Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>53738083
So how balanced is 8th

Are flamers good or shit I can't decide

>>53738110
Flamers are okay.

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>>53738083
wacky

>>53738110
balanced/10

eldar got beat with a nerf bat, deservedly

all is good

>>53738110
>So how balanced is 8th
Significantly more than 7th

>Are flamers good or shit I can't decide
Depends on the situation.

>>53738110

Flamers on units with fly are very good.

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think it will be odd if i mix cataphractii armor with tartaros for my chaos terminators, kinda wanna put the cata arms (including tassel shoulders) on tartaros torso.
think that will look dumb?

>>53738122
>A piloted pair of titan slippers

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>>53738082
>He uses his command points to force my Eversor to fail at charging some boyz
Just so you know, you can't use the re-roll strategem to re-roll your opponent's rolls. I know the wording makes it seem like you can re-roll anything you like, but apparently that wasn't the intention, as clarified by the lead designer of the game in pic related.

>>53738110
I just had one of my Dreadnoughts lose 4 of his wounds in overwatch to a Heavy Flamer from some Cataphractiis

>>53738083
NEW TIER SCALE:

Tier 1:
ORKS(HORDE)
TYRANIDS(HORDE)
GUARD(HORDE)
Tier 2:
SPACE MARINES
MECHANICUS
Tier 3:
All Eldar
Tier 4:
Tau

Prove me wrong faggots.

>>53738110
Fairly well balanced, although there are a handful of broken combos.

But there are no longer whole factions that are busted.

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>>53738154
those are the venom's I made before the official fig came out

>>53738162
Tau are fairly solidly mid-tier now.

>>53738151
No, go ahead and do it. Chaos often mix and match bits of armour as their old suits break down in battle and they have to scavenge.

The Lord of Contagion in Dark Imperium for example has Indomitus shoulders on Cataphractii armour, the interview with the sculptor reveals he did this on purpose to represent how Chaos has to cobble their equipment together from whatever they can find.

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>>53738162
>Mechanicus
>Tier 2
>DEldar
>Tier 3

>>53738156
>Leaks and pre-release info means GW is aware of the bullshit asap and can have a day 1 FAQ
Feels good man

>>53738198
Putting Tau in their own tier at the bottom is the new meme, don't think about it too much

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>>53738206

>>53738202
oh awesome, got link to that vid where he talks about the lord of contagion or was it a livestream thing?

Played my 4th game with Eldar today - man I'm really enjoying where they are in 8th.

>be me
>don't pirate
>see you guys making lists 10 days ago
>oh well you'll get it soon
>check emails
>no confirmation of dispatch for my 8th Edition + Books
>Huh, that's odd...
>Go check
>Preorder Item: Dispatched.... 17th June 2017

Oh fuck right off. Pirates get not only the novel but the rules 4 weeks before paying customers? A single week is bad enough; but 4?

>>53738223
so I just realized haemonculous buff the toughness on Raiders and venoms if you type them as coven.

>>53738238
if you go to a store, you can look at the rules there.
Legal and everything. So if you're paying in a store, you can be playing 8th ed fine already.

>>53738224
It's on the community site, VOX-CAST: THE SCULPTORS, less than a week old

>>53738110
As balanced as it can get, there are winners and losers but a good player with a crap army can still win games.

>>53738238
If you've already paid, why do you feel guilty about pirating?

Rvarna or yvahra
Which do you think will be better?
Unless you think all Tide variants will suck

>>53738198
It's a bit iffy depending on what army you face. 8th edition massively buffed melee armies by removing literally all of the charging restrictions from 7th.
> Everyone automatically splitfires
> Shoot any weapon at any target, followed by charging anyone you want. You are no longer required to charge whoever you shot
> Charging after disembarking from any vehicle
> Charging after disembarking from a vehicle that charged some poor bastard on the previous turn, thus locking them down for the entirety of their own turn.

Armies that can take good advantage of both the shooting and assault phase tend to do really well against armies that can only do one or the other. Orks can't take good advantage of the shooting phase(except with flamers), and Tau can't take advantage of the assault phase.

Tau are also now only slightly above average in shooting, while being SIGNIFICANTLY worse than every other faction in melee. Sure your crisis suits can disengage on a whim from melee combat, but it doesn't apply when a Contemptor with his 9" move and S14-D3 melee attacks just ripped all their suits in half and threw the now-dead pilots all the way to the opposite end of the observable universe.

On the other hand Orks don't have good shooting, so you can counter them by just kiting the poor bastards for 2 extra turns.

>>53738238
>people who exploit prerelease leaks get the rules before those who wait for the physical book in their hands
Really makes you think

>>53738226

Enjoying the fact people will actually play you now?

>>53738256
Is this how people are already playing games? I assumed it was just pirates. But this is a bit of a joke. Why the massive delay?

>>53738267
I don't, I just find it fucking stupid that this is the way it works now. Plus reading on the PC is fucking effort for me. Such is life. Oh well I'm not playing soon anyway.

>>53738281
Yes? My point is why is there a 2 week delay before dispatch for 8th? It was preorderable 8 days ago, but it won't even be dispatched till next Saturday? Why was there no release this weekend? What are they doing that means they have to delay dispatch by 2 weeks?

How many tervigons should I run?

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>>53738258
thanks

>>53738127
no, the problem eldar unit got hit with a nerfbat. Home run hit, as many of still good but not OP now. And dire avengers for some reason.

Wraithlord and avatar got a big buff. Warlocks get to buff anyone so sweet ideas to finally try out. And the rest got sidegraded or buffed.

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>>53738083
Chaos Tau

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What 8th edition FW rules are you looking forward to seeing anons?

>>53738238
Dude, I don't pirate either but I take full advantage of the leaks.

I'll just pay for a physical copy in my hands when it gets to the store.

You honestly couldn't figure this out for yourself but bitching about it was easier to do?

>>53738297
I don't know if more than 1 is worth it.

>>53738305
Vultures

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Hey What do you think about my chaos list? My plan is to have the termies and raptors deepstrike on to the board and delete problem units with rapid fire plasma and heavy bolters. Then cast warpspeed on the units that deepstrike to make it an easy charge. I have predators in the back to fire and take out any tanks, and the bikes can turboboost and still fire their melta.

>>53738306
If you follow the reply chain, you'll see my problem is why there is a 2 week delay before dispatch when it's never been that before. It's always been 1 week.

As for getting into store? Nice assumption everybody has time or the ability to do that.

>>53738305
I'm looking forward to having Tau suits without the experimental tag on them.

>>53738305

THUNDERERS

I WANT THUNDERERS

GIEF SUPERSTUGS NAO

>>53738327
It's shit

>>53738305
T'a'u'n'a'r
Leta see dem digits

>>53738305
Achilles Land Raider. I hope Excelsior is added as well. Thunderbolts. Sicarians. Firebirds. Dimercherion or however it is spelled.

What did you guys do today?

I spent all yesterday building and fixing models. Today I spent the rest priming. 13 heavy weapon teams, 10 Scions, Harker, Celestine and girls, 8 Bullgryn, Taurox Prime, Punisher, 5 Rough Riders and 5 Sisters of Silence.

This new edition made a lot of my shelved models awesome.

