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What sort of rituals/practices/aprophisms would work well for a worshipper of Feronia.
I'm rolling one up and since there's a lack on info I want my character to get into the faith.

I think I made the elementals too strong

I've actually been really impressed with the quality level of the recent threads. Keep it up, guys.

>>53605120
>Burger Choices
Jolly orc chef, every time. Orcs know meat, for one thing, and I don't trust Abadar Corp not to squeeze Plasticine out of wall sconces and then sell it as burgers.

We really need to stop posting threads on page 7.

>>53605120
do we suppose what?

Why are tengus the undisputed swordmasters?

>>53605227

I think they meant support

>>53605191
Makes me wonder how big Absalom station really is if it has the ability to host native wild life or if you have to get the meat elsewhere. I kind of like the idea of Absalom being sort of like Ravnica in a way.

>>53605238
Because people don't realize that +2 Dex and Exotic Weapon Proficiency is the total opposite of having something special.

>>53605250
Do go on.

>>53605240
I'm willing to bet it'll host native life, definitely. if it's even a fraction of the size of a planet, the station will support some serious real estate that can be turned to ranches.

If it can't... well, get used to the taste of clone meat.

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The map is finally done. I wash my hands of this affair for good.

>>53605238
Because they can give up Swordtrained (which you'll never use as more than just a free EWP) and get 2 claws in addition to your bite, and Improved Unarmed Strike for free. This is relevant because Style feats good for using swords often require IUS for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

>>53605227
covfefe

>>53605280
It looks like a pokemon region!

>>53605278

But anon, meat just doesn't taste the same without a soul.

>>53605280
What did you need a region full of dickmountains for? What did I miss?

>>53605280
I wish I had your skills anon.

>>53605295
You and I played different versions growing up, friend.

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Alright, finally back with greentexts from my Reign of Winter game. It's been a while!

Our cast:

>Zaki, local orc who redeemed himself
>Nev, local tiefling girl and doctor
>Lazus, half-giant, friend of Nev
>Vahlgred, local half-orc who does half-orc things

>When we last left off, our party had just got done murdering some balls of light by a bridge
>Nev rescued one that was unconscious and knocked out
>However, they need to keep on going
>Find a game trail
>Follow it
>Encounter some snarky, asshole talking deer who hits on Vahlgred before bullshitting a lie about how he needed to go see some hot single that was in his area, but points the party to their next destination
>this next destination has a snowman in the way!
>Nev throws a snowball at it
>The snowman allahu-ackbars and explodes, alerting FIENDISH ICE ELEMENTALS IN THE RIVER TO THEIR POSITION
>the three Ice elementals arrive from the river, and form a super sentai posse, before engaging the team in combat
>the team nearly TPK's before some helpful DM FIAT keeps them alive
>They manage to make it out okay after obliterating two elementals, but one gets away!
>Maybe that deer wasn't so trustworthy after all...

>>53605191
>I've actually been really impressed with the quality level of the recent threads. Keep it up, guys.
I'm really surprised there wasn't more Vult shitposting

>>53605336
Why would there be? He never posts anymore

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Is Spheres of Might more kill than ever before if Ssalarn's been given more power over it?

>>53605331
>admitting to GM fiat saving a fight

Must have been rough. Surely you didn't panic as soon as the first person went down?

>>53605345
Like that wasn't him trying to rile things up last thread.

>>53605347
>Ssalarn
No question about it. He botched the veil-weavers so hard the entire thing can be summed in a couple of upgrades for the Aegis.

>>53605238
Because retards don't understand that Swordtrained isn't worth any more than a free EWP in practice.

>>53605285
So they become better with swords by giving up their proficency with all swords?

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>>53605351
I kind of did after knocking them into the negatives with a critical hit, and the rest were in a VERY precarious state

What I REALLY didn't expect was a player throwing a snowball at the snowman and proccing the trap. They were out of range of it luckily, but still, nothing in the AP was written about that. Ended up being funny (i.e you killed a good and caring snowman daddy, w/ the elementals popping up from the river being his kids).

>>53605345
He didn't leave, he just stopped putting his name on. Hell, we even kept getting greentexts.

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>>53605372

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>>53605336

>>53605280
Is this an edit? Or did you just make everything look like dicks and tits by accident?

>>53605417
>filename
Hmmmmmm this sure is a toughie

>>53605414
You know, when you act like someone making a joke is somehow shameworthy, you really come across like you have a stick up your ass that would make Gloriana blush

>>53605191
>I've actually been really impressed with the quality level of the recent threads

The constant Blingmaker shit is as bad as PLD

Whats the best way to start with PF now that the game is so old? How do you know what's outdated?

>>53605451

Blingmaker's a lot worse, yeah.

The players are awful self-shills with zero class. Not even Glorianaposting can keep up with their crap.

>>53605465

If you go by /pfg/ standards, everything is worthless except for fullcasters, avowed, spheres, and PoW.

So is there a game that combines the best parts of 3.5 and PF without the shit attached to them?

>Vult shilling his homebrew
Is his stuff even balanced?

>>53605240
>Makes me wonder how big Absalom station really is if it has the ability to host native wild life or if you have to get the meat elsewhere.

It's probably as big as Avistan, thereby forcing Garundi and Tien refugees to flee into the Not!Europe and brown it up.

Tell me /pgg/

Why do you think it is that birds fly?

>>53605491
Can't speak for birds, but drakes fly so they can silently ambush deer, or smol girls

>>53605481
Fantasy Craft

>>53605451
I more meant the fact that we're actually getting discussion now, rather than having nothing but lewds and arguments over what waifu is best.

>>53605442
I think Gloriana blushes at a lot of things!

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>>53605491
Because they're free from the shackles of soil.

>>53605505
Are you ignoring the Blingmaker and Ensoulment posts or what

>>53605491

Because they'd just look silly rollerskating.

I hope everyone had fun in SotJR!

>>53605403
Speaking of which, which styles are actually good with swords?

>>53605609
Scarlet Throne Style.

>>53605541
The fact that I can, in fact, ignore them means there's enough posts dealing with other things that I'm not wrong.

We're not getting rid of that bullshit, not for a long time, , but any other discussion going on is a step in the right direction. Raising the bar doesn't necessarily mean it's high, just that it's out of the mud.

>>53605598
All that FotJR and Dragon 1 posting yesterday and neither group had the decency to green-text afterwards.

SotJR, Dragon 2, you guys alright.

>>53605636

To be fair, people have been very vocal with their complaints when they did post before.

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>>53605417
No, this is what it looks like when I'm serious.

>>53605636
>slightest hint of what happened in FotJR
>Thread explodes into shitposting

I dread them actually greentexting

>>53605687
>no yawning chasm
>not even a continent dick
come on

>>53605689
If they aren't going to greentext then they shouldn't meme at all, it's just teasing!

>>53605687
>There isn't a thick patch near land's end on a big hill and a bunch of rivers pouring out of it

Wasted potential desu.

>>53605687
Yo I wanna sow my seed in those valleys!

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I'm gonna make a secret discord and none of you are invited.

>>53605718
But t-this is a blue board.

WHO IS READY FOR IRONFANG?

>>53605767
DHB. He's practically got a slam dunk victory there.

>>53605476
What is Glorianaposting?

>>53605732
I already did. It's been running for months.

>>53605861
PLD character, was everybody's favorite waifu for a couple months and then she fucked a dog.

>>53605896
PLD?

>>53605896
Goddammit Rory!

You think Starfinder will have legs or will it end up abandoned within a year?

