/5eg/ - Fifth Edition General

So 5e, tell me about your alchemists

>>53593726
French triton woman with a mechanical octopus in a bag of holding. Have the potions flavored as underwater plants that lose effectiveness quickly once exposed to the air.

Thoughts on spell points?

>>53593726
Their potions are too strong for you.

>>53593726
I have them as part of a master-craftsman background.

Nature and Arcana proficiency + 1 tool of their choice.

Crafting time is reduced by 1/4 as per UA downtime rules and they need 10GP less materials to make something (It's a small profit DMs should be able to cope with. There's no point to a trade if it doesn't bring profits.).

>>53593873
I think sorcerers should use spell points by default

>>53593683
Which is better- hexblade or vengance paladin?

>>53594086
Better at what?

My OotA players rolled the sent back in time on the Maze Engine.

They just murdered all the drow at the starting prison and are planning on hitting up all the best treasure and murdering everyone who slighted them before finishing Vizerans ritual about a year ahead of schedule

>>53594042
I agree.

How about Warlocks? I've seen a lot of people say that they should use it.

>>53594154
nah i think they just need an extra spell slot to counteract the fact that nobody runs as many short rests as the game suggests.

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>>53593726
Mine's a Witcher basically, drinks potions to buff self

>>53594168
I think I agree with this, too. Spell Points are weirder for Warlocks anyway since they're supposed to auto-cast up to 5th level by default.

>>53594138
I don't know, play in general I suppose? So which is more effective in combat, fun to play, etc

>>53594086
Hexblade, most consistent burst if given proper rests. Pally offers more defenses though, easily shored up by a fighter dip for locks though.

>>53594243
>>53594168
>>53594154
Even with an extra slot, which I tried in our game. The Warlock seems to lag behind but our DM generally only runs 2 encounters before a long rest, and they tend to be harsher one to "balance" it. So its expected for the Wizard, or Druid to burn half the spells in a single fight. My Warlock was only able to keep up due to Spell-points. Granted this might be a case specific condition but its my two pence.

>>53594358
That's your DM fucking them more than anything, for a warlock to break even there they'd need 5 spell slots or something.

>>53594262
Is it better to play straight hexblade (with maybe first in fighter for heavy armour) or to multiclass into another cha caster like bard or sorcerer after lvl 5 for more smite slots?

>>53594397
1 fighter dip gets huge bang for your buck and stress the importance of proper rests and you'll be gravy. They are super fun though. 20d8 damage that refreshes every short rest is ridiculous.

>>53594441
Yeah I would definitely go 1 fighter, probably v human and start with gwm or some other feat. Is it worth going past lvl 5 in warlock though? Multiclassing into bard or sorcerer after I pick up extra attack would provide a lot more spell slots for smiting.

>>53594441
>1 fighter dip
>not 2 fighter dip
anon, please.

>>53594397
I think it's worth getting more invocations and the higher + pact weapon buffs.

>>53594503
>>53594441
>>53594262
>dipping
>not multiclassing 4 levels minimum

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Is Mystic too good?
Seems extremely overloaded to me.

>>53594503
Extra attack is worth rushing over surge
>>53594497
Lifedrinker is too good to ignore plus mystic arcanum

>>53594554
>Extra attack is worth rushing over surge
no one said you had to take them back to back, take 1 level of fighter, get your extra attack, then take another level of fighter.

>>53594503
2 Fighter dip is not worth it, action surge is overrated imo and it delays extra attack by 2 levels
>>53594515
>>53594554
Yeah warlock is probably better, I will do that then

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Are there any UAs / decent homerules expanding melee attack options / stances / hit locations or should I simply not bother with this if I'm feeling severely limited with 5e in this regard and move on to another system?

>>53594358
Does he offer a short rest between the two encounters?

Because seriously, otherwise classes that rely on short rests are getting fucked either way.

Also, 2 encounters per day is a pretty hard way to travel through a dungeon.

>>53594547
If you pick the broken shit, yes. There are enough options to make a non-broken character.

>>53594594
You can add in some of the DMG additional/variant combat options and brew up some more options based on BM maneuvers and there's some Kobold Press thing called I think Beyond Damage Dice but I haven't read it.

>>53594639
>>53594378
So far I do get a short rest between fights, but we really don't do dungeons. Also a lot of non-combat encounters, which almost always leaves the martials who ignored their utility bored.

He has been leading this game for about 3 months. I am trying to weasel my way into do a couple oneshots between major story beats, because I wanna show them a different style of play. If it wasn't impossible to get a group together in this area I would have moved on.

>>53594589
>Not getting extra attack first

For what purpose?

>>53594768
right? he's acting like getting action surge and extra attack are mutually exclusive.

>>53594547
It's ''pick 5 subclasses at once the class''.

>>53594791
>>53594768
Yeah, i suppose it will be worthwhile to take a second level at some point, problem is it is unlikely the character will be played beyond 10th or 15th lvl, as that is when my groups campaigns seem to end

>>53594889
well, seeing as how you can get extra attack and action surge by level 6, i think you'll be okay.

Anyone else watching day 2 of Stream of Annihilation?

>>53594907
or level 7, whatever it is.

>>53594938
How long until it starts?

>>53594946
But is it worth delaying extra warlock spell slots, eldritch invocations, and pact features? I would probably not take it until after i got the lifedrinker invocation at lvl 13

>>53594952
Started about 5 minutes ago

>>53594938
Yes.

>>53594952
Started a few minutes ago. They're just doing a Day 1 recap right now, should be another announcement soon before the first game of the day.

>>53594938
Waiting for the High Rollers part to start, not really interested in the one before that.

