/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Modern Spearhead

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June the 15th in military history:

923 – Battle of Soissons: King Robert I of France is killed and King Charles the Simple is arrested by the supporters of Duke Rudolph of Burgundy.
1184 – King Magnus V of Norway is killed at the Battle of Fimreite.
1219 – Northern Crusades: Danish victory at the Battle of Lyndanisse (modern-day Tallinn) establishes the Danish Duchy of Estonia.
1312 – At the Battle of Rozgony, King Charles I of Hungary wins a decisive victory over the family of Palatine Amade Aba.
1389 – Battle of Kosovo: The Ottoman Empire defeats Serbs and Bosnians.
1410 – In a decisive battle at Onon River, the Mongol forces of Oljei Temur were decimated by the Chinese armies of the Yongle Emperor.
1775 – American Revolutionary War: George Washington is appointed commander-in-chief of the Continental Army.
1808 – Joseph Bonaparte becomes King of Spain.
1859 – Pig War: Ambiguity in the Oregon Treaty leads to the "Northwestern Boundary Dispute" between United States and British/Canadian settlers.
1864 – American Civil War: The Second Battle of Petersburg begins.
1864 – Arlington National Cemetery is established when 200 acres (0.81 km2) around Arlington Mansion (formerly owned by Confederate General Robert E. Lee) are officially set aside as a military cemetery by U.S. Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton.
1936 – First flight of the Vickers Wellington bomber.
1940 – World War II: Operation Ariel begins: Allied troops start to evacuate France, following Germany's takeover of Paris and most of the nation.
1944 – World War II: Battle of Saipan: The United States invade Japanese-occupied Saipan.
1996 – The Troubles: The Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) detonates a powerful truck bomb in the middle of Manchester, England, devastating the city centre and injuring 200 people.
2014 – Pakistan formally launches military operation against the insurgents in North Waziristan.

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It is 628 years since the Battle of Kosovo, fought between the army led by the Serbian Prince Lazar Hrebeljanović, and the invading army of the Ottoman Empire under the command of Sultan Murad Hüdavendigâr. The battle was fought on the Kosovo Field, in the territory ruled by Branković, in what is today Kosovo. Its site is about 5 kilometers (3.1 mi) northwest of the modern city of Prishtina.

Reliable historical accounts of the battle are scarce. The bulk of both armies were wiped out in the battle; both Lazar and Murad lost their lives in it. Although Ottomans managed to annihilate the Serbian army, they also suffered high casualties which delayed their progress. The Serbs were left with too few men to effectively defend their lands, while the Turks had many more troops in the east. Consequently, one after the other, the Serbian principalities that were not already Ottoman vassals became so in the following years.

Murad's army numbered from 27,000 to 40,000 fighters. These included no more than 2,000 Janissaries, 2,500 of Murad's cavalry guard, 6,000 sipahis, 20,000 azaps and akincis, and 8,000 troops from his vassals, although they did not participate in the battle. The Ottoman army was supported by the forces of the Anatolian Turkoman Beylik of Isfendiyar.

Lazar's army numbered from 12,000 to 30,000. According to a Yugoslav encyclopaedia (1972), there were approximately 30,000 fighters present; 12,000 to 15,000 were under Lazar's command, with 5,000 to 10,000 under Vuk Branković, a Serbian nobleman from Kosovo, and just as many under the nobleman Vlatko Vuković, who had been sent by the Bosnian king Tvrtko I Kotromanić. Also present were Knights Hospitaller led by the Croatian knight John of Palisna. Several thousand were knights. Furthermore, there have been several anachronistic accounts which have mentioned that the "Christian army" of Lazar was far greater, and that it also included contingents of other nations, although these cannot be verified.

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>>53809003
Serbian and Turkish accounts of the battle differ, making it difficult to reconstruct the course of events. It is believed that the battle commenced with Ottoman archers shooting at Serbian cavalry, who then made ready for the attack. After positioning in a wedge formation, the Serbian cavalry managed to break through the Ottoman left wing, but were not as successful against the center and the right wing.

The Serbs had the initial advantage after their first charge, which significantly damaged the Ottoman wing commanded by Yakub Çelebi. When the knights' charge was finished, light Ottoman cavalry and light infantry counter-attacked and the Serbian heavy armour became a disadvantage. In the center, Serbian fighters managed to push back Ottoman forces, except for Bayezid's wing, which barely held off the forces commanded by Vlatko Vuković. Vuković thus inflicted disproportionately heavy losses on the Ottomans. The Ottomans, in a ferocious counter-attack led by Bayezid, pushed the Serbian forces back and then prevailed later in the day, routing the Serbian infantry. Both flanks still held, with Vuković's drifting toward the center to compensate for the heavy losses inflicted on the Serbian infantry.

Historic facts say that Vuk Branković had seen that there was no hope for victory, and fled to save as many men as he could. He fled after Lazar was captured, but in songs, it is said that he betrayed Lazar, and left him to death in middle of battle rather than after Lazar was captured and the center suffered heavy losses. Sometime after Branković's retreat from the battle, the remaining Bosnian and Serb forces yielded the field.

As the battle turned against the Serbs, it is said that one of their knights, later was identified as Miloš Obilić, pretended to have deserted to the Ottoman forces. When brought before Murad, Obilić pulled out a hidden dagger and killed the Sultan by slashing him, upon which the Sultan's bodyguards immediately killed him.

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>>53809016
Both armies were annihilated out in the battle; both Lazar and Murad lost their lives, and the remnants of their armies eventually retreated from the battlefield. Murad's son Bayezid strangled his younger brother Yakub Çelebi upon hearing that their father had died, becoming the sole heir to the Ottoman throne. The Serbs were left with too few men to defend their lands effectively, while the Turks had many more troops in the east. Consequently, the Serbian principalities that were not already Ottoman vassals became so in the following years, one by one. Furthermore, in response to Ottoman pressure, some Serbian noblemen wed their daughters, including the daughter of Prince Lazar, to Bayezid. In the wake of these marriages, Stefan Lazarević became a loyal ally of Bayezid, going on to contribute significant forces to many of Bayezid's future military engagements, including the Battle of Nicopolis. Eventually, the Serbian Despotate would, on numerous occasions, attempt to defeat the Ottomans in conjunction with the Hungarians until its final defeat in 1459 and again in 1540.

The Battle of Kosovo is particularly important to Serbian history, tradition, and national identity.

This is a historic Balkans medieval battle, with a lot of tabletop potential. Two diverse and colorful armies meeting on a (relatively) even footing, with the details vague enough to allow for some variation.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/la6j94zart0qqd9/Osprey+-+MAA+140+-+Armies+Of+The+Ottoman+Turks+1300-1774.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/h6cb4bqlewvb78i/Osprey+-+MAA+195+-+Hungary+and+the+Fall+of+Eastern+Europe+1000-1568.pdf

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AMX-13 and the armored car that share the turret are both cute as hell. Any recommendation for system/conflicts to use them in?

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>>53810041
I believe the Israelis made extensive use of them during the six day war

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>>53810041
Arab-Israeli Wars, Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 or anything involving Francophone nations in Africa. Very common in South America too, any hypothetical Cold War/modern scenario would have seen a lot of them in action there.

>>53810041

Along with the others mentioned, ISTR Libya losing several in Chad to "technicals".

>>53810041
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-13#Service_History

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>>53810041
brilliant fucking design. 12 round drum magazines allowed quick engaging of enemies but once the shells were fired the tank had to withdraw to a safe place so the crew could get out and reload the drums from the outside.

but it was designed to be a paradrop vehicle meaning that it would be dropped behind enemy lines so the chances of finding a safe sport were limited

only the french

yes thats sarcasm

that being said..it was a pretty bad ass vehicle despite its flaws.

