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What's an Operator

>>53182165

oh god i've failed horribly.

Actual Old thread: >>53177569

>>53182165

Completely unrelated to the thread, but I hate that boss.

>>53182212
This I guess? http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljsh?Class-Preview-The-Operative

>>53182212

One of the classes that's going to be in Starfinder.

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>>53182165
Stat him

>>53182246
Android with class levels in Bushi Warder.

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>>53182165

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>>53182165
>>53182246

all the designs from that game were aces

>>53182227
>>53182236
So it's a rogue / something-mancer?

What's the Starfinder equivalent of psions and does it scale with mechanical hobbies such as piloting ships, drones or tampering with electronics

>>53182314
It's like a rogue but not shit

Which combat styles are mechanically best for a Str build MoMS?

>>53182314

Its like Rogue ++ from what i've seen.

>SNEAK ATTACKS JUST BY PASSING SKILL CHECKS!!

>>53182246
UNH UNH
AHHH OHHH AH UH
OOOOHH OHHHH

>>53182246
UNH UNH
AHHH OHHH AH UH
OOOOHH OHHHH

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>>53182375
>>53182374
>consecutive posts
>same second
made me think

>>53182374
>>53182375

>Enemy is called The Song
>Has the best theme

Really makes you think.

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>>53182297

>want to make an initiator
>end up with another Bushi/Vigilante Stalker
>I literally cannot stop making these fucking things

I want to like other initiators but none of them scratch my autism the way this thing does. Except maybe Hidden Blade.

How's everyone doing this afternoon?

Having a good day so far?

I have two options for each of my trouser serpent character's gestalt halves:
>Vivisectionist Polymath Alchemist
>Empiricist Conspirator Investigator

The other half of the character is one of the following:
>Serial Killer Vigilante
>Night Terror Focused Hunter Vigilante

Will be using the feat out of Legendary Vigilante either way to get my vigilante abilities to key off Int rather than Cha.

I am having a hard time choosing but at the moment the combos either seem to be:
>Vivisectionist Polymath Alchemist | Serial Killer Vigilante
Or
>Empiricist Conspirator Investigator | Night Terror Focused Hunter Vigilante

Which should I go for?

>>53182212
Its a phrase used to describe someone who "operates", that is someone who perform covert stealth/spec-ops operations and other sneakybreaki stuff. Basically an Operator is someone like Solid Snake or Sam Fisher

>>53182811
Yup, just trying to think of all the Starfinder campaigns we'll get.

Something like Star Adventures with XCOM2 Viper

A reimagining of the Kung Fu show with David Cassidy replaced with an Android

A whole bunch of !Macross and !Gundam spinoffs

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I was going to ask a stupid question about Clone but then read the entry and realised the ingredients would have to be harvested from a living body and that they would resurrect into the new body if they were dead.
Alas.

I'm in danger of making a cute character. Right now, I have naive country gal who loves punching and romance novels. Please dissuade me from continuing this idea.

>>53182867
Make her a Yuan-Ti

gimme the skinny on the Str/Dex split for Trouser Snake

>>53182867

Do not.

>>53182875

Especially do not make a naive country yuan-ti who loves punching and romance novels.

Not allowed.

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>>53182867
>Right now, I have naive country gal who loves punching and romance novels.

Do it, make the naive country girl who loves punching and romance novels!

Know what they say about them country girls!

Is it possible to build a ranger as more of a support character or do they have to be entirely damage-focused to work?

>>53182915
What do you consider to be support?

>>53182961
Buffs, debuffs, battlefield control. Any combination of the three.

>>53182972
That's called a druid, anon.

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>>53182849

Going to be fun, I think.

>>53182989
I don't think druid would fit the character very well, unfortunately.

>>53182991
I disagree.

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Has anyone ever actually posted accurate DPR comparisons between PoW classes and Paizo ones? Google is finding me nothing but kneejerk conjecture from both sides.

>>53183029
big ass

>>53182825
The latter seems more interesting, from a mechanical perspective.

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>>53183029
>PoW
que?

>>53182997
What is even the difference between a druid and a ranger who doesn't focus on weaponry?

Are you thinking you HAVE to play a druid as a nature loving hippie?
You can be a gritty huntsman druid just fine, anon.

>>53183080
The character really has no interest or love for nature at all. Even as a ranger he'd be much more urban than anything.

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>>53183029

>Dat ass

Lotsa people post THICC with blatantly fat chicks, but that's a proper THICC right there.

>>53183029
I think everyone knows that PoW classes can easily obsolete the damage abilities of 1pp classes, but they don't point it out overtly because everyone with enough play experience to realize that has also realized by that point the classes are more fun, and a game is better when everyone plays PoW but is trusted to keep their powerlevel in check than when everyone has to struggle with 1pp martials.

>>53183040

The better to unarmed strike with.

>>53183075

Path of War. Initiators like Stalker and Warlord.

>>53182556

All I ever end up making is Warlords. My friend is a diehard Warder.

So wizards are one of the most vulnerable classes to save or suck. Ask a wizard to make a fort save and he begins preemptively vomiting to get himself lubed up for the real debuff.

How do you solve the wizard's abysmal saving throws? About the only spell that buffs their fort save is heroism and that doesn't nearly cover the gap.

>>53183108
Be a Thug archetype Rogue.
Invest in intimidate and shaken and sicken enemies all day.

Bonus points if you main nonlethal damage and use the Enforcer feat.

Go.

>>53183156
>The better to unarmed strike with.

You don't unarmed strike with your ass unless you're really trying to bruise the man behind or under you.

