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"Game night" Edition

Previously: >>52940100

RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCHING

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

>Thread question
What are you packing to your next EDH night?
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>>52955011
>What are you packing to your next EDH night?
I'm packing my new Kruphix clones and other big junk deck. I plan to have a nice, casual game with some friends.
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>>52955011
>What are you packing to your next EDH night?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSaqSVi--Ms
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Take the banlist from Sheldon.
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>>52955011
>What are you packing to your next EDH night?
A bunch of shit
>Dralnu Doomsday
>Zada (mainly for Kingdoms games)
>Gruul Science Consortium
>Slobad
>Titania Carpetbombing
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Dumb question

Does "protection" stop karmic guide from targeting blood baron from the graveyard?

Thanks!
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>>52955157
nope, target the shit out of that Blood Baron
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Can I get any pointers on my Iroas deck? I'm new to EDH deckbuilding, so any help is appreciated.

The goal is just go wide, swing big with huge dudes and pumped up tokens.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/iroas-god-of-bigdicking/
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Reminder if you play Stax in EDH consider suicide
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reminder that cockatrice has a chat log and an ignore feature
if you aren't able to pay attention to chat log, you shouldn't be playing commander. try some sealed at your next prerelease
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>>52955321
There's nothing inherently wrong with playing stax. Not everyone wants the game to end on turn 4 when someone combos out. Stax is necessary wherever assholes with highly-tuned combo decks are.
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>>52955401
reminder that shitters on trice and xmage need to label their games with
>competitive
>non competitive
>other house rules such as no MLD, etc
casual is not an acceptable game note
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>>52955401
Reminder that Xmage being difficult to use is a meme and there are absolutely no downsides to it in comparison to Cockatrice.
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>>52955423
You'll run into the same thing in real life if you try to bring a deck to a meta that doesn't want it. If you try to bring a well-tuned deck to a low-power meta, no one will want to play with you. They're just advertising it ahead of time to you.
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Control deck win cons? I figure not all control decks are combo as well. I can just chip away with utility creatures/commander in 1v1 but not the same for multiplayer.
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>>52955250
Since you're aggressive, I'd suggest Sword of the Animist. Maybe a few more tutors to pull out your enchantments/artifacts.

Idyllic tutor
Enlightened Tutor
Plea for Guidance

I'd also put in Terminus/Hallowed Burial/Descend upon the Sinful to get around indestructible/untargetable creatures enmasse.
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If you can choose a color is colorless an option?
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>>52955527
No.
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>>52955527
no
colorless isn't a color
dryad arbor has no mana cost and a CMC of 0
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>>52955527
No. Colorless is not a color.
Also, colorless cards do not "share a color" for the same reason.
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>>52955484
The win deck for control is your opponent scooping because you didn't let them do anything.
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>>52955579
That's not what control means.
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>>52955321
Reminder that if you hate stax but also hate infinite combo's that you're retarded.

Stax is the final form of control. There's nothing inherently wrong with denying people their resources. Instead of bitching all day maybe try to counter it instead. Stax is often a very fragile strategy, since most stax effects are symmetrical. A little bit of pushing from you and the entire house of cards can fall over. Stax folds to interaction. If you don't interact then the lock will be set up and you're fucked.
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>>52955579
No, that's not true.
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>>52955429

Except that it never works
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>>52955664
It's working right now :^) Currently slapping the shit out of some dorks with Titania
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>>52955664
Never once had a problem with and I've played 100+ games on it. The only annoying part is waiting for it to install.
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>>52955555
Quads confirm that it is true
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Found a group of EDH players that keep their decks reigned in so they can actually play the game. What would be a great Commander for table politics? I was looking towards either Marchesa.
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>>52956041
Political commanders are typically ones that reward people for doing things normally, but leaving you alone.
Gahiji, Sidar Kondo, Edric and the like.
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>>52956041
I personally think Queen's neat but you can do nasty combos with Black Rose out.
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>>52955555
Checked.

>>52955731
>quads
Anon...
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>>52956149
>>quads
>Anon...
5 fives and I manage to lose one.

I'm the fucking worst. Need more caffeine.
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Who is the worst Boros commander?
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>>52957707
Munda? Not sure you want to make Ally tribal in just R/W.
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>>52955011
>What are you packing to your next EDH night?
A few things:

Mogis Reanimator. I didn't have a better rakdos commander, but in essence, it's a disgusting discard deck filled with flashback and mean things I can do from the graveyard. It's class cannon as fuck, but it's pretty fun none the less.

Generic Feldon. This is my "casual" deck, and while it's fairly strong against unprepared players, it dies to literally any sort of hate. Creature hate, artifact hate, graveyard hate. Literally any of it will fuck up my day.

Uril "1v1 me faggot" Miststalker. It's an enchantress deck that is fast, resilient, and packs very good removal. While boring and predictable, it's very consistent.

Brago flickerstax and removal. Exactly what the name implies, I flicker things and turn the game into an unplayable slog until I grind out a win.
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>tfw I had these awesome matching ultra pro deck boxes that I was very satisfied with
>1 for each color, 5 decks
>never double sleeved my cards because I don't like how they slightly obscure the card
>eventually autist in my playgroup has his eleventh panic attack upon hearing that I still don't double sleeve my decks, so I caved and bought 500 perfect fits
>finish the tedious and painful process of double sleeving all the decks after what felt like multiple hours
>they no longer fit in the ultra pro deck boxes
>fuggg

So everybody recommends satin towers, and those do seem fairly nice, but I'm wondering, it seems like the selling point is the extra little pocket for dice or coins or something, which I have no use for. Is that the only reason to get them? What are the best deck boxes for 100 card double sleeved decks? Preferably decent color options so I can have them match the decks
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>mfw my decks gets ignored when I post asking for feedback

I can't tell if it means it's shit or it's good
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>>52958327
Are you the Iroas guy? Sorry dawg I'll look
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>>52958359
Nah that ain't me.
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>>52958392
where's yours? I'll give it a peek
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>>52958327
Frankly I only look at one in twenty decks that get posted here and only reply if it's compete shit.