>>53813109
They're French. There's about a 50/50 chance that those few paratroopers and tanks would own the fuck out of everyone and still have a shell left for emergencies.

Since someone in the old thread asked for the AK Interactive FAQ:

I don't have it, but here is the FAQ by Mig Jiminez. Should be just as informative as the AK version.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/41gca41w3h21z0m/%5BScale_Modelling%5D_-_FAQ_of_the_AFV_Painting_Techniques_by_Mig_Jimenez.pdf

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>>53810041

I tried on board game general but they punted over here. What are some wargames (non-mini, hex-and-counter preferred but block accepted) that are relatively easy to teach to non-wargamers, can easily be played >2 people individually or in teams, have a set up+play time of 2 hours or less, and can be found for $50 or less?

I know It's a lot of restrictions, but I really have no one to play this type of wargames with in person so I'm trying to convert my board game group. I talked with them about trying some out, but it seems anything with a long play time or complicated rulebook scares them off. Some ideas I have are old Avalon Hill games like Anzio or Caesar's Legions, which have relatively simple rules. However, they're not conducive to multiple players. Battle of Germany has some unique mechanics to play up to 4 people; I haven't played it myself to know if it works well in that regard. BGG also rates 4 players as Not Recommended. Almost every game in the COIN series supports up to 4 players, but I've heard those are a lot to take in for regular wargamers and I haven't tried any yet.

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>>53815199
>Battle of Germany
Do you mean the GDW WW3 game, or some other title?

We have folders literally full of old hex and counter stuff but the difficulty level varies wildly. A lot of the Strategy and Tactics games are pretty straightfoward, especially because some of them (ACW for example) share the same system. Again they're largely two-player only but you can always subdivide the forces for other players. Campaign for North Africa can have six players and two umpires, but you won't be playing that.

>>53815238
The SPI one, which was published in Strategy and Tactics at first before getting a box release
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3986/battle-germany

Subdividing a two player game is something I'm willing to do, but I'd rather not. I feel like it would be more fun to them if they could control their own side. And I'm kind of a sucker for box releases over ziplocks.

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>>53815309
In that case I might suggest GDW's WW3 series (up in the GDW folder there). Battle for Germany is a relatively noob-friendly, strategic-level h&c game; it could be wrapped up in a few hours (especially if things go nuclear) and different players could take different nations on the NATO/Warpac sides.

Otherwise have a dig through the folders; if you find an interesting title check out what BGG has to say and give it a look. Also there's some non-/hwg/ stuff in there like War Of The Ring, which would be worth a look.

>kind of a sucker for box releases over ziplocks.
Funny you should say that because I was going to suggest a look at the Microgames series:
https://mega.nz/#F!r9dxwA5S!bKjePzZxre9NNIZlFpfpRg

On that note have you considered something like Car Wars or OGRE?

>>53815362
I'll check out GDW's WW3 and the folders then. War of the Ring is not a short game so I wouldn't play it until we had a chance to play some shorter games. I haven't heard of Car Wars before, but it seems like a bit much for a newbie. OGRE is a good choice that I completely forgot about. I don't think I've even thought about the game in several years. Not that it's a bad game, just it doesn't seem to be mentioned much since that kickstarter.

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>>53815441
>I haven't heard of Car Wars before, but it seems like a bit much for a newbie
I played it a lot as a young 'un and probably skipped most of the complexity, but I still think it's work a look, for a quick night's entertainment. Use the basic rules, give everyone a stock car, and then set them on the track for some hilarity.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/a4g0lga7by1o2/Car_Wars

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Perry now sell their Travel Battle sprues individually so if you have a set and want to expand it you don't need a whole other box.

The terrain boards are also available, which is pretty interesting.

>>53815309
I played that one when it was new. It's a race for Berlin, and every German unit lost on the Eastern front respawns in the West & vice versa (2-player). Russian player also plays the Germans in the West.
Quite a neat solution to make a 2-player game of that campaign.

>>53815199
And there's always Diplomacy, of course

>>53815309
>The SPI one, which was published in Strategy and Tactics

Great game. can be played pretty easy with up to 4 people. 1 allied, 1 soviet, 2 german, pretty new player friendly. Honestly any of Dunnigan's works would do pretty well. he did a lot of low complexity games.

OGRE may be a great idea. straight forward rules and pretty simple. give each player their own OGRE and let them beat the crap out of each other. And who doesnt love chucking tactical nuclear munititons at friends

maybe look at 'Victory-The Blocks of War' from Columbia Games. Its a light WWIIish game
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/87/victory-blocks-war

and even BGG has a forum thread on some good 4 player games
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/620547/best-4-player-wargame-entertain-few-newbies

>>53817568
I'm not sure I'd call Diplomacy a proper wargame. The meat of the game is the negotiations and backstabbing and the actual combat is extremely simplistic.

>>53815199
If you're willing to go SF, then Ogre/GEV is a lovely introductory wargame. Super-simple, fun, and really replayable.

Downside: The latest edition core box only has the Ogre set-up, with one side getting a giant cybertank or two and the other getting a conventional force. It's a cut-down version of Ogre Designer's Edition, which has full forces for both sides. There is an expansion for the latest edition which expands both sides with ogres for the blues and conventionals for the reds.

Well, that, and it's a science fiction game rather than historical. It is a really nice little hex & chit tankgame at heart.

>>53816830
Anyone ever scan the rules for that? I know one of the earlier reviewers posted high-res photos of the entire booklet, but they took the photos down. :(

>>53817538
>>53817574
Yea, even if we don't play it as a group I'm going to pick up a copy because it seems very interesting. I'm definitely giving Ogre a good consideration, it does seem to meet all of my wishes. Thanks for that thread link, it's a great resource.

>>53817568
>>53817581
I don't think Diplomacy is a wargame either, but one we'll probably play it at one point.

Ogre is a great game. I used it to teach ratios and other mathematical concepts to my nephews while they were in grammar school. They loved the ONE BIG TANK concept and handling only one counter, albeit with a shit ton of weapon choices, made things easy for them.

As much as I love Orge, I'd recommend the "sequel" GEV as a "beer & pretzels" game. Both side get a mix of forces with or without Ogres and there is more than one scenario. It's also so quick, you can switch sides and play again in a single evening.

In my minis-group we usually have a GEV game being played on the side during bigger matches.

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>>53817991
>I don't think Diplomacy is a wargame either, but one we'll probably play it at one point.

yeaaaaaah. may not want to do that. lots of bad experiences with that game. some people cant handle it....

Alright dudes. New to historical games. Want to do something dark ages, or early medieval. There's the stuff from fireforge and saga, of course, but are these any good? Are there any other good systems? Cheers

>>53818667
>yeaaaaaah. may not want to do that. lots of bad experiences with that game. some people cant handle it....
otoh It's probably one of the best board games I've ever played.

people who can't separate a board game from their real life feelings of betrayal should reconsider their emotional state.

>>53818667
I'm 24 and I have already lost one in our group to the Diplomacy Menace. How many more will fall for the sickle of death?

>>53818956
Warhammer: Bretonnia.

>>53819857
Never forget

>>53818667
>>53819233
>>53819844
I played it thrice over the internet and twice in real life with my group, and nobody ever got super mad or left.

Its very good.

>>53818956
For the most part SAGA is the go-to for early medieval era stuff. It's not very 'hard' historical but has an advantage in that the game system itself is quite good, with a decent gimmick that makes each army play differently, and obviously so without having to get into the gritty details.

