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MOONKLAN edition.

>old thread:
>>52596094

>resources
pastebin.com/qCZb0mvh

>General's Handbook pdf
mega.nz/#!DxRGmTZL!x_L0eobCjr4qrF7enhVlZ2DffTtRa3hdDrc5RctcAbE

>army builder
scrollbuilder.com

>custom warscroll maker
http://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/
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>>52607383
Boy do I sure hate diggers!
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Kindly no End Times or Age of Shitmar. It's not the same universe.
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>>52607454
>it's not the same universe
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SOULBLIGHT WHEN?
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>>52606226
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>>52607383
>dat next generation editing
Did NASA let you borrow their computers for making this picture?
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>>52607574
I don't know what you're taking about mister FBI agent. I merely took a photo of a typical MOONKLAN grot on the prowl.
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what is everyone working on today?
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Did anyone convert the epub of khornites to pdf?
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>>52607666
Hello Satan. Your birds look pretty.
I am working on calculators
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Bow before your masters
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>>52607383
>>52607437
Threadly reminder that skinks and diggers need to hang from trees.
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>>52607755

So my nerd sperg may have cooled enough for me to give AoS a fair chance but that statue will never not be shit.
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>>52607810
I know, it's not even painted.
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>>52607755
I hate this. I'm an AoS player myself, but I don't get why they replaced the marine and the Imperial eagle. I don't even play 40k. But those two were so iconic.
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which realm do the moonclan live in?
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>>52607755
Would totally selfie with and mount on my wall
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>>52607849

Argentina
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>>52607752
These are pretty great.
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>>52607849
Realm of Daeomons.

We ah' usurping this shit'ole, turbo-diggers!
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>>52607849
Alabama
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What's the best monarch to build (personal feelings on character aside)? I'm planning on using the arkhan torso for a conversion I'm doing for my wight king.
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>>52607752
Satan? anyways wanted to tell you those look cool and I'd like to see them when you get more progress!
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>>52608130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9kT37eIkaY
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>>52608129
Nevermind. Looking at what the previous thread's anon did, I think he used manfred's boots and sword hand. Not sure what he used for lower torso and sword arm
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Okay, so let's see what happens with this setup

>>52600124
>Play Bonesplitterz
>bring 3 Kunnin' Rukks
>3x1 savage big boss
>3x10 savage orruk boys
>3x40 savage orruk arrow boys
This should be <= 2000 points

In magical Christmasland, where every arrowboy and arrowboss gets to shoot, let's see what happens
A Big Boss general can use the command ability to give one unit the ability to roll another attack every time their to hit roll is a 6. So you roll to hit for attacks, get a new attack for each 6. I believe the new attacks can also generate new attacks on each 6. (It doesn't say they dont!) So let's assume that is how it works.
Each Kunnin' Rukk, for free, can have its arrowboys fire in the Hero phase. If you keep your Big Bosses within 10" of their arrowboy units, you get to shoot in the Hero phase, as well as in the Shooting phase. Each unit will fire twice.
The Loadsa Arrows ability says arrowboys make 1 extra attack if the unit is large enough. I don't think Arrow Boy Bosses count as Arrow Boys, so I believe they do not benefit from that power. We'll assume they do not get the extra attack. Please correct me if that's not the case.

So, you've got 39 arrowboys and 1 arrowboss in each unit. Each boy fires 3 shots at 5+/4+ to Hit/Wound, each boss fires 2 shots at 4+/4+.
Boys: 3*39=117 boy shots per attack. Since each unit attacks twice, and there are three units, we have 117*2*3=702 boys shots in one turn.
Boss: 2*1=2 boss shots per attack. Again, 2*2*3 = 12 boss shots in one turn.
But wait, there's more!

One of these units will generate additional shots on both attacks! 117+2 = 119 shots from the generating unit per attack, or 238 in total. Doing an expected analysis (the McDonald's of statistical analysis), 238/6 =~ 39.67 new shots. Of those new shots, 39/6 =~ 6.5 new shots. Of those new shots, you may get 1 new shot. So in total we expect about 39+6+1=46 additional shots.
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Of those, there's about a 50/50 chance that the new shots will include a boss shot. (Getting no 6s on 4d6 is about 48.22%, so it's about 51.88% of getting at least one 6 on 4d6.) We'll assume one of them is a boss shot. So of the 46 additional shots, 45 are boys shots and 1 is a boss shot.

702 + 45 = 747 boys shots, 5+/4+
+12 + 1 boss shots, 4+/4+
(Note that 747 = 3*249. That's why I have 249 models doing 3 attacks each; it works out identically, and lets you see the correct per-model damage of the arrow boys.)

747 boys shots at 5+ Hit, 4+ Wound means against the following Unmodified saves, you expect to inflict this number of Unsaved Wounds, which I call Damage:
(7+ is a stand-in for no save)
(save | boys + boss = total)
7+| 124.5 + 3.25 = 127.75
6+| 103.75 + 2.708333 = 106.458333
5+| 83 + 2.1667 = 85.1667
4+| 62.25 + 1.625 = 63.875
3+| 41.5 + 1.08333 = 42.58333
2+| 20.75 + 0.541667 = 21.291667

If they reroll 1s on their saves, instead you have:

7+| 124.5 + 3.25 = 127.75
6+| 100.291667 + 2.6180556 = 102.9097222
5+| 76.08333 + 1.986111 = 78.069444
4+| 51.875 + 1.3541667 = 53.2291667
3+| 27.667 + 0.7222 = 28.3889
2+| 3.458333 + 0.0902778 = 3.5486111

And if they reroll any failures on their saves, instead you have:

7+| 124.5 + 3.25 = 127.75
6+| 86.458333 + 2.2569444 = 88.7152778
5+| 55.333 + 1.444 = 56.778
4+| 31.125 + 0.8125 = 31.9375
3+| 13.8333 + 0.36111 = 14.19444
2+| 3.458333 + 0.0902778 = 3.5486111

For example, if you were fighting a unit of Stormcast Eternal Liberators with Sigmarite Shields (2 wounds each, 4+ saves, reroll 1s), leveraging your full shooty power you'd expect to inflict 52 or 53 wounds, sending 26 or 27 back to Azyr in a most embarrassing fashion. You'll probably also send your opponent back home because it took you half an hour to roll 760d6 and count the successes, winning you the game.
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>>52607755
When did this get put up? I was last there in December I think, maybe November.
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ur chilling at the realmgate and this guy steps out and smacks your Stormcast GF on the ass

what do
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>>52608661
unleash the archerboys
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>>52608643
Like 2 years ago now
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>>52608661
Unleash aetherwing.
Laugh
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>>52607437
I always feel like /tg/ is one of the boards further away from /b/ culture than others, it makes shit like this 100* better when it's once a month rather than every hour. More proof that /tg/ is comfiest board.
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>>52608661
I pick him up, tell him that he ain't no sigmar, and he sure as hell aint no Archaeon, before withering him to dust.

