/awg/ - Alternative Wargames General

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>>53449161

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Guy who was asking about Alkemy last thread reporting in with results from the game I had today.
I don't play fantasy games (aside from Mordheim way back) so that might colour my opinion, but I quite liked it. Nothing too spectacular but it's all pretty fun and simple and the unique dice work well (I was using a conversion chart and normal d6).
The combat card system feels a little overwrought though. If you're going against an inactive opponent there's no reason to not use a Brutal attack.
It's a shame the models are so expensive even for a skirmish game, and then add P&P from France on top. It doesn;t seem like there are any UK stockists, am I being blind?

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>>53449490

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>>53449555

I want Spartan to release the Falcon and Sparrowhawk. I need air cover for my warthog swarm.

>>53449634
well they released the Longsword and the Seraph, which can do bombing runs but can't do drops.

>>53449490
>>53449510

Sweet Jesus that's a big plasma beam. I was expecting this thing to be doofy and cheap due to it's designation of 'Merchant Cruiser', but if it's actually a bigger slower CPV I might have to pick up a couple.

>>53449634
Also Derek said this back in April:

>Just popping online to give you an insight into what we have just finished in playtest and design for Halo: Ground Command.

>As of today we have finished Covenant/Banished: Banshees, Brute Overseers, Brute Assault Troops, Brute Chieftains, Suicide/Demolition Grunts, and Marauders!

>....along with UNSC: Falcons, Marines, Helbringers, Jackrabbits, Noble Team, and Grizzlies!
>Now, to be clear this just means they are completed in design and testing.... I don't know when they are coming out...so don't ask! :P But I thought it would be a good idea to keep you in the loop as to where we are going in the near future.

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>>53449886
Well yeah, the bloody thing is like a space tank, the so much for merchant ship eh?

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>>53449886
Also just for you

>>53449844
Sparrowhawk is sexy though.
>>53449898
I just bought into this and everything people say about Spartan has me worried that the game is just going to up and die suddenly. Good to see they're actually working on it. I bought the box set on a whim and was surprised by the quality of it all.

>>53449932
>Build a CA
>Put a supply closet in it somewhere
>Sneak them into the Fleet Ministry budget as Merchant Cruisers

>>53450026

Unlike their home grown IPs, they're partnered with Microsoft and 343 for these - the consequences of leaving these babies in the car unattended would be pretty catastrophic as a result.

>>53450026
According to Neal from Spartan Games, they are in a 3 year contract with M$ for this game, so that might be why they have been doing the support for the game regularly and why this month they released those 1/300 scale airships, because they have to release stuff otherwise they get M$ lawyers giving them awkward calls at 3 in the morning.

>>53450123
>>53450151
I have to admit, I'm glad Microsoft is so protective of the franchise.

>>53450178
Ever since Fleet Battles was announced Neil and Derek said how draconian M$ and 343 were on their beast of war interviews, so yeah worse case scenario we get people raising a ruckus at 343, the last time it happen Neil conveniently announced their new contract and if it were to happen again I wouldn't put it beyond M$ to just bankrupt them and buy them out which might actually be good for SG own IP's since I doubt they could do worse.

>>53450090
>It is not a glassing beam, it is a persuasion device

>>53450419
>Arbiter, explain to me why our new merchant vessel contains so many weapons.
>They are not weapons Hierarch, they are the latest in contract and IP enforcement technology - with such vessels in our fleet no one will dare pirate our property or sell below our MSRP ever again!

>>53450547
>The Boarding crafts are to merely expidate delivery of goods.

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For anyone who hasn't heard, plastic Domari are now out for Beyond the Gates of Antares.

Freeborn also got a new command skimmer, and starter/support army deals.

>>53450026
btw in another post they mentioned Osiris as being worked on at the same time as NOBLE team

What is a good, current 6mm Sci-Fi Wargame? I just found out about Epic 40k and am sad that I missed out on plying it when it was supported.

>>53452291
There is Railgun 2100 by the Fistful of TOWs lads but I think it's more hard-scifi orientated.

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Can anyone who plays Wild West Exodus tell me if I would ever want to use the King Scarab? I like the rest of the faction, but I hate this model, especially at its price point.

>>53452291
Dropzone Commander? It has a general.

>>53453162
That's 10mm sadly.

>before Hobbit
>50 model max
>after Hobbit
>can run 65 goddamn moria orcs at once in a 500 point game
I'm this close to making a moria army.

>>53452679

Does... does anyone play it?

>>53454209
The conundrum of /awg/.

Finally getting my Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes warbands going. Hopefully get to run some demos at the FLGS soon.

>>53452679
i am not sure i understand, it is a model it supposedly has its uses, just don't field it if you don't want to or prox it, there must be a bug somewhere you like which would fit the model.

>>53452291
You've got Future War Commander which has army lists for a whole range of SF stuff including armies "very close" to those sold by GW.
Or there is Laserstorm from Nordic Weasel Games which is for big SF battles. The pdf is ten bucks from WGV.
For free there is Dirtside II which you can download from Ground Zero Games.

>>53453535
Oh, mb senpai. I only play DF.

>>53453581
>yet to pick up hobbit rules
>wanting to get my friends into it with me
>draft some 350 pts list using older rules and the books I have to introduce yhem
>some armies are like twice the size I thought they would be


I remember why LOTR is such a good game, even at 350 pts I'm getting at least about 30 guys per army

>>53453581
There is no limit on models, an example army in the LOTR book has 75 guys in it.