I'm making a custom Necklace of Prayer Beads. Spells are Compelled duel, Cure wounds (2nd level) / Lesser restoration, Blinding smite, Planar ally. Since I want to make compelled duel actually usable, I'll add this blurb:
>You can choose to forgo concentration on spells cast from the beads, but the spell save DC becomes 13. If you do so after casting the target immediately makes another saving throw.

Does this break anything with compelled duel or blinding smite?

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NEW BOOK ANNOUNCED TODAY
XANATHAR'S GUIDE TO EVERYTHING

How do you treat player character that go to religious place and donate gold. It just 1 or 2 but they are falling behind in the long run.

>>53595080
i wouldn't worry about it. They are making an investment.

>>53595080
Put a beggar in the streets or similar instances. If they help the npc, reward them with a potion or something of value. A one-use trinket, perhaps gold. Beggar could be an angel in disguise, shit like that.

>>53595077
What is it actually about tho?

>>53595147
Everything, of course.

>>53595077
I think you mean "NEW BOOK TEASED YESTERDAY". Ain't shit announced today yet.

>>53595147
Everything.

>>53595170
ugh, i knew that would be the reply

>>53595147
Some things.

>>53594694
Thanks. Yeah, I guess trying homebrewing is the way to go for now.

>>53595181
god dammit

>http://dnd.wizards.com/streamofannihilation

Is this any good? I watched 10 seconds of it and started cringing immediately, and closed it. Is it worth fighting through the initial cringe response and getting immersed?

They're speaking about Xanathar's right now

>>53595147
Everything

Xanathar's is just published UA

>>53595216
Has you waited 5 minutes you would have gotten you the real answer because they're explaining on stream right now. It's UA subclasses and variant rules.

November release for Xanathar's Guide to Everything. ~200 pages. Features the various UA stuff: subclasses, downtime, traps, etc.

>>53595267
Revised?

>>53595225
I'm only tuning in for when Mercer and the CR crew show up. Keeping it muted in a separate tab until then

>>53595262
>>53595267
So from now on we can say it's about everything UA. Or just quote UA titles.

>>53595305Yes. It doesn't included everything, only the UA that was well received, while other UA is getting scrapped and/or going under further revision.

>>53595262
>>53595267
Oh cool, any word on which subclasses? Hopefully it includes hexblade and revised ranger

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The new book.

>>53595267
3 archetypes for each (except wizard) is a strange choice too. hopefully they've improved them significantly, and hopefully it includes the revised ranger. i'm not sure how they're going to do, for example, 3 monk archetypes, since drunken fist was so bad.

the dm tools sounds fun but i really wish they'd do some weapons.

Source?

>>53595332
they really liked Volo's Guide to Monsters them

>>53595332
Limited-edition cover is by the same artist who worked on Volo's guide. Awesome.

>>53595332
That cover is awesome

>>53595324
Which UA were well-received?

I'd like to get an idea of what's going to be present

>>53595344
Stream of Annihilation, dnd channel on twitch

>>53595329
I assume it's almost all the ones from UA because each class is getting three except the wizard. The hexblade seems to be very popular so I imagine it'll be in there.

>>53595386
They specifically mentioned multiple class archetypes for each class (except only 1 for wizard), downtime, traps, and some other stuff. It's 200 pages of material so expect quite a bit of it.

>>53595386
They said there would be three new options for each existing class. I doubt we'll be getting Mystic or Artificer, though. It's possible, but they already said that they wanted to play test those classes more with DM's Guild.

>>53595332
I'm really liking the standard cover, but I'm probably going to grab the limited edition.

>>53595344
The Stream of Annihilation. You'd have to go into the archived videos to where they announced it. They haven't put out an official press release/article yet. Probably holding off until the stream ends so they can just dump a big article for everything.

>>53595386
Not Sharpshooter.

>>53595435
>>53595411
Thanks.

>>53595413
>>53595424
Wow, that's really exciting, can't wait!

>>53595424
>TFW Loremaster is so strong it's a waste of print to give wizard other options

Anyone has a link for a free download of the critter compendium? Or at least can tell me if it is worth the 15$

>>53595424
>>53595425
I guess that confirms the new Druid circles then. I'm glad because my druid is Circle of Twilight

This seems terrible. Does the Tiefling have nudes though?

Jesus, is this all just a long intro? Do they play this before every video of them playing?

>>53595469
yep you just know it's going to be loremaster, and going to be busted shit no reasonable DM would ever allow, thus causing all retarded DMs to not allow the entire book.

>>53595469
It's not going to be Loremaster. Most likely War Wizard.

>>53595510
>It's not going to be Loremaster
i really hope it's not, but I don't trust people to make good decisions.

>>53595341
Hey they might finally fix Wot4E?

>>53595530
Kensei, tranquility, and drunken master.

>>53595510
>>53595529
Do you think its going to be unedited subclasses? They might just do loremaster and tone it down a bit

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>>53595332
Beautiful cover art. More than makes up for the cover for Tomb of Annihilation.

>>53595469
lol

>>53595546
Replace tranquility with 4ele fix, but they probably won't.

>>53595546
For fuck sake, fix it WotC! I'm tired of listening to players whine when they realize it's hit garbage and can't be fucking bothered to get the third party pdf fixing it.

>>53595553
>They might just do loremaster and tone it down a bit
not fucking likely. The fact they thought it was okay for even an UA release shows they can't be trusted.

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>>53595529
>>53595553
Pic related is from when they posted wizards revisited UA. Now that I reread it, it might be Theurgy though.

>>53595332
Wouldn't be too bothered if I got that standard over the limited edition, unlike volos which was shit

>>53595603
oh good, theurgist, the one they released twice with no changes

>>53595603
Damn that Elf Druid chick seems thirsty as fuck for Matt.

