Paizo Games General (Pathfinder & Starfinder) /pgg/ (for

>>53562186
Why bother including starfinder as a main topic of discussion where there's nothing usable about it yet?

>>53562203
There's playtest videos, class and mechanics previews, plus there's lots of room for lore speculation and talking about potential campaign ideas.

>>53562203

I didn't though? The thread question applies to pathfinder obviously...

>>53562186
I've never encounter any homebrew that I liked that I didn't directly create myself. It's not like I haven't tried, either, but most of it either sounds lame or looks broke as fuck.

Dragons 2 greentext?

I want to take the revolutionary setting of Galt and amplify it for Starfinder. Should I just have a whole planet for it in constant revolutionary vs counter revolutionary chaos or cast it as a creeping evil across the Pact Worlds spreading terror and upheaval a la communism?

>>53562203
Because autism and honestly I agree with you, when Starfinder release, I rather that SF have its own general and don't mix with Pathfinder.

>>53562330

Well, we do have the Vast which can have practically anything so some planet that exist in the Vast that has this and then has it's forces spreading it's influences in the Pact Worlds is doable.

>>53562287
It had a crossover with LoBaF

>>53562203
>>53562353
At first I did agree with you, but the more I've thought about it the more I think it provides an injection of new content, new lore, and other new stuff for the general to talk about and pick apart. It's good for discussion, at least until we exhaust the subject.

>>53562353
Why dilute the two paizo lines when the player bases overlap? It's not like we have so much thrilling pathfinder discussion every thread that it'd be drowned out by starfinder. The two can coexist easily.

>>53562391

Not to mention, while the rules for SF are different from PF the two are still linked lore wise so it's not like someone isn't going to find some way to shoehorn PF stuff into SF.

>Hey look the helmet of a Grey Maiden is up for auction, totally gotta steal it

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>>53562423
>Congratulations you find Golarion!
>it was stuck in some interdimensional portal bullshit
>it drained all your character skills and level, roll a pathfinder character!

>>53562423
If a Grey Maiden also becomes a Grey Gardener does she become a different shade of grey?

>>53562471
>Fifty Shades of Grey Maiden

>>53562471
Yeah, though the change is by about 50 or so shades

I like how Starfinder splits the difference between 40K and Hitchhiker's Guide by making the Drift not weird and stupid or insane and instantly lethal.

>>53562484
Sounds fitting for a CotCT erp session

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Here's a fun though exercise. Take you current App/Char Backstory, now imagine it narrated by Gilbert Godfried

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>>53562466

>It seems Golarion was turned into a giant monster
>Roll for initiative!

>>53562186
Does improved evasion work on spells that are all-or-nothing?

Like, not reflex half, but rather, "save or X" with no secondary effects?

Fuck the skill system. Seriously.

Fuck whoever designed fighter too.

>>53562523
I prefer Bobcat Goldthwait

Recruiting:
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77293/ironfang-invasion-adventure-path
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78224/chronicles-of-the-golden-chalice
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78606/hells-saboteurs
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77329/something-wicked-comes-this-way
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78876/depths-of-darkess-a-pathfinder-adventure

>>53562538
No, it's very specific when it applies.

>>53562540
Why are posting in Paizo's general then? Both of those were designed by WotC for 3.0 / 3.5

>>53562506
No but now that they've decided to put 9th level casting back in, and made it a "gift" from one of the deities, it's probably going to turn paizo-retarded within a few APs.

>>53562523
how is this fun

>>53562540
Welcome to finally 3.PF, and congrats on your first steps to becoming your average jaded /pfg/ goer

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>>53562287
We had a late start so we were only able to play for a couple hours, but briefly it went like this:

>the party minus Rory ends up in some kind of dungeon literally made of ice
>they explore, while Rinka is unlocking a door it turns out to not be a door at all and is an ice elemental
>several more pop up from the ground and surprise the party, Rinka gets hit hard but the party overpowers several elementals
>the remainder retreat into the icy floor, Calsi uses an Unseen Servant to pound the ground and create a distraction
>this works an and another elemental gets destroyed as it pops out of the ground to attack the servant, the last remaining elemental retreats
>following it, they come to a dead end, but actually there's an illusory wall that leads into a room beyond, the floor of which is decorated by a mural
>the mural depicts three white dragons. over time one has turned into a skeleton, one has grafted heads from a multi-headed beast onto itself, and one has sailed away on a ship
>the party quickly deduces these to be Lua, Tiu, and apparently a third youngest sister. Tiu seems to be involved in the illegal Thuvian magic item trade

and that's where we stopped

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>>53562523
>11 pages
>Much of it dialogue
>Dialogue by female characters.

Stop. I can only get so erect.

>>53562566
Its an esoteric kind of fun

>>53562546
Half of those have like 50 applications already banked with no response from the GM. Can we trim these down to actual games that might have a chance of being played?

>>53562570
>Rory
Why would you do this to your game?

>>53562595
>no response from the GM
GMs here don't always close apps early, they wait until the last moment most of the time or announce ahead of time. Overlewd got like 60 applications, PLD like 40.

>>53562533
Dammit Hojo, stop trying to fuck with planets already!

>>53562570
>minus Rory
Did he finally get kicked to the curb?

>>53562617

>>53562647

He couldn't show up for the game that week.

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>>53562523
Better yet: Your character's backstory summed up by Waldorf and Statler.

Cast your vote! Who should get into Golden Chalice?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13090610

>>53562693
>This half-orc is a credit to his race.
>Which one?
>The 50 meter run
>DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!

>>53562722
I can't vote for any of these, there's no gnomes

aaaaaaaaaaa I can't finish my app about unrequited love!

>>53562566
The lewder the content the better it gets. Imagine him voicing an ERP scene.

Actually, pair him up with Danny DeVito and you can turn basically anything sexual into pure hilarity.

>"Say, baby, put down that pipe and get my pipe up."
>She giggled in response. At just 5'2, she had a gigantic bust that both helped and hurt her depending on the situation. "These cocks are uncanny"
>Ashley's breasts swelled the cotton fabric, and her nipples were clearly outlined underneath.
>"These cocks are uncanny" he said.
>Though she knew Brad was not Mr.Right, she knew he looked good enough to be Mr.Right.Now. "This would go in a lot easier if I was drunk."
>"Good", he said. "Now turn around. Unbutton your shirt, and allow it to drop from your shoulders. Then stroke the front wall of your vagina"

>>53562423
The rules are still 3.PF shit.

