/5eg/ Fifth Edition General:

>>53702242
>And now for something completely different.

Bullshit, Anon. all we're going to talk about this thread is how shit warlock is.

>>53702223
>Who was the most memorable player you've played with or DMed for?
Had a player that rolled a guy who was all about fighting honorably but he was unable to stick to his character traits and he (on more than one occasion) elected to cut someone's throat while they slept.

Are warlock invocations at will? All Most?

>>53702223
Phil

Fuck that guy

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>>53702261
I'm perfectly ok with this

>>53702261
Warlock's the worst thing to happen to this edition, it just shits up everything.

>>53702223
Ep 52 of DCA was fucking amazing.

>>53702280
Not all of them.
They're terribly designed.
So many of the absolute best options are available right away at level 2 when you get invocations.
While there are obvious trap options like "use a warlock spell slot to cast this mediocre spell."
There's also options that feel like mandatory must-picks because not taking them will make you incredibly subpar compared to everyone else.

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>warlock exclusive item
>"dagger of suffering +1"
>cannot cut anyone except for the owner who is attuned
>allows the player to cut himself
>deals 1d6 slashing or piercing damage (up to you) per warlock level
>damage cannot be resisted or reduced
>user is unable to regain hit points of any kind (including temp) for 1d4 rounds
>upon doing so he regains one spell slot
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>53702261
The thing is, there's only like two ways to play warlock. Anything outside of those is pretty much awful.

You either go for it and dive deep into it for roleplaying and flavor.
Or you try to play like most other players, and try to build a mechanically viable character and just spam eldritch blast.

The thing is, they're pretty fun in an RP heavy campaign. Less fun in a combat heavy one. ESPECIALLY if you can't reliably take short rests.

>>53702300
Base warlock fluff gives you significantly more narrative agency due to having the attention of a bbeg level entity at char creation.
It's invocations provide a variety of unique abilities that can't be mimicked by other classes.
It's small number of spell slots incentivize you to think outside the box and use them sparingly instead of relying on magic.
It has respectable capability in both ranged and melee combat so you're literally a red mage combatwise.

Recently warlock has taken a hit with new UA concerning viable options but before it the whole world was avaliable to them and kept them at some competitive level no matter their choice.

Warlock rocks.

>>53702261
Goes to show how badly they fucked them up after what was the best received UA that people are complaining this much. Can't blame them, Bladelocks were looking alright before Monday.

>>53702336
Does it take an action to cut yourself?

>>53702365
Yes. It's suffering, after all.

>>53702309
All of them should be at will, higher levelled ones should force you to expend a spell slot.
Once all of these resources have been expended should you choose to take a short or long rest.

>>53702309
>Bane costing a spell slot, speak with animals at will, detect magic at will, or +5 on Eldritch Blast
Was bane really that strong to deserve being invocation-locked together with poly and conjElemental?
>Jump and Levitate at will
I wonder what I'll pick!

>>53702336
Buddy, it would be better suiting the concept to make it based around suffocation, not bleeding.

>>53702223
Hey Anons of /5eg, what's the clearest character sheet design in your (collective or sole) opinion?

I saw a horizontal sheet design that was pretty nice and took up less of the middle table.

>>53702399
Levitate sounds so much better until you realize that you can only float up or down in a straight line.

The levitate spell in general just sucks.

Jump is somehow better even on low strength characters.

Is there any point taking Rogue levels after 11? Or is the class just dipping sauce for people who want expertise?

So when will the trove update? We've had 1000 tiny deaths for a while now, and the redemption of Kelvan released earlier this week.

>>53702399
I'm partial to disguise self at will.
>wear a small mask all the time just in case someone can see through your illusion
>every day decide to look different just because

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Posting my latest version of the warlock fixes I'm making. I would love to hear your concerns and criticism.

>>53702452
Some of the capstones are nice depending on what subclass you went with.
Also, reliable talent and shit is pretty dope.

It is pretty great dipping sauce though, yes.

>>53702419
That's the follow up item.

>warlock exclusive item
>"mask of suffering suffocation +1"
>can only be worn someone who is attuned
>while wearing the mask you cannot breathe and cannot take it off easily
>roll a 1d6 every round
>on a 1 you immediately fall unconscious and begin death saving throws
>on a 2-5 you take 1d20 suffocation damage and gain 1 level of exhaustion
>on a 6 it falls off
>while wearing the mask you regain 1 spell slot each turn you survive
SUFFOCATION

NO BREATHING

"Balance" the warlock by just making their invocations and giving them the option to expend spell slots to cast higher level invocations.

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36k+ Viewers right now
In b4 REEEEEEEE

>>53702596
I'm watching. Despite what contrarian faggots say, it's pretty good.

>>53702591
Making their invocations at will*.

>>53702383
The problem isn't on those invocations, free use once per day would be great, but it's the limited number of invocations that make warlock too unidimensional.
There's simply no situation I won't take Agonizing Blast and Book of Ancient Secrets over the others. By 5th get Devil's Sight for Darkness/Hadar meme. 7th polymorph, 9th conjure elemental.

So it's either gimp yourself in combat or ignore Gaze of Two Minds is the coolest invocation we'll ever have.

>>53702352
>It's invocations provide a variety of unique abilities that can't be mimicked by other classes.
Just being nitpicky here:
Beast Speech = Totem Barbarian's Spirit Seeker
Master of Myriad Forms = Moon Druid's Thousand Forms (also the reason why it's a 15th level invocation)

The other at will stuff is great (even if situational), though.

>>53702591
Devil's sight honestly should be pushed to a high level invocation.

>>53702625
See >>53702621

What's the funnest things I can do as a Wizard? I've never gotten to high levels before so now I'm wondering if there's any spells with cool uses.

Planar Binding + Conjure Elemental seems good.

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>Game scheduled for 10:00 pm
>Player comes in at midnight
I HATE MY FUCKING PLAYERS SO MUCH

Mystic is how warlock should have been

>>53702596
It's good, my only problem with it is that I can't expend 4 hours watching it. The podcast is a godsend.

>>53702596
Want to but I'll have to catch it Monday

>>53702672
oh god no

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>play warlock
>request the DM give you items that grant you additional warlock spell slots or invocations
>???
>class is fixed
who woulda thunk it

I've always played tanks, but I want to try my hand at magic, but the magic system seems so confusing. Can someone break down casting for me in simple terms? I try reading the book but I can't tell if I have to prepare each individual casting of a spell, or if I just prepare so many castings of 1st level spells, 2nd level spells, and so on. Like, do I prepare two fireballs and two magic missiles, or do I have 4 1st level castings, and those can be any of the 1st level spells in my spellbook, in any combination?

>>53702452
You keep increasing your SA die, which is the basis of your damage dealing.

Arcane Trickster gets Haste at 14.
All rogues get Wisdom proficiency at 15.
Thief has the best capstone in the game at 17 and Assassin's is alright.

Past level 10 Rogues are just behind Fighters and Paladins in damage, so they're an alright martial class.

>>53702703
Dear lord, stick to martials.
Your DM is going to fucking hate you. If you can't parse those rules correctly I would hate to see how you misinterpret the effects of spells.

>>53702433
Until you realize that Jump doesn't change jumping rule. So you are still limit by your speed.

Also Levitate can be use on enemy.

>>53702693
>items that grant you additional warlock spell slots or invocations
Like?

Playing a Fey Lock Wood Elf Thinking of going pact of blade for the bow from the UA is it worth it or should I go for a tome for those ritual spells?

>>53702728
>You can cast levitate on yourself at will, without expending a spell slot or material components.

It's like you don't even know what they're talking about.