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>>53605689
TOO BAD

FotJR GREENTEXT TIME NOW!
>Going down to the basement
>No one proactively opening doors
>Saboten telekinetically carrying the dead gobbo leader like a puppet.
>Rubio checks a door, hears a woman demanding "Do it rougher, you wretched beast! Rougher!" in a husky contralto.
>Twins get told to close their eyes because they are too fucking pure and are precious imoutos.
>Luckily, it's not some bitch taking the knot.
>Its some scantily clad witch telling a gnoll to grind some herbs
>Quinn has Vietnam flashbacks to her own experiences with a gnoll, hides behind the twins.
>Saboten tries and fails to smack a gnoll with the Goblin King.
>Rubio tries and fails to charge, tears off a chunk of Saboten's dress dress.
>Witch wants none of that shit, so now there are five witches in a slutty outfit.
>Etan fucking wrecks some face.
>As does based Tiefling bro with his gun.
>Twins and Quinn finish them with AoE attacks, ending the fivefold harlot brigade before it really started.
>Saboten wants to shibari the slutty sorceress.
>Instead GRABS HER FIRMLY BY THE PUSSY... cat familiar while Rubio puts her in manacles.
>Party continues.
>Sees ominous as fuck doors.
>Opens ominous as fuck doors.
>Saboten leads off this time, parading the goblin king corpse into the room while making a token effort to hide in the corner.
>Does an imitation of the goblin king that sounds less like a goblin, and more like her bedroom voice
>"Hello my fellow monstrous savages! I bring word from the boss lady, she wants you all to come outside and 'die like the rest'."
>Instead of waiting for the Gnolls to fall for this brilliant ploy and come to them, Rubio charges in.
>So does Etan.
>Right into a cloud of aphrodisiac vapors.
>Right as Saboten bungles an attack with the Gobbo king, cutting off Etan's belt.
>Right before Tiefling Bro makes a shot that somehow manages to blow the top off every woman in the room.
>Except for the twins, they're for pure, not lewd.

>>53605945
Pretty sure they said it's only going to get supplements every other month or something, so it probably won't be hard for them to just have a skeleton crew work on it for years.

>>53605481
Legend, FantasyCraft, 4E

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>>53605962
>Luckily, while she has been rendered topless, Quinn does not see the gnolls
>No flashbacks for her this time!
>Twins and Quinn move in and start to NUKE IT, DOT IT
>Then fucking YETH HOUNDS
>Yeth Hounds, hiding on the FUCKING CEILING
>#MorgaseWasRight2017
>BECAUSE NO ONE EVER FUCKING LOOKS UP, DO THEY?
>NOT EVEN THE PLAYER WHOSE CHARACTER DELIBERATELY WALKS ON THE CEILING TO ENHANCE HER SNEAKINESS
>Saboten identifies the Yeth Hounds as what they are.
>Also, she pimp slaps one with her tentacles.
>Etan goes to help people with the FUCKING YETH HOUND SHITS after his gnoll gets killed thanks to GLORIOUS GOBBO KING FLANKING BUDDY
>Rubio decides to 1v1 the gnoll.
>GLORIOUS GOBBO KING comes to help.
>Saboten even manages to not completely botch the impersonation this time.
>"Rubio, you have done enough here! Go help the others with the hounds. I SHALL BE HIS OPPONENT!"
>Gobbo King smacks a Gnoll.
>Rubio... actually leaves things for the Gobbo King to handle.
>As he should.
>Then FUCKING YETH HOUND SHITS start to howl.
>Half the party fails their will save, including half of the twins.
>Etan, Rubio, NPC buddy, and Tia fly into a panic
>Well, Tia is only frightened.
>Aster, Quinn, Saboten, and Tiefling Bro are left not panicking.
>TO BE CONTINUED...

>>53605977
Oh no

What have you done

>>53605974
>spoiler
If only there was a "spiritual successor" to 4E like PF.

>>53605977
>>53605962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3UXZo-ar5U
>Rubio: "Verse XXI: Heathens alone fear death..."

>>53605962
>>53605977


Ah yes. the Yeth hounds,

As it turns out Only the men were brave enough to withstand their harsh cries. The ladies of the party sprinted off screaming into different rooms.

Then we found the man with THE MOST AGILE DICK! IT WAS BOBBING AND WEAVING! IT TOOK A BULLET! IT WAS BULLET PROOF! IT BLASTED THE GUEST STAR ELF HALFWAY ACROSS THE ROOM!

>>53605977
>yeth hounds
So that's why RotJR DM recognized the mini in the other game, wondered what it was going to be for in theirs.

>>53606071
Etan, Rubio, do you want me to pull up the logs where you failed the Will Saves that Saboten, she who possesses the COVETED 5 WISDOM, managed to succeed? The ladies and based Tiefling Bro were the ones who succeeded, not you... dare I say... cravens~

(It's alright, it's scary~, but don't worry, Mommy Saboten will tuck you in next week and make sure you don't do anything stupid like pull a boss)

>>53606112

Broseph i'm mearly recounting what happened in SotJR naught an hour or so ago.

i'm just going to leave and plan my lewd not!fallout game okay

>>53606138
I somehow missed your name, Eagle. My bad. I thought it was Etan and/or Rubio trying to cope with the loss of hero cred, in a "Haha, it was the girls who ran and cried, not us, haha!"

>>53606191
>>53606138

It tickled me to death that only the women failed their will save against the Yeth hounds. Even M. Night Shalelu failed her save.

Also completely not kidding about that spoiler.

Was Ironfang announced

>>53606235
I think it only just closed, and I wouldn't expect anything until tomorrow morning at the earliest.

>>53605977
>>53606071
A literal rape dungeon in FotJR and SotJR. Can we admit that these games have jumped the shark already?

>>53606280
Oh, without a doubt.

Still enjoying it, though

>>53606143
How would that even go?

>>53606325
You ever use the Sexout mod?

Kinda like that, I imagine.

>>53606325
Monstergirls and boys, muzzleloading guns, and psionics, that's how

>>53606280
Who do you think got the aphrodisiac vapors in SotJR? Casimir and Valeria or Onryou and Seht?

>>53606280

That's the kind of thing you expect to find when your assaulting a ruin infested with a Lamastan cult and goblinoids. Also is it jumping the shark when everyone is on board?


Besides. no one ACTUALLY got raped. The guy went down like a sack of wet flour. especially after pulling off a stunning fist. (First one baby. and it felt awesome.)


Interestingly enough this

>>53606339
I hate you.

Not because you're running an erp game, that's cool. I hate you for trying to fit this into the Pathfinder ruleset.

>>53606345
Yeah, /mlp/ has a way better Fallout ruleset that would fit.

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>>53605962
What the fuck kind of "lol so randumb! xDDDDD" rules for crits and fumbles are these?

>>53606345
Seconding. Why do I have this feeling it's going to be a Bethesda-tier interpretation of what Fallout is about?

>>53606345
>>53606366

I mean, it's fallout in-name-only. About the only thing it has in common is the fact that it's... a weird post-apocalyptic romp through a weirder wasteland. You can make anything work if you just bend and tweak the rules enough and use a lot of GM handwaving and smoke and mirrors. I just used Fallout because it was the first thing on my mind.

>>53606352
Oh, yeah, that

I used to play using that system. First character was an explosives-focused pony that drank a ton of whiskey. He was pretty damn fun

>>53606375
Nice. I made a Shotgun focused Diamond Dog jerk. She'd capture baddies to beat and berate them as she sold them for her bounties.

>>53606357
We agreed that lewd things happen on a Nat 1, and Sweet rolled 3 Nat 1s to "confirm" the severity of things. If this wasn't blatant H-Game silliness, none of us would have agreed... but we literally all came in recognizing that it would be H-Game silliness.

>>53606341
Corwin and Val.