Then, I go home and Bone my gf
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>steam punk dwarves when
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>These sprues
Literally why
I hope all resin models aren't like this.
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>>52608577
>>52608586
Why do people still play bonesplitterz
If your list is hard countered by simple wall units like saurus guard then its a bad list
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What's with the Tonka Truck armor on all the orks and Iron Jawz? What are some better paint schemes for IJ?
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>>52608862
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>>52608913
Thats finecast for you
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>>52608913
I don't see anything wrong.
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HOW DO YOU BEAT AETHERSTRIKE FORCE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>second game of AoS today
>Cannon shot Drycha in the face and killed her turn 1
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>>52609237
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>>52608577

>(it doesn't say they don't!)

It most certainly does
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Picking up Wanderers, am I fucked? Also, Should I go with primary gold with red, or red primary for cloaks and secondary gold? Going for a summer/autumn theme for them, think Blood Elves from WoW almost.
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>>52609455
>think Blood Elves from WoW
You have no idea what youve just done
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>>52609455
>Picking up Wanderers, am I fucked?
Only if you care about winning trophies in tournaments. Otherwise if you like the look of them and how they will play, you should be good. The meta changes all the time and they may get a points reduction or some new stuff in the future.

In the meantime, collect and have fun with it. They ally well with sylvaneth if you want some more punch in your force.
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>>52609455
>Blood Elves
Oh boy oh boy here it goes
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>>52609455

>>52590794
>>52590826
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>>52607454
>>52607486

It really isn't though.
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>>52609455
For blood elves you may want to go with the high elves, which are eldritch council, lion rangers, order draconis, phoenix temple, and swifthawk agents. None of those listed have any real allegience abilities, so you can mix and match some of that. You really want to just look for keyword synergy between the heroes and units.

The wanderers have more of a night elves theme.
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>>52609585
>>52609487
I don't know what I did, I just like red and gold, it's why I play Blood Angels.
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>>52609395
Buried deep away in some other book. Thanks for pointing it out.
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>>52609653
It's not buried away, nor really deep within anything. It's in the general's handbook, which is considered the essential rulebook especially for matched play.

So many morons just take the GHB and skip to the points section without reading the chapter on playing matched. Don't be those people.
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>>52609677
I never would've found it without having it pointed out. Strange that it only applies to matched points games.
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>>52609722
You would have found it if you had just read the chapter on playing matched play, you know, one of the 3 modes of play.
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>>52609722
>b-but it's tooo much reeeeeeading. i don't want to have to reeeeead. Can someone just spoonfeed me?
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What are some good ideas for a spell/s for a Fimir Meargh? They're the only female fimir, lead the clans, are supposed to be really good wizards and can live to be very very old. I've been making custom warscrolls (to go with custom models) that I've been putting together for a fimir army. I have plenty of ideas for abilities, but my brain is just drawing a blank on spells for her right now. Already have a Summon Mist for the Dirach (other spellcasters).
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>>52609800
Ok, other than being wizards in their society, how are they treated? are they revered or locked away to use for breeding? What kind of things do they do as magic users? do they just augur future events, or bless the warriors of their tribes?
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>>52609792
Calm down now boy, missing a rule doesn't mean we hate your game.
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>>52607383
So can someone explain to me what Blood Pact on the Blood Tithe table actually does? It seems poorly explained to me. I played a game today where, after slaying Skarbrand in the previous turn, my opponent spent his 8 points to summon him back in the following turn. Was this legal or not?
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>>52609644
It's no big deal, there's one annoying dwarf player here who chimps out whenever blood elves are mentioned, but it looks like he's not here
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>>52609823
They lead the fimir and they both augur and "bless" their warriors
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>>52609823
They are the rulers of the fimir strongholds, so I would lean towards revered/feared. I know it's mentioned that they can summon daemons and mist.
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>>52608913
it's finecast, we hate finecast for a reason.

It's brittle, covered in flash and sprue bits, has holes in it, and is generally a fucking pain to work with.
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>>52609855
If it was in matched play: It is legal as long as he had the reinforcement points to pay for him again.
If he did not have the points, it is not legal. When a unit is completely destroyed, regular reinforcement rules apply. You only get free models if you only add to an existing unit, and never go above that units starting number.

If it was NOT matched play: Legal no questions asked.
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>>52609855
Did he have the points to summon him?
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>>52609881
Then I would go for a blessing type spell other than a damage or debuffing one. Something that buffs a unit of fimir warriors.
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>>52609855
If you were playing Matched then he was cheating unless he had reinforcement points for it.

If he did or if you weren't playing Matched then it's perfectly fine.
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>>52609855
>Was this legal or not?
Illegal. If you summon something on to the board, you have to have paid the points for it when building your list. Blood Pact is useless.
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>>52609944
It's really not. It's thematic and lets Khorne lists summon without wizards.

And Narrative and Open play makes it completely fine.
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>>52609903
>>52609913
>>52609931
>>52609944
I am assuming he didn't have the points as his side of the field was quite full and he didn't mention anything about summoning points when we were discussing our lists at the start. It's fine anyway as we were both getting to grips with the new rules and it wasn't explicit in the text. That said, maybe it's my own fault for not being more knowledgeable about summoning to begin with.

He only re summoned him at the end and he did nothing. Though I did concede that due to his presence I would have lost (he had a Mighty Lord of Khorne and a Slaughterpriest whilst I had one and a half units of Blood Warriors). If I take Skarbrand out of the equation once again, then I guess it would have been my victory perhaps, if we had the time to finish the game.
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Are the moonclan grots mentioned anywhere or have they appeared at ALL in any art for Age of Sigmar? I feel like they've just disappeared.
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I'm looking to get into the bone zone, but I want my bones to be Tomb King themed. Do GW skeletons only have the Vampire style Gothic bits or do they come with any of the old TK stuff? I'm also considering just getting some empire of dust minis from Mantic and putting them on round bases. I'd like to avoid the OoP price gouging for TK minis on eBay if I can, too, but I have no idea where to get recasts for those so I might just have to suck it up and buy them. How would you guys recommend I go about making some Egyptian-themed deathrattle?
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>>52609967
>It's thematic
I agree.
>lets Khorne lists summon without wizards.
It does, but it's just not a good method to do so. Your tithe points and other spenders are just too valuable to be sitting on them until you have enough for a summon. Waiting until 8 units die is not a good way to summon. At least normal summoning lets you attempt it right of the bat.
>And Narrative and Open play makes it completely fine.
Agreed. I mostly mean from a matched play perspective though.
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>>52609722
makes the maths that much easier >>52607752
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>>52607666
Just finished up this:
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>>52610599
Crop it and turn it the right way up.
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>>52610606
Nah
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>>52610621
If you don't give a shit about properly formatting your pictures, then I don't give a shit about the paintjob. Haven't even cliicked on the image.
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>>52610599
That's awesome. How'd you get it to stick to the wall like that?
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>>52610658
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>>52607383
My first model ever. Bought the starter paint set and just went at it. How'd I do?
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>>52610695

Way better than the subhuman who didn't even rotate his image, that's for sure.
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>>52607383
Working on some Seraphon/Death! First skink and some terrain is done!
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>>52610695
Get some washes, throw some all over that, it'll bring out more details. Otherwise pretty good. Maybe thin your paints a little more, too.
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>>52610684
Sticky Tak
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>>52610695
>>52610742
Seconding this.

