 3.PF.

You just can't compete with the good ol' US of A. We made this hobby what it is today and we're still leading it.

>>53836283
Blasting for one

>>53836298
>this nigger is actually serious

>>53836279
Dervish Defender Warder?

>>53836279

Chosen One Paladin.

>>53836279
Dervish Dancer Bard.

>>53836327

> can't refute it

>>53835960
Spellstriking Harm was probably the most damage ever done in game by any character yet at my table.

Slay Living is my next trick.

>>53836279
2WF doubledachi Whirling Dervish swashbuckler

>>53836279

Dervish dancer Warder with scimitars.

Is the Passover Barbarian archetype actually in a good? because it looks kind of shit at first glance.

How do I make an Archivist bard contribute decently in combat? Bows?

Or should I go Archaeologist instead and go full indy?

>>53836419

>path of war

Autocorrect please

>>53836431
A shortbow might be your best bet if you don't feel like going for a rapier and Dexfagging.

>>53836435
Primal Disciple?

Not really

You trade out everything but Rage and a SINGLE (!) Rage Power in order to get merely-okay initiating

Guys I think I fucked up somewhere

I'm a huge-sized Brutal Slayer Stalker//Shifter gestalt

My Reflex Save is +17 at level 6

Is that normal?

>>53836313
It's too bad Blasting isn't more viable in PF, I love to sling spells and blow shit up.

>>53836471

What is a good class for a big boy with a big wrapon then that isnt Warder faggotry?

>>53836501
Bloodrager or Barbarian.

>>53835959
You're the same clown who showed up in /srg/ yesterday, aren't you? Same stupid feelposting style. Don't come crawling back to your /pgg/sty for a pat on the back and an assurance that you don't need to learn a scary system that's far easier than 3.PF.

>>53836419
It's the worst of the 6 level initiating archetypes.

You're better off as a Myrmidon Fighter grabbing Viking.

>>53836510

But I want to initiate, all the other PCs are pow and they will leave me in the dust if I don't.

>>53836501
Brutal Slayer Stalker

>>53836492
Wait I fucked up the math on that one, under optimal conditions my Reflex Save is +20

What can I dodge with this?

>>53836524
Then it does not matter, you will win all combat anyway
Make a lazy cunt who happily lets others do the job while you lie about

Why must TWF be such suffering

>>53836638
Because it is non-sensible power fantasy

>>53836638
TWF will be suffering forever until you embrace the doubledoubledachi meme, anon
Then you will ascend to the heavens
And THEN you will keep ascending until you hit level 14 and switch to lances

Nobody will be laughing anymore except you

>>53836638
Because not even DSP can save you now

>>53836638
Because for some reason it's not just one feat

>>53836674

Doubledoubledachi?

>>53836674
>>53836638
This being said: if your GM EVER throws a centaur with 2 lances at you, just run. Run and don't look back.
In fact, if you see ANYTHING wielding 2 lances, you should start running. This means your GM has finally had enough of your shit and is starting to break out the nuclear options.

>>53836704
How do you even do two lances well except with Piercing Thunder?

>>53835801
>tfw finally you can have REALLY Immersive First Person as the charus takes you from behind

>>53836717
Lances are 1handed when mounted

>>53836717
You can wield a Lance one handed while mounted

>>53836531
Nothing that matters.

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Be honest: in how many groups are you in where the majority of the avatars are anime girls/traps, or ALL of the avatars are anime girls/traps?

>>53836766
>>53836717
Just to hint at what sort of glorious shit we're looking at here, the MINIMUM LOWER BOUND of expected DPR of this faggotry is somewhere within the range of 1200 damage.

>>53836793

None actually.

But I don't play with /pgg/ or weebs.

>>53836704
Good luck, I'm behind seven mirror images.

>>53836807
>wall of force
You are now galloping over me on a slight slope.

>>53836824
>heartseeking lances
Good luck, fuckboi.

>>53836824
>he thinks seven is enough to save him
nigga you dead

>>53836807
So where exactly do people think "reasonable" DPR exists anyway
After all, using PoW means you accept all encounters are homebrew anyway. The monsters will have the defence the GM comes up, not by any standardized math.

>>53836846

Takes 3-5 rounds to finish a challenging (CR+2-3) encounter by dpr alone.

>>53836868
But battle lenght is decided more by crowd control, not really how much DPR you have
as >>53836838 this guy said

>>53836793
None.

>>53836884

Ban tier 1and 2.

>>53836846
2 rounds to beat an enemy of average CR equal to your level. 1 round if you go nova and use resources, or your best boost/strike combo.

PoW devs have said they balanced around that metric. (Whether they succeeded is a different question)

>>53836846
This is not PoW, though. This is BEFORE any extra added PoW shenanigans go into play. This build is literally just a single class fighter or other martial, possibly with a one level dip.

Regardless of defences, if you have enough attacks that hit with force enough to one- or twoshot any opponent, it doesn't fucking matter what you're up against unless people start throwing forcewalls whenever you move.

>>53836868
...So both players and GM need to compare the DPRs around and determine together how much HP the monsters ought to have?

>>53836793
Two if I count the /pfg/ Discord.

How do you RP someone with 8int and 18wis?

>>53836908
I mean.
As a GM, that's exactly what I do.

You mean you don't?

>>53836948
Dyslectic crack sniper bowrangehunter who never read a book in his life?

