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First off, that’ll teach you for turning your back on the Emperor, edition.

>daily dunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAu1i6aChs [Embed] [Embed]
>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
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>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>8th edition FAQ:
https://warhammer40000.gw-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/New-Edition-of-40K-FAQ.pdf2
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MARINE'D
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First for stupid fucking kneecaps
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>>53247778

>playing marinelets

Not even once
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>>53247772
What really? You mean the ones on the GW site now? Am I high?
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>>53247810
He means Thousand Sons.
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>>53247793
Hold on, let me help you.
Someone modify that picture with the Eldar being Chaos and the marine having the MkX helmet.
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>>53247797
>PAULDRONS
>ON
>KNEES
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>>53247793

More like

>PRIMARIS'D
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>>53247823

Just clip the trim if you don't like it, ya daft cunt
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>ywn feel the smug satisfaction of knowing that you gave the general public information direct information from a black shirt about Primaris marines last week
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>>53247778
>tfw the scythes of the emperor get reborn full of supermarines
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>>53247766

I'm upset by numarines because I picked up Space Marines so I could be the main characters, the saviors of the galaxy. Now it's clear that we're just IG vets in power armor, and these NEW guys are the main characters.
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>>53247868

>How can I make this announcement about me
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>>53247778
Digging the hella jeff reference.
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>>53247887
Can't tell if this is false flag or not
>I want to be the main character
kys
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>>53247823
KNEEDRONS
they're still fucking stupid
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>>53247868
the first rumor about them was during the end times of warhammer fantasy though
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>>53247823
I like it a lot.
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Wait a sex...

Is 100% lasgun viable in 8ed?
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PRIMARIS WULFEN WHEN
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>mfw marine players getting literally cucked by GW
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>Primaris Dreadnought
>Boxes on Cylinders will be completely BTFO by Cylinders on Boxes.
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>>53247921
No, not at all.
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>>53247912
Yeah, and I went to my GW last Saturday where my black shirt then infodumped the shit out of me. I went home and posted here and got heckled for it.

It's even more hilarious for the "it's a kitbash" crowd.
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>>53247906
Fuck you, I started the game when I was 13. I saw my brother playing it, and I asked who the good guys were.

That was the army that I spent five years spending time and money on, the concept that got me into the hobby in the first place. And now they're throwing it out the window for shits and giggles.
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lookz like iz gunna get a new helmet for me pointy stick
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>When he was first issued his 40mm base, the rest of the squad knew he was destined for sargeness
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>>53247823
Its actually pretty good, extra protection for the soft belly area while shooting from the knee.
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>>53247921
Not really
You can potentially kill everything with the lasgun now, but we've already seen a few units that you'd need 3-4 time more points spent in guardsmen (if the points will remain roughly the same) then the units you are shooting at
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Nu-guardsmen when? :(
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Primaris Terminator
Primaris GKs
Primaris Legion of the Damned
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>>53247826
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>>53247984
Why make nu-guardsmen when you can just take primaris marines for the IG army?
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>>53247974
>People will laugh about it if I post it again

On that note, it is ideed weird he has a 40mm base while the others seem to have a 32.
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>>53247974
Sarge is the Redtop in the back, He's a Hero
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So we're getting normal marines with new Mark IX armor?
Because these primaris have X...
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>>53247977
Then why isn't that solder wearing knee pauldrons?
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>>53247823
Good God-Emperor! The Pauldrons are consuming his Arms!
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>>53247974
Dassa capn or vet sarge sir! You can see the red sarge helm behind him
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>>53247971
Kek
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>>53247967
>5 years
You poor child.
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>>53247985
>Primaris Legion of the Damned
>Marines cucked even in the after life.
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>>53247823
Yeah they look awesome

Well, that art looks like shit, but the actual models look awesome
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>>53247921
Against infantry heavy armies lasguns will do better than they do right now, you will need a backline of autocannons/LRs/artillery for dealing with the heavy T6 stuff with tons of wounds, jut like now
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>>53248016
He's not awesome enough
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>>53248016
Because american soldiers aren't worth the money of all those knee pauldrons
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>>53248008
Because I built a guard army to play guard, not marines

I'm waiting on sisters for my power armoured allies, I want all my solders to just be T3 humans
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>>53247985
>Primaris Terminator
pls be saturnine
pls be saturnine
pls be saturnine
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>>53247984

I don't think they can NuGuardsman the IG line. I mean they can provide a new regiment but at the end of the day a dude with a rifle is a dude with a rifle.
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>New Chapters filled with Prime Beef Marines
>All the good colour schemes have already been taken by Marinelets

What's a guy to do?
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>>53248013
>>53248021

Cheers. Forgot that lowly sergeants were not admitted to the Guilliman Powerstance Academy.
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> *Range 30, Strength 4, AP -1 and Rapid Fire.

Holy shit, that's brutal
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>>53247967
5 years?
Sweet summer child. Try 20.

Lucky for me one of my armies got constant updates while my other two got the short end of the stick. Hell one has models from 1997!
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>>53248050
I know this is bait but do you know how much it costs to train and outfit a single American solder?
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>>53248062
>implying they won't be nu-contemptors

I'm genuinely surprised that box-dreads haven't already been phased out somehow
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>>53247974
Can't wait to convert me up some Nu-Grey knights using these numarine parts. :)
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>>53247977

>its such a good concept that no known military in the world uses this
>reinforces this by using a real life photo of a soldier with mspainted knee trim

the state of you
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>>53248011
>ctrl-f didn't find the old one.
>thought it hadn't posted
>desperationcomedian.gif
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>>53248081
It wasn't bait, it was a joke
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>>53248067
>just normal dudes with rifles
And that's what makes the guard beautiful
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>>53248076
My guardsmen will still get a 6+ against that so it's better than normal bolters now
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>>53248119
ikr they're almost cute
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>Work of 10k years
>S4

Cawl? More like "Don't Cawl us we'll Cawl you!"
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LOL, what did I tell you babies months ago. Enjoy buying up all these new marines and enjoy having your collection become obsolete manlets. Regular marines are night basically a horde army. This really warms my cold heart to no end!
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>>53247778
>GW: Bolters lost their AP
>Playtesters: Does this mean Spec Marine aren't op?
>GW: Hold on, we'll think of something.
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>>53248072
Steal their colours and outbreed them
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I'm actually quite fond of these
Can't wait to fluff a faction that immediately turned traitor as soon as they got their ships
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>>53248110
Jokes aren't allowed on /tg/
>because people with autism usually have a hard time getting jokes
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>>53248144
They're essentially the same profile as Galvanic rifles. I'll be completely unsurprised if they're even called "Galvanic Bolters" or something equally banal.
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>>53248150

What army do you play?
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>>53248060
>T3
Based brother

T3 everyday all the time!
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Anons pls help i am new and want to know how to paint like this
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So which parts of numarines are bigger?

Is it just the legs?

Im hoping i dont lose out much since my new shit will still be on the sprue.
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>>53248076
>> *Range 30, Strength 4, AP -1 and Rapid Fire.
sauce?
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>>53248173
It's said in the video
>MkII Cawl-pattern Bolt Rifle
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>>53248199
everything.
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>>53248203
end of the article
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>>53248144

>Cawl works 10k years in order to reinvent Rifling.
And they say the Mechanicus can't innovate.
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>>53248142
In the command squad they have a dude with his arm in a sling, like could you imagine a space marine model like that? No because space marines fuck off to their space cathedrals and get fixed, or the apothecary patches them up with some super drugs and the armour compensates for the injury, but this guardsmen was shoota whipped by an ork, given some bandaging, and then kept fighting, now that's badass, thinking of making him my standard bearer because he really exemplifies the guardsmen
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>>53248203
LITERALLY in the article mate
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>>53248195
Go to the WiP thread
There are also some decent painting tutorials on the Warhammer youtube channel
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>>53248199
>Are the kits compatible with existing Space Marine kits?

>Good Question. There are certainly elements of the existing Space Marines kits that will be cross-compatible, while the new armour mark means that some parts won’t mix as easily. Shoulder pads and helmets are the same scale, and will still work, whereas the legs, torso and arms are different, and not quite as interchangeable. In terms of the Primaris sets themselves, you’ll have loads of fun kit-bashing them.
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Primarines, the primadonas of 40k
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>>53248156
What's that red circle symbol on his waist mean, do we know? Looks kind of Chaos.
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>>53248199
You could read the FAQ?

But if you can't read the FAQ, it's torso, arms and legs.
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>>53248154
When is the alt right gonna start screeching about how soon old marines will become a minority because they are being outbred?
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>>53248173
They're Cawl paattern bolt rifles.

Looks like longer barrel and probably heavier charge gives longer range and better penetration.
or they're just loaded with kraken bolts as standard.
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>GW boxes marines with 25mm bases
>GW switches marines to 32mm bases to give them more room
>GW creates big guy 4u marines
>GW still puts them on 32mm bases
>back to square one, except everything is bigger

Really activates the almonds
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>>53248248
>Alt
>Right

They're all for it.
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>>53248222
He did develop the nu-marines in that time as well.
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>>53248220
>>53248224
Now I feel dumb. Thanks
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>>53248175
>implying more that 10% of the 40kg actually plays 40k

I'm guessing last time he played everyone was freaking out about 3.5
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>>53248232
The helmet looks like some kind of power ranger shit.
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>yfw the Primaris Dreadnoughts are just Centurions
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>>53248231
lol so i basically have 10-20% of a Primaris on order.
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>>53248249
>Rifles
>Rifling

They're boltguns with swirly shit in their barrels.
The fucking Genius.
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>>53248173
They are called Cawl pattern Bolt Rifles
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>>53248285
Thats MK IV you pleb
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>>53248263
A thousands dollars for a shitty conversion?

He's going to be one of those guys who endless reslist the item over and over because they can't take the hint that its priced to high.
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>>53248231
>shoulder pads and helmets are the same scale
Making me some greyknight primemarine soon
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Chaos marines on suicide watch!