>>53595669
i think thats his gf

>>53595720
Don't tell Marisha

>>53595720
.......... His fiance is Marisha Ray, and from the jokes flying out he's cucked by Talisen.

Ok at least the dwarf is entertaining, but I see it getting annoying fast

Kek ugly girl butting in for a short awkward silence

Holy fuck the dwarf is so cringy

>>53595791
>ugly girl
Which one is the ugly one?

>>53595798
And that's why it's entertaining, seeing a chick parody a guy thinking it's funny when it's just bad

>>53595798
She is the only reason this is slightly interesting

Give me a rundown on everything important revealed so far on stream.

>>53595811
First guess corset chick to Mercer's left

The one playing the tiefling(?) is pretty hot
>>53595798
Agreed to be desu

>>53595737
I never got those jokes. Is it 'cause they're all huggy and shit? 'Cause I'll be honest Talisen always seemed like a dude who got frienzoned the shit out of.

Because why would you sleep with Talisen over Mercer, like on a physical attraction level it's clear Mercer is the better looking.

>>53595811
ooh forgot about other girl next to blue hair also ugly
the dwarf I mean

>I'd like to persuade her
>Rolls

Jesus fuck people RP that shit out first

>>53595821
Fair enough I guess, it's just bad in general imo

>>53595872
this
my party doesn't even allow rolling against eachother for persuasion and shit, gotta really persuade through rp n shit

>>53595332
this book gonna be GOAT

>>53595850
That's exactly what I was thinking. He seems like the dude that gets called best friend a lot lol

>>53595850
That's the joke, Talisen is King of friend zoned due to being Talisen. Now if people said Travis was I'd believe it.

>>53595844
>>53595857
>tfw you're a bit above average looking but you play with a bunch of models so you are the ugly one

>>53595872
I hate this shit. If I was DMing in my current group first time that happens I would stop and explain how charisma skills work.

>>53595872
Yeah, amazing dm but bad players

>>53595332
Hoping for new magic items.

>>53595950
https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/status/871059797759606784

Don't hope, it's confirmed.

New DM here. The OP treasure trove is pretty useful, but I want to run a game in another language and unfortunately there's only English PDFs there.
Does anyone in this thread know where I can find good French translations of the starter set?

>>53595968
>https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/status/871059797759606784
>new rules on magic items
Does this mean rules for magic item creation or something? Glad to see there seems to be a lot of content, though.

>>53595924
Yeah she's not terrible but compared to the others doesn't do too well

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In descending order
Blue hair - knife-ears - pixie - horns - plain jane - dwarf
damn blue hair trying to metagame asking if she had a perspective of something all of a sudden
blue hair has baggage too, pic related

>>53595992
I think they mentioned something about having rules to let players buy magic items. I don't remembering if creation was also mentioned but I'd assume it'll be there if rules for buying them are.

>>53596005
Descending order of?

>>53596018
Crafting and buying items are part of the new downtime rules.

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>>53595968

>>53596005
I can't tell if that's a subtle troll or people are really that retarded

>>53595839
Yesterday: Tomb of Annihilation, focuses on Chult and Acerak fucking around with death/ressurection, creating zombie dinosaurs; supposed to be Indiana Jones-style and is supposed to work well enough as just a setting book if you don't care about the adventure; comes out September. Miniatures being put out and an expansion or whatever for the Neverwinter MMO. Also a green metal tin with the Green Devil on it with green dice will be released. D&D Beyond will have Twitch integration where you can roll over a character and see conditions/stats.

Today: Xanathar's Guide to Everything, mostly UA rules, and the higher rated UA subclasses, but includes some extra stuff; written from Xanathar's perspective; releases November.

>>53596030
attractiveness

>>53596005
Strictly speaking she is correct.

>>53596018
>rules to let players buy magic items
Hm, I guess there was a lot of autistic screeching after they explicitly said "don't do that" in the DMG.

>>53596005
knife ears > blue hair > mercer > rest

>>53596044
I think her twitter was filled with stuff like that, couldn't take it so I wiped it from my mind
>>53596058
I mean I guess the elf was tripping out and looked like she was seeing something, blue hair was being super specific with her question tho

>>53596055
horns is way more attractive than blue hair

Also, why are they all women?

>>53596102
Two of them are sisters, the rest are friends. They have their own youtube channel or something.

>>53596102
That's the gimmick, it's an all female d&d group

>>53596102
It's the new group WotC has put together, my guess is they're gonna see if they can replicate the popularity of other streams by just picking people and putting them together.

>>53596102
gotta proselytize the normies

>>53596117
>That's the gimmick
Thank god, I was afraid the bad costumes are supposed to be the gimmick.

Advertising with tits at least makes sense.

>>53596111
>>53596117
>>53596124
Oh ok, thanks. I don't think they are very good really, luckily mercer is such a god he keeps it interesting

>>53596076
Knife ears> Pixie> Mercer> Rest

>>53596143
>>53596154
I think normally the girl with the horns is their DM.

>I'd like to make a nature check
learn to roleplay lady, mercer will tell you when to roll

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>>53596143
This. Knife ears and horns are definitely doing it for me

>>53596154
Meh so far horns isn't terrible, nor is knife ears the rest haven't given much beyond corset.

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Fucking what? Chick on the Stream went to my uni. I recall teaching her 3.5

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>>53596005
Knife-ears is best girl though

>>53596184
>You think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

>>53596176
Horns is good imo, knife ears overacts a bit I reckon but she is pretty decent. I can't stand the dwarf

What's the alignment that offers the most freedom of actions?

