/srg/ - Shadowrun General

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>>52826554
>Letting_The_Sammy_Drive_And_Other_Dumb_Ideas.knwsft

Hey, at least he'll have a lot of passes to try to get it right. Sammy/driver is one of the better ways to be a wheelman, arguably better synergy than being a droneherder/driver.

Serves as the face's chauffeur when he brings out the sports car for "negotiating" with socialites, we need someone who can drive us to a nightclub without drawing attention from paparazzi.

Drives the guntruck for armor support. Gangers facing a hardened armor APC is not good news.

In places where he cant bring his car he is the one whos goal is to secure disposable wheels. Say a corpsec security vehicle and carry weapons for cqb.

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>>>52826424
I love the weirdness of Shadowrun history. It went from being pseudo-Tolkien jokes, to an actual fleshed-out 4th World with lots of metaplot and setting details coming through into 3e, and then faded into a numbers-filed-off haze.

>>52826554
>Rigger edition
>What does your Rigger do?
>Surveillance to the point of paranoia?
>Does he work through some kitted out murderbots?
>Is he surrounded by a swarm of floating AKs?
>Driving faster than most jets?

I'm the Rigger
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes

>>52826881
sure, but what do you prioritize?
Unless you play in a high power/high money campaign you either focus on one of those of are mediocre in all of them

>>52826985
I guess mediocre desu. My steel lynx is still street legal for example.

>>52827071
so what's your loadout?

>a character burns edge to save an npc rather than aiding himself in any way

So this is the power of 6 loyalty... woah.

>>52827113
Couple of flying eyes, a pair of rotordrones with AKs, an Optic-X, a mini-zep, a steel lynx with AK to keep it legal and an evo prole for interactions/street doc.

Base vehicle is a Toyota Gopher with 4 landing racks.

>>52827364
>Couple of flying eyes
how many? 10? 20?
>a pair of rotordrones with AKs
that is not a swarm
>a steel lynx with AK to keep it legal
that's like the beginning of getting a murderbot, not even close to one
>Base vehicle is a Toyota Gopher with 4 landing racks.
That's it?

You have a bit of everything there, but nothing substantial
so saying yes to all the questions is wrong
In your case it's more like
>A bit
>A bit
>A bit
>A bit

>>52827415
Don't crush my dreams man.

But yes, I know, I'm working on expanding it.

>>52827449
Unless your GM is very lenient with repair costs and/or gives out cash like candy you should try to specialize in one
This is why there are two types of riggers: Swarm and Individual Riggers
Swarm riggers have lots of cheap drones that don't cost much to replace, and they use an RCC to issue commands and distribute autosofts to all the drones. They fit the first two questions, with dozens of spy and Suppressive Fire drones
Individual Riggers meanwhile get a few drones but kit them out to be the best and jump into them. They fit the last two questions. They jump into drones to fight through them using a Rigger Interface or jump into vehicles to be faster and more skilled than people using a steering wheel

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>Theoretical immortality
>Natural grace and dexterity
>Others find you innately beautiful and charming

Is Humanis right in their fear and envy of elves?

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>>52827573
How can breeders even compete?

>>52827573
Well, sure, elves are humans 2.0, now with less aging and more lewd. Thing is, they don't limit it to just elves, they hate/fear orks and trolls too. Probably dwarves as well, though I never really hear much about dwarves so maybe they see them the way corps do - not TOO different and they're usually great workers. And hey, they're shorter than humans!

>>52827612
IIRC dwarves are to humanis as what jews are to /pol/
control the money and have their hands behind everything

>>52827636
Y'know, I thought as much but had nothing to really base it on. Doesn't surprise me in the least.

>>52827705
I'm pretty sure the core book mentions that Dwarves are looked upon suspicion because of their natural propensity to stick together.

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>>52827636
>all dwarves are part of a global community and operate on a strict no fucking other dwarves over rule

The dwarves are already 50% of what /pol/ fears about the jews.

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>>52827751
I dunno about the core book, but Run Faster definitely mentions that each dorf may as well be a fixer unto themselves from how neurotic they are about managing their network and circles - every dorf may as well know ever other dorf from the sound of things..

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/srg/ which build is better?

this one

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>>52827884
or this one

>>52827884
Just give us a quick rundown on what your want your dude to do while I read your stuff chumme

>>52827947
I guess the best way to describe it is an operator? Someone who's stealthy but can hit like a freight train and take a punch. I'm not really planning on going into rigging, the drone is for added firepower. I plan on turning the wireless off on it and communicating with it through a microtrans. Other than that the build is pretty fluid at this point. I like being somewhat of a skill monkey too. Any tips or critiques would be very welcomed.

>>52827884
>>52827899
that shit is really hard to read
could you give us a rundown of the differences between the two?

>>52827978
Basically one has AA attributes resources C skills and EE meta and magic. The other has A attributes BB skills and resources EE magic and meta. One is more skills based at the expense of some equipment.

>>52827995
The equipment being mostly augs.

>>52827884
>>52827899
Adrenaline pump does not stack with WR. You seem to have too much karma spent too.

>>52828027
Yeah, I was already contemplating dropping the adrenaline pump

>too much karma spent
how do you figure? Everything was in line through herolabs.

>>52828027
>>52828053
It's probably herolab being weird about the In Debt quality.

>>52828100
Yeah I had to take in debt and a pretty big in debt for the more skilled build.

>>52827972
In my opinion you're underpowered. Your intuition, agility, and initiative are low for a primary combatant. Skills need to be more focused, you also got to read more about your implants.
You need a better lifestyle too.

>>52828150
>not living in a cardboard box

>>52827972
If you're not going rigging from the get-go, you should probably drop drone. You could also stand to bump down the alphaware on some of the cybernetics, this should save you a lot on cash and you can lower your debt. Which you should also consider not having, as it is pretty shit.

>>52828150
What do you suggest having int, agi? It keeps reporting my secondary weapons license lifestyle as my main lifestyle. my main lifestyle is bolthole with a bunch of addons and shit. I know it's not much better. What do I need to know in particular about the implants? I already said I'm gonna drop the adrenaline pump regardless.

>>52828192
right?

>>52828205
I really like the idea of the drone but you're probably right. I'll also probably lower the cyber grades. I do want to get rid of more of the in debt quality. The only downside is then I need more negatives to make up.

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>>52827606
Metahuman wave attacks mostly. Quantity has a quality all its own.

>>52828591
breeders are humans tho

>>52827606
Another Night of Rage

>>52826554
Looking to join a group to finally play a run that makes it past session 3 or doesn't get cancelled days before session 1... pls respond /srg/

Where does everyone find a regular shadowrun game to play in?
LFG on /tg/ is the same 12 people that all acknowledge that they're 'thatguy', roll20 & Runnerhub are both victim of '4 GMs & Hundreds of players'.

>>52828889
Unfortunately there isn't much outside of those options. Life is bad bro I'm in the same boat.

>>52828889
>>52828910
>not having irl tabletop friends
>not arranging a group through your LGS or other meetup site at a similar neutral ground
>not just sucking it up and learning to gm
Spoonfeedfags are the worst

>>52828889
I wish you good hunting anon, I gave up on all the above long ago. I'm fortunate in that my job had me move to an area with a solid SR community, but I remember hunting games online all too well.