>>53738338
The Riptide variants too ya

>>53738305
Vendettas

What are tg bets on a future new faction release? Chaos Mechanicus? Chaos T'au? Chaos something? Or just a new Xenos (no Eldar pls)?

Alright fellas, just built a Manticore and it needs a name!

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>>53738151
It's already happening anon.

>>53738305
Gue'vesa tbqhwyf. T-there's no way they're gonna be shitty and boring!

>>53738305
Malcador Defender might be fun with the 5 HBs

>>53738350
why

>>53738373

Whatever is meant by not directly part of the tau empire

>>53738305
The Thanatar. I'm also excited/nervous for the rapiers, I always thought they were super cost effective.

>>53738377
The Shock 'n Awe.

>>53738305
Legacies of Glory honestly. I really loved the rules for making your vehicles more venerable.

>>53738357
I got fucking tabled by an Ork Player with an actual IQ of 60. Granted I was deliberately playing poorly so he wouldn't feel bad, but I was then horrified by how badly I was tabled on turn 2.

And before that I had a fun game with my brother who wanted to try out his new Betrayal at Calth marines. I took down most of his army, but he managed to win by objectives.
>>53738378
Literally ripped straight from a DISTURBED cover. I declare this to be a Music Thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9za5xzGKxNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_449915&feature=iv&src_vid=H1AbgmnBVOw&v=6PX5iT_t9fk

>>53738404
Because it's a Chaos Space Marine list :^)

>>53738373
Dark mech is almost a sure thing after Angelus comes out for 30k.

>>53738305
Squiggoths

>>53738429
Quiet! Before Raptors Anon hears you...

>>53738327
With all that surprise plasma butsecks you should be able to swing predator autocannons for some more volume of fire. Then maybe a cultist squad with the points you save? They're useful chaff.

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Never tried SM's before, so this list is an experiment for me.

>>53738429
The only authorized 40k music that should ever be played or listened to is Bolt Thrower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSM-ihNGHs

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>>53738373
Maybe Tau Auxilliaries.

New Imperium Civil War with Traditionalists faction and Guilliman's Reformers faction if the universe is going the way I think it is.

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Anyone play nids yet that can help me out

>>53738478
CHAD MARINE COMPANY

>>53738429
This site is 18+

did two games so far inquisitors and tanks vs necrons and a tesseract vault and nurgle vs khorne with khorne lord of skulls. vs necrons I smite'd the tesseract for most of its wounds then killed it in 1 round of shooting with my tanks and manticores. vs khorne it was pretty much whoever charged first would get the kills. dropped lord of skulls to about half wounds before game was called because I had mostly tabled him. both games so far have ended in two turns from smite spam.

>>53738479
Concur.

Although I do associate metallica black album pretty heavily with my chaos marines. I listened to it as I built them when I was a kid.

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>>53738456
It's funny you should mention that...

>>53738110
Pretty well balanced. So far there are no stand-out super broken armies or builds, except for the conscript meme. Anyone with actual game experience can tell you that an all conscript army won't be half as effective as mathematical averages might suggest.
They'll be great as a screening unit for a real IG army, but nowhere near as game-breaking as people here seem to think. They're just overreacting because foot hordes are actually useful for once.

>>53738494
Not all of them, I have some manlets tossed in.

>>53738499
>Concur.

Jesus Christ, you're pathetic.

>>53738517
He likes Disturbed. That should have been your first thought.

>>53738508
Of course. Chad needs to put his beer down somewhere. Manlet Marine heads should do the trick. HA HA HA!

>>53738500
double camel cloak? +2 to your save?

>>53738479
>>53738496
My biweekly 30-minute long commute to the Geedubs is made tolerable by this kind of music. I've got a 10$ mp3 player hooked up to my car's aux port, with these downloaded:
> Blind Guardian
> Rhapsody of Fire
> Slayer
> Metallica
> Sabaton
> Booze Control
> Led Zeppelin
> Korpiklaani
> Dragonforce
> Yngwie Malmsteen
> Dio
> and BOLT THROWER.
>>53738519
This >>53738499
poster isn't me.

>>53738519
I'm sorry we don't all exclusively listen to k-pop like you, faglord

>>53738344
I think you mean SuperSturmtigers

>>53738519
You're right.

>>53738532
Not a gooklover I'm afraid. Good strawman though.

>>53738357
I pickep up new in box hive tyrant for $40 AUD today with free shipping. Best feeling ever when in aus that hive tyrant from GW is $90

>>53738525
Don't bully the manlets! It's not their fault they were born inferior!

>>53738543
>shit taste in music AND a racist
Whew lad

>>53738529
>browses /r/music once

>>53738478
>>53738494
>>53738508

Is it just me or are chad intercessors and inceptors kind of overcosted for how much firepower they give?

So 100 pts is ten wounds of meq but only 5 Holter shots, 130 pts of manlets is 10 wounds of meq and ten bolter shots, but degrades as you attrit manlets.

Just seems like a weird tradeoff to me, I guess. Hellblasters seem on par.

>>53738156
Thank God, I had somebody reroll my cult ambush from a 6 to a 1, was not looking forward to an entire edition of that

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>>53738529
>Dragonforce
>and BOLT THROWER.

>>53738551
I'm sorry I don't like mid-2000s scene nu metal, AND I use mean nasty words on a nigerian mud cookie baking forum. But it's ok, because there are safe spaces on the internet like reddit where your opinion will be tolerated and never ever criticized or challenged.

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The men of the Anglican 3rd were out in full strength as the sun rose over the battlefield. The Night Lords and their vile war machines (odd for a stealth legion) were prepared to assault and break the Guard positions.
7th Ed 4000pts Maelstrom of War today
Did you guys play any games? And hmmm should i batrep?

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>>53738499

Got any music recommendations for fueling the modeling and painting of a Slaaneshi Marine and Daemon force? Focus is on rad with a hint of Saturday morning cartoon villain. Relevant Slaaneshi anon from last thread here. Trying not to go full Power Rangers mixed with TTSD here, just aiming for rad with a side of Cobra Commander and amphetamine-based research chemicals. And noise, obviously.

>>53738572
>being a tremendous faggot and a bigoted piece of shit are the same thing as challenging someone's opinion
You just keep digging yourself deeper

Is nidzilla the way to go?

>>53738581
>And hmmm should i batrep?
Give us a summary: Who won, and why?

And maybe a few highlights

>>53738556
Yeah it seems a bit off, and they can't use rhinos either.

>>53738589
BOLT THROWER!!!

It's *OFFICIAL* 40k music!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSM-ihNGHs

>>53738596
Apparently criticizing opinions = having no tolerance for them. Or you're just using buzzwords that you learnt from CNN without actually looking up the definition of.

Tell me, if you're this easily upset, why are you on the notorious neo-nazi antisemite forum?

>>53738581
Those water fountains look really out of place

>>53738581
7th is old hat. Overview would be good.

>>53738600
Totally viable anon. Personally im going to swarm real hard and use distraction fexs

>>53738544
I'm seriously worried GW will collapse in Aus or my FLGS will stop supporting them completely soon. It's their own stupid fault but its cheaper to ship items here yourself then by from GW by up to 50%.

Noone I play with buys from a store anymore.