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>>53596189
Daisy Ridley, is that you?

>>53596228
Chaotic Neutral.

>>53596228
Objectively chaotic evil

>>53596184
you poor soul, any of the others (cept the dwarf) would have been great

first time seeing Mercer, he pretty gud- what does he normally do/stream?

>>53596228
Chaotic Neutral

>>53596228
All of them. Your Alignment doesn't stop you from doing anything, it just changes accordingly.

>>53596225
>I can't stand the dwarf

I get the feeling that will be something said alot. Also based on the stream I think they're trying a little hard to put on a show.

>>53595147
Nothing.

>>53596248
He's the DM of Critical Role which is by far the most popular D&D Livestream.

Aside from that, he's a well known voice actor, played Leon in Resident Evil, and a ton of other roles.

>>53596248
Critical Role. I watch it mostly to take cues from his style of DMing. His worldbuilding skills are a bit lackluster but makes it up by being really great with characters.

How was Mearls' game yesterday?

>>53596248
Critical Role, Sam, Travis and him are the main reason to watch that show.

>>53596248
Critical role, a super popular dnd series
>>53596269
Yeah it just seems like they are overdoing it which makes it seem unnatural

>>53596248
>>53596206
She literally only played a few games because she had the hots for a friend of mine named Nate. I guess the Erika lady also went to my school but don't know her.

>>53596269
>I think they're trying a little hard to put on a show
They feel pretty stiff. Oddly enough when some of them were in different groups seperate from eachother in Day1, they didn't seem like bad players.
I think they aren't doing themselves any favours with forcing it so hard, especially with the costumes in every session.

>>53596228
Neutral Evil, it's pretty much the only alignment that allows you to act however you want depending on circonstances.

>>53596240
>>53596246
>>53596258
Nah, anything chaotic prevents you from making long term reasonable plans, subterfuge etc, it's all about reacting more than having a wide range of choices

>>53596282
>>53596288
>>53596296
>>53596292
Thanks kindly, no wonder people mention Critical Role a lot

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>>53596289
>even questioning its quality

>>53596289
Awesome. It was definitly the highlight of the show yesterday.
Both because of his DMing and having the best player group.

>>53595872
Any group I've been in has had a system by which you receive bonuses for an actually convincing argument. If your logic is almost airtight then you gain advantage. If it makes very little sense then you get disadvantage. then stat bonuses inbetween.
When I DM, if you don't give an argument, you can't use modifiers on your role

>>53596311
yeah actually you are probably right

>>53596289
Pretty fuckin good. He's a fun DM, if a bit repetitive. Mercer was a really good player too.

Alright, /tg/

Do I spend my first ASI on a feat for flavor that will probably not see much use mechanically, but will benefit me RP-wise?

Or do I spend it on optimizing my character for combat?

>>53596325
>>53596327
Did he force them all to play mystic?

Stupid dwarf shut the fuck up, that yell was awful

damn dwarf spazzing out
>>53596327
darn I missed the best group? how many days is this supposed to be

>>53596296
As I read that the fucking dwarf scream

>>53596306
Yeah I think they might come to regret deciding to do this gimmick setup

>>53596289
One of the PCs (a twelve year old halfling) got disintegrated to dust by a Beholder eye ray, so it went pretty successfully I'd say.

>>53596361
Depends on the group and campaign, if the rest of the group is optimising then optimise. If your group focusses on roleplay then go with the feat

>>53596366
This is the last day, ends at 10 PM PST. There are VoDs of everything from yesterday on their twitch channel.

>>53596366
You can always watch the vod
https://www.twitch tv/videos/149214990

>>53596361
Wait until your second ASI then. Increase odd ability scores.

>>53596366
>darn I missed the best group?
You can always look up the recording on the twitch channel.

>how many days is this supposed to be
Two.

>>53596374
the accents are the big mistake, they're taking any sincerity away from their roleplaying.

>>53596374
That scream was just... fucking hell

>>53596362
No, because then he'd be faced with what people are complaining about.

>>53596399
>the accents are the big mistake, they're taking any sincerity away from their roleplaying.
Don't be ridiculous, doing fake voices and accents for your characters is perfectly normal.

The costumes are a bit much though.

>>53596399
The accents of the two on the left are fine desu

>Can I use blade ward and attack?
learn the rules wow

>Dat gasp
jesus

>>53596399
For me it's the costumes, it's never terrible to do an accent if you can keep it consistent.

>Mercer has to pretend the player's stupid rules question that they should have figured out moths ago is reasonable
Where have I seen this before

>>53596415
>costumes
this especially since it looked like they wanted to show you could play d&d with no extra stuff like props at all

>>53596421
>Learn the rules
It isn't as bad as the shitshow that was the meatgrinder rules yesterday

>>53596435
Where have you seen this before?
Also these players should know the damn rules considering they are on an official dnd stream

>>53596442
What happened there? And who was playing?

>>53596435
It's Mercer he's really used to it, and at hiding that it's stupid since it's normally his fiance he has to correct.

>Playing a happy-go-lucky halfling necromancer who uses skeletons to protect innocent people
>DM constantly has people attack me or my undead.
>Everyone somehow manages to see through the copious amounts of illusion magic and perfume I put on them every morning when we're in public.
>I'm apparently now an infamous murderer in the surrounding regions and most people refuse to deal with me when they recognize me
>Getting real sick of DM's bullshit
>Hit level 11, take Magic Jar.
>DM pits us against a high-level character with insane hit points
>Subdue him after combat.
>Bestow Curse: Charisma saves. Magic Jar.
> :^)

>>53596442
What happened yesterday? I didnt watch

>>53596415
accents are fine when they aren't as horrific as day, the dwarf, who has the worst acting of all and who is essentially monotone from strainging her voice. for her especially the roleplaying is really shallow. "horny" is the worst character trait.

