Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

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First for Fyreslayers! Bring on the Ur-Gold!

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First for fimir!

>>52693609
More like

>I already won all my games against Overlords edition

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>>52693638
Realm of Fire is the best Mortal Realm. Our rivers of corpses are cooler than Death's. And also corpse-free.

>>52693640

>Fantasy Vortigaunts

I'm warily interested. Is there any interesting fluff on these dudes?

>>52693629

Just saying, when you have 30 inch range, and your enemies (significantly more devastating) shooting isn't that long..why are you teleporting just over 7 inches away from the enemy?

>>52693640

>dat statline

also, what exactly WERE firmir? I started WHFB when it was in the middle of 6e, and I haven't read any of the previous rulebooks or fluffbooks from before that era.

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>>52693663
Who said I was teleporting 7" away?

Im teleporting to any table edge that gives me line of sight of your giant piece of shit blimp

also if you think youre safe staying near scenery then you better hope this motherfucker doesnt find you

>>52693668
Rapey. They were very rapey cyclop lizard-trolls.

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>>52693734
Also pre-AoS they worked for chaos but I guess after the world... exploded they started worshipping gork and mork for some reason.

>>52693734

I honestly had no idea they were that dangerous lol but were they around during the time of ending? I don't remember seeing them anywhere except for models on FW

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>>52693715
Oops, the gridlines were screwed up. They're fixed now.

>>52693658
>>52693668
I have no idea what Vortigaunts are, but yes. Not sure 100% how much of this is canon and how much I've absorbed from reading a LOT of fan supplements, so take with grain of salt. They were basically mist/marsh monsters from Albion in the Old World. Used to be favoured servants of Chaos, then Chaos Gods for some reason abandoned them. They hate the sun and summon mists to follow them when their armies march to hide them, and to fuck up other people's shooting since fimir can't really do range with one eye and shit depth perception. Go around kidnapping other races and raping them to make more fimir because apparently they can't reproduce like normal fucks. (In my own version I changed it to they use magic to transform/mutate captives into new fimir). Females are super rare, like 1 in every 100 years or something like that, and they lead the clans.

There are FW models and warscroll for the warriors (statwise seem more like the elite of fimir society than the basic warriors, but w/e), but no full army. I've been making custom warscrolls so they can have a proper army for a friend and I to try out.

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Painted my nurgle chaos warriors. These were made from starter set blood warriors and spare blightking bits.

>>52693774
More fimir ARE coming down the line. Either them or Chorfs will be the first FW battletome. More likely them since it seems that not even FW cares about chorfs now

>>52693774

That's scary. What was the last big edition of WHFB they left before moving to FW only?

>>52693791
I THINK I saw this on the FB fanpage but not sure. It's awesome.

>>52693760
...That's because they're Forgeworld models. Are you retarded?

>>52693800
I dunno, I could see their Special Snowflake Nurgle army getting one instead of Fimir. Especially if AoS Nurgle isn't getting a Khorne or Tzeentch style update soon.

>>52693817
You did. I post them in both places.

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>>52693800
I know the Dirach (wizard hero) had points in the FW point costs, and was on display somewhere along with mayyybe a Meargh (female leader) and looked like some fimir with a bag. But no idea when those are coming/what their scrolls'll be like.

>>52693823
Timurkhan's horde? I doubt it. They have even less pull than Chorfs amongst the fanbase. To the point where I literally forgot they existed.

>>52693839
Shit, I hadn't seen that one. That actually makes three new models shown since there was a big one covered in rags, a smaller one with a staff, and now that one. And hopefully FUCKING BANNER HOLDERS AND HORNBLOWERS FUCK

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>>52693839
>a Meargh (female leader)

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>>52693839
Pic related of the maybe-Meargh

>>52693864
>>52693877

Meargh-Mind.

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>>52693839
And the dirach

>>52693889
That one looks the closest to done. I guess they've decided to take a few months to decide how the hand looks cause god damn we've had the points for that thing for a while now

>>52693840
How are they, by the way? Some of the models look really, really fucking great. That one cavalry fucker, in particular.

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>>52693839
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>>52693886

>Meargh
>skeletor Myaah!
can not unhear

>>52693916
If I had to guess, smack dab in the middle. Nothing particularly good (Else they'd be cheese and people'd complain about them) or terrible (Also complaining, but for other reasons)
I'm not actually gonna check though, I'm mostly just guessing off the fact that I think this is the literal first time in a year anyone's mentioned them in these threads

>>52693905
That's the one that they had revealed in August of last year.

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Hey /AoS/ general, Frostslayer guy here again.

Just finished my first batch of Vulkite Berzerkers. I still need to do some detail work on them but I like how they turned out in general.

Once again, any C+C is appreciated as I'm still pretty new at painting in general.

If the guy who suggested red eyes for the faces is here I wanna thank you, I think that was something which really improved the face.

Anyone got a bunch of AoS maps?

>>52693933
They kinda disappeared from the fluff for a while cause of the whole "Rape monster thing" Beastmen also did that but they also had (a little) other stuff going on for them, whereas the whole rape thing was more or less all they had on fimir.

>>52693933
Probably not much considering I don't think they've been models since...2e I think? Idk it was pretty far back. There was some miscommunication about stats and base sizes so you ended up with like, ogre-sized and priced (IRL $$$) minis with like, infantry stats, they didn't sell well, and GW decided the rape-lore was too much grimdark and promptly shuffled them into the background to never be spoken of again.
I liked them from HeroQuest back in the day cause I thought they looked cool, and then as an adult I like the mist-raiding-ambush-boogeyman aspects.

>>52693954
>frost themed fyreslayers
>my dwarfs are snow covered bases
>would play on a snow themed terrain with/10

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>>52693943
True, but... Look at that bastard.

>>52693966
Just make up random shit on Inkarnate. It'll be about the same equality.