Why word/news on that Fallout wargame? (More than the wargame, I'm looking forward for that nuke-coke dispenser)

I want to start off a few small LotR armies, what is a good beginner point level?

What proxy miniatures would you use for Witch Hunters and Carnival of Chaos (for Mordheim)? I'm still on the search and can't find anything.

>>53454439
I mean, ideally. Does it offer something that let's say an Onyx Bruiser doesn't?

>>53457824
They put out a survey asking people what they want from it. That includes how many models a game has, what the models are made out of, what models they will make, ect. So it is clear that things are in more of a planning stage currently.

>>53457893
around 400 is usually good. tournaments typically run around the 600 level. anymore than that and you're heading into big army territory.

>>53458470
>Witch Hunters
Hasslefree has a few Inquisitor type guys, as does Black Chapel miniatures.
Pretty sure some of the Reaper clerics could do the job too.
>Carnival of Chaos (for Mordheim)?
If I were to build one I'd probably use a mix of plaguebearers and Frostgrave cultists.
The new nurgle cultists from the 40k starter looks pretty good to. If you ebay some of those and kitbash some fantasy weaopns on them you are halfway there I think.

>>53458470
>>53459748
Forgot to mention Avatars of War. They have a witchunter mini too.

>>53458470
Hasslefree might have some suitable minis.

>>53459748
>>53459778
>>53460148

Thanks people, will look them up!

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Since WHFBg doesn't seem to know anything maybe I'll find here the answers I seek:


What are the next plastic box sets that come out that could be used for WHFB?

No matter if historics or fantasy. 28mm regiment sized plastic sets.

Are there any in the pipeline?

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>>53460285
Fireforge games is working on a box of plastic byzantine soldiers.

>>53460285
Frostgrave Dwarfs soon

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>>53460422
Did they announce anything in the way of cavalry? I need nice plastic ones for Saga.

>>53460451
It would be strange to not have a box of cataphracts since east rome was pretty famous for using them.

But maybe they will do it like with their russian range: Plastic footmen and resin everything else.

Thanks!

>>53460422
Nice ...I could imagine them as nun undead spearmen for my Sylvania army.

>>53460425
I saw them but somehow I don't think they would be a good "battle regiment"

>>53460491
Easterling Kataphracts make a good substitution with a bit of conversion work

>>53451913
I realized that at 15mm we won't get to really appreciate Kat's amazing ass. Imagine that in 28mm heroic.

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>>53461080

>>53461080
But yes, that's really disappointing, I'm going to be spending an awful lot of time on that ass tho.

I wonder what is going to be going on next after Spartan Games releases all the stuff they currently have planned for Halo: Ground Command, I wonder if we will get a Spartan leader, since we know that for the covenant Neil had Scarab planned along with a whole bunch of super units

>>53459088
Thanks for the insight

>>53460422

I would have killed for these bad boys a few years ago.

I kind of gave up on my Byzantine project because there were only two companies producing 28mm Byzantines and they were both hideous.

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Anyone else tried Scrappers yet? Seems really nice from what I've gathered from the book. Havn't played yet but soon will.

>>53463441
We don't have the book
;_;

>>53450619

BGOT looks interesting.

How big is the average army compared to the stater set?

>>53463476
I got the hardback a few days ago and have been skimming it through when time has permitted me. It uses D10 as the basic die. Factions are interesting but if none suits your idea then you can pick Freelancers as a faction. There are basically Brotherhod of steel like Archaologists, druidic GAIA genemutants, road warriors, AI synthetics and many others.

Teams consist of minimum 3 models (commander + 2+ troopers and you can pick 0-2veterans to it, maximum of 15 models). Figures have 360 vision and facing doesn't matter. Models areWYSIWYG but rules tell what items can be ignored for thus.

Three different types of units True Humans, Mutants and Synthtics. Troop statlines are customiseable(as far I've read). Commander can have 3traits, veterans 2 and troopers 1.

Stats are combat,constitution and command, traits and situations modify these. I'm typing on tablet. This is hard.Sofar very interesting and definetly worth the buy ifyou miss Necromunda but want something bit more developed and folows modern game design.

>>53463697
The starter set is roughly 800pts of Concord and 400pts of Ghar, but you could probably stretch the Concord to 1k and Ghar to 500 if you buy every upgrade you can get.

The game is played on similar point scales to 40k, generally 500-2000pts, and basic infantry tend to be 15-25pts, while vehicles tend to be 100pts for lighter ones all the way up to 400pts for heavily armed and armoured tanks.

So a usual size of a game tends to be about 30-40 infantry with a supporting vehicle or two per side.

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>>53449555
>>53449932
Those minis are way bigger than I expected, how much do they cost and are there any painted examples?

>>53464636
http://shop.spartangames.co.uk/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=HFCV12

Or here too, but they don't have the ships yet:

https://www.gamenerdz.com/halo-fleet-battles

And sorry but I don't have any pics of the ship painted because it arrived this week and no one in our Facebook group has had time to paint them yet

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>>53464784
This game looks really cool, thanks. I found a picture of some painted Covenant ships, which only reinforces how much I want these and the time to paint them.

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>>53464816
And the fun thing is that you can go wild with it.

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>>53464999

Been watching people play Fleet Battles on youtube, now I feel the need to buy a fleet to compliment my army, already spent $300 in figures and supplies this week...

>>53465057
Is ok, is not like you can take any of it to the grave, so might as well have some fun now and get yourself one, matter of fact go half and half with a buddy

>>53465089
UNSC frigates are just so adorable.