>>53183128

That's cool but I am looking for hard math and optimized builds on the subject.

>>53183173
This is perfect, thanks bud.

Unchained rogue, or vanilla? I don't really have experience with either.

>>53183186
Core Rogue is an NPC class

>>53183182
And you're expecting us to just have those on hand.

Look at it this way. PoW archetypes will do strictly more damage because they have all the resources of normal Paizo martial to do damage plus boosts and full attack maneuvers.

Unless you think those 5 feats fighters lost cover for a boost and full attack maneuver.

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>>53183177

I beg to differ! There us a long held tradition of thicc girls utilizing their posterior for superior damage.

>>53183186
Always go unchained rogue.
ALWAYS.

(And since you're set on the path now, as a bonus, spend one of your rogue talents on Ninja Trick -> Pressure Points for /more debuffs/)

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>>53183213
>There us a long held tradition of thicc girls utilizing their posterior for superior damage.

NO, THERE IS NOT! THE ASS IS FOR ADMIRING, NOT ASSAULT.

>>53183210

Qinggong Zen Archer Monk rapes PoW babbies tho

cBarb pouncing every time with dazes, shrugging off spells and getting more attacks from AoOs is also generally better in a lot of cases. Initiators are strictly only better in situations where you can't archery or charge, and even that is build dependent.

>>53183238

>he protests, while fantasizing about thicc drow and catgirls sitting on his face and smoothering him to death

>>53182898
Now I'm imagining it and it's really growing on me!

>>53182914
What do they say about country girls?

> Protag updates his character with two sentences of personality before getting ADD apparently
>But those first two sentences of the personality

I can tell this gonna be good.

Also I had to google ebullience.

>>53183261
Give me the DPR for the barbarian and monk and I'll try to make Warlords that beat them.

Won't even use Primal Fury or Broken Blade.

>>53183299

They live in the country. It's why they're called country girls.

>>53183299
They're strong, blessed with folksy wisdom, have cute accents, and endowed with huge tits.

>>53183168
Kobold Confidence feat to get Int to Fort saves.

>>53183261
>cBarb pouncing every time with dazes, shrugging off spells and getting more attacks from AoOs is also generally better in a lot of cases. Initiators are strictly only better in situations where you can't archery or charge, and even that is build dependent.
You realize the barbarian archetype can only charge pounce and get superstition, it just costs them 2 feats rather than rage powers.

>>53183335
>endowed with huge tits
but what about the ones with overalls and barely to no tits?

the superior ones

>Trouser Snakes bans drow
What's wrong with Drow?

>>53183335
Hey, that stereotype is unisex, you know. Country boys are treated the exact same way only the bits are gender-appropriate.

>>53183366
They're what we call tomboys, anon, and cherished./spoiler]

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What are your thoughts on the ninja alternate class? Are there any things you wish it did better?

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>>53183414
It's just not really that good - well, allow me to revise; it's good for a 1pp, but it's just kind of lackluster and shackled by the expectations of being a Ninja.

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>>53183432
I agree, and I have my own thoughts on where it falls short—I'd like to be able to make mortal kombat style ninjas, for example. I'm just interested in hearing people's thoughts on what kinda changes would make it a more interesting, worthwhile class.

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>>53183299

Not allowed.

>>53183414
It's better than Core Rogue, but still shackled by the fact that it's based on fucking Core Rogue and therefore full of all the same kinds of shitty problems. Adding Unchained Rogue's free shit on top of it fixes about the same amount of things as it does for Rogue (very little) so there's that.
Ninja really needs the Legendary Rogues treatment, IMO

operator, operator
please hook me up to my lover at the end of the line

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>>53183569
Got it.

>>53182349
Dragon style obviously

>>53183610
What else? Street Style?

>>53183569
Which waifu should I put you through to?
>Wubu
>Rory
>Captain Slow
>QANON
>Wist
>DHB
>Sleep

What's STR-based front line class that can dish out punishment and get people to hit them at low levels?

Bonus points if it's not a Barb or Pally

>>53183651
>get people to hit them at low levels

Ha ha ha ha.
I'll tell you a secret, anon.
Barely any class can do this at any level.

1pp PF has no traditional aggro pulling mechanics.

>>53183306

Warlord archer doesn't even beat a Fighter lore warden archer, much less a Qinggong Zen Archer Monk. Enjoy your stuns.

btw Myrmidon Fighter is much better at breaking dpr with PoW mechanics than a Warlord is

>>53183352

>not taking come and get it, dazing, accuracy buff, etc

Sorry I think cbarb still wins in most cases.

>>53183696
Fucking post the 1pp builds already if you want us to show you hard numbers.

>>53183696
>>53183720
But also I'm leaving soon for irl so don't think I gave up if you don't get a response after posting

>>53183720

Its already been posted on reddit in the last month vs a warlord archer build. If you meant the Qinggong Zen Archer Monk, that is extemely well documented already. Go check the DPR olympics thread or search Paizo forums if you are feeling so insecure.

>>53183773
Link the reddit thread because searching that mess for terms as vague as 'warlord' and 'myrmidon' turn up nothing.

The true question.

Should I go for 16 Dex/18 Int or 18 Dex/16 Int?

>>53183475
Snakes are huggers, not punchers.

>>53183814
But I thought you guys were all muh reddit freddit

>>53183629
DHB is for hugs, not for fugs.

>>53183814

Not sure if you can on 4chan

Path of War's balance.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_RPG/comments/5z9z0k/path_of_wars_balance/

So I'm trying to make a Slayer and I'm kind of confused about which way to go.

