Infinity General-FNG was awake to make new thread edition.

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Battlereport-fag here again. Documented a battle between friends yesterday, here's the best of.

Used a small flashlight for occasional lighting. Shone through templates for colored lighting.

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>>53831725
Okay, this one's possibly my favourite. Colored acrylate looks amazing with just a little light shone on it.

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>>53831764
End of spam. These were taken on the fly, without interrupting the game. Stressful, but pretty solid I'd think.

First for remove Nomads

Which faction is closest to having Ormians, Pan'o or Haqqislam?

>>53831640
Nice shots and smart use of transluscent plastic.

Why do we hate Nomads again?

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This pic was made during another game. The sheet of paper is an armory proxy, with marked entrances. We turned off the light and used the flashlight with a red camomarker.

It's nothing special. But this inspired me to another idea that I'm gonna explore:

Visual cyperspace for Hackers in battlereport pics. It's easy, really. Take a note whenever two hackers battle it out with programs. After gaming is over, prepare a small area to look techy, maybe tron-like. Paint some circuit board patterns with text marker f.e. and place the hackers inside. Turn of light to black out the surroundings, use UV light to make those text marker patterns glow. That should produce a pic one can throw into a battlereport whenever some brains get blasted.

>>53832629
>Ormians
I consider myself generally familiar with a good amount of popular sci-fi. What the frell are Ormians?

>>53833707
It's Armenians in some filthy slav language.

>>53833707
Sounds baller as fuck. Can probably have fun with TAG possession and such in a similar fashion.

>>53833402
>frell
There will never be a new scifi show as fun as farscape.

>>53833775
Oh, I was thinking it could be Formians, which are an ant people from DnD when I was looking it up.
>>53833781
You switched up the replies there, kiddo. But yeah, just as soon as some sci-fi series seems to be building up to be decent it gets cancelled or no one watches it to begin with. Well, at least there's going to be that new Dark Crystal
movie on net flicks. Speaking of that platform Voltron's kind of fun, too bad the fandom's obnoxious.

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If you could add one new Sectorial to Infinity, what would you add?

>>53834014
Like new as in not based on any existing units or new as in with some of the existing units that already exist?

If the latter, "White Banner" sectorial of Huang Di, as I've got quite the fixation and liking for "snow" planets and badass warriors who come from it or hide in it. SW:ESB is my favorite for a reason.

That'd include Daofei, multiples, Guilang, multiples, and linkable Zhanshi as well as a Tiger Soldier and Hac Tao. All various units I absolutely love. I'd also make them introduce another unit to represent Korea (that isn't a remote like the Son-Bae but could be something like inferior combat jump or otherwise AD Light Infantry or just a new line trooper). And then the Invincible Army can come in with Acheron Falls and I can doubledib

>>53834105
>>53834014
Oh yeah, forgot to mention Shaolin Monks who are based in there. It'd be a sectorial with an actual cheap warband unit. That'd be pretty dope. Maybe introduce some kind of Character like a Bruce Lee recreation or whatever that can turn them regular and linkable so there'd finally be a use for the stupid combi-rifle monk no one uses. With the Rui Shi remote I think it'd be easy to be set with that, and look cool doing it.
>>53833955
I think I recall Valerya Grosmov being a PanO Atek from Albania. Albania, Armenia, close enough, what's the difference?

>>53833775
Armenians live in Armenia. The diaspora is called Ormians. It just like you have sefarids and ashkenazis, and plain jews in Isreal.

>>53834188
Albania is a muslim country. Armenia was the first Christian Kingdom. So the difference is like between hamburger and a pork chop .

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We're having a discussion about the dodge movement rules.

People claim that since pic related, the following is implied:

> Dodge moves in reactive turn follow normal move rules.
> Meaning: Model A annonces BS attack skill with combi rifle, targeting model B. Model B is in partial cover. Model B AROs with dodge, pointing out the 2" dodge path he will take if the dodge is successful.

> This path would take him out of partial cover.

> For this BS attack, Model A fires against B with NO cover mod, since B moves out into the open.

I think this feels wrong, but I haven't formulated my arguments yet. First thing that comes to my mind is that dodge move doesn't behave entirely like a normal move, since if you get killed during a normal move, you collapse at the end of your pointed out path. So this happens truly simultaneously.
If you get killed by failing your dodge roll, you collapse where you stood, the path is not taken. At least I think so.

>>53834014
OSS

>>53833207
Weeaboo faction.

>>53835777
nomads weeabo not honoraburu japanese sectorial

>>53835883
Glorious Nippon sectorial is for tasteful people who enjoy japanese culture .

Nomads are for closeted shameless weeaboos who fap to catgirls and traps.

I'm interested in starting Infinity. Could anyone give a quick rundown of play styles for the different factions? I'm most interested in an up-close-and-personal army that runs at you with shotguns or swords if that's viable in this game. Thanks!

>>53836054
JSA with motorcycles and domaru core led by neko.

>>53836178

>not charging-targe demomen the sectorial

>>53836054
Anyone have the copy-pasta for factions? don't feel like typing out out again

>>53836054
Aleph ASS greek and the Caledonians from Ariadna sectorials are other choices.

You need to understand that they are better at those options, but melee is never the first choice usually.

>>53836054
This question again? Well every faction has a few units that can do what you're talking about, but there are a few factions that do it better than others (especially within a subfaction with extra bonuses for theming your army).

The Yu Jing's Japanese Sectorial Army has about the best and some of the best close combat specialists which also get protection from being Heavy Infantry with armor or Thermal-Optic Camouflage. The Oniwaban, for example, which is a unit you can find in its starter, has both TO Camo, a means to get really close with superior infiltration, a shotgun, and a sword sharpened to the edge of an atom. Another staple unit for them, the Domaru, has decent shooting with a combination of two wounds from its armor and high close combat skills with availability of template weapons or other heavy weapons. Plus in cc they can go berserk to basically auto-hit in combat in return to being auto-hit (but its armor helps protect it better than enemy can be protected. JSA's also has bikes like those gangs from Akira that can really get up close fast to shotgun or shoot one's face. They also have the technically best Close combat units in the game with the max Stat (25) and highest Martial Arts Level (5) to be found on two of their characters (Miyamoto Musashi and Shinobu Kitsune), both of which have either an AP+EXP output (which does three rolls halving armor) or monofilament (which 60% of the time instantly deletes a unit if they didn't already take a critical hit from rolling a twenty and adding five to the roll)

Best runner ups for that are Aleph's Assault Sub-Section (steel phalanx) which has a plethora of options with ODD, smoke, and heavy armor to compliment their elite skills and fireteams who can gang up at uncomfortable close ranges.

The Caledonia sectorial from Ariadna has its strengths in being able to field hardy werewolves and cheap high CC type units.

You're more likely to shoot first, cc if you can do it for an uneven trade.

>>53836054
I'll paint the picture in broad

PanO: Supa shooty* (but no smoke sources)
*their Knightly orders do stabby ok, but would rather shoot
Yu Jing: Stabby but also shooty because this isn't a stabby game

Haqqislam: Shooty, but also with higher number of models than the first two, and overall more specialist oriented. +1 WIP the faction with a trade-off in less potent gunz.

Nomads: Board control with mines, hacks, camo, smoke, and gunz.

Ariadna: less shooty, sometimes stabby, but overall more numbers and a lot less vulnerable to hacking. Also has werewolves for some reason

Aleph: More elite units with better stats and equipment, but of course balanced out by fielding less models (beware netrods and posthumans tho). They'll do shooty and stabby with plenty of units, otherwise generally snooty shooty

Combined Army: generally leans to elite as well, a few sneaky units, the red klingon monkeys are more brute force. Exotic stuff will also be found.

Tohaa: all their tech's biotech, no remotes, has extra armor on most of their core units that make them more elite and also lots of three man link teams. Some stabby but mostly shooty and plenty of shenanigans.