>>53702703
Play a warlock. You don't have to prepare any spells. You just learn certain ones. You only have a couple spell slots and they're always the same level.

Should be easy enough for you to understand.
If you're confused just pick eldritch blast as a cantrip and use that. Pretend it's a bow and arrow.

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>>53702596
THE CRINGE

>>53702703
simple explanation:

>spells can require materials which are consumed per cast (i.e., a feather)
>having an arcane focus negates the necessity for those materials altogether
>cantrips are free to cast
>you have spell slots
>spell slots come in different levels
>you can cast a spell of a lower level using a higher level spell slot
>some high level spells require materials in gold (actual money in-game)

everything else should fit into place lad

>>53702747
There's a bow pact?

>>53702747
Doesn't exist anymore. New UA replace everything with Eldritch smite.

>>53702559
Giving free choice of damage on Lifedrinker is strange, I'll pick force damage 24/7

Learning invocation spells is broken, they're invocations for a reason.
>Be cautious when changing the warlock spell list. Since warlocks regain their spell slots after a short rest, they have the potential to use certain spells more times in a day than other classes do. (DMG, pg. 287, Changing Spell Lists)

>Conjure Animals summoning Fey
>8 Pixies meme

>>53702693
>>53702744
Rod of the Pact Keeper (DMG, pg. 197)

What's a good name for an illusionist duo (male and female)?

>>53702703
You could try your hand at Sorcerer or Eldritch Knight first. For those class your just choose which spell you gave during level up.

>>53702726
That's, like, your opinion, man.

>>53702751

What about a wizard?

>>53702679

Watch it on YouTube at 1.5x speed, and split episodes in before and after breaks.

>>53702817
Bill and Hill

Their greatest illusion is pretending they have a good relationship.

>>53702744
>complete quest for your patron
>patron grants you the Dark Gemstone of Edge
>grants you a flat +1 spell slot

>complete a quest taking down an enemy warlock
>loot his corpse
>find a magical eldritch dagger with "LIFE IS SUFFERING" carved into it in infernal/abyssal
>when you hold it your patron tells you to cut yourself
>if you do so it permanently grants you the, I don't know, the Gothic Menace invocation or something
ez

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>>53702672

Mystic is how everything should've been. There's few mechanical character concepts I could play that aren't better done with a mystic of one stripe or another. It does almost everything.

>>53702815

Fixing it with loot doesn't make it better.

>>53702854
No, but it is an option. And is probably better than making twenty different homebrew pdfs.

>>53702825
Wizard choose what spell they want to use from their spell book each day.

You can cast chosen spell freely as long as you have the spell slot for it. Unlike 3.pf, you dont have to decide how many time you want to cast fireball today. You can just cast fireball how many time you want as long as you have enough spell slot for it.

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>my b-day coming up soon
>going to invite all my friends/players except one "that guy"
>after bowling we're going to do a free for all battle royal with our characters for fun
>one of my players wants "that guy" to join to truly see who is the best of us
>if i do it, everyone has to play dumb about what happened earlier that day

what do you guys think? are "that guys" just as bad when it comes to pvp or worse?

>>53702703
Go Cleric, you can still be a martial of sorts, and can't fuck up spell selection as you prepare spells

>>53702906
worse.

>>53702906
> 5e
> pvp
All of you are grognard anyway. Why not?

>>53702906
Don't do it.
They're be insufferable no matter the outcome.

If they win they will gloat.
If they lose they will bitch about something being unfair.

They will suck away all fun you could've had between the group of friends that understands the pvp is just for shits and giggles. Don't do it.

>>53702906

I don't know about how 'that guy' does at PvP, but I do know his tears will be the sweetest nectar should he lose.

That said, if he wins, you will regret it the rest of your days.

>>53702941
No, it won't even be that sweet. You can easily make him lose if you just target him, and if everyone sees him as that guy, surely everyone will.
Then he will bitch and moan about it being unfair.

>>53702906
Better not call him at all, OP.
If anyone confronts you on why, it's your birthday and you'd rather not have him. No need to be rude about it, they'll understand.

>>53702596
Anyone else feel like they're kinda...jaded? I dunno I'm stuck in episode 30ish but I wanted to watch this episode to see what's up with them and they all look bored and like going through the motions.

>>53702796
>free choice of damage
you're probably right. I'll change it to a damage type based on patron.

>learning invocations spells is broken
I disagree. It's certainly powerful, which is why I've generally increased the level of these invocations. For instance, at level 5 (the minimum level to get bane with my homebrew), a bard could cast the spell 9 times in a standard adventuring day. The warlock could cast it 3-7 times in a standard adventuring day using my homebrew. This is assuming both players devote all spell slots to casting the spell. In terms of targets affected by the spell, the warlock could affect 33 total targets (3*2*5+1*3), and the bard could affect 34 (4*3+3*4+2*5) total targets.

>conjure animals summining 8 pixies
This is only a problem if the DM gives you 8 pixies. The dm could as well give you a mixture of blink dogs and sprites, pulling purely from vanilla resources.

>>53702968
Been doing it this long and probably tired of the internet reeeeing at them for trying to have fun.

>>53702968
I don't think so. They've currently got fucking Jon Heder as a guest player and they can't stop giggling about everything.

Anyway, they're all like level 17 now, and it seems like they're stepping into the final arc about now.

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>>53702596
>>53702612
>>53702997
i REALLY hope it's the vecna reveal and he just fucking wastes somebody

>>53702968
I don't think it's jaded as much as it might be a case of campaign/character exhaustion, as they've been doing playing these characters for 100 fucking episodes for 3-5 hours at a time (basically) every week for 2-3 years non-stop, along with another couple years of monthly 6-8 hour sessions for a couple years prior to the stream.

>>53703043
Only person they would is the guest, they're a show not gonna axe one of the stars.

>>53703043
My guess is that it is the Vecna reveal, but instead of him walking through and just vaporizing them, they get to the portal, enter into the Shadowfell and have to climb up through his tower (which we got an idea/vision of thanks to Vex's Hawkeye Shot from her Legendary weapon).

>>53703076
Sam's playing two characters right now, they could kill off his alternate character, but even at their level it's likely that they can revive him even from body disintegration with either Pike or Keyleth's magic.

>>53702906
Don't do pvp in 5e anon. The system wasn't made for PvP at all. All PC are glass cannon, your match will just come down to "whoever get higher initiative win".

>>53702976
>at level 5 (the minimum level to get bane with my homebrew)
Bane's not the issue, no one ever thinks Bane's the issue. If you're the same guy from yesterday I imagine you still have Conjure Elemental in there? If so it's still busted.

>>53702923
>>53703093
the critical role battle royal seemed like a ton of fun, we're around their level when they did it

Been in a game where we do one-shots but with the same characters, where we rotate DMs.
It's fucking fun and saved me from being a forever DM. However, I still DM for a long term campaign.

I really love that each time you're a player party dynamic changes just slightly. Because you're missing one character that was there before, and gained one that wasn't due to rotation.
Meanwhile, the DM will have the same characters to DM for so they can have a feel for balance for that particular group.

Current situation we're two rogues and a bard infiltrating a camp as the sneakiest and most silver-tongued motherfuckers alive. Expertise has had us all rolling 20+ on our relevant skill checks. Fun shit. Makes me want to run a campaign where each member is a part of a thieves guild and the whole thing is just heists and shit.

>>53703104
No, conjure elemental has been replaced with a modified conjure animals, and shifted towards once per short rest.

Polymorph has been switched to just learning the spell (no free casts), and moved to level 12.

>>53703091
Not sure about that, they might but it seems like they tried to set him up for a happily ever after.

>>53703091
All Matt has to do is lie about the resurrection roll for whichever is better for the plot.