>>53836948
Like a peasant that was born with genius, but never applied it to learning and scholarly pursuits due to his station. He knows the fields, he knows the harvest, he can tell good streams from bad and all manner of things that happen under Earth or sky... But show him a book and he'll be left scratching his head.

>>53836948
Really wise person but very ignorant and lacks a lot of knowledge or calculating ability.

More important, is aware that this is their flaw and defers to people who are more educated in the relevant topic, but also ready to point out any intuitive flaws in their reasoning.

>>53836908

Do you not have an average metric for your player and enemy dpr, hp, defenses, etc?

>>53836973
Considering I do most of the work, I just don't let my players get to the point I need to figure out how to make every single encounter work

>>53835990
I meant sphere wizard vs incanter

>>53836948
>Here's what we need to do. I'll leave the details to you.

>>53837003
>I need to figure out how to make every single encounter work

But that's what GMs have to ALREADY do.
If you're not doing that, what the hell are you doing instead?

>>53837033
In that case, the question is why play an Incanter when you can be an Incanter 1/Whateverthefucyouwantaslongasitsacaster X?

>>53836841
joke

your head

>>53837042
Writing more scenes and fleshing out more NPCs
I have kept the illusion of danger. Nobody has yet questioned why players tend to win every fight because it is taken for granted. Or they simple do not care, just like me.

>>53837066
>just because I referenced a shitty meme about proxies, noone can reply to my post hurf durf

How retarded is this idea for the ultimate Iajutsu master:

Mercurial Duelist Vigilante (with the Advanced Grip talent)//Brutal Slayer Bushi Stalker entering into Landsknecht

Focusing on Mithral Currentl, using half-giant and Massive Blade in order to create a massive nodachi and then iajutsu with it. How stupid is that idea?

On a serious note, guys.

How often have you been forced to flee (or made your players flee) from a battle? Do you see it as an option?

>>53837106
Never.
Always fight to the death.

>>53837056
More talents is the most probably answer, though with Spiritualism tradition that might not be important.

>>53837106
Like once or twice. The issue is that because of the way power in d20 systems work anything that can outgun you to the point of forcing you to retreat, can most likely outrun/outrange you too. So I don't really see running away as an option unless someone tries to pull a "I'll hold em off" moment.

>>53837106
I always build characters in order to make running a viable option.

Generally only full casters have the tools to make running work before level 5 or so, but after that everyone has enough tricks to. I always discuss with my party escape plans if shit hits the fan. I consider people who don't do this failures who get what they deserve when they die.

When's the last time you had to tell someone "Sorry this game isn't casual enough for you"?

Last time it was when the party was being tracked down by some dromite mercenaries, and being they have scent, they were thinly sliced and locked up for various crimes against the state.

Don't care how high your hide check is, you can't hide your odor.

>>53837098
Go for it

>>53837149
>Don't care how high your hide check is, you can't hide your odor.
You literally can, there are cheap alchemical items that do.

People who don't carry around a box full of cheap and useful alchemical creations are retards.

>>53837149
If you know you're being tracked by scenty enemies, you can take measures to hide it. There's even fucking spells for it, you dolt.

>>53837149
>GM who will change their tune once they try to send super stealthy assassins at the PCs and one of them with Scent ruins their plans

>>53837149
>dromite
Who the fuck actually uses the Psionic races? For real? Except Half-Giants for weapon cheese of course.

Nobody would find a rage-filled Ragathiel worshipping ladyknight attractive, especially if she was a redheaded tomboy who wanted to avenge her sister's death!

>>53837075
You mean that isn't what everybody already does? They actually try to make sense of this messed-up math?

Where is Wild Surge and why hasn't he given us the art he promised?

>>53837183
People who ban "Humans but pointy ears" and "Humans but short and greedy" and "Humans but really short" and "Humans with one pointy ear".

>>53837194

Too busy shitposting with the cabal

>>53837194
Which art? The art of Aurelia searching for her husband among the many tieflings of the applicants?

>>53837156
That's masking.

>>53837204
I mean that's pretty much every psionic race except Ophidians, Norels, and Dromites. They were pretty much made to match up with the CBR races.

>>53837194
He has, Aurelia was fully Tiefed

>>53837225
The Aurelia one has been made though, hasn't it? I was thinking about the CCC/Witch one.

>>53837193
Once upon time when nobody wanted to do the dpr olympics, you could just use beastiaries without editing and get satisfying results

>>53837239
It literally is not. It makes you scentless.

>Deodorizing Agent
>Price 30 gp; Weight —
>Coating a creature in a vial of this milky, odorless substance takes 1 minute and renders it scentless for 1d3 hours. Creatures that rely on scent for locating creatures do not gain the benefit of this ability against a creature affected by a dose of deodorizing agent.
>Coating a creature in a vial of this milky, odorless substance takes 1 minute and renders it scentless for 1d3 hours.
>odorless substance takes 1 minute and renders it scentless for 1d3 hours.
>renders it scentless for 1d3 hours.
>renders it scentless

>>53835959
I'd say SR is shit and not worth learning just to run a campaign and realize how broken it is, but this is /pfg/ so maybe you'd like that. If you want SR in fluff only the sprawl is definitely better, even if it fails as a PbtA game.

>>53837273
something cannot be scentless
everything is chemicals

>>53837263
And then quickly after that because there was the thread of actually dying and losing your character or failing at missions, people studied the DPR olympics because they didn't want to be punished for not being strong enough.