Another option would be Dux Britanniarum which is an interesting system, though aimed earlier than SAGA in an early post-Roman Britain, and is centred on campaign play and attempting to build up the force/reputation where as SAGA is more one-off battles. Same sort of scale as SAGA though.

>>53817991
I never got into chit-based wargaming. I only ever played two games and both were pretty easy to understand for a non-chit-wargamer like me.

First was Memoir '44, which I found...lacking? I was underwhelmed. What I saw was just too "simplistic" for me, I guess. Maybe I should've given it another try with another setup, but meh.

Second was Conflict of Heroes: Awakening the Bear. To me this one felt more interesting and challenging and actually made me wanna play more. A look into the scenario book seemed like it would progress nicely in rising complexity, too.

And since people mentioned Diplomacy, I'm gonna say Dune / Rex.

>>53819857

Shit man, I played Brets in the warhams. I miss them.

>>53821137

Thanks fella. I've heard of Dux Belloru, but I'll check it out properly. I'm not too interested in super soft historical games but as there doesn't seem to be a huge choice, you gets what you gets I guess.

Thanks chaps

>>53822336
>Dux Belloru

Note that Dux Bellorum =/= Dux Britanniarum, they are different games with annoyingly similar names.

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>>53822336
>I miss them.
me2

But now we can drink from chalices 'n shit for rerolls, fun stuff, eh?

Got my hands on some 1/300 ww2 aircraft, What are some good games to play with them? Also what colours did late war ija planes have?

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Gold and Sword beaches..at 40 yds per hex for the ASL/ATS systems....11 feet of map

>>53823859
Reminds me of setting up the whole of GDW's Third World War series together

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>>53816830

Okay we're getting there.

Now if someone could become Napoleonic Battlefront and start making 15mm in plastic that would be fandabidozi.

Is 1/48 "truescale"? And is it good for 28mm games? I find I don't like heroic scale ww2 infantry, and I love ww2. Does anyone know of any truescale brands that are good for say German and Russian infantry?

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>>53823544
You could try Check your 6, Lacquered Coffins or Bag the Hun. CY6 and Bag the Hun are hex based, Lacquered coffins isn't and is more simple.

For colors, just google image search the specific aircraft and see what kind of colors you want to go for. It wont make too much of a difference what period it is. You might need to find a book on aircraft markings to work that out. No one will really notice though.

Group finder time

Post your city, FLGS, and what historicals people play there

To start off

San Luis Obispo, CA (on the central coast). Captain Nemo's Games and Comics. So far, only Bolt Action and one guy who likes Advanced Squad Leader, but I'm hoping to use BA to lead into the group getting into other historicals. We've got a grand strategy BA campaign going already.

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>>53825326
I'd spend buckets of money on that.

>>53823544
Depends what you're looking for. Do you have a friend to game with? If not, you'll want a solo-friendly system like Bag the Hun or a similar system with no pre-plotting.
Do you have a hex tablecloth? If not you'll want to avoid games like BtH and Check Your 6 that use them.
Do you want to field large formations of planes? If so a game like CY6 might be better.

>>53826985
Tamiya did both in plastic I think, even some Early French. Also, look for "1/48 Combat" or something, think they did figures too along with a ruleset.

I really like 1:48 figures from model manufacturers - lots of detail, good poses for the most part and good anatomy. Fuck if I know why it's a somewhat rare scale.

>>53818956
Chevauchee and Warlord might fit the bill for you. One's low figure count skirmish stuff with a lot of RPG and campaign elements thrown in for good measure. Warlord's still in development but looks pretty cool.

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>>53826985
If you go for 1/48 minis for scale modellers they are as true scale as it can be i think.

Tamiya has sets for all the "big players" of ww2. Not even that expensive either.

Quality of these minis is not bad, only the faces are lacking i think.

Dust 1947 does 1/48 miniatures as well, most of them being sci-fi/what-if though. Some of the sets can be used with some conversion work i think.

Pic related shows the proportions of a 1/48 Tamiya soldier next to a Warhammer 40k soldier. You get the idea.

>>53830731
>Fuck if I know why it's a somewhat rare scale.

Its rare because modelers mainly focus on 1/35 and/or 1/72 for ground stuff.

1/48 is 90% an aircraft scale.
Tamiya is the only big company doing ground vehicles in that scale with only like 5 smaller companies doing maybe 5-10 kits each in 1/48 too.

If Tamiya ever decides to stop doing 1/48 military vehicles, the scale will die (for military builders, planes are totally fine obviously).

>>53829245

Same with 15mm Ancients... one can dream

>>53823544
>>53827418
>>53829727
What the others said, plus:
Sturmovik Commander
Scramble!
Air Force (actually chit-based, but you could probably easily play with minis)

Would any body kindly post some well painted and modeled 28mm Dark Ages models and warbands for inspiration please?

>>53827418
>>53829727
>>53833138
Cheers, I take these are in the folders? I'm thinking of using brass rods to base them or is there a better option?

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>>53833240
Here's CY6
https://mega.nz/#!vwMngZbR!91OrqgI5u2imvHC6h-8IgHkHyHmXZ997crB9O6tXhqw
Air Force should be in the Avalon Hill folder; hopefully Scramble!, Bag The Hun and Sturmovik are all in the WW2/Games folder, although they're not hard to find elsewhere online.

>>53832894
>tfw everything Napoleonic and Ancients done already in 1:72 and readily available
???

>>53833414
but they all pretty much suck..

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>>53833683
For sure.

>>53833704
not bad but some funky poses that are really toy soldier-ish there.

>>53833310
>Here's CY6
Nice! Was just looking for it.
>Air Force should be in the Avalon Hill folder; hopefully Scramble!, Bag The Hun and Sturmovik are all in the WW2/Games folder, although they're not hard to find elsewhere online.
Air Force (+expansion) and Scramble! are indeed in there.
Sturmovik Commander is free and can be found here:
http://assaultpublishing.com/sturmovik-commander/
The copy of Bag the Hun in the ww2 folder is sadly only the old first version, which is very barebones and like under half the size of the second version.

I'd be interested in a copy of the Fighting Wings games (Over the Reich, Achtung Spitfire, Whistling Death, Buffalo Wings). They're similar to Air Force, I believe.

>>53833835
Probably because I've included some Airfix figures there that were intended as toys in the 1970's.

>>53823859
How many players does that monster need?

Does anyone here play bolt action? I have a few questions.

>>53833414
>1:72 is a good scale
>1:72 is a similar scale to 15mm
1) 6mm is the best scale
2) 1:72 doesn't fill the same niche as 15mm.

>>53836138
What do you want to know?

>>53835120
I saw a similar map set up covering the omaha east and west zones done at a con in dallas a couple years back. they had 12 players on it covering the entire landing.

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>>53836138

I'm happy to field any question you have.

Lots of grognards are bitter about the game's popularity so take any criticism with a grain of salt.

Do you think Warlord will produce Zweihanders when do the new plastic kits?

>>53836138
*raises paw*

Does anyone happen to have the Warlord plastic M10 Wolverine kit? Mine helpfully arrived without an instruction sheet.

>>53839578
Your best/fastest chance is to ask for it in the BA facebook group or in the warlord forum.

>>53838034
no..most grogs are bitter that its a crappy game system thats become popular.

>>53840239
...while they happily play Lion Rampant and derivatives?

Top fucking kek.

>>53840322
citation needed on the assertion that grogs who don't like BA like LR.

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>I'm superior because I play obscure games no one has ever heard of that take 10+ hours to play because there's rules for stupid crap like wind speed in the name of realism.

>>53836259
>>53838034
>>53838090

Cheers.

First off, what is the standard game size? 1500 points? Is this more of a real skirmish game where you may have one or two vehicles each side or is it more like 40K?

