/srg/ - Shadowrun General

>>53571955
I'm currently thinking about making an ex-bunruku puppet, so she has absolutely no sex drive whatsoever. Probably a bit hard to enjoy it after that experience. I suppose her sexual deviancy is celibacy.

Any ideas on what qualities/augmentations I should give her?

>>53572174
Huge boobs and wide, soft hips.

Body built for sex and arousal being used for gratuitous murder.

>>53572174
what kind of character do you want to make?

>>53572174
>I'm currently thinking about making an ex-bunruku puppet, so she has absolutely no sex drive whatsoever. Probably a bit hard to enjoy it after that experience.
Dead Emotion: Libido. Working day in, day out, with a jacked up artificial libido will burn something out of you, sure.

>>53572189
Not necessarily the only body type you can go for with a bunraku.
Mine was modelled to be a loli, after all.

>>53571955
My character abused waifu BTLs to the point he can no longer feel romantic or physical attraction to 3d pigs.

He's not a happy person.

>>53572746
That's some Tharan Cedrax-tier AI hologirl-need you've got going there.

>>53571955
Character is a repressed homosexual from the Russian police so it's always great to have the GM describe female NPCs just for him to go "Heh" and stick with the more male-looking female NPCs.

That orc butt hmm hmm.

>>53572476
A decker. She already has headware, what's a few more bits?

I would make her a face instead, but I find it hard to resist making a mage if I'm bumping charisma.

>>53555163
Gonna do this, plus a 30% upcharge in nuyen and Essence and to allow it to transform from a really fucking big arm (character is a troll) to a really fucking Big O arm (shield, no piston, implanted shotgun). Functions as an Extreme Cyberweapon with a few caveats: is effectively a pile bunker, uses shotgun blanks to fire, six shot removable cylinder is stored on the character's person and inserted after transformation, secondary function uses standard shotgun rounds and counts as a Roomsweeper. Only functions while transformed, borderline impossible to conceal while transformed, only slightly sneakier while in the default state.

Not sure how the shield will work, probably just going to have it provide extra armor to the arm (always) and chest (while deployed). It's probably OP, but it's cool and will make the players happy. It also lets me really fuck with them later since a massive troll with a giant robot arm is pretty unique and memorable.

Opinions?

>>53571955
He has a wife that is way too good for him. She's a para-zoologist and he's an ex-drug smuggler turned prison hitman who got released because his brother pulled strings. He's fairly certain that he's a tax write off, and only sees her a handful of times a year. He really doesn't know if it's loveless or not.

>>53573714

I hate it, but I'm a jaded bitter fuck so what do I know?

>>53573714
Does the guy have to have the shield and the piston-fist in the same arm? Seems like it would be easier to do it as two limbs - one with lots of extra armour to be the shield, and one with the Extreme cyber-weapon.

Just thinking of the practicality of it in terms of SR technology - we don't have hammerspace, and he may want some capacity in the limb for boosting the stats/etc. Plus it will allow him to punch and shield at the same time, and if he wants to do melee he'll need the armour.

Side note, the rules don't work well for armouring specific body parts. You might say something like "it grants an additional box to the Physical Monitor in addition to the cyberlimb bonus box, and when deployed it adds +4 armour as per the Ares Briefcase Shield."

>>53573714
Have the Shotgun be a retooled Grenade Launcher. The Cyberarm itself is a prototype Military and Law Enforcement Cyberlimb designed for Riots and Street Fighting.

Just have the Shield act as the +3 Armor and when its deployed it also acts a shield for portable cover. The Arm can't deploy the shield and ready the Shotgun at the same time.

>>53571955
>How does your character fulfill the primal urge?

Mostly the same as >>53572746 except he's more or less okay with himself. He's had sex with one physical woman in his life and it was pretty disappointing compared to the brain-melting neural stimulation of running Hotsim with almost all the add-ons and doodads in cybercombat against corporate Black IC.

>>53574514
>>53574489
It's designed to emulate the Big O and it's finishing attack. When stowed, it'll be kinda ungainly and have massive forearms. It's always obviously a weapon. It's like open carrying an Uzi: legal (provided you have your paperwork and such in order) but makes people uncomfortable and probably scared.

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>>53571955

Can someone explain what exactly an icon is?
All I understand is that it can be any kind of usable object in the matrix but that seems too simple.

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>>53574972
>ribbed sweater
>huge tits
>thick thighs
>curvy
nice

>>53574911
I get that. I mean more that at a certain point you should consider compromising for the sake of the rules of SR, unless you want to write up a hit location chart and watch your player walk grinning into a fight, start slowly across a room (trolls having shit speed, better have skates or skimmers) and get shot to death. while he tries to decide whether he wants a shield, a piston-fist or a shotgun.

>>53574972
10/10

>>53575038
I thought SR5 did a good job of explaining it. An icon is a symbol of any matrix object which generally depicts its roll or function. To prevent visual clutter most icons are folded into PANs and WANs, except for dangerous things like firearms.

They're like floating AR pogs that show off that someone owns the latest line of Mortimer of London suit and coat.

>>53571955
>And never, ever fuck a dragon
I don't think you know where you are, OP.

>>53574788
Real women are filthy disease-ridden pig whores, why have that when you've got a waifu.

>>53574972
>those MENACING thighs
Nice.

Working on a hack of Anarchy to remove the overly narrative focused bits while still keeping the general streamlining. My players are chomping at the bit to start the game but I'd rather have the system and a few runs under my belt before junping in.

Would there be any big negatives to changing some of the Matrix actions from a Complex action to Simple actions

>>53571955
>How does your character fulfil the primal urge?
She works at a 'full service' maid cafe when not running, and meets party members for hookups between runs.

>What fetishes do they have?
Exhibitionism, kemonomimi, big troll dick, lolis, and molesting innocent virgins to get them hooked on fluffy tail.

>>53578052
Depends which actions you want to change.
The mark gain actions (hack on the fly/bruteforce) would probably break it, since you can get marks in half the time then.
Changing control device [complex] to a simple action is obviously broken.

All the other matrix actions … I'd leave it the way it is. Then again: What do I know, I'm still a newbie to shadowrun GMing.

Elves have a second set of ovaries that only open when in the presence of orks. It's true, I saw it on the matrix.

>>53578052
Matrix PER should already be a simple action and so should any of the non-illegal (using sleaze/attack) actions honestly because they're all relatively benign

If I can command my agent/sprite to do something in a simple why can't I do it in a simple?

>>53578052
Changing the mark placing skills can be handy because it turns some of the routine hacking actions into one action phase ordeals. Currently I have it set at my table that matrix actions with some exceptions (including Control Device) are simple actions. It hasn't changed much yet because we aren't matrix heavy.

>>53571955
My character went through an awakening which stunted her growth, and she never got through puberty. As a little girl, she's curious but doesn't really have a sex drive.

>>53579597
>tfw a gnome
>37 and drowning in shota fetishist pucci

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>>53571955
How do I make a vaporwave NPC?

My character is the meanings to thing in the Seattle orc underground.

Figure he wanders over to a bar and asks the most attractive troll there to bang

>>53571955
What do you reckon is the trending fetishes in the 6th world chummers? How deep does cybersex go? And if a dragon wants to fuck, do you *really* have a choice?

>>53579945
>My character is the meanings to thing in the Seattle orc underground.
What does that even mean?

>>53580737
He's roleplaying as his Troll with 1 CHA and 1 LOG.