You did a good job getting the colors down, adding a simple wash (probably agrax earthshade) will bring out all the details and make it looks x10 better.
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>>52610714
I try

>>52610742
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind about the paint.

>>52610723
I just bought Saurus Knights as my first models! They were pretty cheap at 35, are there any other good ones?
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>>52610773
Different anon but the Start Collecting! kit gives a bunch of nice models at a really good deal. You get more knights, some warriors, and a carnosaur, for essentially the price of the carnosaur.
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>>52610695
For a beginner, very good actually. The finer points of miniature paintning will come with time and practice. Lol my first models looked like giant piles of yellow shit.
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>>52610773
Saurus Knights are pretty neat, and since they run in packs of five in game, that gives you 3 dudes to mess around with/convert.

Skinks are also really good to test paint schemes out on. You get 24 per pack, and its fun to paint the little buggers.
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>>52610695
Really like the others said just thin your paints some more and get a wash paint. There's a lot of Warhammer TV videos on youtube for some really good general tips when painting. Also getting (or making) a wet palette is helpful when thinning paints so there's that. Just enjoy what you do.
t. guy that just started a few weeks ago too and picked Seraphon cause lizards are COOL
Lost 4 games at my "local" GW today though
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Selling the fuck out of my goblins to buy beastclaw
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>>52611068
Why?
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>>52611068
What kind of goblins?
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>wtb from gw store but still pissed off at them
Ugh
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>>52611354
Go ahead and tell the story, anon, it's a slow night.
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>>52611068
why not run both?
goblin screen + beastclaw monsters is the typical competitive destruction netlist
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>>52607513
Soon I hope.
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>>52611354

>>52611529
Seconding this
Tell us the story friendo
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How do I make this list better?

Can Gobbos and Ironjawz work together well in an army?

Allegiance: Destruction

Leaders
Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (520)
Orruk Warchanter (80)
Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)
Orruk Megaboss (140)
Arachnarok Spider With Grot Shaman (280)

Battleline
5 x Orruk Brutes (180)
5 x Orruk Brutes (180)
20 x Moonclan Grots (120)
- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields
20 x Moonclan Grots (120)
- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields

Total: 1740/2000
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Should i run Hexwraiths in groups of 5 or 10?
5 is more flexible but 10 would hit like a dump truck and can clip more units when they fly over them.
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Today's work - FOR THE NINTH AGE!
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>>52611899
wrong thread bud
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>>52611899
Those are pretty well done, anon. Good work on the bases, too.
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>>52611904
Sadly there is no T9A thread. T-T
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>>52611816
Fanatics can't hurt
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I want to compete in some tournaments later this year. Is it worth picking up Sylvaneth at this point or should I move onto another army?
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>>52611899
Those are some nice Seraphon, Anon.
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>>52611899
So why are you posting this here?
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Question for you all. New to AoS, in the sense that since the game came out I've not really had the opportunity to play it much at all. I've followed releases, and lurked the threads some. Took the full plunge and decided to start SCE a while back. Got the starter box, added 5 more Liberators, pulling me right about to that 1k mark. What would be a good next step for building this army up to that 1500/2k tier? So far I've only played 2 games, and both were against Ogors, and I got my shit rocked. Fucking Bulls and Leadbelchers put out stupid amounts of damage.

Also, far as unit formations and min maxing things go, how best to use my units? Do I need to be running more than 5 man Liberator squads? Or do most units function well enough at their standard size?
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>>52612334
There is no standard size. You're running them at the smallest size. Yes, get more in your units.
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>>52611816
You need more battline. Without Ironjaw Alliegence you can't take brutes as battle line, so you need more grots.
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>>52611971

Sure Sylvaneth works out fine no reason to avoid them or anything like that. As with most miniature games play with what you think looks the coolest.

Also, I'm praying to Grungni that the "Start Collecting Kharadron Overlods" box comes with one of the small airships, because fuck they're awesome. Considering starting a Kharadron and Fyreslayer/Sylvaneth army.
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I have a few questions for all the Death players out there who've bought Mantic's skeletons. I've noticed that they seem to have little round inserts that set into the bigger square bases. Do those little round parts happen to match up with the base sizes of AoS's new round bases? And if not, how easy would it be to use a hobby knife to cut off the Mantic base and mount them to a more standard round base without mangling the feet? That leads me to my last question: I was planning to buy some of the Tectonic studios movement trays for round bases for the big skeleton blocks, but I can't seem to find the base sizes for GW skellies. Are they 25mm?
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>>52612380

I meant sort of as they come. Kind of like in 40k the box of 5 terminators you buy is all you mostly need. Good to know then. Besides filling in my ranks, any other units a good "must have" or "just burn your money instead because you'll never want to use these"?
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Somebody redpill me on the aetherstrike force

Why are people talking about it so much
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>>52612464
http://www.tga.community/profile/4594-sagittarii-orientalis/
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LIZARD.


MEN.
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>>52612464
It's basically the Gladius Striks Force of Sigmar
>Free shooting
>Good Defensive buffs
>Can get a OP force at 2k
>Still strong offensively
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>>52611529
I stopped buying from gw directly years ago because of a combination of the fineshit debacle and embargos price hikes.
During the fineshit incident I had to return a some items over half a dozen times and still didn't get a good cast. Then several other miscast plastic and metal led to me being declined a return. I suspected i'd been secretly blacklisted. Even though it was entirely their fault. Combined with the stupid embargo and pricing shit I swore never to buy from them again directly
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>>52607666
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>>52612533
Embargos?
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>>52612562
Looking good, Anon.
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>>52612603
GW created at least a few rules where regions couldn't buy from other regions.
You could get around it if you found a gray market seller but on principal fairly insulting to customers
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>>52612677
Is this an american thing, or something?
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>>52612685
Global
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>>52612533
>I swore never to buy from them again directly
...Then don't? I fail to see the problem. You can get most everything cheaper elsewhere.
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>>52612728
Shut up autist.
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>>52607666
Bad pic I known. Unfinished as well. But it's a start
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>>52612738
K.
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>>52607666
working on a hunter, it is actually taking forever.
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>Still now VC Battletome for
>Not even a sniff of rumour
Sigh

Even if GH2 made Grave Guard Battleline for Soulblight i'd be happier
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>>52612334
For squad sizes, it's really up to you. Min squads let you divide your focus a bit more, while larger squads make good meat walls and are nice targets for buffs.

