Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52977670
Whats wrong with you.

>>52977670
Naomi the Drunken Master Tanuki.

She was going to be hilarious. Using a custom Tanuki race with the shapechanging powers, magic sake, and ability to detect alcohol (poison). I was going to bully the team's catgirl ranger and kobold trapper.

Does anyone have a link to that pathfinder to starfinder conversion game? I can't find it on the LFG

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>>52977670
Y'all got issues, chico.

I'm gonna put this here as a backup OP.

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>>52977723
Here you go my boy.

>>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76041/mighty-quest-for-epic-loot-in-the-lair-of-the-kobold-queen

Do elves go to the bathroom?

>>52977872
yes, but only male elves

girls don't poop

>>52977872
As someone who's played an elf girl, can confirm yes.

Are there good items in Gear of Power, other than those gloves?

>>52977898
GIRLS DON'T POOP OR PEE

>>52977872

There's no bathroom.

>>52977923
You've just never had a GM use it as an excuse to make the caster girl split away from the party after she's had too much juice in a social encounter.

>>52977983
You look him in the eye and say GIRLS DON'T PEE

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I really want to play as this Pokemon in Starfinder. Don't know how, but I want to.

>>52977923

Is this why they like vampires?

>>52978030
Related but not why

>>52978014
What if she says that she'll prove you wrong?

>>52978015
I want to bang that rocket ship.

>>52978015
And what is that Pokemon?

Has any GM ever reviewanon'd for his own game?

>>52977872
They live in trees dude.

Even the dark ones that live in big open caves like making their homes in giant stalactites, not on the ground. It's practically a guano mine.

>>52978377
I mean.

Isn't that just what happens when we decide who gets into the game?

>>52978399
I mean in the thread though, under an anonymous name, or at least not identifying as the GM.

>>52978377
A lot of GMs explicitly offer feedback, but I don't think anybody puts on a ReviewAnon name. I mean fuck, you'd basically be doubling your workload.

Now players, on the other hand, I know some of them do the ReviewAnon game. Sometimes it's obvious due to bias, but sometimes it's not. The one ReviewAnon who did Wrath of the Raunchy could have been anyone, he had his favorites but if he was shilling it probably didn't work, since he didn't call anyone getting in. Maybe Lucius, but that was just "This is good but it's still a fucking excuse to play a trap."

What skill bonus does a Leshy familiar grant? Is there a way to check? I'm confused.

>>52978448
Calling it now, GMs ghostwrite the reviewanon's reviews.

There wouldn't happen to be a mega for 3.5 shit like there is for pf and 5e would there?

My DM uses those two extensively and she is looking for random content to sift through for ideas. Most of the old bookmarks I used for 3.5 shit before switching to pf seem to be dead.

Is there any 1pp way to make mounted archery minimally passable?

>>52978692
she will have to look kind of hard. A lot of the good 3.5 ones were destroyed.

>>52978708
Trick Riding and Mounted Skirmisher to get a mobile full attack, but that's only really viable if you're a Ranger or Slayer so you can get the feats early.

>>52978708
Zen archers make surprisingly good mounted archers. Otherwise some cavalier stuff can do it. A good thematic way is mongolian archers.

>>52978692
I'm halfway convinced that part of the reason Pathfinder was invented was because it was near impossible to find a good site that hosts all of what official 3.5 material has to offer, and hosted in such a way that it was clearly distinct from the 3pp material.

>>52978708
Luring Cavalier does okay.

>>52978708
Mounted archery is already one of the best combat styles. Just take the standard archery feats, and full-attack from your mount, making sure not to double move if you don't want penalties.

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How do I become a GIANT /pfg/?

How do I refuse the influence of DEX?

WHAT RINGS HAVE I GOT TO GET?

>>52977784
Yes this pleases me

>>52978942
Full plate uses +1 dex. No more is scrubmode. You go fighter 2, barbarian 18. Rings of armor, belts of strength, gauntlets of power, mask of fear

>>52978942
either be a barb or BRUTAL SLAYER

Ideally barb

>>52978071
Mission accomplished unzip my pants

>read up on established religious lore of the Pathfinder universe (i.e. the backstories for the gods and demon lords and all that jazz)
>come up with tons of plots involving freshly-deified players shaking up things by giving them options to fuck with demon lords or other gods or just options to goof around in other planes
>know that I'd be more or less on my own developing these ideas because most (if not all) places on the internet would balk at the ridiculous stupidity of creating a campaign that STARTS with players being gods

To be fair, the game would play essentially as normal, the player-gods could still be killed by equally powerful beings and whatnot, it's just their options for exploration and what obstacles they'd run in to would be vastly different, and there'd be an undercurrent of "hey, this shit you're doing is having repercussions in the mortal world, wanna see?" going through the whole campaign.

Also there'd probably be some manner of gaining power via followers, and every time you do something significant like kill a minor god or demon lord you gain their followers, thus boosting your own powers.

>>52978942
Put the effects of Muleback Cords onto a ring, possibly by putting it onto a Ring of Protection. Be a Dreige or a Half-Giant, Warder, Zweihander Sentinel, and pick up a +2 Keen Shocking Greatsword. Wear the heaviest armor you can, and make your INT at least 16 so you can keep swinging with AoOs.
Alternatively, what >>52978962 said.

>>52978942
12 fuckin dexterity... But don't tell anyone you point bought that shit up

you fuckin fggt.