>>53580013
>What do you reckon is the trending fetishes in the 6th world chummers?
>interracial porn
(with all the metahumans around it think that i a given)
>amputee/wareporn
Wouldn't surprise me if that was a lot more prevalent too.
Dunno if there is any way to inject magic into pornography, I guess that would be a thing too.
Adepts specializing in dick fu

Dunno. With biosculpting what it is I could see a flourishing market for look alike celebrity porn.I imagine Bunraku stuff is just the most extreme way people indulge in that particular fetish.

And judging by the way porn developed irl from the 80s till now I'd expect things just to get more extreme in general.
The kind of porn that makes you go 'why?', while you absentmindedly stroke your dick, before deleting it in shame after you've finished.

>>53580837
>Dunno if there is any way to inject magic into pornography

Control Emotions/Thoughts/Actions have (hopefully consenting) chicks and dudes sign up to be hypnotised. Maybe some sort of cam show where viewers can relay instructions to the magician.
Levitation and magic hands for bondage and groping.
Invisible lovers, maybe even some sort of game where the chick has to guess who's fucking here or run of the mill public play.
Forced orgasm with the titular spell.
Mass animate object, like Sorcerer's Apprentice but with fucking.
Petrify and turn to goo for some really niche fetishes.

Then there's summoning. Run of the mill spirits may not be fans but there might be some curious free spirits out there.
Beast spirits for some technically legal zoophilia with really exotic "animals."
Slippery water spirits.
Plant spirits for Evil Dead fans.
Not to forget possession and all that entails.

>>53580013
Pornoware. Like a cyberarm with an onahole instead of a hand, or biowared dicks and vaginas.
Rare meta-variants would be sought after. Hot centaur-on-elf action!
Vampires are a common theme in cheap BTL simporn.

>>53581223
Wow, you seem to have put a lot of thought into that.
Nice post.

You perv.
I'm fascinated by the idea of Troll women myself.

https://twitter.com/shadowrunporn
For anyone who forgot this existed

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>>53581417
I don't know what I expected.

>>53581223
>https://twitter.com/shadowrunporn

Pornomancy is a thing in Shadowrun, regardless if it is canon or not.

>>53581417
I totally forgot that existed.

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>>53571955
He's too goddamn old and grumpy to give two shits about fucking, his wife passed away years ago, the American Dream before he was even born. Fucking nosy ass prick kids asking about his personal life, trying to get him to open up. Buncha trogs too. Hate working with Trogs. You little shits don't remember the riots, *I* remember the riots. Fucking Confederacy wasn't right, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of innocent people got hurt and killed by Trog 'civil disobedience'. And get the fuck off my lawn.

>>53581417
>A forgettable porno titled Troll Virgins Banged By Horny Cyclops
>forgettable

>>53581549
There's no actual cyclops in it of course

Just a troll wearing a blindfold with a glue on googly eye on his forehead

>>53581549
Yeah well
>A well made porno titled Troll Virgins Gangbanged By Randy Giants

Forgettable by comparison

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How do I make an adept into Sub-Zero?

>>53581667
Probably a mysad

>>53581667
Cold damage kinda sucks in SR. Magical acid sucks in comparison with mundane acid. Electricity and fire is where it's at.

Okay /srg/ I have a situation and I'd like to get some advice
>GM 4e
>Players are a Druid Mage, Vory Sammy and Copperfield-Expy Face
>playing in the AGS
>Run is to check out some villa, find out the security, document it and also take some data from an internal server
>I previously established that in the last ~2 months a lot of foci were stolen, after a lot of them found their way to their fixer and he asked the druid to assense them. They were foci of various traditions, including a high force black magic focus
>Druid asks whether that villa is one of the victims, I say yes
>She Astrally Projects, flies to it, wants to find out if the owner is a black magician
>I describe it being warded with multiple spirits flying around, some further away, some closer to it
>she sneaks to one of the outer ones, stays undetected, assenses it and sees that the summoner was most likely Chaos Mage
>She wants to assense one of the closer ones
>she gets one hit
>the spirit gets 5
>Spirit attacks her, she wants to kill it to prevent the summoner to know that shit
>summons her own spirit
>It gets fucking rekt
>spirit goes first, attacks her, she barely manages to get away
>but now the spirit (and the summoner) know her astral signature

My question is: Will they always try to trace them back immediately, or could they say
>"well, they didn't start shit and we are just here for one event. We'll just tell the rest of security to be cautious of astral stuff for a while"
?

>>53582963
Simple, are they hired security or hired security + wetwork?

That's all there is to it. If they're just there to make people fuck off, then no. If their job is to make people fuck off and if they don't, kill them and everybody they were with, then yeah, probably.

Remember, if something legal gets stolen, shit gets reported to Lone Star or any other police force and then they deal with it. If it's illegal or secretive, then you'll start seeing hit squads and HTR.

Remind me, what is the Sensor Rating for in a Drone? It serves as limit to tests regarding it's perception, and that's it, right?

>>53571955
>How does your character fulfill the primal urge?
His waifu. He's not chaste by any sense of the word, but he's got a real traditional sense of relationships, something odd on a world like that, bit he accepts he's an odd duck in that regard
>What fetishes do they have?
Large tits, tall women (little bit of my magical realm) gentle femdom, foodplay (the characters stuff which I don't care much for RL)

But it doesn't get touched on much in the sessions, since my character is reluctant to speak much on the subject due to his old school manners involving relationships

>>53583274
ok that's reassuring
and no, it's not that the players had stolen anything
Basically the situation is this:
>1.5 months ago someone broke into that house and stole some stuff, including some foci
>owner of the villa called the Star, they investigated it
>this week the druid was called to assense some foci that the fixer had gotten
>currently there is some spring festival in the villa, which is why the security was upped with external forces, including some summoners
>player managed to evade and assense one spirit, but was caught by the other
>otherwise harmed no spirit, only summoned one spirit to distract the enemy one, fled when her spirit was rekt

so yeah, I'll probably just have the security be more on their toes for the next week but not try to trace and geek her

Thanks chummer

>>53583394
>foodplay
so what, eating from the body?

Shadowrun newbie here. What kind of dice pools are typically used for primary/secondary kinds of skills?

For example, if I am a a big troll gangbanger, what am I expected to take in stealth and various charisma skills (I guess etiquette and con?), and what am I expected to take in my various facepunch skills?

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>>53584097
12+ for your main combat
10/8 for other considerations. Much lower than that isn't really worthwhile.

>>53584097
Depends what kind of chargen rules you have.
Broadly, your primary role (Like, shooting things) should have anywhere from 14 to 20 dice, with 16 a good benchmark for dedicated role competence. Secondary skills (like, your talking if you're not the face) should be at 9-12.

>>53584097
Stealth, etiquette, and gymnastics are usually worth taking at least one point in, just so can avoid defaulting. You will have to make one of those rolls eventually, so you should have enough to not embarass your team.

Thoughts on a monowhip as a secondary weapon? I'm looking for a melee option for my elf street sam.

>>53584775
It's a good fit if you're doing a high AGI low STR build and are willing to invest in the required exotic weapon skill. Get the highest grade fingertip compartment you can find and stick it inside.

>>53584775
If you're willing to put points into unarmed, you can do neat things with martial artsl

>>53571955
>giant troll bewbs
good taste
>symmetrical troll bewbs
sadly not canon anon

>>53584775
Downsides to the monowhip are that it is lethal and illegal as fuck, and it's not a versatile skill.

All the other close combat choices have non-lethal options (especially with martial arts), and Clubs and Unarmed have options that don't rely on STR.

A Shock Hand is super useful. It doesn't rely on strength, can be combined with handy martial arts techniques, and no one is going to bat an eye at it.

