Infinity General - Asuka Kisaragi appreciation edition

How viable are Aragoto? Thinking Bubblegum Crisis conversions.

First for Aleph!

>>53153426
Thank you OP for taking my request

>>53153486
Well they cant get cover, but have Mimetism. They move fast as all fuck and even have some button pushers. Some of them even have a brutal payload like Assualt Pistol, boarding shotgun, ect.

All for a decent price. I'd say worth it.

>>53153486
If they came with smoke they'd be the best bikers in the game.

Why isn't Plasma Exotic?

>This type of ammunition is named after the plasma-like ionized gas it holds by means of electromagnetic fields. Upon impact, the E/M containment field dissipates, causing the plasma to expand explosively. A hallmark of VoodooTech, the technology of the alien Ur Rationalists, Plasma is the most sophisticated technology on the battlefields of Paradiso. Until the alien invasion, this ammunition was confined to science fiction novels and Maya serials, but now it is part of the reality of warfare in the Human Sphere. Weapons capable of generating these hyper-advanced projectiles, typically carried only by the most elite troops of the EI, are invaluable technological treasures.

>Plasma is the most sophisticated technology on the battlefields of Paradiso.
>invaluable technological treasures.
>Category: Standard.

>>53153652
Yojimbo has smoke, is cheap, and is on a bike. He's pretty much JSA only though.

>>53153657
Maybe it's referring more to it's rarity? there seem to be a LOT of plasma weps in the basically one faction that can run it.

>>53153678
He's not an aragoto. Also extremely impetuous

>>53153657
To give more value to total immunity.

>>53153776
There's at least as much "Exotic" T2 in Ariadna
or "Exotic" stun on every Warcor ever taken, let alone the other sources of it.

>>53153657
Plasma just burns people real good. The distinction of exotic ammo is that it gets past total immunity, so only things that fuck you up in a roundabout way (overloading sensors/eyes with flash, disabling equipment with E/M, giving you super herpes with viral) are counted.

>>53153486
Easily one of the best bike profiles in the game.

>>53153840
T2 ammo is just combined JHP and flechette rounds, and it's exotic and bypasses total immunity.

Plasma burns you with temperatures equivalent to the fucking sun and also explosively expands likely either blowing holes in you or at the very least fucking up your internal organs through the shockwave.

I guess really what I'm getting at is fuck T2 ammo it shouldn't be exotic, and crits with it should be slightly less bullshit.

>>53153971
>bypasses total immunity.
Read the rules for total immunity friend. It specifically says it grants immunity to T2. Probably a relic from N2 but that's how they ruled it at Rumble and other tournaments around here.

Does anybody have templates for cut-out template weapons? I don't want to spend like 20 bucks for some plastic.

>>53153426
Asuka is gay.

>>53153486
The main advantage they have against other bikes in this game is that their running into the enemy with full movement at the start of each turn is largely option, leaving them regular for waiting for better oppportunities to strike and have easier coordinated orders, and their lack of cover is mitigated by mimetism. They're great for later game flanking and objective grabbing. I'd like them a lot more of the hacker I field most often of whom I named Baka didn't fail the majority of his WIP rolls for objective grabbing by some weird coincidence, because on paper they should be more amazing.

>>53154181
http://assets.infinitythegame.net/downloads/n3markers/letter/v1.0/n3markers.pdf

Page 4 under their markers assets in the free downloads page. Make sure to use cardstock or some other hard paper.

>>53154363
Thank you

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>>53154181

Paper templates are on the official site. I just bought some foam board from dollar tree and made a cut out; works fine, if ugly. Foam board is great for making silhouette proxies, too.

General question: Has anyone used Spitefire Prowler much? They look great (statline wise, model isn't bad), but I don't see anyone using them.

>>53154389
As a person who faces Nomads pretty often, I find the LFT options more annoyingly surprising. Burns my TO, ODD, Holo2, and other camo skirmishers most likely found in the midfield by surprise more often than not. I'd think the spitfire is better suited on a model like the Hellcat if its going to be on a MI, at least in Vanilla. In Bakunin, it's not bad, but, well, Riot Grrrls exist with MSV2, Better BS, and an extra order with a kill if they're outside of a link team, and the Taskmaster's a better suited platform for the SWC with the better Red Fury and Koalas.

>>53154389
I think people are just scared to field a 1 wound model at 36 points, but I imagine he would be a nasty surprise in an infiltration heavy list. If you field him with two Zero Minelayers, that's 5 camo tokens in the mid-field, one of which is a very powerful fighter.

>>53154389
He's no Daofei, but an infiltrating spitfire is always good. Takes a big SWC investment but if you use him right he can definitely be worth it.

>>53154452
Riot Grrls only get MSV1, and they're worse in most FtF rolls because of no camo and no cover after the first kill. Frenzy may be a free order but it is not a good thing on a unit that wants to stay alive.

Taskmaster is great but he's on a whole other price level.

Dunno if it's any good, but THEME LISTS.

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>>53154732
Oops, my image!

>>53154745
> Leon and Daley are Karakuri

Wut. If anything, the AD Police would be the Imperial Service anyways.

>>53154642
>Riot Grrls only get MSV1, and they're worse in most FtF rolls because of no camo and no cover after the first kill. Frenzy may be a free order but it is not a good thing on a unit that wants to stay alive

They only turn impetuous at the start of your next active turn. If you're a bakunin degenerate, you can link them and ignore that completely. They're stupidly good.

>>53154778
Oh I fucked up, reordered the list without reordering the labels.

Leon and Daley are Yojimbo and the Keisotsu medic, the Karakuri are boomers.

>>53154389
36 points and 2 SWC on a 1 wound model. Yeah nah, no thank you.

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>>53154745
> Sylia wears a blue and silver Hard Suit equipped with retractable sword blades in the forearms, laser cannons in the palms and wings for full flight capability.
She would probably be a Shikami so she could use Super Jump for the wings. Tiger Soldier might work too, but the Knight Sabers explicitly use Powered Armor, so 2 wounds is probably more fitting than AD.

> Priscilla's suit becomes a modular core system to which a variety of selective heavy weapons can be attached. In the Crisis series, her Hard Suit also combines with her Motoslave (a motorcycle that transforms into an automated mecha or an exosuit) to combat more-advanced Boomers.
You would probably want a Su-Jian to stand in for her. It has the whole transformer thing going on.

> Linna dons a green Hard Suit equipped with "ribbon cutters" - long, electrically-charged nanomolecular ropes mounted behind the helmet that can be used to slash through Boomers and other high-tech opponents. She is also armed with explosive "knuckle bombers" - explosive charges in the right hand of her hard suit that could deliver devastating blows, as well as a finger-mounted triplet laser gun.
Hard one here, no Yu Jing HI have Monofilament CCWs. Maybe a Neko Oyama proxy since he has an EXP CCW?