/thread/ what does /tg/ listen to while driving to their gamestore?

>>53738553
Odd, I've never posted or even browsed /r/music, reddit is a fucking shit. I get all my music recommended from other metalheads, as well as anything youtube mix throws at me that I think sounds good.
>>53738568
I only have a small set of their songs, like there's only two of their songs on my mp3 player. The vast majority of my collection is a combination of Blind Guardian, Amon Amarth, Sabaton, and a smidgeon of other miscellaneous bands to mix the sound up and provide some decent cushion between heavier tracks. I don't like to listen to multiple Power Metal tracks back to back, same with Death Metal, they need other kinds of tracks to keep things varied and interesting.

>>53738589
I would always recommend Blind Guardian to absolutely anyone. You should especially look into some of their earliest tracks(such as from the 1980s) when they were going through their "Hair metal" phase, and having just left their days of early-era black metal.

Do most people who play 40k pretty much stick with one faction the entire time they play? The prices of even one army are so high that it seems like you kinda have to stick to one faction. Looking at e.g. miniwargaming's people they pretty much all stick to one or two factions, and they do this for a living.

>>53738600
I suggest combined arms over any mono-list.

>>53738589
Not super great for noise marines because for some reason I think a bit of synthetic mixed in would be best due to the sonic guns. My friend had a little bass cannon sound bite on his phone he played when he fired his blast masters rofl.

If they ever go back to glam metal marines then a band I think is rad and ridiculous is The Sword. It's not for everybody, but give cloak of feathers a listen. Fair warning, the music video is pretty shit.

>>53738648
Shitty weeb music because I'm a degenerate.

>>53738648
>this tremendous underage retard thinks that blind guardian is a band that people need to be recommended on
>"early era black metal"
Gonna tell us about Slayer next, kiddo?

>8th speeds up the game
Is this actually true, and if so by how much?

>>53738651

That seems to be the trend. I think you could reasonably build a variety of kill teams across multiple armies if that's your format of choice though. Just doesn't seem to be the case.

>>53738581
I love your batreps but at this point 7th is kind of no fun anymore. I eagerly await your first 8th ed batreps, GGA.

>>53738651
It seems to vary by income level and time in the hobby where I am. Most of us stuck to one or two factions, generally falling in the same category (xenos, chaos, imperium), but a few of the older and/or wealthier players have everything under the sun

>>53738651
I am by no means a wealthy man and have about 500 points of Chaos, 1000 or so of nids, maybe 2500 of Tau, and plan on starting small Loyalist Marine and Ork detachments in the future. Oh, and Genestealer cults. It's really all up to preference. I've always been the kind of guy who wants to try a little of everything

>>53738648
>I only have a small set of their songs, like there's only two of their songs on my mp3 player. The vast majority of my collection is a combination of Blind Guardian, Amon Amarth, Sabaton, and a smidgeon of other miscellaneous bands to mix the sound up and provide some decent cushion between heavier tracks. I don't like to listen to multiple Power Metal tracks back to back, same with Death Metal, they need other kinds of tracks to keep things varied and interesting.

All well and good. But listening to music that's GW approved is like putting the jingle for a commercial among the tracks you listen to. It's... not cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-Qiyklq-Q

>>53738672
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to have that reaction, although I wasn't going to be a dick about it.

>>53738673
I haven't tried points yet, but power level has massively improved the ease of getting a pickup game, easily cuts out 20+ minutes of list crap

>>53738551
Just out of curiosity, when someone uses the -fag suffix on this board do you think they're a homophobe?

>>53738641
I agree it is their own fault. They drive up our prices by up 40% for no reason other then "Australia." if they want more people to buy from their stores the drop some of those prices, even if their prices dropped 10-20% they would still be making a bucket load and i guarantee that the instore sales would sky rocket. Right now its just greed that is holding them back in Australia

>>53738699
Lol amon amarth is super fun. Great for running, I turned my friend on to it when he picked the game up with space wolves.

>>53738718
Is it by choice or because of some import tax law? Seriously asking

Fires of Cyrax possibly out this month

>>53738737
According to what?

>>53738651
I have pretty bad faction ADD, but I've managed to sell or long term pack stuff I'm not actually showing love to down to admech and chaos marines.

>>53738741
his dad works at GW

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>>53738672
Slayer is honestly shit. It's very light on the technical side of metal, and has no true roots in any other previous masters. They're a trend-setter in their own genre, but are otherwise one of the worst examples I could possibly give. At least mention what kinds of genres you listen to on your commute to the gamestore.

>>53738699
I meant Dragonforce, I'm well aware that they're considered a 'meme band'. Which is pretty unfortunate because I actually like the Speed Metal genre, but it's completely dead and has no good music if you aren't willing to listen to their one good band.

I have the entirety of Realms of Chaos(Bolt Thrower) though, as well as Deceiver of The Gods(Amon Amarth). I also have Symphony of Enchanted Lands 2(Rhapsody of Fire), and Nightfall in Middle Earth(Blind Guardian). All original CDs, except for NiME, which I gifted to a friend for his birthday. The only thing I have left of that album is the direct-from CD rips on my mp3.
>>53738722
Favourite song? I'd have to put it somewhere between Hel and Destroyer of the Universe.

>>53738733
Its by choice.

>>53738741
Not him but I think it's a pretty logical assumption so if someone says they have any sort of insider info I'd be inclined to believe them.

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>>53738722
>I turned my friend on to it when he picked the game up with space wolves.
>space wolves.

You're both complete faggots who think they're being totally METAL when all you're doing is gravitating towards the childish shit with all the intimidation of a Saturday morning cartoon.

>>53738737
>>53738763

Would be nice, but they'll probably give it a little bit of space from the IA indexes.

>>53738752
>"previous masters"
>the faggot that just recommended someone blind guardian is using 9gag tier terminology to describe music
Holy fuck, if I want to simulate browsing /r/music I go onto /r/music, not onto /tg/, and certainly not /40kg/.

>>53738733
Its not because of tax its a choice the company makes. Its because we live "so far away" everything here is expensive because companies can get away with just raising the prices and we just deal with it.

>>53738651
Everyone at my store does like 5 armies for both 40k and Sigmar. I only do Guard, but I have some random units for inquisiton, sisters and scions.

>>53738752
Also
>dragonforce is speed metal
I managed to ignore the existence of musically illiterate retards like you for the longest time. Today is the day reality hits me like a brick.

>>53738777
> Ranting on someone for actually knowing shit about music
I bet you're fun at parties.

>>53738651
My buddy has stuck with his guard his whole life, and has a bunch of everything. Hes one of those people with a super healthy mindset towards collecting where even if something is shit now, it'll probably be good next edition. He treats all war games like this and goes super deep on faction of choice. When a new ruleset rolls around and we're scrambling to find our favs he just iterates and rolls out whatever's the hotness.

He only gets butthurt when it's something new new that is the flavor of the month. For example he never jumped on the wyvern train.

I on the other hand am an autist with mounds of unfinished shit.

>>53738741

Nothing guaranteed.

Trawling through forums for rumors. Some people talk with FW people to find out approximate release dates. Another got an early email notification for it by mistake it seems.
Supposedly it was retooled to launch with 8th, and 8 is well here. I think it was supposed to be a digital launch so I wouldn't expect the massive buildup or run up to a physical launch.