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>>53584775

Unarmed has a huge amount of options. Shock gloves are a blast and they tend to be very effective, even against drones/electronics. Hard Targets added Plasteel Toe Boots, which will turn your kicks into lethal damage instead of just stun. I mostly like them for fluff purposes though.

>>53585078
>>53585216
Isn't the 8S stun hands kind of wimpy compared to the 13P -8 AV murder machine? I can't see how martial arts can make up for that.

On an unrelated note, are Active Hardwires a good option for picking up extra skills? 0.3 essence and 24000 nuyen seems like a low low cost to be able to access a whole new skill.

>>53584959
Augmentation, what are you even
>inb4 some purist bullshit

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>>53585461

Sounds like you already made up your mind, but consider the following:

Can't be disarmed, vs can be disarmed
Has Specializations vs Is an exotic skill
8S(e) -5 AP and options for adding strength vs 12P -8 AP with no further improvements
Legal vs Super Illegal
Is masculine, like Bruce Lee vs You twirl around like a Rhythmic Gymnast
If you glitch you look foolish vs if you glitch you fucking kill yourself

Either is fine, both are fun. Mono Whip is a shitton better than clubs, and better than blades. Chainsaws are also a blast. Pick what you want buddy

>>53585821
Is making a character who's primary weapon is a chainsaw viable?

>>53585874
iirc there aren't really any good chainsaw's around.
Seems like a waste from a mechanical pov.
From a backgorun pov it sounds like a fun concept though.

>>53586007
It just peaked my interest because I'm currently making an adept whose whole shtick is overkill to the max. I was planning on going automatics and having an MG with a grenade launcher, but a chainsaw might be more fun. Mechanically best isn't really that important to me so long as it's not literally a detriment.

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>>53585874

Depends on how you define viable. Its about as subtle as a heavy weapons specialization, but without being able to be far away. That said, with adept bullshit are augmented agility (Or both) you can definitely keep up with your team unless they're super into powergaming or your GM is a murderous prick.

So, pink mohawk yes, Black Trench coat no.

Your GM might give you Distinctive Style, so consider taking it anyways.

>>53586007
There's one in run and gun that's on par with the mono-whip. (Ash arms mono chainsaw)

>>53586111
>adept bullshit or augmented agility (Or both)

Burnout Adept with monofilament chainsaw? Sounds terrifyingly awesome.

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Was hoping to find a general RP advice thread, but didn't find one. Figured this was likely the best spot to ask instead.

Looking into having a PC AI, shackled in that it is contained to its own system with no real ability to communicate without input from another PC until it has eventually learned enough about the party members to convince the other PC's to give it more access to more systems in their ship or home or phone or whatever to then classify it as unshackled.

Does anyone have resources or examples to look into for ideas on how to RP this? I have some rudimentary ideas, but I'd like to brush up on as much material as possible beforehand.

>>53585461
Shock Hand is 9s(e) and Shock Gloves are 8s(e). Everyone seems to forget for some reason

>>53583274
HTR is the police force; they're SWAT equivalents in the days when serious criminals can eat tanks and shit lightning.

Some of them (all of them probably) are involved in shady shit ethically speaking, but legally they operate aboveboard as the arms of their parent corp/gov

>>53586039
Piqued your interest. This is a gentleman's Manchurian animated trid forum.

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>>53588467
Well, now I feel like a savage.

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Here's a question for you cats: I'm playing a decker in a campaign right now, and not to toot my horn but I kick ass and wreck shop with nigh-impunity thanks to my Sleaze dice loving me and my GM's dice hating him constantly. I know he's getting sick of me casually bricking the known universe and wants to put the boots to me ganger-style if not splatter my magnificent noggin' all over someone's dinner tray at a soyburger dive with copious bullets, but he's more subtle than drive-by hit shenanigans just to be petty. What's the likelihood he'll hit me with something like CFD and what all could I do about it if he tries?

>>53588599
1) Tell him to not hate the player but the game. Take the dice rolls as they come and dont be salty about it.
2) Grab a specilized hunter-killer nanites that can stop CFD. Not Chrome Flesh ones. There are others that actually work.
3) Alternative is Techno with complex form that can extract the AI from the nanites
4) Do a deep matrix dive and destroy the AI yourself
5) Become infected

>>53588599
>What's the likelihood he'll hit me with something like CFD
No idea.
>what all could I do about it if he tries?

Electricity & EMP will stun hard nanites. This will allow you to filter them from the subject.

Chemicals exist to kill soft nanites dead. No mess, no fuss.

Starvation kills nanites faster than the original strain can replicate without ingested materials. Nutrition spells will keep you alive.

The Boston strain clusters almost entirely around the brain, and only the brain nanites are contagious.

>>53588863
>2) Grab a specilized hunter-killer nanites that can stop CFD. Not Chrome Flesh ones. There are others that actually work.
Name the book.

>3) Alternative is Techno with complex form that can extract the AI from the nanites
IIRC, there were some hefty limitations on that.

>>53584097
O follow the rules of 3s

12 or as close as you can get for your primary skill. Ex. A street Sam and shooting guns, should be rolling 12d

9 for secondary shit, like Athletics, con, etc

6 for tertiary shit you only have for funsies, like if your character plays the guitar or was a chemical engineer in a former life.

If I wanted to play a fomori troll street sam what would be better bio or cyberwear?

On another note how would a pixie rigger work out?

>>53584959
>sadly not canon anon
What?

>>53571955
>how
Uh, I guess it's the standart hit-on-bar-patrons thing.
>fetishes
Tall, busty e̶l̶v̶e̶n̶ girls

>>53590023
I prefer bioware if I can afford it, just because it's easier on the Essence, but if you're strapped for cash go cyber and don't look back.

I don't know shit about pixies or riggers, sorry.

>>53590023
In my opinion, pixies aren't worth the drama. Don't bring them up on 4chan, just talk it over with your GM.

>>53590109
Thanks anon, just gotta figure out how to make this character and I should be good to go.

>>53590123
Not actually playing one, I'm trying to write a campaign and thought an npc pixie rigger who provides sniper fire and makes a suit of drones would be neat.

>>53588420
Which is why I said secretive as well. If you stole Aztechnologies brand new classified blood magic device that rips out adept veins for fun and profit, they'd probably send a team of highly trained badasses to come and kill you, rip out your adept's veins for laughs, and then retrieve the device.

>>53589446
>Name the book.
Now that I'm home
Lockdown, Page 201, A Cure For What Ails You, Overriders Nanites
And Bonus way to stop Nanites
The Pulse spell from Street Grimoire

>>53590910
Good catch on the Overriders, too bad they're not available for purchase (yet).

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Whats a good drug to dose my teammates up with in an emergency?

I'm defining emergency as "They've been shot and are dangerously close to overflow/being incapable of action"

I'd really like to figure out a way to temporarily give them the benefits of the pain inhibitor bioware

>>53571955
Guess she probably gets dolled up once a year and goes out to a bar to see who hits on her and how drunk she is and eventually goes over to someones place or a cheap hotel for a casual fling.
Shes pretty much all business and been all business for years.
Shes a Minotaur so shes like 400 pounds and 7-8 foot tall, While also having high str and bod and shes a shadowrunner always in control of her life...So I imagine her fetish is probably someone actually dominating her, Grabbing the bull by the horns figuratively...that kinda thing. I've not put enough thought into it to think of anything else they might be interested in.
Is it a common occurrence for you chummers?
I know its rather common in setting, But as roleplayers do you actually put that much thought into it?