> Nene's purple and pink Hard Suit's offensive weapon is a weak laser gun unsuited for taking out enemies; instead, it is used to scribble the Knight Sabers' signature onto their scene of actions. She relies on her suit's computer and electronic warfare systems to stay away from an enemy.
Probably Shang Ji Assault Hacker, it would have been better had he kept the normal HD from the previous edition.

It would require a lot more custom building, but I don't think the other Knight Sabers even had motorcycles besides Priss. Their big thing was their Powered Armor. It is a fun thought exercise, if nothing else.

>>53154866
They're great linked and probably the best value pain train in the game, but a solo Riot spitfire isn't automatically a better option than a Prowler when one has camo+infiltration and the other doesn't.

>>53154957
>I don't think the other Knight Sabers even had motorcycles besides Priss.
That's because you're thinking of 2040 instead of the vastly superior original. They didn't really have super jump, and the armour was only partly powered. I got the weapons to roughly match the originals as well.

>>53154642
Whoops, meant to type MSV1, it slipped. You can understand, right? The numbers are right next to each other.
>>53154732
>>53154745
But Anon, all sectorials are themed lists.

I mean, I occassionally field White Banner troops in a themed pseudo-sectorial list. It helps that Guilang, Daofei, and Tiger Soldiers are so good that it balances out the subpar Zhanshi.

One of these days I'm going to go crazy and field a five Zuyong list.

How comes anytime I write a shasvasti sectorial list, I can basically write 80% of it the same in vanilla and get a better 20% from the various other options.

I love the Shas thematically, but the sectorial seems so weak.

>>53155236
Preaching to the Choir here from what I've seen with most discussions.

I've seen Shasvasti units twice in my local meta, once as an HVT in an onyx list, and other as a Speculo killer in a generic CA list.

>>53155236
That's largely because it is. Loses a lot from vanilla, gains relatively little.

>>53155264
They're missing out. Noct, Sphinx and the infiltrators are top tier. Problem with SEF is they're just as top tier in vanilla as they are in the sectorial, and a bunch of the other Shas units are trash.

>>53155331
Yeah, I'd say I'm intrigued by a lot of their units, but the only link I'd be interested in trying is Sheskin+Gwailos (being tied for the best linked up BS in the game along with having mobile cover intrigues me). Two of those units you mentioned are available in Onyx. The AVA doesn't make much difference to me between all the skirmishers like Aswangs and Speculo Killers.

>>53154866
>>53154642
Riot Grrls are the most capable linked infantry, with 'enough BS', 'enough armor', MSV1 (to make them superior in most important cases to BS14 honestly), and a higher than normal resistance to templates and mines... all while packing on each trooper a heavier than usual, all-range loadout. That may be a specialist.

They're hyper-optimized.

>>53155510
Gwailo links of any kind are pretty decent, or even good. But they're not good enough to justify what you lose going into the sectorial.

There are only 4 AVA increases of note in SEF. Having multiple Noctifers and Speculos is good because Noctifers and Speculos are fuck machines, AVA 4 Shrouded is good because you can populate the midfield with many camo markers, and probably most importantly AVA 2 Q Drones is excellent. Mimetic TR bots are the fucking dream.

How is a Wu Ming with HRL for an ARO piece? I figure its sturdy and has some decent range mods.

Also how about the Zhangying with ML? I figure they'd be good vs MSV2 and smoke combos.

>>53154389
I actually like the spitfire Prowler quite a bit but he has a bullshit 2SWC attached to him that pushes him out of lists. Atleast with the Wildcats I can understand the 2SWC HRL costing that because of link team bonus consideration for balance, but Prowler is shafted. But gripes aside, he is kinda your infiltrating Intruder. Instead of MSV2+smoke, you do White Noise versus MSV and spank most folks in FTF rolls thanks to camo, surprise shot, and starting in your guns fun spot.

Now the specialist Prowler is really good toolbox and camo remover. He can glue things he wouldn't have much luck with, but being able to roll for discover on 14WIP and then intuitive attacking with the flamethrower right afterwards leaves you a pretty damn good camo/skirmisher bully. Plus button pushing if you need him to.

The bioimmunity is kinda whatever, handy if he gets dropped by Shock/viral ammo and you happen have a doctor nearby.

He works best in camo shell games as most people expect a Zero with FO/KHD/Mines. The specialist is the clear winner right now, if the Spitfire was priced like other MI guns at 1.5 SWC you would see it brought out much more frequently.

>>53156330
They are both much better in a wu ming link. I'd not hedge my bets on either in vanilla. I think yj's best aro pieces are raidens, hac tao with missile launcher, the tinbot c yan huo, messenger and escort remote. Although Luna seems effective too thanks to her low point cost and limited camo.

>>53156330
Unlinked? Raiden outshines it in Vanilla, doing extra duty with mind games with the minelayer skill for ten points less (admittedly with less wounds), but it balances that out with a single surprise shot that it can do). The difference between Armor 3 and 4 and BS 12 and 13 isn't that much.

the Wu Ming HRL shines more as an active turn piece, where it can make use of getting uncomfortably close and shooting the LSG, it's even better overall in a link for obvious reasons. Not to say it's not unfieldable out of a link and without consideration of other units like the Raiden. It's just that 11 points and .5 SWC can go a long way with your lists.

Zhanying ML is good, obviously amazing in the Hsien Haris if you want a heavy weapons team.

>>53156235
I wouldn't really call them hyper-optimized. They're kind of unfocused all rounders that are underpriced primarily because of frenzy, which is kind of bullshit but probably even more bullshit on stuff like Magister/Hospitaller teams or Haramaki/Domaru. Actually, the only truly great pain train that doesn't rely on impetuous discounts of some kind is grorious Wu Ming.

>>53156330
>Wu Ming
Decent. There are better things though, like Zuyong ML or the Raiden HRL.

>Zhanying
Not good unlinked. Smoke combos still operate on burst 4 vs burst 1, and with no defensive skills and mediocre stats your boy is going down hard most of the time. Almost all lists have an alternative killer that doesn't rely on smoke combos anyway.

>>53156407
>Atleast with the Wildcats I can understand the 2SWC HRL costing that because of link team bonus consideration for balance
Nah it's still total bullshit on Wildcats.

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If anyone missed it from last thread, here are the new Zoe and PI-Well models.

>>53156727
I completely agree, but I can at least lie to myself as to why the glorious wildcat waifu gets shat on.

Is high points low order ariadna viable?

Like 10 orders with a 5 link of Wulvers or MM?

>>53156859
>ariadna viable
In every format, yes.

>>53156650
>no defensive skills and mediocre stats
also they're not exactly cheap

>>53156859
Yeah, but even with a Minuteman link you'd struggle to only have 10 orders. 12 or so is easier.