>>53831433
>>RPG Character Creation
>http://infinity.modiphiusapps.hostinguk.org/
So I know nothing about the RPG but this is super fun, albeit not everything seems to work.

>>53836054
Honestly you can build every faction barring maybe two around multiple styles of play. It would be better to get to grips with the core game before deciding, because you'll be able to evaluate units at that point.

You could play pretty much any faction to account for what you want.

>>53836918
>best close combat specialists

As someone who plays Yu Jing, just started the game about 3 months ago...I am so let down constantly by the close combat in the game :(. I love Infinity too but this shit happens all the time;

>Finally deliver Shinobi. Hey she even was able to base two models for MA Level 5 shit! Roll one die, they get a crit. Welp...
>In Hidden Deployment but ever model around ends up being a flamer, that will happily trade for my Oniwaban/Ninja in points when I charge in
>Get in close combat, it actually lasts a turn due to multiple wounds.
>They shoot my model in a good range band in close combat. I can't even ARO and get blasted.

I just constantly see my close combat specialists get mowed down. Seems like it's just not a part of the game CB wants to see done.

>>53837854
You're probably just playing her wrong or have a really open table. Shinobu using MA4 has an 82.5% to auto kill literally any model in the game assuming their ftf roll is a 15 or less. There are games when she get's burned to death, but also games where she can just cut in half a 50pt HI or an 80pt TAG.

>>53837854

You're not using them correctly or your opponent is smart. Or the maps you're playing on aren't accustomed for CqC ( this is actually a really big factor).

Oniwabans are great for taking out tags.

>>53838189
Oniwabans are also great for some situational missions like Rescue or the hunting party one.

>>53837854

A large thing about infinity is making a list for the mission. As well as using that list effectively. Even if you're not equipped to take out the enemy you can still win.

>>53836054
Ill take a shot here too.

PanOceana: The hyperpower. They have the highest tech and the best shooting. Straightforward and powerful army. Their soldiers also have lower willpower than most. "But how could this happen....I'm with PanO?!"

YuJing: Asian #2. Really wants to be PanO. Has good but not quite as good tech and worse shooting. Makes up for it with martial arts and such tricks. Also specialized in Heavy Infantry. Has great Close Combat but close combat is a really really really small part of this game.

Ariadna: The low-tech faction. No power armor, no laser guns, no nanopulsers. Just rifles and armor piercing rifles. Ariadna has lots of camouflage, and nobody has more than 1 wound. They also have the most armor-piercing metal. They tend to play an aggressive horde in my experience with even the strongest trooper really lagging compared to YuJing or PanO power armored infantry. This doesn't mean bad. Their best guys tend to be glass cannons by comparason. One time PanO and YuJing worked together to clone William Wallace and have him destroy Adriana. It didn't work out.

Nomads: Powerful Medium Infantry and hackers. I know little but I hear their culture is crazed internet addicts who hate AI.

AELPH: Small model count army with tons of special characters based on Greek Myth. Run by the benevolent AI AELPH. Not a fan personally.

Combined Army: THE bad guys of infinity. A small model count elite army containing Evil planet of the Apes, various monsters, and reaper from overwatch, all working for an evil alien AI named EL that wants humanities worlds.

Tohaa: Aliens obsessed with the number 3 and biotechnology. They are a high skill floor army. I hear incompetent Tohaa get shot and die easily but a skilled player will make their Triad fireteams to loads of work. They fight the combined army, and would like for humans to fucking help. Assholes.

>>53839510
I cant believe I forgot Haqqislam.

Hockeyslam: Think the Moors in space. Golden Age Islam all over again. Looks like terrorist but has best medical technology. Tons of doctors to heal your army. They also bill themselves as the good guys even though most of their best troopers use illegal ammo and gadgets. They specialize in Light Infantry with heavy armor being the exception among their forces, not the rule. They also apparently bought most of the shotguns in universe because every basic dude in haqqislam seems to have a fucking shotgun.

Yo with the RPG am I missing something or is saving your Life Points for additional careers just a way better deal than anything else you can possibly spend them on?

I'm not sure about this career path system. It has elements of true random gen, "make it work" like say WFRP 2e but it also seems pretty easy to game if you tilt at the right moment.

>>53837978
>>53838189

I don't see TAGS in my meta, but if I did I could see how monofilament would be nasty.

My opponent(s) are good players and our tables are actually more dense than most tables I see online. Almost to the point of being too dense probably.

The issue is I see a lot of templates. So even if I stealth/deliver an Oniwaban, many of the models I would like to kill can just go down with me as they template. Or, if I do kill one model--she gets dropped quickly.

It's very order intense to pull off a stealth run with her if my opponent covers AROs well, so it's very tough to get her back to safety. Even then, if I do--it doesn't feel like a very efficient use of orders to deliver her, kill, then get her safe. Seems like I could have done a lot more with guns/grunts.

And I'm open to the fact that perhaps I'm playing her wrong.

>>53839722
I think her hidden deployment really shines around objective missions. She doesnt need to make a huge run and kill a bunch, she can just chill around a central objective, then turn 2 or whenever she can just show up, move, stab something and take the objective, it's extremely hard to deal with.

>>53834014
Southeast Asian Yu Ying.
Vietcongs, Malay Islander, Outlaws and lawkeepers of Bangkok (which is canon).

>>53834580
Avtually quite in interesting.
Related if you dodge and declare your path into a mine LoS, if you suceed the dodge you trigger the mine and dodge it.

>>53840185
Yeah, people try to force it turn one, unnecessary.

>>53839722
Dense tables are a boon for some TAGs, especially those with movement skills like Superjump or Climbing plus.
Even the Yoroi might enjoy it with the koalas.

>>53834014
>>53835883
A Nomads Japanese nationalist resistance force living on a ship they stole from Yu Jing with lots of units named after youkai.

>>53839722
Are we talking generic Oniwaban or Shinobu? The generic Oniwaban is kind of locked in as an alpha striker, but is decently kitted out for the job with a BS on top of the melee skills.

Shinobu requires a bit more finesse, but is ultimately more versatile. Approaching with the sole purpose of getting into melee denying a good amount of her skill set. Smoke allows her to waltz around with impunity unless you opponent has mines or MSV2+. More importantly, it lets her put up that smoke exactly where it will support the rest of the troops. Smoke that TR or missile launcher on overwatch.

She packs a nanopulser. Toss smoke and intuitive fire to use it relatively safely.

She also has a combi rifle. Use that to shoot people in the back. It also allows her to go into suppression, which is a pretty good idea as long as your opponent isn't putting down direct templates.

Save your blade for really choice targets like an HI, TAG, or Lt. Choose and stack those mods appropriately.

That said, often she's better as a threat to keep the big boys in check.

>>53841202
>after youkai
>not after touhous
You had one job.

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>>53840743
>Vietcongs
Wouldn't they just be Asian Ariadna?

>>53841771
And Anon delivered.

>>53842323
Probably more like Asian Acontecimento.

>>53841771
What's the point if they aren't actually Touhous?

>>53842886
The point is being the most weeaboo possible.

>>53831873
Mad over fur , bruh?

>>53837373
Yeah, the program hasn't been updated for a while. Probably going to be updated when the book is actually released, which should be soon, given that the whole thing is now with CB for a final round of checking.

Also, new adventure in the preview folder. Varuna this time.

>>53842772
>>53842323

Mix of acon and ariadna perhaps?

>>53842323
>>53842772
>>53846098
I'd probably say just using MRRF? A board covered with infiltrators, camo tokens and mines, and a metric fuckton of sappers with a heady seasoning of D.E.P. seems pretty in line with a Vietcong army. Moblots are probably the unit that fits the least, unfortunately also being the one with Jungle terrain.

I just rarely see Acon without the real key players being MI Bagh Mari or Sikhs or their HI Guarda and Montessa.

>>53843731
I should go read the book because it seems like sometimes you get a really OP character with the random generator. Tripping into 3 or 4 careers seems to be really powerful in terms of stat gain.