>>53702783
Yeah in the previous lock UA for blade fey warlocks

>4 luck o'brien

thank fucking god they're calling vax out on the thordak bullshit

>>53702791
Are you fucking kidding me? So the hexblade pact doesn't exist anymore as well?

>>53703176
Hexblade is coming into the next book with some changes, Curse Bringer invocation baseline and god knows what else

>>53703176
They might add it in the next supplement, but as it stands, the latest UA removed it. The latest UA is stupid though.

>>53703145
or, you know, talk to the players beforehand about a possible plot hook

>>53703145
Yeah just ignore that he has a shit ton of dice back there

Ensnaring Strike
1st-level conjuration
Casting Time: 1 bonus action
Range: Self
Components: V
Duration: Concentration, up to 1 minute
The next time you hit a creature with a weapon attack before this spell ends, a writhing mass of thorny vines appears at the point of impact, and the target must succeed on a Strength saving throw or be restrained by the magical vines until the spell ends. A Large or larger creature has advantage on this saving throw. If the target succeeds on the save, the vines shrivel away.

While restrained by this spell, the target takes 1d6 piercing damage at the start of each of its turns. A creature restrained by the vines or one that can touch the creature can use its action to make a Strength check against your spell save DC. On a success, the target is freed.

At Higher Levels: If you cast this spell using a spell slot of 2nd level or higher, the damage increases by 1d6 for each slot level above 1st.

Classes: Paladin (Ancients), Ranger

Does this mean for 1 minute all my attack apply this effect?

>>53703219
>The next time you hit a creature with a weapon attack before this spell ends

No. You get one hit for the spell, and then the status condition lasts as long as you concentrate.

>>53703198
The last UA directly referenced its features, it didn't include it because it probably didn't require significant revisions.

>>53703119
Don't listen to these fuckers. It's a ton of fun.
Just make sure your players understand the unspoken rule of targetting the faggot that tries to hide/avoid combat the entire time, like you would do if you're playing super smash bros.

Also, mention before you start that IT IS really unbalanced. Here's a couple alternate house rules you might want to consider that could make it even more fun.

>lair actions for the map on initiative 20
>random spawn locations
>if a player survives his death saves, they respawn with half hp (location determined randomly, that means nat 20 puts them at half HP too). This gives incentive to spend your extra actions/attacks to make sure the fucker is dead. Also, saving a PC from death could spark temporary alliances with inevitable betrayals.
>give everyone prep time before the battle begins (equal to a long rest, so they can change spells as needed)
>give a prep round at the start of combat, no attacking, just movement and non-attack spells
>consider using dynamic initiative (roll initiative at the start of every round)

>>53703051
Yeah, that's what I thought. This is their final arc right? After this they start over with new characters?

>>53703237
It doesn't have the Curse Bringer invocation anymore though so it needs significant revisions one way or another.

>>53703210
yeah, that's what I mean.
>>53703214
yeah, I've said this before
>sets the dice for whatever number he wants it to be
>rolls a dice
>takes a picture of the dice he already set up
WOW GUYS LOOK A NATURAL 20

>>53703155
Didn't you read the current UA? They get rid of all the unpopular invocation from the previous UA.

>>53703260
From the way they've been talking yes

>>53703282
I'm still wondering who this mysterious majority is. I haven't seen anyone on reddit or 4chan so far who was happy with the changes if they were aware of how things were in the original warlock UA.

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>>53702223
>Who was the most memorable player you've played with or DMed for?

None, really. Because it's pretty much impossible to make a memorable character for D&D 5e. The game encourages you to point-buy or use standard array because rolling unbalances the game's shit-tarded ASI system and hard-caps on attribute levels. If you roll an 18 and pick a the right race you can easily start at max level for an attribute. Also, due to good old bounded accuracy, your attributes matter more than ever before. This means that the stat caps ARE required, and because instant gratification (also known as """fun""") is a core part of post-3.5 design philosophy, ASIs are a +2 instead of a +1 because that way your bonus reflects the stat increase ever single ASI instead of every other ASI. (It's important to note that this need for instant gratification is also why a 20 is now an automatic critical instead of having a confirm roll). Mix this with the scarcity of feats, and the fact that D&D has always been about building toward your class and has heavily punished building against type (salty /tg/ 5fags will defend this by saying "well OBVIOUSLY you're retarded for wanting to play a dex-based fighter or barbarian, kys"). Now more than ever as stats become absolutely vital to your character's potential. Archetypes are somewhat cool but they dumb down character creation to one of three choices, there are only a few possible builds for each class, there are no interesting feats and feats have to do twice as much work because they all have to be equivalent to an ASI. Characters get more than they did in any previous edition, but they get fewer choices, so advancement is basically meaningless because there are basically no choices unless you want to purposely gimp yourself.

I'll still play 5e, but it's never going to be good like it could have been.

>>53703176
hexblade still exist. They replace all invocations, not patron.

>>53702343
I agree with you here but
one of my problems with warlock is the amount of flavor but lack of choices within it
i see about 2 ways to start and end a warlock and while some variations exist most warlocks follow the path of
1. Subservient follower would never question their master and basically a cultist
2. Reluctantly does what the thing wants because the player needs and wants power
just my opinion though if you have other experiences id love to hear them

>>53703293
I know this is bait, or you're that autist.
But 5e is based around actually roleplaying more than rollplaying. That's how you have fun. That's how you make memorable characters.

>>53702880
Perfect. Thank you.

>>53703260
They've been waiting for Matt to drop the hammer and begin the final arc, so far they've done a couple minor arcs (Pike's family, Tary's home town) and a lot of the viewers think we're going to get either Vecna or Orcus as the final arc's big bad.

>>53703335
It's Wayne he's that type of autist just ignore him

So I'm the only person in the world who enjoys Warlocks mechanically but hates their fluff?

I don't mind being a bit behind in combat because they actually get some interesting out of combat abilities. Also Bladelocks are silly.

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>>53702817
>Not making druid brothers called Wonder Twins

>>53703233
I am doing it wrong then. I will still rule it like I did before, so I won't have to deal with ranger multi-shot and because it cool.

>>53703335
>But 5e is based around actually roleplaying more than rollplaying. That's how you have fun. That's how you make memorable characters.

You can do that in any system. So, that is completely irrelevant in a discussion of 5e quality. I could take a shit on a piece of paper, pretend it's a system, then say "no, no, it's about the ROLEplaying." But that doesn't make my system anything but a shit on a piece of paper. 5e has zero roleplay mechanics. background is just a bullshit excuse for what people did in the older editions, which was pick skills based on their background. It is no different and no better, and adds little to no character customization.

If you think mechanical customization is not an important part of an RPG, you're playing the wrong system friendo.

>>53702596
>critical roll
>100 episodes of """epic"""
>those 6/10 roasties screeching every time they get a nat20
>matt mercer looking like a pedophile
>4 nat20s per episode
>4 earrapes per episode

The only reason to watch Critical Role is to lose your last miniscule speck of faith in humanity before killing yourself. It is a gathering of hipster nu-males and screeching whores they plop at a table, add a ton of boring shit on the screen, and then proceed to laugh autistically over inane shit for 2.5 hours. It is basically a RoosterTeeth video, except with a D&D session attached. These people are the biggest faggots on the planet. Matt Mercer's homebrew is shit, he's passable at best as a DM, and the women can't do anything except make fart / period jokes because they are disgusting whores. The other fat-asses aren't much better and are likely just there for the free attention and a chance at scoring with used up voice actress cunts. If you spend your free time watching D&D, it is because you are a fucking social reject. Because you clearly cannot find a game. Because if you could find a game you would not be watching 2 to 3 hour episodes of these fags' "banter". I cannot think of anything more boring than watching some other people I don't give a fuck about, playing D&D. I'd rather paint my toenails with my dick cheese. What a fucking waste of time. I seriously hope Critical Role charters a bus and the bus crashes and they all fucking die. I am not even memeing, I fucking hate these cocksuckers, they are more obxnoious than the Yogscast/Roosterteeth, and they are flooding our hobby with these autistic youtube gaming addicts who will fuck up your D&D campaign and whine that it should be more like Skyrim.