Maybe do something to foster discussion instead of just begging for attention.
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>>52958326
They fit the 100 double sleeve decks nice and tight so they don't get air between them. They are just great even if you don't use the token compartment.
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>>52958773

Wait the extra compartment can fit token cards? That actually is a gamechanger, I thought they fit dice and stuff only

Either way they seem like the best option, they look nice too
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>>52958675
These threads are mostly circlejerking to the tier 1 commanders or complaining about bans/unbans, not like people posting decks is the worst thing.
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>>52959162
The space under doesn't fit token cards, only dice and counters, the ultrapro towers that is. The satin towers are nice as heck and I'm going to be getting another one for my second EDH deck.
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What in the holy fuck did they do to duel commander? And why?
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>>52959395
>playing duel / 1v1 / french EDH ever
Look at him! Look at him and laugh!
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>>52959395
>playing singleton "legacy without reserved list" meme tier bullshit
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>>52959437
>stop liking what i dont like

Uh huh.
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Just took like 6 extra turns in a row to win a game tonight with Edric. Lit
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>>52959162
It doesn't fit cards but they are very nice deckboxes. You can buy one of those, a clone of one of those (a couple companies have very similar products), you can shell out for handcrafted deckboxes, or you can get a flimsy box made from cardboard and fabric or the cheap plastic ones with Velcro.

They are a clear winner until you want to shell out $50+ if you like wood, or 100+ if you like wierd custom shit like leifkicker.

I think ultimate guard sells a version with and without the bottom but I can't be sure.
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>>52959621
>very nice deckboxes
>doesn't fit cards
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>what are you packing to edh night

Newzuri tokens - definitely my most powerful deck. Gets out of control really fast. Has gained "Kill on Sight" status at my lgs but still ekes out wins. Sage of Hours is disgusting.

Rafiq of the Primal - my 1v1 commander deck. Rafiq of the Many Voltron with a Primal Surge spin on it. Has Lab Maniac as an alt wincon if I can't win after dropping my deck on the table.

Butt Buddies - Gay Kings grouphug/chaos. A whole fuckload of fun and focused of making the game cuhrazy within reason. Played for fun, not to win.

Hapetra, vesier of sneks - haven't tried it yet. Lots of -1/-1 counters, proliferate, and snake tribal shenanigans.
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How would you manage to play Myojin of the Infinite Rage from your hand rather than the Command zone?
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>>52959713
Command tower
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>>52959713
Erratic Portal?
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>>52959647

He's talking about the extra compartment on the satin towers
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>>52959713

You put it in the 99 instead of making it the commander
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>>52959647
Read the chain negro, we are talking about the extra compartment it has.
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what deck can i play to let my roommate know i want his dick?
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>>52959884
Kynaios and Tiro
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I'm looking to brew another Commander deck. Suggest to me a good Commander with good art.
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>>52959947
Dakkon Blackblade
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>>52959947
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>>52959947
>>52959963
or if you want Esper instead of Bant.
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>>52959491
That's not even remotely a true statement.
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>playing T4 Doomsday and comboing off
>watching my Timmy group get unbelievably mad as I win on the spot
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>>52960240
>Mom come quick, I played the card again!
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merieke ri berit secret tech
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>>52960352
super secret tech
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>>52960093
Actually it's entirely true. Keep that meme format out of this general.
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>>52960317
mad cuz bad
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So if I'm not willing to shill out money for crucible of worlds, what is the best budget options for gitrog. Already have life from the loam and dakmor salvage before it gets recommended
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>>52959963
>asks for good art
>suggests a creature whose art is literally based in the artist misreading the name of the card

That said Ruby is fun as fuck.
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>>52960240
>>52960612
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>>52960652
Your best budget option is to pick a new commander. Gitgud doesn't work for heebs.
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>>52960240
>shitposting on /tg/
>with a story that totally happened

Be gone, knave.
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>>52960717
>have essential dredge cards for any graveyard deck
>lol no you need this $50 card

Could you be anymore stupid?
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>>52960652
>>52960717
Precisely what was said. Crucible is core on Gitgud frog.
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>>52960746
>implying I don't blow my group out at least once a month
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>>52960589
Duel Commando is aggro-central and features singleton Junk+Red, monoR, RW Partners, and a monoU Polymorph deck as top decks. It also has plenty of reserved list cards played, not sure what you meant by that.

Legacy is midrange/control central, with Shardless, Stoneblade, D&T, Eldrazi and some combo decks.

They aren't really similar at all. Duel Commander plays a lot more like Modern.
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>>52960784
You're asking for an alternative to Crucible in Gitrog yet I'm the stupid one. Okay anon. Don't ask dumb questions next time and don't try to build a notoriously expensive commander on a budget.
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>>52960837
>Notoriously Expensive

Sure, whatever you say dumbass
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>>52960812
>playing like a format means it matches that format's current meta

Didn't I tell you to stop talking about this meme?
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>>52960861
Good luck with your budget Gitrog deck, you fucking goon.
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>>52960917
Not even that guy, (You) get a C for effort
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>>52960861
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gitgud-or-gitrog/

>$1700 TCG player

And I don't even have it that fully tuned.
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>>52960861
He is kind of expensive bruh, most lands generals are. You want to run every fetch you can, loam, crucible, lake of the dead, tabernacle, asuza, exploration, oracle, along with vampiric and demonic to find key pieces in the deck.

The decks that are more expensive than it are 5c decks. In particular 5c lands decks.