>>53847900
>Tripping into 3 or 4 careers seems to be really powerful in terms of stat gain.
Yeah, you're supposed to have to spend Life Points to do that.

>>53847976
Yeah but I mean you have life points to spend, right?

>>53847976
It's a bug in the chargen app, you're only supposed to gain stats on your first career.

>>53848201
Are there plans to add more faction-specific careers? Right now you have Special Forces which seems to cover just about every troop you might actually play in Infinity, but the actual faction-specific ones like Reverend Agent or Hassassin Fiday (wouldn't just Hassassin Agent fit more?) just seem be sort of random and single.

They're also a little boring. Being a Fiday doesn't really get you anything special, and there's no way AFAICS to end up with Neurocinetics or something as a Reverend. You can score genetic enhancements randomly but I'd sort of expect that to be incorporated into careers, and to play into where you're from and what you do (higher for Bakunin Police for example). If I used these I would definitely heavily modify them as they are now.

>>53850326
Probably in new books. Like we don't have any real stats for TAGs even though pilots are a career.

stop playing the game and start bumping the thread

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBzCpj5ujyg&feature=youtu.be
Bumping with dice tower

>>53855230
Neato.

Question when fighting against Ariadna. Is it normal for them to have a order or so more at points cost? Me and my Haqqislam friend always seem to have significantly fewer orders at even points.

For that matter, how many cheerleaders is enough at 300pts?

I've been tempted to get into Infinity for a while now, but I'm wondering if anyone could give me any help or recommendations? Is it newbie friendly? Thanks in advance.

>>53855588
IMO at 300pts you should no longer really need cheerleaders.

>All the stores that give cheap shipping to your country have the most poorly stocked missmash of minis so you can't ever get what you want in one order.
Fucking Trudeau I swear to fuck.

>>53856678
Buying Operation Red Veil or Operation Icestorm is probably the best way to start if you have someone else to play with. You can split the box/cost and it has scenarios of escalating complexity.

It's a bit overpriced as just some minis + those scenarios if you treat it like a board game (you can get it for about $70 from third parties and I would say an equivalent board game would be like $40, $50? I'm not US so might be getting dollar costs wrong). But you can build from there if you actually like the game and there are worse rip-offs out there. Thankfully you don't need to pay for any additional physical books unless you want to because all the rules are free online, and Infinity has a supported army builder online that's one of the best I've seen for a wargame.

>>53856768
if you buy from your enemies, they win

>tfw ordering infinity from the FLGS takes about three times longer than any other miniature manufacturer

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>>53856883
This is what Operation Red Veil (newer one) gets you in terms of miniatures. All these units are usable but once you're playing 300pts or ITS (Infinity Tournament System) official scenarios you probably won't want to be using them all in one list.

Because these are units from two different factions intended for vs. matches it's best if you can split this with someone, both for cost and for learning too.

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>>53856927
This is what Icestorm gets you. There will presumably be more of these to cover the other factions in the future.

Happy to talk about the factions featured here if you're interested. If one of the factions you want isn't featured here, then the best way to start is probably to buy a starter pack (basically equivalent to one side of these boxes, minus one miniature) + plus some individual blisters and try to start playing 150pts or 200pts matches with other people.

>>53856716
That is both very interesting and good to know. I would have presumed as points scale goes up, having more orders would trump having addition high cost troopers.

I figured you only need a couple of high power models if you have plenty of orders to feed them. But I'm very new and one of our play group kinda dragged me kicking and screaming to 300 points.

I was somewhat worried about not having picked up any more lower cost troopers for fear of being drowned in cheap orders.

>>53834580
As i understand it, the point at which model A shoots determines the range and cover modifiers. His placement after dodge is part of the declared ARO and not the initial state of the action sequence

>>53857157
>I would have presumed as points scale goes up, having more orders would trump having addition high cost troopers.
>I figured you only need a couple of high power models
I mean yeah people do play like this but it's cancer. Playing ITS all-comers type of thing helps because you need specialists and killing is less important.

I think CB should consider as the game goes forward how they prioritize higher cost models. I hate playing against the "kurwaspam" cheerleader swamp lists but DESU I no longer consider those cheerleaders because they are the list.

Playing Haqq I can end up about 14-15 models without really having any dedicated cheerleader base at all, maybe a couple of Naffatun which I would have anyway to help defend my side of the table.

If you like playing that delivery system kinda list where you run one or two threats and the rest is orders then yeah you should have tons more of cheerleaders.

>>53857324
I'm not a fan of that, and it makes me glad to know I never need to buy another Zanshi. I have the Yu Jing half of red veil, a box of Aragoto and a box of Domoru, and realized that this quickly filled up 300 points, even running just 1 domoru.

>>53857324
Haqq are OP bullshit faction so it makes sense that you don't need cheerleaders just take more fuck broken ghazi for zero points.

>>53857488
>Haqq are OP bullshit faction
lol

>>53857460
I do think outside of sectorials you end up not running a lot of HI.

>>53857529
Ghazi are the most cost effective units in the game and Haqq gets all the tricks like holo too.

>>53857583
Nigga I've been playing Haqq since before Tohaa were around please do not talk to me about which faction gets more for less.

I am sure every player of every faction looks enviously at something another faction gets and feels it is outrageously priced. Ghazi are very good now, sure. I'm sure a lot of people will max them in their lists - they don't really work for the topic we're discussing though because you can't use Ghazi orders to power other units.

>>53857619
>I play Haqq.
Of course you do.

Opinion discarded.

>>53856678
Faction rundown is in the OP

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>>53857635
All these flavours, my man.

>>53857682
>Can't look at your faction objectively because you play them.
Sure thing kiddo.

>>53857583
>Ghazi are the most cost effective units in the game
yea-

>and Haqq gets all the tricks like holo too.
nigga everyone gets pretty much all the tricks

>>53857753
Who else gets Doc Plus anyway?

>>53857799
>who else gets the thing that is ACTUALLY the faction signifier
>let's just pretend I wasn't talking about holo before
fuck off you cancerous cunt

>>53857843
>nigga everyone gets pretty much all the tricks
>except this one
You proved yourself wrong no need to go full retard.

Just apologize like a man and move on.

>>53857843
calm down you dumb fuck

>>53857799
Could have sworn the hospitalers and sophotects got it, but I guess I was wrong.

weird CB didn't sprinkle it out a bit more

>>53857913
The only other faction that gets access as far as I know is Bakunin because they get access to Avicenna from Haqq.

>>53857878
Dude, everyone has a thing or two. What do you play that Doctor Plus is worth a post just to incite?

At least in my mind, a good portion of Haqqislam's tactical identity is in fighting dirty (all the illegal ammo) but who do you play that you are acting like its bullshit?
PanO?

>>53857913
>calm down you dumb fuck
Dude is literally
>Ghazi are broken!
>Haqqislam gets holo!
>Haqqislam gets Doc+!
In no case was his point related to the argument being had or his previous point. Anyone who considers that worth posting should just fuck right off out of this thread (which is generally pleasant and helpful).

>>53857977
>cancerous namefag

>>53857981
>autism

Looks like the thread is shit today.

>>53857934
oh, I forgot about her

merc/character units are a bit of a grey area since not everyone'll use them

>>53857999
what do you play in infinity? Can we talk about that?

Why are you so irritated?

>>53858200
>"you mad" posting is all you have
confirmed cancer

>>53858237
Id like to talk to you about infinity. Thats why I remade the thread when there wasn't one. I'd like to talk about infinity.
I play Yu Jing, and tend to lose a lot.

What do you play in it?

Or did you come here just to shitpost?

>>53858313
Calm down sperg.

No ones biting.

>>53858330
What do you mean by that?

Alternatively....
What do you play in Infinity? Have you painted any of your army lately? Anything fun lately?
I'm fielding bikers for the first time tonight after work. I expect them to get shot one turn 1 but I wanna go fast.

>>53858038
Well we're getting 6 more mercs this month!

