Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1532: Veni, Vidi, Salui Edition

>>53565140
I Came, I Saw, I Jumped?

Just checking, but Remiu is shit waifu, right?

Any redeeming qualities, or just don't bother?

>>53565097
Okay, so assuming we bought the Horcrux with CP to avoid the whole soul-tearing muh-evil problem, in the event of dying how do you get your body back?

>>53565180
Gold star.

>>53565025 is this guy correct ->

>>53565097

>>53565205
Well, you could always possess some poor unfortunate soul until you can duplicate the ritual that voldemort used.

Or get some philosophers stone equivalent. Or maybe make a body yourself with some clarktech or other kind of magic?

>>53564913
A combination of Geneforge, Prototype, Vicissitude stuff that I tricked out of a Tzimisce in Vampire, general sci-fi superscience from several jumps
c some time dilation magitech that's a bit slapdash but works, and a small continent's worth of land that just continuously grows biomass to feed into everything. All of it set up in Disgaea's netherworld, which was merged with several other pocket dimensions for space concerns mostly.

The orphans mostly come from Black Bullet because I couldn't bear the thought of letting them go. Some are kids I rescued from various places where they would have otherwise died. A lot of the ghosts are actually children too, from the Generic Horror Jump. Basically I took that one Drawback that continuously sends creepy ghost kids to fuck with you, and just kept healing/binding their souls. A bit dangerous but it got the job done. So now they're my kids too. Most of the other ghosts are amalgamate spirits held together by curses that tear apart anything that seems too foreign.

And the mass murder and enslavement + eating souls + binding weaker souls into tortured wraiths + people that I didn't bother to lobotomize before turning them into sentient mechanisms for my meat grinders would probably be a good place to start on becoming a better person.

>>53565243
You wouldn't.

>>53565268
That depends on whether you want a How ya like me na perk or not.

>>53565293
Just make sure you offer the baby making factory and don't ask any questions.

>>53565314
Let the indoctrination begin.

I just have to import my Pokemon to give them human form right?

By the way how intelligent would you say a pokemon is?

>>53565340
It varies a lot. In the show most Pokemon seem almost as smart as humans, while in the games it tends to vary a lot more.

>>53565340
>By the way how intelligent would you say a pokemon is?
Are we using show or game intelligence. The show has them about as smart as humans with a similar range of intelligence more based on what kind of pokemon they are. The game has a much wider range, from animal like to smarter than people.

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>>53565314
I want a pack of Transforming Wolves. That shit made me laugh way too hard.

>>53565340
Yes. And it varies, so apply light fanwank.

>>53565340
Can't they only remember 4 moves, max?
That's a pretty fucking dumb animal.
A smart dog can learn dozens of tricks.

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>>53565191
Reimu is a great waifu for cuddles and armpit sex. Incredibly smart, attractive, lazy, kind of an asshole. Who wouldn't a Reimu?

>>53565314
No way am I going to try that. I may try to make a jump but I just thought it would be a nice thing to try. I haven't made a jump before so I won't claim it but I am going to try my hand later and might make something of it.

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>>53565340
Just make sure you give them time to grow up first

>>53565340
> you can import pokemon to make them people
you have shown me a whole new world

>>53565415
Save the middle one from despair, waifu her first.

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Jumpchain, why do birds fly?

>>53565400
>Armpit sex
...wat?

>>53565445
DON'T ASK!

>>53565444
Because walking is boring.

>>53565445
Oh you sweet summer child.

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>>53565450
I AM ASKING.

>>53565444
Because a volant lifestyle, despite having higher energy demands, also gives a creature the ability to cover a wider area in search of food and better ability to avoid predators. Flight capability has been independently evolved at least four times in Earth's history, so effective is it as an adaptation.

Could someone please post Marvel Magic? It doesn't seem to be on the drive.

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>>53565445
>>53565477
Reimu's costume excites some people for reasons most of us can't understand.

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>>53565477

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>>53565445
>>53565477
imagine pic related, but the targeted limb is MUCH smaller

>>53565450
But thou must.

>>53565477
Part of the fanon for Reimu is that she has really sexy armpits.

>>53565483
>Insects
>Birds
>Bats
What's the fourth?

>>53565512
Pteronodons.

>>53565517
Ah.

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>>53565445

>>53565485
...I mean I think those are nice shoulders but my mind goes to, like... rubbing them.

Not armpit sex.

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>>53565465
>>53565483
...I see. Then if that is your answer, this knowledge is not for you.

>>53561457
>>53561502
That reminds me, wasn’t Valeria working on a jump for the Witchblade anime?

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>>53565525

>>53565444
Because they missed the ground when they fell.

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>>53565247
>HP as first jump.
>Roll d100 for how my first day at school went: 1... _FML_.
>Bad news, killed by shifting stairs while rubbernecking.
>Good news, had bought a Horcrux, chain not over.
>Bad news, haven't learnt How To Possess Someone 101, never mind How To Make A New Body 403.
>Good news, still attending Hogwarts as a ghost.
>Bad news, can only read the books over someone's shoulder.
>Good news, Hermione takes pity on me.
>Bad news, Hermione takes pity on me.
>Good news, able to give not-Gandalf spoilers so Voldemort is ganked early.
>Bad news, not-Gandalf won't teach me HTMANB403 because only ritual known is Dark Magic.
...
>10 Years Later. New jump. FINALLY NEW BODY!
>Roll d100 for how my first day went. 1...
>Arghlbarghle.

>>53565252
Whoooa, that's way bigger than expected, impressive. And it's hidden in a pocket dimensions so it can conveniently be wherever you want.

Do you have any caretakers on hand to help you raise them all? Have some grown up and they're doing that? You also got a kind of steady income of more and more ghosts that may or may not be a potential threat, that's cool. I do love the sounds of these cursed amalgamate ghosts too

I mean yeah, you have a point there. Any particular reason you're looking to become a better person? Personal responsibilities, trying to set a good example for your waves of children?

>>53565569
What, you wanted some poetic nonsense about how birds desire the freedom of the sky or some shit like that? Nope, it's evolutionary advantage. They might get upset if denied their evolutionary advantage, most animals do, but it's not the reason they fly.

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>>53565525
> not having armpit hair

>>53565431
>you have shown me a whole new world
Yeah importing them gives them a human altform.

>>53565612
I don't think so. It'd be awesome if she was, but I don't think she is.

>>53565765
Or whatever else is the default body of that jump. I can think of a few where it would give them something else.

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>>53565444
Just like me, they long to be, close to you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inwzOooXRU
Close enough.

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I saw the Generic Cartoon Toon World jump in the drive as v1.0. I thought that was still in WIP? there were some comments I was going to make the next time it was posted.

>This perk and it’s associated Toon-discount-perks stays active as long as you are in a Toon body. After the jump you can switch to your “Toon” body or back at will. Your Toon body counts as an alt form in future jumps.
remove this since toon perks can be taken by non toons. And specify your toon ability can so applied to other forms you have. So if you have a Dragon form you can be come a toon dragon, if you have a Orc form you can become a toon Orc. Basically 'toon' is a modifier you can apply to all your forms to toonify them.

>Born a Toon
Shouldn't offer CP since death by old age shouldn't be an issue before the jump ends. Also should't shut off outside jump age manipulation abilities; there is no reason for it.

>Deadly Eraser (+400cp, can’t be taken if you have the “Eraser Immunity” perk)
unless the Eraser vulnerability goes away once the jump ends (which is not stated), then Eraser Immunity should be purchasable, but inactive while the Deadly Eraser drawback is active.

>>53565706
Embrace it. Become a ghost in Justice League Dark and be Ghost Jumper.

>>53565815
Drawbacks always go away at the end of a jump. That's drawbacks 101.

>53544878
When you realize Wildbow once said that: taylor survival were base on a dice roll....that when you realize how the fuck will humanity survive if taylor die

>>53565205
>event of dying how do you get your body back?
Many out of Jump methods like >>53565247
mentioned. But if you don't have any yet, you could always wait till next jump where you could get a new body by chosing a non Drop In Origin. Even the Drop In option can give a new body in most all instances (what with the age roll and all), unless it specifies you start exactly how you were at the end of the last lump

>>53565868
To reply to people, just click the number on their post. It puts the link into your post for you.

>>53565855
>Drawbacks always go away at the end of a jump. That's drawbacks 101
Yes? What does that have do do with what I said? What is this in reference to?

>>53565815
Okay, I know you're not the creator, but I have to say this Jump is really ugly looking. At least format it so paragraphs aren't split across pages like a civilized human being.

What Jumps give me the comfiest addons to my warehouse?

>>53565444
>>53565569
Artorius you twit, no one cares for your bird obsession

>>53565612
Interested in doing one and have some ideas noted but no claim or serious work on it.

>>53565712
That's where a shit ton of personal duplicates come in. Like don't get me wrong, my companions are good people and some might even be good parents. But do you know what's even better? Several hundred mind-linked clones of myself and an army of utterly loyal zombie nannies.

And yeah setting a good example is mostly it. Also I feel like being that terrible is eventually gonna put them in harm's way, so there's that too.

Giant projects like this are a lot of fun though. They give a lot of direction to something that might be pretty aimless otherwise. I'll just have to like... Figure out a less horrible way of doing it. Definitely recommend trying one of your own if you haven't already.

>>53565773
Good news anon:
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51638184/#51644576

>>53565942
Formatting isn't a strong point in the majority of jumps on the drive.

>>53565943
Stranger Things blanket fort combined with Lord of Light's Opulent Warehouse.

>>53565855
If this is about the Eraser, the base version is NOT structured as a drawback; it is something built into the "Your a Toon" thing Toons have. Like a Vampires being weak to sunlight and Kryptons to Kryptonite. Currently it is endemic to the form and would be active whenever you are in toon form.

Eraser Immunity is a Perk that removes the weakness.
Deadly Eraser is a Drawback the makes the vulnerability worse during the jump.

>>53565974
Yeah i know but this one is kind of ugly even by basic standards.

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>>53565444
we just don't know

>>53565385
>>53565388
>>53565389
Hmm. I don't mind having a bimbo/airhead Ninetails in my harem. Considering how intelligent most of my other companions are it would create a sort of balance.

>>53565868
>When you realize Wildbow once said that: taylor survival were base on a dice roll....that when you realize how the fuck will humanity survive if taylor die
I still say Wildbow was bullshitting when he said that. He trolls too much plus he has a bit of an ego that I have no problem believing that he said that to make himself look better. Rolling for some of the others I can buy but not Taylor.