>>52826824
Thats one badass hermaphrodite

Shadowrun Character Sheets ought to be like police "wrap sheets".

>>52828288
Boltholes aren't meant to be taken as permanent residences.

What are the most important things to know about fitting in with runners?
Chummer
Whiz
Mr.Johnson
Null Sweat/Sheen
Omae
what else?

>>52828991
I have an irl group, I'm the forever DM and the group is only interested in D&D5e.

Also, eat shit stooge, being rude for the sake of it

>>52827899
>>52827884
I updated and tweaked the build a bit. Any new advice?

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>>52829385
Would probably help if I posted the PDF

>>52829385
Use chummer instead of herolab :p

>>52829407
Why would I use an inferior product when I've already purchased the better one?

>>52829308
>>52829308
Geek the Mage
Never, Ever cut a deal with a dragon
Frag the corps

>>52829428
Them's fightin' words, omae. Moving on.
I'm not sure what you want the internal router for. It would probably also be cheaper to get vision magnification in your bal mask instead of hawk eyes quality, IMO

>>52829467
Internal router for stealth so I can keep the wireless bonus for the reaction enhancers and the wired reflex without having wireless on.

And I think I may do that for a couple extra cheap karma.

>>52828288
Softcap Intuition, hardcap agility to 6(9) with Used Muscle Toner 3. Get either Used Reaction Enhancers 3 for your WR, or WR2 or both you madman!, OR Synaptic Boosters 2.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v8Y47DOHAFFQAEya6GszHisuB59m6Egx7HGjHPok2zE/edit?usp=sharing

So this is my first attempt at creating a character in Shadowrun. 5e, specifically. The concept I was going for was 'Agile, Sneaky-Beaky Murderblender Ghoul Knight.' I used Chummer, and looked at a few equipment guides, but I can't shake the feeling that this character is still lacking in some way. Please tear me to shreds and tell me how everything I'm doing is wrong and terrible.

>>52829736
You should really avoid Infected characters, particularly if this is gonna be your first.

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So I wanna try something a little silly. I don't know if it falls under pink mohawk or black trench coat or mirror shades or what (probably depends on how I end up using it) but I wanna make a character with mechdendrite-like robotic manipulator waldoes. My idea so far is basically just modifying a drone with cyberarms and just strapping it to my back. The current character doesn't use implants, but I might consider it for a different character with something similar. Great idea, terrible idea, suggestions, concerns?

>>52829752
Eh, ghouls don't seem that complicated. I was planning on making an autistic murderhobo anyways; this just gives some justification for it.

>>52829087
The word you need would be rap, no w.

And I know some people who do that for fun, but it would be a pretty shit layout for an rpg sheet. None of the details carry over, except maybe contacts matching to known associates.

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>>52830185
Use Medusa Drones from Cutting Aces. You can put them anywhere on the body (the entry talks about some mounted on the head as false dreads, and others hidden up the sleeves) and you can put whatever tiny tools you want on the tips.

Just be sure to get an RCC to run the autosofts, because those things are dumb.

>>52830370
>first character
>wants to be an infected autistic murderhobo

Consider suicide. Or D&D if you want to suffer first.

>>52830482
>Use Medusa Drones
I'd considered that, but my concern is that they'd be too small to really be of any use.

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>>52830505
Stick a minitool to the tip and it can do whatever you want it to do. 1 Mod Point per drone means you can rig one with an Fichetti Security 600 for 30 bullets being fired from god knows where as you run for it. Unless you want to play Doc Ock or Machamp and start swinging around/grappling, Medusas are the best option.

>>52829500
You can just run silent.

>>52830701
>You can just run silent
Sure, it's your Intuition plus nothing, v the decker's Logic+Computer+2+Misc bonuses. Good luck.

So I just heard about this wi-fi connected juice press that only works when it's connected to the internet and only if you're using proprietary juice.

Am I correct in assuming that all gadgets in Shadowrun are like this unless you're jailbreaking your shit or building it yourself?

>>52830896
Yep that's why you want to make those availability rolls even if you can walk down to Stuffer Shack and buy the thing.
Black market best market.

>>52830896
Even a child can jailbreak something like that.

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>>52830896
Yes. And like the Juicero, you could do it yourself by hand, but the Man has convinced people that they need to buy this thing for the luxury/convenience/proprietary wellness benefits.

Watching that video was a trip. Take the juicer out of the box, download the app on your smartphone, show the juicer your individualized QR code so it knows you have the app and should work now, connect the juicer to your wifi, wait a minute for the juicer to connect to the cloud, show it the QR code on the fruitbag so it knows you're putting the correct product inside it, then close it up, put a glass under the spout, push the single button on the outside of the machine, and wait two minutes for it to squeeze the (already mashed) contents and release all the juice.

It's insane.

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>>52830950

>>52828889
>nobody mentions the black -list community

kek, good luck chum.

>>52830950
>connect the juicer to your wifi
This is where you discover your new wireless juicer can't talk to any of your LAN devices because they're on a different subnet.

This is so frustrating
Using the vehicle mod rules on drones lets you have variety but no survivability
Using drone mod rules from Rigger 5.0 lets you have survivability at the cost of not being able to make a single drone past char gen.
Avail 16f to put Assault Riffle on Nissan and that takes you all your mod points.
Or forbidden to put any armor on your Steel Lynx.
"For some strange reason, people want their drones to survive. Funny, that! Adding armor is frowned upon by polite society"
Thanks CGL

>>52830896
Nope. You can easily turn that shit off. Gear of 2075+ is, however, designed to utilise the matrix for connectivity and processing power - so you lose out on the full features.

>>52831488
5e drones are not intended to stand equal next to the street samurai. They're expensive disposable support, which means you have to get more creative than "muh credsticks" in acquiring them.

>>52831529
>Gear of 2075+ is, however, designed to utilise the matrix for connectivity and processing power - so you lose out on the full features
And that's still retarded and why I don't do Shadowrun 5e. Trolls, Orcs, magic, sure, but it completely wrecks my suspension of disbelief that, in 2075, your augmented arm / eye / gun / dildo has to get its processing power from the cloud.

>>52831653
I really need to stop posting vg shit here. Why is it so hard to check tabs?

>>52831550
sure sure
the problem is using one mode lets me add 3 points of armor on the lynx for 1500 at avail 9r
the other mode lets me add 3 point of armor for 18k at avail 15f

>>52831785
I mean, the fact that one system has a single pool of modification points while the other has four probably speaks to the difference in scale and explains why tricking out one would be more resource intensive than the other.

>>52831373
It's also probably a big fat hole in your network security.

Yekka, bit of an error in Chummer.

SYNAPTIC ACCELERATION
This gene augmentation improves the functioning ner-
vous system’s sodium-potassium channel depolariza-
tion and repolarization efficiency, thereby increasing
reaction speed. The character gains +1 to their Initia-
tive rating, +1 Initiative Dice, and a +1 dice pool mod-
ifier for all Ranged and Melee Defense Tests. If a char-
acter has an augmentation that increases their Initiative
or grants any Initiative Dice, synaptic acceleration has
no effect, and they do not regain Essence lost for taking
the treatment.

