/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls General

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>>53324497
>no edition edition

Is anyone keeping up with ESO? How does Morrowind look? I haven't bought it because I haven't decided if it's worth filtering through the lazy lore and bland artstyle.

Do you wonder how uncomfortable an ordinator mask probably is

>>53325822
They're still watching you.

scum

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>>53325822
War masks aren't exactly unusual

But yeah they don't make much sense for guard duty

>>53325822
I think about Ordinators more than I should.

From where do the mightiest warriors in Tamriel hail? From Skyrim? Hammerfell? Orsinium? Morrowind?

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>>53326876
My thoughts go to the wild hunt and hist controlled argonians, but Im not sure t bh.

>>53326876
Supposedly Redguards are the most naturally talented warriors, but I'd imagine it's really all about the style and technique of what you're looking for in a warrior. An Orc or Nord would be better with armor and defending or using an axe, a Bosmer would be a better archer, and Imperials would be the most disciplined and be the best strategists.

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>>53326876
I'd say orcs are the best one on one combatants now that Nords and Redguards are shadows of their former selves.

>>53326991
Orcs have been shadows of their former selves since the Dawn era, so they have the most experience at it.

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>>53326985
I always took it as: Nords - Axes because they're slashing robbed elven mages and Orcs - Hammers because they're bashing armored Breton knights.

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>>53327084
According to Morrowind, The great size of Battleaxes helps to penetrate heavy armor, while still maintaining effectiveness against lightly armored opponents. Warhammers are mostly used by Western Knights.

In terms of gameplay, Orcs only receive a small bonus to one weapon skill and that's axe. They're designed to be more defensive, Redguards are more offensive, and Nords are in the middle with special defense against elements.

>>53325033
It canonizes trainwiz and c0da, if you're interesting in that

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Why do Bretons have these disgusting forehead wrinkles in Skyrim? Did Bethesda mess something up with the age sliders, which wouldn't be all that surprising? Did they want to give the players a way of recognizing Bretons aside from just height? Or do you think there's an actual lore explanation for this?

If they wanted to differentiate them from other humans they could've just implemented their canon characteristics such as slightly pointed ears, higher cheekbones and sharper features instead of this tacky shit.

>>53327758
Wait don't they actually have slightly pointy ears or have my years of playing console skyrim deceived me

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>>53327758
Because they don't moisturize their foreheads.

I'd say it's probably for distinguishing, considering there are some pale Imperials and dusky Bretons who are the same height. Apparently they pilgrim during the Gildegreen quest is a Breton, although he looks like an Imperial.

As for the elven characteristics, that wasn't even implemented in Morrowind when you could tell what race someone was with their back turned to you. I wish it was implemented, but the closest we'll ever get is how gaunt their cheeks were in Morrowind.

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>>53327819
They appear pretty rounded and normal looking to me. Like the rest of the humans.

Also, the more I'm looking at that picture the more I'm starting to think that Betsheda really did fuck up with the age sliders. It's not just the forehead wrinkles, they just look overall older.

You'd think they ought to be smoother and younger looking considering their mixed heritage, but apparently that's not the case.

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>>53327897
Bethesda can get silly with skin colors. Look at this tanned Nord.

>>53327963
We wuz atmoranz

>>53327909
"Ages like a Breton" is a phrase used in one of the earlier lore books.

>>53327532
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>>53327963
Or this Imperial.

>>53328132
>Glorious Design
Sotha Sil sounds like a fucking commie

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>>53328072
The full sentence was "Only half Elven, he aged like a Breton." so I interpreted it that he aged like a normal human and was middle-aged in his fifties unlike an elf. Meaning Bretons have normal human life expectancy. At least I interpreted it that way, maybe they really do look naturally saggier for some reason.

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>>53327909
I don't know why I like High Rock and its many squabbling kingdoms so much, but I just do.

>>53328189
To be fair she's an Imperial. They're kinda olive-skinned. Especially in ESO.

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>>53324497
Not lore related, but I heard you guys really like Morrowind. I've been considering making a mage and I have a few questions.

Which is better, Destruction, or using indirect means like Paralyzing and using Bound Dagger or Absorb Health?

How useful is Conjuration? If I were to focus on that, could I still use indirect means, or is Destruction and Conjuration just best together?

I've played Atronach a few times, but I never got to a high level with a mage without the Atronach. Will a Breton born under The Mage be enough, or should I stick to Atronach for defense, more magicka, and quick recharging with an ancestor ghost?

I'll probably go with light armor because Savior's Hide and DB armor, but how viable is Unarmored and Bound Armor? Would it just be better to use shield spells instead or in tandem with light armor?

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>>53328350
I do too. Medieval politics and backstabbing is a tried and true formula. Especially when you mix in magic into it.

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>>53328350
Bretons are very charming. With the first sip of lore you hate them and say they are boring, but at the bottom of the glass is Bretons.

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Do we know the name of the bay that's between Northpoint and Farrun in the north-east of High Rock?

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>Better Bodies/Faces gives Nords weird hair.

>Better Bodies/Faces gives Bosmer tiny dicklets

I have never been so conflicted in my life.

>>53328521
Back to /tesg/ with you.

>>53328541
>Implying tiny Bosmeri dicks isn't canon lore.

>>53328499
Sadly it probably doesn't have a name.

>>53328541
is /tesg/ a /vg/ thread or is it a /tg/ elder scrolls thread that isn't only on week ends?

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>>53328499
Some CK modders simply called it Bay of Farrun.

Beyond Skyrim guys call it Bay of Normar http://beyondskyrim.org/projects/iliac-bay/high-rock/

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>>53325033
>Faith in the Shadow of Red Mountain

>by Canon Llevule

>Canon

They aren't even being subtle at this point.

>>53327312
Game mechanic racial bonuses haven't been consistent. I wouldn't be that literal about it.

>>53328350
Balkanization is the shit, that's why.

>>53329289
I mean more in the spirit of Orcs are primarily meant to be defensive in concept.

How good a warrior is can vary, as there are many skills that can make a warrior. Someone who can block every single hit and perform adequately would be considered a better warrior than someone really good with a sword but can't block or defend worth shit. In the same sense, an Orc could be considered a better warrior than a Redguard due to survivability.

>>53328769
I mean Morrowind had the Archcanon, logically lesser bishops are canons

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>>53329471
>Someone who can block every single hit and perform adequately would be considered a better warrior than someone really good with a sword but can't block or defend worth shit.