Secondly, are the starter forces that Warlord sell any good? For £90 they sell 1000 point armies but with all these things I don't expect them to be a great army, just good value for money.

Is there any chance there will be a new edition soon? It seems to be Warlord's best selling game by some margin.

>>53840322
>Seeing as pretty much no one Games I have seen played at my local club (full of grogs and not grogs)
BA
Saga
Blucher
Chain of Command
Wings of Victory
Check your 6
various grognardy naval games
DBX
Sharp Practice
M&T
Johnny Reb
+ many many more

>Games I have not seen played by anyone
Lion Rampant

>>53840358
Strong argument

here is the truth. BA is a fine game, but a bad simulation. I don't play WW2 games at all so have no strong opinions of it, but its most common criticism (which is undoubtedly true) is that its historical veneer is quite thin. Whether this bothers you or not is up to you.

know a group that plays battlegroup and realized that 1-72 is kawaii scale
what should i know about battlegroup?

>>53840438
>BA is a fine game, but a bad simulation.
While SAGA isn't...?

>>53840499
Where did I say that?
Where did I say I had opinions against BA?

Does Bolt Action have rules for Vichy France?

>>53840438

I quite like LR, I also like the fantasy version Dragon Rampant, I sometimes use it with my warhammer figures. They're not the kind of game you can play regularly though, quite scrummy.

Pikeman's Lament is also good, basically anything written by Daniel Mersey.

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>>53840412

1K is standard. You have an infantry platoon(Mandatory: Lt and at least 2 squads) and you can basically pick 0-1 of mortars, tanks, armored cars, etc. (Unless you're playing a larger game with multiple platoons)

The starter armies are usually good. You get the figures for 3-4 infantry squads, a medium tank, and a medium mortar, all of which will see regular use.

They just did a new edition and a V2 version of the German rulebook(they promised not to do V2 versions of the other nations anytime soon). I'm sure you're good for 3+ years.

>>53840904

I like the sound of all that. I think if you're going for a platoon sized skirmish game don't beat around the bush just do it, 40K has gotten far too large and the rules just don't fit the game anymore.

I was thinking of starting British airborne, I already play Flames so I have a lot of late war British army.

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/british-airborne/products/british-airborne-starter-army

>>53841219

Definitely a good starter. If you want a vehicle, I'd look at something cheaper like an M10 or 76mm Sherman since your infantry are elite/expensive.

>>53842997

Can you make armies from different regiments in BA? So if I bought into para's I could still get Sherman's and Cromwell's etc. to represent Market Garden?

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I have a love/hate relation with Napolionics. I want to like it. I love rank and files games. but i despise pretty much all the rule sets out there and i just cant do minis anymore.

fortunately, Command and Colors lets me scratch that itch on ocassions. just need to get the Spanish expansion......and the Prussian one.....and the Russian one.....

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>Be me
>Go to friendly local game shop.
>Be surrounded by my entire city's basement dwelling population
>Ignore them and go get BMP model.
>Stand in line for an ungodly amount of time and find out I came right in time for the release of Warhammer 40k 8th edition.
>Finally step up to the register and the cashier says, "Well you're weird."
>Mfw historical wargamers don't exist here.

>>53845576

Where do you live in America?

>>53846976
Yup

>>53846976
Sorry for the autism, California.

>>53840412
1000 is probably the most common size, 1250 is an official tournament size too.

>Is this more of a real skirmish game where you may have one or two vehicles each side or is it more like 40K?

Do you still remember Warhammer 40 3rd edition? Its like that. A couple of squads with or without transport option, a few specialists/weapon teams and one or two support vehicles/tanks.

>Secondly, are the starter forces that Warlord sell any good?

They are a decent start and you can build a proper all-round army with them. Don't expect to build a top tier tournament army with them, but for your daily friendly games these sets work perfectly.
They are somewhat good value for their money too, but there are diffences between the different sets.

If you already know what kind of army you want, Warlord also offers the so called "build an army" bundles. There you get even better value for your money and you can choose the components of your bundle from a selected list of contents by yourself while the price is always the same. These are only sold by Warlord while the 1000p boxes can be found on ebay/amazon or elsewhere for cheaper though.

>Is there any chance there will be a new edition soon?
2nd Edition hit the shelfs just a couple of month ago. No new version in the next time for sure.

>>53840579
I don't think there are special rules for them, but you got rules for the regular french, and not much changed for them.

>>53843605
You can.
Everything in the british army book can be used even if it makes no sense historically. (get it from the OP if you haven't already).

Now if you want a somewhat historical correct army you might want to do some research how fitting is a choice, but you don't have to if you don't want.

>>53847164
Oh god.....

>>53845576
"I'm converting it with Chimera parts for my Astra Militarum."
"CARRY ON, CITIZEN."

Bolt Action campaign guy here. Due to various Things Happening, we're putting the campaign on hold for two weeks. So no updates until early July.

>>53840412
I always play 1k with my friends. Some maybe play with higher points if you go outside the platoon chart. Like 2+ tanks. You usually just have one, sometimes none.
If you want a starter army, get the one which allows you to pick the army yourself. Their offer is a good one but the other gets you an extra free tank

Anyone know if the Empress Minis 28mm russians have separate heads? They sell separate heads (gas masks, and so on), but do the basic minis come with separate heads in the first place or would I have to hack the sodding things off?

>>53840579
yes in the french and the allies army book

>>53848581
REEE

>>53848811
I'm going to use the intervening time to revise the rulebook to account for the changes we ended up making

1: Dropping simultaneous turns with secret deployment for sequential turns(This was my idea when I adapted the rules from Ostfront, and the time spent secretly writing down grid squares and then revealing was a surprising amount of hassle for not much gain)
2: Replaced separate production and action phases with a single phase per turn
3: All units holding still for a turn automatically Dig In
4: Now that we have a copy of the Ostfront book, we can start integrating the city fighting rule and some other scenarios.

>>53848893
Related: Do any books have a scenario for the actual beach assaults on D-Day?

>>53849031
not for D-Day but i think the most recent "Seelöwe" book should have rules for beach landings.

>>53849144
...or maybe the actual D-Day campaign book?

>>53849170
Both books have rules for them.

>>53849144
>>53849170
Cool thanks

>>53840498
Make sure to actually read the rules and not only get taught by others/videos. Some rules (like spotting rolls) make a lot more sense if you read the rules section for it, since it also contains the reasoning behind the rule.

If you still have questions or are confused by something (not) in the rules, "Dispatches #2" contains an extensive FAQ/Errata.

When you build lists make sure you have enough officers and (more importantly) battle rating. Some units like the Forward Aid Post are specifically for grabbing some br cheaply.

Can't think of anything else you need to know that isn't obviously in the rules, really.

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Asterix got pissed off and found a horse.

Also new Victrix model previews.

I've recently been pointed to By Fire and Sword for some 17th century wargaming.

Anyone here have any experiences with it?
The minis seem pretty good from what I can see.

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since we talked about scales recently, someone on facebook just posted these and said his friend did them and there will be a kickstarter. 20 american sculpts and 20 germans in either resin or metal.
true scale 1/48 minis

1/3

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>>53854686

>>53854686
I'd buy some even just to paint up some for my shelf. Does that guy have a page?

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>>53854712
>>53854686
Thats what he posted in the 1/48 armor modelling group on facebook:

>You all cross your fingers. These are just a first test run of figures my friend is doing in 1/48 scale. He's got 40 masters done. 20 American and 20 German.

>He did mention kickstarter. He just changed jobs so lost a bunch of time to devote to this. There are a couple of us beating on him hard. He mentioned doing in both metal and resin. Those are the metal ones in paint.