As for how you should expand, I'd say grab the start collecting box. The Lord-Celestant is fantastic, and you really need those two Retributors to finish your starter squad. After that, you can't go wrong with a Lord-Castellant and a box of Judicators.
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>>52612776

How do you paint your white? I really love the cherry blossom Sylvaneth look and might try to hijack it for my future tree peeps.
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>>52612896
VC was one of the best things about wfb.
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If I want to paint my vampires' skin pale blue, is this going to trigger everyone?
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>>52613079
VCs are easily one of the best versions of Vampires in Western fiction desu
I miss him so much ;_;

>>52613088
It depends on how strong the blue is
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>>52613103
Me too anon, me too.
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>>52612507
This looks really good, I'm thinking of starting AoS with Seraphon. Looks like a blue wash over a lighter blue and white. What paints did you use?
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>Starting a Death army
Why is the aesthetic so comfy?
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>>52613103
>It depends on how strong the blue is

I was thinking a very light blue-grey mix for the actual vampires (space wolf grey + something, similar to pic related) and a slightly darker blue for the Ghoul Kings, like pic related but less grey and more blue
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>>52613417
I'd say maybe go for a watered down blue wash over pale skin for normal vamps, and then stick with the grey/blue combo for ghouls yeah
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>>52610388

You don't have to wait until 8 units die since their are other ways to generate blood tithe points.

If you have two Slaughter Priests with Blood Sacrifice, and your General has Arch-Slaughterer and Blade of Endless Bloodshed you can potentially get to 8 points pretty quickly.

It's obviously still not an ideal way to summon and those points are better spent on other abilities but hey ho.

Realistically they should have just given Slaughter Priests the ability to summon.
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>>52612937
I use a base coat of rakath flesh, agrax wash and then a few thin layers of P3 menoth white highlight with a bit of white mixed in at the end for highlighting the edges
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>>52613453

That's a good idea, thanks anon
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>>52613628
Remember to post here and /WIP/ when done
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Think this is enough for a 400 point summoning pool, or should i get a 2nd Mourngul just incase?
>Unit Pool
20x Grave Guard
20x Zombies
2x Banshees
2x Cairns
2x Harbringers
6x Hosts
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Have Moonclan Grots become a meme lately or am I just missing something?
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>>52613865
>Total Warhammer
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>>52613865
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>>52613876
>>52613933
I just checked their roster.
No colossal squig, really disappointing, my senpaitachi.
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for papa nurgle
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>>52614174
I think you should have gone for a darker green on the skin tone, Anon.

It's all painted well, but the fluorescent green look isn't really very good imo.
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stormcast eternal vs sylvaneth on twitch right now
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>>52607383
Here's a dumb game scenario, how long can your army against an endless gnoblar horde?
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>>52614590
Yup, I hope we will see more games than yesterday. Cool to see destruction Vs destruction & pestilens VS death. Pretty nice games
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PDF blades of khorne anyone?
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>>52614590
>subscriber only chat
Not a fan
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>>52614867
They opened the chat for adepticon stream because they had many viewers. GW is trying to make money with this channel, which is not the best behaviour for a big company like this one
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So I have some unbuilt Phoenix Guard, Ellyrian Reavers, and sisters of Avelorn. Can these be put together for AoS and actually used?
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>>52614896
All the biggest twitch streamers keep the chat and stuff free because it attracts more people, a paywall will keep thier channel small
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>>52614923
Yes, all the rules are on GW website
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>>52614944
yup, GW doens't understand how its working, But I think it was the only way for the marketing team to create this. I've worked for company that wanted to hear about Return on investment more than public image & this is what it looks like
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Are Slaanesh viable in 40K? I want to use them in an army with my Khorne demons I built for AOS.
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>>52607755
I would like it if the proportions were more correct, he looks like a Stormidget
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>>52609455
I concur that Wanderers would look better as Night Elves.
Look on tga.community's Order forum for threads on playing Wanderers somewhat competitive
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>>52614951
Where are the point costs etc?
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>>52615188
Points cost is in a book you buy. Everything else is free.
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>>52615188
The book >>52615312 speaks of is the General's Handbook, just so you know.
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>>52614988
It's pretty good.
Fast, brutal and easy to use.

You can't go wrong with Daemonettes.
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>>52615188
While they're in the General's Handbook, you can simply use http://www.scrollbuilder.com/ to check points that way.
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>>52612776
It will probably be easier if you didn't prime them black, just to paint them white.
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I just ordered the start collecting box for tzeentch daemons, what would be good to buy next?
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>>52614988
>>52615427
Wait, you said 40k.

Slaanesh is still pretty good in 40k (the best after cheesy Tzeentch but if you use missions with killpoints, Slaanesh may be better than Tzeentch), but it's definitely not easy to use, unlike AoS.

But it do a little bit of everything, which is quite nice.
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>Endrinniggers
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>>52615485
Another one.
Two of those SC give you a very solid base for an army.
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>>52607755
They replaced the marine for this monkey? Godamn i dont even like space marines but this is a travesty
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How did I do?
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>>52615669
Pretty good, anon, though the bone could use some shading.
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Is all of AoS as crazy as the wild shit we see in box and book art, or its singer of it range medieval fantasy like old warhammer?
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>>52615695
>Is all of AoS as crazy as the wild shit we see in box and book art

Yes.
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Played a 2k game with my Ironjawz against my friend's stormcast. Highlight of the game was when Groin Kikka on Maw Krusha made it into his backfield. Charged his vexillor and killed him with the impact hits which allowed me another charge, which hit his Lord Relictor, killed him with impact hits and allowed yet another charge, which hit his Lord Celestant and killed him and allowed another charge into a unit of liberators.

It was glorious.
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Fuck, GW actually it's making me think and make strategic choices with list building. Wanderers' noble prince and way strider are stronger and good buff abilities, but the way finder and way watcher give me battleline units of taken as Generals. What the hell
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>>52608971
I wonder how something like this would work out.
savage boss
huskard stonehorn
thundertusk beastriders x2
orruk brutes
ogors x2
savage orruks
savage arrowboyz x3
kunnin rukk
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>>52614174
Brooootheer!
Just finished him yesterday, I posted it in the wip as it still needs some touches and basing.
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>>52615725
Did you win?
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>>52607862
Underrated comment
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>>52615754
I like that purple a lot. It looks sickly and painful without being the usual vomit, mucus and pus.
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>>52615756

Yup, it was Three Places of Power so he no longer had a way to score after that lol
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>>52615695
Some of it is more sedate.
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>>52608586
I feel like hypothetically they'd still get outshot by 190 handgunners with a general.
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>>52615753
If you want to mix BCR and Bonesplitterz, Frostlord on Stonhorn, 2x Huskards on Thundertusk, Savage Big Boss, 3 x 10 Savage Orruks, Kunnin' Rukk and either 40 Savage Arrowboyz or 30 and a Maniak Weirdnob seems to be the best for me. Or maybe 30 Arrowboys, and instead of 3 Savages take just one and two units of Moonclan Grots with one Fanatic in each.
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Any collegiate arcana wizard recommendations?
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Stormcast vs Chaos on Twitch
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>>52613413
well, I dont know a single person who Dislikes the aesthetic of Death. its not over the top its not offensive but isnt boring either
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>>52615834
POST LINK
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>>52615903
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>>52615898
>Implying singular aesthetic for a grand aliance
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>>52614807
Crap version here, will post better one asap.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/9wzg7o
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>>52615989
Fuck you i laughed. Also what's the base model?
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>>52615754
>>52614174
Are we nurgle-posting?