>>52693954
>when the bad guys kidnap smurfette

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Since we were all talking about fimir anyway, any feedback on this warscroll? Obviously point costs can go whatever way to make more balanced, but how does the idea itself seem?
Shearls are basically the weakest, most cowardly, working/slave caste of fimir. Think slightly better Ungors. Figured they can fill the role of cheap harassers/the only ranged unit in the army.

>>52693954
David is that you?

>>52693954
Good concept but either the picture or really shitty or it looks like you only applied the base coat. Use some washes, drybrushing and highlighting to bring out the details.

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>>52693640
Dirach balefiend W H E N? ? ?

>>52693992
Holy shit that's either an awful paintjob or model.

>>52694445
A bit of both, as with the best of Papa Nurgle's vomit.

>>52694208
I think it's a little bit of each DESU.

I'm still fairly new to painting so I don't know much about highlighting or drybrushing.

I am using a shitty camera phone to take pictures so they lack detail.

And thanks for reminding me because I totally forgot to do any washes on them.

>>52694189
No sorry.

>>52693791
I would totally do this
I like nurgle but I'm out off by the whole fat, diseased guy thing. Love the Harbinger tho

So with the new proliferation of range that's coming out with the Khardron Overlords, You guys think it'd be a good idea to run more ranged with my Chaos list?
Thinking
20 mounted marauders with javelins and shields
2 skull canons
And probably might start running a cockatrice or WarpFlame Dragon
Who knows tho

>>52694604
>I like nurgle but I'm out off by the whole fat, diseased guy thing. Love the Harbinger tho
You can totally do nurgle without going fatso. You can avoid the bloated parts of conversions I did and still use the blood warriors for nurgle, or even regular chaos warriors. Right now I'm painting nurgle marauders made from bloodreavers and they are all pretty swole. I'm selling the nurgle look with the rusting of the armor and weapons and tinting their skin with a bit of jaundice.

Yeah I'm looking forward to painting the harbinger. I'm saving that for last, though, so it's going to be a while.

>>52694251
Well that looks like the Noble's tail next to him and that's been out for a bit, hasn't it?
I'm hoping sometime this year. For now I just make up rules and check with my opponents beforehand.

>>52694648

Two skull cannons are always great but kharadrons look like they're the weakest melee army in the game by far, just focus on getting there before you're all dead

>>52695379
You know on occasion we get that fag coming in here asking what is the closest AoS equivalent to the Tau?

We now have an answer for him.

I worry that with embark rules for Kharadron that all the other armies will get embark transports and it'll be 40k but fantasy

>>52695424

Yeah but unlike tau there is no riptide equivalent, ironclads aren't nearly that OP

>>52695435

I wouldn't imagine you'll see it a lot, it's their defining feature to have boats

>>52695435
Eh, more likely it's just GeeDubs testing the water for the eventual Vehicle rules for Age of the Emperor.

>>52693656

It took my brain like a solid minute of contemplating that image to stop seeing the molten rock as black corpses that had burned and melted together as they were dragged into that hellpit.

>>52695725
Oh God, you too?

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>>52693668
>>52693658
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Fimir

Basically rapemonsters from Celtic myth, and were supposed to be Games Workshop mascots.

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Now that death updates are confirmed what hopes and dreams do we have for the upcoming deathrattle stuff and maybe other death subfactions? I'd like to see:
>new skeleton archers
>skeleton wizards/liches with a new spell lore
>more options for wight kings
>different kinds of vampires for soulblight, maybe based on the 3 mortarchs
>magic lore of the vampires
>vampire thralls as rank and file soldiers

>>52695793
>Now that death updates are confirmed
Nothing's been confirmed, Death is just getting a team for Shadespire.

That said, I'd like to see everything on your list.

>>52693954
They badly, BADLY, need a wash step, drybrushing, and eyes.

Never forget the eyes. This isn't 40k.

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>>52695755
Sort of the point of sharing it, actually.

>>52695793
>Now that death updates are confirmed
HA!

The only thing confirmed is death models for a competitive boardgame that is not AoS. Sorry. Death is technically getting nothing.

>>52695793
Haha, oh man. It's funny to see you scamper about so gleeful, unaware that the only update you are getting is for Age of Sigmar's version of X-Wing. Hush, bone-rattler. Go back to your crypt. You aren't needed yet. Maybe in a few years?

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>>52693755

They were the forsaken of Chaos, they were the previous species that the Chaos Gods took as their chosen before the ascension of Humans.

Now they're largely disgraced and just wallow in their swamps.

>>52695773

Yeah the old story goes that they made the models in isolation from the stats, so they ended up with an Ogre sized model that had Orc-like stats... so obviously they were a very expensive army to field and they fell off. I think there's more to it than that though.

>>52695941
They had stats for small models, price for large models. That was the problem.

They might have resurrected them sooner if the mess with them finding out they didn't own things they hired part-timers for hadn't happened.

>>52695964

That's pretty much what I said? The models were big and the stats were shit (comparative to their size).

But I think it was also a combination that people preferred the trope races.

>>52695994
The models were too big, but statted like smaller dudes.

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>>52696011

What was there problem again anon?

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>>52696035
A problem, anon? What was it?

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Why did Fimir not sell very well?

Can somebody explain to me?

>>52696070
Anon? A what problem it was?

>>52696085
Hey anon, was there a problem?

>>52696083
You see, they had rules for big dudes but were priced as little dudes but the models were small dudes but the prices were big amounts of dollars but the community was little but the players were all big dudes.

Make sense?

>>52696140
They were big guys but had the stats of little ones?

>>52696156
Yes, they had little model stats but big models.

>>52695793
>implying we get soulblight shit
Nah, just skeletons and Tomb Kings stuff repackaged.

I want more factions to come out. I dont like any of the current ones enough to drop dosh on them

>>52696190
So they had the body of Bane but the stats of CIA?
You knew it would come to this

>>52696296
Did it hurt when it came to this?

>>52695793
I'm hoping summoning rules get changed up in ghb2. Death was doing well until the GHB dropped.

>>52693791
Found you, Jared. Looks nice though, I love seeing those Blood Warriors getting converted.