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>>53738535

YES, UPON FURTHER RESEARCH I DO MEAN SUPERSTURMTIGER

>>53738806
>He only gets butthurt when it's something new new that is the flavor of the month

I bet he doesn't own a single Vendetta!

>>53738752
Physically cringed bro.

>>53738800
>recommending people blind guardian and referring to historically influential artists using cringe tier vocab like "masters" is "knowing shit about music"
It really is like I'm on 9gag.

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>>53738771
I just like vikings and werewolves, bro. But then again I play Tau

Anyway, kudos on being the sort of fag who's autistic about "childish" fun while playing with plastic soldiers.

>>53738771
So that was circa 5th ed and I quickly became mega salty about it as I was constantly btfo by long fangs game after game.

So rest assured anon, I got mine.

Getting into 8th edition and wanting a nice mixed 1000 point list to piddle around with while I get comfortable with the rules, how does this sound.

Termie lord with claws
6 termies, 3 with combi meltas
Hellbrute plasma cannon power fist
10 CSM Heavy bolter, missle launcher
10 Demonettes
10 seekers

I know it's not super competitive but is it playable to get used to the rules?

>>53738771
Biker mice from mars was the shit

>>53738373
Fat Tau.
Tau that make plague marines look anorexic.

>>53738866
So Tau players?

>>53738850
I'd focus on either daemons or CSM rather than mixing, but if you already have the models then go for it.

>>53738826
Hes pretty handy with the conversions, and he picked up those. He has a pretty hefty chunk of fw nastiness as well. Honestly I don't know why he drew the line at wyverns.

He made my friend so assmad with his stormsword that he quit the game lol.

>>53738272
> Charging after disembarking from a vehicle that charged some poor bastard on the previous turn, thus locking them down for the entirety of their own turn.

If they didn't fall back in their own turn, knowing full well that the vehicle that Allahu Akbared into them was filled with nasty assault troops, they deserve to get charged again.

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>>53738844
>I just like vikings and werewolves,
Potential furfag spotted.

>then again I play Tau
In addition to fapping to "trap" hentai.

>Anyway, kudos on being the sort of fag who's autistic about "childish" fun while playing with plastic soldiers.

I own up to my childish hobbies. You are under the illusion there's anything cool or bad ass about it. Face it: We're all glorified comic book nerds who found an actual game with dice to play.

>>53738833
So what's with the outright hostile reaction to any mention of Blind Guardian?

>>53738876
I want to mix. I plan to pick up more slaanesh demons and build a full army of them but I don't have the cash right now.

>>53738826
To be fair neither do I and I'm a big guard player. They just make zero fucking sense when vultures are the gunship support.
I do own one wyvern but I only field it as forward support when I'm doing a light infantry patrol or such and they at least fill an artillery vehicle role the IG was weak in.

>>53738874
no models.

>>53738297
At 250 point minimum, I don't even feel like running 1. Only worth it if you field at least 2 broods of 20 gants each, with a significant number of fleshborers in each brood.

Sure it gives you +40 points of "free" gants per turn, but it doesn't fee worth it compared to the alternative big guys.

Then agian, what do I know, I want to run a Toxicrene.

>>53738865
FUCK YOU FURFAG!!!

And yes, it was! Better than Ninja Turtles. They ought to do a movie for them.

>>53738890
It's not so much about disliking Blind Guardian (while I do dislike them and power metal in general I don't vehemently slam them down like I am here), it's the about him fucking recommending a band that every single middle schooler and their parent has heard of to an adult on an 18+ website. That's just fucking embarassing.

>>53738890
/mu/ is leaking, just ignore.

>>53738305
Griffon.
Salamander.
maybe a new Taurox variant.

>>53738921
Haven't browsed /mu/ in years lad. Place has turned into a pitchfork fotm-core circlejerk.

>>53738917
Hey Anon, you should give Michael Jackson a try while you're at it, too! :^)

>>53738865
>Biker Mice from Mars was the shit
Hell yes
>>53738915
>better than Ninja Turtles
Whoa there nigga thems fightin' words.

@53738941
What was that? You were expecting a (You)?

>>53738651

I haven't bought an army since 1998.
Thankfully Eldar never change.

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>>53738344
aren't Laser Destroyers the Stugs, and the Thunderer is more like a Bombard?

>Get the Tesseract Vault after a long time of my friends suggesting it to me
>Want to play with it in a couple games but didn't have the time
>New Necron book dropped like a month after
>It's absolute garbage now
>8th edition rears its head
>Oh shit, it might actually be worth it now!
>Look in the book
>mfw

What a nice waste of $190. Literally all three things from that box are meh to garbage tier.

>>53738939
And prior to that /mu/ was hostile hipster central. Still an attitude from /mu/ regardless of era.

>>53738148
no they aren't, that retarded meme is fucking moronic.

flamer: auto hits, terrible damage, no chance of doing any damage

anti-vehicle weapons: -1 to hit, excellent damage, high chance of dealing damage

which one do you think is better?

>>53738373
A book with Rogue Traders and other <UNALIGNED> units

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This list any good for 8th?

>>53738865
Those are rats.

>>53738882
Which means that the unit who disengages is going to be losing the entirety of it's turn. That's a nice price for keeping your army safe, seeing as how very few units can actually kill even a simple rhino in a single round of melee.
>>53738917
That's great and all, except that Blind Guardian is completely unknown to any and all normies. The only people I speak to that even know the band exists are other metalheads that already listen to similar genres, and are widely considered to be social outcasts. At least where I live in the middle of fucking redneckistan 'murika. Even youtube won't speak of it since it has nothing in common with any of the normie bands that entry-level metalheads listen to. Which is a shame because their music is good, and the radio in my area only plays shit-tier country music.

Also
> Blue board

>>53738921
I never go on /mu/, 9gag, or reddit. But from what I see now, /mu/ just sounds exactly like circle jerking autists that sperg out over other people's music tastes.

>>53738955
>Whoa there nigga thems fightin' words.
Ninja Turtles were a mainstream meme. Face reality!

>>53738305
Legacies of Glory in general and both versions of Secutarii.

The former were cool ways to add a lot of variety and flavor to a vehicle and I hope they stick around in some form or another. I can see them getting axed or entirely reworked though since 8e is pretty stringent when it comes to special rules.
The latter is a mixed bag however. I like the both units but their rules were both pretty horrible, albeit for opposite reasons. Hoplites were pretty damn expensive for what they were while Peltasts, no matter how much I wanted to deny it, were ungodly OP for how cheap they were. I hope both units are much more balanced in 8e because I really like the models and I want to use them to guard the Knight I'm thinking about getting.

>>53738973
Nah, the "hipster" shit was babby's first indeh. /mu/ has always been a pitchfork knockoff board. It's no different from /r/indieheads

>>53738913
Different anon but I agree I have little interest in running a tervigon either and im going to be swarming. However toxicrene looks fucking great

>>53738969
But Anon! 40k is all about the modeling, not the game! :^)

>>53738983
What army builder is this chaos bro?