Besides making Aegis the protagonist would have been a terrible choice. On the other hand making New Wave the protagonists would have been good but the story would still have suffered from escalation that ruins everything.

>>53566078
>bimbo/airhead
>Ninetales
Ninetales is one of the smarter Pokemon, actually. Easily human level.

>>53565956
Good old hiveminds solve many problems indeed. Your zombie nannies instantly made me think of an army of Marry Poppins-esque zombies, all dainty and dressed nice, but with missing jaws or an eye hanging out and assorted strange skin tones.

Mmmm, yeah, both good points (although it's hard to threaten them at the point you sound like you're at). I suppose as long as you're still having fun in the end it'll all work out.

Hohoho boy, you are preaching to the choir brother. Not a chain goes by that I don't organize some kind of project, and the good chains have multiple, at least one super massive one. I love my projects, it's basically the hardest thing I work on in my chains.

Ah, like right now I'm working on building up my own city ship because I wanted a place that persisted between Jumps that I and my companions could call a home, a place where I can allow all the monsters and monstrous races I make to settle. I named it the Echidna since it's basically the "mother of all monsters", nurturing them within its metal walls.

It used to be an Arcadia Class ship but renovations with a hive race I made (named Apito) scaled it up over a hundred times over. I did a bunch of math, guesstimating how long it might take to build something the size of the Arcadia, finding a container ship IRL that was a similar size, looking into South Korean Census information to see about how many working hours it took to build. Figuring out much harder this would be based on ship complexity and the hours I had available, the efficiency of my workforce, etc. It's like, over five times the size of New York for square kilometers, and- gah, too much to go over in one post.

Point is, I adore my projects, love them to bits.

>>53565444
To make it harder for wolves to hunt then.

>>53565815
In case the author reads this:

>Quick Change
Perfect disguise is too good for 50cp. It should only last a few seconds and not work against the same person repeatedly.

>Squash and Stretch
Complete immunity to blunt damage for a discounted 500cp in this low danger jump?

>Hammerspace Lock
>Hammerspace Thief
How do these perks that treat hammerspace as a real pocket dimension fit this genre at all?

>Unlimited Anvil Works
All these super strong ability packages and conceptual effects and you charge 600cp to summon anvils?

>Reality Warper
Permanently turning all attacks against you non-lethal isn't okay for 600cp, much less the 100 you're offering it for.

>Director
The perk would be fine... but you just had to add that immunity to time stop onto it. What is the basis for characters in this genre being immune to time stop?

>Eraser Immunity
Why offer immunity to Drop-Ins who by default aren't vulnerable to it in the first place? Also, acid immunity is too good for 100cp.

>Mundane Mondays
Why is super, area of effect Imagine Breaker only 400CP?

>>53566078
It does make me wonder how Aegis's powers could have been used as a deus ex machina to defeat Zion, though. Just as a thought experiment, assuming Wildbow wasn't lying. Like, Taylor getting her shard jailbroken and going from controlling bugs to controlling everything and then coordinating everyone to perfect effectiveness makes sense as a way to stop the Warrior Entity. But what anti-Zion method could you derive from physiology that adapts to any wound by creating redundant organs out of undamaged flesh?

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>>53566078
Gotta agree with >>53566146. Ninetales are generally considered quite smart as far as Pokemon go.

Mawile is a superior Pokemon in any case.

>>53566078
>>53566146
>>53566314
Thirding the whole "Ninetales are pretty damn smart" thing. Heck, my own Ninetales (starter, named Taylor) is basically the smartest person in my companion circle by a wide margin. That being said, Pokemon can vary drastically from one to the next, so maybe his is just dumb.

>>53566312
Aegis has his biology go crazy and he turns into a babby entity. Maybe he loses his humanity and flies off into space afterwards.

>>53565868
>will humanity survive if taylor die
Because if you look closely she doesn't matter at all. Flechette mattered, to have the super-weapon reach Scion. Noah matters, because his 'Look Human' shard reminded Scion of his dead mate and made him apathetic at a critical moment. The Khepri was just throwing stuff at a wall until something stuck. But what ended up sticking didn't need her at all.

She was completely replaceable in the grand scheme.

>>53566312
The only thing Taylor brought to the table was experience being bullied, which lead to the whole "Hey Zion, don't these shapeshifters look like your DEAD WAIFU?!" angle.

Hell, even going full Khepri Taylor lost the mind control fight with Goddess (and lost it so hard Goddess' minions also escaped her control) until she started using Canary's power to back her own.

Taylor's greatest asset in the end was how much of a pathetic scumbag she was.

>>53565706
That's why you go to overwatch; infinite robot bodies to possess way easier than other people's if your god machine makes them custom outta your ominium.

>>53566167
They are pure and wholesome zombie nannies, so that is not entirely inaccurate.

A city ship sounds like a lot of fun. A persistent city ship that you can work on for the hundreds (or even thousands) of years available to a Jumper? Even better. Filling it up with handcrafted artisanal monster goodness? Fuck yea. Making your own hive race is pretty cool too, must be handy.

I've gotta admire all the effort you put into figuring that stuff out though, makes me want to put in some similar work in this new chain of mine. Important stuff like that is worth the work, anyway.

>>53566314
>Mawile is a superior Pokemon in any case.
True.

>>53566312
Maybe if his shard was jailbroken he'd be able to take over scions true body if he could get access to it? Turn his power into some form of non manton limited biokinesis.

Personally I want to know how exactly Parian is supposed to be able to fight Behemoth.

>>53566415
>Personally I want to know how exactly Parian is supposed to be able to fight Behemoth.

wut?

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>>53566413
For your good taste, have another Mawile.

>>53566391
>Reminder that one stint in the locker wasn't enough

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>>53566314
>Mawile is a superior Pokemon in any case.
But that's wrong

>>53566432
According to Wildbow her power has a special application that's effective against Behemoth. He hasn't said anything about what it is though.

>>53566432
WB claims that there's some use for her power that would work well against Behemoth. I have no idea where the post is or what the exact wording was, but it's something like "she could potentially slow him down significantly."

Naturally, he refuses to say what it is and claims it will be revealed in a short story that he's been promising for, I think, years now.

>>53566377
Olliver, not Noah. And Taylor mattered because without her the superweapon wouldn't have been made. That thing only existed because she used her mind-slaving to get Shen Yu to do the Yangban treatment over every Tinker in existence, merging and dividing between them all their Tinkertech specialties so they could work together without any issues. Without her mind-slaving Shen Yu, he would have just been hiding in the Yangban's dimension. And Taylor also helped coordinate all the various emotional assaults, whether Olliver alone would have been enough is unclear.

But that's not really my point. Whether or not things could have been done without Taylor, I'm just wondering what the equivalent of her little final dramatic arc would have been. You know, the "protagonist does something risky to defeat Zion, starts winning, starts losing super hard when Zion recovers, and then resorts to psychological warfare long enough for the things they set up to kill him" arc. What risky thing would Aegis have done?

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>>53566458
A Squirtle is fine too.

>>53566391
>>53566377
Why would everyone be working together if Taylor didn't drag them all into the fight? China was shunted off into it's own dimension and everyone was still doing the petty squabbling thing. She's a bitch, but she wasn't useless.

>>53566452
To be fair, getting shit on more wouldn't make her any better. Real friends which aren't criminals might have, but that's a lot of effort for no real reward.

>>53566458
Wartortle gets a lot less cute once you realized that its tail is meant to be a turtle's cloacal gills. Yeah, turtles can breath water through their cloaca.

>>53566502
>without her the superweapon wouldn't have been made
Obviously things wouldn't have happened exactly the same way in the theoretical version where Taylor died, but there was such a huge amount of time between when dice would have supposedly been rolled that he totally could have written in another plot device that would have either facilitated the super weapon, or just something besides a tinker super-weapon that could have been used. Maybe jailbroken Aegis would have involved mind control to some degree.

>>53566523
Its a cute cloaca then

>>53566413
Do your nannies have any special abilities like being able to tell a mean story time or somehow touch ghosts so they can tuck them in?

Mm! I've really been enjoying the work so far. Much of the ship was constructed out of monster based metals I worked a bit after harvesting and had reproduced through Supreme Commander's Mass Fabricators modified a bit with some technology I'd developed for monster making. I have the Apito already on the ship taking care of future construction and ship maintenance, I just introduced Angels (a personal blend variety) who are working with the Apito to start building schools, libraries, internet infrastructure and clinics inside some subspaces I have around the ship, made with Non-Euclidean Mind (from Creepypasta) and have another 18 races lined up for introduction over the next 7 or so Jumps. Very busy.

Thank you very much! It's hard sometimes, especially when your heart isn't in it, but it really is worth it to look over all that you've made when you're finally finished. I think I have a harder time not putting in lots of details when I really care about stuff. And by the by, your description of your castle and ghosts and children already tells me you're putting in a lot of effort, just gotta keep up the good work.

>Mawile is a superior Pokemon in any case.
>True.
I mean, Mawile is great, but is it a giant floof that you can pet and scratch with nine whole tails of mega floof swaying behind it?

>>53566566
True. Sorry, I thought your objection was about Taylor being necessary in her own narrative. I agree that things could have gone differently in an Aegis-focused narrative, and not required him to be jailbroken at all. I just like to hypothesize. The idea of jailbroken shards is kind of a cool one, "what happens to this power when you remove all the safety limits" is a fun angle of speculation to me.

>>53566517
>that's a lot of effort for no real reward.
Using Doormaker to repeatedly shove her into various lockers, then using OOC stuff to follow her to the afterlife post-suicide so you can shove her soul into a locker, is a lot of effort for very little reward. "Very little" is more than "no real," so given the choice you should torment her more.

>>53566489
Maybe Behemoth is like a dog and you just need to make a big enough collar for it. Or worse, a sweater

>>53566301
>Complete immunity to blunt damage for a discounted 500cp in this low danger jump?
Anon, that's perfectly within the bounds of this genre. These things are utterly ridiculous, and they're meant to be. 500 CP for something like that is fine. And "low danger" doesn't really matter. That's inter-jump balance.


>Reality Warper
Yeah, the jumpmaker could probably add a line somewhere saying it requires concentration.

>Also, acid immunity is too good for 100cp.
When just about any acid can be defeated with a mundane covering or a bog-standard forec-field?

The rest of it? Yeah, there are still some issues, but most of your post reads like you just don't like that characters in these settings do what they do with relatively little danger.

