/WFG/ Warhammer Fantasy General

>>52984010

I didn't say it wasn't successful, I said it was a bad game.

To be honest though it hasn't really been that successful, GW's sales haven't increased and I imagine if it had to stand on its own two feet like Fantasy did in 1983 it would have fell flat.

>>52985005
Its not a bad game actually, it just has one of the single worst stories in tabletop gaming and is one of the worst sequels in gaming history, in which I include /v/ works.

It also is one of the worst PR moves towards an existing fanbase that has ever occurred as well.

Its not a bad game. But they fucked everything else up trying to get it onto the market.

>>52985005
Kids like bad things anyway so why bother

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Nth for Stompin' Cobb

>>52985877
And it doesn't even have one of the worst stories ever. The story is okay, and I always felt that the story was one of the weakest sides of Warhammer anyway.

One point is clear: they shit the bed big time with the release and their treatment of the fanbase. That's basically it.

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>>52984963
Reposting this homebrew. I've run out of ideas for marks and would like some help coming up with more.

So, I am an old 6th edition player who recently got interested after dusting off my old books and armies. But, looking at some of the cool stuff that was added in 7th and 8th I came to wonder if any of you had come up with quick and dirty back-engineering for new units to 6th or earlier.

This is mostly because I was a Chaos Dwarf player and am stiff as a board after seeing the forgeworld dwarfs

>>52985877
>It also is one of the worst PR moves towards an existing fanbase that has ever occurred as well.
>Its not a bad game. But they fucked everything else up trying to get it onto the market.
which is why it tickles my funny bone to see how GW is tip toeing around the rules updates for 40k now.
Releasing them via slow drip day after day, with the mantra of 'this isn't AoS, it's still totally 40k, I swar'.

At least they learned from it.

>>52987356
Can't really help too much, since I'm not that familiar with that pantheon.
However I can suggest looking at the RuneRPG.
Player characters were able to gain boons from nordic gods for their heroics. Mostly combat oriented, though. But several pages of them for different gods.

On a related note I also feel that the sacrifices could use more variety. Though considering that the first 'boon' on the first table just makes you dumber there also doesn't seem to be a clear distinction.
Assuming marks are supposed to be boons, as in advantages or gifts granted by their patron gods.

Seems weird that you would sacrifice something and then sacrifice something else, effectively fucking you over.
Unless that was the idea.
No idea what the context of your homebrew is though.

>>52984963
So, undead lustria player here, and I had a question;

Would a black magister from the Amythest Order who has become a Necromancer be more capable than that of a hedge mage necromancer? Or those who learned the arts from say a vampire or book?

>>52988124
>Would a black magister from the Amythest Order who has become a Necromancer be more capable than that of a hedge mage necromancer?
Only if the guy from the Amethyst Order has more experience to begin with. There is nothing that should make him inherently better at spellcasting.
The only thing that would make you better at magic by default is being an Elf.
A autodidactic Necromancer of 20 years is still gonna be likely more powerful than a guy who was trained in a magic college but only has a few years of experience. He might be quicker to pick up on the new disciplines of magic though.

I'd think of it like learning a new instrument. If the two guys start at the same time, the guy who already knows how to play something else probably has an advantage. Otherwise all bets are off.

>>52988124
Maybe not power-wise because that's more about natural talent than other stuff.

But a trained wizard has much more control than a self-taught necromancer, even with the guide of a book

>>52988124
More than a hedge mage necromancer, definitely - their traditions are only passed down orally, and they don't have a strong sense of what they're actually doing. An Amythest Order wizard would know about the winds of magic, about magical theory, and how to best cast spells.

More than a necromancer that learned from a book or vampire, though, that's hard to say. I gotta assume your Amythest Order necromancer picked up some necromancy knowledge, probably from a book, so they'd technically know a little more than the average book necromancer. But a vampire might have his own juicy secrets to share with a potential pupil - or ones that he'd keep to keep the necromancer under his thumb. Hard to say.

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Do dwarfs value the beards between their groins too?
What about dwarfen women?

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>>52988553
Man o War had(and has) some really great ship designs, namely the Bretonnian and Empire rosters, also the Dwarfen ships, but some are just silly, like the Chaos and all Elven ships.

I much prefer the more elegant shape of Elven Ships over the silly looking castles on kites/seadragons.

Favourite WFRP2e character you've created?

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>>52988339
>>52988310
>>52988304
Thanks for the input! I want my Necromancer to be a Black Magister, and a Ex-Amethyst wizard. The lore behind her is that after having beginning experiments into the art of Necromancy, and investigating into the state of ghouls, she was ousted from the academy, and chased across the Old World by the College and its minions. She tried to escape to a colony in Lustria, only for her ship to fall prey to the Sirens, and crash into the vampire coast. Although written off as dead by the College, she survived the eventual route, as had stowaway below the decks. When the time came for the zombies to collect the dead, she was able to wrestle for control over them, only to be knocked unconcious by the Vampire sent to oversee them. The vampire, seeing potential, brought the Necromancer along with him on his way back to his master.

There she met the Vampires master, Luthor Harkon, who in one of his saner moments, decided to endorse her as one of his minions. In return for supplyling Luthor a steady supply of fresh corpses, and helping find a way to cure his condition, she would be given free range to explore the ruins of Lustria, and helped versed in the dark arts of Necromancy.

Here's the full army shot, I'll go into further details if yall want. Keep in mind, the Skeletons and Skinks are still WIP, and a lot of it still needs to be based.

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>>52989055
Pictured here are my
From Left to Right:

Lord Xizilbitzic, the lost(Carin Wraith)
"Lady" Ophelia Edsuhle(Master Necromancer)
Lord Tarkith Von Estrude(Von Carstein Necromancer)

Not pictured: Elbricht Urzurgi(Wight King)

>>52989041
Karrik Elazorsson, a Dwarf Shieldbreaker hailing from Karaz-A-Karak, travelling the Empire searching for his uncle Borgun Stonefinger, who took the Slayer oath. His mission was to find his uncle and tell him that his name has been cleaned and he can go towards death with a clear conscience

A pretty typical dwarf at least, ended up being the force that held the party together, always ready to bicker with others not understanding human metaphors, and always ready to afce the enemy in the first line.
Karrik boasts the uncanny feat to be the greatest shieldmaster of the all, once managing to fend off three chaos warriors without being hit once.
He also stuck and improbable friendship with the party's elf wizard, since the elf was kinda particular having lived more among human than elves, the dwarf even forced him to teach him how to read and write because he wanted to write home

Not a special character per se, but i loved him to bits and loved playing him. His stubborness and willingness to take on the hardes punishments was kind of a virtue for the party as a whole, so much that the other members of the team created our unofficial motto "The Dwarf forward, the others backward"

>>52989055
>>52989205
looks good senpai

>>52989205
You should try thinning your paints, either with water or paint thinner (which is better than water if you can afford it), makes the paint go on way smoother, saves paint, and looks better because it isn't nearly as thick. Watch a YouTube video or look up the proper ratio

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>>52989205
Cold Knights(Black Knights)

Made from Black Knight, Cold one Rider, Griffon Knights and Rough Rider bits. Probably my favorite unit so far. Something about Skeletons riding Zombie Dinosaurs just tickles me greatly.