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>>53457114
Legions of middle earth put one in place, which is silly considering the shire can't ally with anyone.
It also had the points to a bunch of units that never got stat lines.

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After binge watching over a dozen western films it is no surprise that I got a hankering to play some old western tabletop games. The question is, where do I start and what does /tg/ recommend? I know of the existence of GW's Legends of the Old West but have no knowledge of it so I thought I would ask you fellas and see if I should start there or steer clear and look elsewhere.

>>53467133
Legends of the old west and legends of the high seas are lotr with guns and with more pirates than normal.

Anybody know if something like the Statuesque female head exist in 15mm?

>>53467133
Dead Man's Hand and its expansions are worth looking at. It uses playing cards to determine initiative and for other abilities. A gang is pretty cheap and easy to build. There is an expansion that sets the game in Australia, and another that adds weird elements to it.

Tombstone just finished its Kickstarter. There are a lot of model options, and actually has mounted dudes for a change. It uses 32 mm models that are somewhat nicer than Dead Man's Hand's. It will take a while for everything to hit shelves though. Not weird outside of there being an undead faction.

If you want something really gonzo (That actually qualifies as /awg/ rather than /hwg/ for that matter) then look at Wild West Exodus. Somewhat larger and more expensive than the others. Has crazy shapeshifting natives, old timey brass robots, Union soldiers with power armor, and an entire faction of ayy lmaos who are there for reasons.

Malifaux counts I guess. Think a less crazy version of WWE, but it has so much other shit going on that it is at the end of this list for a reason. Great models, Parker Barrows and Perdita are worth collecting anyways.

>>53467133
Pony Wars. It is a 15mm game that is played entirely solo or entirely co-op. The 'CPU' controls the Sioux while you and your friends control soldiers.

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>>53467528
>>53467575
Fantastico! I will be giving these a looky loo, thank you'll kindly.

>>53467474
I have not playing any sort of LotR tabletop game so I have no idea if you're giving me a full on "Stop, turn back" sign or a caution sign.

>>53448566
Sweet, Im working on a homebrew system right now, just approaching the first completed draft for V1. I'll have to keep tabs on these threads, maybe get some input.

>>53449898
>Jackrabbit

Fuck I hate that thing.

>>53467133
Boothill, first or second edition. It's closer to an rpg but makes for a fairly in depth skirmish game, it's very deadly.

>>53466132
Fair enough, not using that version so its not likely to come up.

>>53468847
Honestly I want HW2 cyclops instead or the Kodiak.

Do you guys talk Halo lore here?

>>53468243
It's neither, it's a good system.

>>53464169

Thanks, so about 1000 to 1500 points would be considered the normal size.

I quite like the look of the Freeborn as I always loved Dune and they're quite clearly Freemen inspired.

My only issue is that apart from the Freeborn and the Concord I don't really feel anything for the other factions. I wish we could get some more interesting factions apart from squid-men, rock-men, military-men and desert-men.

>>53471945
There's no accounting for taste I suppose, but when I originally looked at Antares I only found the Ghar interesting, and nowadays I like almost all the factions (Boromites being the only ones who don't do anything for me). I think I just had to rewire my thinking away from 40k's space fantasy aesthetics to enjoy the more classical sci-fi factions of Antares.

>>53472097

Maybe they'll grow on me. I think I need to see more vehicles before I make a final judgement.

Apart from the Ghar are they all humans?

>>53471945
>>53472097
I was in the same boat as you guys.
In the beginning when they advertised the game as hard sci-fi and then released the Boromites I was incredibly disappointed.

After some time to get a fresh perspective I really enjoy the space opera thing that's going on with the miniatures though and bought inot the game.
Funny how that goes.

>>53472177
even the ghar were supposedly human at some point.

There are really very few aliens. Some critters for Xilos and the guys from the Isorian faction are the only ones in the regular range.
The headhunter from the card game was a limited edition model, but also an alien.

All major factions are mutated humans that over a period of several thousand years adapted to the planets they colonized.
Except the Ghar, they were engineered to wage war.

>>53472191
>>53472097
do you also happen to have a pdf? i am very interested in getting into antares, but i can't afford rules i am not sure i like.

>>53472273
Unfortunately not. I was actually planning on buying some of the new Freeborn within the next week and getting a pdf copy of the rulebook along with the order so that I can share it with people who are interested in Antares, so stay tuned.

I quite like the rules though, there are really only a couple of tiny issues that irk me, mainly that blast weapons randomise hits yet also use a template, and that unit coherency is only 1".

>>53471336
yeah, we talk any lore for any tabletop as long as it falls in the /awg/ sphere, so no infinity, or WH, or the like.

>>53472377
>mainly that blast weapons randomise hits yet also use a template
I liked BA 1st ed on this one...HE D6, if it hit, it's D6 to wound rolls. Templates are really bloody unnecessary in BA 2nd ed, especially how they can't scatter or anything.

>>53472450

Yeah, of all the new changes to 8th Ed 40k we're seeing, them removing pieplates and replacing them with 1st Ed BA's method of doing things is by no means the most unwelcome.

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>"There was only one ship..."
>"One? Are you sure?"
>"Yes, they called it 'The Pillar of Autumn'."

How is Halo FB/GB? I have played Dystopian Wars and Firestorm Armada to some degree and see how many people dont play anymore and even try to sell their stuff as both systems just didnt got guud.

>>53450619
Tempeted to do these as DUNE Fremen just for the sake of it...

>>53473319
They are considered a step up and more refined and streamlined versions of their dystopian counterparts.