>>53566603
Yeah, sorry, I thought you were saying that Scion couldn't have been defeated without Taylor because of the need for a superweapon, and she was the only way to get it.

>>53566512
I can believe she was uniquely well-positioned to take control of a large number of capes at the time, but the idea that no-one else thought of forcing humanity to work together to stave off the apocalypse strains belief. She got the capes she needed because Doormaker and Clairvoyant were available. Give that edge to pretty much any applicable Master and magic happens.

>>53566613
> put socks on behemoth
> he walks around funny
> record and put it on youtube for instant stardom

>>53566643
>behemoth has one eye
>knit one of those fuzzy bobble-tipped hats for babies and make him wear it
>he can't detect energy anymore and starts walking in circles

>>53566566
The only thing that was crucial was Flechette's power. To kill scion they just needed him to be hit with Sting and then something powerful enough to destroy a planet be launched through the opening to his true body. How they manage to hit him with it and what they use to attack his true body is pretty adjustable.

>>53566607
Ah, there seems to have been a misunderstanding. I'm an asshole, not a sadist, so that isn't actually a reward for me. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

>>53566627
>That's inter-jump balance.

>Using "bog-standard forec-field" to justify another perk
This annoys me.

>>53566627
>Anon, that's perfectly within the bounds of this genre. These things are utterly ridiculous, and they're meant to be. 500 CP for something like that is fine. And "low danger" doesn't really matter. That's inter-jump balance.
No limits fallacy. Bugs Bunny can survive getting run over by a train or squashed flat by an anvil, that doesn't mean he can survive a punch from Saitama. Besides, the jumpmaker already admits that really out there feats like lassoing planets were done with special effects even within the jump, so why wouldn't similarly huge defensive feats have also been fake?

>Yeah, the jumpmaker could probably add a line somewhere saying it requires concentration.
Fiat powered, unbeatable defense that turns all attacks non-lethal isn't okay even with concentration, especially not when it's a meta power based on TV age ratings. It needs to just make things less damaging, not inherently non-lethal regardless of how strong it was to begin with.

>acid immunity
Admittedly I'm quibbling, but acid immunity is better than the sound effect perk that costs 200. Although price vs utility is kind of all over the place anyway.

>>53565868
Probably by writing the story after that point differently. IIRC, he was pretty much writing by the seat of his pants the entire time.

>>53566727
>Bugs Bunny can survive getting run over by a train or squashed flat by an anvil, that doesn't mean he can survive a punch from Saitama.
I don't know, that sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I mean, as a narrative. It might not be reasonable in Jumpchain, because of power scaling, but I can totally see an interaction between Bugs and Saitama where Bugs walks off a punch from Caped Baldy. Of course, he'd then do something that makes the fight utterly unenjoyable to Saimata. Even fighting someone that's cartoonishly invulnerable, Saitama just can't get a good fight.

>>53566301
Not him but...
>Complete immunity to blunt damage for a discounted 500cp in this low danger jump?
>Low danger jump
you didn't read the timeline did you? Toons are a discriminated minority, and once the Eraser Formula is released and bigot can make a lethal weapon against them with over the counter purchases.

And also note that the toons should properly be immune to everything but dip, but the jumper won't be because the immunity to bludgeoning and cutting piercing as split among the toon eras.

You are complaining about it's utility on other jumps, which is literally complaining about interjump balance.

>What is the basis for characters in this genre being immune to time stop?
Because you don't get to call 'Cut!' on the Director.

>Why offer immunity to Drop-Ins who by default aren't vulnerable to it in the first place?
So it is out of origin for toon, but not for Half-Toons.

What's the best way to get someone to sell their soul?

I need to know for... reasons.

>>53566592
They're all made of pretty rugged stuff, and could probably kill a few dozen men easy by way of their undead strength alone, but their best asset is probably the personality and skills programmed into their brains before they're implanted into permanent bodies, refined with a lot of trial and error. That does include a lot of stories, which make good jumping off points for their natural creativity. A lot of work was also put into cooking, since not being able to taste what you make is a big disadvantage.

18 races? Damn. But I suppose with infrastructure like that, you should be able to support it. Especially with Non-Euclidean Mind, which is great for that stuff. Speaking of which, have you looked at the SCP jump? One of the items is a room that expands and infinitely creates rooms in a way that's spacially disconnected from the surrounding area, so that might help a lot. It's not even dangerous so far as we know!

Speaking of which, I'm kinda curious, just what sort of monsters are you even making? The term 'monster' covers a pretty effin' huge variety of things after all. Also, does that mean you took the angel-making perk from Bayonetta?

>I mean, Mawile is great, but is it a giant floof that you can pet and scratch with nine whole tails of mega floof swaying behind it?

Mawile can kiss you twice. At the same time. That's gotta be at least on par.

>>53566821
Threaten something they care about.
Beat them to near death and then offer the deal.
Essentially, put them in a situation where they have no other choice.

Also I hear approaching people as kids and making deals then works because naivety.

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>>53566821
Are you talking perks, or like straight up convincing?

>>53566820
>And also note that the toons should properly be immune to everything but dip
No limits fallacy. Just because mundane modern Earth doesn't have the firepower to kill something doesn't mean that an archmage, a Solar Exalt, or Khorne doesn't. And that's besides all the non-Who Frame Roger Rabbit shows where cartoon characters do die and go to heaven/hell/become a ghost as a gag.

>>53566727
>Bugs Bunny can survive getting run over by a train or squashed flat by an anvil, that doesn't mean he can survive a punch from Saitama.
...It also doesn't mean he couldn't? Like, unless Saitama's punches have a magical effect that forces his enemies' bodies to act as a mundane human, it's still just mundane kinetic force. And there are some abilities that due to their nature simply interact with something to an arbitrary extent. Also, it's arguable that at the level Saitama operates, you would no longer be dealing with "blunt" kinetic damage. At least not any more than a bullet would be considered "blunt".

Also, that's just one feat. It doesn't mean all of them were fake, and the jumpmaker really have the control to say otherwise. Especially since you're arguing that such things aren't present in the genre and thus not justified in the jump. The only case in which the jumpmaker's rulings would be relevant would be if he was describing his own world, but then that's his decision to put it at that level and has nothing to do with its suitability next to the source material.

Yeah. Admittedly, I was looking for things to dampen that since it seemed so ridiculous.

Fair enough.

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>>53566821
Sex, drugs and/or music that's younger than their parents.
Among the more classical sorts, offers to revive their deceased loved ones are hot right now.

>>53565208
No strong evidence either way. There does seem to be fairly definitive evidence that the more you make, the less empathic (dude he cannot read a room towards the end of canon, though it made him hugging Draco fantastic -- but he's fairly clearly this near soulless THING that's trying to fake and ape his old charismatic ways) and sane you are (Voldemort became more obsessed with immortality even as his safety net (horcruxes) got better and better, and upon gaining a new body casually tortured his own forces) -- doesn't help that the act of creating one is meant to be depraved (implied that there's something more than murder going on, else every murderous asshole would have tons).

>>53566848
Are demons bound by human laws because I'm pretty sure minors are not legally bound by contracts.

Why isn't there an option to pick up unlisted weapons in DS3? Why can't we get a starting set like new characters do?

>>53566913
Ringed City update someday.

I want the painter loli desu. And Friede's Scythe. I know that's Ariadne stuff but hey. Ringed City doesn't have much except for flippy swords and burny sword. I guess some people might want to help Filianore?

>>53566856
Either works, though I'd appreciate the assurance of Perk backing, if there's something out there. I tried searching the keywords "sell their soul" on the drive and got nothing.

If it helps, selling their soul to me is objectively positive for the subject, it's just that, well, I need them to at least partly knowingly sell their soul and people are reluctant about that for some reason.

>>53566894
>offers to revive their deceased loved ones are hot right now
Honestly a few of the ones I have in mind for this I actually would do that anyways.

>>53566821
1: Wait until they try an do something to you like rob you or something. And make them regret it, and let them know that you will keep making them regret it until they are dead or give willingly forfeit their soul as reparation.

2: Open a used car lot, and buy a cheesy red devil suit and plastic pitchfork. Have a promotional contest, lottery, game, etc where the winner gets the opportunity to buy any vehicle on the lot for 30 pieces of 'silver' (any 30 silver colored coins like nickels, dimes, or quarters) and their soul. Then arrange for them to win the promotion.

For bonus points make them think they pull a fast one on you if they act quickly by having your personal high end vehicle on the lot and have someone point out that that qualifies and they could ask for that instead of one of the cheap used cars on the lot.

>>53566949
>Honestly a few of the ones I have in mind for this I actually would do that anyways.

It's like they say: if you got a skill, get paid to use it.

Meh.

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Do you change to fit a world's art style, or do all the worlds look live-action?

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>>53566949
Ravenloft, Ghost Rider, and Marvel Magic have stuff to allow for soul bargaining.

As for how to get them to sell their soul? Well, by then you want to know things about them. What kind of things? Why, their frustrations. Their dreams. Their desires. Their deepest, darkest fears. Simply put, you want to know THEM. You want to know their truths, because once you know those truths they might as well be puppet strings for you to tug and pull. The truth is a very powerful thing, and knowing those truths can manipulate them in far more ways than a lie ever could. This is because if you know their deep truths, they'll believe that you took the time to know them. They'll think you're invested in them, and that's your foot in the door.

Sure, the ol' contract is a nice touch on the theatrical side, but in a pinch theatrics can slide. But knowledge is very important here. Knowledge allows you to create a plan to work with them, to make it so they'll beg you to take their soul. All because you can give them the one thing they've been craving for, the very things they thought they wouldn't be able to get until you darkened their door and revealed how it was all going to go down.

The freedom to indulge.

>>53567010
Bit of both.

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>>53566949
>Honestly a few of the ones I have in mind for this I actually would do that anyways.
Don't let that setup pass untried. If they don't go for the trade when you push it, you can ease off and offer it as a freebie. That will prime them to ask for your help next time some indomitable obstacle hits. If that combo doesn't work, you probably aren't going to be able to get that particular soul without trickery or force.

>>53566873
>No limits fallacy.
Sorry. I should have said anything mundane physical. I mean the guy was talking about bludgeoning and the old toons had so much stuff dropped on them at various times a human would be a literal thin smear of paste. I don't think 'but what if we bludgeoned/stabbed/shot' them more or bigger is an answer.

Point about the ghosts, but I don't think becoming going from (foo) type toon to a angel/ghost type toon really counts as dying, more like a comedic shapechange.