Lorewise, I cant decide their origin, aside from the Cold Ones being undead for better control. Considering their heavy Empire influence though, I would say that the riders themselves were Empire knights, who came to one of Ophelia's "harvest" towns, and fell in battle. Impressed by their resilence in combat, she had them reanimated in part of a experiment. Sorry about the flash, but things are getting darker around these parts now.

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can someone post examples from all 8 imperial Lores?

this is Celestial I think, lore of Heavens.

>>52989413
Looks ok but like I said you would benefit greatly if you thinned out your paints. Saves time and money and looks a lot better in the end

>>52987932
The Warhammer Fantasy system is a bit different. Rolling doubles, triples, quadruples or more for your casting roll causes you to roll on a table for Wrath of the Gods. One of the possibilities is having to make a sacrifice which is dependent on which god you serve but the sacrifices for 6 of the gods are missing.

The marks system is separate from that sacrifice, if you roll 11, 22, 33, etc. when rolling for Wrath of the Gods, you get a Mark from that god, which the fluff describes as making you closer to that god. Not all of these marks are positive effects, the first 3 are usually penalties.

>>52989803
also, if anyone can get lore snippets about the corresponding Wizardry School.

I love the Idea of Wizards basically being the Scientists of the Empire in peacetime. Getting into trouble with the various Churches about the Nature of the Universe.

>>52989226
Nice, how did his story end?

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>>52989803
That's a Light Wizard

Here are some Bright Wizards

>>52989887
Bright Wizards look so fucking hardcore.

>>52989828
Could you post some videos? Or examples? I woukd really appreciate it!

>>52989976
Warhammer TV is a surprisingly good channel for tutorials, mainly because Duncan (the guy who hosts most of the videos on the channel) is a great painter. If I were you I'd start with his earlier videos, I'm not sure which exact one he goes over thinning paints but I'm sure you'll find it pretty easily

>>52985877

It's a shit game aimed at the lowest common denominator, the SBG was better for a start and that was made at GW!

>>52987414

I too, would be interested in this to use demi-gryphs.

>>52988553

Are you the guy who keeps making threads on Dwarf sexual habits?

>>52990375
It was at release, the Compendium made it better. I won't argue that.

But they shit the bed so bad on PR that I won't touch it on principle.

Like Konami and Comcast. There's only so much you can do before you're dead in the eyes of the public.

>>52989803
>>52989887

Yeah it's a light wizard, the colour scheme and the cobra head staff are the giveaways.

A celestial wizard would normally be dark blue with a hint of red and have some form of astronomical equipment.

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>>52990569
what?

whens 9th edition so i can get into this game

>>52988553
Since when do elves have fangs?

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>>52984963
Does anyone have any houserules they use when playing WGFRPG2? Anything you feel is necessary, or just fun?

I have a couple, but one of the ones I like is something stolen from Dark Heresy 2:
>On a damage roll, one may elect to replace the number rolled with the degrees of success on the attack roll in question.

I also have a few "optional," modes for when my players feel like something dangerous:
>"Hard," Mode: Toughness Bonus is considered in Soak but Wounds as halved.
>"Heroic," Mode: Toughness Bonus is considered in Soak but no Wounds; any damage that gets through Soak go to the Crit Chart.
>"Legendary," Mode: Toughness Bonus is NOT considered in Soak and no Wounds; any damage that gets through Soak go to the Crit Chart.
Yeah, the difficulty names are based on Halo's difficulty names, but I figured whatevs, bro.

>>52987356
Post that weapon one again, I forgot to save it before closing my browser.

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>>52991476

>>52991401
since they went edgy

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Defend this.

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>tfw reading inferno! number 4's story about a band of adventures getting venerated as gods by skinks on a small island
>one of them adopts a skink and calls it froggo

all those retardedly cute skinks
all those bloody deaths

>>52991978
Looks like something out of Greek myth. Or Tony Ackland's old Chaos Mutants.

Doesn't really need defending, although I wouldn't buy one.

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>>52988439
This picture is shit. Why is it posted so often when there's so many better high elf illustrations?

>>52991978

He looks like he can defend himself.

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>>52989803

Any idea on how Creative Assembly should approach the Chaos Dwarfs?

Warmachines and Orc/Goblin meat shields? Rare combat units of Chaos Dwarfs like Infernal Guard sprinkled in? Decent magic wielders (who slowly damage themselves)?

I'm thinking a good way to represent the low number of Chaos Dwarfs is reducing the unit sizes. So while a normal unit may have 60 models, a CD unit may have 30.

>>52992049
I like both.
Wish we had the one you posted in color though.

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>>52991978
That is grudging, manling.

>>52990517
From the silence we may have to do it ourselves friend. Ill look through the books and either do something or lose hope. Good luck!

>>52985877

>It also is one of the worst PR moves towards an existing fanbase that has ever occurred as well.

This reminds me of how people on Warseer seriously said that AoS would be taught in business schools as an example of failure. Even if it didn't turn around it still wouldn't be taught because GW doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

>>52987740

They're doing the slow drip to build up excitement and basically have something to say since it's doubtful they're going to have any huge releases for 40k or AoS.

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>>52990028
>I'm not sure which exact one he goes over thinning paints but I'm sure you'll find it pretty easily

kek, literally all of them

Hey guys would you guys play a shittly made rpgmaker game about a tilien boy and how he becomes a rat catcher (after some very painful reveals)? Him and his dog are going into the sewers of the city to find the truth
I know the stigma of the software, and I don't have any real exepriance but this summer I'm only taking one class and I have plenty of time, I also have dedicated myself to gming a lot of long term games and feel I can see tis short game to completion

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>Hey anon!
>I found a way to have a Zombie Dragon AND a Terrogheist!

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>>52996666
First of all, fukken CHECKED for satanic quads.

Secondly; Is the Black Coach actually a solid model, being a singular chariot?
Or does it simply get held back for 2-3 turns powering up before fizzling out like a candle in the rain?
>I ask because I'm considering buying it.

>>52984963
When you guys run games, are there any lore changes you put in place? Any post-Storm of Chaos things you prefer or make up yourself?

>>52991978
It's fucking hilarious.

>>52993753
I think for all it matters you can use the 8th edition army books when playing 6th edition, it's not like they were balanced for 8th edition neither.