You can make a bad gitrog deck for cheap if you want, nobodies stopping you from running 99 basics and gitrog, but if you are talking about actually running the core of the deck, it's expensive.
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>>52960917
>you fucking goon
Is this the bona fide new term for /edh/ scrubs? I've seen this being tossed around and I like it

What kind of fuck-up did I miss
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>>52960963
>online list of cards but no proof any actual ownership

Color me impressed
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>The faggot complaining about the Protean Hulk unban.
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>>52961000
First thread after latest ban announcement two anons were having a back and forth about hulk combos and life loss. One anon kept ending his posts with "you fucking goon" as a way of showing he was samefagging without a tripcode. Phrase caught on after that.
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>>52961006
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>tfw sold my 3k 5 colour genju of the realms fun deck a couple years ago
>get the hankering recently
>wanna rebuild
>wanna make it better this time
>can't think of any fun or interesting win conditions

fug
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>>52961044
That's lame

I was hoping for an entry in The Great Big Book of /edh/ Fuck-Ups
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>>52960677
>No Legacy

This kills me a little bit on the inside
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>>52961096
Just like real life.
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>>52961089
If it helps the story, the non-gooning anon was insistent that damage and life loss were the same thing. Even posted a card that said "Damage causes loss of life."
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>>52961053
>Giving a shitposter what he wants

Jesus christ anon, stop
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>>52960862
>shares multiple color combinations among its tier 1
>uses many of the same cards
>decks follow the same archetype
>somehow they're completely different and it's much close to this other format where the only similarity is between three lands each deck plays
Huh?
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Quick post you decks
>Prossh's merry band of kobolds and dragons
>Bob Barker the Mindrazer
>Zedruu Stax
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>>52961112
Wait, are we talking like "card draw/life loss" type of stuff like Night's Whisper? Did Necropotence come up?
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>>52961166
yeah 4chan is never like that
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>>52961187
Anon said life loss and damage were the same thing from a rules perspective and posted this card as proof that life loss and damage were the same thing. Keks were had.
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>>52961172
I implore you to do some research on the legacy meta, reread my previous post, and to stop forcing this meme.
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>>52961288
I implore you to actually fucking play Legacy and come back to me.

If you think Legacy is a bunch of aggro decks that only play reserve list cards I don't know what universe you're from.
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>>52961338
>Check top8
>31 % Aggro
>36 % control
>34 % combo
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>>52961212
Damage is loss of life, but loss of life isn't always damage.

Kind of like a square is a quadrilateral, but not all quadrilaterals are squares.
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>>52961338
I think legacy is pretty close to this:
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/legacy

Do your homework.

I also think your stubborn insistance to get people to care about 1v1 caused to misread my post. Let me highlight the important part for you:
>>52960862
>playing like a format means it matches that format's current meta

Now please shut the fuck up. No one wants to talk about French. It's a shit format.
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>>52961390
Jesus, again?

https://boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/11600/what-are-the-differences-between-combat-damage-direct-damage-and-loss-of-life

Effects that prevent damage don't prevent life loss and vice versa (though I'm drawing a blank on a card that prevents life loss).

The Children of Korlis card even spells it out clear as day. Damage CAUSES loss of life.

you fucking goon
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>>52961393
>mtggoldfish statistics
That's some sweet bait anon.
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What's the lose that makes you look back and and just chuckle a slightly?

For me it's that someone managed to pull off Stasis+Chronatog in EDH
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>>52961448
That guy isn't me you fucking goon, but he's right. I've been wondering if you're an ESL since our first argument. There's no mechanical difference.
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I don't really run mana dorks, but I just saw this on gatherer and I just thought it seemed good. Would you run this? I feel like 1G isint that bad to pay for a 1 mana ability, but then sometimes it will also tap for 2. Even if it's not on the 2 side often you still get as much use out of it as any other mana dork, right?
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>>52961808
The only 2mana dorks I would run are Rofellos, Priest of Titania, and Hermit Druid.
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>>52961808
Llanowar Druid would be better for 2 Mana
Or if you want to tap add GG to your mana pool then Fyndhorn Elder would be more consistent even though it's 1 Mana expensive
Basically play elves unless you really want a werewolf deck
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>>52961808
Mana dorks are good because they cost 1 mana. At 2 mana you have loads of less vulnerable options that can tap as soon as they enter the battlefield.

A mana dork would have to do something really special for you if you wanted to run something more than 1 mana.
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>>52959491
Explain your use of meme
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What are your guy's thoughts on having multiple decks of the same color combination?

Among other things, I have a pretty powerful Thrasios and Kydele and a fairly powerful Roon deck. I'm thinking of turning Roon into a more casual Zegana deck, would this push me even further into being "that Simic guy" or less so, since Zegana decks are weaker than Roon decks?
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>>52961808
It's good for style points, a vig mana dork is always fairly hype, but it's far from the best dork out there. It's actually a bit sub-optimal, but it's still a feel-good card.

I personally love all the Temur-themed dorks, especially Rattleclaw.
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>>52961852
>Titania
>TITania
>Has big breasts
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All stores in the nation go insane simultaneously, and the new rule for all leagues is that in your pod, you may only ever attack the player to your left. Exactly how quickly would edh die and what changes to deck building would be made to the meta in the brief existence
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I fucked Liliana in my dreams only to discover Jace was using my body through mind control to nail her because he was too afraid to do it himself

what do?
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>>52961973
I have a Depala deck, and it's so distinctly her and vehicles, any other Boros deck I could build would be worlds apart, so why not? Then again, why the fuck would I be building Boros edh anything?
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>>52961973
You should do what you want as long as you think its fun.