So, I just got into the game with some friends, we split the Box that Had Yu Jing and Haqq, I took Haqq. I also bought a Maghariba because the thing was cool, and ordered Leila Sharif. I also bought a bunch of stuff for Ariadna and was wondering if I made a mistake. I seem to have bought for Ariadna mostly "unique" non-grunt models. I think the Metros are my gruntiest. Should invest in some Grunts or Line Kazaks?

>>53156650
>>53156939
>Zhanying
They're great, just don't expect them to do front line fighting. They're there to scare the fuck out of camo. Madtraps+ Sensor or linking with a Hsien murders Ninjas and Poland.

They're a support piece that enables the rest of your army to do things. The only real orders you should be putting into them are positioning madtraps, popping sensor, and setting up triangulated fire. The last only if nothing else can get a better shot.

>>53156820
wut

they don't look nomadic

ALEPH is gaynigguhs

>>53157006
I was referring specifically to the ML version, that's the one anon asked about. They've always been good for sensor, and desu sometimes they're decent in a fight too with that breaker combi. It's one of the nastier weapons you can go into suppressive fire with.

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>>53157033
Oh, reading comprehension fail.
I don't mind the ML, its a good way to round out the Haris with a Hsien. It needs a bit more care to leave out in the open, but is pretty ok. Recently took this to a limited insertion thing as a dedicated anti camo list.

>>53157137
>>53157033
zhanying minis when

>>53157137
Yeah, it's okay linked. I wouldn't take it solo though.

>>53157158
Breaker combi is soon, ML is out in the ISS starter.

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>>53157137
One is in IS Starter, the other is soon (tm)

>>53157002
Shameless bump, and wanting to see if this list viable.
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>>53157006
>>53157033
Truth, that is why you do both! ISS is my recent second faction but I have had some decent success with a Zhany haris with a Hsien laying down hurt and an ML as a big fuck off stick. Also I would like comments on this list, I've done some decent work with it, usually making the KHD kanren look like anything else so opponents think a ninja KHD is around because of how common it is. Madtraps arent koalas but offer a neat tactical avenue. Sophotects get so much mileage, usually way more orders than I would expect. Garudas are just goddamn scary and leave a ninja KHD point cost hole, 1.5 SWC difference is tips savvy people off though.

>>53157023
Brother, was merely a joke, this kind of discourse is common outside of Corregidor. Poor Zoe needs an update as much as the metal potato Szally.

Im cutting off the karkatas legs and sticking on unidron legs to bring up its height to real S2.

>>53157170
>Breaker combi is soon

It's actually a hacker, despite what the label would tell you.

has the visor, has the funny tech backpack, and has the arm band.

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>>53157171
Jinx!

>>53157194
6.5 SWC, you want the green check next to the ITS logo to be green. the army builder automatically checks for legality.

Try again.

>>53157234
Right, thank you. I've been reading and rereading the rules, haven't memorized much.

>>53157224
To be fair, the only profile the Hacker doesnt visibly share with other Breaker Combis is the one with MadTraps.

>>53157224
Yeah but this time I get to pretend that all those things are sensor-related. Hacker models work fine as rifle profiles.

>>53157308
And if you haven't gotten Xi yet, he's a very very solid 20 points in YJ and IS, also comes with traps.

>>53157171
That's all I need. Between that, ML, Hsien, and Guifang Spec Ops cover all the Zhanying bases pretty solidly.

>>53157343
The real question now is which is the CUTEST: FastPandas, Mad Traps, Hector/Overdron buddybots, Tohaamons?

Honorable consideration for Bunnybots and Kittybots. Koala bots are too smug to compete.

>>53157453
TohaaMon, they're so round a cute with their teeny T-Rex arms. Buddybots are a close second though.

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>>53157453
> Swiggity Swooty, I'm coming for that One Woundy

>>53157453
ADDENDUM

Crabbot disqualified for being the defacto spirit animal, CRAB BATTLE resides in us all.

>>53157453
Janissary tinbot is still the best. But from that list I'd say CA tinbots even though I'm still mad that CB packaged the exact same tinbot sculpt into the Suryat box and Overdron box.. They've got a winning smile.

>>53157586
FUCK! I forgot that CUTE buddybot existed!

Thematically Suryats' makes quite a bit of sense though, atleast its not a going to have a guest appearance on the Shining like the Grrl buddybot.

>>53157586
Suryat Tinbot at least has their symbol on his lil shield.

But yea it feels lazy as fuck. Must of the tinbots are kinda whaffles except the ALEPH one. That lil hoplite is OG.

>>53157505
>Look at all that smug

Painting that on my koalas once i make stencils. Across the arm and then on the torso from that angle. Thanks for that line m8

>>53157453
Spotbot and Hector's Tinbot are my favorites

>>53156859
Wulvers are AVA 4, even in CHA. You can fill the link out with Wallace, but that means you're begging to get your obvious lieutenant killed. The biggest issue is that they don't have any burst 4 weapons and only have mediocre BS so you really should be pushing them forward to use that sweet CC 30. They also don't have any specialist options which really hurts in a core link that costs about as much as Joan and the Boys. If I take Wulvers I usually haris them, not only is it less of a commitment points wise, but you can still take that sweet grey+isobel core link with points to spare.

>>53156407
>Atleast with the Wildcats I can understand the 2SWC HRL costing that because of link team bonus consideration for balance
Yeah, but then fucking Muyibs shit all over that with 1 SWC HRL.

Spitfire Prowler is one of the coolest Nomad minis. I'd get him if I switched to Bakunin.

>>53157002
In general it's good to have some basic guys, but in vanilla Ariadna you're limited to two Grunts, as well as only 2 Metros. They provide some cheap orders already though and Grunts you can infiltrate.
I'd get Dozer + Mul Control device and the Traktor Mul box. You can field Traktor Muls as 5pts orders, so with two Metros and maybe a Kazak or Grunt or two you should have enough cheerleaders. Most of Ariadna stuff is so cheap that you're unlikely to run out of orders.

>>53158901
Metros can infiltrate too. Make rather good demolition unita if they pass tje initial roll thanks to d-charges.

I love the fact the devs give a shit about game balance

how many guilang do I need for a yu jing vanila list? And should I be runing monks or Kuang chis for smoke, in vanila. I understant that in ISS Kuangs are better, because they are linked turn 1, but either there also better in vanila ?

>>53160165
I like to put at least 1 Guilang specialist in each list, but 2 also works. 3 can be good as well if one is a minelayer.

Monks and Kuang Shi are both valid options. The Kuang Shi are regular and dogged, but they don't get smoke and must rely on their Celestial Guard controller for it. The Monks have their own smoke so it matters less if one dies, and they can throw it while dodging, but on the other hand they're irregular and impetuous so you must be careful to stop them running in front of a sniper.

Monks can't be taken in ISS at all, so Kuang Shi don't really have any competition there.