>>52696397
summoning's fine as is, it's just that death's ONLY real gimmick was using that. If they get new shit that's less dependant on summoning ( or shit like "Summoning X unit costs Y points less if you have it's faction") then it'll be fine. They kinda tried to do that with FEC

>>52696397
Oh fuck yourself. Summoning is the gimmick that everyone gets to have fun with outside of Destruction. Order have summoning and their special Deep Strike, Death has summoning for their Deep Strike, Chaos has summoning for their Deep Strike, and Destruction has a bunch of greenskinz rushing you down.

How to fix Death:

Instead of limited to undead and necromancy shit, add gothic horror monsters as armies

>Crow people
>Werewolves
>Spiderpeople
>Mummies
>Fishpeople

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>>52696531
>werewolves
I vote yes, but I think we're out of luck due to the skinwolves being Chaos.

>Still no 1d4chan page for Blades of Khorne.

Come on guys, I enjoy reading these.

>>52696585
They should fuck off from Chaos then

>>52696425
Making all the summon X death unit spells alternatively let you resurrect models in an existing squad at the same values as their standard bearer abilities would be a handy benefit. Shouldn't be too hard to balance either cuz of the rule of one.

>>52696408
More to come for my nurgle force.
Oh snap they know my identity! Better become a shitposter!

>>52696608
Agreed. You can't take marks on them as well. Honestly they should just become Death and the basis for a new faction Lycanthropes.

>>52696531
Sounds gay as shit.

>>52696643
>>52696608
Except there's nothing about them that's Death-y at all, and everything about them screams Chaos. I'd say kys, but you're already dead.

>>52696672
viper

your opinion is shit my man

>>52696643
>become Death and the basis for a new faction Lycanthropes
But Anon, you just described something that'd be better suited for the Realm of Beasts. Which would probably end up Destruction or Order due to such.

>>52696724
But Destruction is for WE WUZ oonga boonga stereotypes.

>>52696724
I've always thought that a beastmasters type faction would be a better fit for Destruction. I imagine a very feral faction of humans with dire and were animals.

>>52696737
Look at Beastclaw Raiders. Now tell me there's not room for a faction of feral beastmasters and druids that are a 50/50 mix of the old Beastmaster TV show and Rexxar, supported by massive carnivores and lycanthropes. Maybe even maybe them Neanderthals for funsies.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer:_Age_of_Sigmar

I'm cleaning up the shitfest we call AOS article. I'd gladly take any help from you guys.

>>52696750
Agreed. And they worship gorkamorka since he's kinda the king of beasts and such

>>52696810
cool

Werewolves should still belong to Death
Dracula, Werewolf and Frankenstein Monster belong together.

>>52696826
>creatures that have nothing to do with undead
>definitely part of Death
You do realize that Death isn't just the Universal Monster Movie Cinematic Universe? You aren't getting the Invisible Man. You aren't getting the Creature From the Black Lagoon. You aren't getting Jekyl/Hyde. Now put on your Big Boy Pants and deal with it.

>>52696817
I could see that. Humans worshipping gorkamorka would look to either animal aspects, or admire orks like Diggas.

>>52696855
>Death isn't just the Universal Movie Cinematic Universe?
Man, I fucking wish

>>52696870
>>52696870
I can *dig* that.

>>52696870
I mean, the Spiderfang already worship him through spiders. Dunno why the humans couldn't do the same thing, but for mammals.

>>52696884
>*ba*dum*tiss*

>>52696374
For you

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Why are stormcast player consistently the most autistic in FLGS ?

I mean its one of the rarest army here, yet everytime a stormcast show up its a grey army and they guys is sperging and commenting on everything around every tables.

>>52696826
Werewolf have always been the antithesis to death in warhammer. They have always been chaos tainted.

Also in pop culture Werewolves are literally the NEMESIS of Vampires, and arent eternal nor undead.

>>52693920
lost

>>52693920
>this is the leader of the realm of death
man, fuck nagash

So, I am looking to get into the hobby and AoS seems to be a very nice way to get started. Been lurking the thread and scowering the GW page for a bit and settled for Warherds and Brayherds as my army of choice. I know they are kinda considered the lowest of the low but I am really digging how the models look.

I want to start small with maybe two units and a Hero. Was thinking Beastlord, Ungors and Gors. Not too sure about the weapons, maybe Spears for the Ungors and Shields for the Gor? Also, are there any fixed color patterns for the Beasts (fluff wise) or can I color them anyways I see fit?

>>52693609
Are they unsquating squats?

>>52696826
Skinwolves are chaos units.

Let me ask you an honest question, why the fuck do americans get so fucking price gauged by gw?

Like, holy shit, just looking at the prices for the Kharadron, the battletome is 40 bucks, while in germany it's 25 for the german version and 32 for the english version, even though the dollar and the euro are pretty much 1:1 at the moment.

My Ironjawz warband is made up of disparate broken clans, and as such the orruks populating it are different colors. Base green is obvious, but what other colors should populate my clan? I was thinking blue and charcoal.

>>52697427
Because for a long time euro was 1.5 dollar and pound 2 dollar.

Because buying anythin american here means 1$= 1.5 to 2 €.
Because you can buy a 600m2 hiuse for 100k $ and in europe we need 300k € for 80m2.
Your life and buyung power is easily 3 times the european one, yet you still fucking complain. every. single. time.

Its one of the cheapest hobby you couls choose from, just get a fucking job.

>>52697393
>but I am really digging how the models look.
And that is as good a reason as any to choose an army. Yeah they kinda suck right now, but the meta is always shifting and they may be decent one day. I'd say beastlord, shaman, ungor raiders(the bow guys), and gors (with shield)

For pattern or color, this ain't the old world anymore, son. This is the mortal realms! Read up on the fluff of the 8 different mortal realms, choose a realm for your tribe, and flavor and paint them according to that. Are they from Chamon? Maybe silvery or blue shade of skin and fur? These guys terrorize the glades of Ghyran? Brown skin with green fur to blend in with their environment.