It's simple cause and effect.

>>53837331
You're a retard then, got it. It's fucking alchemy, not real world chemistry.

Next you'll tell me magic can't make you scentless because everything is chemicals.

>>53837346
Heroes always wins narrative taken for granted.
Sometimes I feel like... players could be just told CR/levels of their enemies
Like MMO, you put a huge fucking skull on the monsters that is not meant to be beaten. Then they get "oh this is NOT combat that you should beat! Ok guys, its a chase scene! run!"

There is this weird synergy. The more players know, they more they can pretend their characters don't know. If they have some rigor to their roleplaying.

Added the last of what I think might be a good cycle of characters and still have no idea which I should actually apply to the game with. Help.

>Mad Dog True Primitive Barbarian || Hussar Beast Rider Cavalier VMC Witch
>PrC into Mammoth Rider
>Tribal champion and representative of his people being sent to east to Mendev for the crusades from the Realm of the Mammoth Lords. His tribe lives on the eastern side of the Realm of the Mammoth Lord and he grew up with his culture centered around fighting and killing demons. He defeated two powerful demons to prove himself worthy to the shaman before being sent.

>Techslinger Maverick Gunslinger || Primalist Wizard VMC Bard
>PrC into Technomancer
>Ranking member of the Technic league and hero of a station place on the northern border with The World Wound. Ended up defending the station for four days straight by himself before detonating the entire place and returning the Technic league. The Technic league did not agree with his decision and sent him as a representative to the crusades.

>Royal Accuser Urban Infiltrator Inquisitor || Hidden Blade Rogue VMC Ranger
>PrC into Sleepless Detective
>Direct servant of the royalty of Ustalav, tasked with keeping the safety of the northern border with the World Wound. Elected among his fellows as the representative to the crusades when they are called after the death of his wife and embarrassment at court made it dangerous for him to stay in Ustalav.

(1/2)

>>53837423
>Gladiator Myrmidon Fighter || Belkzen War Drummer Skald VMC Sorcerer
>PrC into Pit Fighter
>A half-orc bastard born on the north eastern border of The Hold of Belkzen. Grew up in the fighting pits as a gladiator going up against demons captured by orcish Raiders along the World Wound border. Holds a record for survival against demonic foes. When the crusades were called his owner sent him along with several others as a token gift to the crusades.

>Mendevian Priest Cleric || Forgepriest Shieldbearer Warpriest VMC Inquisitor
>PrC into Low Templar
>Embittered veteran of the last World Wound crusade. Lost most of his faith and half of his left arm and now works as the forgemaster for one of the crusader cities. Unfortunately due to the new call to arms despite him being disgraced, due to a cowardice at the last crusade, he has still been called to action for the next.

Which should I choose to apply with? At the moment I am extremely torn.

>>53837423
Dhb you'll only get in if you make a lady knight

>>53837437
>shieldbearer
>lost half of his arm
How does that even work?

>>53837437

Priest or techslinger tbqh.

>>53837456
I was going to ask to use prosthetic rules and spend a good portion of my money on creating a magical prosthetic (there are rules for this but they are 3pp).

>>53837437
>>53837423
Remember, if your character doesn't have a personal grudge against Lamashtu you're not getting in.

>>53837456
>>53837457
Doesn't matter unless they're lady knights

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>>53837493
What if I play a 2hu ladyknight with a nodachi?

>>53837486
I like the idea tbqh fampai. Try asking Tuv about the prosthetics shit.

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>>53837191
That's a lie! A rage-filled Ragathiel-worshiping ladyknight must satisfy her desires, and if that means being brazen in her advances towards those who might satisfy her than she must pursue them, however uncouth her mannerisms become!

>>53837502
>a nodachi
But that's not two nodachis, anon!

>>53837493

I am a ladyknightfag and I say they are welcomed additions.

But please continue with your butthurt memes.

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>>53837502

I already tried applying with a ladyknight wielding a nodachi. She was denied. DELETED, even!

>>53837423
DHB, please put these into a pastebin next thread.

>>53837493

>tfw didnt app with a ladyknight

How bad did I goof?

>>53837437
>>53837423
Where were you when DHB build an entire functional, interesting, and balanced party for a WotR game by himself.

No really, what does this group not cover? They're even diverse enough to not shit all over each other's gimmicks AND the flavor.

Tuvarkz is a shitter. Doesn't one of the WotR books have a rival party do shit if you don't in time? He should make this the rival party.

>>53837527
Anon, what you should've done is made a Numerian eccentric Tech-Priest who owns a custom-built Nodachi with an onboard Artificial Intelligence.

She gets pleasure from being put in or pulled out of her sheath.

>>53837437
My vote for priest, though Royal Accuser is my second favorite.

>>53837576
Do it and just let DHB play all of these concepts at the same time.

>>53837582
>tfw mithral current
>tfw can sheathe/unsheathe as a free action

>>53837437
I agree with this guy:
>>53837589
The priest and accuser look cool.

>>53837574
You're donezo kiddo

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>mfw tuv actually runs his game, has a varied cast, and ends up being good fun

>>53837576
No, Book 5 has an allied party sneak into the Big Bad's lair and steal the Codex, which is used to either open or close the Worldwound. They were doing this while you were busy saving Iomedae's Herald who wasn't actually in any danger, and was more or less hiding from her.