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>>53157453
>Koala bots are too smug to compete.
And CA tinbots are not?
>Hey. You. Yes, you there, with the MSV. Fuck you in particular.

>>53160390
Aren't Guilang only AVA 2? Do you have access to the White Banner Sectorial Army list builder I don't know about?

>>53160686
Indeed they are. Shit, not sure how that happened. I must have confused them with Shrouded or something.

Noob question time.
What happens when you run a fireteam of Extreme Impetuous? (Morat Daturazi)
Do they each generate a EI order? I assume so, so does that mean that I have to move the whole team five times towards the closest guy?

Thanks.

>>53161111
They lose extremely impetuous while in a fire team.

>>53161111
No. Impetuousness of any kind, including frenzy, is disabled while in a link team.

>>53161133
derp

thanks.

I run nomads at the moment but I also want to run pano. I currently have the LE Joan and I do like the look of military orders but I like ORC's as well.
Help?

>>53157453
Fatpanda. Always the lil chubby fast panda.

>>53161162
Any military order in particular, or just the sectorial in general?

>>53161228
Something with Joan in

>>53161162
"Are you a a, uh, real hyperpower?"
“Well, uh, technically... nah.”
"Have you ever removed nomads, like, uh, a bandit or zero?"
"Nah."
"Have you ever passed a willpower check?"
"Yeah, totally, every time."
"All right, I see that I will have to teach you how to be a hyperpower.
...
Now listen closely:
Here's a little lesson in Infinity
This is going down in history
If you wanna be hyperpower number one
You will have to shoot your enemies with your gun
Just use your TO camo, and sneak around
Be careful not to make a sound"
[intruder passes discover roll]
(shh)
"Not in front of that!"

>>53161233
Get either Santiagos or Hospitaliers and Fersen. Sergeants box is great too and probably some remotes. Depending how many points ypu have left either a Tech-Bee or a Warcor for the irregular order Joan turns into regular.

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>>53161373
"Ha ha ha
Now look at this drop bear that I just found
When I say go, be ready to throw
Go!
...
Throw it at them, not me.
...
Ugh, let's try something else."
... [with Military Orders]
"Now watch and learn, here's the deal
We'll slice them with this sword that can cut steel!"
...
"Ha, ha, ha, gasp! What are you doing?"

...
[outro]
Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We are Number One ...

>>53161393
I want that figure

>>53161823
If you change your diet and stick to a training regimen it's possible. Certainly easier than getting the Cosplay Bolt mini.

>>53162113
>Certainly easier than getting the Cosplay Bolt mini.
It's still sold if you wanna eat the separate shipping cost.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/279544772/neoterra-bolts-cosplay-edition-figure

What nomad starter pack has the best units/best value?

>>53163021
For vanilla? Icestorm.

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Some highlights from an interview from comicparatodos with Kenny Ruiz over the Manga that I found interesting

>He redrew the page in which Knauf first showed up (the one with his back turned) some fifteen times before he settled on accepting him as a mean personality (he apparently had trouble with this kind of character and normally doesn't redraw pages that often)
>They wanted Domovoi to talk while in Dog form but later realized that they couldn't do that within the rules of the universe so they rewrote the scenes of the battle
>Kenny asked for some advice/second opinions on making the male characters ruggedly attractive to women and less Brutish like Kratos
>Fassbender, especially in his role in MacBeth, was a bit of inspiration for Knauf
>Likes to draw sexy chicks who are trying not to be sexy because he finds that sexy.
>He's collaborating with CB with making illustrations for a project [sounds like Aristeia to me]

>>53163021
Juristictional Command of Corregidor because of the Intruder, Cute Alguacil, and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKniXABsUeE

Although I'm admitedly a bit biased to liking their link so much

>>53163477
Other note, Flipar is his favorite flipping word. It's funny reading non-latino Spanish slang.

>>53163021
If you don't have terrain then icestorm.
If you already have terrain then the vanilla starter box.

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Im trying to build a table on the cheap and need some recommendations on terrain and a mat.

I was looking at black sheep industries and was looking at pic related table set. 125 plus shipping and comes with little scatter stuff too. For mats I'm looking at a frontline gaming mat, since they seem more accessable than the made for infinity ones and people in my area have those already.

Any suggestions on the contrary or should I pull the trigger on it?

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Looks really familiar but I have trouble placing it

Which bald celebrity would you say the sniper Alguacil most resembles?

>>53164057
If I were to get that I'd cut the middleman and get personalized terrain lasercut. Especially since some engraving can be stenciled on, skipping cost, and there are free patterns for various Infinity shit (including containers IIRC).

>>53164223
bruce willis maybe

Has anyone found any use for the Grenzer Sniper? I have mine but I just cannot find a use for him. In five games he has managed to kill two models, and he almost always ends up dead.
It is not like I go full retard either - I keep him back and in cover with a good line of fire and decent fire lanes, etc.
Is there anything I can do with him or should I do a weapon conversion and swap his gun around for something better and less SWC heavy?

>>53164263
I dont know anyone with a laser cutter in my area, and my friend was going to do that but he couldnt get time on it (everyone wants to use it). I thinl 125 for that much terrain is honestly a steal.

>>53164584
Use him as Knauf. Mimetism is greater than armor 3 and BTS 6 anyways and they're the exact same points with the same relevant stats like MSV1 and BS13.

As a different response though, I think he'll be better off in the future with Tunguska. It's current main problem is that it doesn't have defensive mods like other more optimized snipers (intruder chiefly), but in the mean time don't even bother doing a weapon swap, just proxy the other profiles if you feel like it, it's not like any other Grenzer exists, it's generally legal to take an existing weapon load-out to proxy a non-existent one with full disclosure. FO/Sensor with a LFT doesn't seem all that bad. With the high BTS I can see it shining in biotechvore missions, or against opponents you'd be expecting to shoot plenty of viral or bio-munnitions like Tohaa or Haqqislam. It's usually the first model from the starter to be shelved to little use so I don't blame you for doing the same.

>>53165177
I already have knauf, but good suggestion anon.

>>53154389
>General question: Has anyone used Spitefire Prowler much? They look great (statline wise, model isn't bad), but I don't see anyone using them.

I used him all the time in 2nd ed when the Spitfire was +3 in the first range band as well. Infiltrating and wrecking shit up close with 4 shots was fun. 3rd changed that though and gave him a cube iirc which is another unwanted change. Still use him in Bakunin in conjunction with other camo just not as much as I used to.

>>53165720

Is having a cube bad?

>>53167069
It's not terribly useful for an infiltrator, yet opens you up to being sepsitorized.

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>>53157453
>implying there's any choice

>>53164584
Snipers tend to be focused down. It took almost a year for my Nisse to start killing shit.
Try Grenzer ML, that's the better loadout.