As much as I like the new Marines. I would rather have updated kits for decade old models
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>>53248238
Mark from Rogue Trader and 2nd edition.
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>all these super marines ready and stored away
>none else knew
>none else ever found them
>never, in over 10 thousands years of doomsday scenarios, a single batch of numarines had been awakened

are they going to give a reason for why only with bobby we get them or do I have to keep the mental image of cawl blueballing for 100 centuries as he edges the big blue button reading the galaxy's newspaper about the new emerging threat that's always bigger than the last?
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>>53248330
Chaos will get the same shit but under different lore.
I aint holding my breath that we'll be spared this kikery
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>*Range 30, Strength 4, AP -1 and Rapid Fire.
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>>53248238
I'm going to bet it represents terra eclipsing mars
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>>53248319
He forgot "pro-painted"
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>>53248344
He probably hid them in Webway or something?
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>>53248212
>>53248249
>>53248308
>Mk.II Cawl-pattern Bolter
>Mk. X Power armour

JUST
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>>53248364
What's the problem?
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>>53248298
Well it would be better to have the rounds spin stablized from the get go instead of just when the rocket kicks in.
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My friend wants to make an army of Astra Militarium that aren't chaos but are rebels against the emperor. How could this work in the lore?
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>>53248344
Cawl likely committed tech heresy in doing so. Given the massive ecclesiarchal hardon the imperium and admech have since the HH, without guilliman he might have been in tough shit
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I'm planning on playing 5e and I have a pair of questions
Do I have to commit the entire army to a single mark? For example, if I pick for a single squad the mark of nurgle I can't pick a different mark for another squad (this seems obvious, but I have to make sure)

Considering plague marines is what I'm aiming to field, which is to say a nurgle army, do I gain anything by throwing some demons into the mix or the lack of dakka will make it not worth?

also just for fluff, do you guys know of any nurgle-themed warband?
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>>53248405
Whats the issue?
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>>53248427
It's very very common for sometimes entire planets including their PDF and guard regiments to rebel for non chaos reasons
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/a-new-breed-of-hero-may15gw-homepage-post-1/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/primaris-space-marines-faq-may15gw-homepage-post-2/
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>>53248427
See Severan Dominate, that stuff is all over OW source book.
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>>53248427
lorewise they'd just be renegades, y'know, rebels
such things exist
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>>53248413
It ruins regular bolters for me. Why use an old bolter when there's a new primabolter in the shop for sale?
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>>53248427
Renegade planets are a thing, they could be tau defectors or just have struck out on their own so to speak.
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people find the primaris marines cool and clean because they have been painted cool and clean

can't wait to see some shittily painted marines on /tg/ after the initial hype and laugh how out of place they look
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>>53248413
The AP -1
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>>53248427
There are tons of ways, with the way the Imperium works

It could be an army that, after having being attacked for years by an enemy armies but having always seen its request for help being ignored, after having finally won, said "Fuck the Emperor" and started doing its own thing
With the new scar cutting in two the Galaxy they are going to be separated from the central power, and anything can happen in that situation
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>>53248156
I thought I was going crazy when I realized the eyes shined every few seconds. But then I realized it was .gif.
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So is the numarine todays release? Will there be a faction focus?
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>>53248483
how would they look out of place if the rest of the army is painted like shit, too
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we're fucct better burn all
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>>53248505
yea
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>>53248505
Probably will be.
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>>53248450
Where is the Mk.9 armour?
Isn't the Godwynn-pattern bolter or whatever the marines currently use already Mk.5 or something?

There are gaps here. Gaps that need explaining .
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>>53248512
So, do you think it'll be a xeno faction focus?
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>>53248511
That's okay. Unless marines 2.0 have a 2+ and T5, we'll still shred them at range.
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>>53248511
I told you mongoloids that they were bigger taller and better, but nope each and every one of you kept saying "wahhh they are no taller than the new DW, wahhh they are the same height the TS" Get fucking anally annihilated. I hope you all have to buy new armies now.
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>>53248500
oh shit
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>>53248505
The end of the numarine article said to stay posted for a third page today about how the numarines actually worked. Would be sorta strange for them to do three pages on a single topic, then throw out a faction focus the same day.
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>>53248528
Imperium is the one with most factions, so I'd say it's more likely that it will be one of them

It would also keep the Chaos-Imperium-Xenos pattern that some anons expect from it
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gw won't ever say how many primaris marines there are
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>>53248556
Fuck. Goddamn it GW, just gimme something Orkoid.
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anyone have link for the helsreach audiobook?

ive tried searching but cant find one.
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>was (((this))) close to buying some space marines to round out my Fallen but bought burning of prospero instead
at least it makes sense my guys are underpowered
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Literally can't find this weapon profile people are talking about in the article. Is this elaborate bait?
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>>53248427
Look like a case of Genestealer infestation
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Will there be new Primaris Terminators? I mean they already confirmed dreadnoughts so Termis are next right?
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>>53248528
Chaos->Imperium->Denis
Elite->Horde

This has been the pattern so far last one was Daemons, chaos horde, so Imperium elites were slated for today. IE numarines. Xenos in next FF two days from now, Xenos horde, so probably orks or nids.
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>>53248580
http://audiobookbay.me/audio-books/helsreach-space-marine-battles-warhammer-aaron-dembski-bowden/
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>>53248593
Fuck that, loyalist already got 4 different flavors of terminators
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>>53248601
Well heck, thanks anon.
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>>53248589
>The Primaris Space Marine here is an Intercessor wearing Mk X Tacticus armour, a suit that combines the most effective elements of ancestral Horus Heresy patterns of plate with more recent developments in power armour technology. He carries into battle a bolt rifle: the archetypal firearm of Space Marines, re-engineered, re-crafted and perfected*.

At the dawn of the Indomitus Crusade, these phenomenal new warriors join Guilliman as he fights to liberate the scattered bastions of the Imperium. Some, Guilliman has forged into new Space Marine Chapters, whole brotherhoods comprised only of these new warriors. Others he has offered to the existing Space Marine Chapters. Many Chapter Masters have welcomed their Primaris brethren into their ranks, accepting the new reinforcements gladly. Others, though, view these new creations with suspicion or outright hostility, claiming that the Emperor’s work should not have been meddled with.

Though they are a step removed from their brothers, the Primaris Space Marines still bear the gene-seed of their Primarchs, and some dissenting voices worry how this new type of warrior will react with the known genetic quirks and flaws of some of the more unusual Chapters…

*Range 30, Strength 4, AP -1 and Rapid Fire.
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Nurgle dudes in the video.
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>>53248593
Probably, and here I was about to go for Custodes after finish my BAs. Primaris is just so rad.
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>>53248589
Just scroll down the second article of today, it's near the end
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>>53248589
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>>53248223
I'm taking this a step further, myself. Grabbed some upgrades from forgeworld and found this metal wounded guardsman on EBay. Betting I can build a whole squad of walking wounded for my next platoon
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>>53248618
It's bell dude.
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>>53248614
Are we even talking about the same article? The Primaris Space Marines FAQ? Because none of that text appears on the page for me. Maybe the full article isn't out for USA fags or some shit
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>>53248609
yes but primaris terminators would be significantly different and wouldn't replace those terminators in any way ;^)
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>>53248634
just noticed that little bastard hangin on his back/bell
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>>53248647
Are you sure about that
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>>53248427
Read the book Shadowsword. It's about a non-chaos rebellion that is eventually co-opted by chaos later on.>>53248623
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>>53248646
>>53248614
Found it. Whoops
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>>53248646
>Gee Space Marines, how come the Emperor lets you have TWO articles?
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>>53248646
There are two articles, you dumb cunt.
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>>53248344
he's been working on them for 10 000 years
they haven't been ready for that long
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>>53248660
I'm sure, my dad works at GW
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>>53248646
This one:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/a-new-breed-of-hero-may15gw-homepage-post-1/
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>>53248263
Cappy-Sarges on 40's with their power stances tho
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>>53248609
Should have stay loyal.
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>>53248671
Congrat on getting cured of blindness. anon.
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>>53248676
>So what does this mean for you gamers and collectors out there and your Space Marine armies? Well, we’ve made this FAQ that explains exactly how this new breed of warriors fit into your collections. For those of you curious as to exactly how these new Space Marines work in the game, we’ll have more details on that later today, so stay posted.
actually, three
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Be sure to tune in next week, when we will take a look at the Primaris Chaos Space Marines!
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>>53248698
Faction Focus Primaris Marines!
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>>53248685
Thats a NuCaptain. NuSrgt is behind him with a pure red helm.

>You think Rowboat would let a mere Srgt have such a power pose!?
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>>53248548
Someone's buttblasted.
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>>53248601
Xenos*, screw my phone

>>53248610
Np. I too want to see some Xenos-goodness.
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i bet 5$ that the primaris marineification process makes their skin as fucked up as your average death guard's hence they all wear helmets. something about the black carapace
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>>53247974
>The look on infinity fag's faces when we have not only more customizable models, but better looking ones too.
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>>53248749
There is mohawk guy in trailer from old leak.
>captcha guillare calle
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>>53247974

>no female heads
>no boob plate

WAH WAH BUT MUH FEMALE MARINES
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>>53248763
fuck
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>>53248749
that or Cawl pointed out that after 10,000 years of getting domed space marines ought to keep their god damned helmets on
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>>53248749
Well there is one guy that doesnt in the trailer.
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>mfw i havent even started playing and ive already been burnt by GW

I blame this general too, you fags told me these dudes were just an extra unit so i bought stuff instead of waiting
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>>53248768
5 dollars pls
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>>53248687
Should have stayed in your cell Mr. Findlay
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>>53248749
I am confident one of the first we get to see without helmet will be a nigger
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>>53248766
This. Finally the FSM fags can shut the fuck up.
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This rubs me the wrong way and I wish they'd just phased in true scale marines instead.

5 years from now are they still going to be selling poorly sized marines? Most likely yes. So the same problems still exists and now we have another fucking marines army awkwardly forced into the setting.

Meh. Colour me unimpressed.
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>>53248775
They are, retard.
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>>53248775
And they are...?
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>>53248775
but they are an extra unit :^)
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>>53248775
But they are.
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>>53248775
should have listened to me. Instead you listened to all the oldfags with manlet models who insisted you suffer with them in their manlet misery. In 5 years, you won't see an army with manlet marines.
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>>53248787
>>53248790
But they are better at everything and can go in any space marine army. Why would anyone get the old marines now
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>>53248786

Yeah I like the models but the lore really stinks but that is also keeping in touch with their recent fluff offerings anyway
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>>53248608
>http://audiobookbay.me/audio-books/helsreach-space-marine-battles-warhammer-aaron-dembski-bowden/

thanks dude, I was trying to figure out how to download that without making an account and I figured it okay.

Cheers
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>>53248812
so are grey knights, custodians and death watches

hell why is everyone even playing power armored marines when there's terminators
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>>53247974
What if thats not a sergeant

What if thats a leader of some kind
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>>53248785
My hopes for proper plastic SoB has increase from 0% to 0.001% the highest it has been since the cruel realisation of 4th edition ending without new SoB models
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>>53248812
How can we know until we actually see the rules?
Maybe they fucked up and they cost double points each for +1T, so you wouldn't want to field them
Maybe they do the opposite and become the WAACfag tier army and no one want to play against them

Or, maybe, they can be roughly balanced compared to the current marines and you can play whatever you want
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>>53248825
GK, Custodes, and DW are all specialists, focusing on a specific threat or role. These guys are just Marines+1, in the same way that a normal SM is a Guardsman+1
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>>53248841
Seriously, though. Who would want to play manlet marines? If CSM don't get big enough new marine models I am renouncing my heresy.
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>>53248816
Im happy to give them the chance on the lore front still, weve only seen a preview.

But I dont see how Space Marines armies are going to move forward from this point now. Like are they going to make new manlet kits for them? Because if they make them 'true scale' arent they Primaris marines now? So eventually are SM just invalidated?
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Bets on prices?

I'm betting it's gonna be 50 for 5 of them.
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>>53248852
Then why are people playing IG when there are the SM?
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>>53248601
Denis too op in 8th. Nerf immediately
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>>53248870
It's too late, you're stuck with us.
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>>53248871
I think they will keep the old kits available for a couple of years, then squat them. The future has a name and it is called primarines.
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>>53248785
>This. Finally the FSM fags can shut the fuck up.
That naivety.

The only way they'd shut up is if FSM were actually released.
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>>53248875
45$ for 10.
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>>53248906
Anon that won't shut them up either. They'll find a way to bitch about it.
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>>53248875
30 quids for 10 sounds about right. Rest of the world can get fucked.
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>>53248783
And I'll laugh at how booty sore insecure whities will get get and how they'll make excuses about "muh social conditioning"
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>>53248900
>then squat them
I agree so why not just do it now? This way SM arent invalidated in the setting. Just seems odd.
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>>53248783

I'm not a racist white boi but that is an incredibly safe bet.
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>>53247974
Mk 4 helmet, mk 8 gorget and knee covering greaves.