Before you scream how this steals glory from the party, do understand that the party is already well-established as the biggest, baddest dicks in Avistan by this point, and more than living legends to the Crusade. The party that steals the Codex does not seek to flaunt their achievement, in fact they merely give it anonymously to the Crusade and secretly prays that the party are the best ones to use it.

This isn't stolen glory, they're literally doing the legwork for you.

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i could forgive them for making the most boring pantheon of scifi races ever concieved, if the art for them was at least decent.

but holy fuck look at this.

does anyone even want to play as a rat folk? has anyone EVER in your games wanted to play as a rat folk?

>>53837623
It won't, it'll just have muh ladyknights, he outright stated this in the thread

>>53837638

If you continue posting butthurt memes you're just going to tempt fate into making it happen even more!

>>53837632

I was a ratfolkfag. But not after looking at that art.

>>53837632
Oh man nobody's told him about Rinka have they

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>>53837623
>>53837574
>Some of the apps are actually kind of fun
>DHB is going full autismal on designing fun, varied characters
>Slow and Sleep are supposedly applying
>All this while Tuvarkz makes a fool of himself in the thread

What the fuck is happening here? The DM is doing everything to tarnish the game but people are putting real effort into it?

>>53837632
So much covering on the face and that thin, delicate ear tissue left exposed.

>>53837658
Rinka is an ironic meme that became serious after dumbies attracted the people genuinely into rats, kinda like the Gnoll posting attracted Gnollposter.

>>53837632
No shut up, they had to make a quirky small animal race for the people who want to play Rocket Raccoon.

>>53837658
Rinka is shit

She still hasn't killed Rory

>>53837660
Word is Sleep dropped after the spaghetti incident

>>53837638
He sucks but he did say that he only intends to take like, 3 or 4 lady knights. This means there're at least two slots for actually good apps.

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>>53837632

Sure, could be fun.

>>53837660

Which ones look fun? For research purposes of course. Not that I would want to really know I mean.

>>53837674
>Rinka
>originally a RotJR meme girl
>ironically loved

Wew

>>53837674

>for the people who want to play Rocket Raccoon.

Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>>53837702
Remember the Rinka/Etan shipping?

>>53837695

>durrr all the ladyknight apps are terribke because im mad at the GM

lol ok kid

>>53837437
>>53837423
>A Cave Man
>A Super Scientist
>A Secret Policeman
>A Gladiator
>A Bitter Priest

Even the dynamic between the party would be good. All of them have a personal stake in fighting demons whole being from 5 different nations. This is what a party of crusaders should look like.

Cave Man and Technomancer together would be great.

>>53837632
they could have at least made them space hamsters or rabbits or something. mischievous and cute instead of disgusting

>>53837712
>>53837712
I do, fun times, I think she would have gone good in friday's group

>>53837695

> would have applied anyway with a lady knight even if that wasn't the DM's fetish

Guess I am damned if I do and damned if I don't

>>53837729
I bet she would have been bullied by Etan.

Foxes eat rats right?

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>>53837726

You don't think rats are cute?

>>53837751
Absolutely bullied to oblivion

>>53837723

> this is the best because it's contrarian to the theme of Adventure path

Are you just willfully ignoring the fact that there's dozens of different Knight orders active throughout Mendev?

>>53837780
Good

Etan would spl@ the r@ in the h@

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>>53837751

Yyyep.

>>53837705
Feels kind of topical, don't you think? Like how you'd got a whole bunch of people wanting to play giant robots after Pacific Rim.

>>53837791
>Are you just willfully ignoring the fact that there's dozens of different Knight orders active throughout Mendev?
Do you not actually know what the theme of the adventure path is? Literally in the lore of the crusades the manpower of all of Avistan pours into Mendev all at once to seek fortune/fight the World Wound. The crusade is made out of ENORMOUS amounts of foreigners. The crusades are supposed to be varied with thrill seekers, demon hunters, and aspirant crusader kings from across the continent.

Sure if they were from Garundi you'd have a point, but they're all from nations that border the World Wound. Let's fucking say again, the fucking headquarters of the Technic League is one day's travel by horse to the rallying point for the crusade.

You're the one who has no idea what they're talking about.

>>53837744
Just do it, man! Who cares if it's the DM's kink?

>>53837841

I guess but just because it's topical doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Just because some things popular doesn't mean you need to hate it.

>>53837752
No, they're pests and vermin.

Someone make another WotR game so we can get an actually good WorD game for DHB

>>53837874
>Just because some things popular doesn't mean you need to hate it.

I don't hate the concept of a rat race, I hate the fact the existence of the rat race means time and resources and a core race "slot" went to something that feels like it could've been given to a better race.

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so star finder has literal space elves?
jesus christ

I would like to make a charismatic warrior type character... but with arcane spellcasting along with being decent at hitting things. The character would be a retired military officer, and I would like them to have face worthy skills.

What class to do? Magus doesn't seem to have any real options for going cha.

>>53837897
Fucking phone posting

>>53837906
Yeah, they're hyper-paranoid assholes supremely butthurt at the fact the multiversal mind-wipe robbed them of their innate smugness.

That said, it's worth mentioning they're actually a really solid race now, considering Dex/Int will be useful for Sharpshooter builds.

>>53837906
Pathfinder elves are actually space elves

>>53837911
Sir, have you tried the Bloodrager? They have access to arcane spellcasting, and are pretty alright at hitting things.