That list looks fun by the way

>>53738966
See
>>53738535
>>53738821

>>53738983
Considering your pretty all in I'd drop a squad of Tzaangors and give those SOT some upgrades. Also you have 0 AV.

>>53738496
>>53738917
> Implying anyone here is under 18
> When the entry-cost of 40k is $500+
> Literally the kind of money that can only be afforded by ~30 year old neets and degenerate social outcasts.

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>>53738596
>bigot

>>53738969
Tesseract Vault is amazing, do you not understand how the rules work?

It can manifest 3 of the necron psyker powers a turn. It can tank a million billion hits. It can take 20 tesla shots a turn. It's awesome you silly git!

>>53738600
It's a workable option.

Pure horde is also a workable option.

Medium-sized seems doable as well. (stealers, raveners, warriors)

But combined seems most powerful, as expected. Big guys deal with characters/tanks. Small ones swarm. Stealers kill anything.

What I want to know is...are shooty Nids viable now?

>>53738479
D-rok mother fucker, do you listen to it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRtRkET9xMA&index=9

>>53738995
>Blind Guardian is completely unknown to any and all normies
You don't fucking get it, do you? Your taste in music isn't obscure or unknown in the slightest. Every single normie with the slightest interest in metal music HAS HEARD OF BLIND GUARDIAN. Social outcasts? Don't make me laugh. You're no more social outcasts than fucking goth kids are. You're entry level plebeians pretending to be some sort of obscure and deep music cult. Grow the fuck up or stop coming to a website that you aren't mentally mature enough to use.

Also jesus, get a load of this fucking retard who doesn't even know the site rules.

>>53738996
>Knocking on my painfully 80's childhood
I will end you.

>>53738651
Gamers tend to stick to one/two factions.

I'm more of a modeller so I have something from everything.

>>53739023
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#!/rosterCreator

<3

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>>53738888
>Potential furfag spotted.
And man, that would make a fuck ton of sense, but I actually don't like animals and just think vampires are fucking gay. The hairier and snoutier the furrygirl gets, the less I'm into it. I think Callie from SWATKats or chetarah from thundercats is as far down that road as I'd actually go. I can't think of any dog bitches. I even think Mipha from BotW is gross.

And you're the one who has that gif saved to your harddrive, bro.

>In addition to fapping to "trap" hentai.
I have more than an average amount of kink for masculine women, but have none at all for feminine men.

>>53739049
>not Red Planet Blues or Noise Marines
C'mon anon, you gotta lead with the best here.

>>53739032
>
Some of us are just blue collar working nerds...

So is a nids warrior-based army actually good this edition? 4 s4 AP-2 attacks per warrior on a 25-point, 7" movement, 3w carriage. Primes are alright with a decent buff but pricy and all warriors mean synapse is a non-concern. Plus you can have mobs of shrikes for getting up the field quickly while remaining in-theme.

>>53739032
>implying kids these days aren't getting fuckloads of pocket money from their pampering parents
>implying /b/ and /pol/ haven't introduced 4chan to a new wave of underage soon-to-be NEETs who will in turn eventually replace the current board users
It's like you don't know anything at all about this website's history.

>>53739059
>ultramarines
>no generic space marines
>missing robo gachaman.

>>53739080
Ultramarines is generic space marines, the rest aren't complete yet

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>>53739030
How we looking now?

>>53739076
You realize that, on average, families have less extra money than they ever have before?

>>53739056
So what did you think of the most recent Michael Bay movies? :^)

>>53739062
Sometimes it's good to post a song that doesn't that get posted much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAiVWvsHL00

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>>53739054
> Being this buttblasted about the music someone listens to while they spend 4 hours of every week just driving to and from a gamestore.
>>53739076
I've been around long enough to remember the days of before /tg/, and how we flooded /v/ with half the catalog full of nothing but 40k related threads. /tg/ is nothing more than a containment board for the 40k fans.

I actually have met a shithead kid that bought $2000+ of models every month. He was like no more than 13 years old, and his mom dropped him off at the store with a credit card and didn't come back until the store closed. He was a shithead that cheated on the rules, fudged his list numbers, and even used loaded dice(some mixed in with the regulars, some kept in his pockets for important rolls).

>>53739108
Correct. But you also realize that 40k isn't a remotely as expensive hobby as, say, video games? I started playing late 4th ed when I was 12 for fuck's sake. Nothing about 40k is expensive, especially if 12 year old me could afford it.

>>53738964
Old Banshees and Fire Dragons IMHO look better than the newer ones anyway. And I like the Dark Reaper helmet crests.

>>53738357
Spent most of today moving furniture, but I was able to break out my wip Thousand Sons and start using my new blue. The Thousand Sons blue seems to thin rather easily, or did my wet pallet just have too much water on it? Threw a wash of carroburg crimson on 20 pink horrors and stripped some CSM.

>>53739103
ultramarines/space marines clearly aren't finished yet either

>>53738980
This. Estalia 40k now GW NAW, other humans can be great besides imperium

>>53739135
unless you play 4x games.
Then you buy maybe 2 games a year, and just put 300+ hours into each game.

Are necrons good now?

>>53739158
With the advent of shit like Steam and the number of triple A games coming out every year, fucking no one buys "maybe 2 games a year".

>>53739159
They're pretty awesome. Fought some last night and they have a lot of cool tricks.

>>53739159
Watched a few games played with them, and I gotta say they are Top Tier still. Tyranids actually find it hard to chew through them. Infantry based necrons shine in this edition.

How is the Red Terror?
It hits on 2+ and has 2 pairs of scything talons, rerolls 1s to hit and 2+ to swallow any infantry model whole or 6 to eat something like a broadside. I imagine he's best with raveners along with a tyrgon prime

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>>53739138
I prefer just kitbashing both.
Then again I kitbash most of my aspect warriors, mainly out scourge and other Deldar bits, mainly scourges because so many bits.

>>53739107
Looks pretty good to me Anon. Besides that a strong base for whatever else you might end up adding to a TSons army in the future.

>>53739109
delete this

>>53739059
thanks!

>>53739159
The only necron player in my area lives 50 miles away, and only comes to the store for tournaments. Given that he's a tourneyfag, I refuse games with him on principle..

That being said, I'm curious as to what the 'fun level' is of necrons. For much of this game's history, they've been relegated to the "Neither fun to play as, or against" category of armies. Do they still occupy that niche in 8th edition?

>>53739149
They aren't? Thought they were finished earlier today.

>>53739043
The C'Tan powers are meh for starters. The only good thing about it is the tesla shots and the few extra wounds but I'd rather just get 3 annihilation barges which costs 58 less points, gives you an extra 13 shots and are much faster.

I just can't see the value of that $200 model.

>>53739165
Not the guy you're talking to but AAA games have fallen from grace. I get just as much fun, if not more, from indie games that cost like 5, 10, or 15 each. Even less during a sale.

>>53739169
What nid list was used against them? I'm going to have a majority of games against a cron player

>>53739165
>triple A games
>to 4x players
yeah, or I could go and play Alpha Centauri some more. Maybe Sword of the Stars.

2 good 4x games come out a year on a good year.

>>53739194
Sorry about your feelings

>>53739195
>>53739199
Well yeah AAA games are shit, I'm talking about children and/or normies. They don't have any semblance of anything remotely close to decent taste, in, well, any form of media honestly.