They look so fucking good..

>>53854780
Please keep us updated, I'm really curious about this.

>>53854798
sure thing

Anyone know any good websites for printing rulebooks? Looking to get Five Men at Kursk printed.

>>53856391
https://www.sedruck.de/hardcover.html

A german site

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About a week back I noticed that the Chevauchée scan in the OP is of a Beta version of the rules. When I asked about it I got the reply that it was written by someone from here which is why it's not freely shared. I didn't think to ask at the time but is there anywhere I can buy the proper rules?

>>53857903
I think they're on Wargame Vault.

>>53857903

http://www.wargamevault.com/product/181483/Chevauchee-Medieval-skirmish-campaigns

Has anyone played any of Principles of War? I picked up the Renaissance rules some time back and they look like a mixture of fun and absolute hell to comprehend. Never got any models to play with though.

>>53848714
They come with separate heads. The Russians need a little trimming on the neck I found or else they are 7ft monsters with giant necks

>>53858643
>7ft monsters with giant necks
So they're perfect for Dutch minis?

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Pillbox on the Mannerheim Line for Bolt Action.

Medium: Sarissa Production's Pillbox kit, sticks from the outside world. cardboard, plastic sheeting, glue, baked dirt, and baking soda.

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Tenno Heika Banzai.

Warlord 28mm SNLF.

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>what you'll get when you're possessing limitless dosh

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A couple of battle reports from today's Lacquered Coffins pacific battles:

4 v 4 dogfight - A6M Zero vs. Grumman Wildcat
http://www.thewargameswebsite.com/forums/topic/pacific-battle-even-dogfight/

Zeroes try to sink a US carrier:
http://www.thewargameswebsite.com/forums/topic/pacific-battle-zero-vs-carrier/

>>53863044
>the shelves are lined with even more
Beautiful.

>>53854708

They look nice but the amount of work they would need to be presentable just makes me want to stick with WG plastics.

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Lads, what color do you use for WW2 Brit armor? I did up a test model with Vallejo's Russian Uniform, as that color was suggested by several places, but it looks too bright. Can anyone assist?

>>53863044
Eh, still cheaper and far more satisfying then smoking.

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>>53863044
Mate.

https://olicanalad.blogspot.co.nz/search/label/Roll%20Call%21

I prefer his SYW stuff, but that guy's mad and wonderful.

>>53862165
The one on the right looks like a gorilla.

>>53864688
I use Vallejo Air Color Olive Drab, same with US armor. Folklore says the British late war SCC15 was close to US OD when freshly applied, but faded to a more greenish color - guess what, all my tanks are freshly painted.

Also, you could look at Ammo of Mig's British paint set, it has an SCC15 color if you happen to have an airbrush.

Vallejo's Russian Uniform is more post-war Soviet tank color if anything.

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I'm sorry for the bad photo but I can't do any better.
Here's my Napoleon figure that kind anon posted to me a couple of days ago. Hopefully I did him a bit of justice at least

>>53865755

shouldn't he be 15mm?

>>53865859
short jokes on hwg

b...but he wasn't!

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>>53865859
>>53866139

>>53865755
Oh cool, you got the mini already. I did expect it to take a bit longer.
Good to know he is painted and in the hands of someone who likes the time period.

>>53866481
He'll be a masterful tactician or a master engineer in my empire army. Or a combat beast for the lulz

So, I'm working on scenarios for Bolt Action, and one of the things I noticed was that there's no rules for setting satchel charges or using them against buildings. This is fine for normal games, but my campaign might have some city fighting soon, and I want us to be able to demolish buildings if necessary. So here's my take on rules for Satchel Charges.

Satchel Charges

When using the City Fighting rules for Bolt Action, any unit equipped with Anti Tank Grenades is treated as having satchel charges. Satchel charges may be set on any building, so long as either the unit is inside it, or at least one model is in base contact with the building. Satchel charges may be set on any order except Run. A model which sets a charge may not shoot when given an Advance or Fire order.

Once a building has had charges set on it, mark it appropriately. At the beginning of each following round, roll a d6 and consult the chart to see what happens.

1: Dud - Either the charge was mislaid, or the fuses went bad. Either way, the charge won't be blowing today.
2-3: Tick, tick tick tick. Roll again next turn
4-5: The charge detonates, but it wasn't set perfectly. Each model in the building takes a single hit with a +2 pen value. Roll 2d6 - wooden buildings are destroyed on an 8 or higher, brick or other solid buildings on a 10, and bunkers on a 12.
6: Ka-boom: The charge detonates, reducing the building to rubble and killing every model inside and on top.

(Keep in mind that in the case of large buildings, Bolt Action divides them into small sections about 8" across, so multiple charges would be needed to wreck a factory or apartment complex.)

Cont

>>53867082
Disarming

Disarming satchel charges is a nerve-wracking experience that only the brave, the skilled, and the foolish will even attempt. A unit in the same building as a satchel charge may attempt to disarm it when issued a Down order(not as a reaction) When attempting to disarm a charge, an order check is required even if the unit has no pin markers assigned. When rolling, consult the following table.

Result

Target score beaten by 4 or more: The charges are successfully disarmed - remove them from play.
Target score beaten by 0-3: Making progress. Roll again next turn.
Failure by 1-3: The man with the wire cutters freezes up. Assign the unit attempting to disarm the charges a pin marker, then roll again next turn.
Failure by 4+: Wrong Wire! The charge detonates according to a 4-5 result on the detonation chart.
FUBAR: If double sixes are rolled, regardless of any modifiers, the charge detonates according to a result of 6 on the detonation chart.

>>53866159
I guess the joke fell short

>>53867082
>>53867092
Sounds fine, although I'd recommend checking the Force on Force rules for such things - they have a lot of things that can be used in Bolt Action, blowing mouseholes, breaching buildings and so forth.

>>53865618
Classic modern warlord sculpting.

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Happy 600th birthday to Sigismondo Pandolfo Malatesta, aka the Wolf of Rimini, my favorite condottieri

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismondo_Pandolfo_Malatesta
http://www.mediafire.com/file/wdxmcsw2zui2jhq/Osprey+-+WAR+115+-+Condottiere+1300-1500.pdf

>>53845576
>Stock an item.
>Smacktalk someone for actually buying it.

Why is customer service so fucking difficult for some people?

>>53869836
Doing some smalltalk with the customer is considered "good" customer service by many though.

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3 days left 'til the kickstarter launches. I am so fucking excited!

>>53870088
What kickstarter?

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>>53870117
Blood & Plunder: No Peace Beyond the Line

>>53870157
Good taste muh nigga. Gonna get dem dutch with dat fluyt

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>>53870172
Same here. And the extra sailors. And the fuckhuge galleon, for all those sailors.

>>53870157
Oh good to know. I'd have missed that.

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>>53870294
They're kind enough to provide a count-down until launch on their homepage
http://www.firelockgames.com/blood-plunder-no-peace-beyond-line/

Where can I play /hwg/ in the Toronto/GTA area?
I'm so lonely.

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We have no idea what we're doing. Is it always like this?

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>>53871273
If that's you playing the US then yes.

>>53871377

misinforming your enemy is the surest way to guarantee he underestimates your ability :D

>>53870480
I'd say Meeplemart, but they recently closed their gamespace due to niggers stealing terrain.

>>53871273
Like what? Looks like a typical game and the usual setup for 'Retaking Vierville'

>>53870480
Google wargaming clubs in your area? It's a shame you don't like near my club we have over 60 members and our really happy and friendly lot even the old grognards over 55 arn't that grumpy.