This is actually supposed to stack with magical initiative boosters and drugs, just not other init boosters like Wired or Synaptic Booster, but it currently doesn't.

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>>52828288
Herolab goes with the interpretation that
Boltholes can't be main lifestyles, I believe.
>>52831969
There's conflicting use of the word 'augmentation' to refer to more than just cyberware throughout the rulebooks, so augmentation == bonus as far as Chummer is concerned. Get me an errata comment otherwise or use an override file to change it.

>>52832058
http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=21559.0

Forums just went down since I'd originally looked at it, but there's people saying that it stacks.

For the pseudo-quality version of it, refer to:

LIGHTNING REFLEXES
COST: 20 KARMA
Some people are just born fast. This quality provides an
unaugmented character the ability to react with aston-
ishing speed. The character gains +1 to their Initiative
rating and a bonus initiative die. This quality is not cu-
mulative with any other Initiative enhancement, be it
technological, chemical, or magical. They also receive
a +1 dice pool modifier for all Defense Tests.

It specifically calls out a list which it doesn't interact with, and says ANY initiative boosters.

>>52831612
>And that's still retarded and why I don't do Shadowrun 5e.
Yep. Definitely not already moving towards an existence where major corporations don't support wired or offline products.

>>52832058
>There's conflicting use of the word 'augmentation' to refer to more than just cyberware throughout the rulebooks
Bioware, Nanoware & Geneware, too?
Last I checked, anything else was an SRM thing, not an SR thing.

If I'm running along and I want to jump to do a charging attack at someone, how do I do it? I know it uses Gymnastics, and presumably is a Leaping specialization-applicable thing, but what's the action? Is it just rolled into the movement alongside everything else, or what?

Attempting to add a Note to Martial Arts, under the Add Martial Art Technique dropdown at the top, NOT the actual styles area thing itself, immediately crashes Chummer. I have no idea why there's even an option to add a note there.

>>52832937
What are the rules for making a jump or leap?
Otherwise, just make a Gymnastics + AGI test with a GM set threshold based on how crazy of a jump you're attempting. If you fail, you fail to attack because you don't make the jump. If you have martial arts techniques like pouncing dragon they could apply.

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>>52832937
You get a Martial Art. Flying Kick and/or Pouncing Dragon.

>>52832937
Make an AGI+Gymnastics (leaping) Test opposed normally
martial arts add dice
Damage is (BOD+net hits)P

>>52834529
u wot m8
I just want to make a jump and attack with my sword.

I cannot find the actual action required to do this, and I'm just trying to clarify whether it's just ACTUALLY rolled into the movement/attack part, or if because C G L, it's technically a houserule to do that.

And as >>52834498 points out, yeah, this is for a martial arts thing.

>>52834571
>attack with my sword.
why didn't you say so?
in that case, follow what >>52834467 said, maybe add your speed/5 or similar as a DPM. You have to look what denominator fits

>>52834571
Look up Freefall. Adept power in Street Grimoire.

>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-19/facebook-s-building-8-envisions-using-brain-waves-to-type-words
DNI, HERE WE COME

Any ideas for a type of "unstoppable terror" type of enemy that just keeps slowly coming no matter what the PCs throw at it? I'm thinking along the lines of Terminator 1 or how run-of-the-mill gang members would see Judge Dredd.

Unfortunately I can't be much more specific because like half my players are /srg/ browsers. I do know it'll need a big 'ol edge pool to save it when the PCs inevitably go all PC on my plans.

>>52836489
Heavy Hardened Mil-Spec Battle Armor?

>>52836489
WILLIE
WHERE ARE YOU GOING WILLIE
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU WILLIE

>>52836537
>Heavy Hardened Mil-Spec Battle Armor
On a vampire with regeneration

>>52836599
Or a vampire in hardened mil-spec battle armor.

>>52836599
Mutaqa with Regeneration and the additional Armour they can get as an optional power.

>>52836489
Anthrodrone assassins with high armor and realistic features. Blowing them up won't stop them from coming, you have seek out the source.

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>>52836489
Just one enemy?
How about a truck full of anthroform drones who can get you in a joint lock and explode?

>>52830787
IIRC devices without a sleaze rating are found on 1 hit no matter what. Also, it's Computer+INT [data processing] vs. LOG + Sleaze.

>>52826554
Mu players have no rigger and every time they go on a run they rent a van because everyone usually just uses public transit. I'm going to use this picture for their rental from now on.

>>52836489
A vampire with full deltaware cyber-conversion (so it doesn't get expelled due to regeneration). Make the limbs synthetic for added "oh shit!" factor when they realise.
For added laughs make it an adept, with around 6 MAG after essence loss due to initiation.

It's not unfairly OP, but their usual solutions probably won't work. Might also make a fun contact if they resolve it non-lethally.

>>52836489
An AI trapped in an orbital laser kill-satellite. Whenever the PC's are in the open they risk being targetted by an invisible energy beam, with no known way of fighting back unless they somehow get a Matrix connection.

The AI is usually rather pleasant and has megacorp allies, so the reason it specifically hates your players is a mystery.

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>>52836489
The Gibsonian way to do this is to use a powerful AI with enough resources and influence to keep the PCs in a constant state of dread.
Sure they escaped the KE response team the AI called on them, but they know it's only a matter of time before their adversary finds them and continues to press them into compliance.

Question: You (as in you as a person) are given the opportunity to get one piece of cyber-/bioware, Cost and availability doesn't matter, and you won't die of essence loss
What ware do you take and why?

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>>52840611
Does this include all the relevant peripherals? Like, Move-By-Wire 3 would be pretty good, but only if it's assumed that you'll also have access to the 'softs for it

>>52840688
nope, just that piece of ware

>>52840611
just a "simple" Datajack for me. The ability to think instructions at a computer instead of painstakingly inputting them through the man-machine interface would make me so much more efficient at my work and a bunch of everyday life things, it'd be ridiculous.

>>52840800
see >>52835841
FB is already working on Trodes

>>52840611
Sleep Regulator

>>52840611
Leonization. More life, please.

>>52840611
Tailored pheromones, more for the secondary effect on myself than the primary effect on others.

>>52840815
>FB is already working on Trodes
and there's man with a cyberdick (replacement after particularly gruesome accident)

>>52840611
Reproductive 'replacement'

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>>52841016
Disgusting.
Details?

>>52840973
>secondary effect on myself
???
AFAIK it only gives you a DPM/Limit modifier

>>52840821
How many hours a day is it saving again? Because I'm torn between this and cyber-eyes.

>>52841046
The limit modifier is described as making you feel better about yourself. Some more self-confidence would be nice.

>>52840611
Leonisation, if you're allowing geneware.

>>52841052
3 hours for a full nights rest, and you can stay up for twice as long.

>>52841085
Hehe, count me in, I can push 60 hours without assistance.

>>52840611
>>52840800
I was going to say datajack as well, but then I remembered that Rigging interfaces include a datajack.
I mean man, could you imagine BEING a plane? Or a boat? Or even just a car. I'd use that shit all the time.