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tfw you have read threads so much that you recognized this one immediately

>>53329504
>

Now, I know that climate only makes a moderate amount of sense in Tamriel, but I'd expect Alinor to be at least somewhat tropic, seeing how far south it lies.

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>>53329609
I imagine everything being magically micro-managed by the Altmer. Including the weather.

>>53329609
That depends where the equator is, and other naturally occurring weather phenomena. For example, you'd be surprised to find out New Zealand has similar temperatures to England.

>>53324497
Dagoth Ur

>>53328499
At PT we're currently calling it Balothian Bay.

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now here's a thinker
is there any lore out there that actually describes daedric rituals in detail? i'm aware of books like the invocation of azura, daggerfall summoning days, there's probably some shit in teso__ that i missed but i haven't had the time to dig through it yet

>>53330135
Liminal Bridges.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Liminal_Bridges

>>53326077
They make plenty of sense for guard duty. They make the guards faceless, anonymous avatars of the government's will, dehumanized (demerized?) and unfeeling. The mask's eyes never blink, it's focus never wavers. No flash of compassion ever crosses its features. It does not yawn. It does not smile. It watches everything and nothing at any time. It is monolithic and impersonal, fixed solely on duty. This affects the wearer as much as the watched.

All in all, a great deal for a repressive theocracy's secret police.

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>>53330853
That AND because it looks really cool as well.

>>53330853
>the temple actually cast it as Nerevar's face when happy as smiling
>but that's what he looks like when happy

>>53326991
Nords probably are the physically largest warriors, Redguards the most agile and skilled, and Orcs the most well armed. Bosmer are wiry but very strong to draw their bows, and Imperials are soldiers, not warriors.

>>53324497
Do we have any lore on the smithing of Tamriel and what makes Nords the best?

>>53326876
Redguared are great fighters but bad soldiers.
Nords are good fighters and soldiers but dumb.
Orcs are good fighters and soldiers and smiths but dumb and ugly and shit in general.
Dunmer are okay fighters but good war-wizards but insufferable cunts.

>>53332520
>implying Orsimer aren't the best

>>53332741
Orcs are literally "They see me rollin', They hatin': The Race, huh?

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>>53326991
>generic, uninspired high fantasy armour that gives no unique cultural character to any of the races

>>53328224
I'm not sure I get the joke

>>53328406
nigga just use all magic skills lmao

>>53329609
weather is more than just distance from the equator
for example, crimea is subtropical

>>53333187
Not to mention Nirn doesn't necessarily follow the same climate rules as our world.

>>53328189
She works outside as a smith, where she can get windburned, sunburned and sooty, so it's no wonder her skin is like that.

>>53332741
got some good proof?

>>53332441
He probably does a rape face when he's angry, and does an angry face when rape-y

>>53332520
>and what makes Nords the best?
>Nords
Never seen Altmer spelled that way before.

>>53324497
That's Dagoth Ur.

Tes 6 annoucement at e3?

>>53335598
>He doesn't know

>>53335694
what

>>53335598
No, prepare to wait several years until new TES.
I'm hype for Bonerlord though.

I'm semi-interested in any side games that might pop up though. Since TES 6 is a long time away, and Zenimax seems more willing to give out the licence, it's not impossible that we'll see a few more side games like Legends.
But I don't expect anything at E3.

Maybe it's for the better, Legends' story is kind of trash.

>>53335865
There won't be another mainline TES before long, like 2020 long

>>53335934
Meh, for a card game at least it's there

>>53328406
Literally none of it matters. If you can't play Morrowind with ANY skillset, you must be a moron. Only thing you must do if you have never played before or you are not up for the challenge, is to get that mod that delays dark brotherhood attacks.

Also, >>>/tesg/ or /v/

>>53336403
>tfw was sleeping on the ground outside seyda neen
>interrupted by a bdsm fetishist with night vision goggles
>get free good light armor

>>53336535
Felt like cheating

I really need TES 6 soon. Life's not worth living if I can't genocide the Altmer.

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>>53336726
my nigga

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>>53336726

>>53336726
TES 6 is a long way away anon

>>53336830
I know. I just...hate those damn Elves so much. So much. Did you know they want to retcon Humans from the timestream? Fucking assholes.

>>53336732
>>53336754
<3<3<3

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>>53336726
>taking Beth's blatant nazibait hook, line and sinker
Pathetic.

>>53336900
>hate Altmer
>genocidal/omnicidal fucksticks
>get called a Nazi
Nigga what the fuck are you on and can I have some?

There's literally nothing wrong with human genocide. Humans are literally asshole minions of an asshole deity.

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>>53336900
>Not wanting to cleanse Tamriel of Mer and beastfolk

>>53336952
Asshole? Or Superior? I think you've got your words turned around there.

>>53336969
No hurt kitties.

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>>53337035
>humans
>superior

>>53337046
Implying they aren't?

Say, Dagoth, how'd that whole plan of yours turn out again? Did you feel superior getting your rotten ole head kicked in?

Elves a shit, I swear!

>>53337046
That's also Dagoth Ur

>there are people in this thread who still dont know the real supreme race is the reverse imperialist Redguards
>you will never see Hammerfell extending it's sphere of influence over High Rock, Skyrim and Gold Coast, the unifier monarch as an alternative Emperor of Tamriel
>Bethesda will never realize the potential of Hammerfell as Tamriels Ottoman Empire mixed with Carthage and Muslims of Spain
>Redguard culture will never be fleshed out like Dunmers, because everybody, especially those that claim otherwise, are racist. Redguard culture will never influence surrounding cultures, resulting in unique and interesting lifestyles

TES6 will be the return of HoonDing who will bring down the Thalmor and put an end to the Dominion and Empire at the same time, while also making sure that Numidium never walks again. Thus, starting a while new era. Backdrop will be the modernization of Tamriel and spawning of new provinces with republics, theocracies, new empires, magocracies and more.

>>53337636
What the fuck is reverse imperialism?

>>53333587
NPCs constantly say they're the best when it comes to blacksmithing. Also in the game their heavy armor is the best.

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>>53337046
They are.

Aldmer from Atmora? Raped by Atmorans.
Sinistral elves from Yokuda? Raped by Yokudans.
Falmer from Skyrim? Raped by 500 companions.
Direnni from High Rock? Raped by the Bretons and Nords.
Ayleid from Cyrodiil? Raped by the Nedes.
Orsimer from High Rock? Raped by the Bretons and Redguards.
Maormer from Pyandonea? Raped by the Imperial Navy.
Dunmer from Morrowind? Raped by a volcano and a dozen of slave lizards.
Dwemer from all around Tamriel? Bumfucked by their own fedora.