>>52992049
what's the problem with it? It's a perfectly fine Phoenix Guard illustration.

You just couldnt resist huh ?

>>52998029
>>52998029

>that 40k announcement
oh boy, it has all the signs of another End Times. I don't wanttobe a cunt but those 40kids kinda deserve their setting going to shit for how they gloated and ridiculed the end of Whfb. Now they will know a fracture of our pain. I hope they enjoy Age of Emperor.

>>52998074
they look like they are getting the good version of the end times desu senpai

>plot moves
>things partially end
>more things get introduced
>goalpost gets moved instead of declaring a winner

>>52998120
that's how end times started off.
I remember being optimistic. What fools we have been.

>>52998159
the end times started off with the utter annihilation of the tomb kings

40k end times started off with the destruction of one imperial fortress world; the equivalent would be if nagashizzar"s army conquered a pair of nehekarian cities in the north and simply achieved the mcguffin of having the black pyramids move.

>>52998196
the scale in the settings isn't compareable, even if things start off slow there's no way telling where it will stop.

Lets not forget the raging erection GW has for Abbadons phallic discharge, retconning 15 years of dark crusades to his favour.

>>52990028
>mainly because Duncan is a great painter
While I've only glanced at a few videos aside from his Custodes one, I think you're underselling him a bit.

Anyone can be a great painter, but he's like the Bob Ross of Games Workshop, painting happy little Boltguns while he teaches us how to make our models look awesome. Because his tips and tutorials really helped me become better at painting.

>>52998196
>wot is fenris

>>52998241
attacked to get a mcguffin, wounded but not technically dead

>>52998232
I see the problem of scale too, not that there're not alternatives

>>52996841
Its actually really decent. But yeah, hang back a few turns before trying to use it. If nothing else just because you want the most bang for your buck.

But something to remember is when listbuilding as any army, imagine you are the other player facing your army using Dwarfs with maximum cannons and Thunderers or the other player is High Elves with lots of Vortex spells.

If there's one thing on the table unlike the others, its going to get blasted. That's why people judge some options kind of harshly. Of course if you take one Zombie Dragon and the rest of your army is footplodders, that dragon isn't going to get into combat. When your opponent has to decide to shoot the Dragon, a Black Coach, or a unit of Vargheists, now one or two of those has a chance to make it into melee.

Target mitigation is important. Giving your opponent too many choices to shoot.

>>52998070
What's that got to do with us? We're not 40k.

May as well blame us if the TES people start trying to ignore the Online game. Or retroactively blame us when X-Wing players disregard the Disney canon.

>>52998196
Actually, End Times started with the removal of Settra and that other one nobody ever used but in return we got to be badass again with some decent rules.

Nobody thought TK was BTFO, it was just kind of trading Settra for Nagash and access to the VC arsenal.

It'd be like if Sisters suddenly were rewarded for their suffering by losing Celestine but getting every Tau model including the OP mecha kits, I dunno what they're called.

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>>52998345
Settra>>>>>>Nagashit

>>52998280
>planet literraly in 2 half drifting appart
>its fine bro!

>>52998345
>all tomb kings get enslaved

>it's ok, tomb kings aren't done

>>52998455
I'm pretty sure you're mistaking what happened to fenris with what happened to one of its moons

>>52998436
March>>>>>>>>>Settra.

>>52998465
Tomb Kings literally were already enslaved. They just switched from Settra to Nagash. Not only that, but if you recall moving the TK to the Old World was seen as a positive since it meant we'd actually get relevant stories outside our own army book.

>>52998475
>Tomb Kings literally were already enslaved.
They wuz kings n shiet, the skellies followed the order of the greatest authority instead of the greatest puppeteer

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>>52998514
No, they followed the authority of SkeleNegan.

Its just that the SkeleGovernor came back and beat him, so they followed him instead.

Then they teamed up against Game Of Thrones right when it all got canceled.

>>52998518
now this is new games workshop

>>52998518
Who cares, very little is left anyway.

Just more reason to buy Reaper Bones and Mantic.

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>>52998566
>someone who defends End Times, also defends the new 40k stuff
oh my, colour me surprised.

>>52998518
>2017
>still buying anything from Games Workshop

It's people like you that deserve their cancer.

>>52991978
What's wrong with Chaos dwarf spawn?

>>52998601
Who's defending End Times? It was a boulder going downhill into a sea of shit.

But hindsight is 20/20, and almost everyone was excited when ET: Nagash dropped. Some people were bothered by the unceremonious shitting on of the non-army factions, but it wasn't until the release of ET: Glottkin that people actually got worried and angry.

TK players in particular were almost universally happy for their army to shoot from low tier to god tier in a single update.

>>52998313
My current 2000pt list has a block of Ghouls, a block of graveguards, a block of black knights and a block of Terrorgheist.

>One way or the other, his artillery will fucking die.

>>52996666
but both those heads are from dragons

unless the wraith on top is supposed to represent the bat's scream

>>52991540
Tried it once, it's pretty shit desu famalam

>>52989872
The campaign died because other players complained for a change in the GM's way of GMingand he didn't feel doing it anymore

>>52991476
Houserules we have:
>Different Grappling rules.
>Everyone can change one talent or skill that fits more his character if he can explain it. "Making him stronger" is not an explaination
>Staff gives you one parade for free
>The numvers of criticals are cumulative. Meaning if you are on -2 and get 3 points of damage, you are on -5.

>>52991476
Why would you make houserules that change something as crucial as the combat system?

I'm all about changing slightly a talent or a skill, but changing rules outright just fucks up everything

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>>53000228
imagine being a Human Slave born in Hag Graef, and the only thing you ever learned to do was riveting chainmail together, and that's all you do for the entire day, broken only by the moldy slice of bread you're handed out in the afternoon, while hoping your Masters son didn't piss on the loafes that day.

>>53000228
I loved this cover, was very old school. Although I remember that edition of the army book being shit.

Is Mordheim: City of Damned as non-optimised as it was?

>>53000378
And then the too hot dark elves come in at night to tease your dick and never let you cum, so you have to off yourself while your hands are chained to the walls.

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If our gloriously bloated emperor lord mazdamundi can get up so can you guys

you can all do it

>>53001032
>disclaimer- artist rendition of what a standing Slann might look like

>>53000889
I doubt the average slave ever gets to see a Druchii female in his life.

>>53001457
I don't believe he ever said female.

>>52991978
where can i buy one?

>>53001032
>ywn have a skink harem worship and lovingly stroke your corpulent stomach

>>52992223
Seems about right

>>53002117
Thank god for that.

>>53000378
>slavery makes you go bald

Too fantastical for my taste.

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>>52984963
whats the most aesthetic fantasy ship?