>>53858430
mercs are almost as cancer as this filtered name faggot tbqh

Make some actual stuff we want Corvus Cucks.

>acheron falls 2016

>>53858430
and I could not give less of a shit about this month's releases because of it

Holy shit, why are these threads so toxic lately?

>>53855588
Haqq can be pretty spammy, but if you're playing against shithead Ariadna players -- or French/American players, sort of locked into it by their sectorials -- you can expect to see 15-20 miniatures on the board at the minimum. Ariadna has legitimate issues running single combat groups because everything is so damn cheap. I personally rarely run anything outside of 10, unless I want to meme some gopnik Irmandinhos.

>>53857157
As far as point increases, it again heavily depends on army. Dealing with Haqq and some Ariadna factions, you're basically just forced to grow outwards rather than in quality because of AVA, point costs, and actual effectiveness.

Kurwaspam is just a shitty thing to do, but it's also effective so a lot of Ariadna players will exploit the shit out of out. With 300 points, they can have a nice selection of scalpels while still being able to dump 10 orders into each.

>>53857583
Haqq are really solid and have both a nice mixture of gimmicks -- Holo, Doctor +, Impersonation, Regeneration, Smoke+MSV2, Viral -- and are still capable of spamming the fuck out of hte board, but I wouldn't really say they're hilariously OP or anything. Are they in a good place, balance-wise? Certainly. Are they unbeatable or far above the rest of the pack? Not really.

>>53858200
Think he's the dude that was fussing at screaming autistically last thread, too.

>>53858478
>This stupid fag is back talking about toxic threads.
Poetic irony.

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>>53858498
>contributes literally nothing but bitching and moaning
>still has the gall to flame people actually discussing the game as being the issue
ok

>>53858564
>Going full retard and "you mad" posts
>Discussing the game.
Why don't you post your shitty paintjobs again and talk about how great they are.

>>53858498
He had something to say about infinity.
>>53858430
So did this guy.
>>53858466
Even this post technically contains and idea of merit, and one not previously in the thread.
>>53858498
But you my friend. What have you been running lately? Which faction is your favorite? Do you at least have a favorite model?
How are you?

>>53858606
Sick burn bro. Wanna post your paintjobs? I promise I'll be nice. I just wanna see how your infinity army is coming along.

>>53858710
Literally all but one of those posts are mine you insane autist.

>>53858739
He's pretty fucking clearly referencing my post that you were responding to in that first reply, cancerfag. The second reply is this someone with actual merit to speak of. And your post is likely the third which is -- unsurprisingly -- just bitching and shitposting.

You're literally shitposting harder than someone with shitposter in their name. How do you manage that?

>>53858782
Guess you better step your game up considering you got universally shat on last thread for being a stupid retard laughing at your own stupid retard jokes.

Which Infinity girl would you like to be raped by?

>>53837854
If it's got MA level 5 then we're talking about a model with a EXP weapon or Monofilament weapon. Also crits on 14+ or 15+.

>>53858807
Margot is a beast 100% my guy.

Guys why are you responding to him? The only reason he's still posting is because you reply to everything he says.

Stop feeding him (you)s.

In other news.

Steel Phalanx seems prety easy to assemble a small army for.

You guys think I could make a decent list out of a Thorakitai and Myrmidon Enomotarchs with net rods and and Agema?

>>53858969
>You guys think I could make a decent list out of a Thorakitai and Myrmidon Enomotarchs with net rods and and Agema?
No.

Get some meat on those bones (ie bigger guys/named dudes like Ajax and friends who can link into your fireteams)

>>53859003
Think he was planning of bringing them anyways, since he was talking about running Enomotarchs.

>>53858969
Absolutely. Our local Steel Phalanx player swears by Thorakitai.

>>53859003
I was thinking the Dire Foes character, Phoenix, and Eudoros.

>>53859102
Phoenix is solid. I don't know much about Eudoros.
Thrasymedes is also popular. Or was.

>>53859180
Eudoros brings ecclipse grenades, MK12, Arm 3 BTS 6, and the Number 2 rule to a fireteam at 0 SWC.

He's probably the most replaceable though.

>>53859271
Post your theoretical list it's easier for people to critique.

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>>53859364
Was thinking something like this. Thorakitai group is for occupying a board area/dealing with pests with decent AROs and weapon selection. Mymidon group is for search and destroy.

Smoke and Agema combo is obvious.

Snifferbot is a free order unless I need sniffers. FObot is a free order unless I need his Sensor. Netrods are netrods.

Random 5th Thorakitai exists because I had 13 points left over and I can use him to refill my fireteam if someone dies.

A mate threw me a cuple of his impulse purchases. Ive got an Ariadnan Dozer and their spec ops trooper, what can I use these for in Haqqislam? Daylami or Ghulams seem obvious? I dont mind doing a little converting.

>>53859430
You don't need Netrods in that setup really.
Usually they're more for pumping orders in your super units. Like say you take Achilles+Ajax+Hector or something and can't get to 10 orders in 1 group.

Hopefully someone with more knowledge can help out since I don't really play ALEPH..buuut that would save you 21 points with the thor so you could almost squeeze in a dactyl or something.

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Tell me about the USariadna..ians.

How do they play? Is it worth getting the army pack? What goes well with the army pack?

>>53858478
>you can expect to see 15-20 miniatures on the board at the minimum
That's not true. Nobody needs to run more than 20 orders ever, and anyone who regularly does is cancer. 14-16 is plenty even for Ariadna. It depends on if your meta buys in to the kurwa bullshit.

>>53859992
>How do they play?
Armor 3 everywhere
kinda slow on some units
also some infiltrating camo guys.
>Is it worth getting the army pack?
It's just like the
>>53856927
>>53856951
packs except without the second army. Grunts, Minutemen, Foxtrots, and Marauders are all solid units, so getting more of those isn't a bad idea.

>>53860013
Well, like I said in that post. I do my best to always keep myself to a LI-legal list of 10 or so. But 15 or so is the average for French and USAriadna lists, at least in my experience. No-one needs to run that many, but that isn't doing to stop kurwa-spam from existing. The Polish meta is proof enough of that, and in my city in the states at least -- where straight up 7 out of 13 players run Ariadna -- we have to deal with our fair share. I've been loving actually playing LI just to remove that level of bullshit, but if your meta focuses on Ariadna or Haqq, there's a good chance you are going to have to deal with cheap spam flopping around the board.

>>53859992
You have theoretically some of the best AVA Total troops in the game. Grunts are simply amazing, and I'm incredibly envious of the ARM 3 garrison troops. You have a lot of really weird shenanigans you play play, but I honestly can't give a solid recommendation. Minutemen and their equivalents across Ariadna -- Vet Kazaks, Moblots -- are always a nice workhouse, but you have so many unique units that have no real counterpart, that I really don't think I'd be a good recommendation. You've just got a lot of weird but fun options, like

I will say, fucking Hardcases. If you aren't playing LI, they might be shitty but paying 12 points for Infiltrating Ambush Camo that provide some dummies for your Foxtrot Rangers seems comically good. One of our USAriadna player runs at least 1-2, especially when we aren't playing LI and it forces you to really think when you approach mid-field and see 3-5 camo markers, know one of them is almost certainly a BSG Foxtrot, but can't know which.

Also, they have the most memetic reply to the antipode threat which becomes hilariously relevant now-a-days. The French actually dealt with the antipodes diplomatically, the Scots war off and on with them. While Hell's Angels and Native Americans go scalping against antipode tribes, the state as a whole literally built a wall.

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Hey, it's me. If you know me, you know my nomads and their "tribal tats."

Here's me posting a WIP bump of my ugly minis.

Yes, I see the mold line, not my model so I'm not too bothered to take all the effort to adjust it now.

>>53858478
Naw, top tier Ariadna lists top out at 16-17 regular orders.

>>53861014
>But 15 or so is the average for French and USAriadna lists, at least in my experience
That's fine. But 15 on average is very different to 15-20 minimum.

