Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52836240

I think it's useful when the party uses it for fluff more than mechanics.

Gestalting has it's place, and I think it can definitely be cool as long as everyone is okay with it and it isn't abused purely for the purpose of being more powerful. Like a Fighter doesn't want to go Paladin, but wants to be a healer/supporty frontliner so he gestalts Cleric.

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Ignore this thread, wait until the other thread is at page 8.

Gonna ask this again because nobody responded the first few times. Anybody have experience with the Dark Elementalist archetype? Any way to make it good? I know LK2 has a pair of feats that make it playable, but what archetypes can I stack on top of it to have more fun with it? Let's assume I'm using the Legendary Kineticist in place of the standard one. Got any good gestalt advice for it? For 1pp and 3pp games, let's assume it's Jollystuff and DSP only

>>52836240
Here are my rules on Gestalt, alright

>1-2 PC party
Gestalt is fine. Pet classes will usually be okay'd
>3-4 PC party
Gestalt is a little finnicky here, though I'd encourage the players to focus more on their specialty. Pet classes will go under scrutiny
>5-6+
Fuck no, gestalt with any more than 4 people is cancer, plain and simple

>>52836240
I'm personally of the opinion that Gestalt is bad outside of some very specific circumstances.

While a lot of players want to be amazing at everything, purity of purpose is honestly kind of important, as the more you spread into, the more you feel like you have to cover, and by design, Gestalt characters are almost always covering at least three roles, and for all that people try to make unique individuals, there's always overlap for the roles.

I don't even know what all the classes in my last gestalt game were, because they were basically just a flat fucking amalgamation of traits and abilities that there was nothing to define them. One was a monk - i have no idea what her secondary class was, because all she ever did was monk shit. Another was some kind of superduelist, dipping into vitalist, aegis, and at least two other classes - no idea what the build was. Another was a complete healbitch paladin, only ever doing healing and face stuff (rarely). My character was a brutal grappler that the only reason they knew what she was is because she was an aberrant aegis focused on grappling - the mass of tentacles is a tad difficult to hide in light of that.

I can't even remember the others; they were too generic, too... flat. Just collections of abilities with no defining feature.

I hate that. i despise that, in fact, and furthermore it makes it really difficult for a GM to make a damn encounter because they have so much shit to memorize just to be certain that the characters aren't going to faceroll everything (like mine did several times)

So is Gestalt good? No, not in my opinion. It's workable when you have an undersized party but for the love of god don't do it to a group large enough for it to cause problems. At that point keeping normal characters straight is enough of a hassle without doubling up.

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>>52835070
I just finished reading over the Avowed, the Selfpact, and the Betrothed archetype. I'm disappointed to realize that they're incompatible, as you can only take the Betrothed archetype if you don't have an esoteric pact (which means no Selfpact).

If you were only not allowed to "just because" then maybe the DM could be convinced to allow an exception, but the Betrothed archetype makes you trade out your Pact Empowerments for Betrothed Empowerments and seeing as Betrothed Empowerments don't exist for Selfpact, the DM would probably need to homebrew custom Betrothed Empowerments (if they don't just let me keep the Pact Empowerments).

That's disappointing, this is a character for Overlewd so I don't think I can get an exception like that. I'll ask MaximumSleep about it, but I'm not very hopeful and should probably look into other options.

>>52836510
Refluffing a different pact into Self would work, basically.

would you let a magus spend an arcana to spend Anima points from Tap Animus in order to enhance his weapon, in place of pool points?

>>52836436
>nothing to define them
>Remembers a duelist, a monk, and a CHA healer

What?
I mean, that's just as much definition as a single classed character could ever get.

So after some googling, I can't seem to find a consensus answer for this: How the hell does Flyby Attack work with action economy?

>When flying, the creature can take a move action and another standard action at any point during the move. The creature cannot take a second move action during a round when it makes a flyby attack.

Does it give you an extra move and standard, or does it let you split your move around your standard? The clause saying that the creature cannot take a second move action during a round when it makes a flyby attack seems to contradict the first clause. Am I reading this wrong?

And do you provoke an attack of opportunity from your target if you attack and move past? It seems like you shouldn't if the feat is modeled after Ride-By Attack, but the feat doesn't say you don't

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>>52836555
What the hell is the point of the pact fluff if you can go "Lol I reflavor any pact into any other pact!"?

>>52836495
went from level 1 to 8
it was a gestalt mythic shitshow
it was horrifying, really

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What kind of enchantment should glossy thighhighs in a treasure hoard have?

What item slot should they be? Slotless? If I make them slotless, then EVERYONE will wear magic thighhighs, right?

>>52836597
Those are actions, not mechanical definitions. Each oif them had way, WAY more abilities than just defined by those "roles" and I can't even remember half of them because they were so unfocused. the CHA healer? don't even know what the second half of her build was. It was just a paladin that was MAYBE one side because she had lay on hands - I have no idea what the other side was.

>>52836649
Foot. They're stockings.

>>52836641
To give a starting point to build off, because there's absolutely nothing more banal than getting a package of abilities with no flavor at all to them.

>>52836555
Yeah, I considered how I could still make the character concept work with Avowed, and I think the options are either to use a different pact and say that pact is responsible for bringing my character and herself together in the same timeline/universe OR play Selfpact without Betrothed and give up on her being able to adventure alongside herself. I'm more attached to my character concept than the build right now and the concept includes "adventures alongside herself" as a pretty important part, so that strikes out the latter as an option. I think at this point I'll either be taking a patron pact and having my PC's alternate version be her patron, or just finding a different class to use like Spiritualist, and refluff the Phantom.

I kinda agree with >>52836641, but that's why I better like the idea of taking a pact where my PC's alt self could plausibly be the kind of creature that you pact with. I'll have to look at all the other pacts now, though, since I didn't before. Which pacts do you think could have a partner that's a powerful humanoid, rather than something like a demon or angel?

>>52836661
>Builds are about what they are on the sheet rather than what a player uses them to do

>>52836436
Role overlap is not inherently bad. "No defining features" is subjective.

>>52836864
I use my build to protect the innocent and fight for my friends!

It helps pull the hunks too!

>>52836864
>>52836932
Eh, I've presented my opinion on the subject and explained why I feel that way. I don't expect anybody to flatly agree with me.

>>52836436
Sounds like you had a shit party

>>52837001
Nah, the GM was just thrust into the position because the last one bailed and she didn't want the game to go under. She wasn't ready for it, and the result was unfortunate.

the party's great, and we've been having a lot of fun since we started a single-classed Kingmaker game; outside of a few frustrating moments, anyways, but those happen in every game that's finding its footing.