I already have a Meren deck but I plan on making a Mazirek one too when I get done with my Selesnya Deck and Artifact Deck.
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>>52961987
shitpost in a different general
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>they made Chandra a homo
>Instead of Liliana Vess it's a fucking elf
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>brother has an Ob Nixilis Demon tribal deck that's actually pretty effective
>break out my Meren thinking "ok my creatures dying so much will help me"
>end up not being able to break them out fast enough because one of his demons does enough damage to wreck my shit
>second round survive long enough to keep saccing and rezzing Acidic Slime
>do the dirty and destroy all of his lands

I did what must be done. I didn't like it, but I won.
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>>52962016
Funny. I don't know how to express that on topic
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Any super secret tech for Ephara?
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>>52962389
Yes, play her in the 99 with Brago
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>>52957707
Munda or Razia, probably
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How do you guys feel about Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers combo in a three-colour deck?
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>>52962833
Probably wouldn't run Coffers in 3c unless you had at least 3 or 4 Crop Rotation/Expedition Map effects.
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>>52962833
If the two other colors were splashes, or if you had some bombs with X costs then by all means. Urborg+Coffers works best when there's a reason to have all that black mana.
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>>52962875

Also, as >>52962874 said, you'll want a way to get to those two lands if you are planning to rely on them. At that point, you're running BGX, where X is your third color.
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>>52962833
If you run Urborg because of something else like big swampwalkers or filth then by all means grab a coffers, especially if your main color is black, on the other hand if you're putting them in just because you have black i would advise against it.
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>>52962833
Urborg is always good card to have, but Coffers is only strong if you run a lot of swamps or have Urborg out/have reliable access to urborg
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Got a foil Viscera Seer and a normal Marsh Flats today for Karador.
How was everyone else's pulls today?
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>>52963032
Hauls not pulls. I didn't open any m11 packs today srry.
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>>52963032
Finally ordered an Italian Hellfire, because Italian is fucking metal.
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Help I can't stop building Dimir commanders! I've already completed Lazav and Oona, now I'm eyeing Dralnu!
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>>52963125
build rakdos hate
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>>52963131
I'VE DONE THAT TOO
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>52963133
build mono-brown thopter commander beep boop tribal
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>>52961808
Oracle of Mul Daya is the only mana dork I run that's more than 1 mana.
The rest are rampant growths at 2 mana, cultivate+reach at 3 and garruk/oracle at 4.

Also Genesis Wave, but that's not really a card you use to get more mana, although I have wave'd for x=6 when I REALLY just needed a 10th land for kozilek and had nothing else to do with the mana.

Priest of Titania, Gyre Sage and 3 mana Selvala are the only dorks I'd use at more than 1 CMC because they tap for more than 1 mana.
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>>52963508
Oracle of Mul Daya isn't a mana dork, goon.
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If I'm building a competitive/semicompetitive/notgetsmashed100%ofthetime gitgud deck, what are absolute must includes not on edhrec or not in many lists?
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>>52963601
what would you play for fetches?
all 7 + both evolving wilds + panorama?
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>What are you packing to your next EDH night?
I'm always packing every deck I have. Why wouldn't I? Most of the time I end up playing Gonti and 2-3 randoms because Gonti's my latest and I'm not tired of playing it every time yet. My group might be though, because it kinda never loses.
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>>52963601
Mimic Vat isn't in nearly as many decks as it should be, being colorless.
Disrupts a ton of graveyard shenanigans and makes everyone wary of playing their bombs or wiping yours.
Also Vedalken Orrery because it's absurd.
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>>52964506
I don't know about you, but when you have 10 or so decks, they become bothersome to lug around.
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>>52964621
I guess. I've got 8 so far, so it's still very much managable.
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>>52964506
What general?
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>>52964689
Not sure I understand your question?
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>>52961528
>There's no mechanic difference

Except the dozens of cards that interact with damage and don't interact with life loss. And damage replacement effects like infect. And the fact that mechanically they're not the same.
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>>52955321
I'll play stax and you'll like it
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>He spends more than $100 on a magic deck

What excuse do you actually have for this shit be honest


You could have a valid casual EDH deck for $60, why waste so much money on this silly, unbalanced game?
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>>52965184
t. poorfag
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>>52965214
>prioritiesfag

ftfy
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>>52965184
>He spends more than $2 on food.

What excuse do you actually have for this shit be honest

You could have a filling caloric dinner for $.10 why waste so much money on this pointless meal?
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>>52965374
Well, those numbers aren't anywhere near correct, but you're comparing a necessity of life to a silly, unbalanced card game.
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>>52965417
Leisure is a necessity of a healthy life you goon.
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>>52965417
You can perfectly live on canned beans instead of cooking an acutal meal or going at a resteurant once in a while, do you live exclusively on canned beans?
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>>52960797
>that one faggot who brings a play mat to play kitchen table magic

i fucking hate people who do this, like what are they trying to say? i dont clean my fucking house or something? this isnt an LGS where 400 pound sperglords sweat all over the table all day, i make my fucking wife clean that shit before people come over
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>>52965184
i am not poor so somewhere around 250-400 is my standard budget for an EDH deck. also i have a shit load of cards from years of playing so most of the time i just have those expensive cards laying around somewhere
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>>52965506
I'm trying to say that I derive erotic pleasure from the texture of playmats.
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>>52960797
Are those ... unsleeved cards?
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>>52960797
Nothing wrong with blowing your group every now and then. Makes for a healthy gaming environment.
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Is there any super secret tech for Bontu? I pulled an Invocation of her and it'd be a shame to not build a deck around her.
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Anons, r8 my deck pls

http://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/29-04-17-hpi-deck-paste/

Commanders are Silas Renn and Reyhan
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>>52965448
>$60 on a solid casual EDH deck isn't leisurely enough

Your point literally just avoided the entire topic of the conversation good job.
>>52965453
That's not entirely true most people would have a ton of problems living that way. Your body needs things that it can't get from eating nothing but canned beans, but still your point is just plain silly.
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>>52965647
your typical sacrifice deck is all you can really do. the problem is there are way better commanders for that
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Are there any cards in W/B that make enchantments indestructible?
I already know about and have Greater Auramancy.
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>>52965824
auras or normal enchantments? i ask because if they are aura you can always drop a bruna in your deck to bring them back. not sure about the indestructible thing though
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>>52965824
>>52965918
ignore me, its white black not white blue, my bad
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>>52965918
Regular Enchantments. Ghostly Prison, Bloodchief Ascension and so on.
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>>52965955
you can drop an avacyn
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>>52965824
Mycosynth Lattice + Darksteel Forge.
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>>52965506
I think he's trying to say that is spergzilla across from him spills that dunken donuts coffee that he doesn't have to worry about his cards being ruined. Also that playmats are designed to be easier on cards/sleeves than a kitchen table, clean or not.
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>>52966072
>Hurkyl's Recall me please
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>>52958326
Ultimate Guard just released the Boulder 100, which is basically a Satin Tower minus the dice compartment. Good luck getting it if you don't live in Canada though.
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>tfw I can only make degenerate Temur decks
I'm angry at myself.
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>>52961973
I'm building a Sapling and a Hapatra deck, so I could see myself moving the overgrown tomb and other lands between the two often.
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>>52958326
Their selling point is that they're sturdy, won't accidentally come open and fit 100 double-sleeved cards without having to squeeze them in. Who gives a fuck about the compartment?
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>>52961448
>though I'm drawing a blank on a card that prevents life loss
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can i get some opinions on my deck guys?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/xenagod-rampage/
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>>52966871
try to find room for some tutors.
+Birthing Pod
+Eldritch Evolution
+Worldly Tutor
+Survival
+Crop Rotation
+Kessig Wolf-Run
+Yavimaya Hollow