I'm trying to decide between Dual Shields (GM won't let me get double AC from them sadly) or Shield and Kukri or Scimitar to fish for crits. I'm anticipating being the main tank here as well, so that's a factor.

As I probably won't have anyone to help me flank for Sneak Attacks/Flanks (Only party member I know of is a Sorc) I'll have to manufacture my own Sneak Attack opportunities. From what I can tell there are 3 different paths for that. Crit Effects (We're starting at level 3 so that's a long way off), Feint and Intimidate.

Going Intimidate seems pretty badass, especially if dual wielding shields, but I'm not really sure how to go about it. High Str+TWF via Ranger Feats(Slows down Shield Master to level 11 but no need for 15 dex for TWFs) and Skill Focus Intimidate or the one that lets you use your STR bonus for Intimidate+Dazzling Display? The alternative seems to be to work to Two Weapon Feint.

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>>53182165
Should we make the next thread /Paizo General/ instead of /Pathfinder general/?

>>53183629
Operator, you put husbandos with your waifus and waifus with your husbandos!

>>53183929

When Starfinder comes out.

>>53183941
Is that bad though?

>>53183929
Paizo Games General

/pgg/

>>53183929
I'd rather have separate Starfinder general once it actually comes out, but I suppose it'll depend on how popular it turns out to be.

>>53183929
Wayfinder general?

>>53183992
Of course it is; some people want to whisper sweet nothings in someone's ear, while some people want someone to whisper sweet nothings in their ear!

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Will Starfinder have a thicc robot race?

>>53183835
>Uncoiled, is three times the height of an average man
>Has the muscle strength to crush two people at once

>Still tips her hat and raises her fist, yelling at enemies to put up their dukes and that she'll knock some sense into them like she did back home

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>>53183835

>>53184030
Pathfinder discussion will be slow when Starfinder comes out, and Starfinder discussoin will be slow after the first month. There's no way a split will be necessary, we're only getting content for Starfinder every other month afterall.

>>53184043
Pathfinder already has a thicc robot race, they're called Androids and are explicitly constructed to both mimic and engage in humanoid interactions. Starfinder has the same thing.

You can totally make a Haydee.

>>53184078
This is news to me. I have some things to take care of.

>>53184074
There is no Pathfinder discussion of any kind going on right now save for the guy asking for his Slayer

This is already slow

>>53184088
Fair bit of warning, though; Androids are pretty much Data-esque emotionless unless you grab an ART.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/more-races/advanced-races-11-20-rp/android-16-rp/

They make a great Dex-based Warder or Slayer, though!

>>53184074
Yeah, but first doing a split, then getting rid of the /pfg/ might improve the quality of discussion at least temporarily.

>>53184038
Are you saying then that husbandus don't want to have sweet nothings whispered in their ears? Or that you wouldn't want to whisper sweet nothing into Sleep's ear as he DMs a lewd game.

Ever played a political campaign with ultimate intrigue? How was it?

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>>53184191
God, I wish. Political Intrigue is the manna upon which my soul finds nourishment.

>>53184048
Alright, alright. How do I Yuan-Ti?

>>53184149
PM them, god dammit!

What exactly is the "Solarian" class in Starfinder supposed to be?

>>53184250
Soulknife + Aegis
But knowing paizo, they're going to muck it up

>>53184221
I do! But sometimes I wouldn't mind being PMed first.

>>53184250
A Dark Souls meme

>>53184258
>>53184221
Holy shit take it outside

I wanna do a political intrigue game set in a fantasy UN, with a lot of culture clashing between wildly different races. And also, cute lady ambassadors from the monstrous races.

>>53184297
Define "intrigue"

>>53184250
A Jedi without the lightsaber.

>>53184297
Why not a Political Intrigue set in an HRE-style empire? Absurdly bureaucratic, Prince-Electors warring amongst each other, it'd be great!

>>53184297
>political intrigue
>UN
UN is literally American and sometimes Chinese dickwaving

>>53184331
I more mean the principle of representatives from a very diverse range of national and regional powers.

>>53184324
HRE-style? Elaborate plz

>>53184320
Grandiose political shouting matches, racial tensions, grudging alliances, back-room deals, hopeless romance, the usual.

>>53184209
I'd ask 2hu or Buildposter for a competent build, but I need one more thing from you:

What reason does she have for leaving home and going along with a bunch of scallywags?

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>>53184297
>>53184331
If your fantasy UN doesn't have gif related happen at least once you're doing it wrong.

>>53184423
I completely agree. Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCe8iai-SRs

>>53184390
>HRE-style?

The Empire is actually comprised of numerous semi-autonomous states that vote in an Emperor, who serves for life. Said Emperor owns his own lands and retains an elite force of soldiers allied only to him, but outside of that things get very, very murky; you can have theocracies led by a Bishopric, or Imperial Cities (which are often mercantile city-states that answer only to the Emperor, and have their own voice in the Diet, the main legislative body of the Empire) and even Magravates, which are more or less Marches (which is itself a sort of militarized state) and found on the borders of the Empire as "buffers" against foreign invasion.

The bread and butter of the diet, however, are the Prince-Electors. These are the Kings, the Dukes and even Counts of the feudal system, whose voice in the Diet is directly proportional to the size of their realm and its majesty and prosperity. To get a bigger voice, you must invade your neighbor (Prince-Electors are able to declare war or conspire against other Prince-Electors, while the Emperor can call for Realm Peace if things get too frisky), marry and unite your realms, or even simply out-produce them. When you have a big enough voice and enough friends, you can elect your pick for the Emperor once the Emperor dies.