>>52837048
>kingmaker
>fun

Oh no its retarded

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>>52836240
>the only times I've actually gotten to play gestalt were in parties with 5+ people
>the only times I've gotten to play in small parties the GM didn't know what gestalt was and didn't use it, while wondering why the two PCs were constantly scrambling to cover their asses

Gestalt looks like something great for small parties, it's just too bad I've yet to actually play it in a small party. A chance to unironically play a Bardadin or an Investigus would be great, let alone trying out a pet/summons class without being paranoid about holding up the other 4 players with my stupid long chain of actions.

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>>52837125

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>>52837168
But its true Kingmaker is garbage

>>52837189
Kingmaker has an objectively inferior story, it's true. that doesn't mean it can't be fun, give the whole, you know, "fun if subjective" shit.

It helps that the GM is competent and knows how to make a villain with more than token involvement in the plot.

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>>52837217
It also has fucking garbage campaign mechanics.

>>52837125
> someone having fun with something you don't
Isn't this a symptom of autism?

>>52837234
>Goalposts
"Competent GM makes it fun" remains a valid point here.

>>52837248
>4chan.org
>>52837262
He'd have a lot easier time with a lot less shitty and imbalanced campaign

Kingmaker is a disaster

>>52837234
What is Pathfinder for 500 Alex

>>52837313
Yeah imagine actively choosing to add BAD subsystems to Pathfinder

>>52837248
Son, I have autism, and that doesn't stop me from letting things go when other people disagree with me. >>52837234 just seems salty about it for whatever reason.

>>52837309
Kingmaker is whatever you want it to be. If you're not having fun, don't play it, but don't get assmad at people who enjoy things you don't, you delayed abortion.

>>52837382
>horrible subsystems are just like, a social construct

>>52837397
Instead of putting words in my mouth, put dicks, you gigafaggot.

>>52837397
Well now you're just complaining for the sake of being contrarian. Have you considered tea? I understand it relaxes you when your muscles are cramping, like your ass must be doing right now.

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Path of War 1 errata when?

Quick history question, was /tg/ even around when the pathfinder core rulebook was released?

>>52837436
they're working on it

>>52837571
Yes, but we were mostly just bitching about 40k then.

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>>52837595
We still bitch about it, really.

I imagine a lot of the 40k memes that have come up over time will leak into Starfinder when it eventually comes out.

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https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4905558/applications-go-here/?pageforid=4948937#post-4948937
>ywn snuggle the snek on the succubed

>>52837595
So in theory I could go to find the very first pathfinder thread ever on /tg/?

>>52837638
I want to snuggle the snake, pet the cat, sleep on the succubed, smack toobie's butt, and FUCK kanna!

>>52837618
I mean, we have confirmation that FTL is basically going to be the warp - we just have a chance of angry angels as well as displeased daemons.

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>>52837675
YFW GM reveals that the lewd was just to get people on board and it's a relatively normal evil campaign

>>52837638
Dom D. really likes that snek, huh?

>>52837738
Which apps seem good for a non-lewd evil campaign then?

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>>52837738
>>52837675
>MFW GM picks all girl characters
>MFW there's an obvious GMPC
>MFW game turns out to be nothing but free ERP for this asshole
>MFW everyone is breeders

>>52837738
heres the secret

most "lewd" games are just normal games with occasional lewd sprinkled in

if lewds all the time the plot just becomes porn-tier

>>52837783
>mfw I start up a MUCK for /pfg/ to be degenerates on.
>MFW i'm too lazy.

>>52837738
You mean like PLD?

>>52837806
Somebody's getting raped every other session, that's not normal.

>>52837738
Then why not advertise it as a normal ass campaign and get people that want a normal campaign.

>>52837759
A good lineup would be:
Lucius, Ecaterina, Olivia, Helvetica, Edward

>>52837865
Because the thread is retarded and doesn't even know what "lewdgame" means.

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>>52837783
I wouldn't mind.

>>52837806
Whats pld

>>52837887
Honestly, yeah. Just use R-rated or something. When someone mentions "lewd" I'm thinking pornographic content and not late night TV.

>>52837917
This is PLD
https://pastebin.com/HYkWUfXT

>>52837905
Sauce?

>>52837963
Shokugeki no Souma, a cooking manga drawn by Hisasi, who used to (and might still) do porn. This semen demon is the heiress to a meat company who specializes in high-intensity meat dishes. She's sort of the first 'enemy' the protagonist faces in the series, and eventually becomes a friend and love interest.

She typically cooks in shorts and a bikini top, ignoring the pain of the oil and fat splatter on her huge titties as the marbled cuts caramelize and render down in a screeching hot pan.

>>52838052

Why does she torture her huge mammaries in such a way?

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>>52838052
Good fucking god.

>>52838052
>Hisasi
Incorrect, it's Tosh.

>>52838094
Japan, that's why.

>>52838106
Was it? My bad.

>>52838094
>>52838095
Her dad wanted her to be as tough as possible to survive in the cutthroat meat industry. She wasn't allowed stuffed animals or dolls, and he made her cooking sizzling meat with little clothing to toughen her to pain.

>>52838052
It's also basically the reverse of Toriko. Toriko basically reads like a battle manga with cooking elements. Shokugeki no Souma reads like a cooking manga with battle manga elements, and it's fantastic.

What's a website where I can upload a 30 mb png world map? imgur shrinks it down too much and the roll20 listing won't let me upload it either

>>52837783
Honestly, there probably wouldn't be too much salt if that happened. To understand why, let's compare and contrast with PLD:
>Overlewd's premise implies a certain level of agency, PLD requires your characters to get raped
>Overlewd's apps are mostly slutty, PLD built up hype by having innocent or cheerful characters getting turned into rape-bait
>Overlewd is being run by some silent no-name, PLD's GM made a point of being notoriously shitty

There's no fanboys drooling over which characters are "pure" because almost all of them are clearly just there to get laid and fuck some peaceful kingdom's shit up. PLD built up hype by baiting people into caring with "These characters are going to get raped and you can't stop it." So when lewd shit does start going down, we're just going to shrug it off and go "Yeah, so?"

>>52838141

That's as silly as a sensei hitting his busty disciple with blunt swords to toughen her skin.

>>52837848
It is in my games...

>>52837759
Probably all the human knightguys, the gnoll, the doctor Linus guy, and Edward

>>52838286
Are your initials RM, or are you Helnar GM?
If not I'm curious how many hardcore lewd games there are running off pfg that I don't know about

>>52838175
Google drive?

BLINGMAKER SOON

Who do you see getting in, and what do you want to see them obsess over or develop with access to unlimited bux?

>>52838262
>Literal breeding sow slutadin
>innocent

>>52838262
What do you get out of complaining about PLD at this point?