+Malignus
+Shattering Spree
+Vandalblast
+Fiery Confluence
+Krosan Grip
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>>52967017
I have the malignus in there, hes so nice when he kills everyone with blade of selves :^))
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Pulled an invocation consecrated sphinx at a draft recently, should I sell it now to pick up new stuff for decks or wait to sell it and hope it goes up?
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>>52960861
I hate to say it, but if you want Gitrog to work you need Crucible, (the more affordable) Life from the Loam, or, ideally, both. My Gitrog build clocks in at just a little under 300 on tappedout and frankly that's as turbo budget as Gitrog can get: It's my most played EDH deck and it shows serious strain where I didn't include cards due to expense: No demonic tutor, no shocks or fetches... It can get pretty grim but my budget was a massive old collection and trading Expeditions to get the rest.

And even then, forced to tighten my belt wherever able, I run Crucible, Loam, Azusa, and Oracle of Mul Daya because the deck just wouldn't work right without that kind of package.
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>>52967167
I'd say sell it asap. The longer you wait the more Amonkhet is gonna get opened and the more invocations that'll be out there, by my logic.
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>>52967017
should i also swap out freyalise for xenagos (planeswalker)? I feel like hed have better ramp synergy
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>>52966096
>Also that playmats are designed to be easier on cards/sleeves than a kitchen table, clean or not.
just go buy more if they get fucked up, card sleeves are cheap as fuck
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>>52967167
personally id sell it then buy 2 normal ones to put in decks but thats just me
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>>52965506
>what are they trying to say?
"I'm the kind of Autist who likes all my stuff in nice, well-defined compartments. This is my board. I know where everything goes on my board."

...

"Also, Avacyn is my Waifu and I'll take any excuse to plaster her image on something"
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>>52965184
What's wrong with wanting a optimised deck?
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>>52965184
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>>52965184
im all for budget decks but $60? i cant even imagine how bad that garbage bulk trash heap would be. if you cant afford to drop $100 on a magic deck at the very least this isnt the game for you
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>>52959503
Story?
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>>52959947
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>>52968219
He attacked with flying men and got to draw cards
Then he played an extra turn spell
Then he attacked some more and drew more cards
Then he played another extra turn spell
etc.

Fuck off, namefag
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>>52961012
But why? Protean Hulk is fun!
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>>52959947
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>>52968288
>not filtering namefags and tripfags the second you see them

step it up sempai
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I want to build a deck from the ground up, and I want to focus on moving away from creatures. Exactly 100% of my decks are focused on combat damage and nearly all of them are white.

What's the story on the other side of the river, is UB usable for anything but mill? Can UR be anything but annoying chaos?
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>>52961987
Cast this shit on Jace as soon as you find his bitch ass.
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>>52965824
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>>52968342
you can build combo if you want to be that guy but i personally like stuff like mizzix or nekusar if your going to go no creatures
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>>52966244
Build Surrak. What's the worst that could happen?
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>>52966871
Savage Ventmaw/Aggravated Assault
Scourge of the Throne
Savage Beating
Seize the Day
Strionic Resonator
World at War
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>>52968434
I'd have a second Surrak deck to go along with my other Surrak deck and my Yasova deck and my Animar deck and my Maelstrom deck and my Intet deck and my Kraum/Kydele deck, go fuck yourself.
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>>52968576
So build Riku.
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>>52968507
>posting invocations
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>>52968606
I'm not that far gone yet.
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>>52968654
Just load it up with the jankest shit you can imagine and have fun copying all your stupidity. For example, cast Protean Hulk, copy it with Riku, then cast Rite of Replication, also copied with Riku, on a Protean Hulk.

You now have a homemade HULKAMANIA, brother!
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>>52965506
>this level of autism
I use playmat even at home, because it's more comfortable than bare table and gives some lines for my battlefield
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>>52968608
>He's this butthurt over Invocations
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>>52969193
What's to be butthurt about? they just look like shit, plain and simple.
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What's your people's opinion on Tiny Leaders
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>>>52969720
Garbage format
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>>52969720
Garbage Solved Format
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>>52969720
Solved Format
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>>52969720
shit
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>card orders are getting progressively more frequent while also buying progressively more expensive cards
help
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>>52970327
just have some self control anon. i give myself a monthly magic budget of 50 bucks and that works pretty well
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>>52970327
>Bought the 70 bucks emrakul GP promo yesterday
I'll notify you when I reach the bottom of this abyss.
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>>52968822
Not the anon who you're replying too, but i have a riku deck and do that same line of play, except with gruul ragebeast. Am I a bad person for wanting to put 100+ fight triggers on the stack?
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>>52969534
Have you seen one in person? They look a lot better.
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I need some help here. I've played a shit ton of decks (45ish now), and I'm finally starting to hit a roster that I'm pretty happy with. I'm running:

Saskia Punisher - featuring a small set of grouphug cards to accent a shit ton of effects that punish players for playing the game. My prize deck.
Wort Spellslinger - nothing special here, but a solid and fun deck.
Zurgo Bell-Striker - primarily played in 3 player games, in which I either do or die.