>[23:22] == Valeriya has changed nick to The_Vilderavn

>>53606424
I played and GM'd a few campaigns using that system, but after souring on the whole MLP thing I kinda abandoned it. Still wanna revisit it and see if I can port my old characters from it to Pathfinder

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>>53606425
>archers and TWF guys roll more d20s
>save-or-lose casters seldom roll d20s

So archers and TWF guys are the lewdest of them all, and save-or-lose casters are the least lewd?

>>53606458
Yep! At least in terms of accidental lewdness.

>>53606458
Actually, the most lewd is gonna be probably the INT-based Archer or TWFing guy who invests in a lot of frequently rolled skills (Perception, for one).

SHITSEEKER

STARSHITTER

WHAT DO THEY HAVE IN COMMON

BOTH SHIT

>>53606442
I knew that slut was a freak!

>>53606446
I got a friend working on a nice, online friendly system that you can use for it. Keep an eye out for Fallout threads and I'll post it there when he's done.

Even though you soured on the fandom, which I can understand, I'd say give the game groups another shot. Many of them have helped me find Pathfinder and other game groups.

>>53606488
Why shitseeker instead of shitfinder anyway? Never got it.

>>53606506

I'll think on it, is there a Fallout general or something I could trawl through for it? I want to branch out

Doing a Harbinger//Mageknight gestalt. Seriously considering ditching Mageknight after 4th level to grab Unspeakable Pact Thamaturge, since being able to slap a big penalty onto enemy saves seems extremely powerful.

Is better casting and invocations likely to outweigh the lost BAB?

So I was thinking about my Journey to the West character as an Alchemist/Sorcerer ancient CE Kitsune. What I realized is I can get my
Dominate Person DC to 36. I think that's just enough to be a bitter angry forest spirit wanting to destroy society.

>>53606557
You're a harbinger with half INT to hit.
What do you even need BAB for?
Are you full attacking or something?

>>53606545
Not one on /mlp/ or /tg/, at least not for a while. They do pop up occasionally, and it's probably for the best we leave it here. Look for the Femto thread and you might get linked when one pops up.

>>53606575
Yeah, that was my thinking too.

>>53606557
Be a Harbinger/Instructor Wizard gestalt instead.

>>53606580
I'll look for it, thanks man. For now I think i'd better crash

>>53606601
My GM's lenient, not retarded.

DHB is building a JttW character right? What has he proposed? Anyone know what he's building?

>>53606619
Fine. Harbinger/Aegis then. You get all the fun of full BAB with extra utility from Aegis.

>>53606658
If your game will never see level 10 then it's better to go Aegis 3/Harbinger X with Student of the Astral Suit.
If it will see 10 then you might want to put Aegis on the other gestalt track so you can get your INT to damage.

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Might as well post Saturday then

>Our story of the lower areas of Thistletop start with a philosophical question. "Why are they called dungeons when 9 times out of 10 there are no prisoners? "
>Discussions into etymology and such like are interrupted by discovering a Shrine to Lamastu! With Two Gnolls devouring a corpse.
>Onryou, finally catching her stride, decides to give them what for. with all others following suit.
>The Gnolls are wearing some kind of perfume or magic that makes it really hard concentrate on defense and not the opposite sex. Val and Corwin fall victim to these cruel machinations!
>Though the fight is quickly going in our heroes favor when twin howls pierce the air! YETH HOUNDS
>All four of the women, Shalelu included, sprint screaming out of the temple and hide in different rooms.
>Things are looking bad. When THE MAN WITH THE MOST AGILE DICK APPEARS.
>A bugbear, clearly upset that his goblin orgy was interrupted, Points at Onryou claiming that she's ruined his fun and she's going to have to Apologize. Intimately.
>Still reeling from fear, she decides to drink some liquid courage, A potion of Mage armor.
>Aranha tries to end any Non-Con before it can start by shooting the dick.
>He deflects the bullet.
>Things are looking bad, Shalelu apparently has a history with this guy and he declares her first, bullrushing Shelelu into a wall.
>Biggest mistake of his life. Onryou unleashes erry thing, He resists a hail of blows empowered by both Ki and Stamina. Except one... One that had a Stunning blow attached to it.
>The guy goes stiff as a board, and easy to finish off. Him and his harem of makeup covered gobbos.
>The fight wraps up soon after, But where is Val?
>Corwin rushes to The torture chamber where she hid, but all there is, is mist and a voice.
> "Your friend is not here."
> THE CROW FIEND APPEARS! THE VILDERAVN'S VILLANOUS SCHEMES COME TO LIGHT!!

Oh good lord the greentexts embargo is over everyone run for your life

Speaking of Greentexts and DHB, how is LoBaF going?

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>>53605962
>>53605977
That was not an invitation, you know. It was in fact the opposite of an invitation. Also you missed the part where a someone screamed for their mother.

>>53606425
Imma be perfectly honest here and say I vastly underestimated it.

How was Mighty Quest by the way. Last session sounded cool, did they find the freefolk?

>>53606806
Good.
But you know how /pfg/ is--say anything's going fine, and the thread decides that not only is the opposite true, but someone must have been raped.

>>53606854
Tell me how cute is Essa?

>>53606861
Ask DHB your own damn self.

>>53606870
He's too much of an autistic to judge himself.

>>53606721

Sounds quite silly, save for some serious developments in the wind. Thank you for sharing.

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So we don't know the exact situation with the magic in Starfinder other than it's not tethered to the whole arcane/Divine split we've had to deal with before.

However that's not important. Necromancy is obviously a thing but what about transmutation? I grow fond of the idea of meeting a group that takes personal modification and perfection to it's upmost limit until they look like the sort of monstrosities only the Dark Eldar Kabal could call kin.

>>53606940

Equal parts, scary, serious, and silly. A man once said. "You can maim, rape, and murder as much as you want in a story. but for the love of god tell a joke. "

Honorable mentions so far include Corwin killing a yeth hound so hard it turned a page in Ameiko's room to an old childhood drawing of the two playing.

>>53606962
It's what most of us imagine Lamashtu to be doing. For lots of folks here, deities that don't make it to Starfinder will wind up CEO or equivalent of organizations. Lamashtu and Lolth are highly likely to be running Umbrella or Unitology churches involved in that.

It'll probably be one of my early campaigns to get everyone into Starfinder

>>53604233

Honestly most of my builds are thought up on a whim and I just do my best to accommodate my crazy ideas as much as possible while still being somewhat viable. The idea I had floating around in my head at the beginning was to be some kind of Fairy Paladin that would zip around the enemy's face while dealing heavy amounts of damage through the holy power of Smite.

Another alternative to my conundrum now that this fact has been brought to my attention: Mythic Reduce Person can lower your size by two stages, so my question is that when the time comes that our characters start getting Mythic ranks, would that make the Permanency Reduce Person present on my body go Mythic and lower it twice? Because if so that's potentially hilarious.

>>53602742
I apologise for the late reply - I went to sleep while waiting.
>The opening line legitimately grabbed me.... and then promptly lost me, when the second lines was redundant. The rest never grabbed me because there's very little meat to it. I think the concept has potential, the idea that heroism isn't in the act, so much as in the telling, is a neat angle that no one else took. But, I came out of this app knowing basically nothing about the character. You honestly devote wayyyy more time talking about the snake than her... you spend as much time talking about her parent's fears, as you do talking about her.
>My suggestion would be to figure out *who* this character is, and then write a backstory which reveals that character to us.
Thank you for pointing that out. I have to think on it.


>Also, can't say I'm a huge fan of stripping away pretty cool racial fluff, presumably, just for the power bump.
Samsaran was the only race my mechanical idea worked with. I ended up settling on it after exploring options for several hours. I don't really like Samsarans thematically, though.

>>53606962
It technically still is arcane/divine, but its not a limit for player characters as much. Unless you play an older class from pathfinder.

But your source of magic as a mystic or technomancer can be whatever you roleplay it as.