>>53703399
>If you think mechanical customization is not an important part of an RPG, you're playing the wrong system friendo.
Or maybe you are? Since you seem to think 5e lacks proper roleplay mechanics.

Oh man, look who came back.

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>>53702223
That spastic ADD ritalin kid from when I used to DM in a LGS. His mental problems made it almost impossible to play the game as he couldn't pay attention to a conversation, and would respond to direct questions with literal non-sequiturs about Skyrim, and this isn't bullshit.
After week 2 I talked to him after the game, and said he should try other games, and that I couldn't DM for him. Then he came back, and I had to tell him not to come back. After that I saw him mangling a fellow DM's game, and the week after that he disappeared.

>>53703416
I'll encourage this behavior if you just keep saying bad things about Marisha. She's the worst creature to ever defile our Lord's good green earth.

>>53703332
Eve in the PHB it is mentioned GOOlocks are not even necessarily in a "pact" with their patrons, just mooching off their power since they're relatively so insignificant the being may not even notice it. Archfey could easily be someone raised by a fairy/in love with their patron, and while it could not make a lot of sense for GOO, there's nothing stopping a warlock's relationship with their patron from being amicable. Think Faust/Mephistopheles. Particularly if the game starts at mid-levels, you could also spin it as the character being his patron's chosen "champion" rather than a pawn or lowly servant. Or perhaps he IS a pawn, but the patron was severely weakened and the character's development as a warlock is directly tied to the being recovering its strength. Just as some ideas of what you could do with a warlock.

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>>53703416
oh god, get over yourself

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>>53703367
>Not making a druid with the power of 10 tigers

>>53703433
>>53703451
>falling for this copypasta

>>53703441
I made what is essentially Link (bladelock) with an Archfey fairy, which is essentially navi.

It wasn't supposed to be, but my GM sure if being a faggot with that fucking fairy, holy shit. I want to bottle it and watch it slowly drown in piss, Jesus fucking Christ.

>>53703416
I don't know if you're just trying to be a troll or this is copypasta or what... but I agree with you.

Honestly they're terrible at what they do, I mean it does create a wider interest in D&D which is good for WotC's profits and means we're more likely to see new books, other then that it's shit.

I don't understand how anyone can enjoy watching them over getting a small one shot and advertising for players on Roll20, at least you might get lucky and meet a good player while improving your skills there.

Call me a faggot if you like, (and this fits the concept of binder a bit better) but playing warlock like how they set up persona users in Persona is pretty cool. Would definitely enjoy playing one like that.

>>53703441
Yeah but as i said warlock quite literally has 2 paths he can follow even all your suggestions lead him down one or the other
Subservient
Biding time for power
that's one of my only problems with it i think warlock starting and mid game are great but as you get higher into levels its goes 1 of 2 ways

>>53703475
I know it was copypasta. I'm just saying I can never get enough of people saying bad things about marisha. She's the worst.

>>53703486
Only good way to play a Warlock imo.

Though I've been tempted to run a modern 5e D&D game set in the Persona universe. I think it could be fun.

>>53703480
sounds like they're doing their job.
>killing it doesn't actually kill it
That's the best part

>>53703433
>>53703503
Marisha is a worthless cunt but Mercer is just as bad. Especially with this shitty DM advice videos, like who the fuck does he think he is? The only thing he's good at is voice acting. I truly pity people who think his description is good, because that means they've never had a competent game master. Not to mention, Matthew Mercer is contributing more to the downfall of the D&D community than anyone else in history. Not even Monte Cook, not even Lorraine Williams, not even Micheal Merals, not even Gary Gygax himself have done as much damage to D&D. Mercer has made the game palatable to the kind of person who spends his Friday nights playing Cards Against Humanity while slobbering microbrews all over his beard while his wife's son is sleeping in the next room. The kind of moron who thinks mirthful laughter is the end goal of everything, and fails to understand the potential that RPGs have as a fulfilling hobby. Instead, he shits on that creative potential by turning the entire game into a joke, refusing to take anything seriously and making gimmick characters, bringing along his fat girlfriend to make a shitty elf druid character that she hardly roleplays, screeching autistically whenever she rolls a natural 20 because that is the only aspect of the game that her tiny female brain can comprehend, taking copious pictures of the game and posting them to Snapchat and Instagram to show what a geek she is, before getting tired at 11 and tugging at her cuck boyfriend's shoulder so that they both leave and disrupt the immersion even further, because the game doesn't matter to these people at all. It is a mode of entertainment, nothing else.

>>53702559
What's your aim exactly? The other two pacts still rely on invocations. Are you really trying to fix warlock or bladelock?
Instead of fixing the problematic invocations, you touched the fine ones, buffed them, and put them way later than normal progression to remedy it.

You're trying to make a second wizard.

>>53702672
Warlock shouldn't have spells, and it should only have at will Invocation like abilities. Kill the short rest all together.

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If you're a Warlock and you gain the Boots of Striding and Springing and you use your Otherworldly Leap invocation does that mean you gain 6 times the jumping distance?

>>53703538
sounds like you're really jealous of matt because you know you can't admit that he's an amazing dm

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>>53703431
Do you think that's bad? I've had a player who kept making references to League Of Legends all the fucking time, comparing the characters to League characters and other autistic shit. This was the first time i actually wanted to kill a player in RL.

>>53703538
>Using this stale copypasta

nigga at least use fresh, jesus

Is a Half-Orc College of valor bard too cheesy? I wanted to make him some sort of greaser but with horses and raiding parties.

>>53703538
What is this meme about spelling Mearls wrong?

Huh normally these threads go to shit around the 250 mark, looks like we're starting early tonight.

>>53702596
I just hate keyleth, vex and vax. so much that I have the urge to punch them whenever they speak.

otherwise have kept watching

>>53703580
It would be 9x the distance but
>you can jump three times the normal distance, though you can't jump farther than your remaining movement would allow.
you'll probably reach this limit before, also, I'd rule they don't stack as the boots are clearly Jump + Longstrider spell.

How would you guys implement Witcher-like potions in D&D?

>>53703271
Eldritch Smite is intended to replace all of the special weapons. Which sucks, but with the backlash they've gotten hopefully they reverse their decision.

>>53703659
take the effects and slap the same name on them and put them in the game?
like the cat-eye potion i think is already in 5e (may be wrong)

>>53703659
I'd implement morrowind style or Farcry 3 style potions before I did Witcher style potions.

>>53703684
>Backlash

Don't hold your breath it'll be drowned out by the Reddit theory crafting fags

>>53703604
No, that sounds fucking rad. Do it, nigga.

>>53703581
>sounds like you're really jealous of matt because you know you can't admit that he's an amazing dm

HAHAHAHAHA

He's okay, certainly better than most of the tripe that's out there. But he is far from "amazing." Sorry if you and your friends are shit at DMing. To be fair, there are a lot of shit DMs out there.

>>53703367
Wrong
Make a druid and a sea sorceror

>>53703659
>item: Potion Base
>creates potions of different magical effects when mixed with different items
>Alchemist characters probably the only ones who can make them.