Funny how I masked up that combo years ago.
Only thing missing is bracers covering the back of the hand.
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>>53248932
it would cause too much a backlash to squat them now. People want to play 8th right when it comes out. If they're armies are invalidated before that, then GW loses people and thus sales.
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>>53248828
GW is edging us harder than ever, plastic sisters are mentioned at least once a week these days, I refuse to believe it's just a an elaborate way to troll a good percent of audience with money in the bank ready to be spent on nu-sisters
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>>53248871
Bet they will release new marines with each Primarch's return.
And after all the Primarch has return, marinelets will truly be squatted. Should about 5 years or more.
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>>53247984
If they made plastic Guard the same scale as FW makes DKK and Elysians, I'd be happy beyond words.
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>>53248953
Till I can put a fully assemble SoB plastic miniature into some drunk college girl asshole I won't believe it's true
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>>53248945
Just release true scale kits instead of a new marines + bullshit and nothing needs to get squated. It just seems so unnecessary.
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>>53248932
To give people time to adjust. If they don't they might lose a lot of players who will look at their battle companies and just say "meh, fuck it".

I have mixed feelings about the new marines. On one hand I love the models and think that's how they should have looked from the beginning. On the other hand they are the physical manifestation of how fucked up the lore has become, and from this point forward I can officially forget about enjoying the fluff.
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>Picatinny rail bolters
We tacticool now.
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>>53248923
MFW I'll be in britbong land the month 8th releases

Fingers crossed Corbin wins and rapes your guys economy so I can get models on the cheap
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>>53248976
They also wanted to update the models. Longer Gun, better looking armor etc. They needed lore reasons to do this, and regardless if you like it or not, it will get people to buy the new marines.
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>>53248987
Meant to post this.
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>>53248987
MK X is Tacticus armor too. Hard to think of a shittier name for power armor.
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>>53248989
>tfw you forget to crop a screenshot on your phone from ifunny

What's the most painless way to kill myself?
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>>53248984
We basically got Stormcast marines.
The lore right now feels like AoS minus the axing.

The only good character from NuLore is Cawl. Maybe GayFox for lesbian and sailor moon jokes
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>>53248989
>Fingers crossed Corbin wins
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>>53249014

recharge your phone before you do, stupid idiot
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>>53248975
I read that as you wanting to assemble a SoB while the bits are inside of a girl's rectum
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>>53249016

At least we don't have the annoying hyper focus on Khorne Bloodbloods in 40k. World Eaters are just not that big in 40k.
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>>53248993
Maybe I'm not making myself clear. The new models and tech is fine. Just why make these 'true scale' models a new type of SM? Why not just fix/replace the old shitty models? I dont understand why its necessary for the Primarius marines to exist at all. Especially when this means manlet marines still exist they're just not very good.
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>>53249054
To stop marinelet players from ragequitting. It's that simple.
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>>53248573
its not like there is a static number of them, im sure they are just like space marines, they die, you take their juicy heart and put it in some kid somewhere and grow a new marine
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>>53249077
Most people would jump at the opportunity to buy newer improved models for their army. TSons had their sorcerers handicapped to force staves and noone freaked out.
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>>53249054
I get what your saying. The reason is basically because if they released these as truescale marines and not a new unit, then Space Marine players would feel even more invalidated than they do now. They would be complaining non-stop as to why there was no warning and want refund for their marines. This way GW gets to not give refunds and they cut down on the complaints.
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>>53249077
>>53249054
Additionally, I think they are trying to make marinelets players buy a single unit then deciding that it's time to switch to primaris all the way. Like putting a unit in the starting box set or doing a good price for some stuff to start the addiction
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>>53248573

GW can't into numbers you don't even want them to do it

They will probably cook up some inane number that realistically speaking could never go on a crusade and reclaim the universe like say only 1000 and they sent only a squad of 10 to each chapter
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>new primaris marines, a collaberation with best chapter primarch and bellsarius cawl of mars
wheres my new techmarine primaris models?
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>>53249117
No, most people who have spent an awful lot of time and money on their armies would NOT jump at the chance to put them in the bin and start over from nothing.
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Okay /tg/, GW has offered to let you have a magic copy of all the rules and book being released which cannot be copied or posted online, but can be taken to your LGS to be played, along with a 20 man box of nu-marines painted by Duncan
The only price is you must get fucked in the ass raw by Duncan and let him finish inside, do you do it?
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>>53249034
Well in theory you can do that with the proper medical equipment.
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>>53249117
There are people in these threads angry about this, saying GW is making them buy their army again.

That would be much worse if they squatted regular marines.
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>>53249141
They wouldnt have to start over from nothing retard.
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Honestly, I think this was the best result

If it was some exclusive ULTRAMARINES thing, you'd get people whining they couldn't take them.

If it was just a new dry scale marine update, everyone would complain that they'd have to replace their entire armies.

By making it optional for everyone, any body outraged and rejecting these new marines can do so and be justified in lore, and anyone who wants them can take them without issue
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>>53249130
did you not even read the faq? they literally said some chapters got entire companys, while other chapters who were decimated got even more
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>>53248177
>>53248060
Fuck yeah T3. That's why I love having my Inquisitor and her warband as well as scions and Guard. I have all kinds of T3 models in my list. They only T4 I allow are Yarrick and Straken.
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>>53249146
Yes, is this meant to be difficult?
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>>53249146
>The only price is you must get fucked in the ass raw by Duncan

These hypothetical scenarios really say more about you than they do anyone who answers them.
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>>53249160
you mean KEKED in lore
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>>53249146
i think i can wait until june to start playing, thanks for the offer though dunc
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>>53248344

Just like the Clone army.

It's pottery. It rhymes
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>>53249117
kek ive only bought one set of old marines and im already mad, i cant imagine the rage if i had started the hobby a year ago and build up an army
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>>53249160
Or they could update the 1-2 decade old models instead.

You know Orks, IG, SoB, Eldar, Necrons, etc
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>>53249146
Sure, why not. Helps me get my Thousand Sons rules and other chaos stuff to use with my buds early so it's worth.
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>>53249168
That's what's amazing about T4 guardsmen, it means they must be ultimate badasses to be that dead 'ard
>yarrik with a warboss statline when?
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>>53249159
I'm afraid you're the retard here. Everything will be primaris sized going forward. How are primarines going to fit into a rhino when marinelets are already badly scaled to it, etc.
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>>53248812

>6 inch extra range bolter
>with a tiny bit of rend
>confirmed to be expensive as fuck
>"you won't have many of them"

>better at everything

Are you retarded man? Don't worry it's okay to admit you are a retard on an anonymous board
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>>53249126
>>53249129
Youre making good points it just seems retarded to me that SM are now outdated in all but name. Its clear that PSM will eventually replace them even just because the models are shit.

So instead of SM players getting new models theres a new better version of a SM that they can swap to instead.
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>>53249168
>scions

shit thats how they nuguardsman everyone. all regiments and guardsmen replaced by tempestus scions
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What does everyone like to drink while hobbying?
I personally enjoy cheap boxed wine and lots of water
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>>53249194
Necrons don't really need it, but you're right on the others.

In saying that as long as they're walking marines, this was one of the less stupid options.
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>>53248818
>>53248818
>how to download that without making an account
HOW?
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>>53248076
Wounding dreads on a 5+ with a 4+ save.

The old dreads at least.

Primaris dreads are probably T 8, 2+ so they can shrug off most small-arms.

Note that they say 'rapid fire' but we know that rapid fire can have more than 1 or 2 shots now. These things could be Rapid Fire 2 and out-shoot heavy bolters at 15".
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>>53249220

where do you buy cheap boxed wine?
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Will they ever do new Cadian sculpts? I just want to play the common man, without them looking like shit.
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>>53249229
Necron warrior kit is like from 2004? Maybe 2007? If the kit has more than 10 years it needs an update
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>>53249242
>even has the knee armor
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>>53249252
>I just want to play the common man, without them looking like shit.

we got you senpai
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>>53249218
GW said in a comment on their fb page that no new kits for normal marines is envisionned. They might not squat them, but Primarines will definitelt slowly take their place as the range expands.
Am I bootyblasted over that? A bit. But it's truescale marines so fuck it.
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>>53249204
So why are people binning their marines? You kinda just moved past that with no comment.
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>>53249252
come into the loving arms of forge world my son
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>>53249252
>>53249270

fuck I forgot the image
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>>53249252
Victoria miniatures.

Fuck GW.
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>50 dollars for 5 nuMarines
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>>53249249
Any grocery store in the USA
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So boss, youz is sayin' that the space marines got them some nobz?
Dat's cunnin' dat is.
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>>53249194
>Or they could update the 1-2 decade old models instead.

Plastic Havocs when?!
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lool he wrote in ork language
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>>53249219
I would both love and hate that. I love the models, but hate the price.
>>53249199
Right? In Straken's case I assume it's because he's both tough and about half robotic. Yarrick is just manly. Dat Eternal Warrior.
>>53249252
I'm a big fan of the Cadian sculpt, but I would like a new plastic regiment too. I just ordered some Vostroyans to be another Vet squad. My Cadians are the basic infantry, Catachans are Penal Legions counting as Conscripts, Cultists are gangers counting as Conscripts and I also use the Scout bodies and Scion beret heads for carapace shotgun Vets
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>>53249204
>Everything will be primaris sized going forward.
>How are primarines going to fit into a rhino
You just answered your own question retardo. The rhinos will be updated just like the marines were.
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>>53249220
Bourbon or rye rocks
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>>53249305
Make it 75
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>>53249284
What's the point of playing them when they're literally 'another faction but worse'.
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>>53248203

The FAQ you retard
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>>53249146
>Get a bunch of marines and rules for free
>Get fucked by Duncan for free too

What was the bad part of this?
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>>53249328
>2 wounds
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>>53249285
I just wish I wasn't poor. How are the Hostile Environment cadians? I painted up some of the Kriegers that a buddy of mine gave me trying to get back into the hobby years ago, but my painting skills are dogshit and I didn't do them justice.

>>53249304
As much as I'd love to run an army of Drookian Fen Guard, my nearest GW is Warhammer World (About two streets away), and I'd rather be able to play there then some other place.
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>>53249260
Not really? The kit still looks fine. Metal skeletons have a hard time looking out of date.
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>>53248285

Never seen MK. IV? Get the fuck out
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>>53249328
So they are the new bullshit OP marine like cuntodes.

>And They Shall Know No Fear
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>>53249342
Oh so you are an actual retard. Sorry for your loss.
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>>53249329
Friendly reminder yarrik is geriatric as fuck and can go toe to toe against the most powerful warboss in the galaxy
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>>53249328
>That means you can add Primaris Space Marines to your Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Iron Hands, Rainbow Warriors

>RAINBOW WARRIORS

wtf I love nu-GW now
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>>53249373
The point is that if a kit is old as fuck. It need an update before more marine shit is made.
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>>53249328
hmm, no options for special weapons definitely sets them apart from regular marines. This actually gives me a little hope that regular marines won't be squatted as soon as I thought.
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>>53249328
It almost seems like they're shittier Thousand Sons, actually
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>>53249397
How the fuck are they bullshit op?
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>>53249328
>Rainbow Warriors

Okay GW I'll give you that one.
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>>53249328
Tfw grenade launchers will be cheaper anti armour for my guardsmen compared to melta
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>>53249330
I wish they would give us a list of everything getting scaled up, i aint buying shit till they do
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>>53249328
Post the rubric data sheet for comparison. Werent they also worth 6 'Im only 7 and cant count properly' points?
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>>53249328
>Chapter Keyword

wot if...