>>53596452
Perkins DM and a ton of people. I watched it mostly for Trump (Hearthstone streamer) and Joe Mangianello (my man Alcide from True Blood). Sadly they died pretty quickly.

>>53596452
>>53596463
Bunch of people because when someone died, someone else came on, and a lot of people died. There were a lot of rules being missed and wrong, but the main one I remember was the girl to mercers left doing 34 damage with a 1d12 witch bolt

>>53596446
On CR it's a regular thing, especially with their druid

>>53596498
Oh right, I am only halfway through the first critical role episode (they are so long) but the druid already annoys me

>>53596522
I could only get halfway through the first episode because Tiberius.

>>53596522
Yeah Tiberius is another to watch out for he's almost as bad but that solves itself later.

>>53596586
>>53596561
I wasn't sure if tiberius was an autistic player or a regular player playing an autistic character. I guess it's the player that is the problem then. I assume he dies later, does he create a new character or leave the group?

im running a game in 5 hours this is the first session. I dont want the players to know each other instead they would have to look around town to start an adventuring party. and tips on how to do this correctly?

>>53596612
>>53596561
They boot his ass outta the stream.

>>53596625
Did he actually get kicked off? no one really talked about why he's done playing

>>53596612
He gets kicked out

>>53596616
I highly recommend against this, it can lead to some amusing encounters but it takes a long-ass time to get a group of adventurers together when they need to stumble around and find each other.

>>53596625
>>53596636
hahahahahaa no way, what did he do that was so bad?

>>53596616
>and tips on how to do this correctly?
By not doing it at all.

That out of the way, I know why this 'sounds' like a good idea, but its really not, because having to handle several players all in seperate locations doing things is a real strain and most importantly takes up a lot of time for something that just isn't that much fun.

I suggest if you want to do something like this, you should make it two groups that are looking for more people and herd them towards eachother where they have reason to cooperate on something. A job offer, a tavern that gets robbed by bandits etc.

Do NOT make them all run around individually and do NOT let them run around freely on their own.

>>53596625
>>53596636
He chose to leave due to personal reasons. He had his good moments.

>>53596616
Personally I have tried that and it just lead to annoying meandering.

>>53596616
Have some event happen that they would be interested in to bring them together

>>53596616
In my experience, it's better to have the characters all know eachother from the beginning, it really easily builds camaraderie between the characters and players, especially if the players aren't friends in real life.

If you insist on them forming an adventuring party, just have there be a big problem that needs dealt with, and then go around the table and have everyone describe what brings them to the adventurers guild where they meet everyone else.

>>53596636
He took a hissy fit at a fan for making Tiberius fan art he didn't like. Told them they were "uncrittered" or something. Basically told them to fuck off and never watch their stuff again. Travis jumped in and told him to shut the fuck up and told the fan to keep making art and that he liked the art. Orion gets the boot before the next episode.

>>53596616
>>53596650
To follow up: if you want the PCs to start out without knowing eac other then just have them be strangers hired on to the same job. They'll still get to do the "getting to know each other" thing but it won't bog down the session.

>>53596616
We always do that, but the thing is it's going to take a while for the party to form, and some player's won't say yes or will take a long while to join because they want to be contrary, and eventually the players will just immediately say yes for the thinnest of reasons just to get the ball rolling

>>53596616
Watch Colville

>>53596675
dude what the fuck!? where can I find this? is it a video?

>>53596616
Giant rats break out of the tavern and spill into the streets. Calls for help and screaming attracts players, players kill rats, town elder calls the adventurers together to reward them and maybe mentions another quest. Cliché, sure, but pretty much necessary if you go the "we don't know each other" route.

>>53596685
I can't recommend this strongly enough, for anyone learning to DM or who is unsure about how to do certain things right. His videos on youtube are extremly informative and well explained.

>>53596681
>>53596677
>>53596671
>>53596665
>>53596664
>>53596650
ok thanks guys. im new to dming that's why I asked

>>53596675
Why is Travis so based?

HOW DOES SHE NOT KNOW WHAT A CRIT DOES?!??!?!

>>53596675
to add on he lied about rolls and sorcerer points apparently, and in general how much of a that guy he was.

>>53596701
Tweets. The archives are out there if you look hard enough. If I remember right, he also made some off-colour remarks to Laura (Travis' wife) and there was clearly a frosty atmosphere brought about with that which boiled over, evidently.

>>53596719
He's a Chad that likes nerd shit. Best of both worlds. Who's going to challenge a 6'4" wall of muscle on his choice of hobby after all?

>>53594150
Good.

>>53596653
Rumours are he made Marisha uncomfortable at times, then one episode he says something, I think towards Laura, and Travis looks like he's about to beat him. The guy had cancer and used D&D to kinda escape, I don't doubt in their home game stuff was fine but he probably started going a little over the top when he camera switched on.

Official story is it was mutual and he left for his own reasons.

>>53596761
Also the best roleplayer they have, dude is amazing at it.

>thinks she can crit on a saving throw with a 19 because champion fighter
learn to play

>>53594547
>Ban Nomadic Mind
>Have a DM with the minimal amount of character to say no to the abuse of poorly worded powers.
Done.

>>53596720
>>53596803
See
>>53596435

>>53596761
He's also pretty secure in his identity, as he dressed up in a maid outfit for one of the episodes that was filmed around Halloween.

I think he was also on nip/tuck as a minor NPC, when one of the surgeons went to a store for drag and crossdressers with a client to help them pick out new clothes for after the surgery. I don't remember the entire clip, but I do know it was a younger Travis.