>>53703570
I think this would be the best solution. I'd go as far as to say it shouldn't have patrons as a feature either and they should just be turned into invocations that grant a spell set with at wills, some short/long rest spells, or other patron features. Then you get some flavor flexibility with the patron style invocations as more of a side hustle in your quest for eldritch lore so you don't run into >>53703495 so easily.

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>>53703704
Or by even dumber shit lul

>>53703695
Personally I'd add more potion based spells like Healing Elixir.

Or thunderstones and tanglefoot bags. Make Arcane Tricksters and Arcanists use spells and magic items that blur the distinction between the two.

>>53702906
Are all of you That Guys?

>>53702559
Eldritch Blast feature at the start says charisma when it should probably say int.
I still feel like blade's fix is either making it function like a melee eldritch blast (so you're not as fucked when you get close to someone, but you still don't want to be on the frontlines) or having it as a patron (hexblade).
I always like changing it so invocation spells per long rest don't also use a slot.
Invocations seem cool but I'm not sure if that's really sufficient to fix the class.

I just do
>Globally, short rests are 5 minutes and casters can use lesser stat instead of default (wis>cha>int).
>Expanded Spell List spells function as Patron spells, not counting towards max Warlock spells known and learned automatically when you reach the level indicated.
>Invocations that require a warlock spell slot to cast no longer do so, and are always cast at the lowest possible level.
>Bladelock: You can channel Eldritch Blast through your weapon, functioning the same as the spell except as a melee attack instead of a ranged spell attack.

>>53703744
>Critical Role's Marisha Ray On Character Building and Acting
You can't make this shit up

>>53703684
It's more about the fact that Curse Bringer let you shift your Hexblade's Curse around. Without that prior to level 14 you get to put it on exactly one enemy per short rest which is pretty abysmal even if your DM is very generous with short rests.

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>>53703744
>Critical Role's Marisha Ray On Character Building And Acting

This is a joke right?

>>53703770
>>Globally, short rests are 5 minutes and casters can use lesser stat instead of default (wis>cha>int).

Yeah, I'm gonna recommend the short rests for general. As for stat switching, It's a valid approach, but I haven't decided the best way to implement it yet.

>Expanded Spell List spells function as Patron spells, not counting towards max Warlock spells known and learned automatically when you reach the level indicated.

Good idea. This should probably be the rule for every class. I'll add it in.

>Invocations that require a warlock spell slot to cast no longer do so, and are always cast at the lowest possible level.

Yeah, I've tried to do away with spell slot taxes.

>Bladelock: You can channel Eldritch Blast through your weapon, functioning the same as the spell except as a melee attack instead of a ranged spell attack.

Interesting. I'll consider this approach and get back with something.

>>53703785
its usually pretty "ok" but whenever critical role happens the entire board spergs out
>>53703810
if you want gold the video is by dungeon life some good shit lul

I, for one, love the Critical Role pastas. Keep it coming, but keep it fresh.

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>search for dragonborn artwork
>find furry shit everywhere
Should I just give up?

>>53703640
I feel that Vex has improved as a character over the course of the show, partially thanks to her interactions with Percy, and she's out of the "dumpster tier" that is Vax and Keyleth.

>>53703568
I'm trying to fix the entire warlock, and started with bladelock. I'll eventually work in changes to the other pact boons, and even the patrons themselves.

Is this critical role general?

How does the Monster hunter sub-class for fighter compare to the other fighter sub-classes?

>>53703875
Welcome to the world of nonhuman characters. Enjoy your stay.

It's hard, honestly

>>53703900
it's 5e dnd and it's their 100th episode, just let us talk about it for a few hours and it'll end soon

>>53703917
They moved it to ranger

>>53703900
Not usually, but the show is having it's 100th episode air right now, so forgive the discussions in here having some relation to that.

>>53703919
>>53703929
Sure, since you guys are being polite about it.

>>53703883
i've never been able to get into critical role i've found it out side of my taste for d&d shows
anybody got a ranking or somthing for the characters? like how good/bad the characters are and why?

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>>53703828
For the stat switching, it doesn't mechanically do anything except making some multiclassing options better (and this is for casters so few of them will want to multiclass at all). The main reason I do it is because it makes sense to have a studious paladin, sorcerer or cleric, or a charismatic cleric or druid (at least as much sense as charismatic warlock which people are used to), and so on. It opens up character ideas without breaking anything as far as I have been able to think of (the only iffy one I think is charisma ranger, but if it's learning nature magic innate to the natural world, it could be like sorcerers. Cha is a weird casting stat anyway).

I love domain spells so I've used that for both warlock and sorcerer to buff them, not sure why they only went half-way with warlock.

>>53703875
My problem is that there are so many different kinds of dragonborn out there. There's no unified dragonman look, I'll find some great art but they have wrong horns, wings or a tail, or smaller differences that makes them ill fit for D&D dragonborn character art.

>>53703984
I don't have a particular ranking, but Grog is the best character, period.

>>53703984
grog best because travis is the perfect man in all aspects of life
scanlan second because sam is super funny and is amazing at improvising
percy third because he's got an interesting character/history and he's good at roleplaying
pike fourth because ashley is good at problem solving and is chill
laura fifth because she's okay, too impulsive though
liam sixth because vax is edgy, melodramatic, and a known cheater
marisha last because kelyleth is dumb, doesn't know what her spells do, and plays the fish out of water card several years after living in modern society

>>53704006
is the show worth getting through the first couple of episodes just for grog?

Warlocks are fine.

>>53704006
Travis and Sam carry the show. I like Sam's new character better. An anxious wannabe hero is better than a shit and piss bard, though he did RP my favorite scene as Scanlan

>>53704038
the show is actually good, there's a guy named orion and he plays a dragomborn named tiberius. he's a shithead and got kicked out for being a shithead. the show drastically improves when he leaves and the arc with the villains called the Briarwoods is hardcore, in both roleplaying and combat

>>53703984
Best to worst
Grog > Scanlan > Percy > Vex > (Pike) > Vax > Marisha

I don't list Keyleth as a character because Marisha plays herself. Ashley's character, Pike, is in parenthesis and is only ranked such because she just isn't around enough to actually fuck up.

>>53704038
Oof, that's a tough one. Tiberius grated me from ep1 and he only got worse. Watch the first arc and then skip to when they kick out Orion and you're good. It's what I did at least.

>>53704039
Warlocks are OP! They get a Paladin Smite that knocks anything huge or smaller prone! Prone!!

>>53704038
Start at episode 30. Otherwise you have to sit through Tiberius being that guy.

>>53704038
Skip the first arc, it's not worth going through the growing pains of audio issues and dealing with Orion.

I believe the beginning of the Briarwood arc - around episode 23 or 24 - is when things get good, partially in thanks to Taliesin (who up to this point has been very passive and in the shadows of the show) steps up to the plate and has a great character arc.

>>53704065
The show peaked during Briarwood's arc imo.

>>53704082
>>53704086
anybody got an exact episode?

>>53704089
i agree, the dragons were really cool though. i hope to fuck vecna is revealed tonight. but it's been THREE HOURS and fuck nothing has happened

>>53704038
I recently started watching after being turned off at the start, a thread suggested to start at episode 28 since it's a new arc and the first episode without Tiberius and it's pretty fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE27NwtXjPY&index=28&list=PLqTT_VuffgDP0I6accl0jP5p3kxBRPVPa

Grog is great, Scanlan has great moments and is great at RPing, marisha is shit and otherwise I don't have very strong feelings. Percy is a bit edgy and it gets a bit too much for me at times during that arc at least, Liam is cool but Vax isn't a very good character, Ashley is nice because she just seems to genuinely enjoy herself.