WIP
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>>52615903
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>>52615753
cut the brutes and ogors for more arrowboyz
kunnin rukk with only 30 arrows is pointless
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>>52615989
nice idea

>>52616040
looks like Sigvald to me (but I am not sure)
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>>52615805
General wont be able to use his command ability at all, otherwise the handgunners will lose without inflicting a single kill.

Arrowboys range is 18 inches, and Handgunners range is 16 inches, Generals command ability forces handgunners to stand still (they can't move even if they want to).

This also means the Handgunners lose their own +1 to hit buff from standing still, meaning that they lose +2 to hit and +1 to wound in order to move into range.
A few units of handgunners will almost certainly either be destroyed, or at the very least fall below 20 models when the Orcs shoot them as well.

Also, bear in mind only 90 Handgunners can use the Generals command ability at any one time in matched play (Maximum of 3 units, and each unit can only be 30 men strong).
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>>52616093
180 shots doesn't seem useless, even with their poor rolls it generates 30 or so unsaved wounds per turn. Is there a better way to get shooting into mixed destruction list.
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>>52615903
I wonder if streaming casual games at my flgs has a possible future instead of just doing battle reports on youtube?
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>>52616454
if it was clear audio and good camera angles it be awesome
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So I assume when you combine abilities that give bonus attacks with ones that multiply attacks you double and then add rather than add then double?
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>>52615769
I followed more or less this dudes vid as I liked the look more than the bk vid of duncan and he was really good at showing what to do. The purple necrosis looks really good but I need to do it less pink and more subtle next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_v-A_A6kU
>>52616085
Yeah boi I have them up next too.
I followed the recommendation of some anon some threads ago to make a 1000 pts army with:
x1 Lord of plagues (bought and almost finished)
x2 BK (x1 build and wainting primer)
x1 Chaos knights
But now I feel like I should do more nurgle units of some kind to accompany the lord and bk in the name of our papa
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>>52616518
You can choose the order in which abilities apply. So everybody is going to choose to add and then multiply.
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>>52616530

Bonkers, that in the GHB or and FAQ or something?
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>>52616437
Thundertusk spam. But you can combine both to some extent.
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>>52616437
>>52616572
Or you can get Gitmob Artillery so your opponent won't bawl his eyes out about Beastclaw cheese and you won't have to roll 6 gorillion dice every shooting and hero phase.
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>>52616544
Hints and tips section.
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Does the axe or the sword function better on the Daemon Prince?
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>>52616604

Cheers
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I'm organizing a Path to Glory campaign.

Of course I had to do some custom tables for various players, and it was no problem, but yesterday one asked me a table for the Wood Elves.

I realize I know nothing about them.
Can you help?

1) Do they have different subfactions or castes so I can split up the tables? It would be quite handy.

I see a lot of Glade Something in the compendium, for example. Are they different guys?

2) Should I add the unit from the compendium? These seem to be quite normal units, and the player do have them.
Is there a fluffy reason why stuff like Glade Riders and Wardancers don't exist anymore in AoS?

3) Who are the de-facto leaders? Nomad Princes?
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>Finishing Nurgle Army
>Now decided that i'd rather by Death
No doubt that i'll be wanting another army after i nearly finish Death

1 More PDrone to go and the squad is done. Just the GUO and Grinder to go then
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>>52610599
>heavy leg armor to slow you down
>no heavy chest plate to make the leg armor worth wearing
welp
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>>52617392
It's so he's more likely to get stabbed in the chest and bleed out, that's what Khornites are in to
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>>52617246
Are you me?
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I just realised a Chaos Warshrine is a Khorne Priest and can take a Blood Blessing. This pleases Khorne.
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>>52617610
I hope not, though i see you have patrician taste with moving to Death
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>>52617392

>implying bleeding to death isn't pleasing to Khorne
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Its happening
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/15/a-new-race-descends-on-the-mortal-realms/
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>>52617893
Preorders on the 15th
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>>52617926
Told. One idiot kept insisting it was yesterday
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>>52615485

joining >>52615585
Another one is the way
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>>52617205
Organize according to the current factions, not the compendium. Look at the General's handbool for ideas on who should be leaders and what kind of units they'd get.
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Will we get non SC/Khorne starter sets?
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>>52618173
There was the Elf/Skaven one. A rebox but still a starter set.
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>>52618235
Spire of dawn. It's a pretty damn good deal too

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Age-of-Sigmar-Spire-of-Dawn-ENG

It's temporarily out of stock right now though
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>>52618275
Still available in EU. i'm ordering it this week
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>>52618275
>>52618235
Iron Jaw/Vampire Counts when?
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>use a 4chan tier shitpost on a "normie" AoS board
>people send 500 word replies of rage etc
Forgot how easily triggered people in other communities are jesus christ
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>>52618396
I want a fucking goblin one already
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>Forge World still hasn't made a fucking Chaos Dwarf battletome with new lore and battalions even though it would be nothing but profit for them given that the Chaos Dwarf line is already complete and they don't have to do anything.
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/tg/, I need clarification.

Can I use Khorne-marked Slaves to Darkness stuff and still get the goodies in Blades of Khorne?

Or am I limited only to the stuff in the BoK book?
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>>52618458
Yes you can, it of course just has to be khorne marked.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/08/vortex-and-slaughter-the-beasts-are-back/
so you can use big beasties in your DoT and BoK lists, are they actually worth taking though?
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They are peicemealing the sky dwarf release lol
Only the book, the battleline and ONE of the ships will be availible on the 15th
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>>52609628
End times is the canon ending of warhammer fantasy. Age of sigmar takes place way after that but it's the same universe. It's like the relationship between Horus Hersey and warhammer 40k it's the same universe but so much time has passed that things are totally different. A better comparison would be warhammer fantasy being the Dark age of technology humans and age of sigmar being 40k
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>>52618397
I find just being polite in general is a worthwhile endeavor. But not everywhere is 4chan faggot.

What did you tell em if I might ask?
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>>52618662
About how all the old armies are npc tier in AoS and will be squatted, so collecting them and reccommending them to new players is a fucked up thing to do
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>>52618397
4chan is the only place worth posting
The rest is bearly lurkable
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Would brass skull meteor be worth it if it hit every model in range? I know it sucks hot balls right now.
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>>52618434
>it would be nothing but profit for them
So you don't understand how money works?
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>>52618888
HEHEHEHEHEHHEHE

I'm chuckling like a stupid asshole now.

Is that not the prevalent feeling elsewhere? Seraphon is all I play and I kinda guessed that was the case.