>>53861393
>>53861389
Fair enough, misspoke. I meant more to say that 15 was the average, with 20 as the more likely ceiling. I've honestly only seen more than two combat groups... twice, but especially against USAriadna and our Haqq player, 20 is far from an unusual sight.

>>53859430
You're light on specialists, drop some thorikitae and take dactyl doctor/engie for ITS. Thrasymedes plus the myrm hacker is overkill with so few repeaters. Go high or go low on hackers, not in between. Eudoros is meh, maybe take a spitfire myrm and upgrade the CoC myrm officer to lieutenant or take Machaon. Thorikitae are your defensive backline, so don't load them out with your swc.

>>53858807
I want to fug a djanbazan

>>53861341
GECKOS A CUTE! CUTE!
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>>53862173
Can you qualify low in specialists? His list has a CoC, Paramedic, 2 FO, Assualt Hacker, and the FO bot.

>>53859430
How do I save a list into a pdf like this?

>>53862173
Thrasymedes isnt a hacker, he's just a specialist operative.

>>53862599
Download a print to pdf program and when you print you select the printer and it will pop up.

>>53862636
>Download
Windows actually comes with one built in.

>>53862670
Windows 10?

>>53862681
Yeah, and I think 8 had it too. Microsoft Print to PDF.

>>53862589
No doctor, no engineer. Low as in low quality, not numbers
>>53862621
I got mixed up and thought he had Thamyris.

How heavily will I get memed on for playing Tohaa when I already play something as cheesy as Aleph?

>>53862707
A doc would be good, but there isn't anything worth engineering unless you really want that sensor back. The list doesn't rely on E/M vulnerable dudes or big individual rambos either, so even the secondary uses aren't that great. Putting one of each specialist in every list just for its own sake isn't worth it.

>>53862949
I'll meme on you. Aleph is only at all cheesy because of posthumans, they're a pretty normal army aside from that. Tohaa is all cheese all the time.

>>53863238
Hmm yeah maybe drop Eudros for the Doc character and replace a dude for the Spitfire Myrm.

CoC is useful right?

>>53863431
Very. Being able to continue normally when your Lt dies is great.

>>53859430
Running Eurodos and not running a link team is a mistake. Also running an the chain of command in alink team is really risky.

I would say remove the Thrasymedes and a thorktai as well as the daleth rebot. You can easily spend that on better points. Same wih the Agema, you could switch it for Teucer.

>>53865957
>remove daleth and Thrasimedes
>upgrade Mk12 Agema to Teucer

Opinion discarded

>>53865957
Wait, why do you think Eurodos isn't linked?

>>53866458
Cos having Eudoros in a 2 man link isn't as good as a 3 man link. Doubling the chance for and Eclipse grenade to go down, uping the burst of MK12, thats pretty good. I usually run him in as a 3 man link and its pretty impressive.


>>53866027
There are many options you can change, the Agema is good but why take 29 points when you could get Atlanta for 10 points more or a Ferubarch for 11 points extra. (To be fair the meta in my LGS see's the use of Ferburachs more)

As for Daleth and Theasimdes why not just take Scylla with 2 bots and killer hacking device. You'll have board control as well as heavy flamers everywhere and chance and that will save you like 14 points.

Scylla is almost always a must have in a steel phalanx list.

>>53867287
Steel phalanx links can go up to 4...

>>53834580
you cant fucking dodge out of cover. dodges have to be towards more cover, so a model in partial cover goes prone or gets in full cover. i leave these threads for a few months and you cunts forget all the rules

>>53867287
>There are many options you can change, the Agema is good but why take 29 points when you could get Atlanta for 10 points more or a Ferubarch for 11 points extra.
The Mk12 Agema fills a completely different role than atlalanta, tuecer, or the other agema. The Mk12 is for hunting skirmishes, as opposed to hard targets.

>>53867335
I understand this but most of the time due to my points distribution I usually end up with a three man link.

>>53867492
I guess this is another case for meta betweens stores. Especially in more store, i've had much more use out of Atlanta and Teucer

>>53867429
That restriction only exists for the 2 inch move from a failed guts roll. The move from a dodge ARO can be in any direction, just can't end in contact with an enemy.

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There seem to be quite a few black and red color schemes in the HSN3 rulebook. I wonder why that is.

>>53867528
>store
>not club
Peasants...

>>53869878
Because it's universally an intimidating color scheme? I remember you couldn't throw a rock without hitting a unit with a black and red heraldry in my LAP days.

That said, a lot of those black and red units are operating in space.

>>53870063
Best camouflage accirding to fluff

I need to know how big a primaris marine is compared to an azra'il.

>>53834014
A Tunguska sectorial.

I want to be able to use Grenzers outside of Vanilla dammit.

>>53869878
>personal guards of the sultan wear blue and white

Everybody wants to be PanO in their true hearts, I guess.

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>>53870290
Man, I wish I could help you out but I've got neither an Azrail nor Primaris marine on hand to do a direct comparison.

Well, the regular marine they used to hand out as painting test models stands up to 1 and 3/8ths inches with the base (1 and 1/4 without the base). A size comarison between Primaris and regular marines places a Primaris at roughly 1.46 inches tall from my calculations (probably closer to one and a half as I'm likely fudging it a bit). That'd be about 1.585 inches with the base

Silhouette five stands at 1.875 inches with the base although the head itself of the azrail on the model slhouette marker is at 1.75 with the base and 1.5 without the base.

So, as I suspected, the Azrail's slightly taller than the Primaris, although pretty close to matching the Primaris in terms of head to head height. I then used that to draw a comparison in Gimp 2.

So TL; DR roughly the same height.

>>53870791
1.625 without the base, not 1.5 for the Azrail. typo in the post.

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So I am super new to this game like 1.5 games in. But I got this set when they did the Memorial Day sale. Could anyone help me out with a good 300 point list for this? Also it was shipped on the 8th ant idea how long it takes to get to the USA?

>>53870984
Add another HMG soggy and you can run them both in a fireteam with Kornak which is pretty fun. With what you have it gets you close to 300 even if it's very bare bones.

You may want the grunt swc box if you plan on using them so you can get the hacker who's pretty useful. If you can get Anyat it makes them a lot better.

Other than that Yaogats are always handy and the sniper is a good tool.
Rodoks are -fast- compared to most Morat stuff and can give your opponents a different look they may not expect.
You can add the Hungries box so your Oznat becomes a order battery as well.

Pretty much everything we can grab is fairly solid except for the Raicho/Grunt Sniper.

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>>53870290

>>53871474
To be clear, "Grunt's" means Vanguard Infantry, not USAriadna Grunts.

>>53833207
Furries

>>53871636
Cheers senpai.

Why doesn't sniffer list that it is disposable(3) etc in the army builder?

Do you get saves from Adhesive launchers?

>>53872720
Roll
After a successful attack using Adhesive Special Ammunition, the target must make a PH-6 Roll.

Effects
If the target fails the PH-6 Roll, it enters the Immobilized-2 state. Place an Immobilized-2 Marker (IMM-2) next to it.
Troops who failed the PH-6 Roll and are rendered Immobilized-2 cannot make the subsequent Guts Roll.
Critical hits with Adhesive Special Ammunition cause the target to enter the Immobilized-2 state directly, bypassing the PH-6 Roll.

>>53870984
It's a pretty solid base. Splurging on Sogarats may be tempting, but I wouldn't recommend such list for new players. If you want some recommwndations, Yagoat sniper (notice there are probably both old and new models floating around, the new one fit aesthetics better) is pretty common addition in any morat lists. Plays well with some daturazis. Standard additions in any good lineup are support and remote boxes, though you need a hacker to field the latters (well, E-Drone can be its own hacker). Doctor worm gives solid support and can do many of the ITS objectives and the Total Reaction remote is just mean.

Zerats can also give you new ways to play, but Morats in general are as subtle as a brick.

>>53871812
I think that's pretty common.