My problem is that I have stagnated. I have a set here of 3 solid, well-rounded decks. However, none of them function well in a low-mid power meta - they almost exclusively steamroll.

So, I need a more chill deck. I've been kicking around Mayael Fatass Tribal or Teneb Graveyard Theft, but I need help finding more commanders that follow this theme of decks that can be tweaked only to a certain maximum. Any ideas? Blue would be a good idea too, since I have no decks in the color and plenty of its staples.
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>>52970670
They don't though.
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>>52970677
build sun quan aggro
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>>52970670
I don't know what manner of voodoo's taken over your mind but you cannot for one second look at these cards and tell me that their choice of fake-hieroglyphics as a card font was a good idea with a straight face.
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>>52970677
I made a UB deck based around gifting people loss conditions like Triskaidekaphobia. How bout something like that? http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dralnus-generosity/
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>>52970877
Dralnu Donate is pretty interesting. Do you feel it would be made better or worse by switching to Zedruu? What keeps you on Dralnu?

>>52970744
I am looking for something less explosive, since most of the things I do have accelerate games already. But that is an excellent suggestion!
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>>52970976
Well, the best loss cons are black, so it makes a big difference. Zedruu would play a lot differently.
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>>52971072
You got a list?
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>>52971097
Linked it right here. >>52970877
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>>52971131
Reading is hard. Thanks anon
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>>52971137
Happy to help.
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>>52971156
How successful has the deck been for you?
I'm liking what I see, it's a very solid deck as is. Have you tried running a pact/Hive Mind package as well (probably with just Slaughter Pact, as Pact of Negation is problematic)?

Anything on your wishlist for that deck?
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>>52955011
Im a semi-newbie to commander.

Im currently building a rat tribal deck with this as a commander.

What sorceries, enchantments, artifacts can I use to make it silly?
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>>52971309
Forgot pic.

My commander
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>>52971316
Grave Pact
Dictate of Erebos
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>>52971282
Actually I was considering adding something of the sort. I also want to add a Lich w/ Repay in Kind. Honestly a couple more tutors couldn't hurt either.
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>>52971355
>Lich price
Fucking restricted list reee

But otherwise holy shit this is a cool deck anon. Massive props.
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>>52971394
Thanks. It's all due to my unhealthy love of alternate win conditions.
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>>52971309
>>52971316
Dark Prophecy
Tragic Slip
Attrition
Blood Artist
Phyrexian Arena
Altar's Reap
Tormented Thoughts
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>>52971316
Thornbite Staff and two other rats makes you infinite rats.
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I wanted to make a casual kozilek the great distortion deck for group matches, is it doable or is he just bad?
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>>52971656
For casual, hell yeah. He's wonky enough, and since he has no annihilator he's definitely a chill guy
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>>52971656
Everything is playable casually.
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>>52971681
>>52971687
Cool, any suggestions on inclusions? I just have the general ramp artifacts and big eldrazi beats to go with him, anything else I'm overlooking?
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>>52971724
Loreseekers stone is GOAT in that shell - play hard enough control and it becomes a pretty reliable "counterspell" any time you run it. Minds eye, not of this world, and maybe maybe an unwinding clock package with gemstone array are all interesting ideas that you may want to look at.
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>>52966850
Good example. Always forget about that dude.
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>>52967167
Masterpieces tend only go down over time.
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>>52971355
I'm looking at the list, and how are you supposed to get sky swallower to etb on the opponent's side of the field? Also, for this same purpose, leveler does a good job of fucking people over if you can mange that.
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>>52971838
You drop it on your side to throw your lose conditions at your opponents. It seems a last ditch effort.
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>>52971309
Why run all that unnecessary shit when you can just run more relentless rats?
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>>52971811
He's also so much better in EDH than his sister, Platinum Angel.
>drop angel
>people keep punching you for damage
>eventually you're at 0
>angel gets removed
>u ded
vs.
>drop emperion
>people can't punch you
>emperion gets removed
>but you still got a turn or two of not being punched thanks to a single card
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>>52971889
What if one of the C17 was rat tribal with 82% relentless rats?
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>>52971884
That seems not very good to be honest. Even if you give your opponent an immortal coil, with no permanents besides the swallower I doubt you'll get any damage through.

I also hardly see any ways to actually fuck your opponent's over when you've given them lich-type stuff, hardly any direct damage to speak off (although this is dimir of course, so that's pretty tough).

I think the deck would be better in Grixis colors, with enough red to fuel enormous fireballs and fuck your opponents over. You'll also have access to harmless offering then.
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>>52971838
To that effect, are there even cards that allow you to give spells to your opponents? I'd love to do that with Phage, leveler and sky swallower.
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>>52971957
You're misreading my intentions with the deck a bit. Damage is not what I'm looking for, usually I'll send over a loss con then kill their graveyard with bojuka bog, etc.
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>>52971884
It is indeed a last ditch bomb. Not running red restricts my choices on "gifting" effects, so I run all I can.
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>>52971984
Play a Mindslaver, donate a Perplexing Chimera, mindslave the opponent, flash in the sky swallower, swap with chimera. A lot of work, but a total blowout.
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>>52972060
Don't you have a way of pushing through a win when they have a loss-con? Giving your opponent an immortal coil and exiling their graveyard seems all well and good, but what are you gonna do then? You still need to push through damage right?

I am intrigued though. I might try my hand at a grixis version of this. I'd probably go for a meme-commander like tetsuo umezawa to seem inconspicuous, even though I'd probably be better off with Jeleva or Bolas.

>>52972092
So crazy that I might just try it.
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What good is Bounty of the Luxa?
I really like it, and I want to use it in something, but is all it is just really slow ramp?