>>52838382

I'm disappointed in myself, I've come to like my app less and less over time but I think it's too late to do an overhaul.

>>52838325
No, I'm new. Very unestablished, only started playing here last month.

>>52838416

She's only a breeding sow if she has strong, constant urges to have sex, and insist on them finishing inside.

>>52838382
I think Andrik and Branwen are getting in, and maybe Viviana too. Only thing is, she might be stepping to close to Branwen's shoes, what with both being cute girls with redemption arcs. So if Branwen doesn't make it, I think Viviana will. Aside from that, I have no idea who will fill out the remaining two slots. My personal bias is that a party of four doesn't need more than one full caster, so if I were picking that would mean Antoinette and Evelyn and a few other good apps wouldn't get in because Branwen already fills that spot. I'm not picking though, so who knows? Andrik fills the knightly niche in the same way, but Kyras might stand out as different enough to fit into a party alongside him and is interesting.

>>52838479
You're not going to tell us which app is yours, are you?

>>52837675
>pet the cat
>we have two cats now

on one hand memes will be hard to pin down, on the other now I can shitpost about two characters simultaneously

>>52838479

Which is yours, Senpai? We'll give you a verbal lashing if it's bad enough!

>>52838503

Welcome to the General, friend.

Don't see a 3.5 thread, and this is the closest thing. I have a quick question I need answered.

I'm having my PCs encounter a mimic. If they're unable to determine its a mimic before they're too close, and I get the surprise to go for a grapple, do I just deny that PC their Dex or do I also not give them an attack of op?

>>52837682

>GODDANG MORTALS KEEP KNOCKING OVER MY MAILBOX

>>52838564
They would be flat-footed so their dex should be denied

>>52838382
I stopped editing and updating my app days ago--I feel it's solid enough, and anything more would probably drag it too far from my original vision.

Time to just sit back and let the chips fall where they may.

>>52838521

It's Evelyn

Maybe it's just a retrospective but I'm at the, "What was I thinking?" moment. Even from a mechanics angle I should've gone for something more interesting like a spheres Oracle but one day out I think that Wubu has probably pretty much solidified a lot of his ideas.

>>52838524
whats the other cat?

>>52837682

Oh my god I'm not ready for the Le Heresy players.

>>52838564
They're flat footed, although technically you can only make one action during a surprise round so they'd have to be pretty close in the first place.

>>52838586

Good luck!

>>52838599

If you could, what would you have changed in her story or mechanics?

>>52837671
I don't know if archives excited back then, it might be lost in time.

>>52838619
Well, we also have confirmation the Hellknights are still around, and if ever there was an Adeptus Astartes stand-in for Pathfinder, it's them.

>>52838655

>People are going to be using Aroden as a stand-in for the Emperor

>>52838675
We actually also have necrons, what with the Bone Sages of Eox. They're literally space liches.

>>52838636

I would rebuild into a dhampir crimson countess who gained her powers from putting on a stone mask. I've been really wanting to do a harbinger since I think the mechanics are really neat, but I couldn't get it to work in a way that I liked for background so I just took an easy way out with the oracle. I like support roles so it was like, a cop out.

>Overlewd has 37 apps in one week
>RotJR broke 50, if memory serves
What /pfg/ game is actually the record-holder for most apps in the shortest time?

>>52838704
And the swarm are basically tyranids, aren't they?

>>52838748

And the Dominion of the Black are Chaos.

>>52838599
You've got the TTG-equivalent of buyer's remorse. You just finished putting down some investment and now you're second guessing yourself on whether you made the right choice. I think thats pretty normal.

I like Evelyn, if that makes you feel better. There's still time to keep working on your app if you want, too. If you want advice from a nobody that didn't even have the guts to apply at all, I think Evelyn should have more motivation than just wanting to help people. Give her something that she wants to do for herself, it will humanize her more because no real person only wants to help others. Even if you want to keep the focus on her compulsive need to make up for her past deeds, you should probably be able to fit in some kind of guilty pleasure or something.

>>52838601
I have no idea what your definition of "other" is in this context, so here's both of them

>fiendish cat is an ex-familiar and thought his master dying meant it was his time to live the high life, but he is in fact too autistic to cat properly
>human girl who was such a petty asshole she got turned into a cat by the gods, but this just made her into an even worse petty asshole, now with curse magic because of course

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>>52838755
And the Vesk are apparently a warrior race that eschews higher learning outside of unusual ones.

they're not fungus or funny, admittedly, but that makes for a solid ork stand-in. Especially since they're still green..

Is there a way for Avowed to heal instead of damage with pulses (or otherwise restore HP, actually)?

>>52838784

The Vesk would've been better if they were heavily implied to be an uplifted race of genetically modified lizards by the setting's stand-in for the Syrinx.

Or hell, throw out the lizards entirely and make it Space Strix, who are conspicuously similar to Turians.

How is the technician class for SoM as a support character?

>>52838819
Lifeleech Pulse?

>>52838865
Is that the only option available?

I was hoping for some kind of x/day cure clause to be hidden away in a google doc somewhere.

>>52838629
>>52838585
Mimic has 10ft reach and would only need a standard to start the grapple. So it would just be denying their Dex then? That PC would still get an Attack of Opportunity?

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>>52838848
Too late now. I'll note that the vesk really aren't BAD, they're just not that great.

The Shirren, though? I love me the bugs. They're exactly the sort of weird that I like.

>>52838909
no. Flat footed.

>>52838769
To be fair, cats are petty assholes.

>>52838918

>Could've had a PC hivemind race
>Nope sorry they're fiercely Chaotic Good

Jacoooooooobs!

>>52838971
>PC
>Hivemind
Somethings are just best left to monsters.

>>52836240
any ETA on upcoming avowed changes?

Opinions on Path of War and Path of War Extended?
They look to me to be Tome of Battle PF edition, do they hold up as well as ToB did?

>>52839029
Man you do not come here often do you

>>52839035
No. No I don't.

>>52839029

Path of War is arguably the only reason this General is still alive.

Well, that and Spheres.

>>52839029
You are legit better just porting the ToB classes to PF than using Path of War.

>>52839048
Doesn't /pfg/ think Spheres of Might is a dumpster fire?

>>52838997
We know what the /pfg/ hivemind would be like anyways.

>>52839048
hello, time traveler
how's summer 2016 treating you?

currently the only reason this general is still alive is circlejerking to roll20 games and "celebrity characters"

>>52839071
BUT WE LOVE SPHERES OF POWER

>>52839071
it is a dumpster fire

i'm sure he meant spheres as in of power not as in of might

>>52839075
thicker
THICKER
THIIIICCKKKEEERR

https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4905558/applications-go-here/?pageforid=4942986#post-4942986

>>52839082
I want to do XXX to (Your Character)!