If you want to get real creative, get a hold of some bits from bits resellers and kitbash some weapons and other things. Maybe give them fyreslayer head plumes if you want them to have more of an Aqshy origin.

There's little you can't do with these guys. Except say they turned good or some shit like that. They are the children of chaos, after all.

>>52697427
>Colpletely ignore the past 15 years and the price of american product in europe.

You know that your 23k Ford Mustang is 40k € here ?
You know that we have 33% income tax + 22%Vat and 20% tax for the """""Free""""" Healthcare ?

Ameritard everyone, the richest country on earth complaining about toys soldier price

>>52697427
>Highschooler

Everytime.

>>52697517
Start with different shades of green. It'll be much easier to keep the armor consistently good that way

>>52697427
Til : The Hauler + Boat + Hauler transport price throught the fucking world is free.
Til : America have no import tax

Or just : go to school faggot

>>52696531

>How to fix Death:
>We keep doing well and beating other armies and winning tournaments but we need fixing!

>>52697603
>Ebay Kings
fuck off, faggot

>>52697518
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>>52697556
>>52697579

I'm from germany guys. I was just complaining about the unfairness americans face.

>>52697603
>Only crunch matters, no one should ever care about fluff
Nice autism.

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>>52693640

Forge world hasn't released the model yet but there's point costs for a Fimir Dirach Balefield which makes Fimir battle line if it's the general. If they do release a model, what would be good to run with them? Pic related is the fimir scroll.

I was thinking a Troll Hag since they both live in swamps and it's canon that fimir will ally with goblins so I assume they will with trolls.

>>52697707
>>52697579
Fuck Americans.
I live in nz. We get shafted on price. And shipping doesn't even come close to entering into the disparity!

>>52697721
Where's it stated they'll ally with gobbos?

>>52697769
They're Destruction, they'll ally with gobbos.

>>52697769

There's a white dwarf that says they ally with swamp gnoblar. I forget the number.

Anyway I was thinking fellwater troggoths + troll hag + dread maw + fimir + fimir leader guy would be my goal list. Would that make me That Guy? Almost everything would have high rend, regeneration, a bunch of wounds, etc. It'd be like a slow hybrid of beastclaw and vamps, I think

>>52697769
Nowhere, but they're in the Grand Alliance of Destruction, same as grots of all kinds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8opRR48CrO0

Bunch of Kharadron background and shit.

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>>52693722
I have no mouth but I must trumpeter!

>>52697856
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>>52697904
I was considering not getting the book and just waiting for the PDF, but now it's confirmed I will be preordering the book. These are gorgeous!

>>52697866
I wish we got more lore art.

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>>52697904

>dwarf devistator squads

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>>52697964

>>52697844
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>>52697882


>people on here will actually spend £35 on the battletome, then another £25 when GW decides that the some of the ships are actually an "Extremis Chamber" kind of detachment

I actually think GW have nailed their core market of dedicated, well-meaning idiots that will enjoy this game.

>>52697917
>they even specifically made a special mask with an opening mouth
>grognards still bitch

>>52697917
You do see his lips though.

>>52697979
And that's it for the art, there's some cool 360 degree shots of the models in there and a bunch of lore stuff.

>>52697996
They have three kinds of ships that fight, which we've seen and they're already releasing. The big ones are mining ships and trawlers. They bring in sky fish and hunt huge whale/shark things.

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>>52697844
Holy shit GW. That's a bit harsh.

>>52697996
>>52697935

Ayy

>>52697904
Huh.. are those specifc creatures?

What do you guys think about this 1k competitve tzeentch (not max skyfire spawn) list?

Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Lord Of Change (300)
- General
- Trait: Magical Supremacy - Tzeentch Daemon Hero
- Artefact: Phantasmal Weapons
- Lore of Change: Bolt of Tzeentch
Tzaangor Shaman (120)
- Lore of Change: Fold Reality

Battleline
10 x Chaos Marauders (60)
- Axes & Shields
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
10 x Chaos Marauders (60)
- Axes & Shields
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch

Units
3 x Tzaangor Skyfires (160)
3 x Tzaangor Skyfires (160)

Total: 860/1000

140 points to summon a suicid herald to snipe whatever, a balefire vortex to troll melee armies or 10 plaguebearers to sit on an objective.

>>52697856
Forgeworld-made kharadon battleship when?

>>52698044

Allegiance: Death

Leaders
Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440)
- General
- Deathlance
- Trait: Red Fury
- Artefact: Cloak of Mists and Shadows
Necromancer (120)
- Mount: Nightmare

Battleline
40 x Skeleton Warriors (320)
- Ancient Spear & Shield
10 x Zombies (60)

Total: 940/1000

Or this death list with just enough reinforcement points to summon zombies/a cairn wraith to hold objectives.

>>52698071
How about this Khorne warship instead?

Haven't had a chance to read the new khorne battletome, any significant changes to any units or is it mostly new formations?

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>>52698117
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52698145
Two biggest is +6 save for Blood Reavers and double damage output for Khorgoraths.

They also got a point increase to 70 and 100 points respectively.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12743902

This is a poll for the whiniest people in the AoSG, I tried to cover most bases here

>>52698191
to be fair, elves were the most fucked over when they split up the factions

There wasnt really a need for dark and high elves to be split into 10 factions

>>52695793
>vampire thralls as rank and file soldiers

Please. I'm in the process of converting a bunch of flagellants and zombies to be a mob of these. Counts as zombies, so the idea is they're so intoxicated by the taste of their master's blood that they shuffle around mindlessly thirsting for more of the red stuff.

I would rather run them as skelliemans, but I want to imply that they're stuck somewhere between life and death like vampires, and using bonezone rules for anything but the bonezone seems cheap to me.

I also think blood knights on foot would be amazing.

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Why are overlord so cool ?

>>52698239
? dorfs pirate that mine gold in clouds.
Literraly best race ever.
Also in that video : Sky skaven and sky grots confirmed

>>52698239
Oh shit, I missed that early one.

And because they're dwarfs, they're all cool.