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Serious discussion guys.

Who here has actually played DHB's martials. What are you experience with them? I'm curious but unsure.

I hope spinal-mounted weapons are a thing in Starfinder.

>>53562756
You better hustle or I'm going to post mine first.

>>53562839
They better be.
Any starfighter that can't pack a battleship's main turret guns as a spinal mount has no hope at even intercepting shit.

I want to play a martial in JttW with the theme of 'channeling spirits'. Unfortunately most spirit channelers seem to be casters.

I am mainly thinking of this to make use of the myriad of small gods.

What martials have this theme?

>>53562839
Unless it's for planetary bombardment or extreme long range attack, a spinal mount is ridiculously inefficient.

>>53562884
Avowed?

>>53562891
Surprisingly enough, both are extremely useful in orbital warfare.

>>53562871
A goblin starfighter that's just a gun with maneuvering thrusters, and after every shot he has to hand crank the power back on because it drains its entire battery stores after one.

>>53562722
Who are you?

>>53562884
Avowed (Divine) with the Guardian Spirit feat, second half of Gestalt is a martial class.

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>>53562839
>>53562871
>>53562891

This gets me to wondering. Hot Starship on starship action is probably not something you'll see a whole lot of in Pact World Space but I would love to see various pirate empires duking it out with their own fighter pilots and mercenaries defending their territory or escorting merchants through literall gang wars in space.

>>53562884
Medium (Wendo Caller) or Kami Medium if you don't like Avowed. Pick a CHA-based initiator on the other side and go to town

>>53562949
If you're a Starfinder pirate, do you target ships in real space near inhabited systems or in the Drift between known routes?

>>53562949
Ship combat is going to be pretty common considering the Free Captains and Aspis Consortium are a thing, but in the Vast there should be pirate empires and all sorts of junk!

>>53562949
>Hot Starship on starship action is probably not something you'll see a whole lot of in Pact World Space

I disagree, how else does the Azlanti Star Empire flex its authority over known space?

>>53563009
HAIL AZLANT!

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>>53562973

Depends on what sort of outfit I'm running. If I'm aligned with the criminal organizations planet side my thing may be to target rivals and disrupt their business with some targets of oppurtiny on the side. If I don't give a shit what dirt eating planet side mongrels think or want I take their shit.

>>53562997
>>53563009

I see, my concern was there wouldn't be enough action in the Pact Worlds to run a game where everyone is an ace pilot. Fear absolved.

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How do I build my Archer Occultist?

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>>53562949
Well here's the thing; The whole point of fighters - always has been - is that while less efficient budget-wise (miniaturization is a costly bitch) it's still WAY fucking cheaper to put something that can tear a hole through the big capital ship on something small enough to land inside said ship that only needs one or two people to pilot it. No matter how good defenses get, it's always a simple matter to put a few weapons capable of breaking through on something smaller. The weapons (especially in case of missiles) may not be smaller than the ones used by the larger vehicle at all, just that less are carried, and the smaller ship has less other functions which directly makes it cheaper, lower-crew (though more automation costs) and lighter.

Once you can detach certain non-combat-essential systems and handle them someplace else, like a hangar or base, that's when you get 'fighters'. No need for maintenance corridors and a galley, it comes back home for that.

Even with drones and missiles as options this only changes the relative duties of the 'fighter' from "torpedo divebomber" of the old days to "sensor-envelope-extending killer-drone-carrier with some kind of heavy weapon of its own since it's already decently big to begin with"

In the most stable areas, you probably have more corvettes or the like on long patrol routes keeping relative peace, with most forces either elsewhere or on training/standby. However the further out you go, yeah; you'll start seeing

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>>53563055
AZLANT ENDURES! Absalom Station is ours by DIVINE RIGHT!

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>>53563059
for a second there I thought that was a picture of best girl

>>53563103
A few flak turrets will get rid of pesky fighters.

>>53563101
You pick Battle Host and take a bow.

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>>53563103

While I understand fully what you're saying. Drones does not a knightly lineage of warriors who practice the most esteemed form of combat as well as being handy with a sword and pisotl.

>>53562722
I don't care who gets in

i care about who gets fucked

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>>53562546

>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78876/depths-of-darkess-a-pathfinder-adventure

How have we missed this gem of an application?

>>53563204
Tonight.

Rainyday.

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Tell me /pfg/, I need information on some 3pp content out there, specifically "good"-ish 3pp content for the Monk. Is there any such content that you know of and are willing to share?

>>53563186
Yeah but anyone using a sword and pistol inside their cockpit probably just fucking blew out their controls.

>>53563204
I'd fuck the kobold!

>>53563213
Who doesn't love ginger THICC?

>>53563213
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78876/depths-of-darkess-a-pathfinder-adventure

Those apps are a gold mine.

My personal favorite is:
> I am 34 years old and I am a life long gamer. I have always had interest in Dark Themed game

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>>53563330
>2 foot tall

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>>53563213

>>53563219
Don't you know she's the one doing the fucking

>>53563331
BBW is not thicc, it's fat.

>>53563254
DSP has an archetype for the monk that gives it initiating.

There's the Surge Fist Monk from Legendary Kineticists, along with that one pdf from Everyman gaming that gives more balanced conversions of Monk archetypes to unchained monk

>>53563111
>Azlanti deep cover agent posing as a Free Captain who joined the Aspis Consortium and is a triple agent for the Starfinders.

>>53563101

Couldn't tell you about Occultist, but Point-Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, Deadly Aim, Manyshot, and Clustered Shot are pretty standard for archers. Then again, Deadly Aim may be a tough penalty for a 3/4 BAB.

>>53563341
Do you think these people just have a bunch of random phrases? Like, if it was 'Shining Light: A Pathfinder Adventure' would they say 'I am 34 years old and I am a life long gamer. I have always had an interest in Light Themed game'?

>>53563367
This.