>>52978978
>>52978962
alternative, combine the two

>>52978450
Please respond.

>>52979002
>>52978962
>>52978942
http://archivesofnethys.com/MagicWondrousDisplay.aspx?FinalName=War%20Mask%20of%20Terror

mask of fear fits perfectly.

>>52978942
Be a PoW Warder, then you can use Strength and Intelligence for everything.

>>52979021
https://ttop.rem.uz/Pathfinder/Companion/PZO9454%20Familiar%20Folio.pdf
this is as far as I can take you. If its not here then who knows.

H-how do I set up a F-List?

>>52979138
Fuck off

>>52979138
PM me and I'll tell you

-Rory

>>52979138
1. sign up for an account on the website. nobody else sees this, it's just for management purposes
2. make a profile
3. fill out things for the profile

Wait, is Starfinder out or have their been spoilers dropped?

>>52979207
>Moogles is a fetish option
What the fuck

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>>52979221

It's a few months away from release, but the devs have shared a few tidbits here and there.

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>>52979221

>>52979237
its originally a furry website dood

>>52979263
But moogles?

>>52979268
are you new to the internet

>>52979251
>>52979243
>AC is still named "AC"
>they didn't even call it "Defense" or something

That's silly.

How much Ride and Handle Animal is necessary to have a simple horse for travel?

>>52979324
None.

>>52979243
>>52979251
At least it seems like its backwards compatable enough with pathfinder so far that they might as well be the same system. Thats a good thing for the most part. Only real different thing seems to be the stamina thing.

>>I wonder if wizards from pathfinder for example will still be able to be relevant enough.

>>52979324
Read the frickin' skill.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/ride/

>Typical riding actions don’t require checks. You can saddle, mount, ride, and dismount from a mount without a problem.

>>52979324
the skills are mostly for in-combat or if something is currently happening to the horse. for the most part traveling requires no checks.

>>52979341

Well, there's a sample coming out in June that'll supposedly have the conversion rules. Just have to see.

>>52978978
Initiating is faggot shit, anon. Y'just hit them.

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>entothropes

Pathfetish is getting out there.

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>>52978262
Literally a rocket ship, the Pokemon. I don't even know what kind of personality I would try to play with it.

>>52979473
Bruh, we already had an all-female race of bee-babes who have to abduct men of other races to turn into breeding stock so they don't die out.

Said breeding stock spend the rest of their lives drunk off their tits on honey and bee-sex.

This is nothing new.

>>52979493
Were the drakainas before or after that point?

And even apart from that--succubi. We had fetish shit going in.

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>>52979476
Woah, hey guys
Welcome to EB games

>>52979251
So Solarian is just a functional Kineticist?

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>>52979476
Make them cute and shy.

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>>52979528
I don't know if I can do that type of personality justice.

And wouldn't it go against the murderhobo nature of prptagonists? I don't even know if there is going to be non-lethal weapons in Starfinder.

Question about Magic Weapons
if I had a +2 Shock Longsword and wanted to put another +1 effect on it what would be the best way to go about this?

I need some RP advice here

I usually make and RP characters who tend to act silly and a bit foolish most of the time and even the ones who are meant to be serious tend to be socially awkward in their acting. This is partly because the characters are meant to be that way and partly because I am a huge awkward dork in RL when it comes to socials

This troubles me in the times I want to create somebody who is supposed to be intelligent, wise and mostly no-nonsense, not silly at all, is there even a way to improve at that or should I not bother at all?

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>>52979623
I know what you mean, dude.

What I found helpful was giving my character explicit goals. Something that he was focused on that guided his actions. It could be anything:

>I want to make [thing]
>I want to achieve [thing]
>I want [thing] to happen

Focus on a prize and make it yours.

>>52979611
ask your dm

>>52979611
You can upgrade magic weapons and armor just like making new ones, except the price you pay is the difference between the two.

So the difference between the total +3 and the total +4 would be the cost.

>>52979656
See, I know I do that, but the problem is that, because of my IRL personality, even my supposed to be intelligent, etc character comes off as making decisions that are amazingly foolish or downright stupid, or making all the huge faux passes without me being aware of it until the GM or somebody points it out

Makes you feel depressed about it when it keeps happening

Is there a link for bestiary 6 yet?

>>52979673
On that note, are there any new playable races in the Bestiary 6?

>>52979678
several, but they're all shit, ugly, Azlanti tier, or 'actual furry'

>>52979705
Were they spoiled in a previous thread?

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>>52977670
>Somethin' dawned on me when I was on my own: any food you make tastes better when you use good ingredients, right? Then, if you take something already delicious like Cup Noodles and add in the finest, freshest ingredients, what do you get? The ultimate flavor experience!
Calm down there Gladio

>>52979668
Easy.

Don't talk.

Keep quiet.

Silence.

It's golden. You won't say needless things and people think you are driven despite being unaware. Feel free to press the DM for more information about things. Even OOC, the other players will think your PC is always working, even if you are lost.

>>52979705
>>52979712
You can resume Bestiary 6 with this reaction:
https://youtu.be/s-abGTw2sSk

>>52979705
No more furries pls

>>52979753
Me personally, liked Bestiary 6.
Very cool, very cool.

>>52979776
Hand me a link then

>>52979776
>>52979786
seconding.