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>>52698239
hnng

>>52698261
Got that one already. >>52697866

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>>52698255
This.
Cant wait for Sky Skaven

>New rules for units released last year already
>£30+ a book

You lot are being taken for fucking mugs

>>52698289
>Download them here day 1 since 2010

WoW.
I bet you are also still BUYING Music CDs

>>52698289
The unit pdfs on GW's site are updated and free. I get the books for the lore.

>>52698289
Why would I buy all the books I need when I can get a free PDF and use that money for models instead ?

>>52698289
>He reads the lore.

>>52693823
>if AoS Nurgle isn't getting a Khorne or Tzeentch style update soon.

He will be.
With Death Guard coming soon plastic GUO is a sure thing.

>>52698255
Sky Grots were not mentioned.

>>52698328
Just to be killed by sky dorfs, sky grots and sky skaven

>>52698326
Aimed at me, I suppose? Yeah, I do, and I have all the novels too.

>>52696531
Fuck off furry

>>52693954
Not sure straight blue skin works, I'd at least take the skin up to a paler near flesh like tone and then wash recesses blue, as is, it really does look like battle-smurfs.

I made the plunge and just picked up Start Collecting Flesh-eater Courts and battletome. Coming across from 40k, make way! My Sob's will have to collect some dust until 8th.

>>52698398
How do you like the rules, so far?

>>52693954
>Frostslayer
More like smurf

>>52698404
I only played a demo with an employee, but I like how feels less convoluted. I feel like there will be less skipping through books trying to clarify rules. The straight-forwardness really appealed to me.

>>52698239
Yeah thay first image is bloody gorgeous.

The concept is cool, the realisation is cool, GW definitely did some good job here.

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>>52697964
>>52697979
Damn well better be bowler options for those, tophat a shit, bowler a boss.

Well I'll just convert them otherwise, but seriously, even shitty shoot is a massive improvement

>>52698281
>Sky Skaven
Skyven? Clan..Skyre?

>>52698447
Actually that looks significantly more retarded

>>52698455
GW caved in to illiterate grognards who can't spell Skryre

>>52698469
How? They roll back AoS?

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I'm going through my WD, and it sas that the Ironclad is the biggest ship the Karhadrons can use with only 1 balloon.

HOWEVER, it does says that bigger ships are most definitely existing, but those use several balloons. So maybe we'll see some sort of center piece big ass boat in the nearby future?

I want my Dwarf Cloud Destroyer.

>>52698491
they also said in todays video that this is definetly not the biggest ship for overlord, but its ghe biggest we will get with this book

>>52698480
The average aos player is much more literate than the basement dwelling Whfbgrognard tho.

>>52698538
He said quite clearly that these three ships comprise the military fleet of the Kharadron. Stop spreading confusion.

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>>52698464
Yes but a helmet with a curved top is better than one with squared edges, the squared edges are really vulnerable to cutting weapons, something something the french are rubbish something, clearly an armoured bowler is better than an armoured top hat, now let me carry on talking for another 15 minutes without really adding anything.

>Jeremy Veetock

Should be pronounced Vetock tbqh.

>>52698557
Well yes, but maybe they bring sometimes more than just the professional, military fleet, in case of grave problems.
You never know. And the Ironclad isn't that much different thematically from the others. Hence why the belief of getting a special, bigger model, makes sense. Just like Nagash, Archaon, or any big ass expensive model.

>>52698546
So what is your point?
Are you just using grognard to mean nerd?
Or are you confusing grognard with neckbeard?
Or are you in fact projecting your own illiteracy?

>>52698569
You're talking about a model with moustache guns.
Your argument is irrelevant.

>>52698602
Grognard is just a general purpose insult in AoS threads at this point, like fuckhead.

>>52698602
Why do you give this thread free bumps, based groggy?

>>52698644
Because it means "wargames oldfag", IE kneejerk AoS hater.

>>52698645
I like WHFB
I also enjoys AoS, not as a sequel but a standalone game, like one might enjoy Fallout 3 compared to the original Isometric games.

>>52698557
Wrong. He said quite clearly this are the MAIN military ship.
They will 100% go Xv8 -> Broadside -> Riptide -> Stormsurge -> Supremacy armor exactly like they did Dread -> Contemptor -> deredeo -> Knight -> cerastus -> Acastus -> Titan

There is no doubt about that.

>>52698645
>Kharadons
>Hyper capitalist "democratic" jews who wouldn't lift a finger to help a dying man if there wasn't any profit in it
>BUT THEY'RE STILL GOOD GUYS
>Written by an American

Coincidence?

>>52698701
yeah pretty sure we will get a mich bigger one at some points.

>>52698706
Who are you quoting?

>>52698713
Jeremy Vetock

>>52698281
Hello french rat fellow ! I'm with you on this one

>>52698706
He does explain why though. It's because they went so close to extinction by being Good Guys without getting anything in return, hence they became extremely pragmatic in order to survive and thrive. They kept their good guys alignment, there's just loads of terms and conditions now, the main one being profit.

>>52698747
Knew I couldn't be the only one to recognise Canardman.

>>52698239

Didn't like them at first but the developer video did a good job of winning me over.

>>52698712
According to the vid though the only ships larger than the ones getting released here are miners and haulers so it wouldn't make much sense to have them in a wargame.

>>52698909
According to the Tau codex until 2012 the largest Exo armor was the broadside.

You dont play.. Aelves by any chance ?

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>>52698909
Well the Goliath is a mining truck originally, yet look at how dexy it ends up on the TT.

They'll put bigger guns on a bigger boat and they can call it a day. The bigger yhe better.

>>52697844
Man that guy needs a script, "no kings no gods" and "the code" is every other sentence for 14 minutes solid.

Tell me about Your Dudes, /tg/.

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>>52699061
Here are my dudes.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DleJ7guokNXxnsKZX7hu-vjRa0Hw4edANjkYRwm0PDY/edit?usp=sharing

I will probably update it later today with maybe a picture of the Herdstone and my Hinterlands Deamons warband.