BBW is personals ads code for morbidly-grotesque obesity. Where the folds above her breasts smell like bad pussy, and anything below the belt (metaphorically; no belts exist that can cover this distance) would kill an otyugh with but a whiff.

Thicc is already chubby, but BBW sees "thicc" as near-death anorexia.

>>53563425
They would.
It's not random though. Their vocabulary and therefore ability to formulate concepts and trains of thought is just that limited.

>>53563425
I think they're just so thirsty for a game, that they just feign interest in whatever the game is about.

Like editing your resume to include the keywords for a job.

How do I boost my charisma apart from the level-up bonuses and a headband of Charisma and pumping Charisma up at level 1? I've got 26 Charisma by Level 10 and that feels really low. How can I improve that number?

>>53563425
>>53563461

No no, they do it because that's what application culture is outside of /pfg/. As someone who spent a solid year using the LFG for games, DMs typically expect to know a bit about the player as much as the player character - it's so they know what to expect voice and personality wise, you see. Nobody wants to accept an 18 year old busty half-Elf ranger and join the Skype call to hear a deep Southern drawl.

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>>53563213

After 5 years in his master wizard tower ,Armored with father dagger, his mother dragonhead staff, a hooded blue robe. He left the Kingdom for a journey of adventure to join the pathfinder society, be a hero to the common people as well as an archmage/archwizard, and to find a human redhead bbw woman as a lover ( he's always love human women with huge chest and huge butts, blame it on the master he always have women coming over to his tower) Also his greatest lesson that Xuntel taught him is that you must have patients to be a great wizard, and never harm an innocent.

>>53563341
>posting applications outside of the applications thread
What's with this etiquette?

>>53563481
>18+2 lv1
>+2 from lv4/8
>+6 headband
You should at the very least have 28 by now, son.

>>53563425
>I have x years of experience playing this game
Why the fuck do they keep doing this?

>>53563558
Alrighty, you're right- I didn't wanna spend all my WBL on a Charisma headband

but after realizing I'm going for a CHA-to-everything build that was a stupid thought. 28 Charisma it is then

>>53563492
I think the joke is that a 34 year old wrote that, not that the person gave their age.

>>53563524
R20 randos don't actually read anything posted about games, they just shotgun applications. This is pretty apparent when they blatantly ignore chargen rules ("I'm using a 40RP half-elephant, half-tree custom race, if that's not cool I can change it to human"), a complete lack of application ("Hi can I still join?"), or occasionally by randomly requesting to play a character which somebody else applied with ("I really feel like I could capture the dark, edgy nature of that character").

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>tfw keep losing motivation to finish Flower Court App, especially when I know U won't even be able to attend so they'd just be a potential NPC as best
>tfw can almost never stay motivated to make an actual charsheet unless its for a game with my meatspace friends
Why is it so hard /pfg/

>>53563606
Wait I've never seen that last one before.

... Show me.

>>53563606
When did that first one happen? I only remember the other two happening to RotJR.

>>53563627
It was in RotJR, the LFG of which has now 404'd. Basically there was a fairly edgy but mostly unoffensive character application. I forget the name.

Then some roll20 rando showed up and said "Nice character, I'll take it!"

>>53563626
>Can't attend
I thought the game had a pretty open scheduling.

>>53563626
Char sheet is easy for me because I don't give a damn. The hard part is getting this letter and story right. I don't wanna get bullied...

>>53563321

>The ship is critially damaged so the barbarian jumps out and attacks another ship

>>53563644
My summer schedule is pretty erratic, such that I can almost never guarantee a set time to attend any games

>>53563626
What character?

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>>53563680
>so the barbarian jumps out and attacks another ship
Why can't lvl20 martials be like this guy?

>>53563642
It was called Anja. I remember because this came up a little while ago.

>>53563254
There are from options from Quintessential Monk that still work well. New weapons, and martial art technique abilities that are particularly cool. Check out issue 1 and issue 2

>>53563714
For the most part thats exactly what barbarians do.

>>53563699
I'm trying t make a Not!Kenshiro who's a former professional Pankrator, but I just can't get motivated to actually get him pulled all together.

>>53563797
Don't bother, then. There's no shame in sitting this one out, you could always use the idea again elsewhere.

>>53563808
That's probably for the best. I mean, I've got the skeleton for him together, so it might just be smarter to hold on to said skeleton and use it at a later date to fill out.

>>53562186

Meme Master SEagle applied for Ensoulment!!

>>53563521
>Also his greatest lesson that Xuntel taught him is that you must have patients to be a great wizard

He's a doctor?

>>53563627
Not sure if this works for people who didn't apply to RotJR:
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4438676/application-for-gartok/?pageforid=4473662#post-4473662

>>53563883
I see it, and wow, that's ridiculous.

Rolled 2, 1 + 3 = 6 (2d6 + 3)

>>53563873
>THICC DICC

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So tell me, is SoM kill? All I heard was that they were pulling the plug on the playtest to remove Focus, and that was it from then on. Is ded?

>>53563873

Oh let me guess its Amalthe-

>Its a dude

STOP THE GOD DAMN PRESSES!!

>>53563918
How unfortunate.

>>53563883
... wow. Just... wow.

>>53563930
Nah, they actually just sent out the new playtest links to backers today. Martial focus is still a thing, but they removed it being dedicated to a specific sphere.

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Anyone familiar with the Aethera Campagin Setting by Legendary Games? Is it any good?

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>>53563873
>>53563936

He's got good taste in dudes at least.

>>53562533
Mite b good

I need a monster statblock for something like an illithid, but at like, CR 5 or 6. It's supposed to be a girl half transformed into a tentacle monster basically.

Any suggestions?

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>>53563987
>Nah, they actually just sent out the new playtest links to backers today.
LINKS
W H E N
H
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>>53564049
Try the teifling bonus monsterpart rules and give her class levels. (Or just convert an illithid and give it girl parts)

>>53563204
I want to see the two inquisitors fuck

they're even both from the same religion! i can see the love sparking already...

>>53563987
>We're stuck on the old versions

Anyone have the new links?
2hu?

>>53564342
SEagle please, contain yourself.

>>53562722

>voting for meme kobold because UNF THICKER

>not voting for Tarkus the Idiot

I hope this rando gets in just to spite all of you faggots.