So the schools of magic will still be around, they just wont be calling spells from gods divine, and spells from knowledge arcane. They are just together or apart, if you catch the drift

>>53606970
of her playing with the hound?

talk about rubbing it in.

>>53607033

You're a witty cunt i'll give ya that.

>>53607033
If by playing with, you mean vigorously shagging, then yes.

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>>53606998

I've noticed this seems to be a thing, a lot of god(esses) and demi gods get reduced to super beings essentially and have a leg up in terms of cults and profit. Not that I mind or anything but I find it interesting that the GAP or whatever caused it essentially heeled their original power. That said, looking into the pathfinder wiki looks like we have a buffet of various cults and businesses to deal with

>>53607031
I see, thank you for the correction.

Hi.

I'm here to apologize to the Oath of Eternity maneuver. I've called it a shit maneuver compared to the other 9ths, but I was wrong.

I now know that I was wrong because I saw what happens when an 18th level Harbinger initiates it.

Oath of Eternity is OP, please nerf.

What level do you prefer to build stock sheets at?

>>53607020
Speaking of this build, my character would also be interested in wielding that really important sword that gives crazy bonuses if you're a paladin or a cleric, say I started out as a Small creature, is there any way I can reduce the penalties for wielding a weapon above my size category while also being able to use Dex to hit instead of Str? I've been told we're at level 4 so costs will be less of an issue than if we were stuck at 3.

>>53607199
I prefer level 3 minimum, though planning for 6th is often as far as I go for more than just quick notes.

>>53607221
http://archivesofnethys.com/MagicWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Resizing

http://archivesofnethys.com/SpellDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Resize%20Item

http://archivesofnethys.com/MagicRingsDisplay.aspx?FinalName=Ring%20of%20Perfect%20Sizing

>>53607240
All of these would be perfect if it wasn't a specific magical sword that had a soul inside it already, I don't think I can apply any further enchantments to it because it's so special. I may just have my character be duty bound to find the weapon and be carrying an Effortless Lace to use with it to wield it.

>Come up with a concept I really like for JttW
>Can't make time slot
ffffff

>>53607275
One is a spell and the other is a separate item.

>>53607281
Tell us about it. someone else might get inspired and use your concept for their app so you can live vicariously through them.

>>53607324
Dervish Dancer with mithral current, dual wields fighting fans. I haven't thought about the other half of the gestalt or much in the way of backstory of personality, but I really like the idea of describing their movements in combat, "sheathing" by folding and tucking the fans and spreading them to block attacks directed at their allies, dancing through combat.

Had my Thursdays open two weeks ago and now I'm kicking myself over recently closing them aaaaaa

>>53607298
Still, the Lace seems like the best idea right now and is the cheapest option to boot.

With that being said, I think I've got the foundation of my build planned out, so all of you tell me if there's any holes that need patching before I actually put it all together:

I start with a Small creature that has been permanency Reduce person'd to be Tiny, he'll have combat expertise automatically due to the Elephant in the Room feat tax fiat and will have to take Lunge in order to not have to move into people's squares, and combining both of those together will mean he can hit from 5 ft away with just a -2 to hit, which will lower over time as Combat Expertise gets better.

Combine this with a story-specific weapon that, when wielded by a Paladin, gives a bunch of crazy bonuses, helps with the lowered to-hit (also helps is the natural bonuses to hit when you're that size), and if I install Effortless Lace onto the weapon it can be wielded in such a way that I can use Dex to hit (and then take the feat to get Dex to Damage as well)

This is because Reduce Person retroactively shrinks any items you hold on your person, which would make the sword a size Small when I'm Tiny, but the Lace would make it as if it were one size smaller for the purpose of things like being a Light weapon.

Being Level 4 as well, I can afford both of these things (the shrinking as well as the Lace) with 1K to spare for other things, which I'll use to get Masterwork armor, a MW shield, and maybe a few potions.

>>53607389
>This is because Reduce Person retroactively shrinks any items you hold on your person
No it doesn't, but if you can convince your DM it does more power to ya.

>>53607427
As far as I can remember this is how we've played it if only because it says by RAW that anything being wielded, worn or carried by the spell reduces in size as well, which one can interpret as meaning that the effect stays even if the wielding is happening after the spell is cast.

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>>53605120
Where are the lewd Mecgirl drawings?

>Calistria's domains include lust and the torture inquisition
>her favored weapon is a whip
l-lewd

>>53607540
This is not new info.

>>53607540
Calistria is Golarion's deity of lewds desu

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>>53607520

Some of them were in the last thread but thats the first thread I recall seeing them show up. We had a productive thread on character ideas until one shitlore ruined it with his concern about feminist supremecy or some shit like that.

I just want to see more character ideas for Starfinder of the likes of Hellknight bro and meat in armor guy or brain in a jar.

>>53607603
I'm new though, I'm reading about the deities.

I'm making a neutral good cleric and just seeing who looks cool to follow.

I like Sarenrae the most I think.

holy shit I just read Calistria's act that you do for her favor. what da fugg

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What is this shit? Does DSP not understand what taking 10 is? Are they too retarded to read any part of Pathfinder rules? 8 ranks and a feat just so I can take 10 on one skill (already can) without increasing the time needed (already how taking 10 works, fagatrons), or being distracted?

>>53607681
It's actually very useful for counters and some other skill check dependent maneuvers in combat. For example, if you use Arcane Shield to negate attacks, getting a certain 10 on your roll instead of rolling can save your ass.

>have more than a +20 mod for Sleight of Hand

what can I do to abuse this in and out of combat?

>>53607701
I guess that's fair, but it still seems pretty fucking niche for the requirements.

>>53607673
>le edgy 4channer
I think new people having moments like this is cute, don't be so edgy anon. We all started sometime

>>53607719
It's solid enough. I've taken it myself on several characters who had loads of skill check using maneuvers. It saved my ass multiple times.

Especially since it applies to ALL discipline skills, not just one of your choice.

>>53607704
steal people's magic rings and, and other stuff that they aren't actively using.

>>53607704
Steal bras without anyone noticing.

>>53607739
Oh neat.

>>53607719
There's basically NO requirement except being level 8, really.

You'd never take this without wanting to use the skill, but if you do take it it means you're now taking 10 on shit like tempest gale moves.

>>53607681
Do you not understand what taking 10 is?

>>53605962
I can never remember the FotJRs, someone give me a rundown of them and the associated memes.

Would Path of War mechanics work better in Starfinder with its removal of iterative attacks?

>>53608231
Weeaboo fightan magic in spess is what everyone's hyped about.

I'm staying up tonight for Korea time. Keep me company while memes are asleep. Post confessions.

I intentionally change my writing style in threads to dissociate myself from any identity.

>>53608381
I join arguments in the thread and then argue on both sides.

>>53605120
Playing kingmaker, how shitty is it of me to plot with the GM to take absolute control of the kingdom and ascend to lichdom over the course of 1-17?

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Here is Psionics Augmented: Powers. It is nothing more than a collection of powers for all of Dreamscarred Press's psionic classes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tztx29jjjt0z3g6/DRP2340_FULL_%2811610410%29.pdf?dl=0

Most of the powers here as mediocre, as far as I can tell. Three powers, however, stand out to me:

• Dirt nap (cryptic 2, psion/wilder 2) is a second-rate, psionic version of rope trick. It is far more uncomfortable and tightly-packed than a rope trick, but it gets the job done.

• Mind palace (cryptic 1, psion/wilder 1, vitalist 1) lets you spend 1 power point to gain a +1d4 untyped bonus to an "attack roll, saving throw, skill check, ability check, manifester level check or similar check" as an immediate action. This is a very good deal! The problem here is that it is ambiguous on whether or not it can be used after a roll, due to the nature of immediate actions as interrupts. If it cannot be used after a roll, then it is obviously much worse.