Though I like how it seems like new armies are lower model count and old WFB armies are still 200 model monstrosities if you wanna run like that. Creates a diverse feeling.
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>>52618640
This. In AoS, Warhammer fantasy and end times are all canon. Fantasy fags just be in denial
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>>52618888
You're right, that is a shitpost.
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DOUBLE TURNS
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>>52619301
git gud shitter
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>>52619354

I'll have you know I am good, I've won an AoS tournament. I had to beat a whole 3 people to be crown champion.
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>>52618434
I don't want a battletome for FW's Boring McBland canhead midgets. As of now, even Mantic's shit is closer to Chaos Dwarfs than what FW's putting out.
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>>52618607
Nyowr.
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Javelins or pipes for skinks?
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Okay so I've always been a Slaanesh fag. Mostly daemons. And it seems that for me this game is dead on arrival correct?

Yes I understand some Slaanesh units and the like have Warscrolls, but as a whole I'm not going to see formations (whatever they're called in AoS) or any new releases am I?

I understand that things like Elves and Ogres are in a similar book with no updated released, but they seem to get formations and the promise of a future.

So am I boned basically?
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>>52619089
Kangz are superlow model count if you optimise them properly.
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>>52619380
What army?
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>>52619500

Build a Slaanesh army from all the models you like.

Base them on squares.

Play every fantasy war-game.

My honest advice.
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>>52619488
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>>52619531
Stormcast Eternals.
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>>52619500
the /tg/ meme is yes its dead for Slaanesh. However, we don't know enough yet. They made Tzeentch and Khorne super buffed in both settings. Now we see Deathguard getting buffed, which leads me to think we'll see Nurgle get a helping hand soon. In the Ynnari book for Eldar, there are rumors of a giant snake demon rampaging about, which fits a Slaanesh Daemon, most likely Fulgrim, so we should see Emperor's children get some love. Probably during that time we should see Slaanesh get some love, either in the form of whatever their "not Slaves to Darkness" schtick is, much like Arcanites, Bloodbound, and Plaguekings. Perhaps that might be the Cthulu Elves we've been hearing about. Perhaps old Dark Elves will stay order but the new faction will be so corrupted by Slaanesh that malekith ends up going chaos and his close followers go too. That'd be a fun twist.

Or maybe /tg/ is right, and all slaanesh will ever get is Pleasurebound Warband and Daemon Cohort of Slaanesh.
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>>52618888
Well...
You're not really that wrong
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>>52619500
In the fluff, slaanesh is mentioned several times, but in the context of her being missing and her followers searching desperately. It seems to imply we may find out about her fate when the story gets around to the elves arc. But we don't know for sure.

For now though, if aos is dead in your area, then this is all a moot point. Find out what games they are playing and have fun with it
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>>52619449
FW Chaos Dwarfs are best Chaos Dwarfs you heathen.
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>>52619611
Thats why its a good shitpost
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>>52619695
When I say dead on arrival I mean specifically for me as someone who loves Slaanesh and the models, and has little interest in the other AoS armies.

The community here is giving it a go and playing some warband like game (where I don't have rules I was told) and the more I see coming out for other armies the more I feel investing anything at all as a Slaanesh player is a bad idea.

Just looking for the view from those in the know so to speak.
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>>52619611
No, /tg/ just has a really backwards take on the subject and it's much different pretty much anywhere else I've been. /tg/ seems to be in the minority on it. So I don't get nearly as triggered as some do when I hear that mentioned, even though I disagree with it.
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>>52619500
But anon.

The latest Khorne battletome has him bitching about Slaanesh in every fucking page.
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>>52619765
Sorry I haven't read anything much about the game. What does that mean for the army? If anything
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>>52619743
Nobody is in the know on slaanesh's future. The only ones that do are deep in gw hq. Anyone who tells you otherwise it's lying. They can only make guesses.
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>>52619781
It means, despite what some idiots are saying, slaanesh is not squatted. Her story just hasn't been finished yet. GW keeps hinting at her to remind everyone that she existed and they still have to tell her story.

If she was squatted, she would be confirmed dead, and/or treated as though she was never really a thing. That's not what had happened. Last we know of her is that she was captured, and her followers haven't given up on her and some claim they still sense her.
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>>52619841

What like GW confirmed

Squats were dead
Tomb Kings were dead
Bretonnia were dead
Sisters were dead

They're dead, they keep them on because like Sisters they may decide to bring them back. If you start them though you're letting yourself in for two decades of shit rules and no updates with the possibility that one day they may throw you a bone.
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>>52619765

Khorne is totes tsundere for Slaanesh.

Khorne, or his followers, will be the ones to find and release Slaanesh mark my words.
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>>52619872
Tomb kings and brets however dont have much if any mention in the Age of Sigmar books
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>>52619872
>Squats were dead
Yes. This was confirmed
>Tomb Kings were dead
Yes. This was confirmed
>Bretonnia were dead
Yes. This was confirmed
>Sisters were dead
No. This was never mentioned anywhere. Sisters remained to be a thing even through the gathering storm campaign.

Slaanesh is not confirmed dead. Only confirmed missing and her followers still searching for her. This implies more is to be told. I'm not saying that they won't write her death, I'm just saying they have not yet.

I'm not going to continue this conversation though because I know where it's going and this thread will not benefit from it. I've just said what I know, and I'll leave it at that
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>>52619927

Yup. Khorne or his followers will find Slaanesh and, instead of killing her, will free her to let her take her position in the pantheon back from the Horned Rat.
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>>52619841
>she
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If it doesnt have a battletome its squatted until proven otherwise
but keep holding onto your dreams lol
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>>52619942
Oh yes they do, TK at least.
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>>52607437
it's neat to see my art making the rounds
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>>52619704
Oh wow, an entire character who has some resemblance to the proper Chaos Dwarfs.
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>>52619980
Eh I know her gender is ambiguous, I just used she because it was easier than writing she/he or zhe or whatever sjw bullshit pronoun we are supposed to use now
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>>52619975
Slaaneesh is a HE.
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>>52620000
stil mostly shunning the new lorebooks, any reccomendations

>>52620026
She isnt wrong in context of SheWhoThirsts. could also use "Them"
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>>52619998
You don't know what squatted means then.

All of them, barring tk and brets, we're given mention in the grand alliance battletomes. For all intents and purposes they were given a place, no matter how minor, in the mortal realms. Read the grand alliance books.
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Ran this 2k list last night. What do you think?

2k Ironjawz

Megaboss on Maw Krusha
(General, Might is Right, ToP)

Megaboss
(Battlebrew)

Warchanter

Wierdnob Shaman

15x Brutes w/ Gorehackas

10x Ard Boyz

10x Ard Boyz

3x Gore Gruntas

Ironfist

2000/2000
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>>52620071
run the brutes in MSU theyre just better when you get 2 extra boss claws and Big Bladethingers.