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>>53325033
You know you want to

>>53337937
>Direnni from High Rock? Raped by the Bretons
I think that was consensual

>>53332520
>Do we have any lore on the smithing of Tamriel and what makes Nords the best?

Typical fantasy writer's lack of insight into how metalwork is actually done.

>>53328521

wood elfs having tiny dicks is canon as fuck tho, half of them are complete betas like fargoth or the adoring fan

>Blight storm disease fix
>Disables the buggy behaviour of blight storms. The game intended to give you blight diseases while you are in a blight storm. While the game added diseases, it never activated them, so no stat loss would occur; although to a script it could appear you were blighted. If the functionality was properly restored, it would give you blight several times per minute; turning it off seems like the best option.

Kind of interesting, was it actually meant to infect you that often? Think if they got it working before original release they would have added some kind constant effect dust adept helm or something?

>>53328406
Little late but here is my pov.
Conjuration in the begining is mainly worth for bound weapons that are easy and cheap to cast. Spear provide so much reach that enemies can't hit you while bow and scavenged arrows makes racers easy target practise. Those weapons will never break, don't weight anything and raise primary combat atributes over time.
If you play atronach you really should use shrines instead of sumons to get that sweet mana back. Either join cult or temple for free service.
Unarmored for most part is inferior to other armor skills there is advantages as for bound weapons and works well combined with shield spells. You will switch to other armor type eventually thou.
Don't be afraid of booze, just learn when to drink which one.
Cont.

>>53342262
Cont.
Destruction is strongeston vulnerable enemies so focust on fire/spark on undead/daedra and cycle custom weakness spell between dmg ones. Also ranged dmg stamina is pretty useful combined with unarmed.
Paralis is quite costly for what it does, it's main advantage beside no retaliation is guarantied hit roll. It up to you to figure out if it fits in your character playstyle.
Do however make custom noise spell. Making other characters fizzle their spells is best way to defend against magic second only to 100% resistance.
Absorb spells works fine as long as your enemy does not have high resist/reflect/absorb. If they do swith to summons or unenchanted weapons.
All for now.

>>53339730
Huh?

>>53342638
I found Spell Absorb doesn't work with the Soultrap glitch. Anyone else got this too?

>>53337636
>hammerfell
>not a republic
Monarchists please leave.

>>53329504
There was literally a lore book about a guy who was the best at blocking and would take down all the guys who were not the best at blocking, but met his match when he came up against another guy who was the best at blocking.

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>>53328350
Because while they're the most generic and obviously history-inspired faction, they're also very relatable and have some interesting lore if you dig a little. They are a rather unique halfway point between humans and elves, if nothing else. And there's nothing more exciting than forty-ish kingdoms and all their trade relations, cultural differences, and political maneuvering and outright warfare.

I'm still a little mad about how ESO slapped some generic celtic symbols on a medieval european setting and called it good, but what can you do? Force them to play Daggerfall so they can create the appropriate lore references and throwback designs?

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>>53343830
>Force them to play Daggerfall so they can create the appropriate lore references and throwback designs?
Yes.

>>53337046
That's Dagoth Ur.

>>53337636
Pretty sure the Redguards have been influencing and influenced by the nearby Bretons and Imperials. I think somewhere around the point that they first started trading, they realized they didn't have to kill everyone.

It would be awesome if, while everyone was expecting Skyrim to become the new human kingdom, the Redguards ended up actually uniting to resist the Thalmor, and drew the Imperials to their banner who were tired of acquiescing to the Thalmor's demands and recognized that the Redguards could pull off a victory. They could claim themselves as allies/successors to the Empire rather than in opposition to it, sort of a not!Sultanate of Rum. They could even bring back Ebonarm.

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http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Fall_of_the_Usurper
Remember to celebrate the best Baron High Rock has ever seen.

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Also, I expect to see all of you out tonight, celebrating the Fire Festival.

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>>53344049
>you will never take the day off from work/adventuring just to travel up to Northmoor and see the fireworks

Daggerfall had a lot of interesting things about it. A pity it's so hard to get into.

>>53328642
vg, mainly becaue here we 'try' to focus on lore

>>53342262
>>53342638
Thank you.

>>53327897
>Apparently they pilgrim during the Gildegreen quest is a Breton,
Druids of Galen confirmed?

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>>53345015
Well they still worship Y'ffre so paying respects to their roots is to be expected. Mind the pun.

>>53337937
>Direnni from High Rock? Raped the Bretons too much
ftfy

>>53345130
They did and now they're gone.

>>53345130
But Breton's weren't a thing until the Direnni were raped into humanity by the Cryo-Nords

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>>53345159
Not gone, just diminished.

De Rerum Dirennis can't have been written before 3E 403, and it makes it clear that the Direnni are still around. Medora might even still live as of Skyrim.

The Direnni are pretty cool, but I'd never play one in vidya or on tabletop. It's a bit like playing a Tharn or a Camoran, it's way too snowflakey to be from one of the important families in the setting.

>>53344366
I had my hopes up for week long TES threads and my hopes were dashed

>>53345272
No.
The Bretons, are descended from the original Nedes of High Rock.
Cyro-Nords were never in High Rock, they are the precursors of the Nibenese and Colovian peoples. You may be thinking of the Nords who settled during their conquests and got BTFO by the Elves in the 4th century.

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>>53328350

Probably not the best place to ask, but I figure some of you played Wheels of Lull.

When you're sneaking around that Thalmor tower with all the experiments, is getting caught the only way to proceed, or are you able to bypass that?

>>53346372
Trainwiz posts her sometimes, maybe he'll see this.

There's some nice lore on Redguard holidays from Daggerfall.
>As any schoolchild could tell you, the Redguards are a relatively new culture to Tamriel. Their arrival from their homeland is actually well recorded, though it occurred several thousand years ago, in the 808th year of the 1st Era. Hammerfell was a great desert encompassed by almost impassable mountains -- unclaimed and unwanted. Many of the holidays extant in modern Hammerfell seem to be direct translations of older Redguard festivals before their migration to Tamriel.
>The orgiastic seasonal celebrations seem unusual in a province with few changes in the weather from month to month. Yet on the 28th of Suns Dawn, the Redguards of the Banthan jungle celebrate Aduros Nau to relieve the wintertide lethargy; on the 1st of Mid Year, the people of Abibon-Gora celebrate Drigh R'Zimb in honor of the sun, which no normal Redguard worships in this day; similarly, on the 29th of Suns Height, the festival in the Desert called Fiery Night, seems almost perverse in such an environment; the Koomu Alezer'i on the 11th of Last Seed in Sentinel has been translated as a harvest thanksgiving, though many scholars have suggested that it was once a springtide holiday; similarly, the Feast of the Tiger in the Bantha on the 14th of Last Seed was probably once a religious holiday to a Tiger God, instead of a thanksgiving.