>Klan
>Warband
>Hive Fleet
>Doctrine
>Sept
>KLAN

KLAN RULES KONFIRMED ORKZ IS BACK
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>>53249397
custodes weren't op and this marine unit seems even less op, since they can't even get special or heavy weapons.
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>>53248344
The mechanicus shits out troops that can eat these guys for breakfast by the million. Their gun is no better than the worst skitarii weapons, their armour is no better than enginseers get, they aren't even as big or tough as a combat servitor. The only reason they are significant is that they gave them to the imperium to do imperium stuff instead of only dealing with the things the mechanicus thinks are important (i.e: murdering tech-heretics and hunting for STCs).
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>>53249397
>bullshit OP marines
They're marine Fire Warriors senpai
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>>53249420
>No special weapons
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>>53249457
I thought they were 8
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>cant take heavy weapons after they got buffed
>cant take assault weapons after assault phase reworked
>cost much more than normal marines
I'm pretty sure the new guys are cucked
>>
So how do nu-marines fit into the globe spanning Jewish conspiracy?
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>>53249406
And lose, then be left alive so they can fight again another day. Like a cartoon.
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>>53249457
They were 6 points for every five, with 2 extra for the sorcerer. That puts them and the new marines in the ballpark of 16-20 points per dude.

Depend a how much the extra wound helps them, but honestly these guys don't seem that great in comparison
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>>53249493
It means you need to enjoy getting cucked
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>>53249480
oh shit, I stand corrected. Rip manlet marines.
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>>53249480
It's going to be like 30k where the tactical squads only have bolters and you have dedicated special weapon squads
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>>53249328
>No special or heavy weapons
>Armies of them will be lethal.
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>>53249480
Noice. Where is that from? The plasmas are looking good.
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>>53249480
>every squad member has to take the same weapon
>entire squads of plasma/melta
>Bobby G: getting rid of support squads was a mistake
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>>53249160
Agree. It's a guaranteed controversial move, but this was the most tactful way to get it done.
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>>53249457
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>>53249480
>Zero results on google search
Is GW leaking their own shit on 4chan again?
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>>53249461
>>53249480
Obviously we will be getting Special Weapons squads ala Imperial Guard.
So every single marine in the squad will have one of those retarded-ass plasma guns. Jesus Christ they look stupid.
>>
primaris marines are armed like legionnaires
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Are you looking forward to 8th then, /tg/?
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>>53249146
I don't play 40k but I'll take a hot dicking.
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>>53249543
I'm very cautiously optimistic.
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>>53249406
>Friendly reminder yarrik is geriatric as fuck and can go toe to toe against the most powerful warboss in the galaxy
On top of that, dude fought his way out of a squig pit with one hand and one eye, over a period of three days.

I'm pretty sure Emps isn't the only god backing Yarrick at this point. Gork n' Mork seem to like him as well.

Guilliman can fuck off. Put Yarrick in charge if you want shit to get done.
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>>53249536
>>53249525

Now fight.
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>>53249247
They would've just wrote Rapid Fire 2 in the sneak peak if that was the case
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>>53249485
Yeah, I was thinking a squad with a heavy bolter would be good for the longer range and matching AP, but these guys don't feel like they have anything.

They seem more like plus-sized scouts that just fell into their armoe and don't know how to do a lot yet. They're like Ogryn marines.
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>>53248533
Pretty sure they will get T 5 and 2+. Or maybe 2 wounds and 2+.

The new armour is meant to be better than any previous mark of power armour, so it's probably artificer armour equivalent.

They make a big deal about how the new guys are bigger and stronger than the old marines, so they almost certainly have a better statline.
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>>53249532
Interesting. Rubrics are probably more expensive but betterish maybe.
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>>53249576
They're T4 3+ 2W
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>>53249576
Nope. 2 wounds. That's it
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>>53249576
you underestimate how fucking good artificer armor is, also you're wrong
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>>53249576
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>>53249328
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>>53249462
Preach it, tech-brother. Our equivalent to a regular Heavy Weapons Team is that, but with an extra point of Toughness and a double-tapping Arc Rifle with more range or a D3 Wound Multimelta. Admech is probably the strongest Imperium faction, just because they have proper scale to their armies as well as insane tech.
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>>53249543
Everything I do like is countered by the things I don't like.

Tanks are going to be far too easy to kill, but the twin link change makes taurox primes baby punishers. No characters in squads is not going to do ym comissars any favours, but my troops actually get an armour save.

I'm still undecided.
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>>53249576
>>53249328
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>>53249578
Rubrics also have the Sorcerer to do warp bullshit
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>>53249480
That is some slick plasma gun, tau BTFO, astartes have best dakka in Galaxy,
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>>53249614
>Tanks are going to be far too easy to kill
as opposed to getting one-shot by ap1 weapons in 7th? cry more
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>spesh muhreens get new fucking spesh muhreens.
>eldar won't even get plastic fucking aspect warriors.

FUCKING GW! WARP SPIDERS ARE OVER 20 FUCKING YEARS OLD SCULPTS! ASPECT WARRIORS ARE ALL RESIN MONOPOSE CRAP! FUCKING UPDATE THEM ALREADY YOU SHITS!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>53249533
>Google Stay Frosty Studios
posted 28 minutes ago.
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>>53249651
>GW Eldar Bias in action
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>>53249651
Hi, I play sisters.

my basic infantry are over 20 years old and only come in metal.

I have no sympathy for you and your fancy resin.
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>>53248755
>the actual look on our faces when the quality of 40k models is approaching modern standards across the board, and 40kids act like the competition is getting BTFO.
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>>53249651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECmjB9df0w
this has to be GW's theme, because no matter what they do, you get these austic cunts having an episode
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>>53248880
Tanks
Orders
Platoons that take up only one troop slot
Veterans that can take three special weapons a squad, as a troop choice

Bunch of other stuff that marines don't have.

More interesting is this
>Can I use these guys alongside my Astra Militarum army?

>Yeah you can. These new Space Marines will be available to use alongside all Imperial armies to fill some battlefield roles your army might normally struggle with.

Which makes me wonder, if Allies is still a thing why bring this up?

Is it likely to be the case that ALL imperial faction units (possibly excluding ad-mech) can be included in a single detachment Ă  la Castellans?
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>That unit composition
>40K is now Horus Heresy 2.0 - Now with added MegaMarines

Subtlety really is alien to GW isn't it
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>>53249651
SoB here my models are from 1997 and metal.

My options are overpriced metal shit with no options, recast or make my own.

Please die in a fire
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>>53249651

GW want to stay true to the "Le Eldar le dying race" narrative so they only made new wraith unit.

Even normal eldar character kit are just lazy as fuck. Look at the Autarch with 0 option kit.
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>>53249578
One problem. Rubrics have 1 wound.
These Numarines have 2.

Yeah, I would say unless the sorcerer is as good as you think he is, Numarines have Rubric beat.

>>53249651
Cry moar.
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>Just bought a squad of space marines and a black templar upgrade kit to start my space marine army
FUCK
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>>53249168
Can T3 tin men play too?
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>>53249350
its funny because the profile isn't even in the FAQ. So try again.
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>>53249557
See the thing is Orks don't spare chapter masters, they don't spare imperial generals, they wouldn't even spare someone who could outfight yarrik, the reason Gazzy didn't kill him is because yarrik is just plain orky, and orky 'umies aren't something you find every day
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>>53249735
Only if you stay T3

And put on a thong or something we don't want to see your groin
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>nuMarines have power level 6
>thousand sons power level 8

1ks confirmed extremely overpriced still
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>>53249730
>buying things when you know new edition and new models are just around the corner
besides, you arent going to have an entire army of primaris marines are you?
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>>53249691
That's what you get with all these fucking factions. Basically everyone but muhrines, spikey muhrines and taus are pissed at how outdated some of their kits or sculpts are.

Even being available in plastic isn't quite enough, I mean look at the IG troop kits.
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>>53249328
>Of course, all this comes at a price.
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>>53249725
Except Rubrics have better AP on their bolters, actual special weapons, an improved armor save against small arms, and an invuln save against heavier weapons.

2 wounds only really helps against lighter guns, and I think 2+ armor is better there
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>>53249730
I mean, numarines are probably more expensive, and GW said they are separate units from current Marines.
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>>53249730
you very likely wont be able to field crusader squads with the numarines and given their higher point cost and lack of assault weapons why would you? Black templar is fine m8
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>>53249725
The sorcerer is shit. Most likely 1 wound per psychic phase.

However its the 5++ and all is dust special rule I was thinking of.
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>there are STILL people in this thread RIGHT NOW who seem to think numarines are gonna replace regular marines
Holy fucking shit how retarded can you be? It almost has to be bait. Right? Right?!
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>>53249730
>Buying ANY 40k shit when a new edition is about to drop
>when GW literally drip feeds new info every day

You brought it on yourself. you never do that. ever.
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>>53249682
>>53249718
You sobfaggots should be just as pissed, if not more pissed than I am.
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>Marine players pissed because their manlets and soon their entire collections will be obsolete sculpts
>Every other player pissed because marines keep getting new stuff and they get nothing
lmao.
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>>53249765
>5 mans that have no upgrades vs 5 mans that have varying loadout of ranged and CC and have psychic powers
gee why is one more then the other?
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>>53249810
Well they can replace manlet marines in the future. But right now they are not a replacement

>2017
>caring about marines
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>>53249774
eventually we will, manlet marines are just an eyesore now
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>>53249532
>8 power
>6 power
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>>53249328
20% more power points than tactical marines, double survivability, double hand-to-hand killyness, 50-100% better shooting against most common targets...
>Most balanced edition

Also, glad to see grenades are still in. Are they just weapons now though?
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>>53249810
They will, just not anytime soon as these neckbeard claimed it to be.
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>>53249810

In 2 years when all they sell are Numarines will you come here, get on your knees and apologize? Fuck off, pinhead.
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>>53249821
I'm too bitter and jaded to be angry anymore.

plus I have an entire army of 3rd party minis now.
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>>53249798
>Most likely 1 wound per psychic phase.

Won't even be that, when they add the 'Rule of One' from AOS into Points Play. Enjoy paying exorbitant amounts of points for the privilege of getting to try and cast Smite one (1) time per turn across the entirety of your Psychic-heavy army.
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>>53249810
Well, lets see. Nu-marines? Check? Nu-marine dreadnought? Check? More Nu-marine stuff sponsored by Gulliman Industries? Check.

You are delusional if you think this isn't anything but a total range rehaul.
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>>53249328
>atsknf is still a thing
>SM ignore battle shock

Fuck this game
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>being so insecure you physically tremble at the thought of your army (which you've invested countless hours of painting/modeling/playing) being slightly smaller than the new optional toys
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>>53249844
>in 2 years
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>>53249868
Also vehices
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>>53249821
We have been shit on so much that we are basically abused housewives.

Oh my husband bought a new dress for his friend how good of him.
He is fucking her in our room? And he is telling me to watch. How considered.

Celestine was basically a pity fuck, since the cunt ruleswise prevents SoB from using their AoF
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>>53249869
>waagh the most iconic thing about space marines is still a thing
whats next, do you not want eldar to have crazy psychi powers, or tau to not have mechs anymore?
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>ITS JUST A KITBASH
Literally LMAOing at you retards
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>>53249328
Looks like numarines mirror 30k legions. Squad with bolters, squad with heavy weapons, squad with melee, with special etc.
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>>53249895
>tfw new rhinos and predators come out and actually look like modern tanks instead of the boxes with treads we have now.
The salt will reach it's maximum.
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>>53249838
>double survivability
just to small arms fire. they die basically just as fast to any real weapon.
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>>53249365
ehhh hostile enviroment cadians are nice and you don't notice the melon heads as much but since they're upgrade kits they suffer from the same proportions as normal cadians
meanwhile solar auxilia , kriegers and elysians are spot on great minis
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>>53249888
No amount of confidence makes up for size
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>>53249526
>Bobby G writes the Codex to remove Legion Marines
>Works with Cawl to make SuperMarines that are organized after Legion Marines

Worst Primarch.
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>>53249751
>the reason Gazzy didn't kill him is because yarrik is just plain orky, and orky 'umies aren't something you find every day
I'm sorry, but when an old, unenhanced human is able to kill an Ork Warboss's arm after losing his own, SURVIVE HIS WOUNDS, and then become the thing that strikes fear into the hearts of the most violent races in the galaxy, that pretty much surpasses anything Guilliman or any Space Marine will ever do by comparison.