Therein lay the hook for your campaign; the Emperor is dead, and the Diet has been called to elect a new one.

>>53184472
Poor North Korea representative.

>>53184497
Sounds like a somewhat complicated system that would lead to needless conflict and betrayal. Fuggin' perfect.

Friendly reminder that 2hu shat up HR Alpha so hard off screen, they made the book one boss into a breast-envy maid and got the system changed into the one they co-wrote. This is why we don't let 2hu play games, people!

>>53184565

Yeah, that's kind of how it went.

So if Androids are Haydee, what race would be an Assaultron? Is there a decent conversion for the Warforged from Eberron?

>>53184397
Ask DHB instead

>>53184614
I thought the breast envy maid story was hilarious and just what I would have hoped for if I applied for that game.

I'm surprised they changed to Strike, though.

>>53184620
Assaultron are actual robots, or perhaps Clockwork mechanisms. That said, Assaultron can also be heavily-modified Androids incorporating internal weaponry.

What level does this campaign start at?

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>>53183366

You can have the HRE Empire one just about making sure the ruling body of a city state votes for the right dude, who is indirectly paying the party.

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>>53183302
> 7 int
> 7 str
> overly trusting
> the purest
> want's to help and nurture the poor disadvantaged savages

>>53184397
It's a very basic motivation. Having recently come of age, she's come to realize that the village isn't doing so well. Less kids are being born every year, and long-time friends are moving away to the city. Not only that, but the last harvest was ruined because of early frost. Between wanting to help the villagers out of gratitude for raising her, and desiring to see the world beyond the forest and the fields, she's packing up and heading out to find a way to bring wealth and health back to her hometown!

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>>53184687
>mfw the plot gets so convoluted even the party loses track of just what the fuck is going on

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>>53184001
>>/pegging/

>>53182165
Didn't expect the Best Girl to have such short hair. But hey, that's always a plus in my book!

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>>53184687
>mfw the party inadvertently causes the formation of the Hanseatic League.

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>>53184728

>>53184711
What's there to understand except the fact that that one guy /is the senate/

Soulbolt or Soulbow?

>>53184390
But where do the players come in?

Also I don't want sex

Who in LoBaF do you most want to see paired up? And why is it Essa x Gamze.

>>53184775
>also I don't want sex
>but in the same post
anon are you drunk

>>53184775
Good.
You can be the pure one.

>>53184749
That would never happen, never,

>>53184792
Because those are the only two LoBaF characters whose names I know.

>>53183629
Sleep doesn't make waifus--sleep makes the most deliciously corruptible boys.

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Tell me anon, when was the last time you pushed someone off a ledge or did something similar?

Go ahead, you can tell us what dastardly trick you pulled. No one will judge you here friend.

>>53184809
Don't want to play around sluts either.

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>>53184699
Don't worry anon, the savages won't get to her if the hellknight does. "None are innocent," after all.

>>53184792
I have fond memories of the harpy they just met up with. I want to see someone make her their little bird.

>>53184824
>c@
>Melf
>Aladdin
>Blingmaker
Memorize it faggot.

Is there a viable bard archetype that makes them... not bards?

I want to play a buff caster but I don't want to play music or dance.

>>53184827
What do each of them make anon-senpai?

>>53184874
Just make your primary performance Act, Comedy or Oratory.

>>53184874
I think Archeologist removes Performance, also Dervish Dancer is about battledancing

OR just play an Oracle, Shaman, Cleric, Warpriest, or something else built around buffs. Plus the former options can still fite gud

>>53184702
To add on to that, she's also a follower of Sarenrae for obvious reasons. One of her less talked about goals is wanting to sunbathe at every shrine she can find! Of course, between her lisp and her tendency to draw out the S sound, she doesn't say her goddess' name often because it's embarrassing.

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>>53184614
>>53184655
There is literally nothing wrong with switching from Pathfinder.

>>53184937
>watermark
Faggot at least make it manually.

>>53184937
>someone spent time and energy making this

>>53184882
Okay, now I play with certain people and not with others, and I haven't followed all the games religiously, so this is going to have holes in it.

Wubu--Don't know
Rory--Shitty dogs with stupidly huge cocks
Captain Slow--Daddy fetish bait, even if they're supposed to be fresh-faced teens
QANON--She made Quinn? don't know otherwise
Wist--Rapebait
DHB--Incredibly dysfunctional people who act completely professional and businesslike IC
Sleep--Heroes who are trying to be something they're not

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>>53184989
>wist makes rapebait
>people insist she's a good pure girl
made me think

>>53185013
You wouldn't rape a bed, anon.

>>53184770
A party of politically oblivious adventurers bumbling their way through the Not!HRE is too much fun.

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>>53185013
Would you take a party of nothing but cute iM@Ses?

>>53184989
>DHB--Incredibly dysfunctional people who act completely professional and businesslike IC
DHB seems the type that treats party members as coworkers instead of friends. What a shit attitude.

>>53185076
Don't count on it happening, all three previous political games promised vanished into thin air. In fact...since Wist was GMT+8, was SHE the one who was going to run KSnH since her excuse was that her timeslots were all filled up?

>>53185078
Only if I can play Chie Omega.

>>53184989
Yeah, but which ones are shitters and which ones are not?

>>53184989
So who DOES make the best waifus on /pfg/?

>>53184937
>they put worst girl on it

>>53185118
Broodie.

>>53185114
The only confirmed shitter is Rory.
Everyone else is nice enough, though DHB is too monomaniacal about bookkeeping to really be interested in much else.