>>53346789
>Other old Redguard holidays have either been acknowledged as part of the old culture or adjusted to fit with the climate of Hammerfell. The Serpent's Dance, for example, of Satakalaam is patently an old festival honoring a Serpent God of the homeland who evidently did not survive the journey to Hammerfell. The significance of the date, the 3rd of Suns Dusk, has been lost with the Serpent Priests. Baranth Do, on the 18th of Evening Star, and Chil'a, on the 24th of the same month, are both New Years festivals. Most likely, they have been moved from their original dates to correspond with the notion of the year defined in Tamriel.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Holidays_of_the_Iliac_Bay

I like the whole idea of Redguards still celebrating adapted versions of old Yokudan holidays.
It's like a semi-lost culture, where rituals are still performed even though they're not totally sure what they're for, and they no longer really match up with the seasonal events they're intended to be for.

Can someone explain dracocrystalization to me? Or at the very least give me some sources to read. I have a feeling it's a c0da thing that I missed because it was so dense.

Is Blood magic a thing?

>>53347214
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept

>>53347327
Sure, there's magic that uses or has to do with blood.

>>53347435
There is?

>>53347553
The whole "Blood of the Divine" business from Oblivion for one.

>>53347553
Vampire stuff, the alchemical qualities of blood, and that Essence Extractor thing.

>>53345358
I thought they were more of a clan than one large family, and still had several families across the towns and villages of Direnni. It's not as specific as just one family, and they used to own the whole of High Rock, right? Can't just be one family.

And it's an interesting way to explain why a high elf might be in High Rock or Hammerfell or something like that, without having them be from the Summerset Isles or just having lived in whatever province you're playing in.

Does anyone have a pic of Vivec with XXXTentacion's hair?

>>53347724
>I thought they were more of a clan than one large family
It's a bit of both, I'd imagine.

Vorian Direnni describes it as a family, the line of Asliel Direnni.
It's very much a family where the important leaders and heads are related to each other. Medora Direnni is the grandchild of Imperial Battlemage Jovron Direnni, who was himself a great great grandson of Pelladil Direnni, battlemage to Versidue-Shaie. And his ancestor was Raven Direnni.
So I think it's safe to say that there's very much a Direnni family, that's at the core of their entire history.

That said, they're also described as a clan, but I think that's more in reference to the extended family, distant branches, and perhaps even families they've tended to intermarry with. Then there's other Altmer who have joined forces with the Direnni at some point, and even at a point an influx of Ayleid refugees. There's even non-Altmer retainers, like Chimere Graegyn.
Not everyone is the Direnni Hegemony was Altmer, and not all Altmer in the Direnni Hegemony were actually Direnni. Especially not THE Direnni of Ada-Mantia.

>they used to own the whole of High Rock, right? Can't just be one family.
The Habsburgs were "just one family".

>>53347724
>and they used to own the whole of High Rock, right? Can't just be one family.
The term 'Direnni' is often used as a misnomer. There were many Elven clans in High Rock, the Direnni just happened to be the ruling clan. And this is only after 1E 355, mind you, before then there was no Hegemony, and High Rock was as divided as it has always been.

>>53348038
>And this is only after 1E 355, mind you, before then there was no Hegemony, and High Rock was as divided as it has always been.
The Hegemony started fracturing after 1E 482 too. For a merish realm, they didn't stay at the height of their power for very long.

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>>53325033
THIS tiny room is the top floor of a Canton, you know, the rooms that usually have entire buildings inside them.

>>53348130
Well if we're referring to the actual 'Merish realm' of High Rock, they did manage to outlast their Falmer and Ayleid counterparts by a couple of centuries.
The collapse of Elven rule in High Rock was likely inevitable, the Hegemony was just too little too late.

>>53348130
They had a whole underclass of Bretons underneath them, though. An underclass that was growing in power and influence as the Direnni waned.

Pretty sure there's something deeper to the fact that any Merish realm with a underclass of another race eventually suffers - Aylieds, Direnni, even arguably the Dunmer - but I can't put my finger on it. Though aside from the Wood Elves, I think most elves keep some sort of underclass - even Altmer have goblin slaves - so maybe it's not a hard and fast rule as much as 'most mer have other races as underclasses.'

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These Solstheim cunts make no sense.
Elder Scrolls spends about all it's fucking lore with this elaborate pantheon with different levels of veneration and philosophy governing all these different races, Nords are canonically gay for Shor/Lorkhan/Sep/Shezarr, and then they just decide
>lol All-Maker yeah
what the fuck, the All-Maker is the most nonsensical thing in Elder Scrolls ever.

>>53346372
When you get caught by Archeron and locked in a cell, that's how you proceed

>>53350377
Ah, dang. Alrighty.

>>53350349
uesp says the All-Maker may be Anu and that the people of Solstheim may have learned of him from the Atmorans.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:All-Maker

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An anon earlier was talking about a holiday with a forgotten Redguard deity, and it's got me curious: are there any deities from the current kalpa that have been lost or forgotten over time?

>>53350807
There's some flower goddess mentioned in Daggerfall.

>>53350349
The Skaal came from a time back when the Nords were supposed to have very primitive religious practices. Their religion isn't monotheistic it's animistic, they believe that all things in some essence posses a spirit and that these things are all connected (through the All-Maker). Their belief system has not evolved to the point of worshiping greater personal spirits with specified spheres, rather they look to basic root concepts like 'Earth,' 'Wind,' 'Sun,' and 'Beasts.'
What is truly nonsensical is having all the Nords worship the Imperial Cult, much less any form of institutionalized religion.
>>53350451
>Anu
No way, either Anuiel or a particularly peculiar view of Akatosh.
Anu is way too rudimentary and impersonal to be the All-Maker.

>>53350847
>No way, either Anuiel or a particularly peculiar view of Akatosh.
>Anu is way too rudimentary and impersonal to be the All-Maker.
this is what I'm saying, it's totally nonsensical

the whole of Nordic ethnology points to the current Nordic pantheon having come from a sorta-kind animistic religion featuring the typical gods but in animal representation

the All-Maker doesn't fit into this REMOTELY.