>>53567010
The latter, unless it's an explicit thing in-setting. I also don't assume that time moves faster in movie jumps or that it's as easy to see in the dark as in a desert on midday. Or that people in musical worlds sing every time they have or take a trivial thought or action like buying groceries or waiting in line.

>>53566827
Ooooh, I do like the frankenstein approach with the brains. I'm also really impressed by their cooking skill, I'm guessing they can follow a recipe like no other?

Twenty total with the Apito and Angels. I don't plan on my ship getting nearly as clogged as New York, but if I really wanted to do that, the ship could host a population of over maybe. . .40 Million or so individuals, give or take, if I'm remembering the information I looked up for comparisons correctly? I'm only planning on 100k of each race to start out with, and leaving so much space for growth since I'm making them cross compatible and crossing my fingers for interracial marriages and freaky awesome hybrid babies. I have not checked out the SCP Jump before, but that sounds absurdly useful for things like this!

Monsters is just a general term for things I've made with Aureole-Machina, a kind of bigger on the inside creature that looks like the unholy combination of a shrimp, a mantis and an octopus all painted gold that hosts a massive super computer among other self-developed or harvested technologies and abilities and a special program I use for making them. Think about it like. . .really complex splicing or customizing of anything mundane or magical with even something remotely resembling a genetic code using a computer, then manifesting it in reality, basically.

Hard to explain them all in this post (I'll do a follow up post), but it can range from simple homebrewed Orcs who are good generalists to more original creations like the Eldritch Tapir (haven't named those for real yet) that are like bulky, bipedal tapirs with soft color palettes and extendable prehensile tentacle noses. The Tapirs are basically really balance and numbers focused and are gonna be tasked with keeping the economy circulating smoothly, though they have other talents.

>Mawile can kiss you twice.
Double kisses is pretty convincing to be fair.

>>53567010
It's your decision. For me, the jumps look animated because 3D stuff is boring to look at.

>>53567010
They all look live action to me, because they're "real" and not tricks of light taken advantage of to confuse our mind. That's not to say it's a 1 to 1 with reality, the places are still odd-looking at points, but it's not totally uncanny.

Like anime characters still have big eyes, but they aren't terrifyingly huge things that they could lose a hand in.

>>53566972
>>53567041 (No Flowey faces antics? Aww.)
Sound advice.

>>53567028
Thank you kindly. Bonus points for the fluff you included as well, if a tad more menacing than I'm hoping to come off. ...Probably merited though.

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>>53567089
That sounds boring, desu senpai.

>>53567010
Most look "real," apart from things like weird hair colors in anime, but a couple have distinct styles.

Hey, quick question: A lot of abilities reference months as a unit of time. A month is not a consistent length under the Gregorian calendar. How long do you think should I assume it is? 28 days? 30? 31? It's not a huge difference of time, but I'm doing calcs for Civilization right now and over twelve thousand years a difference of a few days can build up to a lot.

>>53567145
30 seems like the usual assumption. nice round number too. And it's in the middle of the others.

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>>53567010
It varies. I mean, there are some old 8-Bit games and such where the artstyle is "some pixels that kinda look like a thing", and in that case there are a lot of changes to the world. But generally I change when it would make sense.

I think in my head I usually imagine things as being animated but more detailed, like, if the art studio didn't have to worry about things like a budget or time constraints.
So live-action is live-action, and animation is "animated, but better", and videogames are like above FMV quality, and so on and so forth.

>>53567119
>details
>depth perception
>sunsets with the full range of color in a sunset
>boring

Enjoy cutting yourself on the faces of your stylized waifus, though.

What ADVENTURES are there to be had in Lunars?

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>>53567100
That's because when it comes to the art of one's soul, there's no sugarcoating this. You know what they want, and you know what you want. That puts you in the position of control in this particular case, and many times they're going to know you're in control. But the key is to not hold it over their heads, otherwise they're going to think something's up.

Maybe you want to present it like a wish, using Sorcery from Viking Saga. Or maybe you want to go the route of Ursula, and use perks from Disney Princess to make it a musical while you're pitching the deal. Who knows? But the point is you're the one who tugs the strings and holds the cards. If they want their share of the pot, they need to do the dance and fold. Presenting it as a matter of fact rather than acting like a comical villain will just get in the way, and like >>53567041 says there may be some who are hard to get. That's okay, not everyone will kowtow so easily. So a small demonstration could help, a little taste to prove you're not bullshitting on being able to make it worth their while. Of course knowing their deepest dreams should be enough of a tipoff, but hey. Some people are skeptics and need that little taste. But you should be able to get most people with those tools, provided you're not a retard and cackling with a little devilish goatee.

All you have to do afterwards is have a good answer for what you'll do with that soul. That can be a make-or-break antic, so depending on why you might need to half-truth it. Use exact words. But really, most people won't stop to ask why when you've got that tantalizing prize right in front of them. By then it's only a matter of getting the deal settled and sealed.

>>53567166
That actually works out neatly, I get a nice round number that way. So I can use once-a-month abilities a total of 142500 times over the course of Civilization. Nice. Thanks, anon.

>>53567010
Change to fit the world's art style, Pagemaster style.

>>53566827
>>53567086

Alright, so after the Angels are fully brought up to speed and in a position where they can help future races assimilate into society and stuff, I can start bringing races in much faster. (These are gonna be basic descriptions even though I have small collections of notes for the below races.)

Dryads, Sea Serpents and Chargers(need to work out a proper name for them) come in next as my kind of agriculture and natural food source production races come in. Dryads are plant people, straight up, lots of nature based abilities, they'll live in the parks and forests I form which is even easier to grow and expand than the other areas I have slated for construction, they're gonna be in charge of vegetable and fruits. Sea Serpents are like. . .okay, so they're like if you crossed Fishmen from One Piece with lamias, and they're gonna live in these lakes and stuff I develop to harvest other random aquatic life I fill the bodies of water with. Chargers are like, Killer Croc mixed with a Minotaur, but tender, parental, chill ass farmers.

Orcs are getting made for generalist positions, odd jobs and physical labor. Demons (personal brew) are getting brought into to form the backbone of the entertainment industry. Centaurs are your zen artists, lots of gardening and poetry, feng shui, painting and working with nature. Sapient Dragons are more dynamic artists with avant garde sculptures, blood pumping music, cooking, working with stones and metals.

Kitsune (dark, magical, transforming foxes with a focus on FREEDOM) and Phoenixes (basically the flipside of the coin) are basically two opposing political parties mediated by a third race known as Shifters(think even tempered combinations of Demon Weapons and Transformers), and these three help shape the legal system on the ship.

Jello Shots (slimes with alcoholic properties that clean the ship), Peryton- fuck so much more nevermind

>>53567145
30 days, unless the month has an implied 1/12 of a year situation, then a bit less than 31 days.

>>53567187
Fight Dragonblooded. Undermine Dragonblooded colonialism. Guide and shape societies. Explore the Underworld, the Wyld, Malfeas, and any other strange place that is outside Creation proper. Explore ancient First Age ruins for neat toys. Punch Ma-Ha Suchi in the dick. Punch him in the dick again. Slap Raksi upside the head and tell her to stop eating babies, she's not shocking anyone anymore. Liberate the sunken city of Luthe from Whale Hitler. Help Swan Dragon regain his sanity. Delve into Rathess and restore the Dragon King's civilization. Meet Alchemical Exalted when they come through the Seal of Eight Divinities and commiserate with them over how no one understands being an Attribute-focused Exalted type. Stay as far away as possible from the relationship drama Lilith has going on.

So some Bastard perks to show off. Sorry it's taking so long. Over here in Australia we're all busy studying for University Exams. Trying to get some stuff done even still but most of my time is studying under a harsh taskmaster.

These two perks (One in next post for length) are for the Dark Hero line, one of the first set of origins and based on Dark Schneider himself.

Unquestionable Presence- 400
It’s a simple law of the universe. The handsome hero will always triumph over the ugly villain. And you? You’re the handsomest of them all. Gorgeous, stunning, picturesque, divine. All words that fail to describe you fully. You could make even the prettiest of demons or angels boil in jealousy and make the hearts of mere mortals stop for a moment or two on seeing you. And that law earlier? Well, it might not be quite as described but you do find it applying to your battles. The more handsome you are in comparison to your foe, the stronger you feel yourself getting. Facing a badly scarred peasant of a man? It’d be easy to crush his hand with a handshake. Up against a grotesque demon? You might pull out nearly half again your full power for a few attacks against them.

>>53567262
Thank you, kind anon!

Second perk

Devil’s Child- 600
The darkness is rising. The evil forces are growing stronger. Soon the villain will be unstoppable. Too bad for him he’s not the only one that grows on evil. You are empowered by the mere presence of evil, whether it be energies or beings or even just actions. Your foe decides to utilise dark magics and necromancy to fight you? He’ll find you growing stronger as the battle goes on. A dark god has awakened and spread an evil aura over the whole world? You’ll be just as empowered as any of that dark gods’ servants would be by their presence. The stronger the feeling, the stronger you’ll grow but these are temporary boosts. There are ways to increase your power permanently however. Killing evil beings will see you take a good portion of their power for your own. The more brutal and evil your own ways of ending them, the more you’ll gain, but it’ll only be in raw physical or magical power, you don’t gain any unique abilities from them.

>>53567256
Shit man, you're thinking of positions for every single race? Tell us more. It's great seeing someone put so much into a project again.

>>53567256

Peryton are my explorers, diplomats and basically an accidental waifu/husbando race of deer/bird people. Eldritch Tapir I mentioned before kinda. Gothics which are half werewolves and half Vampires literally (both show up in the race) that like socializing and scheming ways to shape the social landscape for trend development and unpredictability in my ship's culture. Ethereal Fey which don't directly interact with the rest of the ship much but are the source of all manner of ghost stories and urban legends, again for cultural reasons (also they're fucking stupid strong).

agh, fingers, cramp

last three are modified tyranids, "god frogs" and "valerians" which started as a joke but ended up becoming a thing and cool, hand hurts, be a moment

>>53567283
Is this based on anything in canon, or is it just meta observations about the genre?

> home for summer break between uni semesters
> just as I'm about to start summer proper a water pipe bursts going to our house
> gotta turn it off because we'll have to pay for any water that leaks through, because it's on personal property and can't be paid for by the state or whoever fixes that shit


What's your favorite Jump, and why

>>53567293
>but it’ll only be in raw physical or magical power
Is that magical power as in "more mana" or more like higher base strength?