>>53185103
>Not keeping your relationship with your fellow players strictly professional
>Not establishing an implied power over them through social engineering and hyper-competence
>Not staying in your DM's good graces by being a useful player for them in order to reap extra rewards

>>53185118
Immortal King? Gloriana was hugely popular when posted, and so has Branwen.

>>53185118
Broodie hands down. Started knocking it out of th part right from the start with Rinka and has only kept that level of quality

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>>53185111
Why is Chie Omega?

>>53185118
The very best waifu in /pfg/ history, for my money at least, was Song Lilin.

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>>53185122
Discord cabal(s) is NOT worst girl. No bully. Just because there are half a dozen Discord-chans doesn't make them bad!

>>53185161
Does DHB really do this?

>>53185172
What did Broodie even do besides Rinka, his meme Overlewd apps, and ROaB app nobody talks about?

Oh, there's his HV character but that was pre-Rinka.

>>53185118
Swimming Eagle, Broodie, iKid, and Sappy all put out consistently good waifus.

>>53185217
Rinka was a RotJR app first.

Pretty sure he did Gamagirly too

>>53185217
>pre-Rinka

Rinka is from early RotJR dude

>>53185217
HV was actually post-Rinka, because Rinka was a RotJR char.

They also did Aoife for shardwalkers that made people want to fuck plants.

Nobody talks about ROaB at all so.

>>53185213
If he does, he's bad at it. "Social engineering" attempts basically shake out, in my experience, to being either snotty or just passive-aggressive, if not both.

DHB basically just tries to run all the loot distribution and occasionally bugs people about helping him with it.

>>53185213
DHB is probably the least likely personality in all of /pfg/ to pull something like this off.

>>53185237
>people
You mean the Discord

>>53185111
That doesn't seem to be Wist's style. Last I heard she wanted to run an Avowed|Vigilante gestalt oneshot based off golden age superheroes.

Remember there's one other confirmed GMT+8 anon: M Kawase

>>53185239
Wait how passive aggressive is DHB then if he fucks it up? I feel sorry for LoBaF folks.

>>53184989
Sleep's problem is he tries to make characters that aren't really husbando material. Sticks to his guns, but they're always overshadowed because they don't use bait art, don't have obvious fetish traits, and aren't self-shilled in the thread--with one exception (Kyras) that even he admitted was a mistake.

>>53185257
Personally, I think BBP was right, and Johnny had it coming.

>>53185228
Who always puts out consistently good husbandos?

>>53185281
No question at all, Captainslow.

>>53185118
More of a newcomer and not the best, but Hecate made two nice waifus in a row. The last minute app for LoBaF was cute but really sparse.

>>53185269
See, that's the thing. Most people do social engineering poorly, he doesn't do social engineering *at all*.

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>>53181240
>>53184614
Friendly Reminder: >>53178599

>My group had tricked a major antagonist NPC in an adventure path into working as a maid in a maid cafe.

>This particular GM's rendition of Nox from Hell's Rebels presented her as a somewhat gullible, flat-chested, cute girl with an inferiority complex due to her chest size. We arranged for her to come across a small book in an occult archive, describing a ritual with which to expand her chest size by the end of six months' time. The instructions essentially boiled down to, "Work in a maid cafe and sporadically yell out extremely embarrassing incantations in Common."

>Due to such a high degree of craftsmanship in the fake book, she believed it.

>The twist, however, is that we had unwittingly created a functional occult ritual. If it begins to generate genuine results, the female PCs might just hop aboard the bandwagon and work in a maid cafe as well.

>The group did not actually accomplish this together. My character had carried out the chicanery single-handedly.

>What can we make of this situation?

>>53185259
Nah, plenty of people here wanted to fuck plants to. Did you miss all the talking about "le pollinate" and "DONT FUCK PLANTS!" and people making jokes how /pfg/ on /trash/ is already Plantfucker General?

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So are they taking the chance to improve the core rules at all with Starfinder or is it just more new classes and other features tacked on?

>>53185306
new core rules for starfinder we think

>>53185267
Can't be him, look at his applications with availabilities. I was thinking Wist because iirc she got into...I want to say PLD around that time?

>>53185289
Hi Slow.

But seriously, I've never found any of Captain Slow's characters appealing. They've got a lot of backstory, sure, but they just don't do it for me. I think celebrity makes up most of their appeal because when people look at any of his characters, they just see Casimir, and they want him to play Casimir for them.

>>53184989
>Sleep--Heroes who are trying to be something they're not

It warms my heart to see him rise up. Wasn't the guy 100% sure that he wasn't as good an app and wasn't going to get into RotJR?

>>53185301
Yes, and that was just Broodie's Discord dick sucking squad dragging their memes from Discord to the threads

>>53185301
It's funny you make a correlation between /pfg/ and /trash/. It's as if one was meant to have a specific subject, and the other one too.

>>53185269
You're reading it wrong. What's being said is that DHB isn't capable of passive aggression. The office metaphor here is that DHB is the hard worker who's good at his job but gets passed up on promotions because the boss wants a man the rest of the office loves.

>>53185324
Yes. He kept it under his hat, mostly, apart from occasionally popping in to ask questions.

I wish he'd kept up that attitude, because Kyrasposting got fucking insufferable until he realized the thread was turning on him. Only Overlewd being a distraction from it really saved his reputation.

>>53185306
>spess goblins
>probably no spess kobolds
Suffering

>>53185337
I think you're really overestimating the discord

>>53185324
>Wasn't the guy 100% sure that he wasn't as good an app and wasn't going to get into RotJR?
Around the time of picks he was certain that Etan had bested him at Rubio's entire shtick and was hoping that he would at least be able to live vicariously through a LITERAL ANIMAL.