>>52842164
Don't you need a special modification to use a Rigging Interface with a vehicle?
Because if so it won't help you. You only get your part, not the vehicle mod

>>52842258
Oh, right. Then just standard datajack, please.

>>52842258
>>52842304
Guess who made a big typo last time.

Yeah, vehicles don't come with the interface, but drones do. So it might work with the small number of drones (comparitive to SR) that are in the real world.

Me, I'd take the Cybereyes Standard System.

>>52840815
>facebook
it's botnet soykaf

>>52840951
>>52841081

I am unfamiliar with this. What is this?

>>52840611
Metavarient change to elf

>>52843471
"Fountain of Youth" Treatment, named after Ponce de Leon
Reduces your biological age and extends your life. Think 80 y.o. gramps with the body of a 25 y.o.
Expensive as hell

>>52830482
My first Shadowrun character, not my first character in a RP.

>>52843624
>My first Shadowrun character
Yes, that is the problem.

I was talking to a dragon and he was trying to cut a deal with me. I told him no cause you guys said he's not trustworthy, but then he said YOU guys weren't trustworthy.

Who do I trust ?!

>>52844852
In the shadows, trust nobody omae

>>52840611
Rating 6 Hard Nanite Hive. That's 6/8 hard nanoware systems that you can pick one from at any given time.

How much of a vehicle needs to be there to follow vehicle rules for damage?

As in, if I take off a car door, can I use it as a barrier to ignore all stun damage below the armor of the vehicle?

>>52845742
It still needs to be a vehicle.

>>52845742
You can just use a door as a barrier as in Barrier rules. It ignores all stun damage period.

Wait, what the fuck? Biocompatibility: Bioware doesn't apply to Geneware? What? It's a fucking subset of Bioware.

>>52847361
>It's a fucking subset of Bioware.
Says who?

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>>52840821
The smart man's choice.

>>52840611
Fully kitted out cyberarm with a sweet casemod. I don't care that I'll never need to use STR9 AGI9, or the spurs or magnetic system. I just want a robot arm so bad.

>>52847623
Anon.

There are two types of 'ware.

There's Bioware, which is Bioware, Cultured Bioware, Geneware, Symbionts, Cosmetic Bioware, Bioweapons, and anything else biological.

There's Cyberware, which is Cyberware, Nanoware, Nanocybernetics, and all the other artificial bits.

That's literally how it breaks down. It's how it's worked since fucking forever.

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>>52842530
Drones come with it in SR because riggers exist in SR. Control Rigs and Datajacks would be useless in our world, because no computer is set up for them.

>>52847361
5e? No it is not. GB2 4e.

>>52847702
Here's the thing. Nanocybernetics are explicitly considered cyberware. Nanoware is not. Geneware is not.

>and anything else biological.
You don't just get to throw the kitchen sink in "because fuck it".

>Nanocybernetics [...] are cyberware (p. 451, SR5) and follow the basic cyberware rules.
Unless you actually have a rule, like this, then no, you're wrong, and can go back to where ever it's "worked since fucking forever", because that's not [current edition].

Oh shit. I just realized.

Imbue Item: Berserking can be applied to anything you Attune, and you can attune guns, which means you can boost your ranged damage with it.

Pour one out for another runner lost in the war against the Megas.

She was a good decker, chummers.

>>52849155
RIP in piss, Decker.

How'd she die?

Unrelatedly, what do people think of Analyze Device functioning on melee weapons? Kinda like Shirou Emiya's Trace thing, I suppose.

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>>52848957
I've seen a couple of GMs slap that down and say that it works the same way bonding a weapon focus does, only applying if you're actually hitting someone with the stock or whatever, but it works per RAW.
>>52849234
Personally it's on my soft veto list, but that's largely due to an argument that rose after two of my players both made skill-monkey charactrers but the guy who went with skillwires was completely outclassed by the guy who blew edge and kept recasting until he got 10+ hits on the spell and jammed it into a sustaining focus, then did it again and again until he ran out of foci.
>>52832965
Can't replicate it, unfortunately. In theory I know why it would be crashing, but the code fails out early already so it shouldn't be able to do it.

Would you a dwarf?

>>52850324
No.

>>52850324
definitely not

>>52850324
Probably.

Yekka, Chummer desperately needs a function to allow people to properly upgrade qualities for PCs. For example, if you have Focused Concentration 3, you can't upgrade it to Focused Concentration 4 without deleteing the entire quality and needing to pay for that, then paying for it entirely anew.

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>>52850687
As far as RAW is concerned, you can't upgrade qualities anyway. Raise it as an enhancement request on the github, I'll take a look at what I'd need to do for it when I've got some time spare.

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>>52850324
Would you not?

>>52850767
yes

>>52850709
You... what? Of fucking course you can raise the level of qualities. That's why there are different fucking ranks.

>>52850324
Depends on the dwarf and the situation
Is she cute?
Does she share my interests?
How many corps want her dead?
How many corps want me dead?
How much debt is she in?
How much debt am I in?

>>52850795
No, you can buy different levels of qualities depending on how much karma you're willing to pay out. There's no way to upgrade qualities in game, just buy off negative ones as per RAW.

See, what you're doing is applying logic and reason to CGL rules. That's where you fucked up.

>>52851416
>A player may also purchase Positive qualities for his character at any time during game play. The cost for purchasing a Positive quality during game play is the listed Karma cost x 2.

Your mistake was in thinking that purchasing a quality != purchasing a quality rank.

>HIGH PAIN TOLERANCE
>COST: 7 KARMA PER RATING (MAX RATING 3)

You can totally purchase HPT more up to three times, separately.

>>52851518
Yes, but only at chargen. You can't upgrade that during play.

>>52851533
Disregard, didn't fully read. Yeah, I forgot about being able to buy qualities at double cost. You rarely get enough of it in game to make buying qualities at 100% markup to be worth more than skills or attributes or getting rid of a negative quality.

>>52851533
>>52851518
I think anon is saying that its not 1/3 its HPT 1
So you cant upgrade it, Only pay the full amount for 3/3
Its dumb but its not really a wrong point of view

>>52851574
Yeah. Let's go with that, it makes me sound smarter.

I suppose a lenient GM would let you buy the second and third level at double cost though. I probably would. Karma's hard enough to come by.

>>52851574
>Its dumb but its not really a wrong point of view
It is, though.

You're not purchasing HPT 1 for 7 karma or HPT 2 for 14 karma, you're purchasing HPT twice, with a maximum of three purchases.

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>>52851574
OH, sorry. I've caught up to what you meant now.

Under most cases it would just be additive, so you'd take another instance of Rating 1 or whatever. HPT is a bit of a bugbear in that it's not allowed to stack with a bunch of other stuff, so it had to be blocked. Best I can say is that's not my code, it's hardly the weirdest decision Adam ever made. Whenever I get around to implementing quality ratings instead of the current ugly hack it'll be sorted out, but I intended to have shapeshifters done by New Year's and that's slipped a bunch.

>>52851832
>>52851768
>>52851583
Note that if your GM is that anal about the rules its probably an issue, But it could very easily be someones point of view on the wording of those two rules.
Spending 7 for the first rank at chargen then 14 for the second and 21 for the third is weird compared to 7/7/7 or 14/21/28

>>52851832
>I intended to have shapeshifters done by New Year's
At least we're past the expectation of Hardy doing something with the 'provisional' shifter errata that makes sense, compared against previous editions.