>>52995214
Put up or shut up, when you start show us your work and make that shit free

>>53003042
In general or in WFB?

Because Zandri's ship is pretty fantastic. So is Noctilius and his castle pulled by shipwrecks.

Can bragging about purchases be in the OP?

Because I got an on-sprue Terrorgheist/Zombie Dragon for $25. It comes with round bases, but I have the correct square bases anyway.

>>52998635
This^^

ET:Nagash was awesome. It didn't start turning into a giant turd until later.

They should have just used the event to consolidate the factions into elves, men, undead and Chaos and left it at that, but they instead shit on everybodies fun.

>>53000228
Are Dark Elves mongoloids?

>>53003407
Rolling up Chaos was very good too. We knew the event was shit by then, but in its last gasp Beastmen players finally got nice things.

>>53003042
I don't know much about fantasy ships, but I like Bretonnia's Galleon. If you look close they have little castle towers in the back - how rad is that?

>>52991476

I would love for our GM to convert the crit table and damage types from dark heresy 2 to WHFRP 2E but it's a lot of work for him and it's gonna bog down our sessions a bit until people get used to it.

>>53001088
I like the redesign.

>>52999619
>The numvers of criticals are cumulative. Meaning if you are on -2 and get 3 points of damage, you are on -5.

I both liked and dreaded that in DH2E, survived a bolt round then had to burn a fate point because someone jabbed me with a bayonet that pushed me over the top with criticals.

>>53001032
>flabby, cellulite toad ass
T-thanks...

>>53004820
eh, the concept artist had to stare at flabby cellulite human ass as reference for hours...
Count yourself lucky you only see the artists rendition.

>>53001032
will he be able to swing that mace or is it going to levitate in the face of people on its own?

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>>53003042

Black Ark but not the old Man O' War one they used to make, that was fucking horrible.

I was thinking of converting one out of a dark elder raider for 1/1200 scale.

Red pill me on Chaos Chariots

>>53005055

There's nothing to red pill, they're pretty great.

>>53005067
Are you supposed to charge them into flanks of units that are already in combat? Because I don't see how they can do enough wounds on their own.

>>53001088

What else is he going to look like? He looks like a fat toad sitting down so he'll probably look like a fat toad standing up.

> that sag

Pretty realistic for a guy who spends 99% of his time sitting in a chair.

>>53005091

Yeah never get chariots of any race bogged down.

Use them to hit and run, to either to hit an exposed flank or to clear ranged units.

>>53003434

Sometimes they do paint elves are slightly Asian looking, depends which artist is doing them and how ayy they want to make them look.

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Thanks to the guy who posted the Polish Google drive yesterday.

Sorry if this has been asked before but, was curious if there was a collection of suggested house rules for 6th edition, or a list of what good ideas to pull from 7th and 8th, like step up and such.

>>53006367

In regards to using new models in older editions, I would look through Dogs of War and see if any profiles can be used for new units. This method will probably lead to the least butthurt since their rules are already in the game.

>>53006367
6e raw, 6e with 7e books, 8e with ET: Nagash, Glottkin, and Thanquol, or just say fuck it and go T9A.

>>53009007
THEY HAVE WRONGED US

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>we'll never get the actual age of sigmar
fuck this gay verse.

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>>53009431
franz and valten were better than sigmar though

sigmar is only cool as barbarian king and that diesnt work woth poofta empire floppy hats

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>>53005055
Better yet take Gorebeast Chariots of Nurgle.
They are almost unkillable and can tarpit pretty well while also being capable of tremendous impact hits due to getting the Killing Blow rule on them.
Also, they sure are good fun to convert!
I never leave home without atleast one.

>>53009431
Why do you want the Age of Sigmar?
It's basically the same setting but without gunpowder nor any human civilsations of note.

>>53009519
i thought he just meant that he wanted sigmar running around doing stuff

does anyone actually want smegma?

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>>52992581
>>52997922
-Scale skirt is sloppy (usually not a a big problem, but it clashes with the very clean design of the rest of the armour)
-leg anatomy is messed up
-one side of the skirt is notably shorter
-sword held at awkward angle
-weapons are oversized while having far too thin gribs/shafts

>>53003042
Love the Araby ship they did for Dreadfleet

>>53005034
You do realize that Black Arks are floating cities, right?
-belt that goes nowhere

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>>53009664
Honourable mention goes to the High Elves

>>53009519

It would be a cool Conan style setting where all the humans are barbarians.

You could kind of do it now.

Dwarfs would have no black powder, Orcs would be savage Orcs only etc.

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>>53009711
that would just basically be Warhammer set in the past right? you don't have to advance anything for that.

it would just be like 30k but for fantasy

>>53009711
Actually, the Dwarfs showed up to help Sigmar out at Blackfire Pass by shooting the shit out of the orcs with rifles.

>>53009664

They have parts of Dark Elf cities that originally sailed from Ulthuan but they can look however you want really.

The raider would be the superstructure, on top would be some 10mm tower scenery.

In Man O' War they allow other ships to sail inside them though so they must be enormous.

>>53009781
>In Man O' War they allow other ships to sail inside them though so they must be enormous.
That's becaus they ARE cities, enchanted to float by Malekith when his lands in Ulthuan were flooded.
They're basically floating ports for cosair fleets.

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>>53009688

>>53006367
Everything from 8th except magic and maybe the rule about charging units no longer striking first.

>>53009770

Did they? Another anon said Dwarf cannons were only a few hundred years old a few threads ago.

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>>53009541
>>53009519
>>53009466
I meant an actual Age of Sigmar set in the Time of Sigmar, with old School Dorfs and Orcish Hordes fucking shit up.

Akin to the Horus Heresy, would still be preferable to the age of smegma we have now. Sigmar as a character and concept wasn't ruined until he was used as a plot bicycle for Archaon.

If End Times and now Gathering Storm have shown anything, it's that GW is absolutely incapable of continuing their settings with any resemblance of integrity.

Setting things in the past, while leaving room for ambiguity and interpretation is clearly the way to go.

For all intents and purposes, 2520 is the lamest Time Period in the Warhammer Timeline, 2020, or even 2300 would be far superior, and GW should have explored these times far more.

Even Sigmars time was more interesting than the "End Times", which were basically one giant Villain Wank, where every villain of the setting got their shaft polished, and most other characters and factions got shat on.