>>53337834
>Nordic Carved Armour is better than Orcish in Skyrim
>Morrowind has Nordic weapons better than Orcish ones
Nope

>>53351299
And in Morrowind Orcish Steel is pretty much the ideal medium armor till Tribunal and the Adamantium/Adamantine pack introduce Adamantium medium armor or you're willing to get a deathmark for wearing the Ordinatior Chitin-bone-metal hybrid gear.

Nordic Carved needs Quicksilver and Ebony, not all that impressive.

>>53351353
>Nordic Carved needs Quicksilver and Ebony, not all that impressive.
And Orcish needs Orichalcum.

>>53351412
Yet Morrowind Orcish was Steel.

Clearly Syrim Orcs aremassive fucking Yokudaboos.

>>53351449
Skyrim in general is full of Yokudaboos.
>Guards love da curved swords
>Orcs use grorious Yokudan steel folded 1000 times
>the only non-Nord good enough to get a housecarl status is a Yokudan
>Only other person besides you, Ulfric, and Greybeards who is worthy of teaching the Voice to is a Yokudan
Fucking Yokudaboos.

>>53351494
>tfw no cute yokudan bf with a big curved sword

>>53346789
>Hammerfell was a great desert encompassed by almost impassable mountains
Whoever who has to create the invisible walls for TES6 probably had an orgasm when he read this.

I'm starting a campaign soon. My plan is to set it right after the end of the Akaviri invasion, what cool stuff was happening then? I know that the mananauts and giant space moths were starting up around that time. Is it possible that Pelinal was originally from late first era before he went back in time to kill elves?

>>53350847
>What is truly nonsensical is having all the Nords worship the Imperial Cult, much less any form of institutionalized religion.
This bothers me to this day. Did they ever attempt to explain it?

>>53353935
a meme explanation was that because bandits outnumber the town citizens in game it and bandits shout the names of the nordic pantheon it means that all the bandits are the true citizens of skyrim

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>>53351494
The leader of the Dawnguard is also a Yokudan.

>a quickly reformed militia put the vigilant of stendarr to shame
Pity Vigilants are a bunch of grumpy jobbers. You're basically forced to mod the game to remedy that.

>>53353959
I can live with that. Maybe the Talos worship ban was only a straw that broke the camel's back.

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>>53345099
What is this image from? Those shrines are dope as fuck, especially Sheor's.

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>>53354769
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73007/

>>53354796
That armor looks out of place.

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>>53355049
It's the same armor as >>53326991 >>53343845

Pretty tame aesthetically, and it's fitting for Breton knights. Also definitely less retarded than pic related which is already in the base game.

>>53350807
Ebonarm and Sai, arguably, probably a lot of Yokudan deities, "an insect god named [lost]."

>>53352575
Which invasion? The Tsaesci one which was put down by Reman is what it sounds like you're referring to.

Which one do you prefer /tgesg/?

>pretty much everyone in Tamriel (during the Septim Empire) is potentially capable of spellcasting (provided that there is no exceptional flaw in that person), magicians are a relatively common sight in both urban and rural areas (though different types like court wizards, battlemages and hedge wizards exist). Very unnatural and dangerous Monsters are known to exist and are familiar to general populace. Wizardry is seen by humans as a career choice (like how education in a university was in the very early 20th century) rather than following an alien lifestyle (like in European folklore). Religion encompasses spellcasting, magic is seen as a tool or gift rather than a purpose or curse.

>for both men and mer, magic is a goal to be achieved only through a combination of considerable effort and natural affinity. The races of Tamriel are not really capable of the special powers (eg.frost punch of nords) like in games. Most non-metropolitan people live lives away from magicians and monsters that are not considered natural fauna (eg.undead and daedra rather than cliff racers or giants). Training in magic requires serious dedication (like ascetic lifestyle or beimg brought up in a culture based entirely around magic like Altmers). Most healing is done by herbalists and surgeons rather than restoration casters. Temples and churches are not places of magic, rather, often simple communities where the priest just maybe knows a few magic tricks. Human armies are almost entirely non-magicians.

>>53355705
The first.

>>53355166
I'm perfectly fine with the daedra set being nonsensical. It's otherworldy demon armour.

>>53332860
i think theyre all supposed to be the same class, so they should have some things in common. some of them are pretty shit though

>>53355705
The first, although I wouldn't say it's that common. I doubt that commoners and paupers knows more than maybe one minor charm related to their profession at best.

>>53355705
The second, similar to Morrowind

>>53350349
>he doesn't like the All-Maker
Gong gong, motherfucker

>>53355705
I'd go with the first, but prefer something like a sort of mix between the two, where anyone can learn magic if they really tried, but it's very difficult, putting a lot of people off attempting it. So while there are many mages, it's not that common a sight.

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>>53336726
No.
They are best decedents of Aedra. We, humans, were corrupted and our Altmer brethren will lead us to restore our glorious ehlnofey legacy.

>>53355705
The games seem to prefer the former. The only exception might be Skyrim, where some people really don't trust magic and in places like Morthal really fear wizards. The best case is probably 1 in the cities, and 2 in small towns or more backwater provinces. Just as a town of 400 people probably doesn't have many PhD grads, a small village in Tamriel should have basically no wizards, unless something is very special about it, like it is secretly a daedric worshipping cult or a witch coven.

>>53356921
Also keep in mind that Nords already distrusted magic, and the vast majority you meet are peasants.

>>53353976
Why do Yokudaboos exist? Is it the fucking Hammerfell stone carvings?

>>53355996
Morrowind is the first, Skyrim is the second.

In Morrowind, magic is so common that the game even says there's no reason for you not to expend what magicka you can. Mages are so common that the Mages Guild is in almost every town, and most adventurers and commoners who aren't mages stop on by to buy some goods or use Guild Guides regularly. Almost anyone can tell you what a Daedra or a Bonewalker is, hell one of the temples has a permanent Dremora standing by the rock. The gods of magic include Julianos, Magnus, and Sotha Sil.

In Skyrim, next to nobody uses magic. Racials are toned down considerably. The only institute of mages is one far off in a one horse town that's destroyed. Alchemists are normally where people who are sick go instead of the temple.

>>53326876
Depends on your criteria for "mightiest", don't it? They all have their niches.