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>>53450619
To my surprise I even like the new algoryn models.
So far these guys didn't really impress me model wise.

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>>53449898
I realized that I want actual Spartan IIIs with their crappy SPI armor. Spartan IIs just feel too special for normal games.

>>53475847
Its not crappy, its just not "as expensive as a small starship" levels of amazing.

>>53475900
Crappy is a relative term, although they better get the Elusive loadout since SPI has optical camo.

>>53473039
The Pillar of Autumn was a Halcyon Class.

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>you're so fat it counts as armor
>you're so strong you can bear a palanquin and fight with a two-handed sword no problem as well
>still not as good as watchers of karna
GW got a bit crazy with their OC units.

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Cold bump

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Can anyone recommend a set of medieval rules for a Game of Thrones themed game?

>>53481233
/hwg/ memes notwithstanding, Lion Rampant is apparently not bad.

>>53481253
Thanks, I'll see if there is a scan in the OP

>>53478248
I have the feeling that they won't be releasing a Halcyon class, ssive out would look just like the Autumn class

Does anyone have a PDF of the current full rules and army rosters for Warpath?

>>53483472
Deadzone or firefight?

>>53483686
Firefight and regular Warpath.

So any games with player resources? Like Fate points, but for the player instead of units.

>>53485569
Malifaux uses Soulstones which can be spent in many different ways. It uses a hand of playing cards as another resource as well.

>>53481233

Who's minis are those?

>>53478248
Autumn was pretty heavily upgraded, triple MAC and uprated engines and that. Halcyon Class would be neat for 'historical' battles against the Innies though.

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>>53481233
CMON is developing a SoIaF minis game right now.

>>53486389
The Innies had ships?

>>53485569
Shieldbash uses "froth" which you have to spend to charge and do other special attacks. The interesting part is the other use: you can use froth to break any rule in the game, as long as your opponent agrees to the use and the froth cost.

An example:
You:"I want to jump this model over this impassible wall."
Opponent:"3 froth."
You:"2?"
Opponent:"Sure, why not?"

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>>53486462
>wotr style trays
I feel so happy for some reason.

>>53486468
Yeah, see Evolutions. MACing on Innies is how Cole earned his flag rank. That guy was a monster.

>>53486492
Yeah I'm pretty stoked to see what comes of it. The rules seems pretty slick, so it may be damn good.

I really like the setting, but hate the books because I just don't give a shit about most of the characters. So this is right up my alley.

>>53486492
I have no idea why, but I love the idea of those trays. I know why they aren't the best, models that scale are expensive as hell to get enough to justify its use, but they are still sexy.

>>53458470
Scibor miniatures have some cool WH. Might as well have other options but I didn't look through all of it.

>>53449161
Shouldnt autumn be halcyon?

>>53481233
There are custom asoiaf lists (battleboards or whatever they are called) for saga. Also Dragon/Lion Rampant.

>>53486150
captain blood's on lead adventure forums.

Unless you meant the manufacturer.
Then it's a combination of Frostgrave, Perry and Games Workshop bits, with a few odds and ends from other historical kits.

If we are lucky, Spartan might actually learn a thing or two about deadlines and how much they can handle.
>>53450619
These will be great for all kinds of conversions. Sadly though I just painted my first guardians, but I guess they are ok as exodite militias.
Also basically all the GoA releases last week were pretty good.

UK Games Expo this coming weekend. If you could only find one thing to look at there, what would/will it be?

>>53481233
Kings Of War or KOW historical might work well.

>>53488483
If, is the keyword here

>>53448566
Is the Halo Ensign edition worth it?

>>53492776
>http://pastebin.com/viWJ1Yvk
Do we have the rules of Halo Fleet combat anywhere?

>>53492776
If it comes with marathons definitely since they will be your bread and butter.

>>53492964
sadly no, someone a long time ago was supposed to scan it, but if they did, it has been lost.

>>53487722
Autumn Class is a post was cruiser designed to replace the Marathon Class. It uses a scaled up Halcyon hull but is build along the lines of Infinity. It was in Halo 4, but I personally never noticed it until I saw it here.

>>53486462
Do we have size comparisons? Would be great if the characters fit with Perry.

Page 10? Unacceptable.

So, has anyone had any interesting battles lately? If so, what were the stand out moments in your game of choice?

>>53493125

How much is on the Spartan Website?

Page 9 bump, nothing worthwhile to add

>>53498464
Nothing, sadly...still need to clean up my grandfather's house so I could move in soon-ish and play games.

Really looking forward to Otherworld, and would like to have another go at Reaper's Warlord as well - speaking of which, anyone happens to have its expansion?

So what do we think of the upcoming LotR releases coming from forge world? And the announcement they're finally moving away from the hobbit and will be focussing on Pelennor fields as their next project?

>>53472273
>>53472377
Here you go anon, spent 55 dollarydoos just so you guys could have a copy of the rules (I even included the expansion book, and all the army lists). I'll probably have to update this file in about a month when Chryseis Shard drops.

https://mega.nz/#F!lbo2VRgZ!3bFhyvBC1g_Aq5a9MkhzGA

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>>53500896
The crossbow dwarves look more like something from AoS than Tolkien and the other characters are underwhelming, especially the faces on pic related.

Not up to snuff from Forgeworld, IMO.

>>53501086
Oh, oh my.

I'm hoping a lot of that is just bad painting, but that's certainly a step down for FW.

>>53500896
What can you add the Pelennor fields that isn't covered by the existing LotR line? All I can really think of is those Gondorian levies that arrived from all over prior to the siege of Minas Tirith, but I think some of those were even covered already.