>>53873743
The two of us are reading the rules as we go trying to figure this out. I'm getting to the point where I think the Starter Kit is not helpful and I should just learn full ASL.

>>53873884
SK is a good starting point to get the basics. moving to full is always a good idea.

feel free to ask questions. couple-three of us here that play ASL. might be able to help you out. The ASL FB group is a great resource as well.

>>53873917
We've gotten so many rules wrong at this point any questions I ask would probably be about stuff we've done incorrectly. I'm just going to have to find a tutor at the LGS or something, I have yet to figure out how to learn rules by reading them.

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So we just wrapped up our first game of Warlord, using the rules for the Battle of Blanchetaque in the back of the book.

Essentially the battle's a race for a couple of crossing points over the river, the English supported by lots of bowmen and the French with a mix of infantry and cavalry.

The English prevented the French cavalry from getting over the river with massed bow-fire, giving their slower infantry the opportunity to block the fords and lock the more maneuverable French army into a slogging match.

Rules proved to be really slick and easy to learn, with hard-hitting combat and an emphasis on maneuvering your forces.

>>53870480

Just move next door to me.

>>53848161

Unfortunately they don't let you pick parachute regiment on the 'build an army'.

>>53876255
thats because the british paras are the newest miniatures and it takes a while for them to become available in the deals and discounts.

>>53876296

Oh right, well I'm going to be moving around a lot over the next few month so I can afford to wait a bit.

I'm surprised BA doesn't have a general since it seems quite popular.

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Had a bit of troubles with this one, but eventually completed it - PST PT76. Muzzle break broke twice, ended up a bit wonky, and there was a gap at the back I couldn't make disappear too well. I'll probably put some camo nets or tarpaulin there in the future. And I need to cut some wire to put the coax MG there, which was broke before opening the box.

>>53876355
There's one occasionally, but usually /hwg/ handles the traffic.

>>53877146
Nice weathering.

Anyone here ever played Bolt Action at a skirmish level with models moving independently of one another? Does it work?

>>53878401
BA doesn't have much precision to it. If you want that level of accuracy, why not play a dedicated skirmish game?

I have a dumb ASL question. I'm moving into Melee against some Germans in a building. They have 2 squads that are currently DM'd, and a Leader. Do they have a FP rating in CQC or does the Leader fight alone?

>>53878764
The only WW2 skirmish game I could find that looked good was Five Men at Kursk, but there's such a small community around it and I couldn't find a single battle report.

>>53878934
Five Men in Normandy is a much smaller scale of you're interested, about 5 models a side. We have the PDF in the OP. That being said, why would a lack of community stop you? It's a damn good game and Ivan is a top bloke.

>>53879275
I'm more put off by the fact that there's no physical rulebook. I don't have a tablet so I'm going to be stuck with my phone if I play it. I'm tempted to just print the book on shitty paper and throwing it in a binder

>>53878818
Rout happens before Advance phase. Broken units adjacent to enemy good order units MUST route during the route phase.

The Broken units could not have been there during the Advance Phase. so unless the leader routes with the DM infantry..he will fight by himself at 1 FP

>>53879710
Wow. We have completely mauled this ruleset. How the hell do people learn this game?

>>53879995
trial and error and having mentors help them.

>>53878934
Perhaps try Battlegroup? or I Aint Been Shot Mum?

>>53877692

It seems to have quite a lot of potential, you can see Priestley took the spirit of the first editions of 40K he wrote and put it into this. It feels almost exactly like 2nd edition but more streamlined and alternative activation.

Anyone have some good books to recommend about Caen? Or dare I say some PDFs/EPUBs? It's a huge gap in my WW2 knowledge and I need to fix that.

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>>53880635
It's 3rd edition.

2nd edition is so mechanically different that it can't even really be compared.

>>53871273
>>53871377
You're WW2 America. Just take a break and call in ridiculous amounts of artillery on everything that looks like it might have once held a German.

>>53880635
That's all Alessio's doing. He's more or less admitted that Bolt Action is the 40k he wanted to write but the design team wouldn't let him.

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>>53880789
Well there is the ever-obligatory Osprey, which will at least give you a start
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bdb87hy5s482p8n/Osprey+-+CAM+143+-+Caen+1944.pdf

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Italeri colors for british soldiers, go!

I thought the uniforms would be brown, but here they're more khaki.

>>53886866
I think italeri paint is equal with vallejo.
The Italeri kits that come with a 1/56 tank, brush, glue and a pot of paint always include a vallejo bottle.

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>>53886866
>Italeri colors for british soldiers
>>53887137
>I think italeri paint is equal with vallejo.
Here's the Vallejo guide, anyway

>>53879995
>How the hell do people learn this game?

By being able to read and then by being able to comprehend what they read.

You know, simple stuff like that.

>>53888995
I don't think it's time for us to start criticizing people over reading comprehension because they can't parse the ASL rules. That book is a fucking disaster.

>>53889131
Nah, it's trivial, a child could learn it. I'd explain why I think so at greater length, but I'm halfway through a quick game of Fields of Fire.

The M3 Stuart in Bolt Action is overpowered as shit.
That is all.

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>>53889217
I know guys who have been playing since its inception, guys who are some of the best players in the world, won several tournaments and they have issues with the rule book.

My mentor-one of the best players on the west coast is continually hitting the rule book.

>>53866159
>5'7"
>average

Shit, Washington was born 37 years before him and was still 6'2"

Were Europoors always malnurished spud eaters?

>>53889663
For starters, George Washington was a tall man, he REMAINS the joint 4th tallest president.

Comparing the height of an average height man and a tall man, and saying "gee the average sized person sure is short compared to the tall person" is pretty daft.

But yes Americans were slightly taller than Europeans, German mercenaries during the AWI were surprised by the height of Americans. I can quote from the book "Saratoga" (1997) by R. M. Ketchum
"In Europe the Prussian army set the standards, and there a man had to be at least five feet tall to be accepted in the military, with the average probably between that at 5 feet five. A majority of these Americans, on the other hand, were five-eight to five-ten, and a number were taller still - "far ahead of those in the great portion of Europe". (pp. 430)

tl;dr Americans were taller than Europeans and Washington was tall for an American, so yes he is much taller than Napoleon.

>>53889663
Washington was considered exceptional by the standards of his day. Anything over 6' was unusual circa 1800. Napoleon's own Grenadiers, for example, had to be a minimum of six foot to enlist. b

>>53889646
I'm both scared and aroused.

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>>53890190
as am I......

Somewhat related i guess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C-VjMWqSwo

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>>53890424
On one hand, BoW. But on the other, B&P!!

>>53890556
Say what you want, the video quality is usually decent so you actually see whats going on and they explain the rules good enough. They also use fully painted armies.

>>53890584
That is true. And the illiterate baboon seems to have gotten at least quasi-literate. Or I don't seem him as much any more. (At least he isn't present in this video)

>>53889663

Were Amerifats always so fucking dumb or is this the fluoride talking?

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>>53883247

> We could have had it all.

>>53890739
Alternative activation would be rad in 40K. Dunno about pinning, what with daemons, Necrons and NPC race being a thing.

>>53889774
The influx of Hispanic, Italian, Polish and Irish geens haven't helped raising the average height of Americans these days. I'm 6'2 and feel short rather often here in Sweden but felt like a giant when I visited America.

>>53890598
Warren has mostly stopped doing historical stuff.
He's left most of that to John and Justin, who do actually care and have at least decent knowledge of historical stuff.

Then they have Oriskany as their historical editor, who generally provides interesting but still easily readable series.

Have any of you guys ordered from Warlord Games' online store before? How long does the order status stay at Being Processed usually? It's been a week since I ordered.

>>53892276
Contact them.