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>>53567010
Settings always look like the art style of their medium. If they're books, I go with an art style or even realism based on the overall tone. A light novel is definitely anime-style, ASOIAF is live action.

I think all those people saying they want everything in live action don't know what they're asking for. A lot of things that look great in anime would look horrible in real life. Like candy colored hair and ridiculous, flashy weapons. Or monster girls.

>>53567322
It's what DS is yelling during almost every fight and often boasting about out of fights too. One of his many things is his ego and arrogance and believing that because he's handsome and cool, he'll always win out over ugly monsters.

The perk is just making that into an explicit effect.

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>>53567309
>Eldritch Tapir
Pic related?

>>53567338
It's general power so I'd imagine it'd be a bit of both. Increasing how much energy you have and your overall power with it. Same with physical boosts, as it'd be overall physical power and not just strength or toughness alone.

>>53567331
yours

>>53567010
Live action, but still pretty close to how things appear in the source.
It ties in with how I view how carrying powers, tech, and magic from world to world works.

>>53567293
>Devil’s Child
The fuck happened to Dante, anyway?

>>53567417
He got eaten by demons.

>>53567344
No, I know exactly what I'm asking for. I like my worlds to remain internally consistent instead of following an arbitrary "art style" meant to convey a world. I also prefer such designs over the much-worse "toon-shit brought into reality or an unfitting style". Also, part of why it looks so shitty IRL is because of limitations of what we can do. Presumably it'd look better if these things actually looked and functioned as they're meant to in their genres. At any rate, it's better than living in anime-world with shitty eyes or toon-world with ludicrous proportions and wholly unattractive everyone.

>>53567305

Okay, so like, every aspect of a society that I could think of I tried to cover in some way, but I didn't want to just pigeon-hole a race into only being one thing forever. So, what I did, was design each race with a few common mental characteristics and shared advantages that made them lean to a natural desire and proficiency for the roles I was wanting them to fill.

This, is combined with each race having a "representative", a kind of leader that varies from race to race (for the Apito, my hive race of bee/ant/etc people, it's their Queen, for the Angels it's an Archangel, and so on) that is tasked with the responsibility of both caring for their race and making sure the roles their race was placed in charge of smoothing out, means the races have certain jobs, but the outliers and ones who want to branch out have that freedom.

As a basic example, Angels have scholarly, inquisitive and altruistic tendencies because I wanted them to be good teachers, learning a bunch of things and passing it on to others, so they could help assimilate future races onto the ship easier. Once I got done writing them up though, I realized many of them would probably also be great as doctors for their bed side manner and intimate knowledge of the human body (if they were an angel that dabbled into medicine that is).

So, all the races have certain jobs, (Ah, forgot to mention but Nids, God Frogs and Valerians are the military side of the ship, coming in last since I didn't have much of a need for them till around that time) but because they're good at certain things instead of mentally wired for one job, they can be found in all sorts of other places too, and any new roles I might need filled can probably be done by them too.

>>53567344
Eh. I think you're overstating how bad anime-world looks IRL. Unless you go and cherry-pick he worst examples.

>>53567010
I just take the art style perk from Panty&Stocking and change it to match whatever setting I'm in. My default look however looks like 3d rendering.

>>53567445
Hey, did you see>>53566913?

Also the jump doesn't say how it handles death, which is kind of important for Dark Souls.

>>53567354
Kinda, actually! But with a much longer, suction-cuppy nose and random pastel colored bodies. Little thicker too, like a dwarf.

>>53567461
>My default look however looks like 3d rendering.
Or CGI. Whatever the term is for looking like a video game.

>>53566820
>but the jumper won't be because the immunity to bludgeoning and cutting piercing as split among the toon eras.


Not as I read it. Essentially there two different durability perks that work a bit differently but will cover both types of attack. Ink and Paint Innards specifally mentions bashing your brain with a baseball bat, and Squash and Stretch is mentioning reattaching dismembered limbs.

You could say they work better on the type of damage mentioned, but they are still resilient to both.

>>53567344
And I think that people who jump into stylistic worlds are too lazy or unimaginative to imagine what their waifus and whatnot would look like in worlds that, barring one or two gimmicks, are generally meant to follow the same physical and biological laws as our own so they default to the appearances they were spoon-fed. Funny how that works.

>>53567498
You just sound salty, really.

>>53567469
Ah, sorry, I didn't see that. Also, I decided against adding a system like that in DS3 Jump I think since I was adding all sorts of other origins besides a protagonist style undead and most other things deal with death normally.

>>53566913
Mostly because the item section is expansive and there's the expectation of people going hunting for equipment and stuff within the Jump once they're done with their build. I'll have to remember that starting set idea though if I get around to an update.

>>53567086
It's a lot easier than teaching them individually for sure. Much easier to provide appropriate feedback, and manage responses. A lot of loyalty conditioning goes into that stage too, just in case the necromantic control ever falters. And yeah, they're each fed hundreds of recipes and then given several parameters to come up with their own, which means they aren't great innovators, but what they know, they really know. A little cybernetic enhancement helps out with all the previous stuff too. So I guess they're... Cyber-zombie super nannies. Huh.

Well it sounds like you've got plenty of space to house all of those hybrid babies. And I approve of letting everything get down with everything. You don't even necessarily need a large population of each race for them to breed true, so even with twenty of them you'll probably have tons of space left over. I guess that was part of the plan though? So that no one ever feels too cramped. Would definitely help with the 'place to call home' feeling. The SCP jump also has an awesome time dilation device, so it's definitely worth checking out.

Also wtf, that thing sounds awesome. Much more efficient than my cobbled together lifeform factories. Admittedly, they fit my aesthetic well enough, but I still gotta admire the thing. And the fact that it's gold too, which would almost be tacky if it wasn't a giant monster-making bug octopus.

>>53567256
>>53567309
Damn, I'm impressed. Of course, it does make sense to have various races fill niches when they're so readily available to you, but you went a lot farther than just some agriculture and industry stuff, which I admire. It sounds like it's meant to be an actual city, instead of a 'city' that constantly revolves around you. Personally I'd shudder at the thought of introducing politics to my little haven, but it sounds like you probably have this under control.

And like >>53567256 said, feel free to go on when your hands aren't cramped up from all that

>>53567520
Well, I just got back from a swim, so it's possible.

>>53567527
Hey NuBee, would it be possible to have a Madness of Virtue or Sin, something related to morality as a form of Madness? Madness of Virtue would influence people to act in ways associated typically with virtue, where as Madness of Sin would obviously corrupt people and have them act in a sinful matter. Just curious to see if something like that would be possible.

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>>53567498
>>53567344

>tfw now imagining characters looking like decent/good/great cosplay

I'm okay with this.

>>53567549
Cosplay is shit and anyone who cosplays is a waste of human flesh.

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>>53567461
That's got a perk for it? Neat.

>>53567498
>And I think that people who jump into stylistic worlds are too lazy or unimaginative to imagine what their waifus and whatnot would look like in worlds that
You're assuming that I even have these "waifus" you speak of.

>>53567549
What an ugly fat girl.

>>53566827
>It's not even dangerous so far as we know!
Don't keep it outside. http://www.scp-wiki.net/code-name-the-truth

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>>53567498
Sure anon, your spider waifu will look super cute when her bottom half is this un-idealized thing.

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>>53567549
Why is that sideways?

>>53567430
>Brought into
That's where you're wrong about my view. My view applies to myself as well, meaning that I and anything with me that moves to a new world adapts to the present style. This necessitates style changes frequently when leaving anime settings and the like for realistic ones, because everyone suddenly looks like a clown and needs to go mundane to not look shit.

>>53567457
Try and put your typical JRPG protagonist in real life.

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>>53567586
>rejecting true love because her form has some aspects you don't appreciate sexually, when you can import her later and give her a human body
You're a shallow man. throwing away a chance at love because of a temporary setback.

>>53567595
No idea.

>>53567566
[citation needed]

>>53567586
Generally they look like black widows if you examine the artstyle, but that works too I guess.

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>>53567586
Not all spiders have ugly rears.

>>53567672
I can accept her. I simply reject the idea that it's optimal to force that realistic style on them.

>>53567682
>>53567693
Yet unless it's stated in the material, you can't be sure exactly what sort of sort they were going for, and what quirks of spider anatomy it would have.

>>53567711
Why are you being so anal, jesus

>>53567726
Because I'm talking to a guy throwing out words like 'lazy' 'unimaginative' and 'spoon-fed'.

>>53567711
>you can't be sure exactly what sort of sort they were going for,
They should pretty much look the same, as their own brand of spider. It doesn't make sense for them to resemble the worst specific example of a spider subspecies you can find when they're not breeding with normal spiders. Like, seriously, the major differences should be actual noses and smaller eyes.

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>>53567586
That's kindof a falty comparison, though? I mean, I always imagine there's some basic crossover in terms of aesthetics.
Like, suppose you have a spider waifu, and she's idealized in her original artstyle. Mostly symmetrical. Smooth carapace. No major blemishes. I think that would carry over.

So, like, yeah, if you're not into actual spiders, and you bring her into the real world, she's gonna look pretty freaky as hell, because holy shit, she's a giant fucking spider. But by our standards, she would at least be a very nice looking spider.

You don't, like, move over to a new setting and suddenly gain a lot of weird lumps, is what I'm saying.
Unless maybe the world you're in considers weird lumps to be an idealized form?
I don't know. I lost where I was going with this comparison.

This whole argument is literally "having fun the wrong way 2.5" on both ends.

>>53567628
Japan does that right now.
The main sticking point is finding enough hair gel and spray.

>>53567711
Okay? They'd still have those quirks even in the "artstyle". You're just changing how things look, and in most cases the changes won't be that major unless you have a hideous style like in Steven Universe or Rick and Morty.

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>>53567628
Okay? I mean... I've seen worse?

>>53567750
>>53567790
This ignores traits of spider anatomy that are only exempted because of art style and not biology (and indeed would be necessary for many of the functions of a spider). An example is their hairs, which on a spider girl in real life would end up like a bunch of stilettos. You couldn't hug your spider girl, as her spider parts will be covered in sharp spikes akin to porcupine quills that might even be designed to break off under your skin.

This also ignores basic issues of biology such as how exactly her upper half, based on the closed circulatory system of a mammal, hooks up with her lower half, which would have the open circulatory system of a spider. Assuming she even has all blood or all haemolymph and not some ungodly mixture. Or how about the fact that gravity at her size would cause her chitinous body parts to simply collapse and pop open, resigning her to an immediate and gory death?