>>53596737
Yeah he said something one episode, forget which, and Travis looked like he was about to beat that ass on stream.

>>53596803
>Thinking you can crit on a saving throw period

Fucking plebs

>>53594150
How would time travel work in terms of magic items? Would there be two dawnbringers?

>>53596844
I know, it's just so unprofessional. An official dnd stream from wizards should have experienced players, not newbies

>>53596866
>An official dnd stream from wizards should have experienced players, not newbies
I can't agree with that at all.
Its good that they have a variety of players from different experience levels, so they can show mistakes and explain rules to new players that are watching.

>>53596866
The problem is even on CR it's still a thing and Mercer has only recently been reigning it in with asking "ok what is that total?"

>>53596858
Since waifu blade is sentient, wouldn't it replace the original as the party-from-the-future did with their past selves?
It would probably return into the crypt, though.

>>53596823
I think it was on his past episode. Early 20s. Maybe 23?

>>53596823
Something about her getting naked (character) but he said ooohhh boner or whatever about Laura

>>53596893
The issue is that no one wants to create any sort of drama or slow down the game because they are strapped for time, so when mistakes are made, they are typically just glossed over in favor of time.

>>53596761
>>53596797
>>53596818
As someone who plays and is getting in better shape being more like Travis is the goal.

>>53596866
I would think having newbs on makes the game look more approachable to casual players. Less focus on autistic rules lawyering and more emphasis on just having fun.

>>53596908
>>53596823
I watched critical role many times.
im pretty it was "I have a 1/4 chub right now because of your battle strategy" some shit like that

>>53596893
I think they are portraying it as a professional thing with all the voice actors and costumes, so it's silly when they don't know the rules. If they made it clear that the players are new and it is an event for inexperienced roleplayers I would agree with you.

>>53596923
>so when mistakes are made, they are typically just glossed over in favor of time
As far as I saw mostly just for less important stuff, simply to save time. Which is also a important thing to show, that letting it slide sometimes for the sake of keeping things smooth is perfectly fine.

>>53596908
Yeah it was way back

>>53596915
Sounds about right, he's pretty laid back with the whole Percy Vex thing but that's mutual and actually funny at times.

>>53594150
>Go back in time to the prison
Seems like it could be annoying if someone died and was replaced by someone on the surface in the faction meeting chapter.

>>53596946
>I think they are portraying it as a professional thing with all the voice actors and costumes
I agree that the costumes are definitly overkill on this group.
The voice actors are pretty much just people who play D&D so its not really a criteria for how good you should be at the game.

>>53596949
>>53596925
If they knew how to play and how action economy worked etc they would be able to play a lot faster and more enjoyably, and new players would get a sense of how the game actually works (ie only one action a round)

>>53596992
>and new players would get a sense of how the game actually works (ie only one action a round)
There is no one way how the game "actually" works, which is exactly what all these different groups are showing.

Does Readying an action to take the Attack action allow you the regular extra attacks, or does it say somewhere that it's limited to one?

>>53596992
Thats why you have both beginners and vets. You can see the spectrum, and can also notice pitfalls of a novice.

>>53597022
Extra Attack specifies on your turn, that's why you can't do more than one attack when you Ready.

>>53596965
Travis has said on multiple occasions that the thing he likes the most about CR is the story that Matt's made and how the characters interact with it and shape it for themselves.

And for all their faults, Liam and Marisha were kind of the trail blazers for the inter-party relationship to be "viable" as an option.

To me, the Vex-Percy relationship makes more sense than the Vax-Keyleth one, just due to how those characters have changed and grown over the start of the show to present.

Probably my favorite "Travis approves of this ship" moment is the bathtub scene between Vax and Percy.

>>53595386
Revised Ranger, Barbarian Archetypes, Cleric Domains, the latest Kensai, Redmption paladin, Scout rogue, Stone Sorcerrer and Hexblade.

>>53597038
Oh, SHIT. I totally overlooked that.

Thanks a lot, it's been bugging me for weeks!

>>53595546
Tranquility needs to replace its forced peace and nuclear Ghandi features.

Drunken master needs a total rework and actual features.

Latest Kensei is great and should definetly be in as it is.

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>yfw Betrayal At Baldur's Gate

I'm making a race that, for the sake of easy explanation its not quite correct, are basically Cloud Giant flavoured Goliath.
I just can't think of a good main trait for them that isn't just the Cloud Giant spell-likes.

>Betrayal At Baldur's Gate
Best thing this stream so far.

Related to CR, how exactly is it possible for a person to play a game for so long and not pick up the simpler rules by osmosis alone?

>>53597104
Mash Goliath with air genasi?

>>53597113
Did you miss Xanathar's Guide to Everything?

>>53597114
By just forgetting them in that moment.

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>>53597104
So what, the Kolossae from Kingdoms of Amalie?

>>53597045
>Travis has said on multiple occasions that the thing he likes the most about CR is the story that Matt's made and how the characters interact with it and shape it for themselves.

I definitely like that about what Mercer's done and it helps show kinda how to do it for newer DMs.

>And for all their faults, Liam and Marisha were kind of the trail blazers for the inter-party relationship to be "viable" as an option.

I will admit that they at least broke the ice on it, even if it seems forced

>To me, the Vex-Percy relationship makes more sense than the Vax-Keyleth one, just due to how those characters have changed and grown over the start of the show to present.

Yes

>Probably my favorite "Travis approves of this ship" moment is the bathtub scene between Vax and Percy.

One of the best moments, him just laughing his ass off at it

>>53597114
Acting and entertaining, also mercer is very lenient.