Otherwise 10/10 wouldnt want to play against
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>>52620099
This. Some units are best in multiple minimum squads, and others in big blobs
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>>52620037

She Who Thirsts, senpai.
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>>52620135
>>52620056

Pretty sure hes a faggot, so for him slaanesh is a girl.
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So I had an empire army for WFB, wanted to try AoS with it. Had little to no success with it. But I do still think that I want to play AoS. Now I do know I do not want to play sigmarites or chaos of any form.

I was thinking about maybe some sort of dwarfs. The new slayers look too gay for me, although I do like some of the character runesmiths.

the sky pirate dwarfs seem mighty fine, I love all their models, or at least I have not found a single model for them I may dislike. But I worry that the ships are going to be obligatory, and those huge models tend to cost a lot. Would runing an army based around some core warriors, with characters support and some of the baloon jumpers as support be enough? Or are the sky pirates just like chaos that have to run two bloodthirsters in every lists.
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>>52620167
>Guy
the fuck leaving it there.
Even autocorrect cant decide.
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How's this for Baby's First Khorne List?

Allegiance: Khorne

Leaders

Bloodsecrator (120)
- Banner of Khorne: Banner of Rage

Exalted Deathbringer (80)
- Ruinous Axe & Skullgouger

Slaughterpriest (100)
- Bloodbathed Axe
- Blood Blessing: Killing Frenzy

Daemon Prince (160)
- General
- Mount: Flying
- Axe

Battleline
10 x Chaos Warriors (180)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
10 x Bloodletters (100)


Units
1 x Chaos Chariots (80)
- Greatblades
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne

3 x Bloodcrushers (160)

Total: 980/1000
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>>52620099
The brutes as a 15 man squad are brutal. Most will get in to swing due to 2" range. They will get most things into combat , and they will decimate anything they touch. For two of my games yesterday, I ran 2 5mans and a 10 man brute squad. The ten man squad was to hunt anything that needed a propa smashin. The 5 man were swiss army knives. Objectives and my Goregruntas weren't near? Put a 5 man brute on it. Goregruntas getting charged? 5man comes and help. Their doomstack coming? Put some 5 man brutes to soak up the hits and let the 10 man squad show them how to fight.

Granted though my two games yesterday was 1k vs dispossed and a 1.5k vs beastmen. While I hate the command ability for not always going off, I do realize in the grand scheme of melee only armies, Ironjawz are up there as maybe the best. Though maybe new khorne has a run for my money.
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>>52620071
>15x Brutes w/ Gorehackas
How did the Battleshock phase go?
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>>52620177
Empire, now freeguild, is actually pretty good, but a little harder to play. If you don't optimize them for buffing. Reece of Frontline gaming took one to adepticon and only lost two of his games. He's takes a lot about the army on his podcast and they're all about synergy. Each unit individually really kinda sucks, but it's when things work together that they become really badass.

We don't know enough yet about the kharadron overlords whether they can be effectively used without the ships. We just know the ships are transports and there are risks for using them as such.
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>>52620071
If you are running 10-15 man units of Brutes, making their boss your general is quite good. Inspiring presence on them is invaluable.
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>>52620177
I doubt that airships the faction will be competitive with just their likely high cost low efficiency infantry anon. Ironjawz could get away with that.
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>>52620273
My were totaly not optimised. my "empire" army was a city of the wolf one. Ton of knights with hammers mounted and not, supported by a few priests and mages. From what I have seen being used in my city, free guild armies were made out of 60-80 shoting dudes with as many artilery cramped in to the list as possible.

Jesus, Kahardrons, does GW wants people to bite their own tongue everytime they say their army name, why can't they call them sky pirates? I didn't knew those ships are planed to be used as transports. I guess without them the army is going to be too slow. Wish I had more money
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>>52620420
Again we don't know all the details about them. People haven't been able to analyze or practice with them yet.
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>>52620420
>Jesus, Kahardrons, does GW wants people to bite their own tongue everytime they say their army name, why can't they call them sky pirates? I didn't knew those ships are planed to be used as transports. I guess without them the army is going to be too slow. Wish I had more money

The impression I got is that they're kind of okay with being slow (if you're even starting anyone on the table) since they're just shooty mcshooterston the shooting army of shooting. They'll mostly be using their speed to kite I imagine, but it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Their melee people (balloon dudes) are flying infantry and probably quick, their gunline dudes just want to shoot, so it's only the battleline deckhands for whom speed is an issue.
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>>52620471
I could have sworn the balloon infantry had at least a 12" move, and their named character was pretty badass from his warscroll leak
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>>52619927
>>52619975
Khorne had a hand in the disappearance of Slaanesh.
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>>52620500
I imagine a decent list could center around bringing the gunhaulers and balloon guys with that named character. So you don't need the ironclad or frigate and the company or Thunderers

We'll have to see their battleline options though
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>>52620500

That's what I'd expect them to move, named balloon rich guy has a 12" flying move so I expect the normal balloon boyz to be similar.
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>>52612896
>he's complaining about being able to take the best shock cavalry in the game as battleline
>wanting to take fleshless mindless shamblers as battleline when he could be riding forth with his brother knights on a bloodhunt
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>>52620514

He's a god of chaos so that literally means nothing.

Khorne was glad when the Stormcasts turned up because it had been too long since his champions had worthy foes to fight.

By the same token I bet he misses smashing slaaneshi shit to pieces and killing his champions.

Also I'm not saying it'll be wholly intentional. The Khornate armies will march on wherever Slaanesh is being kept and accidentally release it while trying to kill it.

It basically writes itself.
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>>52620195
why a daemon prince though ?
you could add for 180pts wrathmongers to bolster further your line
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so what are some good Start Collecting boxes to get for me and a friend to play against each other?

I know the boxes aren't balanced against each other power-wise, but what two, if any, are close enough in power to go against one another without one getting BTFO by the other?
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>>52620565
>overpriced sculpts
>far too elite to be truly viable @ 2k
Give my Grave Guard as VC battleline and some new Vampire+BK kits and i'll preorder 2k's worth of stuff day 1
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>>52620662
Bloodbound v Bloodbound.
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Another layer on the skin, getting nice and pale now

Need to highlight with pallid wych flesh
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>>52620662
Bloodbound and Stormcast.
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Is 150-200$ enough to build a 2k pts army for a non swarm army? And if not, then how much do AoS armies cost in general.
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>>52620730

Fuck no. I'm still sitting on my starter set because I hate stormcast and have zero desire to paint them
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>>52620662
>I know the boxes aren't balanced against each other power-wise, but what two, if any, are close enough in power to go against one another without one getting BTFO by the other?

They're all pretty close in power.