>>52838997
I dunno, collectives have been quite handy!

Would destroying the moaning diamond, or any of its counterparts, release the elemental lord trapped within?

>>52838479
>>52838757
You have to ask yourself

"If I get an invite on Monday, am I going to be happy to be playing this PC in this campaign?"

If the answer is yes, it's fine. If the answer is no, you should just cut to the chase and withdraw your app because you'd either turn Wubu's invite down or want to change your character midcampaign.

>>52838757
>INVESTMENT

SELL BARA BUY THICC

>>52839184
>buying GAY at all

>>52839029
Alright, a quick summary:
-Considerably bigger versatility in character build ideas. With the discipline switching methods, you can basically pick and choose what disciplines you want on the class chassis that you prefer.
-Ranged options, although limited. Plus, ranged still works with defensive/movement maneuvers so there's a chance you might pick a melee-strike only discilpine just for swift action teleports and the counters.
-Lower optimization floor. This is both a pro in that there's no real trap choices, but a con in that it will force the rest of the party to use a certain degree of optimization lest they get left behind. Similarly, the DM will have to build encounters around your abilities
-Significantly increased damage output. Short of natural attack builds, archerdin, ubercharger and a couple others, non PoW characters won't be able to keep up in damage with a damage-focused build.
-Limited noncombat utility. Most of the versatility you'll get from PoW is in combat-buffs/debuffs, movement mode enablers, and bonus senses. There's a few extra things here and there, but in most cases this is what you get. However, initiators are encouraged to get some decent skill modifiers and mental scores due to class features/maneuvers heavily encouraging such.
-Broken Blade is outright busted in damage potential, Primal Fury is too strong with natural attack builds, and some other disciplines could use a rebalance as well.

>>52839184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YhRWv61eoA

>>52838918
Kind of remind me of the Vath from Heavensward.

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>>52839201
>Primal Fury is too strong with natural attack builds

You mean with charging and with Powerful Build.

>>52839184

But THICC needs BARA to function!

>>52839238
no it doesn't

>>52838514
Guess what? She does.

>>52839215
With 2hander builds it isn't that stronger when compared to other disciplines. The Frenzy strikes go crazy with a bunch of natural weapons in the pack, which is what causes most of the damage issues.

>>52839206
Oh yeah. that bit was actually pretty cool.

The Ravana Fight wasn't bad, though it could have been better. the music was not bad, though, if a bit... odd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV_IP4mNJCI

What's the trick to ultimate skill monkey-ness, /pfg/? I don't mean just having the most ranks per level, I mean the biggest bonuses to your skills on top of full ranks and being able to use those skills for actually useful things. Do I need a lot of Skill Unlocks? Which ones are best?

>Betrothed is the perfect class to build yourself a waifu
>Can't bring myself to go full degeneracy mode and open a portal to my magical realm
Life's tough, isn't it?

>>52839170

And if you ask yourself that, and find yourself unable to give an immediate answer, you should probably withdraw.

You might have good days, you might have bad days, but at the end of it I don't think you'll find it was worth all that time - because let's be honest with ourselves here, that 3-4 hours can be put to other uses.

I wish Overlewd had a level 3 start. I hate rusty dagger shanktown.

>>52838521
>I think Andrik and Branwen are getting in,

Cute!

>>52839306

Guardian Spirit does the exact same thing, only without the hassle of a second character.

>>52839258

Has she had any urges yet?

>>52839303

The Investigator is probably the way to go.

You're a 6+INT skill ranks on an INT based class so if you don't have oodles of skills you're doing it wrong, Inspiration gives you a number of +1d6 or 1d8 to many skill rolls and with proper talent allocation you can do that for free on a lot of your skills.

Signature Skill would eat up a lot of feats, but on the other hand most skill unlocks aren't really that good.

>>52839356
Psychic Skill Unlocks are what I wish normal skill unlocks would do

>>52839238
THICC and SMOL go gret together!

Especially with SMOL as the dominant stock

>>52839353
She had some in session 0.

Almost had one in session 2, but the manticore picked the virgin over the used goods. Even monstergirls know that pure = best.

>>52839303
See>>52839356
Except be an Empiricist Half-Elf and take its Investigator FCB (+1/4th level to anything you add inspiration to). Take Skill Focus (Linguistics) and Orator. Congratulations, you're now the party face AND the party knowledge monkey. Your only weakness is that you're going to suck absolute dick in combat if your GM isn't using feat-tax rules and starting you at level 3.

>>52839306
You don't need to open a portal into your magical realm, just a portal into her pants. And a portal like that... It's easy enough to hide.

>>52839356
Investigator is something I was considering, yeah. The main thing that's holding me back is that I I more want new things to do with skills than just being better at skills. Both would be ideal though. I'd consider Unchained Rogue if I liked more of the skill unlocks.

>>52839376
Yeah, same.

>>52838547
Thanks, Anon. I used to come here a bunch, but I went kinda cold turkey for awhile. Now that the missus left, I'm back in the saddle!

>>52839249

THICC works best when they're shacking with big BARA!

>>52839466
THICC works best with SS

>>52839306
What's a betrothed and wheres it from?

>>52839410

Well, when you're a ravenous beast interested only in how many children the woman can provide, you'd rather want a woman of confirmed fertility! You wouldn't sail into untested waters, would you?

>>52839507
avowed archetype
check the playtests pastebin

So who's the THICCest in Overlewd?

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>>52839478
isn't that likely to occur in one of the dragons games?

>>52839528
>>52839478
Dual question: Who is the THICCest, and who is the most /SS/?

>>52839450
>The main thing that's holding me back is that I I more want new things to do with skills than just being better at skills.
For that you probably need to step into either homebrew territory or play a new game territory.

>>52839528
Umbranae, the Troll, or the Gnoll. Those are likely to be the thiccest

>>52839528
Either Umbranae or 4916.

>>52838757

Thanks for the vote of confidence

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If I have two foci, can I use both augments simultaneously?

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Alright, new version of the blingfighter, which has been renamed to the Forge Warden: now with possibly overpowered capstones!

gib feedback pls

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qoJozyiVWR5Twr1Kty0uUkL10hRhf2lvUeKMumkiQMw/edit?usp=sharing

>>52839539

Did that show come out before or after Dragons? Because I'm kinda surprised nobody went with a woman that THICC.

>>52839673
My only real complaint is that it's basically feat-taxed Master Craftsman in order to access magical crafts.

It looks solid and fun to play, and the Capstone feels suitably dramatic for basically playing the blacksmith hero class.