>>53164223
It's kinda eerie, how Urena's Infinity stuff looks absolutely fabulous and then the Warmachine stuff is just meh.

>>53161393
Thanks anon, I am now £19 lighter

>>53167888
So do a quick weapon conversion then. After all knauf Is cheaper and better.

>>53167576
That picture gave me diabetes. Far too cute.

whats the most point heavy faction in Ariadna. I'd like to join their ranks but don't want to have to lug around 20 plus models for one list

>>53163477
>>They wanted Domovoi to talk while in Dog form but later realized that they couldn't do that within the rules of the universe so they rewrote the scenes of the battle
Wait, I thought Dog-forms could talk. Nothin in the RPG stops one from talking, but gives a negative mod to Personality.

Also, anyone else read Knauf's lines as Steve Blum in their heads?

>>53170514
Pick another faction.

>>53163477
That comic was SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>>53170514
All of the sectorials can go low model count nd still be decent.

>>53164223

He looks like the executioner from GoT

>>53170514
Pick another faction. It's notoriously hard to make one group lists for Ariadna and if people are not playing Limited Insertion you'll just be gimping yourself.

And if you do play limited insertion, you'll be lugging around werewolves and bikers, so it's not like much would change.

>>53170514
I'd probably avoid CHA, but the others can work fine. Around 12 orders isn't too unusual for Ariadna.

>>53172214
Even with CHA if you run a core + wulver or mormaer haris, you'll be in that neighborhood.

Whats the more fun HI link?

Wu Ming Pain Train or Domaru Death Squad (with Raiden's)

>>53172887
Hiding a domaru LT in a haramaki dual missile defensive link is utterly terrifying.

>>53172887
Wu Ming link is always fresh. You got grenade launchers, you got HMGs, you got FOs, you got tinbots, you got chain rifles, you got mines, you got rocket launchers, you got panzerfausts, you even got the potential for a hacker or missile or a sensor with madtraps. There's many different compositions to try.

Domaru are a bit more boring but their relationship with Haramaki still give them some interesting stuff. Haramaki filler with missiles, lieutenant and/or spitfire is the usual.

>>53167069
>>53167567
It also went against the older fluff in which Prowlers had ports that let them download a copy of themselves before a mission instead of the regular cube backup specifically to counter having their memories hacked for secrets.

>>53172161
>>53170910
I already play yu jing but Ariadna has such a nice aesthetic.

>>53172887
Cranes and CG.
Hsien and Zhanying.
Burst 5 MSV2 HMG is silly good.

>>53172929
>dual missile
>not running the death star at FULL OPERATIONAL POWER.
4 missile or go home.

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>>53174995
Damn right. You weren't using that SWC anyway.

>>53175068
>>53174995
B-But Fairy Dust

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>>53175068
Like this fampai?

Though yeah, I really wanna run a Crane/CG link. It seems sick.

>>53164223
Looks like Mr. Clean

>>53164584
Proxy him as a Zeros sniper? Infiltation+camo with a few other infiltrators to fuck with the enemy.

>>53175068
heactuallydidit.jpg

Srs though, I run 2 domaru, contender/shotgun haramaki, and 2 missiles in JSA. The second domaru both allows you to reform the link if one goes down and hides obvious domaru lt. Neko is also acceptable and is a more obvious lt, but harder to isolate with bts 6.

Alternatively, you can run the spitfire domaru in there if you plan to move them.

>>53175079
AVA 4 KHD Ninjas and YJ Remotes. I don't really bother with Keisotsu Hackers unless I really want a buffed Rui Shi or am squeezing points in vanilla.


>>53175223
I won a Limited Insertion Tournament running this list>>53157137 vs JSA. Sweeping and killing over 100 points of ninjas turn 1 was so satisfying. Chaiyi MVP. Xi is really really good since it gives the link perimeter weapons and fire. You can even toss them out into LOS when the link activates to bait out AROs to get a safe double move.

>>53170951
No anon, you ARE shit

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Got my hand on the PanO Starter and Fusiliers box. I only read the rules for first edition on release, never got to play, we're 2 editions later now... I'm rather excited, I been wanting to try this for years!

Is the Cutter still good? Would the starter+fusilier+cutter be good enough to start?

Started painting, too. I wanted to try using metallics on them. Unfinished mini (still gotta paint the gun, find the eyes and do something with the pads like freehands or w/e)

>>53177815
Cutter is very one dimensional. It eats more than a third of your list for an invisible mecha. I wouldn't really recommend it, but if it gets support it can carry you hard.

>>53177815
Cutter is still excellent. Hella expensive, but one of the best TAGs in the game.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNme7kTNuDA

>>53177858
But the Cutter is so "quintessential Pan-O" and I don't want to play the knights...

>>53177864
Any guide on "how to Cutter" somewhere?

>>53177919
>Any guide on "how to Cutter" somewhere?
1. Hidden deploy it.
2. Wreck shit in Active Turn.
3. Hide or Supp Fire for Reactive.
4. Keep cheerleaders alive.

>>53177919
>Any guide on "how to Cutter" somewhere?

Sneak sneak sneak BANG BANG BANG

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>>53177953
>1. Hidden deploy it.
I was wondering... is there any sort of mind game that can be done with having the cutter hidden from the table for a turn or two? (Can we still do hidden deployment in 3E?)

Or is pic related pretty much how it goes putting Cutter on the table?

>>53177979
You can. But that means you don't have more than a third of your army on the table for more than one turn.

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Hi /tg/,

I've taken the infinity plunge, I am going to use the France faction. I already bought the starter (pic related), what should I get next

>>53178083
You've been duped, that's the Britain faction.

Anyway, a big hitter like an Azra'il, Al Fasid, Ayyar or Maggie, Fiday or Ragik for skirmishing and Saladin.

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>>53178083
A Chasseur. Pic related.

>>53177979
The Cutter is something you want to start shoveling orders into pretty much immediately, but it means the opponent can't position their troops to counter it during deployment, and can't shoot it first turn if they go first.

Cutter takes more than its fair share of orders and is incredible at general purpose murder, but there are still things that counter it or it just can't tackle efficiently, so you'll want to invest some orders in other units too.
It lost its flamethrower and HMGs are now bad at short range, so it is quite weak against disposable short range fuckers that try to tie it up with direct templates or melee. Suppressive fire does some good work here, but you'll want a little more. MSV2 being able to cut through the smoke they throw down is useful.
Hacking is actually worth shit now, and it ignores that nice -6 to hit Cutters have. An assault hacker can force you to piss away orders by immobilizing your robot, or even worse cut it off from your order pool by isolating it. Unhackable hunting units and your own hacking networks are valuable for countering this.
It's not particularly good at anti-camo either. It can shoot at camo units okay, but it's no good at discovering them. You'll want sensor, MSV or direct templates to actively reveal and/or murder camo units.
TAGs recently got specialist-robots they can deploy, but they're still not very good at taking objectives that require specialists. You need stuff like infiltrators or drop troops to do that efficiently.