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>>53739174

>>53739197
Can't remember off the top of my head but there was a good couple of gaunts there. Couple carnifexes and a swarmlord. Saw a mawloc and some other stuff. Here's a tip, try to cripple the necron shooting.

>>53738305
All of Dkok

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>>53739074
I am become the bone of my sword

300-The Swarmlord
109-Tyranid Prime-2x Boneswords, Adrenals

297-9x Warriors, Boneswords, Deathspitters, Adrenal Glands
297-9x Warriors, Boneswords, Deathspitters, Adrenal Glands
75-3x Warriors, Boneswords, Talons, Adrenal Glands
75-3x Warriors, Boneswords, Talons, Adrenal Glands
75-3x Warriors, Boneswords, Talons, Adrenal Glands

90-3xShrikes, Boneswords, Talons
90-3xShrikes, Boneswords, Talons
90-3xShrikes, Boneswords, Talons

>>53739212
>>53739165
>fucking no one buys...
>4x players
So 4x player makes you think of normies. and you say "fucking no one" when you only mean normies?

Do you also think of polar bears when you hear 'cat', and call 16 wheelers pickup trucks?

>>53739046
>are shooty nids viable now?
I think its the same thing again anon, seems to work best when mixed. That being said dakkafexes are still a thing at 95-107 pts a piece.

>>53739054
Imagine being this anon. Just try to imagine being so much of a bitter, joyless, sperg that the thought of someone liking a well known band sends you into an autistic fit of rage.

>>53739256
No one where the group of no one refers to no normies. Comeon, this is basic english.

>>53739032
I started 40k when I was 13. My brother was 11. He had marines, I was nids. That was 2nd ed when you needed much fewer models however.

>>53739212
True

>>53738995
You think metalheads aren't normies at this point?

>>53739266
Dakkafexes aren't going to be doing anything impressive this edition with the nerf to Deathspitters and Devourers.

>>53739239
I guess someone's getting boned

>>53739271
Imagine being this anon. He goes around making caricatures of people on the internet that say mean words, while failing to realize that by doing so with his holier than thou attitude he ends up looking even more pathetic than the people he mocks.

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>>53738748
It reminds me of pic related

>>53739239
>>53739074
thinking they could use Venomthropes for the added cover.

>>53739284
>4x players buy 2 games a year
>No one buys 2 games a year
4x players.
What fuck up part of your brain thinks 4x players are normies?

>>53739213
imho too thin/spindly to be a reaper missile launcher.

>>53739302
This is a very painful truth many an aged metalhead needs to comes to grips with.

>>53739303
wa thinking of running 2x deathspitter +bioplasma carnifexes. 7 s7 shots per turn per fex.

>>53739302
I live in REDNECKISTAN. Understand this, absolutely everything is "satanic" where I live. Kids aren't allowed to watch pokemon or power rangers, or play D&D, or listen to absolutely any kind of music that wasn't either country or 'christian'. Where I live, absolutely anyone who listened to even the 'entry level' metal bands is considered a sinful degenerate that needs to be ostracized and banned for life from any sort of significant social engagements. If it has a guitar hooked up to an amplifier, it's satanic. End of discussion.

So yes, where I live, blind guardian isn't a normie band. Normie bands in redneckistan play acoustic guitars while they croon over jesus.

>>53739303
Never said impreasive just said possible and i do agree with you. Personally id prefer to run them bare bones at 67pts and have the worlds greatest distraction

>>53739313
With that collection, you've got enough fast-moving stuff to run down things before they get more than two turns of shooting-barring memes, of course. Maybe one unit of thropes in with the prime and two blobs could work, but i dunno whether itd be better than just more warriors. Between the Swarmlord kamikazeing into whatever he can reach and the Shrikes tying up priority targets, i feel most enemy shooting would be blunted pretty quickly.

>>53739302
This is basically what I've been trying to fucking say. Normie preteens on 9gag have adopted """classic""" metal and essentially turned it into the new scenecore in their effort to be as pseudo-counterculture and le wrong generation as possible.

>>53739363
>MUH REHDNEHCKS
The more you whine about these people the more I find their inbreeding preferable to your retardation.

>>53739363
Are you Amish?

>>53738544
Where did you order stuff from? I'm considering getting into the hobby, but insane prices here have done a lot to stop that.

>>53739363
You know that amplified acoustic guitars exist, right? You know that's generally how live performers plug their acoustics into the soundboard, right?

You don't.

>>53739363
I lived in Redneckistan, it's shit. That's also small shit towns that aren't where large amounts of people live. In actual cities metalheads are normies, it's just the music they listen to. Unless they act like a cunt about it most places don't give a shit.

>>53739159
I'm honestly not sure. I can't seem to figure out what's really good in the book. Our things that have strong, reliable shooting (Destroyers, Tomb Blades) are extremely expensive. Troops with RP seem good until you go against an army with really strong shooting at which point they just kinda die and don't have much impact on the game because they're slow as hell. The vehicles are pretty solid but again expensive.

We got a lot of boosts and a lot of setbacks.
>The things Crons sucked against, aka Deathstars and Superheavies/Gargantuans, are dead.
>RP is now way worse than before
>Still don't deal damage in the amounts that other armies do
>Most foot units are still too slow, and even slower now with mostly 5"

The main issue we always had and continue to have, is that we have really good basic guns and a couple very expensive heavy guns, but we don't have any Special or Heavy options for most units. Warriors have Bolters++, but we don't have Missile Launchers, Lascannons on reasonably priced dudes, Plasma, Flamers, Grav, Melta, etc. So while we win in attrition because our basic guns >>> your basic guns, our answer to Rock is often "well Necrons don't really have a Paper but our Rock is slightly bigger. But the change to RP means that we don't attrition as good.

It's an odd time. We're not bad but the game is still shaping and it's hard to say if we're good.

So whats some good shit to put in a drop pod? Devastators or Deathwatch seem to be nice but what else? Company Veterans?

>>53739363
I wouldn't classify a place that disallows pokemon as being any indication of 'normie', for the sheer fact that Pokemon Go got to ultra normie status within a month and is generally seen as a super normal kid thing and a normal thing to have some nostalgia for.

Sounds like where you live is just weird.

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>>53738083
Warhammer 40k 8th Edition: Rise of the blob-stars

I've played some games and can confirm that fearless blobs are broken as fuck. Most armies don't have a means to remove giant units of 30 4 pt dudes that are fearless. You just can't shoot enough guns in 6 turns.

204 models

>>53739398
I just scour ebay bro. Sometimes you get lucky but there are a couple of discount sellers on there that sell start collecting boxes at $40-50 off. Other then that im yet to find an actual cheap aus store.

>>53739389
No, I'm from Jacksonville. Both the largest city in north america, and simultaneously one of the least populated cities. It's also universally reviled as one of the most boring places in the world to live. It's a whopping 2 hour journey by highway going 80 mph to get from one side of the city to the other, and 99% of it is semi-rural "Small town" nonsense that barely even qualifies as city life. I can even count on two hands the number of 40k players that live in jacksonville.

>>53739363
I knew somebody from REDNECKISTAN. Big time fucking weeaboo. He hid all his anime underneath a collection of vanilla porn.