• Wardrobe malfunction (psion [kineticist] 2, psychic warrior 2) is a truly awful debuff power, but it has a secondary effect. If you target an article of clothing, the wearer must make a Reflex saving throw, or the article slips off them. This is good for embarrassing people, at the very least.

>>53608495
Is this a new playtest somewhere, or what?

>>53608494
If the DM is cool with it then it may be a fun subplot for the other players to take you down at the end.

>>53608494
Taking control of the campaign out of the entire party's hands, and not even through your own merits, but through nepotism.

That's about the shittiest thing you can do. You're basically turning the entire campaign into "lel I troll you." Either call it off or abandon your campaign.

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>>53608529

This is the full product.

Recruiting:
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78224/chronicles-of-the-golden-chalice
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78606/hells-saboteurs
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77329/something-wicked-comes-this-way
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78876/depths-of-darkess-a-pathfinder-adventure

>>53608539
Isn't the point of the game cooperative storytelling? Unless the DM is shitty, it just means OP becomes a BBEG

>>53608531
>>53608539
It's not going to be "heh, i win" i'm thinking more of a 'slowly controlling aspects of the city' thing. not subtle stuff, but making the evil i'm doing secretly look less interesting than other hooks while dodging the paladin, then final story arc to wrap it up. i'm fully prepared to lose the character, and it would make for a better story if i was defeated, rather than 'i win, new campaign hey where are you all going'

>>53608562
Key point here is that the motherfucker said
>plot with the GM to take absolute control of the kingdom
That essentially means that, in the context of Kingmaker, you're cucking every other PC out of necessary resources that they are expected to have access to while monopolizing them all for yourself. Moreover, it implies the GM will be complicit in making this happen. It isn't "cooperative storytelling" when, say, one PC gets control of all the other PCs' equipment and spells and powers just because the GM allowed him to.

Cooperative storytelling would be if the anon was slowly hatching a plot to take over the kingdom on his own merits, gradually laying the groundwork for a takeover and only telling the GM his end goal as a matter of honesty. Becoming a lich is fine. Taking over the kingdom is fine. Plotting with the GM to do something you want to keep secret is fine.

But when you take all of those together, it becomes a situation where you're essentially hijacking and then torching the campaign just because it's your fetish. The anon you're talking about isn't going to simply become the BBEG, he's planning to actively hamstring the rest of the party while doing so through unfair means. That's the sort of thing that should, by all rights, make you (and your GM) persona non grata in any gaming community.

>>53608625
If you need to try this hard to rationalize your decision, you're doing it wrong and should abandon your plan.

The end result you're building towards is still the same--you take control of something the party is supposed to control communally all for yourself, and then turn it against the other PCs.

>>53608636
From the original post, I would think you are reading a bit much into it. But yeah, I can see all the red flags from OP's 2nd post.

https://strawpoll.com/wd25rrf
YOU KNOW WHAT TIME THIS IS

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>>53605120
Be honest /pgg/ How far have you ever gotten in a campaign before you got stuck on the boat. How many sessions/How many levels have you ever advanced?

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I need to kill every single hobgoblin on Golarion. What's a good way to get started on committing mass genocide while not being a caster? If the plan takes more than 50 years I'll need a way to get immortality as a martial too.

My goal is to kill all of goblinkind before Starfinder comes out, just starting with hobgobs. I have my reasons. I'm starting small for now, trying to find ways to disrupt the logistics of their armies and working on figuring out how to effectively assassinate their leaders. But I'll need to go bigger eventually.

>>53608670
Please nobody vote for Jun Fan, he was just something I wanted to put out and try my hand at writing, and he's not really even that good.

>>53607719
Are you a Tempest Gale, Scarlet Throne, or Sleeping Goddess user?
Then FUCK is that a good deal to take. Never ever fail or miss on your maneuvers that need those skills again.

>>53608695
I ran a game for 15 years, and they advanced from 1st to 31st over the course of three revisions of the game.

Spelljammers FTW.

>>53608737
"Oh, PoW isn't overpowered AT ALL, no way, don't worry!"

Way to fucking make a hypocrite out of everyone who encouraged PoW.

>>53608670
And on another game: https://strawpoll.com/ar5yrf8
VOTE OR BE FORGOTTEN BY HISTORY

>>53608705
Become fantasy Hitler, lead your nation to implementing the Final Solution.

>>53608737
>>53607719
>>53607739
I thought DSP stuff was supposed to be "balanced" and "fair", you guys. Looks to me like they're breaking the system worse than Paizo did, and that's saying some shit.

>>53607849
>Aster and Tia: Tian lolis that follow around Quinn because she saved their lives before, and are now in her debt. Share a pet jelly-bunny. Ethumion Avowed (Betrothed).
>Sweettooth: A guardsmen for Sandpoint, surprisingly-small and lithe as well as unlearned in the ways of the world. Tiefling Gunslinger.
>Saboten: A former priestess of Calistra that has taken up residence in Sandpoint. Well-versed in the finer things in life. Elf Pactmaker.
>Quinn: A blind traveler who is destined to become queen of the dead. Surprisingly quite snarky. Human Soul Weaver.
>Etan: A totally normal glassmaker who has nothing special or weird going on about him. Kitsune Magus (Bladebound).
>Rubio: A second-generation immigrant from Cheliax who wants to become a hero, just like his grandpappy told him about. A bit of a show-off. Human Warlord.

>>53608695
from level 2 to 12 in a PF campaign for over a year before DM put it on hiatus and never came back to it.

I think that level range is the sweet spot for PF anyways, when levels get too high the game seems to get bloated. But maybe it's because I've never had a PC that high before so idk

>>53608495
Wow, there's really nothing interesting in here besides what you mentioned.

It's a pdf full of boring or overly situational options.

>>53608792
>All those subtly wrong details

What an amazingly targeted bait post.

>>53608756
>>53608790
One, you're samefagging. Two, most maneuvers don't actually have you making skill checks; indeed, the grand majority of maneuvers have you making normal attack rolls, like usual. And three, there's still better feats to take than that one in most cases; few builds actually benefit from absolutely needing to be reliable on skill checks, and those that are can easily be shut down by damage to ability scores or by simply denying those skills in the first place (can't use Sense Motive against animals by RAW, for instance, nor can you use Sleight Of Hand if the opponent has too good of a Perception.)

>>53608819
Huh, I'm wrong? That's actually a genuine mistake I'm making then, I just tried to remember as best as I could. My sincere apologies; can you tell me what I got wrong then?

>>53608831
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PQWsyvHwa5mjUGqzSSkq-k2W4QHQ4J44O380sVpqKzM/pub

>>53608756
>>53608790
>taking 10 is overpowered and breaks the game
gr8 b8 m8

>>53608860
I'm more concerned by the "never fail an attack or skill check concerning your maneuvers." Why play anything other than an initiator?

>>53608860

Removing the necessity to roll does break the game. That with rising zenith strike is retarded.

>>53608875
>never fail an attack
Uh, no. Only a minority of attacks available to initiators can be affected by that.
>Why play anything other than an initiator?
Because they get other cool toys.
>>53608888
>Removing the necessity to roll does break the game.
Not really. It just gives you reliable options you can use in a pinch, which is great.

>>53608895

"Always get a 10 on your maneuver that does 2x or 3x damage"

"Always get a 10 on your counter that replaces saving throws with craft ranks"

>>53608855
I could stand seeing this for more games.

>>53608913
So? I don't see the problem.
Casters get to target touch with many spells as a similar toy, which is 95% hit chance against the vast majority of enemies.
The difference between 95% and 100% is laughably low.

>>53608916
Same, I wish I knew how to make things like that.