>>53567809
Looks fucking awful. Fake hair colors don't work in reality. But I really meant their outfits there.

>>53567538
I'm fully of the same opinion when it comes to programming new lifeforms.
Out of curiosity, what happens if Necromantic control falters?Wouldn't they just revert to being dead?
Ooooh, built in cookbooks, I really like that.
CYBERNETICS!!! I love that concept, mixing machines with the undead, that always produces such great designed whenever it actually gets used.

So much space for expansion, and I can probably get more pretty easy if I hit up another Jump that has a ship size booster. Don't really know of any besides Titanfall which I didn't visit after figuring out I could make the ship so huge without it. And yeah, definitely part of the plan, even if the ship could host far more, I just wanted a (relatively) small starting pool for each, enough to be called a proper population. I'm fully expecting lots of children in the future too so I wanted to leave future generations places to strike out and call their own within the ship. Damn, seems like I really need to visit SCP.

Thanks! The gold comes from angel halos. If you want, I could try to make a paste of it right quick. It's not really written for public reading so I might need to answer some questions, but it's probably workable enough. Did I forget to mention that because it was made in Rommel Kingdom, basically One Piece's version of Great Britain, it has a completely legit reason for developing an English accent?

Your stuff sounds really cool too dude, I really like zombies and other forms of undead aesthetically, and I've wanted to dabble with necromancy but I've never really found a good base system for it randomly jumping about. An undead flesh castle haunted by cursed spirit amalgamates sounds like a final boss area,

I wanted to make even more races but I stopped being able to figure out new roles for them to fill. As for politics- damn post limit

>>53567812
>he can't hug a knife person without getting stabbed

But seriously this just comes off more as pedantic than anything else.

>>53567812
So, you're saying the worlds that these characters are from don't have gravity or biology? At this point you may as well be complaining about how no anime character could breathe through their nose so they should all be panting like dogs.

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>>53567711
Most spider-people end up having lower bodies that resemble mostly whole Theridiidae spiders, probably because it's such a 'classic spider' shape for Westerners. I'd like to see more variety in the types used though, because most spiders are actually rather pretty once you get up to them.

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>>53567846
I'd like to see more fuzzy spider waifus, myself.

>>53567843
They certainly work differently by default, and you forcing a realistic aesthetic on it causes a lot of it to fall apart.

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>>53567857

>>53567812
All of which changes how they work, and not merely how they look. The rest of your post is not worth responding to. There are plenty of things in live action which wouldn't work in reality. Seriously, your argument is along the lines of saying wuxia fighters should just fall to the ground when they jump. Also, just because you can't see some things doesn't mean they don't exist. Many manga worlds still have things like dermatologists and make-up even though they make no practical difference to the reader.

>>53567546
Yeah, either one seems perfectly possible to me, though remember the corruption is madness based and can get extreme at the upper end.

brb, forgot food in oven, burnt, gonna go figure out how to salvage this, gonna take like twenty minutes or so

>>53567877
If you don't think looks apply to biology, then you're poorly equipped for this argument to start with. Your outward appearance is a product of your biological structures, anon. I also have no idea what your comment on cosmetics have to do with anything. Are you assuming all spider girls get their hair plucked out or something?

>>53567859
You seem to be conflating 'realistic aesthetic' with 'works under the rules of reality'. That's dumb and so are you. Do you think marvel movies are following the rules of reality because they're live action?

>>53567846
You can find examples in original artwork.

What's the least evil faction in 40k?

>>53567885
Thanks NuBee.

>>53567527
If you do ever do an update I would suggest an option that lets you continue summoning friendly phantoms in future worlds.

>>53567926
The Tau, and even they are prone to ethnic cleansing.

>>53567904
I never said that, dumb-ass. Adapting a person to a different aesthetic doesn't mean you random add a bunch of gribblies and that everything in its entirety stops working. Honestly, for the post to which I'm currently replying to even exist, you'd have to be a troll, so yeah. We're done. Consider me baited.

>>53567926
Pretty sure that would be the Tau.

>>53567926
yes

>>53567926
The Tau, who are like if Nazi Germany had been really into Communism and mind controlling the Jews.

>>53567959
It's not random gribbles. They're physical structures that spiders naturally have and are needed for some of their functioning. You ever see your spider girl crawl on a wall? She needs those hairs.

Here's an example. Do you agree that Krillin in real life would have a nose?

>>53568000
>Do you agree that Krillin in real life would have a nose?
He explicitly does not have one in the work itself. At least according to the characters themselves when Krillin fights some giant stinky dude.

>>53567926
Exodites, maybe? They're basically space elf Amish. Not sure if they count as a faction, though.

>>53568028
Then replace him with any other character from an anime that doesn't seem to have a nose.

>>53568000
Then either:

1) They're present regardless of which "art style" is chosen.
Or
2) They're not present, regardless of art style, and magical spider-girl who already ignores biology clings to the wall through unexplained, non-standard means.

>>53568052
That they would not exist in a realistic art style requires a second assumption, that they're only 'realistic' in a limited sense for arbitrary reasons.

>>53567926
Don't listen to the commies claiming tau. The real answer is Orks. Not because of that bullshit excuse of "they are only having fun". But because they are too stupid to be actively malevolent. An Ork is no more evil than a wolf, dangerous yes, evil no.

>>53567926
The Nekrons. They're trying to cleanse the universe of the Warp, an inherently noble goal.

>>53568064
Well, there you go. Then they should exist regardless of medium, unless explicitly stated otherwise, in which they don't exist. I would also assume that anime characters who appear not to have noses also have them, and though they appear not to have pores, they still have those.

>>53568110
The warp is only a problem because they tried to genocide another race for not giving them immortality.

>>53568030
Not certain myself, but I've heard that the Exodites will kill any non-eldar that land on their planets.
Still, at least they aren't going out of their way to purposeful dick over and kill people. They just take "stay of my lawn you young punks!" to the extreme.

>>53567934
No problem dude.

>>53567936
That could be cool, I'll think on that.

>>53568000
Krillin would not have a nose since it's not an art thing, he just genuinely doesn't have a nose. This was a plot point in Dragon Ball.

>>53568136
Wasn't it a martial arts technique?

>>53568117
And they've realized their mistake and are cleaning up the mess they've made. Like heroes do.

>>53568130
>the Exodites will kill any non-eldar that land on their planets.
To be entirely fair, anything that would land on their planet is probably going to try and kill them, too.

>>53568117
I thought that started because the C'tan got in a hissy fight with the Old Ones. And then got completely fucked when the Eldar collectively got too much into the sex part of their Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n Roll stage. And then really went to shit when Horus fucked up the Imperium and started giving them worshippers en masse.

>>53567825
Does it really? Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

>>53568147
Nope, he was freaking out trying to cover his nose to avoid a Stinky Guy's stench during one of the world tournaments and his friends yelled out from the sidelines that he didn't have one. Then he was like "wait, oh, I guess I don't, huh?" and found himself immune to the guy's stench techniques when he pulled his hands away. You know, on account of not having nostrils.

>>53568157
>Humanity keeps running into aliens that dick them over and kill them."
>Human:"Fuck it, we'll just kill them on sight."
>Exodites keep having aliens trying to dick them over and kill them.
>Exodites: "Fuck it, we'll just kill any that land."

On one hand, it's kinda neat to see a different races run into the same problems on conclusions.
On the other, thanks to 4chan, I'm now just thinking that they are hardcore Tsunderes for each other.

>>53568221
>>Humanity keeps running into aliens that dick them over and kill them."
>>Human:"Fuck it, we'll just kill them on sight."
It's more that even way back before humanity turned into a quadrillion strong cult the Emperor still told them to kill the Xenos.

Besides the Chaos Gods, can I permanently kill demons without fucking up shit elsewhere?

>>53568252
Humans got fucked over, repeatedly, by Xenos during the Dark Age of Technology.

>>53567827
Since they're self sustaining they can still function if control falters, and their conditioning is enough that they shouldn't even appear all that different. It might seem like a needless risk to have them able to act autonomously, but they can be killed in an instant if something comes up, so it's easily managed. And yeah, cyber-undead is a wonderful aesthetic. Which reminds me that I need to hop over to Nechronica and help out over there at some point. More undead kids! Woo!?

I feel like I remember reading about something that could help with making it even bigger, but let me find it first before I go talking out of my ass. Also, question: If overpopulation ever becomes an issue, do you have something in mind for that? Or is the something in mind 'keep making the ship bigger'?

That's a lot of halos. And that would actually be pretty cool to see, so sure, I'd love to see what you have written on this thing. What kind of monster makes their squid-forge sound like a Brit

Combining a bunch of different necromancy systems is how I go about it. Between CCS Conjoined Conjures and Overlord Dark Wisdom, it's fairly easy to mix and match. D&D jumps were my start because of the sheer variety in 3.0/.5 material. Jumps like Resident Evil and the couple of zombie apocalypses are good for the biological kind. From there it's just about picking up any new Necromancy system that looks halfway useful. Thanks a lot though, I'm glad it sounds interesting to someone other than me. I'll probably be doing something similar in my new chain, but much more efficient, much larger in scale, and since you kinda inspired me, much more thought put into it all. This time it'll begin with some lesser used options: Adventure Time Necromancy and organic manipulation powers I take from some conduit in InFamous.

>>53568092
>>53567973
Well, at least if Ethereal dickery is the main concern, Farsight Enclaves might be appealing.

But yeah, Necrons seem relatively chill depending on the leader. Orks might lack any grander malice but that's a fleeting comfort for anyone caught in their general direction.

>>53568326
>implying
Humanity probably dicked them over just as much, if not more. In the first place, that piece of lore is basically a bullshit cop out to justify the Imperium's own shitty behavior, and it logically follows that since their current policy is one of immediate escalation to violence, that they were never really any more generous then they are now.

Emps has always been a racist, why would you believe that the situation was fine and degraded, instead of the much more reasonable conclusion that everything was bad all along? Why wouldn't you think that the lore about the period of history isn't doctored to all hell and complete bullshit from all angles?

>>53568386
>not just painting yourself green and joining them

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>>53568184
Nope. C'tan only got awakened after the Necrontyr started a fight with the Old Ones and couldn't handle it. They found these entities that feed on stars and gave them super robot bodies, and the eventually enslaved their race. Lore changed recently so that the Necrons threw them off eventually and enslaved their shards and all that. On the Old Ones end, having to deal with the C'tan required them to make several slave races devoted to psyker warfare (the orks and eldar only being two of many).