>>53874305
Really? The only deployable even close to that would be the fastpanda I think. I should probably clarify that I am talking about the weapon chart and not the profiles with sniffer.

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So /tg/ tell me of your Infinity RPG campaigns!

Since the book is in a usable state I have started running an Infinity campaign on Roll20. Instead of the standard "Wilderness of Mirrors" campaign, I have elected to have everyone on the same side. So they are an off the books Black Ops unit working for the Black Hand.

The characters:

Camilla Blanco- Camilla is a Pan O citizen from Varuna. She lead a normal, happy childhood until her big sister was killed in a Libertos terrorist bombing. Or so she thinks. She joined the Pan Oceanian military to earn enough points for her big sister's Resurrection. However, when the time came, the Church refused to resurrect her. Apparently she told them something, something protected by the Seal of Confession that was so heinous that the Church decided not to resurrect her. So Camilla defected, joining the Nomads for the chance to resurrect her sister and find out what Pan O is so desperate to keep buried.

Kobel Andreivich Nikonov- Kobel is a Dog Face from Rodina, Ariadna. His mother was the sole survivor of a Stanitsa that was overrun by Antipodes. He grew up hated by his mother who blamed him for her lover's death and beat Kobel like a rented mule. Eventually he decided to enlist in the Cossack Army of Ariadna partly to prove to his mom that he wasn't a waste of space and partly to stay out of jail. He ended up in the Spetznaz after his exemplary performance. Since Ariadna and the Nomad Nation are allies, he was ultimately embedded with the Black Hand.

(continued)

>>53875412
>standard "Wilderness of Mirrors" campaign
How does this work? Is the campaign intended to be vs?

>>53875897
As I understand it, the party would have united overarching goals, but conflicted subgoals.

>>53876189
That sounds pretty great actually but also group-dependent, I can get why someone might want to drop it.

>>53875412
Nakia- A Haqqislamaite, Nakia woke up one morning when she was young to the sound of Hassassins murdering her parents. She managed to escape and ended up converting to the Druze philosophy. Eventually she worked he way up ta TAG pilot. However, after the Druze ordered her to burn down a hab block full of civilians, she betrayed them, stole her TAG and Escaped. She ended up on the Bakunin's WarMarket and was picked up by the Black Hand.

Rodrigo Mateo- An Ex-Crusader Brethren. He had an auspicious life. He was tricked into hacking the street lights as a child and caused a huge car accident that killed someone. However, that person, by pure blind luck, turned out to be a Hassassin Fiday. Eventually he joined the Military Orders and was trained as Black Friar. However, he loved the thrill of dropping form low orbit directly onto an enemy and he was cross trained in the Crusader Brethren. He died on his first mission to Paradiso, but was resurrected in an Orlando Lhost. Unfortunately his career came to a premature end when he refused to abandon a civilian evacuation post and as a result an entire platoon of Fusiliers irrecoverably lost their lives, but dozens of civilians were saved. Half of Pan O thought he was a hero, unjustly crucified for the failings of his superiors, and the other half thought he was a coward and a traitor. In the end, he was ejected from the Military Orders and Excommunicated. That's where the Black Hand came in.

Feng- Feng was born on Yutang the daughter of a Triad red pole. When she was little, she discovered the body of someone her father had had do rub out. She spent her life trying to escape from the family business attending technical school and academia, but nothing worked. She ended up stealing cars and running rigged electronic gambling machines for the family until the Black Hand offered her a way out.

(2/3)

>>53875897
>>53876189
>>53876407
Pretty much this. Wilderness of Mirrors means the party are assumed to be working for 0-12. They have an overarching goal from 0-12 and then faction subgoals that they are supposed to complete without the members from rival factions noticing.

It's a bit like Paranoia XP except serious.

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>>53876430
(3/3)

The campaign picks up about 6 months after the events of Infinity: Outrage. The Druze have been on the war path since somebody blew up their caravansary station. Iblis has been resurrected in a younger, less corpulent form and managed to eliminate all his rivals.

To finance their reconstruction the Druze have figured out how to replicate Grade-5 and they're flooding the market with it. Some of the drug has shown up on the Corregidor and the Bakunin so the Black Hand have sent the team to take out the Druze drug labs.

They just finished raiding a Druze - Yakuza drug deal on Shentang in order to trace the drugs to their source.

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>check O-12 mission generator
>more likely for adversary to be Umbra than Unidron
Makes sense, I guess, but-
>more likely for adversary to be Avatar than Unidron

>>53871474
>>53874272
Thanks for the Help guys

>>53874272
>>53878645
I mainly recommended the 2nd Sog because it's the cheapest way to get to 300 money wise. But this guy is right when he's saying it's not a noob friendly list really.

Except Zerats. Not that they're bad they're actually really useful the problem being that CB feels like the old terribad sculpts are fine and just shoved them in a new box. CB doesn't make new minis unless no one buys them so DO NOT BUY the Zerat box. It's a garbage trap by shit tier siesta Spaniards and they should burn for doing it with stuff people need (see shitty old auxilia). Find the old blister which should be heavily discounted if you can.

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>>53862301
Here's both of them about finished.

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>>53878879
You may ask what that "Y" on my shoulder stands for, but in my planet it's not a Y, it means Yiff

>>53878879
>>53878909
Nice, either your photography is better lit or the yellows are bolder than the iggy iirc.

>>53879289
I did the orange-yellow (VMC's Scrofulous Brown to be precise) slightly differently. I built it up from a mix of Orange Brown and Scorfulous brown before putting the scrofulous brown.. Also made a point to tone down the level of markings, as I found that if it was too many at a time it can be a bit confusing on the table, the silhouette of the model kind of breaks and it looks like dazzle camouflage.

>>53835971
>Nomads are for closeted shameless weeaboos who fap to catgirls and traps.

That's not true at all.

I'm a trap who isn't closeted in the slightest, and I play Nomads.

>>53879690

Post your clitty

>>53879727

No. For one, blue board. For two, that's something just for my boyfriends.

Is it just me or has this year been really quite for cool rumors or new info in regards to this game? I still love this game by the way.

>>53880734
The Kickstarter probably slowed shit down, lets see what happens with Grncon.

>>53880734
>acheron falls 2016
It's been shit. Lots of useless stuff like the 50+ merc shit models and snipers no one uses or the TAG pilots no one uses. Also releasing shit that should have been out last year like all the USA shit.

>>53880734
>>53881691
Also endless reboxes and "bundles" in place of actual new releases.

>>53881699
Bundles and boxes dont slow down creation of new molds.

>>53881691
Jesus christ this it has just been horrible

>>53881699
That would be nice except that's not how it works since they only release six things a month so suddenly that becomes one less "thing".

Let's look at some of the releases shall we.
June new releases:
>Caledonian Starter
Resculpt. Not actually anything new model wise. But still relatively neat.
>Ayyar
Anticipated new release. Awesome.
>Bag-mary HMG
Pretty neat. Resculpt.
>Zeroes repack.
2 Blisters into a new box. It's nothing.
>Ninjas repack.
It's nothing.
>Aleph Army box.
It's nice but literally another repack.

3 repacks.
2 resculpts (that are still nice).
1 New release.

That's pretty fucking shitty.

Let's look at May;
>Minutemen
Promised in 2016. But great.
>Dactyl support pack.
Repack.
>Zerats
Repack.
>Orc Troops
Repack.
>3 TAG Pilots
Glorified tokens but I guess they're relatively neat.
>Merc Sniper
New release.

2 new releases.
3 Repacks.
3 fairly useless models that see limited table time. Out of all of them the Gecko is probably the most used and even that's sparingly.
I could keep going but you get the idea.

>>53882253
replied to the wrong post like a derp but eh

>inb4 august release is nothing but mercenary snipers and it's revealed that corvus belli got bought by a wealthy spaniard and given to his call of duty loving son

>>53882253

All of this.

CB is the worst company in the gaming industry right now. Everyone should play 40K instead. Have you seen those new Primaris Marines? Just amazing-quality sculpts.