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Its time to play
Is Mr.Johnson planning to kill me after I hand over the Data?

visual aide included

Good news, kids, you can actually take Gammaware at Chargen.

>>52852143
Always plan for the possibility.

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>>52852267
Gammaware sounds like it would cost a lot.
>>52852295
He wasnt planning to kill me that time, The next mission he did try to.

>>52852304
Which of the three games is that?

>>52852325
Mod for Dragonfall called Shadowrun Unlimited
Has an actual matrix hub, Fixers, Street cred, etc.
If you plan to be a Troll with a Fairlight keep in mind that you need 8 decking not 7 or it bugs out when you try to jack into anything.

>>52851860
Worse than that, at 7 karma per rank and buying extra ranks post chargen, that's 14 per rank. One rank at chargen and two more after runs you 35 karma.

>>52852267
>Only standard, alphaware, and used implants are available for purchase at character creation.

>>52852304
>Gammaware sounds like it would cost less than Deltaware.
FTFY.

>>52852610
Still sounds expensive

>>52852610
You'd think that. You really would. But CGL ain't logical.

Imagine a shadowrun set in the future where Zetaware is a thing

Man I don't fucking understand the hatred of "snowflake" characters

In a setting with this many options, why the fuck would you want everyone to be boring human? Are people that dedicated to black trenchcoat bullshit?

A shitty player will still be a shitty player, even if you don't let them play their pixie. They just find different ways to be shitty

>>52852667
Because, anon, most often it's shitty players taking those options.

Yes, in a complete vacuum, all things are equal.

But it's not a vacuum. It's a sewer.

>>52852667
>That guy who spends like half his karma to be a dragon in chargen
>Cant do anything well but hey guys im secretly a dragon

>>52852667
The deal with shadowrun isn't snowflake characters. By contemporary roleplaying and even Sixth World standards, all Shadowrun characdters are snowflakes. But assholes who go against the fluff to play free drakes or immortal elves? Those are the problem.
>>52852682
Exactly. Then drag down the team and complain like it wasn't their own damn choice.

>>52852682

I mean at that point you just let them die and then the person makes a new character with the lesson learned

Anyone got an idea about how smartguns work while jumped into a drone? Do they just work, or do you need something special? Smartsoft is required for the drones themselves to use smartguns, but while jumped in you're not using the autosofts of the drone, so that seems weird.

>>52852667
Because the relatability of a character both to the players and the setting is the closest you get to an objective mark of quality.
A few elements that stand out about a character are good, because they help the character evolve and give players tools to play them. The problems start when the snowflakes become so special that they're dominated by them not fitting into the universe and being different from everyone else.
When the most defining point of a character becomes that they're special, they become one-sided, because instead of having points that are understandable, engaging and relatable to the player and the rest of the group (commonly known as "feeling like a person"), they're defined mostly by the act of not fitting in. Their main gimmick is that the setting doesn't have room for them and they're always special in a way, which makes the character harder to empathize with, harder to find hooks for and harder to see as a person.
If the character has more common points with the setting and the players, they become easier and more satisfying to play - a player can use their own experience with human emotions to play a moving and fun character instead of fumbling in the dark to create an "alien" character who's unempathizable and stressful to play. Instead of creating a pixie, who're defined by not fitting into the universe and being "special", you could create an ork who comes bundled with hundreds of opportunities to interact with the setting and distinguish themselves by virtue of having a whole race that they can reflect themselves off. A character who's unique also stands alone, because the setting isn't built to give them anything to play with, and might in fact clash - the only way they have to interact with the setting is to antagonize it.
These characters are often played by people who equate attention with fun, and become frustrated when their character falls into the background for being unable to constructively interact with the world.

So I'm coming in last to a black trenchcoat team with a Sniper/Team Leader, Stealthy Street Sam and a Rigger. Is it possible to make a character who can handle the Cyber and Astral realms? Is there any point in doing so?

>>52852775
If your GM understands Shadowrun, he'll know that runners aren't hired for stuff the Johnson knows they can't do, and making him purely Matrix-oriented would be better for the group's balance, as Matrix security is a lot more common, especially on jobs that require no mages, than magical security.
If he plays 5e, he's already bought into a system that attempts to gut cyberware and any non-magical solutions through dirty gamist tricks, and he'll likely throw Force 10 spirits at you from the first run to punish you for not being able to interact with the current metaplot even the tiniest bit.

>>52852799
anon, please show me on the doll where 5e touched you

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>>52853368
right here

>>52853368
>>52853402
He's not wrong. 5E's bias is pretty noticeable.

>>52853465
>tfw the next book is ANOTHER spellbook

>>52853488
BLOOD MAGIC SOON NIGGA
BOW DOWN BEFORE MY FUCKING MAGICAL BLOOD-COCK

>>52852775
Really its not feasible at chargen. Being a Decker Adept is a thing but that doesn't lend itself to handling Spirits and Mages, like Weapon Foci, Killing Hands, Combat Magic, etc.
I think I could imagine taking MAG D for Aspected Magician and putting points into Counterspelling. You can provide your team with Magic Defense Dice while your Samurai pumps the Spirit or Mage full of APDS.

Yekka, if you attempt to add Improved Ability to a skill in which you currently lack ranks, Chummer immediately crashes.

>>52853504
What about a regular cock, ENGORGED with BLOOD?

Seriously, blood mages are all fags obsessed with big blood-filled cocks and period sex. Freaks.

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What's some neat cyberware for a mercenary / black-ops type character (think Big Boss / Solid Snake) that's not over-the-top?

I originally wanted to go no cyber/magic but we're playing SR2 and here that approach is definitely a noticable drawback as there's no Edge.

Also, does anyone have any fitting character art?

>>52854026
I think there's maybe half a dozen anons in /srg/ who are still competent in SR2's ruleset to advise you. Good luck and beware omae.

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>>52854026
The Crypto Circuit HD and Scramble Breaker for spy conversations. And a Tooth Compartment of cyanide, natch.

>>52852775
>Is it possible to make a character who can handle the Cyber and Astral realms?
Yes, but the question is how much you're willing to compromise one, the other, or both.

Using a commlink and dongles (or, cheesier still, a stealth tag and persona firmware), you can get into decking at a fraction of the price.

If you don't mind only bargaining with spirits and not having automatic services, then there's The Calling Ritual, which can be performed by anyone with the appropriate knowledge (5 karma per spell per spirit type) and materials. (get a decent talismonger) Even mundanes can do this.

>>52854568
Wait a minute. What? How the fuck do you use a Stealth Tag to deck?

>>52854625
Stealth tag has 3/3/3/3 for its Matrix Attributes. If you modify it to run a Persona, you can hack with it.

>>52854664
But its persona is going to be an edgy faggot so its got its drawbacks

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>>52854706
*logs in behind you*

pssh, nothing personnel scriptkiddie

>>52854764
>Stealth Tag the kinda avatar to shape their black IC like a katana

Has anyone made a document that distills the core mechanics of Shadowrun into a base for a universal system?