>>52979786
>Doesn't get the Red Letter Media vs Collider war reference.
It was absolute shit, boyo.
The incarnation of the concept fecal matter which would make you get such depression you will be in suicide watch.

>>52979807
Easy edgelord

>>52979826
No, really.
It reeks of corporative marketing intellect insulting maneuver. Is obvious Paizo is focused onto Starfinder to save their sinking ship so this Bestiary was full of filler crap and uninteresting monsters except those blatantly extracted from public domain works of fiction.

>>52979854
What about Munavris? That race sounded cool

>>52979807
>RLM-Collider war

I support Stoklaza's crusade against corporations fucking with nerd subculture but he is going to lose this war. Nothing can be done against the might of Mordisney and IsenWarner.
https://youtu.be/odj6NHsWe00

>>52979904
Underdark wankers?
No, thanks.

>>52979904
Azlanti tier not pc race

What's more important: Catering to the sexual whimsy of my DM, or avoiding offending or alienating the players?

>>52979956
What do you mean with Azlanti tier? Like the actual Azlantis or their weird descendants (caligni, gillmen, and the like)

>>52979742
trufax.
As my Dad always said, better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you're a fool, rather than to open it and remove all doubt.

>>52979986
As in they are fucking broke as an azlanti.

Quads

>>52979986
Actual Azlanti tier

>>52979978
We're gonna need some details on the specifics of that whimsy, and also what kinda players you're dealing with.

Quads, now for real

>>52979991
The power of the quads compels you to accept Paizo stop being good quality long enough.

>>52979978
That is like asking if you would rather get stabbed by a big knife or two smaller knives

>>52979991
That's a shame

>>52980000
Nothing weird or objectionable on a personal level, but could create party tension
AND
Pretty friendly, interesting people

>>52980018
Well, based off the vague description of what his sexual whimsy entails, it doesn't sound like there's any reason not to.

>>52980009
That analogy is flawed. Being stabbed with two short length blade knives does have a high ranting of survival and getting lesser laceratioms than a long length one which could perfectly cut nerve tissue, pierce vital organs or severe arteries.

>>52980029
This is the kind of smarmy answer that gets you shanked with all three knives.

>>52980034
Like your mother was shanked by three niggah dicks while your father watched with impotence in his doll-like dead eyes?

>>52980063
Was this the sexual whimsy that was being discussed? Because it might not go over well at the table.

>>52980084
No, no, though it did involve infidelity and sexual promiscuity.

>>52980084
Bullshit.
We have an evil oversexual Roll20 campaign still recruiting in which sure this kind of shit will nit only happen but encouraged.

>>52980101
/pfg/ players aren't normal players. Real people don't like pervy shit.

Why do people still play 3.5 over Pathfinder? Is it nostalgia or just unwillingness to learn?

>>52980106
>Real people
There's is no such thing.

>>52980113
who cares

>>52980113
I'm also not clear on this, Pathfinder's changes to 3.5 were all things that, from my perspective, were good for the system. I'm not sure why anyone would hang on when they could so easily port anything they liked from earlier editions.

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>>52980113
Pathfinder has kitsune!

>>52980155
Admittedly, that IS a fairly compelling reason to not progress to Pathfinder.

>>52980155
And weeb culture!
Lovecraft Mythos!
Hi-tech!
Furries!
Batman!
I am gonna cum!
It broke new ground!

What commonly chosen player race/s do you dislike the most? Why?

I hate Dwarves. So boring.

>>52980201
>commonly chosen
>dwarves

What did he mean by this

>>52980201
I'm kind of souring on humans, but I still like playing them enough, so...tieflings, I guess. Most people either take them so far that they become edgelords, or play them as just being perfectly happy humans who just happen to have horns as a "subversion".

>>52980201
Humans. Sick of seeing them in my campaigns. Might just become a DM so I can have a campaign or two without them.

Do you ever get tired of a player describing their character's tit size for comedic effect?

If not, would you be more offended by a character doing the same thing with dick jokes, or would you still be okay with it?

>>52980201
I assume it's not common in other groups, but I have two players that chose to play a Suli for the last 3 or 4 campaigns. Both of them.
If I here the sentence "I shroud my hands with fire" one more time i will fucking ban it from my games

I hate catfolk so fucking much

>>52980201
I rarely see dwarves but I've never liked any I have.

I want to try and PM DHB to put a notch in my ERP bedpost but he honestly intimidates me, what should I do?

>>52980519
Try suicide

>>52980325
You should hate kitsune more.

>>52980519
Do it fast anon, he's in a meme game and the DM is a known lewdster. It could be a matter of time!

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>>52980519
Don't.

>>52977670
>character you never got to play
A Paladin who is as "meant to" fall.
Basically, I had arranged his morals so that it was inevitable that they'd lead him to commit an evil act eventually, but in the present he was lawful good. Kind of like how Asimov's Laws lead robots to do awful things.

The DM wouldn't let me play it, he said if he was the type of person to fall, the gods would never have made him a Paladin in the first place. So basically, no Paladin can ever fall because anyone that would fall wouldn't be one.

>>52978448

Man, it was only a month or two ago that reviewanons had a fairly decent reputation.

What the fuck even happened? Did the rapegame debacle fuck things up that much?

So... Bestiary 6 is not uploaded to any trove yet?

>>52978977
>using pathfinder for a game about playing gods
This right here? It's an excellent demonstration of the braindamage d20 system causes.