If you want to witness Keyleth being bad, just watch episode 31. Basically she tries to metagame, is disallowed, whines about it and then metagames anyway but in a way that Matt doesn't realize before it's too late to stop. Orion had some bad metagaming, didn't respect the gm and did a lot of stuff separate from the party taking up time, and she isn't as bad as that, but she still makes things all about her way too often and is generally just so annoying.

>>53704098
just keep clicking around the low twenty's until you notice that the bald guy is gone

>>53704103
Some feels going on right now, but otherwise, yeah. It's comfy so far but kinda pointless.

>>53704103
Yeah, I agree. Nothing at all has happened tonight.
The dragons were cool but the Thordak fight was a massive letdown. But in a weird way I was happy to see Marisha fuck up so hugely and immediately at the beginning of that fight.

I forget his name, but the black dragon fight was really pretty good.

>>53704098
The very, very, VERY beginnings of the Briarwood arc begin in episode 24, when the group meets the Briarwoods in the country's home capital.

It's a good 15-20 episode arc.

>>53704120
What did the bald guy do?

>>53703917
It's one of the strongest Fighter subclasses. Right out the gate it can use Superiority Dice for Precision Attack, Mage Slayer, boosting a Fighter's weakest saves, and Perception and Insight skills. On top of that you get two Skills and some useful magic.

Monster Slayer has the same problem as Favored Enemy, however it covers a wide variety of the most troublesome D&D enemy types.

Add in Martial Adept to pick up Trip Attack and your next favorite Battlemaster maneuver and it is literally the Battlemaster with better out of combat utility. I hope it makes the crunch book but with the piece of shit Cavelier taking up a spot my optimism is limited.

>>53704129
The only bad part of this is that you have to sit through about three episodes of Orion, especially the "shopping episode" which is almost 2 hours of nothing happening in the worst way possible.

>>53704098
To be honest I think you should start from the beginning ONLY because we all know how fun it is to shit on That Guy, and if you don't get to see the shithead that is Orion, you don't get to take a piss on him like we all like to.
Also it's fucking brilliant how angry Travis gets towards him just from his facial expression. Very next game he's gone. It was beautiful.

>>53703898
Ah, ok then. Just try to not fix what's not broken, though.
Also, don't take my stuff too hard, I know you may not get stuff right at first. Hope you can find something you're happy with.

>>53704141
he was a dick in game, wasting time, trolling, and arguing with the dm

out of game someone made a fan t-shirt with his character's slogan on it and totally flipped out for no reason. he yelled at the fan, called him a piece of shit, and told him he is not wanted as a fan. the other members reached out to the poor guy to apologize but that was the last straw for orion and he got kicked out

he was going through chemo for cancer but it's still weird that he lashed out like that

>>53704159
And the absolute gem of that episode: Travis whispering "I'm gonna fucking kill him" and looking mad as fuck.

>>53704188
gave me a half-chub, to be honest

>>53704141
always wanted to be the center of attention and the hero that saved the day.

To give you an idea about the worst of it was when they were fighting the beholder at the end of the underdark arc. The team didn't want to do his plan so he pretty much said fuck you and ran away, doing nothing for the whole episode save getting the final hit in and gloating about how he killed the boss anyways.

ok you guys convinced me im now gonna attempt to get through it thanks for the help guys

>>53703335
There is no need to "build" a game around role-playing, the amount of RP is determined by the players and the GM, not the ruleset.

>>53704211
it dips in quality. the highs are fantastic but the lows are boring as fuck

>>53704211
No prob. Anything to spite the pastafag.

>>53704211
Seriously, skip the first 20-ish episodes, leave the thing running in the background and treat it like a podcast and you'll enjoy it much more than watching them talk and minor acting for 4 hours.

>>53704211
good luck lad, it makes great background noise

>>53704234
Do what I do and multitask when things get kinda boring. Like theorycraft a character you'll never ever get to play.

>>53704141

He was "That guy" to a point, but he wasn't the DM's fiance, so the other players didnt let him get away with shit and then he blew a lid on a fan after apparently he had a really shit day because of chemo and not feeling welcome at CR, something like that. I dunno I stopped watching somewhere in the 50s because one of the other players was doing of alot of the same shit that people shit on the bald guy for but no one cares because shes the DMs fiance

>>53704277
truly, the "DM's gf" scenario

>>53704277
Yeah, that would be Marisha. Meta-gaming redhead DM girlfriend.

>>53704292
>>53704288
I REALLY hope she isn't in the next game. But I'm not holding my breath.
If anything, hopefully she plays a character that is canonically similar to her in personality, because she's completely unable to play anything but herself.

>>53703581
This is worse than the copypasta.

>>53704057
>A Trump parody is better

It's pure cringe that he pulled that as a joke character and people take it seriously

>>53704303
why the hell wouldn't she be? they're all friends and she's the DM's fiance

>>53704315
She's gotten a lot of shit for being shit. It might put her off. But probably won't.

>>53704310
fuck off, you faggots are no different than /v/ shitting on a good game because it's popular. matt is objectively a great dm, just get over yourself

>>53704312
He is also gay because politics and muh representation

>>53704303

As long as it isnt literally the Avatar as a druid.... Maybe she'll just rip off another franchise and have then matt do most of the work again to make the character have interesting plot/background opportunities

>>53704329
I'm jealous of matt because the red head is kind of hot, and I wish I could do voices like he does.

>>53704329
He does a fantastic job for the kind of game they're running.
I can see how people would call him shit if they're expecting a dungeon crawl. Because critical role is not at all a dungeon crawl and so long as characters don't just jump off a cliff they're basically not going to die. And even then, they live.

What was wrong with Orion? And what do you guys think of Dice Camera Action?

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>it's a Grog or Scanlan episode

>>53704356
>>53704185

I feel bad for Marisha. Yeah she's not great at the game, but people give her way too much shit. It's just a game, no reason to personally attack the poor girl.

>>53704329

The problem isnt matt or the popularity. The problem is half the characters/players being objectively terrible assholes

>>53704356
I like Dice Camera Action from what I've seen. Because I like how Perkins DMs.

I didn't get far so I don't know how it goes, but I hated the tiefling warlock both as a character and player from the get-go. But that might just be my negative bias towards those kinds of players that gravitate toward that combination. Might give it another shot later.

>>53704362
people get mad because she's performing on a show that people devote 4 hours to watch and she doesn't know how to play the goddamn game they're streaming. it's irritating as fuck having to watch her fumble around in her book and lying to matt, trying to convince him to bend the rules for her. it's a waste of time that people are sacrificing a lot of

>>53704377

Strix is the best =) Believe me I had those same reservations but I think she actually does interesting with it

>>53704356
>>53704377
i absolutely despise dice camera action soley because of that black haired guy. he was unbelievably annoying

>>53704384
don't forget that she stumbles around like a literal drunken idiot.
That's not cola in her mug.

>>53704384
It's also quite nice when he shuts her down though. When she heat metals Liam's daggers and he takes damage and drops them because she never read the spell and just assumed it worked like in PF for example. When she gets away with metagaming and shit it's really annoying though.

Arcane Tricker is fun!

>>53704397
this

she's literally drunk every other episode

>>53704394
Aight. We'll see. I didn't quit watching because of her. But she definitely was annoying in the beginning. Probably just working out the kinks as was the paladin as they felt out party dynamics. At least the paladin player was naturally charismatic irl so you can see past her annoyances.

Marisha is my only reason for watching Critical Role because she's so hot

How do I abuse subtle spell?

>>53704329
I legitimately don't think he's a good DM.

He's not awful, but he's like, low-middle tier.