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>>53483686
Deadzone, but they're apples and oranges really, why not both?

Veer-Myn list for Deadzone just got amended:

https://lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/Veer-Myn2.0-PublicBeta.pdf?token=AWwSr1HqMq4XhrSI5rkr-Gji-YlGVQw8YC4IYjKAaiAQChziLAJZYi15lXHjDaizUQuEmY6aX0v24NeWT8mh6yd5LujKAFZ9Bc_yw28zFwVm-cHNQIV5K_-7GNnMnn10NokKG7KvCeqKw4b74kam0PmS_Vvt_F_5UbdawZyO4VH72alQSDRPOBoiHcaTE0Vk5V4

>>53483686
>>53502830
I want the full PDF for the core rules and army rosters for regular Warpath.

>>53501086
Forge World has been using less experienced sculptors to fill in for the better ones working on The Horus Heresy.
>>53502636
Resculpts always work but a redesign would be cool, I'd love to see miniatures inspired by the books.

>>53502636
Knowing FW I'm guessing they'll probably do a Grond model.

>>53499105
£14 in their website if any anon wants to be a hero

>>53495735
Not yet. I think they said 25mm? Maybe 28mm. I can't recall.

>>53502636
They need new oversized sculpts.
And maybe if we're lucky also book-accurate men.
Imagine variags that are dwarf-like with their long beards and broad bodies wielding axes.
Maybe even slaves from the banks of Nurnen.
Grond also springs to mind.

>>53478699
What is the best way to play Harrad in your opinion? I like the Golden King, but I could probably only get 3 other guards for him. I have a chieftan, the 12 man warrior box, the 6 man cav box, and the Betrayer.

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>>53506405
>the 12 man warrior box

Anyone else have ideas for a war game they wanna make but haven't gotten around to it? I swear I come up with some on a whim but wondering if any of you do the same?

>>53501086
We go from sculpts done by the Perrys to this?

S t a r m a d a U n i t y anyone?

>>53506405
Take shadow lord, get 12 watchers of karna with bow to follow him, and then take the golden king with 12 regular ass haradrim as a meatshield.

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>>53506942
There's enough that's close out there for it to not really matter, but a Mad Max skirmish game specifically inspired by Fury Road would be fun.
For factions:
>Citadel War Boys: Fearless, good in close quarters, mostly use primitive ranged weapons.
>Bullet Farmer War Boys: best ranged weapons in the game, but not particularly skilled. Good morale but not fearless.
>Gas Town War Boys: Lots of weird tricks, with pole cats, chainsaw troops, and souped up vehicles.
>The Vuvalini: Excellent shots with good morale, but they only ride motorcycles and have fairly modest ranged weapons.
>Canyon Raiders: Another motorcycle gang, they've got very poor morale but access to decent shooting weapons and bombs. They're also skilled riders and can pull off stunt rolls more easily than the other factions.

It'd more or less be a Gorka-Morka hack, with gangs from each faction fighting over various objectives in the wastes. I'd probably put in expanded rules for groups like Lord Humungus's warriors, Auntie Entity's gang and maybe some desperate remnants of the Main Force Patrol.

>>53507602
>>53506518
I should also mention, I have the Mumakil, hints were my 12 warriors and the chieftain on top came from.

>>53506518
What's wrong anon?

>>53508285
7 years ago boxes were 24 men for the same price.

>>53506942
I've been working on a skirmish game with a Hellgate: London theme behind it for years now. Still a long way from done.

>>53507641
Those hedgehog assholes: special rule is that if their car draws blood from you, they get plus one to all rolls, while if they injure your opponent they get plus two.

>>53501086
Well, not working with the Perry brothers was certainly a realy good idea, right guys?

>>53500896
I just want some new plastics goddamnit. Or re-releasing the old metals like the orcs, morannon orcs, gobbos, etc. A new kit of Rivendell spearmen and Númenor spear and bow would be nice, a Dol Amroth kit would be awesome, similar to the Uruk-hai box, 10 figs, half pike, half knight...but oh well, guess we'll never get those. And sadly moulding the Dol Amroth pikement in resin is a lost cause.

>>53506942
I've got an idea for a scifi skirmish but it needs a heckload of testing, either by play or maths. I'll try and write it up coherently for the next thread.

So /awg/, me and my group are thinking of starting Wrath of Kings, each one of us should buy a starter and with the downloadable rules we'll work from there. Only thing I'm a bit concerned about is the variety of the sculpts, especially in the starters. What are we going to find in those starter sets and the various unit boxes in terms of number of sculpts?

>>53500907
thank you mister rich goodman. I will always tell everyone some anon gave me the scans.

Hello /awg/, anon recommended me this thread to ask my question, so here I am

I'm going to buy the Android Infiltration boardgame, but all character tokens are cardboard. No miniatures. If I were to look for miniature replacement for all characters and NPC, Where should I start? Who makes the best sci-fi miniatures? or should I just give up and 3D print them myself?

>>53511713
If you want tacticool shiny-future stuff try Infinity, Afterlife (by Anvil Industries) or Human Interface: Nakamura Tower

>>53511713
how big would these miniatures be? and how many do you need?

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>>53511762
Thanks I will check out those.

>>53511809
They can't be too big because they are played on top of cards and there can be several characters in the same room. Besides that, there is no a hard limit to how big they should be.
There are 6 playable characters, 5 NPCs, and 13 Lab Workers. The way the game is made, the NPC characters are cards placed next to the room they are revealed, while Lab Workers are tokens that share a tech lock on the flip side, so 13 lab workers at the same time is pretty improbable.