I recommend playing objective battles instead of just trying to kill each other
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>>52620746
With a 25% of FLGS my Death army is planned to be around £130 for 1500 points
I'm getting 1200-1600 points of extra stuff slowly you just gotta be smart with money anon
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>>52620779
are new armies cheaper then old ones, or are older armie cheaper. £ are how much worth then $ ? 2:1, sorry english is not a language am fluent in.
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>>52620662
You can for sure pick a nurgle SC and maybe a FEC one
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>>52620830
>are new armies cheaper then old ones
no idea, depends on the army

$200 is about £160 so from my local game store, and their discount...
So You'd be able to make a 1k list such as this

>Allegiance: Khorne
>Leaders
Daemon Prince Of Khorne (160)
- General
Bloodmaster, Herald of Khorne (80)

>Battleline
20 x Bloodletters (200)
10 x Bloodletters (100)
10 x Bloodletters (100)

>Units
2 x Skull Cannons (360)
Total: 1000/1000

But obviously each army is different
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>>52620989
ok, I though there was something like that. But is there faction could make a 2k list with ~150-170$, that is good. I understand one could probably build starter sets, but I have been told to avoid those as they offten have trap or bad units.
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>>52621052
no bad unit in all demons Starter sets. Sylvaneth is good value too
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>>52621052
No idea
Best bet is too:
>pick faction
>make 2k list
>cost it up
Or just stretch out your time limit so you have more dosh, and models, but it'll take longer
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>>52621052
flesh eater court is a good one
with two box you already have a solid base to go wherever you want
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>>52621149
yeah, but two boxs cost 280$ I have around 170$. I understand that with limitless money you can buy anything you want and best armies. I was asking if it is possible to build a normal army for less then 200$.I will be ok if the anwser is not.
>>52621129
I do not know which faction is good, and I do not know which faction can make a list with the money I can have.
What is a dosh time limit?
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>>52621245
Basically is sounds like you only want to spend a certain amount of money.
I'm saying is that if you want a proper 2k list, it'll probably cost more than $200 - so you'll probably have to spread the army across more months
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>>52621269
Ok, I think I'll try a different game then. people here play only 2k pts games, and there is no way am going to wait 6 months to get my first game. thank you for the clear anwser
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>>52621338
You could try ebay
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>>52621338

If you split a starter with someone, buy a start collecting and pick up Gorechosen that should give you about 2000pts (it might be closer to 1500, not checked desu) for $160 assuming you buy from cheaper internet retailers and not direct from GW.

Just play a lower points level and build up, it's not like people are going to refuse to play you if you explain you've only got 1000pts or so.

I'm playing a 750pt game tomorrow because I won't be getting the rest of my stuff until Friday.
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>>52621488
People here play only 2k pts, so a 1500pts army gives me nothing.I mean I could play 1500pts vs 2k pts, but it would be kind of a stupid. Plus I do not want to play chaos, I dislike how the models look like, and I don't have the money to buy 2 bloodthirsters. Maybe I shouldn't have sold my empire, probably me being stupid and thinking AoS will somehow have cheaper armies then WFB.

>>52621437
If I could I would. The problem we have here right now, is that all the WFB players sold their armies, and there are only new people playing AoS, a secondary market doesn't exist and stores were forced a long time ago to sell everything at the same price as GW sells them. So it is full price for me or no army.
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>>52621245
Just buy Storm of Sigmar or that other AOS starter box and huddle down with your mates. Should be a laugh.
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>>52621606
Are you implying that ebay isnt international my dude
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>>52621607
I don't have any mates. Am new in the city, I was thinking about trying to play some table tops to get a life outside of work, but people tend to be very strickt about rules and all in a tournament mind set. So no proxy, full WYSIWYG, no non GW models, bases can't be square etc. Am ok with such stuff, because my old community was the same, it just makes it hard to start playing. Plus there is also the thing of 150$ being the equivalent of 75L of vodka. And that is more then 9 months of fun, without going out.
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>>52621688
No, I just don't have a viable way to pay for stuff on it.
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New thread where
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>>52621704

Do you not have a debit card?
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>>52621692
Well first of all, tell them to fuck off with no square bases. It ain't in the rules yet they all have to be round. And so do these people never try out new armies or a new unit? I'd proxy anything first to see if i like it for a little while. If I like it, I'd buy it, if not, oh well.

and no non-gw models? Jeeze. Like I buy GW plastics but I'd hate if I couldn't even buy third party minatures for anything. I even got a GW rep to tell me that I could even use 3rd party daemonettes as long as they were spread about in my normal daemonette squads.
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Highlights are done. Does it make a noticeable difference?
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>>52621969
From that distance yes, but beyond about a foot you'll not be able to tell
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>>52613364
Thanks Anon. So for both the scales and fleshy underbits I used Vallejo imperial blue. I prime white and made my own wash out of the imperial blue. I wash the underbelly and touch up the raised areas in white. The back scales I simply paint with the imperial blue then give it a good wash using GWs blue shade.
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>>52620071
> Maw Crusha as General
Don't do it man. You want to throw him forward and kill shit, or distract half the enemy army while OTHER stuff kills shit.
You NEED that inspiring presence all game on brutes. Just make the Megaboss on foot the general
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So, Fyreslayers are the sons of Grimnir and Kharadron are the sons of Grungni. That means there's one original ancestor god left, Valaya, remaining, right? One more Duardin faction coming then?
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>>52622234
>Kharadron are the sons of Grungni
No stupid anon, all duardin are the sons of Grungni. Valaya just doesn't exist in AoS.
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>>52622310
Forgive my ignorance, haven't really read up on AoS lore. So Valaya's not even mentioned?

Don't think she was huge part of Dwarf lore before, but still, a pity imo.
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>>52615999
Death is literally a single WHFB army + Nagash
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>>52621606
If the fags at your lgs won't play you because you with less than 2k don't buy anything there. Don't talk to them. Just call them fags and find a new lgs.
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>>52622059
Or the Bruteboss so he won't lose his General turn 1 to sniping.
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>>52622234
Kharadron aren't the guys Grungni went to find, though.
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>>52621606
>hey guys I'm just starting can we do a 500-1000-1500 pts so I can see IF I EVEN LIKE THE GAME?

That's what a normal person would ask them and how he/she would tackle the situation.
If they can even take some fucking units off to play a game what's even the point of these people playing if they don't do it for fun or can socialize at a functional level?
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>>52622403
Or that. Whichever.
Which not the Maw Crusha.
However I will say the ability to throw a WAAGH when you absolutely MUST kill two units at once is not to be thrown away lightly
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>>52621969
If you are following >>52616521 vid the key is being subtle about the highlights. I say yours look pretty fine
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>>52622497
This
1000pts is best points anyway
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>>52621767
>>52622415
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>>52622819
>>52622497

1000 is good
1200 is unplayable
1500-2000 is best

but I ALWAYS accept to play with ppl who literally just bought and assembled their StartCollecting Box to give them a basic overview of how the game plays. but there really isnt much more strategic depth other than mosh'n'da'middle'ya'gitz on anything below 1000
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>>52620263
Great, as they spent the whole game inspiring presenced, mystic shielded and war chanted. These guys were monsters.
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>>52622349
In End Times it was implied that she was killed by Nagash

The Fyreslayers worship Grimnir, and the Dispossessed worship Grungni. The Kharadron Overlords have given up worshipping any ancestors or gods, and instead worship a Code and profit. They merely honor some ancestors, but it doesn't go beyond honoring.
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