What the fuck is a Slambo?

>>52699061
Ironjawz from the Realm of Fire, representing the Iron Horde from WoD. I swear it's incredible, there's a way to represent almost every clan accurately with the existing Ork kits. Only the Warsongs are a bit harder, since they're riding wolves.

>>52699114
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Slambo

>>52699114
a meme character

>>52699061

A Bloodthirster and his daemonic legion who believes he should be Khorne's champion, not Archaeon, and is so tearing ass across the Mortal Realms to hunt down and beat Archaeon one-on-one.

Do you guys think Spire of Dawn is good value? I haven't partaken in anything miniature-related in 15 years but I've gotten an extreme urge to paint some things.

>>52699190

If you just want cool stuff to paint, yeah, it's good.

>>52699190
Value is subjective.
We can't tell you if you like it enough to buy it.

>>52699207

I do, now to just work out the best place to buy it.

>>52699218

I just want a good amount of stuff to paint and spire has a lot of units I liked as a kid, like swordmasters. It's just hard to find good prices for stuff like this in my fucked up country.

>>52697707
Start taking in American refugees and create a GW product welfare system then.

>>52697844
I don't know if it's sad or funny to see him cringe every time he says duardin

>>52699233
monetarily, its extremely good value.

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>>52697844
you can't even tell this is supposed to be a fantasy setting wtf

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>>52699367
whale hunting looks fun

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>>52698261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zib5Il3bc20

>>52699367
fantasy does not equal low tech.

>>52698334

They were on white dwarf.

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>>52699378
are the riggers british or american?

>>52699426
you know full well what I meant

>>52699456
Not really.

Hey /tg/, looking to pick up a new hobby that's not reading, video games or anything else that involves staring at screens. I just started working 40-50 hours/wk as a developer, and by the time I get home, the thought of sitting on my ass again in front of a screen makes me want to take a few boxes full of benzos.

I've always been interested in starting, but the cost has always been prohibitive until now. I'm not much interested in playing AoS/40k just yet, but I do really love the idea of setting up a workbench in a quiet part of the house and spending a few hours here or there painting and putting together miniatures to unwind. My previous de-stressors just aren't cutting it any more for reasons above.

Is it worth it, is it enjoyable? Should I take up knitting instead?

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This settles it, nobody likes Death-fags

>>52699481
Go for it! Even if you don't want to start an army it should be fun just to collect and paint some cool dudes.

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Alright AoSG, need some help. Few mates want to do the AoS thing, I've only got old fantasy shit, and I'm certainly not buying any of the new shit atm, but having a bit of trouble with the monsterous creatures, and the 3" pile in move.
How do I attack a monster with a screen of plebs in front of it (image) without getting fucked by the pile in, or his return charge? Assuming I don't have my own monsters to go punch up with it.

>>52699481
Hobby is always enjoyable, though there are many other model hobbies around with better cost/quality ratio.

With GW you are paying for the game development as much as the minis, the rank-and-file models do suffer for being modular/adhering to game rules.

That said, if a faction catches your passion then go for it.

>>52693763
very nice probability density graphs.

>>52699516
Don' you have to always end with a guy at 1/2" on a charge so you can't game weapon ranges. Morghast Archai cant charge an Ironclad and stay at 2" to avoid its 1" mine and still hit it for instance.

>>52694590
Check out some videos, drybrushing and highlighting are really easy.

>>52699061
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-oHgYUJC3RxosGz1Tqm1yInzvCVSuslkQutcUl4OmZk/edit?usp=drivesdk

The Heralds of Casandora, warrior scientists who enjoy a fight as much as the next Stormcast.

Still writing fluff for my Lord-Celestant though...

>>52699569
You're quite right, my bad. But if I charge to 1/2", he can still pile in and sword me, or the plebs will either make space, or die and clear him for a charge on his turn.

>>52699441
>whale hunting
>twirly gun moustaches
>big boss has a top hat

think they're meant to be brits m80boi

>>52699613
I see what you're trying to work out. Screens advantage single models much more than other units. The way the rules work here is why they're overcosted compared to troops. Best case is to just charge it yourself so it cant attack one side and contact only a few knights while getting full attacks. There's no way to screen it out if the attack ranges are the same.

>>52699481
I say go for it. Watch Duncan's tutorials on WarhammerTV, find an army that you like and try your hand at it. Even better if you have a GW shop near your place that can give you some painting lessons.

>>52699644
>capitalist to the point of no king
>jews-driven lawful evil mentality
>military machine for securing not!oil

>>52693638
AETHERGOLD AND PROFITS NOT UR-GOLD AND OATHS OKAY.
PRAISE GUNDARSSON

>>52699644
That's more like new englanders man. Massholes.

>>52699716
This. Screens only work if the Big Scary Monster (TM) only has 1" range, and you have 2".
So unfortunately, it hits you back.
So do the smart thing- shoot the fuck out of it until it's in the last wound tier, then charge forward to glorious victory.

>>52699516
Also, your diagram is awesome. Made me kek

>>52699115
Recently played in a small tournament and the dude has his ironjaws painted like the iron horde orks.
Shit was cash. Looked awesome

>>52699847
But if he's got 2", and piles in on me, we get stuck in combat, and I don't have lances, so my guys are killing approximately nothing at all?
Flanking it and charging the shit out of it from the rear seems fine, depending on how much crap he has the screen with though. Also Trebs. I was trying to avoid the peasant life, but if that's what it takes.

>>52699777
I'm afraid you're wring on every point anon.

And trying to put an exact nationality on a fantasy race is a bit silly at best.

>>52699378
>skills in flatulence

BRAAAAP

Can someone show me the point value of a gaunt summoner? Not the one with chaos familiars (120) or the one in a disk. In the everchosen book if I remember well it says 120 but in the scrollbuilder says 100. Tried google but only shows the one with chaos familiars

>>52698447
While I think the character looks retarded, I can admit the art quality has gone up.
I don't know who did the first 4 books, but that shit looked horrible

Do Kharadons circumcise their dicks?