>>52839828
>Calsi
>the latest events of LIO
>Astarte's new half dragon form
>The fact that Zev is literally a maid dragon

oh I am laffin.

>>52839426
1 Level of Inspired Blade Swashbuckler.

Now you're fine in combat.

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>>52839570
Gnolls have gross warped bodies. They're also not 8 feet tall, especially since that would make them Large mechanically. this character's weight is also well below where it should be for her listed height which, again, is wildly inaccurate. so I must assume they are very skinny. NOT thicc

The troll should also be gross, but the backstory mentions being created by wizards. Wizards have no sense of right or wrong so maybe it's believable. Either way she seems more of a musclegirl which is not the same as thicc. POSSIBLY thicc

Umbrane had the highest weight/height ratio if I remember which does imply thicc, but she also has a tail, wings, and extra heads. but perhaps the player didn't factor these things into the weight because the character art is definitely thicc. LIKELY thicc

>>52839877
>>>dips

god I hate this system

>>52839828
... I thought half of Dragons 1 *WAS* that thicc?

That show is from a Manga which has been around substantially longer than either dragon game.

>>52839898
Dragons 1 is full of THICC

i even forgot to mention Lameeka, and Freyda

>>52839897
>dips
>a bad thing
You're not getting that dumb fucking capstone anyway. What's the issue?

>>52839353
She's full of corruption from healing now, so she'll probably be on the prowl for a spell.

>>52839898
Dragons 1 is the THICC game for sure. Freyda, Lameeka.

Dragons 2 just has the tittymonster red dragon, but I don't think they're THICC

>>52839896

Overlewd monsters are very clearly anime inspired, which means they're all babes and need semen to live.

>>52839960

Calsi is confirmed thicc.

>>52839988
Confirmed by who?

>>52838819
There are apparently plans for a healing avowed archetype.

So, one day. Definitely not now.

Am I missing something or is Bull Rush kind of... total shit?
How do I into moving enemies around good?
I want to, like, push an enemy to my ally, then flank the guy with him, not knock a guy back one square.

>>52839960
Calsi is THICC and so is Lio now

Aurora is confirmed Pettanko, Rinka is flat and smol

The other two are boys.

>>52839522
Oh.
I've heard of them but never really bothered with any /pfg/ homebrew at all. They a martial type character or casters or what?

>>52839353
>Having a second character is a hassle and not a blessing

What a casual.

>>52840017
Reposition maneuver.

>>52840002

Have you seen her art? It emphasizes her tits sure, but then you get an itty bitty waist, generous hips, thick thighs and a huge bubble butt.

>>52840034
it's just warlock from 3.5 but with more variety

>>52840017
If 3pp is allowed, PoW's Fool's Errand discipline is exactly your thing.
Usually when I recommend Fool's Errand to people I say "It has a focus on a new Lock mechanic and repositioning, but you can ignore that half and still find fun things", but in your case-

Yeah. You want Lock.

>>52839936
>delaying alchemy/casting
>delaying the FCB
>delaying Studied Combat

I didn't say it was a bad idea, I'm saying it's stupid that you have to do it and I absolutely loathe it.
Investigator pre-5th level is a fucking mess that desperately needs a second fix archetype that drops the trap shit for actually making the class fucking functional.

>>52839956
Hopefully she has a moment to scratch that itch with someone, a sexually frustrated Gloriana sounds like fun.

>>52839353
Look, even though you only basically have the same power you would otherwise as a single character, the two characters combined do have several advantages.

For one thing, just "splitting your attacks" is already a small boon against larger numbers of weaker foes. The ability for multitargeting helps, the extra perception checks help, you're basically getting to be in two places at once AND adding up to very-marginally more than the sum of your parts.

>>52840060
>it has a focus on a new Lock mechanic and repositioning, but you can ignore that half and still find fun things
Explain because Lock seems pretty fucking necessary if you want to use Fools Errand.

>>52840094
You can just punch dudes and run on thin air.

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>>52840079
The real question is whether she'll hook up with a party member or with an NPC

>>52840043
Oh, I forgot about that. That might do.

>>52840060
I'm actually coming off a FE initiator in a game that died off recently. It was great. I'm looking to do something even remotely similar to that but without PoW.

>>52840094
There's some great stuff in there like maneuver mimicking, a counter that also disarms the enemy and lets you wield their weapon, anime infinite double jumps stance, the one punch from one punch man, etc.

>>52840110
It still seems really underwhelming. Especially on an unarmed character who isn't using Busted Blade stances.

>>52839510
I think it should've grabbed at least two girls.

>>52839861
I can see that, but at the same time

1) It's able to transfer enchantments between weapons, so it's only a problem if you have NO crafter at all (and it's only weapons you *made* yourself, not enchanted yourself)
2) Fighter's the one class where feat tax isn't as much of an issue.

>>52840094
Things Fool's Errand can do that don't focus on lock
>Counter enemies and steal their weapons for yourself
>Make your melee strikes hit enemies from 30ft away
>Throw enemies 30+ feet as a swift action (Admittedly there's a bit of lock mixed in here but it's optional sometimes)
>Mimic other maneuvers
>Jump through the air for pseudo flight
>Have your punches create shockwave cones
>Flatfoot enemies like no tomorrow
>Chain maneuvers like a fighting game
>Pseudo Martial Flexibility with its style feats

>>52840270
>Counter enemies and steal their weapons for yourself
So worthless unless you specialize in the weapon their using, which is unlikely since the discipline has unarmed focus.
>Meele strike 30 feet away
Oh boy, I can attack something in fucking charging distance! Wonderful.
>Have your punches create shockwave cones
Oh boy. 1d3+5 fucking reflex for half. So devastating!

GM said the following to us, wondering if people agree with it:
>I try and play enemies as smart as they're meant to be. I'd be being really generous if I said I was 12 int, I'm probably closer to 9 or 8, so enemies you fight with shit like 20-24 int are gonna be as fucking clever as I can make them.

But shit is really fucking hard. Especially with shit like hobgoblins, he keeps saying "they're career soldiers, they don't take stupid risks if they lived past the first few years". I just don't want to get ass fucked by hobgoblins all the time. It's bullshit.

>>52840307
>Oh boy. 1d3+5 fucking reflex for half. So devastating!
Oh, it's vs AC. My mistake.

>>52840119
Why not both?

>>52840079
We'll see!

>>52840318

Sounds like you need to git fucking gud

>>52840318
Depends on what tactics their using.

>>52840307
>discipline has unarmed focus.
discipline literally has "all weapons" as discipline weapons you plonker

>>52840318
Tell him that terrain is a larger CR modifier than hit points

>>52840270
>Chain maneuvers like a fighting game
How? I didn't really notice that?