>>53704415

That was the funniest part of the one game she was part for the strem of annihilation Everyone else had water in front of them and the camera panned over to her rolling and there was clearly scotch in front of her

>>53704397
>>53704415
Especially in tense big fights, since they keep trying to build plans around her and they go to shit within minutes.

>>53704451
really? the only reason? or the main reason?

>>53704462
He's definitely above average when it comes to character voices and keeping things straight regarding his places and npcs. Well, despite the fact that two of his npcs are gay.

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>>53704451
>Marisha/Keyleth
>Hot

>Matt referenced jojo

nice

>>53704477
oh god forbid that two out of dozens of npc's are gay

>>53704465
To her credit, throughout the Stream of Annihilation her playing a Bard was probably the most enjoyable she's been on camera in dozens of CR episodes.

>>53704397
>>53704415
Do you not go through a 1/2 a fifth of whiskey+ a bottle of wine+ some beers in a night of D&D? (As a group)

>>53704483
jojo has been normie tier for a while now
referencing it is the thing to do because memes lol xD

>>53704457
Be in the right game with the right DM. Then get him to let you play Mystic because subtle spell is a default feature.

>>53704493
Well, they happen to be the two most powerful wizards and a very powerful paladin or cleric, I don't remember what that one is. But I think one of those is technically bisexual? who fucking cares. It's all political circlejerking/virtue signaling anyway.

>>53704477
Three, at the very least. Kima, Allura and Gilmore.
And yeah, at first I used to think he's amazing. But after 100+ episodes (including one-shots and stuff)... Well, he can't really control the pace of the game when players start roleplaying unnecessary stuff, and his plot is meh at best.

Meanwhile, on stream:

> Guest barbarian rolls two nat 20s trying to impress Grog
> Travis looks ready to commit sudoku

How do I play a Knight-Errant from a distant land in FR Sword Coast generic world?

Both mechanical and roleplay ideas are welcome.

>>53704395
Nate/Paultin is the worst of the bunch, and between his shit roleplaying (makes a good argument against chaotic neutrals, I must say) and his shitty attendance I'm surprised he hasn't been replaced.

How do you handle chase scene?

skill chellenge

>>53704524
poor travis barely gets to swing his sword every ten or so episodes

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How do we feel about Drow wearing cloaks to counter sunlight sensitivity?

>>53704499
As a group, sure. But I never drink and use it as an excuse to be a shit player.

She was fucking drunk during the kraken fight iirc. They should've TPK'd but matt gave them DM grace.

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>>53704501
>ora ora xd
>everything shifts around and now you're in a cloud of daggers. WREEEEE :)

>>53704531

Sack him get Dee/Erika as regular, would be perfect

>>53704535
I really hope our best guy plays some smart-ass Face character in the next campaign. For once he'll not have to sit in the back for episodes in a row.

>>53704535

> Eldritch gods sucked out Travis' luck and gave it to the guest
> Travis now on suicide watch

>>53704537
Personally I allow it as long as they're not in an environment where the sunlight's really bad. So in the Desert or on top of a Mountain in the middle of a sunny day.

The stigma against them in the world should be penalty enough.

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>>53704548
anti-jojo people are worse

>>53704548
Is this a Jojo reference?

>>53704539
That's fair, I feel the same way. Just never seen the show, and don't actually know how much her drinking fucks it up.

>>53704524
Ok now after those 1's you gotta admit, this episode is probably scripted.

>>53704552
Seriously if he played a face or some kind of tactical rogue or bard, or if he just played a wizard, it would be amazing.

>>53704528
Try the Far Traveler background from the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide...
Other than that I guess it all depends on the character you have in mind and the land you think he might be from....

>>53704578
I dunno. I've had crazier things happen.
And if this is scripted, they should fire their writers because fuck all has actually happened.

>>53704550
I am agreeing with you so fucking hard right now.

>>53704578

I doubt its scripted but people who dont think Matt fudges the die constant back there are kidding themselves

>>53704552
>>53704584
he tried that in a one shot and he rolled like ass
poor guy honestly deserves better

>>53704584
tactical barbarians are the most fun class there is.

>>53704578
Eh, I've been in sessions where a single player couldn't roll above a 4, and everyone else was 13+ the entire night.

>>53704584
I think the problem is if he did he would destroy any encounter Matt normally is forced to throw at these chuckle fucks. Out of all of them Travis and Sam are the two who are actually smart and good at the game.

>>53704584
He did play a Rogue with 18 INT in a one-shot and was pretty damn smart with his plans and figuring stuff out, but he just rolled shit the entire night.

I want him to play a tactical Paladin more than a Rogue or a Wizard, simply because I don't think Travis is familiar with the spell system just yet. But if they get some time between the two campaigns and he reads through the spells, he could pull it off.

>>53704628
Vax tries to be, but he still thinks he has to use his reaction for his evasion feature.

>>53704585
I know nothing about FR other then basic Baldur's Gate/SCAG stuff. The more exotic parts of the setting are incredibly daunting to find information about.

I did think about making him from the Fey Wild. A Knight sworn to something from over there. Would rather avoid Paladin though.

Okay, I'm not crying, it's okay.

>>53704665
Travis and Sam steal the show once more

I feel like Travis being the best man ever is the only thing reddit and /tg/ are on the same ground about.

>>53704633
Yeah paladin would be pretty perfect as long as he understands how to use smites.

>>53704578
We essentially TPKd our last session because we had 3 people roll 1s on saving throws vs lycanthropy, and the other 2 failed anyway.

DM asked if we wanted to play an all werewolf campaign, but the group pussied out, so deus ex machina instead.

>>53704642
Well I mean anything can be a "knight", doesn't have to be a Paladin. UA has a "Knight" archetype for Fighters....

As for FR, I know next to nothing of it either, so I can't be of help... Best I can give you is this basic info on the continents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeir-Toril#Continents

>>53704692
>did you crit
>if yes, smite
>if not, do not smite

there

>>53704639
Vax is really carried by having what two Vestiges, those boots and being an Assassin/Paladin. He's decent but I still think if Travis gets a somewhat smart character he will break the game they are used to without much effort.

>>53704719
vax smites with throwing daggers. pisses me off

>>53704719
I think he'd probably reign it in. Since he displays a lot of restraint as Grog already.

>three hours thirty minutes
>no vecna

i was hoping this episode would be a huge-ass fight...

>>53704719
It bothers me that Vax is an assassin and has assassinated 0 people. He also doesn't understand he gets auto crits if he surprises someone. He always says "Hey I'm attacking before he has a turn, it's an auto crit sneak attack"
Matt always has to explain how to assassinate.

>>53704752
to be fair, every single player i've ever been with (including myself) has no idea how to play rogue. i think it's the most complex/confusing class

>>53704751
I don't need a huge-ass fight. But a huge-ass reveal would have been nice. Still might happen.

>>53704751
Shit, something's finally happening.
Mercer, get your shit together already

>>53704764
What the fuck? Are you all idiots?
The only real problem with assassin is that a lot of DMs don't like to let players get surprise rounds because they'll murder fuck anything they manage to.

>>53704765
I think the episode is going to end with a Shadowfell portal to Vecna's Tower reveal.

>>53704709
Most important is to not use other smites unless you really need their non-damage components. It's pretty basic, I think I'm just triggered by the pally in my party using branding smite against mindflayers and shit.

>>53704782
hey man, fuck you

>>53704709
Imagine paladin/champion/barbarian crit.

>>53704790
At least I'm not too stupid to understand easy as fuck mechanics. This is fucking 5e.

>>53704752
Hey look, the twins both got to Assassinate something, at the same time no less.