>>52698239
If they can make stuff like that, how do the races that are literally stuck in the dark ages stand even a hope of a chance?
Like, I love my Ironjaws. But the race that makes the FLYING BATTLESHIP CITY should be able to easily exterminate them all.

>>52699894
>I don't know who did the first 4 books
Lowest bidder.

>>52699914
>how do the races that are literally stuck in the dark ages stand even a hope of a chance?

Magic.

>>52697755
Sorry you live in a country that could literally sink into the ocean tomorrow, and no one would notice for 5 years. Or even give a shit once they notice.

>>52699914
Because the Overlords stay at home in metal-land and filter aethergod from the skies, it'd take an extremely large pile of dirt-gold to convince them otherwise.

>>52699880
If you don't have 2" reach and can't strike through your screen, and he does, yes you are dying without striking.
Why you are not providing yourself room to fit between your screening peasants is another question...
My smallest infantry has 32mm bases, and just by staggering, I get two 'ranks' in... it's not hard.
Or, just keep your Knights 3 inches behind your screen. Problem solved.

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>>52699914
Death comes for all at the end
Even Gods

>>52699999
Quints confirm Nagash is the greatest.

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>>52699891
The one in the everchosen (on disk) is 120 and have very different spell from the one from the DoT book (on foot) which cost 100

>>52699986
> Read All Gates book fluff
> Sigmar 'emptied the treasure vaults' to hire a bunch of naked axe midgets
> could have just bought a midget pirate sky fleet to bombard Chaos out of existence
I hope he can get his money back.

>>52699991
Nonono, if I was running knights without a screen, because fuck dirty peasants. how do I get through the enemy screen on the whatever? This is all looking like ima have to load up on peasants, and this kills my Chivalry boner.

>>52699880
>>52699516
>waah why can't I just charge 2 units with 1 unit, from the front, and just win?
Bret players, ladies and gentlemen. God forbid they might have to utilise some tactics or something.

>>52700023
in the fluff they are OP tho. kinda like how Space Marines sucks ass on tabletop vs videogames and fluff

>>52699999
I could see Nagash being fine.
But Ironjawz/Bonespittlers/ Beastclaw Raiders? Or Khorne barbarian dudes?
Bomb the shit out of them, broadside them, they are all fucked. Literally no contest.

>>52700023
> could have just bought a midget pirate sky fleet to bombard Chaos out of existence

The Sky dudes weren't going to help until Sigmar built cities in the Mortal Realms. That was their condition.

>>52700029
It could be like three units of knights from the front, whatever, it was a quick as fuck example. How do I apply knights to monster/character/wizard without getting jammed out, and counter fucked. I will freely admit I'm a shitter, that's why I'm fucking here T_T

>>52700040
Yeah, they wanna get that trade.

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>>52700013
>Quints confirm Nagash is
a puppet of big bird.

>>52698447
Don't be mean to dorfy Scrooge McDuck.

>>52700026
Pegasus Knights combined with another knight unit?
Pegasus Knights get to pile in and attack twice, so they go first, kill the screen to make an opening.
Monster now has to fight either Pegasus Knights (who get another attack) or untouched knight unit.
I don't know what else to say man... Bret armies always used SOME peasants to clear away the chaff for the Knights Glorious Charge... plus aren't Trebs really good at hitting big units?

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>>52699999
>those quints
Praise Nagash

>>52700039
Both Ironjawz and Bloodblound have shown they can fight in the sky.

>>52700077
Pegasii hey? I'll give it a go. Can';t hurt.
Back in my fucking day we didn't need no shitty peasants, spose I'll have to get used to it. Thanks for the advice, at least it's giving me shit to try, and that's always good.

>>52700023
Ur gold is readily available, they just need EREBOR level quantity.
Aethergold is fucking rare and moving. very hard to get

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>>52700086
Grobi sky pirates

>>52700107
>>52700023

Also aethergold is literally keeping their civilisation afloat whereas Ur-gold literally weight them down.

>>52700099
Out of curiosity I read the Trebs war scroll. Holy shit take two. Take fucking three. It's designed to murder huge blobs. More than 6 models in a unit (cough cough chaff units cough cough)? AUTO HITS. Rend -2. D6 damage. Fires twice.
That's all the peasants you need right there

>>52700039
>Or Khorne barbarian dudes?

Khorne is also a god of warmachines you know.
One of the Bloodbound warbands rides a giant city sized mechanical scorpion.

>>52697393
You want bow dudes for your ungors, and whatever also for the gors. As a rule of thumb, if they have access to 2" weapons, you want to use those in bigger units, because it'll only be worth it if they all get to hit. Smaller units you're better off with handweapons

>>52700014
Thanks lad!

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mfw waiting for some Slaanesh elves

>>52700364
No, you *she's* shutting up about it.

>>52697393
For my two cents, go with shields on the gors. For me so far, they really need that +1 save in combat a lot more than they need to reroll hit rolls of 1.

>>52698706
>Hyper capitalist "democratic" jews who wouldn't lift a finger to help a dying man if there wasn't any profit in it
You don't understand the Jews. They will sacrifice anything to help out other Jews. It's the goys who only get any help for a hefty price.

>>52699494
>Considering it says Chaos (excluding Khorne) players, and Khorne is not on the list, that means Khorne playes are less whiny than other Chaos players.

So who's getting some Kharadrons?

If my backlog wasn't so big already, I'd jump on them. There's so much stuff I want to buy in GW's range.

>>52700521
A big maybe for me, though I'm also playing DG in 40k that release will stretch my funds.

GREAT UNCLEAN ONE WHEN?

>>52700651
Maybe save and repost it, I'll delete the file otherwise I'll get all the replies.

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Soooo, let's try this again. I could clean up his skin, but I'll leave him like that for now. I have 500points of VC done now, about 4k-5k left and I'm pretty happy with 'painting for tabletop quality'.