>>53882280
Pretty much guaranteed we're getting Bit and Kiss cause angel was painting "a dude with a odd looking colour scheme/pistol and a smaller dude".

So yea, more mercs.

>>53881691
I don't mind the tag pilots. They're interesting gameplay pieces, and I'd like to see a non-bootleg maghariba pilot.

>>53882292
Hyperbole aside it is annoying when they're all "we didn't work on thing because reasons but here's a comic+model for that comic+limited availability joke models oh by the way you'll have to wait until 2018 for that thing you were told would come out in 2016"

I'm pretty salty about blackjacks.

>>53882328
Fat yuan yuan is a treasure, you take that back.

>>53882343
I think they're great too but the fact that they delay actual game pieces for a joke is kind of shitty no matter how you look at it.

>>53882363
Bro, sometimes it's pk to have fun. They don't need to pump out new releases constantly. Maybe some people needed time off and this was how they reconciled it. Maybe some molds got fucked up and need to be redone.

Sometimes shit happens. A couple anemic months aren't gonna kill you.

>>53882301
I'm not too salty about mercs getting more releases. Especially cool ones like the ALIVE group. Hopefully they dont go to Toha or Ariadna.

>>53882525
That month was literally just the comic+knauf and yuan yuans and as I noted above the next 2 months had a total of 4 new relevant releases. So that's 4 (depending on how you count the pilots) out of 18 slots for actual "new" stuff.

Bare bones would be putting it lightly.

>>53882631
Just because you don't like pilots doesn't mean they are irrelevant.

>>53882642
I actually do like them. I was using the Hazmat as a pilot though because she actually looks like one. Instead of a pistoleer of some kind.

But how often do you see them used on the board?

>>53882631
Did you see what next month holds?

Sakuel with Missile
Zhangying with Breaker Rifle
Rodok with Missile
Airborne Ranger Molotok
Riot Grrls box
And apparently a 6 model Outrage box

That's quite a few models that several factions have been waiting for.

then 2 repacks

You're bitching about a few months where they put the priority on "for fun minis" instead of your army.

>>53882699
I have four armies. All different factions. I haven't bought a single model this year.

So eat a dick?

Besides it's noticeable enough that I'm not the only one who raised an eyebrow judging from the previous replies.

Desu stuff like the repacks coming out always make me worry about the finances of a company.

>>53882328
Welcome to Rodina, tovarish.

>>53882767
Literally bitching at nothing.

>>53882825
>CBIDF
Calm down no one is taking away your siestas.

Yet.

>>53882328
Dude if I was salty about all the things I had to wait years for I'd have given myself a heart attack by now. Just forget about it and be pleasantly surprised when it eventually shows up. That's how I survived 7 years of no Tikbalang.

>>53882871
RIP Toni

>>53882871
They RUINED the tik go fuck yourself.

I was the original TIK WHEN poster and they RUINED the design completely and to add insult to injury gave it the most boring ass pose in existence.

A salt mine doesn't have enough sodium to match the levels of fucking salt I have over that don't ever mention that again.

Fucking christ I had totally forgotten about that dogshit. Thanks dick.

>>53882328
>oh by the way you'll have to wait until 2018 for that thing you were told would come out in 2016"
So that's why CB teamed up with Modiphius.

>>53882891
No problem, anytime.

>>53882891
I didn't believe them when they told me PanO was the largest producer of salt in the Human Sphere.

>>53882923
It's damn true.

>>53882891
Soooo much salt. Why don't you just enjoy the game?

>>53879674
>too many at a time it can be a bit confusing on the table, the silhouette of the model kind of breaks and it looks like dazzle camouflage.

Thats actually pretty cool in an unintentional kind of way. And your new method is definitely the way to go.

>>53882996
This post was brought to you by the Media service of the State Empire.

Yu Jing! It's the way of the future!

>>53880734
Aristeia may b cool.

>>53881588
Gencon will show the Blackjack

PanO Military Order strong!

Finally secured me a limited edition Joan.

>>53884933
Hope it wasnt stupidly overpriced.

>>53885194
No price is too high when Deus Vult.

>>53885296
Fairy nough. I always see her go for 50 burgerbux and that is unacceptable. Figure I will just proxy her with a santiago and wait for a new sculpt.

>>53875412
Having the PCs work for the Black Hand is actually a pretty good idea. They get up to all sorts of morally questionable shit all over the Human Sphere so they would be ideal employers for PCs.

Also Nomad Trade Missions make ideal bases of operations and mission hubs since they are full of the pseudo-legal and illegal toys that the PCs might be interested in.

>>53885568
I would be fairly surprised if there wasn't some content based on that angle in the Nomads book.

>>53885603
The Nomad chapter in the Core book has little sidebars about working for the Black Hand, Dragnet and the Observance of Mercy.

>>53880734
Been rumors here and there, mostly of new Merc units, overall they expressed that they want to set a trend of new units to surprise us like the Danavas or Major Lunah, the "Manga" characters are getting their own box, plus there's a new Infinity Board Game coming out.

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>>53886804
What's the most gimmicky list you can come up with?

>>53887610
Didn't mean to respond.

>>53886804
>surprise us
> Major Lunah
>edgy sniper v46

>>53887610
KwBgzAPmIhEIwFIAsA2Yj6tQdkQQgCYwUAOPeHMZA

14 Spitfire Mods, Kusanagi, and 2 fur squads will always be my favorite.

>>53887610
I made a list where everyone had adhesive launchers. God bless Corregidor.

>>53888135
Man I was playing that Wotan clan mission recently with all those free ADHL on Vet troops. Pretty annoying to deal with, but fun to deal out.

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>>53878909
Here's a different angle of the akimbo combi one.

>>53884933
Fantastic model.

>>53890289
>5,692 post karma
>9,396 comment karma
ebin

Holograms for hackers, etc.

Anyone used those? I downloaded them from the site but the size is enormous and it appears to lose a lot of detail if I manually shrink.

>>53890858
You need a high DPI printer that can print on transparent printer paper to make it work well. If you're lucky somebody in your FLGS will have one and will be willing to make some for you.

>>53891422

I'm just going to take to Office Max for the actual printing. the issue I have is the size..and if I manually shrink it's very distorted (even without printing)

So Wotan Phase Two dropped.
Get ready for AD Geckos.

Nomads definitely need more love from CB.

>>53893977
How about a brand new Riot Grrls box?

>>53882253
>completely forgetting about Danavas

>>53890379
What's so significant about the numbers?

Also it's not even my main account there.

>>53893626
Does the Zero-G include Multi-terrain? I kind of want to AD my ninjas and Guilang now.

>>53895551
Wartrader said no.

It has to be zero g.

>>53893626
Post PDF.

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>>53893626
>Preparing for titanfall

>>53896620
I got you.

>>53887610
England still won. It's a horrible list that I can't remember why I made, but it endures. 40 regular orders in CHA with Wallace, a Warcor, two Cameronians and 36 Highlanders. Highly allergic to MSV2 and objectives.

>>53898322
How much of that was proxies?

>>53899327
28-29 of them iirc. Can't remember if the Warcor was a proxy. I made it long before I played it and I don't even play CHA normally, but I borrowed someone else's stuff just to do the experiment.

I remember I lost but not much past that. I think I killed most of my opponent's dudes though. The game took a fucking long time.

>>53893977
LOL

Tomorrow my copy of operation icestorm comes in the mail. Any words of advice for a noobie taking his first steps into the hobby? I've got tools to assemble the miniatures and some black krylon primer spray paint for priming. Any cheap acrylic paints I can get from Michaels that would work in place of something like vallejo?

>>53902369
No, get vallejo. They aren't that expensive.

>>53902369
Formula P3 is not bad either.

If I target an enemy with my FO, then speculative fire at it with an LGL, do I still get the benefits of targeted if the template is not on top of the target?

For example, if the targeted enemy is behind partial cover, can I place the template behind it so that the template ignores cover, and I get the full +3 bonus (and no -6 mod) from the speculative shot?