Basically I'm looking for a list of rules that aren't about ware, gear, magic, races, or anything else specific to the setting.

>>52854664
0/3/3/3. It has no Attack value, only Sleaze.

The trick of modding one to serve as emergency cyberdeck that can be slipped past cecurity easily is still a very good one, though.

>>52855303
Shoot Straight. Conserve Ammo. And Never Cut a Deal With A Dragon.

>>52855347
10/10

seriously anybody seen anything like that?

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>>52855303
The setting is basically the only reason to run Shadowrun because the rest of the system is so jank. Tell us more about what you're looking for and we can probably point you in the right direction.

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>>52855303
No, because no one is foolish enough to need or want it. Combine Attribute and Skill for dicepool, Roll that, count successes and possible glitches.

Other parts, like the combat rules, are terrible and only used because they are part and parcel with all the rules for magic, cyberware, etc. that are needed to play Shadowrun.

>>52855303
Are you asking for taking the Shadowrun system and turning it /into/ a Universal System, or the Shadowrun setting and placing it into a Universal System?

>>52855303
Shadowrun is not a good system.
Why would you want to use it for anything not Shadowrun?

>>52855389
>>52855397
>>52855400
>>52855480
These replies are actually the answers I was looking for.

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Is there any mention of what happens if notable people get Infected with HMHVV? Assume they got a strain that means they can't just pretend to be normal, like dzoo-noo-qua or goblins. Are they quietly shot and incinerated, and a cover story created, or is there a public trial and execution for the crime of being infected?

>>52857051
If they're uncommon, the Corps try to capture them for research. If they are common, they either go into hiding/kicked into the barrens, or are killed. No real public trials.

>>52857051
Jesus fuck what's the gnarly bastard in the middle?

>>52857557
AIDS

So chummers, would you rather have a six connection one loyalty contact, or a one connection six loyalty contact? Also, anyone have a contact that you absolutely love to see your GM do things with?

>>52853488
The book has been in the works since 4e. We know this cuz some freelancers leaked it back during the scandal.

>>52858794
6 connection. While having a guy who will have your back no matter what, the guy who actually knows people is the one who will get shit done.

>>52857557
Probably supposed to be a Dzoo-Noo-Qua. Which makes him packing heat kinda odd, given that they're non-sentient.

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When did Black Trenchcoat become the norm instead of Pink Mohawk? What happened?

>>52859041
Heat.

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>>52859122
The movie?

>>52859395
Yeah.

Chummers whats the best knowledge skills for a sam to take? I've got Small Unit Tactics, Military tactics and Shadowrunner Community.

>>52859427
How so?

>>52858794
Connection Six, every time. Though any higher and you start having serious trouble getting in touch when you need them.

>>52859459
A lot of players fell in love with the high skill, high cooperation set up of the team in the movie. Later writers took inspiration from it, listed it and Ronin as inspirations.

>>52857216
Maybe back in 2050s but from the mid 60s onward Ghouls were actually able to apply for citizenship in the UCAS.

Vampires are easy enough to hide and probably find enough willing victims in form of vampire fanatics.

>>52826719
If I wanted to run a very short campaign, I'd probably make the payday gang PCs and just have the players pick a team for a bank heist. They've got a fun safehouse, a diverse set of skills, and are unashamedly ready to go loud at any moment.

>>52859782
That's nice for Ghouls in the UCAS.

>>52859041
>>52859524
>>52859122
Nonsense. Shadowrun was Black Ops from the very start.
In the first edition they even specifically say that shadowrunners are an urban myth to the public.

But in the end, Shadowrun still has magic, orks and elves who download secret paydata from dragon corp bosses, so it will never not be goofy.

If anything, Shadowrun became less black trenchcoat in 4 and 5.

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>>52852267
No? It requires GM fiat to take gammaware at all, let alone have it at creation.
>>52853940
Aware of it, fixed in the databoundpowers branch, but that has some issues with adding and removing foci that I need to process before I can merge it.

>>52859041
Honestly it's gotten goofier over time. The turning point was maybe Year of the Comet when they added magical catgirls, because that's about when it became impossible to play it straight without ignoring things.

>>52860224
I dunno, I feel like it was pretty goofy in 1e where your Dwarf decker could be allergic to Silver and Sunlight (also includes X-rays), possibly fatally so.

Or make an ork street sam that's not only Iron allergic (meaning his weapons and the weapons of others) but also Plastic allergic (meaning synthetics as a whole, including his 'ware and most ballistic armor).

Granted, it's probably at the nusicence level, but it's also possible for your street sam to have been fatally allergic to his own stuff.

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Do human parents still have a chance to give birth to Elves and Dwarves, decades after the "Awakening"?

Did the frequency drop off, did it go to zero? I am having a hard time finding info on this.

>>52860562
AFAIK, yes. Just as two meta parents have a chance to give birth to a human child, two human parents can give birth to a meta child.
It all depends on the mana level at the moment of conception and during pregnancy.
The genes for elves or dwarves might be there but may not be expressed. So they might be expressed in the parents but not the child, or silent in the parent but expressed in the child.

But usually the child is one of the parent's metatype

>>52860562
It's either implied or stated that every baby is a roll of the dice at this point. Two humans could give birth to an elf, a troll and an elf could give birth to a dwarf, etc.

>>52860562
It's still possible, just rarer. Because for most of post-Earthdawn history, humans, elves, dwarves, orks, and trolls were interbreeding a lot.

Now it's not nearly as common, but it's possible to have two humans with no known metahumans in the nearby family tree to have elf kids.

In the right circumstances, it is possible to have an immediate family that has all the metahumans in it.

>>52860663
Are you saying that if I cast Orgasm instead of just cumming my kid will have a higher chance of being a elf?

>>52860739
or getting laid on a lay line.

>>52860739
No. It doesn't depend on spellcasting, but more on local mana levels. IE: Don't get born in a manavoid.

>>52860870
so leylines are the best place to concieve. Got it.

>>52859448
Depends, what does your character know a lot about?

>>52859448
Corp Security, seriously.

>>52858942
That's not true.
>Until recently, dzoo-noo-qua were never reported as sapient

>>52861353
okay, from which edition is that?

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Shadowrun 6th Edition Wishlist

>Advance the Year to 2087
>Make magic more common but less powerful in general
>Essence/Nuyen cost of 'ware increased by 20% per point of magic you have
>Drop base costs by 50% (Mundanes with more 'ware)
>Increase Augmented Maximums (An auged human cannot perform at the physical level of our modern day Olympians. What?)
>CFD is dealt with to pave the way for actual fucking tech progression (and the monads fuck off)
>Re-define current AIs as "Matrix Intelligence" create standalone actual "Articial Intelligence"
>Remove grids, unfuck the matrix in general (Remove device condition monitor and just have it be tied to their stun track.)

>>52861420
Fifth. Doesn't mean they weren't sentient before that, though. Dzoo were also playable in 4e.

>>52861605
Editions start on the new decade.

6 in Magic should be brought in line with a 6 in other attributes.

Bring back compulsory free negative qualities. Awakened can pick from Sensitive System or Cyber Snob.
Increased cost by Magic is only going to catch out Mages and high Magic Adepts.