>>53892315
I'm going to wait a few days since it says it could take up to 10 days to be shipped.

>>53892276
Did you order any 'made to order' stuff?
Cause if you bought some of those they don't stock them, they cast them specifically for you.

Took about a week for me till they got around to do that.
Keep in mind though that over the weekend their 50% off sprue sale ended, so I'd wager they have a shit ton of orders to process atm.

>>53892396
That's the problem! One of the products are made to order. Thank you guys for the help!

>>53892477
Give them one more week before asking i'd say.

>>53891043
Yeah, America lost the tallest average nation title I think sometime just after the turn of the 20th century.

>>53891043

Ironically enough, all three nations have higher average height than the US. Even the Italians!

>>53893894
Europe really got its diet for the poor into gear in the 20th century. Before then the class of society expected in the army was not one with a good quality of life.

Does anyone have the Bolt Action 2 ed and Konflikt 47 faqs?

>>53894158
Yes, Warlord. I remember linking the BA FAQ here a couple of threads ago, I suppose for you.

>>53893989
Yeah, laws had to be brought in just to make sure food actually had some nutritional value to it back then.
It was at a point that in some places it became common practice to just have all teeth removed and replaced with fakes because of the complete lack of required vitamins and minerals in poor people food leading them to just weakening and falling apart before people even hit adulthood.

What do you guys think of Weird War for Bolt Action? Fun?

>cleaning up then sticking down 10mm figures to sticks so I can undercoat/paint them easier
>up to about 200 now
>not even half-way

Why do I do this to myself.

>>53894950
Because you're mad, just like the rest of us. Now back to work (well, not work, hobby presumably. But you get what I mean).

>>53894950
I'm painting almost 300 that aren't mine on commission from a guy I know. Or I'm supposed to be anyway.

And a few years ago I painted almost 1500 for a random project around the battle of Talavera and they have never seen the table to play the battle

You do it because you can, not because you want to.

>>53879995
in my case, by starting with SL scenario 1, and working through to GI, by which team ASL seems like a better organised version of the same thing.
SL started simple, and worked up, with scenarios to try out what you'd learned.

>>53894520
Even in the 20th century, this was cheaper than paying for a dentist your whole life, and nothing unusual

>>53894203
I've seen the 1ed faq linked a few threads ago.

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Friend of mine bought one of those RC Tiger tanks with the little airsoft gun in the turret. They come requiring assembly and paint, except the Commander. He came pre-painted like this. I'm not sure what his face is supposed to be portraying here.

>>53898207
The whites of their eyes!

>>53873001
I heard about that, awful move in my opinion.
Sword and Board just opened up, but they're a bit out of the way and might not do /hwg/.

>>53898207
>gotaholdofbadsauerkraut.png

>>53898207
>taking the pervitin rectally was probably a bad idea, but if it was wrong, Müller didn't want to be right

>>53894950
I find doing smaller batches is more sane. maximum 50 or so at a time.

>>53898207
>thehorrorsofwar.jpg

>>53886614
table pics like this always cause that special tingle.

>>53889533

All light tanks and/or armoured cars are retardedly OP in Bolt Action. They're outright better than medium or heavy tanks.

It's yet another of the ever growing list of reasons why Bolt Action sucks as a game and the people who play it are either equally as retarded or would be better served playing literally any other historical game, or both.

>>53889646
It's still a really good and well-organised book that you can learn to play from, rather than FoF's necronomicon.

FoF is a beautiful game, you just have to go mad to learn it.

Since we had someone asking for a brit painting guide... How about one good and noob friendly one for ze Germans?

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Does Battlegroup have historical scenarios to play? I enjoy pick-up games but the more I play historical games the more I want to actually try games that are designed around an actual engagement.

>>53902461
Simply take a look in the books from the OP....

So google wasn't any help. Where would I go to find out how a specific soviet bomber regiment painted their planes? I want to do a crashed Po-2 from the Night Witches for a Bolt Action terrain piece.

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>>53902966
This should be pretty close

>>53903024
Awesome, thanks. Looks easy to do, too.

I suppose it would be horribly inaccurate to paint "588" on the tail where that one says "28", right?

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>>53903034
I believe that's the aircraft's number, not the regiment number. Make it in the 20s somewhere and you should be good

>>53902966
>I want to do a crashed Po-2 from the Night Witches

Fucking pantsless anime magical girl bullshit. You and bolt Action are made for each other.

>>53903034
There's some more information here and some ideas for more decorative paintjobs:
https://vvsmodelling.com/category/country/europe/soviet-union/

You can clearly see in the photo with the female pilots the 3 color paint scheme

>>53903096
That's perfect, thanks.

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>>53903089

That's the STRIKE Witches, you colossal gaping wanker.

Anon's talking about the NIGHT Witches. A much more awesome group of aviatrixes by virtue of being real and not created to be screen-printed on body pillows. The Soviet 588th Night Bomber Regiment was made exclusively of female volunteers; the name was bestowed on them by the Germans. The women would cut their engine during the attack run and *glide* to the drop point, so the Germans thought they might was well be riding broomsticks, since bombs were magically appearing on target with no telltale aircraft droning sound to warn them.

>>53903184
Although, something like the Strike Witches would fit right in with Konflikt '47

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>>53903089

>thinks Night Witches are an anime

>>53903184
Also, presumably they worked mainly or exclusively at night

>>53903184
Well thats something I wasn't expecting to see on /hwg/

>>53903215

Are you dense? Are you retarded or something?

NEA's (rightfully) calling >>53903089 an idiot, because >>53903089 confused the Night Witches Squadron with the Strike witches anime. So you're looking at him in disapproval for being right?

>>53903275
...you do realize he was replying to the idiot, right, not to NEA?

>>53903252
I apologize; I mean to post only the cover, not the entire great horking document.

>>53903202
That...is actually a true thing. But that so far beyond the realm of /hwg/ that it requires a completely new postal code.

>>53903215
...I think you greatly misread things, sir. Try again.

>>53903228
Well, yes, that too. But typeing is hard when one has accidenally taken a 48-hr dose of muscle relaxers all at one go. Listing all of the interesting facts about the 588th would take entirely too long and I'd probably pass out before finisheing.

>>53903215

Wait, you're cool after all. I TOTALLY read your post as


>think Strike Witches are an anime

Sincere apologies and all that,

>>53903316
>But that so far beyond the realm of /hwg/ that it requires a completely new postal code.
A buddy of mine statted her magical girl WW2 project for K47 a while back actually. I'll get the numbers from her and throw them in /awg/ tomorrow. I remember she called them "Panzerhexen"

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>>53903352
> Magical Girl Liberty miniature never

>>53903377
>Get Captain America heroclix mini
>Replace head, add long hair
>Mission Complete

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>>53903377

That 1/48th kickstarter talked about a little bit ago? With the really nice German and American WW2 sculpts? They should add Magical Girl Liberty as a bonus miniature. Plus, to keep things even, go full-bore Nazi fetish chick (pic related) and call her Fraulein KRIEG.

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>>53902966
You might also like to check out the comics and the RPG based on the 588th

https://mega.nz/#F!ng92majJ!sDBR2z1sd-bJ_yfhpRm4Kw
http://www.mediafire.com/file/oma98131893ylui/Night+Witches+RPG.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/c2xjrtboquoxgpb/Night+Witches+Supplementary.pdf

>>53903352
How does he do them?
Dreamforge minis + female heads?
Bolt action minis + female heads?

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>>53903463

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>>53818667
>>53819233
>>53819844
>>53820267
We need to get a /tg/ game of diplomacy going. It's one of the few board games with a high quality online adaptation, so it'd actually be pretty feasible.