>>53581417
A well made vanilla porno trid set in a corporate research facility starring no-one at all. (It's very deep).
...Hot

>>53591474
Talk to your DM, IIRC theres not actually /healing/ drugs you can autoinject really. Theres probably a drug or two that could be argued as having the effects of a pain inhibitor even if there aren't any in the books, And as long as your DM comes up with some decent drawbacks it wouldn't be too OP.

>>53591474
Saviour medkit nanites.

>When activated, the medkit injects enough nanites to last fve minutes into its subject. The savior then acts as a Rating 6 medkit and follows all the normal rules for medkits (p. 450, SR5). If the patient is bleeding out, the savior’s nanites act as a trauma control system (p. 148) for the duration.

>>53591971
>IIRC theres not actually /healing/ drugs you can autoinject really.
Immortal Flower.

>Theres probably a drug or two that could be argued as having the effects of a pain inhibitor even if there aren't any in the books
Lockdown has Numb. (bad side effects for filling a condition monitor, but better than dying) There should be something else just for stun track.

>>53590149
If you mean fluffwise, pixie riggers are a very weird concept. The race is secretive, lives innawoods without formal education, and could not use any tools sized for any other metatype, let alone cyberware. The odds of one learning enough to be a rigger are very slim.

How much capacity would a grapple gun take as installed/implanted gear? Probably about as much as a heavy pistol or machine pistol, right?

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>>53593371
There's a grapple hand in Chrome Flesh.

>>53593371
I'm confident the grapple gun actually has a capacity cost for being installed in gear or cyberware. Check Run and Gun.

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>>53593371
SR5, 445. Costs 0.5 Essence or 4 Capacity. Grapple Hand in Chrome Flesh is 0.45 or 10 Capacity, but is supposed to need a cyberlimb.

>>53591808
Almost never put that much thought into a concept. About the cleverest I go for is a large black man with a love for drones and guns and drones with guns, so I can make a Trigger Nigger Rigger.

>>53571955
Meditation, duh.

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>>53593574
Give him cyberlimbs with the bulk modification and he could be the Bigger Trigger Nigger Rigger.

>>53593574
make him a dwarf
Trigger Nigger Digger Rigger

>Captcha: Close Colon
We're not in prison with him though

So /srg/ I have a question. Are there any recommended guides for designing missions or heists in SR? I'm going to be running a Cyberpunk game shortly that while not explicitly SR, is thematically close enough that I figured I'd ask you guys.

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>>53593657
In the core rulebook, around page 330 off the top of my head.

One thing i've wondered is, did nukes stop working after the Awakening? Seems like we have a few incidents where they don't work properly in the timeline.

>>53593753
5e I'm guessing?

>>53593891
They stopped working as well.

Because when Mother Nature wants to stop pointless death and destruction... She stops the one thing capable of halting it.

The utter 80isms of Shadowrun is admittedly a charm point, but I hope nobody takes it that seriously.

>>53593891
They still work, just not properly - generally they are smaller than expected.

>>53593964
>The utter 80isms of Shadowrun is admittedly a charm point, but I hope nobody takes it that seriously.
It definitely has its charm, though sometimes I wonder what Shadowrun would look like if it had been thought of later and was mired more in the preconceptions of later periods. But then we probably wouldn't have gotten https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GPGQoR6f6w
Nuclear power plants still work?

>>53594000
>Nuclear power plants still work?
yes, but are risky
IIRC the only nuclear power plants still working are the ones in the SOX, because who cares if there is a meltdown in it

>>53594000
Power plants still work to the best of my knowledge. I think Shiawase still runs their entire grid off their personal nuclear plant. Can't remember the Almanac word for word.

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>>53593911
Ye

>>53593481
I don't think it is. At least, it's not on the table on page 87.

>>53593495
Ah, somehow I missed that. Assuming an armor installed version is the same capacity, that's unfortunately still too big to fit into a Forearm Guard like I wanted. Oh well.

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>You will never be Karl Kombatmage
Why even live?

>trying to make a troll in sum-to-ten

God save me. I'm shit at making a human in sum to ten, let alone this big 'requires A metatype' motherfucker.

>>53595162
Just accept taking B Metatype and having shit edge, omae.

What are you trying to build?

>>53595434
A Parkor Adept with horse mentor spirit
I'm starting to think I won't be able to do it on a troll, which is a shame since I thought it'd be a hilarious sight to see a 8 foot tall guy running on top of tree branches without them snapping

Y'all run any campaigns where you did not play shadowrunners? Got any stories to share?

>>53596146
There used to be a corpsec supplement a few editions back iirc.
Had everything you needed to play a security team i think.

>>53596146
saw a roll20 group that was doubling as musicians, thats about it.

>he's not still playing 2e

Come back to the golden ages anon.

>>53595493
Troll adepts are tricky. Sum to 10 is probably the best way to go about it, but you need to accept you'll have almost no edge and be poor as hell.

>>53596146
I played as a Shadowrider, does that count?

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>>53596146

>>53596902
depends, what the hell is a shadowrider. doing runs while mounted on an arabian?
>>53596984
>why haven't more people done this
Probably afraid of getting wet

>>53597064
Black ops lone star shadowrunners, basically.

>>53596146
Despite the fact that they consider themselves to be Shadowrunners, the players only ever did one job against a Corp, and that was so they could flip the Johnson to assist a burned CIA agent.

Their fixer went legit with the sheer amount of money that they got from doing jobs for organized crime and working with that CIA agent that he formed a PMC, invited the players, and are now doing legit mercenary work for the same, now re-established CIA agent.

>face created character with 17 dice in social skills
>he probably thinks he can bullshit out every situation
send help

>>53597779
Well, the definition of shadowrunners doesn't include them having to do work for/against corps
A shadowrunner is a deniable asset, not more not less. It doesn't matter whether you do work for Shiawase, the vory, goverment agencies or Miss Miller the elderly troll lady down the street

>>53597869
True, but everyone always associates it with Corps. We've probably done 20 sessions before that mission and they had this sort of strange realization that "Wow, we've never actually fucked with a Corp until right now."

>>53597954
well, my players are also at about 20 sessions and I haven't had them run against a corp directly
their runs so far:
>Break into a riverside storage and steal a object from a container (basically a milk run/test run)
>break into a bunraku parlor, rescue a puppet, delete the data off the servers
>wipe out a small gang
>counter steal some medical stuff from some gang and return it to their Street Doc
>gather some reagents
and currently
>break into a villa, document the security flaws and steal a file off an internal server

Mostly that is because they still haven't proven to be ready for a A or AA corp yet

How often do you allow/encounter the more "out there" metavariants, like Pixies, Centaurs or Sasquatches?

>>53598267
unless they are in an area where they are common? not at all

>>53598267
The only time I ever saw a pixie, it was the antimat rifle type.

>>53598267
My character tends to get around a bit more than a normal runner I think, so he's seen a fair share of metavariants. But they've always been more towards their usual hangouts

>>53595493
>A Parkor Adep
What are you trying to say?

Do you mean parkour?

>>53597836
Talk to him.

>>53598985
Not that guy, but I don't think he'd have put that many dice in if he expected to actually have to talk to anyone.

>>53599316
talk to him
tell him that he still has to actually roleplay
if he accepts it you can tone it down and focus on other stuff or keep it as long as he can do something aside from talking well

If he doesn't accept it? Kick him

>>53596146
ran a game of COPS. The players worked for Lone Star in collaboration with Horizon on a show. One of them was a reformed runner but most were just oddballs their precinct didn't want to deal with. The players were.
>An ork adept archer that was looking for his wife that was on the run
>a tired occult detective that had dug to deeply into cases one to many times and his bosses relegated him to a desk job
>an A.I. that was just born from a patrol car's autopilot. Became an idol.
>A shaman gun slinger. Despise the corps but his job lets him help the little guy so he takes the good with the bad.
>A vampire medic. Survived for 10 years on russian police force before getting infected. Found a job with Lone Star.