Posting here in need of help since Roll20 updated their shit.

How do I get rid of Weapon Notes?

Before I'd simply delete it out the macro.
Now it only shows an ID, and I got no idea what to do with it.
Tried deleting {{weapon notes=weapon notes}} under settings for the attack template, and fucking nothing.

And if you're wondering, stuff is written in Weapon Notes for great convenience, but with a roll it will show it, and no one wants that.

Would really appreciate the help.

>>53564427
What, do you prefer incest anon?

>>53564510
T-thick? Doesn't that mean fat?

She's n-not fat!

>>53564555
Of course I do, the more forbidden the better, but I'm not ejaculating my desires all over the thread like SEagle was.

>>53564593
She's thick as a milkshake, be careful or someone's going to drink her up!

>>53564598
Nobody can find you here, don't you want to see the forbidden love between that inquisitor and her brother?

So beyond otyuh style (3 damn feats) and a magic enhacement for weapons (assuming you use weapons) there's nothing to increase 5ft step?

I've joined my friend's campaign and I wanna make the Hassassins in it, what's the best way to do this without it turning it into Assassin's Creed?

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>>53564024

It had to be Enoch

From the moment i laid eyes on him, it had to be.

Now i just have to figure out how to play a Godhand.

>>53563918
Pretending that he's going to do anything other than fingerblast her with his godhand.

>>53564652
You want the Slayer class; full BAB, good skills, focus on stealth and sneak attacks and poison.

>>53564697
Already did, I should have been more specific. I meant the organization.

Hey, I would like some class recommendations. Fundamentally, I am looking to play a character that focuses on buff/debuff. Doing a lot of damage is not a real priority to me, as other people that I play with typically spec for that. Having another guy dishing out damage won't necessarily be contributing as much as making the damage dealers more accurate, have more actions, be supported (such as bless weapon casting to bypass DR), and reducing enemy action economy or numbers.

I'm really enjoying my bard who has a net, intimidates, and UMDs up the wazoo.

I think that I'll enjoy my alchemist once I get specialized bombs, such as frost bombs and tanglefoot bombs. But the reduced cost from crafting is already super nifty.

Mesmerist is interesting to me.

Can a good buff/debuffer be made with an inquisitor?

Any other good classes for this? I would prefer not to play a character that is min-maxed, and would like to have utility outside of combat, too.

>>53562827
G-guys?

>>53564728
Hassassins are just pot-smoking expert killers in an age when trained assassins weren't a thing...

... So, if you want to be a member of a Hassassins-like organization, check out the Red Mantis, or Daggermark.

>>53564740
witch

>>53564771

I think you mean smug witch.

Forgive me for the horrible words I must utter, but somebody might be dumb enough to make such an abomination.

Aldori Defender/Rostland Bravo gestalt.

>>53564781
That's a bit redundant, don't you think?

>>53562827
I haven't gotten a chance to play one yet, though I'm hoping to soon. Far as I can tell messing around with builds, they're really strong. The extra utility they offer goes further than PoW's combat options in my opinion, and I like that they seem to fall under Pathfinder design standards.

>Massive city
>home to grandest arena in world
>can be changed on a whim due to powerful magic
>basically WWE and all the drama that comes with it
>might be rigged might not
>players are newbies who have signed up
>mostly fighty and roleplay-y

Thoughts?

>>53564785
For what game?

>>53564827
Where does the roleplay fuel get inserted? Arena fights are also very very dry for Pathfinder.

>>53564827
I like it, if you want an in-setting place to set this you could even do Oppara or Tymon.

>>53562186
That picture fills me with indescribable terror; her life is resting entirely on that tiny clip, and judging by her garb I'm betting she's not from a society with advanced metallurgy.

>>53564845
In-between fights, of course. And occasional just before and after fights. WWE, remember? City-based roleplaying, too, reasonable number of things to do. Bit of dungeon crawling if they want. Maybe you can prove yourself to be a hero OUTSIDE of the ring!

>>53564771

Never played a prepared-caster before, and nervous about it. How do I play so my character doesn't suck two dicks at once by fucking up spell selection?

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Sorry if I missed this, but does the repo include image resources (e.g. a .png for monsters/characters/races/etc that aren't tied to a .pdf)? Checked both troves, the homebrew links, and a few others but didn't find anything.

>>53564889
>Not during fights
Every fight in every Pathfinder game ever should include banter, dramatic screaming, and long speeches on morality.

>spend all session RPing, getting to know each other and the NPCs, and learning lore
>no combat whatsoever
>but the inter-session time is now dediated to making plans to hunt a big ass dragon
good session or bad session?

>>53564986

Lovely session.

>>53564986

Depends on the group I guess. I could go months without combat, as long as interesting things are happening. But some people really like it.

Are there any rebuilds of 3.PF that make the game less of a dumpster fire?

>>53565116
At this time we know well enough that anything built on the skeleton of 3.X is going to be a dumpster fire by nature.

>>53564986
Good session, silly

>>53565188
Tell that to the idiots up thread shouting to the high heavens about Starfinder instead of discussing better systems they could move on to.

>>53564639
bumpo?

One last time! Long hair has a substantial lead.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13078770

>>53565326

Following Step lets you take a 10 ft step, but only to pursue someone taking a 5 ft step away from you.

How well received would a campaign of Kingmaker be if instead of adventurers from Brevoy, the party was a collection of monstrous races working for the fey to to take the land over?

I have a load of assets let from running Kingmaker, thinking of running a counter campaign instead of just dumping all of the maps and tokens.

>>53565567
Literally just Overlewd

>>53565567
God fuck off with Kingmaker, its literally the fucking worst.

>>53565567
>>53565587
Better than Overlewd.

>>53565567
I'd play it

>>53565587
>>53565610
What's Overlewd?

>>53565610
It IS Overlewd

>>53564986
Medium session. You don't sound very excited about it.

>>53565567
Depends DM, if we're playing the monstrous horde do we get to kidnap women and use them as breeding slaves? Can I play a manticore?

>>53565621
That's a good question. It's a /pfg/ game,
which is as much as I know of it

>>53565639
I had a long day at work, pretty tired is all.