It's not really worth playing, is it?
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>>52972145
It's pretty bad.
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>>52972140
Well, Immortal Coil kills you immediately and Forbidden Crypt on Draw step, so they don't all need damage. You have pointed out a weakness I didn't seem to notice yet, so I will work on it. Evasion isn't hard to add in Dimir.
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>>52972140
Good luck on yours. A couple more gift targets I haven't acquired yet are Illusions of Grandeur and Midnight Oil.
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>>52972209
Ah yes, I had forgotten about the bounty of unblockable effects in blue. I'm an esperfag so I forgot that the combat step existed for a while there.
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>>52972145
It would need both the effects at the same time to be any good.
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>>52971919
What if your opponent with Platinum Angel is at 0 but swinging at you while you're at 1 life and you play a removal spell on Platinum just before damage is dealt?
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>>52971309
Metallic mimic, coat of arms.

Also, run a ton of relentless rats & thrumming stone.
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>>52972209
>>52972281
Wouldn't platinum angels be a useful addition? If someone counters your donate for example.
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>>52970544
70 bucks is nothing, come back when you start buying reserve list cards for "casual" kitchen table magic
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>>52972513
Then you win, proving that Platinum Angel is worse? What?
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>>52971656
ya its definitely doable, he is a pretty bro level commander honestly. don't focus too much on getting him out though, isn't reliable enough
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>>52972631
Hm. I should make room for one. I know this list needs updating, and I think I had intended to add that before. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Speaking of money cards, what big purchases have you made recently, /edh/?

I bought FTV Nicol Bolas for a Scion of the Ur-Dragon deck, then realized Scion wasn't as good as I thought. It's still a very mean deck that can easily become the archenemy, but losing the copy ability when it's used the first time makes it slightly more difficult to abuse.
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>>52972669
>mfw I have a copy of the abyss for my casual artifact steal sen triplets deck
>mfw I have a copy of mishra's workshop for my kozilek deck
>mfw I bought a gaea's cradle for my seton druidstorm a few months ago
That was just the most recent purchase anon.

>>52972747
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>>52972750
I stand by what I said and you will respect it.
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>>52972671
Not proving anything, I was literally just asking. Although I misstated the question. It was meant to say that Platinum was attacking with several other unblocked creatures.
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I've upgraded my Yidris precon to be a monster in the low tier of my playgroup and I know I need to work on my lands and ramp to take it to the next level.

Keeping cards under $15 what would I want to add to this Yidris Wheel deck for multiplayer games?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/cascade-addiction/

Just want to make sure the spells are all good before I buy the boring lands.
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>>52972947
Oh, if it was a rules question then the opponent would lose before combat damage was dealt. You cast removal in the declare attackers or declare blockers step, the removal resolves and the angel is off the board, the opponent loses the game as a state-based action because he's at 0 life, all his creatures are exiled when he loses, and when the game continues to the combat damage step, there's no damage to be dealt.
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>>52973056
Cool, that's what I thought. I assume the same goes for spells (each at 1 life, he casts Lightning bolt at me and in response I cast the same spell. Figure he'd die and his spell even on the stack just vanishes.).
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>>52973091
Yup. Things on the stack resolve one at a time so yours resolves first, and whenever a player loses from whichever effect, pretty much everything that has to do with that player ceases to exist.
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>>52973142
Thanks!
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>>52972747
Buying an EMA FoW. I feel uncomfortable making that big of a purchase
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>>52972936
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>analyze opponent's decks
>find their flaws
>absolutely cripple them with one or two additions to your deck

My favourite and least favourite part of this game. Once I know how they're vulnerable I can't not exploit that weakness. Then it's rape time over and over because these morons never change up their decks or they just double down on their easily exploited strategy.
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>>52973495
How smart you must be anon for all your keikakus to go through so flawlessly.
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>>52973495
And how do you respond when people just target you first, and then continue to play without you afterward?
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>>52973532
Not really, I just really like the process of doing my homework on strategies and people seem really averse to changing their decks to match their meta. Great shitpost though
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>>52958326
Being the owner of 16 ultra pro satin towers (can post pic if you want as proof) i can assure you these are my FAVORITE deck box, i was sold when i saw a 300 LB man in my LGS drop his edh deck (double sleeved in satin tower) on the floor, then procede to FUCKING BALANCE on the box.

The compartment is a nice touch, but honestly it comes down to the price. Its like 10-12 bucks depending on your shop. Compare that to the shitty plastic ones with the precon commanders "built" for edh, that sell for like 4-5 bucks.

Way better deal in my opinion, Id rather store my babies in solid bricks than that chinese-take out quality garbage any day.
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>>52973621
>People won't pack me on the back for bragging about ruining my meta

It's not a shitpost to sarcastically imply that no one cares anon.
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>>52973619
Before or after they've tried and failed? If you know exactly what they're trying to do and plan accordingly it's tough for them to do any real damage. Especially if they don't adapt.

That and I'll let games drag on and I'll seemingly eek out a win I could have had ten turns ago.

>>52973645
>adapting to your meta is ruining it

Diaper post, my bad.
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>>52973645
Crawwurm/10 made me reply.
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>>52960837
budget gitrog does fine in any non-super tuned playgroup
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>>52971656
You'll be the supreme target every game. Most people go "he got eldrazi. Kill him" and you'll die.

I had the deck for a while. Took it apart after too many "it's not fair you have a 12/12 with haste on turn 4".
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>>52973714
without some of its most important cards?
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TIME TO SETTLE THIS EDHG

YES OR NO TO INVOCATIONS?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12860732
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>>52971309
As a Marrow-Gnawer player, things I would include in any marrow-gnawer deck are: black market, dictate of erebos, thornbite staff, dark realms lili, thrumming stone, atlar of the brood, pack rat, thousand year elixir, grave purge, dark ritual, ashnod's altar, skull clamp, and sidisi.
Get yourself a jet medallion too.
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>>52973668
If you can beat 3+ people all gunning for you, more power to you do.