Simply put: Yarrick and IG heroes of the Imperium > Space Marines and their primarch.

And I'm saying that as an Ork guy.
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>>53249651
>On fb
>"It means that I'm still waiting for an update to all the finecast miniatures in the Eldar range whilst marine collectors get yet another variation on a tactical marine."
>GW: You guys just got a God.

Eldar players BTFO.
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>>53249951
All the metal guard models, Steel Legion, Vostroyan, Valhallans, Mordian, etc have very good proportions and look very nice.
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>>53249939
>Marine Player : Oh no! Our army are getting new kits every fucking year, fucking GW reeeeeeee.
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>>53249686
who the fuck this
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>>53249926
>you retards
i actually think just one or two faggots believed the leak to be a conversion
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>>53249869
They won't ignore it, just take less losses.
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>>53249939
that would be terrible and in no way fit in with the 40k universe. i wouldnt even play against someone who used a real looking tank, even if it was a proxy for a leman russ
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>>53249976
Which fucking NOBODY asked for.
Ynnari were a fucking mistake.
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>>53249964
Wonder what dorn would think if he showed up and saw all this
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>>53250009
I am annoyed.
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>>53249976
Even I that make fun of Eldar thought that was rude. The fuck does have a point.

There are a lot of old as fuck kits, that need more update than another marine kit.
I think we had more Knight head release than some armies have had release in their entire existence
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>>53249999
Unfortunately numarines are going to look like shit in the battlefield with normally scaled factions. They look like almost as tall as a crisis suit or a sentinel walker
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>>53249999
Only way that would work is as a proxy for an Ork Looted Wagon, to be honest.
Nice quads by the way.
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>>53249651
Up
the
fuck
shut
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>>53250025
they are barely taller then a space marine, no where near a walker. stop talking shit you know nothing about
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>>53250006
>nobody
Source?
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>>53250038

cool model that one is though
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>>53248017
Every marine gradually evolves into his pauldrons until he becomes a pauldron himself.
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>>53250025
No they don't. As you can see here >>53249480. They are about as tall as closed paint pot, which makes them about a little over a head taller than normal marines.
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>>53249971
Anyone who says they wouldn't watch a 1980s style action movie about yarrik, possibly a trilogy, is lying
>the question is who would play him?
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>>53249697
The detachments we've seen so far have as their restrictions "All units must have the same faction"
and the new datasheets have several faction keywords, like "Imperium, adeptus astartes, <chapter>"

So presumably, you can have a detachment filled with all the same IMPERIUM faction.
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>>53250038
Think you posted the wrong picture.
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>>53249480

these plasma guns remind me of those conversions people make where they cut the front half of a lasgun or something and stick the coiled part of a plasma gun on to it.
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>>53250038
not even comparable my dude, these are still easily found on ebay, where as other models have never had an update, even if it was just in a starter set
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>>53250040
You'll see what I mean then. They look scaled for a different game.
Also, please learn that then != than.
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>>53249977
definitely better than cadians , they're still a bit cartoonish and that's coming from someone who plays valhallans but it just fits a lot better than the cadians
i think the metal cadians and catachans look a lot better than their plastic variants
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>>53250052
Are they taller than Custodes ? If they don't then shit will looks fine with the marinlets
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>>53249735
Of course. I forgot about our boys in tin.
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>>53250025
>Unfortunately numarines are going to look like shit in the battlefield with normally scaled factions
>tfw GW starts releasing new models for Orks, they're just as big if not bigger than NuMarines
>Octarius War is used to justify this
>Ork players can mix older models with newer models and it doesn't look awkward
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>>53249810
They're going to replace Marines.
It won't happen all at once, but don't bet on any classic marine releases from here on out.
It'll be Primaris Marines fulling more and more roles that classic marines held
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>>53250070
Those are still plastic.
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>>53250070
Orks players get what they deserve
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>>53250091
dont think they're taller than custodes
a little shorter or about as tall
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>>53249976
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>>53249976
>"Hey, why are you releasing another range of Space Marines when all of our most iconic units are stuck with ancient sculpts in a horrible material?"
>"We just gave you a giant overpriced centerpiece model that no-one asked for, fuck off."
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>>53250084
i dont follow your reasoning, lorewise they are supposed to be larger, so their models are larger, whats the problem? thats like saying space marines shouldnt be in the game because they are bigger then humans and look to big next to IG
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>>53250070
DON'T TALK SHIT 'BOUT MUH WARBUGGIES
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>>53250108
Oh well, then there is nothing to worry about.
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>>53250072
Primaris Plasmagun
>30", S8, AP-3, Damage D3, Rapid Fire 1

You know they're going to get a Primaris Weapon of all the core special weapons that are flat out better

>They're also probably going to be getting Volkite
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>>53250096

>they stand upright

We orruks now

I was going to say it wouldn't make sense for orks from the Octarius War to be fighting all over the galaxy, they might just say all the new fighting is making orks stronger and bigger
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>>53250041
Point to where people asked for Mary Sue what's her face, some fag in ancient armor, and a tranny pseudo Avatar, instead of just getting UPDATED FUCKING ASPECT WARRIOR SAND PHOENIX LORDS. I never wanted some new, super good units, I just wanted updated fucking aspect warrior kits.
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>>53250096
Primarus Orks, found after unlocking the secrets to the Ork homeworld.
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>>53250070
Remember when ork players got new models for their own specialty game? If you do you're probably old as fuck because that was in like 2nd edition
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Nu marine dreadnoughts will be knight titan sized
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>>53250122
But boss, ya do have ta admit da buggies need a bit o' an upgrade...
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>>53250072
I have no idea what you're talking about anon
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>>53250150
I'll cut off ya hed nob
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>>53250149
If anyone has the picture of the super custodes dreadnaught. THAT will be the NuMarine Dread
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>>53250143
Primorks, they were in War if the Beast.
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>>53250171
Why is your tv the best spot for pictures?
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>>53250150
Nah, ya git, dey bootiful
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>>53250188
I don't own a table
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>>53249480
Can you people not read the article? They have no heavy weapons and no assault weapons. Plasma guns are rapid fire, which is neither assault nor heavy.
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>>53250171
that shit taste
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>>53250096
GW did say they haven't forgotten the greenskins in a fb comment.
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>>53250203
There is LITERALLY a table in the picture.
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>>53250175
No more stubby feet, midget dreadnoughts from now on boys. We puberty now.
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>>53250188
Because my table is currently filled with WiP guardsmen and my CRT for melee is right next to me
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>more space marines bollocks
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>>53250235
In Australia?
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>>53250213
Just wait for the dev squad then

>>53250228
That one is the stand for my cat's food
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>>53250235
What's it like in Australia this time of year?
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>>53250223
Literally the first conversion I ever attempted from a year and a half ago
>still not fully painted
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>>53250136
>I was going to say it wouldn't make sense for orks from the Octarius War to be fighting all over the galaxy, they might just say all the new fighting is making orks stronger and bigger
>implying GW won't come out and say the Octarius war went completely in favor of the Orks after Great Rift broke out, meaning Ghazzy an' his Great WAAAGH can now rage around the galaxy all they like

Given how GW treats the 'nids these days, this scenario isn't too far-fetched (sorry 'nid players).

>>53250173
>>53250190
Wot? Ya gitz sayin' da buggies couldn't use more dakka den dey got now?
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>>53250235
must have taken forever to magnetize their bases.
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>>53250258
I'm not talking about the outcome or the quality -
The idea is shit
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>>53250235
Australian posting galor
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>>53250264
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>>53250111
Yeah, fucking out of touch as fuck.
We already had Khaine, we didn't fucking need Yncarne or whatever that tranny deamon is called.
All we fucking needed were just updated aspect warrior kits with the fucking gear they can use ruleswise (shit like Warp Spider Exarch's Spinneret riffles etc) and we would have been set. But no, fuck no. GW can't even update 20 year old sculpts into plastic. That would cut back resources from MAKING MORE FUCKING MARINES.
Fucking GW.
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>>53250252
>>53250249
Never fucked up taking a picture that badly
We have to put magnets on the bottom of our bases and play on metal tables otherwise our models fall off and fly into the sun
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>>53249330
Unfortunately the only retard here is the one that can't recognize a rhetorical question.
>>
So they made Space Marine Nobz, then?
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>>53250227
>We haven't forgotten about orks
>We just don't care about them
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>>53250259
They need more dakka. So far they're just dingy cars. Should strap grotzookas and rams on an entire squad
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>>53250064
Yeah that's what I was thinking , So I assume there'll be bonuses or special detachments for things like all with <Adeptus Astartes> or all <Deathwing> to make up for the unit restrictions

Probably something like,
> if all units in this detachment have the <Adeptus Astartes> faction you gain an additional Command point
> if all units in this detachment have the <Deathwing> faction you can [do something with deep strike/hurt chaos space marines more]
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>>53250270
Your oh so valued opinion has been noted anon
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>>53248886
Because I meant to type Xenos, I now have a mental image of a massive ork warboss who's a bit self-conscious that he's named Denis, so he tried to cover his shame by being the killiest.
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GET YOUR DELICIOUS BTFO, FRESH HOT OUT THE OVEN!
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>>53250346
It is shit though.
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>>53250298
YOU.

IZ LIKE YOU.

SUMBODY GET DIS SMARTBOY A BATTLEWAGON!
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>>53247868
>>53247958
good 4 u lad. feel proud?
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>>53250353
Eldar players dominated all of 7th edition with the most broken army in the game and they're still butt blasted
I can't wait for all the Eldar players to quit when they realize they actually have to use tactics and strategy to win games, the hobby will be better without them
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>>53250353
To be fair SM just got a Demi God and whole new army.
Still kek though.
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>>53250293
>GW need some kind of "narrative campaign-story" to push out new kit.

>The Yncarne and Ynnari exist because they need some Bullshit excuse to revived Bobby.

Only hope for Eldar is that slim Exodilte release along with some lame ass story-campaign and hopefully they come with a new Ranger Kit.
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>>53250353
How did GW BTFO anybody? They flat out evaded the point and basically said "lol, you got an expensive as fuck centerpiece model nobody asked for, that makes your point irrelevant!"

Why the fuck shouldn't Eldar players desire plastic fucking aspect warriors?
Warp Spiders for one are over 20 fucking years old monopose resin crap.
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>>53250353
A god that no one asked.

GW obsesion with center piece model that are one buy only is going to bite them in the ass
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>>53250369
Let's see your first kitbashed model anon
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>>53250403
Resin models
Look at this privilege knife ear cunt.

Some of us still have metal models sold to us
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>>53250398
Here's a though:
Maybe the eldar players who are fucking pissed off don't fucking care about how good or bad their army is, maybe they fucking want to have updates on models that at this point, are older than big part of the fucking fanbase?

Piss off cunt, the faggots who just spam jetbikes and wraithknights never cared about aspect warriors anyways.
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>>53250369
K
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>>53250432
Yeah, and you should be fucking pissed off too.
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>>53250412
Don't worry, they will be subsidizing the cost with all the primarines you will be buying.
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>>53250434
Don't forget wraithguard
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>>53250434
>implying there are people who play Eldar who aren't WAAC-fags
#notAllEldar
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>>53250432
Metal models are way better than Finecast though.
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>>53250432
...Okay, that's a third sisters player in this one thread.