>>53608925
To hits, especially for casters, even against touch, is a much worse bet than skill bonuses. A caster is only getting the 95% chance against big enemies and at high levels of they invest in it. Skills scale with smaller opportunity cost.

>>53608944
Even then, that 10 won't always ensure you hit. The enemy can have buffs bringing AC to higher than you hit on a 10. The enemy can have mirror image making you still miss. The enemy can have blink making you still miss. Etc, etc, etc.
A relatively reliable hit is just that - relatively reliable. Making a fuss out of it is silly.

>>53608895
>no really, this terribly game breaking third party system mechanic is fine
See, this is why people didn't allow DSP crap in the first place, because they have a history of giving you feats specifically designed to make their classes entirely overpowered. Pre-nerfed Dread for example. And here we go with more feats that give DSP classes game breaking abilities that make casters seem underpowered in comparison.

>>53608959
Skills scale much better than spell DCs. The against to hit is much less of an issue than save replacement. Counters in general in their design don't play well with anything that isn't PoW. They completely change expectations of the level of defense PCs have.

>>53608959

A 10 on sense motive with a character focusing in it will hit 100% of the time

>>53608972
Counters require immediate actions, while initiators tend to be pretty swift-starved as is. Most of the time, the initiator either won't have the immediate action available or, if it is available, will be screwed by using it.
Moreover, no-save spells and shit exists.

>>53608795
>Tfw worried I might have been in the same campaign as you
Jon?

>>53608959
>basically if it isn't a caster, you win
>that's not broken at all
So initiators and casters now invalidate anything that isn't a caster or initiator. GJ.

>>53608984
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. No really do you not actually play and just parrot arguments you see on pfg?

>>53608990
Casters already invalidated everything that isn't a caster. Another group of characters being able to compete with them isn't a bad thing.
>>53608993
I both played and ran PoW games.

>>53608984
No save spells are all ranged touch attacks.

>>53608984
Except immediate actions use your NEXT swift action.

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So people are always playing catgirls and kitsune waifs.

So why bird tengu?

>>53608998
Except initiators don't compete with casters. They compete with anything that isn't a caster. You do see the issue here I hope.

>>53609004
....I absolutely shudder at anyone whose thighs are thicker than her entire torso.

>>53609003
>Except immediate actions use your NEXT swift action.
Yes, and?
Most of the time, you're fighting more than one enemy. You counter one, another hits you.
IME, the usual situation is that there are many more enemies than players.

>No save spells are all ranged touch attacks.
Not really. There are some no-save spells which aren't even that. Maze or Solid Fog come to mind as quick examples.

>>53609010
That is a blatantly false assertion. Initiators are, by design, a replacement/upgrade for anything that isn't a caster that is supposed to be competitive with casters.

>>53609025
So it's okay to remove the dice rolling mechanics for initiators?

That's bad game design, anon. Even WotC didn't follow up with that route.

>>53609036
>So it's okay to remove the dice rolling mechanics for initiators?
I don't see any major problems with that.

>Even WotC didn't follow up with that route.
They did, sort of, not in 3.x, though.
In 4e, it's easy to get so many rerolls you average less than one miss per workday. Heck, I had such a character.

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>PoW is balanced because martials are underpowered in comparison to spell casters so we created a system that vastly increases the damage of martials to keep them on the same level as spell casters
>All encounters are decimated within a couple rounds at best thanks to 5d6+20 Primal Broken bullshit
>Spells per day replaced with "you get these every encounter period, stuff still not dead? Make an attack to get it all back and give all allies more damage
>Nobody would ever use a system that involves a caster rebalancing because everyone likes bigger numbers that do more things

Inb4 Spheres
>Further emphasizes minmaxing by focusing into limited spheres to create fucktastic damage/abilities early on
>Lol spellcrafting
>No game ever reaches the point where the supposed "balancing" actually matters

>>53609053
>>All encounters are decimated within a couple rounds at best thanks to 5d6+20 Primal Broken bullshit
Just like optimised spellcasters can end encounters in one turn.
/shrug

>>53609050
Then you should stop playing any games and just admit you want to play pretend without any dice.

>>53609072
Name how this theoretical level 5 spell faster is going to end the encounter round 1 against 3 enemies, one of them is a mindless undead.

>>53609080
Glitterdust.

>>53609072
Except that really doesn't happen in PF anon. That happens only in white room theory nonsense that isn't a game. There are still variables to account for.

This new little trick removes variables entirely. All you need is a maxed skill, as couple of feats to optimize it, and you never need to roll dice for counters or huge damage ever again. If your super initiator can't hit it by taking ten, then it will kill everyone in the party anyways.

>>53609080
Thanatopic metamagic, Colorspray with patterns mystery. I'm not even that guy

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I didn't analyze this fully yet, but anything good in it?
I love the recent jump into Prestige Classes

>>53609073
Why? I want to have a combat full of meaningful choices and tactics, not random BS.

>>53609080
Depends on the spellcaster's build. Glitterdust is a good choice in the situation you described. Many encounters are ended by a single casting of stinking cloud. By level 10, fireball-optimised sorcerers can average CR 15 median HP worth of damage (after accounting for save frequency) on their nova turn, which is quite encounter-ending.

>>53609085
Undead cannot be blinded, and you get a save every round even if you do get blinded.

Try again.

>>53609100
They have 5HD, which they should at that level. Theyre at worst stunned for one round.

>>53609085
Ok, their blind at worst, the encounter hasn't ended.

>>53609107
>Undead cannot be blinded
What edition are you playing? Undead don't have immunity to blindness in PF.

>and you get a save every round even if you do get blinded.
Your BSF will usually mop up the mess by then.

>>53609072
Can an optimized spellcaster solo a Tarrasque at level 12. I'm legitimately curious because I've seen a Ranger do it with PoW.

I'll even let you play with Mythic, but no more than a couple tiers at best.

>>53609103
>meaningful choices and tactics
>remove dice rolls entirely
Sorry, you just made yourself sound like a moron

Especially with your 'white room theorycraft sorcerer' fallacy.
.

>>53609118
If you need the BFS to mop them up it literally is not the caster ending the encounter.

>>53609120
>Can an optimized spellcaster solo a Tarrasque at level 12.
Yes. Check out the Cathy build on the below link.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kac7&page=17?The-DPR-Olympics-or-Im-not-the-mechanic-here#809

>>53609116
That's where Patterns mystery comes in to play

Each creature affected by your illusion (pattern) spells is treated as if its total number of Hit Dice were equal to its number of Hit Dice minus your Charisma modifier (if positive).

>>53609103
A sorcerer does not manage that much damage unless his entire build is focused around just that fireball. And I said level 5, not 10. Plus he would need a ducking quicker rod which is retard expensive.

>>53609124
Random doesn't equal choice or tactics.
If you think it does, you're fucking retarded.
>>53609126
That's a pretty silly way to view it.
Real combat is over, the only thing left is just to finish off enemies who can't resist - that's what I consider an encounter that already ended.

>>53609138
It's possible without a rod of quicken, as far as I remember.
Unlike Cathy, which I linked above, I don't have a link to the exact build at hand, unfortunately,

>>53609085
>good will save enemies will always fail against glitter dust every single round
Uh huh.

>>53609130
>Uses Words of Power
Kinda defeats the purpose of the question...

>>53609132
Your argument is you have to be you need to be a specific ability set chosen at level 1 of a specific class? That's a fucking weak argument. What about literally anyone who isn't a Heavens Oracle?

>>53609150
WoP is a 1pp spellcasting subsystem.

>>53609140
The enemies are blind, not dead. You can't be this fucking stupid. There are enemies who can fight just as well while blinded. They get saves every round to stop being blinded. Find a better argument.

>>53609147
I don't believe you until you produce the build.