And don't give me the "buuuht Warhammer is Grimderp, and Archaon winning is the ultimate Grimderp outcome!11!!"
no it is fucking not, Warhammer is a Setting of Evil having everything stacked in it's favour, but every single time being brought to it's knees by the unbreakable will and resolve of Man and Elf and Dwarf, look at the list of Individuals, Aenarion, Alcadizaar, Sigmar, Magnus. The List could go on and on, look at all the Villains who had Victory in their grasp but were brought down by nothing but a will of Stone, tenacity and cold Steel, Drachenfels, Nagash, Vlad Konrad and Mannfred, Gorbad, Morghur and Asvar Kul.

don't give me that shit, in the end new GW simply didn't understand Whfb and didn't know how to 40kids it, so they canned the whole setting, and Archaon was their closest thing to Abbadon they could project their 12yo Deviant Art Chaos fanfic tier writing onto.

fuck fucking GW, I hope they crash and burn

>>53009926
There is a passage in the 6th edition rulebook talking about how Dwarfen rifles repaid Sigmar for saving the High King and in the Sigmar Black Library novel they use an Organ Gun prototype in the fight against Nagash's army.

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>>53009431
they really should have done this. they were literally already doing the same thing with 30k and 40k

why couldn't they do this both to make a new game but also revitalize fantsy?

the flip side though is that its gw and they would have turned sigmar into a retarded faggot like what emps got with the HH treatment

>>53009711
>Dwarfs would have no black powder
You need to go back to the War of the Beard for that.
Dwarfs during Sigmar's time were basically the same, except maybe gyrocopter s and flame throwers.

>>53009985

They kind of did, the Time of Legends was our HH and it must not have sold as well since there was no spin-off game.

God help FW when the HH bubble bursts.

>>53009981
6th edition was when Lore accounts weren't yet written as 100% factual reports. They were meant to be historical writings, which in relation to sigmar were over 2000 year old eye witness accounts.

Dwarfs at the Blackfire Pass probably used Crossbows. the same way contemporary artists drew King Arthur and Caesar in late renaissance full plate armour.

>>53010053

I think I got confused with the War of the Beard as the other anon said, they probably did have black powder back then.

Bit weird having one faction with such a massive advantage though.

>>52988124
In RPG?
Probably yes as
hedge wizard -> witch -> warlock career path gets you advancement of Magic stat up to 2, where
apprentice wizard -> journeyman wizard -> master wizard -> wizard lord gets you to Magic stat of 4

But on the other hand going with:
hedge wizard -> witch -> apprentice wizard -> -> -> wizard lord is most OP career advancement in wfrp 2e I can think of.

>>53010079
black powder isn't that much of an advantage over other convential weapons, not in the usual situations you'd find yourself in the old World.

Most notably they have a Naval Advantage, but on Land, not so much.

>>53010079
you keep forgetting this setting has magic. who cares if someone gets gun

bretonnians have bullets bounce off of them because their feet goddess says so

>>53009767
Which also has the weirdness of how most factions would be almost unchanged 2000 years back, like how 30k really only has the Legions being different.

The Empire would be more Dark Age, and Bretonnia could be vaguely Welsh/Breton rather than King Arthur, but that's pretty much the only differences. Chaos is the same, Elves are the same, Dwarves are the same...don't really have Vampire Counts in the same way, but they could still exist, just like Tomb Kings and Skaven.

>>53010115

Yeah but humans wouldn't have magic or technology. They would be like Franks, spears and bows.

>>53010117
the only important faction is man anyway so them being changed would be enough. besides they could change plenty if they felt like it and knew how to write and build settings

>>53010127
humans still had magic. just not college trained wizard. for instance the ice queen of kislev is powerful as shit but not trained

they had hedge wizards and whatnot

>>53010163

But didn't Sigmar task Sigismund with rooting out magic?

>>53010053
>6th edition was when Lore accounts weren't yet written as 100% factual reports. They were meant to be historical writings, which in relation to sigmar were over 2000 year old eye witness accounts.
The text in question is told from the perspective of a dwarf who was there.

Dwarfes have had knowledge of gunpowder since before the War of the Beard (they got it off the High Elves who are to posh to actually do anything with it). It'd be weird if they didn't have weaponized it by the time of sigmar.

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>>53010127
Sigmars tribes didn't, but the Empire wasn't the most advanced civilisation of the time either.

shit the Kangz had thousands of years earlier put Blackpowder to shame.

>>53010223
dumb kangs are the worst faction and are officially for cucks

>>53010163
>>53010197
Humans used to persecute mages as witches until they got taught controlled magic by Teclis.

Warrior preists and shamans were probably a thing though, at least Ulric ones.

>>53010110
Canons make threats like dragons giants and greater demons something you can hope to destroy quite reliable.
Where without it you need heroes to do it.

And guns pack more punch that bows and crossbows and cause bigger wounds on exit so they would be useful when you have to blow apart an orc.

>>53010163
Didn't anyone tell you there are no small parts, only small actors? The Empire is nothing without factions to bounce off of.

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>>53009943
>I meant an actual Age of Sigmar set in the Time of Sigmar, with old School Dorfs and Orcish Hordes fucking shit up.

Obviously.

>Setting things in the past, while leaving room for ambiguity and interpretation is clearly the way to go.

I wouldn't mind going back in time in the Warhammer world but the litteral age of Sigmar doesn't sound to exciting for me, seeing as it robs the setting of diversity in favour of more barbarians and less sophisticated weaponry.

A much more interesting setting would be at the time of the Great War Against Chaos as it would give us, amongst other things:

An Empire split asunder into different geopolitical entities who fight amongst themselves for dominance. --> Different imperial armies with different kinds of specialisation.

No Empire Mages.

Possibly an army composed of a mixture of Warriors of Nurgle and Dark Elves (The united fleet that invaded Ulthuan). I'm thinking something akin to the Cult of Slaanesh from 6th ed but Nurgle.

A WoC-faction with focus on the kurgans rather than the norscans (i.e more Conan, less vikings).

A proper, fleshed out Kislev army.

>>53010416
It also have the advantage of basically being the same setting dressed up in period clothing which provides stability and familiarity while also provide a new shiny surface.

>>53010403
Bolt Throwers are just as capable at killing dragons and greater Daemons as Cannons are.
with the right rune.

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>gw could have brought back the roots of all fantasy but instead wanted to have cunt marines for muh diversity

>>53010463
>with the right rune
You get one such bolt thrower per runesmith as rule of pride forbids him to craft the same rune weapon.

Also you can make canons on industrial scale with right factory, runes can't be make at that scale.

Also humans can't into rune magic despite gold college wanting it very much.

>>53010036
It might be a long time before that happens.

>>53010679
even an average bolt thrower is very capable of killing giants and greater daemons.

Dragons are tricky even with cannons since flying targets are a bitch to hit.

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dog bless CA.

>>52984963
Really want to get into Warhammer (Again? I played it when I was like 13/14 as HE), but the current story/rulebook seems totally retarded. Worth getting into now, or it something I should hold off on?

I've been told that the next rulebook update will probably be a reboot of the lore/story, any truth to that?