>>53511762
What's Nakamura Tower like?

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>>53512092
Haven't a clue but the minis are neato.

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>>53512128
Yeah that's why I asked, some of the models are rad. I remember looking at them to play Double Tap with a while back.

>>53485569
Malifaux is probably the closest, since you buy units with Soulstones but can also use the ones you don't spend to boost actions during the game.

I love the idea though, wish we saw variations of it more often.

>>53481233
Someone already suggested KoW as a base. LotR's mass battle game (War of the Ring I think it was called) would actually work pretty well too, I think.

If you're willing to get away from 28mm, I'd probably go with something finer scale for GoT though... warmaster historical would probably be my preferred starting point.

>>53486462
They are actually good, it's 28mm? THe only one I dislike it's the mountain, that fist looks dumb as fuck.

>>53512092
A friend bitched it's pretty much unplayable out of the box, but can't confirm.

>>53512267
Some kind of "Special points" or tactical cards are pretty usual in fantasy skirmish games, I feel. Usually used to activate special skills, with weaker skills taking points only temporally and stronger permanently.

>>53512861
>that fist looks dumb as fuck.

Its how he looks in the lore though

>>53512915
Badly written rules then?

>>53512988
I guess? I vaguely remember he mentioned there are rule sections that don't continue anywhere and concepts that aren't defined.

>>53506518
It's the same with all gw infantry...

>>53513034
10 with the Uruk-Hai.

>>53509894
I haven't heard anythong about wildly inconsistant quality, if that's what you're getting at.

Could also look at the two player starter if people wanna play those factions.

>>53514926
The 2 players starter set gives way less than a single starter in terms of miniatures, with a bunch of markers and the quickstart rules. Alternatives for markers are easy enough to find, and the quickstart rules are downloadable on their site.
What I'm getting at, and sorry if I've been unclear before (English is not my first language, and I'm not very good at it), is: when we'll open our starters, will we find 12 infantry in just 1-2 poses? 2 leaders that are exactly the same (two Skorzas Alpha, 2 Dance Masters, 2 Gutter Friars, etc). When I'll take a second Galvanic Defender will it be exactly the same sculpt as the one in the starter? Or are there options (apart from converting them ourselves, of course) to further personalize the models?

How does a super hero esque skirmish game sound? Gonna have it set up in a city with a couple factions.

>City police SWAT and officers
>Street Ganger mooks
>Evil megacorp troops
>Good guy super heroes AKA the elite faction
>Evil Villians with mook support can be mixed with gangers and megacorp dudes.

It's gonna have a almost diesel punk feel to it or at least a dash of judge dredd, early DC comics, and maybe some marvel influences.

>>53516251
What about Spectre Operations? It kinda sounds like what you described.

>>53516286

As an owner of spectre operations and as a player. It's nothing like that.

It is literally a military skirmish game. As in say Spetsnaz vs. chechens kinda game.

>>53516368
I saw bank robbers and policement made for them, but ah well. Maybe you could make some houserules for it? I admit I'm not familiar with the rules, but most rulesets lend themselves to some homebrews.

>MRW the rule book for Halo: Ground Command nor Halo: Fleet Battles have been scanned yet.

why must I not have a scanner...

Are there any models that would be good proxies for Warriors of Minas Tirith? Something that is more true to the book descriptions but also cheaper than the GW box.

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>>53517923
I reckon Gripping Beast's late Romans could work. The plastics would cover you for archers and infantry, although for cavalry etc you'd probably need to go metal. (also just fyi, pic related are 3-ups, not the actual models)

One day, when I don't have a billion other projects, I'll make that Arnor army based on Romano-British models that I've wanted to do for a while.

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>>53518080
They could work. thanks.

But I just saw the new Fireforge heavy armoured medieval Scandinavians and now I am trying to think of a way to use those for something. So many projects so little time.

Does anybody have experience with them or other Fireforge plastics?

>>53518292
Men of Dale maybe? Especially with some fur greenstuffed on here and there.

>>53512128
>>53512187
Jesus these look good
Might buy just to paint

>>53518330
Not even specifically for LOTR, I think they would be good for Frostgrave too if I could buy a single sprue.

>>53518392
>single sprue.

ebay's probably your best bet for that sort of thing.

Bong ebay has a listing right now:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fireforge-Scandinavian-infantry-new-to-range-/132171523964?hash=item1ec609677c:g:v-kAAOSwVm5ZAJOZ

>>53518427
Thanks a lot anon, hadn't even started looking yet. I have heard the Frostgrave plastics are fairly compatible with Fireforge, anybody tried it?

>>53518495
Sculpted by the same guy, so...

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>>53518080
Ebob Normans?

>>53518548
Oh man those do look pretty sweet. I assume the wings on the helmets are greenstuff?

>>53518586
Yes.
I think they're also metal.

>>53518989
Looked them up and yeah they're metal but at £17 for 16 they're not too pricey.

Wonder how compatible they are with other ranges like Conquest or Perry.

>>53519021
Normans would be a good option too because I know someone has done plastic cavalry for them.

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>>53522521
Yeah you're probably thinking of Conquest.

>>53508388
I got mine from the Mumakil so.

>>53523053
Post your mumakil anon

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>>53509091
The Buzards?