>>53599316
>>53599378
Him playing a completely minmaxed character is fine, if the player understands that you can't talk your way out of everything, and that the rest of the party is fine with carrying dead weight when the run doesn't involve socialising.

If he doesn't, though, it needs to be brought up preferably before session 1.

Anyone have any china-related art? Specifically trying to find cyber-cheongsam girls.

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>>53600306
I'll take it. You're diamonds, anon.

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>>53600212
not chinese, but fuck it

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>>53600212
Oddly enough...

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>>53600212

How would you fix dwarves to make them mechanically useful, /srg/?

So I just had my first shadowrun session as gm.
One thing that happened multiple times, the nartaki wants to use 4 pistols at the same time on the same target.
What would be the process for making that work?

>>53600955
Split their dicepool between all four pistols evenly, then reduce all offhand pools by 2.

>>53600955
>my first shadowrun session as gm.
>the nartaki
FULL RETARD ALERT

Also, they would split the dice pool between all 4 pistols, applying the off-hand modifier to 3 of them unless they take the ambidextrous quality which reduces that to 2 of them
So if they have a DP of 12 (without modifiers) they will fire one shot with 3+(Modifiers) dice and three with 1+(Modifiers) dice

>>53600955
AFAIK you can evenly divide your dicepool to make simultaneous attacks against different targets, but NOT against the same target.

So if he had a dicepool of 16 he could attack four guys with 4 dice, or two guys with 8 dice, or three guys with 5, 5, & 6 dice, etc. But he still can't make more than one attack against any single person in the same initiative pass.

How viable is a character that replaces both his legs and arms with cyberlimbs?

>>53601276
You can make it work. It's not effecient, but it's not the worst thing you could possibly do.

>>53600645
What's mechanically un-useful about them? A Dwarf rigger is goddamn terrifying.

>>53601295
Their generally intended niche is completely invalidated by the existance of orcs, really.

>>53601276
Very good mid-late game, an absolute abortion at 800 karma chargen.

>>53601294
It's also cool as fuck

>>53601276
depends on whether your GM allows the kraut rule, that if you have all limbs replaced you can use their stats for calculating limits, or not

>>53601323
It's pretty fucking rad.

>>53601320
Dwarfs get better social treatment, and it's easier to get them into cover. I'm not seeing a problem here.

GM here. Throwing my characters up against cyberzombies today. How easy is it to tell a cyberzombie is a cyberzombie with assensing or if they have synthetic limbs with natural perception?

Where the hell are the cyberzombie rules in 5e?

>>53601456
>How easy is it to tell a cyberzombie is a cyberzombie
They go 'braaaains' while munching on harddrives?

>>53594716
Who says you can't get some shitty armour, a weapon focus katana, and an ingram smartgun x?

>>53601456
just by looking? I'd guess pretty hard unless you have already seen them shrug off a tank shell like it was nothing

>Where the hell are the cyberzombie rules in 5e?
There are none. If you want rules, look in Augmentation (4e)

>>53600955
Sum the bullets fired, produce equal amounts of recoil, reduce defence by bullets fired -1.

>>53601493
IIRC a cyberzombie isn't a literal zombie, just a soul stapled to a 'body' crammed with ware. They have all the attendant psycosis but probably can exist outside of a deep dark dungeon without murdering everything right?

>>53600955
You can't
>>53601573 is wrong.
You can only make one attack per target in an initiative pass. If he's targeting multiple folks, you split the dicepool and add the off-hand penalty to the other three hands.

And you might want to explain the rules to your player a bit better, may have to kick him if he doesn't shape up.

>>53601580
Yeah, Cyberzombs aren't literal zombies. However, they do murder everything around them if not controlled.

>>53601632
>they do murder everything around them if not controlled.
that can be said of many non-cyberzombie sammies out there
in fact, in can be said of many runners out there

>>53601670
Mark of the not-too-long-to-live amateur. Many murders make a mess, and a mess brings Knight Errant through your windows and door in the wee hours of the morning with a No-Knock warrant and safeties off.

>>53601456
Read the Cyberzombie encounter in 2Ds Shadowrun story. Sets the tone for them really well.

>>53600955
>nartaki

Where's this campaign taking place? Depending on the year there might be less than 5000 in the whole world and most of them are in India.

If he doesn't die immediately he should be a huge liability though since most people will remember a golden goro looking motherfucker dual wielding dual pistols.

>>53601612
>You can only make one attack per target in an initiative pass.
RAW, you're only correct for anything that's not throwing weapons, and there's been no errata to change that.

>Multiple readied throwing weapons can be thrown at a target within Short or Medium range by adding a Multiple Attacks Free Action (see Multiple Attacks, p. 196).

>>53601573 isn't "wrong", so much as it's an interpretation of the rules, that fits within the rules. You can only attack one target once per initiative pass? That is using the existing rules to produce a single attack from multiple weapons. Reverse engineering "Not Enough Bullets", if you will.

Hardline No Fun Allowed rules bludgeoning is "wrong".

>>53601612
>If he's targeting multiple folks, you split the dicepool and add the off-hand penalty to the other three hands.
That's not how you split dice pools.

>The attacker’s dice pool is calculated with all modifiers (Wound, Environmental, Situational, and the full recoil of all attacks if it’s a ranged attack) and then split as evenly as possible between all attacks, and each attack is handled separately.

Calculate dice pool first (all bonuses and penalties), then split evenly.

>>53600955
Can't use firearms to attack the same target multiple times in the same initiative pass. He can split the dice pool evenly rounding down to attack 4 different targets if he wants. Don't forget to apply offhand penalties.

>>53602685
>What would be the process for making that work?

>>53602613
hmm, I was pretty sure that you first split, then apply dice pool modifiers
although that opens some questions: What if you have three of them be smartguns? Is your bonus +2, +6 or 0?

>>53602309
I remember a discussion a few months back that had the same meta-problem
yes, it is a useful houserule, one that is pretty logical and makes the game better
But we need to clarify that it is a house rule, not RAW. this is not meant as a value judgement (SR has a lot of house rules and NEEDS those) but as a way to make it clear that not every GM might use it.

>>53602685
>Have four guns
>Put them point-blank to a guys head
>Pull triggers
>Three guns either magically misfire perfectly, or your arms JERK themselves away from the guys head

>>53596146
Did one where they were CorpSec. They loved it, so we did one where they were all trying to get a movie studio off the ground. It was very fun for everyone, especially the bits where they had to stay relevant and famous so their upcoming movies would get a boost in attendance due to the players being in the news.

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>>53601456
With assensing? Very obvious. They're practically an Astral black hole. They have negative essence and cause their own background count. Awakened characters probably wouldn't even need to assense, they'd start feeling that something was wrong the second they walked into the room.

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Does Chummer support taking Mentor's Mask from Forbidden Arcana?

>>53603277
IIRC not yet, but yekka is working on it

>>53603277
No, but you can just write it on your sheet.

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>>53571955
>How does your character fulfill the primal urge?

She is currently enjoying the perks of having an ex-prostitute as a live-in girlfriend

>What fetishes do they have?

gif related. Its become sort of a running gag.

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>>53603331
>>53603323

Right on, thank you. Couldn't find it, FA is new, and I can't imagine its easy to add.

>>53602309
>>53602613
butthurt nartaki snowflake player detected.