>>53011113
Warhammer is nothing but a video game now

do you mean age of smegma?

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Anyone know how to get this model now? Are the Hong Kong casters in business anymore?

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>>53000228
Are there dinosaurs in Naggaroth or do Dark Elves raid Lustria for mounts?

>>53009926
Sigmar is grandfather era by Dwarf reckoning.
Within living memory for Longbeards.

>>53009943
That doesn't sound fun for anyone but Dwarfs.

>>53011374
Cold Ones exist in Naggaroth, yeah. They've pretty much all but replaced the use of the horse.

>>53010053
Dwarfs invented guns, cannons, and flame cannons in the War of Vengeance.

Gyrocopters were invented after the Time of Woe.

Only Gyrobombers, Thunderbarges, Goblin-Hewers, and steam drills are new.

>>53010256
t. Neferata

>>53011310
eBay, yes but I don't know the links.

>>53011440
Naw, DE steal horses and babies from High Elves.

Shadow Warriors do the same back.

Cold Ones are like Dragon Princes.

>>53011310

That's a cool model, it looks like that Tzeentch special character. Was he a Gamesday model?

>>53011484
That's a Chinese alternative model for Vilitch based on the old artwork, released in 2009.

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>>53011035

> That note perfect armour design.

>>53011497

Yeah the old Dave Gallagher art, looks pretty solid but I'd have to see him in 3D.

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>>53011113

If this isn't bait (and I highly doubt that) age of smeg isn't going anywhere for the next 5 years at least as that would constitute GW admitting they were wrong. So just fuck the rules and buy the models you like, put them on squares and play whatever people near you play.

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>>53009943
>I meant an actual Age of Sigmar set in the Time of Sigmar, with old School Dorfs and Orcish Hordes fucking shit up.

>Akin to the Horus Heresy, would still be preferable to the age of smegma we have now. Sigmar as a character and concept wasn't ruined until he was used as a plot bicycle for Archaon.

It might be possible to do this by merging WHFB with Warhammer Ancients, most likely first edition. The WHA lists would probably need to have access to magic, items and heroes.

>>53011473
No, Dark Riders are pretty much the only horse users. Cold Ones are a lot more common among anyone else who rides.

Any idea when GW is going to retcon Age of Sigmar into a workable franchise, like old Warhammer?

>>53011571
It's not bait, and thanks I'll have to figure out which hobby store near me does game nights and shit. And figure out what rule book they use, AoS wouldn't be so unappealing if it didn't consolidate every faction into a nonsensical alliance..

>>53011626
>workable
it's workable right now, just not very good.

>>53011574

I would just use Fantasy but restrict options.

State troops with sword and board can proxy barbarians, just say the light armour represent their Schwarzenegger physique.

>>53011651

It's a better existence honestly, you have the setting and the models you like but none of GW's bullshit in regards to unnecessary rules changes.

If you put your guys on squares you can play Dragon Rampant, Fantasy 1st to 8th, Kings of War, 9th Age etc. etc.

>>53011694
Only thing now is I gotta pick a faction and find models on eBay. I mean, I guess I get that they can only release so many units, and they have a fairly limited fanbase but how the hell does GW charge so fucking much for them?

>>53011652
The dimensional warfare makes it unworkable. Something new must be established asap.

>>53011759

Well war-gaming as whole is pretty expensive, then you have the GW 'premium' because they're the big fish in the small pond and then Fantasy had even higher prices because each box can make like 3 different units which nobody asked for, but it made GW more money and their life simpler.

Then they wonder why 8th was a disappointment when a box of Witch's is £35 and running them in a block of 40 with a Cauldron of Blood (another expensive as fuck block of plastic) was a common tactic.

>>53011774

I still think Sigmar will take up in his tent and realise it was all a fucking horrible dream, this is what causes him to disappear, so this version of events never comes to pass.

Are Hedgecraft Apprentices any good as a starting class compared to Apprentice Wizards/Witches/Hedge Wizards?
I have no idea how magic works in Warhammer Fantasy RPG but I know casting magic can go horribly wrong for the caster, and the Hedgefolk seem to be good at avoiding that, but how does it work?

what are the chances of age of shitmar getting thrown into the dumpster in a few years and 9th edition putting things back to how they should be?

>>53011626
Age of Sigmar is not workable. I just think of End Times and AoS as an alternate timeline where everything is retarded.

>>52984963
So apparently 40k also got sigmared, how does this makes you feel anons?

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>tfw too intelligent to pick one setting over the other so I enjoy both equally for what they are instead of bein a whiny piss babby
Must suck being so assblasted about a game setting that you still have full access to that you need to shitpost constantly as if that's going to change anything. Imagine just waking up one morning and not feeling the need to complain about AoS and every other thing in the world you don't like

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>>53015959
Nice opinion, man. You've clearly never looked at AoS lore beyond 4chan memes, and are so cucked you put any sort of hope in fantasy ever coming back as anything other than video games

>>53016161
Its very good.
Ork and tyranid player here, 10/10 will trade shit edition for good edition again

>>53015952
0.
Shitmar is actually a succes from an investor point of view.

Threadly reminder that of you spend less than 200€/month you arent supporting the hobby and your game will probably get squatted.

go play chess, poorfag

>>53016426
>spending 200 bucks a month
lol? you buy the armies and paints you want and the necessary rules and that's it. that's why GW makes new editions, but AoS isn't a new edition it's a new (shit) game that doesn't appeal to the same people that like actual WFB.

>>53016618
And why sont those people just play WHFB weekly ?
What do you mean its a dead game because people tought they could just buy 400€ worth of shit once and the company will grow exponentially for 30 years ?
200€ is the bottom tier of supporting the hobby, thats what your 40k overlords do and why GW is putting much more ressource on 40k.
30k player put way more than that.

>>53016745
we do play whfb weekly. we just dont pay to play at GW stores lol. GW killed its own business with their pants on head retarded online sales rule for third party sellers.

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>>53016166
>>53016236
>>53016426
>>53016745

GW is really splashing the cash tonight, must cost them a fortune having you all work extra hours on a bank holiday.

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>>52919908

>>53016860
>anyone who disagrees with me is a shill
You cucks are truly desperate. Also, explain the mechanics of this "joke."
If it were true, then That implies we "shills" get paid to "shitpost" while you do it completely for free on your own time because you're an angry Piss babby with nothing better to do

>>53005352
link?

>>53017750
you aren't paid shills, you are just aoshit fags who got bored of their bland and pointless setting and come here to shitpost.

what's with the smegma kids incursions recently? Are they losing it after recent releases?

no one cares about your underage opinion on WHFB, you can come here to discuss actual old lore here or advice on old models, but leave your smegma skub and sigmarines at the door. No one who comes here gives a single shit about AoS. There's a thread for that shit.