>>53837911
Bloodrager. Steel Blood if you want armor.

>>53837906
They were a thing long before Starfinder was.

>>53837929
>the multiversal mind-wipe

What? Why does this exist?

>>53837911
>What class to do? Magus doesn't seem to have any real options for going cha.
It actually does.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/archetypes/paizo-magus-archetypes/eldritch-scion/

Otherwise you should look at one of the following:
>Steelblood Bloodrager
>Magical Child Vigilante (does not require you to be a child)
>Archeologist or Arcane Duelist Bard

>>53837934
Kiiiiiiind of, they've been on Golarion long enough that I'd say they're Colonists more than Space Elves.

>>53837954
Because Paizo are hacks and wrote themselves into a corner, and are using the multiversal mindwipe as a "it was all a dream" tier schlock answer to the question of "how did we go from Medieval to Far Future?"

>>53836793
Define anime. Is Granbloo anime because they have a cartoon?

Should Fiendish Sorcery be expected to apply to Bloodragers?

>>53837906
You realize elves are not native to Golarion, right?

>>53837853

Look at the player's guide talking about the different knights and Knightly orders that have shown up over the years, especially Hellknights and Andoran knights. Knights being a big presence is to be expected. Knightly PCs are to be expected. They even have a small section in the player's guide for players running a Paladin saying it is a great choice for the campaign. It also repeatedly mentions how faith is very important to the Crusaders and people living in Mendev. Are you going to get bent out if shape over warrior priests too?

You are so butthurt at tuvark you were bending everything you can think of to say why the poster boy for this kind of campaign is wrong. Get over it. They're just as valid if not more so than your techno barbarians and mwangi spearchuckers.

>>53837967

Oh lovely. So I can just ignore that and say time just advances like it always does and this is thousands of years into the future.

>>53837952
And yet the crusades specific PrC is the Low Templar. Literally the specific PrC for it is about being a foreign opportunist.

>Hellknights and Andoran knights
Neither of which, save for one Hellknight order, are heavily involved in the World Wound.


The Crusades are supposed to be about those with a stake in fighting demons. Try and justify how any of DHB's characters aren't intimately involved with fighting demons/the world wound.

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>>53837949
>space elves were a thing long before Starfinder was.
so shouldnt that mean they should do something new and interesting?

>>53838006
You realize the setting is just the golarion one moved along, right? What, would the elves suddenly stop being from space?

>>53838006
>Paizo
>Something new and Interesting

There is literally a Megacorporation called AbadarCorp, anon. Abadar runs it. AbadarCorp run by Abadar, get it?

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>>53838002
>The Crusades are supposed to be about those with a stake in fighting demons

>mfw it sinks in you don't have a really solid reason to fight the demons

>>53837987
>They're just as valid if not more so than your techno barbarians and mwangi spearchuckers.
Ok, try and justify how any of DHB's characters don't have a stake in the World Wound conflict.

Like I said, if they were Garundi you'd have a point, but they're not. All the characters spent their lived fighting against the World Wound.

>>53837966
I'll look into bloodrager.

I said Magus doesn't have any real options because the Eldritch archetype looks terrible, which is unfortunate.

Would you play in a Starfinder campaign with this premise?:
>the players are agents from Terra investigating the massive disturbances caused by Drift drives while praising the Emperor
>eventually, they find the Pact Worlds and see the degeneracy that has to be purged
>only Pathfinder core races are allowed for players
>they are fluffed as genetically engineered human subraces rather than different races

>>53838022
>AbadarCorp
>run by Abadar

Is it because he is the god of civilization and wealth? Does it send settlement ships loaded with people and goods into the black void to colonize planets?

>>53838002

Any one of them is fine, all five is furious masturbation to your hatred of the archetypical crusader knight themhellknight

>hellknight
> not caring about the infinite legions of fucking Chaos pouring into their backyard

Shit, I think you really are retarded.

>>53838052
>Does it send settlement ships loaded with people and goods into the black void to colonize planets?

Maybe? All we know is they're unscrupulous assholes.

>>53838052
>Does it send settlement ships loaded with people and goods into the black void to colonize planets?
Yes. The Starfinder Premiere Reveal stream was a one-shot with exactly that premise - AbadarCorp was sending colonists into the void and the players had to investigate what went wrong on one such mission.

>>53838002
>>53838059
Isn't there a Hellknight Order explicitly charged with handling the quarantine of the Whisperwood, which has an active Hell Gate straight to the Abyss?

>>53837751
aren't both of them humans though
inb4 Anon misses the joke

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>>53838019
>You realize the setting is just the golarion one moved along
so thats why it sucks nigger cock. im glad you told me. so why did they do that instead of making a new setting. god the races are shit. look at these. why woulndt they goto deviant art and find interesting look races and fluff them out to be cool. instead we got furries, and different flavors of humans.

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>>53838037
Oh my god, please, if you're going to even get into this game or if you continue to discuss it,

It's Worldwound. One word. Not World-Wound, not World Wound, just one word, and that word is Worldwound.

>>53838110
So fucking human

>>53838032
Well, what's the reason you've got now?

>>53837723
Isn't that the cast of chrono trigger right there?

>>53838059
>>53838078
I didn't say they cared, I said only one is heavily involved with the World Wound crusades.

And fuck man, you're buttmad about foreigners, only one Hellknight order is headquartered anywhere near Mendev.