I suddenly have the urge to wargame the Iran Iraq airwar

Anybody have any advice?

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>>53904325
Tomcats and Foxbats over the Gulf, fun stuff
Do you prefer hex and counter...
http://www.mediafire.com/file/08qxcb085u0g7go/Air+War+80.pdf
or minis?
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/8fsiyo1o1eqm6/CY6_Jet_Age

>>53902461
I know the Kursk book has a mini-campaign in the back.

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>>53904383
I made some pipe-cleaner missiles yesterday in preparation for playtesting this modern air combat game. I think mine came out a bit better than these (why is everything supported by a drinking straw!?) but does anyone know which system they're playing with? I'm always interested in hex-less systems. And I would like to know if the missiles can actually be dodged or they're just there for visual effect.

Also I've had a lot of trouble finding information on radar ranges for aircraft like the Early A-6 intruders (the A-6A and A-6B models)
I don't suppose anyone knows a good resource for Vietnam era aircraft equipment like radars and missiles?

I'm slowly slogging through the research of Vietnam aircraft and ordnance - so much to do before I can move on and start researching more modern aircraft. Its a shit ton of work but it will be worth it in the end. Writing an air combat game covering 1960-2000 is going to take me a while. The basic gameplay dynamics are already drafted out (and tested!) but the research will take a long time...

>>53905004
http://www.warbard.ca/2017/04/16/trumpeter-salute-2017-photos/
No mention of the system

>>53903476
hes a big guy

>>53905110
Для тeбя

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>>53808960
Hey /hwg/ is it me or is this green too dark? I followed this guide by the war gamer and he states he primed the model with Army Painter Angel green which I have done and I followed his tutorial using the Dakkadakka comparison chart to match colours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fczj9-HSleY

>>53901865
I have two sizable forces for Bolt Action, and I'd like to play other systems; my local community isn't too interested though.
:(

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>>53905232
It looks a bit on the dark side but I think you could get away with it.

Also in my experience the dakka paint chart is questionable at best.

>>53902461
Yes, pretty much all the BG books have scenarios: the rule book (new re-print) has four for 3rd Canadian ID vs. 12 SS, Wacht Am Rhein has a seven-scenario mini-campaign, Fall of the Reich also has about 6-7 scenarios IIRC.

The scanned books do not have any scenarios included, they're just lists.

>>53902433
https://www.artizandesigns.com/painting-guides.php
And from the OP:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/p8oek656b3o8ns6/Painting+15mm+Germans.pdf

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>>53900548
Another Partizan game, Bunker Hill 1776

>>53901865
>Bolt Action sucks as a game

Oh yeah?
Well I got just a game for you, buddy:
It's called "Charge the Machinegun", and it's a WW2 LARP RPG played with (and this is the most brilliant part, IMHO) live ammunition.

>>53865016

I believe they belong to Rick Priestley.

>>53907517

Sorry I meant these ones.

>>53863044

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>>53907517
Pretty sure they belong to the guy linked, they're in his painting and basing style.

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>>53907834
https://olicanalad.blogspot.co.nz/2012/03/punic-wars-figures-painted.html

Yeah.

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>>53908558
The Romans:
8 x 24 figure units of hastati, 8 x 24 figure units of principes, 8 x 12 figure units of triarii, 8 x 12 figure units of velites, 8 x 8 figure units of cavalry, and 7 command stands with 5 cavalry figures and 10 infantry figures in total. Total figures: 655 (including 74 cavalry).

The 'Africans':
8 x 24 figure units of Libyan spearmen, 1 x 24 figure unit of Numidian 'Roman trained' infantry, 7 x 8 figure units of Numidian and Libyan javelinmen, 2 x 8 figure units of 'Greek' archers, 8 x 8 figure units of Numidian cavalry, 1 x 8 figure unit of Carthaginian cavalry, 4 x elephants plus attendant crew (24 figures), and 6 command stands with a total of 11 cavalry and 2 infantry figures. Total figures: 397 (including including 83 cavalry) plus 4 elephant models.

The Spanish:
15 units of Scutarii in units of 22 to 24 figures each (341 figures total), 8 units of caetrati in units of 11 or 12 figures each (92 figures total), 4 x 8 figure units of Balearic slingers, 6 x 8 figure units of cavalry, and 5 command stands with a total of 9 cavalry and 2 infantry figures. Total figures: 524 (including 57 cavalry).

The Gauls:
18 x 22 figure units of warband, 10 x 8 figure units of cavalry, 4 x units each of 3 chariots (24 crew), 4 x 8 figure units of sling and bow armed skirmishers, and 6 command stands with a total of 4 cavalry, 8 infantry and 1 chariot with 2 crew. Total figures: 546 figures (including 84 cavalry) plus 13 chariot models.

Grand totals:
2122 men
324 horses
4 elephants
13 chariot models

needs more elephants

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>>53908594
I mean, the guy is clearly mad.

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>>53908621
And yes, these last four photos have just been close-ups of parts of >>53863044.

"I'm not sure, but I don't think I'll ever tackle this many figures as a single project again. By the end of it I hated every last one of the little bastards. Now that the painting is done I can relax and enjoy playing with them for the rest of my life."

That's the spirit, although, dude, more elephants.

>>53908558
Is that DBx basing?

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>>53908641
In case it wasn't absolutely clear, these are 28mm.

>>53908653
I don't know the details. I remember seeing his SYW stuff being done on one base for the whole unit, but that's probably DBX or something along those lines.

The battle report the last photo was from was TTS!, which is a grid-based game and very amenable to larger bases, but I would really not want to rebase that lot.

>>53908710
>I remember seeing his SYW stuff being done on one base for the whole unit,
Disregard that, I was thinking of someone else who posts beautiful 28mm armies online.

>>53877146
Nice model. I don't like the blue optical vision device. From distance are more blackie than blue.

Are the Victrix Napoleonic minis any good? I like the fact that the Brits have separate boxes for the center and flank companies, and that they have more poses than just marching. Also, what's a good Napoleonic 28mm system, aside from black powder?

>>53904007
Im down

>>53904007
Sounds fun but I'm away too much in the immediate future to commit.

I played in the last Diplomacy game. It was rough.

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>>53870157
>plunder
Anyone have the rules for Blood and Plunder?
interested, wanna learn rules and play a few games before buying in though. Would give me an excuse to finally build this though....
Bought it a few years ago and still havent built it.

>>53910481
Don't know if the rules have been scanned. You could try to find a local willing to run a demo Where are you located?

>>53902340
well yes..it is a well layed out book and easy to find things IN the book once you learn where things are..but the rules themselves are not easy to comprehend

>>53909362

Could you elaborate, please?
What happened?

>>53910537
Kansas City Area

>>53910862
There should be a few players out there. Check out the Blood & Plunder facebook group, and people will most likely be able to help you.

>>53910749
The problem with Diplomacy is nobody understands that you have to have at least one ally you can trust. If you backstab all your friends, you will lose. At some point you need to sit down with at least one other player and say, "Okay, you and me are in this together. We won't fight each other and whoever gets victory conditions first wins." And then honor it. Germany and Austria are a good example of this, if Germany and Austria pick a fight with each other at pretty much any point, they're asking for the other nations to pick them apart.

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>>53903476
is that mothafookin' steve dillon?

sorry guys, /co/ memes

i'll leave now

>>53911455
>if Germany and Austria pick a fight with each other at pretty much any point, they're asking for the other nations to pick them apart.
ehhhh, if either is allied with Russia and 1 other nearby country they are probably alright, it's a surprisingly dynamic game that I find works much better online, where even if you know the players in real life the game removes the names, than it does face to face.