>>53523053
Back in my day you could buy two Mumakil for a quarter and still have enough money left for a copy of the Mines of Moria

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>>53523181
I got mine kinda messed up for $20. Meaning it's feet are slightly chewed on and it's tail is missing. So I haven't even worked on it yet. Need to greenstuff a ton of stuff on it.
>>53523090
Read above.


Pic related is what I want to make it look like in the end.

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>>53520872

>>53467575
Got a link to the rules for Pony Wars? I can't find them anywhere.

I'm desperate to wargame in the Metro 203x universe. I have some rules in mind (No Hope in Sight) but I'm not sure what minis to use. Warhansa have some minis that could work but they don't quite fit the aesthetic.

>>53523346
Seriously though, just spam watchers.
Not warriors, the archer upgrade of 3+ shoot, but the two attack watchers.

>>53525742

Rather simple rules choices here. This is not a test, Spectre Operations.

Me and a buddy are doing his Redline vs. my Fourth Reich. Gonna use some DUST axis minis possibly or even some Warlord SS minis painted with modern russian camo and head swapped with k47 nazi heads.

>>53515126
Ah, sorry I misunderstood you there.

I think the infantry have like 3 or 4 poses a pop, while the characters and the leader types tend to ha e a single pose(some have 2 if I recall). They aren't super varied in their posing, admittedly. I know some of the newer stuff has more poses between them.

>>53525752
Is there any other way to do it? I don't have any watchers.

>>53527882
Spam warriors of karna with bows.
You have 1/2 bow limit with poisoned arrows, use them.

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>>53526459
>putting reds and golds on a covenant ship

why would you do this

>>53528028
I was planning on having them ride the Mumakil with that, and then maybe the betrayer on top as well to give everyone better poison. (I'll take the rope upgrade in case he ever needs to get down). Then having the Golden King and a horde of just warriors and umbar corsairs, with some cav running around with bows.

So is dystopian legions fucking dead?

>>53530032
>is *insert Spartan games product not currently pushed out* fucking dead

Yes.

>>53516251
I like the sounds of that. I'm not normally too interested in superhero games, but I'm feeling open minded today.

>>53526459
Initially I looked at that and like the purple/gold Ironman vibe. But then I saw the shape of the red outline and now all I see is a vagina.
>>53529453
I'm going to paint all my Covvies yellow for no reason other than because.

>>53529480
Those are too prohibitedly expensive to run together, and the Mumak is actually just a mount for a haradrim chieftain so only he can ride it, with an upgrade to him becoming a Mahud beastmaster.
Some riders with chief alongside it would do for a nice flanking force, assuming they only have a warspear you can easily fit them along with a mumakil, but remember the Warriors on the howdah aren't free, you can probably balance those two out to be around the same in number.

Is there a game like SAGA with 10-40 models per side but suitable for a more High Medieval/generic fantasy theme?

>>53533609
Lords&Servants

>>53533609
Dragon Rampant.

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>>53525742
Lead Adventure?

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>>53518292
I have a couple of their plastic boxes, namely their russian infantry, the templar infantry, the sergeant box and teutonic infantry as well.

Decent miniatures. Some of the heads have ugly sink marks on top of the helmet, but that can be fixed easily.
Some people (in here) seem to dislike the faces, but they are just generic and do the job. There are plenty of optional heads too, so you have a bit of variety if that should bother you too.
Pic related are some knights i built last year.

Overall i'm satisfied with the minis. The only downside is that in the russian box the spears come detached from the hands, so the hands are open and you are supposed to glue the spear into it. Personally i would have preferred arm/hand and spear in one piece like they did it in all the other boxes i have.
Oh, the tab (or base) the minis are molded onto could be a little bit thinner. But thats just a small problem.

>>53534589
Cool knights, anon.

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>>53518080
>I have the best job ever

>>53534194
Well call me sally and fuck me sideways those are fucking perfect

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>>53529453
Sorry have this one instead

>>53535120
You are salty

Now bend over.

>>53537113
> salty

Fuck misread

>>53533609
Chevauchee. Even has a fantasy supplement.

>>53473518
Any one got the rules? I checked the pastebin war game megas, but couldn't find anything.

searching for the gates of antares rulebook download. Anyone can help?

>>53500907
>>53540272
Thanks to the anon who uploaded this btw.

>>53539252
no one has uploaded it yet so it is impossible, which really sucks

>>53541235
>literally in the same thread

>>53500907
>https://mega.nz/#F!lbo2VRgZ!3bFhyvBC1g_Aq5a9MkhzGA

You're the best!

>>53500907
finally, thank you very much.

>>53541798
We are talking about Halo Fleet Battles and Halo Ground Command

So is dystopian wars my best bet for naval battles? or are there other systems with good models for it?

>>53544305
Depends on what you're looking for. There are a shitload of real-world naval combat systems, and /hwg/ has the pdf's, or should. I like General Quarters, but it's a bit rule heavy.

DysWars is good, IMO, but the rulebook is this weird mix of sexy and hideous. The rules themselves work, but it's also a Spartan Games product, which means it may suddenly be abandoned for another project for a year.

As for other alternate universe naval wargames, I don't know.

>>53544305
You could always hit up /hwg/ and find one of those needlessly complex naval games that strives for petty details and tbus bogs the game down in being more of an accurate simulation than an enjoyable game.

Otherwise yeah; DW is kinda the only one out there. Weird because you'd think more companies would want to do naval games.

>>53544305
Fighting Sails is really fun. There are a bunch of figures made for it as well, but any appropriately scaled ships work for it.

>>53544305
Hit up /nwg/

>>53545689
>>53545707
>>53546176
>>53545952


All I'm looking for is a good simple fun rule set with nice models to go with it.