>>52840362
And look at all the fucking skills that call out needing to use unarmed strikes. Discipline weapons mean jack fucking shit unless there's a hard fucking restriction. Which Fools Errand technically has.

>>52840318
sounds like you're a big bitch in a game for big men

>>52840382
there's like 2 unarmed stances and a punch maneuver
everything else is "attack"
there's also those full-attack-but-better maneuvers which are some unarmed, some armed
it even gives you monk's "make unarmed attacks with your dick if you want" class feature

>>52840345
One of the worst was two hobgoblins with the run feat that lead us into an ambush.

>we see two hobgoblins
>they begin booking it, fast enough so they're just out of charge range
>continue until we head into a building (this was in an abandoned city)
>doors get shut behind us
>two hobgoblins grabbed onto rope ladders, other hobgoblins pulling rope ladders up to second floor
>second floor overlooks the first (place was a brothel apparently, up stairs had large inner balcony overlooking bar/floor room area)
>second floor has group of hobgoblins with bows
>they start firing down on us
>they filled the stairs with broken furniture/other shit

We tried climbing over the furniture, didn't work, so I broke down the door they shut behind us and kill the guy they left out there to barricade it. We managed to get out of there but two of us were brought below 0.

>>52840394
>>52840341
I didn't fucking sign up for this shit. I signed up to be a hero.

>>52839272
>martial charge
>Zenith strike
>+damage on a charge boosts

Primal Fury is nuts.

>>52840448
sounds to me like you signed up to be a fuccboi who gets to just start at level 16 with a harem of elf babes succing his dick constantly

but instead you got a game where you have to work up to that like real people

>>52840318
The 'how smart should smart monsters be' question has been around basically as long as DnD, you aren't going to get a single perfect concrete answer here.

>>52840428
Key term here is
>tried climbing over the furniture, didn't work
>didn't work

Did it not work because you were still getting fired on, and couldn't get over fast enough? Because while this is a mean, mean thing to pull on your players, this trap was legitimate.

But if it's "didn't work" as in GM just goes "lol nope you ded faggit" THEN we've got an asshole who you should walk out on.

>>52840461
That's more an issue of the Zenith strike line than the primal fury boosts themselves.

>>52840419
>lesson II
>One two punch
>Steel Shattering Fist
>Best Weapon There is
>Wind Mill Waltz
>Blade Dancing Ballet
>Lesson V
>Tempest Tango
Fuck off if you don't think Fool's Errand expects you to go unarmed.
>

>>52840428
This sounds like a really great encounter. Well thought-out, fair but challenging as the enemies have the advantage, fits the creatures' tactics too. What's the problem, here? Are you upset the hobgoblins didn't just engage you on flat terrain and let you shit all over them?

>>52840428
>getting baited that fucking hard
DM should have called a Sense Motive on that, but still. That's nasty, but fair. Should have packed a range option to return fire back at them.

>>52840482
fool's errand is built for mixing unarmed and armed
you can easily forego one of those halves and it is still a functional discipline to cherry pick good stuff from
also why are you so upset

>>52840307
>Oh boy, I can attack something in fucking charging distance! Wonderful.
Or you know, competently switch hit and target flying enemies from level 3 onwards in a way that still uses all your melee investment.


>So worthless unless you specialize in the weapon their using, which is unlikely since the discipline has unarmed focus.

>Be me in a level 8 optimized evil initiator party
>Boss of a dungeon was a level 20 mid-op knight disciple paladin
>She's tearing into the party, until-
>She tries to attack me, I counter, and steal her +5 holy weapon
>Useless for me, but I sneak attack her, halve her speed, and teleport away with veiled moon, leaving her unarmed and surrounded by the rest of my allies

I dunno, it was pretty good.

>Oh boy. 1d3+5 fucking reflex for half. So devastating!

What is rule of cool anon and do you ever enjoy having fun

>>52840461
Seriously. Everyone shits on Primal Fury but Scarlet Throne is where the real fucking busted shit is at.

How can you make a jojo stand in pathfinder? Just use a summoner?

>>52840482
Except its unarmed takes hardly any investment.
You don't even need improved unarmed strike.

It's king if you focus less on weapon damage and have abilities that add bonus dice to every attack you make, like stances or sneak attack.

>>52840476
>Did it not work because you were still getting fired on, and couldn't get over fast enough? Because while this is a mean, mean thing to pull on your players, this trap was legitimate.
Couldn't get over fast enough. When our fighter tried the hogbolins focused their fire on him and he went unconscious.

They didn't go for the kill after knocking people out. Our druid, who knew goblinoids, hear the commander shouting to make sure to leave us alive for interrogation.

>>52840513
The only one of us with anything approaching a decent ranged option was me. Our druid could have climbed up but would have been the only one on the second floor and didn't want to get his teeth kicked in.

>>52840486
I just feel like it was bullshit because once we were in the place we were basically fucked unless we broke the doors down. I got lucky and rolled really well with my animal companion helping me.

>>52840539
avant garde kineticist

it even used to have an ability called "stand together" but i think they changed the name for being too obvious

>>52840523
>you know, competently switch hit and target flying enemies from level 3
Flying Enemies are probably going to be a lot higher off the ground than 30 feet.
>What is rule of cool anon and do you ever enjoy having fun
Being fucking useless is fun . 1d3+5 damage is fucking WORTHLESS by the time you come online. even if you're hitting multiple people
>>52840520
>you can easily forego one of those halves and it is still a functional discipline to cherry pick good stuff from
You can't use Fools Errand with unarmed attacks only and still be competent.

>>52840539
There's a few options

>Summoner with an Eidolon
>Spiritualist (vanilla or fractured mind)

If you go 3pp

>Spheres of Power, Conjuration Sphere, Bound Creature with the Incorporeal type
>Avant Guard Kineticist
>Dread that retains the shadow

>>52840564
anon would you scream and shit yourself if your party tripped a fireball trap in a dungeon and everyone got knocked unconscious

>>52840539
> Just use a summoner?
A summoner makes a piss poor stand user for a variety of reasons both fluff wise and mechanically.
>>52840565
Listen to this guy.

>>52840585
I think traps are often pretty bullshit honestly.

>>52840569
>You can't use Fools Errand with unarmed attacks only and still be competent.
yes you can

>>52840600
No you can't.

>>52840598
I think you might be more interested in a noble intrigue or merchant campaign rather than a campaign where you fight enemies and go on adventures because you're a total bitch.

>>52840579
>Summoner with an Eidolon
>Spheres of Power, Conjuration Sphere, Bound Creature with the Incorporeal type
>Spiritualist(Vanilla)
Don't listen to these options, they aren't stands.