Being the big fish in a small pond is very impressive.
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>>52973791
Forgot door of destinies. It's huge super quick in almost every game.
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>>52973789
Ugly as fuck.
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>>52973745
without 8 fetches and a crucible its a lot cheaper and can still do fine
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>just bought gay guys and stuff to improve it
What am I in for? Will people kill them as soon as I cast them or are they low-priority?
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>>52973789
Regardless of whether you find them appealing or not, no one can say they're unique or creative.
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>>52973956
They're usually very low priority, people like free card advantage / ramp.
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>>52973816
Keep the shitposting going, you'll save face if you do it hard enough. All that straining is very impressive.
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>>52973668
>building decks that allow you to win 1v3 makes for a fun meta.

Congrats. You and the original anon are that guy at your meta.
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>>52973789
is that the worst mtg art of all time? i don't know how it could be any less appealing.
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>>52973972

This >>52973816 isn't me. Is it so hard to imagine that more than one person doesn't give a shit that you can't understand the social contract?
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>>52973975
It can actually be a lot of fun playing team games, we do it all the time. I understand that you're that one guy who gets angry when he loses or considers counters against the "spirit of the format" but recognize the fact that sometimes people can have fun in ways that you can't.
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>>52973714
Budget Gitrog does fine in the right meta. Dredge Gitrog doesn't work without Crucible which anon said he had at least some of the dredge shell.
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>>52973972
Yep, and how much money do you spend in comparison to the other players?
I'm betting it's original duals vs precons, right?
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>>52974052
>I can rekt my meta so hard and the other players are so fucking stupid for not packing hate
>but they have fun being rekt

People still don't care so you can stop pushing it.
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>>52957707
Adriana guard captain
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>>52974026
>adapting to your meta is ruining it
>if you're doing well you are going against the social construct

Any more tired whining to add? Is blue bad for the format too?
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>>52974059
guess i missed the original point
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>>52974083
It's actually significantly less expensive than the decks it's facing. It's just that a Nevermore can really hose a deck that is entirely dependent on it's commander, especially when it have virtually no answers.

>>52974104
>i don't care SO HARD that i'm going to keep responding just to prove it
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>>52972747
I bought pic related. No regrets.
One of my two favorite cards who is also part of my favorite creature type and my favorite color, and was also my second favorite character in the lore.
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>>52974523
She can be a pain in the ass but I really can't blame you.
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>>52972747
I bought a Mana Crypt and it's pretty cool. I also snagged a verdant catacombs and a marsh flats.
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About to buy a bunch of cards for a new Queen Marchesa deck, but was wondering if I left out anything extra spicy or if there's anything in here that's not as effective as I may think it is. Maybe there's too much removal or not enough creatures or something.

It may not necessarily win often with it, but I'm hoping that introducing Monarchy and playing hybrid pillowfort / group thug will be a fun new addition to the table.

Notable cards:
- Heartless Hidetsugu, Havoc Festival, Mana Barbs, Mogis, Spiteful Visions, and Sulphuric Vortex to kill everyone
- Dictate of the Twin Gods and Wound Reflection to kill everyone even faster.
- Ghostly Prison, Sphere of Safety, Norn's Annex, Island Sanctuary (not drawing doesn't matter if I'm the monarch), Kazuul, and Windborn Muse to not die.
- Deflecting Palm, Master Warcraft, Comeuppance, and Goblin Spymaster for hilarity.
- Humble Defector and Soldevi Sentry for goofy politics.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/political-suicide/

pls send second opinions
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>>52961175
Pat Sajak.
Say it with me, Anon.

Barker was the sex offender that hosted Price is Right
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I'm thinking about replacing Second Harvest in RG Omnath with something else. I don't want another ramp spell or another land and I don't want anything with high CMC. Any thoughts?

Here's the list for reference: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-green-purphoros/
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>>52967831
If you are so bad at deck building that you couldn't figure out how to win without $30 cards then you really need to rethink your life.
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>>52961175
Olivia's Abattoir
The Red Machine (Daretti)
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>>52974902
>implying
Look bud, I get that you're some posturing internet douche, but a $60 deck that can punch above its weight class is rare. At $100 it's a little more realistic.
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>>52975120
Literally any mono or two color deck should not break $75 tops for casual play.
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>>52973644
pics of that box collection pls.
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>>52974127
Adapting to your meta is fine. Hosing your meta so you win the vast majority of games by either taking advantage of a discrepency in knowledge or budget makes you that guy is it actually spelled out right on the philosophy page on the format's website. Do real formats scare you so bad that you need some form of cathartic release from constantly being shit on in competitive environments?
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>>52975241
Why? That seems completely arbitrary and unsubstantiated.
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>>52975451
Not him but I assume less cost for lands.
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>>52975401
>waiting over an hour to get in the last word

You sure showed him.
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>>52975488
Sure, but $60 is one dollar per nonland, assuming a free mana base, which is stingy as fuck.
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>>52975554
>wow you mean you don't lurk this thread all waking hours and have notifications set up to wake you up when someone replies to your shitposts?
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>>52975608
I agree but I see where he's coming from.

>>52975648
No him, just saying.
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>>52974734
I would recommend less pillowfort and more aggro
I built pillowfort marchesa and got bored of it pretty quickly. I rebuilt it and put in more stuff like no mercy, mogis, havoc festival, and gisela and I've had a lot more fun with it
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make new thread pls
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>>52974819
Anyone?
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>>52976160
Parallel Lives.
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>>52976269
Already running it.
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>>52976160
That thing that makes all tokens indestructible, vigilant and all that
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>>52976028
I already have Mogis and Havoc Festival, and was thinking about No Mercy (just the push I need to put that in). Gisela would make me a huge target on my table.

Thanks!
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Best art.
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>>52976131

NEW THREAD
>>52976588
>>52976588
>>52976588
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>>52976565
Sorry but that art is banned.
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>>52976640
My ass
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>>52975401
Which is not at all what he was talking about? He just said that he subbed in hate cards to deal with certain strategies, like subbing in a groundseal to deal with meren for example.

Why are you arguing with a non-existant bogeyman?
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>>52961175
Krenko etb
Sliver Hivelord (implying I play it anymore)
Selesnya tokens (now with interchangeable commanders)
Breya Brouhaha
75% Baral
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