>>53565646
I'm just looking into it now.

If I did run it, I would have to decide what strength of moster races and then if I would use what came of the old campaigns settlements as places to go after and make new hidden locations.

>>53565621
Don't hang around here very much?

It's a Kingmaker game in a homebrew setting where a bunch of monstrous factions ally to destroy the reigning government and institute their own rule.

>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78876/depths-of-darkess-a-pathfinder-adventure

>Any race 14 RP and under allowed (If you want a race with more RP such as the Suli, make a good case for it)

https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/5119353/

>Campaign about fighting drow
>Make a drider

>>53565683
I usually do not lurk generals unless I need pdfs or sometimes players.

One too many WoD generals years ago was enough for me.

Mainly curious about how people like "evil" games and kingmaker because I ran(read salvaged) what I could to run the drow campaign in throne of night. Which I do not recommend. When I saw what little I was given to work with, I had to convert it to 3.5 and run the game in Forgotten Realms and throw half the plot hooks out because book 3 is a pipe dream.

>>53565731
>A variant that has been reduced from 35 RP to 27 RP
Well at least they're being reasonable.

>>53565567
>the party was a collection of monstrous races working for the fey to to take the land over?

Oh my god, no. Kingmaker is fun because you're a bunch of big-dick adventurers taking over some prime real estate and doing whatever with it. This sounds more like... Generic loot n' conquer.

>>53565731
>Drider, but a nice drider
>Shelynite

Now there's some red flags

>>53565801
How many loot and conquer games do you get to be a part of that they become generic?

>>53565845
If you've been in one, you've been in them all. The only time Loot 'n Conquer can be interesting is if you make it more like Raiders or Vikings, not whatever this tripe is.

>>53565762
Ehh, looking at it, it doesn't give that much really. I mean obviously it's ridiculous, just not as much as 27RP might imply.

/pfg/ is nothing but trash

GUYS I'M GONNA RUN KINGMAKER, AGAIN, EVERYONE LOVES KINGMAKER

fuck off nigger, run an actually interesting AP thats not pure garbage.

>>53565858
>If you've been in one, you've been in them all.
>getting into a loot N' conquer game
>getting into a game at all

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>>53565871
>actually interesting AP thats not pure garbage

>>53565881
Off the top of my head literally Iron Gods.

>>53565871
>an actually interesting AP thats not pure garbage.
So, a homebrew campaign?

>>53565892
You mean Iron trash

>>53565892
I wanna play Iron Gods...

>>53565892
Iron Gods is literal shit for the first too book, mediocre for the rest and either is multiple tpk slog fest or barely registers as a swift breeze.

>>53565871
NO GUYS I'M GONNA RUN WRATH OF THE RIGHTEOUS, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT INFAMOUSLY TERRIBLE AND MYTHIC IS FOR SURE FUN

>>53565892
>hamfisted, poorly-written tech rules
>let's just smoosh those in there after ripping out all the magic loot we could be giving the PCs
>also SCIENCE
>no, not anything cool or fun, but SCIENCE, like the kinds think is hip

>>53565925
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>53565925
NAH DUDE, YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED, HELLS REBELS, ANOTHER INFAMOUSLY BAD AP, BUT I'M GONNA MAKE IT EEEVIIIL EVEN THOUGH THATS JUST... FUCKING RETARDED

>>53565881
The only one that exists honestly is Curse of the Crimson Throne.

>>53565925
I really, really want to play a Wrath of the Righteous campaign.

>>53565958
YOU THINK YOU DO, BUT YOU DON'T.

MYTHIC IS NOTHING BUT TRASH

>>53565952
FUCK THAT NOISE, WE NEED A COUNCIL OF THIEVES CAMPAIGN THAT SLIDES INTO SECOND DARKNESS.

>>53565958
You don't. You might think you do, but you don't. There is nothing fun in Wrath of the Righteous.

>>53565979
>>53565984
I DON'T CARE, I WANT TO BE A BIG BAD CRUSADER DUDE AND I KNOW WHAT I WANT OUT OF MYTHIC.

>>53565980
OH YEAH THATS THE JAM

LETS HAVE PEOPLE ON LEVEL 3 FOR SIX FUCKING MONTHS, NGNHNGHN

I dont even know who is being a shit anymore.

I just know I have started planning something and it is going to upset you personally.

>>53566023
PLD living campaign?

>>53566016
>LETS HAVE PEOPLE ON LEVEL 3 FOR SIX FUCKING MONTHS, NGNHNGHN

AND THEN IT ENDS BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN HITS LEVEL 5 BECAUSE EVERYONE'S MORE INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT BULLSHIT THAN PLAYING THE GAME.

THAT'S THE SPOT.

>>53566023
Eh, to each his own. Some people will play it. Others won't. Honestly what do you have to lose going through with it? Your dignity?

I have some bad news for ya, anon

>>53566023
Skull and Shackles for Nightwalkers?

>>53566055
>EVERYONE'S MORE INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT BULLSHIT THAN PLAYING THE GAME

In one fell stroke you've encapsulated every /pfg/ game, and /pfg/ itself.

>>53565731

I am going to apply to this 50% because I feel so bad for the DM only getting randoms. 20 PB is harsh though.

So, anyone else waste 20 bucks on Throne of Night?

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>>53563873
>>53563918
>>53563936
>>53564024
>>53564659


So SEagle's going for a LITERAL ANGEL, As in a member of the heavenly host. Who is implied to know both Pre-fall Lucifer and The Archangel Michael.

Not to mention not Female or Thicc at all. Instead going for a perfectly sculpted hunk of a man.


He's gone mad. The over exposure of Thicc from Dragons 1 and 2 has turned him gay!!

> rework ensoulment app
> it's probably still not good enough

....... I just want to play for once. What makes a hero, though?

>>53566206
What app?

>>53566206
Getting up more often then you fall down.

>>53566055
The way I look at it, the point of the game is to have fun. If the players are having fun "bullshitting", then they are having goodrightfun.

>>53566206
DID YOU MAKE IT LONGER?

>>53566236

Yesssss. Bouncing back from failure. Working up from nothing. Refusing to surrender.

>>53566372

Shorter. More concise.