>>53329609
What little we have on it says there's plains, woodlands, steep mountains dotting the landscape (iirc, there's at least some mountains I know that), and it doesn't mention any specifically unique weather, like skyrim being cold or hammerfell being a desert, again iirc.
It's probably mostly mild with really wet winters because it's an island.
>>53329695
There's no basis for that, but it's an interesting idea. I doubt they'd care that much though, they enough arcane shit to do without that.

>>53335865
>>53335598
The mountain man himself said last autumn that there's 3 big games they were working on, and the third in line was TES 6. He said that when all are released it'll make sense why they waited till last for TES 6. I think Prey was probably one of them. I can only assume that means they want to have better tech resources and engine improvements to work with, which I'm absolutely fine with.

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>>53357622
He said 3 Bethesda Games Studio games. So we haven't gotten anything and anything announced of these games.

>>53355705
For the most part the former, most people are likely somewhat familiar with seeing or being around it (temple healers), but unless they practice and learn spells they aren't going to be good at it and/or able to do it. Like driving but not as universally common I guess, you're not born knowing how to do it, you have to learn how, and even then there's basic and advanced driving. In terms of commonality I'd imagine it's like getting a phd: fairly common in cities, but far less so in rural areas.

>>53357688
Ah, well still, I'm excited regardless.

>>53351494
Nord men also have a thing for Yokudan women with all the mixed couples in the game.

>>53357791
Why though? What TV show or movie has been popular recently? Because thats what you are getting.

>>53356724
That Anon is a spy.

>>53358077
He is so shit at his job I doubt it. I'm guessing he is some low pay goblin shilling for the Dominion. The Empire hacked Skyrim's Moot.

>>53357819
>Yokudans are the Asians of Tamriel
Weird.

>>53358146
Ignorant racist goy!
Don't you see we're your friends?
Dis is just like annuda Alessian Reform!

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>>53358226
(forgot pic)

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>>53358287
Don't forget the muh elven genocide committed by the Tiber Empire using a makeshift God.

Why is Cyrodil called the seat or Sundered Kings? Is it all the Monarchacide?

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>>53358226
What are you, some Talos heretic?

Reminder that Children taking the race of the mother is retarded as there would be a dark elf emperor

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>>53358287
Lore friendly version.

>>53358503
What if it's a goblin that stole Thalmor robes?

>>53358532
wait
>round ear
now i feel retarded

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>>53358532
Maybe mom Altmer had a tumble with her slave goblin-ken.

>>53358580
Wouldn't put it above an Altmer.

>>53358171
Nah, they just like black ass and women who are tough.

>>53358499
Why do you think Tiber aborted it

>>53358765
Excellent taste

>>53358499
>who are the Ra'athims

>>53358499
Also it slightly implies intense eugenics by nobles

>>53358765
According to the Nords in Anvil they also like warm climate.

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>>53355166
I can't say I'm very happy with most of ESO's armor choices, but at least the Breton helmet looks nice. It even reminds me vaguely of Morrowind armor, a mix of iron or steel. Even the armor as a whole is mostly okay, if a little generic. Well, very generic. I can't explain why it looks generic to me, but it does.

Most of the other races, I can't forgive the armor choices. They don't look like how they've been depicted in the past at all, though the Argonian set is at least alright. You could switch around half the armor sets with little difference.

>>53326991
>Silly smoothskins, heavy armor is for pussies.

>>53359695
>"heavy armor is for pussies"
>to weak to wear heavy armor

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>>53360031
>Need heavy armor when you have croc skin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLaXcxE5spI

>>53360170
poor gator ;_;

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Does anyone know what Helseth and Morgiah are doing by the time of Skyrim? I'd imagine Morgiah's been deposed as Queen of Firsthold, and Helseth, being a Hlaalu, has been ousted as King of Morrowind.

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>>53359324
You telling me a kettle is "at least alright"? Most races have great armour yet Argonians stand out because pic related.

>>53360254
We don't know. We don't even know how long their mother stuck around.

Helseth was probably ousted, if not outright banished.
I can't imagine Morgiah giving up her throne alive. Though, with the rise of the Dominion, I wouldn't be surprised if she's been assassinated.

What's interesting is that I'm not sure they'd have anywhere to go, were they still alive. Hlaalu aren't very welcome in Morrowind, they're unwanted in Firsthold, and they were forced out of power in Wayrest. There's no obvious safe haven for either of them. Cyrodiil, maybe?

>>53360575
The Gray Quarter

>>53360463
It's obvious they're basing it heavily on some sort of Aztec/Maya design. It looks like one of those headdresses without the feathers, so I'll forgive it.

The others just all look kinda meh. They look solid as armor, but they don't stand out, they don't really look as intricate as some past armors have looked - even Skyrim, a game where I've come to dislike most of the armor design, at least stands out.

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>>53360463
Why does all ESO armour have those weird hip-flaps?

>>53360170
Croc skin doesn't stop whips. Back to the rice fields, Fetcher.

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>>53360845
>weird hip-flap
Tassets were a common thing anon.

>>53360845
Hip-flasp are my fetish.
I think that it's a simple way to add detail to an armor without having to worry about the more flowy material of pants or something that would usually be showing in that area. But I'm no professional.

>>53360845

Those weird hip flaps mask the difficult-to-cover intersection between the thigh and hip armor

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>>53360848
And ash skin doesn't stop meteors.Back to the Gray Quaters. Knife-ears.

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>>53360898
It just seems weird to me when even scholarly robes have them,
What kind of world has Tamriel come to, when even mages feel the need to pad their hips?

>>53354796
What's going on in this pic? Why is Pelinal Whitestrake having his metallic fingers being painted by some Altmer?

>>53361174
Just robot stuff.

>>53361154
That looks silly I agree. Maybe they're just reusing assets. The whole game is really bland and generic looking.

>>53361174
Because he's gay.

>>53361154
Maybe they have an epidemic with hip-checks.

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>>53361254
Truly a epidemic to rival the Thrassian Plague.

But even this Yokudan-style robe has very prominent hip-flaps. Perhaps it's something the Yokudans brought to Tamriel. This may be older than first imagined.

>>53360898
But in every culture? In every kind of armor?

These are supposed to be culturally different factions and all, right? You'd think there'd be more obvious distinctions between armor types, instead of all looking like vaguely western plate.

speaking of epidemics
how exactly does disease work in the mundus? are there actual pathogens that cause them or is it all magical? does a cure-all "cure disease" potion even exist? judging by the thrassian plague and the knahaten flu i'm guessing that outbreaks are still possible and shit like that exists as a game only thing

>>53353959
>bandits are the true citizens of skyrim
except the bandit groups consist mostly of non-nords.