>>53609132
>let's just ignore their good will saves
See, the real failing of this example is that the caster still has to deal with variables.

The initiator does not. He automatically hits and does double and triple damage. End of fight.

>>53609140
It's basic strategy to take an ability you CANNOT FAIL to win every encounter without rolling.

That you even suggest that it's a choice and not a must have says much more about who is retarded.

Well, that's that. DSP PoW has officially made my list of unacceptable 3rd party splats. I already had to go over Psionics to make sure they weren't breaking the game, and now three feats makes initiators unstoppable? Game over, they lose.

>>53609101
It's much like the rest of the game: Some interesting and really neat and good stuff, but the rest should be ignored forcefully if needed.

>>53609140
Remember: the GM may use anything he players have access to against them.

That makes this ability a TPK. If you cannot see that you are an imbecile.

>>53608495
Ablative Armor is pretty strong. Can easily help you push to 95% avoidance on attacks, which makes it last a long time.

Bore is a neat tool for scouting/spying with a pretty cheap cost.

Ectoplasmic Obelisk is generally impractical (though you could probably come up with a few creative uses for it), but the 10 pp augment to build permanent statues is a fun downtime tool you can train out when you go on another adventure, if it's really critical you have another 2nd level power.

Dirt Nap is useful, as you noted.

Energy Rings is pretty strong. There's no save to avoid being immobilized, and the typical methods of escape involve a really difficult strength check or teleportation (which can be shut down pretty easily).

Mind Palace is an untyped ~2.5 + 2.5/2pp bonus to virtually any important d20 roll as an immediate action. Includes saves, skills, ability checks, and ML checks. It unambiguously does not work retroactively, it benefits your NEXT check. It's still useful though, since it lets you push otherwise difficult to boost checks. Ability checks in particular are a fun target, you can use that to push break checks really high and smash some huge shit even as a weenie. You can use it to make (Greater) Dispel checks nearly auto-succeed, which while expensive can negate serious problem effects or give you an action advantage by negating several turns of action with one round.

Retarget Power can be used to get Personal range powers onto other targets. Kind've expensive for the job, unless you're a Cryptic, but that's a rare option.

There's a lot of chaff there, like any Pathfinder book, but the number of solid or at least interesting options is pretty decent.

>>53608495
Energy allergy might be crazy if picked by a gambler through Expanded Knowledge.

Retarget power's level for noncryptics is stupid. Psion and Vitalist are just going to take Expanded knowledge at 11 if they want the power instead of waiting 4 more levels and paying more power points each time.

>>53609159
>I don't believe you until you produce the build.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2mhpi&page=8?The-DPR-Summer-Olympics-or-What-are-we#364
Found it after some digging.

>>53609212
>Boo hoo martials shouldn't be able to deal with all situations competently

>>53609306
Psions and vitalists don't have THAT many extra feats, anon. And vitalists especially don't want to spend feats to get powers already on their list, since they can prepare whichever powers from their list they happen to need that day.

>>53609317
They shouldn't no character should. That's why I ban full casters too desu.

>>53609322
So, I guess you'll end up banning Hunter, Inquisitor, Bard, Skald, and maybe Magus and Warpriest just to be safe as well too?
Go play another system.

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>>53609284

Ablative armor does not seem particularly cost-effective to me, as far as AC increases are concerned.

Bore being easily blocked by stone limits its usefulness.

You are correct about energy rings. The lack of an explicit "The target cannot move from their space" statement had confused me, but now that I look at it, it would indeed seem to be a no-save immobilize against non-fliers.

Retarget power should be taken via Expanded Knowledge at 11th-level.

>>53609159
>>53609316
Of particular note is this part:
>The best option by far would be lesser rods of intensify spell, which are cheap as damn to the point of being feasible to buy in bulk, allowing to intensify even the quickened fireball at minimal cost, entirely replacing Blood Intensity for the purposes of this build and making it something that can be skipped in favour of normal bloodline powers, but one of the rules was "no X/day items".

>>53609317
There is a difference between competent, which is what they were, and automatically and totally, which is what they are now. I'm not going to police entire books just because my players have better memories than I do. I have enough GM shit to do without that added headache.

FYI, the 'ultra competent caster that is invincible' is a pipe dream.

>>53609350
Out of curiosity, which three feats?

>>53609340
Ablative Armor isn't especially cost effective (at least, when augmented- if all you need is a +2 3 pp for that is a steal), but that's not really the draw. It stacks with everything, which can help bridge the gap from just being a hard target to 95% avoidance, which is pretty huge.

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Do you think there will ever be a class, archetype, feat or something that let's you be something akin to a vigilante, except your alternate persona is a mech in Starfinder?

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Thinking about joining a game with a Dusk Knight paladin, but still wanting to have some bonus damage from my shadow smite. What are some good sources of Sneak Attack, other than Rogue VMC since it doesn't come online till 7th level? 1pp only.

>>53609522
At worst, you can homebrew it.

Hey /tg/, I need help with Roll20 macro editing.

How do I stop Weapon Notes from showing when rolling an attack?

Before Roll20 updated I'd simply delete it out the macro.
Now it only shows an ID, and I got no idea what to do with it.
Tried deleting {{weapon notes=weapon notes}} under settings for the attack template, and that does nothing.

If you're wondering, stuff is written in Weapon Notes for great convenience for the player and myself for NPCs.
As mentioned, before I could simply delete this so it doesn't show and reveal the info on a roll.

This question seems to be so specific that I can't find help anywhere. Would really appreciate the help.

>>53609367
The initiator feat mentioned above, Skill Focus in the requisite discipline skill, and the feat that gives you two bonuses to skills, one which would be your discipline skill. At tenth level, you have ten ranks plus 3 for the class skill, you take ten, and you have ten ranks in the skill. Before adding in your stat bonus and any magical augmentation, you now have a 33 BASE to your discipline maneuver. If that happens to be a counter for your save, you are functionally immune to anything the GM can throw at you at that level. You will hit and do damage automatically if it is a strike for double or triple damage, no roll required.

>>53610125
Except that the case you mention only applies to Scarlet Throne, you can't spam the save unless you're a warder and then only limited times a day and recovering it constantly makes you useless, you can't counter if you get caught flat-footed, you are still vulnerable to grapples, and still need to put a fairly considerable amount of maneuvers readied towards that purpose.

>>53609522
Wasn't piloting giant robots confirmed?

>>53609522
That would require a construct race at least, I think. Shit would be cool though, like just go Ultraman.

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>>53610260

Yes, mechs are go in Starfinder although not in the core book I believe

>>53610316
but can I get a gun so powerful that the recoil will snap my arm off so I can make a crater 10 km wide and an unknown distance long?

>>53610347

Might want to check with your GM about that. That said, a hammer the size of the moon would be better but to each his own.

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How do you handle a sudden PK by a teammate? Do you allow it? Or you just say "no, you can't"?

>>53610380
Only if the other player is cool with it. Else, it is just a big headache

>>53610380
>"Hey guys, anyone mind if I completely destroy this campaign? Its what my character would do"

If everyone involved is fine with it, there's no problem. Otherwise that player is literally ruining everyone's fun.

>>53609053
Yeah, PoW is a bad meme.

>>53609053
>>All encounters are decimated within a couple rounds
This was happening anyway
>Make an attack to get it all back and give all allies more damage
Literally only a problem for bullshit Initiators like Warlord, Zealot, and fucking Mystic.

Maneuver recovery really should have an opportunity cost that loses you an attack.

>>53609053
>lol spellcrafting
I'm not sure if the rules for it are misunderstood with my group but is it just horrendously broken when combining multiple spheres?

>Radiation Destructive Blast over a 2-mile radius thanks to Darkness
>Hell, basically any effect + 2 mile radius
The downsides aren't even that bad since Quicken is viable at almost any stage to blow a giga-damage spell that uses increased cast time.