>>53566400
>Shorter. More concise.
GOOD MAN

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Alright, red pill me on Legendary Kinetictst. I heard it fixes the class, but how does it do so?

>>53566447
Burn no longer fucks with Nonlethal damage.

Battle Burn is like a 5e "short-rest" power, you get a small buffer of burn that you can use to pay for wild talents and stuff.

Internal Buffer doesn't have any shenanigans involving refilling it before you go to bed one day. It just starts full.

You also get Expanded Elements 1 level earlier.

>>53566253
Players often don't know what they really want, though. Sometimes,or rather all of the time, forcing them to actually do things is just what they were waiting for you to do.

>>53566253
So go roleplay in an MMO, then.

>>53566576
This sort of self-righteous, "play my way or you're having fun wrong" attitude is as stupid as all the other things that /pfg/ always seems to complain about.

>>53566624
I just don't see why you'd come together to play Pathfinder and then not play Pathfinder. You can side session for that.

>the shadowrun of space opera
>but also its literally just pathfinder so you can use bugbear stats in space

What are they thinking?

>>53566658
>the shadowrun of space opera
literally eclipse phase, go play that instead

>>53566655
There is no definition of "play Pathfinder" other than people sitting at a table using the Pathfinder rules system. People who spend a large amount of time debating their character philosophies are not playing any less than someone who wants constant battles and objectives.

Don't be a grognard.

>>53566658
>space opera
Does that even mean anything anymore? That phrase gets thrown around as much as thicc, cuck, racist, nazi, meme, fun, or any other buzzword

>>53566696
Characters spending their entire session "bullshitting" does not require using the Pathfinder rules system. By your own definition, playing Pathfinder requires using that rules system. So, again, why come together to play Pathfinder but then not play it?

>tfw app is 790 words and growing
AAAAAHH HOW DO I MAKE IT STOP?

>>53566759
>>53566665
Well I was about to ask is Eclipse Phase space opera, whatever that even means? Either way as far as I'm aware it doesn't have magic, fantasy races or anything else that would make it Shadowrun rather than just cyberpunky (whatever that means)

>>53566779
Man, are you the guy that says that the one pfg game that switched to Strike is a dead pfg game, because you sound like you are the guy that says that the one pfg game that switched to Strike is a dead pfg game?

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I want to work up an archetype for spiritualist where the Phantom is some sort of otherworldly alien spirit from the Dark Tapestry.

Any ideas for how to go about this or what sort of abilities it should have?

>>53566779
Then feel free to consider it this way: they are acting out characters while using Pathfinder as a rule system to resolve any combat or issues that arise.

Regardless, they're having fun with whatever you consider them to actually be doing, so whatever.

>>53566807
When wondering if something is a space opera or not, ask yourself: "Would this be an opera if not in space?". If no, then it's just science fiction, or science fantasy set in space.

>>53566824

Do operettas count?

>>53566810
Take a look at that one cleric archetype for Old Cult worshipers or whatever it's called.

>>53566819
Not that guy but I never got why people didn't just use a narrative system for narrative heavy games.

>>53566850
>Coming soon to /pfg/, "The Space Pirates of Penzance"

>>53566206
ANON NO
You're supposed to make what YOU want to make, not what you THINK a hero is.

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>>53566810

>>53566902
You should probably tell him that what he wants to make also better have an idea of what they think a hero is.

What are some ways I can play as a slime or an ooze, /pfg/?

>>53566853
I can see plenty of reasons. They may like the power and flexibility of Vancian magic, or they like the high-flying battles that PF with 3pp gives you in addition to heavy narratives. Or they might do it because it's more popular than a lot of the narrative-heavy ones. Or they might like being free to interact and act freely without rolling dice every step along the way. Or maybe they just like Pathfinder for some reason and are okay with finagling it to fit their table, even if it's not what the designers intended (like everyone who use 3pp like PoW does).

Even if, say, GURPS might fit a narrative story better from an outsider's perspective, it doesn't mean all groups who like narrative will choose it.

Any promising rules/mechanics change for PF?

>>53566810
>>53566909
In all seriousness though, look at the Aberrant Bloodline abilities and the Dark Tapestry and I think Outer Spheres Mysteries for the Oracle class.

>>53566824
But then what is an opera?

>>53566909
Honestly, it'd be rad if you broke a Lich's phylactery and it gained the power to detach its soul from its body to fuck those uppity adventurers up.

>>53566807
>Either way as far as I'm aware it doesn't have magic, fantasy races or anything else that would make it Shadowrun
Educate yourself, please.

>>53566983
You're an uncultured mongoloid.

>>53566934
There's only one true reason, though:
They're morons incapable of trying anything new.

>>53567022
Why mongoloid? He could be an uncultured Negroid or Caucasoid?

>gestalting Kineticist and Oracle

>Kineticist side has ended up with more spells and SLAs than the Oracle has

what the fuck have I done

>>53566882

>The party rolls for Stealth

https://youtu.be/WdJg6Duzzf4

Had a new session last night, I think it went really well!

>>53567094
Because those are truly nothing more than animals. Even using the word apes would be too kind.

Have the FFS people been around lately? There's some issues with the 2nd selection of aether circus.

>>53567107

That's nice. Anything particularly exciting happen?

>>53567159
Forrest doesn't really come around anymore, and Taveena was sentenced to the Gulag and mysteriously vanished from the Discord after she let slip what would potentially be in the PoW Errata. You might have to resign yourself to throwing feedback onto the GitP thread.

I'm wanting to do a sort of onmyoji character for JttW, and know that I want one gestalt half to be Avowed; any ideas for the other half? I was thinking of making the avowed focus into aether barrage with some area shapes or something.

>>53567023
Sure then, if that thought is what helps you sleep at night.

I don't think 'errata' should be 'balance patch'

>>53567220
That's what Paizo does though. :^)

>>53567197
Onmyoji Spiritualist, Kami Medium, Talisman Crafter Occultist. Take your pick.

>>53567188
but I haven't remembered my password in months

>>53567207
>thought
It is the truth. Nothing more, and nothing less.

>>53567272
good thing we're all cucks here.