How many more of us are out there? Should we form a support group?
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>>53250467
>implying that there are people who play space marines that aren't braindead manchildren.

Look, I can shitpost too!
Why on fucking earth are people actually defending GW here?
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>>53250418
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>>53250353
>Evades the point, insults the customer
>"BTFO!"

GW apologists are the fucking worst.
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>>53250472
>>53250448
>>53250447
I can't be mad or happy.

I'm to old and jaded.
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Do primaris dreads seem like a stupid idea to anyone else?

If the marine inside is just a crippled head and torso, who cares if he's primaris or not? Surely you could just make better dreads and put actual experienced veterans in them instead of some dumb fuck who managed to get his legs blown off a week after he was deployed?
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Looks like the next faction focus is us Commoragh boys

Pray for mandrakes to be good and give back our HQ's
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>>53250503
Death Company have had dreads forever, makes the same amount of sense
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>>53250480
It is a cool army and concept.

We just want a basic plastic kit for our troops. We can live with metal everything else.

We are the 1% the rich enough guys to play a full metal or third party army
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>>53250503
Of course it's dumb, but they do have new models to introduce.
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>>53250480
I think the numbers are just weirdly high on /tg/

Personally I got sick of waiting for real plastic a and decided to convert some from Sisters of Silence
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>>53250491
Wow, that's pretty shit anon
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>>53250538
Better than yours.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-tau-empire/
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>>53250538
If I saw that on the tabletop facing me I would probably laugh. It's the good kind of bad though.
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>>53250491
Reminds me of a sperglord who came to my FLGS once, and got pissed when he read about himself in a 'That Guy' thread. Guy wanted his Chaos Lord to have tank tread legs.
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>>53250503
The better question is how did they end up making dreadnaughts already when the primaris marines haven't even really seen combat.
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>>53250533
Most people that want SoB are put off by the price and metal.

There is a market but 20 years old model are a hard sale
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-tau-empire/

FACTION FOCUS TAU EMPIRE

Chaos-Imperius-Xenos BTFO
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>>53250529
>implying I'm rich
>implying I'm not poor and I just eat gravels for months when I decide to upgrade my Sisters army
>>53250503
Yeah it's kinda silly, the idea of a dreadnought was to preserve the life of someone worthy of it beyond death and here we have guys straight out of a incubation pod getting cut up and put into Dreadnoughts just because
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>>53250480
>How many more of us are out there? Should we form a support group?
I'm waiting for a plastic troop kit to jump on that sinking ship. I bough the first gathering storm Triumvirat and the finecast canoness just to show GW they were onto something.
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>>53250554
Not even that anon, I'm just milking your autistic attempts at bullying
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>>53250300
>We just don't care about them
>The Beast Arises series just came out in 2015-2016, and is the 2nd largest novel series after the Horus Heresy novels
>GW doesn't care about them
Riiiiight.

>>53250491
Dat's a roight proppa' Warboss dat iz. Good job anon!

>>53250490
>Why on fucking earth are people actually defending GW here?
Lemme let ya in on a lil sekret panzee:
Dey ain't defendin' GW, dey iz mockin' ya.
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>>53250503
My new headcanon is that these vat-bien marines are technically clones, and thus despite being physically superior, they have terrible luck and lack the experience of standard marines.

You deploy them onto the battlefield expecting skilled veterans, then they handle themselves like greenhorn scouts that keep stepping on guardsmen because they don't have a feel for their size and strength.
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>>53250566
loving those pulse rifles
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>>53249460
T'au Faction Focus has <Sept> on the sheet.

ORK KLANZ ARK BACK BOYZ
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>>53250583
Drukhari

What did they mean with this?
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>>53250096
>octarius was won by the orks
>they get huge because of it
>tyranids get shit on and forgotten
;_;
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>>53250566
This just hammers home how badly CSM players got shafted in our faction focus.
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>>53250614
Nice bait
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>>53250593
Not even bullying, just agreeing it doesn't look that good. Dude should try again, might look better.

Mine's not that good either. Had no idea what I was doing when I made that.

Might have been rude, but it's the nature of this place, isn't it?
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>>53250566
>markerlights allow you to reroll to hits of 1
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>>53250566
>BS 3+
Did they just say they were nerfing Tau, then give them a BS bump, keep supporting fire and remove the ability to even try to lock them in combat on Drones and Stormsurges, AKA about half of the units people currently field?
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>>53250583
Hooray, even more reasons people are about to bitch about my Tau army.
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>>53250566
>Drukhari
fuck this
burn GW to the ground
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>>53250674
Shit is shit no matter where it comes from
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>>53250596
I don't hate them and I think their bolters look pretty cool. I just wish they come with transfers other than Ultramarines.
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>>53250693
True, true.
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>>53250692
Da fuck is a Drukhari anyway?
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>>53250684
Read more carefully, that's the bonus the Stormsurge gets for standing still
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>>53249730
>implying Black Templars will agree to using them

I bet my ass they'll be one of the "fuck that heretical bullshit" chapters and get a "Can't use Primaris Marines" addition to their "Can't use Librarians" rule.

Without getting any compensation or improved chapter tactics.
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>>53250712
DEldar most likely
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>>53250614
On the one hand, I like the idea of pairing my sniper drones with a Fireblade or Stealth team

On the other hand, what the fuck is my marksman supposed to do now?
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>>53250583
>you'll see a lot different units than you do now
>mentioning the riptidewing specifically
>calling changes more "reasonable"
The entire article is passive aggressively hinting tau is getting struck by the nerf bat, I think GW considers T'au the exemplar of what broken armies look like, which is why they mention them whenever using examples for how the game is going to be more balanced
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>>53250583
>Oh, and did I forget to mention they have the Fly keyword? This allows them to Fall Back from combat and still shoot at full effect.

So Tau can choose to walk out of melee AND still shoot with no penalty...

Cool

>Glad to see Autocannons appear to be D3 Damage and AP-1 and pulse weapons are AP0
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>>53250684
The +1 to hit is only because the Stormsurge has its anchors
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Are you guys ready to play the new 8th edition Warhammer 40k : MOBA?
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>>53250684
That's for the Stormsurge, using anchors. It gets a +1 to BS.
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>>53250679
>still powerful
>not gamebreaking
T'au butthurt incoming
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>>53250751
>Big E is Roshan
my body is ready
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>>53250751
how would you even play a moba on the tabletop
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>>53250745
What's the sauce on those autocannon stats?
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>>53250743
As a Tau player, I didn't read that as many nerfs, which worries me. Unlimited over watch? Battlesuits falling back for free? Triple gun crisis suits?

I'm very concerned that they're gonna fuck things up here and not actually fix things
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>>53250720
Do Black Templars actually have a rule stating they can't take Librarians? I forget.

Also I doubt they will enforce the "we're not taking those spawns of satan in our army" fluff by rules.
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>>53250761
Just means that tau are still banned from your LGS.
Gotta play at home.
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>>53250794
In 7e they do. Forbidden from Librarians, but hey, at least we get Crusader.
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>>53250751
>7th wasn't already herohammer
>that picture
Bad dog
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>>53250794
In their chapter tactics and their fluff. They hate everything that's not human and witches are bad.
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>>53250781
>My preference is dual missile pods for that lovely AP-1 and D3 damage per shot!

Tau article
Granted it's Missile Pods, but they currently have the exact same statline as an Autocannon, so I feel it's a safe assumption.
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>>53249462
>>53249610
t. admech circle jerk
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>>53250819
I know their fluff.
Somewhat at least I think, I was just wondering if it was enforced in the rules.
Which I think it's good that it is.
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>>53250794
Yeah, they have no Librarians in their chapter and don't accept any fluff-wise and have a rule forbidding them to field Librarians (which has been opened up to at least allow allied Psykers like 2 editions ago).

Considering their hate for any mutants and that they consider the Emperor holy and his actions as pretty much absolute truth, they'd fall right into the "see Primaris Marines as tinkering with the Emperor's shit" category and might consider them heretical mutants.
Ironically, they are probably the chapter that suffered the biggest losses during Gathering Storm and, according to GW, those chapters are the ones that will get Primaris supplied to them first.
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>>53250824
Well, currently missile pods have assault. Hopefully autocannons will be a bit better in 8e or missile pods are now heavy.
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>>53250780
3 v 3. Each player gets a Hero unit and a small point pool to spend on upgrades and a unit or 2. Auto spawning enemies down 3 lanes of the table every turn. Random npc camps on the table that you can kill for rewards.
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>>53250661
Don't worry anon. Rumor is Leviathan's about go now 'OMNOMNOMNOM' on Baal, so you're not going to be forgotten anytime soon...

If the rumors are true anyway.

>>53250819
>They hate everything that's not human and witches are bad.
They straight-up hate anything doesn't look like a normie human. There's literally a bit in Beast Arises where a couple Templars gun down a bunch of abhuman Ork prisoners because they didn't look human enough.
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>>53250794
>>53250819
Nufluff says they have no problem with Imperial Librarians and psykers, but they mysteriously cannot make their own, and is likely a fault of their geneseed.
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>>53250868
Source?
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>>53250853
Feel like that would take hours
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Will all the established Space Marine characters remain manlets?
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Riptides are a common SITE
gw pls
Do you hire pajeet three-year-olds to write your stuff?
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>read latest teaser
>what the fuck is a drukhari, new xenos race?
>google
>it's just deldar with a spergier name
okay.jpg
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>>53250887
yes because they weren't made with this new/old process.
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>>53250878
7e codex, iirc
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>>53250887
Yes
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>>53250887
Unless they get NuOrgans
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>>53250830
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>>53250883
yeah it would.
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>>53250851
Or most "big" things / things that already were relentless (or slow and purposeful) will (still) ignore the Heavy Penalty

>Rubrics which ignored Heavy still does
>Stormsurge which ignored Heavy still does

Small sample, but so far currently trending.
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How many NuMarines are there and do they make ManletMarines redundant?
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No flat Psyker polar bear for T'au

Why live?
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>>53250566
TYRANID FACTION FOCUS WHEN?
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>>53250887
inb4 gene replacement therapy
i.e. get fucked by an alpha marine
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I like how this thread got bigger than the old one, and the old one hasn't even died yet.
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>>53250898
it seriously just reminds me of Uruk-hai
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>>53250908
>>53250913
So if NuMarines become the new default all the special characters are getting squatted?
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>>53248467
>>53248485
GW said the primarines would cost more and therefore the nu-bolters will be more expensive.
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>>53250945
my bet is everything that moved and shot heavy weapons before will be able to. if you couldn't before you now shoot at -1 bs. that's a relative improvement for the models that were previously not relentless.
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>>53250967
did you even read the fucking FAQ
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>>53250887
Old chapters will probably switch over to NuCreations so they'll all be NuMarines eventually

>NuWolves will be too big to ride Thunderwolves
>NuWolves have Rowboat's superior genes than Leman Russ so no more Wulfen
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>>53250947
Enough to make entire chapters worth but they're just used to help fill in the death gap.
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>>53250989
Just wait for NuThunderwolves
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>>53250953
Eventually, anon.
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>>53251002
Not soon enough.
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>>53250947
Enough to fill in almost dead chapters and to create some new ones to boot.
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>>53250978
Kinda what it's looking like. My only hope is Regular Bikers (Not Attack Bikes) lose it

>Stupid how they fire full grav despite having to steer, while the Attack Bike is two dudes, one drives and the other solely focuses on shooting.
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>>53251013
Fine, never. They are on the squat list. Better?
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>>53250999
>Wolves the size of Rhino APCs
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>>53250830
Yep. And all the other factions get their circlejerks all the damned time, so deal.
We have the best guns and the best industrial base of the Imperium and near-perfect battlefield coordination, and so far we haven't had to win anything by writer fiat. And we have the only good GS character. Best faction.
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Are numarines the same size are regular marines in lore? Or are they actually taller?
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Here's your next faction focus.