>>53610316
Power armor and small mechs are in Core, big mechs are in a later book and probably coming out of an AP.

>>53610562
Spellcrafting is pretty much pure fiat and shouldn't be used under any circumstance.

>>53608757
make one for ensoulment

>>53610667
Ensoulment already has this:
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=593326cae4b08ff6f666b186

>>53610680
That one has fucked results though, it doesn't put them in order or have a pie chart or anything.
>CCC top of the list by a 50% margin of the next three
???

>>53610708
Smugness wins. :^)

>>53610708
>CCC top of the list by a 50% margin of the next three
I was surprised too desu, thought Rinta and Ceraphine at least would've been matched if not ahead
t. applicant

>>53610733
pls make her step on me

>>53610708
>DM asks for a heroic philosophy
>only one guy thinks to make a philosopher
Yeah gee I wonder.

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>>53606834
More like the Freefolk found us. Shit happened, I tell you, and Red Oni said she'd drop a greentext for you. All in all a session worth playing.

I just wish it went faster. We didn't get that much covered and the two rounds of combat we've had somehow lasted for 1 whole hour OOC. There's room for improvement here.

Anyway, I kept a souvenir as in pic related.

>>53608670
>Fox tits always at the top of the polls

Never change, /pgg/

>>53610849
Anon, the other characters have incomprehensible names and either nonexistent or dreadfully dull (especially for a level 10 character) backstories. Fox Tits is familiar territory with a story straight from pop Japanese mythology. People like that.

>>53610870
>incomprehensible names
Ah yes

>>53608670
>Reimeme topping the polls

How do I play a venerable spell caster and not look like a piece of shit?

>>53610708
>>53610721
>>53610733
>>53610789
Reminder that the discords almost certainly manipulate these polls.

>>53611014
Play up the fact they're an old piece of shit, make him or her acerbic and sharp with their insults. You're not just a powerful spellcaster, you're a grumpy old man that wants his chair and these goddamn piece of shit goblins are BETWEEN THAT DREAM.

>>53611014
Make them a perverted old man

>>53611024
>complaining about the cabal

>>53610951
It's the same reason a campaign around Not!Africa was like 90% white.

>>53611014
A Flawed Nacreous Gray Sphere protects against the visual appearance of aging, making you look young instead of old and ugly, while still giving you the stat modifiers of old age.

>>53611055
Didn't we discover "complaining about the cabal" just means "complaining that people know people?"

The cabal doesn't mean shit, anyway. IKiD was a newcomer to the scene but apparently they're part of the cabal because they have a knack for writing good characters.

>>53611059
I meant more in the sense of "reee your just doing it for the mentals" instead of the concept.

>>53611055
>bunch of people that talk a lot and are probably friends are all voting for eachother's characters

Literally yes in this scenario.

>>53611079
t. IKiD

>>53610870
>campaign about not!Asia specifically requiring not!Asia natives
>surprised there are a lot of Asian names

>>53611090
I usually don't even read any apps written not by people in the cabal. :^)

>>53610789

So who do you think should get in, then?

>>53611090
No, that's my point, this is a general where a good chunk of people now know each other, this is normal behavior to see

Leaking logs, screencaps, and private invitations is not normal

>>53611105
CCC, Rinta, Derrin, Ceraphine, one of Giancarlo or Ryoko , one of Niccolo or Itsuko.
I'm just not a fan of straight up heroes desu.

>>53611090
>frequenters of /pfg/ vote for the characters they like
Not seeing the issue

>>53611122
Who do you think should be the first guest appearances?

>>53611138
Witch.

>>53611138
Mouse getting sprayed with color and ending up swinging from a tree after getting too snowflake with the smugelf ubermensch.

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>when you can't remember if there was a game last night and you won't be home for a week

help

>>53611122
Why Ryoko or Giancarlo, they seem quite different.

Real talk, /pfg/, post your ideal Golden Chalice party.

>>53611191
It's okay, if they played without you than they'll play without you, all you need to do is tell them when you're next available.

>>53611152
Oh please, ideal end is her marrying some blonde-haired dick delivery system and having a half-dozen octaroons.

>>53611223
BEST SANDBOX EXPERIENCE YOU'LL EVER HAVE

fucking kek

>>53611277
The thing about sandboxes is they're big boxes of, well, sand. Most people don't want to play in sand, it's coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere.

>>53611277
Where's this spicy hot meme coming from, son?

If we pretended Protag cares about popular opinion, by the easypoll the current members of Ensoulment will be
- 1. CCC, 10 votes
- 2. Derrin, 7 votes
- 2. Ceraphine, 7 votes
- 2. Itsuko, 7 votes
- 2. Rintaelle, 7 votes
Plus one of the following
- 6. Witch, 6 votes
- 6. Giancarlo, 6 votes
- 6. Ryoko, 6 votes
- 6. Alexander, 6 votes
- 6. Eleanor, 6 votes

If we pretended the old-ass strawpoll was legit it'd be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 1. Mouse, 17 votes (got to 5 before it exploded up)
- 2. Cornelia Criceta Cinerus, 15 votes
- 2. Alexander, 15 votes (got to 8 or 9 before it exploded up)
- 4. Ceraphine, 13 votes
- 4. Rintaelle, 13 votes
- 6. Itsuko, 12 votes
- 7. Witch, 11 votes
- 8. Giancarlo, 10 votes
- 9. Ryoko, 9 votes
In other words, keeping in mind Derrin was literally unfinished at the time, Alexander was rigged up but he's fairly popular anyhow and everyone else on that list has the legit backing of the >thread.

>>53611213
I just liked both of them but wanted a >le science person too. The big three aren't really negotiable to me and having no straight up heroes at all seemed stupid to me so Derrin is the strongest of that archetype.

>>53611223
Chalice has like, lowkey hype or something, it's got almost 30 apps but nobody ever talks about it.

>>53611299
>most people don't want to play in sand
speak for yourself

>>53611337
A lot of those apps for Chalice are roll20 randomers, to be fair.

>>53611326
DM came in the thread when chalice was first announced and sperged out at someone who said chalice seemed boring

>>53611449
I thought it was a Discord thing

>>53611485
nope, thread joke

>>53611449
Link?

Also, speaking of Golden Chalice, can someone give me the TL:DR of all the apps?

>>53611495
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53453701/#53458711

Lurker in Darkness

Your training allows you to foil even magical and unusual senses.
Prerequisites: Stealth 6 ranks.
Benefit: Creatures using unusual forms of sensory perception such as blindsight, greensight, or tremorsense cannot automatically foil your use of Stealth; such creatures must make a Perception check as normal to detect you when you make use of the Stealth skill. This feat foils indirect detection (such as a creature using detect magic to search for your magical items while you are using Stealth) in the manner described above, but has no effect on psi-like abilities, powers, spells, spell- like abilities, and/or supernatural abilities specifically used to uncover information about you rather than enhancing the user’s perception, such as the augury spell.

How does this work?

If I'm using Formless Dance to gain blur for concealment, does that mean I can make stealth checks without alternate senses defeating blur?

>>53610204
>implying similar feats won't flood thrid party initiating material and DSP books

>>53611599
The devs are very well aware of the issue with the zenith strikes and have mentioned multiple times that it's due for a tuning down with the eventual errata. Heck, you can just easily ban the Zenith strikes and you should no longer have any issues.
PoW:E having substantially better balance, if still having a couple issues here and there, should be proof enough.

>>53611639

PoW:E added Elemental Flux and Riven Hourglass.

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>>53611337
>Alexander

Didn't he also post Fox tits to JttW?

Anyone know where I can find the Seducer Witch Archetype online?

please spoon-feed me [spoiler/]