DHB's characters have more reason to be there than most Hellknights, most Hellknights are more concerned with peace keeping back in the home land than the up north World Wound.

Nigga you are literally just ignoring parts of my post to try and support your argument.

>>53838151
>I didn't say they didn't care
What I meant to say.

>>53838110
I'm pretty certain they're human beans

:^]

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>>53838112
It was convoluted and forced as hell. They even had such a panic about the possibility of groups going "... there it is" and firing a couple of ship weapons at the planet after looting 9th level spells that they came up with the whole idiotic "gap" thing and made FTL a completely deity-driven thing.

Sure, in the original core book it's tech-only... but mark my words; it's one AP from that changing, and the high level spells, guaranteed will turn that back around forever.

>>53838194
>Sure, in the original core book it's tech-only... but mark my words; it's one AP from that changing, and the high level spells, guaranteed will turn that back around forever.
So you're fear mongering for no reason?

>>53838194
>rolls a PF Wizard for Starfinder

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>>53835508
Holy fuck you guys burn through threads fast. Anyways. As per suggestion, reposting my interest check, interested in DMing a game, homebrew setting. Some people had questions about the nature of magic in the game, for fears that it was "low magic" (it's not).

So here is an interest check, neither setting is particularly original. Sounded like people were more interested in the latter.

The first is a setting in progress that is quite a bit more loosey goosey just by merit of scope. It's a space fantasy that tries to straddle the line near Cowboy Beebop or Firefly, with iron leviathan space-submarine battles, space lifts, and heavy industry. Slightly more on the diesel-punk side of things.

The other is a sort of anachronistic game set in a VERY fleshed out postwar world that has just recently come out of a conflict that developed from Napoleonic era technology to guerrilla/trench warfare much more swiftly than the world was really prepared for. Magic is HEAVILY persecuted, and with good reason. Horror, urban fantasy.

Which of those grabs your attention more? Any thoughts?

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/pgg/ help me, I can't figure out who is right. Are DHB's new character actual good or are people just sucking celeb dick?

>>53838298
The second, mainly because the first is very obviously Starfinder material.

>>53838303
Could you just go away, celeb anon? You're the only one who cares.

>>53838303
Sucking dick. Because if you make an entire party out of off-the-wall characters no one gets any good time in. It's contrast that makes parties interesting, and when they're all wildly different it gets stupid and bogged down.

>>53838303
I think it's partly them being honestly rather decent and partly Tuv outing himself as a fucking retard and people pointing to DHB's characters getting dismissed for >LADYKNIGHTS LADYKNIGHTS LADYKNIGHTS that people are pointing to DHB's character's as an example.

>>53838308
We were over this too, the working plan was to use naval combat rules to do more space-submarine combat. I have no intention of touching starfinder until it's done.

>>53838303

A bit of both, mostly they just want the shitpost about tuv even after he made amends. Like a bunch of whiny neckbeard vultures.

>>53838328
>off-the-wall characters
I'm not seeing how they're off the wall. Can you clarify.

That shouldn't be a problem here though even then since 3-4 of the 6 will be lady knights. If DHB got in he'd be one of maybe two different characters.

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>>53838141
Not a whole lot, that's for sure. His motivation to join the Crusade is to reunite with his estranged relatives in Mendev after losing everything to a rival in the West, but as you can see that's pretty fucking flimsy as motivations are concerned.

Should I make him inexorably tied to the Worldwound? Something like pic related, he *survived* the attack that burnt his world to ashes, but by the good graces of some Priests he was rescued. He was already a deeply spiritual man, but this could make him utterly obsessed with the belief that his fate and destiny are tied to Sarkoris.

>>53838337
Yeah I was there but
1. Naval combat is shit tier in Pathfinder
2. I legitimately don't see any reason not to wait for Starfinder unless it's somehow confirmed that ship combat has been delayed to a splat or something, it's a game built around this type of setting
I mean is there a specific reason you don't want to wait two months?

>>53838344
"Made amends"
People don't "make amends" here, look at Kawa a month before Tuv's sperg.

>>53838344
He basically said sorry not sorry

>>53838359

>all characters are exactly the same unless I say so

>>53835508
LFG - PF RAPPAN ATHUK (EU compatible times).

>>53838344
>>53838335
>>53838328
>>53838323
So do they fit WotR or not? I'm confused. A lot of people seem to be saying they don't fit the campaign at all/actively against the campaign's story & themes.

>>53838370
No, your right. I never claimed to know what I was doing, which is part of the reason there seemed to be a lot more interest (even on my part) for the latter game.

>>53838370

Kawase is a literal retard. This should not surprise you.

>>53838380
I'm confused. You said not all characters should be off the wall. I'm saying that not all characters will be because 3-4 will be lady knights from Mendev like Tuv said he'd pick. Sure they won't be the same character but Tuv wants pretty similar outward themes with Lady Knights. Also they'll be at least visually similar.

>>53838382

They could fit but all 5 of them together would be like what >>53838328 said.

You need at least one or two characters to set the standard and be the straight man.

>>53838298
Why don't you make a roll20 game and advertise?

What skills are necessary for a river pirate?

>>53838382
They fit brilliantly with the campaign's themes. Wrath of the Righteous is about holy conviction, fate, redemption and righteous indignation. If your character fits at least two of these things, they'll be golden.

>>53838428
That was the original problem. Everyone is either 16, 40, or just fucking awful.