>>52840604
yes you can

>>52840631
No you can't

Can we just say how many times we're going to this?

>>52840626
You can also make a stand by being an arcane spellcaster with a Figment familiar, using it to deliver thematic spells.

>>52840643
yes you can

i've got all day

>>52840658
>>52840643
Can both of you shut the fuck up.

>>52840644
No you can't Stand users don't have verbal and somatic components. Stands aren't outsiders. Stands aren't magical beasts.

The only way you're emulating a Stand User is being a Psychic Caster or Psionic Class.

>>52840676
no i can't

>>52840683
Stands can be anything famalam

I can be a Stand user by being an Oracle with that one curse that locks them into a location

>>52840683
Alternatively be a Sphere Caster with NO drawbacks taken. That's the most accurate way to simulate stand attacks.

>>52840704
pretty sure we've got an animebabby here in the middle of part 3 who thinks all stands are humanoids that battle their enemies by attacking them

in which case, avant guard kineticist is, in fact, the best choice
it even makes you put loads of points into CON, helping emulate how absurdly tough everyone is in jojo

>>52840704
No they can't.

There is no instance of a stand being rendered non functional by the user being unable to talk and usually by the user being unable to move
>>52840724
He's referring to Sugar Moutnain from Part 7. Stands come in a variety of forms.

FUCKING NONE OF THEM ARE PROPERLY EMULATED BY A VANCIAN CASTER WITH VERBAL AND SOMATIC COMPONENTS

>>52840752
fuck anime

So a magical weapon's price is jut determined by the bonus given by whatever magic power it has right? So all magic powers that list themselves as a +1 bonus in theory will cost the same?

>>52840752
>verbal components
Is ORAORAORAORAORA not a verbal component?
>Somatic components
When has a Joestar ever NOT struck a fucking amazing pose when using a stand? Checkmate gaytheists

>>52840752
kakyoin's stand sure as hell didn't work when he couldn't move in the world, anon :^)

verbal and somatic components are actually great for a stand character because they force you to strike bizarre poses and shout the names of your attacks loudly

>>52840752
>Somatic Components
Chocolate Disco
Mandom
Any stand that functions around an object
Any stand that has a signature trigger action, like Kira pressing his thumb to activate his bombs

>Verbal components
ANYONE YELLING THEIR STAND NAME OUT

>>52840752
>There is no instance of a stand being rendered non functional by the user being unable to talk and usually by the user being unable to move
In a Silent Way likely would be stopped if Sandman was rendered unable to make noise.

>>52840776

Yup, a Keen Longsword and a Flaming Longsword cost the same.

>>52840785
>Is ORAORAORAORAORA not a verbal component?
It's not. It's a vocalization the user makes. It by no means is necessary for the stand to be able to use it's powers.

Stands are literally psychic manifestations.
>When has a Joestar ever NOT struck a fucking amazing pose when using a stand?
Several times. Not to mention all the non Joestar stand users.

>>52840785
>Is ORAORAORAORAORA not a verbal component?
It's not. It's a vocalization the user makes. It by no means is necessary for the stand to be able to use it's powers.

Stands are literally psychic manifestations.
>When has a Joestar ever NOT struck a fucking amazing pose when using a stand?
Several times. Not to mention all the non Joestar stand users.
>>52840795
>somatic component stands/bound object stands
Exceptions, not rules.

>ANYONE YELLING THEIR STAND NAME OUT
THEY DON'T NEED TO DO THAT THOUGH. They don't always do it and it requires no extra effort.

That's just a Japanese trope they do because anime.

>>52840807
>the user makes
its the stand that makes those noises you nincompoop

>>52840831
It's both sometimes. And in that case it's the effect making the noise, and it isn't necessary for the effect to take place. Stands are (usually) projections of psychic power. They are the "spells" in this instance. Crazy Diamond wouldn't stop working because he can't say "DORA DORA".

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How much does /pfg/ like animal ears and animal tails?

>>52836240
Bad, only way I would ever allow Gestalt in a 4+ PC party was if I were running some kind of theme. Like this game is sort of a kung-fu action flick you all get gestalt in Monk, or you're a traveling group of performers and get gestalt in Bard. etc. You all come from a tribe of lion shamans, you all get gestalt in Druid (Lion Shaman) etc.

>>52840831
>>52840863
The user makes noise through the Stand.

>>52839568
In Overlewd or in general?

>>52840913
This specific instance is for Overlewd, but you can extend it to in general afterwards

>>52840901
the user doesn't actually control the stand beyond ordering it what to do, in most cases

>>52836625

You're probably reading it wrong, somehow.
You take one move action during which at any point you can take a standard action, it's more like spring attack then Ride-By Attack, except that you do provoke an Attack of Opportunity. (Which is usually worked around by having superior reach/altitude or using acrobatics)

>>52840805
Is it the same for all types of weapons with the same enhancement? So like a merciful long sword and merciful great axe or something both cost two thousand? Also, if caster level doesn't really have any impact on cost, is there any reason to take a compassionate weapon over a merciful weapon?

>>52840933
That's blatantly false outside of automatic/parasitic stands though.

>>52840955
a merciful weapon is straight up better, because to kill a creature with nonlethal requires you to have dealt 2x their total HP. Something you are highly unlikely to do.
That and Golden Legion's Stayed Blade is straight up better than Compassionate.

Anons, is the greatest Quality Build for Gestalt a Fractured Mind/Exciter Spiritualist // Paladin going an archery route?

>>52840955
>two thousand
no, they'd cost eight thousand because you can't have a merciful longsword
it has to be a +1 merciful longsword

>>52840922
Well I think THICCest in Overlewd has been answered.

THICCest overall? Someone from one of the Dragons games for sure. Probably Freyda. Perhaps Umbranae could out-THICC her, but I don't think that comparison should be made when Overlewd doesn't have a real roster.

>>52840683
When anon says he wants to be a stand user, I don't think he's concerned with it actually being accurate to the manga. I think he just wants to have a powerful entity that he summons and fights for him.

>>52841000
CALSI WILL DOMINATE THE THICC

>>52838564
I don't think 3.5 has surprise rounds, it would start a grapple and everyone rolls initiative from there.

Regardless the PC would be flat-footed and unable to make an AoO unless they had the combat reflexes feat.

>>52841010

But how will she make her figure even thicker?

>>52841000
Well yes, but you only answered half of the question.

>>52841010
>implying the shapeshifter won't outdo them all when they're bored

How can non-shapeshifters even compete?