>>53018124
They can't find anyone to play with them so they only have shitposting left.

Why are the elves hitler and nazis?

>>53002117

Andn not just the stomach ;^)

>>53018306
Because Elves supposed to be perfect humans

>bought KoW werewolves as base for ratogre conversions
>too tiny-ass to be proper rat ogres
>too tiny-ass to be crypt horrors or monstrous stringoi
>made of hard plastic, which is pain to cut and doesn't melt with plastic glue, so i have to use fucking superglue shit

okay, I can manage with three ratogre runts, but I won't be buying more of them
anyone knows any more good werewolf minis that don't cost an arm and a leg and preferably are regular plastic (or at least resin)? I was eyeing Mierce ones, but they are expensive

>>53018124
What else do they have to do? talk about the setting?

Thyey will just come here and shitpost until their setting is worth talking about (aka. most likely never)

>>53018306
They are? I don't see much socialism going on.

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>>53017191
>quoting your own posts

>>53011035
what can be sexier than ankle-length scale armour faulds?

nothing. nothing can.

>have constant urge to write homebrew armies and campaigns
>would never use it myself, because I detest homebrews and believe they are for faggots
>most people believe likewise, so they won't use it either, and if they will, they are faggots and i'm not gonna write for faggots
what do?

>>53018623
write a gun and kill yourself

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is this the most aesthetic battle scene in Warhammer?

Everything looks so prim perfect.

>>53018845
Not enough Druchii being dead.

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>>53018845
I sure do love me some witch babes.

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>>53018869

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>TFW you miss your vampire coven army so much you are actively concidering playing AoS.

I miss my bloodsuckers.

>>53018872
have they got fashion magazines with new trendy patters to apply paints to face? do they have ditzy girly talk on how they choose make up?

>"I, like, totally look like I'm weeping tears. I used human blood."
>"Wooow, that's, like, so edgy! I used dwarf blood. It's totes good for your skin! You just have to pick the hairs out."
>"Ewww, gross."

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>>53018872
the witch elves are the one thing I don't like so far about WH2.

AoR did em much better. Not to mention they made the cutest Druchii ever created.

>>53018910
play T9A? it's got bloodlines and stuff

>>53018942
what an ugly-ass face

>>53018942
She needs some sleep.

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>>53018954
you take that back you cunt

>>53018972
seriously though. >>53018942
is absolutely grey and uninteresting face. tons of girls that look like that on the streets. except this one looks like she's on drugs or something

and >>53018972
while tad better ain't no beauty either. w3/10 wouldn't date. nice body though.

>>53018994
Don't question waifufaggots, they can't explain their delusions.

>>52991378
http://www.the-ninth-age.com/index.php?simple-page/

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>>53018994
still looks better than that>>53018872 face, who looks like a hag.

what a lively thread

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>>53020934
adults are working.

>>53021017
so? I only browse 4chan at work, I have actual engaging stuff to do on my home PC

>>53021070
What the fuck do you do that you can browse a Tibetan Puppy Plant Congolomerate?

>>53021281
pretend i work hard, obviously
good thing i took theatre classes in school

Inexperienced gm here, what are some ideas for campaigns in Kislev? The adventure in realm of the ice queen I had planned to modify a bit for the group, but I'm not sure what I could hive them to do after that.

>>53001457
The last seconds of your lite still counts.

>>53016745
Who the fuck buys 4 new armies a year?

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>>53021377
Maybe take a look at Something Rotten in Kislev. It's not the best adventure, but it might give you some ideas.

>>53021377
Battling wight king named Koschei, who has soul trapped into needle, egg, duck, hare and chest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koschei

>>53021281
I often browse at work because watching machine tools closely don't usually make them process faster.

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So /twg/ is having a meltdown because they think this new deisgn is SJW. Do you agree?

>>53022263
Other than the boobplate and the arms, looks ok to me.

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>>53022263
Dick status - Diamonds.

>>53022263
They are already better than Eldar from Dow3.

>>53022263
What are their arguments? I don't know of a single named female princess fighting, but it doesn't seem impossible. She's also too nordic to be SJW and her nose has the same color as the rest of her skin.

>>53022263
>Trusting anything /v/ says about anything.

>>53022263
They're not really having a meltdown, they're just doing a circular firing squad because the subject is so contentious.
I don't think anyone actually cares but they're all paranoid that someone MIGHT care.

>>53017851

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B78tEyor-_2DdU9TLTVUaW5VMjg

Some of it's in Polish and some is in English it's all RPG stuff.

>>53019096

But that's because she is a hag?

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>>53022263

How is that SJW in anyway?

> showing skin
> boob plates
> model's face with conditioned hair every day

10/10 would sacrifice my life for Ulthuan.

>>53022263
I like it, also like that they're doing the Fem Male split in lords again.

>>53023430
>"it is le sjw menace"
>can't appear to hate le sjw menace less than other anonymous poster
>"no me i hate it the most my videogames have been stolen by this"

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>>53018872

My body is ready.

>>53023961

The only argument I can see is CA doubling down on female generals, but Elves have always had them, you get breasted torsos in some kits.

Plus, it's implied Elves are pansies and there isn't a huge difference between the sexes.

>>53022263
The only potentially SJW thing about it is that it's a princess rather than the princes you've got in the army books. But the elves have always been pretty egalitarian about who fights in their armies so that's not really out of place.

I would like for them to also have the princes, though.

>>53022263

Does this mean we'll get more pictures of Elves blowing 'milk' through their noses?

>>52989205
Your "master necromancer" is weeb shit. Feel bad.

>>53023974
>ywn be a tied down to a shrine and used as a buttslave for a slaaneshi trap priest
Why even live?

>>53024684

I was surprised GW even published an article on the army since it was about Slaanesh.

>>53024424
Please share your Lustrian themed undead army.

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>>53022263
Aren't they the ones who also cried they changed the dryad design to be less girly elf, and more tree monster?

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>>53022263

>elaborate chignon hair coming out of the top of her helm

>>53024869

I do kind of miss their bark boobies.

>>53024869
I now know who I can scapegoat for waifufaggotry.

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>>53024869
It's sort of a 'I CAN COMPLAIN LOUDEST' sort of deal. It's not quite on the level of the upvotes of reddit, but if a thread is moving fast enough and there are few enough people who disagree, it'll seem like everyone shares the same opinion. Which is usually the most extreme, often said, and above all angriest opinion. The people who like something generally don't say it or get shouted down, and the thread moves fast enough you miss them. So you're getting both the people who HATE elf girls, and the people who HATE a lack of dryad girls.

>>53024885
I think it's most likely not her own hair, but horse hair on the Helmet.