>>53602818
>You don't because it's munchkinry and explicitly against the rules.

Or make up your own houserules for it. But asking how to make something work using rules that explicitly disallow it is borderline retarded.

>>53603277
Yes. There should be a checkbox on the Selct Mentor Spirit window. I haven't done anything to add a visual indicator beyond that, but the bonuses work.

>>53602866
>have savalette guardian
>point-blank to a guys head
>burst fire
>recoil pushes the 2nd and 3rd bullet off course -every- time
Sorry, chummer, it's in there as a balance consideration. If you have a helpless target like that it should be easy to convince your GM to let you coup de grâce and auto-kill them.

>>53603676
Noice. Have all the weird point buy issues been fixed, or should I stay with my old version for now?

With the wording of biocompatiblity, are datajacks and other 0.1 essence Augmentations now free essence wise?

>>53604248
No? I always read it as knocking off ten percent of essence cost, not ten percent of one essence.

Should make .1 ess augs cost .09 ess.

>>53604278
The quality says you round down to the nearest tenth of an essence point, which would make you round to zero. Fortunately, I can't find any errata saying otherwise.

>>53604317
You're fucking up basic math chummer. If you're rounding down to the nearest tenth, that means you look at the hundredth's digit.

.10 essence, zero means you don't have to round at all. .1 ess rounds to .1 ess.

>>53604398
We aren't looking at .10 essence, we are looking at 0.9 after the discount. This number would round down to zero, and as such would be free, unless there is an errata saying otherwise.

>>53604454
Sorry, fucked up, meant 0.09. Which rounds down to 0.

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>>53604248
Word of Freelancer dictates that it's supposed to be 'reduce the Grade multiplier by 0.1', but I guess when you're getting paid 4c a word you feel like you need to use more words than should be necessary.
>>53604093
I think so, there's still some odd stuff but it mostly seems to be under control. I haven't had a chance to run the debug menagerie through testing though.

>>53604469
Maybe, but CGL is still full of little fuckups like that. .09 doesn't round down though. Only .04 or less would. No essence free augs for you.

>>53604317
That quality (and the associated rounding down) applies to the grade modifier, exactly as stated in the example at the end of the text.
>e.g., the reduction for alphaware
>of 0.8 is reduced by ten percent, or 0.08, to
>become 0.72, and is rounded down to 0.7
Standard multiplier becomes 1.0x - 10% = 0.9x
Alphaware as in the example becomes 0.8x - 10% = 0.7x
Betaware becomes 0.7x - 10% = 0.6x
Delta becomes 0.5x - 10% = 0.4x

>>53604503
It says round down, not round to the nearest tenth.

>>53604485
Do you know where I can see this? Some actual confirmation on this issue would be nice.

>>53604549
It was a Wakshaani post from the Chrome Flesh release thread on Reddit. I think it's also on the official forums, but they're still down so I can't point you to the specific thread without google scraping.

>>53604549
Yeah, but you're still not gonna get free ware. We know the editing in 5E sucks, not our fault.

>>53604485
Hey yekka, is there a way to factor in wireless bonuses when calculating stats? For example, Wired Reflexes 2 and Reaction enhancers 3 are only adding the bonuses of the higher.

>>53604603
Yeah, just broadcast Chummer wirelessly and it should do it all automatically.

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>>53604603
Currently no. I haven't thought of a way to implement conditional bonuses in the improvement manager that I'm happy with. Once I get the current stuff with attributes and general databinding out of the way it'll be easier to implement.

Does Increase Reflexes affect all my initiatives (astral, cold/hot sim, etc) or just physical?

>>53604248
>>53604317
>fortunately

Just wanted to let you know that you're a minmaxing munchkin piece of shit exploiting CGL's incompetence. Neck yourself.

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>>53604469
>>53604454
>>53604317

Thats clearly not the intent, but you're encouraged to explain to your GM why you have a bunch of zero essence augmentations.

>>53604485
Martin Wong does some great cosplay photography. A lesson in how being good at your job will let you hang out with lots of hot chicks.

>>53582735
Cold damage only sucks if you ignore its utility. Base rules cold damage actually fucks with electronics a done.
If you have a rule of cool GM often times they'll let you do things like freeze liquid or make ice.
It also has the benefit that unless your in the Siberian tundra no ones gonna be packing cold resistant upgrades.

>>53606327
>Your decker will freeze before you reach the first marker!
>Fuck you, bub, thermal insulation! Imma hack your momma from space!

>>53606327
Base cold damage as on p 170 (pretend that's cut into less than half because there's a box over it) only mechanically causes armor to make a test. Any hit, fine. No hits, break. Glitch of any kind, it's an irreparable break in a dangerous way.

It mentions the other things but gives no support, so it's all down to fiat.

Now, that said, some of the cold spells are interesting. The direct one from Shadow Spells is Direct and also has an initative loss component, but the Drain is high, especially if you go for Witness My Hate. But that's what Reagents are for if you're not AoE-ing.

And Ice Storm is for when you need to cast two different spells, an AoE attack and Ice Sheet, on the same target area and don't want to either split your pool or take the likely overall higher drain of recklessly casting both spells at full pool.

So basically a very specialized get-away spell.

What should I read to get an idea of what life as a wage slave in one of the AAA corps is like? Specifically education and growing up.

>>53606974
"Brave New World" should give you the general idea, albeit a little too dystopian one.

>>53603789
Err ... no?

>AIMED BURST
>Complex Action
>This is an attack from a Burst Fire-capable weapon (not Semi-Auto Burst) fred in such a way to increase damage instead of making it harder to avoid. Since it is a Complex Action tracking Progressive Recoil becomes very important. The attack loses the –2 penalty to the defender but gains +1 DV. It costs the frer three rounds of ammunition.

>BRAIN BLASTER
>Complex Action
>Usually Full-Auto fre is designed to increase the chance to hit, not to put a lot of rounds in one place. This action focuses a Full-Auto Action into a tight little area and causes all sorts of pain and damage. Tracking Progressive Recoil becomes very important with this action. The attack gains +2 DV and costs the frer six rounds of ammunition.

>DOUBLE-TAP
>Complex Action
>A rapid pair of well-aimed shots from a Semi-Automatic-capable weapon fred in such a way to increase damage instead of making it harder to avoid. Tracking Progressive Recoil becomes very important with this Action. The attack gains +1DV and costs the frer two rounds of ammunition. There is no penalty to defensive rolls from this shot.

>>53604469
>0.09. Which rounds down
No, it rounds UP to 0.1

Why are you trying to RPG without basic numeracy?

>>53607913
Why are you trying to RPG without basic reading comprehension?

>>53607913
Not him, and I can't verify the veracity of his claims, but he's saying it says to round DOWN.

How important is party balance?
I've been gearing up to run my first game, and I've been talking to the players about what sort of runner they're interested in. It seems that most of them want to play some sort of magic user. Should I tell them to balance things a bit more, or should I just run some sort of Occult-CSI stuff?

Also, I told them no technomancers for the first game on y'all recommendation. Should I ban deckers too, and just use an NPC if they ever need one?

>In game terms, the Essence cost of implants of the particular chosen type are reduced by ten percent, rounded down to the tenth. This rebate is cumulative with the reduction offered by the chosen ’ware’s grade, if any (e.g., the reduction for alphaware of 0.8 is reduced by ten percent, or 0.08, to become 0.72, and is rounded down to 0.7).

The reduction from Biocompatibility is to lower the grade multiplier. When you reduce the multiplier for Alphaware (0.8 to 0.72), the multiplier is rounded down. (0.7)

If it were Betaware the result would be a multiplier of 0.6, while Deltaware would be 0.4. Used drops down to 1.1.