>>52980152
You mean like completely removing all niche protection and fun tricks rogues had and making wizards even more powerful, thanks to poorly thought-out nerfs and giving them powerful class abilities?

Some of the changes were good, yes, but overall PF is more of a sidegrade, and it's trivial to port any parts of Pathfinder you like to 3.5.

>>52978977
That sounds like a fun game and all, but Pathfinder probably isn't going to support it very well. High level numbers diverge off the RNG really hard and become deterministic, high level characters can be really complex and have tons of abilities to track, and you're going to have to make up mechanics for pretty much everything you described every step of the way.

PFG why is item creation such ball breaking bull shit in pathfinder? I'm not talking wondrous or magical i'm talking about plain old ass item/ masterwork?

Furthermore are there any alternate systems to use?

>>52982109
Because the devs weren't willing to make an effort at fixing it from 3.5

Alternate rules here, scroll down to "Making Craft Work" for something that actually makes a bit of sense http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/craft/

>>52981252
Small factors, including that light one. The most prominent one got revealed unnotably but attached a personality to a name and DMs started offering reviews on the regular so their use became depreciated. Other factors including a change in standards, Discord stuff and the questioning over what gets apps in too. There was no single big reason.

>>52981252
>Did the rapegame debacle fuck things up that much?

What debacle? Are you talking about PLD?

>>52982109

I wish the Dwarf Fortress approach was in use.

>>52980519
Are you me? Would you settle for a threesome with DHB? I think he's man enough for both of us!

>>52980808
>the DM is a known lewdster
Which DMs are considered the most lewd here? Are there any who are anti-Lewd?

>>52982936

>Lewdest
Maximum

>Most Pure
Wubu

>>52982947
Maximumsleep is my favorite memelord.

>>52982936
I can't vouch for others, but my current DM ERPed a foursome with another player while also having a barbarian queen hatefuck my character at the same time. That's talented.

>>52978942
The resizer Mageknight class can get to gargantuan without taking any dex penalties. http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/resizer

The size mastery advanced talent also says there are no Dex penalties past Huge which is nice http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/advanced-talents#toc8

>>52982960
>>52982947
Any tips on how to best ERP with Sleep?

>>52983001
SEND
HIM
A
PM!

>>52983001
Puns. Thematic puns. Terrible, terrible thematic puns.

>>52977670
>favorite character you never got to play
Well, I once applied to a game with rolled stats, because I hate myself. Using a digital roller in front of witnesses, I rolled 18, 18, 18, 18, 17, 12, and made Adonis the Sorcerer - the pinnacle of physical perfection, a god among men, beautiful and intelligent, and completely self-absorbed. His lowest stat was Wisdom.

Could have been a fun ride, but I was bamboozled in the end, and statistically speaking I will never roll stats like that again.

>>52983032
>>52983009
Where is the F-List?!

So has Wist leaked the LOGS yet?

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Have you done it, /pfg/?

>>52983311
Just search some character names on the site.
That's how you can find most characters' f-list pages.

>>52982947
>Wubu
>Pure

Anon, I have bad news for you.

As far as party composition is concerned, are barbarians and bloodragers basically interchangeable?

>>52983978
While there are a few slight variations between them, they function pretty much identically for the most part. Bloodrager is just a very extensive Barbarian Archetype.

>>52983978
Yes. Bloodragers don't get enough casting to really extend their role within the party.

>>52983978
Here's the differences

Barbarians
>Bigger hitdie
>Rage powers
>Access to Invulnerable Rager

Bloodrager
>Slightly smaller hitdie
>spells
>Charisma-based (you can just put 11 points in it and use your level-up advancement to get to 14 when the time is appropriate
>Has bloodline powers but can steal rage powers with an archetype

>>52983311
https://www.f-list.net/c/rubio%20redgrave

>>52983978

Barbarians are better, in my opinion. Bloodragers are fun from a thematic standpoint but they're way, way too squishy for the boots they try to fill.

>>52983978
>>52984057
Another difference: Barbarian is slightly better at being a natural attack build thanks to the new Beastkin giving earlier pounce and bigger Str bonuses. Shits pretty cash.
it stacks with Invulnerable Barbarian too

>>52984157
>Blood Ragers
>Squishy
What?

What fucking slaughterhouse are you playing in were a bloodrager is considered "squishy".

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>Spheres of Might

Where did it all go so wrong?

How did it go from the thing we thought could save martials from the jackboot of Paizo and overPoWered to such a god damn mess?

>>52984312
>Where did it all go so wrong?
Ssalarn. The same place where DSP went wrong. Ssalarn is poison to whatever company he joins.

Ssalarn as a Paizo dev when?

>>52984328
Wasn't Ssalarn the one who made the Sage, which is really cool?

>>52984328
How so?

>>52983796
Logs when??

>>52984312
I'm not saving this image, it's far too weenie. If my lesbians saw it while I was running a game they'd give me The Look.

>>52983911
What news?

I don't really understand how do angels fit in celestial hierarchy.
Are angels considered to be "above" archons, agathions and azata? Are they "superior" to other celestial races?
How does one become an angel? If you die and go in Heaven you eventually turn into archon, in Nirvana you turn into agathion etc. but angels have no native plan?