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New Scots shown on BoW.

>>53178352
The wulver looks soooo....not great.

Also the guns are so oddly scaled. I guess that's a T2 but what the fudge.

Love the kiltsmen though. And the moramer or whatever is quite nice.

>>53178083
>France faction
>But wait those are muslims..
Oh you.

Get the buns girl >>>53178242
also the Al Fasid with the rocket launcher is p gud and a sway mini.

>>53178352
I'm less than thrilled by these, it has to be said. I wanted my kilt-girl :(

>>53178913
Caledonia: Where the men wear skirts and the women wear pants.

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>>53178913
>>53178929

>>53178472
I think the Wulver looks better in the video.

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>>53178352
That highlander grey belongs on a romance novel cover. Looks like Fabio with a beard and red hair with the way it catches the breeze.

Also I feel like there should have been one more female in the set, five out of six being guys is a bit too much for me.

Interesting to see the dedicated paramedic profile

>>53178083
Captain Canuckistan. Pic related. [I messed up the star a bit and having the red over the white background makes it look like the Maple Leaf]

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So are the male volunteers using the same base body mold?

>>53179980

I don't think so. They have satchels on different sides.

>>53178083
should probably wait for the auction to end before you congratulate yourself. but you've gotten some good advice already

>>53180057
>should probably wait for the auction to end
Now I wanna bid on that just to troll him.

>>53178352
Are they updating the whole range?

>>53180554
Rumble on Route 66 showed a bunch of Dossiers of Volunteers in a SWC box, this starter, and Mormaers. Seems more like a minor update to the CHA range by providing a starter rather than an overhaul.

A lot of what was previewed has already been released
http://imgur.com/a/ypJGG

But the major things missing are the Danavas, Ayyar, and Shikami. Danavas seems to be coming up soon with a release with the Aleph Remote Ancillary unit that stole the Crabbot's knife.

>>53180554
New starter, volunteer special weapons box, and I think there was mention of a grey box (probably the most needed addition)

>>53180554
Yes.
within the next decade or so

>>53180013
>>53179980
They clearly are.

It's been a long while. How would you rate Outrage out of ten?

>>53181924
I'd give it a 7.
Great story with original characters when they could've taken the easy route and used already known ones, but they killed off some characters a bit too early for my liking and the ending felt a bit..I wanna say rushed, but I'm not sure if that's right.

>>53180554
No. They'll update things until the point you really want to start that faction. Then move on. Like Bakunin or ISS

Or they'll update everything except for things you may need/want. Like USARF, SP, MAF

Finally they'll repack old garbage together with a brand new coat of paint.

>>53182283
>Finally they'll repack old garbage together with a brand new coat of paint.
SAS double blister incoming

>>53178292
I was thinking supporting Cutter with the Nisse Sniper and have some REM support for the repeaters and just because the little robots are drop dead gorgeous.

What's a good all around Pan-O hacker beside the knight character? Can there still be coordinated/teamwork hacking with the EVO remote (because that could help mitigate the craptastic WIL if I recall correctly)?

Is... is the Fusilier Hacker able to do anything? I like the model and I already own that one. Alternatively I was thinking maybe the Akalis could be hacker?

>>53182595
EVO hacker REM Mulebot - only thing that allows you to use coordinated hack.
Hexa with KHD.

I use Akal hacker, however he's very low tier on the hacker scale.

Fusilier is okey, if you want to run supportware.

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New pre-painted terrain from Bandua. Among other things it implies that Nomads are Aliens to be reported (which isn't exactly wrong mind you, there are a lot of space Mexicans up there)

>>53184294
>Nomads are Aliens to be reported
This is canon.

Now we can remove them from O-12.

>>53180998
>>53180998

Yea watch the video. They have different parts on the left and right sides depending on the model.

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>>53184294
>>53184381

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>>53184482

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>>53184549
Had to wade through pages of Smagg's furry content to make this reaction pic.

I liked it.

>>53178929
>Caledonia: Where the men wear skirts and the women wear pants.

Well pants only have room for two legs.

Quoting someone else on this

>>53181924
6.5/10
I really loved it, but the story felt rushed and the way half the team got slaughtered right off the bat was kind of silly.
Still, a good read.

>>53184969
I specifically collected them all here so you wouldn't have to do that http://adhadh.deviantart.com/gallery/61870406/Infinity-Strips-Rolling-Guts

If I had the money I'd just make a separate domain for my comics and host them all in one place.

>>53186973
>If I had the money I'd just make a separate domain for my comics and host them all in one place.
Hostforweb starts at like $2.50 a month.

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Bumping, and sharing a very aleph-esque pic from /pfg/ (and Furi beyond that).

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So what's the interaction with prone and camo?

If you're prone are you still S2 because you're following the S value printed on the profile, or are you the size of the base?

>>53177979
That comic is exactly why I stopped playing infinity.

>>53188517

a prone camo marker is size 0

>>53188803

Disliking the core mechanic that makes Infinity different from every other wargame is a pretty good reason to stop playing.

Thanks for stopping by.

>>53188803
Thanks for the input champ.

>>53189215
>Disliking the shitty mechanic that makes Infinity crap

ftfy

I'm new to infinity and am having a bit of a choice paralysis. I have the starter for Pan O from Operation Ice storm, as well as the support pack for the doctor and engineer. I also have a Jotum. I love the model and Like the huge robot aspect of the game.

But I'm new and have no idea how to build a list or figure out what I should start picking up to capitalize on the strengths of the Jotum or minimize his weakness.

Could I request some assistance from the infinity-bros in coming up with a 300 point all comers list?

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>>53188803

>>53189658
ty that made my effort worth it :)

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Someone kept asking if anyone had painted their fat yaun yaun yet, I said I'd post mine when I did, I started him tonight, got maybe 2 hours in.

>>53189492

Infinity is a game about objectives, more so than any other game. Remember that the Jotum's job is to efficiently clear the way for your specialists, not to mow down the entire enemy force (unless you're playing annihilation, that is). The Jotum's biggest weakness is getting pelted by AP HMGs or hit by AP+EXP ammo at bad ranges; adhesive ammo is also deadly (I've had Corregidor Bandit killer hackers walk up, immobilize a Jotum, pelt them with missile launchers, and then steal its Heavy Flamethrower). You should also worry about getting possessed by hackers in the active turn.

The Jotum has Remote Presence which means he's able to be healed by an engineer even if the Jotum still has wounds left; this is good seeing as you have the engineer.


PanOceania
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10
JOTUM MULTI HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, D.E.P. / . (2 | 103)
CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. (0)
MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
NISSE MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
CRUSADER MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
ORC HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 44)
6 SWC | 298 Points

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R8 my list please.