I play DE and kind of like the Aeldari/Drukhari thing.
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>mfw tau got squatted and replaced with T'au
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>NuMarines are spread through majority of chapters
>9e comes around
>200 years have passed
>flaw in geneseed/celular structure appears
>NuMarines die in troves
>Imperium suddenly incredibly weakened
>Chapters that refused them go "I TOLD YOU SO" and need to save the day

Who will be their saviors, anons?
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So, the dude who aims the sniper drones isn't part of their unit now? Does he become a character or something?

Wonder if this is how they handle all units with mixed toughness / saves / type now? So artillery might be two units, one for the gun and one for the crew...
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>>53251032
You're laughing now, but wait for them to come out. You know how fascinated GW is with centerpieces atm.
>>53251036
taller
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>>53249493
>nu-marines represent black males
>their 2 wounds and larger guns are meant to represent the black man's superior BBC and seed
>they're taller, emphasizing the black man's height over short inferior beta white males
>their replacement of the white marinelet represents cuckolding, why take a shorty when you can field his taller, stronger, cooler counterpart?
(((GW))) strike again!
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So, what are the odds of Wulfen being able to attack twice when they charge and the opponent must pick up any unit charged and it remove it from the battlefield after all attacks are resolved.

That way the SW players gets to roll his dice and his opponent can only watch.

Fun for everyone!
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>>53251029
This is exactly what I expect.
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Nu Titans when?
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>>53250989

>Though they are a step removed from their brothers, the Primaris Space Marines still bear the gene-seed of their Primarchs, and some dissenting voices worry how this new type of warrior will react with the known genetic quirks and flaws of some of the more unusual Chapters…
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>>53251077
>tfw new titans are released and some fag with the old, boxy, manlet titans who spent days working on it gets BTFO
can't wait
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>>53251042
T'au has alwaya been the name of their homeworld. Compared to other factions we got off easy with our rename. It's barely different and it was already in the lore
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>>53249146

If he wears a paper bag with a smiley over his ugly brit face, then yes.
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>>53251067
What's with people still thinking after 2 editions that SW are anything but middle tier and that, just like DEldar, the only way for them to work in tournaments is by allying with much stronger codices like DA and Vanilla SM
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>>53250787
Same here. /Please/ give us some moderate nerfs. I'd love to not be immediately scum just because GW broke our army.
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>>53251069
I wouldn't worry. My bet is their faction focus will talk about how the big bugs will get scarier and the little bugs will be more points efficient but require big bug support.
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>>53251077
I want Nu Admech
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>>53251120
People who don't actually play the game
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>>53251086
I can hardly wait, although I wonder what Primarchs like Russ would have to say about this.
>>53251111
Boxy titans are the only true titans
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>>53251086
So Primaris Thunderwolves and Primaris Wulfen...
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>>53251123
just like how the manlets marines will rely on the numarine support. How fitting.
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>>53251154
Canis Wolfborn's one is already bigger then the other one
It just means that they'll need to hunt bigger wolves
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>>53249252
What has me worried about any new infantry sculpts are the newest IG infantry, the Tempestus Scions, still have the same dumb proportions as regular Cadians do. Sure, the bulkier armor make those proportions less goofy looking, but that doesn't give me much faith for new IG sculpts.
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>>53251163
Hats GW's policy. Army failing? Give them bigger people, guns, vehicles, or robots.
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>>53251077
Nu Knights
so just the Forgeworld knights I guess
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>>53251121
I am glad to see that markerlights seem toned down. If the only options are rerol ling 1s and firing seeker missilea, that certainly means the current methods of markerlight spam are less important. You don't need a drone controller commander with 12 BS 5 marker drones in order to get 10 hits on a unit. A pathfinder team landing 2 or 3 will give you the same handful of rerolls for other units.
>>
How do you feel, /tg/, now that there will be different rules for the various Ork Klans, Eldar Archworld and IG Regiments?
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How does new AP system works again ? I dont quite get it.
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>>53251205
It's one way to sell models.
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>>53251265
One thumb up. Two if they're actually balanced.
>>53251266
Read it again, slowly and carefully. If you still can't get it this game might not be for you.
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>>53251069
Adding insult to injury, if they do land on the squat list, GW might go: >"Remember that 'tendril of Leviathan that Kryptmann redirected toward the angry green space mushrooms and is getting its shit pushed in right now in the Octarius War?"
>"Turns out that was actually the main Tyranid Fleet. And it was just destroyed by Ghazghkull and his Great Waaagh!
>"Sorry 'nid players, but all you have left is splinter fleets!"

Would be on par with the dicking some of the armies in WHFB got when they were unceremoniously squatted.
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>>53251265
Very good. The Traitor marines book really showcases just how awesome you can an army just a handful of different flavorful army wide special rules
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jbragg1984/status/863805362016845824

Something is happening.
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>>53251061
Pretty much the only centerpiece model I'd pay for would be a command leman Russ or a big nagash sized c'tan
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>>53251266
You must be retarded, then.
It's so fucking simple I don't see how you could possibly not get it
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>>53251266
weapons have a save modifier
you substact this modifier from a models base armor save
this is the actual save a model has
so for example a marine (3+ save) is hit by a lascannon (-3 save modifier) meaning the marine has an armor save of 6+ against the shot
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>>53251242
Agreed. I think markerlights are a really interesting mechanic, both in play and as a listbuilding challenge, but the way they were essentially required for optimimum performance was both restrictive and led to the sort of spam you talk about. I wonder if we'll still get ignore cover, now that cover is a to-hit modifier.

Still considered by us getting triple-weapon suits that can torch chargers, then moonwalk out of melee and unload their weapons, on top of Supporting Fire. That seems like a BIT much.
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>>53248749
>takes of helmet
>macho muscle builder grill
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>53251298
Looks like they will be putting the new primarines on display.
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>>53251337
>now that cover is a to-hit modifier.
i thought cover was confirmed to be a +1 to your armor save
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>>53251337
Really hyped by the possibility of different Sept rules.
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>>53251337
>I wonder if we'll still get ignore cover, now that cover is a to-hit modifier.
Cover adds +1 to your save.
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>>53251337
I think Tau will have a low wound count for balance.
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>you will never paint this well
;_;
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>>53251265
>now that there will be different rules for the various Ork Klans
Assuming this is the true, I'm mildly worried about how it'll affect the ol' Freeboota Warband I used to run (which is basically a mish-mash of Goffs/Bad Moonz/Blood Axes/Evil Sunz units)
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>>53251359
Hurdur, that's what I meant to say. Yes, that. Would be kinda funky to essentially be using markerlights to impact armor saves.
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>>53251396
So we're moonwalking glass cannons? I suppose I could see that working...
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>>53251337
Yeah, the over watch changes along with that makes me really question the decision to keep both.

I am excited for triple missile macross suit a though.

>>53251359
>>53251376
Its both. You can see on the Sniper drones where there stealth rule is now a hot penalty for distant units, but terrain is a save mod.

If anything, I might expect markerlights to have a mode that costs 2 or 3 that can add -1 AP to a gun, but unless they make it so it doesn't stack with itself that'll just be dumb
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>>53251265
Hoping it means I can go fasta with muh red paint job. Otherwise I don't really care.
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>>53251298
My mind is playing tricks or is that the SoB cabinet.

God fucking damn it kill us already and stop this tease
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>>53251414
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>>53248989
honestly, im ok with the labour party but Corbyn is such as complete and utter sod that I won't even consider them right now.
>>
Hoping that Drone keyword exempts from battleshock now. Was silly having a giant suit run away in terror when its shield drones did its job.
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>>53251450
>Its both
Eh. "Cover" is +1 save.
A lot of dodge-like effects that used to grant cover saves or cover bonuses are becoming to-hit modifiers.
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>>53249844
first they came for the marines... and i said nothing...
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>>53251471
Almost certainly there's gonna be a Speed Freakz one for increased movement speed and possibly deploying things further ahead
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>>53251502
mould lines, too
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>>53251327
Thank you.
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>>53249242
It was real! I knew it cus of the knee armour. Sneaky Geedubz at it again.
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>>53251566
ITT: Retard gets spoon fed, oatmeal everywhere
More news at 11.
>>
Anyone else feel too overwhelmed by all this stuff, to the point where I want to just ignore it until shit is actually released.
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>>53251506
>being anything but disgusted with labour
shiggy
>>
I thought Gullimarines were just a myth.
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>>53250006
Cry more, faggot
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>>53251516
Thought I read Ghostkeels that go on solo missions for so long start to develop bonds with their drones (like Wilson in Cast Away).

Could easily see a pilot freaking out if their best friend died.
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>>53251613
We've seen a leaked one for months, there was a GW video a couple of weeks ago that all but confirmed it, what's wrong with you?
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>>53251597
how is any of it overwhelming
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>>53251597
I find reading a bit about it every day helps. If I found out 8e is basically AoS in space AND oldmarines are officially manlets on the same day, I would probably have found that more overwhelming.
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>>53251592
Spoonfeed seriously make you that assblasted ?
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>>53251644
He believed the people claiming it was a kit bash.
>>53251656
The assblasted one here appears to be you. I understood it as mockery.
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>>53251656
Some shit inhaler not taking 5 minutes to read and learn the simple-as-fuck rules change is pretty irritating, not enough that it bothers me for any lengthy period of time but enough for me to make a reply
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>>53251490
Someone draw a picture of a leather clad SoB edging someone as they dirty talk them about new models, that would symbolize the situation perfectly
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>>53250513
Recently migrated to Commoragh, I can't fucking wait
New Lelith, Drahzar, and Vect models please
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>>53251445
Would certainly fit with Tau's flailing failures when it comes to close combat.

"Sure, I might be weak and easily killable, but that just means I have to kill you before you can get in range!"
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>>53248156
10/10 plan.
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>>53251798
don't you mean T'au
:^)
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>>53251502
Just as well I have shite eyesight, blind weapons and mold lines can't bother me
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>>53251823
T'au = Planet or empire
Tau = Race
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>>53251759
Commoragh got overruned y demons and is now controlled by Mandrake-Heamuncili alliance.

Meanwhile Vect run like a cowardly dog and reform Neo-Commoragh.
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>>53251759
>New Lelith,
Why, she is if fine.
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>>53247984
we already have primaris osykers
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>>53251852
I don't know man, I just don't like it. I'll settle for just a new Vect and Drahzar model then
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>>53251849
not anymore m8
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>>53251644
I hadnt seen the leaked one and i dont remember seeing that video so thats probably the problem.
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What are the odds of the chapters getting reformed back into legions?
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>>53251905
Have you been to the thread in the past 30 days?
if the answer is yes, you should have seen them.
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>>53251929
I dont pay much attention anon i got other stuff to do.
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>>53251506
Why so? I feel like he's the one to call out the Tories on widening inequalities and he thinks about the small people. I don't know luch about UK politica but a man that wants to stop the rich fucking people over can't be that bad.
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>>53251924
>Rowboat admitting that his Codex was a mistake

Never.
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>>53251516
Looks like drones are separate units which can have casualties allocated to them if they are close enough. So the drones can 'die' to morale tests from losing drones, but they can't spread to the tau unit.

Actually a pretty neat system for handling mixed units.