>>53597126
That's just UA, thats polished. Not at big surprise.

>>53597114
They jumped from a completely different edition in the beginning. Also they drink and are more focused on having fun.

What languages are worth learning? I already have Common, Elvish, and Giant.

>>53597133
They're supposed to be themed after those "isolated sacred mountain valley" ala. Shangri-La, Shambala etc.

>>53597164
Any semi-demonic language. You're bound to find some ancient demonic ritual somewhere, and you'll be glad you can understand what the cultists are chanting about.

>>53597114
For some of the cast it's their first DnD campaign ever, for others it's laziness.

Taliesin is pretty good when it comes to remembering the rules and DCs for his class, and Travis tends to get most of his things done quickly too (his current biggest mistakes are forgetting that he gets an extra d4 when Enlarged and sometimes forgetting about Retaliation).

>>53597164
Depends what you expect from the game. Goblin or Orc is normally the go to when I don't know what to expect

>>53597124
I was thinking about giving them a Levitate flavoured as "cloud walking" but I'm wary about the balance of that.

>>53597210
It's for the Storm King's Thunder season of the Adventurer's League. I think i'll pick draconic.

>>53597214
Could do a misty step thing, or ability to cast fog cloud per short/long rest.

>>53597267
You think it would be broken to be able to cast Fog Cloud 1/day and have the passive Ability to literally walk on clouds?

I'll be playing a Bladesinger, should i dump str or cha? I don't wanna be a complete sissy when it comes to strength, but i also don't like the idea of having negative charisma.

>>53597297
Personally not really

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How do people find the new Revised Kensei? I was thinking of picking it up but not sure how it plays and what long range weapon to use.

>the dwarf

She should've kept the outfit on

>>53597348
>not wanting a 7/10 Indian gf
pleb

>>53597369
>Indians
>even registering on the scale

>>53597379
Indians shit on the scale, poo/10

>>53597297
Give em Skywrite or something. Some shite about how their race communicated from mountaintop to mountaintop. Bit of flavour and too situational to cause shouts of OP.

>>53597204
Yes Talisen is really good at self correcting, especially metagaming he'll say something then turn around and realize "oh I wouldn't know that never mind."

Travis I feel for, the man is smart as fuck but his character is dumb as a box of rocks and he sticks to role-playing that. I hope the next campaign he gets someone even semi intelligent.

>>53597347
new kensai rule, they're definitely dps monks.

>>53597369
>7/10

Pajeet please go and poo in loo.

>>53597204
>>53597414
Taliesin and Liam have been playing since they were in high school so they generally have a better grasp of rules. I think all the other players were totally new before they started their game.

>the dwarf is an improv comedian
This concerns me

>>53597379
>>53597391
>>53597430
>t. Hussain Mohammedzai

>>53597420
Yeah I never played monk before so it looks like a good change of pace. Running around the field will be a lot more fun then standing next to the enemy and swing like a mad man.

>>53597448
I thought it was Taliesin and Matt that had been playing since high school or college, and that Sam and Liam had played once or twice as high school kids but dropped the hobby upon getting into college.

>>53597204
Who is the worst with rules?

>>53597498
I haven't watched much. From what I'd seen Liam said he had played in high school but you may be right about him not having played for a while. Also, I think Taliesin had mostly played Vampire: the Masquerade.

Is this one Zack or Cody?

>>53597466
Are you under the impression that only hate pakis hate you pakis? You all smell and you're exactly as creepy as the mohammadens.

How would /tg/ fix the Mystic?

>>53597509
Marisha, not even close.

Laura tends to forget about Hunter's Mark and Sneak Attack die, Sam never attacks so he tends to forget his attack modifiers and save DCs, and Liam mixes up Uncanny Dodge and Evasion.

Who picked these lineups?
>we want the Zach and Cody audience

I guess that confirms Phoenix Sorc for being in the new book.

>>53597532
Reading on it haven't watched yet- guy's real name is Taliesin, char's name is Percy, that's like, an obvious joke among the Critical Community, right?

>>53597606
By in large, the CR community just says Percy for Taliesin's character, because his full name is a mouthful, and one that Taliesin picked to be more of a joke/challenge for him and Matt to say in full.

If memory serves, Taliesin is from Australia and his family moved to the US when he was like 8 or 9 years old, and still has relatives living in Australia.

>live music for a D&D campaign
This is way cooler than it should be.

>>53597663
Imagine if he was playing in the game as a bard at the same time.

>>53597663
WotC has figured out that the best way to appeal to folks is not to try and spam sourcebooks but to release internet stuff showing peoole playing just to build hype.

"Your group has a live Piano player playing music to suit the tone right anon?"

>>53597347
>how it plays
At its core, Kensei essentially trades utility for power and defense, but it burns out faster.

Kensei allows you to use a d10 versatile weapon for damage, but that only upgrades from the d8 any monk could use. However, the Kensei's weapons are considered magical where a typical monk only gets unarmed magical attacks. In addition, the kensei can mini-smite (add MA die for 1 ki point), which results in more reliable damage than Flurry of Blows (since you can activate it after you hit), but slightly less raw damage (no dex bonus you'd get with the unarmed hit, but the attack can miss). Alternately, you can mini-nova by using both in one round.

The +2 AC feature allows you to keep your AC competitive until higher levels when your ASIs catch your AC up, but the damage loss isn't too big anyway (only 1d10 -> 1d6 or 8). Then you can stay in melee where you couldn't before.

Sharpen the Blade is quite strong as well. Paladins may get 1d8 damage per hit, which is average 4.5 damage, but they don't get a +3 bonus to hit.