The Old Ones eventually won barely, and were nearly extinct, yet all the war and horror and suffering these young psyker races experienced tainted the warp and made it dangerous. This created a being called the Enslaver, which is sort of like a psychic tick that mind controls you and eats your brain, and they flooded out into reality and pretty much destroyed almost all sapient races, including the last Old Ones. Since Enslavers are warp beings, this lead most of them to die out too. Eldar survived, and set about building their little empire. The Warp at this time was like a choppy sea, difficult at times, but wasn't wholly dangerous. This is when daemons first became the dominant Warp 'lifeform' over things like Enslavers.

Things got worse over time as chaos gods were born from the galaxy still being a shit hole as new races and old survivors repopulated. But it managed not to be a complete mess for now. Then the hedonism of the Eldar steadily made the warp a more and more dangerous place, prompting the Shamans to become the Emperor of Mankind, until this came to a head and the Eldar Empire exploded, creating Slaanesh and the Eye of Terror. This event was what was finally too much for the Warp, and it became this swirling maelstrom of madness and unending daemons everywhere that nothing could safely touch or traverse, and eternally made life difficult for everyone.

But the Eldar wouldn't exist without the Necrontyr being pissy bitches about immortality.

>>53568406
Man, Emps has always been a dick in general. He was always perfectly okay with fucking over plenty of humans to achieve whatever his current goals were. Really the Imperium is only shittier now by virtue of religion and superstition, everything else was already there, more or less.

> can't pick all my fave pokemon because I have too many
truly, this is suffering

>>53565795
>Carpenters
You are a namefag, but you're a namefag with good taste.

>>53568386
Weren't you reworking the Imperium jump into something more specific? How goes that?

>>53568464
Well, we also have Pokemon Conquest, which can net you a bunch of Pokemon as well.

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so...
I heard someone may be making an adeptus mechanicus jump...
when do I start praising the machine god?

>>53568252
Emperor's rules were actually that any race that submitted to humanity was allowed to live. He just refused to allow aliens to have any authority over mankind after humans' alien allies betrayed them during the Age of Strife.

>>53568221
>Tsunderes
They basically are, especially now that Guilliman has an eldar waifu.

>>53568306
Chaos Gods can infinitely revive their demons. Only rub is that those demons can't infinitely get back into reality. It takes work to do that.

>>53568353
Well as long as you have everything under control, sounds wonderful. The thought of them going berserk would probably be a sight to behold. Also, oh, shit, Nechronica! That place has wonderful stuff, I remember the last time I went there (not this chain) I got a hole where my heart was to get rid of a weakness and just kinda stored stuff in there, it was fun. Well, the Jump is wonderful. The setting, less so, took the village drawback just so I could get more of them out of there

The something in mind is usually "keep making it bigger" and "add more subspaces with Non-Euclidean Mind" yeah. I gave most of them pretty low breeding priorities in their instincts since they didn't really need them (unlike something natural that constantly fights against the threat of extinction, these races don't face many natural pressures and their numbers can be bolstered artificially in a worst case scenario) so population growth shouldn't be too severe of a problem for a really long time.

This monster, because the thought of an AI getting a British accent and it making sense for once amused me. Cool! I'll go try to put it together and link it next post.

That makes way more sense than a lot of things I'd considered before. I don't know why I never considered the mix and match solution when I use it everywhere else. Do you have any ideas yet for what your plans are gonna be on the revised project?

>>53568431
I feel like the way the warp works overall is really fucking stupid desu. Why the fuck would the eldar empire's hedonism bullshit cause the warp to explode into awful?

While people are discussing 40k, how did the Emperor feel about Psykers in general? Was he cool with them as long as they knew how to not SUDDENLY DAEMONS?

>>53568481
I'll consider that the highest of praise, thank you anon.

>>53568532
Emps was a Psyker basically

>>53568406
Their current policy isn't one of immediate violence. Despite the propaganda, the actual government has a more balanced take. On the borders, they sanction trade and interaction with approved xenos. In their own territory, their principle is to judge of xenos are a threat. Threats are exterminated. Non-threats are left alone and quarantined unless they have something valuable to humanity. Then they're exterminated. Hell, even dangerous species are simply quarantined if it would take too many resources to exterminate them, there are several bullshit tough minor species the Imperium just ignores because it's too expensive to devote all the soldiers needed to wipe them out.

>>53568353
>>53568513
Oh, forgot I'd already apparently made it into a paste at some point??? Here you go.

https://pastebin.com/auGyF9Ri

>>53568485
You have saved me. Although, I was planning on making all my pokes into companions, and I'll have eight at the moment if I import all of them in my next few jumps (Plus me and another companion). Was kinda hoping to keep the companion numbers small, but what can you do, I guess.

>>53568516
I guess 4 major gods is just too many. It reached critical mass.

>>53568532
Depends on he lore. In old-lore? Yes, he was good with psykers and eventually wanted humanity to become an all-psyker race. But he wanted to to it carefully, so no Daemons.

Newer-lore? He's a big hypocrite who hates psykers, but made a deal with the Chaos Gods so that he could make the Primarchs.

Because new lore is written by chaos fanboys, and tons of it just exists to make the emperor look like a shithead.

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>>53568414
well, if any non-ork could, a jumper could. Indeed, mfw leading a WAAGH that way.
but is that actually a thing in universe?
>>53568483
on standby since I didn't want to leave backgrounds unsupported. To that end, Strike-Chan making SoB was a huge solid

>At this point, if someone claims an Imperial Guard jump (or something like Ciaphas Cain), I'll go Deathwatch, working other background options into things like techmarines, chaplains, and librarians

>If someone claims a Space Marine jump (or Black Crusade has enough support for them), I'll do Only War, with same logic as above

>>53568532
The Emperor was himself the strongest single Psyker in the galaxy, that said he was not fond of having untrained Psykers around and was stingy with the knowledge needed to be one safely since it would reveal the existence of chaos to the group he wanted kept the furthest away from it.

>>53568577
>is that actually a thing in universe?
There are humans who are allowed to join orks if they can keep up, yes. Most get treated like grots unless they are especially orky.

Conversely, there are also orks that love the fuck out of the Imperium or the Emperor because they think they're tough and badass. Some of these are willing to work as mercs for the Imperium.

>>53568516
New-lore states that the Necrons have more tomb-worlds than the Imperium has citzens.

Eldar had many times the population of the Necrons, the sheer number of Eldar in the galaxy was staggering.

>>53568516
The Eldar at their height were basically the Time Lords on a smaller scale. And they were, almost as a whole, engaging in depraved sex and torture. And they were all powerfully psychic where the Warp is shaped by the beliefs and emotions of mortal beings, with more psychically powerful ones having more effect. So a race of psychic demigods that covered the entire galaxy essentially all engaged in a massive, centuries-long murderfuck orgy.

The Eldar themselves could actually create gods purposefully to serve as tools because they knew how the process worked. But when they got lost in hedonism, they accidentally created a new god with far more power and sway than the others.

>>53568488
Yesteryear.

>>53568577
>but is that actually a thing in universe?
There is a planet where there exists Humans who have taken after the Orks. Gorkamorka is a weird place, with Digganobs.

>>53568577
>well, if any non-ork could, a jumper could. Indeed, mfw leading a WAAGH that way.
>but is that actually a thing in universe?
Not that I know of, but what's more Orky than convincing Orks you're one of them by painting yourself green and then punching one of them?

>>53568532
Emperor approved of humanity evolving into a race of super psykers. He thought present psykers were too unstable though so he wanted oversight over them to prevent any issues.

A lot of the shit that make people think he hated Psykers is the product of shit he did to placate Russ and Mortarian in the short term because they were whiny cunts and he was busy.

>>53567262
>Whale Hitler
Did nothing wrong. Gas the DBs, exaltation war now. Disappearance of Scarlet Empress best day of my life.

>>53568589
>New-lore states that the Necrons have more tomb-worlds than the Imperium has citzens.
You're being hyperbolic, right?

Because that is an inconceivably large number of necrons.

>>53568589
>New-lore states that the Necrons have more tomb-worlds than the Imperium has citzens.
YOOOUUUUU fucking what
Imperium is supposed to be trillions strong, I don't think there are that many planets in the galaxy (certainly not with all the ones getting blasted to smithereens by various factions)
>>53568587
>>53568604
I like this plan, maybe rope in a few other species and go full wild-hunt with it

>>53568645
It probably is just armybook wank. Same as the whole DUDE MAYBE ALL THESE FLEETS ARE SCOUTS AND THERE'S A SUPER BIG ONE COMING wank that the Tyranids get, and the THE CHAOS GODS ARE LITERALLY OMNIPOTENT GUYS that Chaos gets. Basically all the villains get some retarded shit like this that the lore doesn't otherwise substantiate.

>>53568645
>>53568659
Maybe they were being hyperbolic in the books, but this is Black Library so it might be literal.

Also remember that a 'tomb-world' can be a shitty asteroid with a tomb inside.

>>53568577
Someone was working on a Ciaphas Cain jump. Has he shown up lately?

>>53568516
Gods in 40K are created by emotion and belief, the space elves are living weapons designed to be the most psychically active species possible so their emotions and beliefs had an especially strong impact on gods.

Their impact was so strong and their knowledge of the warp was so great that they could create gods to serve their purposes by directing their thoughts and emotions towards that goal.

Eventually their empire was so big with so many space elves who were so bored that most of them descended into decadence and hedonism. This went on for a long time until it got so bad that their collective psychic strength birthed a new Chaos god and with their own manufactured gods weakened by the Eldars' decadence they had no defense against She who Thirsts.

>40k is a shithole with incoherent lore and dumb as fuck metaphysics which don't make any sense at the best of times
What else is new?

>>53568666
Satan has a point.

>>53568644
>Did nothing wrong.
He was cucking his Solar by fucking his wife.

Granted, his Solar was an evil cunt who was using his powers to rape Dragonblooded girls and then forcing them not to tell anyone, but still.

>>53567549
>character pulls a chaplin and doesn't win a contest of dressing as themself
10/10 idea, gotta write that when I pick up a non-OC companion.

>>53568685
Whale Hitler sounds better all the time.

>>53568577
I kind of want to see all 4 of those happen at some point.

>>53568683
Well there's a Primarch playing kissy-face with his Eldar waifu now. That's pretty new.

>>53568577
Hey, I've actually been working on Deathwatch!

I think I said so a while back? I might not have posted about it.