>>53190021

Auxilia are a must have in any list that can field them. Taking them as FOs gives you specialists and the auxbots are amazing at protecting corners. The Fusilier Hacker is most just there for classifieds and in case your Jotum becomes possessed; you could replace him if you wanted. The ORC is a backup assault piece in case you can't move your Jotum, it's also a decent defensive piece to protect your order pool (he can also be replaced). The Crusader Brethren is a favorite of mine, he excels diving in and removing troublesome missile launchers and AP HMGs, as well as going after order pools. The Nisse is your main MSV piece against camouflage markers and protecting your Jotum in the reactive turn.

Base list: Jotum, Engineer, Palbot, 3 Fusiliers, Auxilia
Alternatives: Sierra Dronbots, Aquilla Guard, Guarda de Assaulto, Croc Man (Minelayer and Forward Observer)

>>53189743
Looking fabulous. Hope to see it finished.

>>53190172
>Auxilia are a must have in any list that can field them
I'd agree with this if they just weren't so fucking hideous.

>>53188803

>not knowing how to handle a Cutter
>in 2017

>>53190172
NCA with Auxilia spam and a Devabot LT. Make it happen.

>>53189743
Person asking. Thanks. Looks Jovial.

I just had a game where I spent about 10 orders spec firing. Dirtiest I have ever felt playing this game. My dice rolled pretty well and I ended up killing an entire link and a few more models.

>>53192309
Were you at least using FO so it felt tactical instead of just being grenade spam?

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Got a Sophotect for ISS.

I plan to paint her as Washu and her Yudbots as Cabbits and no one can stop me from posting pics when I do.

>>53193974
Kind of lacking in the crazy hair game.

>>53194035

But she's a doctor and an engineer.

>>53154078

Yeah, well, the guys at Rumble think you can synch civilians with impetuous units, so don't take their judgment seriously. Total immunity doesn't say it makes you immune to T2, it says you're immune to standard ammunition, and then gives a list, which includes T2. T2 was changed to exotic in HSN3.

Probably what happened was one of the TO's buddies Total Immunity models was being shot with a T2 weapon, so he ruled it that way, and would have done it the other way if the player positions had been reversed.

>>53190256
That's why I was so glad that Order Sergeant box came out. Now I just need a second Auxbot from Cho.

>>53189353
Are you the same retard that said that ARO is unrealistic mechanic?

>>53194832
I use Peacemakers. They're pretty good themselves and can donate their auxbot to an Auxilia proxy if required.

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Sup dudes

I was just mukkin about on army 6 when I came up with this. Thoughts? Please excuse the pdf, 4chan thinks it's spam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ7hXMLxGc

Got my copy of the manga. I like the art translation could have been better.

>>53197131
Peacemakers are my favorite bot.

>>53198271
Are you aware of the existence of bulleteers?

Peacemakers are pretty much all or nothing suicide units on top of turn1. Or if you're able to actually hide it, counterpunch on bottom of turn1.

Basically, the exact same role as your usual light AD trooper, and should be treated as such.

Spitfire Bulleteers are the mechanized master warrior race that PanO has the limit to 2 per army to prevent their robot revolution from toppling ALEPH.

>>53200789
People always say Nomads have the best remotes. They are so wrong.

>>53200839
Nomad bots get increased usefulness out of their repeaters. A Bulleteer cannot drop White Noise. However it does win in raw power.

>>53201378
The only usefulness Bulleteer-sama needs is when it calls for it's pitiful hacker manservant to feed it more targeting data so it can 360 noscope marksmanship2 people in the head.

>>53200839
>>53200839
Meteor Zond+Salyut EVO+Vertigo Zond is a great combination though. AD with +3 and Satlock with no negative MOD to call in bombardments. Plus you can generally buff the Vertigo Zond's SML to have B2 in the reactive phase.

>>53197860
The Russian sectorial should get some sort of Bear.

>>53201590
I don't dispute that, but it's 3 SWC.

>>53201378
Have to agree. In terms of raw terrorize your opponent, Pan O and Yu Jing attack remotes tend to be more effective. The Tsyklons pay a lot for the extra armor, C+, and 360/xvisors.

That said, Pi Well is one dirty mofo.

>>53197860
>haha look at me guys I spammed one single unit
Leave.

>>53202615
IMO Tsyklons are trash. They pay a lot for average stats combined with a heavy weapon--- which could have just been a human carrying a Spitfire or HMG or something instead.

Lunokhods are great though. Lots of utility.

>>53193728
No, the entire game was:
>fiday pop out shoutgun 3 bagh mari in a line kill 2.
>hunzakut spec fire kill a sensor remote.
>al fasid HMG down a regular.
>he moves up a guarde de assaulto
>a ghazi EMs it on its impet order and the hunz kills it.
>the other 8 orders of turn 2 were spent on the fasid spec firing to kill 4 regulars.

To be fair it was only 200 points annihilation, but essentially wiping him on my turn 2 was really dumb.

>>53200789
Peacemakers are best defensively, I find. Hide them somewhere they can't be outranged and shoot/roast/hack anyone who gets close. Enhanced reaction gives both shotgun and flamethrower burst 2.

>>53204235
Spitfire is pretty trashy, but the feuerbach is solid as an ARO platform. Climbing plus lets them reach good positions and their visors are useful. Enhanced reaction or overclock gives them respectable burst and they have anti-tank potential that Sin Eaters don't.

RPG core book has been updated with the Nomads chapter.

>>53206310
They cost more than a TR bot and aren't as good in ARO. :(

>>53197860
>Thoughts?
ASS will run through you like a hot knife through butter.

>>53208009

Where.

>>53210145
The same place it's been the whole time. Last link in the OP.

>>53210157

This will probably seem like a question that has been asked many times, but are the Nomads Ousters, and not the TechnoCore false flag Ousters.

How do I run a Hac Tao centered list without getting fucked by MSV units and Camo units?

>>53210467
Aggressive LT (daofei probably) then after the opponent deals with it pop it up with executive order to get max value of LT orders.

Alternately it's either an amazing button pusher/HMG unit. It's not as great as the swiss guard in pano as yu jing has good button pushes/killer hackers in ninjas as well as cheap offensive power in the yan hao, but it still is great at filling the niche that it does.

>>53210467
Grab an anti-camo unit and a long range unit not vulnerable to MSV. Or just chance it with the Hac Tao, even without the -6 to hit a BS14 HMG in good bands will fuck up an MSV2 sniper, especially with surprise shot.

>>53210643
Hac/Dao tag teams are so fucking fun. They make the EO skill worthwhile all by themselves.

>>53210205
Nomads are Ousters mashed with all the weird anarchy shit that general Cyberpunk themes entail. The guys at Corvus freely admit that Hyperion has a lot of influence on the setting.