>>53567280
take your shit fetish and leave

hey /pfg/ judge my Oracle Spell Selection

Free Cure Spells at the appropriate levels

At 5th level, add minor image and ventriloquism to your list of spells known.
At 10th level, add magic jar to your list of spells known.


Cantrips Known
Create Water
Detect Magic
Read Magic
Light
Mending
Purify Food and Drink
Stabilize
Detect Poison
Spark

1st-level spells known
Obscuring Mist
Protection from Evil
Bless
Sanctuary
Shield of Faith

2nd-level spells known
Calm Emotions
Silence
Restoration, Lesser
Pilfering Hand

3rd-level spells known
Bestow Curse
Chain of Perdition
Dispel Magic

4th-level spells known
Freedom of Movement
Restoration

5th-level spells known
Wall of Stone

>>53562186
So what's the opinion on Avowed so far?

I have a player in my irl group that wants to play once since he likes warlocks in 4/5e, want to know the broad strokes of what I'm getting myself into if I say yes.

Anyone here ever played in the Skybourne setting? How was it? Is it any good?

Should I do an energetic character, or a lazy one?

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>>53567393
>So what's the opinion on Avowed so far?

>>53567393
It's pretty good, but it's still in playtest and has lots of things that need to be ironed out. I'd go take a look at it myself if I were you, though I don't doubt that another anon will be able to find a way to pitch it without that.

The thing that has to be asked, though is: "How do you feel about ALL DAY"?

>>53567393
Better warlock. A bit less on the "Groping Tentacles At Will" and a good deal better solo blasting capability; basically blast (now pulse) shapes are no longer paid for by your invocations (now clauses). While you do have to build it well to do so, it CAN keep up with things like martials while offering decent utility, making it a solid tier 3 class, right where we usually want'em. Perfect for teaming up with that alchemist, the paladin, the gestalt monk-fighter, the psychic warrior and so on and so forth.

Flavorwise it's a huge improvement. Pacts are separated into a wide variety, and it's made clear that the main effect of the patron was basically jumper-cables for your own actual power: this awakens and also frames how the avowed's power will shape itself in the future, but for the most part that's it that's all.

Patrons are as above: They woke your power up, and maybe you can still communicate with them on occasion. It could be that grandpa was a demon, or maybe you met a dragon as a child that decided to give you a little boost, or you piloted an engel or something.

Symbiotic pacts are where what woke you up was actually something more on par with your own level: Basically you got your powers jump-started by that Otyugh, but that same 'link' gave it something in return, and now you've both gone off to maximize your growths as it turns out each gets stronger as the other does up to a point.

There's two main archetypes on the above: Aspirant avowed transform into increasingly-like-the-other-one forms temporarily and gain even greater power as they do so. They also likely pause and have some kind of magic belt appearing from nowhere to do it but let's ignore that for a bit.

Betrothed stick together. A greatly diminished (whether due to what they did for you or vice-versa) entity of that type is now actually physically at your side, though they can hide in you like you were their pokeball. You control both characters

>>53567325
Its not too bad. Looks very similar to something I would put as my spells. What are your curse and my mysteries and the like?

>>53567554
Wrecking Mysticism as the curse, Lunar as the mystery

>>53567552
Finally there's Esoteric pacts.

Sometimes you just love your country that much, or after intense practice and devotion to your martial arts finally breakthrough; Time and space no longer matter and you're now jerking off beyond the speed of light. Pacts like Nation and Self have no other entities; believe in you who believes in you is what just fucking happened.

Each pact gives some abilities as well as the class skills and a sense type. Dragon types sniff out treasure, demon types sense what folks desire, Nation pacts immediately know where your true (nationally-speaking) allegiences lie, self can sense power-levels.

>>53567171
Our players (for reference):
Bruniik the Bloodrager
Tagentikina the Fire Breather
Miraak the Monk
Urorakas the loony Knife Thrower
and Tess, the NPC Druid that helps to keep them all from dying with a healing wand and buffing spells

In the last session before last our heroes got help from the leader of Bronten, showing them the whereabouts to a training facility for the rogues of the gang called the Darkened Scales. The facility was abandoned but filled with traps that almost killed them, but after pulling through they were faced with an eye that had been scrying on them, who summoned a dragon made of darkness.

After beating this dragon of darkness, the shadows retreated, leaving behind one of the artifacts that powers the Mechanical Dragon back home, though strangely it wasn't the one they had been looking for. After looting the facility they returned to Bronten to sell the items, and upon arriving found the city being besieged by shadowy creatures summoned by a swirling cloud of darkness above. They went to help and defeated the remaining forces outside of the gate before the creatures breached the gate, Bruniik in particular carving through them with his crazy Bloodrager powers.

The creatures, when defeated, left behind the valuable stones used to make them. Urorakas picked them up and sold them to a wizard in Bronten, giving the players a nice little extra profit on top of what they'd sold from the dungeon. As they were leaving, a scout arrived hurriedly claiming that another cloud was heading towards Dragonsfjord, their hometown, and upon hearing this news the players booked it.

Upon arriving they found the remains of an insane battleground, corpses of Robots littered the ground leading up to the deactivated Mechanical Dragon guarding the village, with one of each of the parents of the players standing in front of the Dragon, welcoming them back from the adventure Ignatius (the leader) sent them to do.

>>53567568
Looks quality to me.

>>53567603
Thanks man. First time building an oracle

>>53567630
You should get some of the other control classic cleric spells. You will do good to have them, since you will need a QualityTM type of spell list as a spontanious caster

>>53567685
It's gestalted with Kineticist, and I got the fun stuff from it, so I'm not too worried about those. I was mostly looking at the spells that are hard to replicate as a Kineticist or which are just nicer to have as a whole "fire-and-forget" spells/day thing.

>>53562186
Who /crushing on the dm/ here?

>>53566482
So basically Legendary Kineticist is far better and possibly even low end T3?

>>53567593
Reunions aside, Ignatius asked for the artifact they were sent to get. A bit of awkward mumbling came about, and it was revealed to him that they got AN artifact, but not the one they were sent to get. Puzzled by this but happy nonetheless that they managed to get one, Ignatius attempted to install the artifact, though it didn't seem to do anything. After this he turned to the rest of them and announced that for completing their task they were to be rewarded with a ceremony making them full adults among Dragonsfjord... after cleaning up the mess from this invasion.