>>53025518

/vg/ has a valid point, SJW's are taking over the gaming industry but I think CA are still rocking it oldschool. The minor changes they've made have been well within Warhammer parameters.

If they decided to replace Teclis with a black-trans-lesbian-disabled Elf pronoun 'xe' warlord... we would have a problem.

>>53022263
It seems perfectly wonderful to me - what are their objections?

>>53026548
I think they have a misconception that High Elf women are exclusively used for breeding. Same as all the other waifu tards.

Their still salty how they turned Isabella into a real general, and Legendary Lord.

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How large is the Chaos horde? By this I mean picture related, those fully clad in plate. Seems like it would be quite labour intensive to kit vast numbers out, but I guess pound for pound nothing short of a vampire is a match for a WoC.

>>53018845
That dark elf warlord is not going to finish his strike, for the sword will get caught in the front horn of the helmet.
Another win for the High elves.

>>53026631
Chaos Dwarfs make WoC armor. The number of Chaos Warriors varied wildly from time to time. I guess during the Great War against Chaos, there would have been between 5-6 thousand fully decked out chaos warriors in his army, probably 8 thousand overall. Despite popular belief the numbers of Chaos Warriors isn't that high since they keep turning into Spawns/getting killed by other Chaos Warriors. The vast majority of Chaos troops is far less elite human tribesmen and beastmen, also lots of Demons.

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>>53026734
Who will land the first hit in this engagement?

>>53026800
That 1 vs 2, the Khaine bitch is dead.

>>53026800
the Dude would literally not give a shit if that 90 pounds bitch cut him, he'll go along with his strike and if not cutting her in half right there, throws her 15ft away with the impact of his axe.

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>>53026734

> The High Elves time has come... and so have I.

>>53026888
> Implying your could hurt anything with hips like those.

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>>53026833
>>53026888
Yeah, this was probably too easy. What about this?

>>53027019
looks to me like the Chaos Worshipper lost his balance and is going down due to his humongous shield being twice his own weight

>>53027019
>Fully ironclad dude in an awkward semi-squatting pose
>Warrior priest with a heavy Warhammer, with a lot of faith

>>53027065
You could assume that he's ready to shield bash to bring the priest out of balance and then strike.

>>53027145
Warriors of Chaos also have a lot of faith.

>>53027246
>Warriors of Chaos also have a lot of faith.
Enough to make your weapon shine?

Checkm8 Chaosaboo

>>53027290
They are chaos-infused Übermensch stuck to their armor. Not even a chaosfag here. But they also have "faith", let's put it in quotation marks, that empowers them and "gifts" them.

>>53027019

Speaking of warrior priest anyone played one in WFRP? I'm thinking of making one but not sure what miracles to use on him from the list you can choose from.

>>53027019

Is there any need for that shield to be so thick? I mean I know on the models you have limitations but in the art they should be somewhat realistic, it looks like he's carrying around a slab of granite.

>>53027564
well' he's possibly seen an Elven spear go through Chaos Plate like butter before, so he figured if he's gonna carry a shield, he might aswell make it worth his time.

>>53027564

Functionally no but when chaos can make you defy physical limitations you might as well slab on as much as you can.

>>53027587

At T3 an Elven spear would struggle to go though butter at all.

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>>53027615

S3*

>>53027634
>fluff = tabletop

nice try shill

>>53027615
I'm not talking about any elven spear.

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>>53027654

> Talking about the table-top.
> Shill

O-Okay

>>53027689
Ugh. They look so...boring. How are they going to give them flavor in Total War Warhammer in comparison to the other crazy factions?

>>53028050
Dragons will probably look better, and if the Wood Elves are anything to go by, at least some of the dragon options may be recruitable sans rider.

Can anyone recommend me an order to read the Warhammer books in? I recently got into it and I'd like to read some novels. Just wondering if I should read them in chronological order or any of that jazz or if there are some that aren't worth reading or if I should skip some ages ectect. Thanks!

>>53028404
just read the Gotrek an Felix novels.

>>53028922
is that like the slayer ones or the anthology

>>53028977
read the slayer ones in release order

>>53024844
What article?

>>53029032
ok thank you :)

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Is the Storm of Magic book worth having? Even a brand new copy is dirt cheap.

>>53028050

How can anyone find High Elves boring, they have a great selection of special snowflake units, we have spear master, sword masters, axe masters, bow masters and last but not least horse masters.

>>53030841

Yeah I would say go for it, had lots of nice art in it that I don't think was reused much and it's one of the rarer 8th edition books.

>>53031389
>it's one of the rarer 8th edition books
Really? They have like 3 copies at my FLGS and on eBay a new copy is only $15. I'll probably pick it up for completionist's sake though.

I just ordered an 8th edition rulebook for my brother as a birthday gift since he doesn't have one yet, and those ranged anywhere from $30 to $100 from stupid sellers who don't know what shit is worth. There's a sealed copy on ebay right now for $40+ shipping.

>>53031508

Well it's only less common because 9/10 people forget it even exists. We don't have a scan of it in the link and I don't think anyone's even noticed.

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>>53026751
This to atleast some extent.
Chaos Warriors are among the warrior elite of the worshippers of Chaos. Many aspire to become one but few actually do. The ones that manages to ascend into the warrior-society are constantly tested in battle against beasts, men and other warriors. This provides a self-balancing of the population that keeps it in check untill a strong enough leader manages to unite the warring warbands of chaos warriors into a large horde, which should then result in a snowballing effect. Instead of fighting amongst themselves they enhance their own survivability through the sheer numbers of the horde and its competent leadership. This naturally also allows for more followers of Chaos to ascend into the ranks of the Warriors. The larger the horde becomes the better it will do and the better it does the more warriors are generated. Eventually it all collapses when the horde inevitable fractures, either through outward conditions such as a crushing defeat or through inwards such as if the leadership of the horde gets contested. Without a clear leader to assert his/her absolute will over the vast army it's likely that the horde disintegrates as the more ambitious of the champions kill eachother over the leadership or break away from the horde.

>>53031617
Forgot to add:
This then means a regression to the first stage of warriors fighting warriors which closes the circle.

>>53029044

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/02/neo-army-showcase-part-2/

It's an age of smeg army but a really nice one and it can apply to Fantasy.

>>53031672
That blue on those orcs looks really obnoxious and out of place to me. Even the boars are painted blue.

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>>53031672
>The serpentine warrior, who some say was fused with her steed of Slaanesh for unspeakable acts

ALL MY WUTS

>>53031760

Oh yeah that one's shit, the Slaanesh one is the only reason it's noteworthy.

>>53031760
I liked the blue giant.

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>>53031783

New Thread

>>53031855

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>>53031855

New Thread

>>53031855

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>>53031672
Got any more WoC showcases of note?