>>53738083
So, Just got done with my first game of 8th edition 40k. Since we only have the piecemeal rule books and the Indexes, we just threw together some lists and fought to kill. From experience, this is what I've found:

Skitarii are in a weird spot, but their loss of relentless really made things weird. Their special weapons are good, but not as good as prior, and the faction on a whole has been reworked in a very strange way. Arc Rifles are better at tackling Medium infantry, while Cavaliers are a bit weaker due to their loss of a shot.

My list looked like this:
1 Onager/w Laser, Stubber, and a Stubber
1 Dominus/w Vulkite and Macrostubber
5 Sicaran Infiltrators/w Goads/Flechettes
1 Dragoon
30 Vanguard (3 Arc Rifles, 3 Plasma)
6 Acolytes
1 Inquisitor/w Power Armor, Power sword and Plasma pistol

Inquisition is way worse, and works better on their own as a Plug-in Psyker, as a way to help deny enemy psykers, or cast Smite. They do also help with Moral quite a bit. The way plasma works really fuck's with their one advantage, being that they have 3 wounds a pop, which is actually pretty good.

Neutron lasers are a god-send against Armor, and two of them will easily wreck the day of any tanks outside of Monoliths or Land Raiders. The Sicarian Infilitrator's loadout really depends on what you're fighting; Once again, Hordes will suffer against Flechettes and Goads, but they seriously suck against anything +3. Dragoons are decent; If they get into melee, they will hurt, but they work best in packs it would seem.

Canticles are fairly useful; Not exactly as good as the old canticles or doctrines, but re-rolling 1's and adding one strength can be really good. Plus, if properly set up, Electromancer can actually be a bit of a ace up the sleeve if your really stuck in.


All in all, a lot of things have been changed, but we're not all bad.

>>53739421
>drop pod
pods are dead, long live the infantry horde

>>53739421
Devastators are the main choice. If you want you can just load most of your infantry in them if you don't want to put them in regular transports.

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>>53739438

>the new meta requires everyone to buy tons of models

Has anyone done the math on conscript blobs vs. Tesla? Seems like being able to hit multiple times per shot and putting out a mountain of shots should help.

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>>53739362
>>53739369
So, why exactly were the Nid TL weapons shat on compared to everything else? They weren't that good, were they?

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When determining damage from multiple wounds, do you roll once for all the damager or each one individually? For example if I wounded twice with a weapon that does d3 damage, do I roll 1 d3 and both of the wounds do that much damage, or or 2 d3

>>53739438
lol enjoy your retarded meme

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>>53739474
hurry to ebay before the goyim notice!

>>53739492
Flyrants with quad devourers
>>53739498
2d3

Which book has all the horus heresy legion army pictures?, The alpha legion one specifcly.

>>53738083
Lemartes epub when?

>>53739498
2d3, they're different shots.

>>53739441
I was hoping for an actual store, but oh well. It's still better than GW.

>>53739502
seriously run the numbers, you can't take 60 geq blobs off an objective in 5 rounds of shooting your entire army at it.

>>53739310
I'm not that anon, but you do realize that you just added to their case by displaying the exact behavior you were accused of and trying to pass it off as a counter-argument, while also compounding it by adding on that you are also the thing you are accusing them of being, right?

>>53739474
>>53739505
hey u dere

i bet ur pol

go bak to le pol

thanks

t. leddit

>>53738673
Got a 100 PL point pick up game done in under 2 hours - lists and everything

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>>53739491
>Termagants
>From a Trygon tunnel

>>53739526
If youre in aus you can always try blackcultist.com they used to do discout WH but GW shut them down. However they do still order in if you request it. So maybe check to see with them

>>53739542
Except that by that logic they too expressed the same behavior that I did, therefore enforcing my argument. Works both ways retard.

>>53739544
good goyim, today you learn that /pol/ is the most popular board on 4chan

>>53739474
Except gw minis are priced on individual model effectiveness

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>>53739505
>tfw when I bought 28 raven wing bikes and 3 land speeders for $200 off of eBay

>>53739568
But doesn't that still make you a jackass?

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You're all invited to my warhammer graduation party, /40kg/!

>>53739580

Unless you are guard, in which case conscripts, guardsmen and veterans are all the same box set.

Is there a list builder updated with all the new points values yet? I'm too lazy to bother with learning the costs yet.

>>53739527
they probably intended this so that it requires well-rounded armies, shooty *and* assaulty, to kill a horde.

Heyo, newfag to 40K, coming in for 8th, wanna play Orks.

I got a small question.. how is 'Eavy Armor represented? Do you just say the model has 'Eavy Armor or?

>>53739582
Difference is that I don't pretend to be holier than thou and I fully embrace my jackass-ness.

>>53739554
Not that guy, but you could potentially squeeze a LOT of firepower out of a large blob of devilgants

>>53739527
Seriously play actual games.
Numbers can lie to you.

>>53739580
>Except gw minis are priced on individual model effectiveness
Are you retarded?

>>53739568
Except they didn't sperg out about someone liking a thing that people have heard of, so no, only the second part would be applicable, and either way, that still makes you a spergy asshole.

>>53739617
So?

>>53739613
Apparently not an option for Boyz anymore. Nobz have it by default.

>>53739590
actually, with a little bit of modelling skill:

conscripts, infantry, veterans, heavy weapon squads, special weapon squads, command squads and officers are all the same boxed set.

I miss battleforce boxed sets.

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Had to fix something, here's my backline pressure list. Thoughts?

>>53739631
They sperged out about someone saying mean words on the internet, none of which were even directed to them in the first place, which you are oddly enough doing here too. What a coincidence.

>>53739617
Good point, you don't have to pretend to be a holier-than-thou jackass, you just ARE one. Way better.

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>>53739442
>No, I'm from Jacksonville.
...

OOOOHHHHH boy did you just fuck up, boy. You done fucked up.

Hello, Anon. Somebody else from the 904 area code here. And I'm here to tell you that YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!!! Jacksonville is a lot of things, and granted it's close to Georgia but it's a FAR CRY from REDNECKISTAN

Especially when you got the plethora of niggers and their shenanigans up on the North side.

Where the fuck do you live in "Jacksonville"? Some shitkicker neighborhood on in the West side? That's got to be it because that's the only part of Jacksonville that comes anywhere close to what you described and even then it's just a matter of hopping on the Interstate and It's not fucking 2 hours to head over the St. Johns River to get into civilization (granted, it's 45 minutes one way).

You are a drama queen over-exaggerating what's going on in his existence and you need to get out more often. There's no way you graduated high school yet, and you use your own anecdotal experiences at home and your school and think all of Jacksonville is like that when it's FUCKING NOT. If you ever get a car of your own, you'd know what the fuck I was talking about. Just do a Google Map search for "Jacksonville, FL" and look at all the places you haven't been to yet.

>I can even count on two hands the number of 40k players that live in jacksonville.

You mean your school? Because I count much more:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Games-Workshop-Deerwood-Village
http://www.coolstuffgames.com/jacksonville/
http://www.yourfriendlylocalgamestore.com/
And don't forget BorderLands

...and you can add me to the list of people you know who play 40k

Are you up for a game next weekend? I'm supposed to get my books next Friday

>>53739621
Everyone saying this has yet to play actual games against the conscript spam terror. They're just like "hurrr it'll never work in real games lol you guys are just theorycrafting" ...and yet they are the fags that are theorycrafting.