>>53608074
Thus, the result of Biocompatibility and a Datajack of Standard grade (1.0 to 0.9 multiplier) is a change from 0.1 Essence to 0.09 Essence.

>>53608064
If they're new players definitely ban deckers.

>>53608074
Deltaware rounds down to free, though, so you can use that.

>>53608064
It really depends on the depth the DM wants to put into their encounters. A mixed party is capable of facing just about anything and having a shot at beating it, regardless of its nature or occupation. I've never seen a party of all magic users, so I'm not sure how squishy they'd be against a Red Samurai strike team or whatever, but at the very least it opens up a range of possibilities for opposition like cabals of mages or toxic shamans.

Can someone explain the gameplay impact of essence to me?
I understand that it's something like your soul and with every bit of natural body you replace you lose some of your soul/essence and when you're down to 0 you're essentially dead.
But how does it factor into gameplay when it's over 0 but under 6?

>>53608239
Are you a mage or technomancer? It does not, with the exception of the Heal spell, it'll never come up in gameplay.
If you're a mage or technomancer, it reduces your MAG/RES stat by one for every point off for six you are. So say you have 6 magic and 5.7 essence - you pay for 6 magic and get 5 magic out because you're missing that .3 essence, putting you down from six by one.

>>53608064
If they want to play magic users, you have a grand opportunity to have an incredibly destructive high power level campaign with clashing cosmic forces utilizing apocalyptic rituals, where dragons are both allies and enemies with force 40 spirits massacring entire population centres.

Magic in Shadowrun is fucking nuts sometimes. Blood Magicians, Insect Shamans, Godlike Adepts crashing helicopters by throwing daggers at the rotors, people floating into the skies to throw 20 meter balls of disintegrating mana. Adepts getting their veins ripped out. It's awesome.

>>53608259
The character in question is mundane. So, that character will just be harder to heal using the heal spell?

>>53608189
No, it does not.

>>53608285
Yes.
If you are mundane, there is precisely 0 reasons not to have .01 essence. It even opens up some neat RP opportunities when you get over 5 points of essence loss.

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>>53608239
Limits how much cyberware you can stick in a mundane, especially at chargen where higher grades aren't available. Net result is having to upgrade the old ware before being able to cram any more into a character.

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>>53571955
>>53574972

How does instruction works exactly?
On the skill use it says it reduce time to rain a skill in days equal to the net hits. Which seems awesome for 1-4 ranks and completely useless beyond it.
But then before that in advancements chapter it says the instructor can reduce the training time by 25% so which one is it ?
And the tutorsoft? Can you use it like instructor? What is its limit? Can it reduce the time by 25% or net hits in days ?

Are Explosive and EX-Ex better in 1e-3e, where they're +1/2 to Power, and have Barrier rating fuckery and a possibility to explode, or in 4e-5e, where they're +X to DV, -X to AP?

>>53609867
Explosive rounds, obv.

>>53609877
he's asking about the editions, fucknugget

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>>53609217
Shame there's relatively so little good shadowrun stuff.
>Tfw you accidentally spill your yogurt

>>53610892
Indeed.
>>53595493
It's super easy.
Meta A
Attribs B
$$$ C
Magic D
Skills E

B7
A5(8)
R4
S9
W5
I4
L1
C1
E2
M6(5)

Get some skills and groups with karma and you're set.

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>>53609217

>>53606974

4th Edition's Corporate Guide has a section dedicated to exactly that.

Wasn't there a weapon called the Urban Assault in the SMG categories for Chummer? I can't find it anymore.

>>53612108
Are you thinking of the urban combat? Make sure to uncheck the hide items over avail limit box.

>>53612274
yup, I'm a moron.

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>>53610892

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>>53608181
If you're a little bitch who can't be bothered to learn a system no more complicated than combat, ban deckers.

>>53608239
There's a social limit penalty with it, but it can be offset with fancy clothes. Also the GM may start assigning negative qualities from Chrome Flesh that relate to having low Essence.

>>53608324
Until you run into one of several ways that your Essence can be drained and turn to dust. Also there's as much fun playing someone losing some Essence and dealing with not being quite human anymore as there is going full robot.

Are State Of The Art ADL stuff implemented in chummer yet?

>be mage
>buy fancy new suit of full body armour
>modded to shit with heaps of handy upgrades
>chemical seal so I don't get gassed again
>STR 1
>helmet puts me over armour encumbrance

Fug.
Any way I can get around this other than boosting my strength or "ask my GM"?

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>>53613080
Go back in time and slap yourself for being a dumpstatting little fag.

>>53613109
GM runs Sum To 8, and this is my first character ever.

>>53613124
Well, this is what you get
You are super secure
Too bad you can't do much
Better hope your teammates will carry you

>>53613109
>Cyberpunks
>Not "Cyber Samurais"
0/10

>>53613154
>too bad you can't do much
I mean, I can still operate pretty much just fine, since it doesn't impact my spellcasting, which is like 98% of what I do. I'd just rather not lose that 1 die on init and sneaking tests.

>>53613080
There's a steroid-esque drug in chrome flesh that raises STR by 1, you can pop it if you need to.

>>53613200
>complaining about 1 die
Get fucked, chummer. That's not even a non-problem. That's just nothing

>>53613216
Neat. Cheers for the heads up, chummer.

>>53613249
>getting this mad over a newbie asking for advice

>>53613080
Rollerskates and grab handles. Maybe a tow rope?

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Here's a free copy of Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut on GOG:

HSEZFDEA8A108B3AA0

Because /v/ is a bunch of fags.

If I submit a character with .01 essence (5.99 Cyber 1.0 Bio) and 53 armor how fast do you think my DM will smack me upside the head?

>>53613471
I went and redeemed it. Thanks.

>>53614188
depends on your Dodge
not your character's
YOURS
Also your GM might decide that the enemies just got a shipment of neurostun grenades

>>53614188
How the fuck do you people even get such ludicrous armor stats?

>>53614574
Full body cyberware+armor plating on all of it is 12 on its own.

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Rate my abomination in progress that I would never unleash on a DM

>>53615133
The PDF seems fucked
Maybe use an PDF Printer or if that also doesn't work post it in a pastebin

>>53613124
Why do you need chemsealed FBA in a Sum To 8 game?

>>53615323
Dunno, Never tried 'printing' from chummer, https://www.dropbox.com/s/lwfmyazocbi54lu/Dehumanize.chum5 heres the file though its not really worth the effort.

>>53615133
why do you have all your Vision ware mods outside your Cybereyes?

>>53615623
Harder to hack?
Cyber eyes are a single point of failure, hack them and you lose ALL vision.

If you get the vision augmentations implanted into the meat seperately, hacking one still leaves all other vision operational.

Totally random question, but I was wondering, has anyone ever tried to develop time travel technology in Shadowrun? Note empasis on try, I don't think anyone has succeded and it probably wouldn't fit the setting, but it's a mad scientist thing to attempt.

>>53616262
Well, technological time travel is as advanced as it is now: Not at all
Magically there are many attempts, but one of the rules of magic seems to be that you can't manipulate space-time

>>53616153
Once you get cybereyes, there is no longer any meat to implant a vision mod in.

>>53616330
That's not what those wacky metaplanar adventure tales told me.

I checked our folder and couldn't find it, do we have a pdf of Anarchy? I'd like to check it out before buying.

Alternatively, can anyone who has played it give me a rundown on the differences from the original?