Time passes and Tess knocks on the door of Tagent in the middle of the night, saying that he didn't believe his father installed the Artifact correctly but didn't want to say anything in front of everyone else. They both go back to the Dragon and after a few minutes it seems that Tess figured it out, and almost immediately a voice begins ringing out in the heads of everyone's minds, calling out for help.

Tagent and Tess get massive headaches and pass out attempting to flee the Dragon, and the dreams of the rest that were asleep are disturbed by the voice as well as an extremely loud alarm ringing out. Miraak attempts to wake his father and his hands pass right through him, Urorakas gets up, sighs, and starts packing his gear saying "here we go again", and Bruniik gets pissed since he doesn't know where the sound is coming from and he's trying to sleep.

Eventually they track where the others went and find their bodies passed out on the road. For whatever reason they could only touch the bodies of Tess and Tagent, and upon waking them they go inspect the Dragon. The artifact is now getting really bright and hot, and when Tess tries to touch it the alarm stops, and an encroaching cloud of darkness that they'd seen earlier begins summoning more creatures that look to start a fight.

We ended there because it was getting late, so we'll start the nest session just going straight into the fight.

>>53567705
Kineticist is gay

>>53567761
No, you're gay

>>53567761
>>53567789
I have to agree. Kineticist IS gay

>>53567811
fuck, dubs confirm. it really IS gay

>>53567593
>>53567759

Sounds like quite the pickle. Here's hoping they manage to pull through with a minimum of dead parents and destroyed homes.

>>53567717
I want to smooch my newest DM

>>53567828
I like to think I gave an aura of mystique about what all is going on, while giving just enough crumbs that the players aren't totally left in the dark.

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>>53567717
>I am the DM
>No qts in my game

>>53567856
Don't make it gay.

>>53567878

>>53562353
No, Starfinder doesn't get to escape the furposters that easily.

What is the best PoW archer?

>>53567992
Hawkguard duh

>>53567916
But she's really cute!

>>53568035
no, he just says he is. you don't actually have to believe it, and he's got no right to get all triggered when you don't.

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>>53567972

They aren't the ones you should be worrying about, *campers*.

I need a name for a village goddess that lives in a shrine! Like the ones in the old Japanese folk tales! Preferably Fox-themed!

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>>53568174
Shiddoh Taez't

>>53568024

How so?

How many different shitposters do you think kitsuneposter was? Now that he's not making page 6 threads, things have been so slow lately.

>>53568223
1 person. He's also the same person who complains all the time about /pfg/ being full of weeb degenerates, and posts pics of kitsune in other threads to act as a means to complain about how weeb /pfg/ is. Kitsuneposter has played us all like a damned fiddle

Is there a way to roleplay the anxious drawback without adding elipses to every.. other word... Like this...?

>>53568174

Cana? Zerda? Rueppelli? Lagopus?

>>53568249
S-stutter a b-b-bunch

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>>53568262
Wait, are you just listing the names of various Bird geni?

>>53568296

Don't be ridiculous. I'm listing the names of various fox species.

>Cana = Blanford's Fox
>Zerda = Fennec Fox
>Rueppellii = Rüppell's Fox
>Lagopus = Arctic Fox

>>53568262
These don't work, but thanks for trying!

>>53568333
I need ones that would fit in JttW!

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>>53568249

>>53568281
O-Okay.... B-But that... Might get r-really... annoying a-after a while...

Th-Thanks anyways...

>>53568338

That's the one in Tienland, right? So you need something vaguely Asiatic?

>>53568249
>[Fuccboi] opens his mouth, letting a squeak escape before catching his words. He draws his hands together, fidgeting with them while sneaking glances at [Daddy].

>>53568352
D-don't forget to b-b-blush...

>>53568333
Ah, i see I'm sadly far more aquainted with Vuples, Velox, Macrotus, and Urocyon

>>53568367
Yes! It's for my character's backstory!

>>53568249
My character had it manifest as the following ticks:
>inability to make eye contact
>constantly drumming fingers
>panics in crowds or when jostled
>secretly a violent sociopath

>>53568249
This video is basically perfect for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq_KllfEAWc

>>53568387

Tsuma-no-Ono?

>>53568573
I'm like 30 seconds into this already and I'm legitimately scared this is going to be a screamer.

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>Update to SoM
>Need to change my sheet because half of it won't work or works differently now

>>53568728
Give me a quick rundown on the update, I'm too tired to read it right now.

>>53568655
Cheeky bastard

>>53568762
Completely removed dedications. Just straight up gone, so the equipment sphere now only gives you an equipment talent, nothing else. Poison in the alchemy talent is completely different now too. I don't know what it's supposed to do, but instead of stat damage it just fatigues and talents can make the poison sickened or work like the alchemist's mutagen. I've skimmed the poison package and toxins multiple times and I still don't understand what it's supposed to be used for.

I think the bonus 2 talents from level 1 are gone now and entirely replaced with a martial tradition. Unless it's an error, Alchemy's formula talents no longer use ranks/hit die for their save DC even though everything else that did still does.

Scholar got some new things, but my entire alchemy focus got fucked. Also there's not a good way to lower the required 15 minutes of crafting time per formulae, so while the wizard gets to prepare like twenty ways to end the world in an hour I get to make four improved acid flasks.

What do catfolk look like in Golarion?

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>>53569245
This seems like it's violating all sorts of anatomy rules

>>53569245

Does she have fur? What would it feel like to hold her at night /pfg/?

>>53564871
That bikini looks to me like it came out of a factory.

>>53564871
She's fine, she has that bird parachute on her head incase something happens.

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>>53569354
It's really not, cats are incredibly flexible. I used to think so too until I watched my cat do something much more improbable.

>>53570970
It's more that the coloring and angle make it look like she has no abdoment or pelvis.

>>53563991
I have a link for Aethera https://www.sendspace.com/file/rkp7gz, you can judge for yourself Annon.

While not perfect I find more sincere than Starfinder.

Aethera is clearly a small group of people's vision of science/space fantasy.

Starfinder on the other hand was built to be Pop sci-fi .