>>53362151
Surgery and healing as a whole are pretty vague
The old veteran in Soltitude lost his eye in the Great War and the temple of Kynareth in Whiterun had trouble with keeping up with the casualties
But every ingame character can regenerate and even be healed from the brink of death, with no permanent injuries
In the case of being healed it only takes mere seconds
As far as I know, none of this is ever explained. So i think its just a differencd between mechanics and lore

Bit of shame if you ask me. But I guess that is the problem you have when Restoration exists.
It greatly diminishes the risk of combat and life in general
It would be cool if Restoration as a school didnt exist and that actual surgery would have to take place. And that that surgery would be augmented by application of other schools, such as causturizing wounds with destruction

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>>53362670
Well you can still have people that are bad at magic and can't into Restoration. And a good way to make surgery relevant is say if you have fractured or misplace bones and flesh that just wont heal right. I imagine Restoration being just kicking your natural regeneration into hyper gear. And as we know the body can't heal everything by itself and if you can't get treatment in time it still leaves a scar. The veteran did say he was abandoned by the others. And alchemy is just channeling ingredients natural magical properties so I'm guessing it works the same and regular magic.

>>53361017
Hist Sap doesn't stop Redoran soldiers. Back to the swamp, yiffalicious.

>>53362831
>alchemy is just channeling ingredients natural magical properties
Wat
So it's not science

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>>53363121
And your capital city doesn't stop lizard infantry. Back to your crater, necrophiliac.
>>53363159
If you are referring real world ""alchemy"" then no. Alchemy in the real world is trying to create gold through different concoctions. Chemistry is the science.

>>53363273
No I meant in tes

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>>53363427
I don't know, I does seem to be anymore than cooking with weird shit.

>>53363518
doesn't*

>>53363427
In ES, study of magic is science.

>>53363273
>implying i'm a dunmer

>>53363560
What I'm asking is alchemy more than the careful application of certain ingredients at different temperatures mixtures and combination or is it literally just magic

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>>53363583
There is no reason to assume not. Dunmer are the most hated race aside from the Sload.

>>53363624
Yes.

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>>53363649

>>53363273
>Alchemy in the real world is trying to create gold through different concoctions.
Alchemy was an occult art and alot more complex than just primitive chemistry. The ''lead into gold'' thing itself was a metaphor for achieving spiritual transcendence.

>>53363642
There is no reason to assume I'm an Elf.
I love you Pelinal.

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>>53363742
>There is no reason to assume I'm an Elf.
How about the part with you being on the DIDF.

Since asking /v/ is like slamming your dick in a car door, I might as well ask here:

Which is the better sneaky bastard? Argonians or Khajiit?

>>53363781
?

>>53363943
Usually Khajiit.

>>53363961
Hm. Alright. I'll miss the Alteration bump, but I suppose it can't be helped.

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>>53363943
If you wanna class them by stat I'd say Khajiit are agility and Argonians are endurance. Khajiit would be less vertically challenged whiles Argonians could probably pass through cramped places better. Argonians would be better at robbing storages and generally hoarding stuff whiles Khajiit will steal more from people(pickpocket) and breaking in apartments via roof and windows apartment.

>be high elf painter
>live your entire life mastering your craft
>suddenly apes come swarming your island for no reason
>forced to surrender
>your gods favor the apes
>one of the apes becomes a god
>all the qt elves prefer to fuck men because of their bigger penis
>cucked by apes
>suddenly Oblivion crisis
>empire of the apes weaker than ever
>decide enough is enough and you gather all the nerd elves you can including your treefucker cousins
>beta uprising.scroll
>about to lose but the apes are infighting and die of old age
>get to white tower by pure luck
>Imperial apes decide a truce is necessary because they also had many losses, probably thinking they can regain their power as they breed faster than us
>brilliantplan.scroll
>apes have a subspecies called nords that live in the northest part of the world
>they're inbred, eat their own shit and have retard strenght
>abolish worship of ape god
>nord apes screech autisticly about muh Nord despite their culture being lost to imperial one in less than 20 years
>capture nord ape that kills people with autistic screech
>make him believe killing imperial apes will save them from the beta uprising
>nord apes kill imperial apes and other nord apes
>literally have to do nothing but watch them kill each other
>dragons arrive and start killing shit apes
>start crying of joy thinking the gods are back on your side
>suddenly an ape gets fucked by a dragon or something and the son is able to absorb dragon souls and kill people by shouting
>literally kills half the population of his country to stop the war
>kills all dragons
>Auri-El, the most important god in your pantheon sides with him
>reconquers everything singlehandedly
>all my nerd elf friends can't stop him
>worship of ape god re-enstablished
>apes come swarming your island again throwing shit everywhere, now more retarded than ever
>all your strongest warriors get shouted to pieces
>all the female elves want the dragon D
>tfw forced to paint his victory

>>53365784
Being Altmer must be suffering.

Good.

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>>53366071
>When Altmer suffer more than Orcs and Dunmer.

>>53357404
>>53355996
>>53355705
Shit, even the *SLAVE* in the wedding quest mentions knowing houshold servant spells.

Anybody have that MS Paint comic of Pelinal being rejected by Alessia?

>>53336726
But

But

My Altmer waifus.

>>53365784
I know you just got that from the fudgemuppet video

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>>53367569

>>53367505
Your waifu a shit. A SHIT!

Dunmer for life, yo!

>>53367505
All Human men should cuck Altmer into extinction.

>>53363624
Both. There are charms involved, and rituals necessary. For example, you can't just grind a diamond down with your bare hand, you use a charm do make it dust. You use incantations when brewing to make it stronger. You align the Calcinatior just right on a full moon, etc.

>>53367849
Fair enough, Altmer already tried to do so and just made magical humans. You'd probably end up with shorter, manlier, retarded Altmer.

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>>53367505
>Liking girls that dwarf you.

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This son of a kwama slaps the ground near you and squeaks, what do

>>53368417
Pet scrib and cuddle. Unless it looks like the ESO abomination.

>>53367849
Race goes from mothers side, you subhuman. You will make more altmer....on the otherhand, do it. More waifus for me...

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>Be Human Nerevarine
>Get Corpus cured.
>Holy shit I'm gonna live forever without aging.
>Haha immune to disease as well, nice.
>This is the raddest shit ever.