>>53616674
it's in the Mediafire at least, in the 5e folder

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What's a good way to get armor? I've got 19 right now from a gelpack Armor Jacket, forearm guards, a helmet and Aluminum Bone Lacing. Unfortunatley, I only have .28 Essence left.
Any tips on what else to pick up? I need 2 hands free, so shields are a no.

>>53616674
It takes all the hopes of a rules-light Shadowrun (which would help make it more conducive to text games) and dashes them to pieces.

Just run that Blades in the Dark hack instead.

>>53616711
Got it, my shitty eyes must have missed it. Thanks man

>>53616716
Orthoskin?

>>53616732
>Just run that Blades in the Dark hack instead.

Just googled that, seems awesome, thanks for the tip.
I'll keep you guys updated if/when I manage to assemble a group for this.

>>53616716
How much strength have you got?

>>53616330
>Implying time travel isn't real today
Fucking sheeple

>>53617365
what? I ain't fucking no sheep OR sheeple! I ain't welsh!

>>53571955
uncropped version whirr?

>>53617462
I think that is uncropped.

>>53616770
Turns out I only have .24 essence left.

>>53617095
I only have 3, I'm making a high agility high reaction monowhip and rifle user.

>>53613080
10 karma.

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>>53613198
3/10 made me reply.

any advice for how to play a group of shadowrunners who haven't been able to afford a vehicle hard enough for the lifestyle yet?

I think between them the party currently have metro passes, a pickup truck with a camper shell, an electric scooter, and a bicycle between them.

nothing armored or fast, and the only thing with much space in it is also it's owner's house.

>>53608324
>>53612686
Honestly, most of the things that can take out your Essence can only do it in circumstances where you're not dead because they wanted to eat some essence.

The one exception I can think of is advanced alchemy products that grant Regeneration. Granted, that's a very expensive thing (IIRC they'd need to spend non-raw reagents to get to Potency 7, and that takes a bit) and you still have a regenerating person for a little while.

>>53617579
Why not just invest in motorcycles? They're cheap, and give you an excuse to wear armor everywhere.

>>53616716
Military-grade armour?

>>53617579
Steal one, or recruit someone with their own armoured rapevan.
My last group ended up stealing an unmarked van full of sex toys and drugs from some gang, and drove that around for a while. Don't think we got around to fencing the loot, either.
Or >>53617631, because biking is cool and you get to pretend to be a go-gang.

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>>53617498
If I remember correctly the best chargen armor combo is Sleeping Tiger Suit + Argentum Coat, both found in Run & Gun.
If your game has already started, you might want to save up for a Full Body Armor + Helmet + Forearm Guards, which combined with your Bone Lacing will put you at 21 armor.
The max you can acheive is with Heavy Security Armor + Helmet + Forearm Guard, for a total of 20+3+1+2= 26 armor. But if you want to run up close and personnal to dice people with that monowhip, this option might not suit you.

What kind of dodge and soak should I be aiming for with a combat focused character?

>>53618527
I would say not less than 16 dice at the bare minimum.

>>53618058
You can't stack Sleeping Tiger + Argentum Coat, they're from different lines.

>>53618688
The coat can be fitted to most things anon

For purposes of brand loyalty can you assume every megacorp likely produces any kind of item just some in less quantities than others?
Or is it mostly just guns you pay attention to?

How do vehicle mounted weapons work? When I check the vehicle list, I find all kinds of stats but nothing relating to weapons on vehicles even if there should be weapons mounted on the vehicle by default, like a turret or something.
Or am I just looking in the wrong book?

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>>53618745
Sadly I don't remember where, but one of the rulebooks mentions offbrand items and knock-offs. My instinct says check Run Faster?

>>53618527
Consider the average security guard.
Let's say he's got AGI 4 and Automatics 6. He is, after all, a professional. He is firing at you with an HK227. Suppose he took a Take Aim action.
His dicepool is 4(AGI) +6+1(Non-implanted Smartlink)+1. On those twelve dice, he should average 4 hits.
Therefore, your dodge pool should ideally over 12 dice, so you have a decent chance of dodging the shot altogether. If you want to feel safer, go for 16, but that might be hard to reach without Full Defense. Keep in mind that this is the guard firing 1 bullet, where he will usually go for short controlled bursts.

Now suppose the guard has 1 net hit on you. This SMG hits at 7P +1. To soak that damage, you would need 24 soak dice. Quite high, but definitely not out of reach.

You may argue that this is a simple low-level mook, an that kind of protection won't be enough if you are targetted by a Full Auto Ares Alpha with APDS rounds. And here's my advice to you: don't get into firefights with guys with ARES Alphas and APDS rounds.

>>53618688
Nothing says that peices from different lines can't stack, as long as they are modified by the same person. By that logic, Second Skin would not be able to fit with anything.

>>53618745
Depends on the items. Some guns and cyberdecks really are corp specific, but otherwise I would say that every corp produces variations of the same product.

HELP
My players want to go to mars! The fuck do I do? I don't really have anything I can do to prevent them from going without creating plotholes.

>>53618745
I'd say that with most common use stuff they should be available from every corp. After all if you have your own citizens you need your own tissues, soft-drinks, tools and other shit you usually need.
Guns wise I think that they tell you other models of similar guns, and that these are the only ones that really are on the market. So if you are Brand Loyal(Ares) and a gun does not have an ares alternative listed, then too bad for you.
Vehicle wise I think it's the same

>>53618846
space dragons

>>53618846
let them
let them come up with a way to be shipped to mars (That shit ain't easy)
role-play the entire 450-500 days
when they land (hope they have Pilot Aeronautics or a really good Pilot Program) show them the difficuilty of being in a hostile, alien world.

And then make them wake up and tell them that they are test subjects in a UV Node and they need to escape

>>53618846
Wait, your players have access to spacecraft? And the proper authorizations to leave the planet without getting shot down?

Actually a one-shot on Mars would be extremely fun. One of the bases there is supposed to be completely controlled by CFD headcases, could make a nice survival horror game. Kinda like System Shock

>>53618937
>Wait, your players have access to spacecraft? And the proper authorizations to leave the planet without getting shot down?
In short, yes. Since I'm fairly new to being gm, there were some plot points my players exploited and now I'm stuck with them wanting to visit mars.

>>53619057
>there were some plot points my players exploited
HOW IN ALL FUCK?

>>53619057
Activate the power of retconium.

>>53618852
>>53618821
>>53618816
What is your runners favorite food and what corp makes it and why isn't its Ares line of Freedom Fries made from Real Potatos™

>>53619102
Proteus fish sticks "Die mit dem Blubb"

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>>53617495
;___;

>>53619180
I hope there's spinach with it (otherwise you're seriously missing out on the blubb!)

>>53618846
There are SOOO many ways that can go wrong. Not only can you easily shut it down without reconning or creating plotholes, you can also use it as a plot hook. (i.e. Terrorists have kidnapped your spaceship. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue your spaceship?)

>>53618846
Even if they made it to mars, how would the game even continue from there?

>>53600446
A E S T H E T I C

>>53620408
Total Recall.

>>53620408
Space Dragons

>>53620453
You can't solve everything with space dragons

>>53620490
space dragons

>>53620490
Anon, I think you'll find that you can.

>>53618821
Second Skin is Zoe IIRC. CGL just fucked that part up.

>>53619588

Ooooh, Die Hard in space. Terrorists want to use your Ship as a Kinetic Weapon to kamikaze the Zurich Orbital.

If they Succeed, you Die Horribly.
If the Orbital sees you coming, you Die Horribly.

NEW THREAD
>>53621015
>>53621015

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>>53618821
>Nothing says that peices from different lines can't stack