The bannerman is a combatant of grace and skill, and his faith in both himself as a symbol as well as in his allies assists his defense. When fighting with a ranged weapon (such as with a bow or a crossbow), or with a one-handed or light weapon in one hand nothing in the other (or with a buckler and/or an inspiring banner, see below) and wearing medium or lighter armor, the bannerman gains a +1 dodge bonus to his Armor Class per four warlord levels.
This ability replaces the bonus feat gained at 1st level.
Does this mean that if I wear no armor it won't work?
Or is it still working?

>>52840874
I'm fond of horns.

Expressive tails are good.

>>52841024
Well I am not versed in the ways of /ss/ so I must defer to another expert

>>52841002
Then you're either wrong,a mind reader, or Anon is fucking stupid and should have said summoner.

Stand User implies a certain set of features and criteria. If you don't want to be as accurate to the idea of a Stand User as possible, then don't fucking say stand user.

It's like saying "I want to be Luffy" and deciding he just wants to punch things and not engage with the stretchy arm stuff.

>>52841023
TRUE
DRAGON
SIZE
INCREASES
AND
STAT
BONUSES

>>52841029
Shapeshifters are like implants.

>>52841051
medium or lighter armor should also include no armor by RAI
but by RAW it would turn off if you didn't have armor on

>>52840991
I'm checkign the nonlethal damage rules and I think all it says is when nonlethal damage exceeds current total hit points the creature falls unconscious. Compassionate just deals normal damage but when they go under they immediately set to -1 hp and stabilize. The golden legion feat does exactly the same but it costs a whole feat.
>>52840998
Fug. Figuring out the costs of magic stuff has always seemed kinda complicated to me. I don't suppose there's a calculator for it somewhere is there?

>>52840017
Whip Fighter brah.

But it sounds like you want Re , Bullrushing is better for knocking mooks into each other or into pit traps or something. (Which repositioning sucks at.)

>>52841061
Shapeshifters are ALL NATURAL.

>>52841128
shapeshifters are literally unnatural

>>52841083
The text doesn't SAY you can avoid killing something outright, is the thing. If I were a GM, I'd rule that "yes, you blowing money on that enchantment would have it work the same way", but my paranoia about shitty RAW is kicking into gear.

>>52841128
nah its a disguise bonus

Fake as implants my dude.

>>52841150

They're as natural as Apple Pie and condoms, anon.

>>52841061
>>52841023
>>52841010
Eagle also asked me if I'd be okay with her getting a "growth spurt" at 5th level when I pick up half-dragon form

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>>52841179

>>52841171
>as natural as condoms
Exactly the point!

>>52841179

You're going to smother any man you bed with those things, anon.

For the main issue with stands it is that I am uncreative at making characters and things.
>>52840724
>anime only
I'm insulted you would call me that anon
>>52841002
No I would want to follow the rules of the manga.

>>52841193
Or woman anon.

>>52841083
Oh. In that case compassionate is better for things that are immune to non lethal damage, like undead.

>>52841201

Women typically aren't in positions where they risk getting volleyball-sized tits smashing into their face.

>>52841195
The Avant Garde, refluffed Psionic manifester, or a Spheres of Power Caster with no drawbacks.

>>52841193
>>52841201
I'm pretty sure she can already smother Rinka just fine.

>>52841211
Wrong again

>>52841193
>>52841201
Isn't there some magical item that lets you not need to breathe? Ring of Sustenance but for air?

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What kinds of NPCs do you want to see in Overlewd?

What kinds of heroes should they antagonize?
What sorts of minions should they recruit?
What studly men should get put in an amazon position by[/url] those thicc ladies?

>>52841000
Calsi has the better hourglass figure, but if you're talking about actual T H I C C, then Freyda's currently topping it I think.

>>52841179
like so that that half-dragon form is THICC, or do you mean on top of whatever size half dragon form gets

>>52841225
UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMORS

>>52841254
Whoever their main antagonist is, he's gotta be a Good guy. Like a real superhero!

>>52841276

I'm willing to bet Calsi's tits weigh as much as Rinka, she can absolutely smother the rat with those things.

>>52841264
>but if you're talking about actual T H I C C

Uhh... An hourglass figure *is* thicc, it's an emphasis on the thickness of sex characteristics of which Calsi has huge examples of.

>>52841306
Dragons2 measurements are all done in terms of Rinkas

1 rinka weighs 50 lbs and is 3'4" tall.

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>>52841225
>Rinka

Friendly reminder: https://www.f-list.net/c/rinka%20rat

>>52841318
delet this.

>>52841271
Right, so

The plan was always to have half-dragon form be like 7 feet tall and thicc and for the True Dragon size increases to reflect on tiddy size (and perhaps hips, butt, etc). This plan is still in place.

On top of that Eagle asked me if I'd be okay with a "growth spurt" for Calsi's human form and thought gaining half-dragon form would be a good spot for it. We didn't plan any other specifics for it.

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>>52841318
one one hand
>them sensible faves

on the other hand
>no images
>timezone

>>52841306
Yeah, but Calsi's still got the narrow waist.

Freyda... does not.

>>52841385
Whats wrong with MST?

>>52841396

You can have a narrow waist and still be THICC, you know.

Hell, I'd argue a narrow waist emphasizes the thickness of the hips and chest more than having some padding around the middle.

>>52841015
3.5 definitely has surprise rounds, it's in the core book.

>>52841385
MST is the most POWERFUL race.

What's a good thematic gestalt for a True Primitive Raging Cannibal Barbarian? I'm trying to come up with a good one.

Oracle seems at least semi-appropriate because it goes well with most themes (could choose Hunger curse and Nature Mystery).

Are there any other cannibal theme'd archetypes?

>>52841385
Well my f-list for Rinka is leaked now I guess

I was mostly too lazy to add images and description and shit to a private f-list for a game.

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>>52841385
>sensible faves
>Footgear Worship

>>52841024
Serigala from Hell's Rebels Group A is pretty /ss/!

>>52841302
Pfft, those motherfuckers haven't even tried a Disguise check. They're not real villains.

>>52841452

MST a shit, EST a best.

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>>52841519
>being a filthy coastal

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>>52841470
>Face-Fucking

>>52841470
>>52841557

whats wrong with these?

>>52841494
He's also a 2hu character who'll never ever put out.

>>52841465
Well, now that you went public, you have no excuse. Go get some images. And make sure they are a cute. CUTE!

>>52841585
Fine fine. Let me upload the two images I use

>>52841465
>>52841585
>leaked

that shit has been posted like twice already, discord circlejerkers fuck off

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Who will have their F-List leaked next I wonder?

>>52841623
Aurora

>>52841630

I hope it has a stupidly enormous list of kinks!

>>52841585
there, its done

hope you're fucking happy cunt

>>52841623
(You)

>>52841462
anyone know of any?