>>53548049
Dread fleet and man o' war.

Goodnight sweet thread

>>53548049
>with nice models to go with it.
reminder that playing a game doesn't force you to use that game's miniaures.

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I just got a bucketload of Dreamblade figures for £15, I've seen a few people on the blogs using them for all sorts of things. Anyone actually ever tried the game itself?

>>53548049
Warriors of Poseidon from osprey is alright if you like ancient Greeks and others from that period.

>>53545689
There used to be Uncharted Seas, which fell victim to the aforementioned Spartan ADD.

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So this ia the Punic class carrier from Halo Fleet Battles

>>53553306
I hate everything larger then a heavy cruiser in that game on the UNSC side.

That´s why I ordered the ensign edition yesterday

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>>53553398
why tho? The Orion is sexy af

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>>53556511

So does anyone have any experience with Darklands from Mierce? Just been browsing the site and they make some damn good stuff.

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>>53557701

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>>53558956

>That moment when no naval wargame excites you so you embark on making your own. Wish me luck with my world war one knock off lads. There's gonna be some fantasical stuff like ekranoplanes and carriers but boy golly its gonna be shitty.

>>53553398
Phoenix Class is coming, hopefully we can get the Refit stats that allow it to be used as a MAC armed carrier.

>>53553398
Punic looks less bad than I thought it did, but still never going to use it. Epoch and Orion aren't bad though.

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>>53562184
>>53562013
>>53553398

Meh, I need me some sweet Halcyons

>>53525742
Look at the Copplestone Future Wars range, they're ancient but they have some neat stuff that would fit.

My tastes run more to Stalker than Metro, but I wish you luck.

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>>53551809

Pardon me did someone ask for my Osprey Folder Trove folder thing with Osprey Myth, Dark and Fantasy

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/08hq9c7x4clme/Documents

>>53561073
Good luck anon, keep us updated

>>53551121

I got a bunch right when the game died and the warehouse was just throwing the 5 fig boxes in to orders as packing when shipping to game stores. I bought some of the 5 fig boosters for $1 each then bought over 100 loose from a flee market vendor for $25. No one wanted to play so I re-based a bunch for D&D

>>53562184
I really need me some Orions in my life... anyone got pics?

>>53562630


And the QWG wargames

>>53562787
My Reach set arrives tomorrow, I'll have to wait to buy extras, blew my tax return on an airbrush kit.

>>53563004
Can you upload the rule book, it would certainly help draw people in.

>>53563013

I see what you did there

>>53563035
I no longer have a scanner, sorry.

>>53563108
It was worth a try :/

>>53563013
Nice notBrakiri you got going on there.

I wonder if UNSC ships would look good with a white and black NASA style scheme.

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>>53564165
maybe?

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>>53564297

>>53535449
>>53560648
Do they not have the older U-shaped drop ships?

They were so much cooler imo

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>>53566059
no since they are using the Halo: Reach models

>>53563187
>>53563352
The one thing I kind of hope they do for Firestorm 3rd edition is similar basing to HALO. I quite like the way the frigates and such are on a shared base.

>>53561073

Good luck - and may your 0.02$ turn out better than mine ...

Anyone here heard any news about the Otherside by Wyrd? Really interested in the game too be honest but wanted your guys input on it too.

>>53567480
I'm interested is it too, but don't have much hope of it gaining ground.

>>53568260
This post is /awg/ in a nutshell.

>>53515126
I have the hadross starter, and the deepmen have about 6 poses, you get two each, and the jellies have 3 poses. The leaders also have two different poses, and there is a little give to them, but they are all pretty much push fit models.

>That feel when you wanna buy and play Dystopian Wars but run into character dilemmas even thinking of it.
>Don't wanna support the ADD of a company
>Don't wanna buy into a game where I know it won't get any support

Kill me.

>>53568827
That's true, but there's still /awg/ games that at least have a core audience. TOS is in a weird pickle where there's not a lot of outside interest shown so far, and the Wyrd Games crowd aren't interested in it.

The production models look okay, but not great, and the price point isn't low to match, so if you're not already a Wyrd fan, its a hard sell. And the Wyrd fans aren't that interested because its a watered down version of Malifaux in many of their eyes.

I think there's potential, but its going to be either an uphill battle, or someone's going to have to bite the bullet and go back on some of the things they were shooting for with TOS, which was to offer a noob-friendlier game to bring in new customers.

>>53564297
Nice freehand eagle you got going there, any tips on how to do those?

>>53566059
>>53566143
But Spirits are in Halo: Reach.

>>53569685
>tfw don't want to support Spartan's ADD, but already invested in the game and have a large fleet.

I'm looking for people in something as close to Vault dweller jumpsuits as possible in something as close to 28 Heroic as possible. I've looked through most of the manus on the GDoc but haven't found anything that really jumps off the page.

Anyone found anything like that in your travels?

>>53570585
Brother Vinni

>>53570595

I did see a couple on his page (Postapoc Citizens) but they looked like they were monopose and that wasn't ideal so I didn't want to queer the spin by mentioning them.

Thank you, though!

I quite like the Spartan Force Builder app. Hopefully they keep it up to date.

>>53570192
oops, spirit dropships will be introduced ast some point, but blow they have the seraph and the Longsword instead.

For Halo Ground are there only the two battlegroups released, or are there others out there? My 2500pt ODST force is slightly disapointing

>>53571030
Also, I hope they release a helmet pack for Spartans at some point.