>Be Altmeri/Bosmeri Nerevarine
>Get Corpus cured.
>Oh, cool, I guess I get to live forever. I was going to live a long time anyways but hey, that's really sweet.
>Oh, disease immunity. I never really got sick in the first place, but I guess it's not bad.
>Meh.

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>>53366145
>When Bosmer suffer more than Altmer, Orcs, and Dunmer combined.
But really, they sound like down to earth people. Would probably be cool to go fishing with.

>>53368586
After reading dwarf fortress stories i wouldn't trust a short guy to fish

>>53328303
The specific callout to Bretons implies they're unique though, say somewhere between elven and human like a full-on half-elf would be... Really makes you think.

>>53351281
Weird island people have weird religions, more at 11.

>>53368551
>Playing a non-dunmer Nerevarine

>>53362670
I'll have you know that Restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic.

>>53369551
What about Argonian nerevarines

>>53369607
Azura doesn't even like argonians

>>53333587
It's mentioned in the racial description and pretty much every game

>>53369655
That just makes it even better.

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>>53369551
>they cut your feet off specifically so you could fuck off and be free
>you choose to play as a dunmer and go back to morrowind
Sasuga.

>>53370099
Wouldn't you?

>tfw your name is a common Finnish name
>tfw the character in skyrim that has the same name is a female elf

>>53370900
Mirri? It sounds feminine senpai.

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>>53370900
Mongoloids are pretty ayy lmao looking.

>>53370938
No Ari

>>53368767
Yeah, what is the deal with Bretons? If race goes via mother in ES, how come you get a whole half-breed race? Were they fucking so much that the mixture took hold in the end?

>>53371040
Cute

>>53371040
That sounds pretty fucking female. I mean it doesn't even sound like something that can be used for both.

>>53371076
Some traits from the fathers are kept. They're still half-breeds but they resemble their mothers the most.

>>53371076
Eugenics.

>>53371099
So that means they are much much much much much closer to humans than elves.

>>53371116
>much much much much much
That's a lot of muchs anon. Bretons are still gifted in magic unlike other humans and earlier breeds were strikingly similar to elves. So much so that the raiding Nord party didn't even recognize them at first glance.

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>>53371134
In Skyrim Imperial have the highest starting Restoration and have Enchanting and Destruction. Its not that humans are magical infants they are just less. Redguard also have Destruction and Alteration. In fact Nords are just confirmed stupid.

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>>53371235
Skyrim racial bonuses are greaves on head retarded.
>Redguards having magic skill bonuses when they're the most mage-wary race and actually have to supplement the lack of mages with cannons

>>53341067
>Think if they got it working before original release they would have added some kind constant effect dust adept helm or something?

You become completely immune to disease during the main quest, the is likely the intended counter.

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>>53371281
I don't get that, its been stated that they specifically hate Illusion and disregard the rest. Nord hate necromancy the most but hate everything else as well. And from what I'm seeing is they are trying to push RG as some sort of blade-mancers, see Skyrim and TES Legends, yes yes i know.

>>53371377
>I'm Trayvond the Redguard, Mages Guild Evoker. Surprised? Yes, you don't see many Redguards in the Mages Guild. We don't much like spellcasters in Hammerfell. Wizards steal souls and tamper with minds. If you use magic, you're weak or wicked. My family didn't approve of my vocation, so I had to come to Cyrodiil for my education. I admit... I still have strong prejudices against necromancy, summoning, and illusion. Profaning the remains or souls of the dead is just wrong. And I'm uneasy about tampering with other's minds and trafficking with Daedra.
This guy is only okay with most magic schools because he's open-minded.

>>53367849
That's not how cucking works in Tamriel

>>53371377
The Leif Eriksons shout and heal, and the Blackjaps use weeaboo fitan magicks. they're both mostly opposed to tricky elf magic and not the entire concept of it.

Friendly reminder that back i the days Nords were more than okay with magic.
>[Nordic] These massive steel weapons are forged according to the secret metalcrafts of the Nord smiths, and engraved with runes in the manner of the legendary witch-warriors of Skyrim.
But then they degenerated into drooling retarded nudists.

>>53371441
[Insert Forebears and Crowns on open-mindedness argument here.]
I mean they could be changing their opinion over time.

>>53371461
Shouts and sword-singing are not exactly magic.

>>53371473
>I mean they could be changing their opinion over time.
Beth really did cut itself some slack with this 200 timeskip.

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>>53371513
It was to shoehorn the ebil jew elves because you just must have a clear ebil guys. And they chose the lowest effort kind of ebil guy - something something supremacists. And the Thalmor even contradict the Altmer path to divinity. The Thalmor want to destroy existence so there is no other than divinity, the original Altmer way is to achieve it through self-perfection and purity.

>>53371471
>tfw skyrims concept art has some wizards telekineticly carrying the fuckhuge stones in nordic ruins

>>53371770
>CRUNCH

>>53371770
Skyrim's concept art is simply epic. It made them look like what the Kamal are described as. To get into a fucking city you have to climb a shit ton of tiny stare covered in ice. The cities were huge stone block covered in ice.

>>53371835
Adam ;_;

>>53368353
Altmer women are twigs. You might like women who can pick you up by your dick, the rest of us don't.

>>53371444
It can.

>>53369551
>Being a Cyrodiilic Dunmer
Death is better.

Besides, Bretons, Nords, and Bosmer are my go-to.

>>53368749
Mermaid bones are one thing, chilling out with country elves and having a relaxing day at the dock with someone simple and less pretentious sounds pleasant.

>>53371281
>>53371441
I'm pretty sure dialogue in Morrowind even says they make the worst mages.

>>53372393
So are Bosmeri women, Breton women, Dunmeri women, and even Khajiiti women. They also are average to shorter than average height,

>>53371471
WE WUZ

>>53373743
SORCERERZ

Where's the tribunal Chaika?

>>53371444
So it's like a reverse cucking, where all that matters to a race is the women being attractive enough to get plowed?

>>53373940
Yes. It's like the Jews.

>>53373940
>reverse cucking
What? Cucking is cucking. ES universe is just tuned in such a way that you won't be able to tell if your wife is a whore or not. Quantum cuckold, if you will.

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>>53374307
>you won't be able to tell if your wife is a whore or not
Well that's fairly easy to find out. Is she a Dunmer? Is she a Breton? Is she worshiping Dibella? Is she worshiping Mephala? Is she a vampire? If yes or maybe to any of these your wife is a 100% classified whore and you have fantasy AIDS.

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>>53374361
Yep, pretty much.