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>>53185306

From what we've learned, there will be various changes and improvements. However, the July preview will apparently include conversion rules to help adapt PF content for the system.

>>53185321
I think Slow's characters are appealing but I think they all have the same appeal. His range seems narrow compared to the waifucrafters he's being compared with.

He and Sleep are the only personalities I'm aware of who regularly get into games and also focus on male characters. Both of them seem to have a particular type though.

>>53185356
Who needs space Kobolds when you've got space Lizardfolk?

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>>53185368
And look at them now!

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>>53185361
Friendly reminder that /pfg/ splintered into SIX different Discord server cabals.

>>53185380
There's less acceptable range for appealing husbandos in general.
It's just a way of the world.

>>53185397
Six?

>>53185397
>six
Which one has the most popular people in it?

>>53185397
>He thinks we've only splintered into six
Nigga, we've hit double digits.

>>53185397
Did it really? I know Broodie fucked off out of the original one but I didn't know there were like 6.

>>53185118
Adam is good at low-key weirdos, but Wist is a super-cutie!

>>53185380
>He and Sleep are the only personalities I'm aware of who regularly get into games and also focus on male characters

Disk as well, I think Viviana was their first female app.

>>53185397
W-What

I only know about four of them

>>53185306
My only wish is that 5ft+full attack isn't all martials are doing. 5e has shit for build options but I love how much mobility is available under the core rules for an immediate comparison.

>>53185397
You're an idiot. There's only 2, and the second one is explicitly just for posting NSFW images and being less hectic in numbers.

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>>53185397
It might just be discords for different games though. Of course you would want a discord to put your logs and whatnot in.

Don't be a fucking goon. There is only a few discords if not the main one at that.

>>53185404
He's done a grizzled father, sad widower, starry-eyed teen and now a broody secret agent.

I think that covers all the husbando bases? I mean, besides the Don Juan and womanizer.

>>53185438
There's one, and then there's the Latenight Discord run by I want to say Broodie.

>>53185356
>goblins are original but kobolds are too mainstream
Niggawat

>>53185381
>Old ugly lizards people

>>53185435
>You're an idiot. There's only 2, and the second one is explicitly just for posting NSFW images and being less hectic in numbers.

You mean you don't know? Ouch. I guess nobody wanted to tell you. Must suck to not be in the 'in' crowd.

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>>53185435
The NSFW cabal is also for general discussion.
There's also an "RP Workshop" cabal that's ALSO for general discussion.

I dunno about the other 3.

>>53185380
Who has the biggest range anyway?

>>53185397
>tfw /pfg/ could easily be made into a setting
>warring cabals of mages
>independent wizard kings
>hermits and monsters
>nameless citizens caught in the middle

>>53185445
>broodie secret agent

>>53185456
Kobolds are old ugly lizards people too.

>>53185468
>Who has the biggest range anyway

DHB

>>53185465
Nobody uses the workshop though. It's been at least a whole week since the last time anyone posted in there.

>>53185356
There is a planet full of dragons that kobolds will be worshiping. It will work out fine my son.

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Tell me about glabrezus, /pfg/. I need a little more depth on one of the only demon types that's gone woefully underused.

Because I think I just found a good ancestor for my PC

>>53185465
Broodie fucked off right?

>>53185497
Oh my god I want to see Elven ships and Triaxian politics now.

Imagine a ship or body armor designed to look like dragon scales.

>>53185507
Broodie fucked off out of the main discord, yeah.

>>53185461
Which one is Bailey in? That's really the only question that needs to be answered.

>>53185493
Everybody's too nervous to use the forum that was supposed to let them get over being too nervous to use other fora.

>>53183323
>Know what they say about them country girls!
THEY GOT THAT HORSE PUSSY

>>53185461
>internet politics
That's why I come on 4chan like once a year

>>53185468
>Who has the biggest range anyway?
That's a really difficult question. Most regular applicants around here don't get into more than one or two games, whether due to their quality or just because they back off when they hit their quota. We can ignore their play ability since only their party will recognize it for certain, but there're issues even referring back solely to apps.

People who become personalities typically get there because of their patterns, even if a name here actually did have a big range they'd most likely be associated with their primary meme character.

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>>53185468

>"Beware young traveler, that lies the domain of Swimming Eagle, Lord of Excess. It is beset by mutant dragons, strange beings all to similar to men and women but of grand and overwhelming physiques. Avoid all pleasures of the flesh in those lands young one, lest you be drawn in and never return. "

I'm down. I am SUPER DOWN

>>53185369
I really didn't like the idea of Starfinder at all when I first heard about it but Space Liches, Gundams and the idea of having a literal skeleton crewed ghost ship appearing is getting me hyped for it. You've got me listening to filk again /tg/!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w34fSnJNP-4

>>53185537
Christ.

Discord was a mistake.

>>53185537
>endgame zones are the dominions of 2hu and DHB

>>53185550
probably

>>53185550
I've been saying that for years, and nobody listened.

>>53185505
>Because I think I just found a good ancestor for my PC
This thing as a credit card reader in lieue of a dick Anon

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>>53185505
Reverse Gravity.

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>>53185556

>>53185468
Let's take Sleep for an example
>Romantic, brash knight stuck in a small town due to family obligations
>Draconic manly bancho by night, friendly baker by day
>Freed slave who wants to find his family and heritage
>Creepy obsessive wizard who got molested by a great old one
>Deformed bastard who wants to make it big as a villain but wishes desperately that he could be a hero

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>>53185591
Why is he Eizen?