>>53903023
Yes. Though it's usually better to spec fire from out of LOF, to avoid reprisal.

>>53902369
>Any cheap acrylic paints I can get from Michaels that would work in place of something like vallejo?

No.

Krylon spray primer is fine as long as you have a light touch on the nozzle. Be aware that rattle cans are much more sensitive to humidity than either brush-on primers or an airbrush, but seeing as how brush-on primers suck and requiring a newbie to operate an airbrush is completely and utterly unreasonable, the rattle can should be fine.

Don't buy cheap acrylic paint. The pigment in the matrix is less dense than that of actual modeling paints, and so it covers less well and it tends to not thin down very efficiently. Remember, your paints should be just about the consistency of milk when you apply them to the model, which means you should be thinning them *all the time*. The practical differences between the various modeling paint brands at your current skill level are minimal, so don't sweat the actual brand of paint as long as it's the color you want AND it's a modeling paint.

And as long as it's acrylic, obviously. Don't start with enamels; I did back when I was 6, and it sucked really bad.

Also, try to buy paints in groups of 3. Get a middle color, a darker shade, and a ligher hue. Paint an area the middle color, heavily thin the darker color and apply it to the recesses of that area. Wipe most of the lighter color paint off your brush and gently drag it across the raised portions of the middle color. Boom, instant "depth"; simulating shadows in the lower sections and light catching the raised sections.

If you're going to buy SOMETHING at Michaels, buy Testor's Dullcote to varnish your models after you're done painting them (and before putting on any transparent or translucent additions). No sense in letting the paint rub off.

>>53902369

The models come coated in grease from the factory. Clean them thoroughly with warm soap and water and a toothbrush before you use any glue or primer.

>>53903104
Isn't that only true of things like FineCast and plastic? I've never felt a difference after scrubbing my Infinity models.

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>>53893626
Mini-Caskuda's back boys!

Santago Marines, attack the deviants! Brothers, Onwards for the Pontifex Maximus!

>>53897552
Thanks. You wouldn't happen to have the old Flamestrike documentation, would you?

>>53902369
You can get Model Color pots from Vallejo at many Michael's and Hobby Lobbys for like $2.49 a pot.
That's $50 for 20 pots. And these places have coupons for 20-30% total purchases all the time.

Don't be buying shit like Apple Barrel craft acrylics and slathering that shit on your Infinity models.

>>53885194
>>53885465
Already ordered one still in the blister from Spain via ebay for about 70 dollarydoos. However I was ok with that since I had 25AUD in Paypal that I was a windfall. So only paid about 45AUD overall. Coming in 3-4 weeks.

Then just as I expected some shitcunt goes and puts up a PanO set on an Infinity FB group to sell that had a built Joan in it. Whole set was only 120AUD, plus 15AUD for shipping. Which is all fine since it had the Joan, a bunch of other PanO stuff which will be nifty, and a small carry case.

So two good Joans. God wills it.

>>53903116
Anything that comes out of a mould that uses mould release really. Infinity models have varying amounts, and you should definitely do it. First models I painted from CB the paint fell off after varnishing even.

>>53903116
You sometimes can be able to tell right away if they have a mold release just by rubbing the mini with your thumb for a little bit. But after cleaning it will be clear as day because of how much shinier the mini will be.

>>53875412
Man, calling a person Kobel is an insult in Russian. Even if they're a dogface, I presume. It basically means "manslut".

>>53905256
Mauäybe he works for Nomads.

Zhanying hacker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecnDaEgSqXg

>>53906570
It's_about_damn_time.webm

Do you think the hacker sculpt was released so they would have a box of four later, like maybe two more versions of the Zhanying like one HMG and one Breaker Combi with Madtraps?

>>53906570
Noice.

I noticed between my friend and I playing missions from Strikezone Wotan that the winner gets more comments than the loser. Curious.

>>53906856
>Madtraps
i really hope so, i like it very much when i can have my minis faithfully represent the profile of my units and the only other way to get legit madtraps is in the dire foes box, which already own and do not wish to re-buy since i have no use for repeated characters

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>>53903513
>So two good Joans. God wills it.

>>53908757
Time to get some Holoprojectors.

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MOfag here,

I got a game coming up tonight. I'm gonna play Engineering Deck on Sygtir-1 against a friend tonight. Any units you can recommend taking?

I was thinking of grabbing Konstantinos but the scenario as written doesn't all you to blow up the objective room's doors with d-charges so I'm thinking of skipping him.

pic related, considering running this list.

>>53902804
>>53902813
>>53903072
>>53903104
>>53903332

Thanks fellas for the advice! I really appreciate it. Definitely gonna avoid the cheap stuff and go for vallejo. I'm gonna check out Michaels later and hopefully they'll have some. If not, I'll order some online. I also really like the tip about buying paint in three hues. I've painted in photoshop using that sort of technique to create depth but never had the chance to work with actual paint for such things.

What do you guys recommend for painting on terrain? My first thought wouldn't be to use vallejo but I'm not too certain. I wanna invest in some foam core and other materials to make buildings and even some more natural looking structures like stone walls made from cut up foam.

Thanks again by the way guys I'm super excited for when my copy of icestorm gets here today!

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>>53910151
made this alternate list as well, swapped the sierra and engineer for a fugazi and a crusader bretheren

>>53911483
I personally just use the same paint as my models, just through an airbrush.

Be careful when priming the foam though. Some solvents in rattle cans will eat through foam. Always test out on smaller pieces of foam first.

>>53910151
>>53911743
Looks pretty good, have yet to play Engie deck but I would stick with the engie and sierra, TO's always nice and I find an engie is almost a staple with that much heavy infantry and 2 remotes, don't want nything to get hacked/em'd into the floor or even worse... glued.

Maybe take a bulleteer over a peacemaker? Any faction in particular you plan to take this against?

>>53910151
>>53911743

The extra specialist in the first list feels safer but no palbot sucks. I'd turn the sierra into a hsg bulleteer to get a palbot and techbee but thats cause my meta is in a tr bot curbstomp phase.

>>53913579
I'm gonna be playing against a guy who runs Onyx contact force tonight.

I'm thinking of the bulleteer but I'm especially fond of the peacemakers Mech. deployment. I definitely want it to get in my opponents face or defend the consoles midfield. I'd have to spend more orders to move the bulleteer up but that -12 on suppressive fire would be really cool..

>>53913910
I'd like to fit in the palbot too but I think I can manage. the machinist isn't there for much besides repairing the sierra lol

>>53903513
"New Maya Web Series: La Pucelle d'Orléans reads her fan mail!"

>>53914812
chances are she'd just get a sepulchre knight to do it for her

>>53914849
More like an entire battalion of Sepulcher Knights.

She must get a ton of fan mail. Everything from 9 year old girls writing about what a huge inspiration she is to "Please go out with me. I am a good Catholic" #25,784 from creeper #12,045.

>>53914098
It pays to have good engineer support against Onyx because of plasma shenanigans

>>53914098
Figure having the palbot repair the other rem would be a good idea, but you've got your gameplan.

>>53915001
>It pays to have good engineer

This is PanO we're talking about my dude.

>>53915539
WIP 12 isn't bad if you roll low lol

>>53914975
I want to date an entire battalion of sepulcher knights disguised as joan!

>>53915539
Playing kebab does have its advantages.

>>53917837
Eh, 5% above average WIP with bog standard everything else ain't great. Nomads and Aleph are the real engineering kings with mobile options and some WIP15. Haqq is more about doctoring than engineering.

>>53918958
What makes Haqq exceptional is cheap doctors and easy access to Viral weaponry.

Also the ability to field nearly all of the better Mercenary units in tournaments if you play Qapu Kalki.

>>53919240
Haqq is pretty hard to pin down. They've got a bunch of irregular cheap dudes, various fancy tricks, a couple of viral weapons, great doctors, several camo infiltrators and light shotguns on everything.