>>53838430

>bluff
>climb
>escape artist
>prof - sailor
>knowledge - geography

>>53838430
Craft: Aqueduct

>>53838411

>all if them will wear heavy armor and use shields
>all armor and weapons are exactly the same in design

How do you faggots go gaga over stupid magical girl school shit when they're all going to be wearing the same uniforms and generally looking and acting the same in theme but as soon as someone wants to run a game about Knights you flip the fuck out?

>>53838430
Don't bother with Swim, that never comes up.
And Profession (Sailor) is for losers.

>>53838430
Knowledge (Geography,) Profession (Sailor,) Bluff, Acrobatics, Intimidate, Stealth and Survival. Also a bare minimum of Swim and Climb.

>>53838471
Does no-one appreciate polearms anymore?

>>53838471
>>all if them will wear heavy armor and use shields
>>all armor and weapons are exactly the same in design
Fuck nigga when did I said this?

They WILL probably all wear heavy of medium armor and they'll all be knights. They'll be a close thematic grouping. Are they all gonna be carbon copies? Shit I don't know.

>>53838406
Kawase attempted to apologize like four times in the thread, and like Tuv got shat on for it. Maybe rightfully, but the point is - you fuck up, you don't stop.

>>53838458
You expect here to be any better? A hint: it's way easier to gather people with a short premise then expand on it when you get a game.
I'd suggest trying game finder threads, but also just posting here when games are advertised

>>53838298
we already answered this. possibly twice. I know I answered at least once.

pathfinder should never ever be used for the first one. We can't be sure starfinder will be enough for it, but pathfinder? run. run as fast and as hard as you can. this system can only mangle, never handle, such a thing.

The second... can be done; reign of winter did work out. However the exact details (we're going to need to see that fucking policy mr.sessions, not just have you meander for five minutes about the principle of it that you'd like to have have been written) are definitely needed on the whole magic thing, because pathfinder CANNOT. DEAL. WITH. LOW. MAGIC. CAMPAIGNS. WELL. AT. ALL. and the amount of homebrew work needed for such compatibility could leave you with a more different game system than if you'd simply fucking grabbed a different game system!!!

>>53838495

Apparently not or they would realize that some people have applied using polearms. Some even have lighter armor or ride weird mounts.

>>53838516
Well originally I had done just that. What I did was ask here if there was some other secret sauce method of attracting players to games, and the consensus was "ask us here" at the time.

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>>53837527
Why did it get deleted?

>>53838529
Okay, pal, you aren't paying attention

The second game
is not
low magic

I agree about the first game, calm down, I'm just a lazy piece of shit and C/V'd it from threads past.

>>53838536
It was kind of a joke!

>>53838512

>someone screwed up and realizes it so lets punish them forever

What kind of fucked up logic is that?

>>53838580
Welcome to 4chan enjoy your stay? I mean Kawase himself seems to have basically rolled with it at this point so...continue shitting on him!

>>53838512
Thing is that Kawase keeps fucking up, so he deserves it.

>>53838603

He's a contrarian fuckhead who loves to argue semantics and like most people who post on /tg/, has an inflated sense of self-worth.

So yes continue to shit on him at every turn.

>>53838555
>magic is heavily persecuted and with good reason
>the party won't be low magic I swear
uh huh. this has "only the antagonists won't be getting shat on for having even so much as an [Su] ability because everyone can always tell with the players" written all over it.

>>53838534
There's no secret, many games here get popular because the GM or players involved are popular.
Otherwise, just pitch your idea and try to be as succint as possible, working on learning to sell your game.

>>53838629
Although his position about the game isn't really all that different from what is considered to be the norm on /pgg/. Yes he is semantic, but so is everyone else.

>>53838632
I don't know what to tell you then. I told you a thing, and you just flat out don't believe me. Regardless, the point is to have fun, and if that is a problem for you, then don't bother. If you want more information about what I'm talking about I'd be glad to post some for you, I just didn't want to flood the thread with textwalls for a mere interest check.

You'll have to pardon me for saying, but you're sound way, way too abrasive. Relax. Here...

What should I gestalt with Phantom Blade Spiritualist?

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Seeing as the thread is currently talking about game ideas....


What would you rather play in for a war themed campaign;

Imperial families and knights fighting against and Undead invasion of your falling empire

OR

A last alliance of elves and barbarian Men in a shakey confederation trying to fight against the dying of the light brought on by their industrious, soulless and war-like imperial neighbor

>>53838712
Put it in a pastebin.
Do note that Essentia, a "low magic" game, has next to no interest.

>>53838741
Both sound shitty but last alliance of elves and barbarian Men sounds less shitty.

>>53838741
p/y/rates.

>>53838366
I think that's a good idea, but listen.
Listen, this is gonna be a game changer
Make him a woman instead, but keep the same plot

>>53838749
>>53838749

Define 'shitty'?

>>53838752

Sorry not my thing but I am sure there is someone here who can do it justice.

>>53838344
>amends
>Didn't even apologzie to the people he personally insulted
>Is still basically just doing LADYKNIGHTS LADYKNIGHTS LADYKNIGHTS, so and amends are meaningless

I feel really bad for anyone applying to his game seriously at this point, its just a disaster waiting to unfold, just remember that if your character gets in, you didn't get in on Merit, you got in because you were fetishpicked.