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>>52984507
What type of image are you looking for? Some of us may be able to help you

>>52984507

>Lesbians complaining about something being too weenie

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>>52984507
>weenie

>>52984582
They could all be butch, or into butch
tfw you will never convert a butch lesbian into your butch hetero gf

>>52984542
Just something that doesn't look like a toy sword being posed with a toy girl

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>>52984631
This better? Or would you prefer something less anime?

>>52984605

I thought anon was using a goofy choice of words. You know, since lesbians probably wouldn't be too terribly keen on weenies.

What are the most generally useful inquisitor spells, of any level and ideally out-of-combat utility?
My dm went full retard and threw vancian casting out the window, so as a result I can start with any spell on the list and eventually be able to channel for enough rounds to cast it.
The maximum cast time approaches about 4 combat rounds (for a 6th level spell) and a minimum of 2 (for a 0th level spell) so there's clearly some problems with any of the usual combat utility spells.
I'm going to take Geas as one spell because sometimes you just have to brute force things, but i'm lacking ideas for the other two slots.

>>52984673
ye

>>52984698
>kneecapping any gishes by forcing them to spend multiple rounds concentrating on spells

what the fuck

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>>52984682
Wait, you aren't talking about dicks, are you?

>>52984631

I've got artwork for you but it's on my computer and I won't be on it for the next hour or two!

>>52984698
> channel for enough rounds to cast it

That's an interesting idea to hamper casting some, if that's the angle the GM wants to take.

Prepare for autistic screeching, though.

>>52984713
ye on it good? or ye on less anime?

>>52984698
Wow, your DM is an actual retard.

Tho, Heroism and Freedom of Movement.

>>52984698
What happens to Magus and Warpriest, who literally have features for casting while fighting and specify an override on spells' normal action cost?

>>52984723
Oh you have no idea. The way the crunch works requires you to have min/maxed yourself for int and wisdom. To cast a 0th level spell in one round requires 20 wisdom, to actually regenerate "mana" at a rate of recovering one 0th level spell of mana per hour is 20 int.
The worst part? None of this gets better as you level, literally the only things that have an impact on it are your Int, Wis, and the spell level. So a 20th level wizard is exactly 5 stat increases better than a level 1, as well as whatever you can slam into it with items and some spell slots that you won't be able to cast anyways.

>>52984698
Find a spreadsheet, sort by duration and take only Hours/Level spells.

>>52984820
This is flawed so such an extreme degree that I question your decision to encourage him by participating at all.

>>52984820
Just walk away, or encourage him to look at Spheres of Power instead. It's literally your only hope right now.

>a fucking mana system
>except it's the shittiest possible implementation of it

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>>52984820
I fucking hate casters in pathfinder but this is too much. Holy fucking shit.

>>52984807
I think it amounts to "if you can cast it in one round (have 20 wisdom and aren't casting anything above 0th level), go for it"
>>52984848
>>52984871
At this point I'm just along for the train wreck to document its horror. When I heard about the mana system I came very close to offering to trade spellcasting for a bag of marbles instead.
>>52984895
Actually casters stay mostly fine (so far), it just supremely punishes rangers, inquisitors, etc.

>>52984955
>if you can cast it in one round

so basically "Magi get completely fucked, a warpriest can maybe scrape by in midgame"

>>52984955
>Actually casters stay mostly fine
Of course they do, because that style of casting actually punishes the most benign casting styles while not really affecting the most broken ones.

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Are there any PoW classes that fit well with the various big, dumb monsters that have all around poor mental stats?

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>>52984698

So wizards are gods who can cast basically any spell outside of combat, but they flail helplessly in fights?

>>52985122
Roil Dancer Kineticist for Dex/Con creatures? Stack it with Kinetic Knight for STR/CON creatures that wear armor

>>52985140
Spell slots are extremely limited and learning new spells (ambiguously) requires finding someone to teach you. So if you pick good spells from the start you're still a god for general purposes, but combat is fucking shit.

>>52985236
>Spell slots are extremely limited and learning new spells (ambiguously) requires finding someone to teach you.
No, you get them naturally as you level, and can spend money to copy them from either books or research them on your own.

>>52985294
It's almost like you didn't pay any attention to the discussion that was going on and jumped in with an uninformed point. I'm sure if they weren't using a janky homebrew system that would be true, but they're using a janky homebrew system.

>>52985188
Those are a bit more supernatural than what I'm looking for. I just need my big bruisers to have some of the early PoW stuff. But goddamn does that system favor nerdy, philosophical and charming types.

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Is there a Machine Pact for Avowed?

If not, what pact would work best refluffed as a Machine Pact Betrothed?

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>>52985770
DEVOLA AND POLOPA A SHIT!
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

>>52985363
Well, they're also the only non-mental stat initiators.

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>>52985122
Go with Ordained Defender or basic Warder.

Even if the mental score is low, you can still hit hard and have an okay mental defense.

>>52985842

Dude, they just really need a hug.

Fuckin' racists, mane.

Also, I may have cried a little bit at their text adventure segment. T_T

>>52985875
You can also take (Normie Class) and use a Discipline that has a physical stat for Martial Training.

Are there any 3rd party bloodrager bloodlines or are there any that aren't on the pfsrd?

None of these options are really appealing to me.

>>52985935
>they didn't stop
I guess no one stops.