>>53568700
The only real bad thing about him is that he's an exalt. If only he weren't an exalt, people probably wouldn't hate him so much. Something about how we expect people with super powers who are meant to be responsible acting like monsters and incompetent douche-bags making them unlikable.

>>53568700
That's ignoring the fact that Whale Hitler supported the actions of his Solar, feels guilty for cucking him, and half of the reason he wants to genocide Dragonblooded is that they killed his Solar. The other half is that they also killed his Solar's wife that he was fucking. Picking Whale Hitler is NOT a decision against his Solar, cucking or not.

>>53568733
That mostly only applies to Solars.

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>>53568666
You make a fine point Satan.

>>53568683
as an innate problem with soft sci-fi, fantasy, game adaptations, and long-running series with multiple authors, this should be expected

>>53568732
Haven't been watching the thread, so I wouldn't know. Got a WIP, or at least some ideas to throw around?

>>53568732
>Hey, I've actually been working on Deathwatch!
>I think I said so a while back? I might not have posted about it.
No you did. I remember Red offering to send you her Deathwatch RPG books and I remember then telling you just to get them of the mega in the 40K RPG thread.

>>53568685
>Granted, his Solar was an evil cunt who was using his powers to rape Dragonblooded girls and then forcing them not to tell anyone, but still.
Wait what?

>>53568509
Nechronica has such cool shit. There's that one ability that lets you just constantly ooze gore, which admittedly isn't very useful, but I've got the idea to combine that with some size increases, some shapeshifting and a Cofagrigus alt-form for something that'll hopefully be pretty awesome. That was kind of my plan too actually

Oh yeah, you probably won't have population issues until many many years down the line, and there's enough space-warping stuff to keep that going for ages. Also, have you considered 40k stuff to help with your ship? The setting is known for some pretty big ones after all. And I'll keep trying to remember any other perks/items that could help in that regard, since I wanna see how big your ship can get.

I'm not sure what my ultimate goal with the new project will be, but I want at least a good sized planet's worth of space to populate with life and infrastructure, which is gonna take some planning. Heck, the planet itself might even be alive by the end. It'll basically be a combination playground, biosphere, home, industrial center, and the start of a new civilization for my seemingly endless doomed children. It might look a little odd to casual observers, since I intend for the children to have a wonderfully safe and enriching environment, but I'm also stupidly in love with a lot of horror aesthetic stuff. So a lot of it will look pretty spooky, but none of the stuff around the kids is actually harmful to them.

>>53568723
>Well there's a Primarch playing kissy-face with his Eldar waifu now. That's pretty new.
That didn't happen okay. Just like the End Times didn't happen.

Oh fuck it fine Fantasy is dead and 40K is dying. You happy I stopped lying to myself.

>>53568752
Solars right? You really shouldn't expect anything more from them. The fact that you thought they would be any better than that indicates something wrong with your perceptions of reality, because every solar is like this as a rule.

>>53566672
Except Scion can't be hit unless he lets them.
Sting can't touch him, he just dodges with an automatically activating PtV.
They had to get Scion suicidal enough to ignore his own PtV before they could hit.

>>53568752
>Wait what?
The Great Curse drives Solars into hedonism and insanity. It manifested in this particular Solar in being a narcissistic rapist who abused his power to rape all the Dragonblooded women under his control, and then force them to swear oaths that prevented them from telling anybody else about it.

This is in contrast to how he was in the past, back in Leviathan's previous life where he was a female and this Solar's first wife. They together were supposed to be an honorable and virtuous couple, beloved by all their Dragonblooded and mortals for their courage and fairness in commanding the navy. Pretty different from their next lives, where the Solar became a complete monster and Leviathan a hypocritical bastard. Solar got the worst of it, but that's how the Great Curse rolls.

>>53568783
>implying this isn't the best 40k or FF have been in half a decade

>>53568784
>Solars right? You really shouldn't expect anything more from them. The fact that you thought they would be any better than that indicates something wrong with your perceptions of reality, because every solar is like this as a rule.
No I know Solars are assholes I just don't remember this guy.

>>53568780
Misquote.

>>53568749
Man, I wish. I've been trying to read through the entire mega I downloaded first. I've gotten through most of the actual sourcebooks and one of the scenarios. There's so much shit in this game that I'm trying to figure out what parts it would be smart to include without having a 50+ pages of partially ripped of description text.

Part of me kinda wants to just do a base jump that's along the lines of 'buy this skill', 'buy this augment', etc and then have DLC based off of the official scenarios.

>>53568813
Whoops, my bad.

>>53568513

It should be obvious who it was aimed at, but yeah.

>>53568792
>implying that isn't just how solars normally are by default
>implying that wouldn't have happened without the great curse
That's really a cop out you know. You can't just rape, torture, and murder people, and then turn around and say 'a magical curse made me do it! It's totally not my fault, I'm exempt from all responsibility for my actions.'

>>53568838
I hate people who whine about lore while at the same time trying to force their own fanon as actual fact. It's one thing to say you don't like the actual lore, or to try and construct fanon, but don't go around saying "Fuck you my fanon is fact!" like that.

>>53568780
Is your idea to become a sick giant coffin that literally sprays blood and guts from its confines? Because that's what it sounds like and I approve.

Sure thing! Since you're curious I'll go get the rough, rounded estimates I got when I got through all the math.

-Final Ship Dimension Estimates (Meters): 49,600m long / 35,960m wingspan / 10,912m wide body / 19,840m High (Highest) / 13,640m High (Shortest)
-Final Ship Dimension Estimates (Kilometers): 49.6km long / 35.9km wingspan / 10.9km wide body / 19.8km High (Highest) / 13.6km High (Shortest)

Damn dude, an entire zombie world that's actually rich in culture and life would be amazing as it is terrifying. Be sure to tell me some other time when you figure things out.

>It might look a little odd to casual observers, since I intend for the children to have a wonderfully safe and enriching environment, but I'm also stupidly in love with a lot of horror aesthetic stuff.
I know exactly how you feel, I do. I try to be nice and friendly and the good guy, but the bad guys have always looked coolest, so there's a bit of a disconnect there.

>>53566821
No game no life. Get them in a game for an unspecified prize. Then claim their soul when you win.

>>53568838
Also, all these Solars except like 12 of them willingly cosigned themselves to oblivion when they were free of the curse and realized what they had done, all while rejecting an offer at immortality and their old powers back.

>>53568838
Unless you know you have a magical curse that made you do it. Which they explicitly do.

It's totally possible for Solars to play the tragic hero archetype.

>>53565252
Happy to see i was not the only one whose response to black bullet was "Fuck this universe everyone into the demiplane". Lucy route ftw.

>>53568509
Thanks senpai, but not really relevant to my question. Please assume that I have the ability to permanently kill daemons. If I kill scores of them, will that negatively affect anything else?

>>53568932
>Damning humanity to extinction.

Back from work, what the fuck did I miss in the last six hours.

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>>53568946
The vast majority of daemons, no. Particularly special or powerful daemons might release a powerful death scream that kills people or psykers within a certain radius. One called the Cacaodaemonus, who was so powerful it could enslave multiple solar systems at once, released a scream that killed every psyker in that same area when it died, along with blinding any astropath who was looking in its direction.

>>53568968
>>53568946
And by blinding here, I mean it burnt out their ability to see the astronomicon. Tore apart their psyker abilities without killing them. Shredded parts of their souls.

>>53568577
>>53568483
>>53568732
anyways, unless there's an Only War claim I missed, I'd say that makes it official. I'll start working on it in the next few days. handy since, IIRC, OW's regiment creation was more developed than DW's chapter creation
>>53568822
Mostly it comes down to how you're organizing backgrounds/perk trees. For example, if its centered around specialties from the book, find a smattering of talents and skill proficiencies that exemplify that, and reframe them as perks.

Anyone who says "Solars are assholes" is an edgy hipster trying to be different. Prove me wrong without screaming "GREAT CURSE" at me.

>>53568993
Oh, dude. Saw your question last thread - Echoanon never finished Yakuza. All we have is the pastebin wip https://pastebin.com/88b96muF

... and sorry for giving up that claim to him. I mean it didn't matter anyway but, I still feel kinda bad about how it all worked out.

>>53568995
Solars are Greek Heroes. They can indeed be assholes without the effects of the Great Curse, it simply maximized and corrupted them all into being the biggest assholes possible, even if they weren't at the start.

>>53568857
With way too many arms and a bunch of shark teeth yeah. Glad you approve.

That's a pretty big boy I gotta say. But do you know what would make it better? Because I'm pretty sure you know what would make it better. Working out the floorspace would probably be a nightmare though, with all of the dimensional shenanigans in place, which are only going to get even more crazy.

Sure thing! It's more fun to share stuff like this than to just keep it in a notebook.

Right? Like don't get me wrong, all that marble pillar and golden fountain stuff is really nice and all, not gonna pretend that it isn't a much more sane and, typically, comfortable option. But good luck telling me that while I'm trying to figure out how to make these perfectly serviceable machines look rusty and have the walls bleed on command. But hey, at least you are a good guy! And I remember this one perk that would make people judge you by your actions, no matter how scary you seemed? Extrapolating that to your stuff somehow might help.

>>53568995
They are literally living weapons that grew FAR more powerful than originally intended, and are still human with all the flaws that come with it.

Note:I love Solars, I'm just being a pedantic asshole.

>>53569012
Reminder that a lot of the Greek Heroes suffered from tragedy because of the gods (usually Hera) fucking with them, but Jason was such a massive dick that he fucked himself over.

>>53568902
Nah, fuck that. Solars are guilty of everything they've ever done regardless of evil curses.

>>53569010
pity, don't suppose anyone's in a position to poke him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6AuvA-tl3Y

>>53568995
>implying believing Solars to be pieces of shit regardless of the Great Curse isn't the mainsteam school of thought

>>53569055
Reminder that Jason was helped by a cute innocent girl but abandoned her to die after knocking her up all because he wanted to chase other women.

>>53568968
>>53568984
So sounds I need to get some soul protection, then. And a way to bring them to isolated areas. Thanks again, mate.

>>53569097
>>53569078
You come across like you're the exalted-hating ass being salty as usual.

>>53569084
Nope. He pretty much gave it up after the mockery he got over the WIP coupled with some of of his earlier goof-ups.

Never worked on it anymore after that.

>>53569100
Reminder that Jason has directly and indirectly ruined the lives of many people, and that in the end it was all for nothing.

>>53569084
Somebody else will pick up the claim or eventually somebody elsewhere that doesn't know about Echoanon will pick it up and do it.