>>52700733
Solid tabletop, maybe take the eyes up a bit in red intensity (if possible) and
limited blood effect on the raised claw, to add a splash of vibrancy.

>>52700733
>>52700733
Is it based on a coin?

>>52700495
Because they less whiny, I should have put Nurgle/Slaanesh since Tzeentch and Khorne both have their big battletomes

What would the effects of a Khornate daemon incursion be?

>>52700840
https://youtu.be/x3HRaDov0Qg?t=34s

>>52700840
>>52700860

That and some Old Testament God shit. Fire from the skies, rivers boiling and turning to blood, weak-minded people in unsatable rages.

>>52700804
I already thought about this and I'm going to give the eyes some more love. I don't like blood effects at all, since I tend to put on too much.
>>52700805
It kinda looks like a 50cent coin, but it's actually Sarissa Precision mdf.

>>52700840
Lots of headless bodies.

>>52699441
>naval society
>parliament is called Geldraad
>merchants
>have no firm ground to live on

They're very Dutch.

>>52699481
Umm, how exactly are you planning to paint while not sitting on your ass?

>>52701104
>in front of a screen
is his main complaint.

Are any of the legacy factions actually good besides Death and Nurgle. Looking through the books and some of the old stuff like demigryph knights is are just horrible, like they are trying to keep you from buying any.

>>52701573
Horrible rules or horrible look? Because I think they look pretty damn awesome, and when properly buffed they kick ass on the table

any good sites for testing out paint schemes?

>>52701684
For?

Got a question because Google has been failing me.

Can Death wizards summon units?

>>52701710
is there some compilation of them?
i just want a fantasy DoW painter desu

>>52701739
All wizards of a faction can summon units of the same faction, assuming their scroll has a summon spell

>>52701739

Read literally any summonable warscroll.

>>52701747
Oh for fantasy there's fuckall.
Thought I was in the WIP thread.

>>52699865
I painted up my ironjawz in red and silver for Warsong. I know it's not wolves, but still overall good.

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Had a spare Khorne Lord from the starter set kicking around so I've converted him into an Exalted Deathbringer.

>>52701573

Free people's are very competitive and demigryphs are breddy gud on tabletop, or do you mean model wise?

>>52701821
Looking great my dude, i normally don't like the model but your conversion is good, helmet weapon and shield make it much better.

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>>52701821

That's a sick conversion, I love it.

I did the opposite thing and tried to convert a mighty Khorne lord from some other hero.

>>52701821
Beastly

>>52693763
can you do the probability density graphs for the number of incoming damages at, various rend characteristics, to remove the blimp as a casualty?

bonus points for incorporating the baseline wound regeneration of the blimp.

>>52701075
There are 2 things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures; and the Dutch.

What I personally think about those new skellies from shadespire - we'll have a death battletome for sure. Same name. If the Evil Corp. used for them some copyrightable name from WFB, (as for Seraphon) it's really like them to make up a death "Sepulchral" battletome. Will we be seing actual sepulchral stalkers there - that's the question.

>>52702554
I've heard that each shadespire team will be getting warscrolls. Whether it's individual hero warscrolls or unit ones remains to be seen.

>>52702554
I assume they'll just be a new unit, similar to Grave Guard.
If GW were smart the next 3 BTs for Death would be
>VCs + Werewolves
>Liches, Deathknights and Skellies
>Ghosts + Zombies

>>52702597
I think they will be unit warscrolls, but more elite versions of their counterparts. Like the SCE team will be elite liberators. Very similar in stats, but better bravery, better to it, and a few special rules. Limited in their number like named characters and can't get bigger in their unit size

Same for the khorne one being elite bloodreavers, and these skellies will be elite grave guard or something

>>52702597
Thought counting hero with spear as a wight king and scythe-bearing skelly as a kairn wraith. There is no need in new warscrolls as old ones are pretty good.

>>52702615
I think that new death models (when they'll finally come out) will be akin to spear-bearing sepulchral hero. That makes sense because Severin and his Stormcast are JUST liberators and Gotrek and co' are JUST bloodreavers.

Also, if someone is hyped for Shadespire, i have some idea abot this new death team. Have you noiteced, that one model looks like it's in process of resturrecting? Because it is actually rising from the dead! There must be some action cards capable of rising the models. Pretty powerful.

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>Skeletons are noticably smaller than zombies
Fuck

Still mixing them and calling them all zombies

>>52702615
>>VCs + Werewolves

THEY ARE THE FUCKING NEMESIS IN ALL FANTASY AND GW FANTASY INCLUDED FAGGOT.
THEY ARE ANTITHESIS

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>>52702840
>Not going that they're offshoots of the same progenitor
>not even going that Vampires made the Lycanthrope curse for bants

>>52702840
Bit of a strong reaction there anon.

AoS is a new setting. Vampires and wolves can be allies if GW so desires. Personally though, I'd prefer to leave the wolfing to Skinwolves. Or 40k.

>>52702884
In the End Times Ulric (a god of winter and wolves, if you remember) hadn't got eaten or killed by anyone. We can assume Ulric-themed fraction.
Ones the Incarnations become gods in AoS, it's easy to understand, that you just can read End Times to see what got it's way to AoS and what don't.

>>52702840
>>52702840
Warhammer weres are:
A semi-stable variant of chaos spawn foun in norscan bloodlines
A Beastman variant.
A Strigoi family
Completely mad lore of Beast wizards
Actual Lycanthropes

So there a flavour for each season.

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>>52699494
elves when?

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Is there a Blades of Khorne pdf available?

>>52703265
Check the pastebin boyo

>>52703113
hopefully not before 2022 and hopefully very expensive kit basically unusable in tournament

>>52703322
why?

>>52703265
Grab one, fellow general.
https://mega.nz/#!S8J2WSJC!jEW6Nw8NAAHr82Ef0b5zw_mwOIOInWOSoVyQSgOtHAg

>>52703296
>pastebin.com/qCZb0mvh
Thanks babycakes, in the Library right now so can't get a hold of any of the files, gonna be here for the next few hours, can anybody email them to me?