>>52985875
Thanks for the suggestion then, the following is directed only at DSP:

>physical stat based PoW options
>occult blasters with elemental powers instead of anything fitting
Really DSP, you done goofed

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>>52984631

>>52986002
Because part of the point of Path of War was to encourage Martials to not dump mental stats into fucking oblivion. If anything the Roil Dancer is a complete an utter abberation in that regard
Con casting should never be a fucking thing

>>52985935
>Dude, they just really need a hug.

No, they need copious amount of alcohol.

Fuckin' boozehounds.

>>52985955
>Query: Why do the androids Devola and Popola seem to prefer death over surviving along? There was a very high probability that at least one of them could have escaped.
>I... I hope you never have to understand.

>>52986084
Why not both?

>>52986171
>Why not both?

Popola has a tendency to crush things when she drinks.

>>52986171
They don't have the luxury to stop

;_;

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>>52986171
>mfw boozehound
>mfw no one to hug me

>>52986208
I'd let that android crush me any day

Seriously though, what'd make a good Machine Pact?

>>52986234
I'd hug you if I were there, bruh!

>>52985932
>>52985935
Will take a look at these too.

>>52986070
True, but it ends up being more difficult to apply to say, big smashy monsters so they still offer a challenge to a party with initiators.

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>>52986277
Replace a monster's feats with Martial Training, like the Black Seraph Owlbear.

>>52984507
What is The Look? I don't know lesbians

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>>52986277
Initiators will eat big single targets alive regardless.

That being said, a lot of Initiator classes function fine without high mental scores. Counters and Strikes that don't proc saves are your friends.

I'm also considering taking a couple of pages out of Kingdom's Death book and giving fuck huge boss monsters a couple of thematic "pseudo" maneuvers.

>>52986277
>True, but it ends up being more difficult to apply to say, big smashy monsters so they still offer a challenge to a party with initiators.

Anon, let's be completely serious here.

Are high mental stats *really* that useful for an Initiator; Consider the Warlord and Charisma, what does it mean by this? Warlords get a bonus to Will and a bonus locked in at +2 regardless of Charisma if their Charisma is high.

So how does a Warlord suffer with, say, 12 or even 10 Charisma? How does a Warder suffer from 10 Intelligence? Do they suddenly cease to be useful classes even with maneuvers?

>>52986307
>What is The Look?

Isn't that a show where four old hens go on stage and cluck about this and that for an hour?

>>52986307
Justic Marxist things, my man.

Basically, a look shitty leftists give you to shame you for not following their culturally suicidal dogma.

>>52986334
So...they give you dirty looks?
Why do you have a secret code word for people just giving you the stinkeye?

>>52986327
Big Bosses with pseudo-maneuvers are the way to go for pretty much any big fight scene IMO. Your players can mop up pretty much any underlings as much as they want, but if they want to take out one of the big boys they're going to have to deal with some funky, boss-only mechanics that will likely affect the entire field, or at least a good portion of it.

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>>52986307
The "straight people" Look. Also shared by other gays, and elves. See every background elf in the Peter Jackson LotR movie.

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>>52986327
I can never get over this Seoni pic. I want her to squeeze my head between her meaty gams

>>52986406
*movies

you know what I meant

>>52986391
>Why do you have a secret code word for people just giving you the stinkeye?

Stinkeye is synonymous with "the look," which isn't unique to SJW types.

>>52986328
Yes they are. At level 9, a Cha-focused warlord gives:
+6 bonus to attack rolls when flanking
Maneuver DCs comparable to spellcasters, with ability to induce stuff like Stun, Nausea, or Daze for multiple rounds
Almost certainty to reduce an enemy's AC or saves/attack rolls by 6 for a round with no save. (Luck Bonus+Morale bonus, allowing Cha double dip to CMB)
Alternatively +6 to ally AC during surprise rounds or +6 morale bonus to most will saves
Immediate to pretty much autosave any Fort or Will, recover maneuvers, and heal about a quarter to a third of your health.
Oh, right, get high level enough and Piercing Thunder's 8th level stance nets you charisma to attack and damage

Warder doesn't get as much from Intelligence, sure, but Warlords and Harbingers get really crazy bonuses from their mentals.

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>>52986410

>they gave her meaty thighs and the boobs we knew she always had
>mfw she still looks significantly more threatening and powerful than anything Paizo's pumped out

>>52986440
Someone give you "that look" is far from an SJW thing you fucking /pol/tard.

>>52986334
You sure took that to a dumber place than it started, Anon. Congratulations are in order because it started at a Gay Look.

>>52986275
>I'd hug you if I were there, bruh!
Thank you, anon. I'd even let you take advantage of my drunken self, and use my body to please whatever fantasy you had at that moment. Just don't let me wake up alone.

>>52986391
>>52986391
I don't fucking know, not my dykes.

I'm just assuming he's referring to that look of braindead loathing that lefties get when you do something like point out that gender dysphoria can be treated with a few ccs of anti-psychotics.

>>52984157
I guess it may be a bit specific, but stuff like mirror image and other buffs that you can cast the instant you bloodrage make the bloodrager way tankier than a barbarian.

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>>52986484

Pshaw, why would you want to hang out with people you're walking on eggshells with every time they're around?

>>52986471
I... Wasn't saying it's an SJW thing? I'm pointing out the stinkeye and "the look" are one in the same, and neither are something you will only find among SJW types.

>>52986522
Oh, I don't.