Bringing 'ware costs into line with other attribute augmentations was a good idea. The problem was that it wasn't done very well.

Auged humans can customise to 6 and enhance to 9. That's on par with the peak of natural human capabilities, given exceptional attribute, metagenetic improvement, and (natural) genetic optimisation.

>Rest
... Nah. Needs change, but you're not fixing, just pushing 6e to fuck up in new and different ways.

>>52862367
I disagree, CFD needs the boot if nothing else.

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>>52861605
I say this every time, but:

New Megas or vastly transformed familiar ones

Fewer mission books and more location based sourcebooks like from third edition. I'm so tired of Seattle I could scream.

Advance the plot. It feels like the setting has grown somewhat stagnant, and despite the million-and-one side plots and blurbs stuffed in between rules and game mechanics they don't really go anywhere or effect anything.

Make the Matrix rules less time intensive. There shouldn't be half a dozen rolls to hack the toaster in the corporate break room.

>>52862592
CFD may need to go, but there's a difficulty with actual tech progression given Shadowrun's current tech. It's not that far until you're spilling over into transhuman stylings and cyberpunk is in the rear view.

>>52863056
>It's not that far until you're spilling over into transhuman stylings and cyberpunk is in the rear view.


And I don't necessarily think that would be a bad shift at this point. Give us another Comet and bring SURGElings to the forefront. Make them a base metarace along with the elves, orks, dwarves, trolls, and humans. Have Evo gain success in making genemodding chic and trendy.

what are some good scenarios or quest modules?

>>52863225
Queen Euphoria

>>52863183
Agreed. There are more comets than just Halley.

>>52863056
And that's fine. They can only stretch out Cyberpunk in a timeline so long before the stasis turns it into WH40k. And last I checked, cyberpunk didn't have magic in it, so calling SR cyberpunk is a bit of a stretch to begin with.

>>52863183
I'd rather see a 2050 reboot. Not that the idea has no merit, but if I want Eclipse Phase or Nova Praxis, I'll go play Eclipse Phase or Nova Praxis.

By the time the playable setting has been going for 3 decades, characters have lost first hand experience of most of the original material anyway. Night Of What? VITAS - some kind of vitamin supplement? Even if they have heard of it, there's no longer the visceral connection to the greatest number of simultaneous human/metahuman hate crimes in history, the loss of a quarter of the world's population (skewed mostly to Africa, but still), and so on.

>>52860887
>In other news, the British government has authorized excessive lethal force at the site of Stonehedge. Says one guard, "Finally I can grease those drekhead wannabe elfdaddies. I've been saving up for a Panther for this very day."

>>52863318
That'd probably be for the best, but my Shadowrun 6 wishlist is:


>Anyone other than CGL publish and edit.

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>>52863318

I guess a straight up reboot wouldn't be all bad, now that I consider it. It has problems, but it'd allow them to properly re-frame and refresh technology, magic, timelines, etc, without being weighed down by all the bullshit from earlier editions.

Hell, it might actually be a good idea to reboot back to earlier than that even.

>>52863484

>Wizards of the Coast gets the license

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>>52863318
>>52863507
FASA did a good enough job the first time around. There's no value in restarting from zero, especially when it's going to be developed by 50% unyielding grognards and 50% kids trying to make it their own by putting their own stamp on it.

I'd far rather see things go forward and watch them try to balance cyberpunk themes with transhuman tech (though we're a long way from there in SR) than watch them redo every splat and module from the 90's.

>>52863319
Getting shot at is most shadowrunners fetish.
That would just make more people go there for a quicky

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>>52863624

FASA and everyone involved is long, long gone however. Maybe a new entity? Not sure.

If we were to go the Transhumanist route, I guess I wonder how it would manifest in SR:

A group that personifies Superhuman Psychosis: Evolve or die(by our hands)

A corporate campaign to make people feel bad about being human? (And the pushback groups?)

>>52863624
It's just really awkward to actually advance tech in a setting because it means you have to start just removing things from the game. It'd be much more feasible if they were willing to make multiple games to represent different moments in the timeline but I don't think CGL has the will or really, the discipline to pull that off. So to a certain extent if they want people to keep up with the direction the game is going, a certain level of stasis is just necessary.

>>52863740
FASA still exist, my man. They're doing a new edition of Earthdawn.

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>>52863793
>http://fasagames.com/earthdawn-whatis/
>mfw

>>52863793
>Implying

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>>52863740
EVO seems like it's going in that direction. Easy to imagine splinter groups funding transhuman/pro-changeling-and-metasapient terrorists, especially with the influence of Yakut and Buttercup behind the scenes.

>>52863764
I've got no problem with the 2050's sourcebook, and republishing some old adventures with new mechanics. I just don't think that they can or should do a total reboot of the entire story.

And what would need to be removed as time moved forward, in the grand scheme of things? Obviously political entities could and should change, but I think the world is a long way off from scrapping cyberware, for example, while still having room to do stuff like expanding the criminally ignored symbionts.

>>52863764
If they did something like Modiphius did with Mutant Chronicles 3e, with a core book with identifiers that tell you what's available in each time period, and then a setting supplement or two for each time period covered. Maybe some location supplements that cover all time periods.

>>52863318
To be honest, I have yet to be in a shadowrun game that actually feels like what shadowrun is supposed to be.


It always ends up being generic crime shit with orcs, elves and magic but no creativity or lore.

>>52863740
>A group that personifies Superhuman Psychosis: Evolve or die(by our hands)

That kinda sounds like the Ultimates in Eclipse Phase.

>>52864062
>generic crime shit with orcs, elves and magic
But that is Shadowrun.

>>52864062
What is Shadowrun supposed to be?

Chummers I need help with something that's probably super obvious
Can I have more than one 'Way' as a adept?
And is this a common sense thing or is there a rule I cant find?
Followup question, Does burnout stack with real biocompatibility?

>>52864160
Read the book, its explicitly one Way
And yes.
Embrace the Burnout, chummer.

>>52863896
I mean the options here are "keep adding things and contribute to an already-problematic level of bloat", "stasis", or "replace old things with new things".

>>52863948
It'd be possible but I think CGL wants to avoid supporting people playing just completely different settings. Which I don't think is the correct decision necessarily, but I doubt there's a third door they'd be willing to take either.

>>52864177
I can embrace the burnout if I can come up with a
Cool enough idea for a Geas that I wont get called That Guy. So...I'll see about it.

>>52864160
It stacks with real biocompatibility, but remember, Burnout's Way ONLY effects Standard Grade 'ware. Never anything higher. You eventually upgrade to Delta? Lol nope, totally useless fucking 15 point quality.

>>52863896
>that pic
Shadowrun and katawa shoujo?
I'm actually kinda curious about how that would work

>>52864816
basically every burnout or sammy

>>52864307
>You eventually upgrade to Delta?
By the time you have access to Delta, you've probably raised Magic twice.

It's still good for things like getting MBW 3 and still having room (as an adept that still wants to be an adept) to fit more in.

>>52864177
Turns out I cant afford to embrace the burnout.
Bioware is fuckin expensive and my GM isnt actually letting me spend 250+ karma on nuyen. Oh well.