>>53185544
Check out the distant worlds pdf. You will like it my son

>>53185602
because 2hu's avatar is Edna

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>>53185369
I wonder how gods'll work
Nice that spellcasting's spontaneous, never liked prepping myself.
Kind of weird that 7-9 spell circles are not in core but oh well
Or maybe they are included but the classes just aren't built with/for them?

>>53185601
Do DHB!

>>53185602
Because he's associated with being 2hu's sibling because they're the only ones who can rival each other's autism.

>>53185601
Broodie's range isn't terrible actually.

Most of the meme players are actually pretty decent in range.

>>53185591
>>53185602
>>53185624
DHB is also associated with Phantom Pain.

Slowcogs, A Wise Homebrewer Denied His Games.

>>53185624
DHB doesn't do cute anime shit like >>53178599

>>53185561
>>53185559
I don't even mean its existence
I mean its internet politics and "fragmenting"
Why the fuck do we need a trillion seperate discords? Presumably there's literally warring cabals too, if people need to ask "where Bailey is" or "if broodie fucked off from one of the discords", where certain discords become sekrit clubs or special circles. It's dumb, if we need a discor at all it should've just been one.

>>53185397

>hanging out with /pfg/ in discord

Why would I ever do that?

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So am I missing anything or are Eidolons basically retarded? 7 Int is pretty terrible after all. Which is kinda sad because I like some of the character concepts allowed in Unchained Eidolon which would be hurt by that. Kinda hard to have a fiendish tempter try and lure you to the dark side if all they can say is "dewit."

>>53185666
Pretty sure they can get higher stats as you level up.

Why is Grimoire of Lost Souls hated? If you look past the...like...three fetishy spirits, the content is actually pretty cool and the Pactmaker seems interesting.

>>53185574
>Implying tieflings need to be created through sex

>>53185645
Lies, DHB is a cute Onee-chan.

>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53160282/#53165248

>>53185684
RAPES YOU AND TURNS INTO INTO A FEMALE PANTHER ANTHRO WHO LUSTS FOR COCK SO HARD YOU CANNOT RESIST THE ORDERS OF DOMINANT MEN.

>>53185683
They get +8 to Dex/Str as time goes on but unless you're spending the ability point they get every four levels they're stuck at 7 Int.

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>>53185696
>if you look past the fetishy shit
>BUT THE FETISHY SHIT
???

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>>53185696
Was that a sentence, or an attempt at ERPing?

>>53185696
Wait, is this CoC: The Book?

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>>53185684
>Grimoire of Lost Souls

>>53185666
>retarded
No. They're just not as smart as people. Big difference.

>>53185706
7 int is not even that bad though. The average peasant has between 7 and 12 int, with 10 being the average joe on the street.

>>53185715
Yeah man if we just ignore the bad things, its good!

Holy shit!
>>53185721
Its literally a thing that one of the spirits does to you
>>53185723
its literally in the book

>>53185706
Or buy the Ability Score Evolution for Int twice, but that's basically a third of a lvl 20 Eidolon's EP sunk into having average intelligence.

>>53185733
an Augunas book

>>53185662
I tried to.

It was a bad move.

>>53185686
>bloodline
>genetics
Immaculate conception is a meme for a reason

>>53185684
Do you have a PDF to share?

>>53185505

PF Glabrezu can grant wishes but its monkey's paw style wishes that always corrupt the wish into an ultimately destructive end; ie blacksmith becomes the best in the kingdom but all his weapons are used by serial killers.

They are well spoken but can be brutal and savage in combatm They seduce with offerings of power or wealth. They are counterparts to the succubus.

My own homebrew setting has a glabrezu and succubus power couple as major planar antagonists.

>>53185578

Is also right.

>>53185652
Because the Main discord has shit moderation and allowed retards to drive the actually valuable people out

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>>53185740
I mean, when the bad things are literally optional out of a huge list of options....yes?

>>53185733
>>53185758
It's a big book about binding spirits and getting constellation powers. It has a pretty swanky base class, a fuckton of archetypes, feats, magic items, and stuff based around binding planar spirits, a few prestige class.
It has a gigantic list of possible spirits. A few of which come off as wierd or fetishy.

Look in the first trove Other 3pp> Radiance House> Grimoire of Lost Souls

>>53185751
>So you won't take my soul? Seriously?
>Sure, no soul, no money, maybe just a little favor down the line. Just sign right there on the dotted line...
>Smash cut to some years later, turns out the demon had something else in mind to ruin the guy's life

>>53182165
Never played Pathfinder but Furi is indeed patrician tier. Good on you /pfg/

>>53185788
You can't just ignore the bad, especially when its that egregiously bad.

>>53185751

Ive recruited 4channers for games who were decent, but none of them post here.

>>53185735
Its listed on the same tier as Ogres in the SRD, only one point higher. "Dull-witted or slow, often misuses and mispronounces words"

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/ability-scores/#TOC-Abilities-and-Spellcasters

What is the appropriate way to approach another player you want to be strictly platonic non-ERPing friends with?

>>53185537

hoards of thicc barbarians roam the lands of Eagle's doman. It is death to enter there.

>>53185772
The only people I've ever seen named as a retard who drives people out are Darjeeling and Kawase. Darjeeling is gone and Kawase posts less, and you can filter people on discord pretty easily if you have to. Like who do you mean? I can't imagine one guy is enough to 'drive people out' that's like one filterable shitposter driving people out of a general.
Discord was bad enough already but splintering into a trillion groups only encourages even more politics and for people to split further and further enforcing their own vision of retard or non-retard. It's stupid and pointless and fundamentally superfluous - moreso than having a discord at all.