>>53210643
>>53210902

I'm a little confused on how Executive orders work.

So what you're saying is you deploy Hac Tao as Hidden Deployment with a offensive piece as Lieut, then spend turn one pumping 8-9 orders into the lieut going rambo and if it dies reveal your Hac Tao as a TO marker so it becomes lieutenant?

So what happens if the enemy kills the dummy lieutenant on their active turn? Do you just pray you get a chance to ARO?

>>53210976
Basically.

If you are afraid of your LT being chopped, have a model on overwatch. Declare Alert and reveal Hac Tao.

>>53211199
Good guy anon

>>53211199
>>53210902
>>53210643

I might try this with my Zuyong HMG Automedket Lieutenant.

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>>53190139
Marut + Smoke

Evening all.

I'm going to be going up against a tag heavy list (jotum and squalo) soon and I just wanted to get your thoughts on this list I made to counter it.

Force de Réponse Rapide Merovingienne
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GROUP 1 9 / 1 / 1
BRISCARD Lieutenant Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
BRISCARD Paramedic (Medikit) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
BRISCARD (Forward Observer) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
BRISCARD Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
BRISCARD Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
EQUIPE MIRAGE-5 . (2 | 69)
MARGOT AP Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (37)
DUROC 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon. (32)
DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)

GROUP 26
ZOUAVE Rifle, D.E.P., E/Mauler / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
ZOUAVE Rifle, D.E.P., E/Mauler / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
CHASSEUR Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
MÉTRO Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
MÉTRO Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
MÉTRO Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)

6 SWC | 300 Points

>>53212384
Briscards aren't the best link for your purposes, they have no AT capability at all. I'd recommend either Moblots with panzerfausts/AP rifles, Metros headed by Bruant, or Loup Garous with viral rifles/ADHLs.

Margot and Duroc are a great choice, they're useful for both fucking up cheerleaders and doing anti-armour work. The Chasseur could do well if it manages to get behind a TAG for sticky fun, but I wouldn't count on it. I prefer linked Loup Garous for glue gun work. Zouaves are useful for their E/Maulers, but I wouldn't count on them either against BTS9.

>>53163477
Holy shit, that 90's western manga-attempt style, that dialogue. Amazing cringebomb.

>>53212666
Thanks for the tips! The main thought was that going after the cheerleaders would be the best idea, with the briscards acting to target them as the main target. E/maulers would mean I'm rolling against 5 at worst against the jotum, with the squalo becoming 3 against it. briscards seem to be the best I have (models wise) to deal with their job as a HK unit. I'll be glad when they bring out moblot boxes...

Help out some newer players.

So buddy and I have started playing, been a couple of months now. I am playing Yu Jing, he's playing Combined.

Under /tg/ advice, I purchased and run 4 Kuang Shi + Controller in most of my lists. Are those things broke? At first, we thought it was just the newness of it, just like the first time I ran a Tiger Soldier...until we figured out how to counter him, he seemed like a holy terror.

But man, the Kuang Shi constantly perform. They always trade up and seem nuts for 5 points. Yeah, I know Extreme Imp. but that seems to be ok to play around (I run a monk too, he moves up, smokes as first Imp. if they will be exposed).

Like last night, I had a Kuang Shi move up, Chain Rifle 3 guys, kills 2. He misses his shot, as the other two dodged. I then move up, Chain Rifle another 2. He gets shot, goes Dogged. He moves up and coup de graces...etc.

For 5 points. Just seems nuts.

>>53212821
They still have most of the usual warband weaknesses. Outrange them, mine them, use templates, send other warbands at them and don't pack all your dudes into an area where a chain rifle can hit 5 people with 2 orders. Not to mention MSV snipers ignore smoke, a lot of heavy units ignore chain rifles (if he doesn't have a Charontid, Anathematic or Sogarat tell him to get one), and any active turn threat will cut through them like a hot knife through already hot butter.

You think they're mean take a look at Ghazi from Haqq. They're not regular, but they get their own smoke, an E/M template for instantly removing HI and TAGs, and the unique ability to isolate people through fucking walls.

>>53212821
>Are those things broke?
They don't have Smoke Grenades or Jammers, so no.

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>>53157481
>>53157586
>>53157851
>>53160548
>>53161171
>>53169607

>>53213007
>>53213044

Ok, just feel bad watching them run stuff over. Felt a bit strong and we want fair games.

Speaking of Haqqislam, other friend is getting into that faction. Any suggestions on must haves or a good 300 pt list?

>>53213419
Suggestions or must haves [partially assuming you've got the starter]
>Hassassin Fiday (Boarding Shotgun's the best looking one IMO)
>Muyib HRL
For Generic Haqqislam:
>Hunzakut (the chick sold in a blister)
>Remotes
>Saladin if you're supplementing the starter because the Khawarij is a terrible Lt and it also helps supplement Fidays
For both QK and Generic
>Al Hawwa
>Djanbazan(s) [especially the HMG]
>Hafza [for mind games and/or to generally hide Saladin with a decoy]
>Bashi Bazouk SMG
Make sure to distinguish a Ghulam a bit for a Doctor, I call the guy carrying a Knife "Doctor Knife who'll save your life"
If you don't have the starter, get some Ghulams or Naffatun for cornergurads (or glorified Cheerleaders feeding orders to the real guys) and your choice of heavy power pieces like the Jannissary HMG, Al Fasid, Azrail, or Hassassin Ayyar (proxy until the model comes out in like two or three months)

>>53214080
no ghazi?

>>53214135
Dude wants fair games apparently.

>>53214172

Not for that buddy :) He is new and I want him to steamroll me. I don't play Haqq, I am the Yu Jing player.

If Ghazi are stupid good, let me know and I'll get him some.

>>53214182
Letting you know. Ghazi are stupid good, with an emphasis on stupid.

>>53214182
>He is new and I want him to steamroll me
L-lewd.

But yeah Ghazi are real good. One of the few examples of straight up bullshit in Infinity imo. They're a 5 point warband that can engage any target conveniently with chain rifle+e/marat, have both smoke and dogged for defence, and can cripple troops through walls. Kuang Shi are among the best warbands in the game, but they still pale in comparison.

>>53211416
Do you see any problems with the rest of the units? I'm wondering if i should mix and match the myrms and thorakitae better.

>>53214259
Crazy thing is Kuang Shi are LI but play like dope Warbands. Makes them more decent for narrative or campaign style play. Does nothing else for them otherwise I know.

>>53216266
Yeah, but desu if it looks like a warband, plays like a warband and runs into sniper fire like a retard then it's probably a warband.

Help, someone stop me!

I just built two 18+ order lists with ISS: one with a Wu Ming pain train, and the other with a Crane posse and double Husong.

>>53216773

What's your Crane posse look like

>>53178083
france faction its in the freezer right now, you will have to wait for acheron falls rule book