That guy apparently does, though.

>>52986406
And Elrond 90% of the time. Same with Galadriel. Really it wasn't just background elves. Legolas and Arwen were the only ones not giving those looks.

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>>52986410
Use the gif next time, senpai.

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>>52986465
Didn't you read the comic?

>>52986677

That's Genzoman and I'm not sure it was official artwork. Still can't get over how Seoni looks more annoyed and frustrated than scared.

>>52986677
Not really, no. The Pathfinder comics didn't look like they had very good art.
Why, does she get fucked by a devil dong at some point?

How much HP does the Sun have?

>>52986677
>>52986708
>hay bb u wan sum tail
>*lash*
>ugh no cornugon, your tail is small
>wot? swiggity swooty?

>>52986713
No.

But she does here
>http://pictures.hentai-foundry.com/s/Sparrow/159970/Sparrow-159970-Seoni_Sucks.jpg

>>52986713

I don't recall any of the Iconics having sex besides MerisielxKyra and Valeros with Red Sonja.

>>52986171
>>52986208
>>52985770
>>52985842
Who are these people and what's so terrible about their situation?

>>52986787
Merisiel fucked at least two of the other chicks in the Worldscape comic. The queen scepter bitch and the martian bitch.

Whoever wrote that really hated Kyra.

>>52986740
"Get dis bitch some xp, bitches love xp"

>>52986810

They're robutts built to feel pain.

>>52986327
>>52986399
>>52986306
So just give the enemies some bonus damage and a counter of some sort, got it. Though this isn't just for a single big boss, but more of a giant war-party. Mostly just wanted to avoid making them all Brutal Slayers just for Muscular Reflexes.

>>52986328
Considering that initiator DCs use mental stats, they get class features applying mental stats to multiple parts of their stat blocks and end up needing an assortment of skills for maneuvers? Yes, mental stats are important to them and ensuring their abilities are functional.

>>52986810
Devola and Poplar. Their pussyfooting doomed the world and themselves.
>what's so terrible about their situation?
They're in a Yoko Taro game.

>>52986838
>they get class features applying mental stats to multiple parts of their stat blocks and end up needing an assortment of skills for maneuvers?
Mostly to things that don't matter. Especially since they're monsters and have infalted stats anyway.
>DCs
Most manuvers don't use DCs
>Skills for Manuvers
A minority, and hardly necessary to be functional.

It varies from class to class. Warlords are lot less dependent on Charisma than Warders or Stalkers are on Int/Wis respectively.

When in doubt, slap Primal Disciple on them.

>>52986819
>Seoni I got xp lemme smash

>>52986858
Right model, wrong Androids you racist.

The Devola and Popola units posted are ones who literally did nothing wrong, and faced thousands of years of prejudice and hate because of their sister's fuck up with Papa Nier.

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Currently playing a Wizard and its being tons of fun, but I dont like the whole group experience and I want to know how to fix that.

My group really hates casting rules, and has an attention deficit disorder. I try to keep following the rules for casting, but its hard because:

1-Not even the DM has any patience to let me go to a Magic Shop and start buying spells.
2-The group has little to no patience, so I have my concerns when I start being absent because I am crafting magical items
3- I am a Vancian spellcaster along other casters that can use ANY spell on their spell lists as long as they have the appropiate level to cast it.
4- No rules about Concentration or Spell Resistance are applied
5- I somewhat fell for the God Wizard meme and my playstyle consists of carefully choosing Battlefield Shaping spells and buffs.

So how can I run a Vancian Wizard with a party that doesnt follow Vancian casting rules and doesnt have any patience to wait for my Wizard to do his wizardry shit?

Also, how are Wizards overpowered when, to truly shine, they need like weeks of preparation to build enough magical reserves?

>>52986907
I know next to nothing about Automata, my mistake.

>>52986941
They don't? It sounds like no one at your table(including yourself) knows how wizards work.

>>52986858
What's a Yoko Taro?

>>52987017
Dude in creepy smiling mask that made Nier Automata, Drakengard and something else

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>>52986858
Tell me anons, if you could choose to live in a fantasy world, but could only pick one from a Yoko Taro game, would you?

>>52987017
crazy Japanese game dev who makes everyone suffer, made Nier and Drakenguard, and never shows his face in public, even at conferences. Heck, he once did a conference using a hand puppet that kills itself at the end of it.

>>52987067
What is it with Japan and despair porn?

>>52987129
Honestly, looking at the modern day (especially Japanese society) I can see what the fascination is.

>>52987001

Consider we play by Core rules, and some bits of APG.

As I see, I can create magic items with a good Spellcraft roll in 4 hours, and use a Ring of Susteanance to sleep only two hours so I can stay awake the entire night to craft the daily item.

But as I told, magic is scarce in this game, and the rest of the table doesnt seem to like following the rules of spellcasting.

>>52986410
>>52986465
Welcome to Kingdom Death, where the only girl excused from being at the peak of her >HEALTHY is tww loli.

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>>52987129
A generation of salarymen and NEETs who have lived through the Prosperity bubble popping, who are in a culture of bassakwards societal pressures on work and personaly life have left many of them inflicted with a racial ennui and a desire to fall into despair and give up on life.

Basically its a nation of people who's circumstances have left them in a middle-schooler angst mindset

>>52987067
>>52987065
>that mask

Okay, so he's the moon from Majora's Mask. You could have just said so.