Wonder how it will work for other races? I guess runtherds, datasmiths and so on are now single-model units which grant a bonus to nearby units of the appropriate type. Probably don't use a force-org-chart slot, so you can't fill two troops with ten grots and one ork...
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>>53251924
Practically none.

The imperium is piss terrified of the thought of marines getting too powerfull (politically) and the guy who came with idea of splitting them in the first place is running the show now.
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>>53249964
More like

>GW wants regular tac squads to be relevant
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http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1494872129135.webm
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>>53251956
>let's fuck the rich while we fuck the poor harder
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>>53248296
lol, i get them 50 % off
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>>53251973
That gave me autism
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>>53251966
Huh. I would be okay with this. So no more drone upgrades on units?
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>>53251986
How so? I mean, he wants to cut tuition fees, wants to tax the rich, the sort of stuff the actual left would do. Plus he's actually against the jews. I feel like the media are giving him quite the unfair treatment, being controlled by said riches.
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>>53249146
>homosexual fantasy scenario
So this was just an excuse to proclaim your disgusting fetish to the wolrd?

No I wouldn't, faggot. Kill yourself.
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>>53248483
are you talking about me ?
because i will definitly complain about my lacking skills
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>>53251956
He seems pretty decent to me, yeah. I would be fine with him in power over the bloody Tories, but sadly his party can't stop stabbing their best hope in years in the back for being too left for the left party. Fucking idiots.
All his policies seem decent, apart from the headless Trident missiles thing, and he went back on that after someone explained that removing the bombs from the missiles and keeping all the expensive other shit was a bad plan.

Anyway, politics aside, what would you want for a new superunit for your faction? I know most want LESS centerpieces, and I agree, but something really insane. Personally I would love an Admech Build-your-own-Ordinatus ruleset, with a selection of primary and secondary weapons and stuff like battlements and transport capacity optional. I want to make one like Goliath from the Leviathan books, except actually working, and call down Tunguska Events on motherfuckers with a giant Tesla Coil.
Scratchbuilt, obviously, but selling a generic Minoris chassis to build on would probably make the big bucks.
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>>53252041
nice work getting triggered over a shitpost retard.
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>>53251894
I just want plastic incubi.
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>>53252041
>he's this insecure about a joke
Is homosexuality even really a fetish? I think it's more of a sexual orientation
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>>53249146
i dont even want the other stuff, just fill me up daddy
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>>53252153
By definition it is a sexual orientation.
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>>53252153
idk what it is but seeing homo stuff makes me kinda feel physically ill and dry heave a bit
I don't even mind gay people themselves but things like pic related makes me feel ill
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>>53250583
Why are we not talking about how the tau empire can still shit over close combat with supporting fire still in and flying units (practically all suits) straight up ignoring the only penalty for disengaging from combat?
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Intercessors are 5 models and can't be buffed up to 10? Some tactical squad!
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>>53249146
There is literally no down side to your hypothetical, so yes of course I do.
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Nice job digging up that bait.
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>>53252233
Because Crisis suits could already buy Vectored retrothrusters to do that
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>>53252233
>only downside
>getting hosed down by bolters while you run isn't a downside
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>>53252143
Perturabo.

>>53252222
quads of truth. it's the body's natural response if you were lucky enough not to be brainwashed in childhood.
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>>53252233
*T'au
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>>53252222
Same and same, having a preference and opinion isn't homophobic
At least not yet if the SJWs have anything to say about it
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>>53251506
I'm with you on this, I like Labour, but Corbyn is living in another era.
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>>53252279
>getting hosed down by bolters while you run isn't a downside
that doesn't happen? where are you getting that from ?
>>
from tau focus:
>Oh, and did I forget to mention they have the Fly keyword? This allows them to Fall Back from combat and still shoot at full effect. Brutal!

I fucking hate Tau so much. This whole faction focus just makes them seem just as good.
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>>53251986
>>53252143
>>53252034


Tories
>Sell the Country
Labour
>Invest in the Country


Those are the choices, don't much care which way you go but no point in deluding yourself that there are any others
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>>53252421
The article, where they said the assaulting not gets to shoot the falling back one for free?
>>
New thread someone
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>>53251956
One thing that ticked me off with him is he wants to give the Falklands to the Argies. Over my dead body.
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>>53252275
They're just free now. Like target locks.
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>>53252433
>waaah, they make everything the same level as tau and wont nerf tau waaaah
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>>53252462
I thought so. Again, I'm not very on top of UK politics, but one would think the people would basically vote against the last government in place.
Oh well, at least the UK will have a strong and stable government.
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>>53251972
NuMarines can't take Special weapons in their "Tactical" squad.

While Tacticals can take Heavy / Special. And given the new Multi Damage profiles not having them and only having 5 Boltrifle shots may hurt
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>>53252433
Of course it does, because every faction focus is trying to make the force seem good.

They aren't gonna come out and be like 'lol, tau sucks, you're Ork tier now!'
Instead, why don't you think critically and realize that Tau shooting after falling back from combat means you somehow didn't kill them all in one round of CC, and they can't completely decimate you afterwards thanks to the markerlight nerf?
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>>53250353
And imperials got two fucking triumverate boxes and are getting a new space marine army
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>>53252469
>assaulting
>with bolters
Bolt pistols at best
so completely useless
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>>53252485
Where do they state they will make every faction the same level as Tau? No edition has ever had every single faction truly equal. And compared to the other faction focuses, the Tau seem to be much the same but benefiting from the new rules.
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>>53252485
Tbf out of all the sneak previews Tau looks the strongest.

>Maybe it's because they gave away the most amount of information.
>>
>>53252421
Probably from where GW confirmed this is a thing retard
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>>53252482
Yep. Might cost more to compensate though. Or maybe this new Fly keyword replaces their normal jetpack movement? Who knows.
>>
>>53252233
Mostly because the main melee armies (Orks, 'nids) haven't gotten a faction focus yet (plus, we don't even know how badly the Tau are gonna get the nerf bat in the codex either).
>>
>>53252469
>If you’re in combat at the start of your turn, you can Fall Back by moving away from the enemy. You’ll lose the ability to advance, shoot or charge that turn, and crucially, enemies will be able to shoot at you!
i read this as you can be targeted again, because melee combat doesn't allow for it
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>>53252548
My Chosen have bolters on top of all their assault gear.

Either way, a handful of bolt pistol shots will still be helpful for killing that one crisis suit that survived your charge
>>
So NuMarines are practically another addition to space marines like Veterans and Terminators.
I don't see the downside
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>>53252515
>Strong and Stable
kek'd
>>
>>53252544
"Imperials" isn't a monolithic pile of players who prostrate themselves atop a massive mound of Grav-centurions and are buried in frigid brie, you know? I play Admech, so I got one character who has awesome rules. That's a nice pickup, but I can't do jack with Primarines or any of the other dudes. Fuck off with your "Imperium" players when I couldn't care less about Marines or Guard or whatever.
>>
>>53252623
There is one less reason to bitch about

That seems like a pretty big downside
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>>53249837
>8 power
Initial purchase of psyker, which is currently also a big part of the cost for a basic squad of TS, followed by 6 power per 5 after that.
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>>53252623
They seem pretty pointless to me
Just Space Marines with an extra wound and attack
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>>53252629
Imperials are one giant army and you fucking know it
>>
>>53252462
>Being this deluded and calling others deluded

You're what's killing Labor
>>
>>53252659
I agree that they seem kinda redundant but at least it's something new that opens avenues for variety in the space marine line
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>>53252676
>Labor

fuck off amerifat
>>
>>53252462
REMOVE COMMIES
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>>53252709
>his only response is to ad hom because he knows he's about to get rekt in the election and then Corbin will destroy the party when he refuses to step down
Fine
You're what's killing laböur
>>
>>53252667
Nope, no we are not. I hate the way Space Marines work and how they are presented, I don't particularly want to play normal men in this setting and I like atompunk, so I went Admech. Anything else I ally to my Admech reduces the amount of Canticles I get anyway, and I have nothing much to gain other than perhaps psykers. Eldar and their other codices are far more monolithic than the Imperium now, given the existence of Ynnari and Mech being left out of the Castellans.
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>>53252659
Dont worry Im sure there will be tons of silly AoS rules to make them better.
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>>53252771
Those are joke legacy rules, not actual rules.
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>>53252027
>So no more drone upgrades on units?

Pure speculation, but I would guess some units let you buy a small unit of drones which doesn't count as a FOC choice, but if you want a bunch of them you can take a fast-attack drone unit or something.
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>>53252746
better
and yes hopefully
>>53252744
agreed
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>>53252771
No, they only have ATSKNF, same as regular marines.
>>
>>53252835
What if it works like how we saw Dedicated Transports in the Force Org charts.

Maybe you can buy 1 Drone unit per 1 Infantry or Battlesuit Unit that you take.
>>
> Last update will be just a picture of the Golden Throne empty with no text
> Warhammer 40k: Age of the Emperor confirmed.
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>>53252827
>not actual rules
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Squad of five primaris marines has the same power rating as five rubrics and 20% more than tactical marines.

Does this mean that rubrics and primaris marines will cost the same base and that will be about 20% more than tactical marines (which we know are 13 points)? Or do these power levels account for upgrades (none on primarines, few on rubrics, lots on tacticals)?
>>
>>53247967
>>>53247906
>That was the army that I spent five years spending time and money on, the concept that got me into the hobby in the first place. And now they're throwing it out the window for shits and giggles.

Do you have the same kinda sad whenever they release a new model or troop type?

Seriously, they ain't replacing the marines, at least not till Warhammer 50k or 45k or what have you happens. They're just a new elite troop.
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>>53252930
roughly, yes.

Dont expect an exact conversion from power to points, but each power level represents roughly ~15 points, give or take
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>>53252693
>Variety
Because the army with the largest range by far needs even more variety
>>
>>53248016
>>53248100
Soldiers in 21st century don' wear big-asss armors as a bullet protection. Usually. 40k is fantasy setting with a lot of fantastic tech and metals harder than anything we ever known. That >>53247977
concept actually makes sense, though I doubt GW had that in mind while designing it.
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>>53250494
>you guys did just get a god
wow, what an insult, i mean, he just stated a fact. eldar players literally are the worst, i hope you never get any new aspect warriors
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any ork players here have any experience with kommandos?
starting an ork army and was wondering if they would be fun to use?
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>>53253005
I was reffering to variety in types of stuff,cuz in marines you've got like marines a, marines b etc and then tanks, not much in the way of real variety
I do agree that they already have enough support though
>>
>>53253046
Last I checked they were slugga boyz with infiltrate.
>>
New thread here:
>>53253100
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>>53253046
Next month 8th edition will be released, and with Orks finally having their Klans the Kommandos may receive some bonuses by the Red Axes Klan, so we don't currently have any idea about their effectiveness
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>>53253046
The models are great (and if you don't want to use the GW ones, there are a lot of options for third party and conversions) but they don't really achieve much that can't be done better with buggies, deffkoptas or trukk boyz.

Their only real strength is that infiltrate and stealth can be used to get onto an objective in some ruins or something during deployment and then become near-invulnerable by going to ground and getting 2+ cover saves. Doesn't work if your enemy has anything which ignores cover though, which most forces do.
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>>53253034
they do shit because (in their minds) it looks cool man they didn't hit some fucking new gold standard of military personal defense that no one else has ever done

especially when it comes to a low tech concept like putting trim on your knee pad will block shots
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>>53249146
Sorry Duncan, I can wait
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>>53250780
Poorly
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>>53248880
because a regular human fighting the insane horrors of the galaxy is just awesome.
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>10 weapons
>can engage a different unit with each one
REV UP THOSE BATTLESUITS
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>>53253874
Are you by any chance clinically retarded?
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