Everyone who HAS actually played against horde spam so far has said it's terrifying and nearly unstoppable.

From what I can gather of crons right now...

Mandatory always is a 20 warrior, 10 immortal, 1 O-lord. Prob do another 10-20 warriors or 10 more immortals.

Heavy guns seem to be a debate: either go 1 triarch stalker and 2 Dday arks or the equivalent points of destroyers/heavy/d-lord

There's talk of shenanigans of deciever/lychguard/flayed ones porting in and fucking shit up

Stinking shit tier is spyder and command barge

>>53739043
Isnt it hitting on 4+ tho? Its too expensive, and ctan powers are situational

>>53739109
In all seriousness, the first one I enjoyed the characters of the turtles. That's it.

The second was atrocious unless you view it from the perspective of literal action figure toy lines coming to life (complete with accessories and "leg squeeze attack action" shenanigans) then it's humerous.

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>>53739589

Are Dreadnoughts commanding marine detachments a thing?

I've taken a "no power armor" vow but I love me some Scouts, was wondering if dreads ever get sent out to, like, teach and shit?

>>53739605
i'd had hope'd that was the case, but in the games i've played if you get too close to a horde, they'll bury you with weight of numbers and battleshocks casualties. remember giant blobs of shitty models can and will outperform smaller units of better models

>>53739654
Jesus, awful lot of stirred up little bunnies tonight. Did someone post this thread on plebbit?

Also I'd very much enjoy seeing where I was "holier than thou" if ever. Good luck.

>Come to /40kg/
>Get welcomed by "NORMIES REEEEE" thanks to one moron with no proofs and the multiple idiots too dumb to refrain from responding

>>53739646
>think it's because people are scared of mean words
If you act like an asshole, people will think you're an asshole. That's on you. It's not that everyone else is too sensitive, it's that you're genuinely a piece of shit. Consider that next time next time you don't get invited to something.

>>53739444
Also, thinking about making a 200$ purchase, but I'm really not sure: If I want to boost my Admech army, I'm thinking about doing this:

Box of Kastellans
Box of Sicarians
Start Collecting! Admech

So that comes out perfectly to 200$


But, if I want to chip in about 5$ more, I could get:

A Start Collecting! Dark Eldar
1 Box of Scourges
2 Boxes of Wych's
1 Raider

This comes out to 205$, but with no prior army. Still, it would be pretty slick to paint and build.

As for my other army, Necrons, If I wanted to be cheap, I could actually nab some pretty easy additions to my army:
3 boxes of Lynchguard
1 box of Wraiths
1 box of Immortals.

and that comes out to 179$

Any thoughts?

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>>53739687
>giant blobs of shitty models can and will outperform smaller units of better models

>>53739696
>this just in: person on website famous for being bluntly harsh in criticism says bluntly harsh criticism, whole world shocked
I don't understand how anyone can be so fucking new.

>>53739676
In fluff? A dreadnought will be treated in a similar manner to a commissar in that they are outside the chain of command and their advice will be heeded by everyone, including the chapter master. In general they do not command but rather share their experience.

Novamarines have an HQ dreadnought but that might change come Forgeworld Index.

>>53739676

The only way to do it would be using Bjorn or Librarian Dreadnoughts, as they are both HQ choices.

>>53739444
>and adding one strength can be really good
Really? I find that one is useless a lot of the time
most of our melee is in the sweet spot of even mid-high numbers
going from s6 to s7 does nothing for infiltrators unless their attacking medium tanks (which arc rifles are so much better at)
going from s8 to s9 does nothing for dragoons, unless your attacking heavy tanks (which neutron lasers are so much better at)
rust stalkers are fishing for 6s to wound so don't care about their strength (which is why transonic blades are lame)
and power sword infiltrators would do better against marines with that canticle, to be fair, but thats about the only use.

I'm sure the evaluation of +1s works different for cult mech, but from a purely skitarii point of view, I have yet to chose that canticle.

>>53739691
It's just that the things you're saying don't matter at all. No one cares if he's a hypocrite, you're just annoying. You might think it's different, but effectively you're just a bother. No need to look for explanations for what's wrong with other people when you're just going on defending shit that's just you being annoying. If you stop posting it's over, there's really no point to make. I'm not even angry at anything, just trying to explain that nothing you've said matters to anyone else.

>>53739554
~70 s4 shots rerolling wounds of 1 isn't something to scoff at

I see, I don't exactly know even the basic rules of 40K, much less indepth rules for Orks so.

I just always found 40K interesting and wanted to play Orks. The models are super expensive tho, not to mention the paints and tools.

>>53739714
>THESE WORDS DON'T MATTER TO ME
>WHICH IS WHY I'LL KEEP RESPONDING TO YOU LIKE A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER TELLING A STUDENT OFF FOR SAYING A NO-NO WORD
My sides, do you do this in public too?

>>53739719
go to ebay and buy huge lots of boyz for the cheap.

40k has a high turn over rate and you can snag great deals from people trying to recoup their investments

>>53738917
Dude nobody else I know in real life has ever heard of blind guardian other than if I've told them. Ever think maybe it's a regional thing, with them being more or less well known depending on where you are?

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>Nob picture shows an attack squig
>Nobz cannot take attack squigs

>>53738357
I played a game on Vassal with Matt from 3++ while Kirby was watching.
I'm not fucking kidding.

>>53739619
>>53739716
But why from the tunnel? Why not throw in the Hormagaunts instead?

>>53739594
>I'm too lazy to bother with learning the costs yet.
sucks to be you then I guess.

>>53739739
>i'm an ignorant retard please excuse me
No

>>53739667
Really. Then tell us about your actual games.
Because I see a lot of mathhammer posts about conscripts.
Discussions of actual games are absent from most 500+ post threads

>>53739711
>>53739712

Was mostly a fluff question. Thanks!

Also, what's a "Rifleman Dread", it sounds Raptors-ish?

>>53739719
Good news!

By wanting to play Orks you have opened the door to be able to kitbash a large amount of your force.

Don't buy trukks or battlewagons from GW, instead get some plasticard and dollar-store toy trucks and tanks of the right scale and Orkify them

>>53739755
a dread armed with 4 autocannons, its slang from battletech

>>53739755
Quad autocannons. Named after the Battletech mech.

>>53739737

I've actually picked up a few figurines from Ebay for cheap already, they were pre-painted too with decent paintjobs but were cheaper than other models so it was a steal.

Still not enough to play though, and I don't even have the proper models for Kill team or Shadow War: Armageddon so.

I am looking into building and painting my own models though, starting with a box o' boyz, but that's a long ways away.

>>53739739
I'm from the third world an I've never heard of that band either

>>53739734
Nigga I'm saying that your justifications don't matter. If someone's offended then that's pretty stupid. You're not mean or scary, just annoying and completely missing the point. Damn dude, how do you need to get so defensive?

>>53739768
look up how to remove paint from plastic models, its pretty cheap and easy. Just don't use acetone/nail polish remover