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>>52987219

That explains a few things.

>>52987219
that's one of the things that stumped me when I looked at /r9k/: why do they still live if they want to die so much

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>>52987236

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>>52987236
The mask is actually the face of one of the characters from Nier, a young boy named Emil who was used in magical weapons research, and had to consume the power of his horribly mutated sister who was turned into the Ultimate Magic Weapon by the military before the world ended

He is cheerful, optomistic, and too pure for this world. Yoko Taro always wears his face to conferences since he's a wierdo.

In the sequel, he sells you stuff and sings cheerful music

>>52987219
I still want to see a horror movie based around that thing. Some Me! Me! Me! shit.

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How often do you play monster races?

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Is there anything in Paizo magic items or SoP magic items that lets you record a long video?

>>52987424
There's a devil that does it.

They look like babies stitched to flies.

>>52987424
A bard can record it in her mind and act out anything in it as stage performance!

>>52987256
Because most truly don't want to die. Death is a big fucking thing and it takes a lot to get rid of that self preservation instinct. That's what makes that life so hellish, you're too tired/depressed to live but too cowardly to die.

>>52987445
I need audio AND video.

Last day for Rhusae and the competition is still thin as it gets, if you have any interest at all it couldnt hurt to throw down a last minute app.

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>>52986666
>those digits

AKUUUUUUUU

>>52987326
I want a horror movie of it written by the people who did Get Out.

>>52987363
less than i want
all-dragon party when

>>52987654
Let's see...how many dragons applied to Overlewd again?

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How would youmake RotRL great again?

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What's your excuse for giving up on hope?

>>52987763
Nualia Redemption arc

>>52987780
I never have. I always keep in deep in my heart, even if it must ride alone

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>>52987803
>look at spoiler
mfw I realize I cannot deal nonlethal damage

Oh fuck

>>52987424
Make a spell based off of it, personally I'd say that it would be a level 2 for wizards and a level 1 for Bards.

>>52987862
That's why you always have Stabilize prepared, or at least carry a sap around

>>52987906
Well, I'd just use a class feature to put Merciful on my weapon, but unfortunately that feature happens to be gnome exclusive

>>52987424
There's a clockwork construct that can record stuff

>>52987862
>Tell your GM you're watching her carefully to see if she looks injured
>Take the -4 penalty if you have a good attack bonus
>When she looks like she's about to fall, just start punching
>CLENCH THOSE TEEEEEETH!

>>52987930
and how it's called?

>>52987478
There seem to be 11 applications proper. It's not exactly nothing.

>>52987957
just checked, and it wont help since it only records audio.
Though, if you still wanna know, its the Clockwork Spy

>>52987478
>Rhusae
>Remove the HA
>Becomes Ruse
That's because it's a bamboozle game

>>52987780
Paladins with lazy eyes and poor vision

>>52988038
Is there any game now that /pfg/ hasn't called a bamboozle?
LoBaF was a bamboozle, WWW was a bamboozle, Blingmaker was a bamboozle, Overlewd is a bamboozle.

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Do we have a discord?

>>52988089
https://discord.gg/qAdRf

How to get a lot of tentacles?

>>52988076
Blingmaker was the only one of those I remember having serious bamboozle memes, I think the others only got some obvious jokes on every dozen threads.

>>52988157
either a synthesis summoner, an alchemist who spends all his discoveries on Tentacle, or something that can wildshape into an octopus

>>52988125
Thank you

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>>52987780
Giving up on it? That would imply I ever had it.

>>52988076
Wait till they find out my game's a bamboozle
the cabal's gonna freak

>>52987803
>>52987862
My group actually captured her and send her to jail in hopes of not having to kill a being that wasn't a goblin, animal or a bugbear [spoilerI don't think we killed any other humanoid than goblins during the first book][/spoiler].

It didn't go well, she caused a riot in the Hells, we had to descent to the bottom only to find out that she is summoning a big fish while half-way through her demon transformation. We did get to spook Punished Tsuto into running the fuck away from Varisia during the fight,
so there's that

>>52987803
>spoiler

We tried. She's just too messed up in the head.

>>52988546
Y'know, if I ever run RotRL, I think I'm going to turn Tsuto into the guy from Savage Tide.

No matter how many times the PCs put him down, he just won't give up on trying to get revenge. And he won't stop coming back.

Until they finally meet him as just a pitiful little worm who's finally worn out his welcome in the lower planes

New Thread, don't give a fuck about page 6, I don't want any more anime OPs

>>52988271
>>52988271
>>52988271
>>52988271
>>52988271
>>52988271

>>52988601
We were on page 6.

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>>52988601
>New Thread, don't give a fuck about page 6, I don't want any more anime OPs
Congrats, you have become the very cancer you despise!
I hope you and kitsune/anime OP both give eachother AIDS

>>52988601
P A G E 6
A G E 6 P
G E 6 P A
E 6 P A G
6 P A G E

>>52988600
Funny thing also, until the start of book 5 we had Erylian or whatever that flying little shit demon familiar's name was. We just held her inside a glass jar and forced her to be an encyclopedia of Lamashtu lore for us.

We let her go and she is probably going to come back as some CR 15+ demon in the final book. We could've stopped it form happening, but our track record for breaking the mold is already ridiculous so might as well add to it.

>>52988076
PLD wasn't a bamboozle