>>52865578
IN DEBT NIGGA, AND WHY DO YOU NEED THAT MUCH 'WARE

What attachments besides a smartlink and rangefinder should i put on a bow
undermounted heavy machinegun is rightout sadly

>>52866192
ok, you made me laugh. thanks.
There is an attachment that is intended so you don't lose a gun if you drop it; that might be useful.
Rule of cool says laser sight.

>>52866235
Gecko Grip and a Reddot, got it. What about my katana? I dont think I need more than four bayonet mounts but I could be wrong

>>52866326
Gecko Grip and a Reddot, of course.
There stats for bladed hand guards?

>>52866235
>Rule of cool says laser sight.
Rule of book says 'no'.

>With any bow or crossbow, a laser sight is ineffective at any range beyond Short due to parabolic nature of the projectiles. Unless you somehow get a laser that also travels in a parabola. Which you can’t.

So use a holographic sight instead.

>>52866326
Personalised Grip for for your bow, Personalised Grip for for your katana, Personalised Grip for for your dildo, Personalised Grip for for your everything.

>>52866666
>Personalised Grip for for your dildo
Quints have spoken!

>>52866666
Huh. Well, what section are the dildos under?

>>52866666
>>52866777
Golfclap

>>52866777
On the credits page, under written by

>>52844852
Just know that no one is trustworthy.

Especially dragons and elves in harlequin make up. Or AIs.

/srg/, if you were to attempt to make a Pixie and have it NOT be a collosal amount of faggotry and broken niggerdry, how would you do it?

Never use Concealment except in the most dire cirsumtances? Limit use of Flight to rare times and mostly just at ground level, maybe citing concerns of concentrations of pollutants and getting clipped by drones? Have a background of being an ex-Evo employee turned Shadowrunner because of prejudice, to avoid any of that "I'm the specialest fairy from the woodland realm please don't murder me with your dick" bullshit?

>>52861605
Echoing the "More Settings books that are not Seattle" wish. Would love a Phoenix book, personally. Maybe see if Cleveland is even worse off somehow.

Matrix rules that make sense and don't require the GM to keep track of two entirely separate initiatives.

about all I can think of off hand.

>>52867737
I wonder how many Pixies are grievously harmed if not killed(manslaughter) via attempted dicking in the sixth world. Has to be at least a few annually right?

>>52867737
as much as people whine about the pixie rigger meme, it is a thing pixes are ok at (logic cap of 7) while avoiding use of all the OP shit like concealment.

>>52867737
There is no situation in which a pixie is not a colossal amount of faggotry. Simply because it's not just their powers, but also their uber minmaxed stat array. Literally nothing but Str & Bod below 2/7, and four attributes at 3/8.

If you're not going to be smacked in the face (IC or RL), then there are only a few reasons not to pick pixie.

>>52867737
In 4th Ed, I made a rigger who had wired reflexes and drove by wire rather than using VR. She had a stolen souped up Lone Star cruiser she bought at police auction and carried a bunch of fake ID's, pretending to be a cop.

>>52868118
>a stolen souped-up Lone Star cruiser she bought at a police auction
You'll have to tell me how that happened.

>>52867838
As long as Halloweiners are a still a thing, there are always going to be slashers. As long as paracritters are still a thing, there are always going to be monsters.

>>52868131
She was also an ex-cop who worked at the motorpool and got fired for being a "maverick"

>>52868176
She wasn't enough of a damn fine officer to get away with it?

>>52868542
nope.

lost her badge, lost her gun, only kept one thing:

Her car

>>52868558
bought back her own decommissioned police cruiser at auction. Had to rebuild her from scratch.

>>52868118
It was sort of a rigger/face character. Pretty good dual class, if you ask me.

It could be a movie starring Whoopi Goldburg

>>52867988
>>52868118
I would love to hear your argumentation of how your pixies get their specially custom-made state-of-the-art miniature-version cyberware without resorting to "lol the books don't say cyberware needs to be race adjusted" and let alone with your limited starting cash.

Because there's no way these are manufactured in any way shape or form.

If a pixie player asked me for cyberware I'd tell him that he could only use the most common cyberware and even then would have to treat it as delta-ware but only concerning the price.

>>52868670
Oh, I thought you meant elves. Like calling those little knife ears "pixies" or somethin'.

>>52860823
Underrated.

I still feel like my 4th ed characters could take almost anyone with a similar role and beat the tar out of them in their own balliwick.

My 4th Ed builds were fucking fantastic.

>>52868670
1. They don't say anything like that.
2. You're assuming pixies need something radically different and unique, compared to gnomes and other pixie-equivalent height metahumans of the neotenic variety.

>>52869194
Revolution X was basically a Cuban Batman, he could probably assassinate Castro if he had to.

>>52869339
Castro the 3rd, lol

>>52868733
Fookin' keebs

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>>52869368
I ain't sayin' I agree wit it, but...

>>52869194
That's because the power level in 4E was much higher. 4E Shadowrunners were specops tier. 5E are basically regular soldiers or milita.

>>52869495
Yeah, but my builds were still killer. They were all street legal, I didn't use anything outside of the core book and core supplements. (Runners Companion, Street Magic, Arsenal, Augmentation and Wired)

>>52869521
>I didn't use anything outside of the core book and core supplements
That's ... not much of an achievement.

>>52869544
there were tons of other broken supplements i could have used from tiny splat books here and there.

What I'm saying is, 1 on 1, my dudes and dudettes would rock any other 4th ed dude or dudettes

>>52869602
like obviously if you put my face up against a street sam she'd get slammed, but against another face she would walk all over him.

>>52869602
Seems like confirmation bias, maybe your normal groups just prefer specialists?

>>52869602
>there were tons of other broken supplements i could have used from tiny splat books here and there.
The core book & supps weren't exempt from strong options. You just sound cocky and overconfident. Doubly so when a number of other characters wouldn't even have to get into a fight to put yours down.

>>52869784
generally, yeah.
I'm just saying I'm kind of bummed I never got the chance to pair my characters off with somebody elses character, cause I think I would have kicked their ass.

I always get my ass handed to me in D20 systems when I square off against another character, so I would have liked to win one.

>>52869825
nah, i'm just being all Goku about it. Like, I respect ya brother, but Imma bout to cave your head in cause i'm awesome like that.

>>52869832
How tall are you?

>>52869858
tall.

>>52869854
Are you nine?

>>52869242
>You're assuming pixies need something radically different and unique
They do, genius.
Pixies go way beyond "small humanoid" and everything would have to be custom-made for them. Not only that but it would have to be at like 1:6 scale.

It's basically one of the pixie race's few drawbacks.

There is just no way that there would be any cyberware for pixies except for maybe the most ubiquitous ones, like standard replacement limbs.

>>52870065
Both of you are spergs, to be honest.

>>52870137
That was my first post.

>>52869194
So is this the /tg/ equivalent of dick waving?

"My character could kick your character's ass!"

>>52869854
Are you trying to get b& for underage? Or just developmentally challenged?

>>52870065
yes.

>>52870215
Yeah, but he totally could though. In 4th ed.

>>52870229
I prefer chemically enlightened.