>>53185808
Just PM them.
Ask them some stuff, shoot the shit, offer to discuss characters. Swap stories about how games have been going. That sort of thing.

>>53185808

Treat them like a human being and express interest in hanging out beyond just the game itself.

See if they have any vidya they enjoy then play coop.

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>>53185798
You literally can though? Your hand isn't being forced to stroke Anajira's dick? There's like a hundred other spirits to choose from. That particular spirit takes up one page out of a 300 page book? Do you have any other reasons the book is bad, or are you just really tunnel-visioned?

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>>53185772
>>53185832
How would you play a serval catfolk gunslinger with a love for darjeeling and orange pekoe?

>>53185841
by playing a serval catfolk gunslinger with a love for darjeeling and orange pekoe.

>>53185788
Im a shit and don't know where first trove is. Any help?

>>53185537
>>53185601
What's DHB's realm like?

>>53185863
And what's 2hu's like?

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>>53185851
Step 1, click the Unified /pfg/ link repository

>>53185537

Id rather have a land of super gay bara barbarians. At least then I would admit that im a huge faggot, unlike you.

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>>53185851
>>53185877
Step 2, realize that you need to be spoon-fed simple directions.

>>53185877
I'm having a similar problem to >>53185851
Links busted dude.

>>53185903
https://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Works fine for me? Clear your cookies. It's what I had to do when the trove wouldn't work.

>>53185838
It's tainted by association. There's also that one spirit whose influence is flat out just 'you gotta try to fuck everything you're even remotely attracted to'

Although honestly, Anajira's not the worst in my opinion.

That dubious honor goes to the two or three age-regression spirits, one of which got an entire fucking prestige class for itself, where you're bound to it forever and are always a kid from now on and can permanently de-age other people as well.

>>53185914
Christ.

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>>53185914
>I'M A CHERRY-PICKING FAGGOT
Is all I'm hearing. Got a reason why it's bad as a whole, or just these specific OPTIONAL things make the whole thing bad for you in a really unreasonable and stupid way.

>>53185944
>JUST IGNORE THE BAD THINGS IN THE BOOK, THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT A BAD BOOK, ITS DEFINITELY NOT TAINTED.

>>53185684
>.three fetishy spirits
There's more than that, also because Alexander Augunas is a faggot who should be hated on as much as possible

>>53185962
Augunas's problem is that much like /pfg/, he can't keep it in his goddamn pants.

>>53185961
As a whole, yes? Example: Why is Pactmaker, in and of itself, a bad class? Because if you think it's a bad class simply because of three or four someadd OPTIONAL spirits, then you're retarded,

>>53185985
>tacitly supporting literal furshit

>>53185998
>I CAN'T MAKE A REAL ARGUMENT TO SAVE MY LIFE.

>>53186007
>not understanding why people don't want to dig through a pile of fetish-shit to find a few corn-nuggets of decency.

>>53186017
>>53186007
>>53185998
>>53185961
>>53185944
And here I thought we could only go up from discussing meme players.

>>53186017
Other way around dingleberry, it's the wierd fetish shit that's the few corn-nuggets and the normal/decent shit that's more prevalant.
Again, stop attacking my character and make a real fucking argument as to why the book as a whole is shit. Because, even though I agree that the fetish shit is gross/wierd, the book as a whole is neat imo.

>>53185867
Overly designed outfits on anime girls who work, play and sleep at predesignated times, optimized for their individual needs.

Meme me a meme, you memesters.

Planning on making a Raven Lord harbinger // something with familiar.
Current first picks are wizard (duh), witch (duh), and warlock archetype incanter.

Considering debating with the GM about taking the Nature specialization and Animal domain, then swapping those animal companions for additional familiars. Would you allow that in your game?

Out of the various prestige classes for soulknives, should I pick Soul Archer or Primarch?

>>53186035
The book is neat, yes.

Heck, Anajira's powers are actually pretty cool, I'd love to have a dark magic touch attack I can full attack with.

But the fact of the matter is that it is unsettling, and fouls the others with association. And it's not just Anajira. There's the fuckmonster. The de-agers. The pregnancy beast which makes you into a hyper.

This apple is perfectly fine, but it was sitting next to this other apple a guy injected with jizz. But the first apple's still totally fine! Doesn't mean you wanna eat it.

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>>53186106
Only the freshest for you, anon.

Ehem.

>C H A R M E D L I F E

>>53186137
>fouls the others with association
So, say you hate ketchup, but like mustard on your hotdog.
You order the hotdog and ask for mustard. The dispensers are, like most dispensers, right next to eachother. As a result, you throw the hotdog on the ground and walk away.

The ketchup is there, but is entirely optional and you don't have to even touch it.

Also rule 0 exists to make things nice for everyone because most GMs aren't stick-in-the-mud lawyers.

>>53186279
More like you want ketchup, but the dispenser next to the ketchup one has jizz in it.

Blingmaker greentext when?

Is the Feral Heart Soulknife any good?

I heard there was an infinite healing trick with the Life sphere, but I cannot for the life of me find it. Am I missing something obvious, or have I been rused?

>>53186321
*shrugs and happily uses the cool content of the book*

>>53185118
Exhack makes some good ones but allegedly dislikes being memed.

>>53186390
Don't listen to him he loves being memed, he's just shy and afraid of memeing himself. It's okay though because I'll meme him.

>>53186390
I don't like his apps

>>53186377
*Grabs you by the scruff and pulls you close, smiling wide*

Don't you fucking dare, kid.