>>53838712
Anon said to put up that magic-prosecution policy.
Which makes sense if that's going to be an important legal aspect of the fucking setting in a game where everything becomes fully fucking magical just to keep up with basic system mechanics - AS part of the basic system - by like level 4.

You wanted fucking advice, how is that not advice? Put what players will actually have to deal with in that sense in writing and stick to it. You said "this is law", so write the law. Make it part of the setting, instead of making it a giant red flag of every single GM who's ever said "oh magic won't be welcome".

How is that not advice? The rest of the premise sounds good, but people CANNOT roll PATHFINDER characters until they know exactly what the restrictions on magic are.

>>53838741
Run a heist game instead!

>>53838786

>you got in because you were fetishpicked.

How is that any different from a lot of the games here? Isn't PLD a game designed purely for rape fantasies? Hasn't all of the talk about Ensoulment been nothing but shipping and porn bait?

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>>53838747
I don't know what the fuck that is. Of note, none of this is set in stone, but I have some blurbs. Here. If you have any roleplay suggestions or comments I'm more than open to them.

https://pastebin.com/RzZRQtUz

>>53838806
Getting picked because of the DMs fetishes is not the norm, outside of PLD

And PLD is an abomination to me.

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>>53838786
Like every other DM ever only picks thanks to merit and not what tickles their dick. You fucking idiot. You foolish fool. This one just made the mistake of saying his preferences out loud, while the rest you likely figure out mid-game. And by then, it's too late.

>>53838806
Fucking Sigmund got picked.
I don't think Vult wanted daddy's yummy cummies.

>>53838806
>How is that any different from a lot of the games here? Isn't PLD a game designed purely for rape fantasies?

Have you not seen all the posting about Vult being a piece of shit and his crappy fucking jerkoff campaign that has nothing to do with PF yet continues to clog the general with logs?

>>53838829
I mean you don't come out and admit you're straight fetishpicking man.
>>53838839
>he doesn't want Daddy's yummy cummies in his tum tum tummy

>>53838802

That is not really what I'm good at and I feel like it would be too one note. I could maybe open the game with a heist (steal ancient artifact from a ship headed to Cheliax, get in over their heads ; try to rob a lightning train and find out its cargo was being sent to separatist to ignite a new war in Khorvaire, etc etc) but it wouldn't be the focus of the campaign.

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>>53838786
>Is still basically just doing LADYKNIGHTS LADYKNIGHTS LADYKNIGHTS, so and amends are meaningless

Wasn't that an impostor?

>>53838829
Nah, you pick based on fetish, and just blame it on schedule

>>53838850
Fuck off,Tuv

>>53838806
The talk of every game is fetish-talk. But that's more descriptive of /pfg/'s attitude towards games.

RotJR? Fetish-bait, all of them. Nevermind that the only actual sexual content has either been a joke, a trap (i.e. a joke at the PCs' expense), or a poorly thought out idea of how to raise the stakes.
LoBaF? Clearly fetish-picking going on there, I mean DHB was accepted.
Because that logic makes sense.
Blingmaker? Fetish-picked, Wubu clearly wanted to get DP'd.
Overlewd? ...Yeah, that one I'd believe, but then again, it was a game called Overlewd.

>>53838798
I see what you are saying. I get that. I guess what I'm trying to communicate is that there is a difference between what the people in the game are aware of as magic and what the meta rules of the game are "magical." I don't want to say that all (Su) abilities are illegal, because that isn't the case, and the characters within the setting aren't aware of what all is supernatural. When people say "magic" what they're really saying is... well, shit they don't understand. That part of the setting does NOT exist to dissuade people from playing anything magical. It also extends to the fey, and the elves, and others in the setting. It is suppose to be flavour. I don't know how to better elaborate on it.

The fact that I'm trying to impress upon you that it's not a major concern hopefully conveys what I'm going for? Not sure.

>>53838850
There were a few fake Tuv trips floating around, I got tired of checking them and just assumed they were all impostors after the apology.

>>53838850
We don't know. Rather, someone who may be an imposter kept it going, but "uh I'm sorry I sperged out" never actually made amends, only went quiet.

In other words it came out more as a "oh shit, sorry I got caught everyone" then silence.

>>53838069
Shadowrun, IN SPACE!

>>53838850
No, he later confirmed it was him in the Discord

His 'oh it was an imposter' lie was so fucking obvious it was called out in the thread anyways,

Like how do you fuck up that bad "Oh it was an impostor but I share the exact same opinions on everything as the impostor as demonstrated by my follow up posts."

Hey what dice do you roll to get a fucking life you stupid nerds

>>53838895
1d20

unfortunately my modifier on it is negative.

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> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljwd?Bringing-Out-the-Big-Guns-in-Starfinder

New Starfinder article about guns.

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Are there any ways to get strength to attack when you're using a bow? I ask because i want to basically make pic related, but I prefer STR faggotry of DEX, especially since it'd let me wear an actual damn suit of armor.

>>53838845
I did ;_;

>>53838806
8/10 would reply again.

>>53838889
>No, he later confirmed it was him in the Discord

Never saw that.

>>53838911
Yes, but you have to have tits.

>>53838749

Sorry for being insistent but I would appreciate a response? I genuinely want to improve upon my campaign ideas and pitches.

>>53838747
I want to apply to Essentia but I just have absolutely NO ideas for a character and am busy already with a load of games

>>53838889
Got a screen cap of that?

>>53838936
That's fine, I usually play female characters anyways. what's the way that requires this?