This may or may not be the ultimate monk melee machine people imagine, but it's definitely a more capable martial monk as opposed to an Open Hand controller/skirmisher.

As to ranged weapons; if you want a full-ranged monk, just go Longbow and be done with it; Crossbow Expert wouldn't increase your damage since Heavy Xbow doesn't qualify and you are already using your bonus action for more damage anyway, so you couldn't make use of hand xbows. If you're a melee Kensei, darts are fine. Your MA damage will improve their damage.

>>53597663
It sounds like he's playing the shrine music from Breath of the Wild for a combat encounter.

Then again, he just has an electric piano to work with, not a lot you can get done with that for variety's sake.

>>53597448
>>53597498
I think they started because Liam wanted them to play a game for his birthday one year.

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>>53597695
Thanks for the info anon! I was thinking on going half range and melee. I am looking at the weapon list and might ask DM to Re fluff Hand Axes as Chakram's.

>>53597695
Does Sharpen the Blade stack with +1/2/3 weapons?

What's the point of a longsword as an example of a bladesinger weapon when the longsword doesn't have finesse?

>>53597686
I think WotC's plan with all the online UA stuff is that they want it to be playtested by the public before it gets put into a book, because WotC realized they could farm out QA for (mostly) free because of how 5e got designed and balanced prior to it's release.

As we now know, they've been taking the feedback and balancing it more so they can put it out in a book like Xanathar's.

>>53597792
Tears of impotent rage.

>>53597695
>melee Kensei
Don't you get one ranged weapon and one melee?

>>53597825
Hopefully they actually take the feedback instead of just Mearls shaking his head "no nothing wrong publish it."

>>53597825
>WotC realized they could farm out QA for (mostly) free because of how 5e got designed and balanced prior to it's release.
They have hundreds of NDA'd private playtesters that test stuff out behind the scenes. The public playtest stuff is mostly to get feedback on what the public responds well to, not necessarily specific mechanical changes.

What if they actually add nuclear druid

>the cat puns

I laughed harder than I should have

>>53597827
The longsword really should be finesse, in the Forgotten Realms Bladesingers use longswords and not fucking rapiers or something.

>>53597967
Personally I try to work with players, I don't see a huge problem with letting a character use Dex for a long sword.

>>53597967
Just roll attributes and get 18 int dex and str

>Allow a player to make a Lore Master wizard because hey, I haven't seen one in play before.
>Near-constantly throws out 8d6+2d10 Force-based fireballs
>Bitches at me when I let the Bronze Dragon Sorcerer change his damage spells to lightning.
>Wears this smug grin when he turns Hold Person into a strength save against a lone but powerful enemy.
>Complains when one enemy does it to him and his party members can't break her concentration.

Why are Lore Masters such degenerates, /5eg/?

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>>53597967
>Elven weapon training gives you proficiency with a longsword
>Elf-folk are known for being dexterous, spry little buggers
>Strength only weapon
>Make an Elven fighter with a lousy scimitar and shield instead of a longsword and shield
>???
>More tears of impotent rage
Every time.

>>53597996
>>53598009
That doesn't work for AL, tho.

>>53598018
Because it's the power gamer's wet dream

>>53598033
True, but I don't play AL because fuck that, so take a rapier.

>>53597170
They sound like the Wind Dukes of Aaqa.

>>53598028
I had never even thought about that, wow. They really fucked up a lot of stuff in this edition.

>>53598028
>take a rapier
>say its a finesse one handed saber/longsword/whatever
>"ok"

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>>53598089
You can either use a shortsword (lame) or a scimitar (snoozeville).

I just want a cute wood elf with 20 Dex and 8 Strength doing the good ol' elven sword'n'board.

Is that so much to ask for?

>>53598107
>just pretend that this rapier is a longsword anon
Disgusting.

>>53598085
They'd also be very Lawful, but I hadn't really planned much of a connection.
Might have made one if they weren't supposed to be so isolationist.

>>53598138
Just use a rapier unfluffed.

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>>53598174
>using a rapier with a shield
>ever
Absolutely degenerate.

>>53598187
>I've never heard of bucklers

???

This game on the stream is shit. Worse than the non-perkins/mearls games from yesterday

>>53598174
>>53598107
> Lol dude just remember to tell the other players that your weapon is actually a longsword all the fucking time.

Nah, it's also confusing for the DM.

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>>53598230
>just pretend that this rapier is a longsword
>just pretend that this buckler is a shield
!!!!!!!

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>>53598187
>He hasn't heard of bucklers

What a basic bitch

>>53598240
No, it's not.

>>53598238
I think its fun, the first one to really have the tomb-robbing/archeologist theme.
And Humes is doing a decent job.

>>53598250

>a Buckler is not a
shield
SHēld/Submit
noun
1.
a broad piece of metal or another suitable material, held by straps or a handle attached on one side, used as a protection against blows or missiles.

???

Also I suggested the unfluffed rapier, not pretending it's a longsword.

>>53597830

You do, but it's not especially easy to switch between them at a moment's notice. If you're focusing your efforts on melee, it's better to grab Darts to throw as your weapons so you don't have to sheathe your weapon.

Then again, the problem can go away at level 6 if you pick [versatile d10], darts, and Longbow as your three weapons.

>>53597787
Just be careful because the text says you get to pick a melee weapon and a ranged weapon; the handaxe counts as the former.

>>53597789
The way it's written, yes.

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>>53598254
I wanted a shield and a longsword with a Dex-based fighter elf.

I didn't ask for a french halfling twirling a baguette with a cutting board strapped to his forearm.

>>53598250
>buck·ler

>noun historical

>a small, round shield held by a handle or worn on the forearm.

>>53598240
How often does the DM ask what weapon you are using?