>>53704799
fuck you, at least i'm not a "that guy" like you

>>53704729
Yeah

>>53704741
Well he's playing his characters stats, dude has six intelligence

>>53704752
Well with the plans they come up with I am not surprised, when Scanlen explains the plan to Kesha sums up every plan of theirs perfectly. You can tell it's what kills Travis during those episodes, I thought it was just that he was bored but after the one shot and a recent comment he let slip he already has a decent plan but can't give it because he's Grog.

>Ok so what are the flaws?
>Our plan

>>53704537
Only if they're Pwafi cloaks.

>>53704814
I don't care about the opinion of an idiot.
>rogues are hard/complex
I still can't tell if you're just pretending to be retarded

>>53704859
and i don't care what some asshole thinks, i'm the best fighter you've never seen

>>53704819
>Well he's playing his characters stats, dude has six intelligence
Sure, but he also displays proper timing. He doesn't step in to speak like an idiot all the time. He waits fort he perfect moment.
It's what separates him from "lol big dumb barbarian" and fucking Grog Strongjaw

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I've asked this a few threads back.... but does anyone have a better NPC statblock to recommend me for evil torturer/executioner-type heavy cultists aside from the Berserker?

>>53704876
>fighter
Alright, you've convinced me.
Anyway, if you don't want people to fire insults at you. Don't hand them the loaded gun.

>>53704377
>>53704394
>>53704419
>>53704395
>>53704531
They've all gotten better, extremely so. The latest episode of DCA, ep 52, is one of the best sessions of D&D ever.

>>53704895
or you could just not be an asshole. now i'm convinced that either you're the player everyone talks about when you're not there or you don't even have a group at all

Level 6 lore bard, whats a good spell to pick for magical secrets? I have counterspell, what else?

>>53704892

I did something like this and I used the veteran statblock.

>three hours forty-five minutes
>no vecna

jesus titty fucking christ

>>53704915
Aura of Vitality

>>53704880
True I could see him doing that, but I just really want him to make a somewhat smart commander type and help them steamroll shit so Mercer has to actually make fights instead of pumping hp and ac.

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>>53703459
>not having strength that is legend
>or skills that conquer all

>>53704913
I DM for two long term campaigns that have gone for over a year. And am a player in a separate campaign. He's a rogue/sorcerer.

But whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm sorry if you think I'm being an asshole. But you just had such a terrible opinion I couldn't let it go.

How about this, what makes rogues so hard for you to grasp?

>>53704764
I'm sorry but I agree with the other guy, Rogues are really easy. Is there a specific thing that was hard for you or what?

>>53704919
That sounds promising. Did you make any changes to its equipment aside from "refluffs" (ie Berserker but with studded leather instead of hide armor which amounts to the same AC)?
I'm kinda worried about editing a statblock beyond applying racial modifiers per DMG because I fear that might hurt the encounter rating, as I'm legit aspergers and don't really see all the subtleties of what determines a CR...

>>53704915
Depends upon how you've built your Lore Bard (support, buff/debuff, damage). Other options include Haste or Fly.

>this circle of death-like sphere
...
masterfully worded, Mercy

>>53704965
>But you just had such a terrible opinion I couldn't let it go

that sounds like autism

>>53704984
Honestly the CR isn't the greatest anyway, the devs have stated they don't use it. Unfortunately it is balanced around pure vanilla game, no feats, no multiclassing, no UA and low access to magic equipment.

It takes practice and time to get encounter building right in this edition.

>>53705001
Oh man, you got me. My feelings are hurt.
Hey, why don't you tell me what makes rogues so tough for you to understand? Or is anything beyond roll a d20 and add a number too difficult of a mechanic?

Does anyone else hate when the thread gets full of CR shit? At least it doesn't happen everyday I guess.

>>53705001
>Where do you think you are?

This is 4chan welcome, people are assholes you get used to it.

>>53704995
ORB OF OBLITERATION

Fuck I missed it. What did Marisha just do? I think she did something retarded.

>>53705019
Since it's technically 5e related and a step up from /pol/ baiting/posting I'll take it

>>53705022
That's a safe assumption

>>53705022
She just described when she was retarded in the past and stuck her hand in the orb that was below Whitestone in that place's ziggurat and nearly lost her hand and got sucked inside.

>>53705015
cute, i play eldritch knight. the wording of the rogue's abilities could have been better, not worth going through the trouble of remembering. now you want to tell me why you're such a bitch? no one returning your calls?

>>53705019
I'm giving it a pass because it's the 100th episode and isn't the norm. It will pass. At least it keeps the thread active and is 5e related like >>53705029 said.

>>53704764
>>53704790
man who can't read reveals his intelligence of 6
>ironically thinks rouges are hard to play lol

>>53704752
>assassinated 0 people
Surprise rules are a janky mess and Assassin is the worst Rogue.

>>53705040
oh, so you also understand how to use shield as a reaction. That's pretty advanced shit right there.
I apologize.

>>53705029
I agree with you there, I mean it's better the /pol/, giant ape druids, forcecage and druids are ghey memes. Not much better but at least it's not incoherent screaming.

How long to CR dies and I never have to hear about it again though?

>>53705063
Probably less than an hour and the stream will be over.

>>53705063
A while since this is rumoured to be the end arc and they are doing another campaign

>>53705062
...do you not know what eldritch knights are? it's a gish.

hey moron, next time you want to try and be the big mean internet tough guy, at least know what archetypes do

>>53704533
Pick a focal point of the chase.
Such as a chariot your party is riding. When the chariot moves, instead of moving it forward, move everything else backward the distance the chariot moves. Then you can do it on a regular grid.
This is for chases with combat by the way

>4 hours
>no vecna
>but a map had been revealed

unless they're going five hours, we're gonna get blue balled

>>53705040
>now you want to tell me why you're such a bitch? no one returning your calls?
Sorry I forgot to answer your question. I don't want to be a hypocrite.
To be honest, at first I thought you were just pretending to be retarded.
I only made one call today and that was to go get lunch. I had a pretty good sandwich. No complaints. Good thing the mechanics of how to eat a sandwich aren't as complicated as the rogue class or I might've been fucked.

>>53705080
This is probably the beginning of the end arc, which will be another handful of episodes.

>>53705063
Probably another hour or so before the show's done for tonight.

>>53704709
I dont really understand this, does a crit make the smite damage double?

>>53705109
i'm surprised you know what a sandwich is considering you don't know what an eldritch knight does

>>53705086
>doesn't even reaction shield meme
>thinks rogues are complex

I should've known.

>>53705116
Any dice rolled are doubled in my experience, except stuff like brutal critical.

>>53705127
Top tier bants. I concede to you.

>>53705011
Well...
Okay I'm going to sound like history's greatest monster if I just put this out there without some context for my decisions...

As a player, I never really had any character I felt needed multiclassing to feel "complete", except MAYBE an elven noble fighter I would've started as a Rogue solely for the Expertise in social skills.... but other players in the groups I was in would either multiclass like shit, or multiclass in ways that kinda hurt the party early on (one guy was going to go rogue, BUT FIRST he needs to start as a Fighter because he needs Second Wind and Action Surge so for two fucking levels we were without a competent rogue)....

And I've had bad experiences with a powergamer that I TRIED to keep in tab when I started my second campaign, but I still had to keep him in check and avoid him abusing some of the feats available....

So, my game's been a "no multiclassing, pick a class/role you think'll fit and play it" game where each character is only allowed one feat, so pick wisely.
Honestly, my players haven't really minded, as I made this clear when I was hunting for players.

But I guess that means my game might be one of the ones were CR balancing would work best.

(I do find the Berserker to be a little... underwhelming for CR2.. barely has more hit points than a bandit captain, lacks multiattack or good defense or anything other than reckless attack)